Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[Son of Cain]

I'm not really sure where this is heading? If Kyle tells the truth what could happen to him? Surely he is too young to go to prison?

Age of criminal responsibility is ten, so he would have to face some sort of court. It would depend whether he shot Al on purpose or the gun went off by accident. At best social services would get involved.

[Dennis tanner]

I'm not really sure where this is heading? If Kyle tells the truth what could happen to him? Surely he is too young to go to prison?

At 10 years old he is just about criminally liable.

[Dennis tanner]

hope a flashback will show self defence of cain by kyle, accidental al death

Juries don't get to see flashbacks. I agree with all you say however.

I have no idea why Cain pleaded guilty to murder. A manslaughter charge would have been acceptable instead of a long trial and still kept Kyle out of it

[Son of Cain]

At 10 years old he is just about criminally liable.

In the eyes of the law, I don't think there is a "just about", he will be 11 in a month.

[hward]

Ok so maybe I've watched too much Silent Witness, but surely the police would still have forensics take a look at the gun and Cain's clothes which would determine pretty much straight away by the pattern of the gunshot residue that Cain was not the one who held the trigger.

Even though they've got the ever so reliable Kerry as an eyewitness and his prints on the gun, considering that Cain was giving them zero information in interviews they would need to gather as much evidence as possible to build a strong case against him. (I won't even get into how an eleven year old would have struggled with that kind of gun and had a pretty impressive bruise from the recoil...)

Can't help but think that at least PC Plod, I mean Craig, would do more digging than that.

[Son of Cain]

Ok so maybe I've watched too much Silent Witness, but surely the police would still have forensics take a look at the gun and Cain's clothes which would determine pretty much straight away by the pattern of the gunshot residue that Cain was not the one who held the trigger.

Even though they've got the ever so reliable Kerry as an eyewitness and his prints on the gun, considering that Cain was giving them zero information in interviews they would need to gather as much evidence as possible to build a strong case against him. (I won't even get into how an eleven year old would have struggled with that kind of gun and had a pretty impressive bruise from the recoil...)

Can't help but think that at least PC Plod, I mean Craig, would do more digging than that.

I agree that Kyle would have trouble handling a gun that size and weight, as I said in an earlier post, but the lack of bruising would be explained if be held the gun at his hip. There would be no need to put it to his shoulder to aim at that close distance. Al's wound showed that shot had not spread, so he must have been a few feet any at the time. The police may have gathered evidence but when Cain pled guilty none of the evidence would ever be heard. Not sure if the gunshot residue from a shotgun would be the same from a shotgun as it would be from a handgun, as the muzzle is a greater distance from to person firing the gun. The whole story is implausible, but the police have been trying to get something on Cain for ages, so maybe they took this chance to finally nail him, and thought it is not their job to prove him innocent.

[Perdita]

I agree that Kyle would have trouble handling a gun that size and weight, as I said in an earlier post, but the lack of bruising would be explained if be held the gun at his hip. There would be no need to put it to his shoulder to aim at that close distance. Al's wound showed that shot had not spread, so he must have been a few feet any at the time. The police may have gathered evidence but when Cain pled guilty none of the evidence would ever be heard. Not sure if the gunshot residue from a shotgun would be the same from a shotgun as it would be from a handgun, as the muzzle is a greater distance from to person firing the gun. The whole story is implausible, but the police have been trying to get something on Cain for ages, so maybe they took this chance to finally nail him, and thought it is not their job to prove him innocent.

Jeff Hordley has said in an interview that this storyline has many twists and turns so this will not be the end of it, they will probably charge him with perverting the course of justice when the truth comes out but I cannot see him doing time for murder...

[johntrevor]

I agree that Kyle would have trouble handling a gun that size and weight, as I said in an earlier post, but the lack of bruising would be explained if be held the gun at his hip. There would be no need to put it to his shoulder to aim at that close distance. Al's wound showed that shot had not spread, so he must have been a few feet any at the time. The police may have gathered evidence but when Cain pled guilty none of the evidence would ever be heard. Not sure if the gunshot residue from a shotgun would be the same from a shotgun as it would be from a handgun, as the muzzle is a greater distance from to person firing the gun. The whole story is implausible, but the police have been trying to get something on Cain for ages, so maybe they took this chance to finally nail him, and thought it is not their job to prove him innocent.

I said a while ago I thought Cain was covering for someone and I believed it was Kyle. Cain took the gun to get the attention of Al, so he could beat him up. He admitted he had no intention of using it. As you rightly said, if Cain and Al struggled for the gun and it went off, there is no way it would have hit him fair and square in the middle of his chest. It looked more like Kyle came in picked up the gun, the pair stopped fighting turned to face Kyle, and the gun went off, hitting Al in the chest.

[johntrevor]

Jeff Hordley has said in an interview that this storyline has many twists and turns so this will not be the end of it, they will probably charge him with perverting the course of justice when the truth comes out but I cannot see him doing time for murder...

My thoughts exactly

[Dennis tanner]

Ok so maybe I've watched too much Silent Witness, but surely the police would still have forensics take a look at the gun and Cain's clothes which would determine pretty much straight away by the pattern of the gunshot residue that Cain was not the one who held the trigger.

Even though they've got the ever so reliable Kerry as an eyewitness and his prints on the gun, considering that Cain was giving them zero information in interviews they would need to gather as much evidence as possible to build a strong case against him. (I won't even get into how an eleven year old would have struggled with that kind of gun and had a pretty impressive bruise from the recoil...)

Can't help but think that at least PC Plod, I mean Craig, would do more digging than that.

But Craigy is a Big City High Flyer. The only decent cop in Hotton is The Swirl.

[Son of Cain]

I am wondering if they are toying with replacing the child actor who plays Kyle. When the truth comes out he could be sent to a young offenders unit for a while and come back with a new head.

[hward]

I agree that Kyle would have trouble handling a gun that size and weight, as I said in an earlier post, but the lack of bruising would be explained if be held the gun at his hip. There would be no need to put it to his shoulder to aim at that close distance. Al's wound showed that shot had not spread, so he must have been a few feet any at the time. The police may have gathered evidence but when Cain pled guilty none of the evidence would ever be heard. Not sure if the gunshot residue from a shotgun would be the same from a shotgun as it would be from a handgun, as the muzzle is a greater distance from to person firing the gun. The whole story is implausible, but the police have been trying to get something on Cain for ages, so maybe they took this chance to finally nail him, and thought it is not their job to prove him innocent.

