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I am watching it, and you are right, it is Wednesday, should not be. Any idea why it is?
I am watching it, and you are right, it is Wednesday, should not be. Any idea why it is?
I dont know why it on is there something on later in the week or is there a extra episode this week
Jodie is doing my head in what a winge bag
Look like Abi still fancies Darren
Because of rugby there is no EastEnders on Friday :)
EE is on tonight
ah darn it.. I missed it... that is pants
tammyy2j
03-02-2011, 11:01
ah darn it.. I missed it... that is pants
You didnt miss much it was fairly crap imo
JustJodi
03-02-2011, 12:25
I am watching it, and you are right, it is Wednesday, should not be. Any idea why it is?
Friday is some ball game starting at 7:30 p.m so I guess this was a filler ????????????
JustJodi
03-02-2011, 12:27
How long is Michael going to be on??? Is he going to be hanging out until we find out James is Tommy ???
tammyy2j
03-02-2011, 13:55
How long is Michael going to be on??? Is he going to be hanging out until we find out James is Tommy ???
I think for a while at least he gets with Roxy
just watching yesterdays episode.. Kim makes me laugh.. shirley walks into the salon and she say "you do realise this is a beauty salon" and shirley replies "really? looking at you I would say it was more of an ambition" :lol:
finally finished watching it.. Although Abi just has a schoolgirl crush on Darren, it thought it was insensitive for him to propose to Jodie in front of her.. especially after she had gone and done the room up too
Felt sorry for Alfie in the end but Kat has gone through so much and she was just looking for someone to understand her pain.. she picked the wrong person by asking Michael...
Janine told Whitney about the money but you can see she is so manipulating her... that is wrong!!!
tammyy2j
04-02-2011, 12:36
So Glenda told Roxy that Phil took her money but is there anything Roxy can do now about it and I hope Roxy finds out that Glenda knew all along
So Glenda told Roxy that Phil took her money but is there anything Roxy can do now about it and I hope Roxy finds out that Glenda knew all along
Yeah.. was surprised at that.. how can Glenda prove it??? she can't but you know Roxy is going to go in Bulling...
Wasn't surprised that Ian didn't back her up.. Phil had something on him, he got something on Phil, no more blackmail to tell Shirley/Jane..
Janine is really doing a number on Whitney.. she is using her to get some cash.. Go get a job woman!!
tammyy2j
04-02-2011, 12:42
Yeah.. was surprised at that.. how can Glenda prove it??? she can't but you know Roxy is going to go in Bulling...
Wasn't surprised that Ian didn't back her up.. Phil had something on him, he got something on Phil, no more blackmail to tell Shirley/Jane..
Janine is really doing a number on Whitney.. she is using her to get some cash.. Go get a job woman!!
Whitney should have gone home with Ricky but I guess she wont with Carol still being there
Janine has no friends and with Pat away I think she also is liking having Whitney around plus she is Ryan's sister so another connection to him
I'm not liking the character of Whitney lately I think the writers have ruined her
I'm not liking the character of Whitney lately I think the writers have ruined her
Whitney surprised me yesterday when she just expected Mercy to speak to her after the way she treated her... what a nerve... I don't think Whitney is been ruined, we are seen the affects of Janine's influence on her
tammyy2j
04-02-2011, 13:48
Whitney surprised me yesterday when she just expected Mercy to speak to her after the way she treated her... what a nerve... I don't think Whitney is been ruined, we are seen the affects of Janine's influence on her
Even before the character took up with Janine I think she was ruined for me
I wish Carol and Ricky would make more of an effort to try to sort Whitney out and get her home
I know Kat is grieving but I feel sorry for poor Alfie I'm glad Michael turned down Kat
I hope Glenda leaves soon enough
Even before the character took up with Janine I think she was ruined for me
Might be to do with the storyline coming up, that they had to show her in a certain way... She was alway vunerable and does latch on to people who manipulate her and alter her behaviour.. look at how she was with Billie.. sweet and nice, then with Connor, deperate and needy... she shows these as an affect of what Tony has done to her.. she came into the show hard as nails and we saw her softer side...
With everything that has gone on in her past I am not surprised she goes on the way she does
tammyy2j
05-02-2011, 21:24
Might be to do with the storyline coming up, that they had to show her in a certain way... She was alway vunerable and does latch on to people who manipulate her and alter her behaviour.. look at how she was with Billie.. sweet and nice, then with Connor, deperate and needy... she shows these as an affect of what Tony has done to her.. she came into the show hard as nails and we saw her softer side...
With everything that has gone on in her past I am not surprised she goes on the way she does
Perhaps I just find her character and Lauren quite annoying lately
Perhaps I just find her character and Lauren quite annoying lately
No.. I find her annoying too... especially the way she was over Connor and her treatment of Mercy
tammyy2j
06-02-2011, 20:55
No.. I find her annoying too... especially the way she was over Connor and her treatment of Mercy
Whitney will be glad of her real friends like Mercy soon enough
What happened Michael's eye did Jack punch him already?
JustJodi
11-02-2011, 23:37
What happened Michael's eye did Jack punch him already?
Nope Max did,, something to do with his KISS with his g/f whats her name ????
tammyy2j
15-02-2011, 13:44
The show has really got boring
JustJodi
15-02-2011, 16:22
The show has really got boring
The only exciting thing was when Jack punched Michael.. after that it went down hill ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz
I find Michael's acting very hammy... and this "I know you want me" act with every woman is creeping me out...
JustJodi
15-02-2011, 16:33
I find Michael's acting very hammy... and this "I know you want me" act with every woman is creeping me out...
we both agreed from day one he is not eye candy...and I agree he is very HAMMY
Just last night he really annoyed me.. went to Ronnie and was all mean "roar roar why did you say that" and then next raised eyebrow "I know your my mates wife and want me"... it was cringe worthy.. he reminds me of Milhouse in the Simpsons the way he talks to Lisa!!
Is Heather living at Minty's flat or somewhere else?
Poor Heather she is always having it tough
JustJodi
16-02-2011, 02:35
I thought it was too but doesn't it appear to be so much smaller tho ????................ so looks like its gonna be CARBON MONOXIDE poisoning ?????
No.. she is not in Minty's flat.. Dot mentioned last night it was her old friend Ethel's flat... My heart went out to Heather last night but where is all her money going?? she has 3 jobs, cleaning for shirley, laundrette and shop.. the flat rent can't be that expensive, it is tiny so where is her money going?
Dutchgirl
16-02-2011, 10:53
No.. she is not in Minty's flat.. Dot mentioned last night it was her old friend Ethel's flat... My heart went out to Heather last night but where is all her money going?? she has 3 jobs, cleaning for shirley, laundrette and shop.. the flat rent can't be that expensive, it is tiny so where is her money going?
My thoughts ecxactly. Where is the money going? I must admit I was feeling upset when watching. It was also the way they filmed it. An unsteady camera. Well portrayed. It felt like it was going another way. A mum desperate enough to do something else..... But glad they didn't take it there.
Looks like she does not always get the money when she should, did Heather not say last night that Shirley did not give her any wages for 2 weeks? And Darren only ever makes empty promises. And the landlord was not truthful about the council tax being included in the rent, so another unexpected expense for her. I wishes she had taken the offer of the veg from Billy :(
parkerman
16-02-2011, 11:41
Looks like she does not always get the money when she should, did Heather not say last night that Shirley did not give her any wages for 2 weeks? And Darren only ever makes empty promises. And the landlord was not truthful about the council tax being included in the rent, so another unexpected expense for her. I wishes she had taken the offer of the veg from Billy :(
She must get her money from the MiniMart and the Launderette regularly. Shirley gave her the £20 she owed her yesterday. As for the Council Tax, Dot sorted that out for her at the CAB so she only has to pay what she can afford by instalment.
The point Shiv made was exactly what I said to my wife during last night's episode. Not only does she seem to have fallen into abject poverty in spite of having three jobs but it's all happened so suddenly. She was ok up until a couple of weeks ago.
tammyy2j
16-02-2011, 12:53
No.. she is not in Minty's flat.. Dot mentioned last night it was her old friend Ethel's flat... My heart went out to Heather last night but where is all her money going?? she has 3 jobs, cleaning for shirley, laundrette and shop.. the flat rent can't be that expensive, it is tiny so where is her money going?
