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19-02-2016, 13:55
Its just that if you niff off an insane lady in EE watch out for industrial machines, it was meant to be Vincent last time in the crusher but ended up being FLatboy.
Or domestic appliances (re: little mo's fella)
is gavin not wanted by police and is he invisible outside
Rear window
19-02-2016, 20:38
shakes head at Sharon...
storyseeker1
19-02-2016, 21:49
Good to see that Sharon finally came through and told Gavin to get lost. I just wonder how long it's gonna last. She's not exactly the strongest of women when it comes to saying no. She kept making excuses about Phil, and she ended up going away with Gavin despite what he did to Phil and all the warnings she got from everyone about him. She's just one big doormat unfortunately, and I doubt Phil divorcing her is gonna help. I'm willing to bet that soon all the heartache from Phil and from Denny about how much he misses his granddad is gonna make her go running back to Gavin.
Sharon didn't used to be a doormat. I just don't understand why she's written as bouncing from one abusive man to another nowadays. :searchme:
I can't believe Honey would be happy to have a drunken and reckless Phil around her kids (Ronnie either for that matter).
Lacey and James were perfect as usual. I hope that Stacey and Martin stay together long term.
tammyy2j
21-02-2016, 00:04
Did Sharon ask Vincent for 250,000 for her share of The Albert, is it really work 500,000 in total
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21-02-2016, 08:28
Did Sharon ask Vincent for 250,000 for her share of The Albert, is it really work 500,000 in total
If they own the building then it's worth more. You could turn it into a few hundred tiny bedsits and charge a fortune for them.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=OUTCODE%5E6110&insId=1&sortType=1&index=10
(E20: The Olympic Park is to get the same postcode as the BBC soap opera EastEnders, the Royal Mail has revealed. The site, in Stratford, will receive an E20 code - which is currently used by the fictional district of Walford in the TV series)
Rear window
21-02-2016, 08:29
Did Sharon ask Vincent for 250,000 for her share of The Albert, is it really work 500,000 in total
If they own the building then it's worth more. You could turn it into a few hundred tiny bedsits and charge a fortune for them.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=OUTCODE%5E6110&insId=1&sortType=1&index=10
(E20: The Olympic Park is to get the same postcode as the BBC soap opera EastEnders, the Royal Mail has revealed. The site, in Stratford, will receive an E20 code - which is currently used by the fictional district of Walford in the TV series)
storyseeker1
21-02-2016, 09:00
If they own the building then it's worth more. You could turn it into a few hundred tiny bedsits and charge a fortune for them.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=OUTCODE%5E6110&insId=1&sortType=1&index=10
(E20: The Olympic Park is to get the same postcode as the BBC soap opera EastEnders, the Royal Mail has revealed. The site, in Stratford, will receive an E20 code - which is currently used by the fictional district of Walford in the TV series)
Wow! What I wouldn't give for that. It would make a nice little nestegg.
kush and sharon well now there is an unusual pairing that could work
Martin acting like a blithering ignorant thug again, surprised he didnt drag Stacy out by her hair caveman style.He really reminds me of an ex I kicked because she simply couldnt comprehend mental illness and kept twisting it to be all about her.
Continuity of care, Stacy had a good repor with the carers she had, now shes in a place with screaming babies..could set her back having now to care for Art and can you express milk while on medication?
Car crash drama, while I understand its not real life, I know Im not the only one on here to seethe at the plots inaccuracies and woeful inconsistencies. The weak line by that carer about "we dont have enough money to look after these women" was weird and kinda political coming from the BBC.
Anywho.. Martin who is already unstable will now get more verbaly and physicaly violent.
Sonia really is a vile nasty @@@@
Martin acting like a blithering ignorant thug again, surprised he didnt drag Stacy out by her hair caveman style.He really reminds me of an ex I kicked because she simply couldnt comprehend mental illness and kept twisting it to be all about her.
Continuity of care, Stacy had a good repor with the carers she had, now shes in a place with screaming babies..could set her back having now to care for Art and can you express milk while on medication?
Car crash drama, while I understand its not real life, I know Im not the only one on here to seethe at the plots inaccuracies and woeful inconsistencies. The weak line by that carer about "we dont have enough money to look after these women" was weird and kinda political coming from the BBC.
Anywho.. Martin who is already unstable will now get more verbaly and physicaly violent.
Sonia really is a vile nasty @@@@
Well my take on the episode was quite different to yours, Splashy. I admit I was very frustrated at Martin's reaction to Stacey's suicidal feelings, but I guess at least him burying his head in the sand and not telling the professionals was in character. He panicked, which is understandable really.
Apart from that I think he's coped well since Stacey went into hospital. He really has gone above and beyond to keep the family together (looking after a young baby on your own is extremely hard work, especially when you're already tired and stressed) and he could easily have palmed off Lily to Jean. I think he's being portrayed as a decent man who has no understanding of mental illness (as so many don't, unfortunately), but he's doing his very best to support Stacey. What's going to happen now he knows the cruel truth about Arthur is anyone's guess... :(
I liked the psychiatrist's line about not having enough money to treat the women, especially since it's only a few days since I read the headline that there's yet again less money being spent on mental health care. It's unusual for a soap to get political these days, but a perfectly natural thing for a psychiatrist to say in the circumstances.
I guess Martin behaviour's hit a raw nerve with you because of your own unpleasant experiences, Splashy - which is more than understandable!
I'm liking the idea of Kush and Sharon! I can't see it happening though unfortunately.
Dazzle your comments are on the money,personaly I just cant abide barrow boy throw backs like Martin. "its my job to look after you" well I wouldnt employ the lug head :D
Ah but anyway lets hope the next epps are about crushing another cast member hopefully Sonia and stop this to close to home mashup :moonie::D
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23-02-2016, 12:08
Martin acting like a blithering ignorant thug again, surprised he didnt drag Stacy out by her hair caveman style.He really reminds me of an ex I kicked because she simply couldnt comprehend mental illness and kept twisting it to be all about her.
Continuity of care, Stacy had a good repor with the carers she had, now shes in a place with screaming babies..could set her back having now to care for Art and can you express milk while on medication?
Oh I thought Martin might get sectioned (or at least collapse cos of the bang on the head)
Music and screaming babies, my idea of hell.
Rear window
23-02-2016, 12:08
Martin acting like a blithering ignorant thug again, surprised he didnt drag Stacy out by her hair caveman style.He really reminds me of an ex I kicked because she simply couldnt comprehend mental illness and kept twisting it to be all about her.
Continuity of care, Stacy had a good repor with the carers she had, now shes in a place with screaming babies..could set her back having now to care for Art and can you express milk while on medication?
Oh I thought Martin might get sectioned (or at least collapse cos of the bang on the head)
Music and screaming babies, my idea of hell.
tammyy2j
23-02-2016, 13:17
I feel really sorry for Martin :(
bye bye martin
has stacey forgot lily, martin basically ends their relationship and she never asks about lily
martin should have ran over kush
bye bye martin
has stacey forgot lily, martin basically ends their relationship and she never asks about lily
martin should have ran over kush
parkerman
23-02-2016, 22:40
I know it was done as a device to let the viewing audience know what was going on but it did strike me as rather strange that you would take your passport out of your pocket and put it on the car seat next to you.
Anyway, it's all now getting very labyrinthine this back story about relationships before our time in Eastenders. Gavin, Phil and Claudette all getting roped in. Some very dark and dodgy doings in ye olde days obviously......
Martin being the self obsessed drama queen to the end. His moving Stacy to a baby unit has caused suffering, especially now hes bailed on her. At minimum for a mentally unwell lady he should of maned up and sent Kush in.
Threatening Kushs life with his car summed up the thug, Arthur was a meek lovely man, ok you couldnt trust him with ya crimbo dosh but how did he sire this tool.
Anyway, no julia theme so im guessing the numpty will be back. :ninja:
flappinfanny
23-02-2016, 23:14
bye bye martin
has stacey forgot lily, martin basically ends their relationship and she never asks about lily
martin should have ran over kush
Bex has got more common sense in her finger nail than Sonia has in her whole body.
I agree I wish Martin had mowed down Kush. It is such a shame they had to have Kush as the dad storyline. It has not really added anything to the storyline imo. James Bye has really come into his own.
I thought the Hubbards spoilt the episode tonight and I am so fed up of Syrup head.
B
I am 0so fed up of Syrup head. :clap::D:D:D:D:D:D:
storyseeker1
24-02-2016, 02:36
I'm sorry but I just have no respect for Martin. I get he's gone through a traumatic ordeal, and finding out the baby he thought was his isn't, is a kick to the head...but leaving Bex, his own daughter, and Lily, a sweet little girl who's coping with her mother being crazy and gone, after they tell him they love him etc...I just find that despicable. And he took Son's car an' all! She needs that for work, you moron!
Furthermore, what I'd like to know is where did he get the money to go abroad and everything. He win the lottery when we weren't looking?
Does Gavin have connections with everyone on the square? What could he have on Claudette? Theories? My guess is, it's something to do with her supposedly late husband.
great post/great read ^^
Claudette, is lieing about her hubbys death and thingy knows it...plus Im guessing shes offt bods like Ronnie has done pre now.
great post/great read ^
Claudette, is lieing about her hubbys death and thingy knows it...plus Im guessing shes offt bods like Ronnie has done pre now.
