Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[Son of Cain]

Thanks for that. Actually that's a lot like what an American soap that I watch also does. I just didn't consider it with a child.

Teenage characters often appear less or disappear at an age when they may have to concentrate on their school exams. Also they are sometimes replaced by older actors, who can still play a teenager if there is a more adult storyline coming up. Which might be what will happen with Rebecca Bakes who plays Angelica.

[Son of Cain]

Posted in wrong placed.

[lizann]

tom talks to liam about "unstable" belle

[Dennis tanner]

Teenage characters often appear less or disappear at an age when they may have to concentrate on their school exams. Also they are sometimes replaced by older actors, who can still play a teenager if there is a more adult storyline coming up. Which might be what will happen with Rebecca Bakes who plays Angelica.

I hope not. She should NOT be in The Girl Chokey

[Son of Cain]

Not sure what Tom is hoping to achieve by telling Dr Liam that Belle has anger issues. If Liam somehow brings the question up with Belle he will realize it is not true. I get that Tom went to see Liam to make Belle think he is seeking help for himself but he would need to be making regular visits to Liam or a councillor to continue to convince Belle.

[lizann]

Not sure what Tom is hoping to achieve by telling Dr Liam that Belle has anger issues. If Liam somehow brings the question up with Belle he will realize it is not true. I get that Tom went to see Liam to make Belle think he is seeking help for himself but he would need to be making regular visits to Liam or a councillor to continue to convince Belle.

he wants to paint belle as the one with issues, play up her past mental health struggles, claim she abuses him

[Snagglepus]

How come Nikki is still in Hotten General? It's been nearly a week, he should be out and back at work by now.

[Son of Cain]

he wants to paint belle as the one with issues, play up her past mental health struggles, claim she abuses him

Yes, but Liam simply take his word for it without speaking to Belle. I think Tom is taking a risk with this lie.

[Dennis tanner]

Yes, but Liam simply take his word for it without speaking to Belle. I think Tom is taking a risk with this lie.

He has taken a risk with several of his lies but has got away with it so far.

Doctor Liam can only have about 100 patients so he needs to take his job more seriously

[Perdita]

Yes, but Liam simply take his word for it without speaking to Belle. I think Tom is taking a risk with this lie.

He cannot speak to Belle without breaking patient confidentiality if he was to approach her regarding being controlling..

[Son of Cain]

He cannot speak to Belle without breaking patient confidentiality if he was to approach her regarding being controlling..

It is a small village where residents seem to come into contact with each other daily, so I quite sure he could do some gentle investigation without being too obvious. Presumably he has urged Tom to get her to come and see him, and when she does not he may become -suspicious. Did Belle not see Manpreet recently. She also saw her mental health team about getting pregnant, so that should raise some alarm bells, if she is as bad as Tom says. I still think Tom is taking a risk with his strategy.

[johntrevor]

How come Nikki is still in Hotten General? It's been nearly a week, he should be out and back at work by now.

Yes they must have got rid of all the genius doctors, that could fix life threatening incidents in a couple of days.

[Son of Cain]

Good to see Charles getting his priorities right, Ethan lying bruised and bloodied in the street, but Charles wanting to know if he saw the car. Dialogue was terrible.

[lizann]

Good to see Charles getting his priorities right, Ethan lying bruised and bloodied in the street, but Charles wanting to know if he saw the car. Dialogue was terrible.

why an ambulance and police wasn't called straight away is unbelievable

again we don't see ruby run down ethan

for 10000th episode that was pretty crap

[ccahill2]

Well, that was unbelievable. The first to find him administers first aid but not calling an ambulance, and he hobbles away. He could have been bleeding out internally but as long as she fixed his boo-boo, she feels her job is done?

[Dennis tanner]

Well, that was unbelievable. The first to find him administers first aid but not calling an ambulance, and he hobbles away. He could have been bleeding out internally but as long as she fixed his boo-boo, she feels her job is done?

They sometimes go to A&E with something as little as hurt feelings

[Son of Cain]

They sometimes go to A&E with something as little as hurt feelings

This must explain why A & Es are so busy.

[Son of Cain]

again we don't see ruby run down ethan

for 10000th episode that was pretty crap

Just as well we did not see Ruby run down Ethan as they did usually do these scenes so badly. We did not see the crash where Nicky was injured either. If that was the same stretch of road where Heath died, I suspect that there must be some strange magnetic field or supernatural power at play there. The road seems fairly straight and Ethan was not that drunk so I do not understand what caused the crash. I car ended up quite far into the wooded area but did not seem to hit a tree head on, so hard to understand how Nicky ended up so badly hurt, was it whiplash or supernatural powers.
Ethan did not deliberately cause the crash, and while I understand Ruby and Caleb's grief, it does not justify deliberately running him down. I hope this is not going to be another crime that goes unpunished.

I remember another character, cannot remember who, while on the run evading capture, stepped out onto the road and was hit by a car that came out of nowhere, killing him I think. Was it another character that hit him or just a random driver?

[Son of Cain]

How come Nikki is still in Hotten General? It's been nearly a week, he should be out and back at work by now.

Pity Chloe, the cliff diver, is not about now, a blood transfusion with some of her magic blood would have him up and back at work in no time.

[lizann]

Pity Chloe, the cliff diver, is not about now, a blood transfusion with some of her magic blood would have him up and back at work in no time.

or from david miracle recovery from shot gun wound

[Perdita]

Just as well we did not see Ruby run down Ethan as they did usually do these scenes so badly. We did not see the crash where Nicky was injured either. If that was the same stretch of road where Heath died, I suspect that there must be some strange magnetic field or supernatural power at play there. The road seems fairly straight and Ethan was not that drunk so I do not understand what caused the crash. I car ended up quite far into the wooded area but did not seem to hit a tree head on, so hard to understand how Nicky ended up so badly hurt, was it whiplash or supernatural powers.
Ethan did not deliberately cause the crash, and while I understand Ruby and Caleb's grief, it does not justify deliberately running him down. I hope this is not going to be another crime that goes unpunished.

I remember another character, cannot remember who, while on the run evading capture, stepped out onto the road and was hit by a car that came out of nowhere, killing him I think. Was it another character that hit him or just a random driver?

Tess Harris (Paddy's bit on the side then) was killed by Kirin Kotecha (father of Johnny, Vanessa's son) who then fled the village...he returned and someone (cannot remember who) convinced him to hand himself in to the police and he got a prison sentence.

[lizann]

is the old lady related to ella, her grandmother? did ella provide any references for her job with manpreet and liam

[Dennis tanner]

is the old lady related to ella, her grandmother? did ella provide any references for her job with manpreet and liam

Liam thought she was pretty

[johntrevor]

Tess Harris (Paddy's bit on the side then) was killed by Kirin Kotecha (father of Johnny, Vanessa's son) who then fled the village...he returned and someone (cannot remember who) convinced him to hand himself in to the police and he got a prison sentence.

I think it was Charity who persauded Kirin to hand himself in

[Perdita]

I think it was Charity who persauded Kirin to hand himself in

I think you are right.. this was a few years ago and to be honest, never had much interest in this storyline ... sorry

[Son of Cain]

I remember another character, cannot remember who, while on the run evading capture, stepped out onto the road and was hit by a car that came out of nowhere, killing him I think. Was it another character that hit him or just a random driver?

I have just remember the incident I was thinking of, it was Alex who was run over by Billy. But he was not killed. I think Charles knew Billy did it.