No one knew how Cain was going to plead until the day though. The forensics evidence would still need to be gathered to determine if they have enough to charge him.

[Son of Cain]

Bit of hypocrisy with Kerry and Amy, they could very easily be in the same position as Cain finds himself in. At least Cain was trying to protect his son (Amy's son), the dreadful mother and daughter were stealing cash.

[Son of Cain]

No one knew how Cain was going to plead until the day though. The forensics evidence would still need to be gathered to determine if they have enough to charge him.

I think what mostly went against Cain was Kerry's evidence and that she saw him wiping the gun. It is a sort of rite of passage for a Dingle to be banged up for something they did not do, or did do. The fact that he did not offer any explanation or defense definitely did not help. Soap police are not known for their brains, the first person they speak to is often the prime suspect, so no need to investigate much further.

It is only a matter of time before Kyle tells someone he did it, he has already tried to tell Moira something, and she in true soap fashion was to busy to listen to him. I reckon Cain will be out by Christmas.

[Dennis tanner]

I think what mostly went against Cain was Kerry's evidence and that she saw him wiping the gun. It is a sort of rite of passage for a Dingle to be banged up for something they did not do, or did do. The fact that he did not offer any explanation or defense definitely did not help. Soap police are not known for their brains, the first person they speak to is often the prime suspect, so no need to investigate much further.

It is only a matter of time before Kyle tells someone he did it, he has already tried to tell Moira something, and she in true fashion was to busy to listen to him. I reckon Cain will be out by Christmas.

I thought that Cain's initial explanation was that he arrived in the barn after the shooting and that he picked up the gun instinctively. We know it's a lie, but why not stick to it.

[johntrevor]

I think what mostly went against Cain was Kerry's evidence and that she saw him wiping the gun. It is a sort of rite of passage for a Dingle to be banged up for something they did not do, or did do. The fact that he did not offer any explanation or defense definitely did not help. Soap police are not known for their brains, the first person they speak to is often the prime suspect, so no need to investigate much further.

It is only a matter of time before Kyle tells someone he did it, he has already tried to tell Moira something, and she in true fashion was to busy to listen to him. I reckon Cain will be out by Christmas.

Kyle very nearly told Amy as well on the night Cain told Moira when she visited him.

[johntrevor]

I thought that Cain's initial explanation was that he arrived in the barn after the shooting and that he picked up the gun instinctively. We know it's a lie, but why not stick to it.

Yes that is what he said. But we saw him feverishly wiping the gun down well before Kerry got there. Why?? He also told the police he picked it up to put the safety catch on. So why bother wiping his prints off? He was wiping off any evidence of Kyle's fingerprints.

[Dennis tanner]

Yes that is what he said. But we saw him feverishly wiping the gun down well before Kerry got there. Why?? He also told the police he picked it up to put the safety catch on. So why bother wiping his prints off? He was wiping off any evidence of Kyle's fingerprints.

I assume he told Kyle to go straight home. Why didn't he go with him ?

[hward]

Kyle very nearly told Amy as well on the night Cain told Moira when she visited him.

I wonder if Kyle will tell her. At least that's where it seemed like it might be heading on Friday

[Son of Cain]

Yes that is what he said. But we saw him feverishly wiping the gun down well before Kerry got there. Why?? He also told the police he picked it up to put the safety catch on. So why bother wiping his prints off? He was wiping off any evidence of Kyle's fingerprints.

The fact he was wiping fingerprints off the gun would be evidence against him and sort of contradicted his statement of finding the gun on the floor of the barn. If he had stopped for a minute to think he could have justified Kyles prints on the gun as he also lives in the house where the gun was kept. What would be harder to explain his how the gun was found in the barn in the first place, as it should be kept in a locked cabinet when not in use.

[Dennis tanner]

The fact he was wiping fingerprints off the gun would be evidence against him and sort of contradicted his statement of finding the gun on the floor of the barn. If he had stopped for a minute to think he could have justified Kyles prints on the gun as he also lives in the house where the gun was kept. What would be harder to explain his how the gun was found in the barn in the first place, as it should be kept in a locked cabinet when not in use.

You are correct but if the Dingles have a locked cabinet, I'm Elsie Tanner.

[lizann]

I assume he told Kyle to go straight home. Why didn't he go with him ?

he was doing a scene clean up, may have moved the body only for kerry coming along

[Son of Cain]

You are correct but if the Dingles have a locked cabinet, I'm Elsie Tanner.

Hello Elsie

I think the police have to come and see the locked cabinet before they give you the licence. Since the gun was registered to Moira, I think she is more responsible than the rest of the family.

[Dennis tanner]

Hello Elsie

I think the police have to come and see the locked cabinet before they give you the licence. Since the gun was registered to Moira, I think she is more responsible than the rest of the family.

I will concede that but do they actually use the cabinet ?

[johntrevor]

I assume he told Kyle to go straight home. Why didn't he go with him ?

He stayed to wipe off Kyle's fingerprints. We have no idea how much time actually elapsed between Kerry and Amy hearing the gun shots, and the two of them getting to the barn.

[johntrevor]

I wonder if Kyle will tell her. At least that's where it seemed like it might be heading on Friday

I think he probably did. We should find out tonight (Monday)

[flappinfanny]

So will Cain stop in prison?

[hward]

So will Cain stop in prison?

I can't see this being the end of Cain, but it was a strange episode and it did feel pretty final

[Dennis tanner]

So will Cain stop in prison?

Kyle might have a chat with The Swirl.

[Son of Cain]

So will Cain stop in prison?

Maybe for a short while, but I think he will be out fairly soon. Perhaps Amy will tell Kerry, that well known keeper of secrets, who will let the cat out of the bag. I still think it likely that Kyle will go away for a while and return with a new head. Huey Quinn who plays Kyle has reached an age when child actors often leave to concentrate on their education.

[Snagglepus]

I was expecting Aaron to come back and have a go at Chas for the trouble she has caused. Surely someone must have told him about Cain.

[lizann]

is amy living with matty at the farm?

[Dennis tanner]

I was expecting Aaron to come back and have a go at Chas for the trouble she has caused. Surely someone must have told him about Cain.

