Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[Son of Cain]

good on ruby, blunt and direct with moira about nate, someone finally

And was that all it took to make Moira change her mind. If only real life was that simple.

[ccahill2]

I loved that scene with Ruby and Moira. Those two really shine when sharing a scene.

I had a tear with that final scene with Moira and Cain. Who ever thought chicken burgers could be so poignant?

[katie hunter]

Surprised that Cain and Moira are back together so easily.

Where is Joe off to with his Doctor?

Can they leave April in the squat and keep Dylan in the village?

[Son of Cain]

Surprised that Cain and Moira are back together so easily.

Where is Joe off to with his Doctor?

Can they leave April in the squat and keep Dylan in the village?

Personally I would prefer to leave Marlon in the squat.

[lizann]

Surprised that Cain and Moira are back together so easily.

Where is Joe off to with his Doctor?

Can they leave April in the squat and keep Dylan in the village?

get bye april

[Dennis tanner]

Surprised that Cain and Moira are back together so easily.

It wouldn't be so easy if Moira didn't want it and she clearly wanted it. It also helped that Ruby did not want Cain to be available.

[ccahill2]

I've been wondering where this Dawn storyline is going and it came to me when she commented to Kim about being drawn to him. Joe could be using her for her knowledge of where to score illegal drug, either for her own condition, or to drug Noah so that he could kidnap him for his nefarious plans.

[johntrevor]

I've been wondering where this Dawn storyline is going and it came to me when she commented to Kim about being drawn to him. Joe could be using her for her knowledge of where to score illegal drug, either for her own condition, or to drug Noah so that he could kidnap him for his nefarious plans.

I am wondering if Joe is seriously ill and he wants Noah for harvesting one of his organs..i.e. heart, kidneys, liver etc. Maybe the hospital thing he keeps remembering in flashback, is Joe trying to find out if Noah is a suitable donor. Just a thought.

[lizann]

it wouldn't surprise me if dawn offers one of her kids to joe for organs, the way she is carrying on , what was the black box case joe had with the doctor, a specialist machine?

[ccahill2]

it wouldn't surprise me if dawn offers one of her kids to joe for organs, the way she is carrying on , what was the black box case joe had with the doctor, a specialist machine?

I don't know what a dialysis machine looks like but thought it might be that.

[lizann]

I don't know what a dialysis machine looks like but thought it might be that.

yes thought that too

[Son of Cain]

I've been wondering where this Dawn storyline is going and it came to me when she commented to Kim about being drawn to him. Joe could be using her for her knowledge of where to score illegal drug, either for her own condition, or to drug Noah so that he could kidnap him for his nefarious plans.

I do not think Joe needs to score illegal drugs, his dodgy doctor can get any drugs they need to kidnap Noah, pretty sure they already have.

[Snagglepus]

Snow everywhere except outside Marlon's.

[Son of Cain]

I don't know what a dialysis machine looks like but thought it might be that.

I think it would be bigger than that.

[lizann]

tracy stealing from the till in the shop?

[Dennis tanner]

tracy stealing from the till in the shop?

Her's a wrong un. The sooner that Jacob takes over full time the better

[Son of Cain]

tracy stealing from the till in the shop?

A shop that was going bust not so long ago, yet Tracey can takke two grand from the till, and Eric does not notice?

[ccahill2]

Leyla has a beautiful voice for voiceover narration.
Eric Pollard transcends everyone with his ability to make you feel something.
When Mary cries, I cry, but I am so happy that she sucked it up and let Vanessa know what she needed to hear. It makes no difference now.
I am so glad that Matty and Cain were civil in that final scene and I am so glad that Kyle let Cain hug him.

I think that I lost three pounds of water weight today, and all through my eyes.

[Dennis tanner]

A shop that was going bust not so long ago, yet Tracey can takke two grand from the till, and Eric does not notice?

But she did help him to put his tie on even though she made a rubbish job of it. Eric is not the man he was and she has took advantage

[Dennis tanner]

Leyla has a beautiful voice for voiceover narration.
Eric Pollard transcends everyone with his ability to make you feel something.
When Mary cries, I cry, but I am so happy that she sucked it up and let Vanessa know what she needed to hear. It makes no difference now.
I am so glad that Matty and Cain were civil in that final scene and I am so glad that Kyle let Cain hug him.

I think that I lost three pounds of water weight today, and all through my eyes.

Cain not only called him his son. He also acknowledged him as a man. I guess this meant a lot to him

[lizann]

did eric and moira miss amy's funeral, but why was vinny and shep there?

no mention of amelia for amy

matty owes cain for how he helped with samson and josh plus cain is not responsible for amy's death and moira also cheated

you would think sarah would take the test in her room or a bathroom and not keep in her bag

what did leyla see on manpreet's computer?

[lizann]

why did leyla see on manpreet laptop, her porn film, only fans site, billy in the buff training her?

[katie hunter]

No Moira at the funeral and where was Brenda?

[Son of Cain]

why did leyla see on manpreet laptop, her porn film, only fans site, billy in the buff training her?

If it was "Billy in the Buff" that will allow Dawn to blame Billy for her affair with Joe.

[Son of Cain]

I really cannot see Manpreet being silly enough to put naughty pictures of herself online. Another example of changing a character to suit a story.

[thestud2k7]

It’s like this story with Mary and Suzi

Suzi never saw Mary like that

[Dennis tanner]

I really cannot see Manpreet being silly enough to put naughty pictures of herself online. Another example of changing a character to suit a story.

Manpreet was silly enough to rack up thousands in gambling debts. However, that nice Rishi paid them all off before she dumped him.

[lizann]

oh marlon what have you done

[ccahill2]

I am so mad at Marlon right now. Dylan is just a boy who kept his daughter safe and alive and who needs help. He's just a child!

I don't know why Ruby and Caleb are being so dumb with Steph. Just scream that terror beat me as a child (to keep the cover). You never noticed how terrified I was of him? I only allowed it because of you. I loved you enough to put up with it. I'm glad he's gone and I went for a walk in the woods because I keep reliving the terror that you brought back into my life.

[ccahill2]

I kind of like the idea of Steph bringing the police to Anthony's 'grave' and saying that her parents murdered him and buried him there.

And then the police exhume the body and find the skeleton of a sheep that Moira lost during a drought and take Steph away in a padded wagon for further evaluation.

[Son of Cain]

I kind of like the idea of Steph bringing the police to Anthony's 'grave' and saying that her parents murdered him and buried him there.

And then the police exhume the body and find the skeleton of a sheep that Moira lost during a drought and take Steph away in a padded wagon for further evaluation.

I am pretty sure there is nothing buried under that log, I do not think John could have moved it on his own after burying Anthony.

[Dennis tanner]

I am so mad at Marlon right now. Dylan is just a boy who kept his daughter safe and alive and who needs help. He's just a child!

I don't know why Ruby and Caleb are being so dumb with Steph. Just scream that terror beat me as a child (to keep the cover). You never noticed how terrified I was of him? I only allowed it because of you. I loved you enough to put up with it. I'm glad he's gone and I went for a walk in the woods because I keep reliving the terror that you brought back into my life.

I like it !!!!

