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tammyy2j
19-01-2016, 12:06
I was expecting some follow up on Peggy, like Phil telling Billy and Ronnie that she is at Aunt Sal's dying
Why hasn't Martin by now called Stacey's doctor :wall:
Louise reminds me of a mix of Lauren and Lucy
Louise reminds me of a mix of Lauren and Lucy
It's a bit too early to tell really, but so far I prefer her to both of those characters. My only minor quibble is I think the actress looks too old for a girl who's just turned fourteen.
parkerman
19-01-2016, 12:41
Louise reminds me of a mix of Lauren and Lucy
Do you think Eastenders is paying some sort of tribute to Superman? All the women in that are Ls - Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lori Lemaris.....
storyseeker1
19-01-2016, 13:41
It's a bit too early to tell really, but so far I prefer her to both of those characters. My only minor quibble is I think the actress looks too old for a girl who's just turned fourteen.
Not surprising, considering the actress is actually 18 in real life. I wonder why they didn't go for a real 14 yr old to play Louise?
tammyy2j
19-01-2016, 13:47
Not surprising, considering the actress is actually 18 in real life. I wonder why they didn't go for a real 14 yr old to play Louise?
I think for a possible romance with Jay
flappinfanny
20-01-2016, 00:55
They threw everything at that episode tonight, including some dodgy camera tricks, its not Hollyoaks, that was my only gripe. Good scenes with Belinda and Kat. Get the Annadin Extra out, Jean is back, she wasn't too bad tonight. June Brown was also excellent with her scenes in the Vic.
There is a remarkable likeness between Kat and Belinda. You would believe they were sisters. I hope we see more of Carli Norris.
maidmarian
20-01-2016, 01:44
They threw everything at that episode tonight, including some dodgy camera tricks, its not Hollyoaks, that was my only gripe. Good scenes with Belinda and Kat. Get the Annadin Extra out, Jean is back, she wasn't too bad tonight. June Brown was also excellent with her scenes in the Vic.
There is a remarkable likeness between Kat and Belinda. You would believe they were sisters. I hope we see more of Carli Norris.
Thanks for warning about Jean!
She can degenerate any serious story into farce!!
you can tell real Arthur (full head of dark hair) to other/maybe false baby now????
in his cot in the flat he could have done with a trip to Blades, in the pub in the pouch he was almost hairless??
parkerman
20-01-2016, 12:36
.....he could have done with a trip to Blades...
Talking of which, what's happened to Blades?
tammyy2j
20-01-2016, 12:48
Talking of which, what's happened to Blades?
I think Shirley will get Honey to run it as I assume Paul is at the moment
Rear window
20-01-2016, 12:50
I think Shirley will get Honey to run it as I assume Paul is at the moment
Paul was in funeral scenes yesterday as undertaking staff.
Rear window
20-01-2016, 12:50
I think Shirley will get Honey to run it as I assume Paul is at the moment
Paul was in funeral scenes yesterday as undertaking staff.
Paul was in funeral scenes yesterday as undertaking staff.
yes and Pam came in and said she'd heard they were short staffed and she'd hep if Paul needed to get back? (presumably to Blades)
*clears throat* Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Post natal depression Post natal depression Post natal depression
What are those plastic stick things that shrinks use in therapy that dont hurt when you hit someone, well Id like a three hour hitting session on Martin.
Stacy has a diagnosed condition and off her meds, shes not suddenly going to calm down you you !
As for poor Arthur ,Martin keeps leaving him in the care of an ill women, talking to least helpful nurse on the planet who has a jealous girlfriend who is going to kick off at some point.
Stalker bod.. I detest bods who thinks their right to talk to you because its what they WANT/NEED. Been there and prosecuted them.
Sausage surprise anyone .
Overall I rate the epp as.AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Overall I rate the epp as.AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I haven't seen last night's episode yet and I think I'll definitely give it a miss after reading your post lol. What's that about stalkers? :hmm:
you can tell real Arthur (full head of dark hair) to other/maybe false baby now????
in his cot in the flat he could have done with a trip to Blades, in the pub in the pouch he was almost hairless??
I read somewhere in the last few days (I can't remember where sorry) that 16 different babies were used for Stacey's post partum psychosis storyline! :eek:
I read somewhere in the last few days (I can't remember where sorry) that 29 different babies were used for Stacey's post partum psychosis storyline! :eek:
shame they didn't chose at least two or three that looked alike then lol
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Sorry to be off topic.. got one. who despite prison for it and restraining orders moved in next door so Im having to leave here..but its ok all they want to be is my friend, well thats what they said in court.
Any way thats why I hate when characters foist themselves on others because thats what they want, to hell to the wishes of anyone else..Kathys a good example.
How many babies!
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Sorry to be off topic.. got one. who despite prison for it and restraining orders moved in next door so Im having to leave here..but its ok all they want to be is my friend, well thats what they said in court.
Any way thats why I hate when characters foist themselves on others because thats what they want, to hell to the wishes of anyone else..Kathys a good example.
How many babies!
I got the number of babies wrong! I found the post and it was actually 16 (which is still a surprising number!):
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?84978-Stacey-Slater-Branning-%28Lacey-Turner%29&p=841067#post841067
Sorry to hear about your stalker! That must be very stressful for you... :(
I got the number of babies wrong! I found the post and it was actually 16 (which is still a surprising number!):
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?84978-Stacey-Slater-Branning-%28Lacey-Turner%29&p=841067#post841067 (\\"http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?84978-Stacey-Slater-Branning-%28Lacey-Turner%29&p=841067#post841067\\")
Sorry to hear about your stalker! That must be very stressful for you... :(
16 is a lot of screaming sprogs on set :D But as the one on screen never did I wondered at one point had the worst happened
re stalker.. life lesson learnt, no good deed goes unpunished :ninja:
paranoia stacey picking up the baby with yellow cleaning gloves :thumbsdow
Steph is ill and sleeping in the sick bed room.
Tiff is missing.
Jez tried to chat to BB but from what he said he got to the DR but was turfed straight back out.
Wheres Tiff then.
Everyone seemed to be gunning for Steph, leading on the poor ickle tattoo bedecked grown man model..yawn..shagger S T while in bed with Mad Meg was twisting the knife as per.
Why do they all shut up when G Zlister sticks her oar in? Mind you her gob has no volume control.
Steph is ill and sleeping in the sick bed room.
Tiff is missing.
Jez tried to chat to BB but from what he said he got to the DR but was turfed straight back out.
Wheres Tiff then.
Everyone seemed to be gunning for Steph, leading on the poor ickle tattoo bedecked grown man model..yawn..shagger S T while in bed with Mad Meg was twisting the knife as per.
Why do they all shut up when G Zlister sticks her oar in? Mind you her gob has no volume control.
Steph is ill and sleeping in the sick bed room.
Tiff is missing.
Jez tried to chat to BB but from what he said he got to the DR but was turfed straight back out.
Wheres Tiff then.
Everyone seemed to be gunning for Steph, leading on the poor ickle tattoo bedecked grown man model..yawn..shagger S T while in bed with Mad Meg was twisting the knife as per.
Why do they all shut up when G Zlister sticks her oar in? Mind you her gob has no volume control.
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Wrong forum...oops....It was CBB reference..
my speech to text software has gone rogue. :crying:
Wrong forum...oops....It was CBB reference..
my speech to text software has gone rogue. :crying:
:D
Well, at least the confusion served to wake my brain up this dark January morning! :)
tammyy2j
21-01-2016, 21:07
Well finally Martin does good and Stacey will get help, I think James did well in his scenes as Martin
I hope we see Belinda again
Ruffed_lemur
21-01-2016, 22:49
Hope Stacey gets the help she needs now.
Rear window
22-01-2016, 09:52
Well finally Martin does good and Stacey will get help, I think James did well in his scenes as Martin
I hope we see Belinda again
Yes finally.
Belinda made a comment about her husband that was pointy. Maybe she's going to leave him and come and live on the square after all.
Rear window
22-01-2016, 09:52
Well finally Martin does good and Stacey will get help, I think James did well in his scenes as Martin
I hope we see Belinda again
Yes finally.
Belinda made a comment about her husband that was pointy. Maybe she's going to leave him and come and live on the square after all.
A&E is not the place to take a mentally unwell person... you dial 999 and explain the issue and they will make sure of mental health care ..Jean knew that but would Martin listen. As for trying to rationalise with a suffering soul, is Martin really that stupid?
I rate this epp as ....aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh x 10
(hope I got the right forum this time)
A&E is not the place to take a mentally unwell person... you dial 999 and explain the issue and they will make sure of mental health care ..Jean knew that but would Martin listen. As for trying to rationalise with a suffering soul, is Martin really that stupid?
I rate this epp as ....aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh x 10
(hope I got the right forum this time)
Rear window
22-01-2016, 11:54
If the glass barrier had caused a cut it would have been a blinking nightmare.
parkerman
22-01-2016, 12:56
If the glass barrier had caused a cut it would have been a blinking nightmare.
Did Kush and Shabs know that Martin was going to smash their glasses and then litter the pieces all over their floor!?
A&E is not the place to take a mentally unwell person... you dial 999 and explain the issue and they will make sure of mental health care ..Jean knew that but would Martin listen. As for trying to rationalise with a suffering soul, is Martin really that stupid?
As I've mentioned, I've been avoiding the Stacey storyline, but I watched the scenes where Martin persuaded her to go to the hospital. I was worrying the writers were making it look possible to rationalise with someone who's delusional! Luckily, it was made clear later that Stacey is still completely out of touch with reality - despite the moment of clarity when she realised she's ill.
Yes, a crowded and rowdy place like an ER would be one of the worst places to take someone as scared as Stacey... :wall:
(hope I got the right forum this time)
You're in the right place today! :thumbsup:
Did Kush and Shabs know that Martin was going to smash their glasses and then litter the pieces all over their floor!?
I'm pretty sure they didn't. :D
What a daft thing to do getting an unwell woman who's holding a baby to start smashing glasses! I thought he was just going to put a row of (intact) glasses between them.
flappinfanny
22-01-2016, 15:10
Are we going to have a Rent boy storyline with Paul????
It will be interesting to see how this pans out with Paul. I think they could do the storyline justice. I think Paul has issues.
A powerful episode. The acting from Stacey and Martin was very good. Patrick keep away from Claudette. She will eat you alive, I don't want you to keel over and have a heart attack.
One niggle those camera angles and stunts. Not needed. Rely on the writing and the acting, simple really. Did the fog machine work over time in Walford?
Are we going to have a Rent boy storyline with Paul????
It will be interesting to see how this pans out with Paul. I think they could do the storyline justice. I think Paul has issues.
The encounter between Paul and his admirer in the alley completely passed me by until I saw it mentioned elsewhere. :o
It's time Paul got his own storyline. I like the actor and want to see the character given some development.
Patrick keep away from Claudette. She will eat you alive, I don't want you to keel over and have a heart attack.
I enjoyed the not-so-subtle double entendres between Claudette and Patrick. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
really thought stacey was going to tell dr that god choose kush as father vessel in front of martin
flappinfanny
23-01-2016, 00:55
A very raw emotional episode. Only spoilt by Ryan's return. Why did Ryan have to return???? Whitney you *********g bitch!!!!! How can Ryan be any good to Lilly, he is on the run, a murderer. Go to Milton Keynes with the other puffer jacket trash.
Again Lacey Turner proved her worth as did James Bye. I am actually liking Alfie since his return this time. I never thought I would say that. EE has had a very strong week.
NB - A lovely cameo appearance by Carolyn Pickles Playing the physiatrist beautifully.
Sublime episode of EastEnders tonight!
Stacey's receiving the help she needs at long last. Lacey and James were on top form (as was Carolyn Pickles).
Paul, Pam and Les got some decent screen time.
I even enjoyed Kat and Alfie's scenes (I'm not usually a big fan).
Plus yet another surprise appearance! (I enjoyed seeing Ryan again even though I was dumbfounded at first by Whitney's betrayal. However, I suppose it makes sense that her first loyalty would be to her brother if she thinks his daughter needs him.)
