Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[lizann]

Who do you think will ultimately save Belle and have her escape? (if what I'm assuming is going to happen).

I'd love it to be Jimmy, taking responsibility for Tom.

but I usually think of a woman helping to sneak a battered wife away.

Kim's had some great talks with some of the women in bad situations recently. Lydia, Mary. However, I don't see her in the same circles as Belle. It will be interesting to see who is the one to help her.

probably a returning tougher angelica or suzy

[Perdita]

Personally I do not think it will be any of the above. I think it will end with Tom attacking Belle and some how ending up dead. Either by falling off a cliff, electrocution, drowning in a raging torrent, some sort of car accident, or being impaled on a spike, possibilities are endless. But I do think he will end up dead.

Been confirmed by the producer that the Tom and Belle storyline will continue for the rest of this year, he will not die any time soon

[Son of Cain]

Been confirmed by the producer that the Tom and Belle storyline will continue for the rest of this year, he will not die any time soon

Maybe not any time soon. But die he must, if only to keep the body count in Emmerdale up.

Not sure if I want to watch a year of Tom abusing Belle. Would rather watch Ruby and Caleb, much more dynamic.

[johntrevor]

Personally I do not think it will be any of the above. I think it will end with Tom attacking Belle and some how ending up dead. Either by falling off a cliff, electrocution, drowning in a raging torrent, some sort of car accident, or being impaled on a spike, possibilities are endless. But I do think he will end up dead.

Fingers crossed

[Dennis tanner]

Been confirmed by the producer that the Tom and Belle storyline will continue for the rest of this year, he will not die any time soon

Thanks producer for making us happy.

[ccahill2]

Wow that's a long time for a doom and gloom story. The poster above might be on to something and the show might be waiting for the more street smart Angelica to be released and to be the one who sees something and talks to Belle. She'll be back in eight months, so the timing sounds about right.

[lizann]

if aaron has the gene, the faulty gene then also eve?

[Dennis tanner]

if aaron has the gene, the faulty gene then also eve?

Possibly but she cannot be tested yet

[Snagglepus]

What's all this fuss over a kiss. I kiss my nan, it doesn't mean I want to take her to bed.

[lizann]

lisa ashes outside in a pig vase and tom knocks with belle taking responsibility

that was a great quiz, 2 or 3 team entries run by kerry

[Son of Cain]

What's all this fuss over a kiss. I kiss my nan, it doesn't mean I want to take her to bed.

You were not ever married to your nan, were you? Personally I think Paddy has had a lucky escape.

[ccahill2]

That scene with the ashes was so disturbing, and the way that Tom taunted Belle for caring was horrible. I'm not going to enjoy this story and cannot wait for Tom to be taken down. He is a monster.

I could understand Mandy being hurt by the kiss, but to go public about it and ruin Marlon's party was pretty out of line.

[ccahill2]

Personally I think Paddy has had a lucky escape.

Ha! About the lucky escape. I think you may be right.

[Dennis tanner]

lisa ashes outside in a pig vase and tom knocks with belle taking responsibility

that was a great quiz, 2 or 3 team entries run by kerry

Sam ( Brain of the Dale ) and Lydia were not available

[Dennis tanner]

That scene with the ashes was so disturbing, and the way that Tom taunted Belle for caring was horrible. I'm not going to enjoy this story and cannot wait for Tom to be taken down. He is a monster. Surely this can't go on all year !!!!


I could understand Mandy being hurt by the kiss, but to go public about it and ruin Marlon's party was pretty out of line. A big gob in a big ead.

[ccahill2]

Is it wrong for me to wonder who puts their dead mom into a pig? A cute cat maybe, a gorgeous slinky horse. But a pig?

I know the scene was horrific, but it was kind of comical to me at the same time, and I know that the show wasn't going for that.

Poor Belle. I hope someone takes out Tom sooner than later.

[Son of Cain]

Is it wrong for me to wonder who puts their dead mom into a pig? A cute cat maybe, a gorgeous slinky horse. But a pig?

I know the scene was horrific, but it was kind of comical to me at the same time, and I know that the show wasn't going for that.

Poor Belle. I hope someone takes out Tom sooner than later.

The Dingles have always had an affinity with pigs. If I remember correct Lisa was particularly fond of them. So the pig pot was not as strange as you might think.

If it has been revealed that this abuse story will last for a year, I find it difficult to believe that Belle would put up with it so long. The fact that she has already spoken about it means she is not keeping it a secret. Assuming abuse normally escalates, apart from not wishing to admit she made a mistake marrying Tom, I cannot believe she would stay with him.

[Perdita]

The Dingles have always had an affinity with pigs. If I remember correct Lisa was particularly fond of them. So the pig pot was not as strange as you might think.

If it has been revealed that this abuse story will last for a year, I find it difficult to believe that Belle would put up with it so long. The fact that she has already spoken about it means she is not keeping it a secret. Assuming abuse normally escalates, apart from not wishing to admit she made a mistake marrying Tom, I cannot believe she would stay with him.

The abuse from Tom is all a bit too sudden and head-on. Usually it all starts very slowly and subtly before it escalates. Hopefully it will come to a conclusion in the autumn rather than winter, soapland likes to speed things up compared to real life. One thing about the Dingles.... you attack one, you attack all of them so Tom will face some punishment from them when the truth is out.

[Son of Cain]

The abuse from Tom is all a bit too sudden and head-on. Usually it all starts very slowly and subtly before it escalates. Hopefully it will come to a conclusion in the autumn rather than winter, soapland likes to speed things up compared to real life. One thing about the Dingles.... you attack one, you attack all of them so Tom will face some punishment from them when the truth is out.

Hopefully ending up with his ashes stored in one of those big rubber gloves vets use for putting their hands up a cow's bum.

[johntrevor]

Hopefully ending up with his ashes store in one of those big rubber gloves vets use for putting their hands up a cow's bum.

Get out now Belle while you still can. These things never get better over time only a lot worse. The biggest problem is Tom actually truly believes its Belle's fault and not his. As the saying goes, "There are none so blind as they who cannot see."

[Dennis tanner]

Get out now Belle while you still can. These things never get better over time only a lot worse. The biggest problem is Tom actually truly believes its Belle's fault and not his. As the saying goes, "There are none so blind as they who cannot see."

I thought that the phrase was...
"There are none so blind as they who will not see".

[lizann]

The abuse from Tom is all a bit too sudden and head-on. Usually it all starts very slowly and subtly before it escalates. Hopefully it will come to a conclusion in the autumn rather than winter, soapland likes to speed things up compared to real life. One thing about the Dingles.... you attack one, you attack all of them so Tom will face some punishment from them when the truth is out.

probably a cain kidnapping

[ccahill2]

Thanks for that bit of history. I've only watched since Novemberish, so appreciate your putting this into perspective.

[Perdita]

I thought that the phrase was...
"There are none so blind as they who will not see".

Nearly...there are none so blind as those who will not see

[johntrevor]

I thought that the phrase was...
"There are none so blind as they who will not see".

There are many different variations of this saying, all meaning virtually the same thing.

[Dennis tanner]

Nearly...there are none so blind as those who will not see

I concede.
Will not and can not are not the same.

[ccahill2]

I am hoping that Tom's ending is getting gored by a wild bore and his ashes are spread in a stye. I want to jump into the show to beat him up on behalf of Belle. The character really riles me up.

[lizann]

im surprised it too this long for tom to put a tracker on belles phone

[Dennis tanner]

Kirk goes in for a hug with Mandy and nearly does his back in

[ccahill2]

I feel like Cain's traumatic brain injury was dropped, after Aaron clocked him over the head with a tire iron or whatever it was, during the squabble in the shop. I still expect to see him collapse again, or other changes in character.

[lizann]

charles and others will think belle the abuser controller

[Son of Cain]

I feel like Cain's traumatic brain injury was dropped, after Aaron clocked him over the head with a tire iron or whatever it was, during the squabble in the shop. I still expect to see him collapse again, or other changes in character.

As a newish viewer you probably do not realized yet, the super healing powers of Hotten Hospital. Many medical miracles the been performed there.

[Dennis tanner]

As a newish viewer you probably do not realized yet, the super healing powers of Hotten Hospital. Many medical miracles the been performed there.

Mainly due to the fact that the studio have only paid for one bed and it's very expensive

[ccahill2]

Ha! I think I have a lot to learn. Love the comment about only one bed and that miracles occur.

