Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[ccahill2]

but why was joe helping ross look for steph

He's probably protecting his next kidney in case this one fails.

[Son of Cain]

It seems it is Cain's turn to be made stupid. If he wanted to find Nate surely the thing to do was to follow the van to find Nate's new address?

[lizann]

It seems it is Cain's turn to be made stupid. If he wanted to find Nate surely the thing to do was to follow the van to find Nate's new address?

yes was hoping cain would follow the van

now cain has given up looking before he really even started looking

[Son of Cain]

yes was hoping cain would follow the van

now cain has given up looking before he really even started looking

I guess they are trying to drag this tale out for a bit longer. If Cain had followed the van he would have found out about John.

[katie hunter]

"Hello, I'm a random stranger here to pack up Nates things".

"Yes go right ahead, I'll just wait downstairs fuming while you help yourself to whatever you fancy."

Do the writers give the viewers any credit at all?

[lizann]

did tracy not wonder why nate took nothing to shetland, where is his car?

[Son of Cain]

did tracy not wonder why nate took nothing to shetland, where is his car?

Was his intention to go there pernamently, or did he intend to return after earning some money.

[lizann]

Was his intention to go there pernamently, or did he intend to return after earning some money.

I think permanently as I believe Tracy and Frankie were going too until she thought he was with Moira again

[Dennis tanner]

Just had a thought you know in that flash forward we saw cain at a graveside what if it?s Nate?s?

Probably but why would Cain cry about him ?

[lizann]

Probably but why would Cain cry about him ?

guilt plus he was his son

[Dennis tanner]

guilt plus he was his son

Guilt??? Nate was the one who betrayed Cain big time.

[Perdita]

Guilt??? Nate was the one who betrayed Cain big time.

So was Moira but they got over it... I can imagine Cain being really sorry that Nate is dead.. a child is a child, whatever in the end..

[Son of Cain]

Guilt??? Nate was the one who betrayed Cain big time.

This is a soap, nearly everything is forgiven after a short time.

[lizann]

Guilt??? Nate was the one who betrayed Cain big time.

I meant, cain beat him up and disowned him thinking again an affair with moira

[lizann]

clemmie should have bite harder

dawn really is pathetic and a heartless mother, telling billy move out again over joe

[ccahill2]

I’m getting flashbacks of Tom and Carl with those scenes.

[Dennis tanner]

clemmie should have bite harder

dawn really is pathetic and a heartless mother, telling billy move out again over joe

I am interested in seeing what Billy does about it, but does he rerally want to get back wih Dawn ?

[ccahill2]

I don't understand what the show is doing to Manpreet. They're making her look pathetic and desperate. I always thought of her as tall and proud and somewhat flawed, but never pathetic.

[lizann]

I’m getting flashbacks of Tom and Carl with those scenes.

will clemmie push joe out the window

[Perdita]

will clemmie push Tom out the window

You mean Joe??

[lizann]

You mean Joe??

yes sorry

[Son of Cain]

yes sorry

No need to apologise for pushing Tom out the window, he deserves it as much as Joe.

[lizann]

manpreet being beggy and desperate

she should be another after joe for getting her to get caleb's blood

[Dennis tanner]

I don't understand what the show is doing to Manpreet. They're making her look pathetic and desperate. I always thought of her as tall and proud and somewhat flawed, but never pathetic.

After Rishi, it's all been downhill for Manpreet

[lizann]

a party for lydia who is a no show

[Son of Cain]

Very subtle - when Jimmy said "It's lucky no one died to night"- leaving all of us at home to shout at the screen "Yet".

[ccahill2]

I know that this is pure fiction, but in my own world, I'd like to believe that Dawn found Joe's former at-home dialysis machine and put it in the middle of the room to talk to him about it, and with his super great posture where he never looks down, he trips over it and that's what catapulted him out the window.

[lizann]

even drunk kerry could conclude joe took caleb's kidney

[ccahill2]

My favorite moment of the show (aside from seeing Joe on the ground) was Jimmy recalling Carl pushing Tom out the window with Belle dancing to Walking in the Air and saying that he'll never look at a snowman the same way again.

[ccahill2]

Chas looked exceptionally gorgeous today.

[lizann]

Chas looked exceptionally gorgeous today.

she needs to lay off the work, fillers and botox, charity looks naturally aged and where was liam and aaron

[thestud2k7]

I am not convinced Joe is dead yet

[Dennis tanner]

a party for lydia who is a no show

What was the point of her being a no show ?

Tate trying to walk in the air. Looks like a suicide to avoid The Chokey

[Perdita]

How come he fell out of a window but is on his front with the head pointing towards the house???

[Son of Cain]

I am not convinced Joe is dead yet

Pretty sure he won't be.

[Son of Cain]

How come he fell out of a window but is on his front with the head pointing towards the house???

Somersault?

[Perdita]

What was the point of her being a no show ?

Tate trying to walk in the air. Looks like a suicide to avoid The Chokey

Maybe it was Lydia that arrived just in time to push him...

[lizann]

Maybe it was Lydia that arrived just in time to push him...

well lydia knew about joe and dawn, her snooping for kim on him so perhaps she felt bad on poor billy

[Son of Cain]

What was Charity's intention with Joe, was she trying to kill him with poison, or just drug him? If it was to drug him what then, just have him pass out at the party, what purpose would that serve. I keep expecting someone else to pick up Joe's drink, and drink it, then we could have seen what affect it would have had.

[johntrevor]

My favorite moment of the show (aside from seeing Joe on the ground) was Jimmy recalling Carl pushing Tom out the window with Belle dancing to Walking in the Air and saying that he'll never look at a snowman the same way again.

As soon as I saw Joe on the ground, i thought at last my prayers have been answered.

[johntrevor]

Pretty sure he won't be.

Let us all just hope.

[johntrevor]

How come he fell out of a window but is on his front with the head pointing towards the house???

Exactly the same as Tom King, pushed on his chest with his back to the window.

[ccahill2]

I am not convinced Joe is dead yet

If not, I hope that he becomes a patient who Jacob is assigned to.

But I actually suspect Kim. She's annoyed at Joe because of Dawn. She didn't want him to live there but he ignored her and walked further into her home. I think she made the pact with Caleb and Ruby so that Joe is all hers to take care of. She publicly sticks up for him to divert blame from herself, but I would bet that she hired someone to take care of him.

