Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[Perdita]

Brenda seems very forgiving of Cathy, I do not remember her reproaching Cathy once, for taking the car in the first place.

I can imagine that she sees how much in shock Cathy is and how she knows she is responsible for Heath's death even if she did not drive, if they had not gone on the joy ride Cathy insisted on, they would not have been in an accident....reproach for TWOC can still be dished out, maybe even by the police....

[lizann]

Brenda seems very forgiving of Cathy, I do not remember her reproaching Cathy once, for taking the car in the first place.

brenda and wendy are on cathy's side

[lizann]

caleb again with endless cash

[Dennis tanner]

It would appear that there has been an inquest and Charity was not called to give evidence...Very strange
He has ruled that it was an accidental death.
I am really impressed that Hotton CPS have decided that prosecuting an innocent woman would not be in the public interest.

[Son of Cain]

It would appear that there has been an inquest and Charity was not called to give evidence...Very strange
He has ruled that it was an accidental death.
I am really impressed that Hotton CPS have decided that prosecuting an innocent woman would not be in the public interest.

Accidental Death would suggest that this was something that just happened to Harry through no fault of his own. Surely it would be Death by Misadventure, as he was threatening to shoot Mack at the time.

After all the things Charity has been involved in, I would not have expected her to be affected the way she is.

[Perdita]

Accidental Death would suggest that this was something that just happened to Harry through no fault of his own. Surely it would be Death by Misadventure, as he was threatening to shoot Mack at the time.

After all the things Charity has been involved in, I would not have expected her to be affected the way she is.

She has never killed anyone and maybe, having gone through so much in her life, this just broke the camel's back ?!

[Son of Cain]

She has never killed anyone and maybe, having gone through so much in her life, this just broke the camel's back ?!

Or maybe they are just looking for someone to tack a bit of drama onto?

[Dennis tanner]

Sun Hill to get a job as Caleb's personal chef ?

[lizann]

tracy stayed strong resilient for what 5 minutes, hope she loses everything

[Son of Cain]

tracy stayed strong resilient for what 5 minutes, hope she loses everything

Remembering how angry she was when Nate had a one night stand. Trying to remember if Nate actually did sleep with that woman.

[lizann]

Remembering how angry she was when Nate had a one night stand. Trying to remember if Nate actually did sleep with that woman.

was the woman suzy, i know she was with vanessa maybe bi

[Dennis tanner]

Remembering how angry she was when Nate had a one night stand. Trying to remember if Nate actually did sleep with that woman.

He probably did. It's what he does

[Son of Cain]

was the woman suzy, i know she was with vanessa maybe bi
Her name was Fiona. She was with Vanessa, but that was before Suzy, I think.

[johntrevor]

Her name was Fiona. She was with Vanessa, but that was before Suzy, I think.

I seem to remember he spent the night with her and went back home the next morning, Cain found out and was not pleased.

[johntrevor]

tracy stayed strong resilient for what 5 minutes, hope she loses everything

What with her cheating pretty much the same as Nate with Fiona, then Tracy and Nate probably deserve each other, they are both irresponsible parents to Frankie.

[lizann]

tracy took frankie wouldn't let nate see the child after his one night stand, she is having a full blown affair

[Son of Cain]

Hasn't Cain already got a contract to service Caleb's cars. As if anyone would give a service contract to a village garage that is based in a shed. There is a lot of jobs that cannot be done on modern cars without computers and the relevant software, which is expensive and often only given to main dealers.

[Son of Cain]

I am getting bored of Tracey whining on about how she is hurting her family and does not want to see Caleb again. Just let her get found out and get it over with it.

[Dennis tanner]

Hasn't Cain already got a contract to service Caleb's cars. As if anyone would give a service contract to a village garage that is based in a shed. There is a lot of jobs that cannot be done on modern cars without computers and the relevant software, which is expensive and often only given to main dealers.

What you say is very true. The problem is that Cain is one of the few 'professionals' in the village who can be seen doing something. It looks like the Doctors was closed for the day and we know how useless the Vets are

[Dennis tanner]

I am getting bored of Tracey whining on about how she is hurting her family and does not want to see Caleb again. Just let her get found out and get it over with it.

She's not going to be found out by Thick Nate.

[Son of Cain]

Where was the doctors surgery before this move? I thought it was always in the village, when Alex was trying to break in and steal drugs. But Wendy says it will now be a 10 second commute, wasn't it always?

[johntrevor]

Where was the doctors surgery before this move? I thought it was always in the village, when Alex was trying to break in and steal drugs. But Wendy says it will now be a 10 second commute, wasn't it always?

Yes I thought the same, thought it was always in the village.

[lizann]

anyone else think aaron and mack are flirting

[Dennis tanner]

Where was the doctors surgery before this move? I thought it was always in the village, when Alex was trying to break in and steal drugs. But Wendy says it will now be a 10 second commute, wasn't it always?

They appear to be re-writing matters. Wherever it is, nobody is working there at the moment.
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[lizann]

liam seems to becoming the village man whore

[johntrevor]

anyone else think aaron and mack are flirting

OMG please please spare the viewers THAT

[Son of Cain]

Why can Cathy not say, that the reason why she does not want "Getting Started" played at the funeral, is because that was the song that was playing when the car crashed. Save Bob turning the colour of a ripe plum and bursting a blood vessel.

I find it unrealistic that no one has raised the question of what caused the crash. Cars do not usually crash when travelling on a quiet open road, unless there was a mechanical failure or driver error.,

[johntrevor]

Why can Cathy not say, that the reason why she does not want "Getting Started" played at the funeral, is because that was the song that was playing when the car crashed. Save Bob turning the colour of a ripe plum and bursting a blood vessel.

I find it unrealistic that no one has raised the question of what caused the crash. Cars do not usually crash when travelling on a quiet open road, unless there was a mechanical failure or driver error.,

I think because Hotten Police's finest are going through all the statements and will ultimately reach the correct conclusion . (or more likely Not)

[Dennis tanner]

On the front of a TV magazine I saw today Cain and Livesy are going to fight to the death

[lizann]

issac the gossiping bullying so young

no scott or brenda at the funeral, no elliot or arthur in church too

nico will make angel keep quite even from jimmy

[Dennis tanner]

issac the gossiping bullying so young

no scott or brenda at the funeral, no elliot or arthur in church too

nico will make angel keep quite even from jimmy

If I was Scott I would be keeping well away after his driving lessons.

Angelica will tell the truth. She did take over the driving prob\ably by peer prerssure and she just crashed. Probably death by careless driving. First offence. She shouldn't be going anywhere near the Chokey but this is soap.

[Perdita]

On the front of a TV magazine I saw today Cain and Livesy are going to fight to the death

Neither will die

[katie hunter]

issac the gossiping bullying so young

no scott or brenda at the funeral, no elliot or arthur in church too

nico will make angel keep quite even from jimmy

No mention of Carly either.

[Son of Cain]

If I was Scott I would be keeping well away after his driving lessons.

Angelica will tell the truth. She did take over the driving prob\ably by peer prerssure and she just crashed. Probably death by careless driving. First offence. She shouldn't be going anywhere near the Chokey but this is soap.

If you have never had a driving lesson and not passed the test, I would think that makes it "dangerous driving", certainly dangerous to drive. I am not sure what qualifies as dangerous driving, but as you say this is a Soap, so unless the character is leaving, or being written out, a slap on the wrist.

Regardless of who was driving, Cathy is still partly, indeed, mostly to blame. It was her idea, and it was her who stole the keys. It seems this is being written as, if Cathy was not driving, she will be forgiven.