DTC is spoiling us. :thumbsup:
flappinfanny
23-01-2016, 01:40
Lily would be better off staying with Martin a much better role model than a Slutty Aunt and her murdering on the run brother. Ian Beale was right about his description of Witless Whitney describing her as 'a walking STD.' :cheer:
Lily would be better off staying with Martin a much better role model than a Slutty Aunt and her murdering on the run brother. Ian Beale was right about his description of Witless Whitney describing her as 'a walking STD.' :cheer:
Ian's a pillock, and he can talk what with his habit of sleeping with prostitutes!
parkerman
23-01-2016, 10:54
Ian's a pillock, and he can talk what with his habit of sleeping with prostitutes!
....and getting innocent people banged up for life.
Lacey Turner was absolutely brilliant last night. And has been throughout this whole episode. Can you imagine if Corrie had had this story line with Fiz!!!???
Rear window
23-01-2016, 12:07
I will have to look up who Ryan is.
It's no good for us people with shocking memories! :)
Rear window
23-01-2016, 12:07
I will have to look up who Ryan is.
It's no good for us people with shocking memories! :)
maidmarian
23-01-2016, 12:08
....and getting innocent people banged up for life.
Lacey Turner was absolutely brilliant last night. And has been throughout this whole episode. Can you imagine if Corrie had had this story line with Fiz!!!???
No!!!!!!
Too dreadful to.think about
flappinfanny
23-01-2016, 14:38
....and getting innocent people banged up for life.
Lacey Turner was absolutely brilliant last night. And has been throughout this whole episode. Can you imagine if Corrie had had this story line with Fiz!!!???
:rotfl:
Lacey Turner was absolutely brilliant last night. And has been throughout this whole episode. Can you imagine if Corrie had had this story line with Fiz!!!???
It doesn't bear thinking about! I don't think many actors could generate absolutely no sympathy for a character whose child is suffering from cancer. :wall:
I will have to look up who Ryan is.
It's no good for us people with shocking memories! :)
My memory for soap storylines is appalling! I'm always amazed at posters who can remember every detail of past plots and characters. You can safely bet that if I've written in detail about something that happened more than a couple of years ago I've refreshed my memory with the help of Wikipedia. :D
I remember Ryan as a bad boy but I liked him on the whole. He was married to Janine but left her for Stacey when he found out Lily was his. He loved Lily (and Stacey) and was gutted when Stacey left with her. He was a good brother to Whitney and (accidentally?) killed the man who forced her into prostitution, after which he went on the run.
Here's Ryan's wiki in case you haven't looked him up yet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Malloy
I was thinking Matt Wiillis from mc busted! Oh boy have I meshed BB and soap forums again. :cartman:
xx_Dan_xx
23-01-2016, 22:51
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xx_Dan_xx
23-01-2016, 22:51
Lily would be better off staying with Martin a much better role model than a Slutty Aunt and her murdering on the run brother. Ian Beale was right about his description of Witless Whitney describing her as 'a walking STD.' :cheer:
To be honest, Ryan isn't as dark than you think, if at all. Ryan is responsible for killing someone, by accident - dragged him into the sea with him, where he drowned - and that person was a pimp, trying to lure Whitney back.
jean and ollie could take lily while stacey recovers, lily don't know ryan
flappinfanny
24-01-2016, 00:19
To be honest, Ryan isn't as dark than you think, if at all. Ryan is responsible for killing someone, by accident - dragged him into the sea with him, where he drowned - and that person was a pimp, trying to lure Whitney back.
Thanks, forgot about that storyline. Good point. But yet again who was at the bottom of it? Witless!
GO TO MILTON KEYNES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please send her there DTC, I will even pretend and say you are a great producer, the best since sliced bread!:D
I'm willing to forgive Whitney a lot because of her history of abuse and exploitation (not that I think she needs forgiving for much, and certainly not for Ryan's involvement in her pimp's death). As Dan says, Ryan's part is also understandable in the circumstances.
Unfortunately the writing for the character's been very poor at times. I'm hoping her upcoming infatuation with Mickwill be written sensitively and take into account her past.
Plus, I think she's a positive saint compared to the screeching harpy who brought her up (now there's a character I loathe!). :thumbsdow
maidmarian
24-01-2016, 02:31
I'm willing to forgive Whitney a lot because of her history of abuse and exploitation (not that I think she needs forgiving for much, and certainly not for Ryan's involvement in her pimp's death). As Dan says, Ryan's part is also understandable in the circumstances.
Unfortunately the writing for the character's been very poor at times. I'm hoping her upcoming infatuation with Mickwill be written sensitively and take into account her past.
Plus, I think she's a positive saint compared to the screeching harpy who brought her up (now there's a character I loathe!). :thumbsdow
I agree re "harpy"!!
Once saw her in a reality /charity show on tv!!
She seemed even more screechy and nasty tempered
in that!!
maidmarian
24-01-2016, 02:58
jean and ollie could take lily while stacey recovers, lily don't know ryan
Well-its an idea Lizann!
I just hope that in real life - a child like Lily
wouldnt be placed with someone like Jean.
I feel every child deserves a chance and would
hope Lily would get that with someone who
could give her a period of certaintity and
security ?!
Not Jean(imo)
I agree re "harpy"!!
Once saw her in a reality /charity show on tv!!
She seemed even more screechy and nasty tempered
in that!!
That doesn't surprise me at all, MM.
Apart from Dean, I can't remember being as relieved at an EastEnders' character's exit as I was when Bianca left. :cheer:
Mo Mouse
24-01-2016, 20:47
Stacey should be locked up forever.
parkerman
24-01-2016, 21:37
Stacey should be locked up forever.
Thank you for that considered knowledgeable and compassionate insight into Stacey's condition. It is very much appreciated.
tammyy2j
25-01-2016, 00:16
jean and ollie could take lily while stacey recovers, lily don't know ryan
Or even Shabham, Lily knows her more
Its so good Martins not making it all about himself. But its ok cause Stacy is back on some sort of medication.. would that be the ones she stopped while pregnant! Poor Arty, he has a terminaly bod on one side and a screwed up mess on the other as non biological links and dont get me started on Carmel.
Its so good Martins not making it all about himself. But its ok cause Stacy is back on some sort of medication.. would that be the ones she stopped while pregnant! Poor Arty, he has a terminaly bod on one side and a screwed up mess on the other as non biological links and dont get me started on Carmel.
With all that money Alfie and Kat have you thought they would have a better car than that rubbish one.
With all that money Alfie and Kat have you thought they would have a better car than that rubbish one.
THAT is NOT a rubbish car!!! It is a classic!!! No longer produced!!!
With all that money Alfie and Kat have you thought they would have a better car than that rubbish one.
Mate had a black JPS one, great memories in that particular car, bought a 2.8i one myself and hated it.
But then bought a vauxual cav sri and worshiped it, all sheds but all better than new europ boxes.
alfie needs a reliable family car station wagon
ryan thinks he is best for lily, she don't know him
i am shocked kat left this soon with stacey still in hospital and jean back in her own place, at least martin has godmother kathy (didn't know she was)
alfie needs a reliable family car station wagon
ryan thinks he is best for lily, she don't know him
i am shocked kat left this soon with stacey still in hospital and jean back in her own place, at least martin has godmother kathy (didn't know she was)
parkerman
26-01-2016, 00:08
Martin was very lucky that the hospital Stacey is in allows flowers. Very few do and I don't suppose he checked first.
flappinfanny
26-01-2016, 01:54
Witless you stupid bitch. Look what you have done now. Just what Lilly wants a Father who is on the run for murder. Well done. A round of applause for the 'walking STD.' Martin needs to batter Ryan. No sympathy for Ryan whats so ever. None!!!!
A good episode tonight, I hate to say it but the scenes with Kathy and Martin were great. Lovely mention of Pauline and Arthur and a good exit for Kat and Alfie. The paul and Ben storyline is a bit flat and doesn't feel real as we have not seen the characters for such a long time and then up pops this storyline out of no where. Block story telling. Are we to believe everything has been happening off screen? as this is one of DTC favourite devises.
P.S I am looking forward to Abi getting her just desserts. You have SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO got this coming.
Whitney obviously wasn't expecting Ryan to want to take Lily! Hopefully she's now regretting contacting Ryan so hastily. I wonder why he thinks it's a good idea to take his daughter? He could have another partner by now who'd be happy to take her in I suppose. It'd be interesting to find out.
I quite liked the fact that Whitney was so horrified at Ryan's actions lol. It supports my argument that she's a decent person on the whole, but one who doesn't consider the consequences of her actions. I think she could do with growing up a bit. :wall:
Why on earth did Ian phone the headmaster of the boarding school on Christmas Day if they weren't intending on sending Bobby away until September? Couldn't it have waited until after Christmas??? :searchme:
I really enjoyed the Kathy and Martin scenes. Some reminiscing about old times was just what's needed for Martin to feel like a proper Fowler (as some of us spoke about recently on a different thread). He should be integrated more into the Beale family.
Hopefully the Ben/Paul relationship will stop being neglected now. I thought they had promise as a couple at the beginning and think they could work long term.
i am shocked kat left this soon with stacey still in hospital and jean back in her own place
Me too. I think that's very out of character of Kat!
storyseeker1
26-01-2016, 05:14
Whitney obviously wasn't expecting Ryan to want to take Lily! Hopefully she's now regretting contacting Ryan so hastily. I wonder why he thinks it's a good idea to take his daughter? He could have another partner by now who'd be happy to take her in I suppose. It'd be interesting to find out.
I quite liked the fact that Whitney was so horrified at Ryan's actions lol. It supports my argument that she's a decent person on the whole, but one who doesn't consider the consequences of her actions. I think she could do with growing up a bit. :wall:
I shouldn't think so. I mean, he's on the run for murder, so when would he have time to settle down and find a new girlfriend? You can see the family resemblance between him and Whit; neither of them thinks first before they act. Besides the fact that Lily doesn't know him, does he really think he can take a little girl on the run with him???
Why on earth did Ian phone the headmaster of the boarding school on Christmas Day if they weren't intending on sending Bobby away until September? Couldn't it have waited until after Christmas??? :searchme:
It was because he wants to send Bobby there ASAP, which I can understand, as Bobby is totally out of control. though I doubt sending him to that school is gonna help much.
Hopefully the Ben/Paul relationship will stop being neglected now. I thought they had promise as a couple at the beginning and think they could work long term.
I just want Ben to wake up and be honest with his sexuality finally. It never helps when you deny who you really are. And personally I want that stuck-up crazy b**ch Abi to finally get it, too!
Me too. I think that's very out of character of Kat!
Yeah, I thought so, too, but they had to get rid of Kat and Alfie so that they could start filming that mini-series in Ireland due later this year. I suppose it was the best exit the writers could come up with at the time.
THAT is NOT a rubbish car!!! It is a classic!!! No longer produced!!!
It was only a joke.
With all that money Alfie and Kat have you thought they would have a better car than that rubbish one.
OMG I grew up wanting that car so much.....a black Capri was my dream.
if it was forsale now I'd be in there...
OMG I grew up wanting that car so much.....a black Capri was my dream.
if it was forsale now I'd be in there...
I had 3 Capris in my time, 2 red though, one blue, not black but loved them :D
I shouldn't think so. I mean, he's on the run for murder, so when would he have time to settle down and find a new girlfriend? You can see the family resemblance between him and Whit; neither of them thinks first before they act. Besides the fact that Lily doesn't know him, does he really think he can take a little girl on the run with him???
He's probably living somewhere under a new identity, and could have a new family and a job. Stacey was living with someone and working as a hairdresser when Kat found her if you remember.
It was because he wants to send Bobby there ASAP, which I can understand, as Bobby is totally out of control. though I doubt sending him to that school is gonna help much.
You're probably right that Ian always intended to send Bobby to away as soon as possible. It doesn't really negate my point about phoning the headmaster on Christmas Day though. Who does that? :wall:
Sending Bobby to boarding school could even worsen Bobby's behaviour, in the same way prison can turn slightly dodgy types into hardened criminals.