It bothers me too much when they show weak or foolish Kim. I much prefer the Kim who takes care of her own.

[thestud2k7]

The whole Joe Tate return has been mess if you think about it his whole return was wanted to bring Kim down as soon will died be dropped that plan come on emmerdale don’t take us fans for fools

[ccahill2]

I never understood his purpose either. Surely Kim saw how conveniently he showed up right before Will took ill, and how he was just standing there looking and not doing anything after Will had his heart attack, almost as if he were intrigued by Will slowly dying. Will also told her that he wasn't being allowed out of a revenge plot. She had to shout at Joe to call 911 because he seemed to be enjoying the scene so much. And in spite of the odd timing of his arrival, his defying her about Dawn, his illegal organ harvesting, her telling him to get out of her house and his walking deeper inside, it made no sense to me. None of the pieces tied together.

I don't like Kim being dumbed down or being made to look week so that a story could be presented as the writers want, characterizations be darned.

So I'm in full agreement, @thestud2k7.

[Son of Cain]

The whole Joe Tate return has been mess if you think about it his whole return was wanted to bring Kim down as soon will died be dropped that plan come on emmerdale don?t take us fans for fools


I never understood his purpose either. Surely Kim saw how conveniently he showed up right before Will took ill, and how he was just standing there looking and not doing anything after Will had his heart attack, almost as if he were intrigued by Will slowly dying. Will also told her that he wasn't being allowed out of a revenge plot. She had to shout at Joe to call 911 because he seemed to be enjoying the scene so much. And in spite of the odd timing of his arrival, his defying her about Dawn, his illegal organ harvesting, her telling him to get out of her house and his walking deeper inside, it made no sense to me. None of the pieces tied together.

I don't like Kim being dumbed down or being made to look week so that a story could be presented as the writers want, characterizations be darned.

So I'm in full agreement, @thestud2k7.

Sometimes it is like they write these tales as a series of short stories which should connect up but do not gel together in a way that makes any real sense. As long as there are regular dramatic points they seem to be happy even if we are not. I cannot beleve Joe is dead as that would bring too many tales to an end. With Joe alive there is still mileage to be had, the old who done it, the hospital bed scenes, Dawn wailing and nashing her teeth and more moody misery scenes with Steph.

If this was Eastenders Mo would be running a book on who did it.

[lizann]

the fall surely would have reopened his kidney wound

that episode needed poirot or miss marple, seemed like a cast from agatha christie

[katie hunter]

Joe lives! Will we ever be rid of his smug face?

If Joe had been pushed, someone would have had to be strong enough to overpower him to get him anywhere near the window and push him hard enough to break the glass. Although knowing the writers it will probably end up being Clemmie that did it.

[ccahill2]

I'm kind of glad because I think that it will be interesting to see Jacob's dilemma if responding to a code if Joe is in crisis.

I don't think that Jacob would ever recover if he did go through killing Joe, or withholding treatment, but I think that having considered it and realizing that he is better than that will help him with his grief for Laila.

[ccahill2]

Take a look at the promo photos versus what we see in the show. They are different shots.

The stills posted make the blood on his cheek look like a little cross, and the broken wood from the window makes it look like he fell on his cross.

What we've seen in the show is different on both counts.

And it irks me to see the image in the stills because Joe was anything but a holy man. He was a monster.

[Dennis tanner]

I'm kind of glad because I think that it will be interesting to see Jacob's dilemma if responding to a code if Joe is in crisis.

I don't think that Jacob would ever recover if he did go through killing Joe, or withholding treatment, but I think that having considered it and realizing that he is better than that will help him with his grief for Laila.

Kill him Jacob

[lizann]

will the spiking of noah, stealing the kidney investigations be dropped now joe was pushed that investigation taking priority

[Son of Cain]

will the spiking of noah, stealing the kidney investigations be dropped now joe was pushed that investigation taking priority

Should all be part of the same investigation. - motivation.

[lizann]

Should all be part of the same investigation. - motivation.

i hope they are

[Dennis tanner]

will the spiking of noah, stealing the kidney investigations be dropped now joe was pushed that investigation taking priority

What's the evidence that he was pushed ?

[lizann]

What's the evidence that he was pushed ?

i doubt he jumped intentionally

[Son of Cain]

What's the evidence that he was pushed ?


i doubt he jumped intentionally

It would take quite a lot of force to break the glazing bars in the window. Looking at how he landed, it looks like he went out backwards and turned in mid air. I cannot see how he would be in that position otherwise, but if he fell back against the window I do not think he could hit it with enough force to break through it. If he was trying to kill himself, which I doubt, surely he have gone up to the roof to gain height as the window is not high enough to guarantee death.

The truth of how he was posed on the ground is more likely sloppy direction, and because it gave a better camera angle.

[ccahill2]

I guess you should never attempt jumping jacks while on cat tranqs.

[tammyy2j]

Did Joe drink the spiked drink or did Charity pour it down the sink, that would show up in his blood results

[Son of Cain]

Did Joe drink the spiked drink or did Charity pour it down the sink, that would show up in his blood results

I do not think he did, he kept putting it down and picking it up, to build suspense. I did not think Charity poured it down the sink, did she? I was waiting for some innocent soul, like Kerry or Mandy, to pick it up and drink it.

[Dennis tanner]

It would take quite a lot of force to break the glazing bars in the window. Looking at how he landed, it looks like he went out backwards and turned in mid air. I cannot see how he would be in that position otherwise, but if he fell back against the window I do not think he could hit it with enough force to break through it. If he was trying to kill himself, which I doubt, surely he have gone up to the roof to gain height as the window is not high enough to guarantee death.

The truth of how he was posed on the ground is more likely sloppy direction, and because it gave a better camera angle.

Joe is very unpopular. An efficient Police force would consider attempted suicide ( Or hopefully suicide) as the best solution.

[Dennis tanner]

I do not think he did, he kept putting it down and picking it up, to build suspense. I did not think Charity poured it down the sink, did she? I was waiting for some innocent soul, like Kerry or Mandy, to pick it up and drink it.

Mandy please., shared with Spamhead

[lizann]

dawn covering for clemmie and or lucas

[Son of Cain]

Joe is very unpopular. An efficient Police force would consider attempted suicide ( Or hopefully suicide) as the best solution.

Maybe they have and ruled it out. I think if he was committing suicide he would simply have opened the window and jumped out, rather than run across the room and hit the window with enough force to burst through it. It was not higher enough to kill him.