She spends it all on the baby I'd say and I think she suffers from asthma and also George was sick
Darren and Shirley should be helping her out more
Why cant Heather and George move in with Patrick as Denise and Kim are moving to start their own B&B
She spends it all on the baby I'd say and I think she suffers from asthma and also George was sick
Darren and Shirley should be helping her out more
Why cant Heather and George move in with Patrick as Denise and Kim are moving to start their own B&B
Yeah with nappies and bottles but she doesn't have food in the house or any clean/new clothes for him. Ok Shirley owes her money and she is working nearly all the time between laundrette and shop so what else is she spending it on???
3 part-time jobs (if she is declaring any of them) won't incur much tax.. Darren should be given regular maintenance (I don't think he is) but how can they help her out when they don't know about it?? She kept in hidden. It was clear she was so hungry last night but when Billy offered her the veg and said about tough times, she told him to give it to someone else... She cannot get help if she doesn't ask.. She didn't want to hold the book club.. the girl needs to tell someone!!
Heather mentioned last night that most her money goes on child care, so she might have 3 jobs but needs to pay somebody to look after George for her when she is working. And her money will change every week, according to how many shifts she does in the launderette and MiniMart. She could have been struggling for a while but she is obviously not prepared to let anybody know.
Heather has said off and on for a long time that she's struggling for money. As Perdita says, it sounds like most of her money goes on child care, which is very expensive for a single parent.
Shirley's worse than useless to Heather - a grand gesture of a party doesn't make up for ignoring her situation day after day.
When are the writers going to give her a break? :angry:
When are the writers going to give her a break? :angry:
when they give Billy a break!
I know childcare is expensive for a single person (have been their myself). Heather needs to know how to manage her money and how not to be a soft touch and demand her money.
JustJodi
16-02-2011, 17:15
Shirley is bound to get it out of her, problem is Heather is such a soft touch.. she will go into a shell first before admitting she needs something, seems to me that every thing is falling up on those shoulders, boiler bad, no electricty, no food, no heat,, and her giving George to Darren was a smart move, Thursday should be interesting.
tammyy2j
20-02-2011, 00:56
Wow Darren going for custody of George so now he wants him
Wow Darren going for custody of George so now he wants him
I hope that Darren changes his mind after looking after George for a few days and finding out it's not as easy as it looks.
JustJodi
22-02-2011, 11:20
I hope that Darren changes his mind after looking after George for a few days and finding out it's not as easy as it looks.
Seems like Jodie is the one who is taking care of George ?????
Janine is a nasty piece of work.. what does she want with Whitney?? seriously she is nasty to her in their flat but yet doesn't want her to go back home.. what does she want??
tammyy2j
22-02-2011, 11:48
Janine is a nasty piece of work.. what does she want with Whitney?? seriously she is nasty to her in their flat but yet doesn't want her to go back home.. what does she want??
I think she is jealous of Whitney i.e. her relationship with Ricky and the kids
Poor Heather I really feel for her
JustJodi
22-02-2011, 11:51
Janine is a nasty piece of work.. what does she want with Whitney?? seriously she is nasty to her in their flat but yet doesn't want her to go back home.. what does she want??
She is pure evil..............I can not believe Whit is that THICK to believe any of the things Janine says,,, I mean Whit is supposed to be street smart..and heck she lived on the streets with Bianca and the kids. I am getting a bit bored with this story line,,
Whitney comes across as been incredibly dumb at times.. surely she can see Janine is playing her.. Janine dropped the cake last night and yet when they all came in, she blamed Whitney.. why didn't Whitney say anything??? I just don't get Janine.. she is really vile to Whitney and yet Whitney stays with her... EVIL!!
I think Janine's doing the classic thing that abusive men do to Whitney - making her dependent on her by putting her down and making her feel worthless and unable to cope on her own, and at the same time cutting her off from her family by telling lies about her. It's an easy situation for a vulnerable young girl to get into, even if it seems like the girl must be stupid to go along with it. Poor Whitney, there's worse to come for her :(
Poor Heather too - another EE woman who feels worthless.
Dutchgirl
22-02-2011, 21:25
Well it is like kicking a dog. How harder you kick them the more they like you. As a figure of speaking. Janine is the only one giving her atention right now.Even when it is negative it is still atention. Like this bloke in the Merc. He is bad news.
My heart went out to Whitney last night... she is been used by Janine and poor girl doesn't know if she is coming or going.. Is Janine going to sleep with Dave or setting Whitney up again???
Loved Shirley and Heather last night.. it was like good old times and really funny
I think Yusef is bad news and it looks like Denise is going to fall for him :thumbsdow
I think Yusef is bad news and it looks like Denise is going to fall for him :thumbsdow
I thought she was until she asked about Zainab.. i hope she doesn't fall for him.. it would break up her friendship and Denise and Zainab are great together
I can imagine Zainab and Yusef rekindling feelings again :thumbsdow
Dutchgirl
26-02-2011, 21:12
Oh that Rob character looked pure evil .My hairs stood up on the back of my neck. I just wanted to scream at the tv:"Run Whitney, run"!!! You can tell all her safety lines are broken. What are those guys called in The Uk? In the Netherlands they are called loverboys.
Why does Carol have to be such a cow? Was she the same all those hears ago?
tammyy2j
01-03-2011, 17:46
I can imagine Zainab and Yusef rekindling feelings again :thumbsdow
You could be right
Is Martine also a ex of Michael Moon's?
JustJodi
03-03-2011, 11:54
Oh that Rob character looked pure evil .My hairs stood up on the back of my neck. I just wanted to scream at the tv:"Run Whitney, run"!!! You can tell all her safety lines are broken. What are those guys called in The Uk? In the Netherlands they are called loverboys.
Why does Carol have to be such a cow? Was she the same all those hears ago?
You mean a PIMP ??? the kind of guys who sell young girls to other men for sex ??? is that what U meant DG ???
JustJodi
03-03-2011, 12:01
I just do not know what to think of this whole Massood and Yusef thing, at one point I thought Yusef might have been "wronged" and was not there when Zee was burned..Seems that Zee is also having 2nd thoughts ??? I think Afia and Tam's relationship is DOOMED..that ring that Mass got for Tam to give Afia is now in Yusef's paws, now what is he going to do with it ?? Ronnie kept coming SOOOO close admitting the baby she has now is not hers,, When is all this going to END,, its driving me nuts, and they are DRAGGGGGGGGGing it out and its boring me to tears !!!
I don't think Yusef has been wronged - he looked really evil at the end of Tuesday's episode. He deliberately undermined the Masoods with his "family" engagement ring. I think it'll turn out that he had something to do with the fire after all.
How stupid is Denise falling for another dodgy man? There are plenty of warning signs - her best friend hates him for starters.
yeah I have a feeling that it will turn out that it was him who ordered the fire and then changed his mind and tried to save her.. I wish he would leave them alone.. His daughter is marrying Tam.. why does he have to be around??.. My ex in laws didn't move to my area when I was married
StarsOfCCTV
03-03-2011, 21:47
^ 'Coz he's evil and wants to stir trouble. :lol: I do agree though Denise, jeez, learn from your mistakes and all. :p
Ha, Glenda. She's amusing. Annoying, but amusing to watch.
Come to think of it how thick is Roxy thinking her mum stole that money. Glenda wouldn't be any better off because she paid for the wedding venue.
Come to think of it how thick is Roxy thinking her mum stole that money. Glenda wouldn't be any better off because she paid for the wedding venue.
she didn't pay for it.. she said she would, handed over a credit card while Ronnie got married, with not enough money on it and ran from the reception.. she didn't pay for wedding at all
tammyy2j
04-03-2011, 13:43
she didn't pay for it.. she said she would, handed over a credit card while Ronnie got married, with not enough money on it and ran from the reception.. she didn't pay for wedding at all
So who did pay for the wedding surely if it was paid for the cops would come after them??????
I hope Roxy does discover it was Phil and Shirley who robbed her
So who did pay for the wedding surely if it was paid for the cops would come after them??????
I hope Roxy does discover it was Phil and Shirley who robbed her
No idea.. maybe I got it wrong but why would they run from the hotel where the reception was suppose to be if they paid for it??
besides.. it they didn't have reception there, then no need to call police as they didn't eat the food and then run
*-Rooney-*
04-03-2011, 15:05
does anyone else think that kat and alfie are going to be left with chenice?
Dutchgirl
06-03-2011, 19:46
You mean a PIMP ??? the kind of guys who sell young girls to other men for sex ??? is that what U meant DG ???