Livesy let everyone down when he left like a coward.

[Son of Cain]

Well - Amy is certainly good at hiding the truth, and keeping it buried.

[lizann]

Well - Amy is certainly good at hiding the truth, and keeping it buried.

kyle has two killer mums

[Son of Cain]

kyle has two killer mums

Who did Moira kill?

[lizann]

Who did Moira kill?

emma

[lizann]

how can amy take kyle out of the country different surnames plus cain and moira are his legal guardians

[LizzyBizzy]

I read somewhere that they're going to Belfast. If that's correct (not saying it is), technically you don't need a passport to travel to Belfast, just photo ID.

[Son of Cain]

emma

Emma - Thanks - I had forgotten she ever existed. Your memory is certainly much better than mine.

[Dennis tanner]

Some have said that Kyle should return with a different head. I disagree.

I cannot believe that the suspects were not put on a ID parade. A Dock ID is of little value.

[Dennis tanner]

Some have said that Kyle should return with a different head. I disagree.

I cannot believe that the suspects were not put on a ID parade. A Dock ID is of little value anyway

[Son of Cain]

Some have said that Kyle should return with a different head. I disagree.

I cannot believe that the suspects were not put on a ID parade. A Dock ID is of little value anyway

I have never said that I think Kyle should return with a new head. But I have said that I think he might.

[johntrevor]

I have never said that I think Kyle should return with a new head. But I have said that I think he might.

Yes you are quite right. you said might not will. Emmerdale has a history of doing that. Robert, Sarah, Amy, to mention just three.

[Perdita]

Some have said that Kyle should return with a different head. I disagree.

I cannot believe that the suspects were not put on a ID parade. A Dock ID is of little value.

I like this Kyle, I hope he stays

[lizann]

I like this Kyle, I hope he stays

me also

[johntrevor]

me also

And me

[Son of Cain]

Moira tells Mack about Kyle, how long before he tells Charity. It's true what they say "It is hard to keep a secret, but it harder not to".

[Son of Cain]

Am I an old fogey, or is there something a bit pervy about adults trying to push a fifteen year old boy and a thirteen year old girl together.

[Dennis tanner]

I have never said that I think Kyle should return with a new head. But I have said that I think he might.

I agree and I am just giving my opinion

[lizann]

marcus was very aggressive angry with nate about naomi

[Son of Cain]

marcus was very aggressive angry with nate about naomi

Is it because it reminds him of how his father behaved?

[lizann]

nicola mad at charles not naomi, lusting after the vicar

[Snagglepus]

marcus was very aggressive angry with nate about naomi
Marcus was aggressive with Ethan, I remember him shoving him up against the wall. Don't like him at all.

[Dennis tanner]

Am I an old fogey, or is there something a bit pervy about adults trying to push a fifteen year old boy and a thirteen year old girl together.

My dad was 15 when he met my 14 year old mom. They got married 7 years later and I was born 4 years later.

[Dennis tanner]

I don't trust that girl's father. To be on the safe side, Charles and all his family ( Nate as well if he likes) should re-locate the the other end of the country as soon as possible

[Son of Cain]

My dad was 15 when he met my 14 year old mom. They got married 7 years later and I was born 4 years later.

The point I was trying to make was not the ages of the children but the way Jai and Lydia, particularly Lydia was a bit too enthusiastic in pushing them together. There is a two year difference in age with Arthur and April, 15 and 13, which at that age is huge. The way Lydia was hovering in the background showing, to my mind a bit too much interest, especially after the result of Samson and Amelia's "friendship" just seemed, to me, to be a bit off.

[johntrevor]

Marcus was aggressive with Ethan, I remember him shoving him up against the wall. Don't like him at all.

Yes I'm beginning to find him annoying and a bit full of himself.

[lizann]

Marcus was aggressive with Ethan, I remember him shoving him up against the wall. Don't like him at all.

i think he will abuse control ethan like his father

[Dennis tanner]

i think he will abuse control ethan like his father

But if we get rid of him, poor Noah will have to find another job.

[Snagglepus]

But if we get rid of him, poor Noah will have to find another job.

But with his qualifications, Noah will now be able to make out on his own.

[Dennis tanner]

Did anyone else think that the judge looked like the lady in the pre show advert ?

[Dennis tanner]

One of the defence barristers last Thursday was Andrea Mason who was in The Bill for 3 years.

The strange thing is that she as also a barrister in Emmerdale in 2014.

Meanwhile Vinny plans to deposit Liv's ashes at the Cricket Pavillion where it is nice and quiet. Probably because nobody ever plays cricket.

[lizann]

i think paddy could bring faith liv and al back to life but chas would still berate give out to him

[lizann]

was jessie and ellis mentioned for al's funeral?

[Dennis tanner]

i think paddy could bring faith liv and al back to life but chas would still berate give out to him
and it would be well deserved

[Dennis tanner]

was jessie and ellis mentioned for al's funeral?

I assume it will not be shown

[Perdita]

I assume it will not be shown

Not seen any news that either are returning from Dubai and Australia, the funeral was not even in Emmerdale, was it? Didn't Al's mother have him buried where she lives? Sorry, don't always see all episodes in full...

[Dennis tanner]

Not seen any news that either are returning from Dubai and Australia, the funeral was not even in Emmerdale, was it? Didn't Al's mother have him buried where she lives? Sorry, don't always see all episodes in full...

Yes she did but that's not where he will finish up.

[Perdita]

Yes she did but that's not where he will finish up.

??????? Please, he is dead at last, do we need to hear more about him even as a corpse???

[Son of Cain]

Has Natalie Robb gone off on holiday or is she getting ready for panto. She runs off to Belfast, leaving the farm in the hands of Nate and Matty none of them exactly reliable.

Moira said to Cain "You are my husband, we are suppose to be together for ever" was she saying that when she was rolling in the hay with Nate, or to John Barton when she was carrying on with Cain?.

Mack's now off to see Cain. Can anyone just turn up at the prison to visit any time they want?

[lizann]

has moira gone to bring amy with kyle back?

vinny got liv all over him

[lizann]

at least kerry said ellis and jessie attended the small service with his mother billy chloe kerry and dawn still more villagers than harriet got

how has no one coped chas upset for al more than faith and liv, belle should see

[Dennis tanner]

Has Natalie Robb gone off on holiday or is she getting ready for panto. She runs off to Belfast, leaving the farm in the hands of Nate and Matty none of them exactly reliable.