[Perdita]

Joe is very unpopular. An efficient Police force would consider attempted suicide ( Or hopefully suicide) as the best solution.

He never looked like he was going to kill himself to me... :hmm:

[ccahill2]

I'm beginning to think there will be a cop-out ending like when Craig was kicked by the horse. I'm expecting someone we didn't even know was in town to have snuck into the house and pushed Joe.

[lizann]

He never looked like he was going to kill himself to me... :hmm:

he has stolen a kidney so health good

[Dennis tanner]

He never looked like he was going to kill himself to me... :hmm:
Nor me but it's still the easiest solution in a soap.

[Son of Cain]

Just read Corrie and Emmedale are going to film a crossover episode together, so could it be someone from The Cobbles who pushed Joe? My money is on Mary, Rita or Bobby.

[ccahill2]

Just read Corrie and Emmedale are going to film a crossover episode together, so could it be someone from The Cobbles who pushed Joe? My money is on Mary, Rita or Bobby.

As long as John doesn't go to treat Debbie, I'm okay with most options.

[lizann]

so the police tested all drinks glasses from the party for prints and substances, joe had sleeping tablets himself as he gave to kim , why test if he hadn't drank, now poor noah up ****s creek

[Son of Cain]

so the police tested all drinks glasses from the party for prints and substances, joe had sleeping tablets himself as he gave to kim , why test if he hadn't drank, now poor noah up ****s creek


so the police tested all drinks glasses from the party for prints and substances, joe had sleeping tablets himself as he gave to kim , why test if he hadn't drank, now poor noah up ****s creek
None of this makes any sense, if they tested Joe in hospital and did not get a positive result, as you say, why test the glasses, unless they just have nothing else to with their time. I still do not understand why Charity would give Joe a sedative. What was she trying to achieve, did she use enough to kill him, if not what was the point? Was she just trying to show him how it felt to be spiked? But all that would happen is the Joe would have felt tried and said he was going upstairs to lie down.

I am not even sure I believe it was Dawn that pushed him, I do not think she is strong enough.

[johntrevor]

None of this makes any sense, if they tested Joe in hospital and did not get a positive result, as you say, why test the glasses, unless they just have nothing else to with their time. I still do not understand why Charity would give Joe a sedative. What was she trying to achieve, did she use enough to kill him, if not what was the point? Was she just trying to show him how it felt to be spiked? But all that would happen is the Joe would have felt tried and said he was going upstairs to lie down.

I am not even sure I believe it was Dawn that pushed him, I do not think she is strong enough.

I think it's pretty obvious Dawn thinks she is protecting who she thinks pushed Joe, probably thinking it's someone in her family.

[Son of Cain]

I think it's pretty obvious Dawn thinks she is protecting who she thinks pushed Joe, probably thinking it's someone in her family.

If she thinks it was Clemmie, unless she has superpowers, I don't think she has the strength.

Noah said he saw someone running away, presumably he meant away from the house, which might mean someone who was not at the party. If it was someone who was at the party, they would sneak upstairs, then afterwards just come down again and mingle.

[johntrevor]

If she thinks it was Clemmie, unless she has superpowers, I don't think she has the strength.

Noah said he saw someone running away, presumably he meant away from the house, which might mean someone who was not at the party. If it was someone who was at the party, they would sneak upstairs, then afterwards just come down again and mingle.

It actually showed Billy as the one running away, he had been hiding behind bushes, watching what was going on.

[lizann]

If she thinks it was Clemmie, unless she has superpowers, I don't think she has the strength.

Noah said he saw someone running away, presumably he meant away from the house, which might mean someone who was not at the party. If it was someone who was at the party, they would sneak upstairs, then afterwards just come down again and mingle.

noah saw billy that was shown

maybe clemmie and lucas teamed up

[Perdita]

noah saw billy that was shown

maybe clemmie and lucas teamed up

Of course, in soapland this would be possible but really, I do not believe two young kids could push an adult through a window

[Dennis tanner]

maybe clemmie and lucas teamed up

They persuaded Joe to play 'leg and a wing' and threw him through the window

[katie hunter]

Why are the writers pushing this Joe and Dawn romance? Absolutely no chemistry at all.

[lizann]

Why are the writers pushing this Joe and Dawn romance? Absolutely no chemistry at all.

i could buy joe and debbie, they had some chemistry

[lizann]

kim should kick them all out, she owes joe or dawn nothing

[Dennis tanner]

kim should kick them all out, she owes joe or dawn nothing

Kim doesn't want to be lonely

[lizann]

Kim doesn't want to be lonely

she has ice with sam and lydia working

[Perdita]

Joe must be like Superman... gets beaten up a few days after a kidney transplant, falls out of a window, breaking his pelvis but the new kidney is totally unharmed....

[johntrevor]

Joe must be like Superman... gets beaten up a few days after a kidney transplant, falls out of a window, breaking his pelvis but the new kidney is totally unharmed....

Yep sure has a charmed life, not to mention being hammered by Cain previously, for the way he treated Debbie.

[lizann]

i hope the noah spiking is still being investigated, as kidney gate is not

[Son of Cain]

Do the people of Emmerdale drink water straight from the stream, surely it goes through a treatment plant first?

[lizann]

Do the people of Emmerdale drink water straight from the stream, surely it goes through a treatment plant first?

yes harry must have, stupid, same as noah and joe convenient change of statements, jacob should investigate kidney gate himself, probe liam and manpreet

[katie hunter]

It must be tough on Joe trying to recover from a fractured pelvis while trying to keep all of those plates spinning. I hope someone bumps him off soon. I nice drink of water from the village should do it.

[Dennis tanner]

Do the people of Emmerdale drink water straight from the stream, surely it goes through a treatment plant first?

Exactly.

Tate is a cad and a bounder, Sugden is a demon and Noah is merely a fool.

[Son of Cain]

Is this the same stream that passes under the bridge? That has had a dead body in it and I do not remember anyone worrying about drinking the water then.

Looking at the slurry tank I do not see how anyone could accidentally leave the valve open and walk away. If they did not see the slurry gushing out, they would hear it. Moira should know this, it is now her turn to be turned stupid.

[johntrevor]

Is this the same stream that passes under the bridge? That has had a dead body in it and I do not remember anyone worrying about drinking the water then.