[lizann]

steph with her posh grandad grandad grandad is tedious and annoying

[Son of Cain]

I wish Steph would find out the truth soon, so that I am not forced to watch any more of her impression of a dog with a bone. If Caleb and Ruby are not going to tell her, I will do so myself.

[Son of Cain]

Dear Steph

I am sorry to have to tell you this, but Caleb is not your father, Anthony is. Ruby and Caleb have been trying to stop you finding out to protect you, but you have insisted in wanting to know the truth, so there you are, now you know. I simply cannot stand watching any more of your selfish holier than thou antics.

Regards

Son of Cain.

[Dennis tanner]

Dear Steph

I am sorry to have to tell you this, but Caleb is not your father, Anthony is. Ruby and Caleb have been trying to stop you finding out to protect you, but you have insisted in wanting to know the truth, so there you are, now you know. I simply cannot stand watching any more of your selfish holier than thou antics.

Regards

Son of Cain.

In other words Stephanie. You can't handle the truth.

Incidently, why would she think that her parents have killed her grandfather. What would be the motive ?

[Son of Cain]

In other words Stephanie. You can't handle the truth.

Incidently, why would she think that her parents have killed her grandfather. What would be the motive ?

What else, but just to upset Steph?⁹

[ccahill2]

I'd love for her to become a suspect in his murder because her fingerprints were all over a gun found in their safe.

[lizann]

I'd love for her to become a suspect in his murder because her fingerprints were all over a gun found in their safe.

but the gun didn't kill him, he was beaten and suffocated

[Son of Cain]

I'd love for her to become a suspect in his murder because her fingerprints were all over a gun found in their safe.

But they would not be on the bullets, if it had been used to kill him.

[Perdita]

But they would not be on the bullets, if it had been used to kill him.

The bullets might have already been in the gun.....

[Son of Cain]

The bullets might have already been in the gun.....

Exactly, showing that Steph did not load it. When you buy or rent an illegal gun, the bullets are usually extra. It would be a pretty stupid criminal that handed a loaded gun to another criminal, who might just shot them to save paying for it.

[Dennis tanner]

Exactly, showing that zteph did not load it. When you buy or rent an illegal gun, the bullets are usually extra. It would be a pretty stupid criminal that handed a loaded gun to another criminal, who might just shot them to save paying for it.

All very true but this is Emmerdale !!!

[Son of Cain]

When someone throws a drink in your face, you should open your mouth and swallow as much as you can. - Free drink.

[lizann]

ross is great

[lizann]

good tough scenes with ruby steph and caleb, finally the truth out

i don't care about vanessa

[Dennis tanner]

ross is great

But not as great as Mandy

[Son of Cain]

I bet John rues the day he ever stopped in Emmerdale.

[lizann]

eric thinks Tracy is doing well in the shop and with the accounts so he has not coped the stolen missing money

[Dennis tanner]

eric thinks Tracy is doing well in the shop and with the accounts so he has not coped the stolen missing money

Bollard is no longer a financial genius

[Son of Cain]

If Caleb and Cain are missing several fingers next time we see them, it will be because they were using an angle grinder while wearing welding masks.

[Son of Cain]

Has Steph left or is she going to kill herself?

[Perdita]

Has Steph left or is she going to kill herself?

She has gone to Anthony's grave.... Caleb finds her and has a plan which we find out about in a week or so...

[ccahill2]

Parkinson's related dementia is horrible. I hope that this isn't a sign of the onset of that.

The actress playing Steph is doing a fabulous job and her scenes with Caleb have been very touching.

[Dennis tanner]

Parkinson's related dementia is horrible. I hope that this isn't a sign of the onset of that. Tracy has found a perfect victim in Eric


The actress playing Steph is doing a fabulous job and her scenes with Caleb have been very touching. But she has been very very annoying.

[Son of Cain]

She has gone to Anthony's grave.... Caleb finds her and has a plan which we find out about in a week or so...

I hope they are going to dig Anthony up, I am dying to know if he is actually is under that log.

[Perdita]

I hope they are going to dig Anthony up, I am dying to know if he is actually is under that log.

I find that hard to believe too...

[Dennis tanner]

I hope they are going to dig Anthony up, I am dying to know if he is actually is under that log.

Antonius dormies cum piscibus

[Son of Cain]

Antonius dormies cum piscibus

That being the case then he is definitely not under the log.

I knew my schoolboy Latin would come in handy someday

[Dennis tanner]

That being the case then he is definitely not under the log.

I knew my schoolboy Latin would come in handy someday

Some say he may not even be dead and I am not going to argue with them.

[ccahill2]

Well, I am supposing that Caleb is the other unsuspecting donor and this is why he's going to flatline.

But I've only been watching a year and a half. Are Caleb and Joe related? How?

[Son of Cain]

Well, I am supposing that Caleb is the other unsuspecting donor and this is why he's going to flatline.

But I've only been watching a year and a half. Are Caleb and Joe related? How?

Yes they are related. Caleb is the son of Frank Tate and Joe is the son of Chris Tate who was the son of Frank. I will leave you to work out how they are related.

[katie hunter]

With all the money that Joe has you would think he could buy a kidney elsewhere rather than go through all of this palaver.

I guess it explains the flashforward with Caleb but how does he know Caleb will be a match when Noah isn't.

[lizann]

Well, I am supposing that Caleb is the other unsuspecting donor and this is why he's going to flatline.

But I've only been watching a year and a half. Are Caleb and Joe related? How?

caleb is Joe's uncle , maybe Joe takes steph thinking she is his cousin through caleb

[Dennis tanner]

caleb is Joe's uncle , maybe Joe takes steph thinking she is his cousin through caleb

What a cad!!! What a bounder !!!

[lizann]

the flash forward of caleb crashing, arresting on the medical table will be because of joe

[ccahill2]

caleb is Joe's uncle , maybe Joe takes steph thinking she is his cousin through caleb

That would be such an awesome twist!!

[Son of Cain]

With all the money that Joe has you would think he could buy a kidney elsewhere rather than go through all of this palaver.

I guess it explains the flashforward with Caleb but how does he know Caleb will be a match when Noah isn't.

Am I understanding this correctly, were they going to remove Noah's kidney without knowing if he was a match. Or did they spike him just to check compatability? If they were only checking compatability did they need to take him into an operating room? Does this dodgy doctor have his own operating room, and is it hidden in the woods? Is the doctor going to operate on his own, without a nurse and anesthetist if so, seems incredibly risky? As you say with all his money there must be a safer option. If I say I find this a bit far fetched I am not exaggerating.

[johntrevor]

Am I understanding this correctly, were they going to remove Noah's kidney without knowing if he was a match. Or did they spike him just to check compatability? If they were only checking compatability did they need to take him into an operating room? Does this dodgy doctor have his own operating room, and is it hidden in the woods? Is the doctor going to operate on his own, without a nurse and anesthetist if so, seems incredibly risky? As you say with all his money there must be a safer option. If I say I find this a bit far fetched I am not exaggerating.

Just checking compatability, the doctor indicated Noah wasn't a match. I believe you need a blood relative to get a good match, this would make Caleb ideal as Frank Tate was the father of both Caleb and Joe's dad Chris Tate.