No loverboys. They buy all nice clothes and shower them with nice things. And then they will state that they ow money to bad people, but the money is gone. So they ask their girlfriends to help them out. So the only thing on offer is themselves. ( sort of pimping of course). (are we allowed to say this on the boards?)
But what was Ian thinking putting all that pressure on Ben? Only to save his own sorry ****!
Yusef is so vile! Brrr makes me feel sick. ( he is nice looking though)
DG.. by all means you can say Pimping cause that is what he will do to her...
tammyy2j
07-03-2011, 13:22
I hope Ben confronts his dad about his affair with Glenda
parkerman
07-03-2011, 13:24
Talking of Ben, they got rid of the last Ben because they didn't think he was a good enough actor. In my opinion I think this one is worse. Any views?
Talking of Ben, they got rid of the last Ben because they didn't think he was a good enough actor. In my opinion I think this one is worse. Any views?
This one is 'ard!!!
Yeah.. bit of a waste of space and the other one was better.. I think they needed a harder looking character.. you would never have been able to picture old ben pushing someone down as stairs or smashing windows....
tammyy2j
07-03-2011, 14:37
Talking of Ben, they got rid of the last Ben because they didn't think he was a good enough actor. In my opinion I think this one is worse. Any views?
I preferred the other Benny Elliot
Talking of Ben, they got rid of the last Ben because they didn't think he was a good enough actor. In my opinion I think this one is worse. Any views?
I think the new Ben is a better actor than the old one, myself. It's hard to imagine the new Ben liking musicals, though, even though they kept mentioning he wanted to watch Bugsy Malone the other day.
Phil is caught out - good I hope Shirley gives him a good punch and dumps him
I honestly cant bear Ronnie on screen anymore
I was glad to see Ben sticking up for Jay - I thought they were going to be enemies when Ben got back from the detention centre to find Phil had "adopted" Jay.
Dutchgirl
08-03-2011, 21:38
I was glad to see Ben sticking up for Jay - I thought they were going to be enemies when Ben got back from the detention centre to find Phil had "adopted" Jay.
And the other way around. Jay was sticking up for Ben. I really like the bond between them. They have grown on each other. BTW is Billy staying somewhere else?
JustJodi
08-03-2011, 22:32
Well gang it looks like we have seen the back of Glenda, she has left two women heart broken and hurt her daughters ( again ) I am so glad to see her GONE,, its too bad that Shirley didn't smack her good. I do hope that Jane DOES NOT FORGIVE IAN THIS TIME,,, I have a feeling that the B&B is going to end up with Jane staying there ( does any one know if she is leaving any time soon..) Also when is Heather leaving????? I am a bit TIRED of her moaning and groaning and whining.. Ummmmmmmmmmm is Dot and Mr Bishop gonna have an "affair " LOL I am still wondering, did Ben get his hearing back while he was in the dention center and grow some ???? They could have found a different actor to play Ben this one does not look' ard ...I prefer the Benny Elliot :-)
Dutchgirl
09-03-2011, 09:44
Well gang it looks like we have seen the back of Glenda, she has left two women heart broken and hurt her daughters ( again ) I am so glad to see her GONE,, its too bad that Shirley didn't smack her good. I do hope that Jane DOES NOT FORGIVE IAN THIS TIME,,, I have a feeling that the B&B is going to end up with Jane staying there ( does any one know if she is leaving any time soon..) Also when is Heather leaving????? I am a bit TIRED of her moaning and groaning and whining.. Ummmmmmmmmmm is Dot and Mr Bishop gonna have an "affair " LOL I am still wondering, did Ben get his hearing back while he was in the dention center and grow some ???? They could have found a different actor to play Ben this one does not look' ard ...I prefer the Benny Elliot :-)
JJ i saw his hearing aid last night!
Is Jane leaving?
Yeah.. I have seen his hearing aid a few time.. it is very small, blue and looks like the tip of his glasses.. I was hoping Shirley would deep fry Glenda's hair last night... she is such a cow...
Dutchgirl
09-03-2011, 11:42
Yeah.. I have seen his hearing aid a few time.. it is very small, blue and looks like the tip of his glasses.. I was hoping Shirley would deep fry Glenda's hair last night... she is such a cow...
I thought Shirley would use the deep frying pan myself. But that would have been gruesome.
parkerman
09-03-2011, 11:43
I thought Shirley would use the deep frying pan myself. But that would have been gruesome.
Yes, I thought Glenda had had her chips there...sorry, I'll get my coat....
Yes, I thought Glenda had had her chips there...sorry, I'll get my coat....
Groan!
But yes DG.. I thought that too.. Was really nice to see Shirley stand up for the boys against Phil... Phil blaming Ben.. how pathetic.. he was the one who dipped his wick so he should take blame for this
tammyy2j
09-03-2011, 11:58
I love the smack Shirley gave Phil I thought Glenda would get one from both her and Jane
I love the smack Shirley gave Phil I thought Glenda would get one from both her and Jane
That would have been good.. Loved the line from Jane to Shirley "lock up when you are done"....
So will Phil kill himself
parkerman
11-03-2011, 07:48
So will Phil kill himself
Not if Alan gets there first. :D
JustJodi
11-03-2011, 09:16
Ian really thinks Jane has forgiven him hasn't he???? How can some one be so damn forgiving ??? I guess if it was me I would have shown him to the door, or did what shirley did top Phil,, smacked him good and then took all his money ( that would have killed old Ian ) BTW I must have missed an episode or something, did Jane become Bobby's mom offically/legally ?? So have we seen the end of Shanice ( I really thought she was cute ..just like her big sis Lacey ) and her mom Martina ???? I am getting a bit tired of how Kat is treating Alfie,, Hes trying so hard ...Tonights episode should be interesting ,,,,,
tammyy2j
11-03-2011, 11:58
Ian really thinks Jane has forgiven him hasn't he???? How can some one be so damn forgiving ??? I guess if it was me I would have shown him to the door, or did what shirley did top Phil,, smacked him good and then took all his money ( that would have killed old Ian ) BTW I must have missed an episode or something, did Jane become Bobby's mom offically/legally ?? So have we seen the end of Shanice ( I really thought she was cute ..just like her big sis Lacey ) and her mom Martina ???? I am getting a bit tired of how Kat is treating Alfie,, Hes trying so hard ...Tonights episode should be interesting ,,,,,
Well didnt Jane cheat on Ian with Grant and he forgave her anyways Jane deserves better than Ian she should clean him out and leave
Well didnt Jane cheat on Ian with Grant and he forgave her anyways Jane deserves better than Ian she should clean him out and leave
It seems they always are just hurting each other.. what kind of marriage is that. Jane cheats with Grant, Ian helps Lucy abort baby, jane kisses Maz, Ian sleeps with Glenda.. and on and on and on
I can't see Phil killing himself, I hope he throws it back in Shirley's face and stays dry
i watched last night for the first time in ages...very very confused!
who was the little girl at kat and alfies?
why was shirley miserable (more miserable than usually)
Why did Jane randomly start crying?
Why did heather not want anyone to mention weddings?
What was the ring they were looking for at the start?
i watched last night for the first time in ages...very very confused!
who was the little girl at kat and alfies?
why was shirley miserable (more miserable than usually)
Why did Jane randomly start crying?
Why did heather not want anyone to mention weddings?
What was the ring they were looking for at the start?
Little girl is Shanice - she is a daughter of a friend of Kat and Alfie from Spain but her mum doesn't care about her at all
Shirley is more miserable cause she found out the day before her wedding tht Phil was doing his Aunt
Jane randomly cried cause Ian told her the day before that he was doing Phil's aunt too
See answer 2.. shirley was meant to get married
Shirley's engagement ring
JustJodi
11-03-2011, 12:56
Well didnt Jane cheat on Ian with Grant and he forgave her anyways Jane deserves better than Ian she should clean him out and leave
If I am not mistaken Jane and Ian were not even married when she and Grant had their little dalliance ...
If I am not mistaken Jane and Ian were not even married when she and Grant had their little dalliance ...
Yeah.. but it is still cheating.. she was in a relationship with him and planning to marry him.. Does it make less of an impact if you are NOT married? I don't think so
JustJodi
11-03-2011, 13:00
It seems they always are just hurting each other.. what kind of marriage is that. Jane cheats with Grant, Ian helps Lucy abort baby, jane kisses Maz, Ian sleeps with Glenda.. and on and on and on
I can't see Phil killing himself, I hope he throws it back in Shirley's face and stays dry
I think it is Ian who seems to hurt Jane over and over with his lies,, if any one should be walking out .. its Jane for sure !! Nah Phil won't kill himself, I agree,, he will probably flush the crack down the toilet and give the booze to some passing wino, or empty it out in front of Shirley and say NAH I'll stick around ....