Threatening Kushs life with his car summed up the thug
Martin didn't actually threaten Kush's life though. He thought about it for a split second (and who hasn't thought about committing murder once in a while? :D).
He was extremely restrained considering the seismic shift his world's just undergone. He's in shock and not thinking straight.
I'm sorry but I just have no respect for Martin. I get he's gone through a traumatic ordeal, and finding out the baby he thought was his isn't, is a kick to the head...but leaving Bex, his own daughter, and Lily, a sweet little girl who's coping with her mother being crazy and gone, after they tell him they love him etc...I just find that despicable
Bit in bold: that's a huge understatement!
This being a soap, when actors have breaks (which I'm assuming this is), their characters undergo something traumatic and then flee halfway around the world with a rucksack. The kind of loving man Martin's been portrayed as recently wouldn't have deserted his kids without a word, so I'm choosing to put it down to a lazy soap cliche rather than blame the character.
Bex has got more common sense in her finger nail than Sonia has in her whole body.
Bex is turning into a really good character and I hope we're going to see more of her in future. I think Sonia's been pretty decent recently too though.
Claudette, is lieing about her hubbys death and thingy knows it...plus Im guessing shes offt bods like Ronnie has done pre now.
Claudette's already offed Fatboy since moving to the square. In my opinion she's wholly responsible for his death and, even worse, has absolutely no remorse about it (unlike Ronnie, until Vincent lied to her about it).
(and who hasn't thought about committing murder once in a while? :D).
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*splashy slowly shuffles backwards to the nearest escape door hoping not to be murdered* :moonie:
Rear window
24-02-2016, 09:47
I am very excited about the prospect of Gavin getting his comeuppance at the hands of Gangster Mrs Hubbarb. That'd be fantastic.
Her stabbing the bouncy castle was erm amusing but a tiny bit sinister.
I wondered if the passport was Martins. Did he look in the box from Kyle(? I really am shocking at names) - not that it says in it if you transition. But maybe it's the girl he used to be passport.
I was hoping Martin was going back to see Stacey and that he will say he loves her and will stay with her even if the baby isn't his.
Why would he go to the airport in a car? And not his car either. Maybe he's still not thinking straight.
I did think Bex was looking really out of sorts - the weight of the world on her shoulders. Tina has really been nice though recently.
I want Stacey to know the truth about Kyle as it'll help unknot a few things maybe in her head. The confusion over who he is probably has not been good for her.
tammyy2j
24-02-2016, 12:28
I know it was done as a device to let the viewing audience know what was going on but it did strike me as rather strange that you would take your passport out of your pocket and put it on the car seat next to you.
Anyway, it's all now getting very labyrinthine this back story about relationships before our time in Eastenders. Gavin, Phil and Claudette all getting roped in. Some very dark and dodgy doings in ye olde days obviously......
I was thinking could Martin maybe attempt suicide, I thought maybe the passport was of Kyle when he was a woman and not Martin's passport
I still feel sorry for Martin, he is crushed, he loves little baby Arthur as his son plus named after his father
Martin and Sonia didn't get Bex back until she was older whereas he has bonded with Arthur since his birth
I know Stacey is ill but her writing the letter to Martin was cruel I think, she loves him and their family unit and now destroys it :angry:
I do hope there is a twist and Martin is really Arthur's dad
I think this Martin and Stacey make a believable couple with chemistry, thanks to Lacy and James so I hope he is back soon
I know Stacey is ill but her writing the letter to Martin was cruel I think, she loves him and their family unit and now destroys it :angry:
It was indeed cruel, but remember Stacey was at an extremely low ebb when she wrote it and changed her mind when she felt a bit better.
tammyy2j
25-02-2016, 21:48
It was nice to see Dot go see Stacey and ask about Jean, it is strange she is not visiting Stacey and Lily
Abi and Lee, well I did not expect that but a Carter Branning baby if he did the job could be good for the show's future and Lee and Whitney really don't make a believable couple for me
Abi is so desperate to be loved and not alone that I feel sorry for her
Martin is in America to see Michelle, when he returns could perhaps Vickie or Mark come back with him
I like Pam and Les together, again Pam looked lovely
Rear window
25-02-2016, 21:51
Ben is so angry with himself he needs help.
Ah well lets see if soap odds work and Abi's one night drunken thing gets her up the duff duff duff.
lovely scenes with Dot.
Is Stacey going to have to tell the world why Mrtin has left?
Rear window
25-02-2016, 21:51
Ben is so angry with himself he needs help.
Ah well lets see if soap odds work and Abi's one night drunken thing gets her up the duff duff duff.
lovely scenes with Dot.
Is Stacey going to have to tell the world why Mrtin has left?
storyseeker1
25-02-2016, 22:11
Urgh! I can't believe how stupid Abi is! Of all the people, why Lee? Surely even in a drunken state she would know that out of all the men in the city, Babe would not want her to sleep with her own nephew, let alone have a baby with him! It'll be interesting to see her reaction when she finds out, though.
Rear window
25-02-2016, 22:27
Urgh! I can't believe how stupid Abi is! Of all the people, why Lee? Surely even in a drunken state she would know that out of all the men in the city, Babe would not want her to sleep with her own nephew, let alone have a baby with him! It'll be interesting to see her reaction when she finds out, though.
It took a while for it to sink in, but yes, nasty babe is being hoist by her own petard.
Abi could be passing an STD on to Lee for all she knows. :wall:
The saving grace of the Ben/Abi story for me, and what keeps both characters just on the right side of sympathetic, is that they genuinely love each other. Usually in similar soap stories, at least one of the people involved is cruelly and cynically using the other.
I thought it was refreshing that they went to the clinic together and could talk about his one night stands. However, more lies keep piling up...
Ben is so angry with himself he needs help.
Yes it's quite sad.
Is Stacey going to have to tell the world why Mrtin has left?
I'm surprised she hasn't so far. Maybe she's hoping they can go back to playing happy families when Martin comes back?
flappinfanny
26-02-2016, 00:07
I thought the double bill tonight was pretty Mediocre. The best bit for me was Kim and Lee in the Albert, which was a really funny scene. Also the scenes with Les and Pam were lovely.
parkerman
26-02-2016, 13:12
I'm not absolutely certain about this, but I believe the USA are not keen on allowing anyone in who has a criminal record, especially a custodial record. Does anyone with more legal knowledge know about this?
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26-02-2016, 13:15
Visa Waiver Programme (VWP)
The VWP allows most British Citizen passport holders to visit the US for up to 90 days. The types of journey allowed under the VWP include tourism, certain types of business visit and transit to another country.
You won’t qualify for entry to the USA under the VWP, and will need to apply for a visa from the nearest US Embassy or Consulate, if:
you have a British passport that describes your nationality as something other than ‘British Citizen’
your passport has been extended by 12 months under exceptional measures put in place in mid 2014;
your passport doesn’t include certain security features
you’ve been arrested for certain crimes, even if it didn’t result in a criminal conviction
::
We do not recommend that travelers who have been arrested, even if the arrest did not result in a criminal conviction, have a criminal record, certain serious communicable illness, have been refused admission into, or have been deported from, the United States, or have previously overstayed under the terms of the Visa Waiver Program, attempt to travel visa free under the Visa Waiver Program. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply to US visa law and spent convictions,regardless of when they occurred will have a bearing on a traveler’s eligibility for admission into the United States.
xx_Dan_xx
26-02-2016, 13:40
Even drunk I'd think I'd be aware of the fact Abi is pregnant while holding what looked like vodka. Or the next day I'd remember.
parkerman
26-02-2016, 15:09
Thanks RW. So there is no way Martin would be allowed into the USA.....
babe dislikes whitney but will she welcome abi and baby to the family
flappinfanny
27-02-2016, 23:12
Can't say I am looking forward to the Strawberry blonde at 70 returning for her death bed scenes. I may have to Sky+ the show and fast forward those scenes.
why didn't whitney tell mick and linda that babe forced her to tell lee
Rear window
28-02-2016, 20:27
why didn't whitney tell mick and linda that babe forced her to tell lee
Yeah I wondered that at the time - "She made me" always sounds a bit childish though..
storyseeker1
28-02-2016, 21:06
Yeah I wondered that at the time - "She made me" always sounds a bit childish though..
Probably why she didn't tell them then. Too proud.
storyseeker1
29-02-2016, 22:41
Well, at least Abi's not pregnant, but there may be a chance that she's passed what Ben has onto Lee, depending on the last time she and Ben had sex etc. Thankfully, Chlamydia isn't that serious, not like HIV/AIDS, but it can lead to a lot of trouble if left untreated. I guess we'll find out later if Ben's condition is advanced or not. Apparently, if caught early then it can be treated with a short range of antibiotics, but too long and it can lead to things like infections of various parts of the body, and infertility. It'll be ironic if Ben ends up becoming infertile after everything with Abi etc.
I bet the writers are gonna work that idea in! Something like; Ben's gonna be scared stiff that he's gonna end up infertile, and he'll tell Abi how glad he is she's pregnant with his baby and everything, prodding her to carry on with Babe's plan. That does sound like EE's style.