It's just a shame. We know that Cain can go all Dingle, as Lydia would say, but now he's got a TBI and takes going Dingle to a whole new level. I think that it would be fun for him to play that part.

[Son of Cain]

I think this Mandy and Paddy story is rubbish, a far better story could have been about consent. With Liam asking the police to charge Mandy with assault when she grabbed him and kissed him in The Woolpack.

Likewise the Eric and Amit story.

In fact I don't think any of the current stories are much cop.

[ccahill2]

With Liam asking the police to charge Mandy with assault when she grabbed him and kissed him in The Woolpack.



This would have been a fantastic and socially relevant story.

And as for Tom and Belle, #FREEBELLE!

[johntrevor]

As a newish viewer you probably do not realized yet, the super healing powers of Hotten Hospital. Many medical miracles the been performed there.

Very true...some might say unbelievable.

[johntrevor]

I think this Mandy and Paddy story is rubbish, a far better story could have been about consent. With Liam asking the police to charge Mandy with assault when she grabbed him and kissed him in The Woolpack.

Likewise the Eric and Amit story.

In fact I don't think any of the current stories are much cop.

I totally agree with all of that

[lizann]

jai and eric teaming up to get amit, go team jaieric

[lizann]

so amit did kill rishi by pushing him down the stairs for his inheritance share and now what has jai to amit as i doubt murder

claudette speaking for the village hall now, charles is probably more open minded

[Perdita]

so amit did kill rishi by pushing him down the stairs for his inheritance share and now what has jai to amit as i doubt murder

claudette speaking for the village hall now, charles is probably more open minded

What is her problem? The fact that Mattie is transgender??

[johntrevor]

so amit did kill rishi by pushing him down the stairs for his inheritance share and now what has jai to amit as i doubt murder

claudette speaking for the village hall now, charles is probably more open minded

Way to go Jai. Well done for recording his confession, now what have you done with him, dont be stupid and kill him.

Suzy said it was about God, that they couldn't have the ceremony.

[lizann]

What is her problem? The fact that Mattie is transgender??

yes

[ccahill2]

I always liked Amit. I find him a lot like a college professor. He looks distinguished. Yet after learning that he did kill his brother, I began to see him as sleazy and not liking him. However, yesterday's scenes by the staircase were very disturbing.

They were presented a lot like like the scenes on The Clinic where Dan Woodhouse went to confront the man who hit Kathy with his car and the man accidently fell down the stairs. Dan stomped on his broken leg and left him alone to die. I'd been learning to like Dan at that point, rat that he was, and found those scenes very disturbing.

So for the sheer brutality and coldness of it, the scenes by the staircase were doubly disturbing to me, first for what they were presenting, and then compounded by the flashback of the similar scene.

I'm not convinced that Amit is dead, although his body disappeared. My guess is that he is tied up somewhere and hidden. I guess we'll see more.

Way decimate a family, Emmerdale! I'd enjoyed them during the few months that I'd been watching.

[ccahill2]

What is her problem? The fact that Mattie is transgender??

Yup. She made the comment about 'two women' marrying. I was so disgusted with her.

[Dennis tanner]

What is her problem? The fact that Mattie is transgender??

They forgot to ask her why her son the vicar was living over the brush.

[lizann]

Yup. She made the comment about 'two women' marrying. I was so disgusted with her.

she accepts gay grand son ethan

[Perdita]

she accepts gay grand son ethan

Maybe she does not really but puts on a friend as he is her son's son... might not approve really though

[lizann]

jai screws suni over to get all the shares from amit

[Son of Cain]

Maybe she does not really but puts on a friend as he is her son's son... might not approve really though

I do not think she would really approve. Or perhaps the writers forgot about Ethan, as none of the other characters mentioned him.

[katie hunter]

I expected Amit to turn up at The Hide while Jai was telling Suni that he had left. I doubt he has actually gone and what about the loan sharks? 🤔

[Dennis tanner]

I expected Amit to turn up at The Hide while Jai was telling Suni that he had left. I doubt he has actually gone and what about the loan sharks? 🤔

There is a chance of Amit returning or some sort of revenge plot

[Son of Cain]

I have lost all understanding of the relationship between Ruby and Caleb, is she still trying to take all his money from him?

[Perdita]

I have lost all understanding of the relationship between Ruby and Caleb, is she still trying to take all his money from him?

I have no idea what is going on, is Caleb still after Home Farm??? Is Ruby still after his money?? Are they still getting divorced??? Do I care? :nono:

[ccahill2]

Do I care? :nono:

This is how I feel too. I don't care about the scheming and don't even fully understand it. I just enjoy Ruby for her comedic scenes.

[lizann]

the writers do not know what they are doing with ruby as she hinted she gave up her family for caleb but they hinted they meet in care, is she bipolar? she does love caleb if obsessively

[ccahill2]

Bipolar is a good suggestion. It could be.

[Dennis tanner]

I have no idea what is going on, is Caleb still after Home Farm??? Is Ruby still after his money?? Are they still getting divorced??? Do I care? :nono:

I don't know but I do.

[ccahill2]

I enjoy the scenes with Chas and Aaron, after she learned of his test and his socking Liam. Aaron has been such an angry character since I started watching (hitting Cain over the head with a wrench???), that I didn't see any positive side to him, and yesterday, he looked like a scared little boy.

I like that the show is discussing male breast cancer. Male diseases like breast and genital cancers aren't much spoken about in society and this is an important public message, at least to me.

Another surprise for this newer viewer is Eric knowing about Jai and Amit and his seeing Amit hurt on the bottom of the stairs and not doing anything. When I first began watching, he first learned that he had Parkinson's. I thought of him a sick older man, and yet he seemed so casual going in and out and not informing the paramedics. I guess I have a lot to learn about this show.

[johntrevor]

I enjoy the scenes with Chas and Aaron, after she learned of his test and his socking Liam. Aaron has been such an angry character since I started watching (hitting Cain over the head with a wrench???), that I didn't see any positive side to him, and yesterday, he looked like a scared little boy.

I like that the show is discussing male breast cancer. Male diseases like breast and genital cancers aren't much spoken about in society and this is an important public message, at least to me.

Another surprise for this newer viewer is Eric knowing about Jai and Amit and his seeing Amit hurt on the bottom of the stairs and not doing anything. When I first began watching, he first learned that he had Parkinson's. I thought of him a sick older man, and yet he seemed so casual going in and out and not informing the paramedics. I guess I have a lot to learn about this show.

Long ago Aaron used to be a lot nicer, could be fiery at times, but not nasty as he is now. He was in a long relationship with Robert Sugden, brother of Victoria Sugden, They were together a long while earning the nickname of Robron. As for Eric, he was a well known wheeler dealer in many things, legal or illegal, including Dodgy antiques. Always being his own man and doing what he thought was best for himself.

[Perdita]

A little bit more info on Aaron and Robert. Aaron and Robert got married. Robert Sugden attacked Lee Posner, Wendy's son after he raped Victoria, Lee died from the injuries. Lee is the father of Victoria's son Harry. Robert got arrested for GBH. After Lee died, Robert and Aaron decided to flee but Robert hands himself to the police and is charged with Lee's murder and also Katie Sugden's murder, wife of Andy Sugden. They had an argument in a stable after Katie had a picture of him and Aaron kissing, Robert was married to Chrissie White at the time, the White family owned Home Farm then. During the argument he pushes Katie to the ground and the floor gives away, Katie fell to her death. Robert got sentenced to life in prison. Robert started divorce proceedings after starting his prison sentence.

[lizann]

I enjoy the scenes with Chas and Aaron, after she learned of his test and his socking Liam. Aaron has been such an angry character since I started watching (hitting Cain over the head with a wrench???), that I didn't see any positive side to him, and yesterday, he looked like a scared little boy.

I like that the show is discussing male breast cancer. Male diseases like breast and genital cancers aren't much spoken about in society and this is an important public message, at least to me.

Another surprise for this newer viewer is Eric knowing about Jai and Amit and his seeing Amit hurt on the bottom of the stairs and not doing anything. When I first began watching, he first learned that he had Parkinson's. I thought of him a sick older man, and yet he seemed so casual going in and out and not informing the paramedics. I guess I have a lot to learn about this show.

aaron is scared, he can be angry but also scared

eric was always on the bad side sometimes but val changed him i think

[Dennis tanner]

aaron is scared, he can be angry but also scared
Livesy is a loathsome piece of work and he needs to get a grip.

[lizann]

we met a new farmer, hope he becomes a regular

[Perdita]

we met a new farmer, hope he becomes a regular

Physically he reminded me of Zac....

