Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[Son of Cain]

What the eck was Tuesdays double bill all about. Were the writers on Doug's weed. Pathetic.

Let's hope this is the end of weed story now Doug has burnt the last of it. The programme clearly suffers from having too many weekly episodes meaning they have churn out so many substandard storylines. Doug, Rodney, Eric and Bob have all been turned into comedy characters, and not very good comedy at that. Al, well I am not sure what he is meant to be, a cliched hard nosed businessman I suppose, but a bit robotic as in the style of Nate. He will no doubt prove to be no match for Kim.
I would prefer that they did not rewrite history of past events and instead look to the future. Is it because they do not have a laundrette in the village that everyone feels the need to wash their dirty linen in the Woolpack.
Has Aaron, issuing threats of violence to Luke, learned nothing from Robert's experience. Was Vinny drinking beer from "the wellie" if he is meant to be seventeen would they serve him alcohol.
The the thing that has really puzzled me of late is Nate's caravan. Has anyone else noticed that when viewed from the outside it was sitting at an angle on a small mound of uneven ground, but when inside everything seemed to be flat and level. - Little details but indicative of the the current attitude.

[Perdita]

The redhead in the Casino, played by Emma Atkins ... was she actually involved in the casino scam???

[Perdita]

The redhead in the Casino, played by Emma Atkins ... was she actually involved in the casino scam???

Just caught up on omnibus edition... looks like she was ...

[lizann]

The redhead in the Casino, played by Emma Atkins ... was she actually involved in the casino scam???

mandy must have got charity involved when she returned to give paddy love letters between his mother and wolf so yes charity is red involved

[Son of Cain]

Has Tracey gone away for a while, I did not see her at the Halloween party? How did Noah and the others get upstairs without Bernice and Kerry seeing them.

[Son of Cain]

Aaron trying to get himself sent to the Isle of Wight to join Robert?

[tammyy2j]

I like the Belle and Cain scenes

[Sheeratty]

I like the Belle and Cain scenes

Me too. I wish they had more scenes with Belle/Cain, Sam/Cain etc. We hardly ever see them share scenes anymore. I hope Zak comes back soon.

[tammyy2j]

Me too. I wish they had more scenes with Belle/Cain, Sam/Cain etc. We hardly ever see them share scenes anymore. I hope Zak comes back soon.

Yes I hope Zak is back soon, I wonder what he will do about Nate, get to know his grandson?

Is Nate gone, I did like his scenes with Belle also, him opening up

[lizann]

nate is working a nearby farm so staying close to daddy cain

[Snagglepus]

Nate is working a nearby farm so staying close to daddy Cain
Most probably so he can jump in and save Cain from a hiding when the gang catch up with him.
How long will he stay, the Dingle wage bill must be massive.

[Ruffed_lemur]

It was obvious that Lydia's sister was lying about their Mother passing away. Just before that she said that she had gone shopping!

[Son of Cain]

Mandy opening door with a credit card? - Do none of the writers have doors in their houses, because they certainy do not seem to understand how they work. The door opened inwards so there would be a door stopping on the outside of the frame, that would stop anyone sliding a credit card vertical down the door. Fire safety law in a office building would stipulate door stopping must be fitted to all doors. Even if there was no door stopping sliding it vertically would never open the lock, especially as it looked like a mortice lock was fitted. Even if a yale type lock was fitted, it is much more difficult to open than is usually shown in the movies, in most cases not possible unless the door is badly fitted.

[Snagglepus]

Mandy opening door with a credit card? - Do none of the writers have doors in their houses, because they certainy do not seem to understand how they work. The door opened inwards so there would be a door stopping on the outside of the frame, that would stop anyone sliding a credit card vertical down the door. Fire safety law in a office building would stipulate door stopping must be fitted to all doors. Even if there was no door stopping sliding it vertically would never open the lock, especially as it looked like a mortice lock was fitted. Even if a yale type lock was fitted, it is much more difficult to open than is usually shown in the movies, in most cases not possible unless the door is badly fitted.
Ah, but this is no ordinary gas meter thief, this is Mandy Dingle, a master criminal and impersonator. Look at the way she pulled off the Casino blag and smooth talked the solicitor into thinking she was Lydia. With her face the door would open with one look.

[Son of Cain]

Ah, but this is no ordinary gas meter thief, this is Mandy Dingle, a master criminal and impersonator. Look at the way she pulled off the Casino blag and smooth talked the solicitor into thinking she was Lydia. With her face the door would open with one look.

How silly of me to forget about Mandy's superpowers.

[lizann]

vanessa wasn't missed already back annoying

[Son of Cain]

It seems Amy really believes in 'forgiveness' she feels Kerry and her should be forgiven for causing Frank's death and that Dan should forgive Kerry for sleeping with Cain, but no, wait, she doesn't feel she should offer any foregivenes to Moira. - I never took to this version of Amy on her return but I now find her more and more unpleasant.

[lizann]

It seems Amy really believes in 'forgiveness' she feels Kerry and her should be forgiven for causing Frank's death and that Dan should forgive Kerry for sleeping with Cain, but no, wait, she doesn't feel she should offer any foregivenes to Moira. - I never took to this version of Amy on her return but I now find her more and more unpleasant.

is amy after cain or just wanting kyle away from moira and isac

[Perdita]

is amy after cain or just wanting kyle away from moira and isac

She is just a hypocritical annoying character, wish she would get found out by authorities that she and Kerry caused Frank's death and both get sent away to do jail time .. just not to the Isle of Wight :p

[tammyy2j]

Charity has no one else to help mind Moses only Cain in the garage, could Moses not stay out the back of the pub with Chas and Paddy and the new baby, I know he was ill so maybe away from the baby

[lizann]

both aaron and cain are as bad as each other, moses taken because of them, chas stop making aaron the victim, ross should come back and batter them both

[Son of Cain]

Wonder if Charity will turn back to men now she has broken up with Vanessa and if they don't get back together? - I was never completely convinced when she became a lesbian, as I remember it, this started as something of a joke to take the p*** out of Vanessa.

[Sheeratty]

The rehabilitation of Nate continues. So transparent.

[Snagglepus]

Charity is as much to blame for running off and abandoning her son when Cain told her he was too busy to look after him.

[tammyy2j]

The rehabilitation of Nate continues. So transparent.

I like Nate mixing with his family members, the other Dingles

[Son of Cain]

Charity is as much to blame for running off and abandoning her son when Cain told her he was too busy to look after him.

If anything she is more to blame, she has a long history of not devoting enough time to her children, and expecting other people to look after them. Noah has more or less brought himself up.

[tammyy2j]

Charity is as much to blame for running off and abandoning her son when Cain told her he was too busy to look after him.

I think if she knew Cain was up to his crime activities she would not have left Moses

[tammyy2j]

Charity was right in what she said to Cain, she knows they are toxic together but how can she stop him seeing Sarah and his kids, he has taken primary custody of them from Moira even though he lives with Aaron :p

[Perdita]

Charity was right in what she said to Cain, she knows they are toxic together but how can she stop him seeing Sarah and his kids, he has taken primary custody of them from Moira even though he lives with Aaron :p

Like always in soapland, characters are hypocritical... she went with Cain plenty of times before knowing it is not right .. .. another time and she will go with him if her ended relationship with Vanessa gets too much for her ..

[Perdita]

I am not sure but would somebody not be able to tell if bruises were made by a child or an adult? I would imagine if a child was grabbed by the arms by an adult, the bruises would be much bigger? :hmm:

[Snagglepus]

It looks like Arthur may have stumbled on some of Doug's cookies as his actions are completely out of character.

