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how did drunk max get in to see phil in prison so fast
Didnt you know that Beetroot man has all the Met Police, Judiciary and HM Prison service in his pocket. He is the Mr Big of London Crime.
hmmm Linda, I don't think it is over ......
so massod has a granddaughter from shabham
flappinfanny
29-01-2015, 23:24
kim was great as dame shirl. tina was rather good as well.
the scenes with shab's and stace were very good, kellie bright and danny dyer put in another stonking performance. :)
tammyy2j
30-01-2015, 14:49
Kim has a great voice, did very well as Dame Shirley
tammyy2j
30-01-2015, 20:33
OMG Dean is Shabham's baby's father, what a surprising well kept hidden twist
Sorry, did I just tune into Hollyoaks by accident?
tammyy2j
30-01-2015, 21:00
Sorry, did I just tune into Hollyoaks by accident?
:p
No it was EE
I guess Dean having this kid means he isn't Linda's baby's real father hopefully and explains why Dean will be staying around
I don't think Dean raped Shabham, she said he was messed up as his dad died so he was drunk I think
tammyy2j
30-01-2015, 21:00
Linda can expect everyone on the square to know and be talking now
dean spiked stacey's drink could have done same to shabham
maidmarian
31-01-2015, 00:04
dean spiked stacey's drink could have done same to shabham
agreed.
also thought term " serial rapist " had been
mentioned somewhere in storyline?
but I dont see Dean staying and now having
child - constitutes the "justice " we were
promised
maidmarian
31-01-2015, 00:04
dupl
I don't think Dean raped Shabham, she said he was messed up as his dad died so he was drunk I think
I think Dean may have raped Shabnam but she doesn't realise it at the moment.
My reasons for thinking this:-
1. It all ties in with Linda's rape plot and Dean (hopefully) getting his comeuppance. He's obviously not going to get justice on Linda's word alone.
2. Shabnam was a party girl but she was still a Muslim and a virgin so I find it highly unlikely that she'd have consented to losing her virginity during a casual encounter in a club toilet of all places, drunk or not.
3. We know that Dean has a history of spiking drinks - he did it to Stacey for a "laugh" many years ago.
4. She said Dean's forgotten the encounter. Again highly unlikely! It's more probable in my opinion that he blanked Shabnam afterwards because he was pretending to her that it never happened (the same way he pretended to Linda afterwards that it was a one night stand).
5. Shabnam felt bad enough about the whole thing that she left her daughter on a doorstep. I don't think that was down to fearing her family's reaction alone. She's a strong character and she obviously cared for the baby. This speaks to me of trauma, even if Shabnam herself doesn't yet recognise it as such.
...I dont see Dean staying and now having
child - constitutes the "justice " we were
promised
More than one victim's word might get a conviction.
parkerman
31-01-2015, 21:20
That might all be true, Dazzle, but how is this going to come out? How can they prove some six years later that Dean spiked Shabnam's drink and/or raped her? If the fact that Linda didn't report the rape for a few months goes against her, surely waiting six years is far too long, especially as Shabnam doesn't know if he raped her or not.
shabham said she used sneak out to clubs and drink with carly and dawn they could be called back to give evidence
That might all be true, Dazzle, but how is this going to come out? How can they prove some six years later that Dean spiked Shabnam's drink and/or raped her? If the fact that Linda didn't report the rape for a few months goes against her, surely waiting six years is far too long, especially as Shabnam doesn't know if he raped her or not.
If my theory's correct I suspect Stacey (who looked very dubious about the whole thing) will make Shabnam see that she acted out of character and wasn't in a fit state to consent to the sex. If she were to go to the police, trained officers might be able to ascertain this too through carefully taking her through events. Then, as Lizann says, there may be other witnesses.
I don't know...I just think a pattern emerging may help get a conviction somehow.
I was also struck with the thought that Shabnam might kill Dean when she realises what he did and that the trauma caused by his actions made her to abandon the baby. We've been told recently that Dean's comeuppance will be shocking.
Alternatively, this theory could be total cr*p of course! :D
maidmarian
31-01-2015, 22:32
I think your theory is very good and I hope
that it happens as u say or in a very similar
way.
The only prob is it has been said that there
will be justice but not of the legal kind.
I know I had read abt " serial rapist" in
the publicity so I hope Shabnam does realise
that her current recollections may not be
the truth and its good she has a friendship
with Stacey.You probably have read an
interview with the actress who plays
Shabnam that was posted today in Shabnam
Masood thread and it sounds as tho after
talking to Stacey - she starts to reassess things.
I hope so both to help justice along and
because of her potential relationship with Kush.
maidmarian
31-01-2015, 22:32
dupl
Ruffed_lemur
01-02-2015, 13:21
That might all be true, Dazzle, but how is this going to come out? How can they prove some six years later that Dean spiked Shabnam's drink and/or raped her? If the fact that Linda didn't report the rape for a few months goes against her, surely waiting six years is far too long, especially as Shabnam doesn't know if he raped her or not.
Good points. I didn't get the impression he'd raped Shabnam. In any case, I thought Dean's comeuppance was down to a confrontation with Mick?
flappinfanny
01-02-2015, 17:39
a good episode with the carter scenes. all the carter clan were good. the only down side was the duff duff.
tammyy2j
01-02-2015, 19:45
I don't think Dean raped Shabham
While Dazzle has made some good points above, the old Shabham was never devout in her religion practice as the new one is and she said how her family disowned Syed over his money problems and also then over his sexual preference so I assume Shabham knew they would to her too also
I think Shabham seeing Dean with Stacey and Lily has made her now think more about their daughter Roya
I would like to see Carly back does she know about Mick did Shirley or Dean tell her?
tammyy2j
01-02-2015, 19:45
Does Kush have kid(s) too, I remember him saying his wife or girlfriend died
I don't think Dean raped Shabham
I hope we find out one way or another in Monday's episode.
tammyy2j
01-02-2015, 20:49
I hope we find out one way or another in Monday's episode.
Yes I hope so too
Sometimes EE reveal too many plots at once that interact but are rushed not make sense contradicting previous storylines
What was Jane thinking when she got that wedding outfit :eek:
tammyy2j
02-02-2015, 20:34
What was Jane thinking when she got that wedding outfit :eek:
Or picking Sonia as her bridesmaid surely Tanya returning would mean her for the job
Did Dean confess to Shirley, I think after her chat with Stacey she knows he is guilty
I think he did admit it to Shirley in his own way ... sure she sent Lola away because she is now realising that Deano is guilty
tammyy2j
02-02-2015, 21:10
I think he did admit it to Shirley in his own way ... sure she sent Lola away because she is now realising that Deano is guilty
Yes sending Lola away for her safety from Dean, Shirley knows deep down he is guilty
I was expecting Stacey to ask Shabham are you sure he didn't spike your drink or rape her so I think Shabham's toilet quickie with drunk Dean was consensual unless more is to come out
Good to see Sharon also stick up for her mate Linda and believe her, I am liking this Sharon
What was Jane thinking when she got that wedding outfit :eek:
borrowed from dot :p
What was Jane thinking when she got that wedding outfit :eek:
borrowed from dot :p
flappinfanny
02-02-2015, 23:13
a good start to the week. i think shirley is starting to believe dean did rape linda. nice scenes with sonia and jane. had to smile at the pauline reference. i hope jane's mum does come to the wedding. i loved linda baron in this role. i hear mr hardy sent twitter into melt down. :wub:
xx_Dan_xx
02-02-2015, 23:16
Yes sending Lola away for her safety from Dean, Shirley knows deep down he is guilty
I was expecting Stacey to ask Shabham are you sure he didn't spike your drink or rape her so I think Shabham's toilet quickie with drunk Dean was consensual unless more is to come out
Good to see Sharon also stick up for her mate Linda and believe her, I am liking this Sharon
The thing I am suspicious of is why they'd say it was Dean if nothing more happened. It could of been anyone incuding non-show characters. The fact its Dean suggests more happened, not necassarily rape, but something that could perhaps have more for the storyline to cover.
xx_Dan_xx
02-02-2015, 23:16
Yes sending Lola away for her safety from Dean, Shirley knows deep down he is guilty
I was expecting Stacey to ask Shabham are you sure he didn't spike your drink or rape her so I think Shabham's toilet quickie with drunk Dean was consensual unless more is to come out
Good to see Sharon also stick up for her mate Linda and believe her, I am liking this Sharon
The thing I am suspicious of is why they'd say it was Dean if nothing more happened. It could of been anyone incuding non-show characters. The fact its Dean suggests more happened, not necassarily rape, but something that could perhaps have more for the storyline to cover.
a strict devout muslim virgin sleeping with dean who will believe that
parkerman
02-02-2015, 23:22
a strict devout muslim virgin sleeping with dean who will believe that
She wasn't a strict devout Muslim then.