[johntrevor]

Don't know who the singer of Your Song was at the funeral but it was excellent and very haunting. Does anyone know who it was?

[lizann]

Don't know who the singer of Your Song was at the funeral but it was excellent and very haunting. Does anyone know who it was?

ed sheeran did one song like goes on i think

[Perdita]

Don't know who the singer of Your Song was at the funeral but it was excellent and very haunting. Does anyone know who it was?

Ed Sheeran... Life Goes On

[johntrevor]

Ed Sheeran... Life Goes On

No it was a female singer playing guitar at the church, and singing the Elton John song "Your Song"

[Perdita]

No it was a female singer playing guitar at the church, and singing the Elton John song "Your Song"

I think she was an extra, maybe a school friend of Heath, was never explained but she gave a brilliant performance... great singer, hope somebody will give her a recording contract!

[lizann]

emmerdale despite important characters missing do funerals very well

[Dennis tanner]

Neither will die

thanks

[Dennis tanner]

I think she was an extra, maybe a school friend of Heath, was never explained but she gave a brilliant performance... great singer, hope somebody will give her a recording contract!

How wonderful life is
While you're in the world

But he no longer was Poor Bob was thinking

[Son of Cain]

I think she was an extra, maybe a school friend of Heath, was never explained but she gave a brilliant performance... great singer, hope somebody will give her a recording contract!

Seemed a bit mean, that she was not given a credit at the end.

[lizann]

really good scene with moira telling charity about emma

[Dennis tanner]

really good scene with moira telling charity about emma

Yes. They dominated the episde and made it excellent. Moira's recollections about Emma Barton were spot on but her brother struggles with empathy.

[katie hunter]

Very good Moira and Charity scenes played by two cracking actresses.

I hope Moira doesn't end up going to prison now that this has surfaced again.

[johntrevor]

Seemed a bit mean, that she was not given a credit at the end.

Yes it did, she was excellent

[lizann]

so jimmy wants to stay quite have angel lie but nico doesn't, expected the opposite

[Dennis tanner]

This Chastity business nees to be resolved asap. I couldn't cope otherwise

[Son of Cain]

This Chastity business nees to be resolved asap. I couldn't cope otherwise

I do not understand why it is taking so long for Mack to see that Charity's current mood is because of what happened with Harry.

[Perdita]

I do not understand why it is taking so long for Mack to see that Charity's current mood is because of what happened with Harry.

Because he is too wrapped up grieving over the loss of Reuben

[Son of Cain]

Because he is too wrapped up grieving over the loss of Reuben

I think you like to see the best in people.
Personally I think he is selfish, weak and self centred. Wrapped up in grief? but not so wrapped up that he cannot embark on car stealing expeditions with Aaron, an activity that takes a certain amount of focus and concentration. Perhaps he only has two modes of behavior at present, grief for Reubon and car theft, and just switches from one to the other, but no room for Charities problems.

[Perdita]

I think you like to see the best in people.
Personally I think he is selfish, weak and self centred. Wrapped up in grief? but not so wrapped up that he cannot embark on car stealing expeditions with Aaron, an activity that takes a certain amount of focus and concentration. Perhaps he only has two modes of behavior at present, grief for Reubon and car theft, and just switches from one to the other, but no room for Charities problems.

You are right in that I like to see the best in people, might not be right to do all the time. I hope most people do

[lizann]

well done angel

[Dennis tanner]

well done angel

I still need to hear the details about why she was driving.

I alko need to hear the evidence as to why the driving was dangerous and not just careless.

Mandy should avoid getting her face too near to babies.

[Son of Cain]

I still need to hear the details about why she was driving.

I alko need to hear the evidence as to why the driving was dangerous and not just careless.
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You would think the police officer doing the interview would have asked why. Did Angel say she wanted to drive or did Cathy ask, or force her, to. Heath did say Cathy was driving to slow, but I do not understand how Angel, an even less experienced driver would go any faster. It does not really make sense. As usual they come up with plots but execute them badly.

If you are an inexperience driver, driving without a licence, I would think that is dangerous, although I do not know how the law makes the distinction. I still think Cathy is mostly to blame, so will be interesting to see how she is punished compared to Angel.

[Dennis tanner]

You would think the police officer doing the interview would have asked why. Did Angel say she wanted to drive or did Cathy ask, or force her, to. Heath did say Cathy was driving to slow, but I do not understand how Angel, an even less experienced driver would go any faster. It does not really make sense. As usual they come up with plots but execute them badly.

If you are an inexperience driver, driving without a licence, I would think that is dangerous, although I do not know how the law makes the distinction. I still think Cathy is mostly to blame, so will be interesting to see how she is punished compared to Angel.

The bit in bold sums it all up.

[lizann]

cathy should be getting charged with stealing a car, driving with out a licence at least

[Dennis tanner]

cathy should be getting charged with stealing a car, driving with out a licence at least and no insurance... But Bob now says that it wasn't her fault at all

[johntrevor]

and no insurance... But Bob now says that it wasn't her fault at all

Of course Cathy was to blame for the events that LED UP to the death of Heath, but Angel was the one driving at the time of the death, as she has admitted.

[Son of Cain]

Of course Cathy was to blame for the events that LED UP to the death of Heath, but Angel was the one driving at the time of the death, as she has admitted.

I would say that Cathy was mostly to blame for Heath's death. It was not Angel's idea to take the car, it was not her who stole the keys. Bob is just relieved that Cathy was not driving and is now acting like she is not to blame. I can understand Cathy feeling she is not to blame, as she is in denial. But Bob should still be recognizing her part in the crash, and her responsibility for it. But Bob has never been someone who thinks thing through, he has always been someone that acts impulsively, without any deep thought. We still do not know why Angel was driving, or if it was her idea to do so. I do hope they explain this, and not just leave it that she was driving. I find it totally unrealistic that neither Nicola or Jimmy have asked her why.

[Dennis tanner]

I would say that Cathy was mostly to blame for Heath's death. It was not Angel's idea to take the car, it was not her who stole the keys. Bob is just relieved that Cathy was not driving and is now acting like she is not to blame. I can understand Cathy feeling she is not to blame, as she is in denial. But Bob should still be recognizing her part in the crash, and her responsibility for it. But Bob has never been someone who thinks thing through, he has always been someone that acts impulsively, without any deep thought. We still do not know why Angel was driving, or if it was her idea to do so. I do hope they explain this, and not just leave it that she was driving. I find it totally unrealistic that neither Nicola or Jimmy have asked her why.

Totally agree and it's also very annoying.

[Son of Cain]

So now Cathy is seen as a victim by everyone except Nicola. Even when Nicola pointed out to Laurel, that if Cathy had not taken the car, Heath would still be alive, Laurel still attached no blame to Cathy. It just gets worse.

[Son of Cain]

Is Aaron's plan to get sent to prison to be with Rob?

[Son of Cain]

That must have been a quick change over on the couch between Tracey and Ruby. A whole new meaning to "Speed Dating".

[Son of Cain]

I see why Jai hates Amit, but I must have missed why Gabby should not go into business with him.

[lizann]

That must have been a quick change over on the couch between Tracey and Ruby. A whole new meaning to "Speed Dating".

caleb is a fast mover

[katie hunter]

Cathy stole the car in the first place and Angelica only got in the car to impress Heath. Surely Cathy won't get off scott free.

Why does Aaron have such a chip on his shoulder? Is he still grieving Liv or is something else going on?

I was hoping Nate was going to catch them in the act tonight and bring an end to this nonsense - no such luck. I was surprised at how close Caleb was to his wife considering they are separated.