[lizann]

I have just remember the incident I was thinking of, it was Alex who was run over by Billy. But he was not killed. I think Charles knew Billy did it.

yes charles got unvicar tough threatening alex

[lizann]

why harm piper, does tom think belle will sign herself out because piper is sick caused by tom

belle needs to open up fully of how tom behaves, and abuses her

ruby working with rose, will ethan die before telling dawn?

[Dennis tanner]

why harm piper, does tom think belle will sign herself out because piper is sick caused by tom

belle needs to open up fully of how tom behaves, and abuses her

But Belle thinks it's all her fault.

[Perdita]

So a young man who was kept in a coma because of pressure on his brain leaves hospital and the first place he goes to is the pub??

[johntrevor]

So a young man who was kept in a coma because of pressure on his brain leaves hospital and the first place he goes to is the pub??

Yes but he was released from the world leading hospital Hotten General where miracles happen daily, so he will be perfectly fit again now.

[Son of Cain]

So a young man who was kept in a coma because of pressure on his brain leaves hospital and the first place he goes to is the pub??

By Emmerdale standards this proves he has suffered no brain damage.

[ccahill2]

By Emmerdale standards this proves he has suffered no brain damage.

Haha. Yes. Proof positive!

[Snagglepus]

Has Rose planted something on Kim?

[lizann]

ethan killed off as he gets interesting knowing about ruby and rose but will his killer ruby escape the law and charles

[ccahill2]

Tom. is. a. sociopath.

Ruby is nuts.

And yet I still find Ruby more interesting than Tom, because I see conflict in her, although for the wrong reasons. Tom is just a one-note horror. Next, we'll see him in the doorway with an ax a la Jack Nicholson.

And Ethan? If the doctor looked at his body holistically instead of his exterior wounds, he might be alive today. I don't see this boding well for her.

[Dennis tanner]

ethan killed off as he gets interesting knowing about ruby and rose but will his killer ruby escape the law and charles

Charles may ban her from the church

[Son of Cain]

ethan killed off as he gets interesting knowing about ruby and rose but will his killer ruby escape the law and charles

Well, the doctors failed to work their magic this time.

[lizann]

ethan was involved in a crash and then ran down but never attended hospital to get checked out

[johntrevor]

ethan killed off as he gets interesting knowing about ruby and rose but will his killer ruby escape the law and charles

Yes bit of a shock, don't think anyone saw that coming. So now Ruby a murderer.

[johntrevor]

Well, the doctors failed to work their magic this time.

Ahh but was he taken to Hotten General ?

[Perdita]

Ahh but was he taken to Hotten General ?

No, because although Manpreet had a look at him after he was hit by the car he was never taken to hospital but he went home....

[lizann]

will at least guilt and honesty from ruby but will she tell charles

[katie hunter]

How does Rose manage to put her hair in pigtails with a broken wrist? 🤔

[lizann]

belle should return to the clinic taking the dog with her

[Dennis tanner]

ethan was involved in a crash and then ran down but never attended hospital to get checked out

Did his father's girlfriend recommend he go to hospital ?

[Perdita]

Did his father's girlfriend recommend he go to hospital ?

If she did, it was not shown unless I missed it....

[Perdita]

So how long before the villagers know it was Ruby who ran Ethan over in her car and that the injuries obtained from that possibly caused his death.....

[Son of Cain]

If she did, it was not shown unless I missed it....

After they went back to the house, she said, she did not think he had concussion, but that he should go to A&E to get checked out. He said he was fine, just cuts and bruises, and did not want to go. Charles was obsessing about who did it and that he thought Ethan knew and would not tell, Manpreet told him to stop browbeating Ethan. All very dramatic and to allow us to think this is what led to Ethan's death. But that remains to be seen. Funny if this is not what caused Ethan's death and Ruby confesses before this is discovered.

[johntrevor]

No, because although Manpreet had a look at him after he was hit by the car he was never taken to hospital but he went home....

That's what I mean. Had he gone to Hotten General he would be fit and well and out training for the Great North Run by now.

[johntrevor]

After they went back to the house, she said, she did not think he had concussion, but that he should go to A&E to get checked out. He said he was fine, just cuts and bruises, and did not want to go. Charles was obsessing about who did it and that he thought Ethan knew and would not tell, Manpreet told him to stop browbeating Ethan. All very dramatic and to allow us to think this is what led to Ethan's death. But that remains to be seen. Funny if this is not what caused Ethan's death and Ruby confesses before this is discovered.

I think Nicky will suss out who did it, will he shop her or maybe tell Suni, and he will do it ?

[lizann]

I think Nicky will suss out who did it, will he shop her or maybe tell Suni, and he will do it ?

ruby confessed to nicky she was feeling the guilt

[Perdita]

Nicky will not be able to keep this secret ... however, if Ruby denies having confessed that she drove the car, will there be enough evidence on the car to prove that she did?

[ccahill2]

to allow us to think this is what led to Ethan's death. But that remains to be seen. Funny if this is not what caused Ethan's death and Ruby confesses before this is discovered.

Because he held his head, I figured a clot went to his head and he had a stroke, but as you said, it would be ironic if he died of other causes and Ruby already confessed.

Honestly, I would believe it to be related to the accident regardless. Even if it were a congenital issue, such as a poorly functioning heart, if not for the trauma, I don't think the clot would have travelled.

But I like the idea of Ruby freaking out, even if I am having fun with the character.

[Son of Cain]

Nicky will not be able to keep this secret ... however, if Ruby denies having confessed that she drove the car, will there be enough evidence on the car to prove that she did?

The way Ruby has been presented to us, I cannot see her having any feelings of guilt. Fear of being caught, yes, but feelings of guilt, no. I am sure Caleb will had any damage repaired by now, or get rid of the car.

[ccahill2]

If Nicky speaks up, I don't know whether it will hold up in court, because it's hearsay. However, it might help forensics to know what to look for, and they could lookover her car for evidence, as well.

[Dennis tanner]

If Nicky speaks up, I don't know whether it will hold up in court, because it's hearsay. However, it might help forensics to know what to look for, and they could lookover her car for evidence, as well.

Something that the defendant has said to you is not hearsay.

[ccahill2]

Something that the defendant has said to you is not hearsay.

I can only speak to US law, so it might be different there, but if heard outside of court where the person is under oath, it is inadmissible.

Is it different in the UK?

[lizann]

The way Ruby has been presented to us, I cannot see her having any feelings of guilt. Fear of being caught, yes, but feelings of guilt, no. I am sure Caleb will had any damage repaired by now, or get rid of the car.


she was upset, visibly remorseful that she killed ethan she wanted to confess only caleb stopped her

[Dennis tanner]

I can only speak to US law, so it might be different there, but if heard outside of court where the person is under oath, it is inadmissible.

Is it different in the UK?
Yes. Hearsay is when one witness tries to repeat the words of another witness.

There are exemptions such as a dying declaration.

[Dennis tanner]

I can only speak to US law, so it might be different there, but if heard outside of court where the person is under oath, it is inadmissible.

Is it different in the UK?
Yes. Hearsay is when one witness tries to repeat the words of another witness.

There are exemptions such as a dying declaration.

[Son of Cain]

she was upset, visibly remorseful that she killed ethan she wanted to confess only caleb stopped her

Exactly what I find difficult to accept, she was presented as someone who did not care about anyone, except Caleb and Nicky, now suddenly she has a conscience. When you hit someone with a car even if you do not intend to kill them, you should know there is a good chance they will die, even after she hit Ethan she was still threatening him, no sign of conscience then. She is carrying on with her plot against Kim.

[ccahill2]

She was also shown as being upset after backhanding Chas in the chest shortly after surgery. To me, she was more upset that Caleb would reject her for it than she was for hurting Chas.