She wasn't a strict devout Muslim then.
true but was a virgin
She wasn't a strict devout Muslim then.
true but was a virgin
The thing I am suspicious of is why they'd say it was Dean if nothing more happened. It could of been anyone incuding non-show characters. The fact its Dean suggests more happened, not necassarily rape, but something that could perhaps have more for the storyline to cover.
Because it seems involving a member of the Carters is a pre-requisite for every storyline these days.
parkerman
03-02-2015, 00:16
true but was a virgin
It's gotta happen some time....
maidmarian
03-02-2015, 02:05
It's gotta happen some time....
yes - but it would better if even slightly
sober and with not such a slimy article.!
also pub toilets seem to be favourite
venue forEE -but there are other places!
still probably more will be revealed!!
maidmarian
03-02-2015, 02:05
It's gotta happen some time....
yes - but it would better if even slightly
sober and with not such a slimy article.!
also pub toilets seem to be favourite
venue forEE -but there are other places!
still probably more will be revealed!!
I was expecting Stacey to ask Shabham are you sure he didn't spike your drink or rape her so I think Shabham's toilet quickie with drunk Dean was consensual unless more is to come out
Definitely more to come. Shabnam refused to talk about it, which wouldn't have been the case if all had been revealed.
The thing I am suspicious of is why they'd say it was Dean if nothing more happened. It could of been anyone incuding non-show characters. The fact its Dean suggests more happened, not necassarily rape, but something that could perhaps have more for the storyline to cover.
Yes, I'm sure you're right that even if Dean didn't rape Shabnam the timing of the reveal during the same episode that Dean was gloating to the whole pub that Linda was lying was too coincidental. There's definitely a connection (more than just that both stories involve Dean). I like Lizann's idea in the Deano thread that he'll be convicted for raping Shabnam even if he's innocent of it. That would be karma.
She wasn't a strict devout Muslim then.
She was enough of a Muslim to still be a virgin so I think it still held some importance to her. I'm sure her friends weren't virgins at her age.
parkerman
03-02-2015, 10:08
Definitely more to come. Shabnam refused to talk about it, which wouldn't have been the case if all had been revealed.
Yes, I'm sure you're right that even if Dean didn't rape Shabnam the timing of the reveal during the same episode that Dean was gloating to the whole pub that Linda was lying was too coincidental. There's definitely a connection (more than just that both stories involve Dean). I like Lizann's idea in the Deano thread that he'll be convicted for raping Shabnam even if he's innocent of it. That would be karma.
She was enough of a Muslim to still be a virgin so I think it still held some importance to her. I'm sure her friends weren't virgins at her age.
Oh yes, I'm absolutely certain that Shabnam's "confession" will play a key role in the Dean rape story. Why else would it come out now?
tammyy2j
03-02-2015, 20:22
Shirley telling Mick she is getting rid of Dean by getting him a ticket away, so she does believe he raped Linda
Kush carrying Mas was funny
tammyy2j
03-02-2015, 20:22
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Shabnam wasn't a virgin when she slept with Dean she told Stacey that she'd had one night stands before during their chat
maidmarian
03-02-2015, 22:45
Shabnam wasn't a virgin when she slept with Dean she told Stacey that she'd had one night stands before during their chat
I must have missed that bit. But the actress has
said in an interview that when Stacey questions
her - she wants to shut her down.
Its quite a normal response when someone wants
more info on a subject you wish you hadnt
mentioned/are still coming to terms with to say
something to deflect them to give you chance to
think .Its a sort if self-protection mechanism .
People may want to help but dont all do it in
the right way and a lot of questions isnt often
helpful. Can pile pressure on.
What ever the circumstances of the babys
conception and in the following years to Shabnam
- she has a lot of things to resolve in her own
mind first and she may be in denial to some extent.
Various theories have been expressed but most
people think there is some reason for Dean to
have been involved apart from obvious ones.
As we find out more - some of what we have
learned so far may not be entirely true.
maidmarian
03-02-2015, 22:45
dupl
flappinfanny
03-02-2015, 23:20
I would love Mick to bury Dean O alive like Tanya and Jack did with Max. Tina is so much better without Tosh, I am really warming to her now. Timothy West is just brilliant in every scene.
Stan's showing his true colours at the moment. I have every sympathy with people wanting to end their lives when dying and in pain, but to involve their whole family, especially the vulnerable Tina and his grandchildren, is really out of order. He's perfectly physically capable of doing it himself at the moment. If there's really no other way, surely Shirley would be the best person to turn to.
At least Shirley's no longer under any illusion that Dean's lying about the rape. She should be encouraging him to hand himself into the police not running away where he'll pose a threat to other women. :angry:
I'm fully expecting Dean to die now that Mick's threatened his life (to a police officer no less). If it happens it won't be at Mick's hands though.
Shabnam wasn't a virgin when she slept with Dean she told Stacey that she'd had one night stands before during their chat
During the conversation when Shabnam's story of the baby was revealed, she and Stacey were talking about her one night stand with Kush. Stacey says "Like I said it's just one bloke, it's not like you've ever done it before", to which Shabman replies "What if I have done it before?". A bit later in the scene Shabman shows Stacey the newspaper clipping about the doorstep baby and says "That was the first time".
I don't see how this can be interpreted any other way than as Shabnam being a virgin when she had sex with Dean.
Here's the video of that scene (start at about 16:50):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRum1krkGXs
maidmarian
04-02-2015, 01:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRum1krkGXs[/video]
Im.glad u spotted that. I was surprised if Id
missed a statement to the opposite effect
but phone did ring.nuisance call and my
attention.was diverted!!
maidmarian
04-02-2015, 01:54
dupl
parkerman
04-02-2015, 09:21
Stan's showing his true colours at the moment. I have every sympathy with people wanting to end their lives when dying and in pain, but to involve their whole family, especially the vulnerable Tina and his grandchildren, is really out of order. He's perfectly physically capable of doing it himself at the moment.
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Exactly, Dazzle. That's what I can't understand. At the moment he is fit enough to do it himself. He doesn't need anybody's help. Help to do what exactly?
tammyy2j
04-02-2015, 13:36
Shabnam wasn't a virgin when she slept with Dean she told Stacey that she'd had one night stands before during their chat
I thought she claimed she had a 1 one night stand before Kush which was with Dean so I assumed she was a virgin before Dean
Should have read the spoilers, didn't realise it was The Carter Show today.
Shabnam was a virgin before Dean. Stacey asked her if that was her first time and she said yes.
is that it for mick and dean, that was pretty pathetic if that is the justice
when shabham was with kush outside i was expecting dean to show up passing by going to the vic or home
is that it for mick and dean, that was pretty pathetic if that is the justice
when shabham was with kush outside i was expecting dean to show up passing by going to the vic or home
is that it for mick and dean, that was pretty pathetic if that is the justice
when shabham was with kush outside i was expecting dean to show up passing by going to the vic or home
Has to be more to come re.Dean. Glad Mick stepped in to stop the overdose. Why is Stan incapable of making up his own lethal mixture if that's what he wants to do? If the pain is unbearable for him, surely the hospital would provide palliative care ?