If Lee ends up catching it from Abi, it would make a good storyline. Also, maybe it would teach Babe not to get involved and to stop meddling in other people's relationships, lying and such!
I'm disappointed Abi didn't tell Babe that she slept with Lee. Disappointed, but not surprised, as it sounds like the sort of thing she'd do. Plus, how do you tell a woman you've slept with her nephew, and "oh by the way, there's a chance I may have given him STD". I just hope Abi wakes up and warns Lee about it, so that he can get tested! I can't believe how stupid she was, sleeping with someone when she knows there's a chance she might have STD! And to do it to Lee, someone she knows an' all! I have no respect for that girl!
I think it's highly likely Abi will have given Lee chlamydia, and that he's now going to pass it on to Whitney before Abi can warn him. I'd be surprised if the writers can resist the drama of such a messy situation.
Nancy and Whitney's talk about the latter's abusive past was moving. When Whitney said "but he wasn't the worst", it sent chills up my spine.
Was Nancy correct that Whitney no longer loves Lee now he doesn't make her feel safe? I suspect she was, although the proposal will paper over the cracks for the time being.
There's no way Abi would willingly tell Babe her one night stand was Lee. She knows Lee's aunt is ruthless and unpredictable, so I bet she's scared stiff of her. :eek:
I like Honey and Ronnie's relationship and how it brings out a softer, more fun side in the latter.
bianca and her kids not family to whitney no more
jack and honey will happen ruining her friendship with ronnie
Nancy is so unemphatic and judgmental, its her not Witt Lee needs to cut from his life..been there.
Bad news from the clinic ..full respect for Ben getting tested , in men that std can cause no symptoms rather than others that make you scream when you pee but for ladies it is serious. Abi will need to be tested and told to tell any sexual partner. Although is a good Dr Leg style educational story I fear Witt will be the one that suffers long term with infertility.
Lee..the huge clue was drinking, most meds ive taken dont mix well with alcohol, vomiting palpitations etc Plus now they take a good while to work and if its seroxat painfull to come off (it was easier to stop smoking)
Babe..the baby seller is unaware of the basics like blood types and DNA which fool this kina evilness, but like always she will be forgiven ..yawn
Does mrs billy know how close she is standing to a car crusher. :ninja:
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01-03-2016, 09:11
Nancy and Whitney's talk about the latter's abusive past was moving. When Whitney said "but he wasn't the worst", it sent chills up my spine.
I thought Whitney was excellent.
The proposal was a bit crazy maybe though.
tammyy2j
01-03-2016, 14:50
I thought Whitney's past of abuse was common knowledge on the Square and with all the Carters
I liked her talk with Nancy but I cant help feel she was looking for sympathy from Nancy to get back in with Carters to get more at Mick
I don't think Whitney loves Lee and she should be honest completely with him even in his sick depressed state
flappinfanny
01-03-2016, 16:21
I would prefer Whitney to leave the square now and go to Milton Keynes to see puffer jacket.
I shouldn't but I find it mildly amusing that many of the square will end up at the Clap clinic and Whitney has it again. :D
I liked her talk with Nancy but I cant help feel she was looking for sympathy from Nancy to get back in with Carters to get more at Mick
I don't think Whitney loves Lee and she should be honest completely with him even in his sick depressed state
I didn't get that at all. I thought Whitney was just being honest about the reasons for her crush on Mick. They're very good reasons after all. Soaps love to give unsubtle hints when characters are being insincere (sidelong glances, secret smirks etc) and I saw none of that in this instance.
I think it's been made clear she's desperate to keep Lee (whether it's love or something else), and not just for Mick's sake. I don't think she'd have been so devasted when Lee dumped her otherwise. She can chase Mick whether she lives in the Vic or not if that's her main aim.
I don't even know if she has feelings for Mick any more. I haven't seen any suggestions of them for a while now, although I wouldn't be surprised if they re-emerge.
Some pretty good acting by Perry Fenwick tonight.
linda will ask to adopt whitney soon enough in clapenders :p
Clap clinic..Babe is so vile but right, will Abi tell Lee , thus Witt? I doubt it seeing as she was willing to drown Lauren..shes ruthless to the core.
So Nancy is only out to get Witt because Lee nicked her job..nice
nice to see Jack back, he was aces as Phil in the Bill.
Clap clinic..Babe is so vile but right, will Abi tell Lee , thus Witt? I doubt it seeing as she was willing to drown Lauren..shes ruthless to the core.
So Nancy is only out to get Witt because Lee nicked her job..nice
nice to see Jack back, he was aces as Phil in the Bill.
storyseeker1
02-03-2016, 01:44
I'm surprised really that Babe would be the one to mention Abi's one night stand. I would've thought she'd just scoff and think nothing of it. I'm betting Abi won't say anything; just like her. I wish they'd hurry up and get her found out. With any luck, Babe will find out about her and Lee, and enraged that she might have got her nephew sick she will turn on her and reveal all. (Bit of a longshot, but here's hoping!)
what is going on with Nancy she is looking unwell and pale.... i know re the epilepsy and the incident that happened a few weeks ago but its like im waiting for her to have another one any minute... love Maddie Hill who plays her and she does it so right..... Nancy needs some happiness. lets hope she get is soon....
parkerman
02-03-2016, 09:38
In Honey's first incarnation on Eastenders, her speech was littered with Malapropisms. Since she's been back, not one. Puzzling.
Rear window
02-03-2016, 09:46
In Honey's first incarnation on Eastenders, her speech was littered with Malapropisms. Since she's been back, not one. Puzzling.
The words have got mixed up and have come out of Danny Dyer's mouth instead. I'm sure he came out with some non-rhyming nonsense the other day.
parkerman
02-03-2016, 10:29
The words have got mixed up and have come out of Danny Dyer's mouth instead. I'm sure he came out with some non-rhyming nonsense the other day.
That's cos 'e's a diamond geezer.
tammyy2j
02-03-2016, 16:41
I didn't get that at all. I thought Whitney was just being honest about the reasons for her crush on Mick. They're very good reasons after all. Soaps love to give unsubtle hints when characters are being insincere (sidelong glances, secret smirks etc) and I saw none of that in this instance.
I think it's been made clear she's desperate to keep Lee (whether it's love or something else), and not just for Mick's sake. I don't think she'd have been so devasted when Lee dumped her otherwise. She can chase Mick whether she lives in the Vic or not if that's her main aim.
I don't even know if she has feelings for Mick any more. I haven't seen any suggestions of them for a while now, although I wouldn't be surprised if they re-emerge.
You may be correct but I am sceptical I think as we have seen Whitney has a vindictive sneaky streak in her and some of her actions are very questionable
I don't like Lee and Nancy fighting
Clap clinic..Babe is so vile but right, will Abi tell Lee , thus Witt?
Even if Abi tells Lee, I've got my doubts he'd tell Whitney since he's so desperate to keep her.
With any luck, Babe will find out about her and Lee, and enraged that she might have got her nephew sick she will turn on her and reveal all. (Bit of a longshot, but here's hoping!)
Yes, that would be a good way to reveal the fake pregnancy.
Nancy needs some happiness. lets hope she get is soon....
I expect she'll get back with Tamwar sooner or later. She might stay at Masood's since she's friendly with him, so that would lead to reconnecting with Tamwar when he returns.
In Honey's first incarnation on Eastenders, her speech was littered with Malapropisms. Since she's been back, not one. Puzzling.
She's been made more mature and less annoying this time around, which is probably a good thing. I think I did notice a malapropism when she first returned so hopefully she'll still do it from time to time.
You may be correct but I am sceptical I think as we have seen Whitney has a vindictive sneaky streak in her and some of her actions are very questionable
Yes, she can be sly and vindictive, but I thought she was genuine this time. I could be wrong though.
tammyy2j
02-03-2016, 22:21
I think Nancy may move in with Donna, they seem good pals of late
Who is running the car lot for Phil?
Yes, I think you're probably right about Nancy and Donna.
Petulant toddler Nancy is buging me.
Woldont the first disco night as pub manager cause a fit? I was pondering is it something you need to tell the employer? Its just that maybe they need to know what to do when one happens not upset and call 999 when unless she hurts herself she dosent need an ambulance.
We defo need Dr Leg back.
Where is Vincent magicking up all the dosh from?
Jack was also very lascivious as Phil in the Bill.
Good scenes in the prison. I wonder what Lucas and Jordan are up to, and I hope they don't drag Denise into it. Lucas is very charismatic and I can understand how he worms his way under the defences of people who should know better.
Petulant toddler Nancy is buging me.
Woldont the first disco night as pub manager cause a fit? I was pondering is it something you need to tell the employer? Its just that maybe they need to know what to do when one happens not upset and call 999 when unless she hurts herself she dosent need an ambulance.
Most employers expect potential employees to declare any relevant medical conditions. I'm not sure of the legalities about epilepsy but it seems like common sense that people who spend a lot of time with epileptics need to know so they can react appropriately to a fit.
It was a huge betrayal for Lee to disclose Nancy's medical history even if she would have done so herself. It's none of his business. She is irritating to watch at the moment but I don't blame her for being angry at the blatant favouritism going on in the family. It used to happen with Johnny too.
Where is Vincent magicking up all the dosh from?