Moira said to Cain "You are my husband, we are suppose to be together for ever" was she saying that when she was rolling in the hay with Nate, or to John Barton when she was carrying on with Cain?.

Mack's now off to see Cain. Can anyone just turn up at the prison to visit any time they want?

Moira is prone to the odd fling.

[lizann]

Moira is prone to the odd fling.

which is why everyone will believe it of her

[Dennis tanner]

Why is Samson phoning Social Services? There is a young couple over the pennines in Wetherfield who would but her for ?10K.

[lizann]

samson wants esther gone

[hward]

Samson is such a selfish lowlife, I have no other words

[Son of Cain]

David is a terrible shop keeper, buying all that baby stuff when there only seems to be two babies in the village.

[Son of Cain]

Why did Noah feel he had to point out that he had been banged up? Likewise Dan mentioning Cain, made it seem like Ester was being brought up in a nest of criminals. The social worker would find that out soon enough if she had too.

[Snagglepus]

What's the back story regarding France with Sam/Samson?

[Dennis tanner]

Samson is such a selfish lowlife, I have no other words

Never used to be.

[lizann]

What's the back story regarding France with Sam/Samson?

he was there with school, had a French girlfriend

if samson wants to travel let him

as much as toerag asshole he is, he is being honest

[johntrevor]

he was there with school, had a French girlfriend

if samson wants to travel let him

as much as toerag asshole he is, he is being honest

Not sure that "Don't want IT" "Get rid off IT" could be called honest, I prefer disgusting.

[Perdita]

Not sure that "Don't want IT" "Get rid off IT" could be called honest, I prefer disgusting.
He is being honest, just not in a polite and considerate manner

[hward]

Not sure that "Don't want IT" "Get rid off IT" could be called honest, I prefer disgusting.

Agreed

[Dennis tanner]

It will be nice not to see and hear deluded whinging Kerry for a time

[lizann]

so kerry goes on a cruise working with amy missing with kyle, chloe pregnant alone, amelia with baby esther all because chas advised her

[Dennis tanner]

so kerry goes on a cruise working with amy missing with kyle, chloe pregnant alone, amelia with baby esther all because chas advised her

Chastity....The Wise Woman.

[Perdita]

Difficult to find better temporary exit storylines when ladies need to go on maternity leave, I dare say...

[lizann]

Difficult to find better temporary exit storylines when ladies need to go on maternity leave, I dare say...

they had time surely to come with something better, coma shot by al, injured in storm winds etc., although sam and samson healed fast as did sam's coat, they knew about the pregnancy

[Dennis tanner]

Difficult to find better temporary exit storylines when ladies need to go on maternity leave, I dare say...

Left to help Debbie Dingle with her garage

[Perdita]

they had time surely to come with something better, coma shot by al, injured in storm winds etc., although sam and samson healed fast as did sam's coat, they knew about the pregnancy

I agree but they probably had most of the storylines outlined already when Laura fell pregnant ... and not sure when Michael Wildman decided to no longer wanting to play Al :ninja: :hmm:

[Dennis tanner]

I agree but they probably had most of the storylines outlined already when Laura fell pregnant ... and not sure when Michael Wildman decided to no longer wanting to play Al :ninja: :hmm:

He had no choice to leave. He was shot dead. Good riddance

[Perdita]

He had no choice to leave. He was shot dead. Good riddance
The actor wanted to leave and they killed the character off

[johntrevor]

The actor wanted to leave and they killed the character off

Ha Ha Strange how some people blur the lines isn't it.

[Son of Cain]

Are the actresses who play Kerry, Amy and Moira all pregnant in real life?

[lizann]

Are the actresses who play Kerry, Amy and Moira all pregnant in real life?

i think just kerry ( laura ) and vanessa

[Perdita]

Are the actresses who play Kerry, Amy and Moira all pregnant in real life?

Kerry and Vanessa actresses were pregnant, had babies now, Amy and Moira actresses are not.

[lizann]

chas needed to unburden her guilt to cain in prison, charity should be smart and see its chas, her actions are of guilt

[johntrevor]

chas needed to unburden her guilt to cain in prison, charity should be smart and see its chas, her actions are of guilt

It should be pretty clear to most villagers, something was going on between her and Al the way she reacts when anyone mentions his name in a negative way. And don't forget Belle knows about them, she hasn't said anything yet

[Snagglepus]

Has Aaron been told that Cain is in the chokey, I am sure he would want to know what has gone on.

[Perdita]

Has Aaron been told that Cain is in the chokey, I am sure he would want to know what has gone on.

I doubt it, if he knew he would spill the beans, I am sure..

[Dennis tanner]

I doubt it, if he knew he would spill the beans, I am sure..

Not if his mommy begged him not to upset Yorkshire's busiest vet.

Talking about professionals, it's no wonder that us ordinary folk can't get a doctor's appointment when two of them are 'working' in a tiny village and one of them can always be absent.

[lizann]

It should be pretty clear to most villagers, something was going on between her and Al the way she reacts when anyone mentions his name in a negative way. And don't forget Belle knows about them, she hasn't said anything yet

of course chloe jumps to moira, belle can clear it up where is she

[Son of Cain]

chas needed to unburden her guilt to cain in prison, charity should be smart and see its chas, her actions are of guilt

If Chas wants to unburden her guilt she could just tell Chloe if was her that Al was seeing. I am struggling to see what she expected of Cain, he is in a worse position than her. Chas really has very little feeling for Paddy, and he will be devastated when the truth comes out. But perhaps it would be better if he found out now while Eve is still young.

[lizann]

chas confirms it was moira

[lizann]

chloe and belle out of the pub for mattys announcement

[Dennis tanner]

When she was offered that job, shouldn't Vanessa have revealed she was pregnant ?

Nate couldn't believe that Moira would be unfaithful !!!!!

Liam and Leyla...Just because their marriage isn't perfect at the moment, they decide to end it...pathetic.

[Perdita]

Is Chloe working at all? How does she support herself with Kerry on a cruise ship? Kerry sending her money from wherever she is? :hmm:

[Son of Cain]

Is Chloe working at all? How does she support herself with Kerry on a cruise ship? Kerry sending her money from wherever she is? :hmm:

Does her father send her money? I cannot remember if he cut her off without a penny or not. Or maybe a trust fund from her mother.