JustJodi
11-03-2011, 13:03
Yeah.. but it is still cheating.. she was in a relationship with him and planning to marry him.. Does it make less of an impact if you are NOT married? I don't think so
I agree it was cheating,, but they were not married.. wasn't Grant still married to that Brazillian lady ?? at that time ???
I agree it was cheating,, but they were not married.. wasn't Grant still married to that Brazillian lady ?? at that time ???
yeah I think he was...
As I said before, there is a pair of them in it and their marriage is a sham in my opinion
parkerman
11-03-2011, 14:05
Phil was doing his Aunt
Jane randomly cried cause Ian told her the day before that he was doing Phil's aunt too
You put it so elegantly, Shiv! :D
Bother, phone went, did Phil and Shirley get married or not? Watched until Shirley ran out of registry office, saying she could not do it. Please someone tell me :) THANKS
tammyy2j
11-03-2011, 21:42
Bother, phone went, did Phil and Shirley get married or not? Watched until Shirley ran out of registry office, saying she could not do it. Please someone tell me :) THANKS
No wedding but they drove off into the sunset on honeymoon together happy every after
For some reason I felt a bit sick seeing Phil and Shirley getting passionate
Dutchgirl
12-03-2011, 20:42
Good on ya Shirley. Keep you own name and be your own person hear, hear!
Good on ya Shirley. Keep you own name and be your own person hear, hear!
I thought it was a good twist that Shirley decided not to marry Phil after all - I wasn't expecting that, but it is in keeping with her character.
Dutchgirl
12-03-2011, 22:49
I thought it was a good twist that Shirley decided not to marry Phil after all - I wasn't expecting that, but it is in keeping with her character.
I agree totally. Sometimes characters act against previous actions. And this was totally her style.
ive realised that there are some things you really dont want to see in HD, one of them is Phil Mitchell!
Thanks siobhan! Thats cleared loads up. Had no idea about the wedding hence the confusion.
parkerman
13-03-2011, 17:56
ive realised that there are some things you really dont want to see in HD, one of them is Phil Mitchell!
Shirley's not a pretty sight either!
Is Whitney really that naive and stupid
think she is more scared now than stupid
JustJodi
17-03-2011, 23:21
Is Whitney really that naive and stupid
apparently she is ....................
Is Whitney really that naive and stupid
Yeah... you have got to realise that she has been abused and used all her life so maybe she accepts this as normal... You can see she is doubting herself. When Lauren mentioned Tony and then when Janine came to see her, she said "it's not tony"... so there is doubt creeping in but she is also very stubborn and the only reason she went off in the car with Rob cause she didn't want to admit she was wrong to Janine and Lauren...
tammyy2j
18-03-2011, 15:53
Did Whitney ever have counselling after Tony?
Did Whitney ever have counselling after Tony?
I am not sure she did.. It was offered and social workers came around but I don't think she went
Dutchgirl
20-03-2011, 20:49
OMG how nauseating was that. Rob was so dark and sinister. When the car stopped at the end I thought it would be some of his mates. Luckily it was this family.
My heart was beating I just wanted to cry for Whitney. How many girls suffer this fate?
How much did they take out of the omnibus? I forgot to tape Friday so had to watch today.
Dutchgirl
22-03-2011, 16:09
OMG how nauseating was that. Rob was so dark and sinister. When the car stopped at the end I thought it would be some of his mates. Luckily it was this family.
My heart was beating I just wanted to cry for Whitney. How many girls suffer this fate?
How much did they take out of the omnibus? I forgot to tape Friday so had to watch today.
Just now I read the ten minute episode of last Friday. Thought I missed something.
I don't understand where Whitney is - I thought after Friday's shocking episode that she would return home. She asked the family who stopped in the car to call the police, so I thought she had escaped Rob.
I don't understand where Whitney is - I thought after Friday's shocking episode that she would return home. She asked the family who stopped in the car to call the police, so I thought she had escaped Rob.
Maybe she is embarrassed to come home..
tammyy2j
29-03-2011, 15:56
Surely Michael would try and get more out of Ronnie maybe follow her after she told she has a secret he can never know
Surely Michael would try and get more out of Ronnie maybe follow her after she told she has a secret he can never know
I thought it was funny..Michael: "why don't you like me".. Ronnie: "its a secret" :lol:
tammyy2j
29-03-2011, 16:34
I thought it was funny..Michael: "why don't you like me".. Ronnie: "its a secret" :lol:
She is doing my head in I cant wait for her exit now
She is doing my head in I cant wait for her exit now
They have taken some that could have been great and fun and turned her into a tragedy... it is was a waste of her talent as she is a really good actress and very likable as a person
Surely Michael would try and get more out of Ronnie maybe follow her after she told she has a secret he can never know
He might have been too stunned to react straight away
tammyy2j
29-03-2011, 18:36
He might have been too stunned to react straight away
Or he just dont know how to act
Dutchgirl
29-03-2011, 21:30
I hate what they are doing to Jack. He is so nasty to Ronnie. Even if she did have a post natal depression it is the wrong way to go around things. He should not leave James with Ronnie if she is like that.
You just have to love Jean she is great with everyone.
but Jack has tried the sympathetic husband, supportive husband, maybe he just does not know what else to do
JustJodi
30-03-2011, 00:22
Ok have we seen the end of Ronnie??? :wall: She left and left the baby with Roxy:searchme:.. Kat will never know that her child is alive, did she not leave a note, tape recording, something:(,, this is totally driving me NUTS.. Ohhhhh it was a joy to see Jean again, she is just what Kat needed :clap:
We have not seen the end of Ronnie yet.
Jean with Kat last night totally pulled at my heart strings.. Gillian is a fantastic actress and she works well with everyone in EE especially when doing emotional scene.. The words she said to Kat last night were beautiful.. I love that she is back now and has Kat to bounce off like she did with Stacey.. Well done EE for keeping such a great actress
Dutchgirl
30-03-2011, 11:57
but Jack has tried the sympathetic husband, supportive husband, maybe he just does not know what else to do
It is probably true. But still leaving the baby with such an unstable mom. Makes my heart cringe.
but Jack has tried the sympathetic husband, supportive husband, maybe he just does not know what else to do
I don't think he is.. he was horrible to her last night..like he gave up on her... WE know what she is going through but he doesn't... with postnatal he could see if she can get someone, try the hospital or clinics, to come chat to her as that is what he thinks she is suffering from. And as DG said.. he did walk out and leave a child with an unstable mother
Michael annoyed me last night.. going on about how does Ronnie know how it feels.. he didn't even care when he heard and Ronnie should have told him how she lost Danielle..
Fatboy's father was not at all how I expected him tp be.
no, he was not what I expected, I agree with you :)
Dutchgirl
31-03-2011, 21:47
Oh boho to you Jack. If he cared about Ronnie that much he would know she wasn't an attention seeker. Or nmaybe he wants to convince himself that she is. She must have bruised his ego somewere. Please get him out he is so disapointing. He can learn something from Max.
Scott is really a bad actor and this storyline highlights his awful acting skills
kayuqtuq
01-04-2011, 08:23
We have not seen the end of Ronnie yet.
What a shame. I can't stand to see her miserable face a moment longer.
tammyy2j
01-04-2011, 23:08
Fatboy's father was not at all how I expected him tp be.
Me either
I thought his mum or dad was maybe coloured or asian
JustJodi
02-04-2011, 01:11
What a shame. I can't stand to see her miserable face a moment longer.
I am with U kay,,, but I do not think we will be suffering her face much longer ,,,,,,,,,,, gawd I hope we don't
Dutchgirl
02-04-2011, 15:56
It is not easy to watch Ronnie. it is dragging on to long. I know depression is hard and it can stay for a long time. But there isn't any progress now.
There is progress, Ronnie is getting the strength to do the right thing, but painful to observe, I agree
parkerman
02-04-2011, 20:20
What a shame. I can't stand to see her miserable face a moment longer.
Just think yourself lucky the producers were forced to shorten this storyline. It was originally supposed to go till Christmas!
