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Splashy
28-12-2015, 08:38
Bye bye Flatboy :)

I really thought it was going to be Jack that carps it as he is fresh back and not a main bod anymore.

Ian & Jane have become unsalvagble, just vile. Its ok to assult a kid to save your killer kid and body dumping spouse.

Questions up in the air..Phil had injuries proving he was driving. Max ?

But I wish the actor who played Arthur all the best in the catering industry.

Splashy
28-12-2015, 08:38
Bye bye Flatboy :)

I really thought it was going to be Jack that carps it as he is fresh back and not a main bod anymore.

Ian & Jane have become unsalvagble, just vile. Its ok to assult a kid to save your killer kid and body dumping spouse.

Questions up in the air..Phil had injuries proving he was driving. Max ?

But I wish the actor who played Arthur all the best in the catering industry.

Perdita
28-12-2015, 09:08
Bye bye Flatboy :)

I really thought it was going to be Jack that carps it as he is fresh back and not a main bod anymore.



He is again now :p

Ruffed_lemur
28-12-2015, 13:56
I wish Jane had just reported Bobby. That said, why on earth have the police not listened to Max? Shouting out about Bobby didn't do any good at all!
So irresponsible of Ian sending Bobby to boarding school too. What if he hurts someone there?!

Rear window
28-12-2015, 14:03
I wish Jane had just reported Bobby. That said, why on earth have the police not listened to Max? Shouting out about Bobby didn't do any good at all!
So irresponsible of Ian sending Bobby to boarding school too. What if he hurts someone there?!

Maybe it's a new spinoff planned? Murder at St trinians?

Perdita
28-12-2015, 19:03
Problem is when the Who Killed Lucy storlyine gets awards for being best storyline it won´t convince TPTB that maybe it was not such a good storyline in the end

lizann
28-12-2015, 19:13
sharon will tell jack who again will keep quiet to protect bobby that's probably what will happen

Dazzle
28-12-2015, 21:26
Thank goodness Shirley knows the truth about Dean at last. It's been a loooong time coming.

Very nice, layered proposal scene between Honey and Billy, and Ronnie and Jack.

I'm confused that nobody appears to have noticed Stacy acting strangely. Ignoring people and constantly staring into space doesn't seem like normal behaviour for even the most exhausted of new mothers.

lizann
28-12-2015, 22:08
les saying the green dress billy wore was nice was funny

does whitney serve any purpose anymore no family or mates there, lee isn't into her and now she eyeing up mick

lizann
28-12-2015, 22:08
les saying the green dress billy wore was nice was funny

does whitney serve any purpose anymore no family or mates there, lee isn't into her and now she eyeing up mick

flappinfanny
28-12-2015, 23:28
A good start to the week. Les had the line of the episode admiring Billy's dress, 'That's not too bad.' :D

I think the Mick and Jack friendship could be a good thing for 2016. Kat and Alfie can fly off back to Spain, they are adding nothing to the show. Micks stag was very good and Dickie Ticker was back. :cheer:

A great duff duff. Tomorrows episode should be good.

tammyy2j
28-12-2015, 23:34
Problem is when the Who Killed Lucy storlyine gets awards for being best storyline it won´t convince TPTB that maybe it was not such a good storyline in the end

It has dragged on far too long and the fact most of the Square knows Bobby is the killer not Max and do nothing even Max's own daughter Lauren and grand nephew Liam is ludicrous

I enjoyed tonight's episode

I agree Jack and Mick as friends could be good as long as Jack don't put the moves on Linda, he does like blondes :p

I liked Alfie confiding in Phil and Ian about his tumour

Rear window
29-12-2015, 08:57
Is there a way out for the Bobby story? I suspect short of a shower scene a la Dallas, no.

Splashy
29-12-2015, 09:25
Umm a boarding school would be a huge emotional strain on a kid with violent eanger issues, it wouldnt end well. But then the Beales dont care about anyone else.

When did Sharon agree not to go to the Police?

Whit getting her older man proclivity back, run Mick run, she will get all love sick and delusional again.

Please Alfie down a well someone, the guy just winds me up with twisted selfish ethics an inability to tell the truth.

Splashy
29-12-2015, 09:25
oops duplicate post

parkerman
29-12-2015, 10:02
It was also very convenient that apparently Ian knows the head of a boarding school who has never been mentioned before who can fit Bobby in during the middle of the academic year with, presumably, no questions asked as to the urgency of this request.

Glen1
29-12-2015, 11:52
A young offenders institute would have provided the boundaries and discipline Ian was seeking plus the important psychiatric help for the lad . :wall:

Perdita
29-12-2015, 19:59
Powerful episode for me ...

parkerman
29-12-2015, 20:12
I'm sure we can all agree about the best thing in tonight's episode.

Yes, it was great to see Winston enjoying himself at Mick's stag night.:cheer:

lizann
29-12-2015, 21:16
Powerful episode for me ...

it was good but shirley and elaine annoyed me, matt and rita's acting was excellent

buster and shirley should be grovelling saying sorry to linda

lizann
29-12-2015, 21:16
Powerful episode for me ...

it was good but shirley and elaine annoyed me, matt and rita's acting was excellent

buster and shirley should be grovelling saying sorry to linda

Mo Mouse
29-12-2015, 21:19
For some reason, Shirley appeared with a carrier bag in between her scenes with Dean and seeing Mick and Buster outside the pub. Obviously an urgent shopping trip.

storyseeker1
29-12-2015, 21:46
Tonight was indeed a most powerful episode. Waaay better than the xmas special, I thought. I can't say how good it felt for me to see Dean finally have his comeuppance at long last, and for poor Linda to get her justice and for Dean to admit to her face what he did. I can't wait for the New Years special!

Elaine annoyed me to no end. I get that she wanted vengeance for Linda, and to stop Dean from hurting anyone else, but what she did was stupid, full-stop. And if she stopped and thought for a second, she would know that she was actually putting Mick in danger from the police by sending him to face Dean. Not to mention putting the whole prosecution at risk!

Shirley's reaction surprised me, but at the same time I understood a little. She spent nearly a year defending Dean, believing him to be innocent, only to have it all blow up in her face by catching him in the act. After realising that, it's no surprise she went a little crazy. I suppose in a way she might also think that she was doing Dean a favour by killing him; because she would be saving him from going to prison, and suffering the deserved hardship he would endure there.

Shirley's dad Stan once said he invested a lot in Dean. Boy, that investment was sure wasted!

tammyy2j
29-12-2015, 23:15
Did Linda go to the flat to tell Shirley or fear Shirley was going to let him run away?

Overall an enjoyable episode

maidmarian
29-12-2015, 23:30
[QUOTE=storyseeker1;839466|

Shirley's dad Stan once said he invested a lot in Dean. Boy, that investment was surely wasted[ quote]

I not sure about Stan & Deans relationship-
In general giving a child too much of the
wrong sort of attention (spoiling without
responsibilty) does lead to people turning
out like Dean.
Children should be encouraged to make
the most of their abilities/talents but not
at the expense of thinking rules dont apply to
them and they can do.as they wish without
comeback!!

Dazzle
30-12-2015, 00:19
AT LAST DEAN ADMITS TO RAPING LINDA! :cheer:

I'm so glad it was made clear the vile scumbag has known exactly what he did all along. :angry:


Powerful episode for me ...

Agreed. :)


...matt and rita's acting was excellent

Yes, they were both very good. No one could accuse Matt of not giving it his all because he went a very strange colour at one point. :D


buster and shirley should be grovelling saying sorry to linda

Shirley really got on my nerves. I understand she's in shock but she's as much guilty of playing the victim as Dean in my opinion (and I'm including the attempted drowning in that).

At least Buster wasted no time in apologising (although he was speaking to Mick not Linda). They both need to crawl over hot coals to beg Linda's forgiveness. :wall:


For some reason, Shirley appeared with a carrier bag in between her scenes with Dean and seeing Mick and Buster outside the pub. Obviously an urgent shopping trip.

You weren't paying full attention, MoMo! I think Shirley went to the Minute Mart to buy supplies to run away with Dean. However, it wasn't clear to me whether she was just buying time or if she changed her mind while out.

flappinfanny
30-12-2015, 00:34
I'm sure we can all agree about the best thing in tonight's episode.

Yes, it was great to see Winston enjoying himself at Mick's stag night.:cheer:

And Shrimpee. :D

flappinfanny
30-12-2015, 00:35
For some reason, Shirley appeared with a carrier bag in between her scenes with Dean and seeing Mick and Buster outside the pub. Obviously an urgent shopping trip.

I hope she paid 5p for it? :D

lizann
30-12-2015, 00:37
why did buster apologise to mick only and not linda

was linda worried for shirley around dean and this is why she went back to their flat instead or afraid mick would go over and batter him finish him off

i hope dean goes to prison

flappinfanny
30-12-2015, 00:40
Well what to say about the last EE of 2015? EE is like the children's nursery rhyme, 'When it's good, it's very, very good and when it's bad it is horrid.'

Tuesday's episode was what EE is all about, I did feel sympathy with Roxy but I don't blame Ronnie for ignoring her. Some great performances from Kellie, Matt, Linda, Rita and Karl, although it did not move me to tears. The only niggle I had was the music near the end. It was not needed, it is not Hollyoaks or an Australian continuing drama. (And that is not a dig at Oaks, as it is rather good at the mo) but that sort of thing does not work on EE. Yes to the occasional use of Julia's theme (not in this instance obviously) the ending would have been better not having a duff duff but just bringing the theme tune in gradually as the credits rolled.

No EE until Friday now. Can't wait for the double bill on New Years day. Will EE be able to keep this standard up into 2016, I very much doubt it????? but what away to end 2015. :cheer::cheer::cheer:

Dazzle
30-12-2015, 00:48
Well what to say about the last EE of 2015? EE is like the children's nursery rhyme, 'When it's good, it's very, very good and when it's bad it is horrid.'

That's very apt. :D

Splashy
30-12-2015, 02:53
Tina "Roxy is at the Police calling Dean a rapist" No Tina that implies hear say this was an actual attempted sexual assault. But thats in character for the loyal sister who didn't believe Lynda.

So Shirley attempts to drown another child in a bath! That could of made Roxy a suspect as well.

Elaine is one twisted interfering biddy.

Buster as pointed out in thread didnt appologise to Linda who was tagged with alsorts of insults when he took Deans side.

Jack a man who spawned a child with Roxy encouraging Ronnie to ignore the desperate door knocking,thats going to come back and bite him on the bum.