I just want Ben to wake up and be honest with his sexuality finally. It never helps when you deny who you really are. And personally I want that stuck-up crazy b**ch Abi to finally get it, too!
I'm still quite fond of Abi! However, I've got little sympathy with her in the Ben situation because she's been complicit in keeping him in the closet in her desperation to be a Mitchell. :D
tammyy2j
26-01-2016, 13:55
Both Jean and Kat abandoning Stacey seems so wrong and out of character
storyseeker1
26-01-2016, 14:37
He's probably living somewhere under a new identity, and could have a new family and a job. Stacey was living with someone and working as a hairdresser when Kat found her if you remember.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Still don't know how that could have worked though. I mean you have to give your security code and national insurance number and everything nowadays when you start work.
You're probably right that Ian always intended to send Bobby to away as soon as possible. It doesn't really negate my point about phoning the headmaster on Christmas Day though. Who does that? :wall:
Ian apparently.
Sending Bobby to boarding school could even worsen Bobby's behaviour, in the same way prison can turn slightly dodgy types into hardened criminals.
Maybe, but it's not exactly prison. All he has to do is cause enough havoc and he can get expelled. Obviously you can't do that with prison.
Bobby definitely needs discipline though. He can't get that at home, as Jane is too soft-hearted and weak-willed.
I'm still quite fond of Abi! However, I've got little sympathy with her in the Ben situation because she's been complicit in keeping him in the closet in her desperation to be a Mitchell. :D
I wonder how she'd react if she found out that the clan she's devoted herself to is responsible for getting her dad in prison, and she helped them. And the only reason she's with him is because I suspect she's still pining over Jay. I'm sorry but I have no respect for her. She's an idiot who's dating a guy who she knows is gay yet believes it doesn't matter.
I really hope to god that Ben goes through with it and admits the truth, but knowing EE he's probably gonna chicken out at the end. Seems to be their theme nowadays. First with Bobby, where everyone nearly finds out the truth, but of course then something unexpected happens and then everyone is none the wiser. Then with Fatboy's murder and Ronnie not knowing the truth. Kat's secret son is about the only secret that has truly gotten found out.
tammyy2j
26-01-2016, 15:24
Abi is desperate to be loved I do feel some bit sorry for her but in his own way Ben does love her just not romantically
I wish Lauren has told Abi the truth about Max and Ben
I do think Abi could catch Ben with Paul and still turn a blind eye
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Still don't know how that could have worked though. I mean you have to give your security code and national insurance number and everything nowadays when you start work.
I've no idea how people live under false identities, but some seem to find a way - even in real life. Stealing the identity of a dead child is a method that's often depicted in fiction.
Maybe, but it's not exactly prison. All he has to do is cause enough havoc and he can get expelled. Obviously you can't do that with prison.
He might learn to hide his real nature better and avoid getting expelled. It'll all depend if he likes it there and wants to stay. I think he could meet like-minded boys he can learn from (which is why I compared it to prison).
I wonder how she'd react if she found out that the clan she's devoted herself to is responsible for getting her dad in prison, and she helped them. And the only reason she's with him is because I suspect she's still pining over Jay. I'm sorry but I have no respect for her. She's an idiot who's dating a guy who she knows is gay yet believes it doesn't matter.
I really hope to god that Ben goes through with it and admits the truth, but knowing EE he's probably gonna chicken out at the end. Seems to be their theme nowadays. First with Bobby, where everyone nearly finds out the truth, but of course then something unexpected happens and then everyone is none the wiser. Then with Fatboy's murder and Ronnie not knowing the truth. Kat's secret son is about the only secret that has truly gotten found out.
Like tammyy2j says, Abi's desperate to be loved and be part of a family. She never felt wanted by her own family. It's quite sad when you think about it which is why I can't hate her. She knows deep down Ben's gay of course, but has deluded herself (with his help) that it was just a phase he's now over. They're both guilty of using each other for their own ends, but at the same time I believe they both care for each other so I feel quite sorry for both of them.
I agree Ben won't admit the truth when Abi returns. Paul's now been dragged into the mess too. :(
tammyy2j
26-01-2016, 15:54
I was quite surprised when Paul told Ben he loved him, thought Ben would say it first as to me their "relationship" is more about getting frisky even in the funeral parlour than deep and emotional
I was quite surprised when Paul told Ben he loved him, thought Ben would say it first as to me their "relationship" is more about getting frisky even in the funeral parlour than deep and emotional
I was quite surprised too. It's natural for feelings to develop when two people are sleeping together, especially in this case where neither of them had romantic feelings for anyone else. The trouble is most of the relationship's happened off screen.
drunk phil funny and how much more of whitney, kick her out carters
drunk phil funny and how much more of whitney, kick her out carters
I wouldn't mind if she was apologetic about Ryan stealing the money! :wall:
That fight at the end did make me laugh. It was soooo obvious Mick and Linda would walk in! :D
I don't think it's realistic that Ryan's still literally "on the run" after five years. I suppose he had to be written as desperate in order to cause maximum trouble for Whitney.
Strange that Martin seems to have forgotten it was only yesterday he was the one swearing to unite Stacey and Arthur. I did like the way he dealt with Ryan though.
I wonder if it'll be another five years until we see Whitney's brother again?
flappinfanny
27-01-2016, 00:31
drunk phil funny and how much more of whitney, kick her out carters
And so say all of us!
Another good episode, if this carries on we can forgive most of 2015. :D
Nothing else to add really, phil was brilliant drunk, the Kathy scenes with Martin were excellent, Shabnam is almost in line to be a saint and Martin has really grown on me. Couldn't stop laughing at Jay pretending to be Abi.
I was hoping Nancy was going to batter Witless, the pikey trollop. Lee is better off without her. The only good bit of Ryan was when he came out of the shower/bath with that towel. I was almost licking my lips like Babe. :)
Rear window
27-01-2016, 11:07
Well it appears having got rid of Dean (the previous not-so-nice bearded bloke) we now have a new not-so-nice bearded bloke.
Poor Lily.
Poor Martin - not coping with housework and laundry, has no one offered to go and help him yet other than his godmum kathy going to hospital with him.
Shabs is lovely even if she did have a bit of a rant at Stacey.
The robbery and fight was just silly. They should be brave and just write people out rather than taint them.
Rear window
27-01-2016, 11:07
Well it appears having got rid of Dean (the previous not-so-nice bearded bloke) we now have a new not-so-nice bearded bloke.
Poor Lily.
Poor Martin - not coping with housework and laundry, has no one offered to go and help him yet other than his godmum kathy going to hospital with him.
Shabs is lovely even if she did have a bit of a rant at Stacey.
The robbery and fight was just silly. They should be brave and just write people out rather than taint them.
I have to say, Im poorly sighted and for a horifying second I thought Matt Willis was back. :cartman:
tammyy2j
27-01-2016, 14:55
Well it appears having got rid of Dean (the previous not-so-nice bearded bloke) we now have a new not-so-nice bearded bloke.
Poor Lily.
Poor Martin - not coping with housework and laundry, has no one offered to go and help him yet other than his godmum kathy going to hospital with him.
Shabs is lovely even if she did have a bit of a rant at Stacey.
The robbery and fight was just silly. They should be brave and just write people out rather than taint them.
Where is Rebecca, is she away at boarding school?
I think Sonia helps Martin by minding Arthur or Lily, I think that was mentioned
I really like new Martin, I think James is doing very well as Martin
Anyone else think there was a hint of a spark of chemistry between Ryan and Nancy besides me, I do like her with Tamwar but they have gone boring and stale lately
Anyone else think there was a hint of a spark of chemistry between Ryan and Nancy besides me, I do like her with Tamwar but they have gone boring and stale lately
yes I got that too..???
Well it appears having got rid of Dean (the previous not-so-nice bearded bloke) we now have a new not-so-nice bearded bloke.
I don't think Ryan is anywhere near as bad as Dean. I took him to be desperate rather than outright villainous during this brief return. I'd be quite happy to see him come back full time. Whitney could do with some family in Walford.
The robbery and fight was just silly. They should be brave and just write people out rather than taint them.
Are you talking about Whitney? If so, I agree. She was once a fantastic character who's been through so much, and it saddens me that she's being written in such a way that many viewers have zero sympathy for her.
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27-01-2016, 17:13
I don't think Ryan is anywhere near as bad as Dean. I took him to be desperate rather than outright villainous during this brief return. I'd be quite happy to see him come back full time. Whitney could do with some family in Walford.
Are you talking about Whitney? If so, I agree. She was once a fantastic character who's been through so much, and it saddens me that she's being written in such a way that many viewers have zero sympathy for her.
Yes Poor Whitney has had such a lot of storyline to end up being sort of dirtied like this is wrong.
Presumably there was an inquest for the bloke who drowned (?Think thats what I read) so are the police looking for him or not?
Rear window
27-01-2016, 17:13
I don't think Ryan is anywhere near as bad as Dean. I took him to be desperate rather than outright villainous during this brief return. I'd be quite happy to see him come back full time. Whitney could do with some family in Walford.
Are you talking about Whitney? If so, I agree. She was once a fantastic character who's been through so much, and it saddens me that she's being written in such a way that many viewers have zero sympathy for her.
Yes Poor Whitney has had such a lot of storyline to end up being sort of dirtied like this is wrong.
Presumably there was an inquest for the bloke who drowned (?Think thats what I read) so are the police looking for him or not?
I have to say, Im poorly sighted and for a horifying second I thought Matt Willis was back. :cartman:
Poor you, that must have been a stressful few seconds! :D
I really like new Martin, I think James is doing very well as Martin
He is, and for the first time I'm now invested in him and Stacey as a couple. I hope they survive the paternity revelation (whenever that happens).
parkerman
27-01-2016, 17:18
Where is Rebecca, is she away at boarding school?
Rebecca was in the last episode (or was it the one before? - anyway in the last couple of days.)
Presumably there was an inquest for the bloke who drowned (?Think thats what I read) so are the police looking for him or not?
Yes, he drowned when they both fell in the sea during a fight on a pier.
I don't there was ever any follow up on screen. Lee said yesterday that it wasn't murder and that Ryan would have been OK if he hadn't panicked and run, which is pretty much what I remember.
was ryan not already away from square on run before killing lip the pimp, did janine fit him up, i could be wrong
xx_Dan_xx
27-01-2016, 20:48
I don't really understand why Ryan's life is that bad. Stacey committed murder and years down the line, had a job and a place to live. Although I am not sure whether Stacey was wanted by police or not - if someone could tell me, cheers.
I don't really understand why Ryan's life is that bad. Stacey committed murder and years down the line, had a job and a place to live. Although I am not sure whether Stacey was wanted by police or not - if someone could tell me, cheers.
I agree about Ryan and said as much earlier in the thread.
Stacey was definitely wanted by the police for stabbing Janine (which she didn't actually do - Janine set her up). I suppose Ryan must be wanted by the police, but I'm not sure for what exactly because he didn't deliberately kill Whitney's pimp as far as I can recall. Even if he is wanted for murder, the police aren't going to be actively searching for him after five years. If Stacey can settle down and get a job under an assumed identity, so can he.
Basically, I think his desperation was just a plot device to make matters worse for Whitney.
storyseeker1
28-01-2016, 02:18
I agree about Ryan and said as much earlier in the thread.
Stacey was definitely wanted by the police for stabbing Janine (which she didn't actually do - Janine set her up). I suppose Ryan must be wanted by the police, but I'm not sure for what exactly because he didn't deliberately kill Whitney's pimp as far as I can recall. Even if he is wanted for murder, the police aren't going to be actively searching for him after five years. If Stacey can settle down and get a job under an assumed identity, so can he.
Basically, I think his desperation was just a plot device to make matters worse for Whitney.
I thought Stacey was wanted for the murder of Archie Mitchell?
I thought Stacey was wanted for the murder of Archie Mitchell?
No, the police weren't aware of Stacey's guilt at that time. Janine (who hated Stacey) found out about it but had no proof, so she stabbed herself and made it look like Stacey had done it.