[Son of Cain]

we met a new farmer, hope he becomes a regular

Return to the "good old days" when Emmerdale was about farming?1

[johntrevor]

Return to the "good old days" when Emmerdale was about farming?1

Most definitely

[ccahill2]

I really hope that Cain can figure out why Tom is so desperate to have him drop the robbery so as not to follow up with pawn shops or the police. I want Tom to go down. #FreeBelle.

[Dennis tanner]

I really hope that Cain can figure out why Tom is so desperate to have him drop the robbery so as not to follow up with pawn shops or the police. I want Tom to go down. #FreeBelle.

For what offence ?

[ccahill2]

For what offence ?

For messing with Belle. I'm not sure that she would leave Tom over that, and I'm sure he'd sweet talk his way out of it, but at least if Cain figures it out, Belle could be armed with knowledge.

[Son of Cain]

For what offence ?

Breathing.

[lizann]

ruby is gas and doesn't fear cain

[Dennis tanner]

For messing with Belle. I'm not sure that she would leave Tom over that, and I'm sure he'd sweet talk his way out of it, but at least if Cain figures it out, Belle could be armed with knowledge.
Messing with Belle is not going to get him thrown into The Chokey. Personally I just don't get why he wants so much control. Is he insecure and it's a trust issue ?

I am in Team Ruby and I am confused why Cain is so protective of the hypocrit Nate.

[ccahill2]

Not prison unless he physically beats her. I meant going down as in exposed and divorced.

I just knew he was going to take the dog to punish Belle for not quitting her job and staying with him full time. I could see him 'finding' it to make himself a hero in Belle's eyes and then poisoning it while she's at work to blame his death on her. Tom is a monster.

[lizann]

tom is jealous of vinny and belle

[johntrevor]

tom is jealous of vinny and belle

Tom is just jealous of everybody particularly Belle

[Dennis tanner]

Not prison unless he physically beats her. I meant going down as in exposed and divorced.

I just knew he was going to take the dog to punish Belle for not quitting her job and staying with him full time. I could see him 'finding' it to make himself a hero in Belle's eyes and then poisoning it while she's at work to blame his death on her. Tom is a monster.

The problem is that he's now just boring and predictable. He is irredeemable and must go....pronto.

[lizann]

The problem is that he's now just boring and predictable. He is irredeemable and must go....pronto.

no doubt tom will be killed off once the end of this long storyline

[Perdita]

no doubt tom will be killed off once the end of this long storyline

Usually the easiest way in soapland to dispose of an unwanted and unpleasant character...

[ccahill2]

Tom is just jealous of everybody particularly Belle

This is actually one of the stages of an abuser. They work very hard to isolate the spouse from family and friends to get her fully relying on them and then the abuse progresses through verbal abuse and ultimately physical abuse.

I actually see both Ruby and Tom working to isolate their spouses at this point. The difference is that to me I also see Ruby as hilarious and entertaining and I want to punch Tom through a wall.

Perhaps it's because Caleb is no prize himself and Belle just comes across as sweet and innocent and very naive and completely undeserving of what he is doing to her. In many ways, I think of Belle as a lost soul, and that makes her even more vulnerable.

[lizann]

This is actually one of the stages of an abuser. They work very hard to isolate the spouse from family and friends to get her fully relying on them and then the abuse progresses through verbal abuse and ultimately physical abuse.

I actually see both Ruby and Tom working to isolate their spouses at this point. The difference is that to me I also see Ruby as hilarious and entertaining and I want to punch Tom through a wall.

Perhaps it's because Caleb is no prize himself and Belle just comes across as sweet and innocent and very naive and completely undeserving of what he is doing to her. In many ways, I think of Belle as a lost soul, and that makes her even more vulnerable.


i do think belle was very lost after lisa despite large dingle family and ellis left tom came at a time she needed attention and company

if the dingles accept caleb, ruby in her outrageous way will accept them, all she has is caleb and nicky

[Snagglepus]

I think of Belle as a lost soul, and that makes her even more vulnerable.

And she is soon to become an orphan.

[johntrevor]

And she is soon to become an orphan.

Yes true. The writers have not yet addressed the passing of Steve Halliwel (Zak)

[Perdita]

Yes true. The writers have not yet addressed the passing of Steve Halliwel (Zak)

I think it is roughly six to 12 months or thereabouts before they mention the death of a character after the actor has passed.. Pearl died in July last year and we have just seen it mentioned in the show, Steve died December last year so I guess it could be summer before they will announce his passing. All depends on when the actor's family is in agreement for the character to die, I believe.

[Dennis tanner]

I think it is roughly six to 12 months or thereabouts before they mention the death of a character after the actor has passed.. Pearl died in July last year and we have just seen it mentioned in the show, Steve died December last year so I guess it could be summer before they will announce his passing. All depends on when the actor's family is in agreement for the character to die, I believe.

No doubt you are right but I find it very strange

[Perdita]

No doubt you are right but I find it very strange

It is to give the family time to grieve, quite understandable for me

[Dennis tanner]

It is to give the family time to grieve, quite understandable for me

Not to me. Get it done asap otherwise you might have to grieve twice.

[Perdita]

Not to me. Get it done asap otherwise you might have to grieve twice.

Grieve first so you can cope with memories better

[ccahill2]

Yes true. The writers have not yet addressed the passing of Steve Halliwel (Zak)

They're probably trying to spread out Tom's destruction of these newer ashes to drag out the story. j/k

[Son of Cain]

Piper dried out very quickly, after being bedraggled in the river? Must have a hair dryer at the vets.

[Dennis tanner]

Piper dried out very quickly, after being bedraggled in the river? Must have a hair dryer at the vets.

Pity Spamhead never bothered to go in the room where the cages are

That Nate is a Nasty hypocrit wheres as Sam is the salt of the earth

[johntrevor]

It is to give the family time to grieve, quite understandable for me

And to me

[lizann]

pearls passing has only now been addressed

nate forgets he was forgiven for worse with moira, the dingles are hypocrites but they forgive family

[Perdita]

pearls passing has only not been addressed

nate forgets he was forgiven for worse with moira, the dingles are hypocrites but they forgive family

Yes, it was addressed last week, I think, when Rhona had a letter informing her that Pearl has died, they had a toast to her later

[lizann]

Yes, it was addressed last week, I think, when Rhona had a letter informing her that Pearl has died, they had a toast to her later

sorry meant only now been mentioned, dying in Hong Kong with her son

[ccahill2]

I'm really disappointed that when Marlon and Rhona were discussing Gus stealing the passport in court, that they never once mentioned that he took it from Mary's unconscious body. I cannot think of a better way to expose the type of man he truly is.

I was finding myself fantasizing of Gus being married to Tom.

[lizann]

i thought matty wanted small low key wedding now a big do at home farm which kim is allowing with kerry paying

[Perdita]

I'm really disappointed that when Marlon and Rhona were discussing Gus stealing the passport in court, that they never once mentioned that he took it from Mary's unconscious body. I cannot think of a better way to expose the type of man he truly is.

I was finding myself fantasizing of Gus being married to Tom.

In soapland, important information in legal cases is never mentioned, would be too easy to convict a guilty person or declare them innocent as it would be too easy and slow down the storyline .... must have viewers incensed first at the injustice of it all .... all in the name of Drama ;)

[Dennis tanner]

I need to know how Angelica could be Rhona's barrister ?

[ccahill2]

I wish that Rhona asked Gus to present papers for permanent full joint custody when he made the offer and then she'll agree.

I think that he's repeating history like when he abandoned Ivy the first time. She will take care of Ivy while he's in prison and then he'll disappear with her again and Rhona will have no rights. I don't trust him at all.

[lizann]

ivy would be better adopted out, away from both toxic gus and rhona using her

[Son of Cain]

Rhona has become very vindictive, her priority now seems to be to defeat and hurt Gus rather than what is best for Ivy.

[lizann]

Rhona has become very vindictive, her priority now seems to be to defeat and hurt Gus rather than what is best for Ivy.

or best for leo april and marlon

[johntrevor]

Rhona has become very vindictive, her priority now seems to be to defeat and hurt Gus rather than what is best for Ivy.

Lets not forget that Gus stole the passport and the embryos just to get his own way in the first place, which is what started this merry-go-round.

[Son of Cain]

I hate it when a character is trying tell another something, and the other will not let them speak, so the news is never shared. Would they not say, let me speak, I am trying to tell you something?