Ruffed_lemur
05-02-2015, 21:51
Has to be more to come re.Dean. Glad Mick stepped in to stop the overdose. Why is Stan incapable of making up his own lethal mixture if that's what he wants to do? If the pain is unbearable for him, surely the hospital would provide palliative care ?
I agree about Stan, and wish Tina or someone else would tell him that they could go to jail if they helped him!
tammyy2j
05-02-2015, 21:58
Finally Shabs and Kush got together that was sweet
flappinfanny
06-02-2015, 00:09
Finally kush and shabs are together. rakhee thakrar is rather good in this role and is superb at both comedy and dramatic scenes and lights the screen up.
Also Tina (luisa bradshaw-white) is playing a blinder.
Anyone know what Emma's note means? From what I can make out it says something along the lines of:
18th April
Missing hours
22:00-08:00
0207 946
800* 0221
Doesn't add up
Why?
The missing hours probably refer to Lucy (or alternatively Emma's suspect) but what could those numbers mean? Lauren seemed to twig the meaning straight away.
(* The 800 might be 80C but I think it's more likely to be purely numbers like the others.)
is that it for mick and dean, that was pretty pathetic if that is the justice
Definitely not the end of Dean. The conclusion will be explosive and rock the square... (sorry to steal your line Parkerman :D)
Glad Mick stepped in to stop the overdose. Why is Stan incapable of making up his own lethal mixture if that's what he wants to do? If the pain is unbearable for him, surely the hospital would provide palliative care ?
The way he's emotionally blackmailing the vulnerable Tina is despicable. I've seen criticism of Mick's violent reaction on social media but how the hell else was he supposed to react? Stan's recent behaviour would push anyone to their limit, dying or not, and it's not as if he hurt Stan. I wouldn't be surprised if Stan's not quite in the agony he's making out either.
xx_Dan_xx
06-02-2015, 01:48
Anyone know what Emma's note means? From what I can make out it says something along the lines of:
18th April
Missing hours
22:00-08:00
0207 946
800* 0221
Doesn't add up
Why?
At the top of my head, I am thinking a phone number but there are too many numbers. There is also more info on the page that is offscreen, you can barely see the start of it at the bottom. I'd imagine EE wouldnt give us anything that makes us solve it but I don't know.
xx_Dan_xx
06-02-2015, 01:48
Anyone know what Emma's note means? From what I can make out it says something along the lines of:
18th April
Missing hours
22:00-08:00
0207 946
800* 0221
Doesn't add up
Why?
I believe the numbers corrospond to a phone number and the time. The "0221" being the time. London's area code is 020 I believe so I further think its a land line call.
I believe the numbers corrospond to a phone number and the time. The "0221" being the time. London's area code is 020 I believe so I further think its a land line call.
That makes sense. Maybe Lauren recognised the number and understood what Emma was getting at.
xx_Dan_xx
06-02-2015, 01:59
That makes sense. Maybe Lauren recognised the number and understood what Emma was getting at.
The thing is I think its 80c just because she wrote 0 very clearly everytime elsewhere on the page. Or SOC from what others have said which apparently means Scene of Crime but... Im totally confused
Of course, simply a number and time doesn't prove murder. Why is Lauren even sure that is what it means...
xx_Dan_xx
06-02-2015, 01:59
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The thing is I think its 80c just because she wrote 0 very clearly everytime elsewhere on the page. Or SOC from what others have said which apparently means Scene of Crime but... Im totally confused
I'm sure it was an 8 and not an S as I paused and looked at it very carefully. The 80C was obviously written that way deliberately by the EE team. To confuse and mislead us perhaps?
Here's (http://s6.postimg.org/exnue8xo1/image.jpg) a screenshot someone kindly put up on another site. The 8 isn't that clear but it looks more like an 8 than an S to me.
At the top of my head, I am thinking a phone number but there are too many numbers. There is also more info on the page that is offscreen, you can barely see the start of it at the bottom. I'd imagine EE wouldnt give us anything that makes us solve it but I don't know.
yes phone number also i thought one lauren knows well so peter or abi
At the top of my head, I am thinking a phone number but there are too many numbers. There is also more info on the page that is offscreen, you can barely see the start of it at the bottom. I'd imagine EE wouldnt give us anything that makes us solve it but I don't know.
yes phone number also i thought one lauren knows well so peter or abi
parkerman
06-02-2015, 08:06
80C = 8 o clock?
Here's (http://s6.postimg.org/exnue8xo1/image.jpg) a screenshot someone kindly put up on another site. The 8 isn't that clear but it looks more like an 8 than an S to me.
what if it is read: 0207 946 0221 as the London/Walford phone number which Lauren recognises? (hers? Peters house?)
and 8 OC as 8 o'clock?
xx_Dan_xx
06-02-2015, 11:36
what if it is read: 0207 946 0221 as the London/Walford phone number which Lauren recognises? (hers? Peters house?)
and 8 OC as 8 o'clock?
Maybe, it has to be a landline call anyway.
What I dont like that is going to start happening is that before the reveal, Lauren will pretty much hate everyone on the square because EE cant give us the identity of the killer. Just like Emma who was cold with everyone.
xx_Dan_xx
06-02-2015, 11:36
what if it is read: 0207 946 0221 as the London/Walford phone number which Lauren recognises? (hers? Peters house?)
and 8 OC as 8 o'clock?
Maybe, it has to be a landline call anyway.
What I dont like that is going to start happening is that before the reveal, Lauren will pretty much hate everyone on the square because EE cant give us the identity of the killer. Just like Emma who was cold with everyone.
so a call to or from that number at 8 o'clock, which caused Lucy to go out towards the flats?
but then how did she die at home?
xx_Dan_xx
06-02-2015, 12:42
so a call to or from that number at 8 o'clock, which caused Lucy to go out towards the flats?
but then how did she die at home?
Her dieing at home, at the moment, is just spectulation.
xx_Dan_xx
06-02-2015, 12:42
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Her dieing at home, at the moment, is just spectulation.
yes I'm just thinking out loud re the music box etc.....
tammyy2j
06-02-2015, 15:50
Peter was getting Lucy drugs the night she died could be connected to that
xx_Dan_xx
09-02-2015, 20:32
More convinced it said SOC rather than 80c on that letter now.
0207 946
SOC 0221
My Theory:
SOC = Scene Of Crime
0221 = 2:21 Time of death
0207 946 Will give some form of identification of who the killer is or atleast narrow it down
Makes sense as why would Lauren assume the phone number is the number of the killer. Nothing suggests it unless there is more info like SOC, scene of crime.
looks like lauren thinks it is peter and idiot for drinking again it will kill her
xx_Dan_xx
09-02-2015, 21:42
Ranges for fictitious telephone numbers are common in most telephone numbering plans. One of the main reasons these ranges exist is to avoid accidentally using real phone numbers in movies and television programs because viewers frequently call the numbers used.
London uses 020 7946 0xxx
So guess that does make it a phone number:
0207 946
SOC 0221
0207946 0221 would fit that pattern if the 80C/800/SOC is not part of it. So confusing but I think the number is
0207 946 0221
xx_Dan_xx
09-02-2015, 21:42
Ranges for fictitious telephone numbers are common in most telephone numbering plans. One of the main reasons these ranges exist is to avoid accidentally using real phone numbers in movies and television programs because viewers frequently call the numbers used.