[tammyy2j]

Why is Aaron angry, why does he just not leave again

[johntrevor]

Why is Aaron angry, why does he just not leave again

I don't understand why Emmerdale brought in a completely different character from the one that left.
Just hope he clears off and NEVER returns

[Perdita]

I don't understand why Emmerdale brought in a completely different character from the one that left.
Just hope he clears off and NEVER returns

The obviously wanted a change of direction for him... think it started with Liv dying, he is probably still grieving. I would like to see Robert back, I am sure he would sort Aaron out

[johntrevor]

The obviously wanted a change of direction for him... think it started with Liv dying, he is probably still grieving. I would like to see Robert back, I am sure he would sort Aaron out

Any direction out of Emmerdale would do me. He has been ruined. I liked him and Robert together, now he is despicable.

[Dennis tanner]

I have never liked him and never will. Poor actor and awful character

[lizann]

it's like aaron has reverted back to his beating up paddy days, self harming but wanting others to hurt harm him, his hatred of cain i don't understand

[Dennis tanner]

it's like aaron has reverted back to his beating up paddy days, self harming but wanting others to hurt harm him, his hatred of cain i don't understand

Livesy doesn't like anyone who gives him advice that he doesn't want to hear

[lizann]

tracy jealous of ruby

[johntrevor]

tracy jealous of ruby

Yes. How dare Caleb cheat on me with his wife. lol

[Son of Cain]

When Aaron said Cain was the head of the Dingle family was this an acknowledgement that Zac/Steve Hallowell is dead?

I find this fight between Aaron and Cain unreal, one minute they were battering lumps out of each other, then the next they were back to having almost civilized chats.

When Aaron was about to leave the garage then turned back, did he give Cain a kicking, as he was lying on the floor?

I do not believe Cain, an experienced fighter, would ever have turned his back on Aaron allowing to launch his cowardly sucker punch attack.

[Snagglepus]

When Aaron said Cain was the head of the Dingle family was this an acknowledgement that Zac/Steve Hallowell is dead?

I find this fight between Aaron and Cain unreal, one minute they were battering lumps out of each other, then the next they were back to having almost civilized chats.

When Aaron was about to leave the garage then turned back, did he give Cain a kicking, as he was lying on the floor?

I do not believe Cain, an experienced fighter, would ever have turned his back on Aaron allowing to launch his cowardly sucker punch attack.

Cain is in good hands in Hotten General, they will have him back on his feet and working in the garage again in a day or two.

[Perdita]

When Aaron said Cain was the head of the Dingle family was this an acknowledgement that Zac/Steve Hallowell is dead?

I find this fight between Aaron and Cain unreal, one minute they were battering lumps out of each other, then the next they were back to having almost civilized chats.

When Aaron was about to leave the garage then turned back, did he give Cain a kicking, as he was lying on the floor?

I do not believe Cain, an experienced fighter, would ever have turned his back on Aaron allowing to launch his cowardly sucker punch attack.

I think he was trying to knock some sense into Aaron but he is family so you do not go too far... Aaron does not seem to give a rat's tutu about his family at the moment ... until he saw Cain collapse the next day.. Maybe the fact that he could have died reminded him of Liv's death and maybe this is the turning point for him??

[Son of Cain]

I think he was trying to knock some sense into Aaron but he is family so you do not go too far... Aaron does not seem to give a rat's tutu about his family at the moment ... until he saw Cain collapse the next day.. Maybe the fact that he could have died reminded him of Liv's death and maybe this is the turning point for him??

Still do not think he would turn his back to him, a lesson I learned when I was about 7 years old. I had a fight with someone in the school playground, fights at that age were not serious affairs, usually after a bit of wrestling. one would end up on top, holding the other down, and ask if they give in. I got the better of him then stood up and turned to walk away, he jumped on my back, then kicked me down the play ground. I never turned my back on anyone ever again.

If there is a turning point, I hope it is to turn right at the bus stop and leave the village.

[Dennis tanner]

Still do not think he would turn his back to him, a lesson I learned when I was about 7 years old. I had a fight with someone in the school playground, fights at that age were not serious affairs, usually after a bit of wrestling. one would end up on top, holding the other down, and ask if they give in. I got the better of him then stood up and turned to walk away, he jumped on my back, then kicked me down the play ground. I never turned my back on anyone ever again.

If there is a turning point, I hope it is to turn right at the bus stop and leave the village.

Cain had a problem. He had knocked Livesy to the ground and he had overpowered him. He considered hitting him with a large spanner but realised that his sister would never forgive him. He foolishly thought that Livesy would realise that he was beaten. How wrong was he.

[Son of Cain]

Cain had a problem. He had knocked Livesy to the ground and he had overpowered him. He considered hitting him with a large spanner but realised that his sister would never forgive him. He foolishly thought that Livesy would realise that he was beaten. How wrong was he.

Cain did have a problem, but he did not need to have one. When he knocked Aaron to the ground he should kicked him in the point half way down the thigh which paralyses the leg. Aaron would then have found it difficult to get to his feet again, very few people will want to continue to fight with only one good leg, unless they can pull you to the ground with them. Cain only had to keep his distance to stop this. Personally I think Cain's first mistake was going into the garage where there was lots of heavy and sharp objects lying around. He should have stayed outside where he had more space to move around.

[Son of Cain]

Will Cathy be appearing in court along side Angel.

[lizann]

Will Cathy be appearing in court along side Angel.

she stole the car so should be

[lizann]

the dingles a shower of hypocrites

cain saying aaron like his dad was low

[Dennis tanner]

Will Cathy be appearing in court along side Angel.

Doubt it. Bob, Brenda and Wendy say she's innocent.

[Dennis tanner]

the dingles a shower of hypocrites

cain saying aaron like his dad was low

Both Livesys.

[lizann]

good scenes with aaron crying again but finally explaining his grief and anger and cain has lost cain

[Son of Cain]

So are we back to nice cuddly Aaron now?

[Perdita]

So are we back to nice cuddly Aaron now?

I think we will see a softer side to him again

[Dennis tanner]

So are we back to nice cuddly Aaron now?

Not for me. I want him gone

[Son of Cain]

How realistic was it, that the charges against Cathy were dropped. Still think she is mostly to blame for Heath's death, although Bob would disagree. Surely as a deterent to otherq underage drivers who take cars without permission and drive illegally, they would have pursued charges against her. Samson has already bought a car without passing his test, so no lessons learned there.

[katie hunter]

How realistic was it, that the charges against Cathy were dropped. Still think she is mostly to blame for Heath's death, although Bob would disagree. Surely as a deterent to otherq underage drivers who take cars without permission and drive illegally, they would have pursued charges against her. Samson has already bought a car without passing his test, so no lessons learned there.

Bob has obviously forgotten that Cathy was responsible for stealing the car in the first place. It is ridiculous that all charges against her were dropped.

[Dennis tanner]

Bob has obviously forgotten that Cathy was responsible for stealing the car in the first place. It is ridiculous that all charges against her were dropped.

ITV have far too much influence with Yorkshire Police. Cathy's head is safe for the time being

[lizann]

ruby throws a mean dinner party

charity must have a pristine clean house, the pstd from the killing

[johntrevor]

ruby throws a mean dinner party

charity must have a pristine clean house, the pstd from the killing

Already fed up with Ruby, ridiculing Everybody elses marriage when hers is such a mess. what an appalling woman.

[Dennis tanner]

Already fed up with Ruby, ridiculing Everybody elses marriage when hers is such a mess. what an appalling woman.

Never the less I found it quite entertaining. She asked the questions that need to be answered.