[Son of Cain]

Just checking compatability, the doctor indicated Noah wasn't a match. I believe you need a blood relative to get a good match, this would make Caleb ideal as Frank Tate was the father of both Caleb and Joe's dad Chris Tate.

Yes but the doctor said "we should check compatibility before getting him on the operating table".which seems to suggest they were prepared to go ahead with the operation if he was compatible. They ccould probably have checked compatibility in the pub toilet or any other quiet place. Not sure I would trust some doctor who checked then said "OK let's do it". Had Joe been "Nil by mouth" and undergone the usual checks before an operation.

[lizann]

With all the money that Joe has you would think he could buy a kidney elsewhere rather than go through all of this palaver.

I guess it explains the flashforward with Caleb but how does he know Caleb will be a match when Noah isn't.

he could afford many matching black market kidneys

[lizann]

Just checking compatability, the doctor indicated Noah wasn't a match. I believe you need a blood relative to get a good match, this would make Caleb ideal as Frank Tate was the father of both Caleb and Joe's dad Chris Tate.

i wonder did jamie test, as he is also frank's son

[Dennis tanner]

Joe should consider another option.....Dying.

[Son of Cain]

Joe looks far to fit and health to behaving kidney problems.

If he is having regular dialysis would he not have a pernament catheter fitted? Surely Dawn would notice this, or does he keep his shirt on in bed?

[Son of Cain]

Just when you think Sarah can not get any more stupid, she does. She meets a criminal, a good looking, charming, bad boy, of course, and she finds herself alone with him in the garage, where anything could happen. Then she embarks on a stealing spree with him, riding on stolen quad bikes on public roads. And when she gets caught, we will have to endure her telling us how she is bored and life is not fair.

[lizann]

Just when you think Sarah can not get any more stupid, she does. She meets a criminal, a good looking, charming, bad boy, of course, and she finds herself alone with him in the garage, where anything could happen. Then she embarks on a stealing spree with him, riding on stolen quad bikes on public roads. And when she gets caught, we will have to endure her telling us how she is bored and life is not fair.

sarah should be shipped off to debbie

[Dennis tanner]

sarah should be shipped off to debbie

She's just desperate for a boyfriend. It's very sad and disappointing.

How did Bad Joe know about Manpreet's on line antics ?

[Son of Cain]

[QUOTE=Dennis tanner;1031758

How did Bad Joe know about Manpreet's on line antics ?[/QUOTE]

Surfing on line during dialysis?

[lizann]

sarah a full mechanic who drives alone for call outs too, that was all quick, no studies or did cain train her

[Son of Cain]

sarah a full mechanic who drives alone for call outs too, that was all quick, no studies or did cain train her

Has she actually passed a driving test? I seemed to remember her driving fast with Charity in a hire car (?). Maybe for a birthday celebration, but I thought at that time she had not passed a test.

[lizann]

so joe saw manpreet profile on billys ipad

did john drug chas or is she herself?

[Dennis tanner]

Has she actually passed a driving test? I seemed to remember her driving fast with Charity in a hire car (?). Maybe for a birthday celebration, but I thought at that time she had not passed a test.

Sarah is a natural. Expert driver and mechanic with the minimum of training.

[Dennis tanner]

so joe saw manpreet profile on billys ipad

did john drug chas or is she herself?

How did Joe find her profile. Was she using her real name.? Doctor Manpreet Sharma ?

[Son of Cain]

How did Joe find her profile. Was she using her real name.? Doctor Manpreet Sharma ?

Did Billy leave it open on her page?

[lizann]

Did Billy leave it open on her page?

yes must have

[Son of Cain]

yes must have

Is Billy a bit of a perv?

[lizann]

Is Billy a bit of a perv?

he was talking on line as his relationship with dawn has gone stale as she is doing joe

[Son of Cain]

he was talking on line as his relationship with dawn has gone stale as she is doing joe

He was not just talking to her on-line, he was looking at her risque photos.

[lizann]

He was not just talking to her on-line, he was looking at her risque photos.

yes true

[Son of Cain]

Has Chas spiked herself accidentally, or deliberately on purpose to blame Ella?

[lizann]

Has Chas spiked herself accidentally, or deliberately on purpose to blame Ella?

either she did herself and now is pinning it on ella or John did

[thestud2k7]

Something is telling me that John did it

[Dennis tanner]

He was not just talking to her on-line, he was looking at her risque photos.
Isn't that why she posted them ?

[Son of Cain]

Isn't that why she posted them ?

I thought she posted them so Joe could find them and manipulate her to his will.

[Son of Cain]

For Joe's ridiculous plan to work Caleb will have disappear for ever. Perhaps be cut up into small pieces, find someone with a pet lion or tiger and fed to it. If it is just Joe who disappears, Caleb and the police are still going to put two and two together and work out what has happened when they know Caleb is minus a kidney. Joe would have to completely disappear and never comeback, abandoning all his businesses. I do not think they have really thought this through.

[johntrevor]

For Joe's ridiculous plan to work Caleb will have disappear for ever. Perhaps be cut up into small pieces, find someone with a pet lion or tiger and fed to it. If it is just Joe who disappears, Caleb and the police are still going to put two and two together and work out what has happened when they know Caleb is minus a kidney. Joe would have to completely disappear and never comeback, abandoning all his businesses. I do not think they have really thought this through.

Yes it's all gone very farcicle.

[johntrevor]

either she did herself and now is pinning it on ella or John did

Can't believe she did it to herself, to risky, if she hadn't been found she could have died.
I thought maybe John, to get her to think more highly of him after he saved her.

[Son of Cain]

Can't believe she did it to herself, to risky, if she hadn't been found she could have died.
I thought maybe John, to get her to think more highly of him after he saved her.

Observing Chas during the scenes after she was found in the bar, her behavior, posture and expressions seem to me to suggest that all is not as it seems. They seem to be drawing our attention to her. She looks like she acting as if she is guilty of something. Or maybe I am seeing something that is not there, and it is just bad acting.

[Perdita]

Sorry but Joe and Ella storylines are too boring for me to care what is going to happen to either

[Dennis tanner]

For Joe's ridiculous plan to work Caleb will have disappear for ever. Perhaps be cut up into small pieces, find someone with a pet lion or tiger and fed to it. If it is just Joe who disappears, Caleb and the police are still going to put two and two together and work out what has happened when they know Caleb is minus a kidney. Joe would have to completely disappear and never comeback, abandoning all his businesses. I do not think they have really thought this through.

Although I tend to agree with you, you may have been far too optimistic about the Hotton Police

[katie hunter]

Are the writers gearing up for a car accident caused by the unqualified mechanics that are working in the garage?

Joe and Dawn have all the chemistry of a wet paper bag.

[lizann]

ella deserves an apology if she ever returns, too many wagons in emmerdale don't get me started on dawn

[Dennis tanner]

Are the writers gearing up for a car accident caused by the unqualified mechanics that are working in the garage?

Joe and Dawn have all the chemistry of a wet paper bag.