London uses 020 7946 0xxx
So guess that does make it a phone number:
0207 946
SOC 0221
0207946 0221 would fit that pattern if the 80C/800/SOC is not part of it. So confusing but I think the number is
0207 946 0221
stop dan you are thinking it too much stop with the numbers :p
xx_Dan_xx
09-02-2015, 21:51
stop dan you are thinking it too much stop with the numbers :p
The 19th will be a relief. I am cursed with no patience.
xx_Dan_xx
09-02-2015, 21:51
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flappinfanny
09-02-2015, 23:18
i hope peter is not the murderer, my money is still on abi. shifty or what. loved jessie wallace tonight. she is great at playing the dirty girl. she was brilliant coming out of the vic and walking through the empty market. even alfie seemed more bearable tonight. he has good chemistry with ian. that works well. so lauren is back on the sauce. i suppose she will go back into rehab?
parkerman
10-02-2015, 00:01
It's easy Dan. Think of a number, double it, take the square root of Whitney's birthday add it to the number of days in a week Eastenders is on, divide by the number of children Max Branning has then multiply by the Beales, halve it and that's your killer.
More convinced it said SOC rather than 80c on that letter now.
I agree, it looked more like SOC in the shot we saw today.
So who does Lauren suspect, Peter or Ian? I thought she was casting suspicious glances at both of them. Maybe she thinks they're both in on it (something I haven't seen anyone consider so far). Does her obvious distress at whatever it is she thinks she's discovered mean we can rule her out as a suspect?
I guess it was the mention of Uncle Harry that sent Kat into a tailspin. At least the writing for the character's consistent.
how can kat afford to get bladdered in the pub
looks like lauren thinks it is peter and idiot for drinking again it will kill her
I don't think she suspects Peter, I think it is either Max or Abi and Lauren is avoiding Peter so she doesn't have to tell him what she knows...
I thought it was more like SOC last night than 8OC?
but I think the number 0207-946-0221 is peters house, which is why Lauren wobbled over marrying him - so I am now in the Jane-camp!!!
xx_Dan_xx
10-02-2015, 12:14
It's easy Dan. Think of a number, double it, take the square root of Whitney's birthday add it to the number of days in a week Eastenders is on, divide by the number of children Max Branning has then multiply by the Beales, halve it and that's your killer.
Hmm I got 12, omg, its Peter!
tammyy2j
10-02-2015, 14:20
how can kat afford to get bladdered in the pub
No matter how broke anyone in a soap is, they can always afford the pub :p
tammyy2j
10-02-2015, 14:20
Where is Phil gone?
I don't think she suspects Peter, I think it is either Max or Abi and Lauren is avoiding Peter so she doesn't have to tell him what she knows...
I hadn't thought of it like that. This would explain why she was off with both Peter and Ian.
xx_Dan_xx
10-02-2015, 19:59
Well... Charlie has just messed up his marriage if Ronnie ever comes back.
so very predictable with roxy and charlie, stacey is everyone's go to girl and did lauren wash her hand and test before handing it over
flappinfanny
10-02-2015, 23:07
Setting the seeds nicely for the anniversary episodes. Lauren pregnant. Not another pregnancy. The only down side for me with tonight's offering was having Charlie and Roxy kissing. Did we have to go down that path? June Brown was excellent.
parkerman
10-02-2015, 23:14
I agree. I felt Charlie/Roxy kissing was very poor and lazy writing, given the high standard of everything else going on at the moment
Yet another pregnancy plot and Roxy cheating on her sister with her bloke. It's Santer all over again. Now all we need is ANOTHER pregnancy plot.
Had we not had a ridiculous number of pregnancies already, I'd approve of this one. Potentially a valuable future character with those ties, especially as Peter is leaving.
Cindy's and Linda's add nothing in my opinion - Mick and Linda already have three kids and Beth is not a Beale. They should have made Liam the father. I can't see the point of Kim's either. I just can't see her as a mother. Don't get me started on how morally wrong Ronnie's was.
cindy and beth are on a long vacation upstairs in the beale house
I don't get why we keep getting pregnancy plots in soaps either. Kids in soaps are frankly boring and a nuisance, yet the writers keep them coming (and all soaps are guilty of it).
I hope this kiss between Charlie and Roxy doesn't go any further. I can just about understand a kiss in very stressful circumstances, especially as they both seem to have accepted that Ronnie's gone, but a full blown affair will not be my idea of entertaining viewing.
I got the impression that they did not stop at kissing .... which might mean another child on Albert Square :p
parkerman
12-02-2015, 09:45
I got the impression that they did not stop at kissing .... which might mean another child on Albert Square :p
No-one ever does stop at just kissing on the Square!
xx_Dan_xx
12-02-2015, 20:07
Felt the death of the original EE villian was a bit weak. On Dot's behalf I suppose it makes sense as she'll obviously feel like its her fault and thats something she may or may not get over and her son will always cause her grief even after death. On Nick's behalf it was weak.
roxy never learns and that was a terrible exit for nick
Ruffed_lemur
12-02-2015, 21:46
Felt the death of the original EE villian was a bit weak. On Dot's behalf I suppose it makes sense as she'll obviously feel like its her fault and thats something she may or may not get over and her son will always cause her grief even after death. On Nick's behalf it was weak.
I don't think Nick's gone yet.
xx_Dan_xx
12-02-2015, 22:26
I don't think Nick's gone yet.
I think he is. We know Dot goes to the police and hands herself in because she says she killed Nick. She doesn't have it in her to kill and is very frail. Her words she spoke to him about how she hopes he chokes on the drugs will rake guilt on her leading her to go to the police I think.
xx_Dan_xx
12-02-2015, 22:26
I don't think Nick's gone yet.
I think he is. We know Dot goes to the police and hands herself in because she says she killed Nick. She doesn't have it in her to kill and is very frail. Her words she spoke to him about how she hopes he chokes on the drugs will rake guilt on her leading her to go to the police I think.
flappinfanny
12-02-2015, 23:41
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flappinfanny
12-02-2015, 23:44
It was grim for EastEnders tonight, almost Victorian. Saying that I did enjoy it, for all its grit, there were some funny one liners from Kat about the wee and with Max and Ian's weddings. Laugh out loud funny. Glad they are turning Donna into a character now.
flappinfanny
12-02-2015, 23:46
I don't think Nick's gone yet.
no nor do i.
Is Nick dead? I just couldn't tell from that last shot, although Dot obviously thought he was dead (or at least in a coma). I suppose given that she wished him dead the last time she saw him, he must be a goner according to soap law. :D
Assuming Nick's dead then Dot did kill him after all - in her eyes anyway. :eek:
Then again, given what Nick said about hoping that Ronnie's aware of what's going on while being in a coma, it would be karma indeed if he ends up in a coma from which he never awakens (especially if the writers can somehow get it across to us that he's actually aware of what's going on but totally helpless).
The secret of Lucy's death is so tantalisingly close to being revealed!!! :cheer:
Glad they are turning Donna into a character now.
I agree. I've always thought Donna had potential and it's good to see her being used more.
EastendChick91
13-02-2015, 13:06
:ninja: When its bad EastEnders is appalling :ninja:
I can't believe the producer/directors actually looked at that and thought "Hey thats great TV!" :rolleyes:
I hate Nick. Not cos he's a baddie but because he is just so bloody awful. Badly acted panto.
This was worse than the fairground episodes. Nick holding all those people hostage with a chair leg :lol: Max, Phil etc standing around like muppets, unable to break down an old wooden door :lol:
:lol:
I totally agree with Florijo
Ruffed_lemur
13-02-2015, 13:22
I think he is. We know Dot goes to the police and hands herself in because she says she killed Nick. She doesn't have it in her to kill and is very frail. Her words she spoke to him about how she hopes he chokes on the drugs will rake guilt on her leading her to go to the police I think.
Well we'll see today, if they show us.
EastendChick91
13-02-2015, 13:24
I read last night about something intriguing. The spoiler said that she would kill after they had both resolved some issues between them both.... They've not resolved anything have they? So maybe he was just out cold from the drugs??
Ruffed_lemur
13-02-2015, 13:26
I read last night about something intriguing. The spoiler said that she would kill after they had both resolved some issues between them both.... They've not resolved anything have they? So maybe he was just out cold from the drugs??
I think so. Hope we see Nick talk to his Ma again.