Looking at the slurry tank I do not see how anyone could accidentally leave the valve open and walk away. If they did not see the slurry gushing out, they would hear it. Moira should know this, it is now her turn to be turned stupid.

Couldn't agree more.

[ccahill2]

jacob should investigate kidney gate himself,

With all that goes on in the village, I'd think that becoming a PI could be a lucrative career for some of the young adults.

[Snagglepus]

Adam Barton is also Ross' brother which he failed to mention, although he would not have been related to Lewis.

[Dennis tanner]

Adam Barton is also Ross' brother which he failed to mention, although he would not have been related to Lewis.

I am sure that Adam is not a brother of Ross

[lizann]

I am sure that Adam is not a brother of Ross

adam was really james son with insatiable moira

[Dennis tanner]

adam was really james son with insatiable moira

Thanks.

[Son of Cain]

Adam Barton is also Ross' brother which he failed to mention, although he would not have been related to Lewis.

Does Ross know this?

[Perdita]

Does Ross know this?

Yes, they all found out

[johntrevor]

Yes, they all found out

Typical emmerdale families, John and Moira, James and Emma, two disfunctual families producing various children between them.

[lizann]

Typical emmerdale families, John and Moira, James and Emma, two disfunctual families producing various children between them.

moira just can't keep it with one man, needs attention

[Dennis tanner]

Does Ross know this?

They must have forgot to tell me

[lizann]

you'd think dawn and clemmie wouldn't want joe back in the house

[Son of Cain]

If Moira frequently leaves a tanker full of slurry unattended in a field, I am surprized that there has not been an accident before this, with some passing drunken yobbo.

[ccahill2]

you'd think dawn and clemmie wouldn't want joe back in the house

And you'd think that Kim wouldn't want an illegal organ harvester in her house.

[Dennis tanner]

Who lifts Tate in and out of his chair ?

[Perdita]

Who lifts Tate in and out of his chair ?

He will be walking unaided next week without a limp, scar or any signs of medical interventions

[Son of Cain]

When Joe said he had the kidney transplant in Chicago, did the police verify this? Even if Joe has set up some fake evidence as proof, I beleve traces of the donor's DNA can be found in the recipient's blood for years after, this would match to Caleb, proving it was his kidney.

[lizann]

When Joe said he had the kidney transplant in Chicago, did the police verify this? Even if Joe has set up some fake evidence as proof, I beleve traces of the donor's DNA can be found in the recipient's blood for years after, this would match to Caleb, proving it was his kidney.
yes i was hoping the detective would continue investigating

[thestud2k7]

I wish emmerdale writers watch classic emmerdale on itv3 they are currently reshowing who killed Tom king? Which ran for nearly sis months fast forward to 2025 who pushed joe? You found out in the next episode

No wonder itv soaps are losing viewers

[Dennis tanner]

When Joe said he had the kidney transplant in Chicago, did the police verify this? Even if Joe has set up some fake evidence as proof, I beleve traces of the donor's DNA can be found in the recipient's blood for years after, this would match to Caleb, proving it was his kidney.

But will the genius detectoive bother to do the work ???

[lizann]

the clinic must be closed with liam in the pub, claudette sick and john at the hospital and the farm

[Son of Cain]

I thought Belle was going to Shetland but she is back already. Was this because Debbie has gone to Australia?

[Son of Cain]

Has anyone ever in the history of the world tried to lift the tow bar of a fully loaded trailer while lying on the ground with their arm underneath it? I seriously doubt it, they must have cut out part of Moira's brain when they treated her tumour. There is contrived scripts and there is ?????, well I cannot find words to describe this nonsense.

[ccahill2]

At this point, they can't kill the John character off soon enough. What a horrible excuse for a human.

[Snagglepus]

Having Debbie upping sticks and moving to Australia gets around why she will not be back to Emmerdale to look after her daughter.

[lizann]

Having Debbie upping sticks and moving to Australia gets around why she will not be back to Emmerdale to look after her daughter.

sarah wasnt even asked to go and where is jack

the show should have recast debbie

dawn and her kids quick changed their tunes on joe when he spent cash on presents

lydia at the mothers again, is the actress on leave, sick?

[Snagglepus]

Dawn and her kids quick changed their tunes on Joe when he spent cash on presents
Money bags Joe didn't need to return the scooters to the shop, he could have told Sam to scrap them.

[Perdita]

sarah wasnt even asked to go and where is jack

I presume Jack has gone to Australia with his mum and stepdad

[lizann]

I thought Belle was going to Shetland but she is back already. Was this because Debbie has gone to Australia?

went and back already, must have drove 200 miles a hour all night

[katie hunter]

Debbie always was a selfish cow but I doubt she would up sticks and leave her daughter behind without even trying to convince her to go.

By his facial expressions I thought Mack was putting the pieces together but maybe it was just bad acting.

[Snagglepus]

went and back already, must have drove 200 miles a hour all night

And wait for the ferry each way.

[Snagglepus]

By his facial expressions I thought Mack was putting the pieces together but maybe it was just bad acting.

I thought that too.
Now he has turned into a blackmailer so he is just as bad.

[Son of Cain]

And wait for the ferry each way.

Which takes 12 to 14 hours each way from Aberdeen, then allow time to eat, sleep and toilet. Unless she flew from Aberdeen, in which case she might have flown all the way from Leeds or Manchester. These writers are getting more and more lazy.

[Perdita]

Which takes 12 to 14 hours each way from Aberdeen, then allow time to eat, sleep and toilet. Unless she flew from Aberdeen, in which case she might have flown all the way from Leeds or Manchester. These writers are getting more and more lazy.:cheer:

Is it definite she came back the same day? I think sometimes the way episodes are shown the stories are not necessarily happening all on the same day.... ?

[lizann]

did clemmie ring on Dawn's phone

[Dennis tanner]

went and back already, must have drove 200 miles a hour all night
Belle Orbison ?

NB.....Why would you dredge a lake to look for polluted water ???

[ccahill2]

I cheered Clemmie on today. Smart little girl!

[Son of Cain]

Belle Orbison ?

NB.....Why would you dredge a lake to look for polluted water ???

To find the bodies, as parkerman would say a contrivance, or to screw enough money out of Moira to pay for all the sewage spillages in Yorkshire.
How would they get a dredger to the lake, has it suddenly been connected to a canal?
If the stream runs into the lake, would that not dilute the slurry to safer levels. There must be run off from the surrounding land containing fertilizer residue and animal waste so the water must go through a processing plant before it is used in the village, so what was the problem?