Dawn is such a victim. Joe is a cad and a bounder

[Son of Cain]

Dawn is such a victim. Joe is a cad and a bounder

"A cad and a bounder" I love this phrase, and I love you for using it. You must be the only one who still uses it, you should get an award for preserving it. Well done.

[Son of Cain]

Is Joe suppose to be acting "cool", he is so cool he is frozen, reminds me of a dead fish.
Good to know that kidney failure doesn't affect your sex life.

[lizann]

Dawn is such a victim. Joe is a cad and a bounder

a victim of what? she made first move and is doing most chasing

[ccahill2]

I had an issue with Joe and felt he was a sociopath ever since he so coldly stood over Will's dying body and watched almost eagerly. He wouldn't have called for an ambulance if Kim hadn't shouted at him to. He has a depraved indifference to human life (except for his own), and has given me the chills ever since I first met him upon his return. I hadn't yet discovered this show last go round with the character.

Dawn is a fool. She's neither a victim nor being victimized. She's just going for the rush as much as any drug addict would, this time with sex, and she's going to blow her whole family apart.

[lizann]

yes sex with Joe, Dawn's new drug, needs her fix

[Son of Cain]

What happens when "Dodgy Doctor" holds out his hand and says "scalpel"?

[Son of Cain]

I had an issue with Joe and felt he was a sociopath ever since he so coldly stood over Will's dying body and watched almost eagerly. He wouldn't have called for an ambulance if Kim hadn't shouted at him to. He has a depraved indifference to human life (except for his own), and has given me the chills ever since I first met him upon his return. I hadn't yet discovered this show last go round with the character.

Dawn is a fool. She's neither a victim nor being victimized. She's just going for the rush as much as any drug addict would, this time with sex, and she's going to blow her whole family apart.

Dawn is a fool. But I think she is beginning to see herself as a victim of Joe's deceit, even though he said from the start he was not looking to fall in love with her. Will she now crawl back to Billy and hope he never finds out about her infidelities.

[katie hunter]

I'm in no way connected with the medical profession but I doubt it's possible to anethetise and remove someone's kidney single handedly 🤔

[Son of Cain]

I'm in no way connected with the medical profession but I doubt it's possible to anethetise and remove someone's kidney single handedly 🤔

All it takes is positive thinking.

[ccahill2]

Maybe he'll drop it between patients. Like, oops!

[lizann]

I'm in no way connected with the medical profession but I doubt it's possible to anethetise and remove someone's kidney single handedly ��

in what looks like a shed, a large garage or farm shed

[johntrevor]

in what looks like a shed, a large garage or farm shed

Although the "doctor" looked as though he had scrubbed up Joe was standing there in his ordinary clothes handing the "doctor " things to use and not even wearing gloves. Was any research done for this story, or was it cobbled together on the back of a fag packet?

[Son of Cain]

This story is just getting more and more ridiculous, everything is for untealistic drama. Joe a man who is supposed to be very rich, hires ONE man to kidnap Caleb. A man who does not even have his own knife. A man who asks if it can be traced back, it's a knife, mate, not a gun.
You do not send one man to kidnap a reasonable fit man, especially not a man with a knife. Spend some more money and get more men. If it is, only one man, you creep up behind them, hit them over the head, and bundle them into the boot. Or you get a gun and order them to obey you. Just when you think It cannot get any more silly, he nearly stabs him in the kidney. I have seen more sensible writing in a Carry On film.
!I would argue that if Joe is still fit and strong enough to lift the deadweight of a body heavier than his own into a car he does not need a kidney transplant.
Last and most important point, everybody knows that no surgeon can carry out an operation without a nurse with a cotton pad in a pair of forceps to dab the sweat from his brow.

[Son of Cain]

Although the "doctor" looked as though he had scrubbed up Joe was standing there in his ordinary clothes handing the "doctor " things to use and not even wearing gloves. Was any research done for this story, or was it cobbled together on the back of a fag packet?

With the skills that this doctor has, including being an anethetist, which is mandatory to have for surgery. I imagine he could be earning a fortune in private practice and have no need to get caught up in Joe 's dodgy dealings.

[johntrevor]

This story is just getting more and more ridiculous, everything is for untealistic drama. Joe a man who is supposed to be very rich, hires ONE man to kidnap Caleb. A man who does not even have his own knife. A man who asks if it can be traced back, it's a knife, mate, not a gun.
You do not send one man to kidnap a reasonable fit man, especially not a man with a knife. Spend some more money and get more men. If it is, only one man, you creep up behind them, hit them over the head, and bundle them into the boot. Or you get a gun and order them to obey you. Just when you think It cannot get any more silly, he nearly stabs him in the kidney. I have seen more sensible writing in a Carry On film.
!I would argue that if Joe is still fit and strong enough to lift the deadweight of a body heavier than his own into a car he does not need a kidney transplant.
Last and most important point, everybody knows that no surgeon can carry out an operation without a nurse with a cotton pad in a pair of forceps to dab the sweat from his brow.

Yes should have been renamed Carry on Dr Jekyll, Sid James would have been brilliant as the doctor and Kenneth Williams as Joe

[Son of Cain]

Yes should have been renamed Carry on Dr Jekyll, Sid James would have been brilliant as the doctor and Kenneth Williams as Joe

Pity Barbara Windsor is no longer with us, she could have played the part of the nurse who wipes the sweat from his brow.

[Son of Cain]

With all the medical hi jinks at the moment it is easy to overlook the other Carry On themed stories:


Carry On Spying, starring, Ross and Charity

Carry On Cruising, starring Brenda and Nicola

[lizann]

mack features less and less, more ross with charity

[Snagglepus]

If it is discovered that Joe has stolen Caleb's kidney, can he be made to give it back?

[lizann]

ross was good with steph when she was telling about anthony

[Dennis tanner]

If it is discovered that Joe has stolen Caleb's kidney, can he be made to give it back?

Good question and I doubt that caleb could get it back

[Son of Cain]

If it is discovered that Joe has stolen Caleb's kidney, can he be made to give it back?

Exactly the question I was going to ask. If I was Caleb I would insist he he does. Now that would make a very interesting story line. But I do not think I will hold my breath waiting for them to tackle it.

[Son of Cain]

How on earth did the police manage to arrest Knifey Shaun so quickly, did he give himself up ? How did Joe manage to hire such an idiot? None of that plan made any sense. Presumably the plan was not to actually stab Caleb, but when he did, why did he not throw him in the back of his car instead of doing a runner?

Are Joe and Caleb in the same hospital, or is Joe still in the private clinic? Even so, when the case of Caleb's stolen kidney makes it into the media, surely the clinic will put two and two together.

[johntrevor]

How on earth did the police manage to arrest Knifey Shaun so quickly, did he give himself up ? How did Joe manage to hire such an idiot? None of that plan made any sense. Presumably the plan was not to actually stab Caleb, but when he did, why did he not throw him in the back of his car instead of doing a runner?

Are Joe and Caleb in the same hospital, or is Joe still in the private clinic? Even so, when the case of Caleb's stolen kidney makes it into the media, surely the clinic will put two and two together.

Of course not, lol.....Then it will turn into Carry on Regardless, or Carry on Carrying On.