I think Dot might speak to Nick today ... but for a last time ... not sure she gives him an overdose or he dies because of his drug abuse as she might have got bad drugs for him ... she sure will have problems dealing with the situation, poor Dot :(
EastendChick91
13-02-2015, 15:06
If it is to do with the drugs, Dot is going to feel just as bad as last time, but this will be a accident i think. (Ethel) Still emotional for her. But he deserves it!
tammyy2j
13-02-2015, 15:27
I got the impression that they did not stop at kissing .... which might mean another child on Albert Square :p
You were right
I hope Nick isn't dead
I don't think Nick's dead yet.
Apparently He confesses to Dot that he killed Reg Cox.
xx_Dan_xx
13-02-2015, 16:32
I don't think Nick's dead yet.
Apparently He confesses to Dot that he killed Reg Cox.
I thought that was already common knowledge?
xx_Dan_xx
13-02-2015, 16:32
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tammyy2j
13-02-2015, 17:02
I thought that was already common knowledge?
Yes I thought Dot knew too
parkerman
13-02-2015, 19:16
From Wiki: "The debut episode of EastEnders began with the discovery of elderly resident Reg Cox's dead body, following his murder by Nick....After a few weeks of the police investigation, prime suspect Nick left the Square, and in April it was reported that he had been arrested. After Nick's mother, Dot, was introduced to the cast in July, she informed the audience that Nick had managed to get off on probation, and later in the year, he returned to Albert Square. The mystery of Reg's murder was not finally solved until 1988 when Nick confessed to Den Watts in Dickens Hill prison that he had been responsible."
reg's ghost back to haunt nick tonight
really building jane up as lucy's killer
xx_Dan_xx
13-02-2015, 20:40
really building jane up as lucy's killer
I know, the way Lauren looked at Jane when she said she had a confession.
But knowing EE, it probably means nothing and is messing us around. Lauren acting dodgy with everyone.
xx_Dan_xx
13-02-2015, 20:40
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Ruffed_lemur
13-02-2015, 20:43
Good exit for Nick I thought.
tammyy2j
13-02-2015, 23:36
I know, the way Lauren looked at Jane when she said she had a confession.
But knowing EE, it probably means nothing and is messing us around. Lauren acting dodgy with everyone.
I think the killer is from the Beale family and house with how Lauren is behaving but Jane is being pushed too hard so obviously not her
Didn't Abi already have a wedding gift card and present for Jane and Ian but Lauren was writing another one yes?
Dot didn't kill Nick but it was a fitting exit death for him
John and June played their parts very well
Why wasn't the likes of Billy, Lola, Mick and Alfie not at Ian's house for the pre wedding dinner "party"
Ruffed_lemur
14-02-2015, 13:17
I think the killer is from the Beale family and house with how Lauren is behaving but Jane is being pushed too hard so obviously not her
Didn't Abi already have a wedding gift card and present for Jane and Ian but Lauren was writing another one yes?
Dot didn't kill Nick but it was a fitting exit death for him
John and June played their parts very well
Why wasn't the likes of Billy, Lola, Mick and Alfie not at Ian's house for the pre wedding dinner "party"
I'm beginning to think it's Abi. Lauren turned away when she came in holding Cindy's baby.
Excellent scenes between Dot and Nick. I must admit to feeling sad he's gone for good at last. He deserved to die but I'm slightly in mourning that we'll never see Nasty Nick again.
Dot is likely to be haunted by guilt at the part she played, although no one could blame her. :(
I hope Mick's apparent forgiveness of Shirley was just for show. She didn't even apologise for the vile way she's treated Linda recently. We can all understand why she believed Dean over Linda, but her behaviour has been downright callous to Linda and her family. Mick should at the very least insist that Shirley crawl over hot coals on her hands and knees and lengthily plead for Linda's forgiveness (and it be granted) before he he even considers relenting. :angry:
I'm beginning to think it's Abi. Lauren turned away when she came in holding Cindy's baby.
that could be as she is up the duff herself
I'm beginning to think it's Abi. Lauren turned away when she came in holding Cindy's baby.
that could be as she is up the duff herself
xx_Dan_xx
14-02-2015, 17:11
Excellent scenes between Dot and Nick. I must admit to feeling sad he's gone for good at last. He deserved to die but I'm slightly in mourning that we'll never see Nasty Nick again.
Dot is likely to be haunted by guilt at the part she played, although no one could blame her. :(
I hope Mick's apparent forgiveness of Shirley was just for show. She didn't even apologise for the vile way she's treated Linda recently. We can all understand why she believed Dean over Linda, but her behaviour has been downright callous to Linda and her family. Mick should at the very least insist that Shirley crawl over hot coals on her hands and knees and lengthily plead for Linda's forgiveness (and it be granted) before he he even considers relenting. :angry:
Since Dean is to come back during live week for revenge, perhaps its because he sees Shirley and Mick getting along very well and he is jealous and begins to think Shirley never believed in him.
xx_Dan_xx
14-02-2015, 17:11
I think the killer is from the Beale family and house with how Lauren is behaving but Jane is being pushed too hard so obviously not her
Didn't Abi already have a wedding gift card and present for Jane and Ian but Lauren was writing another one yes?
Dot didn't kill Nick but it was a fitting exit death for him
John and June played their parts very well
Why wasn't the likes of Billy, Lola, Mick and Alfie not at Ian's house for the pre wedding dinner "party"
The pickle I have with Lauren writing the card confessing what she knows is, obviously Ian or Jane opens the card. She has no idea who and only one person is the murderer. So.... why would Lauren write a card confessing what she knows if she thinks the killer will read it first.
parkerman
14-02-2015, 17:11
That was what I thought was the reason, lizann.
maidmarian
14-02-2015, 18:02
that could be as she is up the duff herself
Im just waiting for the storyline that will
really"rock the Square" ...
A planned pregnancy!!
flappinfanny
14-02-2015, 18:09
really building jane up as lucy's killer
is that a red herring?
flappinfanny
14-02-2015, 18:13
a good ending, june and john were excellent, you can tell the chemistry they have had working together all those years. poor dot. The only thing i would say is, it would have been nice to end the episode with no duff duff, fade out to a black screen, roll the credits with the background noise and no theme tune.
Bit concerned about the wedding card scene being televised well before the big reveal next week. Wonder if Lauren has misunderstood Emma's interpretation ?
nick got no credits julia theme
Im just waiting for the storyline that will
really"rock the Square" ...
A planned pregnancy!!
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Now that I'd like to see! :D
Wonder if Lauren has misunderstood Emma's interpretation ?
Yes, that's something people aren't really considering. Lauren might be wrong.
xx_Dan_xx
14-02-2015, 22:29
Yes, that's something people aren't really considering. Lauren might be wrong.
True. Although she is trying to get into Emma's phone and will know who it is either way.
I still can't believe that Lauren knows who it is. As far as we know, all she has is a number. Nothing we know suggests it indicated who killed Lucy, just a number. Perhaps more will be revealed about how she found out.
xx_Dan_xx
14-02-2015, 22:29
nick got no credits julia theme
Perhaps its not the last we've seen of 'Nick' and I don't know maybe it will be played when he literally makes his final appearance. Surely they'll find his body and it might be onscreen.
I still can't believe that Lauren knows who it is. As far as we know, all she has is a number. Nothing we know suggests it indicated who killed Lucy, just a number. Perhaps more will be revealed about how she found out.
She had the rest of Emma's file remember. The piece of paper she found appears to have been the last piece of the puzzle that made sense of the rest.
i hope lauren and emma had the wrong culprit and the real culprit reveals themselves with a dr. evil laugh
The number on the paper lauren found is of the archers/brannings autos so its either one of the brannings or the mitchells
personally I think the either ben or jay phoned the archers with lucys phone for help maybe?? Also before emma died, in max's car on the way to hosp she said to him "you know" so he knows something about it which could be one of the twists to do with abi maybe?? I think jane has something to do with it too
The number 020 749 is of the archers/ branning autos
xx_Dan_xx
16-02-2015, 12:14
The number 020 749 is of the archers/ branning autos
The number is similiar but we've discussed that and its actually wrong.
xx_Dan_xx
16-02-2015, 12:14
The number 020 749 is of the archers/ branning autos
The number is similar but we've discussed that and its actually wrong.