[lizann]

It looks like Arthur may have stumbled on some of Doug's cookies as his actions are completely out of character.

very turn of evil out of character for arthur

[Son of Cain]

I would image that when someone is released from prison it would be in the morning, not after dark.

[lizann]

would chas not have taken the baby to be examined if not feeding by a doctor or to hospital before now, or called dr liam darcy or manpreet to see eve

jacob the annoying teenage brat with the equally annoying bun just do one, can he not go see alicia in portugal

[Son of Cain]

would chas not have taken the baby to be examined if not feeding by a doctor or to hospital before now, or called dr liam darcy or manpreet to see eve

jacob the annoying teenage brat with the equally annoying bun just do one, can he not go see alicia in portugal

Oh! You cruel person, wanting to impose Jacob on poor Alicia.

[tammyy2j]

Oh! You cruel person, wanting to impose Jacob on poor Alicia.

Alicia is his mother

Jacob needs counselling

[Perdita]

would chas not have taken the baby to be examined if not feeding by a doctor or to hospital before now, or called dr liam darcy or manpreet to see eve

jacob the annoying teenage brat with the equally annoying bun just do one, can he not go see alicia in portugal

Surely the midwife would have been visiting her and would have looked at the mouth .... my granddaughter had the same problem and that was discovered and dealt with in hospital within 2 days ...

[Son of Cain]

Alicia is his mother

Jacob needs counselling

Alicia is actually his aunt. I thought was having counselling off screen.

[Son of Cain]

Emmerdale is really stretching our imagination to breaking point now - "A doctor doing a home visit in Hotton?
Is Kim living in the B&B now with Jamie and family now? Did I miss when and why this happened? Was I struggling to understand the latest tedious gangster plot at the time?
Is anyone actually happy in this "Village of the Damned" apart from Monty? - Emmerdale is becoming more of a miseryfest than Eastenders.

[lizann]

Emmerdale is really stretching our imagination to breaking point now - "A doctor doing a home visit in Hotton?
Is Kim living in the B&B now with Jamie and family now? Did I miss when and why this happened? Was I struggling to understand the latest tedious gangster plot at the time?
Is anyone actually happy in this "Village of the Damned" apart from Monty? - Emmerdale is becoming more of a miseryfest than Eastenders.

yes the tates are living in the b&b

[tammyy2j]

Alicia is actually his aunt. I thought was having counselling off screen.

Leyla is his birth mother but Alicia raised him as her son with Justin his real dad

[Perdita]

If Bernice is contemplating going to Australia to support DeeDee... why can she not take Gabby with her too???

[Son of Cain]

yes the tates are living in the b&b

But why? - Don't tell me they have 'The Builders' in.

Scenes of happiness and joy at the Hens and Stags but of course it did not last long, soon back to misery again. The curse of 'The Damned' strikes again.

[lizann]

If Bernice is contemplating going to Australia to support DeeDee... why can she not take Gabby with her too???

she has school and friends and family while deedee has no one out there, i thought deedee father remarried

[Perdita]

she has school and friends and family while deedee has no one out there, i thought deedee father remarried

Gabby's dad is dead, she has step-mother but no other family ... Where did Bernice get her visa for Australia from in that short time? :p

[lizann]

Gabby's dad is dead, she has step-mother but no other family ... Where did Bernice get her visa for Australia from in that short time? :p

brother sister aunt nana grandfather, visa won't be talked about

[Son of Cain]

Gabby's dad is dead, she has step-mother but no other family ... Where did Bernice get her visa for Australia from in that short time? :p

I don't think you need a visa to visit Australia, but you do need an ElectronicTravel Authorizion (ETA), but this can be applied for on-line and can be done in 60 minutes.

[lizann]

bernice could have asked liam and leanna to go

[Son of Cain]

bernice could have asked liam and leanna to go

Liam would need to get a locum to cover his practice.

[Ruffed_lemur]

bernice could have asked liam and leanna to go

I thought the same. Maybe she could ask them later on?

[Perdita]

Liam would need to get a locum to cover his practice.

They have Manpreet to cover for him

[Son of Cain]

They have Manpreet to cover for him

I am sure she would be happy to do double the work and patients happy to wait longer to see a GP. Bernice could have stayed and got married and then travelled immediately after the ceremony which would have made more sense and is probably what most people would have done. An extra 12 hours or so would probably not have made much difference, and would have saved the extra expence of another wedding. If necessary Dee Dee could have travelled on her own, she did come to the UK unaccompanied, Bernice could have joined her the next day. This has likely been contrived to support some "will they won't they get married" story in the future.
I am still puzzled why the Tates are staying in the B&B, does anyone know why?

[Snagglepus]

I am still puzzled why the Tates are staying in the B&B, does anyone know why?
Some of the scenes of them 'working' look like in the Tates house with dust sheets around as if they have The Men in.
Weren't they giving the house a make over to Andrea's liking.

[Perdita]

I am sure she would be happy to do double the work and patients happy to wait longer to see a GP. Bernice could have stayed and got married and then travelled immediately after the ceremony which would have made more sense and is probably what most people would have done. An extra 12 hours or so would probably not have made much difference, and would have saved the extra expence of another wedding. If necessary Dee Dee could have travelled on her own, she did come to the UK unaccompanied, Bernice could have joined her the next day. This has likely been contrived to support some "will they won't they get married" story in the future.
I am still puzzled why the Tates are staying in the B&B, does anyone know why?

I doubt that in real life Bernice would have got a ticket to Australia within few hours and she would need a visa which she would not have got in that short time.... I suppose if she had married Liam and then gone to Australia it would have meant a few more actors losing their jobs so this way they have jobs for a bit longer on Emmerdale..

[Son of Cain]

Some of the scenes of them 'working' look like in the Tates house with dust sheets around as if they have The Men in.
Weren't they giving the house a make over to Andrea's liking.

The scenes of them working I think are in an office in the yard on the site of the leisure centre, even tho' there has always been an office in the main house where Nicola used to work. I am puzzled by the dust sheets, they are there for set dressing I presume. Surely the house has enough rooms that they could continue living there during any make over.

[Son of Cain]

I doubt that in real life Bernice would have got a ticket to Australia within few hours and she would need a visa which she would not have got in that short time.... I suppose if she had married Liam and then gone to Australia it would have meant a few more actors losing their jobs so this way they have jobs for a bit longer on Emmerdale..

She would not need a visa (see previous post), with internet booking nowadays I think e-tickets can be obtain almost immediately if there is a seat available. My disbelief is that Liam did not try to persuade her to go after the wedding. I presume that this story has been introduced to allow Samantha Giles time off, is she appearing in Panto?

[Son of Cain]

Just checked on Goggle Samantha Giles has left Emmerdale, so presumably Bernice will choose to stay in Australia, however unlikely that would be. Surely they could have written a better exit than this.

[Ruffed_lemur]

Just checked on Goggle Samantha Giles has left Emmerdale, so presumably Bernice will choose to stay in Australia, however unlikely that would be. Surely they could have written a better exit than this.

Maybe, but she did tell Diane the truth. Hadn't the heart to tell anyone else, she said. They ought to be told at some point though.

[Perdita]

Maybe, but she did tell Diane the truth. Hadn't the heart to tell anyone else, she said. They ought to be told at some point though.