Is he still involved in criminal activities? Last thing I remember is he just wanted to be a family man. Are we supposed to believe a half share in The Albert brings in enough to maintain their extravagant lifestyle? :searchme:
I forgot about Lucas..yeah what is he up to? Seems like he already had his claws in to thingy and the was to drag Denise in, as one of his victims her statement a parole hearing would be maybe pivotal.
But Im veering more to a prison break where Lucas will attempt a Flatboy on Denise. Junior and Junior junior are his fixation now because the lord jebus has told him to save them.
I forgot about Lucas..yeah what is he up to? Seems like he already had his claws in to thingy and the was to drag Denise in, as one of his victims her statement a parole hearing would be maybe pivotal.
But Im veering more to a prison break where Lucas will attempt a Flatboy on Denise. Junior and Junior junior are his fixation now because the lord jebus has told him to save them.
I forgot about Lucas..yeah what is he up to? Seems like he already had his claws in to thingy and the was to drag Denise in, as one of his victims her statement a parole hearing would be maybe pivotal.
But Im veering more to a prison break where Lucas will attempt a Flatboy on Denise. Junior and Junior junior are his fixation now because the lord jebus has told him to save them.
I think he'd like Denise back too but I'm sure he wouldn't hesitate to be completely ruthless if she gets in his way.
Bit in bold: he's no longer a believer (according to him anyway) :p
flappinfanny
04-03-2016, 00:13
Why would Jordan forgive Lucas, just like that? Also what was all that stuff with Jack? The only person speaking any sense was Phil and he was rat arsed!
The best scenes tonight were between Linda and Nancy and Donna and Nancy. I hope they develop the friendship with Donna and Nancy, also the Donna storyline could be interesting.
I am just wondering if there is going to be twist with Jack and his new lady friend. Is it his Lady friend? Are we jumping to conclusions? Could she be a mate and he is not actually marring her??? May be I am way off beam with this one????
Why would Jordan forgive Lucas, just like that?
I agree. I expected Jordan to forgive his dad because Lucas is very persuasive, but it seemed to happen as soon as they set eyes on each other without any persuasion needed. Slightly bizarre...
The only person speaking any sense was Phil and he was rat arsed!
Phil's very funny now he's dying and thinks he has nothing left to lose. The writers should make the most of Steve McFadden's comic ability from now on.
I hope they develop the friendship with Donna and Nancy, also the Donna storyline could be interesting.
I agree about the Donna storyline. She's a character that deserves a lot more screen time.
Rear window
04-03-2016, 16:38
I agree. I expected Jordan to forgive his dad because Lucas is very persuasive, but it seemed to happen as soon as they set eyes on each other without any persuasion needed. Slightly bizarre...
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I can't remember how all the Lucas/Jordan stuff started... Jordan had gone to Libby's?
had jordan already been in contact with lucas before denise found and took him in
parkerman
04-03-2016, 17:14
I agree. I expected Jordan to forgive his dad because Lucas is very persuasive, but it seemed to happen as soon as they set eyes on each other without any persuasion needed. Slightly bizarre...
I think there is more to all this than we've been led to believe so far and that, as lizann says, they had been in contact before and worked all this out between them.
I think there is more to all this than we've been led to believe so far and that, as lizann says, they had been in contact before and worked all this out between them.
Yes, you could well be right.
flappinfanny
05-03-2016, 00:00
I like the friendship between Nancy and Donna, I hope they develop this more. I hope Nancy doesn't go back to the pub with Mick and Linda and goes her own way. I agree the Jordan/Lucas storyline has a good twist and could be interesting. Not keen on the Claudette/Vincent stuff, a bit :moonie:
Liz and parkerman were correct that Lucas and Jordan have been in touch (and planning his escape!) for weeks. I'm finding it a really intriguing and enjoyable storyline. I hope Lucas doesn't kidnap poor Denise again! :eek:
Lisa Hammond has made Donna the most interesting and likeable member of the Hubbard family in my opinion. I agree she and Nancy work well together, so I hope they remain close friends and flatmates.
oh denise what have you done
tammyy2j
05-03-2016, 23:12
I really can't believe Denise spoke up for Lucas to the governor of the prison
Does Jack ever visit his "pregnant" niece Abi or Max in prison besides just seeing Ronnie and Dot
I like Donna and Nancy's friendship too
storyseeker1
06-03-2016, 00:16
I can't believe what a dope Jordan is. Lucas really has him sucked in. I mean; he started out telling Jordan that it was just gonna be them and JJ, and then suddenly he's talking about taking Denise with them, even though Jordan knows full well she'll never go for it. It's obvious he hasn't changed, but Jordan is too blind to see it. I just can't believe he would actually think that going on the run is the ideal life for JJ. Has he no sense?! Taking a small boy like that and going on the run from the police with a convicted murderer!
I can't believe what a dope Jordan is. Lucas really has him sucked in. I mean; he started out telling Jordan that it was just gonna be them and JJ, and then suddenly he's talking about taking Denise with them, even though Jordan knows full well she'll never go for it. It's obvious he hasn't changed, but Jordan is too blind to see it. I just can't believe he would actually think that going on the run is the ideal life for JJ. Has he no sense?! Taking a small boy like that and going on the run from the police with a convicted murderer!
Intelligent people fall for charismatic manipulators all the time. Lucas is an expert, and Jordan's young and probably desperate to believe his father's not really evil. Hopefully he'll come to his senses before things go too far, especially because he now has his own son to protect.
storyseeker1
06-03-2016, 13:46
Intelligent people fall for charismatic manipulators all the time. Lucas is an expert, and Jordan's young and probably desperate to believe his father's not really evil. Hopefully he'll come to his senses before things go too far, especially because he now has his own son to protect.
Hopefully, but from what I saw in the promo shots for the upcoming eps, it's gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better. Shows Jordan smashing a door down, in what I assume will be the scene when he realises Denise is trying to stop him and Lucas from escaping. Guy's obviously got his dad's temper, which is a worry in itself.
I hope Jordan won't turn out to be a villain too! :eek:
storyseeker1
06-03-2016, 15:18
I hope Jordan won't turn out to be a villain too! :eek:
Me, too. Spoilers for the upcoming eps don't reveal anything more of what's gonna happen next week after Mother's Day, except that the Hubbards and Foxes struggle to come to terms with it, and are forced to keep a dark secret. That alas could mean anything.
Rear window
06-03-2016, 15:19
Me, too. Spoilers for the upcoming eps don't reveal anything more of what's gonna happen next week after Mother's Day, except that the Hubbards and Foxes struggle to come to terms with it, and are forced to keep a dark secret. That alas could mean anything.
A dark secret? Not who killed Lucy? :-)
Rear window
06-03-2016, 15:19
Me, too. Spoilers for the upcoming eps don't reveal anything more of what's gonna happen next week after Mother's Day, except that the Hubbards and Foxes struggle to come to terms with it, and are forced to keep a dark secret. That alas could mean anything.
A dark secret? Not who killed Lucy? :-)
storyseeker1
06-03-2016, 16:50
A dark secret? Not who killed Lucy? :-)
I doubt it., or at least I hope not. Too many know as it is. My guess is it's probably whatever secret that Claudette is keeping, or possibly it might be something involving Lucas, depending how the whole thing with his prison break is gonna turn out. If he succeeds, some people might be pressured into keeping silent. Or maybe he gets murdered by someone (like Patrick) who does it to protect Denise. Or maybe people keep silent about Jordan's involvement in the breakout. We'll have to wait and see.
Me, too. Spoilers for the upcoming eps don't reveal anything more of what's gonna happen next week after Mother's Day, except that the Hubbards and Foxes struggle to come to terms with it, and are forced to keep a dark secret. That alas could mean anything.
the secret could be claudette killing gavin or jordan killing libby
so any of den's gang which includes eric and gavin and kathy's brother ted could be vincent's real father as lady in red claudette gets around
flappinfanny
07-03-2016, 23:02
Well after all that hype that was disappointing. I didn't know Paul could drive, let alone have a car. Is Gavin dead? The Nancy and Lee stuff is getting very boring now.
Mother's day continues for the next two episodes, so hopefully there's plenty more drama to come. It would have been a lot more gripping if Phil hadn't already heavily hinted that Claudette did away with Henry, and if her whacking Gavin over the head hadn't been released in the spoilers. A ready-made place to bury the body has even been set up in the Hubbard's basement. Let's hope that overused soap cliché's just been done to tease us!
I'm not sure if Gavin included himself as one of the men Claudette slept with back in the day. He thought he shouldn't have to pay now because she gave it away free to the others in the past. That means Eric, Ted or Den (and maybe Gavin) are possibly Vincent's father (Eric being the most obvious since it would create the most drama). Are we really going to find out that yet another Albert Square resident has a secret parent? :wall:
Nancy is out of control, and I agree the sibling rivalry is boring now. Hopefully the shock of hurting Ollie will put a stop to it.
Rear window
08-03-2016, 08:53
Indeed, what a nice basement for a body.
If Gavin is actually dead, and tbh we have seen someone recover from a blow to the head with an iron, then that'd be good.
Rear window
08-03-2016, 08:53
Indeed, what a nice basement for a body.