The number on the paper lauren found is of the archers/brannings autos so its either one of the brannings or the mitchells
personally I think the either ben or jay phoned the archers with lucys phone for help maybe?? Also before emma died, in max's car on the way to hosp she said to him "you know" so he knows something about it which could be one of the twists to do with abi maybe?? I think jane has something to do with it too
You can see from this image (courtesy of xx_Dan_xx in the Lucy Beale thread)
http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/t51.2885-15/1738011_1082958591730477_1550784836_n.jpg
that Emma's number is very close to that of the Arches, but isn't exactly the same (which probably means it's a local Walford number).
Your theories are still relevant though. I especially like the idea that Ben or Jay used Lucy's phone to call someone for help. :)
http://www.evoke.ie/showbiz/eastenders-lucy-beale-fan-theory-on-killer/#foobox-1/1/EastEnders1.jpg?6a4a5d
Ah I see ok. Also the numbers below look like 80c maybe flat number?
Ah I see ok. Also the numbers below look like 80c maybe flat number?
There's debate about whether it's 80C or S0C. It looks like an 8 in the shot I posted above but it looks more like an S in other images. 80c could definitely be a flat number. SOC possibly stands for scene of crime?
Yea its a tricky one scene of crime also makes sense and the 0221 could be the time of death?? So frustrating haha just want to know now lol. At first i thought cindy because of the jewellery box now im puzzled lol
Not long to go now before we find out, thank goodness! :D
I do know one slip up of ben tho in a previous episode he said to ian he took lucys phone and purse from her bag and dumped the bag but lucy had her bag with her. But in the spoiler pictures it stated when lucy is helping a drunken jake she Notices her phone and purse have been stolen. So something doesn't add up there either
I'm really excited for tonight's first anniversary episode (with its live elements). I'll be watching live instead of recording and watching later as I usually do.
The only thing that concerns me is that it's going to be very difficult for the Who Killed Lucy? reveal to live up to all this hype. I wouldn't want to be a member of the EE team if people deem it unsuccessful. :eek:
xx_Dan_xx
17-02-2015, 13:54
I'm really excited for tonight's first anniversary episode (with its live elements). I'll be watching live instead of recording and watching later as I usually do.
The only thing that concerns me is that it's going to be very difficult for the Who Killed Lucy? reveal to live up to all this hype. I wouldn't want to be a member of the EE team if people deem it unsuccessful. :eek:
I'm intrigued what elements of Tuesdays and Wednesdays episode are live.
xx_Dan_xx
17-02-2015, 13:54
I'm more excited for this double post glitch fix than the reveal of Lucy's murder.
I'm intrigued what elements of Tuesdays and Wednesdays episode are live.
I'm assuming the live elements will be big clues about Lucy's killer that the EE team didn't want getting out in advance.
I'm more excited for this double post glitch fix than the reveal of Lucy's murder.
I don't think a fix will be happening any time soon, Dan. The owner of the site, Norman Bates, is too busy in real life to devote much time to the site any longer. I'm just glad he's keeping Soapboards going to be honest.
I don't think a fix will be happening any time soon, Dan. The owner of the site, Norman Bates, is too busy in real life to devote much time to the site any longer. I'm just glad he's keeping Soapboards going to be honest.
I use the 'go advanced' feature when I post and that gets rid of the double posting for me?
I use the 'go advanced' feature when I post and that gets rid of the double posting for me?
Me too. :)
I use the 'go advanced' feature when I post and that gets rid of the double posting for me?
I use that too :D
I use the 'go advanced' feature when I post and that gets rid of the double posting for me?
I use that too :D
I use that too :D
but not that time :-)
tammyy2j
17-02-2015, 15:29
One theory I have read is that Max thinks Abi did it and Abi thinks he did it but really it was Cindy and Jane
Come on Thursday
tammyy2j
17-02-2015, 15:29
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Well the latest betting fav is Bobby Beale, whose not even in the final shortlist . Been changing my mind on a daily basis, still none the wiser. Watch out for one episode this week that needs to be viewed right to the end , possibly during the credits roll. Nothing been said which episode as far as I'm aware. Maybe someone might know.
Well the latest betting fav is Bobby Beale, whose not even in the final shortlist . Been changing my mind on a daily basis, still none the wiser. Watch out for one episode this week that needs to be viewed right to the end , possibly during the credits roll. Nothing been said which episode as far as I'm aware. Maybe someone might know.
Thanks for the heads-up Glen as I usually switch off as soon as the credits roll. I hope I remember not to do it for EE this week. :o
According to the press should be one of the Thursday night episodes. Keep an eye on both just in case. Hope it will be announced at the start of the episode.
abi duff duff duff not her
xx_Dan_xx
17-02-2015, 20:07
So I am pretty sure Max said 'you killed Lucy' rather than 'who killed Lucy'. I think whoever said that Max thinks it was Abi and Abi thinks it was Max was right. WHO DID IT!...
Was right about Lucy being killed at home.
What the hell does Phil know.
Yes, Max definitely said "You killed Lucy" to Abi.
I can think we can safely say from that scene that it's not Abi or Max, but did anyone clock the strange look Jane gave Cindy at one point? I'm moving towards thinking Cindy's the killer covered up by Jane since catching that.
So Richard Blackwood's character is connected to Ronnie? Ex boyfriend or husband? Ronnie heard Roxy and Charlie discussing their one night stand!!
The only thing I didn't enjoy about the episode was far too much over-the-top cheeky chappy Alfie.
parkerman
17-02-2015, 21:33
Brilliant. The return of Eastenders' greatest character. They kept that quiet. Right at the front pushing the fruit & veg stall and then at the restaurant. Fantastic.:cheer:
Brilliant. The return of Eastenders' greatest character. They kept that quiet. Right at the front pushing the fruit & veg stall and then at the restaurant. Fantastic.:cheer:
I thought you were going to praise Peggy for a moment! :eek:
Talking about great characters, I enjoyed Barbara Windsor's scenes even though the "Get outta my pub" line from Mick was a bit contrived. :D
tammyy2j
17-02-2015, 22:18
Mick has been at the pub for over a year and don't know one pump is dodgy and sticking, the scene with him and Peggy was not needed
Why did Lauren only address the card to Jane and not Ian and Jane, saying she knows Lucy was killed at her own home, is Ian the killer?
Is Kathy alive and that is what Phil has to tell Ian and Ben :p
Max said to Abi that Lauren knows "you killed Lucy" so I do think Max thinks it is Abi and Abi thinks it is him
How convenient Ronnie after all the trauma and death experience wakes up in time to hear Roxy and Charlie talk of their one night together
Mick has been at the pub for over a year and don't know one pump is dodgy and sticking, the scene with him and Peggy was not needed
It was just a bit of fun. :p
tammyy2j
17-02-2015, 22:34
It was just a bit of fun. :p
It didn't come across as a fun scene just dumb and pointless imo
flappinfanny
17-02-2015, 23:06
A good episode on the whole, although I did think it was stilted in places and a little stagy. The Peggy scenes were pointless to be fair but enjoyable and the line by Mick 'get out my pub' although cringey and a bit like a 'children in need' sketch, was for the fans and very funny.
For all its faults I did enjoy the episode and EastEnders has made a good start to anniversary week. Looking forward to Wednesday.
P.S a little surprised the opening credits did not contain a 30 in the titles. :)
was that lauren's exit where did she go to her mam's?
xx_Dan_xx
18-02-2015, 15:21
was that lauren's exit where did she go to her mam's?