When Kat found Stacey living in London several years later, Janine was about to go on trial for Michael's murder. She made a deal with Kat that she'd clear Stacey's name in return for Kat's testimony that it was Alice who murdered Michael. Stacey then decided to admit to murdering Archie because she could no longer live with the guilt.
Remember there's a second episode of EastEnders on tonight at 8.30pm (repeated on BBC3 at 10.35pm). :)
No, the police weren't aware of Stacey's guilt at that time. Janine (who hated Stacey) found out about it but had no proof, so she stabbed herself and made it look like Stacey had done it.
When Kat found Stacey living in London several years later, Janine was about to go on trial for Michael's murder. She made a deal with Kat that she'd clear Stacey's name in return for Kat's testimony that it was Alice who murdered Michael. Stacey then decided to admit to murdering Archie because she could no longer live with the guilt.
is alice still in prison?
mick giving it all large to ryan:p is linda preferring girlie whitney to tomboy daughter nancy, is lee depression gone and forgotten about
storyseeker1
28-01-2016, 22:54
Wll, Ian's a complete moron, but then again it's not like we didn't know that. I can't believe he didn't tell the headmistress about Bobby's behaviour. I mean, I get he doesn't want to indicate that his son's a murderer, but he should have told her about his temper and the fact he's been spoilt. School's need to know that sort of stuff. What if he attacks another student?
I was very pleasantly surprised to see Ryan return so he could be redeemed. Lovely scenes between him, Whitney and Mick. I still feel sympathy for Whitney despite the kiss. I'd be surprised if she didn't fall a little bit in love with Mick after the way he supported both herself and Ryan. I bet he's the type of father figure she's always craved. Mick the hero! :cheer:
(However, my sympathy will soon wear thin if she's going to make a play for him... )
I wonder if Ryan turning himself in is laying the groundwork for a future return? I'd like to see Whitney's brother and Lily's father back on the square. He truly loves them both.
Bobby looked happily ensconced in his new school. He may be a little too much in his element there... :eek:
It's nice to see Les and Pam tentatively growing closer again.
is alice still in prison?
No, Janine surprisingly felt guilty when Alice attempted suicide, so she admitted to killing Michael but managed to persuade the jury she was the victim and got off.
(As an aside, Max was all for Kat perjuring herself and getting his innocent niece sent down so that his beloved Stacey could return. Maybe his current predicament is a touch of karma? :p)
storyseeker1
28-01-2016, 23:46
Part 2 was a lot more exciting! I enjoyed the scenes with Phil and the hospital. Of course, Phil's not gonna stop drinking (alcoholics never do at first). I'm willing to bet Louise is gonna be the one whose liver can save Phil's life.
Poor Ronnie. Seems like she's having to deal with one bad thing after another.
I'm glad Mick told L about what happened with Whit. Far as I know, they're the first couple on EE who have ever been straight with one another. I think it's a bit stupid of them, though, for keeping Whit in the house. She's clearly not over Mick.
Yes, it was definitely the right decision by the writers that Mick be straight with Linda. We need have no fear that he'll be tempted by Whitney if she's determined to have him.
I thought I detected I detected a bunny boiler-ish glint in her eye at the end of the second episode. I really hope they don't go down that route... :wall:
im annoyed at mick and linda, their own kids nancy and lee should be their top priority and concern, f%ck whitney and ryan they are not their concern hate this goody two shoes help everyone carters is annoying - ok rant over now
im annoyed at mick and linda, their own kids nancy and lee should be their top priority and concern, f%ck whitney and ryan they are not their concern hate this goody two shoes help everyone carters is annoying - ok rant over now
The way Mick dealt with Ryan was partly a clever ploy to get his money back. It wasn't only about him being a goody two shoes. Mick was using his noggin!
(I totally heard that last sentence in Danny Dyer's voice! :D)
The way Mick dealt with Ryan was partly a clever ploy to get his money back. It wasn't only about him being a goody two shoes. Mick was using his noggin!
(I totally heard that last sentence in Danny Dyer's voice! :D)
mick should have called the filth on ryan straight off, he owed whit nothing she isn't with lee long
The way Mick dealt with Ryan was partly a clever ploy to get his money back. It wasn't only about him being a goody two shoes. Mick was using his noggin!
(I totally heard that last sentence in Danny Dyer's voice! :D)
mick should have called the filth on ryan straight off, he owed whit nothing she isn't with lee long
mick should have called the filth on ryan straight off, he owed whit nothing she isn't with lee long
I probably would have called the police in Mick's shoes. However, he's fond of Whitney and thinks of her like family because Lee loves her, so I can understand why he hesitated.
I think Lee and Whitney have been together a fair while now.
tammyy2j
31-01-2016, 01:18
I am glad Mick told Linda as soon as possible about Whitney but I think letting her stay living with them is wrong as Whitney's feelings for Mick are very strong, she loves him
I did laugh at Honey having a Carrie moment with her bloody dress after Phil :p
Has Les given up dressing in ladies clothes now he lives at Billy's flat, is all his dresses at his place with Pam, I do hope they back together soon
Rear window
31-01-2016, 10:36
The bloody thing was disgusting and sort of funny with how Honey handled it.
Ryan giving himself up was good - I thought that Mick did a good job with him.
Rear window
31-01-2016, 10:36
The bloody thing was disgusting and sort of funny with how Honey handled it.
Ryan giving himself up was good - I thought that Mick did a good job with him.
flappinfanny
01-02-2016, 12:34
Just caught up on Thursday's double bill. A good set of episodes. Steve McFadden should get every award going, superb. It was pretty hard hitting stuff with the blood, poor Honey her dress. Nice scenes with Les and Pam and as always Shabnam was in another class. :bow:
The bloody thing was disgusting and sort of funny with how Honey handled it.
Ryan giving himself up was good - I thought that Mick did a good job with him.
esophageal varices was what Phil had I think?
starts with a bit of dark stained coughing and then erupts, its when you erode the throat with alcohol
parkerman
01-02-2016, 14:05
I thought Phil was auditioning for the part of Robert Crawley....
I thought Phil was auditioning for the part of Robert Crawley....
That scene made me think of Downton Abbey too! However, Lord Grantham projectile vomiting blood was a lot more shocking and horrifying than Phil doing so. :p
i wouldn't eat gourmet curry fish fingers where my smalls would be washed, why couldn't they use massod house or massod stall
I'm getting really fed up of Shabnam and Kush breaking up every five minutes. Given their very complicated situation, I can understand why their relationship is crumbling (plus they weren't very strong to begin with), but I'm starting to find it irritatingly repetitive viewing. :wall:
Sweet scene with Stacey and Arthur. :)
I'm shocked nearly all of Phil's family have abandoned him in his hour of need. He thoroughly deserves it of course, but he's been forgiven so many times before it's feeling a bit unrealistic to me that they decide to dig their heels in when he's at death's door. :hmm:
tammyy2j
02-02-2016, 01:04
Why is Jay and Ben so against Phil, I understand Sharon is mad over Denny, is Ben still mad over Kathy being alive
Is Denise and Patrick living with Kim?
Why is Jay and Ben so against Phil, I understand Sharon is mad over Denny, is Ben still mad over Kathy being alive
I think they're angry about his recent drunken behaviour. However, given the very long list of wrongdoings they've previously forgiven, along with the fact that he's an alcoholic, I find it a strange time for them to decide to turn their backs on him.
Is Denise and Patrick living with Kim?
They're just staying while the building work to separate the two houses that make up the B&B is being done.
tammyy2j
02-02-2016, 01:20
I thought Shirley was going to go check on Linda and apologise, again I was wrong :wall:
Can the writers put in one scene of Shirley apologising to Linda
storyseeker1
02-02-2016, 01:44
I thought Shirley was going to go check on Linda and apologise, again I was wrong :wall:
Can the writers put in one scene of Shirley apologising to Linda
If they were gonna do that, they probably would have done by now. I think it's gonna be one of those things that they're just gonna skip over.
Rear window
02-02-2016, 10:36
Ronnie "I'll get you a new liver even if I have to go out and get you one myself..."
I wouldn't put it past her!
Rear window
02-02-2016, 10:36
Ronnie "I'll get you a new liver even if I have to go out and get you one myself..."
I wouldn't put it past her!
Tuesday's episode was a rare chance for both Nitin Ganatra and Diane Parish to shine. Both their characters are badly underused, particularly Denise in the last couple of years.
I thought the actress who played Hannah was very good. I assume there's a lot more to come with her story. When I saw the "five" on Ronnie's cheque, I thought at first she'd given them five hundred thousand pounds! (In my defence, she had just implied to Honey that she was made of money! :o) However, I rewound and saw she'd actually given them five thousand. :D
storyseeker1
05-02-2016, 01:39
Nope. No way is Dean gonna plead guilty. If he had a conscience, it would have shown up by now. Geez, even tonight he was starting to deny the charges yet again.
I wonder what Shabs is gonna ask Kush?
God Tam, you have got to be the biggest idiot in the history of the entire world! What is wrong with him?! Nancy was practically begging to get back together with him, and he just let her go?!
was honey babysitting arthur
Nope. No way is Dean gonna plead guilty. If he had a conscience, it would have shown up by now. Geez, even tonight he was starting to deny the charges yet again.
He's definitely not going to grow a conscience now, but he might plead guilty to regain Shirley's approval. He's terrified deep down of being abandoned by her again. Plus
he's up in court in tomorrow's episode and I haven't read anything about a big trial, so I think it's likely he'll plead guilty for that reason alone.
The writers might have him do a last minute u-turn in the remorse department to allow them wriggle room for his redemption in the future. It wouldn't exactly be realistic if that happened given his attitude so far though!
God Tam, you have got to be the biggest idiot in the history of the entire world! What is wrong with him?! Nancy was practically begging to get back together with him, and he just let her go?!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to be annoyed at him. I think we were expected to sympathise when he wept after Nancy had left, but I just thought he'd really let her down again. She couldn't have done more to give him the message she didn't want to break up. All he needed to do was show he cared. :wall:
I've found him quite unlikable recently.
It was enjoyable to see Lucas, and unnerving to see poor Denise having to stop herself from falling under his spell. Did I pick up a hint he could try to appeal on the grounds of insanity at the time of his crimes? :eek:
I'm not sure of the legalities of something like that though. I can't remember his original plea, and all it says in Wikipedia is that he was sentenced to life.
storyseeker1
05-02-2016, 02:54
He's definitely not going to grow a conscience now, but he might plead guilty to regain Shirley's approval. He's terrified deep down of being abandoned by her again.
The writers might have him do a last minute u-turn in the remorse department to allow them wriggle room for his redemption in the future. It wouldn't exactly be realistic if that happened given his attitude so far though!
Well, that would be typical Dean behaviour, given his mommy complex. And it would also be EE through and through. They rarely do anything realistic lately. Keeping Bobby's secret this long, Dean's reactions during the year... Sometimes I wonder if they do as much research as they claim they do.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to be annoyed at him. I think we were expected to sympathise when he wept after Nancy had left, but I just thought he'd really let her down again. She couldn't have done more to give him the message she didn't want to break up. All he needed to do was show he cared.
I've found him quite unlikable recently.
Ugh! He drives me mad. I wish they'd get rid of his character, especially after tonight. I hate him for what he's put Nancy through, and he is such a whinger it makes me wanna strangle him!
storyseeker1
05-02-2016, 02:59
It was enjoyable to see Lucas, and unnerving to see poor Denise having to stop herself from falling under his spell. Did I pick up a hint he could try to appeal on the grounds of insanity at the time of his crimes? :eek:
I'm not sure of the legalities of something like that though. I can't remember his original plea, and all it says in Wikipedia is that he was sentenced to life.
Well, he was definitely insane at the time. Whether he still is now or not remains to be seen. I can't think how he would be able to get out though. I know I just said that EE rarely does anything realistically lately, but getting Lucas out of prison, after the murder of THREE people???! There is just no way that would happen in real life! The legal system isn't THAT bad!
Even if he was insane, he would have to go through all the legal channels, get psychiatric treatment, and still have to serve out a minimum time.