[lizann]

joe took caleb to what looked like a large shed, joe told kim and dawn he was gone chicago, i think as ross saw the doc with him, he will ask more on manpreet, let him with steph solve it fast

[ccahill2]

I didn't know Ross during his previous appearances, because I hadn't yet started to watch this show, but I am really liking his character. I like how he cares about April, and I absolutely loved how he managed Steph's confession yesterday. They are a cute couple and probably my favorite current couple.

I don't know why they are making Liam into this judgmental person, but I am not liking him very much with the way he's treated Ella. I've been hoping to like him and Chas, but I just think they bring out the worst in each other.

[ccahill2]

I am a little confused with the story. At first Crowley said that he couldn't take the damaged kidney from Caleb because if he harvested the healthy one, he would die.

But then he put it into Joe and said that the knife just missed hitting the kidney. So which is it? Does Joe have a now-damaged kidney inside of him (karma) or is it a healthy kidney?

I love the idea of them getting caught and the kidney given back to Caleb, but I don't know whether Joe's antibodies would have damaged it to the point where it would be harder for Caleb to get it back without anti-rejection drugs.

If they can't re-harvest it, I'm hoping that there is a rejection and Joe loses the kidney and sepsis then takes over.

I loved the fanfic that Joe takes Steph's kidney, thinking her to be Caleb's daughter, and then he dies.

[Snagglepus]

When Joe was coming round I thought/hoped he was going to discover he had had no surgery and the clinic was deserted.

[lizann]

i wonder will dawn see joe's kidney surgery wound when they having a bunk up again, she can't resist him

[Son of Cain]

i wonder will dawn see joe's kidney surgery wound when they having a bunk up again, she can't resist him

He better hope he can resist her.

[Son of Cain]

In this country surgeons are usually referred to as "Mr", but Crowley referred to himself as "Doctor Crowley". Is he not a real surgeon?

[Son of Cain]

I am a little confused with the story. At first Crowley said that he couldn't take the damaged kidney from Caleb because if he harvested the healthy one, he would die.

But then he put it into Joe and said that the knife just missed hitting the kidney. So which is it? Does Joe have a now-damaged kidney inside of him (karma) or is it a healthy kidney?

I love the idea of them getting caught and the kidney given back to Caleb, but I don't know whether Joe's antibodies would have damaged it to the point where it would be harder for Caleb to get it back without anti-rejection drugs.

If they can't re-harvest it, I'm hoping that there is a rejection and Joe loses the kidney and sepsis then takes over.

I loved the fanfic that Joe takes Steph's kidney, thinking her to be Caleb's daughter, and then he dies.

The kidney was not damaged. When Joe brought Caleb to him Crowley said he "could not rule out damage to the kidney". He said Caleb needed a blood transfusion. Later after he checked it out, he said the kidney was not damaged. So there was two undamaged kidneys, and now both Joe and Caleb have one kidney each, both undamaged.

[lizann]

april with her behaviour will give marlon another stroke, stroppy brat

[katie hunter]

I hope that is the last we see of Joe, although if he is gone I guess we can expect lots more 'Dawn mooning over Joe' scenes ��

And what was the point of Will and Joe trying to take down Kim?

[lizann]

ross will recognise the doc and get manpreet to spill , joe will pay

[Son of Cain]

ross will recognise the doc and get manpreet to spill , joe will pay

At the moment no one knows that Joe's has had a transplant, so no one is suspicious about anything, Manpreet has no reason to spill yet.

[Son of Cain]

I hope that is the last we see of Joe, although if he is gone I guess we can expect lots more 'Dawn mooning over Joe' scenes ��

And what was the point of Will and Joe trying to take down Kim?

I am beginning to think they are assuming the viewer has the memory of a gold fish. That some of these plots are written as stand alone stories, not connected to each other. It is like reading a book, you come to the end of a chapter, start a new chapter and it is from a different book. Maybe I have the memory of a gold fish as I had forgotten about Joe and Will trying to take down Kim, indeed I had forgotten about Will. Also forgotten about the financial guy, can't remember his name.
When you look back at some of the things that have happened here, that would never be forgiven or forgotten in real life, in Emmerdale it is like they never happened at all.

[Son of Cain]

April is right about one thing, security at the vets is terrible.

[katie hunter]

It's easy to do stupid things and push boundaries when you know that you have your father on a string.

Instead of tracking her, Marlon should be packing April's bags for her.

[ccahill2]

Now a phone tracker? Is Marlon the dumbest man alive?

I used to like him. Now he's doing 60-100 on self-destruct and will take his daughter down with him.

[Son of Cain]

Is it Ella who is sending these texts to Liam ?. I do not think so.

[ccahill2]

Is it Ella who is sending these texts to Liam ?. I do not think so.

Yet I'm somehow certain that he will blame her for them and go through a string of insults.

[Son of Cain]

Rocks strike again.

[Son of Cain]

I have to hold my hands up and admit I got it wrong about Ella not sending the emails, but I still think it would have made a better story if it wasn't her sending them.

[lizann]

so it really was ella , she was that obsessed with liam, a stupid exit

[johntrevor]

Rocks strike again.

Yes shouldn't the rock be in the cast list and paid more for all its guest appearances.

[johntrevor]

I have to hold my hands up and admit I got it wrong about Ella not sending the emails, but I still think it would have made a better story if it wasn't her sending them.

A bit confusing about the emails and the Chas spiking, she admitted them to Liam but then seemed to backtrack saying she only admitted doing them to get some sympathy

[Son of Cain]

Yes shouldn't the rock be in the cast list and paid more for all its guest appearances.

Listed as "The Rock" or under it's name "Rock Thudson", mind you I can see copyright problems with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.

[Son of Cain]

so it really was ella , she was that obsessed with liam, a stupid exit


A bit confusing about the emails and the Chas spiking, she admitted them to Liam but then seemed to backtrack saying she only admitted doing them to get some sympathy

Not explained very clearly, I suppose it depends whether this story is over now or not. Liam did seem to be looking thoughtful, maybe doubting that Ella did spike Chas, and that see is addicted.
The broken window was a bit weird, there seemed to be a lot of glass outside as if the window was broken from the inside. What is on the inside of that window, it cannot be the bar, can it? Maybe I am seeing something that isnot there, or was it just badly filmed.

[lizann]

Not explained very clearly, I suppose it depends whether this story is over now or not. Liam did seem to be looking thoughtful, maybe doubting that Ella did spike Chas, and that see is addicted.
The broken window was a bit weird, there seemed to be a lot of glass outside as if the window was broken from the inside. What is on the inside of that window, it cannot be the bar, can it? Maybe I am seeing something that isnot there, or was it just badly filmed.

was it an upstairs window?

[Son of Cain]

so it really was ella , she was that obsessed with liam, a stupid exit


A bit confusing about the emails and the Chas spiking, she admitted them to Liam but then seemed to backtrack saying she only admitted doing them to get some sympathy


was it an upstairs window?

I think it was a downstairs window.

[Son of Cain]

Has Brenda left for good or is she coming back ? The way they filmed her goodbyes seemed like she was not coming back. Is she going to fall overboard or stay in Toronto?