Splashy
30-12-2015, 02:53
Tina "Roxy is at the Police calling Dean a rapist" No Tina that implies hear say this was an actual attempted sexual assault. But thats in character for the loyal sister who didn't believe Lynda.

So Shirley attempts to drown another child in a bath! That could of made Roxy a suspect as well.

Elaine is one twisted interfering biddy.

Buster as pointed out in thread didnt appologise to Linda who was tagged with alsorts of insults when he took Deans side.

Jack a man who spawned a child with Roxy encouraging Ronnie to ignore the desperate door knocking,thats going to come back and bite him on the bum.

Dazzle
30-12-2015, 03:54
Buster as pointed out in thread didnt appologise to Linda who was tagged with alsorts of insults when he took Deans side.

I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that because I was wondering if I'd misinterpreted Buster aiming the apology solely at Mick. There's still a long way to go if DTC wants to redeem Shirley and Buster for the way they harassed and bullied Linda.

At least now Linda's totally vindicated which was my greatest wish for this storyline.

Splashy
30-12-2015, 05:38
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that because I was wondering if I'd misinterpreted Buster aiming the apology solely at Mick. There's still a long way to go if DTC wants to redeem Shirley and Buster for the way they harassed and bullied Linda.

At least now Linda's totally vindicated which was my greatest wish for this storyline.

No you were spot on, I re-watched it, Buster addresses Mick only, then Mick kills any chance of Linda kicking off by smuffering her with a hug. Clever scripting as I surmise Mick is Busters new best mate but Linda is the cause of Deans violations in his mind.

Splashy
30-12-2015, 05:38
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that because I was wondering if I'd misinterpreted Buster aiming the apology solely at Mick. There's still a long way to go if DTC wants to redeem Shirley and Buster for the way they harassed and bullied Linda.

At least now Linda's totally vindicated which was my greatest wish for this storyline.

No you were spot on, I re-watched it, Buster addresses Mick only, then Mick kills any chance of Linda kicking off by smuffering her with a hug. Clever scripting as I surmise Mick is Busters new best mate but Linda is the cause of Deans violations in his mind.

Rear window
30-12-2015, 08:16
No EE until Friday now. Can't wait for the double bill on New Years day.

What?!
I'm outraged, how very dare they! Oh it throws me right out all this messing about with what's on telly.

sarah c
30-12-2015, 11:16
I hope she paid 5p for it? :D

I got charged 10p the other day for the ones under my eyes....


tah dah!!!

sarah c
30-12-2015, 11:20
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that because I was wondering if I'd misinterpreted Buster aiming the apology solely at Mick. There's still a long way to go if DTC wants to redeem Shirley and Buster for the way they harassed and bullied Linda.

At least now Linda's totally vindicated which was my greatest wish for this storyline.

not excusing Buster but he wasn't on the Square at the time of Dean raping Linda? he turned up after and got to hear people after the event?

sarah c
30-12-2015, 11:23
now don't ask how I know......

but the most effective way, and maybe the only way to drown someone in a bath is to pull their ankle up and out of the water.

so Shirley pushing Dean under from the head/shoulders was never going to work

Dazzle
30-12-2015, 11:36
not excusing Buster but he wasn't on the Square at the time of Dean raping Linda? he turned up after and got to hear people after the event?

He did his share of intimidating Linda along with Shirley and Dean, so he owes her a huge apology.


now don't ask how I know......

but the most effective way, and maybe the only way to drown someone in a bath is to pull their ankle up and out of the water.

I know that from a true-life drama called Brides in the Bath starring Martin Kemp. :D

sarah c
30-12-2015, 11:45
I know that from a true-life drama called Brides in the Bath starring Martin Kemp. :D

ha ha we watch/read the same things!!!

Dazzle
30-12-2015, 16:22
ha ha we watch/read the same things!!!

I've always remembered that tip in case it came in handy some day... :ninja: :D

Splashy
31-12-2015, 02:27
now don't ask how I know......

but the most effective way, and maybe the only way to drown someone in a bath is to pull their ankle up and out of the water.

so Shirley pushing Dean under from the head/shoulders was never going to work

Im too lazy for both methods, Id of plugged in the vacuum cleaner and thrown that in.

storyseeker1
31-12-2015, 03:09
Im too lazy for both methods, Id of plugged in the vacuum cleaner and thrown that in.

Why the vacuum cleaner?

Splashy
31-12-2015, 04:48
Why the vacuum cleaner?

Its got the longest cable as the bathroom has no sockets & I dont think a battery powered toothbrush would cut it. :ninja::D

Anyway Im old school, I prefer some rope & a railway track.

Perdita
31-12-2015, 05:04
Its got the longest cable as the bathroom has no sockets & I dont think a battery powered toothbrush would cut it. :ninja::D

Anyway Im old school, I prefer some rope & a railway track.

Get a cordless one ;) :D

storyseeker1
31-12-2015, 05:54
Its got the longest cable as the bathroom has no sockets & I dont think a battery powered toothbrush would cut it. :ninja::D

Anyway Im old school, I prefer some rope & a railway track.

Yeah, but a vacuum is too large and heavy. It might not even fit in the bath. In every suicide I've seen on tv, people usually get a toaster to electrocute themselves in the bath with.

maidmarian
31-12-2015, 06:23
Yeah, but a vacuum is too large and heavy. It might not even fit in the bath. In every suicide I've seen on tv, people usually get a toaster to electrocute themselves in the bath with.

A couple of bits of info-

There used to be a saying that -farmers
had a high rate of suicide because there
are always guns &ropes on a farm!!


Lady Isobel Barnett* committed suicide
when she was charged and found guilty
of shop lifting in the village store .
She threw / caused an electric bar ?? fire to
fall in the bath!
* was on whats my line!

Splashy
31-12-2015, 08:10
Im chuckling at how macabre this thread drifted.

But I have to ask thou, who has a toaster next to their bog and bath? :cartman: ?

Perdita
31-12-2015, 08:56
Yeah, but a vacuum is too large and heavy. It might not even fit in the bath. In every suicide I've seen on tv, people usually get a toaster to electrocute themselves in the bath with.

I would have thought a hairdryer more appropriate??? :searchme::hmm:

maidmarian
31-12-2015, 08:57
Im chuckling at how macabre this thread drifted.

But I have to ask thou, who has a toaster next to their bog and bath? :cartman: ?

Yes -it has .
A toaster - someone who has not made up their
mind and thinks they may be hungry?
Hygienic?:sick:

Splashy
31-12-2015, 11:08
I would have thought a hairdryer more appropriate??? :searchme::hmm:


is that you Gwen ? :D:D:D

see 2.38 point in this youtube vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvV498pyIM

love the original by Talk Talk

Its thursday and no enders:(

Splashy
31-12-2015, 11:12
Yes -it has .
A toaster - someone who has not made up their
mind and thinks they may be hungry?
Hygienic?:sick:

I was repulsed when a BB bod recounted how they drink coffee on the can :sick:

Dazzle
31-12-2015, 14:26
Im chuckling at how macabre this thread drifted.

You lot with your twisted murder fantasies should hang your heads in shame... :p :ninja:

lizann
01-01-2016, 13:36
Is tonight's episodes straight into the wedding no aftermath or new year's eve episode celebration

Dazzle
01-01-2016, 13:54
Is tonight's episodes straight into the wedding no aftermath or new year's eve episode celebration

It appears so.

maidmarian
01-01-2016, 15:17
It appears so.

Ive sorted out a few of my best chocs ready.:clap:

Hope it lives up to the publicity!

lizann
01-01-2016, 18:19
Ive sorted out a few of my best chocs ready.:clap:

Hope it lives up to the publicity!

i might have biscuits and a cuppa

so much to pack in two half hour episodes all will be rushed

lizann
01-01-2016, 18:19
Ive sorted out a few of my best chocs ready.:clap:

Hope it lives up to the publicity!

i might have biscuits and a cuppa

so much to pack in two half hour episodes all will be rushed

Rear window
01-01-2016, 19:01
I have only watched the last five minutes of this first episode! Nancy's hair is beautiful!

lizann
01-01-2016, 19:57
is bobby already gone off to boarding school as linda sleeping in his bed

mick's cpr skills worked even if he was doing it wrong :p he was the hero saving his rapist brother

nancy did look lovely even lee was shocked

xx_Dan_xx
01-01-2016, 20:59
Excited about Lucas's return - though it's unlikely it'll be a permanent given he's in prison for murder, so that makes me sad.

Dean finally banged up.

All round go episodes today.

xx_Dan_xx
01-01-2016, 20:59
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Glen1
01-01-2016, 21:18
Tonights two episodes Halleluyah , maybe, just maybe the powers that be at the beeb read the views of SoapBoarders. So pleased Dean did get arrested and will face the courts justice , albeit for the one offence. Credit to Matt Di Angelo's portrayal ,difficult role,well acted.:clap:

storyseeker1
01-01-2016, 22:13
I've just had a horrible thought. Roxy's run off because she thought Dean would never get caught, but now he has. If she's gone, and the court has to call her up to testify against Dean, does that mean he has a chance of being released...again?!

lizann
01-01-2016, 22:17
I've just had a horrible thought. Roxy's run off because she thought Dean would never get caught, but now he has. If she's gone, and the court has to call her up to testify against Dean, does that mean he has a chance of being released...again?!

roxy was drinking in albert did she miss her flight or cancel / delay for later for portugal

lizann
01-01-2016, 22:17
I've just had a horrible thought. Roxy's run off because she thought Dean would never get caught, but now he has. If she's gone, and the court has to call her up to testify against Dean, does that mean he has a chance of being released...again?!

roxy was drinking in albert did she miss her flight or cancel / delay for later for portugal

parkerman
01-01-2016, 23:31
Glenda: "I remember Christmas Eve 1981..." How many people can instantly remember Christmas Eve 1981? Can anyone here?

storyseeker1
01-01-2016, 23:36
roxy was drinking in albert did she miss her flight or cancel / delay for later for portugal

Glenda said Roxy believed she was going to Portugal, but Roxy could always get another ticket herself. Ohhh, that stupid *itch! Okay, so maybe she did need to leave Ronnie, but did she really have to leave the country??! If Dean ends up getting off scot-free again, I'm gonna scream!

storyseeker1
01-01-2016, 23:37
Glenda: "I remember Christmas Eve 1981..." How many people can instantly remember Christmas Eve 1981? Can anyone here?