Sometimes I wonder if they do as much research as they claim they do.
I think we've all wondered that! If they do the research, they then proceed to completely ignore it most of the time.
Ugh! He drives me mad. I wish they'd get rid of his character, especially after tonight. I hate him for what he's put Nancy through, and he is such a whinger it makes me wanna strangle him!
I usually like Tamwar, but I wouldn't be sorry to see him go at the moment. Perhaps he could use Shabnam's ticket to Pakistan?
Well, he was definitely insane at the time. Whether he still is now or not remains to be seen. I can't think how he would be able to get out though. I know I just said that EE rarely does anything realistically lately, but getting Lucas out of prison, after the murder of THREE people???! There is just no way that would happen in real life! The legal system isn't THAT bad!
Even if he was insane, he would have to go through all the legal channels, get psychiatric treatment, and still have to serve out a minimum time.
I completely agree, and I don't think the idea would have entered my head if I hadn't read
that he'll be returning in the spring. The article actually uses the words "paving the way for him to return in the spring", although it doesn't give any details. That sounds like more than just another brief appearance or two from prison! :eek:
the look lucas gave dean, could he kill again
storyseeker1
05-02-2016, 05:32
I completely agree, and I don't think the idea would have entered my head if I hadn't read
that he'll be returning in the spring. The article actually uses the words "paving the way for him to return in the spring", although it doesn't give any details. That sounds like more than just another brief appearance or two from prison! :eek:
I hope that's all it is. The idea of him returning is just too ridiculous and completely unrealistic.
parkerman
05-02-2016, 09:11
I hope that's all it is. The idea of him returning is just too ridiculous and completely unrealistic.
Perhaps he had the same forensic "expert" at his trial as Tracy in Corrie did at hers.......
Rear window
05-02-2016, 10:08
Jade was right to be angry and upset. Shabs needs to stop running away.
Tam and Nancy breaking up was a bit weak - but he had got the cold shoulder from her parents the previous night and probably feels he did let her down.
Rear window
05-02-2016, 10:08
Jade was right to be angry and upset. Shabs needs to stop running away.
Tam and Nancy breaking up was a bit weak - but he had got the cold shoulder from her parents the previous night and probably feels he did let her down.
parkerman
05-02-2016, 10:18
Tam has a very low opinion of himself. In spite of what most say on here, I do feel sorry for him. I think he just feels, as he said last night, that Nancy is out of his league. He doesn't want to intentionally hurt her, he just doesn't feel good enough for her. He knows he's a bit of a geek and doesn't have the confidence to break free from this.
Jade was right to be angry and upset. Shabs needs to stop running away.
I silently cheered Jade when she didn't pull any punches with Shabnam. I know the latter's in a very painful situation with Arthur, Zaair's tragic death and the news of her inability to conceive again, but she gave no thought to the child she'd abandoned once already.
Rear window
05-02-2016, 10:22
I silently cheered Jade when she didn't pull any punches with Shabnam. I know the latter's in a very painful situation with Arthur, Zaair's tragic death and the news of her inability to conceive again, but she gave no thought to the child she'd abandoned once already.
Yes the fact she isn't in a nice white coat that ties your arms up is remarkable. She's had an awful time. It is easy to lose sight of the positives when the negatives come at you top speed. She has the chance to work on her relationship with Jade and get her back properly in her life, but overwhelmed by Zaair and now Arthur.. she is sinking and the person who should have been her lifeboat is the one throwing her overboard.
Rear window
05-02-2016, 10:22
I silently cheered Jade when she didn't pull any punches with Shabnam. I know the latter's in a very painful situation with Arthur, Zaair's tragic death and the news of her inability to conceive again, but she gave no thought to the child she'd abandoned once already.
Yes the fact she isn't in a nice white coat that ties your arms up is remarkable. She's had an awful time. It is easy to lose sight of the positives when the negatives come at you top speed. She has the chance to work on her relationship with Jade and get her back properly in her life, but overwhelmed by Zaair and now Arthur.. she is sinking and the person who should have been her lifeboat is the one throwing her overboard.
Tam has a very low opinion of himself. In spite of what most say on here, I do feel sorry for him. I think he just feels, as he said last night, that Nancy is out of his league. He doesn't want to intentionally hurt her, he just doesn't feel good enough for her. He knows he's a bit of a geek and doesn't have the confidence to break free from this.
I totally understand your point and would have sympathised with Tamwar if he hadn't been downright cruel to Nancy - even though it was unintentional. I already felt he was being pushy and insincere with her before last night, which didn't help his case. I do think that behaviour's been out of character however and I'm sure their split won't last long.
Yes the fact she isn't in a nice white coat that ties your arms up is remarkable. She's had an awful time. It is easy to lose sight of the positives when the negatives come at you top speed. She has the chance to work on her relationship with Jade and get her back properly in her life, but overwhelmed by Zaair and now Arthur.. she is sinking and the person who should have been her lifeboat is the one throwing her overboard.
Agreed. Hopefully it was a wake up call to get her to prioritise working on her relationship with Jade and find some happiness. I still want her to get custody eventually.
Brilliant scenes with Stacy and Shabnam.
tammyy2j
05-02-2016, 21:31
I am going to miss Shabham and Jade :(
Rear window
05-02-2016, 23:47
oh I have just cried through most of that episode.
why did shirley give jade to shabnam
kush free now for stacey
why did shirley give jade to shabnam
kush free now for stacey
Well that was highly emotive! I feel stunned after watching Shabnam's last episode. :crying:
oh I have just cried through most of that episode.
Me too! I went through a whole load of tissues. I'm gutted Rakhee's left, but at least she left on a high. She's made the character of Shabnam a pivotal and complex one in her two short years in EastEnders. I'm sure she'll go on to great things. :bow:
why did shirley give jade to shabnam
She did the right thing for once. It's redeemed her somewhat in my eyes.
Storyseeker was correct about Dean pleading not guilty. :clap:
I really wanted this to be the end of the rape storyline! At least Dean stayed true to his character I suppose, and there's always a chance he'll change his plea. He wasn't happy about losing Shirley's support.
Kudos to the writer of that episode. It was perfect! :cheer:
storyseeker1
06-02-2016, 01:58
Well, I called it. I knew Dean was never gonna plead guilty. The time for him growing a conscience has long since past. I pity poor Shirley, though I don't know why she was so shocked. The woman is obviously too gullible when it comes to him. Loved the part where he was denied bail and taken down! Strange, though, as I also thought the rape storyline would be finished here, as I thought Matt Di Angelo was finished with EE now. But I guess they're gonna keep this dragging on for a while longer, which I suppose is realistic when it comes to courts and hearings. Even in real life, solicitors and judges etc keep it going on and on and on and on...
His hearing is set for June? So I'm guessing that if we see Dean again, it probably won't be until around then.
It was sad to see Shabs go, but it was a sweet departure for her and Jade. I am sorry to see Jade go, though, even more. I liked seeing scenes with her, Shirley etc. But Kush was the one I felt most sorry for. Even at the end he kept trying to reach Shabs as she drove away.
I'm liking the sound of Jordan even less and less, but part of me is actually rooting for Denise to try and help him. I know that it seems more likely that they're gonna write Jordan as a villain, but he's still a kid. He's been through a lot, what with his mum murdered by his dad and everything. It's really no wonder he turned out like he has. And I don't like the way people are quick to write him off. I understand why his aunt turned her back on him, as she had her family, and I understand why everyone's so hesitant...but they still shouldn't be so quick to turn their backs on him until they've at least met him and given him a chance. I like to think that there's hope for everyone. Maybe not for Dean, as he's had his fair share of chances that he's blown, but with Jordan who has yet to make an appearance there's still hope.
I mean, for all I know Jordan may do a Dean and turn out bad anyway, but everyone deserves help when they need it, and Jordan certainly sounds like someone in desperate need of help. If they do nothing then there's no hope for him, but everyone should at least "try" to help someone redeem themselves.
LollyCarpenter
07-02-2016, 07:41
What a sad episode, I cried through the last few scenes. Shabs was my favourite character and I felt so bad for Kush even though he cheated on her. I suppose now the way is clear Kush and Stacey will be together, not something I'd look forward to at all. I was glad though that Shirley did the right and unselfish thing in the end and let Jade be with her mother. And my other favourite couple, Tamwar and Nancy broke up, too. :(
Agree sad to see Shabs leave , good decision from Shirley and found out Jade's view. I just wish the transfer of Jade from Shirley to Shabs could have been handled with more account taken of the legal process,even if there was a delay in Jade's departure,fora aweek or so. Having said that the original court order decision process was unrealistic.
felt their exits was rushed, rahkee is a big loss great actress
felt their exits was rushed
It was rushed but it felt well planned and heartfelt - not just an afterthought (like Lola's last episode for example). I wonder if it was done that way to keep Shabnam's exit a surprise? It certainly shocked lots of us!
flappinfanny
08-02-2016, 00:19
Caught up with the last two episodes of EE and Friday's was very sad with Shabnam leaving. I am a sucker for Julia's theme. I loved how she didn't look at Kush in the taxi as she drove off. You deserve so much more Shabs and for some reason I just want to punch Carmel. They are going to really miss Rakhee Thakrar, a great talent, I am sure she will go on to many great roles. Nice performances from Maddie Hill and of course Diane Parish. Just love Denise. '4 minutes and ping.' :D What is the matter with Tamwar, he needs putting in a bag and given a good shake or a kick up the ****. Get a grip man!
P.S glad Jade has gone, she was a bit over bearing.
I agree Carmel's been annoying recently and I usually like her. The way Masood spoke to her was totally out of order though!
P.S glad Jade has gone, she was a bit over bearing.
Aww...I find Jade entertaining and am hoping she'll visit occasionally. :p
Keeping Jade close might even be the reason why Shabnam was written as staying in London as opposed to moving to Pakistan. It's quite unusual for a departing soap character to stay within easy visiting distance of their former home.
maidmarian
08-02-2016, 00:48
Caught up with the last two episodes of EE and Friday's was very sad with Shabnam leaving. I am a sucker for Julia's theme. I loved how she didn't look at Kush in the taxi as she drove off. You deserve so much more Shabs and for some reason I just want to punch Carmel. They are going to really miss Rakhee Thakrar, a great talent, I am sure she will go on to many great roles. Nice performances from Maddie Hill and of course Diane Parish. Just love Denise. '4 minutes and ping.' :D What is the matter with Tamwar, he needs putting in a bag and given a good shake or a kick up the ****. Get a grip man!
P.S glad Jade has gone, she was a bit over bearing.
perhaps Jade got it from Shirley.!!
Although it was right for Shirley to let Jade go
with Shabs! I hope thats not meant to redeem
her character of the things she has done over the
last year or so and how shes behaved with Linda!!
maidmarian
08-02-2016, 01:05
I agree Carmel's been annoying recently and I usually like her. The way Masood spoke to her was totally out of order though!
Aww...I find Jade entertaining and am hoping she'll visit occasionally. :p
Keeping Jade close might even be the reason why Shabnam was written as staying in London as opposed to moving to Pakistan. It's quite unusual for a departing soap character to stay within visiting distance of their former home.
Thakree is a great loss to EE.!!
Perhaps they hope to tempt her back after
a while. Tho she is so talented Im sure she
will gain lots of other acting work.
It would be easier and more realistic to
bring back.a character who is in.London
than one who is in Pakistan!!
It would be easier and more realistic to
bring back.a character who is in.London
than one who is in Pakistan!!
True, but you could say that about the many soap characters who flee hundreds, if not thousands, of miles when they leave.
Just recently in EE we've had Lauren and Peter to New Zealand, Kat and Alfie to Spain, Johnny Carter to Italy, Cindy and Liam to Germany (and Carol too I believe), Lola to Newcastle. Going back further: Grant and Peggy went to Portugal, Michelle and Sharon America, Zainab Pakistan, Stacey Mexico, Kathy South Africa. I'm sure there's plenty of other examples.