I think she has untreated mental illness and acts out in ways that have consequences. Who hits someone with their car to teach them a lesson? Of course they may die and at minimum it's premeditated assault.

Ruby's a mess. She has rage issues, she's insanely jealous, she wants a man who lusts for her but doesn't love her. Her love for her son borders on possession.

And yet, I still find her entertaining. I should hate her for what she did to Ethan, but she is such a complex character that she is interesting to watch.

[Son of Cain]

She was also shown as being upset after backhanding Chas in the chest shortly after surgery. To me, she was more upset that Caleb would reject her for it than she was for hurting Chas.

I think she has untreated mental illness and acts out in ways that have consequences. Who hits someone with their car to teach them a lesson? Of course they may die and at minimum it's premeditated assault.

Ruby's a mess. She has rage issues, she's insanely jealous, she wants a man who lusts for her but doesn't love her. Her love for her son borders on possession.

And yet, I still find her entertaining. I should hate her for what she did to Ethan, but she is such a complex character that she is interesting to watch.

She certainly is entertaining, a lot more so than Charles, who is just boring. She probably does have a mentail illness, I agree that I do not think she was particularly remorseful with Chas.The problem is that unless an actor is leaving, or being written out of the programme, they tend to get away with their crimes. I used to think that what is shown on TV does not affect the way people behave in real life, now I am not so sure.

[lizann]

good scenes with cain and ella, that village cannot judge anyone

[ccahill2]

Yes! I never expected Cain to be the one who could understand and get her to open up. I really enjoyed those scenes.

[Dennis tanner]

good scenes with cain and ella, that village cannot judge anyone
It made it an excellent episode

[Son of Cain]

Not only is Emmerdale "The Village of the Damned" it is "The Village of Hypocrites". It is said "let those without sin cast the first stone". Walking down Emmerdale High Street you would be in very little danger of being hit by a flying stone. Ella is in a similar position to Belle but I do not remember the village being so unforgiving then, or with Kyle or Dan. Leyla has been turned into a nasty piece of work, especially as Ella pointed out how her addiction got her son stabbed. Because of what happened to his daughter, I can understand Liam's feelings, but I wonder if he will forgive Ella when he has had time to think about the situation.

[johntrevor]

Not only is Emmerdale "The Village of the Damned" it is "The Village of Hypocrites". It is said "let those without sin cast the first stone". Walking down Emmerdale High Street you would be in very little danger of being hit by a flying stone. Ella is in a similar position to Belle but I do not remember the village being so unforgiving then, or with Kyle or Dan. Leyla has been turned into a nasty piece of work, especially as Ella pointed out how her addiction got her son stabbed. Because of what happened to his daughter, I can understand Liam's feelings, but I wonder if he will forgive Ella when he has had time to think about the situation.

Excellent post, yes Liam's problem is that his daughter was killed in a similar way, so he will find it hard to forgive Ella. Although similar it was NOT the same, Ella and her friend were just squabbling and fell out. Meena who killed Leanna, was an out and out crazy murderer, looking for someone to kill.

[johntrevor]

Yes! I never expected Cain to be the one who could understand and get her to open up. I really enjoyed those scenes.

Yes who ever thought Cain capable of listening and sympathising. Good job Edna, Betty and Pearl aren't still around, Ella would have been hounded out by now.

[Son of Cain]

Yes who ever thought Cain capable of listening and sympathising. Good job Edna, Betty and Pearl aren't still around, Ella would have been hounded out by now.

Think Leyla might be trying to replace one if not all of them.

[lizann]

Think Leyla might be trying to replace one if not all of them.

that tracy in there too, at least the older ones were enjoyable

[Son of Cain]

that tracy in there too, at least the older ones were enjoyable

I am thinking of buying a load of pitchforks and flaming torches and heading to Emmerdale, should clean up and make a fortune.

[Dennis tanner]

Not only is Emmerdale "The Village of the Damned" it is "The Village of Hypocrites". It is said "let those without sin cast the first stone". Walking down Emmerdale High Street you would be in very little danger of being hit by a flying stone. Ella is in a similar position to Belle but I do not remember the village being so unforgiving then, or with Kyle or Dan. Leyla has been turned into a nasty piece of work, especially as Ella pointed out how her addiction got her son stabbed. Because of what happened to his daughter, I can understand Liam's feelings, but I wonder if he will forgive Ella when he has had time to think about the situation.

The problem is that apart from the 'vicar' his mother and probably Amelia, anything biblical would be lost on everyone else

[Son of Cain]

The problem is that apart from the 'vicar' his mother and probably Amelia, anything biblical would be lost on everyone else

Well, Charles is hardly without sin, so he should not be throwing any stones.

[Dennis tanner]

Well, Charles is hardly without sin, so he should not be throwing any stones.

That is true but I guess that he would know of the passage. Perhaps he doesn't think it applies to him ?

[ccahill2]

Fiery Liam is a bit more interesting to watch than soft-spoken gentleman Liam.

[Son of Cain]

Fiery Liam is a bit more interesting to watch than soft-spoken gentleman Liam.

I expected more of Liam, being a doctor I thought he might have been a bit more understanding.

Considering how many people in the village have lashed out at someone, it is surprising that a few more have not ended up in Ella's position. It is said "The difference between life and death, is no more than the thickness of a butterfly's wing".

[Son of Cain]

Why would Tracey think that Ellla would start murdering random children?

[lizann]

Why would Tracey think that Ellla would start murdering random children?

does she think the same of kyle and belle, her ex relatives

nate should maybe get with ella now

[Dennis tanner]

Why would Tracey think that Ellla would start murdering random children?

Tracy should have told the truth. " I am getting a new doctor because you two are never there"

[ccahill2]

I don't know why on earth Kim is continuing to allow Rose to stay in the house, especially after that pass she seemed to be making, yesterday. I'd say that if Dawn wants her close, let her stay in the stable, but even the horses don't deserve that.

The show seems to be trying to make Marlon appear as the bad guy. Personally, I have no issue that Rhona blew on the stand and spoke her truth, but spouses have a life. They do things that don't always require full disclosure. Certainly if one thing affects the other's life, then it's different (and having Marlon raising another man's baby is a biggie, but he was going to do that either way).

I almost feel like the Rhona/Marlon situation is there just for contrast for Belle and Tom.

[johntrevor]

I don't know why on earth Kim is continuing to allow Rose to stay in the house, especially after that pass she seemed to be making, yesterday. I'd say that if Dawn wants her close, let her stay in the stable, but even the horses don't deserve that.

The show seems to be trying to make Marlon appear as the bad guy. Personally, I have no issue that Rhona blew on the stand and spoke her truth, but spouses have a life. They do things that don't always require full disclosure. Certainly if one thing affects the other's life, then it's different (and having Marlon raising another man's baby is a biggie, but he was going to do that either way).

I almost feel like the Rhona/Marlon situation is there just for contrast for Belle and Tom.

I think Marlon has lost the plot a bit. Nothing that Rhona said in court was a lie. She simply blurted out the truth because of Gus smirking while she was giving evidence. Marlon needs to grow up, he seems to have forgotten all of Gus's actions against Rhona prior to the trial.

[Son of Cain]

I think Marlon has lost the plot a bit. Nothing that Rhona said in court was a lie. She simply blurted out the truth because of Gus smirking while she was giving evidence. Marlon needs to grow up, he seems to have forgotten all of Gus's actions against Rhona prior to the trial.

