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tammyy2j
06-05-2016, 21:22
Is Andy connected to Danielle and Joel or Carl?

I thought Kathy was going to blurt out Bobby is a killer to Buster and has to stay away at boarding school, did her and Buster do more than kiss?

Martin and Kush are friends again, when did that happen :searchme:

I thought maybe Glenda was working with Roxy trying to con money from Ronnie and Jack, is she gone now?

Dazzle
07-05-2016, 03:30
The acting in the scene where Kathy and Buster kissed was sooooo cringeworthy...

lizann
07-05-2016, 16:41
The acting in the scene where Kathy and Buster kissed was sooooo cringeworthy...

and quick, the smell of fish didn't put her off him, could kathy spill bobby's killer secret to buster, it isn't a secret when so many know

ian using the murder of his daughter to sell his restaurant what a weasel he always will be

parkerman
07-05-2016, 18:06
and quick, the smell of fish didn't put her off him, could kathy spill bobby's killer secret to buster, it isn't a secret when so many know



I think by the latest reckoning Buster is the only person in the whole of Walford, apart from the police, who doesn't know that Bobby is the killer.

flappinfanny
07-05-2016, 22:57
I think by the latest reckoning Buster is the only person in the whole of Walford, apart from the police, who doesn't know that Bobby is the killer. And Shrimpy. :D

flappinfanny
07-05-2016, 22:58
The best thing about this weeks episodes, was Glenda's hair. Lovely. :)

lizann
08-05-2016, 13:27
And Shrimpy. :D

does winston know

donna judging jay after all the bad things her mother and brother done what an hypocritic so many in soaps

lizann
08-05-2016, 13:27
And Shrimpy. :D

does winston know

donna judging jay after all the bad things her mother and brother done what an hypocritic so many in soaps

parkerman
08-05-2016, 15:16
does winston know



Winston knows everything. :ninja:

parkerman
08-05-2016, 19:22
By the way, just as a matter of interest, does anyone know what's happened to the worst villain in the whole of soap history?

In case you don't recognise the description, I mean Gavin of course.

Dazzle
08-05-2016, 19:26
By the way, just as a matter of interest, does anyone know what's happened to the worst villain in the whole of soap history?

In case you don't recognise the description, I mean Gavin of course.

:D

Last thing I remember he drove off with his sister Margaret. Wasn't there some talk of a plan he was going to set in motion?

What a let down the character's been... :thumbsdow

Perdita
08-05-2016, 19:35
:D

Last thing I remember he drove off with his sister Margaret. Wasn't there some talk of a plan he was going to set in motion?

What a let down the character's been... :thumbsdow

Absolutely!!! Surely the timing is off now should they start to re-introduce him with some evil doings??? :hmm:

Dazzle
08-05-2016, 19:46
Absolutely!!! Surely the timing is off now should they start to re-introduce him with some evil doings??? :hmm:

I agree. If there is something big in the works, it now feels like too little too late.

flappinfanny
08-05-2016, 22:45
Congrats to EastEnders for winning the Bafta tonight for the Best continuing drama, not sure they deserved it, I would have given it to Holby, but at least it didn't go to Coronation Street.

Pleased so many luvvies were sticking up for the BBC, (who won over half of the awards) ahead of the White paper on the BBC coming out next week.

maidmarian
08-05-2016, 22:58
:D

Last thing I remember he drove off with his sister Margaret. Wasn't there some talk of a plan he was going to set in motion?

What a let down the character's been... :thumbsdow

I agree but think he may re-emerge as one of
many "new" characters rumoured to be introduced by
new director.

After all Soap viewers are known to be a bit dim
and forgetful ( in SWs eyes) . Probably wont
notice or remember earlier storyline:nono:

lizann
08-05-2016, 23:38
By the way, just as a matter of interest, does anyone know what's happened to the worst villain in the whole of soap history?