They're probably sent far away from home just so viewers won't complain they never visit. :p
maidmarian
08-02-2016, 02:27
True, but you could say that about the many soap characters who flee hundreds, if not thousands, of miles when they leave.
Just recently in EE we've had Lauren and Peter to New Zealand, Kat and Alfie to Spain, Johnny Carter to Italy, Cindy and Liam to Germany (and Carol too I believe), Lola to Newcastle. Going back further: Grant and Peggy went to Portugal, Michelle and Sharon America, Zainab Pakistan, Stacey Mexico, Kathy South Africa. I'm sure there's plenty of other examples.
They're probably sent far away from home just so viewers won't complain they never visit. :p
Thats true!
My reasons for thinking as I do - is most of the
those who have left dont seem as talented as
Thakree!
And didnt make such an impression.:p
Also it was the soaps choice to end contract rather
than the actors.
Im sure they would always have Carol.& Grant back!!:heart:u
No comment on some of the others!
Its all personal preference !!:ninja::p
My reasons for thinking as I do - is most of the
those who have left dont seem as talented as
Thakree!
And didnt make such an impression.:p
Yes, she really is an exceptional actress. I'm going to follow her career with interest. I'm curious to see her play characters that are warmer and more cheerful than Shabnam.
parkerman
08-02-2016, 09:13
It seems to me that moving about half a mile away from the Square is a big adventure for most, never mind Ealing!
Rear window
08-02-2016, 09:33
It was a bit quick but she'd said she was leaving for Pakistan on her own. Going with Jade was a very satisfying end to that storyline.
Now we have all the drama of Kush, Arthur and Martin.
Rear window
08-02-2016, 09:33
It was a bit quick but she'd said she was leaving for Pakistan on her own. Going with Jade was a very satisfying end to that storyline.
Now we have all the drama of Kush, Arthur and Martin.
Rear window
08-02-2016, 22:00
who wrote all that cockney nonsense for Mick tonight!
who wrote all that cockney nonsense for Mick tonight!
danny dyer
has cora been recast :p
who wrote all that cockney nonsense for Mick tonight!
danny dyer
has cora been recast :p
parkerman
08-02-2016, 22:33
who wrote all that cockney nonsense for Mick tonight!
That equally nonsense Eastend landlady who hit on Kush I should think.
tammyy2j
09-02-2016, 00:08
I enjoy Ben and Jay's brotherly banter
Seriously what girl on her own would end up in Ian's café late at night for a milk shake :searchme:
Getting tired and fed up of Kush and Carmel
flappinfanny
09-02-2016, 00:28
I know it was cringe worthy but I did enjoy the scenes in the Vic with the East End Land ladies. Rough old lot aren't they.
Denise was the best thing about tonight's episode. Like the relationship she has with Carmel. I don't think the the relationship between Kush and his Mum is very healthy.
It will be a shame if this is the last we see of Buster. I thought how Mick called Shirley Mum was a bit odd and seemed forced. Also it's highly hilarious that Specy 4 eyes Joe 90 is getting more action than Jay. Come on get in the real world.
flappinfanny
09-02-2016, 00:31
It seems to me that moving about half a mile away from the Square is a big adventure for most, never mind Ealing!
And Newport Pagnell is abroad.
I know it was cringe worthy but I did enjoy the scenes in the Vic with the East End Land ladies. Rough old lot aren't they.
Denise was the best thing about tonight's episode. Like the relationship she has with Carmel. I don't think the the relationship between Kush and his Mum is very healthy.
It will be a shame if this is the last we see of Buster. I thought how Mick called Shirley Mum was a bit odd and seemed forced. Also it's highly hilarious that Specy 4 eyes Joe 90 is getting more action than Jay. Come on get in the real world.
ben has abi and paul for action, greedy mitchell
I know it was cringe worthy but I did enjoy the scenes in the Vic with the East End Land ladies. Rough old lot aren't they.
Denise was the best thing about tonight's episode. Like the relationship she has with Carmel. I don't think the the relationship between Kush and his Mum is very healthy.
It will be a shame if this is the last we see of Buster. I thought how Mick called Shirley Mum was a bit odd and seemed forced. Also it's highly hilarious that Specy 4 eyes Joe 90 is getting more action than Jay. Come on get in the real world.
ben has abi and paul for action, greedy mitchell
It seems to me that moving about half a mile away from the Square is a big adventure for most, never mind Ealing!
And yet nobody bats an eye when a high percentage of these insular residents of Albert Square pack a rucksack and move halfway across the world at a day's notice! :hmm:
danny dyer
Yes, Mick's rhyming slang is Danny Dyer's doing. This is a quote from Mick's Wikipedia page (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Carter):
Dyer said that he wanted viewers to be confused by Mick's use of cockney rhyming slang and wanted to get as much 'cockney-ness' into the role as he could. He said that his own use of slang was sometimes 'too out there' for the show but he had tried to stop it being taken out.
I know it was cringe worthy but I did enjoy the scenes in the Vic with the East End Land ladies. Rough old lot aren't they.
Just a bit! At least the Cora lookalike cheered Kush up for a while. :D
Denise was the best thing about tonight's episode. Like the relationship she has with Carmel.
I like anything that gives Denise more screen time. Hopefully Jordan will do that too.
It will be a shame if this is the last we see of Buster.
Another character who's potential has been wasted (so far).
I thought how Mick called Shirley Mum was a bit odd and seemed forced.
I agree, I thought that too.
Rear window
09-02-2016, 13:22
Seriously what girl on her own would end up in Ian's café late at night for a milk shake :searchme:
She was waiting to take someone home who would be drunk...
So is she the boozy landlady's daughter?
Rear window
09-02-2016, 13:22
Seriously what girl on her own would end up in Ian's café late at night for a milk shake :searchme:
She was waiting to take someone home who would be drunk...
So is she the boozy landlady's daughter?
Rear window
09-02-2016, 13:23
Yes, Mick's rhyming slang is Danny Dyer's doing. This is a quote from Mick's Wikipedia page (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Carter):
.
Oi, Carter! NO!
It was dire.
LOL.
has mick not already been calling shirley mum before now
why is buster leaving?
has mick not already been calling shirley mum before now
why is buster leaving?
parkerman
09-02-2016, 20:17
Oi, Carter! NO!
It was dire.
LOL.
Yes, it would be OK if he'd always spoken like this, but he hasn't. Just to suddenly introduce a lot of rhyming slang and uvver cockney chatter is a bit ridiculous.
Yes, it would be OK if he'd always spoken like this, but he hasn't. Just to suddenly introduce a lot of rhyming slang and uvver cockney chatter is a bit ridiculous.
I thought he'd always spoken like that. It might have been worse than usual last night but I've noticed the rhyming slang etc lots of times before. I read an article about Danny Dyer adding it to Mick's dialogue back when he was still quite a new character.
This might explain why he sounded ridiculous last night:
He said he appreciated show bosses letting him use the slang - but admitted he sometimes makes words up.
Executive producer Dominic Treadwell-Collins said he has to check certain words on Google as he knows Dyer would "try and slip something in".
:rotfl:
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-09-26/danny-dyer-warns-cockney-rhyming-slang-is-dying-out/
buster and shirley enders own romeo and juliet epic love story, mickey all happy letting his parents have a roll
parkerman
09-02-2016, 23:49
I thought he'd always spoken like that. It might have been worse than usual last night but I've noticed the rhyming slang etc lots of times before.
Yes, he has always spoken "cockney" of course with rhyming slang thrown in but it has been tempered to make it a bit more understandable I suppose. But as someone born and brought up with cockney as me muvver tongue, I have to say his complete lapse into the vernacular was much more pronounced last night and I was thinking of remarking on it before Rear window mentioned it.
Joivan Wade so far seems to be a good actor. My first impression of Jordan is that he's an interesting character who could be good for Denise. I didn't enjoy the way her family ganged up on him, and the final scene was horrible. :(
The making up scene between Carmel and Kush at the end of the episode was nice. I enjoyed his scenes with Sonia too. I'm thinking he might well be a stronger character out of Shabnam's shadow. I wonder if the paternity secret will be a long running storyline? If so, I think it could be interesting to explore the effect on Kush of seeing his friend raise his son.
Tuesday's episode was one of those low-key, well-written, character driven ones that I enjoy immensely.
tammyy2j
10-02-2016, 12:07
I am missing Shabnam and Jade :(
I like Jordan so far but do Kim and Patrick forget Vincent and Paul were no angels, I get they want to protect Denise from Lucas's son but he has no one :angry:
I think Denise needs to feel needed and wants to help him
storyseeker1
10-02-2016, 13:57
I am missing Shabnam and Jade :(
I like Jordan so far but do Kim and Patrick forget Vincent and Paul were no angels, I get they want to protect Denise from Lucas's son but he has no one :angry:
I think Denise needs to feel needed and wants to help him
I agree. I admit Jordan makes me feel hesitant, especially when he threw Denise into the wall, but he's still just a kid. He's not a complete lost cause just yet, and if no one helps him then he will definitely become that. Maybe he will turn out to be a lost cause anyway, but they should at least try to help him before writing him off.
Besides, Patrick is one to talk. His son didn't turn out right as I recall, and that was in no small part thanks to him.
tammyy2j
10-02-2016, 17:07
Abi remembers how bad Babe was to Cora despite helping get her a flat in the end and now they are very friendly seems strange
I know Abi has no one besides Ben and grandma Dot but Babe as a confidant not wise
flappinfanny
11-02-2016, 00:53
A good episode on the whole. I liked the Shirley and Buster scenes. I hope Nancy does not go and work for Thelma. Lisa Linda won't like that. I want Abi to stay with that polo mint round her neck and be in pain for a very long time.
Jordan made a good first impression. Diane Parish has again proved her worth and was the best thing about the episode.
Rear window
11-02-2016, 08:54
I assume that Thelma's daughter will be in it more cos of Jay.
sneaky whitney putting lee in for nancy's job
who is running car lot, if it is not lee
sneaky whitney putting lee in for nancy's job
who is running car lot, if it is not lee
flappinfanny
11-02-2016, 21:25
I enjoyed the episode, for saying it was run of the mill. Line of the night goes to Babe: "Out all night doing the Hokey Coker". :D
The Denise and Jordan scenes were very impressive. I think Pam and Kathy will become mates now. I sort of saw the old Kathy tonight, I hate to say it because I have been so anti the Kathy return, but it is working and when she's not with the Squeals Beales, she really works as a character, interacting in the square. Can Bobby just bump off his Mum and Dad then everything will be good. :wall:
P.S Witless Whitney is a bitch.
storyseeker1
11-02-2016, 22:40
What a cow Whitney is! I know she doesn't get on with Nancy, but using her own brother against her??? Unforgiveable!
Jordan has a son??? Remind me, how old he is again? What was he when JJ was born; 12...13 yrs old?
ben and jordan can share daddy stories
flappinfanny
12-02-2016, 00:23
ben and jordan can share daddy stories
With a spanner. I think Jordan would kick Benjamin's ass now!
"Out all night doing the Hokey Coker". :D
That was very funny and unexpected! Also, Babe's whole conversation with Abi about lesbians and beards was very entertaining. :rotfl:
The Denise and Jordan scenes were very impressive.
They were indeed. Giving Denise a de facto son and grandchild is genius, especially because their link to Lucas will bring up all sorts of issues for her.
I hate to say it because I have been so anti the Kathy return, but it is working and when she's not with the Squeals Beales, she really works as a character, interacting in the square.
She really does work well now her ridiculous and poorly-written return storyline is out of the way.
Jordan has a son??? Remind me, how old he is again? What was he when JJ was born; 12...13 yrs old?
Jordan's about the same age as Ben and Abi. At least he's in good company with the many residents of Albert Square who had kids very young. :D
Jordan was coincidentally Abi's first boyfriend. I wonder if he'll play a part in the Abi/Ben/Paul love triangle?
With a spanner. I think Jordan would kick Benjamin's ass now!
I wonder if Ben's brave enough these days to inform Jordan he needs "slappin' daahn"? https://smileyshack.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/smileyslaughing_lol_hehe_100-102.gif?w=700&h=
parkerman
12-02-2016, 09:34
She really does work well now her ridiculous and poorly-written return storyline is out of the way.