I was 2 at the time, sooo...no.

Dazzle
01-01-2016, 23:40
I really enjoyed tonight's episodes. Very tense scenes at the lake, a lovely ending for Mick and Linda, and Lucas is back! :eek:

However, I have a few quibbles (when do I not? :p):

the rape storyline is now over so I doubt we're going to see Shirley apologise to Linda. I feel quite angry about that because her campaign of harassment greatly exacerbated Linda's distress after the rape. This all appears to have been forgotten about... :wall: (I'm delighted however that Linda ordered Shirley to attend the wedding rather than pleading with her to do so, which is what I thought was about to happen);

in my opinion it's a total copout that Dean won't be done for the attempted murders of Shirley and Mick as well as the attempted rape (and possibly Linda's rape?) - no doubt so he can be brought back in a few years;

when Kat and Alfie were talking in the hotel, Kat remarked "This hall's bigger than our bar in Spain". Very poor writing! She'd have said "This hall's bigger than [insert bar name here]" since she was only talking to Alfie and didn't need to explain they had a bar in Spain. (I know this is a minor quibble but it really irritated me. :D)


I've just had a horrible thought. Roxy's run off because she thought Dean would never get caught, but now he has. If she's gone, and the court has to call her up to testify against Dean, does that mean he has a chance of being released...again?!

Rita Simons only left for a few weeks to star in panto over christmas, so Roxy will be back soon.

Glenda: "I remember Christmas Eve 1981..." How many people can instantly remember Christmas Eve 1981? Can anyone here?

Exactly my reaction. The actress didn't even pause for a couple of seconds as if to remember before saying that! :D

tammyy2j
01-01-2016, 23:50
Glenda: "I remember Christmas Eve 1981..." How many people can instantly remember Christmas Eve 1981? Can anyone here?

I barely remember the one just gone for 2015 :p

Two good episodes but Shirley and Buster should have offered Linda a sincere genuine apology :angry: Linda again made all the effort with Shirley

Why couldn't Mick take a suit off Ian, Alfie or Lee even though he looked well in Linda's bed coat which he has worn quite a lot since he came into the show

Nancy looked stunning

I cant believe Roxy let Amy go with Jack without any fight

I am glad Mick saved Dean and showed he was the bigger man

storyseeker1
01-01-2016, 23:51
in my opinion it's a total copout that Dean won't be done for the attempted murders of Shirley and Mick as well as the attempted rape (and possibly Linda's rape?) - no doubt so he can be brought back in a few years)

I guess, though I doubt it will be anytime soon. Matt has said the role of Dean, while exciting for him to develop his acting skills, has left him emotionally drained. So it's doubtful he'll be back anytime soon.


Rita Simons only left for a few weeks to star in panto over christmas, so Roxy will be back soon.:

Well, that's good. But even if she does come back; if Roxy isn't around at the time when the police want to question her, there's a chance they'll have to release Dean, and by the time she returns he may do a runner.

flappinfanny
01-01-2016, 23:51
Glenda: "I remember Christmas Eve 1981..." How many people can instantly remember Christmas Eve 1981? Can anyone here?

I was thinking that. :)

flappinfanny
01-01-2016, 23:54
Memo to DTC don't overdo the montages, its Hollyoaks down south. I will let them off with this one, but no more!

I am in two minds about the episodes tonight. They were very watchable, but at times ott and cheesey. I thought Diane Parish and Maddy Hill were the stand out performers tonight. although it was nice to see Glynis Barber again. Genius having Mick at the alter in his pink dressing gown. Nice touch with the credits at the end.

flappinfanny
01-01-2016, 23:54
duplicate......................................... .....

Dazzle
02-01-2016, 00:07
I guess, though I doubt it will be anytime soon. Matt has said the role of Dean, while exciting for him to develop his acting skills, has left him emotionally drained. So it's doubtful he'll be back anytime soon.

He'll soon change his mind if the work isn't there (although I know he was reasonably successful last time he left EE). Plus, Dean could be brought back rehabilitated after several years in prison. In reality, that's not something that's likely to happen to a person like him who lacks a conscience, but this is EE where anything's possible.


Well, that's good. But even if she does come back; if Roxy isn't around at the time when the police want to question her, there's a chance they'll have to release Dean, and by the time she returns he may do a runner.

That's possible, but I feel like a line's now been drawn under the rape storyline - which is why I doubt we'll see an apology from Shirley. You never know though..

parkerman
02-01-2016, 00:18
As Dean has now been arrested for the attempted rape of Roxy is it not possible the police would look again at Linda's accusation? And what if Linda and Shirley tell the police that Dean confessed to the rape?

Just a thought......

tammyy2j
02-01-2016, 00:21
As Dean has now been arrested for the attempted rape of Roxy is it not possible the police would look again at Linda's accusation? And what if Linda and Shirley tell the police that Dean confessed to the rape?

Just a thought......

Shirley didn't want Dean done for attempting to drown her and Mick so I don't think she will admit to the police he raped Linda which she should to try and redeem herself

storyseeker1
02-01-2016, 00:22
He'll soon change his mind if the work isn't there (although I know he was reasonably successful last time he left EE). Plus, Dean could be brought back rehabilitated after several years in prison. In reality, that's not something that's likely to happen to a person like him who lacks a conscience, but this is EE where anything's possible.

I recall they did a similiar thing with Libby's dad. He tried to murder her when she was little, then after several years in prison getting psychiatric treatment, he came back reformed, only to end up getting murdered by Lucas.


That's possible, but I feel like a line's now been drawn under the rape storyline - which is why I doubt we'll see an apology from Shirley. You never know though..

God I hope so. They would just be repeating storylines if they released Dean again.

I'm assuming Glenda was talking to her son....whatshisname?

tammyy2j
02-01-2016, 00:23
I recall they did a similiar thing with Libby's dad. He tried to murder her when she was little, then after several years in prison getting psychiatric treatment, he came back reformed, only to end up getting murdered by Lucas.



God I hope so. They would just be repeating storylines if they released Dean again.

I'm assuming Glenda was talking to her son....whatshisname?

Danny Mitchell was it?

alcapo11
02-01-2016, 00:24
Shirley didn't want Dean done for attempting to drown her and Mick so I don't think she will admit to the police he raped Linda which she should to try and redeem herself

I think Dean will confess himself in the end, then he could return in the future whether he's in jail or if he gets out and wants to make amends (Which is almost impossible really).

Dazzle
02-01-2016, 00:28
As Dean has now been arrested for the attempted rape of Roxy is it not possible the police would look again at Linda's accusation? And what if Linda and Shirley tell the police that Dean confessed to the rape?

I think that's likely to happen. Shirley could have mentioned the confession to the police at the lakeside.

As an aside, I can't imagine the police wouldn't really have allowed them go indoors to the warmth to take their statements.


Danny Mitchell was it?

Yes. I wonder if he's going to be brought back with a new head?

tammyy2j
02-01-2016, 00:28
I think Dean will confess himself in the end, then he could return in the future whether he's in jail or if he gets out and wants to make amends (Which is almost impossible really).

I hope he does confess

storyseeker1
02-01-2016, 00:38
I can't believe Glenda would then go and steal from her own daughter's purse. She really will stoop to anything, won't she?

I thought she and Danny had fallen out? Then again, it has been a few years, so they obviously made up since then.

parkerman
02-01-2016, 00:44
As an aside, I can't imagine the police wouldn't really have allowed them go indoors to the warmth to take their statements.


Exactly what I said when the police said they can't go back inside until they've made their statements. What was the point of that?

Mo Mouse
03-01-2016, 16:52
Absolutely love Glenda. A proper woman and one of my fave characters ever.

lizann
03-01-2016, 23:41
Absolutely love Glenda. A proper woman and one of my fave characters ever.

i was hoping we would see her say hello to phil and ian

lizann
03-01-2016, 23:41
Absolutely love Glenda. A proper woman and one of my fave characters ever.

i was hoping we would see her say hello to phil and ian

Dazzle
04-01-2016, 01:04
I'd like to see Glenda return. She's one of those characters I find entertaining even though I'd like to strangle her. She and Archie were certainly well suited. Maybe she could get together with Gavin and form the ultimate villainous power couple.

maidmarian
04-01-2016, 03:47
:D
I'd like to see Glenda return. She's one of those characters I find entertaining even though I'd like to strangle her. She and Archie were certainly well suited. Maybe she could get together with Gavin and form the ultimate villainous power couple.

Well -if Gavin appeared a bit more often-
would be a start.
Glenda would be more matched to a villain than
Kathy!!:D

I hope Gavin is "really" villainous when all
is revealed and its not just been hype!

Dazzle
04-01-2016, 06:17
:D

Well -if Gavin appeared a bit more often-
would be a start.
Glenda would be more matched to a villain than
Kathy!!:D

I hope Gavin is "really" villainous when all
is revealed and its not just been hype!

I read Paul Nicholas was committed to other work when he signed on to play Gavin, which is why he's only been seen briefly so far. Hopefully, when his other work is done, he'll be able to commit to EE full time - until he's inevitably killed off! :D

As far as the hype goes, the character has an awful lot to live up to after DTC's boasting. However, they've made a good start by having Gavin convince Sharon he cares for her and helping him to escape, even after he initially made it clear he had nothing but disdain for her (plus Phil's kidnap of course!). That took some serious cunning and powers of persuasion.

storyseeker1
04-01-2016, 21:40
Well, so much for Dean confessing. Thank god Shirley didn't give in, and Buster told him where to get off.

lizann
04-01-2016, 21:42
does kyle know kat too

storyseeker1
04-01-2016, 21:47
does kyle know kat too

Guess we'll find out tomorrow, though I shouldn't think so. I mean, how would he find out about Stacey's cousins, unless Stacey's dad wrote about them all in that box.

lizann
04-01-2016, 22:03
Well, so much for Dean confessing. Thank god Shirley didn't give in, and Buster told him where to get off.

is dean inside for linda and roxy no bail for him

lizann
04-01-2016, 22:04
Well, so much for Dean confessing. Thank god Shirley didn't give in, and Buster told him where to get off.

is dean inside for linda and roxy no bail for him

Dazzle
04-01-2016, 22:18
Well, so much for Dean confessing. Thank god Shirley didn't give in, and Buster told him where to get off.

So much for my claim that the New Year's Day episodes would draw a line under the rape storyline! :o

I'm still holding out faint hope Dean will plead guilty if he can't afford the lawyer he wants.