Marlon has lost the plot, he seems to be looking for things to get annoyed about. I do not think it is so much what Rhona did, that upset him, but that she made decisions without talking it over with him first. Initially my sympathies lay with Marlon by I think he has now a reached a stage where he does not want to sort things out with Rhona. But I do not think she is blameless as she does not seem to want to admit she did anything wrong.

Anyway tonight "Carry on Camping" looking forward to that. What could possibly go wrong, two men in a tent, in the tranquil countryside.

[Son of Cain]

Preparing for the Village ostacizing Matty for stabbing Samson. Will he be going off to join Ella?

Surely they have CCTV in The Hide after all the incidents that have occurred there over the years? Bet they don't or it was not switched on.

[Snagglepus]

Surely they have CCTV in The Hide after all the incidents that have occurred there over the years? Bet they don't or it was not switched on.
There will be some fault with it that was meant to have been sorted but was never got around to.

[ccahill2]

New dude is a psycho. Kind of like Eddie Haskell on acid.

Rose is a card. Dawn's a nervy little thing inviting her to stay at Kim's when she knows that Kim doesn't want this.

Marlon's imitation of Paddy's snoring like a chainsaw was everything.

I actually found Gus to be warm and handsome today. Am I losing it?

[lizann]

surely kim could afford a proper teacher to home school dawn's kids

will samson lie get matty done save new mate josh

poor birthday for sarah no debbie jack cain or charity

[Dennis tanner]

The show seems to be trying to make Marlon appear as the bad guy. Personally, I have no issue that Rhona blew on the stand and spoke her truth, but spouses have a life. They do things that don't always require full disclosure. Certainly if one thing affects the other's life, then it's different (and having Marlon raising another man's baby is a biggie, but he was going to do that either way).
Poppet betrayed him very badly and unless Gus thinks she could help him with an appeal against sentence he should have nothing to do with her

[Dennis tanner]

will samson lie get matty done save new mate josh

The obnoxious Josh doesn't really need saving. All he did was push Samson in his back. The stabbing was an accident

[Son of Cain]

The obnoxious Josh doesn't really need saving. All he did was push Samson in his back. The stabbing was an accident

Josh does need saving (or exposing) he told Moira and presumably the police that Matty came at him with a knife which is untrue, he also said on the phone that there had been a stabbing, not an accident. Then he told Jai to keep Matty away from him, suggesting that Matty had been the aggressor. Samson now has to decide whether to back up Josh or Matty. He pushed Samson hard to wards someone holding a knife, that was reckless, so there must be something he can be charged with

[Son of Cain]

Ruby finding a conscience does not seem to have lasted long, as she is continuing with her plan against Kim.

[Son of Cain]

Thinking about Josh a bit more, what he did might qualify as a "hate crime" as Matty is trans and that seemed to be the reason why Josh was picking on him.

[Snagglepus]

Sam and the villagers, having known Matty for years, will be on his side and believe his version of events over a no-mark that has recently come on the scene.

[johntrevor]

Josh does need saving (or exposing) he told Moira and presumably the police that Matty came at him with a knife which is untrue, he also said on the phone that there had been a stabbing, not an accident. Then he told Jai to keep Matty away from him, suggesting that Matty had been the aggressor. Samson now has to decide whether to back up Josh or Matty. He pushed Samson hard to wards someone holding a knife, that was reckless, so there must be something he can be charged with

Quite right everything he said was a total lie, the most obnoxious character to come into Emmerdale in ages. I think Samson will work that out and shop him, he was hellbent on causing trouble.

[johntrevor]

Thinking about Josh a bit more, what he did might qualify as a "hate crime" as Matty is trans and that seemed to be the reason why Josh was picking on him.

Yes definitely a "hate crime".

[Son of Cain]

Sam and the villagers, having known Matty for years, will be on his side and believe his version of events over a no-mark that has recently come on the scene.

Sam did not seem very supportive or believing that Matty was not to blame. He is already threatening him with violence.

[lizann]

Sam and the villagers, having known Matty for years, will be on his side and believe his version of events over a no-mark that has recently come on the scene.

not if samson lies backs up josh

[ccahill2]

I am actually feeling for Amelia and the baby with Samson acting so teenage right now, trying to get respect from the bully. I do think that this was a hate crime. It broke my heart to hear Matty cry for his mother as he was being put into the police car, although I wondered why a married man was crying for his mother and not his wife, but I'm not sure Amy was sold.

This show seems obsessed with parents seeing their children in pain, hurt, or murdered. I hope that Samson speaks up, and of course, that he is okay.

[lizann]

I am actually feeling for Amelia and the baby with Samson acting so teenage right now, trying to get respect from the bully. I do think that this was a hate crime. It broke my heart to hear Matty cry for his mother as he was being put into the police car, although I wondered why a married man was crying for his mother and not his wife, but I'm not sure Amy was sold.

This show seems obsessed with parents seeing their children in pain, hurt, or murdered. I hope that Samson speaks up, and of course, that he is okay.

amy and matty are shown more like siblings than a couple to me but hearing him cry for moira was sad

moira or lydia hopefully will catch josh out

im waiting for tom to chain belle to the kitchen sink and lock her in the house

[lizann]

I am actually feeling for Amelia and the baby with Samson acting so teenage right now, trying to get respect from the bully. I do think that this was a hate crime. It broke my heart to hear Matty cry for his mother as he was being put into the police car, although I wondered why a married man was crying for his mother and not his wife, but I'm not sure Amy was sold.

This show seems obsessed with parents seeing their children in pain, hurt, or murdered. I hope that Samson speaks up, and of course, that he is okay.

samson has said on more than one occasion he wants nothing to do with the baby

so afraid of josh, samson lies and of course no cctv

[Son of Cain]

I am actually feeling for Amelia and the baby with Samson acting so teenage right now, trying to get respect from the bully. I do think that this was a hate crime. It broke my heart to hear Matty cry for his mother as he was being put into the police car, although I wondered why a married man was crying for his mother and not his wife, but I'm not sure Amy was sold.

This show seems obsessed with parents seeing their children in pain, hurt, or murdered. I hope that Samson speaks up, and of course, that he is okay.

Personally I thought they over did the Matty crying scene, he was acting like a twelve year old child, instead of a thirty year old adult.

[ccahill2]

samson has said on more than one occasion he wants nothing to do with the baby



Thanks for that @lizann. That was my first story when I started watching, and I confused a lot of characters back then. This helped.

[lizann]

Personally I thought they over did the Matty crying scene, he was acting like a twelve year old child, instead of a thirty year old adult.

as a trans going to prison he was scared, reverted to wanting his mother, he was still processing what happened too, i felt sorry for him

[Dennis tanner]

as a trans going to prison he was scared, reverted to wanting his mother, he was still processing what happened too, i felt sorry for him

If the Scrote Josh had just said it was an accident, that would be the end of the matter

[Perdita]

How did Josh find out about Matty being transgender? I missed some of the episode

[Son of Cain]

How did Josh find out about Matty being transgender? I missed some of the episode

Samson told him, he said he wished he had not, when Josh started picking on Matty.

[Son of Cain]

If the Scrote Josh had just said it was an accident, that would be the end of the matter

Josh was not going to say it was an accident because he had made a choice to pick on Matty because he was trans. Was it an accident? He deliberately pushed Samson hard towards Matty knowing he was holding a knife. There is a school of thought that says there are very few real accidents, most occur because of the way people choose to behave. Most "road traffic accidents" do not happen randomly, they happen because of bad driving by one or more drivers. Josh set out to cause trouble and it was always going to end up badly for Matty, Samson was just collateral damage.

[Son of Cain]

as a trans going to prison he was scared, reverted to wanting his mother, he was still processing what happened too, i felt sorry for him

I felt sorry for him, but I still feel they over did the crying, you could see the acting.