JustJodi
06-04-2011, 00:09
Just think yourself lucky the producers were forced to shorten this storyline. It was originally supposed to go till Christmas!
for once the producers have done the right thing ...thanks for the heads up parkerman :-)
JustJodi
06-04-2011, 00:13
Ok gang what was your take on this evenings episode at the engagement party???? I thought Syed looked like a Prince that stepped out of the Arabian nights LOL..Poor Heather :-( Janine has $$$$$$$ signs in her eyes , her gramma is no dumb bunny.... Ricky getting busted,,,
Maybe it is just me but I thought that Yusef was completely disrespectful to his daughter who he claims to love. He invited Syed just to annoy Masood and it kinda ruined his daughter's big night.. that to me is disrespectful!
Loving Janine's grandmother.. you can see where Janine got her inner bitch from!!
Yeah, Yusef was disrespectful to his daughter, as well as plain cruel to Syed in using him to get to the Masoods (who continue to shock with their treatment of Syed). It seems Yusef will go to any lengths to get what he wants.
I'm so glad Tamwar stood up to his parents and told Syed to stay.
LostVoodoo
06-04-2011, 19:13
forget the treatment of Syed, i had no idea the walls of the resturaunt well made of polystyrene rather than concrete!
Dutchgirl
06-04-2011, 22:28
So why was the Masood baby still in a pram? He must be way too big.
So why was the Masood baby still in a pram? He must be way too big.
He is only a year and half.. Wasn't Syed wedding on New year 2010? he wasn't born then
He was born 19 February 2010, so is just over 1 year old
JustJodi
08-04-2011, 00:56
Has any one noticed how Massoood is so comfortable talking to Jane????I mean he tells her things he can not tell his wife.. Wonder how long it will take before Tam and Afia fess up that they are already hitched ?? or will this drag out till Christmas ??? Whatever happened to Syed and Tam's sister?? I seem to recall that she went "back packing" but that was an awful long time ago..plus she isn't mentioned. I am so glad Syed was not hurt any worse.. but that nasty doctor had to put the FEAR OF ALLAH in Zee to get her to go see him...Wonder if Christian saw Zee and the good Doctor in each others arms ???
parkerman
08-04-2011, 10:09
HWhatever happened to Syed and Tam's sister?? I seem to recall that she went "back packing" but that was an awful long time ago..plus she isn't mentioned.
Shabnam went back to Pakistan. She was mentioned a couple of times this week.
Yusef is not a nice man.. he is obviously still in love with Zainab and will do anything to get her back, including making her defy her husband... Mas and Zainab need to talk to each other.. Both were afraid of hurting the other if they went to see Syed.. If they talked, they would realise they both want to make amends with their son.. I think Tam should just tell them outright he is married and will be still Syed brother
parkerman
08-04-2011, 10:36
In some ways I agree that Yusef is not behaving entirely honourably, but that's what love will do to you! I also think it's the case that he was probably wronged by Zainab and Mas in the past through being held responsible for what happened to Zainab when, in fact, he was actually trying to help her. So I do have some sympathy with Yusef.
Plus I think that Ace Bhatti is an extremely fine actor!
I agree. he is a fine actor... and yes, he did try to help her but Zainab was put through hell by his family and Mas was her saviour as such... but.. what was his marriage to Afia's mother if even after all this time, he still is that much in love with her.. it seems very obsessive. Is it love? or is it revenge, anger, possession??
parkerman
08-04-2011, 10:49
Yes, I think the Masood/Yusef relationship is very complex and is an excellent storyline, probably one of the best Eastenders has done insofar as exploring the interaction between different characters with the added complications of Tam/Afia and Syed giving further dimensions to it.
Plus, of course, it's not just Bhatti, but all of them are excellent actors which helps make the whole thing more believable. As far as characterisation and acting goes, this whole storyline is one of the best (if not THE best) Eastenders has ever attempted and so far it is coming off.
I like the fact is it not explosive, in your face, total drama drama drama.. it is done very well, played brilliant by those involved. Syed gay story was big drama but everything around that has been done so quietly that you do get dragged into it without even realising.. That is good script writing and good acting...
parkerman
08-04-2011, 11:04
Absolutely agree.
I must admit I haven't seen any love for Zainab in Yusef's actions - I thought he was trying to split the family out of revenge. I don't know that he's capable of love.
I must admit I haven't seen any love for Zainab in Yusef's actions - I thought he was trying to split the family out of revenge. I don't know that he's capable of love.
That is what I was asking earlier.. is it love or is it possession/obsession?.. and that is what is so good about this storyline, you don't know and you spot things that could be love, you spot things that are revenge.. so subtle
Dutchgirl
12-04-2011, 21:52
I loved todays episode.
Banter, drama etc....
Jay is so nice, don't you just love him?
80's disco brill.. Must be getting old:(
JustJodi
12-04-2011, 23:43
I loved todays episode.
Banter, drama etc....
Jay is so nice, don't you just love him?
80's disco brill.. Must be getting old:(
I thought it was a good episode too.
I secretly think Jay is a virgin as well...those two are so cute together,Jay is "softer" around Abi. I also like Lauren and Whitney's friendship too.
I am so looking forward to when Ronnie actually CRACKS, and confesses every thing,,,
Jay is so much softer with Abi but I also think he is embarassed that she is so young and gets slagged by Shirley and Ben about her.
Was really funny last night.. Why doesn't Ronnie just kick Michael in the crotch? He is so full of himself and deluded that Ronnie is into him... I think he is just jealous of Jack and wants what he has...
80's music rules... Kim is so funny with that guy :lol:
Dutchgirl
13-04-2011, 11:28
Jay is so much softer with Abi but I also think he is embarassed that she is so young and gets slagged by Shirley and Ben about her.
Was really funny last night.. Why doesn't Ronnie just kick Michael in the crotch? He is so full of himself and deluded that Ronnie is into him... I think he is just jealous of Jack and wants what he has...
80's music rules... Kim is so funny with that guy :lol:
Michael is an *** hitting on his best friends wife.
Michael is an *** hitting on his best friends wife.
Totally.. even if he does think Ronnie fancies him, he is bang out of order for trying it on with her, as you said, he "best friends" wife but also his girlfriends sister!! He needs to be smacked upside the head
Jane trying to kiss Greg was out of order too, doesn't matter if she was drunk
I loved todays episode.
Banter, drama etc....
Jay is so nice, don't you just love him?
80's disco brill.. Must be getting old:(
Yes very enjoyable I wished there was more scenes earlier than this wedding week with Max and Tanya
what a crap wedding ceremony and even worse accident :(
Dutchgirl
14-04-2011, 22:04
So how bad a girl has Tanja been? I hope they will explore that side of her some more.
Wow her mum looks like a right old drag queen. I rememeber the actress being in a series about a gang of women whith husbands in jail. Is that right?
I didnt know Tanya and Greg were good friends with Pat, Ricky, Janine and Janine's granny
What was with Jane's hair it was awful
JustJodi
14-04-2011, 23:43
I am so tired of Ronnies LONGGGGGGGGG face ( she is gonna trip over it pretty soon ) and her stuttering to say something then snapping her mouth shut, tomorrow will not get here fast enough. There were alot of people at the wedding that were not even friends of Tanya and/or Greg.. Ok Jane ,, and Ian sure but the rest I guess were just butts to fill up the pews.. and I totally agree the wedding ceremony was AWFUL !!!!!! That little baby (tommy/James)is only what almost 4 mos old and it looked like a year old baby in the pram, then when Ronnie was holding it, it looked like a new born ..geezee..but you guys know me well enough that I am always the visual person catching stuff like that LOL
Bring on the ACCIDENT DRAMA tomorrow, and Ronnie has got to CONFESS soon !!!!!
Ronnie's face, didn't bother me.. Tanya having doubts, didn't bother me.. but what boiled my blood last night was Michael... coming on to Ronnie, telling her that he loves the thrill of the chase.. that is your mates wife, you GF sister.. ffs man!! you are a sleezy slimy ball.. I wanted to punch him in the face.. arrgghh!!!
I can't wait for Ronnie to reveal all and watch that creeps face drop when he realised she doesn't fancy him, she just didn't want him around the baby... breathe Siobhan, breathe
tammyy2j
15-04-2011, 12:10
Ronnie's face, didn't bother me.. Tanya having doubts, didn't bother me.. but what boiled my blood last night was Michael... coming on to Ronnie, telling her that he loves the thrill of the chase.. that is your mates wife, you GF sister.. ffs man!! you are a sleezy slimy ball.. I wanted to punch him in the face.. arrgghh!!!