Why did DTC and colleagues decide to name Stacey's baby after an iconic character if he's not even related to the original Arthur Fowler? It makes me suspect Stacey has made a mistake, even though it's unlikely the hospital would have. Still, DTC does like his improbable twists...

storyseeker1
04-01-2016, 23:09
So much for my claim that the New Year's Day episodes would draw a line under the rape storyline! :o

I'm still holding out faint hope Dean will plead guilty if he can't afford the lawyer he wants.

Why did DTC and colleagues decide to name Stacey's baby after an iconic character if he's not even related to the original Arthur Fowler? It makes me suspect Stacey has made a mistake, even though it's unlikely the hospital would have. Still, DTC does like his improbable twists...

The guy tried to drown his mother, and then had the audacity to call her, to get her to get him a good lawyer. The notion that he would suddenly grow a conscience and confess seems highly improbable now. He's so deluded with his innocence, I bet he could kill Shirley right in front of a million witnesses, and still say it weren't his fault.

Well, it's not unusual for a guy to want to name his kid after his late father, and Stacey probably didn't want to put up too much of a fuss at the time in case Martin started suspecting the truth.

lizann
04-01-2016, 23:17
i did laugh at dean's audacity's asking was all ok to his parents

flappinfanny
04-01-2016, 23:33
A good start to the week. We have foreigners (Northerner's) in Albert Square. :rotfl:

Nice to see Mo and Charlie again. How could Fat Elvis Dump Maureen?

Excellent scenes in prison with Dean, Buster and Shirley and loving the Nanwar scenes. All in all a good episode.

Dazzle
04-01-2016, 23:57
The guy tried to drown his mother, and then had the audacity to call her, to get her to get him a good lawyer. The notion that he would suddenly grow a conscience and confess seems highly improbable now. He's so deluded with his innocence, I bet he could kill Shirley right in front of a million witnesses, and still say it weren't his fault.

I agree Dean won't accept responsibility for his crimes any time soon (if ever).

Sorry, I didn't make it clear that I meant he might plead guilty to get a lesser sentence given the evidence against him. A solicitor would probably advise him to do so, and if Dean can't get hold of money and has to accept a duty solicitor, he might feel the latter would be unable to mount a decent enough defence to get him off. Hence, Dean might possibly plead guilty in order to get as short a sentence as possible.

That was what I meant anyway; I've no idea if it'll happen that way or if Dean would ever be pragmatic enough to plead guilty when he doesn't believe he is.


Well, it's not unusual for a guy to want to name his kid after his late father, and Stacey probably didn't want to put up too much of a fuss at the time in case Martin started suspecting the truth.

I totally understand Martin wanting to name his son after his father. What I was questioning was DTC's thinking in deciding to give a baby not related to Martin a name so steeped in EE history.

Dazzle
04-01-2016, 23:57
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tammyy2j
05-01-2016, 00:44
So much for my claim that the New Year's Day episodes would draw a line under the rape storyline! :o

I'm still holding out faint hope Dean will plead guilty if he can't afford the lawyer he wants.

Why did DTC and colleagues decide to name Stacey's baby after an iconic character if he's not even related to the original Arthur Fowler? It makes me suspect Stacey has made a mistake, even though it's unlikely the hospital would have. Still, DTC does like his improbable twists...

I would love for Stacey to be wrong and have little Arthur be Martin's baby, even with her postpartum psychosis I'm finding it hard to have sympathy for her and no surprise Kyle is her brother as suspected

I was hoping for Shirley to have a good conversation with Dean and ask him why he did the rape and attempted rape and try and get him to confess

Buster pretty much confirmed he did suspect Dean had raped Linda but instead choose to side with Dean :angry:

I guess with Linda and Mick on honeymoon we wont see Linda get an apology from Shirley and Buster, is Ollie gone with them?

The nun is back to see Kat for a donation

With all their money why don't Kat and Alfie and the kids stay in posh fab expensive hotel

Dazzle
05-01-2016, 05:25
I was hoping for Shirley to have a good conversation with Dean and ask him why he did the rape and attempted rape and try and get him to confess

Buster pretty much confirmed he did suspect Dean had raped Linda but instead choose to side with Dean :angry:

I guess with Linda and Mick on honeymoon we wont see Linda get an apology from Shirley and Buster


Shirley and Buster are nowhere near redeemed in my eyes, even if she is back running the pub as if butter wouldn't melt. :angry:

Their reactions to the rape revelation - attempted drowning and threats - don't impress me. Obviously I can understand their disgust and anger, but haven't they learned that yet more threats and violence aren't the answer? Basically it's been more of the same from Shirley and Buster, except this time their ire is directed at Dean instead of Linda. Maybe it was too much to hope they'd learn something from the experience...:wall:

As you say tammyy2j, a meaningful conversation in the prison was very much needed.


With all their money why don't Kat and Alfie and the kids stay in posh fab expensive hotel

Excellent point! :D

parkerman
05-01-2016, 16:12
Sorry, this is going back a bit in time, but I thought it was of some interest if anyone hasn't seen it.

The following is an exchange in next week's Radio Times letters column. As you can see, the viewer who wrote in expresses the views many of us made at the time, while the BBC do not answer the question at all.

Letter: "I was appalled by the Eastenders plotline about Cora's homelessness, which painted council officials as uninterested and enjoying a Christmas lunch while others suffer - and then, after one protest, were able to produce a home for her immediately like a rabbit out of a hat. It was irresponsible, and disrespectful both to those looking for a home and to cash-strapped councils doing their best at times of massive cuts."

BBC response: "This episode was part of a long running storyline involving Cora Cross. Eastenders has a long history of reflecting social issues but, being a drama, the outcomes for characters can vary and the main point of Cora's story was her family and friends rallying round and doing everything they could to help find a home for Christmas."

So no real answer at all then.

Dazzle
05-01-2016, 16:26
The BBC's PR team has obviously been taking lessons from politicians on how to use the maximum number of words to say absolutely nothing. :wall:

Perdita
05-01-2016, 17:02
Sorry, this is going back a bit in time, but I thought it was of some interest if anyone hasn't seen it.

The following is an exchange in next week's radio Times letters column. As you can see, the viewer who wrote in expresses the views many of us made at the time, while the BBC do not answer the question at all.

Letter: "I was appalled by the Eastenders plotline about Cora's homelessness, which painted council officials as uninterested and enjoying a Christmas lunch while others suffer - and then, after one protest, were able to produce a home for her immediately like a rabbit out of a hat. It was irresponsible, and disrespectful both to those looking for a home and to cash-strapped councils doing their best at times of massive cuts."

BBC response: "This episode was part of a long running storyline involving Cora Cross. Eastenders has along history of reflecting social issues but, being a dram, the outcomes for characters can vary and the msin point of Cora's story was her family and friends rallying round and doing everything they could to help find a home for Christmas."

So no real answer at all then.

Sorry, I rarely do this but this time ..B******S* :angry:

flappinfanny
05-01-2016, 23:14
A good episode again tonight. WE are being spoilt. When does the real EastEnders return? :) For me June Whitfield was the stand out performer tonight, but Jessie and Lacey were very good and the introduction of the character Kyle was interesting . Daran Little's script was very good, my only niggle was, did we need to have Stacey's storyline along with Kats tonight, in the same episode? It did seem a bit of an over load and perhaps we lose some of the impact of both storylines?

Dazzle
06-01-2016, 00:40
A good episode again tonight. WE are being spoilt. When does the real EastEnders return? :) For me June Whitfield was the stand out performer tonight, but Jessie and Lacey were very good and the introduction of the character Kyle was interesting . Daran Little's script was very good, my only niggle was, did we need to have Stacey's storyline along with Kats tonight, in the same episode? It did seem a bit of an over load and perhaps we lose some of the impact of both storylines?

Agreed about June Whitfield. I actually started bawling when she told the story of her poor dead babies - not something that happens to me very often when watching a soap!

I think Lacey Turner is playing a blinder with the post-partum psychosis storyline. I find her thoroughly convincing and sympathetic even though I haven't liked the character much recently. She's got good chemistry with Kyle (who I think has made a very good start), and I hope he can help her through her illness. And there's two more Slater sisters waiting in the wings!

It was indeed an excellent script by Daran Little. I always enjoy his episodes.

lizann
06-01-2016, 01:03
kyle don't know kat as i was wondering if he did, like him so far

parkerman
06-01-2016, 23:04
Arthur sleeps a lot.

maidmarian
06-01-2016, 23:21
kyle don't know kat as i was wondering if he did, like him so far

At least Kyles connection to family is not
through Jean- so for me thats another plus!
I agree hes made a good believable start!:cheer:

flappinfanny
06-01-2016, 23:31
A fairly good episode, but not brilliant. Last Nights was far better and had a better script.

The positives first:

Nice scenes with Tamwar and Nancy and I liked the scene with Dot and Stacey in the church. (It comes to something when we have more church scenes in EastEnders than in Emmerdale. :D ) Rakhee Thakrar, Jessie Wallace and Lacey Turner knocked it out of the park tonight.

The negatives:

Mo (Laila Morse) and Charlie, (Derek Martin) were appallingly bad. This episode should have been a three hander between Kat, Mo and Charlie, but without being unkind, I suspect DTC knew Laila and Derek were not up to the mark. Sad as it could have been outstanding. There was far, far too much going on, too many storylines, what with shab's and Kush, Stacey and Dot and then the Slaters including Alfie. I am not interested in the Alfie storyline to be honest. This could have been an outstanding episode and if the likes of Diederick Santer had still been Executive Producer, it would have been.

tammyy2j
06-01-2016, 23:35
Is Tamwar planning on proposing as he is very keen for Nancy to learn more about his religion

I too like Kyle so far

Dazzle
07-01-2016, 03:47
Now we know why Kat's secret son and Stacey's psychosis storylines are playing out together: to feed into Stacey's paranoia about Arthur.


Arthur sleeps a lot.

I noticed that too lol. Newborn babies do sleep most of the time, but they're very lucky with the baby (or more likely babies) playing him. Maybe being held so close to Lacey the whole time helps.


Rakhee Thakrar, Jessie Wallace and Lacey Turner knocked it out of the park tonight.

They did. I'm especially impressed with Lacey, who portrays vulnerability so convincingly. You wouldn't think she had it in her if you'd only seen her play snarling Stacy.


Mo (Laila Morse) and Charlie, (Derek Martin) were appallingly bad.

I didn't think they were quite that bad lol. I'm sad to see Charlie go but I wouldn't be averse to never seeing Mo again.