[Perdita]

Already fed up with Ruby, ridiculing Everybody elses marriage when hers is such a mess. what an appalling woman.

So far we only have Calebs word that his marriage is in a mess, maybe they have always had an open relationship.. they sure do not behave as a couple that want to be going their separate ways...

[lizann]

at least moira mentioned nickys geordie accent, different to his parents, i think ruby is jealous of calebs new family

[Dennis tanner]

Since he started appearing on the telly, Ruby has realised that Caleb has plenty of money

[Son of Cain]

Since he started appearing on the telly, Ruby has realised that Caleb has plenty of money

Did caleb make a mistake buying a house and letting Ruby move in. If they are getting a divorce. Ruby might try claiming half of it in the divorce settlement.

[Dennis tanner]

I know that Tracy no longer loves Nate, but it was wrong for her to expect him to drink that large urine sample she gave him.

[Son of Cain]

Was it really necessary for them to write Nate as shouting and smashing the photo. Reinforcing the stereotype of male violence. He was behaving quite calmly while being confused and upset until he suddenly lost it.

[lizann]

I know that Tracy no longer loves Nate, but it was wrong for her to expect him to drink that large urine sample she gave him.

it looked like frankie's sip cup

[Son of Cain]

Did the sten start in the morning?

I have never heard of a Sten, is it a really thing? Better than a Hag, I suppose.

[lizann]

tom has no friends

i thought he was going to go off with suni

where is ruby getting her money from, like caleb endless amounts, where's the money tree

[Perdita]

where is ruby getting her money from, like caleb endless amounts, where's the money tree

Caleb probably forgot to have her removed from the joint bank account

[lizann]

Caleb probably forgot to have her removed from the joint bank account

yet lied to nicky she was being evicted caleb did, she comes across posh high class snotty drunk not what i expected

[Son of Cain]

We are still no wiser as to why Angelica was driving. We know Cathy was driving when they left Emmerdale but do Bob and Brenda, the police and The Court know this, or do they think that Angelica was driving the whole time? Is that why the charges against Cathy were dropped. Surely Nicola and Jimmy would ask Angelica why she was driving, it seems an obvious thing to do. We know Heath said Cathy was driving too slow, but did Angelica volunteer to drive or was she "persuaded"? I do not think Angelica would volunteer to take over from Cathy given that Cathy is a much more dominate personality than her. Has Angelica told Nicola and Jimmy exactly what happened, or has she just left them to assume. She told them she was driving, and they just seem to have accepted it, and left it at that. No questions asked. Bob and Brenda are carrying on as if Cathy is totally innocent, even Cathy seems to be acting as if she is now. I think Wendy realizes that Cathy is partly if not wholly to blame but is afraid to say anything for fear of upsetting Bob. I hope at some point in the future Bob is going to realize the truth of the matter.

[johntrevor]

yet lied to nicky she was being evicted caleb did, she comes across posh high class snotty drunk not what i expected

Horrible person

[lizann]

nicola said Angelica drove to impress heath her crush, april saw cathy leave driving and both told the police, its strange that cathy got off all charges and Angelica likely to juvy

[lizann]

Horrible person

which one?

[johntrevor]

which one?

I meant Ruby, but Caleb not much better, and Tracy not much better either.

[Perdita]

The way Caleb and Ruby are cuddling up on the sofa all the time I find it hard to believe he wants a divorce ... :nono:

[johntrevor]

The way Caleb and Ruby are cuddling up on the sofa all the time I find it hard to believe he wants a divorce ... :nono:

More I think with wanting to control women, he was pretty much the same with Tracy, pushing and pushing till she gave in. He's just got to have control.

[Dennis tanner]

We are still no wiser as to why Angelica was driving. We know Cathy was driving when they left Emmerdale but do Bob and Brenda, the police and The Court know this, or do they think that Angelica was driving the whole time? Is that why the charges against Cathy were dropped. Surely Nicola and Jimmy would ask Angelica why she was driving, it seems an obvious thing to do. We know Heath said Cathy was driving too slow, but did Angelica volunteer to drive or was she "persuaded"? I do not think Angelica would volunteer to take over from Cathy given that Cathy is a much more dominate personality than her. Has Angelica told Nicola and Jimmy exactly what happened, or has she just left them to assume. She told them she was driving, and they just seem to have accepted it, and left it at that. No questions asked. Bob and Brenda are carrying on as if Cathy is totally innocent, even Cathy seems to be acting as if she is now. I think Wendy realizes that Cathy is partly if not wholly to blame but is afraid to say anything for fear of upsetting Bob. I hope at some point in the future Bob is going to realize the truth of the matter.

Good post. The main problem is that ITV couldn't be bothered to film the interviews. It's really annoying.

[lizann]

The way Caleb and Ruby are cuddling up on the sofa all the time I find it hard to believe he wants a divorce ... :nono:

given all his law legal contacts he would be divorced by now if he really wanted

im surprised ruby and kim haven't crossed paths yet, does ruby know what caleb and nicky did, forcing nicky straight to marry gabby

[katie hunter]

If Ruby is so desperate to keep hold of Caleb why has she only shown up now? She is an awful character, don't like how she is being wedged into so many scenes. Hopefully, she leaves soon and takes Vanessa with her.

[Dennis tanner]

If Ruby is so desperate to keep hold of Caleb why has she only shown up now? She is an awful character, don't like how she is being wedged into so many scenes. Hopefully, she leaves soon and takes Vanessa with her.

I would prefer her wedged into scenes than wedging Mandy Dingle into scenes.

[Son of Cain]

Good post. The main problem is that ITV couldn't be bothered to film the interviews. It's really annoying.

It has happening more and more frequently that when Soaps introduce a new story that they think about how it will begin, and how it will end, but give less thought to the middle, usually the longest part, and just serve us up with a lot of second rate, poorly- thought out filler. Eastenders has been like this for a long time but now the other Soaps are adopting the same approach.

[Son of Cain]

If Ruby is so desperate to keep hold of Caleb why has she only shown up now? She is an awful character, don't like how she is being wedged into so many scenes. Hopefully, she leaves soon and takes Vanessa with her.

It feels like she has just been introduce to add drama and a bit of unpredictability into the show, without worrying if it makes any sense. With Angelica leaving soon, and the car crash story coming to an end, a new story is needed. Be interesting to see how long it takes for Bob to get over Heath's death, and get back to being over enthusiastic Bob again. Or will he eventually realize "innocent Cathy's" part and apologize to Jimmy and Nicola for some of the hurtful things he said to them

[Son of Cain]

More I think with wanting to control women, he was pretty much the same with Tracy, pushing and pushing till she gave in. He's just got to have control.

Beginning think Tom is of the same ilk. I see trouble ahead for Belle wonder how long her marriage will last.

[johntrevor]

Beginning think Tom is of the same ilk. I see trouble ahead for Belle wonder how long her marriage will last.

Think it's pretty easy to see his atitude will only get worse. He has form from earlier when he pushed Belle to the floor and she hurt herself. The alarm bells were ringing then for me. He is very quick to go off the deep end.

[Dennis tanner]

It feels like she has just been introduce to add drama and a bit of unpredictability into the show, without worrying if it makes any sense. With Angelica leaving soon, and the car crash story coming to an end, a new story is needed. Be interesting to see how long it takes for Bob to get over Heath's death, and get back to being over enthusiastic Bob again. Or will he eventually realize "innocent Cathy's" part and apologize to Jimmy and Nicola for some of the hurtful things he said to them

At one time I could guess how a storyline would go based on common sense and logic. I find that it's now no longer possible.