I can't wait for Ronnie to reveal all and watch that creeps face drop when he realised she doesn't fancy him, she just didn't want him around the baby... breathe Siobhan, breathe
I think when Jack told him he never pull someone like Ronnie only like Roxy and that Ronnie was classy he wanted her more - yes she is real classy stole a baby classy
The wedding and accident were terrible
[QUOTE=tammyy2j;746236- yes she is real classy stole a baby classy
[/QUOTE]
Love this comment!!!
He does not know that though, does he
tammyy2j
15-04-2011, 12:42
Jack forgets he too was with Roxy and has a baby with her and airhead Sam
Jack forgets he too was with Roxy and has a baby with her and airhead Sam
Yeah.. I think he does forget that.. see Michael got that dig in yesterday saying Amy wanted to sit with her dad in the church
megan999
15-04-2011, 18:03
I actually enjoyed Tanya's wedding and thought that the car crash was quite convincing. However, I think that the Argee Bargie's roof collapse was poorly done in comparision. Can't wait for Ronnie's secret to be revealed. Am sick of Ronnie now ! I missed the episode where Jane and Ian decided to go for a divorce. What happened there?
Thank heavens, it is over for Ronnie
Dutchgirl
15-04-2011, 22:12
Thank heavens, it is over for Ronnie
Thank heavens we wont have to endure any more.
But still the episode was heart wrenching. I spilled some tears. Jessie Wallace and Samantha Womack were actualy very good. They have chemistry too. Sorry that we won't see any of that.
Jean is so endearing.
So how much trouble are we in for in the marriage bliss?
I liked all the different stuff happening today.
Michael is stuck up.
Jack was not good to Ronnie. If he really thought she was having post natal depression he should have never surrendered the keys to her. God knows what she could have done. He went about it all in the wrong way. He should never have been so angry with her. And surely not around an infant. They pick up on these things.
Sorry but I thought tonight's episode was a let down I expected more with Ronnie confessing
Max and Abi made miracle recoveries surely they would be more hurt from the accident - so affair now for Tanya and Max or will she leave Greg for Max
JustJodi
16-04-2011, 00:29
I have to say that Max and Abi surviving that accident was a MIRACLE only EE could pull off..I am not sure that Tanya realizes what she did with Max..I think she will stay with Greg for the time being..Glad that Ronnie confessed, but was disapointed in the "delivery" of her confession..that sneer that kat had on her face was "deadly" , I thought she was gonna clobber Ronnie..poor Jack,, is in the dark,, and now will have to mourn a child he never got to know..Kat and Alfie will have to learn to be parents..again ( they only had lil Tommy for what 24 hours )Next week should be INTERESTING...
parkerman
16-04-2011, 09:07
Sorry but I thought tonight's episode was a let down I expected more with Ronnie confessing
Max and Abi made miracle recoveries surely they would be more hurt from the accident - so affair now for Tanya and Max or will she leave Greg for Max
Not only did they recover quickly, but they were in and out of hospital like a dose of salts. If only all A&Es were like that. There seemed to be no doctors or nurses around. Also, wouldn't the police want to speak to Max about the accident and breathalyse him? Talking of the police, when Ronnie phoned them, would they not have arranged for Social Service to be there? Would they just let a clearly unbalanced woman just hand over her baby to someone else without a bit of investigation?
And yes, I agree with JustJodi about the number of people invited to the wedding. How do they know Janine's grandmother!? Still, it was good to see Winston there.
Welcome to the world of Eastenders...
Having said that, I think it was another fine performance from Jake Wood and from Jo Joyner. There looks like some mileage in this story.
I enjoyed it last night... as Parkerman said, great performance from Jake and Jo.. they work really well together
thought Ronnie's confesssion was very calmly delivered... she just resigned herself and finally told the truth... Poor Kat.. she doesn't know what is going on...Jack is going to be so devastated.. Caught the highlights of next week after the episode yesterday..looks promising
sean slater
16-04-2011, 14:55
Yes, I thought yesterdays episode was awesome! Normally with those episodes the cliffhanger is when the bombshell is delivered and then you have to wait till the following week to see the outcome, so I'm glad they actually gave us something. Delivered the argument straight away, cos the audience have been waiting soo long for it!
Kat and Alfie, I love them as a couple. Both have them have been breaking their hearts over this and I am really hoping that they will have a bit of happiness after this stuff is resolved. Michael needs to stay the hell away. He is smarmy, cocky and he drives me mad!
I hope that Ronnie is given help, put in a hospital where she can be looked after, instead of being jailed. I don't think any jury could accuse her of being malicious.
tammyy2j
17-04-2011, 21:20
Thank heavens, it is over for Ronnie
Thank heavens it is over for from us the viewers
Ronnie got on my nerves, the way she reacted when being questioned, but I cried with Jack when he said good-bye to the baby :crying:
parkerman
19-04-2011, 09:23
I think you're being a bit harsh on Ronnie. The poor girl is very mentally disturbed. Of course what she did was unacceptable but her reaction to it all is the result of what she has suffered her whole life. She has lost two children - in fact three, if you think that she lost her first daughter twice effectively. In addition to that she has a tremendous feeling of guilt for what she's done to Kat and Alfie and also to Jack. Her mind is in turmoil. You can't expect her to react in a rational way with all that going on inside her.
My heart went out to both Ronnie and Kat last night... Ronnie, as you said, effectively lost 3 kids, her daughter twice and her baby son..plus she also suffered a miscarriage.. Danielle dying in her arms had a huge affect on her as you could see from last night when the doctor asked how long she was having flash backs and she said "2 years and 16 days".. I knew then she was thinking of Danielle.. What she did to Kat was very very wrong and Ronnie knows that.. When she was explaining that their were 2 mums, 2 dads but only 1 baby, my heart broke... She kept Tommy for Jack...
Poor Jack, the scene with him saying goodbye to his baby was heartbreaking... Loved the bit where Alfie was talking to Tommy telling him about Kat and her big bum.. that baby is so cute... I hope EE go more into Ronnie's mental state of mind
parkerman
19-04-2011, 10:13
Yes, I'd forgotten the miscarriage as well.
Yes, I'd forgotten the miscarriage as well.
Plus an abusive childhood.. I am not condoning what she did but she was not in the right state of mind.. Even Ronnie doesn't condone what she didl, tell the doctor she didn't want a Get out of Jail free card but I think putting Ronnie in prison is not the answer.. she needs help and support..
This storyline was never just about cot death, it was about mental healthy too.. Ronnie had to bury all that inside her so she could be the big sister or as she said herself "the good daughter".. having a baby at 14, taken away from you, your mother leaving you and confessing years later that she left cause she was jealous that Archie was abusing Ronnie.. how would that affect you..
I understand Kat's reaction too.. she had buried her child, even if it really wasn't hers, that pain was all to real for her
tammyy2j
19-04-2011, 11:34
Jessie as Kat was brillant last night as was Alfie and Jack - I felt so sorry for Jack
Yes Ronnie has been through an awful lot losing her children but she of all people knows what it is like to lose a child and she choose to take Kat's baby and keep him until now she does need help but she also needs to pay imo
parkerman
19-04-2011, 11:52
she of all people knows what it is like to lose a child and she choose to take Kat's baby and keep him until now she does need help but she also needs to pay imo
Spoken like a completely sane person....which Ronnie is far from being.
Dutchgirl
19-04-2011, 12:11
I did shed some tears it was all so emotional. I even felt for Jack, losing his boy. Even when he went all wrong about handling Ronnie.
Tremendous acting from all actors. Nice Easter reference, new beginning.( don't know if they planned it this way)
Jessie Wallace and Shane Ritchie were always my favourites. The humor is so good. Even in hard times.
I do hope someone takes away the babu's cot from th Queen Vic.
I fully understand Ronnie's behaviour, with all that she has been through, I just found it irritating to watch :(
tammyy2j
19-04-2011, 12:56
What was up with Ronnie and her "flashbacks" no mention of these ever before
I feel the writers rushed this storyline ending and now want to make us feel sympathy for Ronnie since she is coming back later in the year - well thats my take on it anyways
What was up with Ronnie and her "flashbacks" no mention of these ever before
Course there was no mention of it cause she didn't speak to anyone about it, however she did tell Kat that the pain never goes away when you lose a child.. we just though she was talking about James but she was also talking about Danelle.. and it was only when a Doctor talked to her that we now know what was going on in Ronnies head.. isn't that the case in life, you can't read peoples mind, sometimes they don't talk to anyone and keep it all inside..