I am not interested in the Alfie storyline to be honest.

Me neither. I wish he'd hurry up and die already! :D


Is Tamwar planning on proposing as he is very keen for Nancy to learn more about his religion

I'm finding Tamwar a bit pushy which I didn't expect from him. He must be thinking that he and Nancy have a future. I wonder if he would want to marry a non-Muslim?

Rear window
07-01-2016, 10:01
Wanting an emergency baptism should ring alarm bells (if not church bells) with someone there!

sarah c
07-01-2016, 10:15
I noticed that too lol. Newborn babies do sleep most of the time, but they're very lucky with the baby (or more likely babies) playing him. Maybe being held so close to Lacey the whole time helps.



I thought it was obvious that a dummy baby was used for some of the scenes where he was strapped to Stacey tightly?

Dazzle
07-01-2016, 10:20
I thought it was obvious that a dummy baby was used for some of the scenes where he was strapped to Stacey tightly?

It looked like a real baby to me - at least when its face was in view (which was often) - but you're probably right because it (or they?) have been incredibly sleepy. :D (Plus filming all those scenes with a real baby/babies would have been highly impractical.)


Remember peeps there are two episodes of EE on tonight!

Rear window
07-01-2016, 10:50
It looked like a real baby to me - at least when its face was in view (which was often) - but you're probably right because it (or they?) have been incredibly sleepy. :D (Plus filming all those scenes with a real baby/babies would have been highly impractical.)


Remember peeps there are two episodes of EE on tonight!

The amount she was patting him too.

So why 2 tonight? None tomorrow?

Rear window
07-01-2016, 10:50
It looked like a real baby to me - at least when its face was in view (which was often) - but you're probably right because it (or they?) have been incredibly sleepy. :D (Plus filming all those scenes with a real baby/babies would have been highly impractical.)


Remember peeps there are two episodes of EE on tonight!

The amount she was patting him too.

So why 2 tonight? None tomorrow?

Perdita
07-01-2016, 10:52
The amount she was patting him too.

So why 2 tonight? None tomorrow?

None tomorrow

storyseeker1
07-01-2016, 15:51
The amount she was patting him too.

So why 2 tonight? None tomorrow?

Yeah, because it's the FA cup tomorrow.

Dazzle
07-01-2016, 17:45
Sarah c got me thinking about Stacey's baby who looks so lifelike and yet is usually so unnaturally still. A little research shows that lifelike baby dolls (called reborns) are big business and there's some scarily real looking ones out there:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/474355773223369100/

No wonder baby Arthur with his little sleeping face peeking out of the sling had me fooled! :eek:

Perdita
07-01-2016, 19:48
Why is nobody thinking of giving Charlie an aspirin??? That could have saved his life :(

lizann
07-01-2016, 19:51
ambulance took it's time, is there no doctor anymore on square

Perdita
07-01-2016, 20:09
ambulance took it's time, is there no doctor anymore on square

Difficult to decide on time it took for ambulance to arrive with the scenes changing from Charlie to Stacey and Alfie ... Might not have been that long

flappinfanny
07-01-2016, 20:14
A much better first episode tonight. Very powerful, Jessie and Lacey were ....... amazing. I was in tears at the end when Kat covered Charlie with the blanket and I was gone when they played Julia's theme. How can EE go from mediocre to brilliant in 24 hrs?

Perdita
07-01-2016, 20:24
Reminded me of my Dad going ... was nearly 23 years ago now but for me it is still like it was yesterday :crying:

sarah c
07-01-2016, 20:27
Reminded me of my Dad going ... was nearly 23 years ago now but for me it is still like it was yesterday :crying:


:heart::heart::heart:

lizann
07-01-2016, 20:38
tough watching scenes like that when it evokes memories, stay strong per

storyseeker1
07-01-2016, 20:51
Why is nobody thinking of giving Charlie an aspirin??? That could have saved his life :(

An aspirin for a heart attack???

lizann
07-01-2016, 21:03
An aspirin for a heart attack???

people with heart problems are put on aspirin and apparently it can help in heart attacks

lizann
07-01-2016, 21:03
An aspirin for a heart attack???

people with heart problems are put on aspirin and apparently it can help in heart attacks

maidmarian
07-01-2016, 21:07
Why is nobody thinking of giving Charlie an aspirin??? That could have saved his life :(

I have heard of that . Im not sure about
asking a question - in view of your sad
comment about your Dad below.
So please ignore if inappropriate!

Some people dont take aspirin for headaches
because they can cause severe digestive
problems for them. Obviously heart attacks
are very serious- is there a chance aspirin
could work for those for whom it normally
causes digestive problems?

parkerman
07-01-2016, 22:30
Blood clots cause most heart attacks. Aspirin helps prevent heart attack by changing how the blood clots. It slows clotting and helps prevent blood clots. It can also decrease the size of a forming clot. So it can help. But I'm not sure how many people have aspirin at home now. I would think most people keep paracetemol as a pain killer rather than aspirin these days.

Mo said the operator said the ambulance would take 10 minutes.

lizann
07-01-2016, 22:49
charlie knew of brian's other family, susan was name of martin's stalker, would dominic have another twist

flappinfanny
07-01-2016, 23:00
duplicate post

flappinfanny
07-01-2016, 23:01
charlie knew of brian's other family, susan was name of martin's stalker, would dominic have another twist

Just got what you meant? Nothing would surprise me with dear old Dom.

Lacey Turner really excelled in both episodes tonight. I also felt sorry for Kyle. I could strangle Carmel. EE really upped their game tonight, a great duff duff, will this quality continue. I doubt it.

tammyy2j
07-01-2016, 23:19
Reminded me of my Dad going ... was nearly 23 years ago now but for me it is still like it was yesterday :crying:

Yes it was very sad brought back memories for me too, well acted by Jessie and Derek, sad to see Charlie die

I hope you are ok now Perdita

lizann
08-01-2016, 01:36
charlie or kat mentioned an aunt vie is she mo's daughter too, don't remember any mention of her before only viv

Dazzle
08-01-2016, 02:45
Harrowing episodes what with Charlie's sad death and Stacey's worsening mental heath. Very well played by all. Sorry to hear it brought back such sad memories for Perdita and tammyy2j. :(

It's clever how several storyline strands have been timed to collide in order to fuel Stacey's paranoia. It was a shock seeing Charlie again in the taxi! :eek:

I was watching baby Arthur closely during the two episodes and it's now obvious to me that it's a very lifelike fake baby in the sling and a real baby at other times.


An aspirin for a heart attack???

Years ago I saw a doctor on a medical documentary advise that everyone should keep soluble aspirin to hand to put one under the tongue of someone having a suspected heart attack. It's possible doing that could buy enough time to save someone's life. I've kept a packet in my handbag since, although I've luckily never had to use it. I think parkerman's correct that very few people have aspirin in the house these days.


If aspirin is easily available and you know you are not allergic to it, slowly chew and then swallow an adult-sized tablet (300mg) while you are waiting for the ambulance to arrive.

The aspirin will help to thin your blood and restore blood supply to your heart.

Taken from: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Heart-attack/Pages/Symptoms.aspx

Perdita
08-01-2016, 05:29
An aspirin for a heart attack???


Aspirin slows the blood's clotting action by reducing the clumping of platelets. Platelets are cells that clump together and help to form blood clots. Aspirin keeps platelets from clumping together, thus helping to prevent or reduce blood clots.
During a heart attack blood clots form in an already narrowed artery and block the flow of oxygen-rich blood to the heart muscle. When taken during a heart attack, aspirin slows clotting and decreases the size of the blood clot that is forming.
After a heart attack Aspirin can help prevent a second heart attack. Taken daily, Aspirin's anti-clotting action helps prevent a first or second heart attack. The same applies to strokes. My friend gave her husband an aspirin when he showed signs of a heart attack and the doctor and ambulance crew told her that it probably saved his life.

Rear window
08-01-2016, 08:23
I thought it was a lovely moment with Charlie in the cab - a lull in the storm for poor Stacey.

sarah c
08-01-2016, 09:37
!

Some people dont take aspirin for headaches
because they can cause severe digestive
problems for them. Obviously heart attacks
are very serious- is there a chance aspirin
could work for those for whom it normally
causes digestive problems?

if you have a stomach ulcer say, the aspirin can aggrevate it - so whilst they dont cause digestive problems, people with problems already would avoid just because it would be uncomfortable?

sarah c
08-01-2016, 09:38
Mo said the operator said the ambulance would take 10 minutes.


and in London the Ambulance Service have a 8 minute maximum response time for cardiac cases etc

storyseeker1
08-01-2016, 10:00
and in London the Ambulance Service have a 8 minute maximum response time for cardiac cases etc

Well, that is close to 10 mins. When I'm talking to someone in an emergency, I usually don't bother giving them an "exact" estimation of how long something will be, and just tell them the nearest average time.

Perdita
08-01-2016, 11:00
if you have a stomach ulcer say, the aspirin can aggrevate it - so whilst they dont cause digestive problems, people with problems already would avoid just because it would be uncomfortable?
You can take another pill to protect the stomach, my mother-in-law stopped her daily aspirin because of upset stomach and then had a severe stroke, which she probably would not had suffered if she had spoken to the doctor about her stomach problem :(

Splashy
08-01-2016, 14:36
Martin what a total utter tool. He knew she was off her meds and still he ignored her obvious signs, choosing mostly to be in the vic. Then worse of all when shes safe in a warm cafe he undermines the bod whos calling him to tell him where she is!! Charlie wasnt a good source of info, he lied to Zoe most of her life and didnt even know about the lost twin. As for Kush grabbing him by the neck, what a thug.

This is all very sad, I guess they will section Stacy, Martin will look after the kid, Carmel or Shabby will tell him yet unproved reality. No name on the Birth certificate and without Stacys consent any dna test they do holds no legal water. They would need to go to court its going to get very nasty.

But hey, Gary Hobs got off lucky when it was proved Bobby was Ians.

Splashy
08-01-2016, 14:36
Martin what a total utter tool. He knew she was off her meds and still he ignored her obvious signs, choosing mostly to be in the vic. Then worse of all when shes safe in a warm cafe he undermines the bod whos calling him to tell him where she is!! Charlie wasnt a good source of info, he lied to Zoe most of her life and didnt even know about the lost twin. As for Kush grabbing him by the neck, what a thug.