[Son of Cain]

Is it definite she came back the same day? I think sometimes the way episodes are shown the stories are not necessarily happening all on the same day.... ?

I thought she went one day and came back the next so still near 24 hours. Judging the time frame from the other stories running concurrently. I think usually when they do a time shift they do it between episodes.

[Son of Cain]

Just noticed that one of the Specsaver ads has a man lifting a trailer tow bar, STANDING UP. pity Moira did not see this before stupidly trying to lift it while LYING DOWN.

Still do nor understand what John was hoping to achieve by removing two nuts. No way he could have thought that Moira would lie down to lift it. I got the impression she dropped it on her hand because it was too heavy, not because anything came adrift because of what John had down.

[Dennis tanner]

A body in the Lake could take the pressure off Moira

[Son of Cain]

A body in the Lake could take the pressure off Moira

Not if she is accused of putting it there.

[Son of Cain]

Did John put a second body in the lake? I seem to remember he tipped a wrapped up body over the bridge, or was that a flash back to him getting rid of Nate. I did not think Nate was wrapped.

[ccahill2]

I'm assuming any extra body would be Anthony's.

[katie hunter]

I'm assuming any extra body would be Anthony's.

It would explain why John refused to tell the others where he was buried.

When Nate is found, surely Cain will be the main suspect?

[lizann]

shouldn't social services have interviewed dawn and clemmie separate to joe unless dawn told them he is her new partner, he is stranger no relation and for threatening clemmie the police should be involved, dawn of course blaming billy

will john kill kathleen to silence her?

[Son of Cain]

shouldn't social services have interviewed dawn and clemmie separate to joe unless dawn told them he is her new partner, he is stranger no relation and for threatening clemmie the police should be involved, dawn of course blaming billy

will john kill kathleen to silence her?

They do the same with the police, probably questioning people together allows them to introduce more "drama".

Is Aidan in hospital because of something John did. He seems a bit worried if Aidan has spoken yet. When Cathleen said his first word was "John" was he calling out for him or trying to say he did something. Regardless if John is good or bad, Cathleen's expectations of him are unrealistic.

[lizann]

They do the same with the police, probably questioning people together allows them to introduce more "drama".

Is Aidan in hospital because of something John did. He seems a bit worried if Aidan has spoken yet. When Cathleen said his first word was "John" was he calling out for him or trying to say he did something. Regardless if John is good or bad, Cathleen's expectations of him are unrealistic.

I'd say john caused aidans coma, injury, it seems aidan and john were in a relationship

[lizann]

why did Sam get Joe instead of dawn or billy

[Perdita]

I'd say john caused aidans coma, injury, it seems aidan and john were in a relationship

Probably another good deed gone wrong, like Nate...

[lizann]

why would dawn leave clemmie with joe and where was evan and lucas

[Son of Cain]

Are all April's troubles over now? I feel they are re-using part of her script with Lewis, another one who wants to know the truth of how his mother died.

[lizann]

ross should tell lewis that Emma took moiras son issac

[ccahill2]

I really loved Chas' dress for the wedding.

[Son of Cain]

Hour long episode tonight, will this finally be the day Nate's body will be found. I cannot wait to see what coincidence will lead to the discovery.

[Son of Cain]

Hour long episode tonight, will this finally be the day Nate's body will be found. I cannot wait to see what coincidence will lead to the discovery.

And still Nate's body lies in his cold watery grave.

[lizann]

cain forgetting debbie's kids are sudgens in the family, and how annoying is victoria

[katie hunter]

Victoria is really irritating.

I'm not convinced that John is actually a Sugden. That look he gave Robert when he said he was living someone else's life?

What ever happened to Andy? Did he go on the run? Sarah never mentions him. We never see Sarah with Vic either even though they are related.

[ccahill2]

I'm completely not convinced that John is a Sugden either. Whether or not Robert and Aaron get back together, thank goodness he stopped the wedding. I just hope that neither man is now a target.

[lizann]

Victoria is really irritating.

I'm not convinced that John is actually a Sugden. That look he gave Robert when he said he was living someone else's life?

What ever happened to Andy? Did he go on the run? Sarah never mentions him. We never see Sarah with Vic either even though they are related.

yes andy is on the run, where was harry for the wedding and eve too

[lizann]

what was the point of dawn pushing joe who survived as did the kidney

[Son of Cain]

what was the point of dawn pushing joe who survived as did the kidney

Dawn was just being a bit petulant, she is over it now.

Has the matter of the stolen kidney been forgotten about? Or is it just a matter off, well, it has happened now, so we just have to accept it. I certainly would not accept it, if it happened to me.

[ccahill2]

You all know that I've only been watching for a couple of years now, so have a question.

I thought that Robert was a beloved character who went to jail regardless that his actions were to save someone from being raped. Please let me know whether this is the full story.

I know that he hurt Aaron by pushing him away when he thought that he was going away for life, because he loved Aaron enough to want him to live a full happy life and to move forward.

So why is everyone treating Robert like he's a vicious killer and not someone they ever cared about? It makes no sense to me, but I know I have education issues.

[ccahill2]

Billy is more family to Kim than dopey Dawn ever was.

He's the only one who wasn't convinced that Kim drugged Dawn, when it was Rose.
He also seems to be the one who wants to protect his children from this person who set up a stabbing and an illegal organ harvest without consent, for self-gain.

I sometimes have to scratch my head at how he could be treated like the bad guy. He was a dimwit himself with the knuckle fighting stuff, but Dawn is really off her rocker.

[lizann]

You all know that I've only been watching for a couple of years now, so have a question.

I thought that Robert was a beloved character who went to jail regardless that his actions were to save someone from being raped. Please let me know whether this is the full story.

I know that he hurt Aaron by pushing him away when he thought that he was going away for life, because he loved Aaron enough to want him to live a full happy life and to move forward.

So why is everyone treating Robert like he's a vicious killer and not someone they ever cared about? It makes no sense to me, but I know I have education issues.

robert beat up victoria's rapist who died but victoria seems to be like the dingles all on team john

[lizann]

Billy is more family to Kim than dopey Dawn ever was.

He's the only one who wasn't convinced that Kim drugged Dawn, when it was Rose.
He also seems to be the one who wants to protect his children from this person who set up a stabbing and an illegal organ harvest without consent, for self-gain.

