Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[lizann]

We haven't seen her working on her own farm, what does she do, does she do it single handed.
She did not look comfortable when Moira was telling her about Holly, and her dislike of drugs.
Did she say she had a son? Is it Ray? I don't think I have seen them together.

what if she is rays boss

[Son of Cain]

Do the police know the cause of Nate's death ?

[Son of Cain]

Wonder who pays the electricity bill for the bomb shelter ?

[johntrevor]

Wonder who pays the electricity bill for the bomb shelter ?

Emmerdale refuse to divulge that information, their spokesperson said

[Son of Cain]

Emmerdale refuse to divulge that information, their spokesperson said

Is this their way of admitting they are stealing the electricity.
Though I would have expected it to come from a generator.

[katie hunter]

Wonder who pays the electricity bill for the bomb shelter ?

Good question!

I want to know how Cain managed to organise a visa to Australia in less than 24 hours.

[Perdita]

Good question!

I want to know how Cain managed to organise a visa to Australia in less than 24 hours.

I did that 10 years ago, online, no problem at all

[Son of Cain]

Not sure I can take much more of John and Mack's bomb shelter chats. Much as I prefer Mack to John, I am beginning to wish John's arrow had hit Mack's heart.

[johntrevor]

Not sure I can take much more of John and Mack's bomb shelter chats. Much as I prefer Mack to John, I am beginning to wish John's arrow had hit Mack's heart.

I would much prefer Mack to live, as far as I am concerned John has been an unbelievable nonentity from the start.

[Perdita]

Not sure I can take much more of John and Mack's bomb shelter chats. Much as I prefer Mack to John, I am beginning to wish John's arrow had hit Mack's heart.

Nooooooooooooooooooo, I agree Mack is quite annoying with the way he keeps taunting John, he probably would have been home by now if he had kept his mouth shut but it looks we are coming to a conclusion soon...

[Son of Cain]

Nooooooooooooooooooo, I agree Mack is quite annoying with the way he keeps taunting John, he probably would have been home by now if he had kept his mouth shut but it looks we are coming to a conclusion soon...

Yeeessssssssssssssssss!, iI is not that I dislike Mack, even though he is of dubious character, it is just that I find his chats with John a bit far fetched. When John fired that arrow he meant to kill Mack, and when he brought the rock down on his foot, that made no sense. All this talking and saying he is not a bad guy is just getting tedious. I think he is hoping that Mack gets an infection and dies so that does not have to do the deed. He cannot afford to let him go.So, get on with it man, kill him.

Does this make me a bad man (don't answer that).

[ccahill2]

This show was so unpleasant. I had to FF through all the suffering. I don't need to see such horrible images and begging for ones life in what I call entertainment.

[Son of Cain]

The axeman cometh.

[katie hunter]

The dramatic music was annoying but not as annoying as Paddy.

Is Mack a goner now?

[Son of Cain]

The dramatic music was annoying but not as annoying as Paddy.

Is Mack a goner now?

I doubt it, he has got nine lives.

[ccahill2]

Paddy urked me with his ditziness yesterday, but Liam was urking me today, with his trying to talk Paddy out of speaking up when we know a serial killer is on the loose.

[Son of Cain]

Paddy urked me with his ditziness yesterday, but Liam was urking me today, with his trying to talk Paddy out of speaking up when we know a serial killer is on the loose.

We might know there is a serial killer on the loose, but neither Paddy or Liam do. Without guaranteed confidentiality no one would confide in helplines.

[ccahill2]

Tracy showed more sense today than anyone else did.

[Son of Cain]

I hate when they leave us with a cliff hanger at the end of an episode, to find the next episode has moved on, with no mention of what happened next. I doubt Mack was beheaded at the roadside, so I guess he is back in the bomb shelter. No doubt we will learn in time.

[Son of Cain]

Let's hope that Aaron landed on top of John, that way he might survive, though it would not bother me if they are both dead.

One thing left about this story that does not make sense. Why would anyone go to the trouble of making that "old war shelter"? I would not have thought dropping bombs on the woods would have been a priority for the Germans.

[lizann]

anyone else think first that robert was a mirage, just John's imagination

[Son of Cain]

Soaps used to bring channels their biggest audiences, now they are regulurly shunted about the schedules, whenever there is a sporting fixture on. We have had to wait an extra day to find out the fate of John and Aaron, and in Corrie we have to wait until Friday to find out where Becky suddenly popped up from. Tonight Corrie has been replaced by the National TV Awards, I have no interest in watching a bunch of celebrities telling each other how great they are, and pretending not to be upset when they do not win their categories.

[Perdita]

Soaps used to bring channels their biggest audiences, now they are regulurly shunted about the schedules, whenever there is a sporting fixture on. We have had to wait an extra day to find out the fate of John and Aaron, and in Corrie we have to wait until Friday to find out where Becky suddenly popped up from. Tonight Corrie has been replaced by the National TV Awards, I have no interest in watching a bunch of celebrities telling each other how great they are, and pretending not to be upset when they do not win their categories.

I so agree, I was a volunteer for 30+ years, yes, I had a couple of certificates and button badge in recognition but never did my work for those awards.. however, I can imagine that it is hard work for a lot of the presenters, it may look easy but I am sure it is hard work... I say lets be charitable once a year and let all the celebrities have a night out... just my opinion.. :)

[Snagglepus]

So, Robert calls 999 and asks for an ambulance and they turn up to the right place without him telling them where. Amazing.

[lizann]

So, Robert calls 999 and asks for an ambulance and they turn up to the right place without him telling them where. Amazing.

they had John's previous 999 call

they really think robert would hurt aaron , where is cain , tracy and him might listen about nate

[Son of Cain]

So, Robert calls 999 and asks for an ambulance and they turn up to the right place without him telling them where. Amazing.

How did they get Aaron and John from the bottom of the cliff, it did not look like there was a proper path.

[Son of Cain]

I so agree, I was a volunteer for 30+ years, yes, I had a couple of certificates and button badge in recognition but never did my work for those awards.. however, I can imagine that it is hard work for a lot of the presenters, it may look easy but I am sure it is hard work... I say lets be charitable once a year and let all the celebrities have a night out... just my opinion.. :)

I know presenting is harder than it looks, in the past I have known a few presenters for cycle racing and it takes a real skill to fill in when nothing much is happening. They can have as many nights out and celebrations as they like, I would just prefer if it did not interfere with the Soap's. They could be shown on iplayer or itvX. Hope you wear your badge with pride.

[Perdita]

I know presenting is harder than it looks, in the past I have known a few presenters for cycle racing and it takes a real skill to fill in when nothing much is happening. They can have as many nights out and celebrations as they like, I would just prefer if it did not interfere with the Soap's. They could be shown on iplayer or itvX. Hope you wear your badge with pride.

All to do with money... all the companies that get advertised in the commercial breaks will have to cough up extra, I am sure, the same with sporting events that always spoil our soap viewing. :angry:

[Son of Cain]

If Mack managed to detatch the Chain from the wall, why is he not trying to do so again?

[ccahill2]

I felt so bad for Robert today and although I like the police officers on this show, they were really frustrating me today. They weren't listening. To be safe, why not just comb the location for Mack? John was such a sleeze with that video.