I've read that Lauren does turn up to the wedding - in the non-live parts so I'm assuming her exit must be today as there is no way she'll be in the fully live episodes. There are images where she runs off and both Jane and Peter follow her. Pete and Lauren talk.
xx_Dan_xx
18-02-2015, 15:21
was that lauren's exit where did she go to her mam's?
I've read that Lauren does turn up to the wedding - in the non-live parts so I'm assuming her exit must be today as there is no way she'll be in the fully live episodes. There are images where she runs off and both Jane and Peter follow her. Pete and Lauren talk.
tammyy2j
18-02-2015, 16:56
was that lauren's exit where did she go to her mam's?
Tanya is back this week
How convenient Ronnie after all the trauma and death experience wakes up in time to hear Ronnie and Charlie talk of their one night together
I assume you mean roxy and really eastenders... didn't this happen before? Hello jack incase you forgot
How convenient Ronnie after all the trauma and death experience wakes up in time to hear Ronnie and Charlie talk of their one night together
I assume you mean roxy and really eastenders... didn't this happen before? Hello jack incase you forgot
tammyy2j
18-02-2015, 17:18
I assume you mean roxy and really eastenders... didn't this happen before? Hello jack incase you forgot
Yes did mean Roxy :o yes Jack Branning all over again
xx_Dan_xx
18-02-2015, 17:25
Bit stupid on Roxy and Charlie's part - why on earth would you talk about what happened right next to your sister - not to mention they'll probably believe talking to her helps and sometimes coma patients can hear so that was really stupid if there is truth to that. They deserve to get caught out.
nice to hear bradley remembered
I thought that episode was very skilfully done, particularly the masterly interweaving of the live scenes and pre-recorded. Dot's voiceover about murderers was particularly effective.
Nobody missed a beat as far as I could tell.* Well done to all involved!
So the killer is one of the Beales. I don't think there can be any doubt now that Jane is involved in some way (though probably not the actual killer). From the looks Cindy's been giving this week I'm going with her my final choice for killer I think. I think it's unlikely to be Peter from the way he accused the others. I laughed at the way Bobby was teased as the killer for a moment! :D
I can't wait for tomorrow's reveal!!
*Although I've now read that Joy Joyner called Ian "Adam" and Mimi Keene (Cindy) covered it up. If that's true I didn't notice a thing. :D
xx_Dan_xx
18-02-2015, 21:34
THEY ALL LOOK SO GUILTY. I mean if it turns out Ian didn't do it nor had any knowledge of it, why did EE make him look guilty... They all looked like they did it.
THEY ALL LOOK SO GUILTY. I mean if it turns out Ian didn't do it nor had any knowledge of it, why did EE make him look guilty... They all looked like they did it.
Classic whodunnit misdirection to keep us guessing. Suspension of disbelief is required I think. :p
I don't think Peter looked guilty though (which probably means he is :D). Though how they'd explain his accusation if he turns out to be the killer I don't know!
xx_Dan_xx
18-02-2015, 21:40
Classic whodunnit misdirection to keep us guessing. Suspension of disbelief is required I think. :p
I don't think Peter looked guilty though (which probably means he is :D). Though how they'd explain his accusation if he turns out to be the killer I don't know!
Yeah - I am as intrigued about what Phil needs to tell Ian so badly. I doubt it has anything to do with the Lucy case now its been narrowed down like this.
xx_Dan_xx
18-02-2015, 21:40
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Yeah - I am as intrigued about what Phil needs to tell Ian so badly. I doubt it has anything to do with the Lucy case now its been narrowed down like this.
Something to do with Ben from the looks of it.
Totally absorbing episode. The Kat interludes a waste of time imo. The quality of the rest carried it through. Take my hat off to the cast for tonights efforts. Probably incorrect, but think we're in for a complete surprise for the identity of the culprit.
Probably incorrect, but think we're in for a complete surprise for the identity of the culprit.
Oooh I hope you're right Glen! I'll be delighted if my guesses are wrong (as long as the answer doesn't turn out to be silly).
THEY ALL LOOK SO GUILTY. I mean if it turns out Ian didn't do it nor had any knowledge of it, why did EE make him look guilty... They all looked like they did it.
doof doof doof moments :p
now i don't think anyone from beales or brannings killed her but jane is very shifty as is cindy
bobby's pooh story was funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gqrLxcO28zE
#adamkilledlucy
Oooh I hope you're right Glen! I'll be delighted if my guesses are wrong (as long as the answer doesn't turn out to be silly).
I'd be delighted if your guesses were right Dazzle, either a Beale or a Branning. Anyone else would need to have an off the chart motive for a good culprit conclusion.
I'd be delighted if your guesses were right Dazzle, either a Beale or a Branning. Anyone else would need to have an off the chart motive for a good culprit conclusion.
It would be a risky move by the EE team and could alienate viewers if the reveal is silly or unsatisfying. I hope that doesn't happen even if just for the fact that I think they've put their heart and soul into this storyline (and I'm guessing that careers are riding on it).
parkerman
18-02-2015, 22:57
I thought that episode was very skilfully done, particularly the masterly interweaving of the live scenes and pre-recorded. Dot's voiceover about murderers was particularly effective.
Nobody missed a beat as far as I could tell.* Well done to all involved!
So the killer is one of the Beales. I don't think there can be any doubt now that Jane is involved in some way (though probably not the actual killer). From the looks Cindy's been giving this week I'm going with her my final choice for killer I think. I think it's unlikely to be Peter from the way he accused the others. I laughed at the way Bobby was teased as the killer for a moment! :D
I can't wait for tomorrow's reveal!!
*Although I've now read that Joy Joyner called Ian "Adam" and Mimi Keene (Cindy) covered it up. If that's true I didn't notice a thing. :D
Yes, I noticed it at the time. She asked Jane "How's Adam?"
flappinfanny
18-02-2015, 23:40
good episode, perhaps too many live bits, although it does have you on the edge of your seat, poor jo, bless. it does add to the experience. loved dots monologue, that worked well. i am not sure that it works with part of the episode being live and part recorded. i think it should be all or nothing? Looking forward to tomorrow and the live episode on friday.
good episode, perhaps too many live bits, although it does have you on the edge of your seat, poor jo, bless. it does add to the experience. loved dots monologue, that worked well. i am not sure that it works with part of the episode being live and part recorded. i think it should be all or nothing? Looking forward to tomorrow and the live episode on friday.
Having the whole episode live is a massive logistical exercise so I don't blame them for having inserts during most of the episodes this week. I think it was very well done.
I do agree that flicking between live and pre-recorded can take you out of the experience a bit but it's been done so that the secrets wouldn't leak beforehand (as only a handful of people were in the know) and so that we wouldn't end up in the situation that happened for the 25th. There, Stacey confessed right at the end of the episode and then the storyline was then ignored for weeks as the pre-recorded episodes caught up. That was super annoying! This time we're getting lots of revelations every day, a flashback episode and we'll have a whole fully live aftermath episode on Friday.
I think we're being truly spoilt this week. :)
parkerman
19-02-2015, 09:56
The wedding was amazing - seeing Winston back in his rightful place at the back of the hall. Welcome back old friend.
xx_Dan_xx
19-02-2015, 11:45
It might not be a Beale - could be Denise as she was living there at the time I believe or had access.
It might not be a Beale - could be Denise as she was living there at the time I believe or had access.
Very true, we keep forgetting Denise. It was made very clear that she hated Lucy and that she had a temper a couple of months ago.
I was also thinking only a few days ago that Denise is the suspect who's had the biggest personality change since Lucy's murder. It's been explained as being due to the split with Ian and Patrick's stroke, but is guilt over Lucy's death the real cause?
xx_Dan_xx
19-02-2015, 11:49
Although now that I think about it - it could be anyone. Lucy may of let the killer in. I am not sure if this is EE's attempt to narrow the list of suspects or a red herring, they've already thrown in 1 with Max and Abi. Its perfectly plausible but who knows.
parkerman
19-02-2015, 15:36
Not much longer now....