You mean there was a storyline to explain her return? I must have missed it! :D
is jj really jordan's son or libby or chelsea so really is denise grandson
Rear window
12-02-2016, 23:14
What a vile thing to do to anyone in public like that. horrid Babs and Horrid Abi.
storyseeker1
12-02-2016, 23:58
I'm actually not sure what to think of Babe in tonight's ep. I thought maybe this was just some plan of hers to get in good with someone, like her other plans have been, but now I'm not so sure. I know Babe has issues with her sister Sylvie, who used to belittle her when they were growing up and generally make her life hell, and I got the feeling that was what was implied tonight. Judging by the way Babe was talking to Abi, it sounded more like Babe was talking about her own experience and letting her own emotions and past-pain control her. So much so that she's letting them override her common sense about Ben.
And everything I believed about Abi seems to have been confirmed tonight; her talking about being second-best and everything. She's just so desperate to be loved that she's blinding herself to the truth about Ben.
I find it harder to believe that Abi really is pregnant now. I mean it's just too damn coincidental that she ends up in the club while all this stuff with Ben is happening. I know she's due to go to the doctors, but then again Babe probably has contacts anywhere due to her time when she was selling babies. so she's probably arranged it all.
Loved all the parts with Jordan and JJ. JJ is just sooo cute! I hope Vincent can help get rid of Jordan's debt. I heard that Denise actually suggests at some point to Jordan for him to go visit Lucas. (And Kim was worried Jordan would be the one to bring Lucas back into their lives???)
flappinfanny
13-02-2016, 01:04
I have never wanted to smack anybody so much as Witless (apart from Rob from the Archers) I hope Nancy smacks her one. Poor Buster. :(
I was horrified at what Kim had done to the lovely Pearl, it made me feel sick. Disgusting. The Hubbard's/Fox's/Trueman's make a nice family unit. DTC/Lamb don't ruin it!
The duff duff was very cringe worthy but I did enjoy it. :D
flappinfanny
13-02-2016, 01:07
Abi better watch out, if she was PG , Babe would see pound signs.
Actually it would be funny if Abi did turn out to be up the duff, it would serve her right. :nono:
I'm actually not sure what to think of Babe in tonight's ep.
I think Babe enjoys stirring and manipulating people. Also, she seems to be living vicariously through Abi by having her "win" Ben back because she regrets not trying to do so with Stan. Plus she sees herself in Abi and sympathises to a degree. I'd be surprised if Babe truly cares about Abi or her relationship with Ben though.
And everything I believed about Abi seems to have been confirmed tonight; her talking about being second-best and everything. She's just so desperate to be loved that she's blinding herself to the truth about Ben.
I think she's past the point of being blind to the truth about Ben. She acknowledged it tonight to Babe yet still wants him as much as ever. She really is pathetically desperate for a family. This is what Max and Tanya have done to her! :angry:
I find it harder to believe that Abi really is pregnant now. I mean it's just too damn coincidental that she ends up in the club while all this stuff with Ben is happening. I know she's due to go to the doctors, but then again Babe probably has contacts anywhere due to her time when she was selling babies. so she's probably arranged it all.
I don't think Abi's pregnant. As you say, it's waaay too convenient plus there wasn't a hint of a pregnancy before the big announcement.
I believe if you go to a GP and tell them you've taken a pregnancy test and that it's positive, they just take your word for it and refer you to the local ante-natal department. If that is the case, she wouldn't be found out until she has any tests or scans. I suppose her long term plan must be to try and get pregnant in the meantime, or perhaps to "lose" the baby when she can no longer fake it? Anything to keep hold of Ben for a bit longer... :wall:
Loved all the parts with Jordan and JJ. JJ is just sooo cute! I hope Vincent can help get rid of Jordan's debt. I heard that Denise actually suggests at some point to Jordan for him to go visit Lucas. (And Kim was worried Jordan would be the one to bring Lucas back into their lives???)
Jordan and JJ living with Denise and Patrick as a family seems to have happened too easily and quickly. No doubt there's more strife to come; you're probably right that it'll be something to do with Lucas and/or the legacy of his crimes.
I wonder if Vincent could be in for trouble from the gang to whom Jordan owes money?
Anyone else wondering if Linzi's too young for Jay? :hmm:
I have never wanted to smack anybody so much as Witless (apart from Rob from the Archers) I hope Nancy smacks her one. Poor Buster. :(
I'm a bit embarrassed to admit I think Whitney makes quite a good bitch. Her smirk at Nancy's expense was classic! :o :D
She's not going the right way about helping Lee though. The last thing he needs is his sister's enmity. However, I've no doubt part of Whitney's motivation was getting one over on Nancy. :nono:
Lee might go back to working on the fish stall. He obviously felt bad for both Buster and Nancy.
storyseeker1
13-02-2016, 04:00
I believe if you go to a GP and tell them you've taken a pregnancy test and that it's positive, they just take your word for it and refer you to the local ante-natal department. If that is the case, she wouldn't be found out until she has any tests or scans. I suppose her long term plan must be to try and get pregnant in the meantime, or perhaps to "lose" the baby when she can no longer fake it? Anything to keep hold of Ben for a bit longer... :wall:
Haven't a clue what the procedure is for pregnancies. I just assumed you had to have an official test from the doctor before anything else. I know they say these home pregnancy tests are efficient now, though personally I would want to hear it from the doctor before celebrating.
I couldn't believe how pathetic she was tonight though. I mean, it was beyond sad! The way she kept going on, saying "Okay, so sometimes he likes boys..." Hello! He's not bi, he's a straight homosexual, so it's not sometimes!
Even when Jordan showed up, he figured it out immediately, and he hadn't seen Ben for years! "No, he's not gay!" Seriously, what does it take to get through to this girl?!
Jordan and JJ living with Denise and Patrick as a family seems to have happened too easily and quickly. No doubt there's more strife to come; you're probably right that it'll be something to do with Lucas and/or the legacy of his crimes.
Nothing good ever happens for long on Albert Square. There'll be heartache to come by soon, make no mistake about it. But I do hope things work out for Jordan and JJ with Denise. It's the first time I've seen her genuinely smile.
I wonder if Vincent could be in for trouble from the gang to whom Jordan owes money?
Yeah, I thought that, too. I know he has experience with this sort of thing, and he's got contacts and back-up, but you can never be too careful with gangs like these.
Rear window
13-02-2016, 11:03
I wonder if Vincent could be in for trouble from the gang to whom Jordan owes money?
He's being set up for some horrid thing I'm sure. And then the gang will know were Jordan is.
Rear window
13-02-2016, 11:03
I wonder if Vincent could be in for trouble from the gang to whom Jordan owes money?
He's being set up for some horrid thing I'm sure. And then the gang will know were Jordan is.
Rear window
13-02-2016, 11:14
I was horrified at what Kim had done to the lovely Pearl, it made me feel sick. Disgusting. The Hubbard's/Fox's/Trueman's make a nice family unit. DTC/Lamb don't ruin it!
Earrings on a baby are vile, horrid, digusting, urrghh! Horrid.
But yeah the HFT as a family could work really well - long may it last! A much nicer use of Old Mother Hubbard.
Rear window
13-02-2016, 11:14
I was horrified at what Kim had done to the lovely Pearl, it made me feel sick. Disgusting. The Hubbard's/Fox's/Trueman's make a nice family unit. DTC/Lamb don't ruin it!
Earrings on a baby are vile, horrid, digusting, urrghh! Horrid.
But yeah the HFT as a family could work really well - long may it last! A much nicer use of Old Mother Hubbard.
whitney wants to turn lee into mick, she will want him talking cockney loads next and wearing a waistcoat
Here we go again, re-hash of old stories ... didn't somebody from 'The Vic' (Dirty Den) advise Zoe to pretned she was pregnant, and when she said but I'm not told her to get pregnant ...but Dennis wasn't doing the deed so Den stepped in ... well Babe has said to Abi get pregnant, but will Ben and Abi be able to ... or will Babe have to get turkey baster? Hope the plan does NOT work very bad idea to give young girls. I thought she was supposed to be clever :-/
Here we go again, re-hash of old stories ... didn't somebody from 'The Vic' (Dirty Den) advise Zoe to pretned she was pregnant, and when she said but I'm not told her to get pregnant ...but Dennis wasn't doing the deed so Den stepped in ... well Babe has said to Abi get pregnant, but will Ben and Abi be able to ... or will Babe have to get turkey baster? Hope the plan does NOT work very bad idea to give young girls. I thought she was supposed to be clever :-/
are you suggesting abi and phil :sick:
flappinfanny
16-02-2016, 00:55
An enjoyable episode apart from the duff duff. Line of the night goes to Phil 'ooooooooooooooooops.' :D However Harry Reid was bit shouty tonight.
Whitney is turning into a delicious bitcho. And Babe that hat. She looked like she was auditioning for Crossroads as Mrs Shughie McFee. All she needed were the Bag pipe's. I half expected Russ Abbott to pop round the corner.
parkerman
16-02-2016, 01:01
I found Jay very irritating tonight. Especially as, until tonight, he was the one who was so insistent that Ben end it with Abi.
Suddenly Martin understands Stac is ill..took him long enough.
Abbi knows Ben is gay all babe has done is condem her to her prolonged delusional misery.
Cathys whinny voice really iritates me, has she always sounded like a petulant spoilt kid.
Suddenly Martin understands Stac is ill..took him long enough.
Abbi knows Ben is gay all babe has done is condem her to her prolonged delusional misery.
Cathys whinny voice really iritates me, has she always sounded like a petulant spoilt kid.
I'm beginning to think all Gavin is good for is lurking in the shadows to grab the duff duffs. I know Paul Nicholas had other work booked when he accepted the part of Gavin, but his long disappearances and cliffhanger returns are getting tedious now.
Couldn't EE have found an actor who was available to play the part?
Here we go again, re-hash of old stories ... didn't somebody from 'The Vic' (Dirty Den) advise Zoe to pretned she was pregnant, and when she said but I'm not told her to get pregnant ...but Dennis wasn't doing the deed so Den stepped in ... well Babe has said to Abi get pregnant, but will Ben and Abi be able to ... or will Babe have to get turkey baster?
There are indeed similarities to the Zoe storyline, although I wonder if "Dirty" Den didn't set up that scenario to get Zoe into bed with him. At least we can't accuse Babe of that! :eek:
From the way we were gleefully informed that Abi and Ben had been "celebrating" all weekend, a turkey baster may not be required this time. Hopefully Abi won't get pregnant no matter how much celebrating she and Ben do...
However Harry Reid was bit shouty tonight.
I noticed that too. I usually think he plays Ben well, but he was well over the top in Monday's episode.
Suddenly Martin understands Stac is ill..took him long enough.
Didn't it just? Still, it's nice to see him being understanding now and doing everything possible to help Stacey. He's really grown on me lately.
Abbi knows Ben is gay all babe has done is condem her to her prolonged delusional misery.
Babe doesn't care about Abi. She cares about getting her own way, which at the moment happens to be winning back Stan by fair means or foul...oops I mean helping Abi to win back Ben! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
storyseeker1
16-02-2016, 03:55
Well, it's confirmed anyway that Abi's not pregnant. At least that's one thing they're not going to drag on. I just can't believe how desperate she is. And I can't believe how ridiculous Babe is being, helping her like that. I mean, Ben's gay! Chances are he's not going to want to get physical with Abi, if that's her plan, unless she goes to a sperm bank or something. But that's gonna bite her in the ass if what the latest news says is true!
Gavin is back, and with his usual shadowy entrance at the last second of the episode.
parkerman
16-02-2016, 10:17
Chances are he's not going to want to get physical with Abi,
Well he obviously does get jiggy with Abi sometimes or she wouldn't be able to say she's pregnant. Also, didn't they "celebrate" at the weekend.
Rear window
16-02-2016, 10:33
Well he obviously does get jiggy with Abi sometimes or she wouldn't be able to say she's pregnant. Also, didn't they "celebrate" at the weekend.