If Gavin is actually dead, and tbh we have seen someone recover from a blow to the head with an iron, then that'd be good.
parkerman
08-03-2016, 10:00
If Gavin is actually dead, what happened to the idea that he was going to be the biggest villain of all time in Eastenders?
So maybe he isn't.......
It seems too obvious that Gavin's dead given all the spoilers that have been released about him and Claudette for the Mother's Day episodes.
Perhaps Lucas (or even Jordan) will be killed off...
Rear window
08-03-2016, 14:49
If Gavin is actually dead, what happened to the idea that he was going to be the biggest villain of all time in Eastenders?
So maybe he isn't.......
They regularly rise from the dead in Eastendersland.
He may come back as a proper zombie villain.
parkerman
08-03-2016, 15:01
They regularly rise from the dead in Eastendersland.
He may come back as a proper zombie villain.
Along with yet another reincarnation of Dirty Den?
tammyy2j
08-03-2016, 20:42
so any of den's gang which includes eric and gavin and kathy's brother ted could be vincent's real father as lady in red claudette gets around
It sounded like Claudette wanted Eric for herself but he choose his wife Peggy and his family
Does someone die this week?
I hope Patrick or Denise don't die
parkerman
08-03-2016, 20:59
Is it just me, or have Claudette's bosoms doubled in size over the last couple of days.....?
tammyy2j
08-03-2016, 21:04
Is it just me, or have Claudette's bosoms doubled in size over the last couple of days.....?
They are quite distracting, her back must be killing :p
Rear window
08-03-2016, 21:11
Is it just me, or have Claudette's bosoms doubled in size over the last couple of days.....?
And they didn't stop jiggling about! Honestly I was giggling like mad - I don't know why it amused me so much.
seriously denise call the cops, run from the house
jordan is just as evil as lucas
claudette's rack is impressive
seriously denise call the cops, run from the house
jordan is just as evil as lucas
claudette's rack is impressive
flappinfanny
08-03-2016, 23:48
Well I enjoyed that for all the wrong reasons. Who says EE can't do comedy. :D Claudette had turned into Janet Brown with all those accents. I half expected Mike Yarwood to turn up in the basement.
I would have also thrown the scrag end that is witless Whitney out. The hubbard storyline is getting a bit complicated now, I don't even know if Lamb and Treadwell Collins even can remember what is cracking off with the twists and turns, never mind poor Claudette. It is retcon after retcon.
However it was a much better episode, even if the writing was iffy. Diane Parish was the stand out performer tonight, for all the right reasons.
next retcon eric is alive
Claudette confirmed tonight that she knew she was sending Fatboy to his death (it took me a few seconds to work out who they meant by "Arthur" :o). She's got absolutely no remorse for his or Henry's death, or for ruthlessly lying to Vincent all these years. I can't say I blame Vincent for throttling her after that extreme provocation! :ninja:
jordan is just as evil as lucas
I'm not yet convinced he's outright evil. I think there's still a chance he's under Lucas' spell and desperate for his approval by bringing Denise along. He's convinced Lucas has changed, so he doesn't believe he's taking Denise and JJ along with a killer.
I guess we'll find out for sure one way or the other tomorrow...
The Carters are making a big mistake not getting Ollie medical help. Everyone should get checked out after a bump to the head as it can kill even if the patient feels fine.
Babe on purpose destroying the truce..she openly vile yet all ways the next second she is adored?
storyseeker1
09-03-2016, 01:33
The Carters are making a big mistake not getting Ollie medical help. Everyone should get checked out after a bump to the head as it can kill even if the patient feels fine.
I suppose it's one of those things where if you can't see anything bad then you don't think it's anything serious. It's easy to happen unfortunately. No one ever thinks something like this can happen to you until it does.
storyseeker1
09-03-2016, 02:07
Considering the way Claudette was speaking, I would have strangled her if it were me! So I don't fancy her chances with tough boy Vincent! Ironic; she tried all his life to make him tough by lying to him and everything, and now she's got her wish. The phrase, "Be careful what you wish for", comes to mind. I just can't believe how she could be so stupid by acting that way in front of Vincent, and not imagine that he wouldn't be upset when he learned the truth.
Rear window
09-03-2016, 08:05
A complete Eastenders classic when the dead body gets up and runs away. Done to death maybe?
I think he's going to be very angry and she might not have Vincent to look out for her now.
The fight was nasty - Lee should be more restrained after having been a squaddie. Why not take him and get him checked out? And what's the business feeding him whilst he's lay down. Is that normal these days?
The Carters are making a big mistake not getting Ollie medical help. Everyone should get checked out after a bump to the head as it can kill even if the patient feels fine.
i agree instead mick broke a chair he and linda should have taken ollie straight to hospital
linda talked about going to hospital with johnny when he was young as he was premature so thought she would be more cautious
The Carters are making a big mistake not getting Ollie medical help. Everyone should get checked out after a bump to the head as it can kill even if the patient feels fine.
i agree instead mick broke a chair he and linda should have taken ollie straight to hospital
linda talked about going to hospital with johnny when he was young as he was premature so thought she would be more cautious
tammyy2j
10-03-2016, 13:54
Do you think Libby or Patrick could be the next fatality caught up in Lucas and Claudette's drama
Do you think Libby or Patrick could be the next fatality caught up in Lucas and Claudette's drama
I can't see either of them being killed off, although I suppose Libby's a possibility since she's not a regular character. I think Lucas is the most likely to die, followed by Jordan. Also, perhaps Patrick won't be successful in stopping Vincent from killing Claudette (although I hope that's not the case because I think there's more to explore between her and Vincent before she gets her comeuppance).
I don't even know for sure if there will be a fatality...
Remember there's two episodes on again tonight folks. :thumbsup:
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Is Claudette dead¿¿¿ :eek:
i was expecting her to wake and vincent finish her off, now he has buried her assume she is dead
i hate this malarkey of burying bodies under houses and pubs, waiting for long reveal
Is Claudette dead¿¿¿ :eek:
i was expecting her to wake and vincent finish her off, now he has buried her assume she is dead
i hate this malarkey of burying bodies under houses and pubs, waiting for long reveal
ooo a twist in the tale....didn't see that coming??!!
tammyy2j
10-03-2016, 21:39
How did she get out if Vincent buried her?
I was really hoping Patrick was going to call the police and tell what happened but instead gets social services to take JJ, Patrick knows Chelsea is Lucas and Denise's daughter so they will always be connected
Libby, Darren and Tamwar were on a fishing holiday, good they are all still friends and still no news of Libby's secret or is that dropped now
Kim singing the witch is dead was funny :rotfl:
Ronnie was able to find the hotel in the middle of nowhere, great navigation skills by her :p
I think Honey may have got through to Phil
How did she get out if Vincent buried her?
Can only think Vincent panicked about Patrick contacting the police and moved her before the concrete was laid. Be interesting to see if eventually we get a plausible explanation . Assuming she recovers I guess Claudette gets control again over Vincent .
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Jorden will be all kinds of miffed off when he gets out and nicking his kid aint going to help. Kid would be safer with a temp home away from a non veted carer, who if asked the father wouldnt want housing his kin.
Nancy is still being irksome.
How did Claudette unbury herself is she a buffy fan?
Squigal! anyone else hope we would never here thast nsff reference again.
Brilliant couple of episodes tonight! :thumbsup:
How did she get out if Vincent buried her?
I was thinking Vincent buried her in an extremely shallow grave and she managed to crawl after he'd gone. That's the stuff of Hollywood movies, but I don't think that'd stop the EE team. :D
Glen's explanation is a possibility too.
I thought it was odd we weren't shown Vincent digging a grave or the grave itself, so there could be another explanation. Perhaps he dug a hole and just put enough rubble on top to hide the body? Since he planned to oversee the concrete being laid, he could stop anyone from moving any rubble etc.
I can't wait for Claudette's return and vengeance... :eek:
Patrick knows Chelsea is Lucas and Denise's daughter so they will always be connected
Very good point!
...still no news of Libby's secret or is that dropped now
Libby's secret was Jordan stealing from Chelsea.
I wonder if there are plans to bring Jordan back? I think he could be a good long term character.
Ronnie was able to find the hotel in the middle of nowhere, great navigation skills by her :p
She was shown looking at a map on her phone. :p
It was a good and funny twist that the wedding wasn't Jack's after all. :lol:
I think Honey may have got through to Phil
I hope so. Much as I can't work up much sympathy for the nasty bully, I also don't want to carry on watching him drink himself to death.
Jorden will be all kinds of miffed off when he gets out and nicking his kid aint going to help. Kid would be safer with a temp home away from a non veted carer, who if asked the father wouldnt want housing his kin.
Jordan listened to Denise and gave up Lucas in the end, so I'm not so sure he wouldn't want her caring for JJ. Someone decent who's already attached to JJ has got to be better than unknown foster carers surely?
Did anyone else notice Lucas quoting the bible when he was being dragged away by the prison guards? Force of habit or is he secretly still a believer after all? :D
flappinfanny
10-03-2016, 23:12
i was expecting her to wake and vincent finish her off, now he has buried her assume she is dead
i hate this malarkey of burying bodies under houses and pubs, waiting for long reveal
I agree, I am glad they didn't copy Coronation Street and go down that route.