[lizann]

Does her father send her money? I cannot remember if he cut her off without a penny or not. Or maybe a trust fund from her mother.

i believe cut off which is why she came with kerry

[Son of Cain]

i believe cut off which is why she came with kerry

When she left with Kerry it did not really make sense, but now we know that Kerry is her mother it does make more sense even if Chloe did not at the time. As her father knew that Kerry and Chloe were mother and daughter I still wonder if he does give her some money.

[lizann]

mack rang moira about the ring but didn't tell her everyone thinks her and al at it

[Dennis tanner]

David confirms his reputation of being an idiot and I don't see how he can escape some time in The Chokey.

[lizann]

David confirms his reputation of being an idiot and I don't see how he can escape some time in The Chokey.

eric will probably bribe a judge

[Dennis tanner]

eric will probably bribe a judge

He'd better not. His idiot son deserves time in the Chokey

[Son of Cain]

Suzie said her phone died, but there was a landline phone on the desk.

[Dennis tanner]

Suzie said her phone died, but there was a landline phone on the desk.

What on earth was she doing all night ????

[Dennis tanner]

I am gutted that Suzie did not leave with Vanessa.

Why did Bear think that he needed an haircut when he offended Berniece ?

Why didn't Matty ask the vital question, "Why were Cain and Al fighting?"

Why are people getting David's stuff delivered when it would be cheaper to use Morrisons ?

[lizann]

it took vanessa long enough to leave but hallelujah

[Dennis tanner]

it too vanessa long enough to leave but hallelujah THey always faff about when they are leaving. Gives the scripwriters something to do.

[Son of Cain]

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Why are people getting David's stuff delivered when it would be cheaper to use Morrisons

Especially as David's shop is too small to carry a large range of products, so they would need to go elsewhere for the rest of their stuff. His shop is the type of place you go for bread, milk, treats, or things you had forgot on your big shop. Would have went bust years ago.

David has always been a bit of an idiot, but they have turned him into a "nasty" idiot, with the driving licence scam. Not sure how he expected to get away with it,- as you have to send your licence to the DVLA when you get points, and it can take weeks before it comes back. Was he going to steal Victoria's licence and hope she would not notice.

[Dennis tanner]

I am amazed that the tiny village has so many little businesses. What next? A Night club ?

[lizann]

now david has hired bear

[Dennis tanner]

now david has hired bear

Tha actual father of Paddy Bear

[Son of Cain]

I am amazed that the tiny village has so many little businesses. What next? A Night club ?

Perhaps a filling station with a shop. The only way a shop would be viable in a small village.

[Dennis tanner]

Perhaps a filling station with a shop. The only way a shop would be viable in a small village.

A filling station with a post office and Subway would be good. The resident population of about 50 needs all these things

[lizann]

vinny beaten to a bulp over gambling and listening to mack

[Dennis tanner]

vinny beaten to a bulp over gambling and listening to mack

Vinny will be found by Mandy. Will have to wait 5 minutes for an ambulance. Whisked off to Hotton Hospital where he will spend 15 minutes in A&E having tests before being taken to a private ward.

[hward]

Is Tracy still in the village? Just realised she wasn't around when Vanessa left

[Perdita]

Is Tracy still in the village? Just realised she wasn't around when Vanessa left

Gone back to Nottingham after Nate and Naomi made up again when the storm was over

[Perdita]

vinny beaten to a bulp over gambling and listening to mack

Why did he not put all the money back into the safe? But Darren probably would have watched him punch in the code anyway... not the brightest spark in the box, is he? Glad Darren did not hurt the dog

[lizann]

Why did he not put all the money back into the safe? But Darren probably would have watched him punch in the code anyway... not the brightest spark in the box, is he? Glad Darren did not hurt the dog

did he go into town with mack to spend in a casino, make more ?

[Son of Cain]

Why did he not put all the money back into the safe? But Darren probably would have watched him punch in the code anyway... not the brightest spark in the box, is he? Glad Darren did not hurt the dog

Has he never heard of banks? Would a small isolated scrap yard in the countryside, keep that much money in a safe, in an office that could be fairly easily be broken into, a safe that is small enough that it could be carried away and broken open at leisure? Would a scrap yard that never seems to do much business ever have that much money in the first place? Does Darren always carry such a large amount of money in his brief case, so that he is always ready for any high stakes poker game that he might just chance to come across?

I am not much of a card player, and I know that poker is a game of skill, but the frequency of good hands that seem to be dealt to winners and losers seemed a bit hard to believe. I always thought it was not acceptable for a winner to turn over losing hands allowing him to gauge how another player would play. In fact, I am pretty certain that atempting to do so could result in physical violence.

[Dennis tanner]

Has he never heard of banks? Would a small isolated scrap yard in the countryside, keep that much money in a safe, in an office that could be fairly easily be broken into, a safe that is small enough that it could be carried away and broken open at leisure? Would a scrap yard that never seems to do much business ever have that much money in the first place? Does Darren always carry such a large amount of money in his brief case, so that he is always ready for any high stakes poker game that he might just chance to come across?

I am not much of a card player, and I know that poker is a game of skill, but the frequency of good hands that seem to be dealt to winners and losers seemed a bit hard to believe. I always thought it was not acceptable for a winner to turn over losing hands allowing him to gauge how another player would play. In fact, I am pretty certain that atempting to do so could result in physical violence.

I am shocked that they didn't have a Royal flush beating 4 Kings

[lizann]

arthur upset as gay?

[Perdita]

Sorry, missed start of Emmerdale.. Vinny never was in hospital??

[lizann]

Sorry, missed start of Emmerdale.. Vinny never was in hospital??

no and didn't look as bruised as his bashing looked Friday

[lizann]

good scene of arthur coming out to nico

[Dennis tanner]

no and didn't look as bruised as his bashing looked Friday

All we saw on Friday was a bit of red make-up. Vinny declines a 4 hour wait in A&E ( Perhaps they fast track celebs from Emmerdale )

Has the vicar found his Christmas choir yet? Perhaps he should be asking all his regulars.

[lizann]

moira is angry

[Son of Cain]

Have the writers been watching the same martial arts movies as the Corrie writers? - Alya elbows Griff , Moira elbows Charity.