She was just after having a baby, he dies and she was not the right frame of mind when she took Tommy.. We did see moment of clarity with Ronnie.. when she was bringing the baby back and she bumps into Jack.. but we have seen her just sit there in a zombie state...
Again, I don't condone what she did to Kat, she has hurt a women in a way that a woman should never ever be hurt but I am glad EE are showing the mental health side of things... Even jean last night had sympathy for Ronnie and she knows what Ronnie going through.. she has mental issues herself...
tammyy2j
19-04-2011, 13:33
Course there was no mention of it cause she didn't speak to anyone about it, however she did tell Kat that the pain never goes away when you lose a child.. we just though she was talking about James but she was also talking about Danelle.. and it was only when a Doctor talked to her that we now know what was going on in Ronnies head.. isn't that the case in life, you can't read peoples mind, sometimes they don't talk to anyone and keep it all inside..
She was just after having a baby, he dies and she was not the right frame of mind when she took Tommy.. We did see moment of clarity with Ronnie.. when she was bringing the baby back and she bumps into Jack.. but we have seen her just sit there in a zombie state...
Again, I don't condone what she did to Kat, she has hurt a women in a way that a woman should never ever be hurt but I am glad EE are showing the mental health side of things... Even jean last night had sympathy for Ronnie and she knows what Ronnie going through.. she has mental issues herself...
I wish we had seen her talk about Danielle more even if to herself if that makes sense
I just feel because of all the controversy surrounding the storyline the ending was rushed saying that I am glad it is over with
I found last night's episode really gruelling to watch, especially the interview with Ronnie. Like Siobhan and Parkerman, I can only have sympathy with her and the terrible pain she's in.
I sincerely hope that Kat and Alfie are happy now they've got Tommy back, but I fear there will be more repercussions.
Big Mo with the Laxatives was funny, and Charlie being back was lovely.
OMG.. when Charlie walked in the door and Kat ran to him was one of the sweetest moments of last night.. No matter how old you are, every girl needs their daddy in a moment of crisis.. was so beautifully done.
tammyy2j
22-04-2011, 22:49
OMG.. when Charlie walked in the door and Kat ran to him was one of the sweetest moments of last night.. No matter how old you are, every girl needs their daddy in a moment of crisis.. was so beautifully done.
Yes it was great seeing Charlie back
parkerman
23-04-2011, 09:10
Ben's cuts and bruises healed pretty quickly didn't they?
Dutchgirl
23-04-2011, 14:37
Ben's cuts and bruises healed pretty quickly didn't they?
They sure did.
Can someone pleas kick Michael out. He annoys me.
Alfie Moon has to be one of the most loveable soap characters ever
Alfie Moon has to be one of the most loveable soap characters ever
I love the way he is funny but so kind and considerate.. it pulled at my heart when he had his chat with Jack
I love the way he is funny but so kind and considerate.. it pulled at my heart when he had his chat with Jack
He will make a great dad to Tommy
Michael seems to show no emotion towards Tommy I can see comparsions already between him and Archie
He will make a great dad to Tommy
Michael seems to show no emotion towards Tommy I can see comparsions already between him and Archie
for michael it seem like a baby is a total hinderance
Dutchgirl
28-04-2011, 21:14
Again Jessie Wallace was so convincing. The cemistry between her and Shane Ritchie is so amazing. If was defenitaley a good thing bringing them back. I rmember she did not want to quit EE.
I felt sorry for Jack. Vanessa did a good thing there. Nice to see her with some emotion for a change.
I thought that about Vanessa cos you only ever see her interact with Max at least shes branching out
parkerman
29-04-2011, 11:24
Yes, I think the Masood/Yusef relationship is very complex and is an excellent storyline, probably one of the best Eastenders has done insofar as exploring the interaction between different characters with the added complications of Tam/Afia and Syed giving further dimensions to it.
Plus, of course, it's not just Bhatti, but all of them are excellent actors which helps make the whole thing more believable. As far as characterisation and acting goes, this whole storyline is one of the best (if not THE best) Eastenders has ever attempted and so far it is coming off.
Sorry to quote myself (!) but I just wanted to add that I think, in true Eastenders style, the scriptwriters have turned what was an excellent story into a ridiculous one. All that garbage about winning £8000 on two horse races etc. Oh dear....
Sorry to quote myself (!) but I just wanted to add that I think, in true Eastenders style, the scriptwriters have turned what was an excellent story into a ridiculous one. All that garbage about winning £8000 on two horse races etc. Oh dear....
It is possible.. depends on the odd.. he started with 50 on an 11/1 shot. .ends up with 600.. if put all that on 13/1 then he could make 8000! however, it think it was more than the 2 horses... we only see Jane pick too...
tammyy2j
29-04-2011, 11:29
Masood is a hypocrite, he gambles, nearly has an affair with Jane yet he throws his gay son out of the family - I am getting sick of the Massods now mainly Mas and Zainab
parkerman
29-04-2011, 11:53
It is possible.. depends on the odd.. he started with 50 on an 11/1 shot. .ends up with 600.. if put all that on 13/1 then he could make 8000! however, it think it was more than the 2 horses... we only see Jane pick too...
I know it's possible, but how likely is it? And if it's more than 2 horses that makes it even more unbelievable. Perhaps we can all get out of our money worries by gambling on the horses - it obviously works.
I know it's possible, but how likely is it? And if it's more than 2 horses that makes it even more unbelievable. Perhaps we can all get out of our money worries by gambling on the horses - it obviously works.
You would be surprised.. I worked in an betting office (on and off) for 10 years.. and you get some people who win big randomly!! and if it was an occasion track like ascot or cheltenham then the outsiders (big odd horses) win more than the favourites... but in the end the bookie always wins.. as my dad says (and it is a reason I don't gamble) "you never see a bookmaker on a bicycle so tell me, who wins? "
Dutchgirl
01-05-2011, 20:01
You would be surprised.. I worked in an betting office (on and off) for 10 years.. and you get some people who win big randomly!! and if it was an occasion track like ascot or cheltenham then the outsiders (big odd horses) win more than the favourites... but in the end the bookie always wins.. as my dad says (and it is a reason I don't gamble) "you never see a bookmaker on a bicycle so tell me, who wins? "
Hahaha. Here you do!
Dutchgirl
05-05-2011, 22:57
So Denise was abit mean to Heather. She can pull a man more easily. And saying to poor heather nast things about a silly what was it again?
Ian is such a dumb little man. i knew it was to good to be true. She looked to classy for him.
I don't think she was mean as such.. I think heather was over reacting.. yes it was really to her but denise was pointing out that technically it wasn't real and Heather just assumed everyone was talking about her..
Ian was so funny last night... flashing his "Girlfriend" around like he does his cash and both are going to leave him :lol: He reminds me of all those flash guys you see in pubs that brag and brag.. what women see in him I never know cause he has had some fit wives (cindy and Mel)...
Dutchgirl
06-05-2011, 11:40
I don't think she was mean as such.. I think heather was over reacting.. yes it was really to her but denise was pointing out that technically it wasn't real and Heather just assumed everyone was talking about her..
I meant when Roxy left. Heather should not have slapped her
I meant when Roxy left. Heather should not have slapped her
I know where you are coming from... just cause Denise has been through a lot, it doesn't mean that Heather's "romance" was any less real to her but she did go way OTT with it
JustJodi
06-05-2011, 12:40
"I am so glad Jane grew a set after she had that chat with the ESCORT that Ian hired..Ian has blown it, if all of us were honest, Jane was the only wife that actually LOVED the no good SOB:thumbsdow..this time around I sure hope she DOES NOT TAKE HIM BACK:nono:.. Bobby is not her child any way, and I do not remember any adoption papers being signed,, As soon as Jane leaves he will be out looking for some one else to rasie his son:thumbsdow. Micheal needs to leave,,, hes POOP:sick:,,, Its a matter of time before Jack hits rock bottom...Ok now i must have missed something is FATBOY AND MERCY going to get married, to keep her from being deported ?????