This is all very sad, I guess they will section Stacy, Martin will look after the kid, Carmel or Shabby will tell him yet unproved reality. No name on the Birth certificate and without Stacys consent any dna test they do holds no legal water. They would need to go to court its going to get very nasty.

But hey, Gary Hobs got off lucky when it was proved Bobby was Ians.

sarah c
08-01-2016, 14:51
But hey, Gary Hobs got off lucky when it was proved Bobby was Ians.

yes but didnt Laura register Bobby's birth without Ian present? yet was able to include his name on the certificate!!!

and proof of Bobby's paternity was done purely by seeing Ian's name included?

Dazzle
08-01-2016, 14:56
This is all very sad, I guess they will section Stacy, Martin will look after the kid, Carmel or Shabby will tell him yet unproved reality. No name on the Birth certificate and without Stacys consent any dna test they do holds no legal water. They would need to go to court its going to get very nasty.

Good point. Poor Martin has no legal rights over Arthur because he's not on the birth certificate. It could indeed get very nasty.


But hey, Gary Hobs got off lucky when it was proved Bobby was Ians.

Didn't Gary get off lightly! :D

Splashy
08-01-2016, 15:52
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D



yes but didnt Laura register Bobby's birth without Ian present? yet was able to include his name on the certificate!!!

and proof of Bobby's paternity was done purely by seeing Ian's name included?

Wasnt Ian being vile to her thinking it was Garys child ? I have forgotten why the kid went to Ian in the end.

Ruffed_lemur
08-01-2016, 16:44
yes but didnt Laura register Bobby's birth without Ian present? yet was able to include his name on the certificate!!!

and proof of Bobby's paternity was done purely by seeing Ian's name included?

Were Ian and Laura married? I can't remember. Husbands don't need to be present AFAIK.

Rear window
08-01-2016, 16:45
Were Ian and Laura married? I can't remember. Husbands don't need to be present AFAIK.

And indeed the husband can go and register the birth on their own.

Rear window
08-01-2016, 16:45
Were Ian and Laura married? I can't remember. Husbands don't need to be present AFAIK.

And indeed the husband can go and register the birth on their own.

Ruffed_lemur
08-01-2016, 16:50
And indeed the husband can go and register the birth on their own.

Yes. I thought Ian was married to Laura, but he seems to have had a lot of weddings!

lizann
08-01-2016, 17:34
I thought it was a lovely moment with Charlie in the cab - a lull in the storm for poor Stacey.

i expected bradley on vic roof

sharon taking denny on water sports holiday, he nearly just died is she off her head or what

parkerman
08-01-2016, 17:37
And indeed the husband can go and register the birth on their own.
Something I can confirm from first hand experience! :)

Perdita
08-01-2016, 17:47
Something I can confirm from first hand experience! :)

My husband did too ... gave the son a different name to what we had agreed on :p

Dazzle
08-01-2016, 17:53
My husband did too ... gave the son a different name to what we had agreed on :p

That's very naughty! :nono:

parkerman
08-01-2016, 17:56
My husband did too ... gave the son a different name to what we had agreed on :p
When my elder brother was born, my dad went and registered the birth without even asking my mum what name he should be given.



P.S. You can read about this and how this incident led to me being named the way I was in a certain book which came out last March! :p

tammyy2j
08-01-2016, 19:20
Martin what a total utter tool. He knew she was off her meds and still he ignored her obvious signs, choosing mostly to be in the vic. Then worse of all when shes safe in a warm cafe he undermines the bod whos calling him to tell him where she is!! Charlie wasnt a good source of info, he lied to Zoe most of her life and didnt even know about the lost twin. As for Kush grabbing him by the neck, what a thug.

This is all very sad, I guess they will section Stacy, Martin will look after the kid, Carmel or Shabby will tell him yet unproved reality. No name on the Birth certificate and without Stacys consent any dna test they do holds no legal water. They would need to go to court its going to get very nasty.

But hey, Gary Hobs got off lucky when it was proved Bobby was Ians.

I feel sorry for Martin, I know he is a fool but he loves Stacey and "his son" Arthur

I am hoping that Arthur will be Martin's

Rear window
08-01-2016, 20:44
When my elder brother was born, my dad went and registered the birth without even asking my mum what name he should be given.



P.S. You can read about this and how this incident led to me being named the way I was in a certain book which came out last March! :p
what book!

Rear window
08-01-2016, 20:44
When my elder brother was born, my dad went and registered the birth without even asking my mum what name he should be given.



P.S. You can read about this and how this incident led to me being named the way I was in a certain book which came out last March! :p
what book!

Dazzle
09-01-2016, 00:09
what book!

Parkerman's a successful author! This is his latest book (and is the one he mentions above), which I've read and highly recommend:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1784181234?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

lizann
09-01-2016, 00:44
what book!

50 shades of jacobs grey :p

lizann
09-01-2016, 00:44
what book!

50 shades of jacobs grey :p

Rear window
09-01-2016, 09:40
Parkerman's a successful author! This is his latest book (and is the one he mentions above), which I've read and highly recommend:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1784181234?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links (\"http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1784181234?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links\")

Aint he' just!

Rear window
09-01-2016, 09:40
Parkerman's a successful author! This is his latest book (and is the one he mentions above), which I've read and highly recommend:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1784181234?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links (\"http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1784181234?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links\")

Aint he' just!

parkerman
09-01-2016, 14:15
Parkerman's a successful author! This is his latest book (and is the one he mentions above), which I've read and highly recommend:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1784181234?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links (\\"http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1784181234?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links\\")

How do you fancy being my agent, Dazzle? :)

tammyy2j
11-01-2016, 20:44
Shirley is more interested in helping Phil with his problems than mending her own family apologising to Mick, Linda and their kids :angry: I know Mick and Linda are away on honeymoon but Shirley has to make amends and redeem herself imo

Rear window
11-01-2016, 20:56
i hate roof scenes.

well done martin but now stacey needs help, proper help!

Dazzle
11-01-2016, 22:19
i hate roof scenes.

I really thought Stacey was going to fall! :eek:


well done martin but now stacey needs help, proper help!

Has he called for medical help? I thought he must have from the guilty looks, but I can only remember him calling the police when she was missing. It doesn't make sense that he wouldn't seek urgent help. He must know where Stacey keeps her mental health team contact details so I'm assuming he's either made a call off screen he's just waiting for her to fall asleep. :hmm:

These past few episodes set all on one day have been excellent, but I'm ready for the day to end now.

flappinfanny
11-01-2016, 23:27
A good episode to start the week, The way Belinda was dressed was way ott even for her. Carli Norris is a talented actor but I would have much prefered to have had Lynn or Little Mo come back.

The only real niggle with the episode was the fact we lost some of the momentum from Thursday, waiting three days for the next episode was a shame. Nice scenes with Patrick and Billy.

I think 2016 could be the year Phil dies and perhaps Grant will return for this???

flappinfanny
11-01-2016, 23:29
Rakhee who plays Shabnam imo is one of the few actors in soap, who makes it so natural and effortless, its as though she is not acting if you know what I mean. The only other actor in EE that had this skill was Lindsey Coulson and in CS Alison King. Rakhee is simply the best actor in soapland right now by a country mile.

Dazzle
12-01-2016, 00:21
I think 2016 could be the year Phil dies and perhaps Grant will return for this???

I think there's little chance of Phil being killed off. Even if Steve McFadden decided to leave permanently, I'm sure they'd leave the door open in case he changed his mind.

Perhaps a near death experience will drastically change Phil for the better? We can only hope...


Rakhee who plays Shabnam imo is one of the few actors in soap, who makes it so natural and effortless, its as though she is not acting if you know what I mean. The only other actor in EE that had this skill was Lindsey Coulson and in CS Alison King. Rakhee is simply the best actor in soapland right now by a country mile.

I agree about Rakhee Thakrar. Like Lindsay Coulson, she can show emotions bubbling away under the surface with just a look in the eye.

storyseeker1
12-01-2016, 00:27
I don't think Martin's called for help with Stacey. He called the police, but he asked someone to call them back after Stacey had been found, to tell them. He hasn't called anyone yet about her mental health. I'm not sure, but I think Martin's one of those people who hides behind the truth, and doesn't see the problems that are right there. He probably thinks he can deal with Stacey and her mentality, and that she'll get better in time. And I'm sorry, but that proves without a shadow of a doubt that Martin is a complete moron! What Stacey did, he should be calling the doctors right now! She was still blabbering about God and everything when he brought her home, which proves how disturbed she is.

Dazzle
12-01-2016, 00:41
I don't think Martin's called for help with Stacey. He called the police, but he asked someone to call them back after Stacey had been found, to tell them. He hasn't called anyone yet about her mental health. I'm not sure, but I think Martin's one of those people who hides behind the truth, and doesn't see the problems that are right there. He probably thinks he can deal with Stacey and her mentality, and that she'll get better in time. And I'm sorry, but that proves without a shadow of a doubt that Martin is a complete moron! What Stacey did, he should be calling the doctors right now! She was still blabbering about God and everything when he brought her home, which proves how disturbed she is.

I just can't believe Martin would be that stupid! He knows all about her illness and even called the police for goodness sake. If he hasn't, or doesn't intend to, call for help he's as deluded as she is! :wall:

Rear window
12-01-2016, 08:46
I just can't believe Martin would be that stupid! He knows all about her illness and even called the police for goodness sake. If he hasn't, or doesn't intend to, call for help he's as deluded as she is! :wall:

I'd like to think that if a vulnerable person was reported missing and was found that it wouldn't be the end of it, but suspect budgets are such that they will not have even assisted in a search.

But if the upshot of this story is that Kush and Shabs get to look after the baby (at least for a while) then Stacey as to be completely unfit and so does Martin. Stacey is now and worryingly Martin is being a complete pillock.

Rear window
12-01-2016, 08:46
I just can't believe Martin would be that stupid! He knows all about her illness and even called the police for goodness sake. If he hasn't, or doesn't intend to, call for help he's as deluded as she is! :wall:

I'd like to think that if a vulnerable person was reported missing and was found that it wouldn't be the end of it, but suspect budgets are such that they will not have even assisted in a search.

But if the upshot of this story is that Kush and Shabs get to look after the baby (at least for a while) then Stacey as to be completely unfit and so does Martin. Stacey is now and worryingly Martin is being a complete pillock.

parkerman
12-01-2016, 08:53
How did Belinda get there so quick?

Dazzle
12-01-2016, 09:49
But if the upshot of this story is that Kush and Shabs get to look after the baby (at least for a while) then Stacey as to be completely unfit and so does Martin. Stacey is now and worryingly Martin is being a complete pillock.