I'm annoyed at Chas, and she's going to eat her words when the truth comes to light, but I'm really annoyed at Vic.They'll both get theirs when Chas learned who drugged her and Vic learns who caused her son's illness - that is, if the slurry incident ever comes to light.

[lizann]

is aidan in that hospital too, two of john's lovers in comas

[Perdita]

If Mack managed to detatch the Chain from the wall, why is he not trying to do so again?

Maybe physically no longer got the strength... has he eaten or had any drink since his escape?

[Son of Cain]

Maybe physically no longer got the strength... has he eaten or had any drink since his escape?

They say desperation gives you strength. He must of had something to drink or he would be dead by now.

[Snagglepus]

If Mack managed to detatch the Chain from the wall, why is he not trying to do so again?

He had a tool of some sort that John dropped. It looked like he had scraped the mortar from around the brick and removed it still attached to the chain.

[Perdita]

He had a tool of some sort that John dropped. It looked like he had scraped the mortar from around the brick and removed it still attached to the chain.

He had a flick knife, I think. John obviously must have had all the cement and water to re-attach the chain to the wall before having it out with Aaron :wall:

[Son of Cain]

He had a tool of some sort that John dropped. It looked like he had scraped the mortar from around the brick and removed it still attached to the chain.


He had a flick knife, I think. John obviously must have had all the cement and water to re-attach the chain to the wall before having it out with Aaron :wall:
Mack had a Swiss army knife which I presume John took back. Unless John used quick drying cement Mack should have been able to pull the brick out of the wall. Apart from that, there is a shelf by his bed with things on it, perhaps suitable to use. Also there is a bench with more stuff and a tool box which had at least a screwdriver in it. If he cannot reach it, there is a rope or a hosepipe, which looks like it is within reach, that could be use to lasso it. Looks to me like there is the means to escape if he puts his mind to it.

[Son of Cain]

I felt so bad for Robert today and although I like the police officers on this show, they were really frustrating me today. They weren't listening. To be safe, why not just comb the location for Mack? John was such a sleeze with that video.

I'm annoyed at Chas, and she's going to eat her words when the truth comes to light, but I'm really annoyed at Vic.They'll both get theirs when Chas learned who drugged her and Vic learns who caused her son's illness - that is, if the slurry incident ever comes to light.

If the police interviewed Charity about Mack's whereabouts, and she showed them her phone, they could trace the location of Mack's message, and find out it came from the cottage near the cliff, which surely must arouse suspicions.

[Perdita]

If the police interviewed Charity about Mack's whereabouts, and she showed them her phone, they could trace the location of Mack's message, and find out it came from the cottage near the cliff, which surely must arouse suspicions.

Mack has not been reported as missing, there currently is no reason for them to look for Mack, John has been very thorough in covering his tracks, only Robert is telling the police and they are not listening.

[Son of Cain]

Mack has not been reported as missing, there currently is no reason for them to look for Mack, John has been very thorough in covering his tracks, only Robert is telling the police and they are not listening.

In order to investigate Robert properly they should be listening. The most obvious way to do this, would be to talk to Charity.

[lizann]

should the police be searching around the cottage, the lands and cliff for evidence as it is the scene of crime, aaron had macks phone

[lizann]

moira can't cut vic and robert out after taking their money as partners investors , hopefully matty can make them see sense and vinny should go to the police as the blackmail will never end

[thestud2k7]

I thought Moria needed the cash to stay a float but now she can pay Victoria back easy?

Are work experance kids writing emmerdale

[Son of Cain]

I thought Moria needed the cash to stay a float but now she can pay Victoria back easy?

Are work experance kids writing emmerdale

It was weeks ago when Moira said she needed the money to stay afloat, things that happen in Soaps are soon forgotten.

Did Victoria have a contract with Moira? Moral of the story, never go into business with family.

[Perdita]

I thought Moria needed the cash to stay a float but now she can pay Victoria back easy?

Are work experance kids writing emmerdale

Moira said she would pay her back as soon as she can.. did not say it will be soon ..
Yes, they are, they also write for Corrie... cannot comment on other soaps as I do not watch them

[Perdita]

It was weeks ago when Moira said she needed the money to stay afloat, things that happen in Soaps are soon forgotten.

Did Victoria have a contract with Moira? Moral of the story, never go into business with family.

Yes

[Son of Cain]

Yes

Then surely Moira is in Breach of Contract? If the contract is broken, would Victoria have the right to say when she wants her money back, not when it suits Moria. Think Moira has been a bit hasty.

[Son of Cain]

I felt so bad for Robert today and although I like the police officers on this show, they were really frustrating me today. They weren't listening. To be safe, why not just comb the location for Mack? John was such a sleeze with that video.

I'm annoyed at Chas, and she's going to eat her words when the truth comes to light, but I'm really annoyed at Vic.They'll both get theirs when Chas learned who drugged her and Vic learns who caused her son's illness - that is, if the slurry incident ever comes to light.

Should I book the Community Hall for the Humble Pie Party, there will quite a few wanting a serving.
Unless John chooses to admit to the slurry incident, I see no reason why the truth should ever come to light.

[ccahill2]

You would think that at minimum, that someone would be working with the police to see where Mac's phone was pinging from. I really hope that Tracy talks to the police about the cooincidence with Mac's texts vs Nate's.

[Perdita]

You would think that at minimum, that someone would be working with the police to see where Mac's phone was pinging from. I really hope that Tracy talks to the police about the cooincidence with Mac's texts vs Nate's.

Why would they? Everyone believes he went to London and has no intention to return... once they read John and Aaron's phone messages it might make them interested..

[lizann]

I felt so bad for Robert today and although I like the police officers on this show, they were really frustrating me today. They weren't listening. To be safe, why not just comb the location for Mack? John was such a sleeze with that video.

I'm annoyed at Chas, and she's going to eat her words when the truth comes to light, but I'm really annoyed at Vic.They'll both get theirs when Chas learned who drugged her and Vic learns who caused her son's illness - that is, if the slurry incident ever comes to light.

did john admit the slurry incident to mack or aaron or getting cain drunk also?

[Son of Cain]

You would think that at minimum, that someone would be working with the police to see where Mac's phone was pinging from. I really hope that Tracy talks to the police about the cooincidence with Mac's texts vs Nate's.


Why would they? Everyone believes he went to London and has no intention to return... once they read John and Aaron's phone messages it might make them interested..

When the police are investigating a crime and preparing a case for the CPS not only do they have to prove what has happened, but have to prove what has NOT happened. Robert has accused John of harming Mack, so at the very least they should try to find out where Mack is and if he has come to has or has not come to any harm. Which means they should talk to Charity to find out where he is, when hopefully she would tell them about Mack's message, or to be more correct John's fake message.

[lizann]

no thomas and dotty at the wedding or nico's kids

[Son of Cain]

John walking about the hospital as if nothing had happened. I've known people do more damage tripping over a broken paving slab. Here he is with nothing but a elastoplast on his head. Did he really need a cannula in his hand?

[Son of Cain]

Why was Cain going to Dundee?

[Son of Cain]

SuperMack seems indestructible, I reckon the only thing that could finish him off, is Krytonite.

[lizann]

Why was Cain going to Dundee?

part pick up or motor pick up?

[katie hunter]

Hotten General truly is a magical place. It must have taken the Doctors 10 minutes tops to diagnose Mack.