[lizann]

you scrote samson

[Son of Cain]

So much for Sam and Lydia believing Matty, over some no-mark who has recently arrived in the village. Mandy does not seem to be too sympathetic to him either.

[lizann]

So much for Sam and Lydia believing Matty, over some no-mark who has recently arrived in the village. Mandy does not seem to be too sympathetic to him either.

mandy is too busy pushing vinny with gabby, is there any other women for him, they are better as just friends

mandy not even noticing how belle is especially when tom is around

[ccahill2]

you scrote samson

Truly! Where is Ruby when you need her?

[Son of Cain]

Charles really is a ignorant sod. He comes out his front door, he sees Manpreet returning from the shop at the garden gate, and and he pulls the door closed. What a gentleman.

[lizann]

Truly! Where is Ruby when you need her?

comforting manpreet and charles

[ccahill2]

I love Lydia so much, but I do want to shake some sense into her about Samson. I guess she loves so hard that she believes him, but she was really laying into Moira and Amy. I have to admit, though, that I don't have enough history to know whether she knows Matty and whether she knows how out of character this is for him.

Still, I want to drop a toaster into Samson's bathtub.

[Son of Cain]

I love Lydia so much, but I do want to shake some sense into her about Samson. I guess she loves so hard that she believes him, but she was really laying into Moira and Amy. I have to admit, though, that I don't have enough history to know whether she knows Matty and whether she knows how out of character this is for him.

Still, I want to drop a toaster into Samson's bathtub.

Note to Samson: Keep the bathroom door locked when you are having a bath.

[ccahill2]

Note to Samson: Keep the bathroom door locked when you are having a bath.

Haha! If I have any say over it!

[Dennis tanner]

It never occurs to Daft Sam and Daft Lydia that Samson is being bullied.

[lizann]

wendy seems suspicious of tom

[Son of Cain]

Was that loud bang I heard about 7.40 pm the sound of your new coincidence meter exploding, Parkerman. Honestly, I mean really, the coroner phoning Charles just as Ruby was about to confess, could we ever see a greater coincidence than that.

[Dennis tanner]

Was that loud bang I heard about 7.40 pm the sound of your new coincidence meter exploding, Parkerman. Honestly, I mean really, the coroner phoning Charles just as Ruby was about to confess, could we ever see a greater coincidence than that.

Coroners don't phone anyone. In these circumstances it would be the Coroner's officer. The cause of death would be quickly identified at the post mortem which would be held long before a funeral

[ccahill2]

Am I wrong for smiling when Caleb got clocked in the eye?

[Perdita]

Wouldn't a vicar from a neighbouring parish hold the funeral for Ethan?

[Dennis tanner]

Wouldn't a vicar from a neighbouring parish hold the funeral for Ethan?

Charles was afraid the villagers might see how a proper vicar did the job

[johntrevor]

Am I wrong for smiling when Caleb got clocked in the eye?

No you're not, Kim should have done it long ago.

[lizann]

did bob ever get a coroner's call about heath

[ccahill2]

I really appreciated Bob's talking to Charles. Charles is quite the card, although I did like his words about Job. I was surprised that he was proceeding over his own son's funeral, and agree with the above that another clergy person should have come in to lead so that Charles could grieve with his family. His words to Manpreet about purity were rather biting.

[ccahill2]

Just a heads up, I'm reading that there will be no new episode this evening. I saw two articles. One only mentioned tonight and the other mentioned that the next new episode will be on Tuesday.

[Perdita]

Just a heads up, I'm reading that there will be no new episode this evening. I saw two articles. One only mentioned tonight and the other mentioned that the next new episode will be on Tuesday.

There will be no Emmerdale or Coronation Street today because ITV are showing the European Football Championships :)

[Dennis tanner]

There will be no Emmerdale or Coronation Street today because ITV are showing the European Football Championships :)

Why are these games on ITV1 ?

[Perdita]

Why are these games on ITV1 ?

I guess so they can reap most of the advertising fees, the companies want their product shown when millions of football fans are watching, there are less viewers on the other channels during these type of competitions, I guess.

[Perdita]

I know Tom locked Belle in but he could not have known that the tea towel would catch on fire? So why did he?? :hmm:

[lizann]

I know Tom locked Belle in but he could not have known that the tea towel would catch on fire? So why did he?? :hmm:

control, he doesn't want her anywhere alone, only out with him

[johntrevor]

I guess so they can reap most of the advertising fees, the companies want their product shown when millions of football fans are watching, there are less viewers on the other channels during these type of competitions, I guess.

I suppose thats understandable, although not everyone is interested in football. ITV have 4 channels why not move Emmerdale to one of them, BBC are putting Eastenders on BBC 2.

[Perdita]

I suppose thats understandable, although not everyone is interested in football. ITV have 4 channels why not move Emmerdale to one of them, BBC are putting Eastenders on BBC 2.

BBC do not get advertising revenue... easy for them to switch channels for a couple of weeks...

[Son of Cain]

Why are these games on ITV1 ?

I am not a football fan, but I believe there is a rule, or even a law, that says the rights to matches must be shared out equally between The BBC and ITV. I think that the final is shown on both.

[Dennis tanner]

I guess so they can reap most of the advertising fees, the companies want their product shown when millions of football fans are watching, there are less viewers on the other channels during these type of competitions, I guess.

I like football but I have no interest in seeing two foreign teams play each other

[lizann]

go on moira and kim should kick out rose

[ccahill2]

Moira is right that Cain isn't behaving as per self. Not much happened after he was bashed over the head by Aaron except for him passing out once, but I'm wondering whether his change is due to a traumatic brain injury after that attack.

[Son of Cain]

Surely Moira should know better than to do anything that will draw attention to Matty, has she learned nothing in the time she has been married to Cain.

She wants Cain to MAKE Samson confess, but if Samson goes to the police battered and bruised does she think they will believe him.

[johntrevor]

Moira is right that Cain isn't behaving as per self. Not much happened after he was bashed over the head by Caleb except for him passing out once, but I'm wondering whether his change is due to a traumatic brain injury after that attack.

It was Aaron who hit Cain over the head.

[ccahill2]

It was Aaron who hit Cain over the head.

Oops, I saw Aaron's face and wrote Caleb. I'll see if the board will let me edit.

[johntrevor]

Oops, I saw Aaron's face and wrote Caleb. I'll see if the board will let me edit.

lol. Don't worry about it, it's easily done.

[Perdita]

Oops, I saw Aaron's face and wrote Caleb. I'll see if the board will let me edit.

See where it says Edit Post on your post.. click on that and you can make the changes :)

[Dennis tanner]

Cain needs to come up with a solution that will get Matty discharged without Samson getting prosecuted.

[Perdita]

Cain needs to come up with a solution that will get Matty discharged without Samson getting prosecuted.

How?

[Son of Cain]

How?

Cain should be putting pressure on Josh, he is the one that lied. Getting him to admit what he did and to say he threatened Samson to back up his lies, would solve everything.

[lizann]

Cain should be putting pressure on Josh, he is the one that lied. Getting him to admit what he did and to say he threatened Samson to back up his lies, would solve everything.

yes cain not going after josh makes no sense

i wonder will sarah play a part as josh flirts with her

[Dennis tanner]

How? Put pressure on Josh

[lizann]

is "mechanic" sarah getting the parts and repairing samson's car?

[Dennis tanner]

is "mechanic" sarah getting the parts and repairing samson's car?

They don't mess about with qualifications in Emmerdale.