[Son of Cain]

I really hope that people find out about Amy's involvement in Frank's death. I think the writers and Amy have forgotten.

[lizann]

why is charity sticking up for chas, she kicked her out and let al in the pub which he burned

was it belle who told paddy or did he know all along?

[lizann]

ethans boss after marcus

[Perdita]

why is charity sticking up for chas, she kicked her out and let al in the pub which he burned

was it belle who told paddy or did he know all along?

Wondering about how Paddy found out too.. Watched again and Paddy said Belle told him when they were outside the house.

[Dennis tanner]

Wondering about how Paddy found out too.. Watched again and Paddy said Belle told him when they were outside the house.

I found it incredible that in the same scene Padfdy was emmotional and Chastity was smirking.

[Son of Cain]

Chas does not seem to be sorry for any of it, only sorry for herself.

[johntrevor]

why is charity sticking up for chas, she kicked her out and let al in the pub which he burned

was it belle who told paddy or did he know all along?

Yes Paddy said Belle told him. I am just glad that at last somebody has told him

[Perdita]

I found it incredible that in the same scene Padfdy was emmotional and Chastity was smirking.

Might have been squirming with embarrassment rather than smirking...

[johntrevor]

Might have been squirming with embarrassment rather than smirking...

Loved the way Paddy handled the outing . Just like all us viewers she never saw what was coming when he "took her away for a few days".
Brilliantly handled.

[hward]

Might have been squirming with embarrassment rather than smirking...

I definitely thought she was smirking.

[hward]

Loved the way Paddy handled the outing . Just like all us viewers she never saw what was coming when he "took her away for a few days".
Brilliantly handled.

Agreed

[Dennis tanner]

Yes Paddy said Belle told him. I am just glad that at last somebody has told him

He needs to stop calling himself Paddy Dingle

[lizann]

go on paddy, she deserves nothing

[Dennis tanner]

go on paddy, she deserves nothing

Just for once I am on the side of The Padster

[Son of Cain]

David, the world's worst shopkeeper, must have spent a fortune decorating the shop. But I cannot help thinking he has got his sums wrong. I would say he has spent a lot more on his Christmas Grotto, than any extra revenue he could possibly earn from this venture.

[Dennis tanner]

David, the world's worst shopkeeper, must have spent a fortune decorating the shop. But I cannot help thinking he has got his sums wrong. I would say he has spent a lot more on his Christmas Grotto, than any extra revenue he could possibly earn from this venture.

Daddy Eric will have to bail him out again. In any case the few dozen villagers need to know that his shop exists

[lizann]

David, the world's worst shopkeeper, must have spent a fortune decorating the shop. But I cannot help thinking he has got his sums wrong. I would say he has spent a lot more on his Christmas Grotto, than any extra revenue he could possibly earn from this venture.

santa visit was free so how can he make money

[Dennis tanner]

santa visit was free so how can he make money

I am shocked that he left room for any stock and that he had to ask the local electrician to spare
a minute to plug in the lights.

Paddy just doesn't understand what a difficult time his wife has been having

[lizann]

im glad aaron rang paddy, he is on his side

i still want moira to batter chas

[Son of Cain]

If David is charging ?12.99 for a "Biscuit Christmas Tree Bauble" it is no wonder he has no customers. Are they gold plated or made of real biscuits?

[lizann]

david selling the shop and house now time for a new decent written family or a sugden, give joe some kids as too many dingles

suzy moving to vanessa's with suzy, future couple?

[Dennis tanner]

Why on earth would David be considered for a job as an assistant manager ?

Amy is vindictive and nasty.

[Son of Cain]

Why on earth would David be considered for a job as an assistant manager ?

Amy is vindictive and nasty.

Will David put failed shop owner on his CV, that's bound to help him get the job.

I think it is official that both the character and the writers have forgotten about self righteous Amy's part in Frank's death. Did she put that bandage on her wrist herself, if she went to hospital they would have looped it over her thumb. The way it was, it would give no support, if the police saw it, they would know she was lying.

[Son of Cain]

Chas is acting like she is the victim in this affair, She is acting as if this is something that has happened TO her, not something she brought on her self.

[johntrevor]

Chas is acting like she is the victim in this affair, She is acting as if this is something that has happened TOO her, not something she bought on her self.

And now, with a bit of luck, she's got no one

[Perdita]

Chas is acting like she is the victim in this affair, She is acting as if this is something that has happened TOO her, not something she bought on her self.

I get it that she could not cope with her mum's illness and death and I know everybody deals differently with these situations but having an affair with a creep like Al is something I find impossible to get my head around. And is expecting Paddy and everyone else to forgive her and go: aww poor Chas, she has had a tough time... She still does not seem to understand that what she did was wrong and for missing her mum's passing is her fault for sleeping with Al rather than being nearby...

[lizann]

good on bear and paddy but why is charity helping chas

[lizann]

I get it that she could not cope with her mum's illness and death and I know everybody deals differently with these situations but having an affair with a creep like Al is something I find impossible to get my head around. And is expecting Paddy and everyone else to forgive her and go: aww poor Chas, she has had a tough time... She still does not seem to understand that what she did was wrong and for missing her mum's passing is her fault for sleeping with Al rather than being nearby...

chas chose al over her son , no affair when lisa and grace died, bad storyline overall for chas no redemption

ethan could move in with marcus to where he previously lived

[Son of Cain]

good on bear and paddy but why is charity helping chas

Not only helping her but seems to be sympathetic towards her.

[Dennis tanner]

chas chose al over her son , no affair when lisa and grace died, bad storyline overall for chas no redemption

ethan could move in with marcus to where he previously lived

Ethan and Marcus................BORING.

[lizann]

chloe has no money, she needs kerry

[Dennis tanner]

chloe has no money, she needs kerry

No money but she ignores the bus to Hotton and gets in a taxi

[lizann]

No money but she ignores the bus to Hotton and gets in a taxi

she was packing so much but left with one small bag, she should try and get to see her rich papa in prison and get back living in his big gaff

[hward]

Haven't seen the episode yet. Is she actually leaving? Surprised if she is as surely Charity is going to find out at some point

[lizann]

Haven't seen the episode yet. Is she actually leaving? Surprised if she is as surely Charity is going to find out at some point

she asked the taxi man to take her where 15 quid would take her, the longest leaving ever

how can amy man afford the house rent alone now?