[lizann]

Hotten General truly is a magical place. It must have taken the Doctors 10 minutes tops to diagnose Mack.

no mention of the arrow in his chest, the serious injury

too much done quick or off screen , let down and did Aaron ask about robert

[Son of Cain]

no mention of the arrow in his chest, the serious injury

too much done quick or off screen , let down and did Aaron ask about robert

Surely the arrow wound has healed by now. He is in Hotten Gereral.

[johntrevor]

Surely the arrow wound has healed by now. He is in Hotten Gereral.

Of course it has, I believe he's going for the power lifting championship next week.

[Perdita]

Well, having had sleepless nights over Mack and Aaron... it all came to a rather boring end.. John manages to leave hospital with the help of Cain .... suddenly all the victims are able to speak clearly, remember clearly.. and John still manages to lurk around in the village with hundreds of police looking for him.. sigh

[Son of Cain]

Well, having had sleepless nights over Mack and Aaron... it all came to a rather boring end.. John manages to leave hospital with the help of Cain .... suddenly all the victims are able to speak clearly, remember clearly.. and John still manages to lurk around in the village with hundreds of police looking for him.. sigh

How long was SuperMack in the bunker since Aaron and John went cliff diving, it must have been aat least several days, and yet here he is still surviving. Did John keep the padlock key under his pillow all the time he was in hospital.

[lizann]

Surely the arrow wound has healed by now. He is in Hotten Gereral.

yes the miracle hospital

[Perdita]

How long was SuperMack in the bunker since Aaron and John went cliff diving, it must have been aat least several days, and yet here he is still surviving. Did John keep the padlock key under his pillow all the time he was in hospital.

I think some of the time sequences are not realistic... they sometimes pack a lot of stuff into one episode... I think Mack was left with the syringe maybe just 1 day...

[Son of Cain]

I think some of the time sequences are not realistic... they sometimes pack a lot of stuff into one episode... I think Mack was left with the syringe maybe just 1 day...

That would mean that John recovered enough to discharge himself in a day.

[lizann]

mack said he was in the bunker for weeks and now he has empathy i think for john who just lurks around the village unnoticed despite loads of police

ray and april was quite funny

[katie hunter]

Why is Chas so angry with Robert? She should be apologising.

Mack must be on a lot of drugs the way he spoke about John.

John lurking around the village instead of being miles away is just ridiculous.

[lizann]

Why is Chas so angry with Robert? She should be apologising.

Mack must be on a lot of drugs the way he spoke about John.

John lurking around the village instead of being miles away is just ridiculous.

stockholm syndrome for mack with john?

[Perdita]

Why is Chas so angry with Robert? She should be apologising.

Mack must be on a lot of drugs the way he spoke about John.

John lurking around the village instead of being miles away is just ridiculous.

Because if Robert had not returned to Emmerdale and interfered with Aaron and John's relationship Aaron would not have got hurt...

[lizann]

Because if Robert had not returned to Emmerdale and interfered with Aaron and John's relationship Aaron would not have got hurt...

but john was drugging chas before robert returned, hero complex, another fatality like nate accident could have happened

[Perdita]

but john was drugging chas before robert returned, hero complex, another fatality like nate accident could have happened

Chas does not know that yet, all the other details will become clear in a while..

[lizann]

Chas does not know that yet, all the other details will become clear in a while..

i think she does but was told off screen as per mack's monologue which showed chas, cain and jacob being saved by john

[Snagglepus]

Has John ever admitted to releasing the slurry on Moira's farm?
If he did, would Moira still have to pay the fine?

[Perdita]

Has John ever admitted to releasing the slurry on Moira's farm?
If he did, would Moira still have to pay the fine?

Not to my knowledge. I don`t know what the rules and regulations for slurry tanks is, should there have been a lock on it so tampering with it is not possible? She might still get fined but maybe a lesser fine???

[lizann]

Has John ever admitted to releasing the slurry on Moira's farm?
If he did, would Moira still have to pay the fine?
i assume she paid with vic's invested partnership money already and as john was a farm employee still liable, did he confess this also to mack and aaron, unburdening himself, i wonder if mack was told about anthony, john confessing talking to anyone who would listen, he enjoyed

[Son of Cain]

Has John ever admitted to releasing the slurry on Moira's farm?
If he did, would Moira still have to pay the fine?

She may get a reduced fine if it was known that John deliberately released the slurry, but I believe that Moira still had a "Duty of Care" to keep the outlet valves locked so that
they could not be opened. So Moira would still be partially to blame for the contamination.
I find it hard to believe that Moira would not know this, and that she would not comply with the regulations. Still if the story calls for it, we should not question the writing.

[lizann]

no sign of any depot workers like kerry and billy when John lurks about

[Son of Cain]

How will John manage in France, how will he get a job in France without any papers and relevant qualifications there? You cannot pick grapes forever.

[Perdita]

How will John manage in France, how will he get a job in France without any papers and relevant qualifications there? You cannot pick grapes forever.

Join the Foreign Legion?

[Son of Cain]

They are really dragging out this story with John, enough, will it never end? If John is dead I will never drink beer again.

[lizann]

They are really dragging out this story with John, enough, will it never end? If John is dead I will never drink beer again.

i don't think cain is a killer

good scenes with aaron and ruby

[Perdita]

They are really dragging out this story with John, enough, will it never end? If John is dead I will never drink beer again.

I am sure you will have another hangover before long :lol:

[thestud2k7]

When’s the big October week again? I am convinced they will wrap it up then

[Son of Cain]

I am sure you will have another hangover before long :lol:

I rarely drink enough to get a hangover nowadays, but I will still stocking up when I next visit the supermarket. I do not foresee any likelihood than I will have to become teetotal.

[Perdita]

When’s the big October week again? I am convinced they will wrap it up then

Yeah, that is what I think too although apparently they no longer have the Big Autumn week but I guess they will drag it out for another couple of weeks :wall:

[Son of Cain]

Cheers! - just enjoying a Bud.

[Son of Cain]

If I ever want to smuggle anything out of the country, please remind me to go to go to Hull to do it. What is the point of having a dog if you do not put it into the van.

[katie hunter]

Mack has healed up nicely. No sign of a broken shoulder and his 'shattered ankle' doesn't even require a moon boot. Those Doctors really are marvellous.

The customs officers were rubbish. Does John still have the gun?

[lizann]

Mack has healed up nicely. No sign of a broken shoulder and his 'shattered ankle' doesn't even require a moon boot. Those Doctors really are marvellous.

The customs officers were rubbish. Does John still have the gun?

at least Ross mentioned the arrow in the chest

[Son of Cain]

Mack has healed up nicely. No sign of a broken shoulder and his 'shattered ankle' doesn't even require a moon boot. Those Doctors really are marvellous.

The customs officers were rubbish. [B]Does John still have the gun?[B]

John and SuperMack healed almost overnight, why is the magic not working on Aaron?

Caleb put the gun in Cain's car before they left.

[Son of Cain]

I suppose we must assume that the Border Control in Rotterdam is as useless as it is in Hull.

[lizann]

so did caleb really see anthony or another decayed body

Laurel fancying Ray and no one finds April around him creepy

[Perdita]

so did caleb really see anthony or another decayed body

Laurel fancying Ray and no one finds April around him creepy

Caleb would not have been able to identify Anthony unless he saw a watch or ring..