[Dennis tanner]

Lets not forget that Gus stole the passport and the embryos just to get his own way in the first place, which is what started this merry-go-round.

He stole something that nobody else, apart from his wife, was interested in.

[Dennis tanner]

The big wedding. Will Cher appear herself or just have a load of notes delivered

[lizann]

has ethan even tried to find work in another law firm or thought of opening his own practice

[Son of Cain]

has ethan even tried to find work in another law firm or thought of opening his own practice

It is not even clear if he charges his neighbours for his advice. Money is never mentioned. I wonder if he has signed on?

[johntrevor]

He stole something that nobody else, apart from his wife, was interested in.

It was still illegal, hence the court case looming.

[lizann]

ha ha ha clever eric

[Son of Cain]

I should have known better, initially I thought Eric was scamming Kerry but then they fooled me into thinking he was doing a decent thing, and doubt myself. Kerry who is suppose to be street smart, has a necklace she thinks is valuable, takes it to Eric, who says it is not, and gives her the number of someone he knows, who may buy it. So what does she do, she sells it to Eric's friend, without first seeking out a third party, independent jeweller for another valuation - Oh dear.

[ccahill2]

I should have known better, initially I thought Eric was scamming Kerry .

I did too. I had suspected that he kept the original necklace and gave her back a fake that was worthless.

[Dennis tanner]

I should have known better, initially I thought Eric was scamming Kerry but then they fooled me into thinking he was doing a decent thing, and doubt myself. Kerry who is suppose to be street smart, has a necklace she thinks is valuable, takes it to Eric, who says it is not, and gives her the number of someone he knows, who may buy it. So what does she do, she sells it to Eric's friend, without first seeking out a third party, independent jeweller for another valuation - Oh dear.

Kerry was stupid on two fronts. She should have sold the goods before making any promises. She should not have sold to Eric or any of his chums

?10K for that wedding ?????

[ccahill2]

Didn't Torville and Dean say that they were going to come to the wedding? I was looking forward to seeing them again.

[Dennis tanner]

Didn't Torville and Dean say that they were going to come to the wedding? I was looking forward to seeing them again.

Leyla forgot to book the ice rink

[Son of Cain]

Kerry was stupid on two fronts. She should have sold the goods before making any promises. She should not have sold to Eric or any of his chums

?10K for that wedding ?????

Why on earth she did not sell it the moment she got back to the UK, I do not know? Chances are she actually stole it rather than it was given to her, so best to get rid of the evidence. As I recall she also had quite a lot of cash, has she spent all that? Pretty sure her fiance will turn up at some point, and it would not surprise me if he is not an old man in a wheelchair.

[Son of Cain]

I did too. I had suspected that he kept the original necklace and gave her back a fake that was worthless.

Eric would have his work cut out, to get a fake necklace made overnight.

[johntrevor]

Why on earth she did not sell it the moment she got back to the UK, I do not know? Chances are she actually stole it rather than it was given to her, so best to get rid of the evidence. As I recall she also had quite a lot of cash, has she spent all that? Pretty sure her fiance will turn up at some point, and it would not surprise me if he is not an old man in a wheelchair.

Since she returned she has been getting phone calls from someone demanding money, not sure who that will be.

[johntrevor]

ha ha ha clever eric

Bit of a nasty scam soooo...Eric, but she probably deserved it.

[Dennis tanner]

Bit of a nasty scam soooo...Eric, but she probably deserved it.

But do Bollard and his chum deserve the money ?

[lizann]

Since she returned she has been getting phone calls from someone demanding money, not sure who that will be.

yes and swirling pc brought her to the village after arrest for stolen jewellery perhaps eric and his mate will get done for it as sold on, kerry told amy she stole nothing

[Son of Cain]

Bit of a nasty scam soooo...Eric, but she probably deserved it.

Karma for Frank. Hope there is still more to come.

[lizann]

vanessa will miss tom at the hotel, he is so obsessed with belle, deranged and poor vinny bashed again

[johntrevor]

Karma for Frank. Hope there is still more to come.

Now Pollard has dropped his good guy act and demanding repayment with interest from Kerry, good luck with that Pollard.

[ccahill2]

The longer that I am watching this show, the more I am realizing that characters are not who I thought they might be. Eric is really a schemer and not the fragile old man I thought he was - I started watching around the time he learned he had Parkinson's and was pushing his wife away. I guess he assumes that Kerry will steal a piece of jewelry to pay off what he's demanding. I don't seem to like Kerry that much, though, so am not sure that I care.

[Son of Cain]

The longer that I am watching this show, the more I am realizing that characters are not who I thought they might be. Eric is really a schemer and not the fragile old man I thought he was - I started watching around the time he learned he had Parkinson's and was pushing his wife away. I guess he assumes that Kerry will steal a piece of jewelry to pay off what he's demanding. I don't seem to like Kerry that much, though, so am not sure that I care.

When Eric was introduced to us he was much worse than this. He was an antique dealer involved in all sort of dodgy dealing, he was the type to trick people out of family heirlooms or articles they thought had little value. He has mellowed over the years, but it has always lurked under the surface.

You should not like Kerry very much, she and her awful daughter Amy were responsible for the death of Frank, the father of Tracey and Vanessa. They were robbing the chocolate factory (now gone) when they accicdently set fire to the building while, unbeknown to them, Frank was inside, and perished in the fire.
Emmerdale is not a pretty, sleepy, village in the Yorkshire Dales it is "The village of the Damned".

[Dennis tanner]

Now Pollard has dropped his good guy act and demanding repayment with interest from Kerry, good luck with that Pollard.

It's tme that the precious Amy learnt that Bollard did not pay for her wedding. He merely lent the money to her mother

[lizann]

was there speculation eric killed wife elizabeth and used the plane crash with the body

he was always into deals, getting one over but now with blackmailing jai his devious side coming back out

ive no interest in jacob and victoria

[ccahill2]

I can't say that I'm sorry to see Jacob and Victoria split up. They were borderline ick, not only with the age difference, but because of her previous relationship.

I liked her when she felt guilty for using the peanut oil, but was never comfortable with them as a couple.

However, the writers seem to be wanting to show her as a martyr for doing so, when she never should have been in that situation to begin with.

[lizann]

I can't say that I'm sorry to see Jacob and Victoria split up. They were borderline ick, not only with the age difference, but because of her previous relationship.

I liked her when she felt guilty for using the peanut oil, but was never comfortable with them as a couple.

However, the writers seem to be wanting to show her as a martyr for doing so, when she never should have been in that situation to begin with.

i assume vic dumped him over leyla

[ccahill2]

The wedding seemed like such a casual gathering to me and not at all like I'd think a necklace like that could give (or Eric's money could).

[lizann]

The wedding seemed like such a casual gathering to me and not at all like I'd think a necklace like that could give (or Eric's money could).

why was home farm picked by amy and matty

[ccahill2]

I really wish the police could uncover a street cam that could expose that Tom was the attacker, but sadly I think we're stuck with him for awhile.

My only hope is that all of the cameras that Tom will be installing inside the house will ultimately provide evidence when Tom switches from terrorizing Belle to hurting her, or plotting against her. He doesn't seem to think too much when he is in a rage.

[Dennis tanner]

I can't say that I'm sorry to see Jacob and Victoria split up. They were borderline ick, not only with the age difference, but because of her previous relationship.

I liked her when she felt guilty for using the peanut oil, but was never comfortable with them as a couple.

However, the writers seem to be wanting to show her as a martyr for doing so, when she never should have been in that situation to begin with.

My issue is mainly with the treacherous Jacob. He has no sense whatsoever of family loyalty

[lizann]

hopefully swirling will look into any report about the robbery of tom and belles house, telling belle and other dingles there is none not go tell tom

[ccahill2]

I could only wish for this to be true. He has almost a cult leader persona that others seem to cling to and see only the facade that Tom wants to show them.

[ccahill2]

I'm laughing at some posts that I am reading about Moira's red dress and fascinator at the recent celebration. The consensus is that she was dressed up as the devil.

[Dennis tanner]

I could only wish for this to be true. He has almost a cult leader persona that others seem to cling to and see only the facade that Tom wants to show them.

The former clever Tinkerbelle is now unable to see the wood for the trees

[ccahill2]

Oddest to me was that police interrogation. They questioned everyone together. No one suspects Tom, but when Belle was talking, he was trying to edit to shift blame. I think that a police force would individually question each person to see whether their stories matched or were different. At least Belle mentioned the robbery that Tom never really reported, despite telling others he did.