[lizann]

was his car thief and beat down ever revisited, explained

[Son of Cain]

was his car thief and beat down ever revisited, explained

I do not think it was, there was speculation here, and by viewers, that he knew his attackers or that he actually set it up. Perhaps it was just to serve as an introduction to his odd behavior, when he did not want Belle to call for an ambulance or the police. I cannot recall if the attackers were caught, perhaps because we cannot remember the outcome shows how poorly it was written. The only thing I do remember, was that he replaced the car with a more practical vehicle, instead of an unsuitable flashy sports car. Maybe that was the whole point of the story.

[Son of Cain]

I think it might be Karma, Nate, but Karma for Tracey, for what Kerry and her did to Frank.

[Son of Cain]

When Tom would not answer Belle's calls in the morning, she should have taken that as a sign not to go through with it.

[lizann]

When Tom would not answer Belle's calls in the morning, she should have taken that as a sign not to go through with it.

nice to hear lisa for tinkerbell who has married badly

[Dennis tanner]

nice to hear lisa for tinkerbell who has married badly

But how did it help ????

[Son of Cain]

But how did it help ????

It pointed out everything that is wrong with her marriage. A lot of the things that Tom said were true, especially about Sam, but he did not need to say it out loud.

[johntrevor]

When Tom would not answer Belle's calls in the morning, she should have taken that as a sign not to go through with it.

Falling out on your wedding night and going to bed on your own, after telling your new wife to stay on the couch, are pretty good signs that this marriage is NEVER going to last.

[Dennis tanner]

It pointed out everything that is wrong with her marriage. A lot of the things that Tom said were true, especially about Sam, but he did not need to say it out loud.

I was on about Lisa's letter

[Perdita]

Falling out on your wedding night and going to bed on your own, after telling your new wife to stay on the couch, are pretty good signs that this marriage is NEVER going to last.

But us viewers knew that even before they got married ..

[Son of Cain]

I was on about Lisa's letter

Exactly, Lisa's letter was saying that she knew Belle would marry a wonderful kind man, and she has married the opposite. Belle is learning that she has probably made a mistake, the opposite of what Lisa wanted for her.

[katie hunter]

Ruby appears to have alienated Caleb from the Dingles. Cain is right to be angry at Caleb, but he is hardly one to judge - he has split up marriages in the past just for fun.

[Dennis tanner]

Ruby appears to have alienated Caleb from the Dingles. Cain is right to be angry at Caleb, but he is hardly one to judge - he has split up marriages in the past just for fun.

He certainly has and that includes his wifes previous marriage

[lizann]

Ruby appears to have alienated Caleb from the Dingles. Cain is right to be angry at Caleb, but he is hardly one to judge - he has split up marriages in the past just for fun.

all a bunch of hypocrites but that was ruby's plan, jealous of caleb's new family, get him away from them

[Dennis tanner]

all a bunch of hypocrites but that was ruby's plan, jealous of caleb's new family, get him away from them

Having him spending loads of money on his Dingle family would not impress her much

[lizann]

it sounds like caleb and ruby cheat on each other but always end up back together

nicky painted a different version of his mother, helpless poor victim madly in love with caleb whose house was getting taken, she seems to fine dine, wear fancy clothes

[lizann]

did amit just let rishi die to get the uncle's full inheritance unshared

suni is a hyper active annoying gay

[Dennis tanner]

did amit just let rishi die to get the uncle's full inheritance unshared He said Bye Yoda and pushed him

suni is a hyper active annoying gay Sure is.

[johntrevor]

did amit just let rishi die to get the uncle's full inheritance unshared

suni is a hyper active annoying gay

Well Amit certainly seems to know more about Rishi's death than he's letting on, saying, after that chat with his solicitor, that Rishi's death was a convenience.

[lizann]

liam drops everything to come to the hospital as cain asked

even cathy is wondering herself no charges

[Dennis tanner]

Mack needs to be discharged as soon as possible in case another Emmerdale resident gets hurt and needs it.

[Son of Cain]

Almost every time someone is admitted to hospital, the friends and relatives say, the doctors won't tell them anything. Would they rather the doctors stand around talking to them or get on with treating the patient.

[katie hunter]

Mack needs to be discharged as soon as possible in case another Emmerdale resident gets hurt and needs it.

He will be back working in the garage next Tuesday.

[katie hunter]

Why did the Police interview Charity when it was clear she was traumatised? No offer of her seeing a doctor or anyone even checking on her welfare?

[Dennis tanner]

Why did the Police interview Charity when it was clear she was traumatised? No offer of her seeing a doctor or anyone even checking on her welfare?

It's down the time they can keep someone in custody. She should certainly have been seen by the Police Doctor.

[Son of Cain]

A woman suffering with mental health issues, who has stabbed her husband, and the police let her leave the police station, to wander about, and find her own way home, still wearing her police issued track suit. - In what world?
Not sure about the last bit, was she wearing her own clothes when she arrived? My TV has just stopped working so cannot check.

[katie hunter]

A woman suffering with mental health issues, who has stabbed her husband, and the police let her leave the police station, to wander about, and find her own way home, still wearing her police issued track suit. - In what world?
Not sure about the last bit, was she wearing her own clothes when she arrived? My TV has just stopped working so cannot check.

Free to go and visit Mack as well unaccompanied.

Yes she still had the prison issue clothes on.

[Dennis tanner]

Free to go and visit Mack as well unaccompanied.

Yes she still had the prison issue clothes on.

For anyone interested. They will be available soon on Dickinson's Real Deal

[lizann]

mack already out and about

[Dennis tanner]

mack already out and about

One would suspect that he was never actually injured in the first place

[lizann]

i thought charity hallucination of mack

[johntrevor]

i thought charity hallucination of mack

Yes I thought that for a start. But no, when he said he needed to see Charity, he could hardly move when he tried to get out of bed, a few minutes later, after getting dressed and presumably jogging to Emmerdale, he had got into Charity's locked down house to talk to her.
Who wrote this total piece of garbage.

[lizann]

as always enjoyable charity cain scenes, they just get each other

tom might as well chain up belle to the kitchen sink even though she can't shop or doing washing correctly

i think sam would need and appreciate more the extra shopping

[lizann]

lol at cains jibes to caleb about Tracy's knickers

[lizann]

ruby going for cains nuts and oasis "insult"

[Dennis tanner]

Poppet is being silly. She needs to say to Gus. We have a deal. You go to the Police first.

[Son of Cain]

Are we back with nice Aaron now. I must have missed "the change",

[Son of Cain]

Poppet is being silly. She needs to say to Gus. We have a deal. You go to the Police first.

We all know the Hotten police are not the brightest, but surely they would not be stupid enough to fall for this. After all, was it not Gus who phoned them to say Rhona had kidnapped Ivy. If they do believe him now, I hope they will do him for wasting police time.

[johntrevor]

We all know the Hotten police are not the brightest, but surely they would not be stupid enough to fall for this. After all, was it not Gus who phoned them to say Rhona had kidnapped Ivy. If they do believe him now, I hope they will do him for wasting police time.

Yes it's strange Hotten has a police force that couldn't run a tap, and a Hospital that can have an almost terminally ill patient running a marathon a couple of days later.

[lizann]

gus is playing rhona

[Dennis tanner]

We all know the Hotten police are not the brightest, but surely they would not be stupid enough to fall for this. After all, was it not Gus who phoned them to say Rhona had kidnapped Ivy. If they do believe him now, I hope they will do him for wasting police time.

They wont need to believe him because he will not try to get Poppet off.

[Snagglepus]

I was watching last night's with tired eyes. Was Gus trying to get Rhona to take Ivy for a stroll on her own, did this happen? I can't remember how that part went, surely she would suspect Gus was trying to set her up for another kidnapping.