[Son of Cain]

so did caleb really see anthony or another decayed body

Laurel fancying Ray and no one finds April around him creepy

I am amazed that no matter how detailed John's direction to the grave were, that Caleb found it first time. Let's hope they do not decide to dig it up again and move it somewhere else.

Nicola was quick enough to suspect Anthony of grooming Angelica.

[Son of Cain]

I have a terrible feeling we have not seen the last of John. I think he will return.

[johntrevor]

I have a terrible feeling we have not seen the last of John. I think he will return.

Yes me too

[Perdita]

I am amazed that no matter how detailed John's direction to the grave were, that Caleb found it first time. Let's hope they do not decide to dig it up again and move it somewhere else.

Nicola was quick enough to suspect Anthony of grooming Angelica.

After she found out what Anthony had done to Ruby though, she was quite happy at first to let Anthony tutor her and Arthur for a short while

[Son of Cain]

When did Gabby break a finger?

How did Vinny imagine he could keep his court appearance secret, do they not have local newspapers and radio stations in Emmerdale, never mind the internet.

[Perdita]

When did Gabby break a finger?

How did Vinny imagine he could keep his court appearance secret, do they not have local newspapers and radio stations in Emmerdale, never mind the internet.

I missed that bit too but these days I do not mind missing quite a bit....

[johntrevor]

When did Gabby break a finger?

How did Vinny imagine he could keep his court appearance secret, do they not have local newspapers and radio stations in Emmerdale, never mind the internet.

I think it's to do with the accident she had when she crashed her car while fainting due to dieting

[Perdita]

I think it's to do with the accident she had when she crashed her car while fainting due to dieting

I remember that but that was a while ago... I do not recall her having bandaged finger when she got married...:hmm:

[Snagglepus]

Jimmy or Nichola mentioned Angel last night, I have not seen her for a while, where is she?

[Son of Cain]

I think it's to do with the accident she had when she crashed her car while fainting due to dieting

Answering my own question here. Looking back she told Laurel when she came back from holiday it was a snorkeling accident. I only noticed the bandage yesterday. Maybe something that happened in real life and they just worked it into the story.

[Son of Cain]

I remember that but that was a while ago... I do not recall her having bandaged finger when she got married...:hmm:

Google tells me it takes 6 to 8 weeks for a broken finger to heal, so we can see how long she has the bandage for. If it is a real life injury we can see if she heals as fast as she would do if treated by Hotten General.

[lizann]

Jimmy or Nichola mentioned Angel last night, I have not seen her for a while, where is she?

no of those kids were at the wedding and are any in school with april

[katie hunter]

Celia must be rolling in it yet she only has one set of clothes.

Gabby had the perfect opportunity to fess up. I wonder if we are heading for a pregnancy storyline.

[Son of Cain]

Celia must be rolling in it yet she only has one set of clothes.

Gabby had the perfect opportunity to fess up. I wonder if we are heading for a pregnancy storyline.

Or many sets of identical clothes. She always looks as if she is ready to go off on safari at a moments notice.

[ccahill2]

Woah! I didn't see that one coming! Not the part with Celia and April and not the part with Ray and Celia. I love when I can watch a show and be surprised. Great twist.

Too bad. I was enjoying Celia and Moira's friendship.

[Son of Cain]

What was that cringeworthy scene with the Belgian bun? Was it humour? I really like a Belgian bun, had one yesterday, but I have never had the same thought as Bob.

[Son of Cain]

Woah! I didn't see that one coming! Not the part with Celia and April and not the part with Ray and Celia. I love when I can watch a show and be surprised. Great twist.

Too bad. I was enjoying Celia and Moira's friendship.

I seem to remember someone on here predicting this very idea a while ago. Well seen.

[Snagglepus]

We haven't seen her working on her own farm, what does she do, does she do it single handed.
She did not look comfortable when Moira was telling her about Holly, and her dislike of drugs.
Did she say she had a son? Is it Ray? I don't think I have seen them together.
I guessed there was a connection.

[Perdita]

I seem to remember someone on here predicting this very idea a while ago. Well seen.

Yes, some of us were speculating about a connection between her and Ray... and that she is the big drug boss...

[Perdita]

What was that cringeworthy scene with the Belgian bun? Was it humour? I really like a Belgian bun, had one yesterday, but I have never had the same thought as Bob.

I did not get that either

[thestud2k7]

Did Celia call ray son? Or did I misear

[Perdita]

Did Celia call ray son? Or did I misear

Yes, she adopted him

[lizann]

she took him from the streets

[ccahill2]

she took him from the streets

Yes, I haven't yet seen the show that airs in the UK early morning, but I was wondering whether the term Mom was real or a metaphor for the woman who picked him off the streets to have him work for her, similar to Fagan and the Artful Dodger in the Oliver Twist book.

[Perdita]

Yes, I haven't yet seen the show that airs in the UK early morning, but I was wondering whether the term Mom was real or a metaphor for the woman who picked him off the streets to have him work for her, similar to Fagan and the Artful Dodger in the Oliver Twist book.

She adopted him which is why he called her mum and she called him son

[lizann]

Yes, I haven't yet seen the show that airs in the UK early morning, but I was wondering whether the term Mom was real or a metaphor for the woman who picked him off the streets to have him work for her, similar to Fagan and the Artful Dodger in the Oliver Twist book.

i thought yes mam as in respect for a lady in authority mam , like you'd hear in older times

[lizann]

can april live on her own at her age , she will give marlon another stroke with her behaviour

[Perdita]

can april live on her own at her age , she will give marlon another stroke with her behaviour

She is 16, so yes, she can but the parents still have a responsibility to ensure she is safe..

[lizann]

charity got well up fast on computers to do up fake paternity tests, ryan must be a great teacher

[Son of Cain]

charity got well up fast on computers to do up fake paternity tests, ryan must be a great teacher

I do not think it is that difficult, scan the original into your computer, delete the bits you want to remove, find a font the same style and size as the original and type in the information that you want Ross to see.

[ccahill2]

It's hard to believe that I'd ever be Team Dawn, but with the way Nicola was handling things, I was fully backing Dawn. I was so happy to see Billy again - I much preferred him over her, and I'm glad that she thought to call him in to alert him to what happened to Clemmie. Joe was the only one who didn't belong at that table. I can't forget that he's the reason three people died and the fourth had an organ illegally harvested. I wouldn't want him in my house or near my children.

[lizann]

It's hard to believe that I'd ever be Team Dawn, but with the way Nicola was handling things, I was fully backing Dawn. I was so happy to see Billy again - I much preferred him over her, and I'm glad that she thought to call him in to alert him to what happened to Clemmie. Joe was the only one who didn't belong at that table. I can't forget that he's the reason three people died and the fourth had an organ illegally harvested. I wouldn't want him in my house or near my children.

what joe did is forgot about same as dawn pushing him out the window

[Son of Cain]

It's hard to believe that I'd ever be Team Dawn, but with the way Nicola was handling things, I was fully backing Dawn. I was so happy to see Billy again - I much preferred him over her, and I'm glad that she thought to call him in to alert him to what happened to Clemmie. Joe was the only one who didn't belong at that table. I can't forget that he's the reason three people died and the fourth had an organ illegally harvested. I wouldn't want him in my house or near my children.