All over him?
It's a horrid storyline, one destined to end badly. He's gay Abi, doesn't want a baby and doesn't want you. So leave him alone. Babe is pure evil. Bitching at Whitney about her valentines day with Lee.
I think Whitney's done mean thing regards Lee's sister over the job, but she's standing up for her man. It's not like there's only two pubs that they could work in.
Lovely line off Dot in the Cafe to Kath about 'valentines is for couples, not people like us' .. :)
And Pantomime Villain is back. Boo.
And Pantomime Villain is back. Boo.
I've said it before and I'll it now. Why do these people leave their doors on the latch?
Or are all the folk expert housebreakers?
Rear window
16-02-2016, 13:02
I've said it before and I'll it now. Why do these people leave their doors on the latch?
Or are all the folk expert housebreakers?
The police will tell you most burglaries happen through insecurities: people leaving doors and windows open. We are a nation of idiots.
Well he obviously does get jiggy with Abi sometimes or she wouldn't be able to say she's pregnant. Also, didn't they "celebrate" at the weekend.
Quite correct Mr.P. Abi has slept with Ben on more than one occasion, bragged about it to all and sundry at the time.
Didn't Abi claim to be pregnant 3 or 4yrs ago when she was with Jay ?
tammyy2j
16-02-2016, 16:19
An enjoyable episode apart from the duff duff. Line of the night goes to Phil 'ooooooooooooooooops.' :D However Harry Reid was bit shouty tonight.
Whitney is turning into a delicious bitcho. And Babe that hat. She looked like she was auditioning for Crossroads as Mrs Shughie McFee. All she needed were the Bag pipe's. I half expected Russ Abbott to pop round the corner.
Or you love boys to Ben :p
I think Abi needs to go see her mother or Tanya come pay her a visit
Babe is evil!!! I'm worried about what she's going to do to poor Les after he so effectively put her in her place. The woman has no shame - and probably no depths to which she won't sink. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/devil/smileys-devil-042296.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
I find Gavin a mesmerising character when he's quietly manipulating people (rather than sensational nonsense with fireworks). Kathy denied him for a long time tonight but he kept picking at the scab until she caved. At least Dot wasn't having any of it! :clap:
Nice to see Tracy getting more lines recently. So she quite likes the smell of fish... :sick:
I hadnt realised that was Paul Nicholas, that soppy love sitcom when we only had one telly did my head in.
Dipping your chips in her Kurma..was that a euphemism :ninja: may be I dreamt that line :moonie:
Les will be outed but it will end well, babe is a low IQ villian with an inability to understand repercussions will bite her on the bodies cushoned area.
RE above..Im still not warming to new Martin, insensative ignorant dull minded thug..oh wait that could be a descrption of me :wall:
Rear window
17-02-2016, 09:34
Les will be outed but it will end well, babe is a low IQ villian with an inability to understand repercussions will bite her on the bodies cushoned area.
l:
Dear script writers, if you put petrol on stuff and light it then it'll all be burnt by the time you stumble about in the dark on an unfamiliar allotment site for the tap and a bucket...
I know they want a storyline but having a picture drop in the dark and be missed would have felt more sensible to me.
Poor Les.
Nasty babe.
Rear window
17-02-2016, 09:34
Les will be outed but it will end well, babe is a low IQ villian with an inability to understand repercussions will bite her on the bodies cushoned area.
l:
Dear script writers, if you put petrol on stuff and light it then it'll all be burnt by the time you stumble about in the dark on an unfamiliar allotment site for the tap and a bucket...
I know they want a storyline but having a picture drop in the dark and be missed would have felt more sensible to me.
Poor Les.
Nasty babe.
tammyy2j
17-02-2016, 15:42
Babe will do damage with that photo, blackmail Les or Paul
Babe will do damage with that photo, blackmail Les or Paul
Babe is so bitter and twisted she may bypass the blackmail stage and go straight out to destroy any relationships she can. I think if Babe ruins Les's chance of a reconciliation with Pam either Babe or Les will end up in the Coker funeral parlour.
Les will be outed but it will end well, babe is a low IQ villian with an inability to understand repercussions will bite her on the bodies cushoned area.
I hope you're right that it'll end well. Even if it does, I don't want to see Les made a laughing stock or worse in the meantime. I don't think Pam could cope if his secret were made public knowledge either. :(
I'm not so sure Babe has a low IQ. Things often don't go her way, but she's sneaky and very manipulative which requires some brainpower. She got away with selling babies for years too which tells me she can think on her feet. I think she's one of those people that are always underestimated and she probably plays on that.
RE above..Im still not warming to new Martin, insensative ignorant dull minded thug..oh wait that could be a descrption of me :wall:
But Martin has been sensitive recently! :p
You don't come across as an ignorant, dull-minded thug, but maybe you're lulling us into a false sense of security? http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/devil/smileys-devil-695223.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
parkerman
18-02-2016, 00:27
Nice to see Tracy getting more lines recently. So she quite likes the smell of fish... :sick:
Perhaps that's why she doesn't seem to have many friends to talk to....
flappinfanny
18-02-2016, 00:34
Tracey was funny in Tuesday's episode. I think because it was so random made even more so. 'I quite like the smell of fish.' :D
Daran Little wrote a good script, the Les and Pam scenes were very strong and I thought the scenes with Dot, Kathy and Gavin were good and we had a mention of Ethel and her little Willy. The only thing is when I am watching Paul Nicholas all I can think of is the shredded wheat on his head. That is a bad syrup. I also had to smile at the not so subtle plug for BBC 3 going on line by Sonia.
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You don't come across as an ignorant, dull-minded thug, but maybe you're lulling us into a false sense of security? http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/devil/smileys-devil-695223.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
Im also a secret lemonade drinker. :cheer:
"But Martin has been sensitive recently! :p "
Its just a difficult issue for me, he did the wrong things up to now, he knew the score with Stacy off her meds ,yet still left her lone in charge of baby.
But then didnt Sonia dump him because of his diconect with her issues and out with lads agenda.
Its just a difficult issue for me, he did the wrong things up to now, he knew the score with Stacy off her meds ,yet still left her lone in charge of baby.
I found that difficult too, and even skipped a couple of episodes because I couldn't bear to watch it. I suppose I've been able to forgive Martin because he's been great since he got Stacey to hospital and has redeemed himself somewhat in my eyes.
I see his inaction as stupidity rather than insensitivity. To be honest, the whole thing makes such little sense to me that I've mostly blotted it out of my memory! :D
But then didnt Sonia dump him because of his diconect with her issues and out with lads agenda.
She did indeed.
denny is looking all better hanging with granddad
storyseeker1
19-02-2016, 00:56
denny is looking all better hanging with granddad
Yeah, I'm willing to bet Denny's a future-Gavin. They're definitely alike. And already it looks like Denny's got a hero-worship of him, as he was willing to go behind his mom's back and text him. Somehow, I don't see this ending well.
Typical; Abi finally sees sense, only for her to chicken out and continue lying to Ben, just because he started saying "I love you" at the doctors. Seriously, I don't know who I'm more mad at: Abi for her lying and ridiculous delusions with Ben! Or Ben for not learning to tell the truth, and to keep saying 'I love you' to her when he knows it's not true! Sometimes I wonder if it would be better for him to have his mouth sown shut.
flappinfanny
19-02-2016, 01:00
denny is looking all better hanging with granddad
Ice cream and not a biscuit?
What is Babe going to do. Donna has got her measure. Pam is too trusting. Abi is so in the doo doo and I have no sympathy for Tina. I know I keep banging on about it, but I still can't concentrate on Paul Nicholas scenes without looking at that syrup on his head. Sharon was a bit heavy handed tonight with the makeup, the word trowel and concrete spring to mind. Sonia and Tina are getting on my nerves. The crash had more of an impact off screen, rather than on.
maidmarian
19-02-2016, 01:13
Ice cream and not a biscuit?
What is Babe going to do. Donna has got her measure. Pam is too trusting. Abi is so in the doo doo and I have no sympathy for Tina. I know I keep banging on about it, but I still can't concentrate on Paul Nicholas scenes without looking at that syrup on his head. Sharon was a bit heavy handed tonight with the makeup, the word trowel and concrete spring to mind. Sonia and Tina are getting on my nerves. The crash had more of an impact off screen, rather than on.
I know- the"syrup" is terrible- makes him look
ancient. !!
I know- the"syrup" is terrible- makes him look
ancient. !!
I'd just written a paragraph stating that I'm not convinced Paul Nicholas is wearing a wig because it'd be such a bad one if true! However, a quick bit of googling would appear to confirm your suspicions. Not that I think there's anything wrong with wearing a hairpiece; it's just such an astonishingly bad one! :eek:
Agreed about Sharon's makeup too. It took me out of the scene because I was busy wondering who was responsible for her clown look. Sharon's always been heavy-handed with the makeup but that seemed an extreme daytime look even for her!
Why do soaps always drag out secrets and try to keep us on the edge of our seats with repetitive and supposedly nailbiting "will they confess all?" scenes? It gets boring very fast. :wall:
Sad about Martin and Arthur's car crash. I hope they're OK and that it doesn't affect Stacey's review. :(
Typical; Abi finally sees sense, only for her to chicken out and continue lying to Ben, just because he started saying "I love you" at the doctors. Seriously, I don't know who I'm more mad at: Abi for her lying and ridiculous delusions with Ben! Or Ben for not learning to tell the truth, and to keep saying 'I love you' to her when he knows it's not true! Sometimes I wonder if it would be better for him to have his mouth sown shut.
I feel after Abies attack on Lucy (whos Lucy we all now ask) her attempt to drown Lauren Ben may not realise how close he is to a wood chipper, he needs to consult Flatboy on that one.
I feel after Abies attack on Lucy (whos Lucy we all now ask) her attempt to drown Lauren Ben may not realise how close he is to a wood chipper, he needs to consult Flatboy on that one.
:eek: http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/afraid/smileys-afraid-990255.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/) http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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storyseeker1
19-02-2016, 09:14
I feel after Abies attack on Lucy (whos Lucy we all now ask) her attempt to drown Lauren Ben may not realise how close he is to a wood chipper, he needs to consult Flatboy on that one.
Well, we already knew she was a loose cannon (though frankly I think she's missing the whole bolts and screws, and forgotten the cannonball). I think Ben was just desperate to be with any girl who would take him, just so that he could prove to his dad that he weren't gay. I just hope to God they're not gonna drag this on for months. We're already pulling our hair out with Bobby. We don't need it with Ben and Abi, too!
Refresh my memory; what happened between Abi and Fatboy? I know she didn't have anything to do with Fatboy's murder.
Rear window
19-02-2016, 10:19
Well, we already knew she was a loose cannon (though frankly I think she's missing the whole bolts and screws, and forgotten the cannonball). I think Ben was just desperate to be with any girl who would take him, just so that he could prove to his dad that he weren't gay. I just hope to God they're not gonna drag this on for months. We're already pulling our hair out with Bobby. We don't need it with Ben and Abi, too!
It's all very tangled and going to get worse.
Donna was spot on though with Babe's smarminess.
Rear window
19-02-2016, 10:19
Well, we already knew she was a loose cannon (though frankly I think she's missing the whole bolts and screws, and forgotten the cannonball). I think Ben was just desperate to be with any girl who would take him, just so that he could prove to his dad that he weren't gay. I just hope to God they're not gonna drag this on for months. We're already pulling our hair out with Bobby. We don't need it with Ben and Abi, too!
It's all very tangled and going to get worse.
Donna was spot on though with Babe's smarminess.
Refresh my memory; what happened between Abi and Fatboy? I know she didn't have anything to do with Fatboy's murder.
Its just that if you niff off an insane lady in EE watch out for industrial machines, it was meant to be Vincent last time in the crusher but ended up being FLatboy.
Refresh my memory; what happened between Abi and Fatboy? I know she didn't have anything to do with Fatboy's murder.
Its just that if you niff off an insane lady in EE watch out for industrial machines, it was meant to be Vincent last time in the crusher but ended up being FLatboy.
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