I was aghast at the thought of Shabnam and Kush taking Arthur from Martin while Stacey's incapacitated. However, he doesn't seem capable of caring for a baby if he's trying to delude himself Stacey's psychosis isn't happening. :wall:


How did Belinda get there so quick?

From the way she was dressed it looked like she'd been on a night out (presumably close by?).

flappinfanny
12-01-2016, 13:03
I just can't believe Martin would be that stupid! He knows all about her illness and even called the police for goodness sake. If he hasn't, or doesn't intend to, call for help he's as deluded as she is! :wall:

Perhaps Martin is buying into the Nativity story like Stacey and he is infact Joseph to Stacey's Mary. :)

tammyy2j
12-01-2016, 13:48
I think Martin is confused and conflicted as he knows she will likely be sectioned and with Charlie's death too, he wants to protect Stacey and his son Arthur but she needs help

Perdita
12-01-2016, 14:14
I think Martin is confused and conflicted as he knows she will likely be sectioned and with Charlie's death too, he wants to protect Stacey and his son Arthur but she needs help

To be honest, I would feel totally overwhelmed if I was in Martin´s shoes .. I hope he will go and seek help very soon for all of them

Dazzle
12-01-2016, 14:30
Although Martin probably wouldn't have expected something as extreme as what's happened, he was well aware Stacey was off her meds and that he needed to be on the alert for a decline in her mental health. This makes his inaction more inexplicable to me than someone for whom psychosis has come out of nowhere.

Perdita
12-01-2016, 15:04
Although Martin probably wouldn't have expected something as extreme as what's happened, he was well aware Stacey was off her meds and that he needed to be on the alert for a decline in her mental health. This makes his inaction more inexplicable to me than someone for whom psychosis has come out of nowhere. But until you have seen what a decline in mental health can be like, it can be difficult to imagine just how far the mental health will decline and what the patient is going to do?

Splashy
12-01-2016, 19:52
:cartman:
Although Martin probably wouldn't have expected something as extreme as what's happened, he was well aware Stacey was off her meds and that he needed to be on the alert for a decline in her mental health. This makes his inaction more inexplicable to me than someone for whom psychosis has come out of nowhere.

Martin has zero understanding of mental illness. He should of called 999 explained off meds new mother and an ambulance would of been sent. He seems ashamed of her now, hope she boots him the plank.

flappinfanny
12-01-2016, 23:18
A great script from Daran Little tonight. Jessie was superb, if I had to be slightly critical in the odd place Jessie was slightly ott, but she is forgiven, you could feel her pain and Shane Richie, stepped up to the mark tonight, not usually an Alfie fan (well not since his second stint) but both Alfie and Kat were brilliant. For me yet again the stand out performer has to be shabnam. Rakhee makes it look so easy and effortless without having to try. Flawless.

I wonder how long EE's good form will continue? Hopefully a while longer. :hmm:

Dazzle
13-01-2016, 03:46
But until you have seen what a decline in mental health can be like, it can be difficult to imagine just how far the mental health will decline and what the patient is going to do?

Martin has accused Stacy of having an episode at least once since she's been off her meds when in fact she was just having a strop if I recall. It's been made crystal clear he's not happy she stopped taking the medication and is paranoid about her mental health. He's even been shown researching bipolar.

Now she's babbling incoherently about Arthur being the son of God, seeing angels and demons, and nearly falling off rooftops with the baby, and Martin is pretending she's OK and leaving her alone with him. Martin would have to be an imbecile to not recognise that as a very severe decline in mental health, and that she's a danger to Arthur and herself. He might not be the sharpest tool in the box but he's not stupid, and it's totally unbelievable and highly frustrating to me that he wouldn't have sought help straight away.

Give me a break DTC!!! :wall:

Perdita
13-01-2016, 10:54
I miss a lot of EE so was not aware of Martin´s knowledge about Stacey´s illnes. But I still think that even with a lot of research into conditions it can still feel overwhelming when actually confronted with it :(

Dazzle
13-01-2016, 11:36
It must be an unimaginably overwhelming situation to be in and I can understand Martin not wanting to scare Stacey even more than she is already. Why doesn't he at least seek the advice of someone who will know what to do, and make sure she's not left alone with Arthur in the meantime? Surely it must have occurred to him that she's a danger to the baby as well as to herself?

I think I might take a break from EE until this is resolved. I've just been reading next week's Radio Times, and Stacey still hasn't received help by the end of next week even though by that time it's Charlie's funeral and her condition is openly known.Post partum psychosis is thankfully very rare and mothers suffering the condition who kill their babies is even rarer, but we've all seen the headlines in the news (like the recent one where a young mother in Bristol jumped off a cliff with her newborn baby :(). I'm finding it too distressing and frustrating to watch the people around Stacey doing nothing, even if it is realistic. They don't need to have any knowledge of post partum psychosis to know something is very, very wrong.

tammyy2j
13-01-2016, 11:56
I was aghast at the thought of Shabnam and Kush taking Arthur from Martin while Stacey's incapacitated. However, he doesn't seem capable of caring for a baby if he's trying to delude himself Stacey's psychosis isn't happening. :wall:



From the way she was dressed it looked like she'd been on a night out (presumably close by?).

Belinda looked dressed for the funeral already :p

Mo rang her so she must live nearby

Is Belinda married?

I feel I am watching 24 as we still are not on a new day in Eastenders :p

parkerman
13-01-2016, 13:14
Belinda looked dressed for the funeral already :p

Mo rang her so she must live nearby

Is Belinda married?

I feel I am watching 24 as we still are not on a new day in Eastenders :p
Belinda is married to Neville. She said they were on their way to a Masonic do when Mo rang and happened to be nearby.

lizann
13-01-2016, 16:12
martin should call jean at least and then stacey's doctor

tammyy2j
14-01-2016, 11:57
Alfie has great timing, telling Kat like that after her dad just died

Rear window
14-01-2016, 12:01
martin should call jean at least and then stacey's doctor

Yes - the fact he's not got her any help at all. Or perhaps more to the point do we not have health visitors these days? (Oh how I disliked mine!) - and someone with mental health issues would surely have someone checking on her.

It's SO frustrating.

Rear window
14-01-2016, 12:01
martin should call jean at least and then stacey's doctor

Yes - the fact he's not got her any help at all. Or perhaps more to the point do we not have health visitors these days? (Oh how I disliked mine!) - and someone with mental health issues would surely have someone checking on her.

It's SO frustrating.

Perdita
14-01-2016, 12:01
Guess when you have a brain tumour, no time will ever be the right time and time is of essence :(

Dazzle
14-01-2016, 12:18
Or perhaps more to the point do we not have health visitors these days? (Oh how I disliked mine!) - and someone with mental health issues would surely have someone checking on her.

Good point! My daughter had a baby nearly exactly a year ago and stayed with me the first week after the birth. We had at least two visits from professionals (a midwife and possibly a health visitor?) during that time and my daughter has no health or other problems. Stacey is known to be bipolar and off her meds, so surely they'd be keeping a very close eye on her?

tammyy2j
14-01-2016, 12:33
Good point! My daughter had a baby nearly exactly a year ago and stayed with me the first week after the birth. We had at least two visits from professionals (a midwife and possibly a health visitor?) during that time and my daughter has no health problems. Stacey is known to be bipolar and off her meds, so surely they'd be keeping a very close eye on her?

Who was the social worker always after Lola and Lexi

flappinfanny
14-01-2016, 20:19
Line of the night goes to Sharon "Hurry up and die, save me the expense of divorcing ya". Letitia was on fire tonight. Ian is a slime ball.

However the best scenes for me were between Kush and Shabnam. I really hope the public vote for Rakhee for the best serial drama performance at the National Television Awards as she really deserves to win. She is a cut above, she really is.

Perdita
14-01-2016, 20:32
Who was the social worker always after Lola and Lexi

Arthur is not Phil´s family so no social workers get involved

Perdita
14-01-2016, 20:32
Who was the social worker always after Lola and Lexi

Arthur is not Phil´s family so no social workers get involved

parkerman
14-01-2016, 23:22
Ian is a slime ball.



Couldn't agree more. He is despicable.

Anyway, it was a good job Phil had the keys to that car on the forecourt.......

storyseeker1
15-01-2016, 00:49
Ian is a slime ball.

Can't argue with that. He's definitely had his slimy moments in EE. Though I can understand some of his motives with protecting Bobby. He's just too blind to the danger that Bobby represents, and all the protecting he's done for him has gone too far. If the truth comes out now, not only will he lose Bobby, but he'll lose everything else including his and Jane's freedom.

Oh, I'm so sick to death of the Bobby storyline! I mean, I suspected that the truth wouldn't come out at Xmas, as that seems to be EE's gimmick now, and Jake Wood (Max) isn't due back for several months yet, but it's gone on way too long now. I can't believe they're keeping it going as long as they have.

lizann
15-01-2016, 20:19
peggy staying quiet very unlike her and then reveals her cancer back

parkerman
15-01-2016, 21:48
Bit of a shock tonight....seeing Winston outside the Queen Vic.

tammyy2j
16-01-2016, 22:49
So much doom and gloom, misery and sad times in EastEnders, no humour anymore even Tamwar has changed and Fatboy is missed :thumbsdow

I am not looking forward to Peggy's death, will she stay living with Sal or return to die in her beloved Vic, Mick could rent it to her

I want loudmouth feisty Peggy back to battle Claudette

Phil was able to spot Louise straight away in sports hall of her school even drunk as he was and with her grown up new look

I thought Phil was speaking to Lisa not Peggy at first

flappinfanny
16-01-2016, 22:56
Can't argue with that. He's definitely had his slimy moments in EE. Though I can understand some of his motives with protecting Bobby. He's just too blind to the danger that Bobby represents, and all the protecting he's done for him has gone too far. If the truth comes out now, not only will he lose Bobby, but he'll lose everything else including his and Jane's freedom.

Oh, I'm so sick to death of the Bobby storyline! I mean, I suspected that the truth wouldn't come out at Xmas, as that seems to be EE's gimmick now, and Jake Wood (Max) isn't due back for several months yet, but it's gone on way too long now. I can't believe they're keeping it going as long as they have.