[Dennis tanner]

she asked the taxi man to take her where 15 quid would take her, the longest leaving ever

how can amy man afford the house rent alone now?

Kerry man will be sending her money !!!

[Son of Cain]

Notice Amy's (badly tied) bandage disappeared pretty quick.

[lizann]

Notice Amy's (badly tied) bandage disappeared pretty quick.

she lied no injury no need for it anymore as chloe changed statement but no one done for lying, waste of police time

[Dennis tanner]

she lied no injury no need for it anymore as chloe changed statement but no one done for lying, waste of police time

In real life, very few people do get done for this

[Snagglepus]

Why had Harriet's house been stripped?
It's not as if she has moved and taken the wallpaper with her.

[lizann]

Why had Harriet's house been stripped?
It's not as if she has moved and taken the wallpaper with her.

where is all her belongings gone, furniture etc., was billy and dawn not buying that house?

[hward]

where is all her belongings gone, furniture etc., was billy and dawn not buying that house?

Billy and dawn couldn't afford it even with the money that Harriet had left them.

Id assume her furniture etc would have been cleared and probably sold by whoever was dealing with the estate. I think almost everything was let to the church? So cleared out and sold off it preparation for the sale of the house

[Son of Cain]

Are they trying to make Chas look better, and redeem her, by making Paddy look bad?

[Son of Cain]

Billy and dawn couldn't afford it even with the money that Harriet had left them.

Id assume her furniture etc would have been cleared and probably sold by whoever was dealing with the estate. I think almost everything was let to the church? So cleared out and sold off it preparation for the sale of the house

Did they give the money to Alex in order to stop him trying to for custody of Chloe. Or did I imagine that.

[Snagglepus]

Did they give the money to Alex in order to stop him trying to for custody of Chloe. Or did I imagine that.

I think he got ?5000 and a warning (or was it a hiding) from Kim and Will not to ask for more.

[johntrevor]

Did they give the money to Alex in order to stop him trying to for custody of Chloe. Or did I imagine that.

Kim and Will paid him off . They offered him ?10,000, but when he wanted more, Will gave him a good hiding and dropped the pay out to ?5,000

[lizann]

Are they trying to make Chas look better, and redeem her, by making Paddy look bad?

too late, paddy can be angry

[Dennis tanner]

too late, paddy can be angry

He is very upset and angry but he doesn't forget to shave his head every day.

[lizann]

cain can get visits and phone calls even christmas day, whose his buddy at the top in hotten prison

caleb is faith's son

[lizann]

good casting on the young cain

[Dennis tanner]

good casting on the young cain I agree. He has a lot of Cain's mannerisms. His father??? I would have to include Zak in the list of suspects

[lizann]

caleb was born in prison before chas to faith

[Dennis tanner]

caleb was born in prison before chas to faith

Faith was not born a Dingle so why did she have a Dingle name ?

[Perdita]

Faith was not born a Dingle so why did she have a Dingle name ?

She married Shadrach

[Dennis tanner]

She married Shadrach

I was on about her first name.

[Perdita]

I was on about her first name.

???? Faith is a religious name but probably was coincidence when she joined the Dingle Clan that her first name fitted in

[Son of Cain]

I find it tedious when they bring in another previously unmentioned family member. It is as if when they run out of ideas, they say, let's find another long lost relative.

[lizann]

I find it tedious when they bring in another previously unmentioned family member. It is as if when they run out of ideas, they say, let's find another long lost relative.

why couldn't we get another tate or sudgen or pollard we have too many dingles and caleb is being used for redeeming chas which is a no no for me, paddy is right she should leave even just for a while

[Dennis tanner]

???? Faith is a religious name but probably was coincidence when she joined the Dingle Clan that her first name fitted in

I can't believe that Shadrach was attracted by her name

[lizann]

kyle confessed and they have his dna, not sure what to make of caleb, taken in by the dingles already and offering a top brief for kyle, chas making out her and al were fairytale lovers to him, playing victim

[Dennis tanner]

kyle confessed and they have his dna, not sure what to make of caleb, taken in by the dingles already and offering a top brief for kyle, chas making out her and al were fairytale lovers to him, playing victim

Nearly killing that poor dog has surely put an end to Kirk's chances of joining the Yorkshire Vet team. Based on what I have seen and heard so far, I like Caleb.

Swirling must surely win the new category of Best Soap Cop.

[Perdita]

kyle confessed and they have his dna, not sure what to make of caleb, taken in by the dingles already and offering a top brief for kyle, chas making out her and al were fairytale lovers to him, playing victim

So far, Caleb is playing the good guy which of course means he has a bad side to him as well. But at least he is putting an end to the charade of Cain having killed Al and poor Kyle can get the professional help he so clearly needs.

[Dennis tanner]

So far, Caleb is playing the good guy which of course means he has a bad side to him as well. But at least he is putting an end to the charade of Cain having killed Al and poor Kyle can get the professional help he so clearly needs.

Can we be sure that he is the real Caleb ?

[katie hunter]

Can we be sure that he is the real Caleb ?

I think there is something very suss about him. I'm not convinced that he is who he says he is. He is also adamant that he isn't a Dingle - how would he know that for sure?

[Dennis tanner]

I think there is something very suss about him. I'm not convinced that he is who he says he is. He is also adamant that he isn't a Dingle - how would he know that for sure?

Caleb....One of the spys sent by Moses into Caanan.

[lizann]

still no guilt from chas with kyle the young killer not cain

[lizann]

how is cain getting so many visits in prison

[katie hunter]

how is cain getting so many visits in prison

I am surprised they haven't given him his own landline with the amount of calls he has had as well!

Is it maybe because he is on remand and hasn't been sentenced yet?

[Perdita]

I am surprised they haven't given him his own landline with the amount of calls he has had as well!

Is it maybe because he is on remand and hasn't been sentenced yet?
I believe that is the reason, he is still on remand but I am prepared to be shot down in flames by more knowledgeable folk....

[lizann]

did cain plead guilty, will they be a trial, sentencing, was he already sentenced?

[Perdita]

did cain plead guilty, will they be a trial, sentencing, was he already sentenced?

Yes, he pleaded guilty but has not been sentenced yet

[Dennis tanner]

how is cain getting so many visits in prison

It's a set in the studios

[Perdita]

did cain plead guilty, will they be a trial, sentencing, was he already sentenced?