Two highly ridiculously camp episodes, but at the same time two highly enjoyable episodes. I genuinely wanted to come back and watch the second instalment tonight. How often can you say that with Coronation Street on a Monday and Friday?
I am glad Claudette is still alive. Many twists and turns tonight. Honey is very grating and needs a punch. I did chuckle at Kim singing 'Ding dong the witch is dead.' :D I like the friendship building with Donna and Nancy, but it is such a shame Nancy has moved back into the Vic.
For me Denise, Donna and Phil were the stand out performers tonight, along with Patrick and a surprisingly good Vincent.
No EE tomorrow. :crying:
xx_Dan_xx
10-03-2016, 23:29
is this the last appearance of Lucas? While I understand he's in prison for life, it was nice to see a returning character.
is this the last appearance of Lucas? While I understand he's in prison for life, it was nice to see a returning character.
I've really enjoyed seeing him again too. I haven't read any spoilers about any further appearances, but to me it felt like the end of it tonight. If that's true, I hope we see him again a few years down the line.
jack's mate dc skase from bill always a home for ex bill
storyseeker1
10-03-2016, 23:52
is this the last appearance of Lucas? While I understand he's in prison for life, it was nice to see a returning character.
I doubt it. Even EE wouldn't be able to bring back a guy who was in prison for 3 murders, attempted murder, kidnapping and holding someone prisoner, then holding several people prisoner, and then attempting to break out of prison. There's no way EE could get someone out of prison with that kind of record without making it believable. The justice system isn't THAT bad!
I'm not surprised the wedding turned out not to be Jacks'. The idea that Jack would move on so quickly was just too ridiculous. Plus, I've seen a similar kind of scene done before with several films and such. Not exactly original, but still highly enjoyable!
The scenes with Nancy and Lee broke my heart, because I know what's coming in later eps with Ollie and everything. I just hope they can find a way through it all.
As for Phil; well, that's basically the same as it has been up to now. He keeps drinking, going through some personal sh*t and anger etc. Nothing new.
Lucas and Denise; was among the best I saw! I loved the scene where she went to tell him to get lost! If there was ever any doubt that he was still not right in the head, there isn't now. Guy's completely round the bend! I'm just glad Denise has now well and truly seen it, and hopefully Jordan has got it through his skull now, too. I hope Jordan gets out soon, as I was enjoying his character.
I was a bit mad at Patrick. It seemed so heartless of him to keep going on at Denise to abandon little JJ. I mean, what's going to happen to the poor kid if Denise won't take him in? I know he's afraid that Lucas will still have a connection to Denise, but that's already a done deal, as he's Chelsea's father etc. I also found it despicable of him because he was never there for his own boys, and now he's trying to convince Denise to abandon someone else's child that she can help. I personally hope that him calling social services will blow up in his face, and get Denise throwing him out. On the other hand, though, I can understand that he's going through an awful lot right now, what with Claudette and everything. But then again, he was never fond of JJ and Jordan anyway. With any luck, Claudette will come up right behind him and give him a heart attack!
The ending was the best! Though, like everyone else, I can't figure out how Claudette managed to dig herself out of a grave (even if it was shallow), get out the house without anyone noticing, and wander around the streets for hours with a busted head??? I'm guessing she has amnesia for the moment, so that's her taken care of for the time being. Once she gets her memory back, she'll obviously be back for revenge.
I doubt it. Even EE wouldn't be able to bring back a guy who was in prison for 3 murders, attempted murder, kidnapping and holding someone prisoner, then holding several people prisoner, and then attempting to break out of prison. There's no way EE could get someone out of prison with that kind of record without making it believable. The justice system isn't THAT bad!
I can't speak for anyone else, but when I said I hope we see Lucas again I meant in prison. They can wring a lot of drama out of prison visits as we've seen.
The ending was the best! Though, like everyone else, I can't figure out how Claudette managed to dig herself out of a grave (even if it was shallow), get out the house without anyone noticing, and wander around the streets for hours with a busted head??? I'm guessing she has amnesia for the moment, so that's her taken care of for the time being. Once she gets her memory back, she'll obviously be back for revenge.
I wonder if Gavin could be involved in Claudette's escape?
I still say there's a reason we weren't shown Vincent digging the grave or even the grave itself (possibly because it would have been obvious Claudette could escape from it if she wasn't quite dead - which could have spoiled the surprise).
Can only think Vincent panicked about Patrick contacting the police and moved her before the concrete was laid. Be interesting to see if eventually we get a plausible explanation . Assuming she recovers I guess Claudette gets control again over Vincent .
but why was Vincent looking so worried and shifty when he saw the concrete had been laid?
if he knew Claudette wasn't under there
and for me Patrick was poor?
one minute stumbling around hardly able to speak coherently and dragging his leg
next walking and talking like the stroke never happened?
but why was Vincent looking so worried and shifty when he saw the concrete had been laid?
if he knew Claudette wasn't under there
I think Vincent tends to look suspicious even when he hasn't done anything wrong. But I wonder if Vincent's concerned look on this occasion was more about keeping us viewers not to suspect anything and add impact to the final scene ?
Did anybody think of this when the wedding couple was revealed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2TYGU6OcXk
I wonder if Gavin could be involved in Claudette's escape?
I still say there's a reason we weren't shown Vincent digging the grave or even the grave itself (possibly because it would have been obvious Claudette could escape from it if she wasn't quite dead - which could have spoiled the surprise).
Makes a lot of sense Dazzle on both counts. Gavin certainly seems to be aware of everything going on in every household on Albert Square. Just hope we get some answers and resolved storylines in the near future. Bobby Beale for starters, who will probably be back soon for the Easter holidays.
Rear window
11-03-2016, 11:24
Twist!
Oh well I didn't know there was two episodes on last night, so this mornings Iplayer session I clicked on the top one and then shook my head in confusion until I saw the 'part 2' label on it.
Watched them in order after that.
Well, I'm glad there's not a body under the floor, cos that's too Corrie cliched.
I loved the bursting in to the wedding bit, but the running to get there was silly. She should be out running with Kush!
Lots of little bits to make Patrick decide he would keep quiet, "for his family" but then goes and reports the kid to SS. Hmm. I understand about the link to Lucas but I don't think denise will be happy.
Rear window
11-03-2016, 11:24
dup
Oh I just realised an ironic link, Blackwood interviewed Buffy the actress yesrd ago during the period Buffy came back from the dead and had to dig herself out of her grave . I know that but I cant remember where I just put my socks.
parkerman
11-03-2016, 14:43
I have to say I didn't quite follow why the police stormed into the Square so quickly, all lights flashing, to get Jordan. The note Libby had said "Phone police. Lucas escaping." (Or something like that) . How did they know so quickly that Jordan was involved?
I have to say I didn't quite follow why the police stormed into the Square so quickly, all lights flashing, to get Jordan. The note Libby had said "Phone police. Lucas escaping." (Or something like that) . How did they know so quickly that Jordan was involved?
Yes, that was ridiculous. I can't remember who actually phoned the police but if it was Libby I suppose she would have worked out Jordan was involved and said so on the phone. I'm guessing there was already a manhunt afoot for the escaped Lucas which is why the police took it seriously enough to come immediately to the square all guns blazing.
I still find it a little far fetched however and think it was done more for effect than realism.
Yes, that was ridiculous. I can't remember who actually phoned the police but if it was Libby I suppose she would have worked out Jordan was involved and said so on the phone. I'm guessing there was already a manhunt afoot for the escaped Lucas which is why the police took it seriously enough to come immediately to the square all guns blazing.
I still find it a little far fetched however and think it was done more for effect than realism.
Massod rang the police I think
Massod rang the police I think
yes he did but why didn't libby straight off
Massod rang the police I think
yes he did but why didn't libby straight off
yes he did but why didn't libby straight off
She was panicking and not thinking straight whilst Masood kept his cool.
I think what I said above regarding telling the police about Jordan probably still applies since Libby would have told Masood.
we should have seen lucas escape and recapture
we should have seen lucas escape and recapture
Don Gilet could probably only commit a limited amount of time because of his work on Holby City.
Rear window
12-03-2016, 08:38
I did wonder on the sanity of them being able to visit Lucas so soon after an escape. Surely he'd be on a loss of privileges. And as Denise was possibly implicated (until the police check out her phone etc) then she probably shouldn't be let near him either.
I too wondered why the police razzed like mad into the square.
I did wonder on the sanity of them being able to visit Lucas so soon after an escape. Surely he'd be on a loss of privileges.
I thought that too. I'm pretty sure that final visit wouldn't have been allowed.
flappinfanny
13-03-2016, 16:14
I've really enjoyed seeing him again too. I haven't read any spoilers about any further appearances, but to me it felt like the end of it tonight. If that's true, I hope we see him again a few years down the line.
He only had to jump over the wall from Holby to film those scenes. :)
flappinfanny
13-03-2016, 16:19
Did anybody think of this when the wedding couple was revealed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2TYGU6OcXk
Brilliant. :D
claudette's boobs helped her out of the grave, they are weapons
flappinfanny
14-03-2016, 18:12
claudette's boobs helped her out of the grave, they are weapons
:lol:
For some reason I was thinking of Police Academy.
xx_Dan_xx
14-03-2016, 20:48
Is Delphine the stalker?