The truth will come out before long when they realise she is not going to return .. maybe in the storyline they will make out that DeeDee's dad is severly disabled which means Bernice does not feel she can leave DeeDee to cope on her own with that .. which would be the right thing to do, of course.... I personally never like it much when actors want to leave a soap they have been in for many years and have a relationship and kids as it obviously means divorce or break-up and kids left without a parent ... I do appreciate though that even popular soap actors want to try other work so these storylines will always happen .. somehow the scriptwriters rarely get an exit storyline believable though ..

[Son of Cain]

Why is Marlon selling scotch eggs to recover his costs, surely if someone cancels a wedding at very short notice they are still liable for the cost of the catering and any other costs incurred. Business is business even if it is with neighbours.
That drunken scene with Moira was horribly contrived, it did not seem real. Are we meant to feel sorry for her? I certainly don't, she has brought it all down on herself.

[Perdita]

Why is Marlon selling scotch eggs to recover his costs, surely if someone cancels a wedding at very short notice they are still liable for the cost of the catering and any other costs incurred. Business is business even if it is with neighbours.
That drunken scene with Moira was horribly contrived, it did not seem real. Are we meant to feel sorry for her? I certainly don't, she has brought it all down on herself.

Yes, Moira has but then the whole affair with Nate was contrived just to give Nate a storyline ... even less believable than Moira getting drunk .. just one of those bad phases most soap opera storylines go through ....

[tammyy2j]

Why is Marlon selling scotch eggs to recover his costs, surely if someone cancels a wedding at very short notice they are still liable for the cost of the catering and any other costs incurred. Business is business even if it is with neighbours.
That drunken scene with Moira was horribly contrived, it did not seem real. Are we meant to feel sorry for her? I certainly don't, she has brought it all down on herself.

Are the scotch eggs from Kim and Graham's wedding anniversary party?

[Son of Cain]

Are the scotch eggs from Kim and Graham's wedding anniversary party?

I don't think so, if they were Kim would have paid for them. Marlon said he had to recover his costs, so must have been for the wedding, Jimmy took 3 dozen of them, Kim would not have ordered that many. This is just the type of nonsense they have to include to fill 5 days of episodes.

[Snagglepus]

Will we not get to find the results of the DNA test after all? I thought there may have been a twist and Millie was not Graham's. Could the letter have been retrieved from the waste bin?

[linlam]

yes the tates are living in the b&b

Why? (Did I miss something?)

[lizann]

Why? (Did I miss something?)

is kim or andrea redecorating home farm?

[Son of Cain]

is kim or andrea redecorating home farm?

If they are they never mention progress in conversation nor do we see either of them dealing with builders or decorators. Kim did mention so time ago, I think shortly after Andrea's arrival, about redecorating some rooms to suit her taste, but suddenly they are in the B&B? Kim is the sort who would be forever moaning about how long it was taking, and most of her clothes must surely be at the house. Cannot imagine there is much wardrobe space at the B&B.

[tammyy2j]

Yes, Moira has but then the whole affair with Nate was contrived just to give Nate a storyline ... even less believable than Moira getting drunk .. just one of those bad phases most soap opera storylines go through ....

Moira and Graham are more suited even though no affair for her would have been better

[Son of Cain]

Have we ever heard Leo speak before, I thought he couldn't because he communicates by sign. Somehow I didn't feel the voice matched to him.

[lizann]

why did lydia's parents give her up, post natal depression for the mam? the mam is pushy

[Son of Cain]

why did lydia's parents give her up, post natal depression for the mam? the mam is pushy

I think her husband had left and she was finding everything too difficult at the time. They got back together later and the sister was born.

[lizann]

the mother is too pushy

why is rhona involving herself in graham and kim's toxic relationship feud

[Son of Cain]

Did Aaron have a ladder hidden inside his jacket with the spray can?
Are we to look forward to a new romance for Bob with Wendy?

[Snagglepus]

I don't think Archie would have acted in that way with Arthur over the tree decoration, knowing what Arthur is capable of doing to him.

[lizann]

laurel should be able to see arthur now detests jai and archie

[Son of Cain]

Is Arthur the most suitable person in the village to play "The evil landowner" in the panto?

[lizann]

arthur now the hero bully hope he is found out soon

[tammyy2j]

Leyla only noticing Liam now Bernice has left :p

[Son of Cain]

Well that was unusual, if not amazing, seeing Al clearing up after knocking the shelf unit over yesterday. Usually when we see that 'old soap cliche' of someone sweeping everything of the mantlepiece, desk, kitchen table or in this case shelf unit it all seems to be cleared up magically, by the 'tidy up fairies'. For once we see reality.

[Snagglepus]

Has the panto turned up at the outdoor centre, who was that playing Ellis?
Was hoping Aaron was going to have a brain haemorrhoid and be left in a semi vegetative state.

[Perdita]

Has the panto turned up at the outdoor centre, who was that playing Ellis?
Was hoping Aaron was going to have a brain haemorrhoid and be left in a semi vegetative state.

New Ellis is played by Michael Wildman

[Snagglepus]

Has the panto turned up at the outdoor centre, who was that playing Ellis?


New Ellis is played by Michael Wildman

I was meaning it was more like a panto, having an Ellis stand-in that looks nothing like him, they may as well have used David Metcalfe. There was no real need to bring an Ellis back.

[Perdita]

I was meaning it was more like a panto, having an Ellis stand-in that looks nothing like him, they may as well have used David Metcalfe. There was no real need to bring an Ellis back.

Not as far as I am concerned but I guess storylines were planned ant the sudden departure of the previous actor playing Ellis threw the scriptwriters ..a bit .. more than usual...

[Son of Cain]

Not as far as I am concerned but I guess storylines were planned ant the sudden departure of the previous actor playing Ellis threw the scriptwriters ..a bit .. more than usual...

I hate it when they recast a character, because when they refer to things that happened in the past with the previous actor the mental picture I have, causes a disconnect with the new actor. They could have just left Ellis in Dubai and changed the story line. The same applies when an character leaves, and at a later date they want to bring back that character, it should be with the original actor, if they will not return then the character should stay gone.

[lizann]

belle and jamie, is that happening

[Snagglepus]

belle and jamie, is that happening

Oh please don't let them make Belle a drawers dropper, there are already too many in Emmerdale.

[vapeat]

Am I the only one that does not see any chemistry between Jai and Lauren. She seems a lot older than he is. I will be glad when they find out who is doing the bullying - I hope its soon.

[Ruffed_lemur]

Oh please don't let them make Belle a drawers dropper, there are already too many in Emmerdale.

Hope not too. I always thought Belle and Jamie were nice together though.

[lizann]

Hope not too. I always thought Belle and Jamie were nice together though.

yes but he is married no more cheats, affairs

[Ruffed_lemur]

yes but he is married no more cheats, affairs

His wife's secret may come out though, and I can't see him being happy about that.

[Son of Cain]

Am I the only one that does not see any chemistry between Jai and Lauren. She seems a lot older than he is. I will be glad when they find out who is doing the bullying - I hope its soon.

No you are not, I do not see any either. I did not see any between her and Bob. It is just it seems Soap characters are not allow not to be in a relationship. The moment one ends they seem to jump into another one, with friends and family urging them on. They never seem to meet anyone from outside the village. Would be interesting to see a chart showing all relationships between the villagers. Have you noticed how often sex is openly mentioned now, Vanessa and Charity for example. It just fills out scripts and means that the writers do not need to find more interesting ideas for storylines.