[ccahill2]

Tom is so pompous that he thinks his magic swimmers are so all-powerful that if there is a miscarriage that it has to be the hospital's fault. Loser.

I fear for Belle when he finds the medication instructions on the floor of the car - or the box the parking ticket or whatever it was.

[Dennis tanner]

Tom is so pompous that he thinks his magic swimmers are so all-powerful that if there is a miscarriage that it has to be the hospital's fault. Loser.

I fear for Belle when he finds the medication instructions on the floor of the car - or the box the parking ticket or whatever it was.

It's true that Belle is rubbish at subterfuge

[lizann]

belle could have told cain or just took off left tom

[Perdita]

belle could have told cain or just took off left tom

Yes but that would probably not happen in real life... Having been through all this I can only applaud Emmerdale for portraying this very realistically and while I see social media screaming for it to stop to tell this story realistically it has to go on for a while longer. We know that soapland shortens storylines so I guess either the Autumn special or Christmas special is when Tom will get what he deserves...but they have done the storyline justice in my opinion, very well done Emmerdale team !!

[lizann]

Yes but that would probably not happen in real life... Having been through all this I can only applaud Emmerdale for portraying this very realistically and while I see social media screaming for it to stop to tell this story realistically it has to go on for a while longer. We know that soapland shortens storylines so I guess either the Autumn special or Christmas special is when Tom will get what he deserves...but they have done the storyline justice in my opinion, very well done Emmerdale team !!

probably killed off by lydia or mandy, instead id like to see belle strong leave him and get him done for abuse, coercive control

[ccahill2]

I've been anticipating a Christmas episode with the big showdown. I'd love for Belle to document and to get the upper hand legally, but this is a soap and we'll deal with this in the most dramatic way, which I predict may be letting a stye of 100 pigs trample Tom to death. Ashes to ashes.

[johntrevor]

I've been anticipating a Christmas episode with the big showdown. I'd love for Belle to document and to get the upper hand legally, but this is a soap and we'll deal with this in the most dramatic way, which I predict may be letting a stye of 100 pigs trample Tom to death. Ashes to ashes.

Emmerdale has said it will run until the end of the year. So probably end at Christmas or just after.

[Dennis tanner]

Emmerdale has said it will run until the end of the year. So probably end at Christmas or just after.

Merry Christmas then Mrs King. The problem is that Belle is very confused. She doesn't want his baby and doesn't want to leave him because she still thinks she loves him.

[lizann]

so close to getting away if only she took piper at the start, at least that nurse advised her to leave him

[ccahill2]

Well that was painful to watch. She was so close. I was screaming for her to take Piper the first time, because I could imagine Tom saying you killed my child so I'll kill yours.

However, I do love those scenes with her therapist. I actually find them riveting to watch.

[johntrevor]

Well that was painful to watch. She was so close. I was screaming for her to take Piper the first time, because I could imagine Tom saying you killed my child so I'll kill yours.

However, I do love those scenes with her therapist. I actually find them riveting to watch.

It was pretty easy for the therapist to work out where the actual problem lies. Completely and totally with bullying Tom. I hope she can take it further and fully expose Tom while Belle still has a life.

[Dennis tanner]

Well that was painful to watch. She was so close. I was screaming for her to take Piper the first time, because I could imagine Tom saying you killed my child so I'll kill yours.

However, I do love those scenes with her therapist. I actually find them riveting to watch.

At the end of the day, she faffed about and so she's still there.

[Son of Cain]

Tom to Belle "I bet you wished that Paddy was not there". Well, I certainly do , and I bet there are a few on here, that do to.

[Son of Cain]

Matty is certainly not making things easy for himself. Reading his book when his cellmate is talking to him, very disrespectful.

[Dennis tanner]

Tom to Belle "I bet you wished that Paddy was not there". Well, I certainly do , and I bet there are a few on here, that do to.

If she doesn't, I do.

[ccahill2]

Although it might drag on like in reality, I am so over this sociopathic Tom stuff. When he returned, my heart sunk as if we are back to day one.

I started watching Emmerdale because its pacing was so better than American soaps where stories never seem to end. I liked the excitement and quick turnover.

But enough is enough. I used to have fun tuning in, and now it's like my evening of doom. Especially knowing that there is at least six more months of this.

And then there is Matty who I am beginning to think is empty between the ears, and I like Matty, but his innocence is almost contrived.

The only bright spot yesterday was Charity. I enjoyed seeing her again, was angry at her for outing Belle's planned escape route, but loved her discussion with Mac and how she thinks Tom is too perfect.

Can't he get kicked by a horse?

[johntrevor]

The magical Hotten General strikes again. End of last week tom wired up and still unconcious in bed, first show this week Tom knocking at Belle's door to come in and subjecting her to even MORE controlling abuse. PLEASE Emmerdale end this poor girl's terrible treatment NOW.

[Son of Cain]

And then there is Matty who I am beginning to think is empty between the ears, and I like Matty, but his innocence is almost contrived.


I do not understand why Matty does not tell his cellmate he is accused of stabbing someone. It might earn him a bit of respect or instill a bit of fear in his fellow prisoners, instead of coming over as being so wimpy.

[Dennis tanner]

Although it might drag on like in reality, I am so over this sociopathic Tom stuff. When he returned, my heart sunk as if we are back to day one.

I started watching Emmerdale because its pacing was so better than American soaps where stories never seem to end. I liked the excitement and quick turnover.

But enough is enough. I used to have fun tuning in, and now it's like my evening of doom. Especially knowing that there is at least six more months of this.

And then there is Matty who I am beginning to think is empty between the ears, and I like Matty, but his innocence is almost contrived.

The only bright spot yesterday was Charity. I enjoyed seeing her again, was angry at her for outing Belle's planned escape route, but loved her discussion with Mac and how she thinks Tom is too perfect.

Can't he get kicked by a horse?

I have to agree with all this

[Dennis tanner]

I do not understand why Matty does not tell his cellmate he is accused of stabbing someone. It might earn him a bit of respect or instill a bit of fear in his fellow prisoners, instead of coming over as being so wimpy.

Perhaps attempted murder would be even better

[Snagglepus]

With the changing of the schedules due to football I seem to have missed the episodes concerning Arthur and him going to Australia.
When did this come about, who has he gone with or staying with, how long for, I don't even remember a send off party or even him being seen off at the airport.
If I missed those episodes I must also be behind on other storylines.

[lizann]

With the changing of the schedules due to football I seem to have missed the episodes concerning Arthur and him going to Australia.
When did this come about, who has he gone with or staying with, how long for, I don't even remember a send off party or even him being seen off at the airport.
If I missed those episodes I must also be behind on other storylines.


it was only mentioned the other night by laurel nothing else before, assume gone to doug but who paid

[Perdita]

With the changing of the schedules due to football I seem to have missed the episodes concerning Arthur and him going to Australia.
When did this come about, who has he gone with or staying with, how long for, I don't even remember a send off party or even him being seen off at the airport.
If I missed those episodes I must also be behind on other storylines.

Not seen him recently but a lot of characters have been absent lately but not aware he has left Emmerdale....

[Son of Cain]

Not seen him recently but a lot of characters have been absent lately but not aware he has left Emmerdale....

Could well be he is concentrating on school exams, he looks about the age when he could be doing A levels or GCSEs.

[Dennis tanner]

Could well be he is concentrating on school exams, he looks about the age when he could be doing A levels or GCSEs.

Going to Australia wont help him.

[Son of Cain]

Will we ever find out why Minty died ? What a very contrived way to bring Cain and Moira back together. - Poor Minty sacrificed on the alter of love.