[lizann]

I was watching last night's with tired eyes. Was Gus trying to get Rhona to take Ivy for a stroll on her own, did this happen? I can't remember how that part went, surely she would suspect Gus was trying to set her up for another kidnapping.


yes build up false trust i think

[Perdita]

I was watching last night's with tired eyes. Was Gus trying to get Rhona to take Ivy for a stroll on her own, did this happen? I can't remember how that part went, surely she would suspect Gus was trying to set her up for another kidnapping.

He encouraged her so that she bonds with Ivy again so she does what he wants her to do... which is not in her best interests

[Dennis tanner]

yes build up false trust i think

Yes. False trust. I smell betrayal.

[Son of Cain]

What happened to Paynes Poppers? I have not seen them for ages.

[ccahill2]

Gus is a control freak and a snake and if he were sincere, he would be leading with drawing up a contract for shared custody. The fact that he wants her to drop the charges against him without his taking the lead and dropping the charges against her, to me, is a set-up to 'win.'

I am hoping that the charges are actually by Mary, so that even if Rhona falls for his antics, that they cannot be dropped without Mary's consent.

Poor Ivy. What a world she was born into.

[lizann]

What happened to Paynes Poppers? I have not seen them for ages.

who what?

[Snagglepus]

What happened to Paynes Poppers? I have not seen them for ages.
I've not been to the pictures since Flash Gordon and Hopalong Cassidy were on so didn't know they were not still available.

[Son of Cain]

who what?

Who, What??? - You have never seen or heard of Paynes Poppers? - You poor soul. - Payne Poppers were a chocolate coated sweet with a toffee or fondant filling. I remember toffee, mint and orange, these were my favourites, though I believe other flavours were available. They were about the size of a marble and sold in small cardboard boxes.

I have since found they are available to buy on-line, but I have not seen them in the shops for years.

[johntrevor]

Who, What??? - You have never seen or heard of Paynes Poppers? - You poor soul. - Payne Poppers were a chocolate coated sweet with a toffee or fondant filling. I remember toffee, mint and orange, these were my favourites, though I believe other flavours were available. They were about the size of a marble and sold in small cardboard boxes.

I have since found they are available to buy on-line, but I have not seen them in the shops for years.

Well said, I think it's an age thing, unfortunately..lol..I can remember them they were delicious, and yes you can still get them online.

[lizann]

are they sold in David's shop those sweets

[Son of Cain]

are they sold in David's shop those sweets

We will have to visit together and see.

Personally I do not think David's taste would be refined enough to appreciate them.

[Son of Cain]

I've not been to the pictures since Flash Gordon and Hopalong Cassidy were on so didn't know they were not still available.

Saturday morning pictures, I remember them well.

[johntrevor]

Saturday morning pictures, I remember them well.

Must be getting old so do I

[johntrevor]

We will have to visit together and see.

Good idea, can I come...lol

[lizann]

We will have to visit together and see.

Personally I do not think David's taste would be refined enough to appreciate them.

you are on mate, sweet visit

[Son of Cain]

Must be getting old so do I

I once won a competition, to see how many things you could get in a match box. Cannot remember the prize, probably free entrance next week and some sweets. Maybe even Paynes poppers.

[Son of Cain]

you are on mate, sweet visit

Did not see any there tonight.

[lizann]

karaoke always a good idea gail but missing bob for tom jones and kim for neil diamond

[Dennis tanner]

karaoke always a good idea gail but missing bob for tom jones and kim for neil diamond

Gail is great. Bob is also really good. I remember him and Vivian singing Islands in the stream on Stars in your eyes

[lizann]

so nate steals from caleb as caleb wouldn't buy him out of his own business, tracy was involved, takes two, wrong of cain and aaron to get involved, all hypocrites the dingles especially

[Dennis tanner]

so nate steals from caleb as caleb wouldn't buy him out of his own business, tracy was involved, takes two, wrong of cain and aaron to get involved, all hypocrites the dingles especially

All true. I doubt that Ruby would approve of them stealing Caleb's money. She see that as her job.

[lizann]

i had forgot mary and kim are good friends, we need more scenes of kim with mary and lydia

[Perdita]

I am sure Mary and Suzy will get together at some time...

[Son of Cain]

Why on earth would Caleb want to get back with Ruby, she is a nightmare. He should be afraid to go to sleep at night with her next to him.

[Perdita]

Why on earth would Caleb want to get back with Ruby, she is a nightmare. He should be afraid to go to sleep at night with her next to him.

I don't get their relationship at all... Caleb came on his own, then stated he is getting divorced however they are always together and intimate. Must be one of those cannot live with you and cannot live without you relationships. Just wish Ruby was less in our faces ....

[katie hunter]

Nate demanding his share of the business but I thought Caleb gifted it to him, I don't think he actually put any money in to it?

[Dennis tanner]

Nate demanding his share of the business but I thought Caleb gifted it to him, I don't think he actually put any money in to it?

Caleb was a fool and Nate is a greedy bar steward

[lizann]

I am sure Mary and Suzy will get together at some time...

good, vanessa is very annoying

[lizann]

Nate demanding his share of the business but I thought Caleb gifted it to him, I don't think he actually put any money in to it?

yes stupid

[Son of Cain]

I was beginning to think Kerry had gone bald. I understand that she left the ship with the clothes she stood up in, but I could not understand why she was keeping her wig on.

[Dennis tanner]

Caleb should stop trying to be a Dingle. He needs to give up on Emmerdale.

[katie hunter]

Why did they bring back Kerry? What's the point?

[lizann]

what did tracy expect, ruby wanted revenge, gabby wanted out

[Perdita]

I was beginning to think Kerry had gone bald. I understand that she left the ship with the clothes she stood up in, but I could not understand why she was keeping her wig on.

To keep her warm??

[Son of Cain]

To keep her warm??

Maybe, her hot pants certainly would not be doing that.

[Son of Cain]

I don't get their relationship at all... Caleb came on his own, then stated he is getting divorced however they are always together and intimate. Must be one of those cannot live with you and cannot live without you relationships. Just wish Ruby was less in our faces ....

I understand why Ruby wants to be with Caleb, to get her hands on his money, but not why he wants to be with her. He showed very little feeling for her when he was trying to scam Kim, or when he was romacing Tracey. I think this relationship will end up with a death in the family, whether it will be Caleb, Ruby, both or collateral damage Nicky. There is a madness attached to Ruby.--

[johntrevor]

I was beginning to think Kerry had gone bald. I understand that she left the ship with the clothes she stood up in, but I could not understand why she was keeping her wig on.

It was to look like Cher, she said she was doing a tribute to her on the ship.

[johntrevor]

I understand why Ruby wants to be with Caleb, to get her hands on his money, but not why he wants to be with her. He showed very little feeling for her when he was trying to scam Kim, or when he was romacing Tracey. I think this relationship will end up with a death in the family, whether it will be Caleb, Ruby, both or collateral damage Nicky. There is a madness attached to Ruby.--

If you are right about a death in the family, lets all hope that Ruby gets it first.

[lizann]

did ruby meet caleb in a care home?

[lizann]

I understand why Ruby wants to be with Caleb, to get her hands on his money, but not why he wants to be with her. He showed very little feeling for her when he was trying to scam Kim, or when he was romacing Tracey. I think this relationship will end up with a death in the family, whether it will be Caleb, Ruby, both or collateral damage Nicky. There is a madness attached to Ruby.--

i think ruby obsessionly loves caleb and resents his new family as she has competition

she'd get a good divorce settlement as it seems past cheating on both sides

[ccahill2]

I love Ruby's quips and find her to be a lot of fun, but she is definitively an abusive partner and in the early stages of trying to separate her spouse from all his family to isolate him for her own manipulations. I don't even like Tracy but what they did to her is awful.