[tammyy2j]

I am already tired of Cain V Nate

[Son of Cain]

I am already tired of Cain V Nate

Me too, and with moody Aaron and Wendy. - Altho' I fear Nate and Cain will eventually bond. I really feel Emmerdale are pushing the theme of 'foregiveness' too far. Vanessa and Tracey did not actually forgive Kerry and Amy, but they did so in as much as they did not report them to the police, and Kerry and Amy altho' expressing feelings of guilt and regret, are now carrying on as if they have forgotten what they did to poor old Frank. The idea that Cain, or Moira, would ever forgive Nate just does not seem possible, even tho' his family are now urging him to do. Likewise with Wendy expecting to be involved with her grandchild, Victoria's baby, is again unlikely. I can understand how difficult it would be for a mother to except her son is a rapist, but surely she must see how upsetting her presence in the village is.
Haven't taken to new Ellis either, he seems to bear no resemblance to old Ellis in looks or personality.

[Snagglepus]

So the Sharma's don't know who set fire to the factory or the staff don't know who lost them their jobs and stole the charity money.

[lizann]

So the Sharma's don't know who set fire to the factory or the staff don't know who lost them their jobs and stole the charity money.

they all think it was frank

[Son of Cain]

they all think it was frank

Yes, and the Sharmas were then forced to sell out to Kim. Kerry and Kim have a lot to be sorry for, but seem now oblivious to the damage they caused. Perhaps Soaps should consider the morality and ethics of allowing established characters to get away with wrong doing so often. Does not set a good example to young viewers. The only time characters seem to be punished is when they want to leave the show, like Robert.

[Perdita]

Yes, and the Sharmas were then forced to sell out to Kim. Kerry and Kim have a lot to be sorry for, but seem now oblivious to the damage they caused. Perhaps Soaps should consider the morality and ethics of allowing established characters to get away with wrong doing so often. Does not set a good example to young viewers. The only time characters seem to be punished is when they want to leave the show, like Robert.

Goes back to the question of how realistic are soaps in reflecting real life.... Never quite, I think, always have to make allowances for drama and of course, storylines need to be concluded a lot faster than some would do in real life ..... I do hope though that the truth about Frank's death will be revisited and Kerry and Amy will face judgment .. but not holding my breath!

[Son of Cain]

Goes back to the question of how realistic are soaps in reflecting real life.... Never quite, I think, always have to make allowances for drama and of course, storylines need to be concluded a lot faster than some would do in real life ..... I do hope though that the truth about Frank's death will be revisited and Kerry and Amy will face judgment .. but not holding my breath!

While I don't expect them to be totally realistic in reflecting real life I do want them to be believable, recently this just not so. Even in little things, like why on earth would anyone get a 15 foot Christmas tree for their living room. Or Aaron wrap a great big bandage, that will get all soggy when he gets his hand wet, round a small cut on his hand that wasn't even bleeding much. What is wrong with an elastopast. Makes you wonder if the writers live in an alternative world.

[Dennis tanner]

Nate is totally deluded. He cannot understand how Cain can reject after destrying his marriage.

[lizann]

Nate is totally deluded. He cannot understand how Cain can reject after destrying his marriage.

it takes two moira is just as much to blame even if not more

[Dennis tanner]

it takes two moira is just as much to blame even if not more

Of course she is but she's not the one who wanted to get to know her father.

[Son of Cain]

Nate is totally deluded. He cannot understand how Cain can reject after destrying his marriage.

What I find hard to understand is why Belle is putting so much effort into trying to bring them together.

[Dennis tanner]

What I find hard to understand is why Belle is putting so much effort into trying to bring them together.

I am amazed that Nate did not go after her as well.

[lizann]

Of course she is but she's not the one who wanted to get to know her father.

she just wanted plenty how's your father from him

[lizann]

sarah is truly a heartless spoilt brat like mother debbie

[Dennis tanner]

sarah is truly a heartless spoilt brat like mother debbie

She is a very silly girl and her uncle Noah was right to take those drugs off her ( But not right to take them himself)

[Son of Cain]

What hypocrite Charity is, blaming Graham for Noah's misfortune, if she was not running upstairs with Vanessa so often and spent some more time with Noah perhaps this could have been prevented. Even if Graham had come straight to Charity and told her it would probably have been too late as Noah seemed to take the pills soon after Graham left him and no one would know where to find him.

[lizann]

is nate's mam alive?

no zak back for belle

graham isn't daddy of millie so why confront the tates

[tammyy2j]

is nate's mam alive?

no zak back for belle

graham isn't daddy of millie so why confront the tates

Kim admitted to setting Rhona's job offer up so she should decline and also stay away from Graham, he was on a destruction path with Kim, Jamie and Andrea and he is not even the father of Millie

[Dennis tanner]

is nate's mam alive?

no zak back for belle

graham isn't daddy of millie so why confront the tates

Spite.

When it comes to that Nate, the Dingles are betraying Cain. Marlon is only badmouthing Graham because he has Paddy there to protect him :thumbsup:

[lizann]

What hypocrite Charity is, blaming Graham for Noah's misfortune, if she was not running upstairs with Vanessa so often and spent some more time with Noah perhaps this could have been prevented. Even if Graham had come straight to Charity and told her it would probably have been too late as Noah seemed to take the pills soon after Graham left him and no one would know where to find him.

noah told her some home truths but not about sarah and the drugs

[Dennis tanner]

noah told her some home truths but not about sarah and the drugs

and that is a bad mistake. As her uncle he should be looking out for her. Meanwhile Jamie Tate needs to get over himself

[lizann]

and that is a bad mistake. As her uncle he should be looking out for her. Meanwhile Jamie Tate needs to get over himself

i forget jamie is noah's uncle

jamie has been lied to by andrea can't blame him being mad

[Dennis tanner]

i forget jamie is noah's uncle

jamie has been lied to by andrea can't blame him being mad

My problem with Jamie is that he is always looking for something to have a moan about.

If Jacob want to look like he has short shair, why doesn't he just have a decent haiorcut ?

[Ruffed_lemur]

My problem with Jamie is that he is always looking for something to have a moan about.

If Jacob want to look like he has short shair, why doesn't he just have a decent haiorcut ?

Perhaps he only does his hair like that for the show? Then he can have it how he wants in his own time.

[Dennis tanner]

Perhaps he only does his hair like that for the show? Then he can have it how he wants in his own time.

OK but that doesn't answer my question. Why doesn't he have a sensible haircut ?

[lizann]

david the real daddy not jacob?

[Ruffed_lemur]

OK but that doesn't answer my question. Why doesn't he have a sensible haircut ?

You said "decent haircut" before. I don't know, and I don't think it exists anyway. Sounds a bit old-fashioned to me. People should have their hair how they like!

[Ruffed_lemur]

david the real daddy not jacob?

Not sure. David asked for the test result to name him as the daddy regardless. I hope we find out who it is for sure. So wrong of David to do this too! :nono:

[Dennis tanner]

Not sure. David asked for the test result to name him as the daddy regardless. I hope we find out who it is for sure. So wrong of David to do this too! :nono:

I don't agree with all this dad and daddy talk. It would appear that David is the child's father.

[Son of Cain]

Did Kerry wake up in the barn with touch of a Scottish accent - nae juice - heid on a spike

Altho' Moira admits she is to blame for her situation, she seems to make it sound like she is a victim.

[lizann]

Did Kerry wake up in the barn with touch of a Scottish accent - nae juice - held on a spike

Altho' Moira admits she is to blame for her situation, she seems to make it sound like she is a victim.

moira blaming nate not herself all nate, if she stopped drinking and jumping the young farm hands it be a start

[Dennis tanner]

Did Kerry wake up in the barn with touch of a Scottish accent - nae juice - held on a spike

Altho' Moira admits she is to blame for her situation, she seems to make it sound like she is a victim.