[lizann]

Has Brenda left for good or is she coming back ? The way they filmed her goodbyes seemed like she was not coming back. Is she going to fall overboard or stay in Toronto?

gone for good for now, no cruise return

[Son of Cain]

gone for good for now, no cruise return

What about Kathy?

[Perdita]

What about Kathy?

The actress is doing A level exams so she is having a break but will be back

[lizann]

What about Kathy?

cathy will return

[lizann]

sarah turning into an ungrateful brat like april

poor rodney locked in a van and up dawns crack

[katie hunter]

Are the writers trying to turn Sarah into Debbie #2? :wall:

If Gabby stopped palming her child off she wouldn't have to worry about him coming to any harm. Can't see her lasting very long at the Dingles.

[lizann]

vinny and gabby could afford to buy or rent, vinny loaded from liv

[Son of Cain]

Are the writers trying to turn Sarah into Debbie #2? :wall:

If Gabby stopped palming her child off she wouldn't have to worry about him coming to any harm. Can't see her lasting very long at the Dingles.

Don't know what Gabby was making a fuss about, the gun was in a case and very unlikely to be loaded. There was lots of things in the kitchen that could be harmful, like knives, an electric toaster, plugged in, and probably a kettle somewhere.

[Son of Cain]

So; is Sarah of the hook for robbing Rodney and locking him in the van?

[johntrevor]

So; is Sarah of the hook for robbing Rodney and locking him in the van?

Didn't Rodney say he would drop the charges?

[Son of Cain]

Didn't Rodney say he would drop the charges?

He did, but the police had her bang to rights with the stolen goods. In the real world I do not think you can drop the charges like that, I think it is up to the police and the CPS if they decide to proceed

In fact I think they could seize and confiscate Cain's car, as it was used in a crime.

[lizann]

where did jacob get the donuts?

[Snagglepus]

Was that Justin (Corrie) in the hospital bed?

[lizann]

Was that Justin (Corrie) in the hospital bed?

Looked like Mack to me but likely the real john or aiden Moore

[tammyy2j]

He did, but the police had her bang to rights with the stolen goods. In the real world I do not think you can drop the charges like that, I think it is up to the police and the CPS if they decide to proceed

In fact I think they could seize and confiscate Cain's car, as it was used in a crime.

She was released on bail, Cain won't press charges on the car being taken and Rodney was dropping the charges but can the police still press charges?

[Dennis tanner]

He did, but the police had her bang to rights with the stolen goods. In the real world I do not think you can drop the charges like that, I think it is up to the police and the CPS if they decide to proceed

In fact I think they could seize and confiscate Cain's car, as it was used in a crime.

Correct. The owners of the stolen property should have their say. Sarah is getting away with too much

[lizann]

is emmerdale haulage part of calebs logistics warehouse and he bought from will

[Son of Cain]

She was released on bail, Cain won't press charges on the car being taken and Rodney was dropping the charges but can the police still press charges?

Yes, I believe they can, Rodney did not actually drop the charges, he withdrew his statement, which would make it difficult for the police in court. But he could be sobpoenaed, and if he still refused to give evidence charged with contempt of court. So he could end up in jail even if Sarah did not.

[Son of Cain]

where did jacob get the donuts?

Magic?

[Perdita]

So professional doctor Liam thinks it is ok to hold a disciplinary interview in a restaurant where the sister of the person to be admonished works and is listening in.....:wall::nono:

[Son of Cain]

I don't remember a bridge near where the limo crashed.

[katie hunter]

The Dingles rattling off all the names of the people that John has saved and it occurs to no one that it's the slightest bit odd.

Did John keep Nates phone?

Only Gabby would negotiate a new bathroom when she is being given a house for free. She really is her mother's daughter.

Poor drunk acting tonight.

[Dennis tanner]

The Dingles rattling off all the names of the people that John has saved and it occurs to no one that it's the slightest bit odd.

Did John keep Nates phone?

Only Gabby would negotiate a new bathroom when she is being given a house for free. She really is her mother's daughter.

Poor drunk acting tonight.

Don't like Gabby. Did Vanessa pay for all that wine ? Did she flush the toilet ?

[lizann]

why did john inject nate, he was bad banged up from cain beating him so he would still be saving him, feeding his saving hero complex ego

[lizann]

The Dingles rattling off all the names of the people that John has saved and it occurs to no one that it's the slightest bit odd.

Did John keep Nates phone?

Only Gabby would negotiate a new bathroom when she is being given a house for free. She really is her mother's daughter.

Poor drunk acting tonight.

vanessa is a dull boring character and awful actress, on the show as married to a producer

i thought liam looked somewhat suspicious, then thought maybe charity as she made a joke but it was a different joke

[Dennis tanner]

why did john inject nate, he was bad banged up from cain beating him so he would still be saving him, feeding his saving hero complex ego

Looks like Nate's death was a mistake

[Son of Cain]

Looks like Nate's death was a mistake

I am completely baffled and confused now by all these flash backs. I cannot remember how John became involved with Nate. Did John start the fire in the barn, or did he just happen to be on the scene to rescue Ruby?

[Perdita]

I am completely baffled and confused now by all these flash backs. I cannot remember how John became involved with Nate. Did John start the fire in the barn, or did he just happen to be on the scene to rescue Ruby?

Moira started the fire, I think, because she had the vision of Emma and was fighting with Ruby, part of the brain tumor storyline, I am sure. Cain had given Nate a hiding and John was just there, cannot remember why. But he was able to be a hero when he saved Moira and Ruby. He must have come across Nate and was giving him medication but something went wrong and Nate died, that was an accident, not on purpose. But now we know how he ended up in the lake.

[ccahill2]

I still don't understand how if John was trying to help Nate, why would he give an injection in the neck and not intramuscularly or through a vein? I never see that on emergency shows.

[Son of Cain]

vanessa is a dull boring character and awful actress, on the show as married to a producer

i thought liam looked somewhat suspicious, then thought maybe charity as she made a joke but it was a different joke

There was other ocassions when Liam 's facial expressions seemed to be suggesting he was suspicious or doubting something, same with Chas when they were discussing who had spiked her. Not sure if this was bad acting, bad direction, or done to throw us off the scent, or just to confuse us.

[Son of Cain]

I still don't understand how if John was trying to help Nate, why would he give an injection in the neck and not intramuscularly or through a vein? I never see that on emergency shows.

You usually only see an injected in the neck when someone is up to no good.

[Perdita]

I still don't understand how if John was trying to help Nate, why would he give an injection in the neck and not intramuscularly or through a vein? I never see that on emergency shows.

Sometimes pain medication is given into the neck, usually quick and possibly short term pain relief. John must have got the dosage wrong..

[lizann]

Moira started the fire, I think, because she had the vision of Emma and was fighting with Ruby, part of the brain tumor storyline, I am sure. Cain had given Nate a hiding and John was just there, cannot remember why. But he was able to be a hero when he saved Moira and Ruby. He must have come across Nate and was giving him medication but something went wrong and Nate died, that was an accident, not on purpose. But now we know how he ended up in the lake.

wasn't john working on the farm with nate and mack? cains bashing of nate could also have contributed to his death

[Perdita]

wasn't john working on the farm with nate and mack? cains bashing of nate could also have contributed to his death

I cannot remember, Nate did not want help from John, was not happy about getting meds... guess only an autopsy will now establish cause of death

[johntrevor]

So all the troubles Chas suffered were down to John, not sure why he was doing it.