JustJodi
06-05-2011, 12:43
Ian was so funny last night... flashing his "Girlfriend" around like he does his cash and both are going to leave him :lol: He reminds me of all those flash guys you see in pubs that brag and brag.. what women see in him I never know cause he has had some fit wives (cindy and Mel)...
those fit women knew Ian had a bit of money thats why they hung around as "long" as they did... I honestly think Jane was the only one who actually LOVED him for warts and all,, just saying,,,
those fit women knew Ian had a bit of money thats why they hung around as "long" as they did... I honestly think Jane was the only one who actually LOVED him for warts and all,, just saying,,,
Yeah agree with you there.. Ian was too stupid to realise this and treated her so badly
LostVoodoo
07-05-2011, 10:57
I know where you are coming from... just cause Denise has been through a lot, it doesn't mean that Heather's "romance" was any less real to her but she did go way OTT with it
i think you also need to remember the fact that Denise really did lose the man she loved, Kevin. plus Heather was being infuriating and she needed to get a bit of perspective.
JustJodi
07-05-2011, 16:25
Well folks is any one else getting tired of Jack's antics,, drinking himself to stupor??? I knew Raine was going to slip off the wagon when Phil rejected HER AGAIN...My partner wanted to know why V is always wearing WHITE, and is always doing the dishes/housework in a fancy WHITE suit ??? I think Julie would make a good friend for Kat.. she does need some "girl friends"..Was nice to see Billy again.. funny about all Ian's things being sold..Ian apparently has just figured out what he has LOST..I think its too late for them now, but with EE writers who knows, they will give Ian the same dialogue he used months ago or years ago, how sorry he was and to give him ANOTHER CHANCE to make it work,, ( cue ROLLING EYES ) I would love for Jane to find some one who really makes her happy but hey EE does not believe in HAPPINESS,,, Dot accepting a carerer wow that is a turn around...
.:SpIcYsPy:.
07-05-2011, 18:02
My partner wanted to know why V is always wearing WHITE, and is always doing the dishes/housework in a fancy WHITE suit ???
I wonder the same thing every single time Vanessa appears on the screen :| Not only white but it appears to be the same 3 outfits! Thinking about it actually really annoys me..
Vanessa does need new outfits :D
.:SpIcYsPy:.
11-05-2011, 17:28
Really been enjoying EE as of late.. It's more of a comedy than a drama - Too many one-liners! :)
matt1378
13-05-2011, 05:05
Glad others noticed thought it was just me lol, don't know what she does all day either
JustJodi
13-05-2011, 13:01
Vanessa does need new outfits :D
OMG Thurs she had on a different outfit,, a fancy black sweater and black jeans .. i hate her hair ...LOL
JustJodi
13-05-2011, 13:12
Well well well looks like Denise is going to get her "some" from Usef....I wonder what is going to happen to Zainab's friendship with Denise once she finds out that her and her ex did the "deed"..I think that Zainab and Massood have alot of issues to work out..granted they have 4 kids together but they just do not trust the other..I think Usef lied to Zainab about the fire too, hes not as INNOCENT as hes trying to make out, hes a bad man :-P Denise sure knows how to pick them :-D
I loved last nights episode with Mercy Fat Boy, and all the other young EE folks was so cute,, Looks like Fat Boy let it slip that he was in love with Mercy..and Mercy must have liked it and feels the same ..
Boy Ben laid it out on Phil didn't he???... whoa !!! I just love Jay, hes grown up and I really like the guy..he is good for Ben.I think Ben should just go and live with Ian at least with Ian he will have a semblance of stability???
LostVoodoo
13-05-2011, 16:20
i'm starting to get my suspicions Syed might be Usef's son. when they pointed out last night that they have been married for 28 years I thought to myself that Syed was probably around that age himself, and since Zainab and Usef were actually married they probably would have done the deed. plus it's such a typical soap storyline lol.
JustJodi
13-05-2011, 16:45
i'm starting to get my suspicions Syed might be Usef's son. when they pointed out last night that they have been married for 28 years I thought to myself that Syed was probably around that age himself, and since Zainab and Usef were actually married they probably would have done the deed. plus it's such a typical soap storyline lol.
I was thinking the same thing a while back, then I thought NO ,, now I am feeling yea hes gotta be the daddy of Syed..yea would make sense that Usef has something over Zainab and this might just be it...
parkerman
13-05-2011, 17:00
Syed was born on 16 April 1984 when Zainab was 23 years old. She married Yusef when she was 15. Did she stay with him for 7/8 years?
How long would it have taken between leaving Yusef and marrying Mas? Or was Syed born before Zee and Mas were married? If Syed is Yusef's son does Mas know? Is that why he's always had it in for him?
Questions, questions....:hmm:
Zainab was having an affair with Mas before she divorced from Yusef... that is why his family set her on fire... she left him for Mas and went to UK where she had Syed. I don't think he is Yusef son..
Yusef is still in love with Zainab and I reckons he just wants revenge on Mas for stealing his woman!!
OMG Thurs she had on a different outfit,, a fancy black sweater and black jeans .. i hate her hair ...LOL
So Do I. How Much Hairspray? lol
Dutchgirl
14-05-2011, 20:40
I just love Heather.
I just love Heather.
that was really sweet last night.. out of all the people who should have been mad at Ben, she understood him...
Dutchgirl
14-05-2011, 20:45
that was really sweet last night.. out of all the people who should have been mad at Ben, she understood him...
Their hug brought tears to my eyes. Good acting from both of them!
Totally agree...I was very suprised at Shirley.. she is always defending Ben against Phil but she told Heather to delete all the emails when Ben was telling her about been bullied by Phil....
JustJodi
15-05-2011, 01:34
So Do I. How Much Hairspray? lol a can and a half per shot LOL can see the hair person standing in the back ground with a can :-P
JustJodi
15-05-2011, 01:35
Totally agree...I was very suprised at Shirley.. she is always defending Ben against Phil but she told Heather to delete all the emails when Ben was telling her about been bullied by Phil....
There is no way of knowing if Heather actually deleted all the e mails, but ya know, Ben may have them on his lappy..it tells a sad story of a lonely and bullied young man
a can and a half per shot LOL can see the hair person standing in the back ground with a can :-P
Bet her hair feels awful after though, I know mine would xD
tammyy2j
17-05-2011, 13:11
Is it normal to have 3 godparents at UK christenings?
I thought Alfie was so sweet last night with Michael and Jack inviting them to be there, I wished Charlie was there also and it was nice that the baby is named Tommy Alfred Charles Moon
I was wonder that myself Tammy.. I know you can have up to 4 people in Ireland but didn't think it was compulsory to have 3 in UK.. and I have never heard of Godparents reading something out to the child...
My son has two godparents, there was never a question of having to have 3, unless rules have changed. Not sure whether Tommy was christened according to Protestant or Catholic faith, maybe there is a difference between the two? :hmm:
tammyy2j
17-05-2011, 14:04
I was wonder that myself Tammy.. I know you can have up to 4 people in Ireland but didn't think it was compulsory to have 3 in UK.. and I have never heard of Godparents reading something out to the child...
My sister could only have 2 people as godparents for a catholic christening in Ireland
I am curious what faith Tommy was christened in?
Was so sweet seeing Kat give Tommy To Jack. So he could hold him
JustJodi
17-05-2011, 17:25
My son has two godparents, there was never a question of having to have 3, unless rules have changed. Not sure whether Tommy was christened according to Protestant or Catholic faith, maybe there is a difference between the two? :hmm:
Didn't I see Michael CROSS himself after the prayer.. guessing hes a CATHOLIC cos Protestants do not CROSS themselves,, dunno just an observation ...
JustJodi
17-05-2011, 17:28
she is right to let Jack hold Tommy ,,it was not his fault...he wasn't even in Walford when the incident occured. I did notice Alfie was a bit uncomfortable with it.
I thought the necklace meaning was love KAT Kat, Alfie, tommy.. sweet!
tammyy2j
17-05-2011, 17:42
I thought the necklace meaning was love KAT Kat, Alfie, tommy.. sweet!
Yes Aflie is so sweet
Has Michael ever holded Tommy or shown any affection towards him at all? He is his child after all and when he first returned he was anxious to see the baby but very distant now but maybe that is for Alfie's sake
JustJodi
17-05-2011, 17:52
I thought the necklace meaning was love KAT Kat, Alfie, tommy.. sweet!
oH i AGREE it was sweet and thoughtful,, awww yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
JustJodi
17-05-2011, 17:54
I do not even think Michael has ever held the baby not even when Tommy was thought to be James,,
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