She is a victim of her own creation. I do however, sympathise

[Dennis tanner]

moira blaming nate not herself all nate, if she stopped drinking and jumping the young farm hands it be a start

I do blame Nate. He pestered, prestered and pestered untill she gave in.

[Perdita]

I do blame Nate. He pestered, prestered and pestered untill she gave in.

She was able to resist George without problems....

[lizann]

I do blame Nate. He pestered, prestered and pestered untill she gave in.

she didn't take much persuading, even pete warned her if she truly cares for her kids and husband her family, she'd keep her knickers on, same old same old for her affairs

[Dennis tanner]

she didn't take much persuading, even pete warned her if she truly cares for her kids and husband her family, she'd keep her knickers on, same old same old for her affairs

She actually took a lot of persuading. We now have the situation where The Nate Creature is trying to impress Cain by being nasty to her.

[tammyy2j]

Moira liked the thrill, lust and chase of being wanted by the young Nate, she bought sexy underwear for him, Moira likes affairs, being dirty

She should lock the farm house if she wants no one being around when she drinks

What did she expect Cara to do, side with her over Nate and Cain

I think Nate wants to protect his siblings Kyle and Isaac from a drunken parent and sees this as a way to close to Cain

[Dennis tanner]

Moira liked the thrill, lust and chase of being wanted by the young Nate, she bought sexy underwear for him, Moira likes affairs, being dirty

She should lock the farm house if she wants no one being around when she drinks

What did she expect Cara to do, side with her over Nate and Cain

I think Nate wants to protect his siblings Kyle and Isaac from a drunken parent and sees this as a way to close to Cain

I don't care what Nate wants to do. He is a real bad un.

[Son of Cain]

Does Amy have a job - if not, where does she get money for "retail therapy"?

[lizann]

She actually took a lot of persuading. We now have the situation where The Nate Creature is trying to impress Cain by being nasty to her.

no she didn't

what was cara to do, time out for nate :p

[lizann]

Does Amy have a job - if not, where does she get money for "retail therapy"?

david's shop

[Son of Cain]

david's shop

Forgot about that - but I thought she just did a few odd hours when David was too busy doing something else. Barely enough to pay her rent I would have thought, unless Victoria does not charge her.

I cannot get over how chirpy and cheerful she seems to be most of the time, she certainly serms to have got over the guilt of Frank's death.

[tammyy2j]

Forgot about that - but I thought she just did a few odd hours when David was too busy doing something else. Barely enough to pay her rent I would have thought, unless Victoria does not charge her.

I cannot get over how chirpy and cheerful she seems to be most of th9e time, she certainly serms to have got over the guilt of Frank's death.

I hate that Frank's death and the factory fire has now been forgot about, Nate knows he should tell Cain or Pete

I believe Amy worked in social care work in Belfast

[Dennis tanner]

I hate that Frank's death and the factory fire has now been forgot about, Nate knows he should tell Cain or Pete

I believe Amy worked in social care work in BelfastFrank's death was an accident as a result of a burglary

[Son of Cain]

Frank's death was an accident as a result of a burglary

Was Frank's death an accident as a result of a burglarly? Kerry and Amy caused it by breaking into the factory and destroying the CCTV which started the fire so it was not an accident but a result of their criminal action. Should this ever come to light, even though they did not set out to kill him, I am sure the law would hold them responsible.

[Snagglepus]

And was it £4000 charity money they stole?
They should not be allowed to suffer no consequences for their actions.

[Perdita]

Was Frank's death an accident as a result of a burglarly? Kerry and Amy caused it by breaking into the factory and destroying the CCTV which started the fire so it was not an accident but a result of their criminal action. Should this ever come to light, even though they did not set out to kill him, I am sure the law would hold them responsible.

Involuntary manslaughter is defined as an unintentional killing that results either from criminal negligence or the commission of a low-level criminal act such as a misdemeanor. Involuntary manslaughter is distinguished from other forms of homicide because it does not require deliberation or premeditation, or intent.

[Perdita]

Involuntary manslaughter is defined as an unintentional killing that results either from criminal negligence or the commission of a low-level criminal act such as a misdemeanor. Involuntary manslaughter is distinguished from other forms of homicide because it does not require deliberation or premeditation, or intent.

Not sure if burglary and destruction of CCTV is classed as a low-level criminal act but I would like to see both Kerry and Amy facing a court trial...

[lizann]

Frank's death was an accident as a result of a burglary

the fire was an accident but the robbery wasn't

[Dennis tanner]

Was Frank's death an accident as a result of a burglarly? Kerry and Amy caused it by breaking into the factory and destroying the CCTV which started the fire so it was not an accident but a result of their criminal action. Should this ever come to light, even though they did not set out to kill him, I am sure the law would hold them responsible.

The law would hold them responsible for the burglary which would include the criminal damage.

[Son of Cain]

the fire was an accident but the robbery wasn't

An accident = an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionaly resulting in damage or injury or that happens by chance or without apparent or deliberate cause. It can be argued that there no such thing as an "accident" or at least most "accidents" are not accidents. In the case of "traffic accidents" in most cases they are caused by bad or dangerous driving by at least one of the parties involved and would not have happened if everyone had behaved responsibly. The same could be said about accidents at work, if people were not careless, followed health and safety rules, or not taken chances, doing things beyond their capabilities these " accidents could also be avoided. Just because Kery and Amy did not intentionally or deliberately cause Frank's death does make it an "accident" and they should be absolved of any blame. Frank's death was the result of intentional and deliberate actions taken by Kerry and Amy.

[Dennis tanner]

So many bad uns in the village at the moment and I am sickened by the support they get from the other residents

Poor innocent Harriet is now being blackmailed by a thief and his daughter. She should take the other job she is being offered as the village doesn't need a church.

I am puzzled as to why Edna thought that Ashley would want that bible.

[lizann]

did not expect that cara

[Dennis tanner]

did not expect that cara

She clearly has no influence on her scumbag son.

[Son of Cain]

Getting fed up of self pitying Moira, continually blaming Nate, for the break up of her marriage. Certainly he deliberately set out to do this, but for her to say she was weak is no excuse, and does not mean she should be forgiven. There are some things that cannot be forgiven, same goes for Kate if he expects Cain to accept him as a son.
Why do Soaps feel it necessary to turn characters into someone who is unpleasant. A game I used to play when watching Eastenders, was to ask myself, which of the characters would I not mind living next door to. The answer was not very many of them. I find more and more Emmerdale residents who also fall I to this category

[Dennis tanner]

She would not need to keeping blaming him if he left. He is a very nasty piece of work.

[lizann]

nate didnt force moira to cheat with him, she made the choice, dirty minx

[Son of Cain]

She would not need to keeping blaming him if he left. He is a very nasty piece of work.

It does not look like he intends to leave so what is the point of her going on at him, the only person being harmed is herself.

[Son of Cain]

nate didnt force moira to cheat with him, she made the choice, dirty minx

He did not "force" her but he did persist in chasing her until she gave in. Like she says herself, she was weak, but constantly blaming him is not going to change anying, for her own sake she has to accept responsibility for what has happened and move on.

[Dennis tanner]

It does not look like he intends to leave so what is the point of her going on at him, the only person being harmed is herself.

All true but thanks to him, she now has mental health issues.