[Perdita]

So all the troubles Chas suffered were down to John, not sure why he was doing it.


Munchausen Hero Homicide (MHH) is a condition where the sufferer attempts to harm others so that they can later come to the rescue and save that person from the dangerous situation they created... so they can be a hero! I imagine it is down to PTSD from his Army days..

[lizann]

joe returns healthy already from dubai

[Son of Cain]

joe returns healthy already from dubai

He seems to have recovered quicker than Caleb, I would have though the opposite would be true, that one who received the kidney would take longer to heal.

[lizann]

when kim told joe leave, did he leave or go upstairs

[ccahill2]

He said that he has no intention of going anywhere and walked deeper into the house.

[Dennis tanner]

when kim told joe leave, did he leave or go upstairs

He went upstairs and assumes that Kim cannot force him out

[Son of Cain]

I really do not think Joe is stupid enough to run the risk of Caleb finding out he took his kidney, that he would come back for Dawn. It never seemed to me that he loved Dawn, more that he was just exerting power over her, for his own amusement. He certainly does not seem like the fatherly type, or does he think that Dawn will leave the children with Billy.

[lizann]

I really do not think Joe is stupid enough to run the risk of Caleb finding out he took his kidney, that he would come back for dawn. It never seemed to me that he loved Dawn, more that he was just exerting power over her, for his own amusement. He certainly does not seem like the fatherly type, or does he think that Dawn will leave the children with Billy.

Emmerdale seem to be pushing a great love between Dawn and Joe, i thought it was just sex , Joe and Steph would be interesting as he thinks they are cousins and another love triangle with Ross

[lizann]

joe wants to get to know uncle caleb after gazing at ruby's ass, does he wants caleb's wife since he has his kidney

[katie hunter]

Did Joe really nip over to Chicago for a city break? No post op recovery required apparently. And now he's back to claim Dawn and be a family with her kids - has he even met them?

[ccahill2]

Joe seemed to need clarification, because he hoped that Steph could be a backup in case Caleb's kidney failed. That's how I took it.

Jai needs to be slapped around. I used to like his extended family but now they're all gone and this whiney misery is left.

[lizann]

Did Joe really nip over to Chicago for a city break? No post op recovery required apparently. And now he's back to claim Dawn and be a family with her kids - has he even met them?

i thought he was in shed weird make shift hospital and then dubai

[Son of Cain]

I wander if Anthony is keeping Nate company.!

[lizann]

why did caleb tell joe anything, he knew nothing

Dawn putting Gabby off Vinny so to pair her with Billy so she can have joe guilt free

[lizann]

i thought caleb or steph would see Joe's tablets as he would be on similar

dawn really don't care about her kids, joe has no paternal bone in his body

[Son of Cain]

i thought caleb or steph would see Joe's tablets as he would be on similar

dawn really don't care about her kids, joe has no paternal bone in his body

Caleb probably taking anti-biotics and painkillers, joe would also be taking anti-rejection drugs as well, so if it was those, and they googled them it might start them thinking.

I am beginning to wonder if Joe is using Dawn in some way to get at Kim.

[Son of Cain]

Is Joe going to need another kidney now after Caleb gave him a beating?

[katie hunter]

Why did Caleb agree not to call the police? Joe had no proof whatsoever.

Joe said he loved Debbie and he left her high and dry. I'm not convinced he really gives a toss about Dawn either and now she's thrown away everything - except Kim's handouts of course.

[lizann]

dawn deserves to lose everything, kim should not cover for dawn and joe, kick them out of home farm and victoria is annoying as best man woman planner

[ccahill2]

I wish that Caleb sent John to 'heal' Joe. That one would be so well deserved.

[ccahill2]

I kind of relish the idea of the stabbing introducing tetanus spores into Caleb, and some of those cells were transferred to Joe who is anti-vax. How ironic would it be for him to gain a kidney and then die of tetanus from the knife wound.

[johntrevor]

I thought the latest episode was quite a good one, Caleb going all Rambo on Joe. About time someone treated Joe to a good pasting. Can Emmerdale now get Billy next to do the same thing ?

[Perdita]

I thought the latest episode was quite a good one, Caleb going all Rambo on Joe. About time someone treated Joe to a good pasting. Can Emmerdale now get Billy next to do the same thing ?

The problem I have is believing the way Caleb attacked him and especially the surgery wound that Joe is still alive .... but yes, this is soapland

[lizann]

The problem I have is believing the way Caleb attacked him and especially the surgery wound that Joe is still alive .... but yes, this is soapland

yes he was bleeding, stitches burst and no mention of seeing a doctor

[tammyy2j]

With Dr Crowley gone who will see to Joe and write his prescriptions, Manpreet or Liam or a private clinic doctor

Dawn gets more deluded every episode, she really thinks herself and Joe can live happy ever after in their fairy tale

I have no interest in Kammy Sarah and Jacob

[Perdita]

I thought the latest episode was quite a good one, Caleb going all Rambo on Joe. About time someone treated Joe to a good pasting. Can Emmerdale now get Billy next to do the same thing ?

Billy will but it will be Ross, he thinks Ross and Dawn are an item

[johntrevor]

Billy will but it will be Ross, he thinks Ross and Dawn are an item

I could live with Ross first and then Billy followed by Cain finishing him off for Caleb..lol

[lizann]

I could live with Ross first and then Billy followed by Cain finishing him off for Caleb..lol

ruby or charity could do more than cain and caleb

[Son of Cain]

Why does Victoria never listen why people ask her not to do something. She always thinks she knows better, if she carries on like this, she might end up getting murdered.

[Son of Cain]

If I had stolen someone's kidney I would not be doing things to wind them up. He talks about it with about the same level of emotion as he would if he had eaten Caleb's Easter egg without asking him.

[lizann]

dawn is realising, the kids might want billy over her and joe, clemmie will catch them out I think

[Snagglepus]

I thought Ross' acting was superb tonight, waiting for his date at the Hide. I had to rewatch a few times. His facial expressions were perfect.

[Dennis tanner]

I thought Ross' acting was superb tonight, waiting for his date at the Hide. I had to rewatch a few times. His facial expressions were perfect.

Ross is becoming likeable

[katie hunter]

A field in exchange for a kidney? Why on earth isn't Caleb calling the Police, there is no proof that they killed Anthony.

They paid Ella so obviously there is a budget for a receptionist. Liam asking John to be the receptionist makes no sense, unless it's a plot device of course

[Son of Cain]

A field in exchange for a kidney? Why on earth isn't Caleb calling the Police, there is no proof that they killed Anthony.

They paid Ella so obviously there is a budget for a receptionist. Liam asking John to be the receptionist makes no sense, unless it's a plot device of course

They say "The first casualty of war is the truth" equally "The first casualty of Soap drama is credability". None of these stories is in any way believable. Why does Kim protect Joe, are they still in business together? Joe does not seem to acknowledge he has done anything wrong, and everyone should just accept the situation and move on. Kim seems to view it as a business transaction, which can be settled if the price is right. If I was her, I would throw him out on his sorry ass, all the time he stays at Home Farm he implicates her in his crimes, she is assisting an offender. Why would Joe break in to the warehouse, just because he can. If I was Caleb I would be going to court to get my kidney back.