Was he not responsible or partly responsible for Will"s death?

[Son of Cain]

what joe did is forgot about same as dawn pushing him out the window

Forgiveness ha always been easily granted in Emmerdale.

[lizann]

Was he not responsible or partly responsible for Will"s death?

he was just going to let will die not help and dawn don't know will was working with joe and jamie to get at kim either probably something else forgot

[ccahill2]

he was just going to let will die not help and dawn don't know will was working with joe and jamie to get at kim either probably something else forgot

Yes. If Kim hadn't shouted with him, he wasn't going to call the paramedics. He looked as though he were fascinated by Will struggling as the life was going out of him. I thought him a sicko from the get go. I even questioned whether the people he called were really paramedics, at the time, because his depraved indifference was shocking.

[lizann]

of course nico makes it worse

none of those kids that young should have phones

would liam really get a text or email with serious cancer results

[lizann]

Joe's answer posh boring school, dawn should be discussing with billy not joe

[Snagglepus]

Moira must have picked Cain up on Tuesday when the footie was on.

[lizann]

why is the garage called barton and dingle


nice remembering zak and liv

[Perdita]

why is the garage called barton and dingle


nice remembering zak and liv

I vaguely remember Moira being involved but not why and how exactly

[Perdita]

Kev and Robert... just does not feel right for me.. no chemistry between them :nono:

[johntrevor]

Kev and Robert... just does not feel right for me.. no chemistry between them :nono:

You're right it seems to me to be the worst pairing in Emmerdale history

[Son of Cain]

Kev and Robert... just does not feel right for me.. no chemistry between them :nono:

Did not see must chemistry with Aaron and John or with Aaron and Robert. Wonder if using non gay actors is the problem

[Perdita]

Did not see must chemistry with Aaron and John or with Aaron and Robert. Wonder if using non gay actors is the problem

When Robert and Aaron first got together they had better chemistry in my opinion, I think that maybe the rushed relationships are to blame as we do not have time to see the relationships develop...??

[lizann]

I vaguely remember Moira being involved but not why and how exactly

was ross a co owner before, convenient mack and ross are mechanics and farm hands wherever they are now

[Perdita]

[QUOTE=lizann;1042425]was ross a co owner before, convenient mack and ross are mechanics and farm hands wherever they are now[/QUOTE
No, he worked there but not as owner

[lizann]

[QUOTE=lizann;1042425]was ross a co owner before, convenient mack and ross are mechanics and farm hands wherever they are now[/QUOTE
No, he worked there but not as owner

where does the barton name come in, Debbie's short short marriage to pete

[Snagglepus]

why is the garage called barton and dingle
In 2018, Debbie hired a man to attack Joe Tate but he accidentally threw acid in Ross' face. Ross used this information to blackmail Cain into handing over the garage to him or he would go to the police. When Cain refused he instead settled for a joint partnership, reopening it as "Barton and Dingle Automotives

[lizann]

we had this storyline with charity, there is other characters besides dingles

[ccahill2]

The scenes with April being forced into prostitution are painful to watch. That lech standing over her looked so much like Harvey Weinstein. I don't know whether that was the intent, but it's how I saw it.

I don't usually see scenes like this with actors who are minors. Typically an older actor who just looks younger plays the part. It was very disturbing.

[lizann]

so celia is rays mother, a pimp drug madam egg farmer

[Perdita]

so celia is rays mother, a pimp drug madam egg farmer

Adoptive mother...

[johntrevor]

Adoptive mother...

Yes that was pointed out before

[lizann]

how did april get back to the village from the hotel and celia conveniently greets her

[lizann]

jimmy or nico should have asked joe about the crash he caused killing 3 and kidney stealing , how are these forgot about

why has charles taken in kev

does dylan know april is being pimped out?

[Son of Cain]

jimmy or nico should have asked joe about the crash he caused killing 3 and kidney stealing , how are these forgot about

why has charles taken in kev

does dylan know april is being pimped out?

I have lost track about who knows what Joe did, do Jimmy and Nico know?

Charles is vicar, it's what vicar's do.

No, I don't think Dylan knows - yet.

[Son of Cain]

I am beginning to wonder if Celia and Ray are portraying a realistic picture of how drug dealers operate. We have seen Ray paying other teenage lads, but usually only for helping him ensnared April into working for him. Why doesn't he just use these lads to deal the drugs? Now we see Ray moving into sex trafficing pimping April to a man who buys a small amount of coke, where is the benefit to him in doing this? I am not a drug dealer, but I would imagine it is better to keep it simple, the more complicated it is, the more people involved, the greater the chance of getting caught.

[lizann]

I have lost track about who knows what Joe did, do Jimmy and Nico know?

Charles is vicar, it's what vicar's do.

No, I don't think Dylan knows - yet.

were they at Lydia's party, it was talk of the village too

[Son of Cain]

were they at Lydia's party, it was talk of the village too

Knowing how popular Joe is, do they really expect us to belive no one would have reported him? The Dingles could not because of what happened to Athony but what was to stop someone else doing so.

[lizann]

Knowing how popular Joe is, do they really expect us to belive no one would have reported him? The Dingles could not because of what happened to Athony but what was to stop someone else doing so.

he bought noah off after blackmail, kerry and jacob have given up revenge, id like to see how joe would do in prison

[Son of Cain]

he bought noah off after blackmail, kerry and jacob have given up revenge, id like to see how joe would do in prison

I still do not understand why Nico, Charles,Claudette or Liam would not spill the beans, joe does not exert any control over them, that I can see. It is highly unrealistic that a major incident in a small village, and no one talks about it.

[Son of Cain]

were they at Lydia's party, it was talk of the village too


jimmy or nico should have asked joe about the crash he caused killing 3 and kidney stealing , how are these forgot about

why has charles taken in kev

does dylan know april is being pimped out?

I have gone back and looked at Lydia's party again, when the police turned up Joe convinced them he was on a flight to the States at the time of the crash, and that he did have a kidney transplant in Chicago, so apart from the dingles the rest of the village seem to have accepted this story. So it would not be appropriate for Nico to ask about the limo crash as she does not believe he was to blame.

[Perdita]

I have gone back and looked at Lydia's party again, when the police turned up Joe convinced them he was on a flight to the States at the time of the crash, and that he did have a kidney transplant in Chicago, so apart from the dingles the rest of the village seem to have accepted this story. So it would not be appropriate for Nico to ask about the limo crash as she does not believe he was to blame.

Did the police not check up his story? He probably had a fake flight ticket but surely he should have provided paperwork from a hospital in Chicago regarding the transplant...

[johntrevor]

Did the police not check up his story? He probably had a fake flight ticket but surely he should have provided paperwork from a hospital in Chicago regarding the transplant...

Didn't his bent doctor arrange it ?

[lizann]

I have gone back and looked at Lydia's party again, when the police turned up Joe convinced them he was on a flight to the States at the time of the crash, and that he did have a kidney transplant in Chicago, so apart from the dingles the rest of the village seem to have accepted this story. So it would not be appropriate for Nico to ask about the limo crash as she does not believe he was to blame.

manpreet knows the truth but is complicit

charity outed it in the pub from what i remember but caleb and noah had to deny, backtrack

[Son of Cain]

were they at Lydia's party, it was talk of the village too


jimmy or nico should have asked joe about the crash he caused killing 3 and kidney stealing , how are these forgot about

why has charles taken in kev

does dylan know april is being pimped out?