[Son of Cain]

Oddest to me was that police interrogation. They questioned everyone together. No one suspects Tom, but when Belle was talking, he was trying to edit to shift blame. I think that a police force would individually question each person to see whether their stories matched or were different. At least Belle mentioned the robbery that Tom never really reported, despite telling others he did.

Soaps rarely if ever follow correct police procedure, frequently interviewing people together, and never noticing when one person tries to steer the interview in a certain direction, away from things they do not want discussed. Anyone who watches police procedural documentaries will realize this would never hpopen in real life.

[Son of Cain]

Considering Vinny was hit on the back of the head, his face was very messed up. Are we to assume these injuries were caused by him hitting the floor face first, in which case I would have expected a broken nose.?

[Dennis tanner]

Considering Vinny was hit on the back of the head, his face was very messed up. Are we to assume these injuries were caused by him hitting the floor face first, in which case I would have expected a broken nose.?

Quite correct but expecting the actor to have his nose broken for a bit of drama would have been too much to ask

Belle appears to have forgotten that the burglary was nor reported

[Son of Cain]

Considering Vinny was hit on the back of the head, his face was very messed up. Are we to assume these injuries were caused by him hitting the floor face first, in which case I would have expected a broken nose.?


Quite correct but expecting the actor to have his nose broken for a bit of drama would have been too much to ask

Belle appears to have forgotten that the burglary was nor reported

I was not suggesting they actually break his nose. Just stick a plaster on it and pretend. Although actors like Marlon Bando or Robert De Niro who follow "The Method" might have gone all in.

[johntrevor]

I was not suggesting they actually break his nose. Just stick a plaster on it and pretend. Although actors like Marlon Bando or Robert De Niro who follow "The Method" might have gone all in.

HaHa I think MOST of us got that.

[lizann]

gail should have made a very poisonous cocktail for tom

do we think gus will take off with ivy?

[johntrevor]

[QUOTE=lizann;do we think gus will take off with ivy?[/QUOTE]

Definitely

[Son of Cain]

Nor sure Emmerdale is the place to start a PT business. Billy had three clients at his first session, two of them, Bear and Sam, did not want to be there, and probably were not paying anything. Manpreet is probably fitter than Billy. He mentioned Nate, also fitter than him.
Hope we are not heading for an affair between Billy and Manpreet.

[katie hunter]

Nor sure Emmerdale is the place to start a PT business. Billy had three clients at his first session, two of them, Bear and Sam, did not want to be there, and probably were not paying anything. Manpreet is probably fitter than Billy. He mentioned Nate, also fitter than him.
Hope we are not heading for an affair between Billy and Manpreet.

Before last week I can't remember them ever really interacting and now it seem like they are heading for an affair 🙄

[Snagglepus]

Yesterday I cudden even spell mcannick, now I is one.

[lizann]

Before last week I can't remember them ever really interacting and now it seem like they are heading for an affair 🙄

meena dated Billy, kidnapped him and Dawn on their wedding day

[Dennis tanner]

Evil Rhona...Stupid Judge

[Perdita]

Yesterday I cudden even spell mcannick, now I is one.

And I can keep my nice long clean fingernails!

[Son of Cain]

Yesterday I cudden even spell mcannick, now I is one.

Must be genetic, knowledge passed to Sarah in the womb.

[Son of Cain]

And I can keep my nice long clean fingernails!

Latex gloves and Mandy's Pamper Parlour.

[johntrevor]

Yesterday I cudden even spell mcannick, now I is one.

HaHa I like that...brilliant

[johntrevor]

Evil Rhona...Stupid Judge

I saw it as clever judge sussing Gus for the lying manipulating b****** that he is.

[lizann]

was rhona granted full custody of ivy

[lizann]

mack jealous of new mechanic sarah

[Dennis tanner]

I saw it as clever judge sussing Gus for the lying manipulating b****** that he is.

Are you on about the Gus who pleaded guilty ?

[Son of Cain]

Vinny's injuries healed up pretty quick, must be the good Yorkshire air,

[Son of Cain]

was rhona granted full custody of ivy

I do not think so, surely the courts and social services would have to come to a decision about that.
Will Rhona have to give up working at the vets to look after Ivy? If so how will they manage for money? Marlon cannot earn much at The Woolpack. He works in a pub whose main trade should be tourists, but we hardly ever see any in there. There really cannot be enough meal trade to justify a full time chef.

[lizann]

marlon is very cut up about gus sentence

[Dennis tanner]

I do not think so, surely the courts and social services would have to come to a decision about that.
Will Rhona have to give up working at the vets to look after Ivy? If so how will they manage for money? Marlon cannot earn much at The Woolpack. He works in a pub whose main trade should be tourists, but we hardly ever see any in there. There really cannot be enough meal trade to justify a full time chef.

April has to go to Hotton 7 days a week for several paper rounds

[Snagglepus]

So if Will's wife walked out on them years ago and he is down on her records as next of kin, how did they have his mobile number. Mobile phones may not have been that common at that time or he would have had new contracts/numbers over that time. He wouldn't have had one during the time he was in prison.

[katie hunter]

So if Will's wife walked out on them years ago and he is down on her records as next of kin, how did they have his mobile number. Mobile phones may not have been that common at that time or he would have had new contracts/numbers over that time. He wouldn't have had one during the time he was in prison.

Good point!

[lizann]

So if Will's wife walked out on them years ago and he is down on her records as next of kin, how did they have his mobile number. Mobile phones may not have been that common at that time or he would have had new contracts/numbers over that time. He wouldn't have had one during the time he was in prison.

is will still married to her, were they married?

[Dennis tanner]

Good point!

She must have done a bit of research. How did she even know in which area he lives? .

[johntrevor]

Are you on about the Gus who pleaded guilty ?

Yep that's the one

[ccahill2]

Once again, huge misunderstanding from a newer viewer.

I heard Mary chastising Gus for stealing Rhona's passport when she was unconscious. I just went back to watch old episodes and found that this is not quite what happened.

Gus, in fact, called an ambulance and really cared about Mary's being okay. I had assumed that he had a depraved indifference to human life and pulled the passport out of her sweater pocket. I was so annoyed that Rhona didn't lead with this in court, that Mary didn't get up to testify about that. However, that wasn't the case at all.

It didn't make his stealing the passport any less evil, but he absolutely got Mary the help that she needed and showed concern.

It makes this story less cut and dry to me. He is still a rat. He still should have allowed Rhona joint custody and he still shouldn't have been ready to take the baby to France.

In a way I was cheering on Rhona when she didn't give the preprepared statement that wasn't the truth at all. But she also went way overboard. I understand it from an emotional level, but she's been preaching putting Ivy first, and she did anything but that. Ivy is going to have quite the stigma in life, being the child of a convict. Of course on soaps, almost everyone is, but my eyes were open and I can admit that the situation was far more complicated than I believed by the more recent scenes that I'd seen.

Eight years is a little crazy. Gus didn't kill anyone. He is guilty but rapists get out of prison sooner than that.

I haven't watched that long, but I understand where Marlon is coming from. He seems like such a sweet, earnest guy. Ivy's best chance for a normal future is with him, not either biological parent.

[katie hunter]

Once again, huge misunderstanding from a newer viewer.

I heard Mary chastising Gus for stealing Rhona's passport when she was unconscious. I just went back to watch old episodes and found that this is not quite what happened.

Gus, in fact, called an ambulance and really cared about Mary's being okay. I had assumed that he had a depraved indifference to human life and pulled the passport out of her sweater pocket. I was so annoyed that Rhona didn't lead with this in court, that Mary didn't get up to testify about that. However, that wasn't the case at all.

It didn't make his stealing the passport any less evil, but he absolutely got Mary the help that she needed and showed concern.

It makes this story less cut and dry to me. He is still a rat. He still should have allowed Rhona joint custody and he still shouldn't have been ready to take the baby to France.

In a way I was cheering on Rhona when she didn't give the preprepared statement that wasn't the truth at all. But she also went way overboard. I understand it from an emotional level, but she's been preaching putting Ivy first, and she did anything but that. Ivy is going to have quite the stigma in life, being the child of a convict. Of course on soaps, almost everyone is, but my eyes were open and I can admit that the situation was far more complicated than I believed by the more recent scenes that I'd seen.

Eight years is a little crazy. Gus didn't kill anyone. He is guilty but rapists get out of prison sooner than that.

I haven't watched that long, but I understand where Marlon is coming from. He seems like such a sweet, earnest guy. Ivy's best chance for a normal future is with him, not either biological parent.