What would happened if Ella had not left? As you say, definitely a plot device, to lead to John doing something extreme.

[tammyy2j]

A field in exchange for a kidney? Why on earth isn't Caleb calling the Police, there is no proof that they killed Anthony.

They paid Ella so obviously there is a budget for a receptionist. Liam asking John to be the receptionist makes no sense, unless it's a plot device of course

Wendy is also gone from the practice

[Perdita]

Wendy is also gone from the practice

But they do not have many patients....:hmm:

[lizann]

But they do not have many patients....:hmm:

surely joe and caleb are being checked and with all the knocks liam gets he is a top patient for himself

[Son of Cain]

Sammy says he does not have a flash car, his car looked pretty flashy to me.

[lizann]

kim should kick out dawn , they had no issue watching billy tell the kids and blame himself, billy was the only one who believed kim over rose

[katie hunter]

Mack has just put a huge target on his back. Could this be connected to that flashforward with him running in the woods?

Was John cleaning his van to remove evidence?

I hope Billy takes appropriate revenge on Dawn when the truth comes out.

[Son of Cain]

Mack has just put a huge target on his back. Could this be connected to that flashforward with him running in the woods?

Was John cleaning his van to remove evidence?

I hope Billy takes appropriate revenge on Dawn when the truth comes out.

I do not recall seeing these flashforwards, did I doze off or miss an episode?

[Perdita]

I do not recall seeing these flashforwards, did I doze off or miss an episode?
They were shown quite frequently....https://www.google.com/search?q=emmerdale+flashforwards++with+Mackenzie+r unning+through+woods&sca_esv=6b1587b7afa647cb&sxsrf=AHTn8zrX977DuJUALax0OSYCrwAEFKMfnw%3A1745487 703207&ei=VwcKaLe3DIeMxc8Pv56BoAw&ved=0ahUKEwj3vom0sPCMAxUHRvEDHT9PAMQQ4dUDCBM&uact=5&oq=emmerdale+flashforwards++with+Mackenzie+running +through+woods&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiPWVtbWVyZGFsZSBmbGFzaGZv cndhcmRzICB3aXRoIE1hY2tlbnppZSBydW5uaW5nIHRocm91Z2 ggd29vZHMyBxAhGKABGAoyBxAhGKABGAoyBxAhGKABGApI6lVQ xAJY-FRwAXgAkAEBmAGjAqAB8z-qAQYwLjUyLjO4AQPIAQD4AQGYAjOgAsw5wgILEAAYgAQYsAMYo gTCAgQQIxgnwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAgYQABgWGB7CAgsQABiABBi GAxiKBcICBhAhGBUYCpgDAIgGAZAGBJIHBjEuNDkuMaAH3aQCs gcGMC40OS4xuAfGOQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:9a7628ab,vid:n18Uc1rfg2M,st:0

[Son of Cain]

They were shown quite frequently....https://www.google.com/search?q=emmerdale+flashforwards++with+Mackenzie+r unning+through+woods&sca_esv=6b1587b7afa647cb&sxsrf=AHTn8zrX977DuJUALax0OSYCrwAEFKMfnw%3A1745487 703207&ei=VwcKaLe3DIeMxc8Pv56BoAw&ved=0ahUKEwj3vom0sPCMAxUHRvEDHT9PAMQQ4dUDCBM&uact=5&oq=emmerdale+flashforwards++with+Mackenzie+running +through+woods&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiPWVtbWVyZGFsZSBmbGFzaGZv cndhcmRzICB3aXRoIE1hY2tlbnppZSBydW5uaW5nIHRocm91Z2 ggd29vZHMyBxAhGKABGAoyBxAhGKABGAoyBxAhGKABGApI6lVQ xAJY-FRwAXgAkAEBmAGjAqAB8z-qAQYwLjUyLjO4AQPIAQD4AQGYAjOgAsw5wgILEAAYgAQYsAMYo gTCAgQQIxgnwgIIEAAYgAQYogTCAgYQABgWGB7CAgsQABiABBi GAxiKBcICBhAhGBUYCpgDAIgGAZAGBJIHBjEuNDkuMaAH3aQCs gcGMC40OS4xuAfGOQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:9a7628ab,vid:n18Uc1rfg2M,st:0

Must be dozing off more than I realized. Altho I am usually eating while watching, maybe spending too much time looking at my plate.

[lizann]

so billy took kim up on her holiday cottage offer

[Perdita]

Mackenzie better watch out!! :ninja:

[johntrevor]

Mackenzie better watch out!! :ninja:

Could he be next in line for an "accidental" killing by John

[Perdita]

Could he be next in line for an "accidental" killing by John

Yes, but this time it will not be accidental ;)

[Son of Cain]

Has Sarah locking Rodney in the van and stealing stuff been forgiven and forgotten?

[ccahill2]

Poor Ella is still being treated like a punching bag and she's not even on the show anymore. She seems to live rent free in Liam and Chas' heads.

[Dennis tanner]

Has Sarah locking Rodney in the van and stealing stuff been forgiven and forgotten?

Of course. She's not a well girl.

[Son of Cain]

Sarah is nineteen and an immature nineteen at that, desperate to get pregnant, but neither Manpreet or Vanessa are pointing her young age out to her. She is a spoiled brat and unlikely to cope with raising achild on her own, I suppose she is depending on Charity to help her. She is constantly talking about how she may not have long to live. What if she has a child and dies soon after who will look after the child. She is being rather selling.

[lizann]

charity should ship sarah back to debbie

[lizann]

tracy will spend on nate's card and be first suspect in his murder when finally his body uncovered

nate lived at marlons but card came to tracys or not even to "shetland" his new home

[Son of Cain]

tracy will spend on nate's card and be first suspect in his murder when finally his body uncovered

nate lived at marlons but card came to tracys or not even to "shetland" his new home

Nate did live with Tracey, so perhaps never informed bank of change of address. If Tracey does use the card, did she not learn anything from stealing from Eric?

[thestud2k7]

Just had a thought you know in that flash forward we saw cain at a graveside what if it’s Nate’s?

[lizann]

Just had a thought you know in that flash forward we saw cain at a graveside what if it’s Nate’s?

possibly but why would kara allow him to be buried there unless she is being erased, dropped same as Alicia and Justin as jakeys parents

[Son of Cain]

Are we meant to be sympathetic to Steph, personally I find it quite difficult to do so. There seems to be a trend to make soap characters unlikeable, and then expect us to feel sorry for them, when they fall on hard times. I had forgotten Gail existed, but tonight I realized her and Ryan are two of the few characters I still like.

[ccahill2]

I don't think I ever enjoyed Claudette as much as I did today. She's always been so serious since I started watching, but she has really brilliant comedic timing.

[lizann]

as i like ross i actually don't mind the steph storyline but why was joe helping ross look for steph, get info intel for kim or just avoid dawn in hospital with evan