[lizann]

He did not "force" her but he did persist in chasing her until she gave in. Like she says herself, she was weak, but constantly blaming him is not going to change anying, for her own sake she has to accept responsibility for what has happened and move on.

she is always weak for affairs, moira is a murderer and serial cheat, she cannot solely blame nate and now picking on cain's family for siding with him and nate

[Dennis tanner]

she is always weak for affairs, moira is a murderer and serial cheat, she cannot solely blame nate and now picking on cain's family for siding with him and nate

I disagree that she is a murderer. She just helped someone to commit suicide.

[lizann]

All true but thanks to him, she now has mental health issues.

she is a drunk as her marriage is over as she cheated

she was nasty in her dingle comments

[Dennis tanner]

she is a drunk as her marriage is over as she cheated

she was nasty in her dingle comments

People with mental halth issues can tend to react badly

[lizann]

All true but thanks to him, she now has mental health issues.

what issues, keeping her drawers on?

if moira really wants her family back then solely blaming nate, drinking and being nasty about the dingles is not the way to go about it, own up take responsibility for her actions

[Dennis tanner]

what issues, keeping her drawers on?

if moira really wants her family back then solely blaming nate, drinking and being nasty about the dingles is not the way to go about it, own up take responsibility for her actions

The best solution is for that Nate to leave and never come back.

[Son of Cain]

The best solution is for that Nate to leave and never come back.

Even if Nate left it does not mean Cain would forgive her. The best solution for her is is to try for access/ custody of the children through the courts.

[Perdita]

Even if Nate left it does not mean Cain would forgive her. The best solution for her is is to try for access/ custody of the children through the courts.

She needs to clean up her act first before going to the courts because at the moment there are too many people that will not support her..

[Dennis tanner]

Even if Nate left it does not mean Cain would forgive her. The best solution for her is is to try for access/ custody of the children through the courts.

That Nate needs to be got out of the way before any possibility of a fresh start.

[lizann]

That Nate needs to be got out of the way before any possibility of a fresh start.

even if nate goes she will find some one else to drop her drawers for another affair

nate wants to farm and get to know the dingles

[lizann]

hahaha that backfired moira

did graham beat up ryan

[Dennis tanner]

even if nate goes she will find some one else to drop her drawers for another affair

nate wants to farm and get to know the dingles

Tough. He should have acted hoinestly and not seduced his father's wife.

[Dennis tanner]

hahaha that backfired moira

did graham beat up ryan

I hope not. I can't understand this 'teaser' where Graham is running away from people. The real Graham would not be running away from anyone.

[Snagglepus]

Aaron going to partys with strange men... his mother needs to have a word with him.

[tammyy2j]

Graham holds Ryan hostage no wonder he is on Charity's hit list :p

[tammyy2j]

All true but thanks to him, she now has mental health issues.

Who Moira?

[lizann]

Tough. He should have acted hoinestly and not seduced his father's wife.

didn't take much seducing, she was well up for it

[Son of Cain]

Someone needs to give Aaron a slap.

I really can't take to the new Ellis. - When a character leaves, they should stay left unless the original actor agrees to come back.

[lizann]

did belle and jamie do the deed already?

liv acts like a parent to aaron

[Dennis tanner]

Someone needs to give Aaron a slap.

and someone should give his gobby sister a slap.

Why does Deluded Diane think that Seb's mother should not have custody of her own child ?

[Son of Cain]

All true but thanks to him, she now has mental health issues.

There are "Mental Health Issues" and there are "Mental Health Issues". It could be said we all have mental health issues to some degree, but most of us manage to cope without wallowing in self pity and being vindictive to others. Moira may have mental health issues now but I personally do not think they excuse her recent behavior.

[Perdita]

There are "Mental Health Issues" and there are "Mental Health Issues". It could be said we all have mental health issues to some degree, but most of us manage to cope without wallowing in self pity and being vindictive to others. Moira may have mental health issues now but I personally do not think they excuse her recent behavior.

She should get professional help, she has been through a lot, not all of it her fault ... I hope the stay with Granny Barton is of benefit and she comes back more of the old Moira who was kind and caring

[lizann]

There are "Mental Health Issues" and there are "Mental Health Issues". It could be said we all have mental health issues to some degree, but most of us manage to cope without wallowing in self pity and being vindictive to others. Moira may have mental health issues now but I personally do not think they excuse her recent behavior.

she can't blame her mental health for her affairs including nate affair, he pursued her for revenge she pursued him for the excitement, the mental issues for moira after isaac birth and killing emma was very briefly looked at

[Dennis tanner]

she can't blame her mental health for her affairs including nate affair, he pursued her for revenge she pursued him for the excitement, the mental issues for moira after isaac birth and killing emma was very briefly looked at

I don't recall her persuing him at all.

[lizann]

I don't recall her persuing him at all.

she bought sexy underwear for him and seduced him in his caravan, she chased him too

[Dennis tanner]

she bought sexy underwear for him and seduced him in his caravan, she chased him too

I must have missed that episode.

[lizann]

surely the engineer who fitted the zip wire can tell kim the difference between al who signed off as jai knowing it was unsafe, why did al do it, stitch up jai?

[Dennis tanner]

surely the engineer who fitted the zip wire can tell kim the difference between al who signed off as jai knowing it was unsafe, why did al do it, stitch up jai?

I reckon so.

[Son of Cain]

surely the engineer who fitted the zip wire can tell kim the difference between al who signed off as jai knowing it was unsafe, why did al do it, stitch up jai?

I really do not understand Al's motivation for stitching up Jai, apart from being a "Soap Villain". Al was under pressure from Kim to have the Zip Line signed off, but I see no reason why he could not just have told her the parts for the brake were not available. Strange that Kim who trusts no one, just takes Al's word that Jai signed it off. Why would Al phone the engineer to come and fit the brake if he thought work on the zip line was finished. If as he now says he knew it wasn't why would he have agreed to put on a demo for the Trail Escapes guy. Jai is a share holder but Al acts like he is his boss. I am not sure how many shares Jai has, but I sure Kim said to Al recently that he (Al) only had 1%, which surely means Jai is in a superior position. Years ago I worked a childen's adventure playground and we had a much higher, much scarier zip line, with no safety lines than they have. Personally I would have been quite happy to see the new Ellis slam into a tree. HOP seems as exciting as a wet winter Sunday afternoon in Margate. As usual Soap's idea of running a business leaves a lot to the imagination. Personally I would not trust Jai, Al or Kim to run a tombola stall at a church fete.

[lizann]

good the engineer told kim this fast

who took the passport of leo, i dont get rhona wanting to leave with graham who she barely knows and who lies constantly to her, does she remember what happened with pierce who she sorta knew better

[Dennis tanner]

That Jamie is very wimpish and a massive moaner. If the village didn't already have a Jimmy, he would be able to ditch the Jamie name

[Son of Cain]

Have Graham and Kim had a divorce? I cannot remember if they have. The screen shot of the Home Farm bank account showed the name Miss Kim Tate. If they are still married should it have been Mrs Kim Foster?

[Perdita]

Have Graham and Kim had a divorce? I cannot remember if they have. The screen shot of the Home Farm bank account showed the name Miss Kim Tate. If they are still married should it have been Mrs Kim Foster?

These days women do not always take on their husband's surname upon marriage ... Kim might also have kept the name Tate for her business accounts....

[lizann]

Have Graham and Kim had a divorce? I cannot remember if they have. The screen shot of the Home Farm bank account showed the name Miss Kim Tate. If they are still married should it have been Mrs Kim Foster?

guess she'll always go as kim tate

[Son of Cain]

This week - a masterclass in OTT acting.