[Son of Cain]

Is anything being done about these constant error messages? Very annoying to type a post and then cannot submit it.

[Son of Cain]

Charity just stopped short of waterboarding, or tying Belle to a chair and reaching for a cattle prod, to get Belle to talk. A little less aggression might be more conducive to getting her to open up.

[Dennis tanner]

Charity just stopped short of waterboarding, or tying Belle to a chair and reaching for a cattle prod, to get Belle to talk. A little less aggression might be more conducive to getting her to open up.

They might get to the point when thery stop trying to help her

[Son of Cain]

Laurel tells Jai she did not want to talk about their argument but then goes on to discuss it anyway, and just to help Laurel have a second heart attack, Suni brings her a box of chocolates.

[Son of Cain]

I am not really a fan of Calleb, but I was half hoping he would hit Charles over the head with a tree branch, and bury his body in the woods.

[lizann]

did someone take a patch out of charles hair

[Perdita]

did someone take a patch out of charles hair

He has always had that odd bit, not sure if it is a bit of grey hair or a patch, I have always wondered

[Son of Cain]

He has always had that odd bit, not sure if it is a bit of grey hair or a patch, I have always wondered

I noticed this a while ago and assumed it was a scar from a real life injury? But I am wondering if it was always there, or is it make-up that appeared after "Survival Week", when if I remember right he sustained a head injury while he was in the river.

[Son of Cain]

Wondering who leaves letters or receipts next to their kitchen sink?

[johntrevor]

I noticed this a while ago and assumed it was a scar from a real life injury? But I am wondering if it was always there, or is it make-up that appeared after "Survival Week", when if I remember right he sustained a head injury while he was in the river.

It's always been there, I noticed it when he first arrived in Emmerdale.

[ccahill2]

I used to think the patch was analogous to shaving your initial into your hair, from way back, but it's a patch, not a letter. I think that the suggestion that it might have been from an accident years ago is a good one.

[Son of Cain]

I thought there was suppose to be an episode tonight, and now there is not. My DVR cannot cope when they keep changing times.

[ccahill2]

Ruby told Caleb if I stay with you, he may never come back. I hope she doesn't leave the show. I find Ruby far more entertaining than Caleb.

[lizann]

I thought there was suppose to be an episode tonight, and now there is not. My DVR cannot cope when they keep changing times.

itvx

[ccahill2]

itvx

I have the same problem with Britbox. Sometimes it doesn't upload the episode to the Prime Video Britbox interface, and the only way I know what happened is by coming here and listening to your discussion.

I don't know whether this is helpful, but when I know that an episode of a TV show that I have set to record daily will be pre-empted or a rerun, I then go to the rest of the days of the week and set each episode to record 'just this once.' It doesn't take away the daily recordings, but seems to catch an episode that wouldn't have otherwise recorded.

[Son of Cain]

itvx

Just looked at ITVx and latest episode is Thursday 4th July. You must have a better ITVx than me. When I looked at the programme guide on my TV yesterday afternoon it definitely showed an episode at 20.30, later it did not. So must have been cancelled, to be shown later. Be glad when football and tennis are over.

[Perdita]

Just looked at ITVx and latest episode is Thursday 4th July. You must have a better ITVx than me. When I looked at the programme guide on my TV yesterday afternoon it definitely showed an episode at 20.30, later it did not. So must have been cancelled, to be shown later. Be glad when football and tennis are over.

No 5th July episode for me on ITX :angry:

[Son of Cain]

No 5th July episode for me on ITX :angry:

Just looked again, still Thursday 4th. Are you in UK.

[Perdita]

Just looked again, still Thursday 4th. Are you in UK.
No. I live in Spain but have VPN and firestick, never had a problem like this before

[lizann]

it dropped early on itvx

i watched on virgin media one in ireland but saw online some saying itvx aired

[johntrevor]

Just looked at ITVx and latest episode is Thursday 4th July. You must have a better ITVx than me. When I looked at the programme guide on my TV yesterday afternoon it definitely showed an episode at 20.30, later it did not. So must have been cancelled, to be shown later. Be glad when football and tennis are over.

It was because the football ran into extra time, so Emmerdale not shown, should have been 8.30 till 9.0, but they went straight to news after football, and then Corrie.

[lizann]

https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/a61519371/emmerdale-episode-rescheduled-euros/

[ccahill2]

I'm looking at my Britbox via Prime Video, and the latest episode posted here in the States is episode 128. It is labeled July 4th, as well.

[Son of Cain]

it dropped early on itvx

i watched on virgin media one in ireland but saw online some saying itvx aired

Is this what they mean when they say "The Luck of the Irish" and the Spanish it seems. We poor Brits will just have to wait, till Monday I suppose.

[Perdita]

Is this what they mean when they say "The Luck of the Irish" and the Spanish it seems. We poor Brits will just have to wait, till Monday I suppose.

Read online that ITV dropped it as some did see it but not all... no idea what is going on

[Dennis tanner]

I used to think the patch was analogous to shaving your initial into your hair, from way back, but it's a patch, not a letter. I think that the suggestion that it might have been from an accident years ago is a good one.

If you look very closely it says 666

[ccahill2]

If you look very closely it says 666

Haha! With Charles, I could believe it is so!

[Perdita]

Still no Friday episode on ITV X :angry:

[Son of Cain]

Still no Friday episode on ITV X :angry:

They will probably show Friday's episode at the usual time tonight, but I wonder if they will squeeze in an extra episode sometime to bring them back on schedule?

[Perdita]

They will probably show Friday's episode at the usual time tonight, but I wonder if they will squeeze in an extra episode sometime to bring them back on schedule?

Any idea why it was not shown?

[johntrevor]

They are showing the Friday episode at 7pm tonight and the scheduled episode straight after at 7.30pm. It wasn't shown last Friday because the football went into extra time. They went straight from the football to Corrie.

[Perdita]

They are showing the Friday episode at 7pm tonight and the scheduled episode straight after at 7.30pm. It wasn't shown last Friday because the football went into extra time. They went straight from the football to Corrie.

FFS Why did they not put it on catch-up? sensible thing to do? not have time to watch both episodes tonight ... :angry:

[lizann]

as if a prisoner could just stand up and talk to another prisoner's visitor on exiting

[Son of Cain]

as if a prisoner could just stand up and talk to another prisoner's visitor on exiting

Especially when everyone else had left the room. They really do take the easy way, when writing these stories. I wish they would put in some extra effort, into coming up with something more believable.

[lizann]

i like les, seems decent with matty

[ccahill2]

Does anyone know whether TG or DNA is used for prison ward assignment in the UK? I would think that once that cavity check was done and the staff realized that Matty didn't have bottom surgery, that they would have made some accommodation so as not to upset the whole cell block and to have a potential lawsuit on their hands. And at minimum when assigning cells, to not include someone with different organs and to pair him with another TG or another accommodation.

[ccahill2]

Sampson is a piece of work. That's all I've got to say.

[lizann]

moira is a tough sob compared to cain

[Dennis tanner]

Sampson is a piece of work. That's all I've got to say.

He's basically an idiot who is afraid to tell the truth for fear of punishment. If he said it was an accident at the start he would not be getting all this hastle

[lizann]

dawn is irritating, even with a sick son, kim puts up with a lot from her and rose

[Son of Cain]

He's basically an idiot who is afraid to tell the truth for fear of punishment. If he said it was an accident at the start he would not be getting all this hastle

Moira is becoming a bit of an idiot too, wanting Matty to report Robbo, Surely she has heard "Snitches get Stiches". She must realize that dobbing someone in, while in prison, would not end well.