I sometimes have to scratch my head at how he could be treated like the bad guy. He was a dimwit himself with the knuckle fighting stuff, but Dawn is really off her rocker.

yes but kim for whatever reason supports dawn and joe , kim should tell dawn about will and joe but dawn would probably still want joe, she is putting joe above her kids

[johntrevor]

robert beat up victoria's rapist who died but victoria seems to be like the dingles all on team john

Very weird how Victoria has turned against her own blood brother, she loved Robert, especially after he avenged the rape by killing, albeit accidently, her rapist. He only died because he had already been beat up by his own brother, who Victoria dated for a while.

[katie hunter]

Very weird how Victoria has turned against her own blood brother, she loved Robert, especially after he avenged the rape by killing, albeit accidently, her rapist. He only died because he had already been beat up by his own brother, who Victoria dated for a while.

Victoria is 'Team John' just like The Dingles. BTW, does anyone actually speak like that in real life?

[Dennis tanner]

cain forgetting debbie's kids are sudgens in the family, and how annoying is victoria

They are Hopwoods, not Sugdens.

[Son of Cain]

Presumably Nate's body has finally been discovered. What a terrible, disappointing low key affair it has turned out to be. Overshadowed by Robert's return and Lewis's introduction. Too much happenening at the same time?

[Perdita]

Presumably Nate's body has finally been discovered. What a terrible, disappointing low key affair it has turned out to be. Overshadowed by Robert's return and Lewis's introduction. Too much happenening at the same time?

Might still develop into something more exciting....

[lizann]

They are Hopwoods, not Sugdens.

well not by blood as andy adopted, is vic or robert also not really a sugden too, sarah's affair or am i wrong?

[Son of Cain]

Might still develop into something more exciting....

Let's hope so. Probably happened off camera to save money. I would have liked to see Nate play dead, with a bit of green and purple make up.

[ccahill2]

Eric Pollard is breaking my heart. Completely and totally. He is such a good actor and I loved his scene with Kerry. I never thought I'd be able to warm up to her, but I have.

Oh, Belle, what have you done. What a mistake. If I have to venture a guess, I think that she will be able to help Dawn because of what she just went through, but I think that before that happens, there will be a hostile takeover of the business.

Beth Cordingly is an amazing actress.

[Son of Cain]

Is Ruby's story going to be one where the police do not believe her, as in Eastenders with Linda? If they find out the body is not Anthony but Nate, will they say "there, there, you poor soul, you are upset because you are in shock due to your father going missing".

[katie hunter]

Joe really does have friends in high places. In a couple of hours he arranges for a fake Anthony and passport to present themselves to the police in Spain.

[lizann]

why would steph tell joe anything after what he did

[Son of Cain]

Joe really does have friends in high places. In a couple of hours he arranges for a fake Anthony and passport to present themselves to the police in Spain.

And the police do not think it odd that after all this time, when they are interviewing Ruby he suddenly turns up and goes to a police station. Why? Did he know Ruby was in trouble?

[Son of Cain]

No problem with police budgets in Yorkshire, planning to search, numerous lakes and reservoirs for a body on the say so of a woman who is clearly mentally distressed.

[ccahill2]

What are the chances that April would see one of those creeps again? Crazy.

I was so happy to see Steph back. She went from a very annoying character to one that I now love. I could really believe that she and Ruby are mother and daughter.

Eric Pollard - wow. I really wanted to hug him last night. He is such a good actor. This story really showcases his range but it's a painful story to watch. I cannot imagine an Emmerdale without Eric.

And Joe. I actually saw some moments when I liked him. I still don't trust him with what he did for Ruby last night, but I didn't know the actor, and saw a lighter, more fun side of him when in the coffee shop with Clemmie the other day. So far, I only see this stiff man with great posture who is creepy restrained in presentation. So it was nice to see him fleshed out a little more.

[lizann]

finally nate is discovered and what a coincidence some fella from Leeds had his christening do in the woolie

[ccahill2]

I was cheering on Mary today. Our Mary is bada$$. You go, girl!

I have some nasty names for Tracy. Even though she is partially right, she's really out for revenge. To me, the bruises Nate got from Cain will heal. The bruises he got mentally from Tracy would never heal.

[katie hunter]

Where is Nates mother? Even when they were trying to track Nate down it occurred to no one to try to contact her? Even now there is no mention at all.

Chris Chittel is amazing.

[johntrevor]

I was cheering on Mary today. Our Mary is bada$$. You go, girl!

I have some nasty names for Tracy. Even though she is partially right, she's really out for revenge. To me, the bruises Nate got from Cain will heal. The bruises he got mentally from Tracy would never heal.

Yes nice one Mary, just what the perverted creep deserved

[lizann]

Where is Nates mother? Even when they were trying to track Nate down it occurred to no one to try to contact her? Even now there is no mention at all.

Chris Chittel is amazing.

there's been no mention of cara

[Dennis tanner]

Mrs Kerry Pollard....You read it here first

[Son of Cain]

If Sarah has not had the cancer treated yet, why is she having to pay for the IVF now?

[lizann]

it's ridiculous no Debbie Cara or David for these big storylines, recast

[katie hunter]

it's ridiculous no Debbie Cara or David for these big storylines, recast

Surely Cara will be there for her sons funeral? I agree that they need to recast if the original actor doesn't want to come back.

[lizann]

where is johnny and frankie when tracy and vanessa in the pub

[Son of Cain]

Surely Cara will be there for her sons funeral? I agree that they need to recast if the original actor doesn't want to come back.

Not necessarily, they could do a Beth and Craig and have the funeral near where Cara lives.

[lizann]

Not necessarily, they could do a Beth and Craig and have the funeral near where Cara lives.
let's hope it is but we have seen cain over a grave in emmerdale graveyard in flash forward which wasn't amys

[Perdita]

let's hope it is but we have seen cain over a grave in emmerdale graveyard in flash forward which wasn't amys

He will be buried in Emmerdale! I agree, we saw Cain at a grave and I am sure it will be Nate's... soapland forgiveness for family feud...

[Perdita]

Not necessarily, they could do a Beth and Craig and have the funeral near where Cara lives.

There will be a service for Craig in Weatherfield, even if the funeral is where Beth now lives... not sure though, knowing soapland they will suddenly find a plot for the PC locally.