Not much longer now....
indeed!!! I am almost looking forward to the 9.30 Good Friday recap episode more??!!
I'm now with it being Cindy - in the bedroom as a tussle/accident, and jane moved the body or helped keep it hushed up?!
Not much longer now....
3hours 36mins 25 secs...:)
xx_Dan_xx
19-02-2015, 16:15
I have the horrible feeling that reveal is going to be a let down. Lucy's murder has created so much hype and we all have had an idea of our perfect little scenario so it was always going to have a little bit of a let-down but I do hope that I do get a sense of satisfaction from it, how it happend and why.
tammyy2j
19-02-2015, 16:26
I was against Lucy's murder and year long wait for answer all along but now the reveal is near I cant wait well done EE
I have the horrible feeling that reveal is going to be a let down. Lucy's murder has created so much hype and we all have had an idea of our perfect little scenario so it was always going to have a little bit of a let-down but I do hope that I do get a sense of satisfaction from it, how it happend and why.
That's always the risk with a very hyped storyline. It can't possibly live up to everyone's standards. All I can say is that even if the reveal is a let down, the story's been a very entertaining ride so I won't be knocking the EE team (which isn't to say I won't voice my disappointment).
I didn't notice that 'Adam' was an error until I heard it talked about. I thought Jane had a secret boyfriend and that that was one of the week's revelations!
tammyy2j
19-02-2015, 16:58
I didn't notice that 'Adam' was an error until I heard it talked about. I thought Jane had a secret boyfriend and that that was one of the week's revelations!
Max or Jake or a surprise return by Grant
Jane is hiding something alright
Ruffed_lemur
19-02-2015, 17:00
I'm now with it being Cindy - in the bedroom as a tussle/accident, and jane moved the body or helped keep it hushed up?!
I'm thinking Cindy now too, with Jane involved. A few guesses before that though!
So Mick is aware that Ian knows who killed Lucy, Ian confirms this and Mick does not ask who when he is told it is somebody they both know????
Welcome back from the dead, Kathy!!
How?
Phil forcing her into hiding
Witness protection act maybe
:bow: Well done to all that suspected Jane as killer!!!
Unless there is a twist to come yet :p
ah fecks what a pile of crap no shock twist
OMG JANE!!!!!
OMG KATHY!!!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
How?
Phil forcing her into hiding
Witness protection act maybe
It sounded like Phil was involved from the start.
Unless there is a twist to come yet :p
Cindy???
Jane was a main contender for being involved in my eyes but I still feel shocked that she's apparently the killer!! :eek:
I really enjoyed the episode and the ramping up of the tension throughout. Is Dean dead?
OMG JANE!!!!!
OMG KATHY!!!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I really wish they had not brought Kathy back ... wonder what the story is supposed to be for her not to actually have died in the car crash .... Phil did not seem surprised at all to see her and is he now legally married to Sharon??
OMG JANE!!!!!
OMG KATHY!!!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I really wish they had not brought Kathy back ... wonder what the story is supposed to be for her not to actually have died in the car crash .... Phil did not seem surprised at all to see her and is he now legally married to Sharon??
Maybe not but not all over yet ...
I really wish they had not brought Kathy back ... wonder what the story is supposed to be for her not to actually have died in the car crash .... Phil did not seem surprised at all to see her and is he now legally married to Sharon??
I'm sure he and Kathy were long divorced before she left the country.
It did sound from the conversation that he knew all along. I'm not against Kathy returning as long as there's a reasonably plausible explanation. I'm glad for the fans that were desperate to see her again that they got their wish.
I assume she'll come back to the square permanently at some point.
It will have to be a very good and plausible explanation for her to come back after all this time ... wonder if Ben also knew his mother abandoned him to his brother and then father in England
It will have to be a very good and plausible explanation for her to come back after all this time ... wonder if Ben also knew his mother abandoned him to his brother and then father in England
No I don't think so. A strange feeling passed through him when Kathy got out of the car (like a ghost had walked over his grave) so I'm positive that indicated that he has no knowledge she's alive. How will he cope when he finds out?
Well I'm very happy with that reveal!!!
It would have been an anti-climax if Bobby caused Lucy's death by accident, but he's obviously a psychopath in the making! :eek:
Nobody expected that so well done EE!!! :thumbsup:
It's totally plausible that Jane would have covered it up and whisked him away the next day. She's loved him like a son for many years.
It looks like Richard Blackwood's character is a future love interest for Ronnie and a former criminal gone straight. It also appeared from the earlier episode that he might be Kim's husband.
tammyy2j
19-02-2015, 22:06
Bobby sounded and looked the kid from The Omen :p
Bobby sounded and looked the kid from The Omen :p
Exactly what I was thinking lol.
I see people are complaining on social media. I thought evil Bobby was totally unexpected so I'm not at all disappointed.
tammyy2j
19-02-2015, 22:13
Kathy comeback and Bobby as the killer had been trending heavily since Tuesday
The only surprise was Bobby meant to kill Lucy it was not an accident, all hail Bobby Beale the new pretender to Nick Cotton's throne
How did Emma figure out it was Bobby?
I know he ran away and was found where Lucy's body was discovered asleep and had clippings of the case but still how did Emma crack it?
Did Emma and Lauren only think it was Jane
xx_Dan_xx
19-02-2015, 22:15
Kathy comeback and Bobby as the killer had been trending heavily since Tuesday
The only surprise was Bobby meant to kill Lucy it was not an accident, all hail Bobby Beale the new pretender to Nick Cotton's throne
How did Emma figure out it was Bobby?
I know he ran away and was found where Lucy's body was discovered asleep and had clippings of the case but still how did Emma crack it?
Did Emma and Lauren only think it was Jane
I think Emma thought it was Jane and that Jane told her when she met in the park.
How did Emma figure out it was Bobby?
She may have thought it was Jane. I think Jane told her the truth when they met in the park and that's when Emma commented that it was still murder.
Kathy comeback and Bobby as the killer had been trending heavily since Tuesday
Well Kathy was hinted at heavily by Phil and we knew the killer was almost certainly a Beale, so I don't think it's strange that both were heavily anticipated. It was done deliberately I think to rack up the tension.
The very best payoff for me is that Lucy was attacked deliberately and that it wasn't an accident.
What a cracker , thought it was building up for Denise, but Bobby . Still a few questions need answering, but that will come. So not a shortlist culprit.:thumbsup:
xx_Dan_xx
19-02-2015, 22:39
Bobby will probably admit it tomorrow. He wasn't exactly a real regular character - so perhaps the next few weeks of catch up was simply - amongst the cast - Bobby was told he didn't have any parts as Bobby isn't exactly in every episode nor forms a integral part. So that is how its dealt with immediately rather than playing catch up.
What a cracker , thought it was building up for Denise, but Bobby . Still a few questions need answering, but that will come. So not a shortlist culprit.:thumbsup:
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought it was brill Glen. :)
It seems that Bobby didn't actually know Lucy was dead when Jane walked in so he didn't kill her deliberately. I think he wanted to hurt her though - you could tell by the evil look on his face (and lack of remorse). If he was a normal child he'd have been crying and begging Lucy to wake up at that point.
Can't wait for tomorrow.
Bobby will probably admit it tomorrow. He wasn't exactly a real regular character - so perhaps the next few weeks of catch up was simply - amongst the cast - Bobby was told he didn't have any parts as Bobby isn't exactly in every episode nor forms a integral part. So that is how its dealt with immediately rather than playing catch up.
The actor hasn't been in any of the live inserts so far so I don't know if he'll be in the fully live episode tomorrow. I think it's too much pressure for a young child. Maybe Jane sends him up to bed straight after (and possibly enlists Cindy's help?).
tammyy2j
19-02-2015, 22:44
What was the point of Mick mistaking Tanya for Linda in Danny's only live scene (at least I think it was his only live scene tonight), why would Linda be sitting down for tea with Max
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