Did the police not check up his story? He probably had a fake flight ticket but surely he should have provided paperwork from a hospital in Chicago regarding the transplant...

When the police came to the party to question Joe, he showed them a plane ticket on his phone. They seemed to accept this as proof he was not in the country when the limo crash occured. Though I think they did say they would have to verify this, if they, did I think it must have happened of camera. When people asked to see if Joe had a scar to prove whether he had a kidney transplant or not, it was Kim who said he did, but the operation had taken place in the States. I suppose Joe or his dodgy doctor must have managed to produce some dodgy paperwork to substantiate these claims, but again, I think off camera. Most people seemed to accept that Joe, while not exactly innocent, was not guilty. So apart from the Dingles and Manpreet no one in the village knows what Joe has done, and they cannot say anything.
Unless a character is leaving their sins can never fully exposed. Personally I think major characters should be exposed more often and be seen to be punished. I never used to believed that what was seen on TV affected what happens in real life, but now I am not so sure.

Not sure why the first two posts were quoted, I did not select them on this occassion. Must be a carry over from my previous post. Took three attempts to post this, first two simply disappeared suddenly, so just glad I was finally successful.

[Son of Cain]

No Sam, having a prostate test, will not in itself make any difference to needing a waz in the night. That is more likely to be the amount of beer you drink.

[lizann]

did Joe plant that illegal or one of ray and celias

[Son of Cain]

I thought it was Joe, as it seemed too much of a coincidence that they found her when he was there.

The police did not think it suspicious that Joe was there when they came to interview Caleb?

[ccahill2]

Ruby lights up my screen and I am loving her kindness to Anna. I just bet this is tying into the Ray and Celia story.

[lizann]

nico about joe's heart being harvested was funny, joe must be very guilty about causing amy suzy and leylas deaths

why is billy not involved , joe is featuring way more in this

kev will be healed in hotten miracle general in no time

[johntrevor]

kev will be healed in hotten miracle general in no time

Hope not he's a horrible character

[lizann]

john will return to heal kev

[Perdita]

john will return to heal kev

He only does that when he has caused them to be ill in the first place

[Son of Cain]

Hope not he's a horrible character

I am hard put to think of any nice characters in the village.

[Son of Cain]

I do hope we do not have to put up with nasty, angry Aaron for long. We have seen enough of that in the past.

[lizann]

vinny got roomates in lewis and ross, how long until lewis and vinny get together, will kammy move in too

[Son of Cain]

The more I see of Ray, the more I wonder why he has not already been banged up in the chokey Why did he not just keep the bag on him, he had no need to try and hide it. As for getting it back he just needs to say he dropped it and ask for it back. He seems to be over complicating every thing for no reason.

[ccahill2]

I'm feeling very sick with this story of child human trafficking and the prospect of April getting raped. I hope that new female officer overseas something and becomes a hero in this story, because the show has become very unpleasant to watch with this theme.

I'm also wondering whether I am missing everything. April keeps talking about danger to Leo. Marlon and Rhona keep talking about April and Leo. But how about Ivy? Why aren't we seeing her? Last I remember, they had custody while Gus was in prison.

[lizann]

laurel has it bad for Ray

did jai get new hair?

[lizann]

if only april would think to phone swirling or the detective who helped put away tom king

[Perdita]

if only april would think to phone swirling or the detective who helped put away tom king

Too scared about what might happen to the family if she does... :(

[Son of Cain]

Too scared about what might happen to the family if she does... :(

April is young and does not have the experience or the confidence to stand up to Celia and Ray. But in reality from what we have seen this is a small family business, which apart from a few "drama school teens" does not have any real gangstery types working in it. When Ray collected the cannabis Robert sold him did he have any henchmen with him. All in all I do not think they are making a good job of how the drugs world operates.

[Son of Cain]

They really do have to try harder with the old locked in a room together trope. When a door handle comes off in your hand, and the square connecting rod falls into the room on your side of the door, even Kerry and Jai must realise all you have to do is replace it and open the door.

[Perdita]

Poor April :crying:

[johntrevor]

I really hate the way Emmerdale has gone. It used to be an interesting story of every day farming with families battling the elements and other problems to live a decent life in the Yorkshire countryside, just getting by. Now we have no real farming, homicidal maniacs, drug mules and pimps trying to prostitute a very young girl, who looks no more than 13 or 14 years old, and a Madam talking about a cull if she doesn't do what she's told. I am getting very close to dumping Emmerdale altogether.

[katie hunter]

I really hate the way Emmerdale has gone. It used to be an interesting story of every day farming with families battling the elements and other problems to live a decent life in the Yorkshire countryside, just getting by. Now we have no real farming, homicidal maniacs, drug mules and pimps trying to prostitute a very young girl, who looks no more than 13 or 14 years old, and a Madam talking about a cull if she doesn't do what she's told. I am getting very close to dumping Emmerdale altogether.

Someone on X described Emmerdale as ugly and I agree. It's not exactly entertaining, at the moment it feels like a chore to watch.

[lizann]

no one sees celia and ray going in and out of the b&b to april

[Son of Cain]

no one sees celia and ray going in and out of the b&b to april

Surprising, as very few others ever go into the B&B, except those villagers who have either been thrown out or have left their own home. So Ray and Celia should really stand out.

[Son of Cain]

Someone on X described Emmerdale as ugly and I agree. It's not exactly entertaining, at the moment it feels like a chore to watch.

Much as I mourn the loss of the days when problems with lambing was as dramatic as it got. I would not mind the current trend if they did some decent research and wrote more realistic, believable versions of these stories rather than the am-dam efforts offered to us.

[Son of Cain]

Is Callum really dead or is Ray just using this to control April?

[lizann]

im finding kev and his scenes with suggers growing on me , kev seems a complex character

im sick of april ray and dylan

archie where has he been hiding

[alan45]

im sick of april ray and dylan



It really is a rubbish storyline.

Celia is rubbish as a supposed Crime boss. She was pretty pathetic in The Bill. As for whispering son Ray He makes a great addition to the pantomime season as a pantomime Villian. The sooner the pair of them leave the better preferably feet first. There are enough decent actors in Emmerdale playing villains

[Son of Cain]

Kev deserves to die for calling Robert "Suggers". A bit too public school. I do not particularly like Robert, but even he does not deserve to be called Suggers.

[Son of Cain]

It really is a rubbish storyline.

Celia is rubbish as a supposed Crime boss. She was pretty pathetic in The Bill. As for whispering son Ray He makes a great addition to the pantomime season as a pantomime Villian. The sooner the pair of them leave the better preferably feet first. There are enough decent actors in Emmerdale playing villains

The whole point of being a crime boss I would have thought was not to get your hands dirty, to be far enough away from the action so as not to run the risk of having your collar felt. In farming terms the mum and son duo could be compared to a croft or a small holding not a proper farm. A really crime boss would have "disappeared" April and Dylan by now rather than wait wait for the inevitable, when they cause their downfall.