[Dennis tanner]

where is johnny and frankie when tracy and vanessa in the pub

The studio creche I assume

[Son of Cain]

Things are very lax at Hotten Police Station, police officer finishes interviewing John, says, that will be all for now, and just leaves him sitting in the room. Are they so short of staff there is no one to see him out?

[lizann]

how did dawn get a loan and credit card, no collateral and previous worked as a hooker on crack

belle and cain forget John dissuaded them from looking for nate

[Son of Cain]

Would any responsible doctor agree to go ahead with IVF for Sarah, when it is obvious that she is not being straight with Charity. She reminds me of a little girl who wants a puppy.

[Son of Cain]

Is Billy going to take time off work to look after Evan, or is Dawn going away at the weekend?

[lizann]

Is Billy going to take time off work to look after Evan, or is Dawn going away at the weekend?

caleb might have a creche, billy bring evan, kerry bring eric

[katie hunter]

Mandy and Paddy fall asleep leaving Eve on her own and it's all Bears fault?

[Son of Cain]

Mandy and Paddy fall asleep leaving Eve on her own and it's all Bears fault?

Drama has to be created somehow.

[lizann]

that really is the price of screeching tracy

[Perdita]

How cruel of Many to trick Eve into Who is the Mug game and would any parent/guardian really just fall asleep on the sofa? Pathetic :angry:

[Son of Cain]

How cruel of Many to trick Eve into Who is the Mug game and would any parent/guardian really just fall asleep on the sofa? Pathetic :angry:

I have never heard of this game, if Emmerdale have got to invent a game, surely thay can do better than this. I cannot imagine any child would hold there hands over their eyes for more than a few minutes, or that any adult would expect them to.


I have no idea what the drama with Vinny and Kammy and the Gay Pride decorations was about.

[johntrevor]

Mandy and Paddy fall asleep leaving Eve on her own and it's all Bears fault?

I get the point, but, surely Bear is responsible for his own pills, and leaving them on the table in front of a young kid is at least irresponible, and stupid.

[Son of Cain]

I get the point, but, surely Bear is responsible for his own pills, and leaving them on the table in front of a young kid is at least irresponible, and stupid.

They could have agreed that both were to blame, makes me wonder if Paddy is trying to drive Bear out.

[ccahill2]

I feel like the show ran out of ideas, after the last few shows. They're stretching things.

[Perdita]

I get the point, but, surely Bear is responsible for his own pills, and leaving them on the table in front of a young kid is at least irresponible, and stupid.

Yes it is, but he is also of an age where he can forget easily.... think probably is where this storyline is heading ??

[Perdita]

I feel like the show ran out of ideas, after the last few shows. They're stretching things.

I feel all soaps do these days... normal happy boring family life and work is not acceptable anymore :(

[lizann]

you'd never think joe got a stolen kidney transplant and pushed out a window, a rubbish pointless storyline and is dawn getting a my fair lady makeover

kammy and vinny are not funny, vinny questioning his sexuality?

[Son of Cain]

Does Victoria never tire of interferring in other people's lives.

[katie hunter]

Last month Dawn was skint. Now shes a Partner in a business (has she done any actual work yet?), can afford holidays and a brand new wardrobe.

How long before she is offering to buy Home Farm off Kim?

[Son of Cain]

Yes it is, but he is also of an age where he can forget easily.... think probably is where this storyline is heading ??

I hope not, I was just thinking how fit and trim he looks. He has lost a lot of weight.

[lizann]

how many gays does emmerdale need

[Perdita]

how many gays does emmerdale need

The days are gone when Daffyd was the only gay in the village....

[Son of Cain]

how many gays does emmerdale need

It was a bit out of the Blue, I do hope we are not going to witness months and months of Vinny agonising over his sexuality.

Before it became a Village of the Damned, a hundred years ago there was a time when Emmerdale might have been described a Lovely Gay Village.

[lizann]

It was a bit out of the Blue, I do hope we are not going to witness months and months of Vinny agonising over his sexuality.

Before it became a Village of the Damned, a hundred years ago there was a time when Emmerdale might have been described a Lovely Gay Village.

we had it with aaron and vanessa and arthur and mary, confused struggle, enough now

[Son of Cain]

we had it with aaron and vanessa and arthur and mary, confused struggle, enough now

I doubt any of these would would match Vinny, as he seems to be in pernament state of confused struggle without bringing sex into the equation.

[tammyy2j]

Last month Dawn was skint. Now shes a Partner in a business (has she done any actual work yet?), can afford holidays and a brand new wardrobe.

How long before she is offering to buy Home Farm off Kim?

Did she say she got a loan but how?

[Perdita]

Oh Robert, you really have wound John up now...

[Son of Cain]

Oh Robert, you really have wound John up now...

You can tell they are struggling for stories, when they have to resort to Mandy and Paddy having so much hanky panky.

[lizann]

why did vanessa leave her rented house, Tracy should put up or shut up and Vic is annoying

[Son of Cain]

why did vanessa leave her rented house, Tracy should put up or shut up and Vic is annoying

Even though we know that Tracey did not do it, the way she is treating Vanessa I am rather hoping she gets sent down for it.

[ccahill2]

Even though we know that Tracey did not do it, the way she is treating Vanessa I am rather hoping she gets sent down for it.

The way she's been screeching, she can't be sent away too soon. My ear drums can't take it anymore.

[Son of Cain]

Was John going to kill Eric or was he planning another life saving miracle.

[Perdita]

Was John going to kill Eric or was he planning another life saving miracle.

Life saving miracle... he is not a killer, he is a saviour after making sure they need saving, Nate was an accident.

[johntrevor]

Life saving miracle... he is not a killer, he is a saviour after making sure they need saving, Nate was an accident.

Funny how life saving miracles happen A LOT round him, and the life saving very rarely works though isn't it. He seemed to be preparing another "life saving miracle" on Eric Pollard until Cain got in the way.

[Son of Cain]

Life saving miracle... he is not a killer, he is a saviour after making sure they need saving, Nate was an accident.

I am puzzling to think what he was going to do to Eric that he would need a life saving injection, assuming that is why he packed his syringe.

[johntrevor]

I am puzzling to think what he was going to do to Eric that he would need a life saving injection, assuming that is why he packed his syringe.

And it also seems highly likely that he performed a life saving miracle on Aidan that ended up putting him in a coma, so that didn't work either. He is either VERY unlucky, as are the victims around him, or VERY accident prone. Either way a paramedic to steer clear of.