Gus is a rat but what Rhona did was purely for her own selfish reasons. She wants Ivy for herself, she didn't think about her family or the eventual impact it will have on Ivy not having her father in her life. Marlon is right to be angry IMO.

[lizann]

I do not think so, surely the courts and social services would have to come to a decision about that.
Will Rhona have to give up working at the vets to look after Ivy? If so how will they manage for money? Marlon cannot earn much at The Woolpack. He works in a pub whose main trade should be tourists, but we hardly ever see any in there. There really cannot be enough meal trade to justify a full time chef.

i think ivy would be better adopted out to a new unknown family away from both gus and rhona

[Son of Cain]

Why is Rose in Emmerdale, I must have missed the bit when she explained it.

[lizann]

Why is Rose in Emmerdale, I must have missed the bit when she explained it.

she was hotten general despite being in benidorm, conveniently bumps into dawn and with evan sick, a donation match for sale likely

[Son of Cain]

she was hotten general despite being in benidorm, conveniently bumps into dawn and with evan sick, a donation match for sale likely

Rewatched. - Rose said she was at a wake, that turned into a boozy all nighter, fell down some wonky stairs, and broke her arm. All explained in one sentence with no detail. Very convenient, then just happened to be checking out when Dawn arrived. Must be one of the most contrived introduction of a new character ever. Why would the hospital have Will listed as her next of kin. Usually when you go into hospital they ask your details, including your next of kin. Does the hospital have a list of everyone in the country and their next of kin. Sounds like Rose has not lived in the area for years so I doubt the hospital would still have her details on file. Anyway would a broken arm be considered a serious enough life threatening condition, that necessitated contacting a next of kin. Yes, contrived or what.

[ccahill2]

Anyway would a broken arm be considered a serious enough life threatening condition, that necessitated contacting a next of kin. Yes, contrived or what.

You speak the truth. Now, if she had a head injury from the fall and was in such bad shape that the doctor's didn't believe she could consent to medical intervention, that would be different, but for a broken arm? Simply absurd and a plot point not well thought out.

[lizann]

dawn bringing mother rose to home farm to stay without even asking kim

charles going bob marley jamaican on manpreet

[Son of Cain]

Whoever owns the house that Rose was house sitting, is not going to be too pleased.

Rose, a clone of Kerry and a reincarnation of Faith, just what the village needs.

Still waiting for Charles to find the bits in the bible on forgiveness.

[katie hunter]

dawn bringing mother rose to home farm to stay without even asking kim

charles going bob marley jamaican on manpreet

Dawn changed her tune pretty quickly. Yesterday she was saying that Kim had been more of a mother to her, today she rolls out the red-carpet to Rose. Bizarre behaviour.

[ccahill2]

The scene with Chas and Charity and the prosthetics was touching and very real. I like that the show can show intimate scenes like that that are written with dignity.

[johntrevor]

Dawn changed her tune pretty quickly. Yesterday she was saying that Kim had been more of a mother to her, today she rolls out the red-carpet to Rose. Bizarre behaviour.

Totally agree

[ccahill2]

And it doesn't even make sense. There is one thing to want to talk to your mother to learn more about her psyche and what makes you you. It is another thing to not only invite her to live with you, but in another's home. That's quite the violation, and it doesn't even make sense. It's as though another set of writers write this episode.

[Perdita]

And it doesn't even make sense. There is one thing to want to talk to your mother to learn more about her psyche and what makes you you. It is another thing to not only invite her to live with you, but in another's home. That's quite the violation, and it doesn't even make sense. It's as though another set of writers write this episode.

I keep saying this... it is not real life, it is DRAMA... unfortunately not the kind where you keep your breath until the end...

[Son of Cain]

I keep saying this... it is not real life, it is DRAMA... unfortunately not the kind where you keep your breath until the end...

Drama, yes, but poor drama. I think good drama has to be rooted in reality to some extent. Otherwise instead of being gripped by the story, you are watching it thinking, this is silly, and not fully engaging with it.

Instead of introducing Rose before she was needed, they could have found out about Evan's leukemia then realized that they needed to trace her, as she might be a match for his treatment. Far more drama if it was a race against time to find her before Evan seccumbed to his illness.

[ccahill2]

Wow. Major powerful show today. I loved Chas going off on Kerry. I loved her soul searching, realizing that she didn't want the prosthetics. (Can mastectomy patients get reconstruction in the UK or is that cosmetic and out of pocket?). They didn't mention that third option at all that I can remember. I loved her knowing that she was more than her body. I especially loved how wonderful Charity was and helped her to get over that hump by being there for her.

The Dingles are a mess, but I love how they stick together when times are bad.

Then the baby. When I saw that changing table without any raised edge, I knew what was about to happen and the thought made me sick, and that thump when Evan hit the floor was horrible. That baby is so lucky that he wasn't brain damaged from the fall.

However, that fall might have been a stroke of fate if it allowed for a diagnosis that led to early warnings about a potential disease as awful as leukemia, to allow the family to stay one step ahead of it. I'm glad that this didn't turn into an investigation into abuse. But I'm guilty as well. When she saw the bruise, the first thing that I wondered was whether Rose was alone with the baby and was she drinking at that time.

[johntrevor]

Drama, yes, but poor drama. I think good drama has to be rooted in reality to some extent. Otherwise instead of being gripped by the story, you are watching it thinking, this is silly, and not fully engaging with it.

Instead of introducing Rose before she was needed, they could have found out about Evan's leukemia then realized that they needed to trace her, as she might be a match for his treatment. Far more drama if it was a race against time to find her before Evan seccumbed to his illness.

Now the doctor has mentioned bone marrow to the family, woudn't it be unbelievable if Rose was the only match ? It's as if it's almost BOUND to happen.

[johntrevor]

Drama, yes, but poor drama. I think good drama has to be rooted in reality to some extent. Otherwise instead of being gripped by the story, you are watching it thinking, this is silly, and not fully engaging with it.

Instead of introducing Rose before she was needed, they could have found out about Evan's leukemia then realized that they needed to trace her, as she might be a match for his treatment. Far more drama if it was a race against time to find her before Evan seccumbed to his illness.

As you say if it's not got at least a resemblance to reality it becomes more like a comedy than a drama.

[Son of Cain]

Now the doctor has mentioned bone marrow to the family, woudn't it be unbelievable if Rose was the only match ? It's as if it's almost BOUND to happen.

Yes, and isn't really really lucky that she was in the hospital at the same time as dawn? Can you believe it?

[lizann]

you'd think billy's mother or brother or father would come see evan

[Dennis tanner]

you'd think billy's mother or brother or father would come see evan

They have been sacked

[lizann]

They have been sacked

recast or at least have them call about, mention it on screen

[Son of Cain]

Wow. Major powerful show today. I loved Chas going off on Kerry. I loved her soul searching, realizing that she didn't want the prosthetics. (Can mastectomy patients get reconstruction in the UK or is that cosmetic and out of pocket?). They didn't mention that third option at all that I can remember. I loved her knowing that she was more than her body. I especially loved how wonderful Charity was and helped her to get over that hump by being there for her.

I think mastectomy patients can get reconstruction on the NHS this is something that should be discuss with them before surgery. It can be part of the mastectomy surgery or carried out after, depending on chemotherapy or further cancer treatment. In Chas's case I would think they would now have to wait for her wounds to heal.
I may be mistaken but I seem to remember her having that conversation and deciding against it.

[lizann]

is gabby and thomas living back with kim

[Dennis tanner]

is gabby and thomas living back with kim


I don't recall Gobby moiving out

[tammyy2j]

Too many sad unhappy storylines

[ccahill2]

With Tom so crazed, I don't see things going well for Belle at tomorrow's party. I kind of wish she'd go Jack Nicholson on him.

[lizann]

I don't recall Gobby moiving out

i thought she had

[Dennis tanner]

With Tom so crazed, I don't see things going well for Belle at tomorrow's party. I kind of wish she'd go Jack Nicholson on him.

Belle knows that her marriage is rubbish but she is too proud and stubborn to do anything about it

[Perdita]

Belle knows that her marriage is rubbish but she is too proud and stubborn to do anything about it

She has no idea what is happening.... he turns everything to be about her being in the wrong and she knows she is not deep down... some people live like that for many years because they have no self confidence left to get out of that relationship.

[lizann]

not an enjoyable episode of come dine with me

[Son of Cain]

not an enjoyable episode of come dine with me

The cake went down like a lead balloon.