[Perdita]

This week - a masterclass in OTT acting.

Thank you, was trying to think of the word .. OTT ;) :D

[Dennis tanner]

I enjoyed tonights epiosede. It was excellent

[lizann]

im finding the week a bore yawn fest

[Son of Cain]

im finding the week a bore yawn fest

As usual when they have these "big weeks" they go over the top with the drama, when wide eyed screaming and shouting is substituted for good writing and acting. Even Ryan could have broke out of that shed, instead of spouting nonsense about Moses being able to open the lock, which was a bolt on the outside of the door no one could have opened from the inside, he could have smashed through the wall. Anyone who has ever had a garden shed will know how flimsy they are it, it does not take much force to dislodge the nails holding them together.
So far we have seen three "deaths" for Graham, he can only die once, unless the first two attemps were unsuccessful and they are lining up to have a go. Presumably we will see another two "deaths" on a man who we are lead to believe was Special Forces, and now seems to have become so weak that almost anyone in the village can take him down. It is unlikely the culprit will be one of the regular long term characters, unless we are going to see another case of a killer escaping justice. Presumably next week we will have an Eastender style "truth episode" when all will be revealed. Altho it is possible his death will remain a mystery.
Looking forward to tonight's "death".

[Snagglepus]

I was watching tonight and thought to myself there has been no mention of Pierce since Rhona was told of his release, and why hasn't she told Marlon that is the reason she want to move to France.

[Son of Cain]

I was watching tonight and thought to myself there has been no mention of Pierce since Rhona was told of his release, and why hasn't she told Marlon that is the reason she want to move to France.

I had forgotten about Pierce. I have been overwhelmed by this week's histrionics and Marlon's impression of John Cleese's funny walk while he was running about like a headless chicken hunting for his kids. I suppose they wanted us to forget about Pierce to keep us guessing which one of the of the regular characters had done the deed.

[lizann]

I was watching tonight and thought to myself there has been no mention of Pierce since Rhona was told of his release, and why hasn't she told Marlon that is the reason she want to move to France.

she said it was kim her reasoning for moving as kim would not leave graham alone, made rhona sound jealous of kim

[Dennis tanner]

I had forgotten about Pierce. I have been overwhelmed by this week's histrionics and Marlon's impression of John Cleese's funny walk while he was running about like a headless chicken hunting for his kids. I suppose they wanted us to forget about Pierce to keep us guessing which one of the of the regular characters had done the deed.

Can someone remind me why he would want to kill Graham.

[Snagglepus]

Can someone remind me why he would want to kill Graham.
Graham had had a fight with someone last week, we never found out who.

[lizann]

Graham had had a fight with someone last week, we never found out who.

tonight flashback we'll see it as pierce

[Dennis tanner]

tonight flashback we'll see it as pierce

For me it was far far too many flashbacks and very much confusion.

[Son of Cain]

Can someone remind me why he would want to kill Graham.

Presumably because he is with Rhona, now we will probably have him stalking or trying to get back with her.

[lizann]

For me it was far far too many flashbacks and very much confusion.

stupid boring week, graham brought pierce on himself and rhona again by warning him off and beating him up, how was pierce out of prison so soon?

[Perdita]

stupid boring week, graham brought pierce on himself and rhona again by warning him off and beating him up, how was pierce out of prison so soon?

Good behaviour and maybe same prosecution team that Tracy Barlow had and there was a technical issue?? :p

[Son of Cain]

I was hoping that after"The Big Week" that next week we would get back to "the every day life of simple country folk" but I fear not. We will probably have to witness the incompetent cops investigating Graham's death and suspecting each of last weeks suspects in turn. Personally I think the writers made a mistake in letting us see Pierce kill him as now there is no suspense and it will likely drag on for weeks before he gets his comeuppance or even meet his own death.

[Son of Cain]

That is a really huge container of milk that Rhona has, looks like a gallon of the stuff, can you really buy such large sizes in the shops, in David's? Leo must drink a lot of of it.

[Dennis tanner]

I was hoping that after"The Big Week" that next week we would get back to "the every day life of simple country folk" but I fear not. We will probably have to witness the incompetent cops investigating Graham's death and suspecting each of last weeks suspects in turn. Personally I think the writers made a mistake in letting us see Pierce kill him as now there is no suspense and it will likely drag on for weeks before he gets his comeuppance or even meet his own death.

The big male detective was very very scruffy !!!!

[tammyy2j]

How is Marlon arrested just because Priya said he argued with Graham

[Son of Cain]

How is Marlon arrested just because Priya said he argued with Graham

I fear we will have a week of this, with each of the "likely suspects" suspected in turn. Who will be next? Jai or Charity or maybe Andrea or Jamie? They really did make a mistake letting us see Pierce do it, because unless someone is unjustly convicted we know the police will have to admit mistakes. Surely they would wait to test Graham's body for DNA before making an arrest?

[tammyy2j]

I fear we will have a week of this, with each of the "likely suspects" suspected in turn. Who will be next? Jai or Charity or maybe Andrea or Jamie? They really did make a mistake letting us see Pierce do it, because unless someone is unjustly convicted we know the police will have to admit mistakes. Surely they would wait to test Graham's body for DNA before making an arrest?

Pierce and Graham fought so Graham's body will have Graham's dna

I think if Jamie is arrested Kim would save him and tell on Al who also is innocent

[Dennis tanner]

I fear we will have a week of this, with each of the "likely suspects" suspected in turn. Who will be next? Jai or Charity or maybe Andrea or Jamie? They really did make a mistake letting us see Pierce do it, because unless someone is unjustly convicted we know the police will have to admit mistakes. Surely they would wait to test Graham's body for DNA before making an arrest?

If the suspect doesn't apear to be going anywhere, it's always best to get all the evidence before you start the custody clock.

[Son of Cain]

Rhona actually thought she might be HAPPY? - For goodness sake, surely she should know soap characters are never allowed to be happy.

[Perdita]

Rhona actually thought she might be HAPPY? - For goodness sake, surely she should know soap characters are never allowed to be happy.

Not for long, anyway ......

[Dennis tanner]

Rhona actually thought she might be HAPPY? - For goodness sake, surely she should know soap characters are never allowed to be happy.

Totally agree. They would have noithing to write about

[lizann]

how can anyone think marlon a killer

so belle got jamie in the sack

[Dennis tanner]

how can anyone think marlon a killer

so belle got jamie in the sack

How can anyone beliueve that Dominic Brunt is an actor

[tammyy2j]

How can anyone beliueve that Dominic Brunt is an actor

I do :o I like Paddy and Dominic who plays him

I am glad he is fighting Marlon's corner

[Dennis tanner]

I do :o I like Paddy and Dominic who plays him

I am glad he is fighting Marlon's corner

He's an awful character and a poor actor

[lizann]

did al get all his kill money from kim

[Son of Cain]

Rhona, Rhona! If only you had read the card that came with the flowers, perhaps you might have guessed that Pierce sent them, and saved yourself from this Miss Marple impersonation.

Finding it difficult to understand why Kim seems to be grieving for Graham. She never showed him much affection when he was alive and she did ask Al to kill him. I am sure when we first found out they were married it was said the marriage was a business arrangement so that he could handle her affairs while she was in prison. I am not convinced by her grief.

[Perdita]

Rhona, Rhona! If only you had read the card that came with the flowers, perhaps you might have guessed that Pierce sent them, and saved yourself from this Miss Marple impersonation.