Poor Mary. She's such a good soul and needs some loving.

[Snagglepus]

If you are right about a death in the family, lets all hope that Ruby gets it first.

I can't take to anyone with a slanty mouth.

[Son of Cain]

It was to look like Cher, she said she was doing a tribute to her on the ship.

But did she need to look like Cher in Emmerdale High Street?

[lizann]

But did she need to look like Cher in Emmerdale High Street?

more like brian may

[lizann]

kerry forgetting about frank

kim is no fool

where was kerry when chloe was in the accident and then back with harry

[Dennis tanner]

kerry forgetting about frank

kim is no fool

where was kerry when chloe was in the accident and then back with harry
She would say that she was all at sea

[katie hunter]

kerry forgetting about frank

kim is no fool

where was kerry when chloe was in the accident and then back with harry

Kerry is unbearable. Hopefully the police cart her off soon.

[ccahill2]

I haven't been watching this show very long. It's only been a few months but already I'm not fond of the Kerry character.

[lizann]

is there abuse in the past or future for ruby on caleb

[Perdita]

I haven't been watching this show very long. It's only been a few months but already I'm not fond of the Kerry character.

I don't think that will ever change...:nono:

[johntrevor]

I can't take to anyone with a slanty mouth.

Loved her threatening Kim with "you don't want make an enemy of me" quip. HUGE mistake, Kim just smiled. That should finally be the end of Ruby.

[ccahill2]

HUGE mistake, Kim just smiled. .

Kim is a joy to watch in action. Ruby just met her match.

[Perdita]

Kim is a joy to watch in action. Ruby just met her match.

I hope so... we have not seen enough of Ruby's background to really see what is driving her... I hope it is not just me that finds their attitude in ruining somebody else's life not a problem.. especially as Caleb seemed to have sincere feelings for Tracy...

[Son of Cain]

Once again a Soap uses the phrase "cold blooded killer" when Kerry accused Charity of killing Harry. Charity killing Harry was anything but cold blooded.

[Son of Cain]

Once again a Soap uses the phrase "cold blooded killer" when Kerry accused Charity of killing Harry. Charity killing Harry was anything but cold blooded.

[lizann]

has leyla made any comments on caleb and tracy

tracy should be grateful she has a job with eric at least

[Son of Cain]

Why did they bring back Kerry? What's the point?

Good to know that Hotten police have had their budget increased and can now provide a free taxi service to Cher tributes, but why on earth did PC Swirling need to use the siren. If Kerry must return at least they could give us a story that makes sense. Unless Kerry had a helicopter she must have jumped ship when it docked in a port. Liverpool is the nearest cruise ship port, so did Mike Swirling pick her up there, or did she make her way to Hotten and then blag a lift. Not so long ago, Charity was dumped on the street, in a police tracksuit, without her phone, and as far as we could see any money. and left to find her own way home. Does not bode well for the future of this tale.

To answer your question, I think she has been brought back purely to add more drama.

[Son of Cain]

Kim is a joy to watch in action. Ruby just met her match.

Ruby just met her match? - I would not be too sure about that. Ruby strikes me as someone that acts on impulse, someone who would lash out and think/worry about it afterwards. She is not someone I would want to upset.

[johntrevor]

Ruby just met her match? - I would not be too sure about that. Ruby strikes me as someone that acts on impulse, someone who would lash out and think/worry about it afterwards. She is not someone I would want to upset.

Yes Ruby is reckless and liable to cause a heap of trouble, but I think Kim is in a completely different league. Where Ruby is wild and unpredictable Kim is cold and calculating and has a whole lot more ammunition in her arsenal.

[Son of Cain]

Yes Ruby is reckless and liable to cause a heap of trouble, but I think Kim is in a completely different league. Where Ruby is wild and unpredictable Kim is cold and calculating and has a whole lot more ammunition in her arsenal.

All true, but may not help her if Ruby hits her on the head with a heavy object, which is something that I think is not impossible to imagine Ruby doing. In Kim's favour I do not see them getting rid of her in the near future, bit other characters may not be so lucky.

[Son of Cain]

Almost everything the judge said to Angelica could equally apply to Cathy, except perhaps death by dangerous driving. Yet Cathy was not charged, even though it was her who actually took the car, it was Angelica who was charged with aggravated vehicle taking. We have still never been told how Angelica ended up in the driving seat, just left to assume it was because Cathy was drivind to slow.
Has Bob ever acknowledged that Cathy was partly, if not equally, to blame? Bob and Jimmy probably best of pals again, by the end of next week.

[Dennis tanner]

Almost everything the judge said to Angelica could equally apply to Cathy, except perhaps death by dangerous driving. Yet Cathy was not charged, even though it her who actually took the car, it was Angelica who was charged with aggravated vehicle taking. We have still never been told how Angelica ended up in the driving seat, just left to assume it was because Cathy was drivind to slow.
Has Bob ever acknowledged that Cathy was partly, if not equally, to blame? Bob and Jimmy probably best of pals again, by the end of next week.

Cathy should have been in court. It is very unsatisfactory.

[ccahill2]

We have still never been told how Angelica ended up in the driving seat, just left to assume it was because Cathy was drivind to slow.
.

I logged in to say just this. I had been hoping that the rest of the story would come out at the sentencing. I know that she was wrong but it's a sign of good storytelling that I was really feeling sad for Angelica and for her parents. I was hoping for a miracle reason, like Cathy was feeling ill and Angelica just wanted to move the car to a safe spot, but I know that's my dream. It would have come out by now if that were the case.

[katie hunter]

Almost everything the judge said to Angelica could equally apply to Cathy, except perhaps death by dangerous driving. Yet Cathy was not charged, even though it her who actually took the car, it was Angelica who was charged with aggravated vehicle taking. We have still never been told how Angelica ended up in the driving seat, just left to assume it was because Cathy was drivind to slow.
Has Bob ever acknowledged that Cathy was partly, if not equally, to blame? Bob and Jimmy probably best of pals again, by the end of next week.

It was Cathy's idea. Cathy took the keys. Cathy stole the car.

It's ridiculous that Cathy has got off scott free.

[ccahill2]

It was Cathy's idea. Cathy took the keys. Cathy stole the car.

It's ridiculous that Cathy has got off scott free.

I understand that Angelica compounded the issue because she lied about it and obstructed justice, but Cathy really was the mastermind and was the driver for most of the trip, with all the actions spoken about in the sentencing verdict. She just wasn't at the wheel at the time of the crash. It is ridiculous, as you say, that she got off without any charge, because there is no equivalent weighting for the crimes.

[Dennis tanner]

I understand that Angelica compounded the issue because she lied about it and obstructed justice, but Cathy really was the mastermind and was the driver for most of the trip, with all the actions spoken about in the sentencing verdict. She just wasn't at the wheel at the time of the crash. It is ridiculous, as you say, that she got off without any charge, because there is no equivalent weighting for the crimes.

It would have been helpful if we had heard the prosecution outline the circumstances of the case.

There is also supposed to be a inquest into a sudden death.

Angelica just makes me so sad

[lizann]

It would have been helpful if we had heard the prosecution outline the circumstances of the case.

There is also supposed to be a inquest into a sudden death.