[Perdita]

The whole point of being a crime boss I would have thought was not to get your hands dirty, to be far enough away from the action so as not to run the risk of having your collar felt. In farming terms the mum and son duo could be compared to a croft or a small holding not a proper farm. A really crime boss would have "disappeared" April and Dylan by now rather than wait wait for the inevitable, when they cause their downfall.

But then we are talking small time dealings... not Pablo Escobar ... I think it is enough to demonstrate how these drug dealing blackmailing situations can occur .. I hope lots are watching and taking note ..

[lizann]

pointless episode

[katie hunter]

I know Marlon is Emmerdale royalty but what a great twist it would have been if he had been killed off.

[ccahill2]

Positively speechless. All I can say is that April's acting was good.

The episodes reminded me of Belle's visions of her alternative life, another story that went on and on... and on.

[Perdita]

Positively speechless. All I can say is that April's acting was good.

The episodes reminded me of Belle's visions of her alternative life, another story that went on and on... and on.

I think that was meant to be the same format.. alternative happenings...

[Son of Cain]

I think that was meant to be the same format.. alternative happenings...

I thought it was just Belle tninking what could happen if she told Marlon what has happened to her. As I was watching I was thinking this cannot be real, as unfortunately very few major events happen in Soaps nowadays with spoilers, official or otherwise. As I had not seen any, I was waiting for the reveal rather than be surprized by it.

[Perdita]

I thought it was just Belle tninking what could happen if she told Marlon what has happened to her. As I was watching I was thinking this cannot be real, as unfortunately very few major events happen in Soaps nowadays with spoilers, official or otherwise. As I had not seen any, I was waiting for the reveal rather than be surprized by it.

April. Yes, not really a dream but playing out various endings in her mind.. I think there might be one more horrendous experience for April before somebody, maybe Ross (has been hinted on social media) will realise something is not right and do some digging and bring this storyline to an end... a happy Christmas for Marlon and family would be perfect and very much deserved after this year's events..

[Son of Cain]

April. Yes, not really a dream but playing out various endings in her mind.. I think there might be one more horrendous experience for April before somebody, maybe Ross (has been hinted on social media) will realise something is not right and do some digging and bring this storyline to an end... a happy Christmas for Marlon and family would be perfect and very much deserved after this year's events..

April, yes, what is it with me and names. Does anyone in Soaps ever have a happy Christmas.

[Perdita]

[/B]
April, yes, what is it with me and names. Does anyone in Soaps ever have a happy Christmas.

Not to start with as we must have drama but in the end usually all is good ..:angel:

[Son of Cain]

Surprize, surprize Callum is not dead, as if we did not see that coming.

[lizann]

at least april isn't a killer unless her baby is counted but that was a stillbirth

[johntrevor]

Surprize, surprize Callum is not dead, as if we did not see that coming.

Yes pretty obvious really. Lets hope she finds out, she can NOT be charged with murder in the future. I would then wish she would contact the police and bring this whole sorry story to an end. Lets have some HAPPY stories for a change.

[Son of Cain]

Yes pretty obvious really. Lets hope she finds out, she can NOT be charged with murder in the future. I would then wish she would contact the police and bring this whole sorry story to an end. Lets have some HAPPY stories for a change.

HAPPY story? We have Kev and Suggers vow renewal, to look forward to. Cannot get much more happy than that, unless your name is Aaron.

[johntrevor]

HAPPY story? We have Kev and Suggers vow renewal, to look forward to. Cannot get much more happy than that, unless your name is Aaron.

I really hope that was meant as a joke lol. Kev appears to me to be a total nutter.

[Perdita]

I really hope that was meant as a joke lol. Kev appears to me to be a total nutter.

I find him quite entertaining though... :o

[johntrevor]

I find him quite entertaining though... :o

In a masochistic sort of way you mean :hmm:

[Son of Cain]

I really hope that was meant as a joke lol. Kev appears to me to be a total nutter.

Tongue firmly in cheek.

[lizann]

I find him quite entertaining though... :o

same

[Perdita]

In a masochistic sort of way you mean :hmm:

Maybe a little :D We will all love him in a few weeks when everyone knows that he is not dying and he acts normal...:lol:

[Son of Cain]

Maybe a little :D We will all love him in a few weeks when everyone knows that he is not dying and he acts normal...:lol:

Acts "normal" - Not sure anyone in that village acts "normal".

[johntrevor]

Maybe a little :D We will all love him in a few weeks when everyone knows that he is not dying and he acts normal...:lol:

I think that is his normal, horrible character

[Perdita]

I think that is his normal, horrible character

No, all characters in soapland change.. either from nice to horrible or vice verca...

[Perdita]

Really not like this storyline at all.. I hope it will be concluded by Christmas at the latest but somehow I do not believe it will be :wall:

[Son of Cain]

Bear! - I had forgotten all about him, forgot he existed.

[lizann]

is celia selling bear like april

[ccahill2]

And here I didn't think it could get grimmer than Tom and Belle.

[lizann]

you'd think a bear a big fella wrestler could take out ray and celia or has she more soldiers

[Perdita]

you'd think a bear a big fella wrestler could take out ray and celia or has she more soldiers

He is no longer the big bear wrestler, he is now sick and frail :(

[Son of Cain]

He is no longer the big bear wrestler, he is now sick and frail :(

Was he sick and frail when he left Emmerdale to go to "Ireland". He had lost weight and looked quite fit to me. We saw Ray with a gun so maybe that is how they got him into the shed. Last we saw of him he seemed to be sleeping in his car in a field. Wondering if his involvement now was an after thought? I cannot think of how he fits into Celia's criminal empire.

[Snagglepus]

I cannot think of how he fits into Celia's criminal empire.
They are probably pimping him out.

[lizann]

Was he sick and frail when he left Emmerdale to go to "Ireland". He had lost weight and looked quite fit to me. We saw Ray with a gun so maybe that is how they got him into the shed. Last we saw of him he seemed to be sleeping in his car in a field. Wondering if his involvement now was an after thought? I cannot think of how he fits into Celia's criminal empire.

why would bear go anywhere near celia after her dog attack on paddy and tone afterward, hope we get a good explanation

[Perdita]

why would bear go anywhere near celia after her dog attack on paddy and tone afterward, hope we get a good explanation

We will get an explanation, whether it is a good one, remains to be seen

[Son of Cain]

They are probably pimping him out.

Bear - The Stud Muffin.

[Son of Cain]

He is no longer the big bear wrestler, he is now sick and frail :(

If Bear is sick and frail I struggle to think what use he would be as a modern slave.

[Perdita]

If Bear is sick and frail I struggle to think what use he would be as a modern slave.

Probably not anymore now but I think 100 days ago he was found disorientated and they offered him board and lodgings for helping on the farm.. Now frail and injured he is still at their mercy, being manipulated into whatever they want him to do. I am sure the episode where all is explained will make things a lot clearer and then we will see how it all pans out. It is too much to hope that both Celia and Ray will be found out and are gone by Christmas?

[Son of Cain]

Probably not anymore now but I think 100 days ago he was found disorientated and they offered him board and lodgings for helping on the farm.. ??