Yeah that is what I'm thinking. Something must of happened to trigger the stalking and Jack would of told her last week.
xx_Dan_xx
14-03-2016, 20:48
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is delephine penny's mother, where is she?
gavin and sister back to fleece hubbards
does anyone know gavin is sharon real father outside of mitchells and beales
is delephine penny's mother, where is she?
gavin and sister back to fleece hubbards
does anyone know gavin is sharon real father outside of mitchells and beales
Rear window
14-03-2016, 22:03
Yeah that is what I'm thinking. Something must of happened to trigger the stalking and Jack would of told her last week.
But that was her wedding night. Who'd be in the bushes lurking in the square?
I reckon it's Joels' kids. Or his brother.
flappinfanny
15-03-2016, 00:03
Delephine reminds me of "Open All Hours."
https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M4883dea1d9160fcd10bd8b553f6de6ado2&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
Best bit of a poor episode was Shirley smiling and of course Steve McFadden.
flappinfanny
15-03-2016, 00:09
is delephine penny's mother, where is she?
Penny's mum and Jacks first wife was Selina. They divorced after what happened to Penny.
I reckon it's Joels' kids. Or his brother.
I think so too. Joel's death, the effect of it on his kids, and his brother falling for Ronnie, have all happened for a reason.
I enjoyed the Ronnie and Jack scenes even though I've been indifferent to his return. I hope they keep the chemistry going now they're a couple again.
The Ronnie/Phil scene was moving. It's very rare to see Phil Mitchell completely vulnerable and accepting comfort like that.
It'll be interesting to see what Gavin's planning. It'll be even more interesting if it turns out he's well aware Claudette's alive and that his plot involves her.
We need to see more of uber bitch Margaret! :D
Rear window
15-03-2016, 08:20
It'll be interesting to see what Gavin's planning. It'll be even more interesting if it turns out he's well aware Claudette's alive and that his plot involves her.
We need to see more of uber bitch Margaret! :D
Yes what has he got planned?
Is he not a wanted man though?
Is he not a wanted man though?
As far as I know... :searchme:
Yes what has he got planned?
Is he not a wanted man though?
Since when has that been a problem in soapland :p
Im pondering, will Nancy's admission of pushing lee onto the baby an act of aggressive anger causing the head injury get her into a situation where its required she not be in the premises the baby lives in. It could be seen that they then didnt go to an A and E e to avoid the issue of how it happened. The doctor was clearly not convinced why anyone whos baby had just had a bash to the head would just think, no the kid will be fine and move on without any shade of worry.
patrick didn't see a ghost, is claudy out of hospital wandering around already :p
Rear window
16-03-2016, 09:22
patrick didn't see a ghost, is claudy out of hospital wandering around already :p
But it was really funny ... we know she's not a ghost...
flappinfanny
16-03-2016, 10:52
A better episode last night. The opening scene was well acted and Kellie Bright was very good as was Danny Dyer, one of his better performances. The situation with Ollie is all down to Whitney!
I still think we need a break from the Carters having a major storyline so soon, did we need to have the Ollie storyline?
Steve McFadden knocked it out the park again and it was a nice touch having Sharon behind the bar. :)
All things considered a big improvement.
flappinfanny
16-03-2016, 10:54
But it was really funny ... we know she's not a ghost...
Yes that was funny. :D
Rear window
16-03-2016, 10:55
I do wonder if storylines get thought through completely. Having a childhood illness that manifests and can be cured is one thing, but something serious that chances are isn't going to go away is a forever within the soap. Even if they ignore it or try to, we all know that they're sidestepping something.
Maybe Ollie will be all better within a week and this storyline goes away?
They have handled Stacey's condition really well though over time, and the psychosis has been done nicely. So maybe they can handle this.
The story of baby Ollie's head injury is a tense and moving one. :(
patrick didn't see a ghost, is claudy out of hospital wandering around already :p
I thought it was his guilty conscience playing tricks on him. However, maybe I'm wrong and she's already put a plan in motion to "haunt" Patrick and Vincent (and wearing the same pristine outfit too!). :D
A better episode last night. The opening scene was well acted and Kellie Bright was very good as was Danny Dyer, one of his better performances. The situation with Ollie is all down to Whitney!
Whitney played a minor part in the hostilities between Nancy and Lee, but Nancy's resentment runs much deeper than her. Nancy was at fault for starting yet another argument with Lee and shoving him around the kitchen. Not the actions of an adult. I don't think I could ever forgive her if I were Mick or Linda.
Both Nancy and the usually over-protective Linda have acted out of character to facilitate this storyline... :wall:
parkerman
17-03-2016, 21:14
Is it just me? Am I old fashioned? But if I had something very important to discuss with my family - like, oh I don't know, say leaving my daughter and going off to live in America, that sort of thing - I think the last place I would want t o have this conversation is in a pub.
Perhaps it's just me.....:hmm:
Rear window
17-03-2016, 21:18
Is it just me? Am I old fashioned? But if I had something very important to discuss with my family - like, oh I don't know, say leaving my daughter and going off to live in America, that sort of thing - I think the last place I would want t o have this conversation is in a pub.
Perhaps it's just me.....:hmm:
You're not the only one.
It's a bit odd. I could understand celebrating to wave someone off ..
Who was the woman in the counselling? I recognise her but don't remember the storyline
You're not the only one.
It's a bit odd. I could understand celebrating to wave someone off ..
Who was the woman in the counselling? I recognise her but don't remember the storyline
She was the annoying hippy new age Doctor in doctors.
I was so hoping for Julias theme music to kick off when Mart got in the taxi, cant stand the guy.
Arguements here in new splashy land, other bod here thinks Arthurs situation wasnt Nancys fault but her physical aggresion against Lee denoted her lack of control of her temper and to the outsider a understanding of what she had done had thus she didnt push for a hospital visit for the baby.Ecen if the kid recovers I think mick wont leave her alobe with him again, that is if social services havent requested she not be living on the premises.
Vincent, wait till Claudettes throat has healed then report her to the police .. its simples
Phil the street drinker, Sharon came with nothing no she has your home and booted you from it and the selfish thug duo Ben and J enjoying laying in the boot on a dying man ..nice lot the Michells
You're not the only one.
It's a bit odd. I could understand celebrating to wave someone off ..
Who was the woman in the counselling? I recognise her but don't remember the storyline
She was the annoying hippy new age Doctor in doctors.
I was so hoping for Julias theme music to kick off when Mart got in the taxi, cant stand the guy.
Arguements here in new splashy land, other bod here thinks Arthurs situation wasnt Nancys fault but her physical aggresion against Lee denoted her lack of control of her temper and to the outsider a understanding of what she had done had thus she didnt push for a hospital visit for the baby.Ecen if the kid recovers I think mick wont leave her alobe with him again, that is if social services havent requested she not be living on the premises.
Vincent, wait till Claudettes throat has healed then report her to the police .. its simples
Phil the street drinker, Sharon came with nothing no she has your home and booted you from it and the selfish thug duo Ben and J enjoying laying in the boot on a dying man ..nice lot the Michells
tammyy2j
17-03-2016, 22:55
You're not the only one.
It's a bit odd. I could understand celebrating to wave someone off ..
Who was the woman in the counselling? I recognise her but don't remember the storyline
Lorna is an ex of Phil from years back, the actress was in Doctors and The Bill
I am glad Martin is back and he punched Kush, I thought Stacey was selfish not being honest with Rebecca and Sonia as why Martin left
I still hold hope that Martin will be proven as Arthur's real father
Mick should be angry at both Lee and Nancy, I think this storyline seems hastily written to accommodate Maddy Hill's exit as Nancy
I hope Donna tells Dot and not let Dot continue to think Fatboy is alive
flappinfanny
17-03-2016, 23:32
Martin punching Kush again is quite hilarious, because in the real world Kush would kill him. I did feel sorry for Martin, I may be in a minority here, but I would prefer Kush to be with Stacey, Arthur and meddling Carmel or as Sonia calls her the leprechaun. :)
At the least they will have to sort out access for Kushy.
I really feel for Donna. A rotten mother and a rotten brother.
Donna (Lisa Hammond) was the stand out performer tonight, excellent.
kim isn't shy in her admiration for vincent's brother, was that his partner, is he gay?
given the day it was sonia calling carmel a leprechaun was funny
im finding mick a tad annoying which really i shouldn't, should have sympathy and pity for him and linda over ollie but cant :searchme: Mick should be angry at lee as well as nancy and whitney too
seriously phil at shirley's flat, he has no shame, yet even in his drunken times he never slips out bobby killed lucy
Rear window
18-03-2016, 08:22
It was good to see Martin go to Stacey at the end. :)
does donna know it was actually ronnie who had fatboy killed mistaken for vincent
storyseeker1
19-03-2016, 02:09
does donna know it was actually ronnie who had fatboy killed mistaken for vincent
No, Vincent hasn't mentioned anything of Ronnie. Even Ronnie doesn't know that.