Finding it difficult to understand why Kim seems to be grieving for Graham. She never showed him much affection when he was alive and she did ask Al to kill him. I am sure when we first found out they were married it was said the marriage was a business arrangement so that he could handle her affairs while she was in prison. I am not convinced by her grief.

I think she actually loved him but never showed it and I think he cared more for her than he ever let on until he got with Rhona .. but that might also have been more to cover up his real feelings for Kim ...

[Snagglepus]

Knowing that 'someone' came into her house and took Leo's passport, why didn't Rhona have the locks changed?

[Glen1]

Knowing that 'someone' came into her house and took Leo's passport, why didn't Rhona have the locks changed?The manner in which they all seem to just walk into each others houses ,I doubt some of 'em have even heard of locks.:)

[Son of Cain]

I think she actually loved him but never showed it and I think he cared more for her than he ever let on until he got with Rhona .. but that might also have been more to cover up his real feelings for Kim ...

Asking Al to kill him is a funny kind of love. Or perhaps she did not think he would actually do it. How much did she pay him, was it £ 250,000? Not a small sum.

[Dennis tanner]

Asking Al to kill him is a funny kind of love. Or perhaps she did not think he would actually do it. How much did she pay him, was it £ 250,000? Not a small sum.

I wonder if Al would have carried out his task ?

[lizann]

Knowing that 'someone' came into her house and took Leo's passport, why didn't Rhona have the locks changed?

does rhona still think marlon took it

[lizann]

cain and april is nice to see

nate now being a dingle not helping free marlon instead chasing tracy again

[Son of Cain]

What does Rhona expect to find at Home Farm? Does she think she will find an entry in Kim's diary "Killed Graham tonight, had a bath afterwards and a nice bottle of Chablis"?

[Dennis tanner]

cain and april is nice to see

nate now being a dingle not helping free marlon instead chasing tracy again

Nate is a selfish git but Mandy will be stealing the money that they raise.

[lizann]

has ryan gone into hiding

no one sees the hobo stranger stalking around rhona vet house

did kim not report the stolen account money

[Perdita]

has ryan gone into hiding

no one sees the hobo stranger stalking around rhona vet house

did kim not report the stolen account money

You mean the house with no locks on the doors? :wall:

[lizann]

You mean the house with no locks on the doors? :wall:

he has keys may have got copies

[Dennis tanner]

Why do these selfish little rascals make trouble for everyone.

[Son of Cain]

he has keys may have got copies

Surely Rhona would have changed the locks when she knew Pierce was coming out of prison. My theory is that he is a ghost who can pass through walls.

What's happened to Kerry, we have not seen her for a while, has she gone away somewhere?

[Perdita]

Surely Rhona would have changed the locks when she knew Pierce was coming out of prison. My theory is that he is a ghost who can pass through walls.

What's happened to Kerry, we have not seen her for a while, has she gone away somewhere?

Does Rhona know Pierce is out of prison? Graham knew as he got a phone call which made him warn Pierce off but did he ever get the change to tell Rhona? Would the authorities inform Rhona if she has not joined any Victim Support Scheme? Not sure she would be informed automatically unless she has requested it?

[Perdita]

Surely Rhona would have changed the locks when she knew Pierce was coming out of prison. My theory is that he is a ghost who can pass through walls.

What's happened to Kerry, we have not seen her for a while, has she gone away somewhere?

I have never seen her lock a door when she has left the house.....

[tammyy2j]

Surely Rhona would have changed the locks when she knew Pierce was coming out of prison. My theory is that he is a ghost who can pass through walls.

What's happened to Kerry, we have not seen her for a while, has she gone away somewhere?

Graham deleted the phone message that Pierce was released and did not tell Rhona

All Rhona knew is he was up for parole / release and at the moment she is clearly thinking only of who killed Graham that being Kim

[Son of Cain]

I have never seen her lock a door when she has left the house.....

Perhaps Emmerdale exists in a time warp, in the past. Older people say there was a time when nobody ever locked their door.

[Perdita]

Perhaps Emmerdale exists in a time warp, in the past. Older people say there was a time when nobody ever locked their door.

Yes, I have heard of that too .... but was around 40 to 50 years ago .. maybe there are murders, blackmails .. whatever in a small village but they still feel able to leave their doors unlocked... it is Yorkshire ...

[lizann]

kim taking legal advice from a stranger she hit in her jeep she invites into her home

[Son of Cain]

kim taking legal advice from a stranger she hit in her jeep she invites into her home

Probably why she is the successful business woman that she is.

[Dennis tanner]

Marlon thrashing about on his bed but failed to disturb the neat pile of blankets at the bottom of his bed.

April rewarded for wasting the time of the Police and the villagers

[Son of Cain]

Very uncharacteristic of Kim to apologize so profusely to a cyclist, especially as she had actually stopped when he hit her, and was actually still within her gateway and had not driven onto the road yet. Pierce actually had to swerved into the gateway to hit her. Normally she would have ranted and raved to the cyclist for being careless and damaging her truck.

[Ruffed_lemur]

Very uncharacteristic of Kim to apologize so profusely to a cyclist, especially as she had actually stopped when he hit her, and was actually still within her gateway and had not driven onto the road yet. Pierce actually had to swerved into the gateway to hit her. Normally she would have ranted and raved to the cyclist for being careless and damaging her truck.

Maybe she fancies him?

[Son of Cain]

Maybe she fancies him?

A tomboy, you mean. Thinking about it perhaps they would be well suited.

[Dennis tanner]

Arthur is a bit mentally ill

[lizann]

i thought sandy would be buried with his wife or son not in austraila or did he remarry betty's friend

jai already cured out of rehab

vic and luke is just wrong and is luke even a trained chef, i dont remember the pub being that busy for food

only now pete realises he will be living and working at the farm his mam went nuts in

[Dennis tanner]

i thought sandy would be buried with his wife or son not in austraila or did he remarry betty's friend

jai already cured out of rehab

vic and luke is just wrong and is luke even a trained chef, i dont remember the pub being that busy for food

only now pete realises he will be living and working at the farm his mam went nuts in That can't be right.

[lizann]

That can't be right.

true she nuts before but went super nuts there thanks to moira

[Son of Cain]

Double treat last night - two of the most overused Soap cliches in one evening.

1. Pete turning the table upside down and swiping everything of the mantlepiece. How often do we see a variation of this. At least this time we saw him tidying up afterwards.

2. That well used cliche, when one character tries to tell another something important, but the second character does not listen and talks over them. Laurel gives up and decides Jai is too weak to know the truth, of course this means she cannot tell Jimmy, so Jai continues to think Jimmy hurt Archie. Cannot wait to see how this will unfold.

[Dennis tanner]

Double treat last night - two of the most overused Soap cliches in one evening.

1. Pete turning the table upside down and swiping everything of the mantlepiece. How often do we see a variation of this. At least this time we saw him tidying up afterwards.

2. That well used cliche, when one character tries to tell another something important, but the second character does not listen and talks over them. Laurel gives up and decides Jai is too weak to know the truth, of course this means she cannot tell Jimmy, so Jai continues to think Jimmy hurt Archie. Cannot wait to see how this will unfold.

Yes. Both cliches are very annoying

[lizann]

where is archie with dan while jai in fast rehab

[lizann]

seriously vic letting luke babysit plus giving him no baby supplies

[Dennis tanner]

Victoria is being very cruel to Wendy.

Diane is a witch.