In case you don't recognise the description, I mean Gavin of course.

he should be back for a 2nd go with claudette

flappinfanny
10-05-2016, 00:36
Loving Belinda. Mick better watch out. :D

I must admit I did enjoy the Carter scenes tonight and I found Shirley highly amusing coming out of the Caf with a sarnie. Andy is turning out to be an intriguing character.

Dazzle
10-05-2016, 02:45
Loving Belinda. Mick better watch out. :D

I must admit I did enjoy the Carter scenes tonight and I found Shirley highly amusing coming out of the Caf with a sarnie. Andy is turning out to be an intriguing character.

Belinda's a very entertaining character and the actress fits right into the show. I think Belinda would eat Mick alive given half a chance! :eek:

Monday's was a surprisingly good episode considering very little of note actually happened until Peggy's appearance in the last scene.

tammyy2j
10-05-2016, 14:09
I didn't like any of the Carter scenes and I am tiring already of Ronnie and Jack :thumbsdow

I do like Belinda and think she clearly fancies Mick

Dazzle
11-05-2016, 02:09
I know Peggy isn't a popular character on here, but I've always enjoyed the character and am already feeling sad about her impending death. I thought the juxtaposition of Peggy and Sonia's hospital appointments was effective.

Belinda and Gary...what a saucy pair they are. How are Mick and Linda going to get out of that? :p

Rear window
11-05-2016, 08:32
I know Peggy isn't a popular character on here, but I've always enjoyed the character and am already feeling sad about her impending death. I thought the juxtaposition of Peggy and Sonia's hospital appointments was effective.

Belinda and Gary...what a saucy pair they are. How are Mick and Linda going to get out of that? :p



Urgh! It was horrid. Did you see the keys being dropped in to the bowl when she took his car keys off him?


I did think the scenes with the results were good. I did like Stacey going with her. I like Stacey. I do fear those toilets are going to be there still at Christmas though.

tammyy2j
11-05-2016, 13:36
I know Peggy isn't a popular character on here, but I've always enjoyed the character and am already feeling sad about her impending death. I thought the juxtaposition of Peggy and Sonia's hospital appointments was effective.

Belinda and Gary...what a saucy pair they are. How are Mick and Linda going to get out of that? :p

I thought Peggy would bump into Sonia and Stacey at the hospital

It is going to be very sad, as much as you dislike Peggy or Babs, Peggy is a legendary soap icon character

I already feel teary eyed :(

I liked Sal being back

lizann
11-05-2016, 18:08
so can we assume phil was in contact with peg and sal since her reveal to him when he was drunk and he has kept the other FAMILY in the dark or did ronnie know

Dazzle
11-05-2016, 19:31
so can we assume phil was in contact with peg and sal since her reveal to him when he was drunk and he has kept the other FAMILY in the dark or did ronnie know

I can't work out whether Phil's been in contact with his mum or not. I suppose they did part on very bad terms, but it seems unthinkable Phil would have ignored her since the cancer reveal. I'm pretty sure Ronnie didn't know because she'd have made sure she visited Peggy.

lizann
11-05-2016, 23:49
I can't work out whether Phil's been in contact with his mum or not. I suppose they did part on very bad terms, but it seems unthinkable Phil would have ignored her since the cancer reveal. I'm pretty sure Ronnie didn't know because she'd have made sure she visited Peggy.

sober phil would be in contact at least i think he would and ronnie wasn't as upset as i would think she should be for hearing for the 1st time her aunt has cancer and is dying

lizann
11-05-2016, 23:49
I can't work out whether Phil's been in contact with his mum or not. I suppose they did part on very bad terms, but it seems unthinkable Phil would have ignored her since the cancer reveal. I'm pretty sure Ronnie didn't know because she'd have made sure she visited Peggy.

sober phil would be in contact at least i think he would and ronnie wasn't as upset as i would think she should be for hearing for the 1st time her aunt has cancer and is dying

Dazzle
12-05-2016, 00:14
sober phil would be in contact at least i think he would and ronnie wasn't as upset as i would think she should be for hearing for the 1st time her aunt has cancer and is dying

Ice queen Ronnie doesn't do emotion. :p Nothing's been said about anyone else but Phil knowing so I'm going to assume they didn't unless we're told otherwise.