I presume that there will be a change now that Kyle has come forward to confess and provided evidence.

[flappinfanny]

Is Caleb out for revenge?

[lizann]

Is Caleb out for revenge?

it's like he wants cains life and family and friends

[Son of Cain]

I presume that there will be a change now that Kyle has come forward to confess and provided evidence.

In real life I am sure it would not be that simple. The blood on the jumper would only prove that Kyle was there, not necessarily that he killed Al. If Cain continues to say he did it, then we would have two people saying they did it. But this is a Soap and we cannot keep Cain in jail forever, so I expect to see him out soon.

[johntrevor]

In real life I am sure it would not be that simple. The blood on the jumper would only prove that Kyle was there, not necessarily that he killed Al. If Cain continues to say he did it, then we would have two people saying they did it. But this is a Soap and we cannot keep Cain in jail forever, so I expect to see him out soon.

I thought that someone mentioned gunshot residue on the jumper. This would indicate that the person wearing the jumper fired the gun.
So Kyle

[Son of Cain]

I thought that someone mentioned gunshot residue on the jumper. This would indicate that the person wearing the jumper fired the gun.
So Kyle

Caleb mentioned it, but it has not been confirmed yet, that they have found it. If he was standing close to Cain, it could still be present. Did Cain get rid of the clothes he was wearing, because it would be more conclusive if there was none, or less on his clothes.,.

[Son of Cain]

Is Caleb a serious criminal? He has the number of a top class criminal defense lawyer and drives a very expensive car?

[Dennis tanner]

Caleb mentioned it, but it has not been confirmed yet, that they have found it. If he was standing close to Cain, it could still be present. Did Cain get rid of the clothes he was wearing, because it would be more conclusive if there was none, or less on his clothes.,.

I still don't understand why Cain pleaded guilty to murder. He didn't need to.

[Dennis tanner]

Is Caleb a serious criminal? He has the number of a top class criminal defense lawyer and drives a very expensive car?

Would he be a serious criminal like Kirk is a serious Vet ?

[Snagglepus]

If Matty was to marry Amy his step brother would also be his stepson.
Moira, who is Kyles step mother, would also become Kyles step grandma with him being her sons step son.
If his brother was his son would he be his own dad?

[katie hunter]

Would Amy be legally allowed to sit in on the police interviews with Kyle, I thought Zak was his legal guardian?

[flappinfanny]

So is Leyla back on the smack? :(

[lizann]

Would Amy be legally allowed to sit in on the police interviews with Kyle, I thought Zak was his legal guardian?

zak and lisa i thought signed kyle to cain and moira

is brenda leaving kathy and heath behind?

[Dennis tanner]

So is Leyla back on the smack? :(

Looks like it. Why didn't she just say to Liam, "I don't want a divorce so I'm not signing the papers"

[Son of Cain]

is brenda leaving kathy and heath behind?

Escaping Kathy is probably why she is going travelling.

[Dennis tanner]

Escaping Kathy is probably why she is going travelling.

The twins are old enough to look after themselves

[lizann]

jacob bleeds out

[Dennis tanner]

jacob bleeds out

Never a good idea to use a knife. I am so disappointed as I liked his new haircut.

[lizann]

at least liam got to see cain in prison

[flappinfanny]

David is as much a useless father as Leyla is a mother.

[lizann]

David is as much a useless father as Leyla is a mother.

alicia and justin need to see their son jakey

[Dennis tanner]

alicia and justin need to see their son jakey

Not really. Leyla says that he is now a man.

It would appear that bleeding out in the middle of winter did him no harm at all.

The obvious choice for running the B&B is Bob.

Dawn just wanted to 'work' for Kim when it suited her.

[hward]

David is as much a useless father as Leyla is a mother.

David is a blithering idiot who always blames someone else for his own problems

[Dennis tanner]

Is April being lined up for the next child pregnancy ?

[Son of Cain]

Are we heading for a Leyla suicide story, because of the divorce from Liam, and the way David is treating her.

[lizann]

Is April being lined up for the next child pregnancy ?

like samson a more mature personality change

poor arthur, those scummy vile bullies

jakey should have justin and alicia, his next of kin, his parents on his birth cert, david is annoying

[Dennis tanner]

like samson a more mature personality change

poor arthur, those scummy vile bullies

jakey should have justin and alicia, his next of kin, his parents on his birth cert, david is annoying
He's no longer a child

[Dennis tanner]

Are we heading for a Leyla suicide story, because of the divorce from Liam, and the way David is treating her.

Leyla should go to the Police and tell them everything she knows.

[lizann]

Leyla should go to the Police and tell them everything she knows.

why won't she, jacob can't get in trouble so why the lies

[johntrevor]

why won't she, jacob can't get in trouble so why the lies

She doesn't want everyone knowing that she can't shake the drug obsession. If Jacob hadn't come home when he did, she would probably taken the drugs.

[lizann]

She doesn't want everyone knowing that she can't shake the drug obsession. If Jacob hadn't come home when he did, she would probably taken the drugs.

david and jacob should tell the police about callum

[Snagglepus]

why won't she, jacob can't get in trouble so why the lies
Jacob went to the meet armed with a knife, which was from Leyla's kitchen.
He would be in trouble despite the fact he was stabbed with his own knife.
The drug dealer would say it was self defence.

[Perdita]

Jacob went to the meet armed with a knife, which was from Leyla's kitchen.
He would be in trouble despite the fact he was stabbed with his own knife.
The drug dealer would say it was self defence.

I am sure if all told the truth Jacob might not get more than a warning for going to meet someone armed with a knife.

[Snagglepus]

I am sure if all told the truth Jacob might not get more than a warning for going to meet someone armed with a knife.
The phone records would show that Jacob arranged the meet on Leyla's phone, so setting a trap.
The dealer would say that Jacob pulled the knife out and threaten him with it, which he did. Jacob said something like he would only need to cut his carotid artery and he would bleed to death.

[Dennis tanner]

The phone records would show that Jacob arranged the meet on Leyla's phone, so setting a trap.
The dealer would say that Jacob pulled the knife out and threaten him with it, which he did. Jacob said something like he would only need to cut his carotid artery and he would bleed to death.

Yes. The Precious Jacob is far from innocent.