But then again days in Walford seem to go on for ever. We have been stuck in the same night the beginning of January for over a week. :D

flappinfanny
16-01-2016, 22:58
What's all this montage music about? Not needed. I actually thought Windsor was good tonight, mainly because she hardly spoke. Quite sad at the end when Phil said he was also dying.

tammyy2j
16-01-2016, 23:00
Could Phil get Peggy's liver or depending on where her cancer is and spread to, she could not donate, can cancer suffers donate?

storyseeker1
16-01-2016, 23:50
Could Phil get Peggy's liver or depending on where her cancer is and spread to, she could not donate, can cancer suffers donate?

I'm assuming it's breast cancer, as that's what she had before, and she did say "It's back". Dunno about donating.

lizann
17-01-2016, 19:57
What's all this montage music about? Not needed. I actually thought Windsor was good tonight, mainly because she hardly spoke. Quite sad at the end when Phil said he was also dying.

i read that first as winston good tonight :lol:

parkerman
17-01-2016, 20:33
i read that first as winston good tonight :lol:
Winston is always good.

Dazzle
17-01-2016, 22:35
Just caught up on last week's episodes.

Thursday's was another tour de force by writer Daran Little. The scenes between Sharon & Phil, Sharon & Ian, and Shabnam and Kush were all excellent. I'm so glad Sharon's stopped being Phil's doormat, but is it a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire if she's going to allow herself (and Denny) to get closer to Gavin? :searchme:

Good on Shabnam for making Kush see he wants to be a father to Arthur!

I'm really annoyed with myself for getting behind in my viewing so that Peggy's appearance and the news of her terminal cancer were spoiled for me! :angry:

Friday's episode belonged to Steve McFadden, who proved yet again why he's underrated as Phil Mitchell. Did I detect the way Phil's story is going to develop in Kathy's words to Ben that his father isn't really a thug deep down? Interesting take on Phil and it certainly fits in with the fact that he used to be a much nicer guy. Does that side of Phil even exist any more, and will his loved ones care even if it does? :hmm:

parkerman
17-01-2016, 22:51
in Kathy's words to Ben that his father isn't really a thug deep down? Interesting take on Phil and it certainly fits in with the fact that he used to be a much nicer guy.

I must have missed that episode, Dazzle. In which one was he a nice guy?:hmm::)

Dazzle
17-01-2016, 22:58
I must have missed that episode, Dazzle. In which one was he a nice guy?:hmm::)

:D

Way back when Grant was full on psycho, Phil was the nicer brother (which was why Sharon had the affair with him). It's all relative though and I'm using the term "nice" in the loosest sense possible of course. :p

maidmarian
17-01-2016, 23:04
:D

Way back when Grant was full on psycho, Phil was the nicer brother (which was why Sharon had the affair with him). It's all relative though and I'm using the term "nice" in the loosest sense possible of course. :p

Im not a PM fan*-but I can still remember the
romantic scene by Seine?? when he first got
together with Kathyg:heart:

* or a romantic-except in real life!!

Dazzle
17-01-2016, 23:10
Im not a PM fan*-but I can still remember the
romantic scene by Seine?? when he first got
together with Kathyg:heart:

Yes, I believe it was during his marriage to Kathy that Phil started to change for the worse. Someone on another site said it happened because of the guilt of unintentionally killing a man when he burned down the car lot. I can't remember his reaction in detail but it sounds about right to me.

lizann
18-01-2016, 00:03
Yes, I believe it was during his marriage to Kathy that Phil started to change for the worse. Someone on another site said it happened because of the guilt of unintentionally killing a man when he burned down the car lot. I can't remember his reaction in detail but it sounds about right to me.

did kathy not cheat on phil with grant

lizann
18-01-2016, 00:03
Yes, I believe it was during his marriage to Kathy that Phil started to change for the worse. Someone on another site said it happened because of the guilt of unintentionally killing a man when he burned down the car lot. I can't remember his reaction in detail but it sounds about right to me.

did kathy not cheat on phil with grant

Dazzle
18-01-2016, 00:05
did kathy not cheat on phil with grant

I think that was after the marriage was over?

lizann
18-01-2016, 00:15
I think that was after the marriage was over?

was it, was not really sure

i cant see phil as a romantic sensitive soul :p

lizann
18-01-2016, 00:15
I think that was after the marriage was over?

was it, was not really sure

i cant see phil as a romantic sensitive soul :p

parkerman
18-01-2016, 10:17
From what I remember, the marriage between Kathy and Phil was over in name (not sure if they had an actual divorce) when Grant had a fling with Kathy. Phil then tried to get back with Kathy, but Grant took great delight in telling him about him and Kathy and said it was pay back for Phil and Sharon.

Something like that.

sarah c
18-01-2016, 13:42
I'm assuming it's breast cancer, as that's what she had before, and she did say "It's back". Dunno about donating.

secondary breast cancer often spreads to the liver - and brain, so Peggy would probably not be able to donate

tammyy2j
18-01-2016, 18:50
From what I remember, the marriage between Kathy and Phil was over in name (not sure if they had an actual divorce) when Grant had a fling with Kathy. Phil then tried to get back with Kathy, but Grant took great delight in telling him about him and Kathy and said it was pay back for Phil and Sharon.

Something like that.

Was Ben born then, could he be Grant's son

Perdita
18-01-2016, 19:14
Ben was born after that, too late for Grant to be his dad if I remember correctly but of course, as this is EastEnders, anything is possible :)

lizann
18-01-2016, 20:13
sharon has gavin saved as dad on her phone, is this soon

babe and paddy, romance on horizon

parkerman
18-01-2016, 22:37
babe and paddy, romance on horizon
Only in Babe's dreams.

lizann
18-01-2016, 22:45
Only in Babe's dreams.

or paddy's nightmares

lizann
18-01-2016, 22:45
Only in Babe's dreams.

or paddy's nightmares

flappinfanny
18-01-2016, 23:38
Winston is always good.

I think Shrimpy is trying to get top spot! :)

flappinfanny
18-01-2016, 23:41
Ben was born after that, too late for Grant to be his dad if I remember correctly but of course, as this is EastEnders, anything is possible :)

I hope DTC and that Lamb bloke don't read this thread. :D

lizann
18-01-2016, 23:43
charlies angels drunk phil has some good lines

flappinfanny
18-01-2016, 23:50
Loved Phil's saying to Kathy, Sharon and Shirley, "oh 'ere they are Charlie's Angel's" and even funnier when Vincent said "more like The Golden Girls." :lol:

Moving scenes with Kat and Charlie and Lacey Turner was excellent again. All in all a good episode.

flappinfanny
18-01-2016, 23:51
Just seen your post lizann, great minds. :)

lizann
18-01-2016, 23:57
how has kat not sussed stacey is ill even sonia has and martin wont admit it

Dazzle
19-01-2016, 00:15
how has kat not sussed stacey is ill even sonia has and martin wont admit it

I just can't watch the Stacey scenes any more because I'm finding everyone ignoring her distress too uncomfortable. I'm not sure if I'll watch tomorrow's episode since it sounds like she features heavily.

Apart from that it was a good episode tonight, especially the ruckus Phil caused in the pub. I enjoyed Sharon, Shirley and Kathy - the wronged wives - joining forces to try to sort him out. Sharon's now gone and walked straight into the clutches of her "loving" father... :eek:

I'm liking Louise so far and I thought her admiring glance towards Jay was probably foreshadowing something we've discussed in the spoiler threads. It seems like she's still scared of Ben after he bullied her last time they were together.

Rear window
19-01-2016, 10:02
Sonia to the rescue? She's a nurse, she will get them some proper help? If she doesn't then I might have to stop watching EE.

Splashy
19-01-2016, 10:23
I just can't watch the Stacey scenes any more because I'm finding everyone ignoring her distress too uncomfortable. I'm not sure if I'll watch tomorrow's episode since it sounds like she features heavily.

Apart from that it was a good episode tonight, especially the ruckus Phil caused in the pub. I enjoyed Sharon, Shirley and Kathy - the wronged wives - joining forces to try to sort him out. Sharon's now gone and walked straight into the clutches of her "loving" father... :eek:

I'm liking Louise so far and I thought her admiring glance towards Jay was probably foreshadowing something we've discussed in the spoiler threads. It seems like she's still scared of Ben after he bullied her last time they were together.

So agree.

I have mental health issues and had to leave my long term partner as she was incapable of understanding it, just kept getting angry etc telling me to just get over it.

Martin knows her condition knows shes off meds but first off he was obliviously thick now hes in this weird denial that she dosent need help and worse still after climbing on the roof she is still safe to care for the baby unsupervised.

I shes sectioned now and put back on meds even if that stops feeding. The kid needs stacy as all hells going to follow over paturnity.

As for Mo the child snatcher, the s/l is horriblely dark.

Well done EE, great eps and acting.

Splashy
19-01-2016, 10:23
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Dazzle
19-01-2016, 10:26
Sonia to the rescue? She's a nurse, she will get them some proper help? If she doesn't then I might have to stop watching EE.

It'd be nice to think Sonia would come to Stacey's rescue, but I don't know if she'd interfere against Martin's wishes.

Rear window
19-01-2016, 10:33
It'd be nice to think Sonia would come to Stacey's rescue, but I don't know if she'd interfere against Martin's wishes.

I would hope she would ignore what Martin's wishes were and do what's best for a new baby and it's mother. Martin's told her enough to set huge alarm bells ringing.

Rear window
19-01-2016, 10:33
It'd be nice to think Sonia would come to Stacey's rescue, but I don't know if she'd interfere against Martin's wishes.

I would hope she would ignore what Martin's wishes were and do what's best for a new baby and it's mother. Martin's told her enough to set huge alarm bells ringing.

Dazzle
19-01-2016, 10:34
So agree.

I have mental health issues and had to leave my long term partner as she was incapable of understanding it, just kept getting angry etc telling me to just get over it.

Sorry to hear that, Splashy.

I have mental health problems too, which is why I'm finding Stacey's illness and Martin's attitude so difficult to watch. Her distress feels a bit too close to home to me. Kudos to Lacey Turner for portraying Stacey's state of mind so realistically.

Splashy
19-01-2016, 10:57
Sorry to hear that, Splashy.

I have mental health problems too, which is why I'm finding Stacey's illness and Martin's attitude so difficult to watch. Her distress feels a bit too close to home to me. Kudos to Lacey Turner for portraying Stacey's state of mind so realistically.

Yeah I feel like that too. But the realistic ignorance of mental welfare holds me in, he makes me so angry, the time he was called by the bod in the cafe to say she was safe and where she was and all the tool did was destroy her trust in the bod, what a tool. :wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall: