View Full Version : Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII
but you cant be complaining about people being up and about instead of in bed.....when you are up and about instead of in bed!!
pot, kettle and a dark colour....
well, you can't be in bed when you are travelling :D
but you cant be complaining about people being up and about instead of in bed.....when you are up and about instead of in bed!!
pot, kettle and a dark colour....
well, you can't be in bed when you are travelling :D
Sincere apols guys ,should have been posted in spoilers, lesson learnt.
sorry, it is such a long time ago I used them, I kind of forgot. put [spoiler] before text, then [ /spoiler] at end of text but without the space
sorry, it is such a long time ago I used them, I kind of forgot. put [spoiler] before text, then [ /spoiler] at end of text but without the space
Many thanks for the assistance Perdita, with my level of computer illiteracy, best I put comments in the right slot at the start , or I shall probably end nausing it again.
sorry, it is such a long time ago I used them, I kind of forgot. put [spoiler] before text, then [ /spoiler] at end of text but without the space
Many thanks for the assistance Perdita, with my level of computer illiteracy, best I put comments in the right slot at the start , or I shall probably end nausing it again.
megan999
09-11-2012, 13:27
There's no episode of EE on Friday 16th November because of Children In Need.
tammyy2j
09-11-2012, 16:31
Syed gave up Yasmin easily he must only have wanted her if it meant getting Christian back
parkerman
09-11-2012, 17:41
Or he could have at last realised what a waster he is and knew that it would be much better for Yasmin if she was brought up by Amira. Could be the first decent thing he's ever done in his life. And that's because he really does love Yasmin.
Dennis tanner
11-11-2012, 02:20
Or he could have at last realised what a waster he is and knew that it would be much better for Yasmin if she was brought up by Amira. Could be the first decent thing he's ever done in his life. And that's because he really does love Yasmin.
All true
flappinfanny
11-11-2012, 20:19
looking forward to ee next week. a lot of the eps will be revolving around the brilliant ann mitchell. one of the countries finest actors.
Dennis tanner
11-11-2012, 22:21
looking forward to ee next week. a lot of the eps will be revolving around the brilliant ann mitchell. one of the countries finest actors.
BIB I disagree. She always plays the same sort of part. One trick pony:nono:
flappinfanny
13-11-2012, 23:02
we are not going to see eye to eye on this one, so as they say, moving swiftly on.
enjoyed dereks scenes tonight, when he met up with his old flame. made me chuckle. he is good at the lighter scenes. :)
JustJodi
16-11-2012, 01:10
Well bye Christian and Syed,,, glad they left together,, it was a good episode. At least they left as a HAPPY COUPLE,,
Dennis tanner
16-11-2012, 16:17
Well bye Christian and Syed,,, glad they left together,, it was a good episode. At least they left as a HAPPY COUPLE,,
I can't see it lasting though:nono::nono::nono:
We shall see when in a couple of years one of them returns alone :)
flappinfanny
17-11-2012, 13:08
good set of eps from ee. loved ann mitchells scenes.
shame about the ratings. :(
Dennis tanner
17-11-2012, 15:14
good set of eps from ee. loved ann mitchells scenes.
shame about the ratings. :(
I rated it as average which is not a bad thing
tammyy2j
21-11-2012, 16:31
Joey loves Lauren already now that is fast
JustJodi
21-11-2012, 21:58
Joey loves Lauren already now that is fast
kissin cousins .... read this link Tammy ( in the USA ) http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriagelicenses/a/cousin.htm
parkerman
22-11-2012, 09:41
Very interesting. Thanks Jodi. I wonder if there is a lot of movement of cousins looking for a state where they can get married...and have children.
JustJodi
22-11-2012, 11:31
Very interesting. Thanks Jodi. I wonder if there is a lot of movement of cousins looking for a state where they can get married...and have children.
I had a horrible crush on my 3rd cousin ( I think ) he only came to visit once a year, but oh me and my sister had horrible crushes on him,, the older he got the better looking WE THOUGHT HE GOT lol,, I would think it is illegal any where for 1st cousins to have kids ,,, not sure about the 2nd or 3rd just the same I find it a bit distasteful,,, sorta like incest ?????
Thats just my 2 euro cents,,,
Anyway I have a feeling this "relationship" is not going any where any way due to the fact no one on EE is ALLOWED,, to have a "decent" relationship LOL
tammyy2j
23-11-2012, 16:55
I quite enjoyed EE last night some good funny moments and banter and Ava and Cora come face to face and Derek sees Joey and Lauren kissing
I find Poppy tolerable this time around and her and Fatboy are sweet together
tammyy2j
23-11-2012, 16:56
.
flappinfanny
24-11-2012, 18:08
I had a horrible crush on my 3rd cousin ( I think ) he only came to visit once a year, but oh me and my sister had horrible crushes on him,, the older he got the better looking WE THOUGHT HE GOT lol,, I would think it is illegal any where for 1st cousins to have kids ,,, not sure about the 2nd or 3rd just the same I find it a bit distasteful,,, sorta like incest ?????
Thats just my 2 euro cents,,,
Anyway I have a feeling this "relationship" is not going any where any way due to the fact no one on EE is ALLOWED,, to have a "decent" relationship LOL
there are rumours they may not be cousins!! it could be brookie in the eastend :love:
Dutchgirl
28-11-2012, 16:16
Ann Mitchell is amazing.....
Dennis tanner
28-11-2012, 16:55
Ann Mitchell is amazing.....
I am not a fan of any of the Mitchells
tammyy2j
28-11-2012, 18:01
I am not a fan of any of the Mitchells
She plays Cora Cross on the show
Tanya should tell Max the truth
Mo was quick to let Derek rent the house
tammyy2j
28-11-2012, 18:01
Will "Fattyboy" move in with the Massods now
Dennis tanner
28-11-2012, 19:00
She plays Cora Cross on the show She's still a Mitchell:thumbsdow
Mo was quick to let Derek rent the house Derek should know that he doesn't have to pay her any rent as it's a council house
tammyy2j
29-11-2012, 22:59
Derek or Jack seems to have a bit of cash so one of them must have sent the cash to Alfie to go to Germany so they can have some alone time with Kat
JustJodi
30-11-2012, 07:17
Derek or Jack seems to have a bit of cash so one of them must have sent the cash to Alfie to go to Germany so they can have some alone time with Kat
And both of them seem to have time on their hands too..they do not have any women in their lives,,, well Jack has Sharon but she is busy flitting between Phil and Jack hmmmm Max is busy with Tan and the kids ( but that didn't stop him from messing around with Stacey) Max could be Dereks source of EXTRA money since he is always taking money off of Max for something he did while they were together, so Derek really has all the extra cash to splash around. Hmmmmmm,,,3 Branning brothers.. either one could be the guy on the side...
parkerman
30-11-2012, 10:44
Very important Eastenders news. I hope no-one missed it.
Winston spoke last night!!!! Even though we only saw the back of him.
parkerman
30-11-2012, 10:44
Very important Eastenders news. I hope no-one missed it.
Winston spoke last night!!!! Even though we only saw the back of him.
Dennis tanner
30-11-2012, 16:07
Very important Eastenders news. I hope no-one missed it.
Winston spoke last night!!!! Even though we only saw the back of him.
Did he say, " We shall fight then on the beaches " ?
parkerman
30-11-2012, 16:19
No, not even we shall fight them on the beaches....
No, not even we shall fight them on the beaches....
Ever the pedant
:)
No, not even we shall fight them on the beaches....
Ever the pedant
:)
parkerman
30-11-2012, 17:34
Ever the pedant
:)
My wife says she is going to put "Died a pedant" on my gravestone...
parkerman
30-11-2012, 17:34
Ever the pedant
:)
My wife says she is going to put "Died a pedant" on my gravestone...
how annoying is tanya no wonder cora and lauren drink so much
megan999
01-12-2012, 12:35
how annoying is tanya no wonder cora and lauren drink so much
Agreed. It's like the Tanya Cross show these days!
megan999
01-12-2012, 12:35
When on earth is Kat's storyline going to end? At this rate it will end at Christmas time!!
parkerman
01-12-2012, 13:14
When on earth is Kat's storyline going to end? At this rate it will end at Christmas time!!
With an explosive shock revelation that will rock the Square....
parkerman
01-12-2012, 13:14
When on earth is Kat's storyline going to end? At this rate it will end at Christmas time!!
With an explosive shock revelation that will rock the Square....
flappinfanny
01-12-2012, 13:34
megan im afraid you will have to wait until christmas!! only 3 weeks on tuesday, not long now. :)
Dennis tanner
01-12-2012, 15:55
No, not even we shall fight them on the beaches....
That's what he meant to say
megan999
12-12-2012, 13:52
I am getting tired of Lola/Phil/Sharon storyline now. Am even preferring Kat's storyline, now that Alfie knows about her affair and is piecing everything together......slowly:wall:
Dennis tanner
12-12-2012, 15:43
I am getting tired of Lola/Phil/Sharon storyline now. Am even preferring Kat's storyline, now that Alfie knows about her affair and is piecing everything together......slowly:wall:
Why does Alfie need to piece anything together. He knows that she has affairs and that he can't trust her. She told him herself ages ago.
Dennis tanner
12-12-2012, 15:43
I am getting tired of Lola/Phil/Sharon storyline now. Am even preferring Kat's storyline, now that Alfie knows about her affair and is piecing everything together......slowly:wall:
Why does Alfie need to piece anything together. He knows that she has affairs and that he can't trust her. She told him herself ages ago.
megan999
13-12-2012, 13:07
~~~~~~
megan999
13-12-2012, 13:07
Why does Alfie need to piece anything together. He knows that she has affairs and that he can't trust her. She told him herself ages ago.
Yes, but he wants to work out the identity of her latest mystery man! And the viewers want to know too, apparently.....I'm hoping it's Derek....because Jack is too thick to go though the whole secret affair saga, and I like Max's character and I want him and Tanya to have a happy ending for once:wub:
LostVoodoo
18-12-2012, 16:33
This Bianca and Lola storyline in the salon is driving me mad. Surely they're being 'employed' illegally, you can't have someone just earning tips!
parkerman
18-12-2012, 16:55
Minimum wage legislation applies.
i have to admit i'm starting to like derek shame he gets killed off soon loved his line to sharon to take a chill pill
tanya has forgot about max's past affairs especially with stacey
i have to admit i'm starting to like derek shame he gets killed off soon loved his line to sharon to take a chill pill
tanya has forgot about max's past affairs especially with stacey
Dennis tanner
18-12-2012, 22:30
i have to admit i'm starting to like derek shame he gets killed off soon loved his line to sharon to take a chill pill
tanya has forgot about max's past affairs especially with stacey
It's bad when we can remember far more than the characters can.:thumbsdow
parkerman
19-12-2012, 06:58
.....now read on....
parkerman
19-12-2012, 06:58
i have to admit i'm starting to like derek shame he gets killed off soon loved his line to sharon to take a chill pill
tanya has forgot about max's past affairs especially with stacey
She also forgot she once buried him alive!
Talking of forgetting things, is it me or has Alice forgotten her mother? All this talk of the family "being together" for Christmas, wouldn't Alice want to see her mother at Christmas? Or have I forgotten something?
Dennis tanner
19-12-2012, 14:10
She also forgot she once buried him alive!
Talking of forgetting things, is it me or has Alice forgotten her mother? All this talk of the family "being together" for Christmas, wouldn't Alice want to see her mother at Christmas? Or have I forgotten something?
Alice lost her mother at the same time that she lost her job.:crying: Im any case, she prefers top be on the tele:thumbsup:
parkerman
19-12-2012, 14:18
How did she lose her? Did she leave her on the bus?
That would have been rather careless :eek:
How did she lose her? Did she leave her on the bus?
I thought Alice came looking for derek because she was curious that at home, no one - her mum nor Joey - ever talked about him..?
not because her mum had died?
no shock or surprise it was derek would have been better if was max i liked that little twist for the 2 minutes till kat revealed it was mr. cigar man derek
no shock or surprise it was derek would have been better if was max i liked that little twist for the 2 minutes till kat revealed it was mr. cigar man derek
didnt you just want his fat smug face to be smashed in though!!
Dennis tanner
21-12-2012, 16:33
didnt you just want his fat smug face to be smashed in though!!
Poor Derek
Dennis tanner
21-12-2012, 16:33
didnt you just want his fat smug face to be smashed in though!!
Poor Derek
didnt you just want his fat smug face to be smashed in though!!
Take heart Sarah, Derek should remember,
GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old time is still a-flying :
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Robert Herrick
LostVoodoo
21-12-2012, 20:00
What's more, you can't smoke in pubs! He's a bad 'un, he is!
didnt you just want his fat smug face to be smashed in though!!
yes and alfie did very little damage to him
loved lauren freak out at tanya and then puking :p
didnt you just want his fat smug face to be smashed in though!!
yes and alfie did very little damage to him
loved lauren freak out at tanya and then puking :p
Dennis tanner
22-12-2012, 01:06
yes and alfie did very little damage to him Derek allowed him a free shot
loved lauren freak out at tanya and then puking :p Max should kick her out
Dennis tanner
22-12-2012, 01:06
yes and alfie did very little damage to him Derek allowed him a free shot
loved lauren freak out at tanya and then puking :p Max should kick her out
flappinfanny
22-12-2012, 02:27
ee may have its problems, but boy can they do a reveal. they do this better than any other soap.
msg to ee producers ee is for life and not for christmas. :)
parkerman
22-12-2012, 10:47
yes and alfie did very little damage to him
loved lauren freak out at tanya and then puking :p
I thought Jacqueline Jossa ( Lauren) was really good last night. As was the always excellent Jo Joyner of course.
parkerman
22-12-2012, 10:47
yes and alfie did very little damage to him
loved lauren freak out at tanya and then puking :p
I thought Jacqueline Jossa ( Lauren) was really good last night. As was the always excellent Jo Joyner of course.
JustJodi
22-12-2012, 12:55
I thought Jacqueline Jossa ( Lauren) was really good last night. As was the always excellent Jo Joyner of course.
I thought Jacqueline was just terrific,,I can almost see why they use her alot in most of the story lines, she is an excellent little actress....
Dennis tanner
22-12-2012, 19:38
I thought Jacqueline was just terrific,,I can almost see why they use her alot in most of the story lines, she is an excellent little actress....
She's good at getting drunk:thumbsdow
tammyy2j
23-12-2012, 00:15
ee may have its problems, but boy can they do a reveal. they do this better than any other soap.
msg to ee producers ee is for life and not for christmas. :)
Would have been better if Derek wasnt the obvious choice from the get go, EE should not have released any list of the culprits
Does Derek genuinely love Kat or just want her now as she wants Aflie?
tammyy2j
23-12-2012, 00:15
.
megan999
23-12-2012, 13:01
EastEnders Schedule...........
Monday 24th December (Christmas Eve) 9:00pm - 9:35pm BBC One
Tuesday 25th December (Christmas Day) 8:45pm - 9:45pm BBC One
Wednesday 26th December (Boxing Day) 8:30pm - 9:00pm BBC One
Thursday 27th December 8:00pm - 9:00pm BBC One *make sure to keep tuned as straight after this episode there will be al Red Button episode featuring Poppy and Fatboy
Friday 28th December NO EPISODE
Monday 31st December (New Years Eve) 8:00pm - 8:30pm BBC One
Tuesday 1st January (New Years Day) 8:00pm - 9:00pm BBC One
Thursday 3rd January 7:30pm - 8:00pm BBC One
Friday 4th January 8:00pm - 8:30pm AND 9:00pm - 9:30pm BBC One
Source: EastEnders Official Website
Dennis tanner
23-12-2012, 13:26
Does Derek genuinely love Kat Yes
parkerman
23-12-2012, 14:18
Does Derek genuinely love Kat?
No.
tammyy2j
24-12-2012, 21:11
Kat is an even bigger idiot to go and stay with Derek
Dennis tanner
24-12-2012, 23:18
Kat is an even bigger idiot to go and stay with Derek
It may not be for long. In any case where else can she go in Albert Square
Dennis tanner
24-12-2012, 23:18
Kat is an even bigger idiot to go and stay with Derek
It may not be for long. In any case where else can she go in Albert Square
I was not very much impressed with that ee christmas episode. Anti-climatic surprises galore.
I was not very much impressed with that ee christmas episode. Anti-climatic surprises galore.
me either and derek's death spoiler details were very misleading
so sick of kat and her crying and why did she go with derek to max's place for christmas dinner she didnt have to stay with derek she could have gone to see charlie and moved into the b&b
I was not very much impressed with that ee christmas episode. Anti-climatic surprises galore.
me either and derek's death spoiler details were very misleading
so sick of kat and her crying and why did she go with derek to max's place for christmas dinner she didnt have to stay with derek she could have gone to see charlie and moved into the b&b
flappinfanny
26-12-2012, 00:05
i enjoyed the christmas day ep. i agree it was a bit predictable, but was very watchable and the best of the big 3.
can ee keep up the standard and interest, i very much doubt it. im sure come mid jan it will be back to the norm.
lets enjoy it while it lasts. :)
Dennis tanner
26-12-2012, 15:01
me either and derek's death spoiler details were very misleading
I try not to read spoilers but sometimes you just can't avoid it
Poor Derek's tombstone should read...Head of the Table
Dennis tanner
26-12-2012, 15:01
me either and derek's death spoiler details were very misleading
I try not to read spoilers but sometimes you just can't avoid it
Poor Derek's tombstone should read...Head of the Table
tammyy2j
26-12-2012, 15:14
What an awful episode, Kat goes from having a passionate love affair with Derek to looking repulsed by him when he kissed her yet she moves in with him and accompanies him to his brother's house for Christmas dinner then tells his son leave him to die because he showed Alfie the wrong message ffs Joey shouldnt have listened to her
Max forgave Tanya for buring him alive, Jack for sleeping with Tanya and Lauren for trying to kill him yet cant forgive Derek all he did was invite his wife to his house :p
I half expected Lauren or Alice to drive along and knock Derek down when he was on the road
I agree the pre released spoilers were very misleading actually they were completely wrong
Overall one of the worst ever episodes of Eastenders and worst of all the soaps for Christmas day
Ruffed_lemur
26-12-2012, 16:41
I thought it was the best soap on Christmas day, and the acting was amazing!
Dennis tanner
27-12-2012, 16:07
I thought it was the best soap on Christmas day, and the acting was amazing!
It was a good episode but hardly amazing
Dennis tanner
27-12-2012, 16:07
I thought it was the best soap on Christmas day, and the acting was amazing!
It was a good episode but hardly amazing
JustJodi
27-12-2012, 16:16
she does have MO and Jean,,, but they all live with Alfie,,, now it makes me wonder why on earth did Mo let the Statler home go to Derek ?????????????????? Any way I am sure Mo will take her home back?????
flappinfanny
27-12-2012, 23:35
lindsay coulson and jo joyner were superb in thurs hr long ep. imo lindsay coulson shines in every scene and is one of the best actors on ee. nice to have her back.
megan999
28-12-2012, 15:19
Tanya must have rocks for brains for wanting Max after his secret wife revelation. :wall:
I wish the writers would give Tyler more dialogue!
Did anyone watch the Red Button Episode last night? I thought it was quite sweet.:wub:
i was expecting tanya to cry and say max was hers to kirsty last night :p the show is ruining a once strong character like tanya
where is alice and joey's mother? alice keep saying she had no one her mother is alive isnt she?
i wonder did alfie take on kirsty to work in the pub to get at the brannings he did tell bianca a few weeks back he had no jobs yet employs fatboy, roxy, jean, himself and now kirsty he should take shirley back behind the bar
poor lola if isnt for sharon she has no say or time with lexi because of phil
i was expecting tanya to cry and say max was hers to kirsty last night :p the show is ruining a once strong character like tanya
where is alice and joey's mother? alice keep saying she had no one her mother is alive isnt she?
i wonder did alfie take on kirsty to work in the pub to get at the brannings he did tell bianca a few weeks back he had no jobs yet employs fatboy, roxy, jean, himself and now kirsty he should take shirley back behind the bar
poor lola if isnt for sharon she has no say or time with lexi because of phil
parkerman
29-12-2012, 02:38
i wonder did alfie take on kirsty to work in the pub to get at the brannings
Does he know who she is?
he did tell bianca a few weeks back he had no jobs yet employs fatboy, roxy, jean, himself and now kirsty l
Don't forget Tracey.
parkerman
29-12-2012, 02:38
i wonder did alfie take on kirsty to work in the pub to get at the brannings
Does he know who she is?
he did tell bianca a few weeks back he had no jobs yet employs fatboy, roxy, jean, himself and now kirsty l
Don't forget Tracey.
flappinfanny
29-12-2012, 12:33
i was expecting tanya to cry and say max was hers.l
i was expecting that as well, but that would have been so eastenders and predictable. im glad she didnt, it is showing a different side to tanya and will make way for jo joyners year break or perhaps longer?
parkerman
29-12-2012, 12:52
i was expecting that as well, but that would have been so eastenders and predictable. im glad she didnt, it is showing a different side to tanya and will make way for jo joyners year break or perhaps longer?
Er...is that a spoiler?
parkerman
29-12-2012, 12:52
i was expecting that as well, but that would have been so eastenders and predictable. im glad she didnt, it is showing a different side to tanya and will make way for jo joyners year break or perhaps longer?
Er...is that a spoiler?
megan999
29-12-2012, 12:53
Does he know who she is?
I don't think that Alfie knows Kirsty's back story yet.
megan999
29-12-2012, 12:53
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JustJodi
29-12-2012, 15:18
Ok Derek is dead,, I was sort of hoping he would meet a VIOLENT death..the evil toad deserved it,, but no he gets a dicky heart that packs in,,, Liam really could have made a pile of money and could have snuck off with it and paid all of Bianca's bills if he had THOUGHT of it,,, I have a uneasy hunch that Michael took all the dodgy gear and the blue money box..poor Liam is going to be blamed for the missing stuff.
flappinfanny
30-12-2012, 22:59
Er...is that a spoiler?
sorry, i sincerely apologise.
tammyy2j
02-01-2013, 15:27
I assume Sharon said yes to Jack's proposal, why would she want to marry a Mitchell again?
I don't understand why Lola didn't ask for Lexi to be christened Lexi Billie Mitchell Pearce
tammyy2j
02-01-2013, 15:27
I assume Sharon said yes to Jack's proposal, why would she want to marry a Mitchell again?
I don't understand why Lola didn't ask for Lexi to be christened Lexi Billie Mitchell Pearce
JustJodi
02-01-2013, 15:40
LOOKED like it was Jack cos he had on a top coat and Phil didn't... Shirley was right about Phil,, it is always about PHIL not about Lexi or even Lola ....
parkerman
02-01-2013, 17:28
I don't understand what difference the name at the christening ceremony makes. The name on the birth certificate is Lola Pearce, so that's her official name.
[QUOTE=parkerman;786807]I don't understand what difference the name at the christening ceremony makes. The name on the birth certificate is Lola Pearce, so that's her official name.[/QUOTE
Phils' twisted little mind coming into play, as was his action of standing directly in front of Lola for the group photo.
parkerman
05-01-2013, 02:40
So Joey is trying to get somewhere in a rush and, guess what, there are roadworks and a broken down car in the way. Why have Eastenders never thought of this device before?
Well, apart from the first million times anyway....:wall::wall::wall:
where was suzy and april and sonia and robbie for derek's funeral?
best part of the double episodes last night was cora
where was suzy and april and sonia and robbie for derek's funeral?
best part of the double episodes last night was cora
megan999
06-01-2013, 12:17
I don't know why the writers decided to kill off Derek in the first place. I thought he was a very interesting character. And when I heard they WERE going to kill him off, I thought he was supposed to be murdered and it was going to be a big "who killed Derek Branning". I'm finding this storyline disappointing. Also I hope that Kat and Alfie get back together eventually because I can't stand Roxy. I am glad that Kirsty is staying around I believe, cos I think it adds a new dimension to Max and Tanya's relationship. As you know, I'm not a big fan of Tanya!
tammyy2j
06-01-2013, 19:25
I think the character of Tanya has changed for the worse
Max was better with Stacey, I see zero chemistry with him and Kirsty
tammyy2j
06-01-2013, 19:25
.
megan999
07-01-2013, 16:51
I think the character of Tanya has changed for the worse
Max was better with Stacey, I see zero chemistry with him and Kirsty
I soo agree with you, Tammy :)
megan999
07-01-2013, 16:51
I think the character of Tanya has changed for the worse
Max was better with Stacey, I see zero chemistry with him and Kirsty
I soo agree with you, Tammy :)
so we can expect more kissing cousins with dexter and abi
JustJodi
07-01-2013, 21:52
Ok what do U guys think???? Who is better suited for Ray?? Denise or Kim ??? I personally THOUGHT Ray and Denise had some pretty good chemistry going when they started kissing,, now I am not so sure any more,, Kim goes in and clobbers her sister for MAKING A MOVE on her man.....I am trying to PICTURE/VISUALIZE Abi and Dexter... nah I do not think Abi will go that far with him,, shes got a pretty good head on her shoulders, now I can maybe see Lauren trying to pull Dexter,, but not sure now with her head all messed up over Joey..Love this new friendship between Kat and Bianca...Kat has a good heart really..I like her better now that she isn't all made up like a tart :-D
tammyy2j
07-01-2013, 22:02
Ray lied to save his own neck by saying Denise came on to him, dont think Denise or Kim deserve him they deserve better
I read that Dexter gets with Lola
I wished Kat had explained her relationship with Derek more as in why she went with him everytime his name is mentioned she looks like she wants to throw up
tammyy2j
07-01-2013, 22:02
.
flappinfanny
08-01-2013, 00:07
I think the character of Tanya has changed for the worse
in what way?
JustJodi
08-01-2013, 00:35
Not sure why Ray was lying to save his own ****,, unless he is pizzed cos Denise didn't want to contiune messin around behind Kim's back ??? I also thought of something,,, did Denise say she got a letter about a visiting request with Lucas ??? What did she decide??? I missed a good chunk of the Friday's episode.. Yea I would dearly love to "hear" what Kat hs to say on WHY she was with Derek in the first place,I mean of the 4 Brannings,, I would have chosen Jack or Max or even Joey LOL Not that slimey toad ( ah must not speak ill of the dead )
LostVoodoo
08-01-2013, 09:07
Ray lied to save his own neck by saying Denise came on to him, dont think Denise or Kim deserve him they deserve better
It surprised me too, Ray's always been portrayed as a good bloke in the show so far and he did just lie to save his neck. Maybe he panicked because he wants to stay with Kim, but I wouldn't have expected him to try and come between the two sisters like that.
LostVoodoo
08-01-2013, 09:07
Ray lied to save his own neck by saying Denise came on to him, dont think Denise or Kim deserve him they deserve better
It surprised me too, Ray's always been portrayed as a good bloke in the show so far and he did just lie to save his neck. Maybe he panicked because he wants to stay with Kim, but I wouldn't have expected him to try and come between the two sisters like that.
tammyy2j
08-01-2013, 12:19
in what way?
She used to be feisty, fearless and likeable but not now imo, she became fiercely annoying especially going on and on about the wedding and butting into everyone's busy and acting all postive over Max but thats my take on her now anyways
tammyy2j
09-01-2013, 12:55
What the hell was Phil thinking taking a baby into a garage, how the hell has he got custody of Lexi?
parkerman
09-01-2013, 14:03
What the hell was Phil thinking taking a baby into a garage, how the hell has he got custody of Lexi?
This storyline has plumbed the depths of tedium...Who tf cares anymore!!!
parkerman
09-01-2013, 14:03
What the hell was Phil thinking taking a baby into a garage, how the hell has he got custody of Lexi?
This storyline has plumbed the depths of tedium...Who tf cares anymore!!!
JustJodi
09-01-2013, 16:05
What the hell was Phil thinking taking a baby into a garage, how the hell has he got custody of Lexi?
Tammy I am with you on this,,, he says he has to work on a motor,,, then drags the baby into a smell filthy garage,,, for heavens sake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wonder if some one reports this activity to family services ? Nah not on EE ... phfffffffffttttttttttttttttt
megan999
09-01-2013, 16:08
I am sooooo bored of the Phil/Lexi/Lola/Sharon storyline. Where has Shirley gone? She needs to add some excitement to this sorry mess.
tammyy2j
09-01-2013, 16:33
I am sooooo bored of the Phil/Lexi/Lola/Sharon storyline. Where has Shirley gone? She needs to add some excitement to this sorry mess.
Shirley is working in McClunkeys but I want her to help Billy and Lola maybe move in with them to get Lexi back
Shirley still is keeping quite on Phil's cover up of Heather's death
I am sooooo bored of the Phil/Lexi/Lola/Sharon storyline. Where has Shirley gone? She needs to add some excitement to this sorry mess.
shirley must be on one hell of a bender since xmas/new year no sign of her yet
phil shouldnt be left look after a rat let alone a child
I am sooooo bored of the Phil/Lexi/Lola/Sharon storyline. Where has Shirley gone? She needs to add some excitement to this sorry mess.
shirley must be on one hell of a bender since xmas/new year no sign of her yet
phil shouldnt be left look after a rat let alone a child
JustJodi
10-01-2013, 22:25
Boy the Branning house this episode was a real DOOZY,,, Kristy just LOVED every second of Tanya's messed up family,,then Ava shows up and Dexter reveals she is his mom,, that was icing on the cake,,, TBH I was bored bored bored with Alfie Rox and Kat,,, snore ville,,, hmmm Denise and Ian ???? whats your take on this ????
parkerman
11-01-2013, 08:56
Yes, a great dinner party last night with some good one-liners from Kirsty. Made a welcome change from Alfie & Kat and Phil & Lexi not to mention Denise and Kim etc. etc.
Take a long look at your family Max - time to ditch the fishwife and the alki-daughter and mother in law from hell! Time to disappear in a black cab with Kirsty - you'll soon get used to those lips!!l
megan999
11-01-2013, 14:33
There's a Red Button Episode after tonight's episode....
I don't know how to do Spoiler text, but someone will be returning who's been away for awhile.....:thumbsup:
go abi get it all out
what will mas do now not tell zainab of course
go abi get it all out
what will mas do now not tell zainab of course
JustJodi
11-01-2013, 22:37
I was so proud of ABI sticking up for herself AT LAST,, and saying NO to be a door mat,,Why on earth is Ava so angry ??? She is taking it out on the wrong folks, she should be taking it out on Dexter. Let me ask you guys why is it KIM'S B&B????? I thought the money that they got was for both Denise and Kim,, did I some how miss it that all the money went to Kim ??? I am tired of Kim she is a tad bit OTT throwing her sister out cos her b/f broke up with her after he ADMITED it was not Denise's fault but his,, ah well Well it looks like Massood knows who Aleysa has a crush on,, LOL and NO he is not gonna tell Zainab , hes gonna do what he always does,,, try to sort it out alone,,
LostVoodoo
12-01-2013, 15:09
I did love Abi's massive rant day!
Dutchgirl
14-01-2013, 20:08
So does Kirsty's hairdo have a particular name or what is the stoy there? Same goes for the fake lashes they put on some of the women.....brrrr
megan999
15-01-2013, 15:01
Dot's back, yay,:thumbsup: I've missed her :) What a welcome home, eh?
JustJodi
15-01-2013, 16:44
Dot's back, yay,:thumbsup: I've missed her :) What a welcome home, eh?
...Oh I say.... does she know who Joey is ??????? She was not around when Joey showed up ,, so this will be a bit of a shocker for her,,, oooooh she got rid of her Vintage ride and got a SMART car LOL
parkerman
16-01-2013, 06:15
a) What sort of time is 5:00 to arrange a dinner? Tanya, Max, Jack and Cora should all have been working or just finishing work.
b) Who was in the kitchen at the Vic preparing the meals? Ray only came in some time after they had ordered.
parkerman
16-01-2013, 06:15
a) What sort of time is 5:00 to arrange a dinner? Tanya, Max, Jack and Cora should all have been working or just finishing work.
b) Who was in the kitchen at the Vic preparing the meals? Ray only came in some time after they had ordered.
That's what I just said....
a) What sort of time is 5:00 to arrange a dinner? Tanya, Max, Jack and Cora should all have been working or just finishing work.
b) Who was in the kitchen at the Vic preparing the meals? Ray only came in some time after they had ordered.
jean i think
why is cora mad at dot?
parkerman
16-01-2013, 13:26
jean i think
Couldn't have been as no-one ordered sausage surprise.
parkerman
16-01-2013, 13:26
jean i think
Couldn't have been as no-one ordered sausage surprise.
Couldn't have been as no-one ordered sausage surprise.
:lol:
tanya and kirsty to busy fighting over max's sausage surprise :p
megan999
16-01-2013, 16:51
So does Kirsty's hairdo have a particular name or what is the stoy there? Same goes for the fake lashes they put on some of the women.....brrrr
That particular hair-do is called a "reverse dip dye" I believe. It's in fashion at the moment.
moonstorm
16-01-2013, 16:59
That particular hair-do is called a "reverse dip dye" I believe. It's in fashion at the moment.
Yipppeee my roots are in fashion!! Going to save me a fortune in hair dye!!
moonstorm
16-01-2013, 16:59
That particular hair-do is called a "reverse dip dye" I believe. It's in fashion at the moment.
Yipppeee my roots are in fashion!! Going to save me a fortune in hair dye!!
flappinfanny
17-01-2013, 00:23
good to have june brown back, loved her scenes with ann mitchell at the end of tues ep. ee is certainly on form after the christmas eps. :)
tammyy2j
17-01-2013, 01:34
I loved Bianca and her kids at the dinner
Why was Ava and her son there again? Didnt she have a job as a school principal elsewhere already?
parkerman
17-01-2013, 08:37
People only have part time jobs in Eastenders. They can take time off when they like, have holidays when they feel like it, arrange to meet up in the cafe (or Vic) when they should be at work, etc. etc. Even Mas working for the Post office swans off when he feels like it or takes his postbag back home or into the cafe. It's a good life for Albert Square "workers"!
Plus, when they leave a job they pick up another straight away..
parkerman
17-01-2013, 10:08
And always on the Square.
And always on the Square.
Zero rate unemployment. Walford Council must be a Labour one lol
And always on the Square.
Zero rate unemployment. Walford Council must be a Labour one lol
parkerman
17-01-2013, 10:43
I thought you deserved thanking twice for that observation.
that dexter fella is annoying me already
how sick and weird was it hearing phil saying daddy phil to lexi
I thought I had misheard that, thought maybe he said granddaddy Phil, glad you heard the same; sick and weird, you are right
tammyy2j
18-01-2013, 13:25
how sick and weird was it hearing phil saying daddy phil to lexi
That was disturbing
When is Lola suppose to get custody back as I thought Phil had interim custody and now he isnt in a relationship with Sharon why has he kept Lexi?
Phil is disturbing......!
and why do EE men have to 'whisper' when they are doing 'tough man' or 'emotion'...?
thank God the women dont do it otherwise I'd have to have the volume up!!
megan999
19-01-2013, 12:59
Phil is disturbing......!
and why do EE men have to 'whisper' when they are doing 'tough man' or 'emotion'...?
thank God the women dont do it otherwise I'd have to have the volume up!!
I find it hard to understand what Joey is saying sometimes. Good thing I can lip read!
It's just so unbelievable that Phil would get custody. I just don't get it.
parkerman
20-01-2013, 10:00
This is Eastenders, Katy. It exists in a parallel dimension to the rest of the world.
This is Eastenders, Katy. It exists in a parallel dimension to the rest of the world.
what gets me in all soaps is that we are taken to be thick fools who will believe these outrageous stories. I find it insulting that I am meant to think Phil would get custody.
Gievn the speed with which Lexi was taken away from Lola - why would she be released into the care of an ex-con, ex-alcoholic, ex-druggie with the ease of handing over a kitten?
(in fact getting to home a kitten may even take longer??!!)
LostVoodoo
21-01-2013, 17:08
I'm not excusing the stupidness of the storyline at all, but does anyone else keep forgetting that Phil is Lexi's grandfather? Can't wait til the inevitable day when Ben comes back with a third head!
I find it hard to understand what Joey is saying sometimes. Good thing I can lip read!
he dont have to say anything he is grand to look at :p
anyone else think ava will be next for a romance maybe with phil
I find it hard to understand what Joey is saying sometimes. Good thing I can lip read!
he dont have to say anything he is grand to look at :p
anyone else think ava will be next for a romance maybe with phil
tammyy2j
21-01-2013, 22:13
Tanya seems to forget she took Max from his first wife Rachel and didnt think about his son Bradley at that time, she really has become a pathetic character
Loved Kirsty's line to Phil after his asked her out
When is Kat going to open up about why she went with Derek, seems to be now forgotten by her and the writers, an explanation would be nice for the viewers
tammyy2j
21-01-2013, 22:13
.
tammyy2j
23-01-2013, 16:27
So sick of the Max and Tanya storyline already
flappinfanny
24-01-2013, 13:30
im going to miss jo joyner. a very good actor.
tammyy2j
24-01-2013, 14:24
im going to miss jo joyner. a very good actor.
But the writers have ruined the character imo same with Kat
parkerman
24-01-2013, 15:02
I agree tammy. Sadly that's what Eastenders does best!
flappinfanny
24-01-2013, 19:56
But the writers have ruined the character imo same with Kat
true, but she can only work with the material she is given.
parkerman
25-01-2013, 07:38
true, but she can only work with the material she is given.
Of course, Jo Joyner is excellent. What tammy and I are complaining about is what the scriptwriters have done to Tanya's character. No-one is complaining about Jo.
parkerman
25-01-2013, 07:38
true, but she can only work with the material she is given.
Of course, Jo Joyner is excellent. What tammy and I are complaining about is what the scriptwriters have done to Tanya's character. No-one is complaining about Jo.
parkerman
25-01-2013, 11:30
Last night, Dot said her benefits had been stopped because she was in rent arrears. Another fine example of Eastenders not being in the same United Kingdom as the rest of us!
tammyy2j
25-01-2013, 14:18
Last night, Dot said her benefits had been stopped because she was in rent arrears. Another fine example of Eastenders not being in the same United Kingdom as the rest of us!
As Dot is a pensioner with her husband in care wouldnt she get help from the state?
parkerman
25-01-2013, 15:04
Yes, but not in Walford.
Yes, but not in Walford.
That is cause everyone can get a job in Walford.. there is no need for pension or benefits. You work til your drop dead or are murdered in a christmas special
are lauren and joey a couple now?
are lauren and joey a couple now?
yes Dot finding them on the sofa 'outed' them.....
jack should kick out sharon instead of max
whitney looked very orange at the start of tonight's episode
poor aj coughed up for a bottle of wine for bianca and she leaves him out in the cold :p funny though
jack should kick out sharon instead of max
whitney looked very orange at the start of tonight's episode
poor aj coughed up for a bottle of wine for bianca and she leaves him out in the cold :p funny though
parkerman
01-02-2013, 10:11
Yet another great example of Walford not being in the United Kingdom last night. Alfie "surprises" Roxy with a sign showing she is now joint licensee of the Queen Vic. Never mind the fact that she would have had to apply herself, get herself registered, sign various documents etc., none of which can be done "on your behalf" by someone else.
Also, if Bianca is so broke, why does she spend most of the day in the cafe? Wouldn't it be cheaper to have tea or coffee at home?
parkerman
01-02-2013, 10:11
Yet another great example of Walford not being in the United Kingdom last night. Alfie "surprises" Roxy with a sign showing she is now joint licensee of the Queen Vic. Never mind the fact that she would have had to apply herself, get herself registered, sign various documents etc., none of which can be done "on your behalf" by someone else.
Also, if Bianca is so broke, why does she spend most of the day in the cafe? Wouldn't it be cheaper to have tea or coffee at home?
Yet another great example of Walford not being in the United Kingdom last night. Alfie "surprises" Roxy with a sign showing she is now joint licensee of the Queen Vic. Never mind the fact that she would have had to apply herself, get herself registered, sign various documents etc., none of which can be done "on your behalf" by someone else.
Also, if Bianca is so broke, why does she spend most of the day in the cafe? Wouldn't it be cheaper to have tea or coffee at home?
would Alfie get a licence so easily himself with a criminal record?
and Kat had one too, I thought the reason Phil wasnt licensee at any point in the history of him owning it was his record?
parkerman
01-02-2013, 10:47
If an applicant for a Personal Licence has unspent˜relevant offences' or ˜foreign offences', the licensing authority can grant the licence only after having consulted the local police. If the police then object on the grounds that the ˜Crime Reduction' objective of the Licensing Act would be undermined by granting the application, then the application must be refused. The applicant can appeal the refusal and this will require a hearing. In practical terms, if an applicant has an unspent offence the police will object and in most cases the licence will end up not being granted. An offence is ˜spent' after a period of time, 5, 7 or 10 years depending on seriousness. Offences which are never˜spent' are those where the offender was sentenced to 32 months in prison or more.
The police would certainly object to Phil having a licence. Maybe Alfie would get away with it. However, you have brought up another point. Alfie doesn't own the Vic, it's not up to him to make Roxy a licensee, even if he could.
I am assuming with all this that Roxy had already passed her Personal Licence exam as I believe she did have a licence once before. Nevertheless, that wouldn't mean she wouldn't have to go through the whole process again. Alfie can't just make her a licensee.
parkerman
01-02-2013, 10:47
You don't want to read that again, interesting and informative as it was!
tammyy2j
01-02-2013, 13:49
Didnt Phil also make Roxy manager so she is Alfie's boss no?
I hate how Alfie is always helping Kat he needs a clean break from her
parkerman
01-02-2013, 14:25
Didnt Phil also make Roxy manager so she is Alfie's boss no?
Yes, I believe so.
parkerman
01-02-2013, 14:25
Didnt Phil also make Roxy manager so she is Alfie's boss no?
Yes, I believe so.
See, I feel so strongly about it, I even believe it twice!
tammyy2j
01-02-2013, 14:39
Why didnt Phil take Lola with him to meet Peggy in Cornwall and why the hell didnt Peggy come back for Pat's funeral if she is in Cornwall?
I could rant all day about Eastenders
megan999
01-02-2013, 14:52
The plots of EastEnders come from another planet, but that's why I like watching it, to get away from real life for half an hour. I just suspend belief and enjoy the (mostly) good acting!:angel:And when I can't understand the plot, I just post on this excellent forum :thumbsup:
Why didnt Phil take Lola with him to meet Peggy in Cornwall and why the hell didnt Peggy come back for Pat's funeral if she is in Cornwall?
I could rant all day about Eastenders
because Phil isnt interested in Lola - lexi is Phil's baby now!!
and i thought peggy had gone to Portugal to be with Grant?
flappinfanny
02-02-2013, 13:54
i thought she'd gone to play bingo, being a fairy god mother. :)
so max didnt go looking for tanya he went after kirsty instead
flappinfanny
03-02-2013, 16:22
max is like a dog with two *****! :p
parkerman
03-02-2013, 19:28
max is like a dog with two *****! :p
One for Tanya and one for Kirsty.
parkerman
03-02-2013, 19:28
max is like a dog with two *****! :p
One for Kirsty and one for Tanya.
tiffany has the same grey jacket as bianca :p
parkerman
05-02-2013, 11:57
Is the Walford post sorting office in Masood's house?
Is the Walford post sorting office in Masood's house?
It must be, and lo and behold a brand new sledgehammer had just been dropped off in his front garden by Royal Mail - right on cue for when he needed to smash up his water feature!
Is the Walford post sorting office in Masood's house?
it used to be in Billy's bedroom!!!! :-)
parkerman
05-02-2013, 17:00
it used to be in Billy's bedroom!!!! :-)
Yes, I'd forgotten about that. Whatever happened to that storyline?
parkerman
05-02-2013, 17:00
it used to be in Billy's bedroom!!!! :-)
Yes, I'd forgotten about that. Whatever happened to that storyline?
joey acting just like derek bullying michael overprotective of alice
megan999
08-02-2013, 13:06
What great acting from Masood and Zainab. The whole episode could have been a two-hander and I still would have been hooked:thumbsup:
Great to see Kat and Bianca being good friends.
tammyy2j
08-02-2013, 14:39
What great acting from Masood and Zainab. The whole episode could have been a two-hander and I still would have been hooked:thumbsup:
Great to see Kat and Bianca being good friends.
I feel they have rushed Zainab and Massod's break up probably because of Zainab leaving
Loved seeing AJ and Tamwar being caring and worried for them
I feel they have rushed Zainab and Massod's break up probably because of Zainab leaving
Loved seeing AJ and Tamwar being caring and worried for them
agreed - and given what a stubborn what-not Zainab is - why would she go? she didnt go anywhere when Yusuf was trouble - she didnt go anywhere before when she was alone?
but now we have the ubiquitous taxi scene - all a bit rushed as you say
tammyy2j
08-02-2013, 16:05
agreed - and given what a stubborn what-not Zainab is - why would she go? she didnt go anywhere when Yusuf was trouble - she didnt go anywhere before when she was alone?
but now we have the ubiquitous taxi scene - all a bit rushed as you say
Yes I dont see why Zainab would leave her family Tamwar and Kamil unless she takes them with her
I have always found that quick exits are badly written and don't make sense regarding the personality of the character leaving
I have always found that quick exits are badly written and don't make sense regarding the personality of the character leaving
what a lame exit for zainab who i will miss even if she annoyed me at times
I have always found that quick exits are badly written and don't make sense regarding the personality of the character leaving
what a lame exit for zainab who i will miss even if she annoyed me at times
flappinfanny
09-02-2013, 00:18
yes i wll miss her as well. nina will be a big loss to ee. a very good actor who is equally at home with comedy as well as the dramatic stuff. nice touch with julias theme at the end.
megan999
09-02-2013, 13:38
Yes, I agree it was rushed, but it had all the drama and brilliant acting, which sadly shows what we will all miss from the excellent Nina Wadia. Bye bye Zainab, I'm really gonna miss you:crying:
I hope that the writers aren't going to dismantle the Masood family now, :(:banned:
its got to be the ultimate EE tribute for an actor - to have their own exit tune - or Julia's theme etc?
well done Z
parkerman
10-02-2013, 09:43
It's also become something of a self-fulfilling cliche now that important characters leaving (as opposed to being killed off) leave in the back of a black cab.
It's also become something of a self-fulfilling cliche now that important characters leaving (as opposed to being killed off) leave in the back of a black cab.
and have you noticed that no matter where on the square the character lives - the taxi almost always does a full circuit before exiting?
tammyy2j
10-02-2013, 17:53
I felt so sorry for Zainab and Tamwar, it was very rushed
It's also become something of a self-fulfilling cliche now that important characters leaving (as opposed to being killed off) leave in the back of a black cab.
i like it to be a yellow or red cab/taxi for a change sometime :p
can we expect a romance for tamwar and lucy down the road
parkerman
12-02-2013, 12:14
Meanwhile back in the real world, I wonder how many postmen take their bag of letters back to their own house, have a chat with their son and brother and then go back on their rounds........
JustJodi
12-02-2013, 12:58
I have to agree with you Parkerman I was thinking how is that allowed ????????????
patrick's hat stayed on when he fell must be glued on
parkerman
13-02-2013, 08:04
And another thing.....Maybe it's just me and it is normal in some places, but I do find it very odd that people use a person's first name instead of referring to them as mum or dad. Masood talked about Zainab and "Z" when talking to Tamwar and Shirley talked about Bianca when talking to Liam. In both of those conversations, in my experience, Masood and Shirley would have said "mum" or Your mum" rather than use their names. They were just two examples from last night but it happens all the time.
It is all too common nowadays to refer to your parents or your kids parents by their given names... I don't like it. I always say "dad" when talk to the kids about their father and would never dream of calling my parents by their names (my ex husband drives me mad with this). And I hate my nieces and nephews referring to my dad as "granddad Jim".. use Grandad please!!
Same here, would never have dreamt to call my parents by their first names nor has my son ever called me by mine. If there are still 2 grandmas or grandpas, I don't have a problem with adding their name if talking about them just for clarification, especially in my family as there are quite a few step grandparents around but the word grandma or granddad always gets said.
LostVoodoo
13-02-2013, 17:51
Just to weigh in on things that are annoying me about the Masood storyline at the moment...this 'saving up for university' storyline. Yes, it's sensible to have some money saved up and/or have a part-time job when you're a student but they even said in the show that you don't pay the fees upfront! And yes there is student debt, but you don't pay it back until you're in employment and earning above a certain amount. There's hardly a dearth of decent universities in London, Tamwar could go to one and live at home, that would save money too! I know he didn't get into Oxford, but he does still have A-levels, so he could still go to uni. But no, he has to stay on the Square and sweep the streets!
tammyy2j
15-02-2013, 13:27
Good lord Sharon is annoying
Good lord Sharon is annoying
nothing against Letitia, but what is the POINT of Sharon...?
nothing against Letitia, but what is the POINT of Sharon...?
a friend for phil
i wonder is she obsessed with lexi
roxy is being ruined since she has been put with alfie and i was eager for them to get together maybe it happened too soon
tammyy2j
18-02-2013, 22:59
So sick of Kat crying over Alfie and playing the victim and Alfie being kind to her, she cheated on him with Derek Branning grow a pair Alfie Moon
I hope Lola gets Lexi back soon
Good on Dot telling Patrick, Denise and Kim the truth and they making up
tammyy2j
18-02-2013, 22:59
Kirsty's lips look bigger if that is possible :p
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.