Splashy
12-05-2016, 02:56
Im all sorts of uninterested in the story lines. As a gamblerholic I hated the adverts for online gambling Windsor did, was she that hard up she had to lure inocents into wasting their hard earned from the comfort of their soon to be repossed home?

The carp story makes me chuckle, a relative did the same stealing coy. bragged about it ... it didnt end well.. in this case no coy could be proved as missing, Mick could cla9m he was there on the invite of the couple now they had been invited and as such the Police cant use most cctv in eveidence, I know all about that one. I suspect the swinging routine is a wind up.. something they can laugh about and then become best mates over.

Wow I love Shirley, how fishy fred could pick mizz whiney sob story over her gawd knows.

Roll on Grant

Splashy
12-05-2016, 02:56
Im all sorts of uninterested in the story lines. As a gamblerholic I hated the adverts for online gambling Windsor did, was she that hard up she had to lure inocents into wasting their hard earned from the comfort of their soon to be repossed home?

The carp story makes me chuckle, a relative did the same stealing coy. bragged about it ... it didnt end well.. in this case no coy could be proved as missing, Mick could cla9m he was there on the invite of the couple now they had been invited and as such the Police cant use most cctv in eveidence, I know all about that one. I suspect the swinging routine is a wind up.ruse de guerre. something they can laugh about and then become best mates over.

Wow I love Shirley, how fishy fred could pick mizz whiney sob story over her gawd knows.

Roll on Grant

Dazzle
12-05-2016, 11:22
The carp story makes me chuckle, a relative did the same stealing coy. bragged about it ... it didnt end well.. in this case no coy could be proved as missing, Mick could cla9m he was there on the invite of the couple now they had been invited and as such the Police cant use most cctv in eveidence, I know all about that one. I suspect the swinging routine is a wind up.ruse de guerre. something they can laugh about and then become best mates over.

I think that'd be a good twist so I hope you're right. :)

lizann
12-05-2016, 20:10
if belinda stays around just chasing mick that is stupid writing

im going for peggy going out in her own way, suicide with help

lizann
12-05-2016, 20:10
if belinda stays around just chasing mick that is stupid writing

im going for peggy going out in her own way, suicide with help

tammyy2j
12-05-2016, 21:44
I liked the Mitchell family scenes but would Ben and Louise be so friendly and on good terms with Peggy, were they all in contact while she has been away?

The Peggy and Phil scenes were especially good

Peggy did say she was going out on her terms or something similar to that, I believe she dies next week

I could have done without the Carters not funny drama

Belinda works best as the flirty fun witty sarcastic Slater, keep her like that as now she is staying around, I don't want Mick to stray

Dazzle
13-05-2016, 01:57
if belinda stays around just chasing mick that is stupid writing

It sounds like she has low self esteem under the brassy exterior. Maybe she thinks she can't live without a man?



Belinda works best as the flirty fun witty sarcastic Slater, keep her like that as now she is staying around, I don't want Mick to stray

No one stays cheery once they've moved to Albert Square. You should knew that by now Tammy! :p

I don't think Mick's interested in her.


The Peggy and Phil scenes were especially good

They were - the old chemistry's still there. I think Barbara Windsor is a perfectly competent actor when she's not hamming it up, and of course Steve is always convincing.

lizann
13-05-2016, 21:44
peggy will ask phil to help her die

bitches of eastwick :p shirley's cake oh my so not to be eaten

all parts fitted along nicely tonight so well done too all, denise shown and talk of peggy's grandkids so could it be more obvious she is up the duffy

lizann
13-05-2016, 21:44
peggy will ask phil to help her die

bitches of eastwick :p shirley's cake oh my so not to be eaten

all parts fitted along nicely tonight so well done too all, denise shown and talk of peggy's grandkids so could it be more obvious she is up the duffy

flappinfanny
14-05-2016, 01:05
I am not usually a fan of Peggy and Barbara Windsor, perhaps because I was always such a fan of Wendy Richard and Pauline. However credit where credit is due, I did find the scenes with Peggy and Phil rather moving, especially going back to where they used to live.