[Perdita]

I am puzzling to think what he was going to do to Eric that he would need a life saving injection, assuming that is why he packed his syringe.

They rarely disclose what medication characters are taking, I have no idea what medication Parkinson Disease sufferers have to take and what the side effects are .. I doubt it would have been properly explained as that scenario was no longer needed.. for now... probably will never find out what John's intentions were

[Son of Cain]

They rarely disclose what medication characters are taking, I have no idea what medication Parkinson Disease sufferers have to take and what the side effects are .. I doubt it would have been properly explained as that scenario was no longer needed.. for now... probably will never find out what John's intentions were

Parkinson's sufferers are often prescribed Levodopa which converts to Dopamine in the brain, aiding movement and coordination.

I think I would have preferred to see the Eric story, rather than the old Soap trope of someone drinking an unrealistic amount of alcohol, and then seeming to be remarkably sober, when they came round in what seemed to be a short time later. If Moira had not come home did John have something else planned for Cain?

[ccahill2]

Where the heck is Lydia? Have they said? She never showed up to her own party, but whenever we see Sam, he doesn’t seem concerned at all.

[katie hunter]

And it also seems highly likely that he performed a life saving miracle on Aidan that ended up putting him in a coma, so that didn't work either. He is either VERY unlucky, as are the victims around him, or VERY accident prone. Either way a paramedic to steer clear of.

I am wondering if he is actually a paramedic?

[lizann]

Where the heck is Lydia? Have they said? She never showed up to her own party, but whenever we see Sam, he doesn’t seem concerned at all.

must still be with her sick mother, is the actress sick or has left the role?

[Perdita]

Where the heck is Lydia? Have they said? She never showed up to her own party, but whenever we see Sam, he doesn’t seem concerned at all.

The same happened with Aggie on Coronation Street, although they later have declared her filing for divorce to explain her not returning. I hope Karen Blick who plays her is not seriously ill so she cannot work... it does seem strange that she does not get mentioned and nobody seems concerned about her...

[lizann]

good that caleb gave Robert a chance

[johntrevor]

good that caleb gave Robert a chance

Yes. I don't why so many people have a down on him, including Bob Hope who made a snide comment about him. The worse thing he did was kill the guy who raped his sister hardly Mafia stuff is it, and that to some degree was accidental, the guy had already been injured by his own brother earlier.

[Son of Cain]

Yes. I don't why so many people have a down on him, including Bob Hope who made a snide comment about him. The worse thing he did was kill the guy who raped his sister hardly Mafia stuff is it, and that to some degree was accidental, the guy had already been injured by his own brother earlier.

I am trying to remember if Robert was well liked by people in the village before the killing, I think maybe not, as I seem to remember he was not a very nice guy. This is why I am not too keen on returning characters, as I can rarely remember their past history, especially nowadays when it allows the story tellers to bring them back with, a new face, a new personality or a new history.

[Perdita]

I am trying to remember if Robert was well liked by people in the village before the killing, I think maybe not, as I seem to remember he was not a very nice guy. This is why I am not too keen on returning characters, as I can rarely remember their past history, especially nowadays when it allows the story tellers to bring them back with, a new face, a new personality or a new history.

He was not very popular, he always was bit jealous of Andy who was adopted. He had an affair with Katie even before she married Andy. He was responsible for Katie's death which was never found out about. When there was trouble in the village, it usually involved Robert. So I don't think that he was very popular with the other villagers.

[Son of Cain]

He was not very popular, he always was bit jealous of Andy who was adopted. He had an affair with Katie even before she married Andy. He was responsible for Katie's death which was never found out about. When there was trouble in the village, it usually involved Robert. So I don't think that he was very popular with the other villagers.

Which would perhaps explain Bob's snide comment.

[lizann]

no one in that village is a saint

[Son of Cain]

no one in that village is a saint

Very few are even likeable.

[lizann]

has robert and ross crossed paths yet to speak about seb

[Perdita]

has robert and ross crossed paths yet to speak about seb

Not to my knowlege.. but bound to happen soon

[Perdita]

Not to my knowlege.. but bound to happen soon

No doubt, once they meet and the subject gets talked about we shall see a young Seb....

[Perdita]

Leyla's grave had no flowers on 3 months after burial...

[Perdita]

And once again, John is witness to something that suits him although he will not want to be the saviour this time.....:nono:

[lizann]

no hi sarah even from uncle robert and is debbie going to be told about Sarah's cancer

[Perdita]

So Joe has about 6 or 7 packs of his drugs for the new kidney, I guess... would not normally be allowed to have such a stash..... but all of them empty so he is going to be in a wee bit of trouble if he cannot get replacement soon..

[Perdita]

And John is the hero once again...:crying::crying:

[Son of Cain]

And once again, John is witness to something that suits him although he will not want to be the saviour this time.....:nono:

Is Robert going to get an injection in the neck?

[Perdita]

Is Robert going to get an injection in the neck?

Nearly did

[Son of Cain]

So Joe has about 6 or 7 packs of his drugs for the new kidney, I guess... would not normally be allowed to have such a stash..... but all of them empty so he is going to be in a wee bit of trouble if he cannot get replacement soon..

I would have thought that Dr Crowther (was that his name?) would have made some arrangements for anti rejection drugs, as he will not want anyone to find out about the transplant.

[lizann]

hopefully caleb sees his attacker back now after billy , could kerry be the one messing with joe

[Son of Cain]

So Joe has about 6 or 7 packs of his drugs for the new kidney, I guess... would not normally be allowed to have such a stash..... but all of them empty so he is going to be in a wee bit of trouble if he cannot get replacement soon..

I am not sure what they are trying to tell us, are they suggesting someone has taken some of the drugs or just that Joe has used them all. Mind you it would help they they kept the front door locked people seem to be able to just walk in when they want to.

[Son of Cain]

Posted itself twice again.

[Perdita]

I am not sure what they are trying to tell us, are they suggesting someone has taken some of the drugs or just that Joe has used them all. Mind you it would help they they kept the front door locked people seem to be able to just walk in when they want to.

Joe looked surprised and a bit annoyed when he found all empty packets... I guess somebody took them... of course, he will blame Billy ...:wall:

[Perdita]

I would have thought that Dr Crowther (was that his name?) would have made some arrangements for anti rejection drugs, as he will not want anyone to find out about the transplant.

Caleb and Cain know...