If Bear is still fit enough to work on the farm, he would be fit enough to pick up Ray and body slam him into the ground. He is being kept in alocked shed, so obviously not there of his own free will. You do not lose skills and techniques you spent years practicing. This story makes no sense, If Anya had the money Caleb gave her, why was she hanging around the village waiting for Ray to find her. Surely she does not have a connection to someone in the village? As you say, there will be an explanation, but it really does need to be a good one.

[Perdita]

If Bear is still fit enough to work on the farm, he would be fit enough to pick up Ray and body slam him into the ground. He is being kept in alocked shed, so obviously not there of his own free will. You do not lose skills and techniques you spent years practicing. This story makes no sense, If Anya had the money Caleb gave her, why was she hanging around the village waiting for Ray to find her. Surely she does not have a connection to someone in the village? As you say, there will be an explanation, but it really does need to be a good one.

At the moment Bear is confused, probably has hardly eaten and drank so he is physically not able to bodyslam a fly let alone a fit young man.. he also is not aware that he is being treated as a slave.. he has no idea who he is and where he is or what is going on..

[Son of Cain]

At the moment Bear is confused, probably has hardly eaten and drank so he is physically not able to bodyslam a fly let alone a fit young man.. he also is not aware that he is being treated as a slave.. he has no idea who he is and where he is or what is going on..

All we have seen of him is just sitting but although he does not look dynamic, I do feel we have not seen enough to judge his physical condition. He must know he is locked in a shed so he must have some clue that he is not free to leave. Since Celia and Ray seem to be away from the farm a lot, unless there is an "overseer" on the farm, he cannot be doing much work. If they just leave him to get on with work when they are not there there would be nothing to stop him leaving.

[lizann]

All we have seen of him is just sitting but although he does not look dynamic, I do feel we have not seen enough to judge his physical condition. He must know he is locked in a shed so he must have some clue that he is not free to leave. Since Celia and Ray seem to be away from the farm a lot, unless there is an "overseer" on the farm, he cannot be doing much work. If they just leave him to get on with work when they are not there there would be nothing to stop him leaving.

moira or someone would see bear working celias farm

[Perdita]

All we have seen of him is just sitting but although he does not look dynamic, I do feel we have not seen enough to judge his physical condition. He must know he is locked in a shed so he must have some clue that he is not free to leave. Since Celia and Ray seem to be away from the farm a lot, unless there is an "overseer" on the farm, he cannot be doing much work. If they just leave him to get on with work when they are not there there would be nothing to stop him leaving.

He must be doing some work, Ray said something to him some days ago, could not understand what it was though.. not sure the place is locked as there seem to be half a dozen of "slaves" in that barn now....??

[ccahill2]

Wow this show is getting too grim for me. I might be sticking with recaps for awhile and only tune in if there is an episode that is a bit lighter.

[Perdita]

Wow this show is getting too grim for me. I might be sticking with recaps for awhile and only tune in if there is an episode that is a bit lighter.

Showing what for some is reality can be very disturbing to watch, might be a while before you can watch a lighter episode ...

[Son of Cain]

He must be doing some work, Ray said something to him some days ago, could not understand what it was though.. not sure the place is locked as there seem to be half a dozen of "slaves" in that barn now....??

I must have missed an episode as Friday was the first time I remember seeing Bear and apart from Anya I have not seen any other slaves. The door was definitely locked as we saw him unlock it with a key, there was also a bolt on the outside of the door, and he locked it again when he left. Judging by the way Celia would not let Paddy inspect the chickens, I am beginning to think there is no chickens. In fact I think the farm is just a front for the drug dealing, so not sure what work would need to be done.

[Perdita]

I must have missed an episode as Friday was the first time I remember seeing Bear and apart from Anya I have not seen any other slaves. The door was definitely locked as we saw him unlock it with a key, there was also a bolt on the outside of the door, and he locked it again when he left. Judging by the way Celia would not let Paddy inspect the chickens, I am beginning to think there is no chickens. In fact I think the farm is just a front for the drug dealing, so not sure what work would need to be done.
Wait until you have seen tonight's episode...

[Son of Cain]

moira or someone would see bear working celias farm

You would think so, particularly in a village where everyone, especially Nicola, seems to know everybodys business. But I suppose it depends how far Celia's farm is from the village.

[Son of Cain]

Wait until you have seen tonight's episode...

You must be ahead of us in Spain, as you seem to have seen things I have not.

[Perdita]

You must be ahead of us in Spain, as you seem to have seen things I have not.

I watch the early screening of the episodes available on ITV X, both Emmerdale and Corrie

[lizann]

no explanation of why bear left the village and was angry before ray took him in

[lizann]

instead of you've got to pick a pocket or two, you've got stay here, oliver twist with adults

[Son of Cain]

I watch the early screening of the episodes available on ITV X, both Emmerdale and Corrie

I did not realize you could watch episodes before they were shown on terrestial TV, I thought they were only shown as catch up. I thought it was only Eastenders that showed them early.

[Perdita]

I did not realize you could watch episodes before they were shown on terrestial TV, I thought they were only shown as catch up. I thought it was only Eastenders that showed them early.

Most soaps do these days

[Perdita]

no explanation of why bear left the village and was angry before ray took him in

We saw Bear leave the village after rowing with Paddy, he was meant to go to Ireland but we did see him sleeping in a field in his car at one time.. that must have been where Ray found him and took him in..

[Perdita]

Good news on the horizon :thumbsup:

[lizann]

Good news on the horizon :thumbsup:

share please

[Perdita]

share please

Under Spoiler section Celia ;)

[ccahill2]

I can imagine this all leading back to Joe, who was connected with Celia at some point. After the illegal organ harvesting, the ordering stabbings, and being responsible for the deaths of three people and just getting away with it, I'd like to think there is some story planned that he gets his. At the time, I did wonder whether his fallout with Celia was real, and I still question whether she has a boss herself, and it's Joe.

[lizann]

I can imagine this all leading back to Joe, who was connected with Celia at some point. After the illegal organ harvesting, the ordering stabbings, and being responsible for the deaths of three people and just getting away with it, I'd like to think there is some story planned that he gets his. At the time, I did wonder whether his fallout with Celia was real, and I still question whether she has a boss herself, and it's Joe.

everything with joe seems forgotten and pointless

[Son of Cain]

I can imagine this all leading back to Joe, who was connected with Celia at some point. After the illegal organ harvesting, the ordering stabbings, and being responsible for the deaths of three people and just getting away with it, I'd like to think there is some story planned that he gets his. At the time, I did wonder whether his fallout with Celia was real, and I still question whether she has a boss herself, and it's Joe.

I hope not, this story is complicated enough without bringing Joe into it. I am having a hard time following it, Joe would make it impossible.

[Son of Cain]

Celia and Ray must be held up as shining examples of how enterprising people can set up small businesses. Not content to just deal in drugs they also have modern slavery and a pimping businesses. I am surprized that Celia can find the time to stroll about with that stick over her shoulder, and Ray has time to woo Laurel.

[Son of Cain]

everything with joe seems forgotten and pointless

At times they are turning soaps, which are on going dramas, into those types of drama series where once a story is told, it is over, forgotten, and has no bearing on future stories. The amount of forgiveness and forgetfulness involving Joe would never happen in the real world.

[lizann]

bear could barely stand and move and next was back up, out working, you'd think he would have knocked out Ray, it looked only celia and Ray at the farm overseeing the chickens and turkeys