[Dennis tanner]

She has no idea what is happening.... he turns everything to be about her being in the wrong and she knows she is not deep down... some people live like that for many years because they have no self confidence left to get out of that relationship.

The looks on her face tells me that she does know and she certainly knows that he deliberately pushed the cake on the floor and deliberately scalded her

[ccahill2]

I was wishing that Rhonda stormed out of there in an angry huff and ran over Tom. And in a blind panic, she backed up and drove over him again.

[lizann]

who did the cooking tom or belle, delicious menu

[Dennis tanner]

who did the cooking tom or belle, delicious menu

None of the cast I reckon

[Snagglepus]

I turned it off at part two as I thought something had gone wrong with my stream when it went back to the beginning.
When I watched it later on catch up I was puzzled when it did it again and I was seeing bits I didn't remember from part one.
Confused dot com.

[Son of Cain]

I turned it off at part two as I thought something had gone wrong with my stream when it went back to the beginning.
When I watched it later on catch up I was puzzled when it did it again and I was seeing bits I didn't remember from part one.
Confused dot com.

I had the same problem, I thought it had somehow rewound itself and went back to the beginning again. Then I looked at the progress bar and saw it was half way, so wondered if it was a fault at the broadcast end, and they were a broadcasting from the beginning again.
I think it was meant to show the event from two people's point of view, but not sure whose, presumably Tom and Belle. Not very well done, I thought. Will need to watch again.

[johntrevor]

I had the same problem, I thought it had somehow rewound itself and went back to the beginning again. Then I looked at the progress bar and saw it was half way, so wondered if it was a fault at the broadcast end, and they were a broadcasting from the beginning again.
I think it was meant to show the event from two people's point of view, but not sure whose, presumably Tom and Belle. Not very well done, I thought. Will need to watch again.

I realised what was going on after reading about it saying it was being from 2 different perspectives, and noticing Belle was wearing different clothes.

[ccahill2]

I found the episode powerful in that we had one couple with a loud disagreement, albeit one with much love, that isn't an abusive scenario, but rather a severe breakdown in communication, and that is what everyone sees as a bad marriage, and then we have Belle and Tom who put on a good and happy front, and everyone thinks they are a happy couple - right before Tom gives Belle burns by holding her hand under the steaming water. What a sicko.

I found that beginning very confusing, as did the rest of you. It almost seemed like a preview scene followed by the show, but in hindsight there was a different point of view and insertions when shown again. I wish that the presentation was a bit more obvious, but it's what was.

The episode was painful to watch. I know that Tom was like a pressure cooker going into the party, and it kept getting more and more frightening as I was anticipating what was to come.

[Son of Cain]

I realised what was going on after reading about it saying it was being from 2 different perspectives, and noticing Belle was wearing different clothes.

We only saw that Belle had changed her clothes because the second half started at a point in time before the first half did. Personally I did not think it added anything to show the same story twice, except perhaps confusion. If we saw the parts that were added in the second half, first time around, I think it would be even more powerful. It seemed to me that the program makers got carried away trying to make it more "arty". On the plus side the scriptwriters got to write a shorter script by showing the same scenes twice, admittedly from a different viewpoint. If others found it more powerful, each to their own.

[Son of Cain]

Wondering if Tom is in some way connected to Lachlan?

[Dennis tanner]

I found the episode powerful in that we had one couple with a loud disagreement, albeit one with much love, that isn't an abusive scenario, but rather a severe breakdown in communication, and that is what everyone sees as a bad marriage, and then we have Belle and Tom who put on a good and happy front, and everyone thinks they are a happy couple - right before Tom gives Belle burns by holding her hand under the steaming water. What a sicko.

We also had Yorkshire's laziest Vet with Yorkshire's most useless beautician

[Perdita]

I missed the bit where Tom returned Belle's rings.. how did he explain he got them?

[Son of Cain]

I missed the bit where Tom returned Belle's rings.. how did he explain he got them?

In the opening scene, he said the police rang yesterday morning and said "Burglars must have dropped them off at some random pawn shop". Did not say how the police actually found them. But it's good to know there is so little crime, that the police have time to go checking "random pawn shops".

[ccahill2]

I've been shipping Mary and Suzy, but I'm now so annoyed with how Suzy cut Belle off when she was obviously in agony, yesterday. How blind could she be? Belle was at that table practically screaming for help and Suzy just changed the subject and walked away.

I know that the show was going for how Belle is silent about what she is going through, a common sign of abused women, but I saw her breaking down at that table.

So now I believe that Mary deserves better, even if that relationship is a non-issue for the moment.

[ccahill2]

For someone as self-righteous as Claudette, she's sure raised a messed up family. Poor Nicky.

But I was having fun with Kerry turning the tables on Eric.

I hope that Lydia didn't unconsciously plant a seed in psycho Tom about a baby vs the dog. I still think that Tom is going to run over Piper and blame it on Belle for not watching him.

[Dennis tanner]

In the opening scene, he said the police rang yesterday morning and said "Burglars must have dropped them off at some random pawn shop". Did not say how the police actually found them. But it's good to know there is so little crime, that the police have time to go checking "random pawn shops".

Belle could easily find out that it's a total lie. Will she bother ?????

[lizann]

another crash not shown, nicky was well steamed, booze should smell from him and naughty ethan

[ccahill2]

another crash not shown, nicky was well steamed, booze should smell from him and naughty ethan

Without doubt. It should be so obvious, and it seemed as though he cleaned up without any cuts on his face showing. He looked too cleaned up. It was hard to believe.

Caleb really laid into Nicky before he left. Poor Nicky. He was a stabilizing force, or as much as can be, between Caleb and Ruby. If he doesn't recover, I think they will be more at odds than ever.

[Perdita]

Without doubt. It should be so obvious, and it seemed as though he cleaned up without any cuts on his face showing. He looked too cleaned up. It was hard to believe.

Caleb really laid into Nicky before he left. Poor Nicky. He was a stabilizing force, or as much as can be, between Caleb and Ruby. If he doesn't recover, I think they will be more at odds than ever.

When are Caleb and Ruby ever not at odds?

[ccahill2]

When are Caleb and Ruby ever not at odds?

It's their love language. Not one that I'd want, but it obviously works for them because they keep coming back for more. I actually think that if one gave up their 'passion,' the other wouldn't feel they care anymore.

[lizann]

as dawn isn't around over sick evan, you'd think rose would live elsewhere

[ccahill2]

I am so so glad that the police knew that Nicky wasn't driving. Ethan's slowly having a breakdown. I'm so annoyed at him. It's a shame he's so handsome.

I loved the talk that Kim had with Lydia. Kim is hard as nails, but I just love her when she doles out advice and acts as a friend to others. I was rather taken aback when she chastised Lydia for having it out with Rose, so glad when she apologized. I have a soft spot for Lydia.

Who would have ever thought that Kim would become The Sage?

[Dennis tanner]

I am so so glad that the police knew that Nicky wasn't driving. Ethan's slowly having a breakdown. I'm so annoyed at him. It's a shame he's so handsome.

I loved the talk that Kim had with Lydia. Kim is hard as nails, but I just love her when she doles out advice and acts as a friend to others. I was rather taken aback when she chastised Lydia for having it out with Rose, so glad when she apologized. I have a soft spot for Lydia.

Who would have ever thought that Kim would become The Sage?

Nice posting. I don't believe that Ethan is a bad person. He just panicked

[flappinfanny]

Loved Kerry getting her own back on Pollard. I think deep down even he was impressed with the Geordie trollop. I just love Ruby, Beth Cordingly amazing in the role.

[Son of Cain]

Loved Kerry getting her own back on Pollard. I think deep down even he was impressed with the Geordie trollop. I just love Ruby, Beth Cordingly amazing in the role.

I hope they are not expecting us to feel sorry for Kerry.

Is it now official, that Kerry and her dreadful daughter, were never involved in Frank's death? The recent scene with Tracey and Kerry in the shop, showed no animosity towards Kerry. If I was in Tracey's place I would never speak another word to Kerry, in fact I would have reported her to the police. Why does Amy live in a place, or Kerry return there, when there is still a chance that their involvement in Frank's death could be revealed?

Official Frank's death never happened?

[Perdita]

I hope they are not expecting us to feel sorry for Kerry.

Is it now official, that Kerry and her dreadful daughter, were never involved in Frank's death? The recent scene with Tracey and Kerry in the shop, showed no animosity towards Kerry. If I was in Tracey's place I would never speak another word to Kerry, in fact I would have reported her to the police. Why does Amy live in a place, or Kerry return there, when there is still a chance that their involvement in Frank's death could be revealed?