Angelica just makes me so sad

i was hoping a flashback as heath had on a seat belt

[Dennis tanner]

i was hoping a flashback as heath had on a seat belt

ITV couldn't be @rsed to show us or tell us why poor Angelica was driving and why the car crashed. Most unsatisfactory.

[Son of Cain]

ITV couldn't be @rsed to show us or tell us why poor Angelica was driving and why the car crashed. Most unsatisfactory.

I have said this before but it is happening more frequently, where the beginning and the end of a story are written but important middle parts are glossed over because they cannot come up with ideas to explain them, or do not put the effort into writing them.

[Dennis tanner]

I have said this before but it is happening more frequently, where the beginning and the end of a story are written but important middle parts are glossed over because they cannot come up with ideas to explain them, or do not put the effort into writing them.

You are correct and in this case I can only put it down to a lack of effort.

[lizann]

they went all out with october crash stunt where chloe survived

[Son of Cain]

they went all out with october crash stunt where chloe survived

Not only survived, but out of hospital in double quick time. On occasions when I have been in hospital, in orthopaedic wards, I have shared the ward with guys recovering from car and motorcycle crashes, that were there for months.

Did they ever actually tell us Heath's cause of death. He was sitting in the back with his seat belt on, still in his seat, while Cathy and Angelica in the front seemed to escape with a few cuts and bruises. The car hit a dry stone wall and although damaged, it was not crushed out of recognizable shape. I would not have expected anyone to die in a crash like that.

[ccahill2]

Well I cried heaps from today's show. I lost it when Angelica said that she's scared. It reminded me of Dorothy in the crystal ball telling Aunt Em that she's scared. And then my husband had to make me laugh by quoting the witch when her face replaced Dorothy's in that scene. He knows how I think all too well. He can never let me have my moments with my soaps. LOL

It was all very touching. Bob was fantastic today, as he was reading the letter. Then we had Nicola going to Bob to apologize. Everyone lost. It was all so tragic.

Then I lost it again as Chas looked so scared going into surgery, hearing her breathing on that gurney. Then I did it again when she realized that the cancer was out of her and looked so relieved.

I loved loved loved Charity going all Jack Nicholson on Ruby.

It was a phenomenal episode. I just wish I understood Angelica's sentencing and what actually happened in that car.

[Dennis tanner]

Well I cried heaps from today's show. I lost it when Angelica said that she's scared. It reminded me of Dorothy in the crystal ball telling Aunt Em that she's scared. And then my husband had to make me laugh by quoting the witch when her face replaced Dorothy's in that scene. He knows how I think all too well. He can never let me have my moments with my soaps. LOL

It was all very touching. Bob was fantastic today, as he was reading the letter. Then we had Nicola going to Bob to apologize. Everyone lost. It was all so tragic.

Then I lost it again as Chas looked so scared going into surgery, hearing her breathing on that gurney. Then I did it again when she realized that the cancer was out of her and looked so relieved.

I loved loved loved Charity going all Jack Nicholson on Ruby.

It was a phenomenal episode. I just wish I understood Angelica's sentencing and what actually happened in that car. I agree. It's just very lazy writing.

I also agree with you about Angelica. I have been sad for her for weeks.

[Son of Cain]

Another strange writing choice last night, Aaron getting a text and saying "She's out". Who sent the text, did Chas take her phone into the operating theatre, or did the surgeon send It?

[ccahill2]

I'm glad that Nicola and Jimmy are going to visit Angel, but I fear how horrible and revealing that visit will be. Angelica really seems like a good down to earth girl, at least for the few months that I've been watching. I suspect she's going to come out troubled and a lot harder, at the end of her sentence.

Although it was nice of Tom to offer to help, he's really horrible to Belle. He has no respect for her, her happiness, or her dreams. It seems all about how she can support his ego. He absolutely could have offered for Belle to finish her proposal and then to come join them and have fun for the time left.

[johntrevor]

I'm glad that Nicola and Jimmy are going to visit Angel, but I fear how horrible and revealing that visit will be. Angelica really seems like a good down to earth girl, at least for the few months that I've been watching. I suspect she's going to come out troubled and a lot harder, at the end of her sentence.

Although it was nice of Tom to offer to help, he's really horrible to Belle. He has no respect for her, her happiness, or her dreams. It seems all about how she can support his ego. He absolutely could have offered for Belle to finish her proposal and then to come join them and have fun for the time left.

You say you have only been watching a few months, so not sure if you saw the episode where Tom pushed Belle heavily to the floor and she sustained a head injury, she used to hide it with her hair, I think it's pretty certain that in the coming weeks or months, she will be abused by Tom again.

[ccahill2]

You say you have only been watching a few months, so not sure if you saw the episode where Tom pushed Belle heavily to the floor and she sustained a head injury, she used to hide it with her hair, I think it's pretty certain that in the coming weeks or months, she will be abused by Tom again.

Thanks for this, @johntrevor. I had that feeling. I just remember an episode where the family was gathered so that Lydia could ask if they are the ones who killed Craig, and I didn't know the characters well yet, but remember a younger woman saying that her boyfriend pushed her to the floor but it was the only time he did something like that. In hindsight, I suspect it was Belle.

He seems like a monster to me. I suspect that will be the next arc, as you said.

[Perdita]

Thanks for this, @johntrevor. I had that feeling. I just remember an episode where the family was gathered so that Lydia could ask if they are the ones who killed Craig, and I didn't know the characters well yet, but remember a younger woman saying that her boyfriend pushed her to the floor but it was the only time he did something like that. In hindsight, I suspect it was Belle.

He seems like a monster to me. I suspect that will be the next arc, as you said.

It has been confirmed by the producer that Tom and Belle will feature in a year-long domestic abuse storyline, so better prepare yourself for a lot more unfair and nasty behaviour from Tom :(

[Dennis tanner]

I'm glad that Nicola and Jimmy are going to visit Angel, but I fear how horrible and revealing that visit will be. Angelica really seems like a good down to earth girl, at least for the few months that I've been watching. I suspect she's going to come out troubled and a lot harder, at the end of her sentence. I hope you are not right but I fear that you are


Although it was nice of Tom to offer to help, he's really horrible to Belle. He has no respect for her, her happiness, or her dreams. It seems all about how she can support his ego. He absolutely could have offered for Belle to finish her proposal and then to come join them and have fun for the time left. Belle's problem is that she is too proud to ask for help and probably doesn't want her big brother sent to the Chokey for teaching him a lesson.

[ccahill2]

Who do you think will ultimately save Belle and have her escape? (if what I'm assuming is going to happen).

I'd love it to be Jimmy, taking responsibility for Tom.

but I usually think of a woman helping to sneak a battered wife away.

Kim's had some great talks with some of the women in bad situations recently. Lydia, Mary. However, I don't see her in the same circles as Belle. It will be interesting to see who is the one to help her.

[Dennis tanner]

Who do you think will ultimately save Belle and have her escape? (if what I'm assuming is going to happen).

Logically, it would be that nice chap Ethan who doesn't even charge for his legal advice. He should prepare divorce papers

[Son of Cain]

Who do you think will ultimately save Belle and have her escape? (if what I'm assuming is going to happen).

I'd love it to be Jimmy, taking responsibility for Tom.

but I usually think of a woman helping to sneak a battered wife away.

Kim's had some great talks with some of the women in bad situations recently. Lydia, Mary. However, I don't see her in the same circles as Belle. It will be interesting to see who is the one to help her.

Personally I do not think it will be any of the above. I think it will end with Tom attacking Belle and some how ending up dead. Either by falling off a cliff, electrocution, drowning in a raging torrent, some sort of car accident, or being impaled on a spike, possibilities are endless. But I do think he will end up dead.