As much a I love our capital city and I do, (it is my favourite city no question) the scenes did feel a little bit like a travel log. I half expected Judith Chalmers to pop up on that boat on the Thames.

Nice scenes with Shirley, Sharon and Kathy. The best part of the episode for me were the scenes with Peggy and Dot and the poignant look Peggy gave when passing Pat's house, as if to say "won't be long before I see you, you old cow."

parkerman
14-05-2016, 08:28
Quite frankly, I am heartily sick of this Peggy storyline. Eastenders are just indulging her in her own egotistical delusion that she is the greatest thing ever to happen to Eastenders. The national treasure who decided to grace our screens with her presence. Now she's decided to go, of course, she has to be treated like royalty and everything else has to stop for her and her own fantasy that she is a legend.

Yes, she played a big part in Eastenders (not very well in my opinion) but so did a lot of other people, the 30 year history of the show is not and never was all about her. It's almost as if Eastenders itself is dying. Well it won't and personally, I haven't missed her while she's been absent and won't now.

Splashy
14-05-2016, 09:52
Quite frankly, I am heartily sick of this Peggy storyline. Eastenders are just indulging her in her own egotistical delusion that she is the greatest thing ever to happen to Eastenders. The national treasure who decided to grace our screens with her presence. Now she's decided to go, of course, she has to be treated like royalty and everything else has to stop for her and her own fantasy that she is a legend.

Yes, she played a big part in Eastenders (not very well in my opinion) but so did a lot of other people, the 30 year history of the show is not and never was all about her. It's almost as if Eastenders itself is dying. Well it won't and personally, I haven't missed her while she's been absent and won't now.

I so agree with bells on......Windsor like I said before disgusted me advertising online gambling, just like Cilla Black did when she advertised the call a spiritual medium company on a premium rate number.. did they not quite grasp that they were selling their souls.

Anywho .. last night bored me ridgid.. Im depressed enough already without this ongoing pity party fribble.

I may be having a moany day

Splashy
14-05-2016, 09:52
Quite frankly, I am heartily sick of this Peggy storyline. Eastenders are just indulging her in her own egotistical delusion that she is the greatest thing ever to happen to Eastenders. The national treasure who decided to grace our screens with her presence. Now she's decided to go, of course, she has to be treated like royalty and everything else has to stop for her and her own fantasy that she is a legend.

Yes, she played a big part in Eastenders (not very well in my opinion) but so did a lot of other people, the 30 year history of the show is not and never was all about her. It's almost as if Eastenders itself is dying. Well it won't and personally, I haven't missed her while she's been absent and won't now.

I so agree with bells on......Windsor like I said before disgusted me advertising online gambling, just like Cilla Black did when she advertised the call a spiritual medium company on a premium rate number.. did they not quite grasp that they were selling their souls.

Anywho .. last night bored me ridgid.. Im depressed enough already without this ongoing pity party fribble.

I may be having a moany day

flappinfanny
14-05-2016, 13:25
Shirley is no Mary Berry. :)

lizann
14-05-2016, 16:10
ok i have a bug a boo, no way peggy would be nice to sharon who just divorced phil and kathy who faked her death for insurance money, they'd be slaps i know she is weak from her cancer but a few slaps please peg

Perdita
14-05-2016, 17:31
ok i have a bug a boo, no way peggy would be nice to sharon who just divorced phil and kathy who faked her death for insurance money, they'd be slaps i know she is weak from her cancer but a few slaps please peg

I can imagine that when you know you only have a very short time left on this planet, your attitude to other people or opinions changes ..

maidmarian
14-05-2016, 17:49
:wall:[QUOTE=Perdita;848439]I can imagine that when you know you only have a very short time left on this planet, your attitude to other people or opinions changes...

I agree. People who are dying think about those
who really matter to them. Sharon&Kathy may
have affected those who mattered to Peggy -
but they themselves werent important- so wouldn't
waste time on them.
I agree with Parkermans earlier post that the
Peggy Exit story has been overdone-so wouldn't
want it to be even more unrealistic!:wall:

Dazzle
14-05-2016, 22:20
I'm on team "I'm enjoying Peggy's final episodes", although I do agree it's over the top and that other, more iconic, characters haven't had such a monumental send off.

That's down to DTC more than anyone however. I think he called Peggy/Barbara the queen of Walford when Peggy's death was first announced. I know that both Wendy Richard and Pam St Clement were both killed off because they fell out with the executive producer(s) of the time. So they were never going to get such a sentimental send-off. Wendy's in particular was insulting!

I turned on iPlayer on Thursday night to watch that day's EE but it hadn't yet been uploaded. So, instead, I watched Back to Ours featuring Barbara Windsor and Pam St Clement. It was an entertaining and nostalgic watch, and I found it apparent from Babs' attitude that she truly loves EE, Peggy and her EE family. She didn't come across to me as egotistical about it at all - and this is from someone who's criticised her in the past about the damehood and gambling ads. I'm still no fan of Barbara Windsor, but I don't believe she's as self important as some of you do - at least not about her place in EE's history. She's proud to have been a part of it.

There have been some lovely scenes between Peggy and Phil, and Peggy and Dot (who knew she was saying goodbye for the last time :() and others. I'm looking forward to the Peggy/Phil/Grant scenes too.

You haters haven't got many more episodes to tolerate Peggy's send-off! :p

Dazzle
14-05-2016, 23:01
It's almost as if Eastenders itself is dying.

As I said in my last post, I believe this feeling has as much to do with DTC as anyone. Peggy's final storyline was his swansong and he'll have put everything into it. EE isn't dying, but maybe DTC's departure felt a bit like a bereavement to him? Coupled with Peggy's death, the whole EE team were likely in mourning planning and filming these episodes.

That's my take on the over-the-top sentimentality of these episodes anyway. :)

storyseeker1
14-05-2016, 23:47
Just started watching the weeks eps. This is just a thought, but can anybody refresh my memory. I vaguely recall a scene from EE years ago, with Ronnie's daughter Danielle and her adopted father. I recall him mentioning her brother wanted her at his wedding or something. Did Danielle have an adopted brother? If so, then I'm wandering if this Andy might be him? He mentioned having a sister, and it would explain his obsession with Ronnie (revenge).

flappinfanny
15-05-2016, 00:57
Just started watching the weeks eps. This is just a thought, but can anybody refresh my memory. I vaguely recall a scene from EE years ago, with Ronnie's daughter Danielle and her adopted father. I recall him mentioning her brother wanted her at his wedding or something. Did Danielle have an adopted brother? If so, then I'm wandering if this Andy might be him? He mentioned having a sister, and it would explain his obsession with Ronnie (revenge).

I agree I think Andy is Danielle's adopted brother.

Rear window
15-05-2016, 09:40
I agree I think Andy is Danielle's adopted brother.

Wiki says:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_EastEnders_characters_(2009)#Andy_Jones
Andy Jones, played by Aneirin Hughes, is the adoptive father of established character Danielle Jones (Lauren Crace).


Andy asks Danielle to return to their hometown Telford as her brother, Gareth, is getting married.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Jones_(EastEnders)

storyseeker1
15-05-2016, 12:48
Wiki says:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_EastEnders_characters_(2009)#Andy_Jones
Andy Jones, played by Aneirin Hughes, is the adoptive father of established character Danielle Jones (Lauren Crace).


Andy asks Danielle to return to their hometown Telford as her brother, Gareth, is getting married.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Jones_(EastEnders)

That would seem to indicate that this is indeed Danielle's brother then. If he's planning something sinister, he most likely wouldn't use his own name, and used his fathers' first one instead. Of course, this is still all speculation. He might just be your typical creepy soap stalker.

flappinfanny
15-05-2016, 18:07
Wiki says:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_EastEnders_characters_(2009)#Andy_Jones
Andy Jones, played by Aneirin Hughes, is the adoptive father of established character Danielle Jones (Lauren Crace).


Andy asks Danielle to return to their hometown Telford as her brother, Gareth, is getting married.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Jones_(EastEnders)

I wonder then if Andy is in fact Gareth? Interesting stuff.

tammyy2j
16-05-2016, 00:38
Quite frankly, I am heartily sick of this Peggy storyline. Eastenders are just indulging her in her own egotistical delusion that she is the greatest thing ever to happen to Eastenders. The national treasure who decided to grace our screens with her presence. Now she's decided to go, of course, she has to be treated like royalty and everything else has to stop for her and her own fantasy that she is a legend.

Yes, she played a big part in Eastenders (not very well in my opinion) but so did a lot of other people, the 30 year history of the show is not and never was all about her. It's almost as if Eastenders itself is dying. Well it won't and personally, I haven't missed her while she's been absent and won't now.

I think Barbara as a big Carry On acting star joining the soap was a very deal at the time when she started playing Peggy

The Mitchell family are such an synonymous family with the show and being the matriarch and also pub landlady for a long time she is going to get a big send off

I am enjoying her "last orders" send off as so far some great emotional scenes very well acted

lizann
16-05-2016, 01:58
im still hoping for a peg slap on claudette, is there a showdown between them before she dies which is next tuesday that peg dies

Rear window
16-05-2016, 09:25
I think Barbara as a big Carry On acting star joining the soap was a very deal at the time when she started playing Peggy


She did do a line that was so 'carry on' I nearly turned the telly off.

lizann
16-05-2016, 21:44
jay the forgotten mitchell no love for him for peg

Dazzle
16-05-2016, 23:30
I thought Monday's episode was excellent. It was just as much about Phil as Peggy, so I hope viewers who dislike the latter still enjoyed it. The mother and her two boys are reunited at last and I can't wait for their scenes tomorrow.

I am wondering whether Phil and Peggy are really discussing her suicide? Their words have been written very carefully to make it sound like that without being specific. Still,
she apparently dies tomorrow so that doesn't leave much time for anything else to kill her. Perhaps something could happen to her brain (such as a stroke or an aneurysm) since it's apparent that organ's seriously affected by the cancer? :hmm:
I thoroughly enjoyed Ian and Phil's, and Peggy and Stacey's chats.

flappinfanny
17-05-2016, 00:02
A nice mention of Pauline in tonight's episode, good scenes with Phil and Peggy. I think it may be too late to try and make Ian likeable again, it does not wash with me sorry. Ian and Jane are ruined characters. Liked the look Peggy gave Claudette. It was as though Peggy had trod in something smelly.

Grants entrance was a bit of an anti climax and that Duff Duff at the end seemed to go on for ever with the camera zooming onto Ross Kemps face.

parkerman
17-05-2016, 00:29
I think it may be too late to try and make Ian likeable again, it does not wash with me sorry. Ian and Jane are ruined characters.

I couldn't agree more. I just think they are both despicable and cringe every time they come on.

lizann
17-05-2016, 00:48
was claudette not in hiding from vincent?

Dazzle
17-05-2016, 01:45
I think it may be too late to try and make Ian likeable again, it does not wash with me sorry. Ian and Jane are ruined characters.


I couldn't agree more. I just think they are both despicable and cringe every time they come on.

I disagree. :p

Ian and Jane have done a terrible thing and must pay for it (I suspect Jane will go (one way or another) leaving Ian bereft - plus he's likely to lose Bobby for the foreseeable future), but at least they did what they did out of love. Compare that to a character like Phil who hurts everyone around him because he takes pleasure in it. He's also just as guilty of covering for Bobby (as are others), so I don't think Ian and Jane come off too badly in comparison.

I believe Ian can be redeemed when he's lost everything as a consequence of the cover up (which of course includes allowing Max to go to prison). Today's scene between Ian and Phil proved to me that even the most unlikable characters can be compelling. It really depends if the acting and writing is good enough to elicit the audience's sympathy. I find Phil the most detestable character currently in EE but Steve McFadden is able to make me sympathise with Phil's current predicament almost against my wishes.

I certainly don't condone Ian and Jane's crimes and wouldn't associate with them in real life (and wouldn't hesitate in turning them in), but as soap characters I can still enjoy watching them. I must admit that wasn't the case earlier in the year when they conspired to send Max down but, unlike in real life, we can be fairly certain all this will come out sooner or later and there'll be serious repercussions for them.

I'm always aware of the ticking time bomb when I watch them which adds tension to their scenes. I do think the whole storyline could (and should) have been written much better and in a way that we could sympathise more with their desperate predicament. I just hope the denouement to this tale is handled more skilfully.

tammyy2j
17-05-2016, 13:31
I want Jane and Ian punished especially Jane

Dazzle
17-05-2016, 13:42
I want Jane and Ian punished especially Jane

They will be, one way or another. Jane might well end up in prison if she confesses, or even dead at Bobby's hands. I doubt Adam Woodyatt's leaving EE though.

storyseeker1
17-05-2016, 14:05
I have mixed feelings about Ian and Jane. Ian's an idiot, but then that's nothing new. Jane; I understand she did what she did because she has a mother's love for Bobby, and he's the closest thing she has to a son because she can't have kids. However, there's no excuse for what they've done to Max, and they've clearly ignored all the signs that Bobby is mentally damaged. This and next week's story was inevitable. I mean, you can't just send someone off to a posh school and automatically assume that things will get better. Bobby clearly needs way more help than a mere talking to at a strict school can do.

On the plus side, it looks like Ian won't have to sell to Cosmart anymore, since I doubt the school will want Bobby back after they learn about his attack on Jane.

Dazzle
17-05-2016, 14:12
On the plus side, it looks like Ian won't have to sell to Cosmart anymore, since I doubt the school will want Bobby back after they learn about his attack on Jane.

Did you miss last night's episode where the question of Costmart and Bobby's continuing attendance at boarding school was resolved?

maidmarian
17-05-2016, 14:43
I have mixed feelings about Ian and Jane. Ian's an idiot, but then that's nothing new. Jane; I understand she did what she did because she has a mother's love for Bobby, and he's the closest thing she has to a son because she can't have kids. However, there's no excuse for what they've done to Max, and they've clearly ignored all the signs that Bobby is mentally damaged. This and next week's story was inevitable. I mean, you can't just send someone off to a posh school and automatically assume that things will get better. Bobby clearly needs way more help than a mere talking to at a strict school can do.

On the plus side, it looks like Ian won't have to sell to Cosmart anymore, since I doubt the school will want Bobby back after they learn about his attack on Jane.
y
I agree with most of what you sayStoryseeker1
but though it is usually very sad when
a woman cant have.childrenof her own-
as they would be good mothers - there
is a small minority like Jane who are more
of a "smother".
Too much about what they want rather than
giving love and.guidance which enables the
child to became an independent adult.:love:

storyseeker1
17-05-2016, 15:36
y
I agree with most of what you sayStoryseeker1
but though it is usually very sad when
a woman cant have.childrenof her own-
as they would be good mothers - there
is a small minority like Jane who are more
of a "smother".
Too much about what they want rather than
giving love and.guidance which enables the
child to became an independent adult.:love:

That I can't deny, though we're still not sure yet if Bobby's circumstances really are the result of too much spoiling and smothering, or if they're because of something else. (I still suspect Bobby might have IED.)

storyseeker1
17-05-2016, 15:37
Did you miss last night's episode where the question of Costmart and Bobby's continuing attendance at boarding school was resolved?

Haven't watched any ep yet this week, as I've been too tired and wait till the end of the week to watch them.

maidmarian
17-05-2016, 16:53
That I can't deny, though we're still not sure yet if Bobby's circumstances really are the result of too much spoiling and smothering, or if they're because of something else. (I still suspect Bobby might have IED.)

Im sure it is a mixture of factors.
He does seem to have a personality
disorder(I not sure which)but having
a "mother" like Jane will probably
have re-inforced it!!
We will have to wait and see what story
they come up with!:hmm:

Not seen last nights episode yet either

maidmarian
17-05-2016, 16:57
Did you miss last night's episode where the question of Costmart and Bobby's continuing attendance at boarding school was resolved?

Ive not seen it either. When I am able
to will.be interested to see how the issues
are resolved!

lizann
17-05-2016, 20:11
nice having pat back, you bitch you cow :p

Dazzle
17-05-2016, 23:09
Pat's appearance was the highlight of Peggy's final episode for me, and I thought Ross Kemp was quite strong - especially considering he doesn't act much any more. I'm glad it was nicely downplayed for the most part and there were no histrionics.

It was "you bitch, you cow" that started my tears off - pure nostalgia for me. I thought the stopping of the clock at the end was a moving touch.

I did hope Peggy wouldn't commit suicide though, and I thought Sharon and Grant's chemistry felt manufactured and slightly cringeworthy. And what was the point of the toilet storyline in that episode?

I enjoyed it overall even though it was too sentimental for my taste in parts.

Splashy
18-05-2016, 08:22
Tordrid dribble .....bog awful sentimental pish :angel:

It was my birthday and I was slightly falling over drunk and cant even remember more than the crapers being carried about :o

Oh and Granty boy wanting his money back. which makes me presume hes here for a bit.

Dazzle
18-05-2016, 09:41
Tordrid dribble .....bog awful sentimental pish :angel:

It was my birthday and I was slightly falling over drunk and cant even remember more than the crapers being carried about :o

Oh and Granty boy wanting his money back. which makes me presume hes here for a bit.

Happy birthday for yesterday! :cheer:

(It sounds like you enjoyed yourself :D)

tammyy2j
18-05-2016, 12:08
I wasn't particularly moved by Peggy's suicide, felt Pat's death was sadder and pulled at the strings more for me

I did enjoy the vision of Pat again, good on Pam for returning considering Barbara didn't for her exit

Grant returned to see his dying mother for a few hours with no Sam, baby Ricky or Courtney :angry:

Sharon and Grant still have chemistry

Glen1
18-05-2016, 14:45
I thought the best part of the episode was after the end credits rolled :D, and when the Bobby and Jane Beale trailer was shown ,worth waiting for. Having said that still don't think this will conclude the storyline. D.T.C. said upon the announcement of his retirement he intended to leave certain storylines open for the new exec producer to deal with. Max not due back supposedly until Sept ?:hmm:

Siobhan
18-05-2016, 14:56
I did enjoy the vision of Pat again, good on Pam for returning considering Barbara didn't for her exit



didn't see it but saw the script in the paper and it seems very moving

Siobhan
18-05-2016, 15:03
It was "you bitch, you cow" that started my tears off - pure nostalgia for me. I thought the stopping of the clock at the end was a moving touch.



Actually, when I got to this bit I remembered the time they got drunk in the Ice cream van.. One of the best scenes with Peggy and Pat

Rear window
19-05-2016, 10:37
he intended to leave certain storylines open for the new exec producer to deal with.

Always a good plan when you're completely at a sticky bit. Of course he might have left half a dozen story line options for the next one to look through. Or not.

How can the truth come out without several other people going to prison? Oh it's EE land community service for 3 hours and don't do it again.

Rear window
19-05-2016, 10:37
he intended to leave certain storylines open for the new exec producer to deal with.

Always a good plan when you're completely at a sticky bit. Of course he might have left half a dozen story line options for the next one to look through. Or not.

How can the truth come out without several other people going to prison? Oh it's EE land community service for 3 hours and don't do it again.

Dazzle
19-05-2016, 11:29
How can the truth come out without several other people going to prison?

Jane confesses and swears nobody else knew? That might not be realistic in real life but in soap land...

Siobhan
19-05-2016, 13:42
New episode discussion is here: http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?138374-Eastender-current-episode-discussion-IV