Official Frank's death never happened?

Did they ever became aware of Amy and Kerry's involvement in the fire starting?

[Son of Cain]

Did they ever became aware of Amy and Kerry's involvement in the fire starting?

As I recall they did know, but during an argument Kerry fell over, or was pushed, hit her head, and was in a coma for a while. Kerry blackmailed them not to say anything or she would go to the police and say she was attacked. Worse part was the money they stole was charity money for a children's hospital.

[ccahill2]

Those were some nice scenes between Moira and Ruby. Beth Cordingly has some really huge acting chops. She's so beautiful but isn't afraid to get dirty or ugly.

I am so glad that Charles called the police. It's a bit ironic after his own secrets, but it's the only way for Ethan to move forward. I'm just surprised that he directly called the police rather than calling an attorney (or what the equivalent is in the UK) to have them make the connection.

[Dennis tanner]

I am so glad that Charles called the police. It's a bit ironic after his own secrets, but it's the only way for Ethan to move forward. I'm just surprised that he directly called the police rather than calling an attorney (or what the equivalent is in the UK) to have them make the connection.
When you make confession to a priest it's supposed to be in cofidence. Useless priest.

As for fraudster Frank, it was an accident

[Perdita]

Those were some nice scenes between Moira and Ruby. Beth Cordingly has some really huge acting chops. She's so beautiful but isn't afraid to get dirty or ugly.

I am so glad that Charles called the police. It's a bit ironic after his own secrets, but it's the only way for Ethan to move forward. I'm just surprised that he directly called the police rather than calling an attorney (or what the equivalent is in the UK) to have them make the connection.

Lawyer or Solicitor is the equivalent name for attorney in UK

[Son of Cain]

When you make confession to a priest it's supposed to be in cofidence. Useless priest.

As for fraudster Frank, it was an accident

Ethan did not confess to a priest, he confessed to his father. Pretty sure Charles is a Angican vicar, not a Catholic priest, so the confidence of the confessional probably does not apply.

Frank's death may have been an accident, in that they did not set out to kill him, but it was still an unlawful act that happened during the furtherance of a crime. Probably would be seen as involuntary manslaughter, or unlawful act manslaughter both of which carry custodial sentences, and the dreadful mother and daughter were quite happy to see someone else get the blame.

[johntrevor]

Ethan did not confess to a priest, he confessed to his father. Pretty sure Charles is a Angican vicar, not a Catholic priest, so the confidence of the confessional probably does not apply.

Frank's death may have been an accident, in that they did not set out to kill him, but it was still an unlawful act that happened during the furtherance of a crime. Probably would be seen as involuntary manslaughter, or unlawful act manslaughter both of which carry custodial sentences, and the dreadful mother and daughter were quite happy to see someone else get the blame.

Good post.Well said

[lizann]

ethan choosing to now live in a barn

ella has to be connected to meena

vinnie has money, he should travel the word, get outside of emmerdale to meet new people

[Son of Cain]

vinnie has money, he should travel the word, get outside of emmerdale to meet new people

Get outside of Emmerdale, are you kidding, is that even possible. Did you ever watch "Under the Dome".

[Dennis tanner]

Ethan did not confess to a priest, he confessed to his father. Pretty sure Charles is a Angican vicar, not a Catholic priest, so the confidence of the confessional probably does not apply.
All vicars are priests

Frank's death may have been an accident, in that they did not set out to kill him, but it was still an unlawful act that happened during the furtherance of a crime. Probably would be seen as involuntary manslaughter, or unlawful act manslaughter both of which carry custodial sentences, and the dreadful mother and daughter were quite happy to see someone else get the blame. Fair enough. Can we stop them being refered to as murderers then ???

[Son of Cain]

All vicars are priests Fair enough. Can we stop them being refered to as murderers then ???

All vicars may be priests, but not all priests take confession. Ethan was not speaking to Charles as a priest in a confessional, so should have no expectation of confidentiality.

I cannot recall if I have ever referred to them as murderers, usually I say they were responsible for his death.

[lizann]

ethan is very clean from staying in a barn

[Dennis tanner]

All vicars may be priests, but not all priests take confession. Ethan was not speaking to Charles as a priest in a confessional, so should have no expectation of confidentiality. Accepted


I cannot recall if I have ever referred to them as murderers, usually I say they were responsible for his death. Many do though

[ccahill2]

Maybe it's because I was a newer viewer who didn't know the history of the characters, but I still have a harshness to Charles for planting the necklace on his father, who died with everyone believing he was a thief.

Maybe it's with that lesson learned that he turned Ethan in, but it all came across very hypocritical to me.

I don't know why Suni hasn't told Ruby and Caleb how heroic Nicky was, racing to come to save him from those who attacked him. I suppose it has to linger so the story could drag on and they won't realize that Ethan was helping him to save Suni.

[Son of Cain]

Maybe it's because I was a newer viewer who didn't know the history of the characters, but I still have a harshness to Charles for planting the necklace on his father, who died with everyone believing he was a thief.

Maybe it's with that lesson learned that he turned Ethan in, but it all came across very hypocritical to me.

I don't know why Suni hasn't told Ruby and Caleb how heroic Nicky was, racing to come to save him from those who attacked him. I suppose it has to linger so the story could drag on and they won't realize that Ethan was helping him to save Suni.

Charles is a sanctimonious hypocrite who is always preaching about forgiveness but does not always practice what he preaches.

Suni - I think it is more likely that he is scared if he tells them, they, particularly Ruby, will blame him for what happened to Nicky.

[Dennis tanner]

Charles is a sanctimonious hypocrite who is always preaching about forgiveness but does not always practice what he preaches.

I agree about the BIB but I don't recall actually hearing him preach.

[ccahill2]

What an incredibly disturbing episode. Poor Belle.

[johntrevor]

What an incredibly disturbing episode. Poor Belle.

She need to get out of his control and divorce him quickly, while she is still alive and able to.

[lizann]

She need to get out of his control and divorce him quickly, while she is still alive and able to.

belle or mandy or lydia will probably end up killing tom

[ccahill2]

I kind of like the idea of him being gored in a field of wild bores. But before that, he will have a knife wound from each and every Dingle. And one from me in good measure.

Do not kick the pig.

[lizann]

aaron will sort out ethan and tom

tom using suicide threat to get back in with belle

would sam have other nieces and nephews from tina and nathan

[ccahill2]

Although it might be considered an important story to tell, I am not getting much enjoyment or relaxation tuning in these days to see Tom getting more and more depraved, hurting Belle, and knowing that the poor dog's days are marked Fatal Attraction style, if my gut is telling me correctly.

But my heart is with Angelica at that juvi center and I wish we could have scenes with her. It is still pretty bizarre that Cathy got off scott free (well, with a huge burden to bear), while Angel is incarcerated. We saw Cathy doing the driving most of the time. I still don't even understand when or why they changed drivers. But I want to see less of violent Tom and more about sweet Angel keeping her head above water as she goes through her sentence. I actually wish we could have scenes where Belle returns to the center to visit Angel, talk through situations, and to help her to deal with it all.

[Son of Cain]

Although it might be considered an important story to tell, I am not getting much enjoyment or relaxation tuning in these days to see Tom getting more and more depraved, hurting Belle, and knowing that the poor dog's days are marked Fatal Attraction style, if my gut is telling me correctly.

But my heart is with Angelica at that juvi center and I wish we could have scenes with her. It is still pretty bizarre that Cathy got off scott free (well, with a huge burden to bear), while Angel is incarcerated. We saw Cathy doing the driving most of the time. I still don't even understand when or why they changed drivers. But I want to see less of violent Tom and more about sweet Angel keeping her head above water as she goes through her sentence. I actually wish we could have scenes where Belle returns to the center to visit Angel, talk through situations, and to help her to deal with it all.

Usually when a character is sent to "the chokey", as Dennis would say, it is because the actor wants to leave, or their contract is not being renewed, unless they are a long serving major character like, Cain or Sally or David in Corrie. Not sure which in the case of Rebecca Bakes. If or when see Angel again I suspect it will be after her release and she will probably return with a new head. As for Belle, I think she has more than enough to deal with in her own life at present. Cathy probably escaped "the chokey" because she was not leaving the programme rather than for any reason that made sense.

[ccahill2]

Thanks for that. Actually that's a lot like what an American soap that I watch also does. I just didn't consider it with a child.