Agree that Samson is an idiot, it was not an accident, Josh pushed him hard onto the knife, and Samson must have felt the push and must know that it was this push that caused him to injured.

[johntrevor]

Moira is becoming a bit of an idiot too, wanting Matty to report Robbo, Surely she has heard "Snitches get Stiches". She must realize that dobbing someone in, while in prison, would not end well.

Agree that Samson is an idiot, it was not an accident, Josh pushed him hard onto the knife, and Samson must have felt the push and must know that it was this push that caused him to injured.

That was a dirty trick by Samson, dobbing Moira and Mack in, don't think Cain will take that well, don't know why Moira didn't record Samson's confession on her phone, thats what they do in all the good movies.

[ccahill2]

I wouldn't mind a karma, where Josh has another target and Samson gets hurt again in that set-up.

[Son of Cain]

That was a dirty trick by Samson, dobbing Moira and Mack in, don't think Cain will take that well, don't know why Moira didn't record Samson's confession on her phone, thats what they do in all the good movies.

Moira must be a bigger idiot than I thought. Mind you , Mack standing in the background could have used his phone. If Matty was to be sent to a women's prison he could share a cell with his mum.

[lizann]

finally lydia gets the truth

you'd never think home farm was kim's house and home given how rose and dawn behave

[ccahill2]

you'd never think home farm was kim's house and home given how rose and dawn behave

And you'd never know what a hard woman Kim really is with the way she gives in to all of Dawn's desires for Rose.

[Dennis tanner]

Moira is becoming a bit of an idiot too, wanting Matty to report Robbo, Surely she has heard "Snitches get Stiches". She must realize that dobbing someone in, while in prison, would not end well.

Agree that Samson is an idiot, it was not an accident, Josh pushed him hard onto the knife, and Samson must have felt the push and must know that it was this push that caused him to injured.
Now I am not a Josh fan but I do see the actual wounding as an accident. Did Josh intend for Samson to be wounded? Very difficult to prove.

[lizann]

Now I am not a Josh fan but I do see the actual wounding as an accident. Did Josh intend for Samson to be wounded? Very difficult to prove.

josh saw the knife with matty but still pushed samson into it and matty

[Son of Cain]

If Samson does run, that will not help Matty.

[Perdita]

If Samson does run, that will not help Matty.

I think he will go to the police to change his statement first before he might join Debbie in Scotland to get away from Josh....

[johntrevor]

I think he will go to the police to change his statement first before he might join Debbie in Scotland to get away from Josh....

Turns out Sam is a bigger problem than Samson, advising Samson to do a runner, and stuff Matty. Only Lydia has any morals in that house.

[Perdita]

Sam was a fool to advise Samson to do a runner, I hope he said it in shock having fo und out that Samson lied all the time. Hopefully Lydia will be able to convince Samson to do the right thing and for Sam to agree although doing a runner is a much used storyline for character exits .... :(

[Son of Cain]

I think he will go to the police to change his statement first before he might join Debbie in Scotland to get away from Josh....

Judging by how unpleasant and selfish Samson has become it would not surprise me if he left without clearing Matty. How many Dingles have been to Scotland in the past, but we have never seen any of them there, to the best of my knowledge. Is Sotland a real place, does it really exist?

[Dennis tanner]

With the govermnent releasing so many convicted criminals to free up cell space, one would think that a young man with no previous convictions would be allowed out on bail.

[ccahill2]

With the govermnent releasing so many convicted criminals to free up cell space, one would think that a young man with no previous convictions would be allowed out on bail.

Yes, or even house arrest!

[ccahill2]

Lydia was on fire today! But Samson confused me. Is my memory wrong or was he taking blame for everything that Josh did?

[lizann]

Lydia was on fire today! But Samson confused me. Is my memory wrong or was he taking blame for everything that Josh did?

yes i thought so too when telling the police

cain was wrong to mention alice and cain would do anything for his kids, look at everything he did for debbie even when she at fault, in the wrong

[ccahill2]

That was definitely a low blow.

I'm still astounded at how Rose is still allowed to live in that house.

[Dennis tanner]

Lydia was on fire today! But Samson confused me. Is my memory wrong or was he taking blame for everything that Josh did? He's still scared of Josh.

Free advice time......You should never be scared of your mate

[johntrevor]

Lydia was on fire today! But Samson confused me. Is my memory wrong or was he taking blame for everything that Josh did?

Your memory is spot on, Samson's version of the truth was anythng but. Matty was already holding the knife as he was clearing up, I believe Josh pushed him when he noticed the knife hoping it would injure, or even kill Samson, and so frighten and intimidate Matty.

[lizann]

samson still lying over fear of josh

where did josh's mates come from?

sarah should be careful, josh wasn't afraid of chas

[lizann]

rose allowed into see evan but bursts the bubble, dawn is an idiot and kim too soft

[Dennis tanner]

samson still lying over fear of josh

where did josh's mates come from?

sarah should be careful, josh wasn't afraid of chas

Josh is leader of a gang called, "The Quiet Ones"

[Son of Cain]

Josh is leader of a gang called, "The Quiet Ones"

He is certainly no Marlon Brando.

[Son of Cain]

It is a pity that we did not see the court scene where Matty is released. As things stand there still seems to be a discrepancy between Marty's account and what Samson has now told the police. Samson says he took the bottle and waved it around a bit, so presumably he said Matty stabbed him in self dendense. But surely Matty told them Samson was pushed or fell onto the knife. Did the police not question Josh's role even though Samson said he was nowhere near them.

[ccahill2]

josh wasn't afraid of chas

I was actually afraid for Chas. Josh is a sociopath. Liam did great. I didn't expect that from him at all, and apparently neither did Josh.

Part of me actually fears that Josh is going to kill Samson for 'snitching' and then it's Josh who will go to prison.

[johntrevor]

I was actually afraid for Chas. Josh is a sociopath. Liam did great. I didn't expect that from him at all, and apparently neither did Josh.

Part of me actually fears that Josh is going to kill Samson for 'snitching' and then it's Josh who will go to prison.

Way to go Liam, lets have more of that around Josh and his gang of total losers.

[johntrevor]

I was actually afraid for Chas. Josh is a sociopath. Liam did great. I didn't expect that from him at all, and apparently neither did Josh.

Part of me actually fears that Josh is going to kill Samson for 'snitching' and then it's Josh who will go to prison.

Way to go Liam, lets have more of that around Josh and his gang of total losers. I notice Josh had to recruit his gang after being sorted out by Chas, did he tell them a woman did it I wonder.

[Perdita]

I was actually afraid for Chas. Josh is a sociopath. Liam did great. I didn't expect that from him at all, and apparently neither did Josh.

Part of me actually fears that Josh is going to kill Samson for 'snitching' and then it's Josh who will go to prison.

Been confirmed that Samson will not be killed off so that will not happen.

[Perdita]

Missed bits of last episode.... what is the bottle with clear liquid that Rose got from a strange man? What is she meant to do with it? :hmm:

[ccahill2]

My American soap has had some stories with potions like that. One was a virus containing drop and the other was a drop spiked with LSD, both of which went into someone's drinks. I could say more about what transpired afterwards, but even though this is a spoiler thread, don't want to ruin the element of surprise if someone doesn't want to consider a possibility. I don't know whether this is what will happen, but want to be respectful.

However, if you feel that being a spoiler thread makes it acceptable to speculate, I'll be happy to - I'm new to the board and want to respect the rules.

[lizann]

Been confirmed that Samson will not be killed off so that will not happen.

is the samson actor still leaving, maybe samson or sarah kill josh