No, Vincent hasn't mentioned anything of Ronnie. Even Ronnie doesn't know that.
i hope donna finds out this, thought claudette might have said it
No, Vincent hasn't mentioned anything of Ronnie. Even Ronnie doesn't know that.
i hope donna finds out this, thought claudette might have said it
storyseeker1
19-03-2016, 02:30
Just watched the whole week's eps. I was glad to see Claudette still alive and get her comeuppance! I'm amazed really that she would have the audacity to go back and try to blackmail Vincent. Surely she should have known there was zero chance that would work, considering all that he had over her (knowing she killed his dad, Patrick's being a witness, Fatboy etc)? At the ending, with Pearl, I was almost expecting Claudette to steal her.
At least we know Gavin is still around, and I'm guessing he has more in store for Sharon and lot. I'm surprised his sister Mags is involved, though. I thought she had washed her hands of him. I'm gonna take a wild guess that after she supposedly went off with some friend, she basically lost everything she had. I'm interested to learn what Gavin has planned, something which Mags is even against.
I recognised the actress who played Lorna, but don't know anything of her character (before my time). I'm assuming she and Phil have history involving something with alcohol?
Mick's state with blaming Nancy is sad, but understandable. Ollie's barely been in hospital long, and he has a lot of grief and anger to work through.
xx_Dan_xx
19-03-2016, 15:09
i hope donna finds out this, thought claudette might have said it
Well, she knows the Mitchells planned it for Vincent, I don't think she cares about specifically who as I think she blames it all on her Mum, fatboy and the war with the mitchells.
xx_Dan_xx
19-03-2016, 15:09
i hope donna finds out this, thought claudette might have said it
Well, she knows the Mitchells planned it for Vincent, I don't think she cares about specifically who as I think she blames it all on her Mum, fatboy and the war with the mitchells.
flappinfanny
19-03-2016, 17:28
I am disliking Mick more as each episode passes. He is the parent, the adult. when he first came into the square he was a great parent, he is now letting himself and his family down, especially Linda. If I were Nancy I'd bugger off and leave 'em to it.
Nancy is being held back by her family and although this accident is terrible and a possible tragedy, it could be a good thing for Nancy escaping this claustrophobic situation. It could be the making of her. She is capable of so much more than helping out in a back street rundown boozer. Let Lee stay there with his revolting girlfriend for ever and a day.
I think the way Mick is behaving will tear the family apart. We all know where this story is heading.
I am disliking Mick more as each episode passes. He is the parent, the adult. when he first came into the square he was a great parent, he is now letting himself and his family down, especially Linda. If I were Nancy I'd bugger off and leave 'em to it.
Nancy is being held back by her family and although this accident is terrible and a possible tragedy, it could be a good thing for Nancy escaping this claustrophobic situation. It could be the making of her. She is capable of so much more than helping out in a back street rundown boozer. Let Lee stay there with his revolting girlfriend for ever and a day.
I think the way Mick is behaving will tear the family apart. We all know where this story is heading.
yes this seems contrived but we know it is the start of Nancy's exit story?
Ollie's head injury was as much an accident as death by dangerous driving. While it was unintentional, it was the result of reckless behaviour. An accident is unforeseeable and unavoidable - which can't be said for the high chair being pushed over in the midst of that row. Arguing like that in front of a young child is pretty indefensible by itself, let alone getting physically aggressive. Even very young babies get distressed by rows.
Nancy is wholly to blame in my eyes. I had plenty of sympathy for her before this incident because Lee stole her job and because Mick and Linda have been blatantly favouring Lee (and Johnny before him). However, to start shouting and pushing people around (especially in front of Ollie) was inexcusable. And yes, Nancy's recent personality transplant feels very contrived (unless it turns out there's a reason for it).
Mick has been getting on my nerves too, not because of the character's attitude but because of some cringeworthy acting...
Talking about acting, the Claudette/Vincent/Donna confrontation was pretty dire too, and only saved by Lisa Hammond (Donna) - who's proving to be very good given something to get her teeth into.
I really liked Martin and Stacey's sweet final scene... :wub:
parkerman
19-03-2016, 22:29
Mick has been getting on my nerves too, not because of the character's attitude but because of some cringeworthy acting...
I agree. Danny Dyer seems to have been given permission to ad lib more these days. If that is the case, I suggest he sticks to the scripts in future and listens to the director. His acting has gone from good to dire in a few weeks.
flappinfanny
19-03-2016, 23:50
Ollie's head injury was as much an accident as death by dangerous driving. While it was unintentional, it was the result of reckless behaviour. An accident is unforeseeable and unavoidable - which can't be said for the high chair being pushed over in the midst of that row. Arguing like that in front of a young child is pretty indefensible by itself, let alone getting physically aggressive. Even very young babies get distressed by rows.
Nancy is wholly to blame in my eyes. I had plenty of sympathy for her before this incident because Lee stole her job and because Mick and Linda have been blatantly favouring Lee (and Johnny before him). However, to start shouting and pushing people around (especially in front of Ollie) was inexcusable. And yes, Nancy's recent personality transplant feels very contrived (unless it turns out there's a reason for it).
Mick has been getting on my nerves too, not because of the character's attitude but because of some cringeworthy acting...
Talking about acting, the Claudette/Vincent/Donna confrontation was pretty dire too, and only saved by Lisa Hammond (Donna) - who's proving to be very good given something to get her teeth into.
I really liked Martin and Stacey's sweet final scene... :wub:
I agree re Danny Dyers acting, what is going on. The new producer needs to reign him in a bit.
I partly agree with you re Nancy, however I think Witless Whitney needs to take some of the blame as does Lee. For saying they are all adults they are not doing the younger generation any favours. Ollie is more mature than they are.
What did strike me was how clingy and needy the Carter kids are (apart from Johnny) And for saying Lee had been in the Army and when the Carters first arrived Nancy was living with her boyfriend Wayne getting married, how things have changed. I don't think they can function outside the family unit and that is the problem. It's not healthy. They don't have any real friends or interests outside the family, well Nancy does now with Donna, but apart from that they are pretty isolated.
Will Nancy make it up with Mick? If she leaves and they don't, Linda will blame Mick and this will put a strain on their marriage. I hope Nancy gets her Happy Ending, leaving with Tamwar, one things for certain, I don't see Nancy coming back to live in the square, she will leave the dirty rotten place behind. I think this will be the making of her.
I partly agree with you re Nancy, however I think Witless Whitney needs to take some of the blame as does Lee.
I certainly agree Lee and Whitney have contributed to Nancy's recent turbulent emotional state, and I think Mick and Linda have played an even bigger part. They've consistently taken Lee and Whitney's side, and dismissed Nancy's feelings when she's confided in them. As her parents, their job is to reassure her, but they've made matters a lot worse. And from what Nancy said, feeling second best is nothing new either.
I completely understand Nancy's recent anger, frustration and resentment towards her family. However, by resorting to aggression (especially in close proximity to her baby brother), she's lost the moral high ground. There's just no justification for violence, especially because Lee wasn't directly provoking her at the time. He was trying to leave the room when she pushed him.
She also attacked Whitney recently when Ryan stole the money. I know you Whitney haters will say she deserved it, but whether she did or not isn't the point. Nancy's become dangerous.
As I said on another thread, perhaps there'll be a credible explanation for this character change that'll mean she's blameless. That would be good, although sadly I think it's probably just plot device for her upcoming exit.
I His acting has gone from good to dire in a few weeks.
from good to Dyer....... lol
flappinfanny
21-03-2016, 16:23
Lets hope we get some development with Kyle this week. This character and storyline shows a lot of promise.
so becca and sonia accept arthur forgive Stacey
phil is a charmer with his compliments :p
so becca and sonia accept arthur forgive Stacey
phil is a charmer with his compliments :p
tammyy2j
21-03-2016, 22:40
Shirley has a share in the pub and her name above it but Sharon has to work there to help Linda, why can't Shirley?
Paul still runs at all Ben's texts yet he treats him bad
flappinfanny
21-03-2016, 23:42
Not a bad script from Daran Little. However how many times must we have Kyle turn up and be chucked out by Martin. 23???
I am looking forward to this storyline, so I hope EE don't spoil it. The duff duff was awful to honest.
Best bits of the episode Phil describing Buster as "Fishy Fred." :D Steve McFadden is brilliant as is Karl Howman, but criminally under used. Denise was excellent as always and Sharon behind the Queen Vic bar is so right, it's right! Enjoyed the scenes with Shirley and Sharon. Shirley to Sharon "some tart with big hair chucked him out." :lol:
Rear window
22-03-2016, 11:48
I have just watched it! I'm glad the truth is out for Kyle. Just hope Stacey doesn't melt down with the Kush stuff. It needs sorting out - but will be hard for them all.
Loved the Phil and Shirl scenes.
it was so good to see the fit and well treat the recovering mentaly unwell lady so empatheticly .. oh wait.
Rear window
22-03-2016, 21:18
Stacey was wonderful with her brother.
Martin seems to be dealing withthings she needs him to.
Am glad they went to see Kush.
Rear window
22-03-2016, 21:18
Stacey was wonderful with her brother.
Martin seems to be dealing withthings she needs him to.
Am glad they went to see Kush.
You could make a fortune selling door locks to soap bods, home and away being the meca of just walk in my gaff why dont you.
xx_Dan_xx
22-03-2016, 23:58
I'm not too sure about Martin. Most of the time he looks like he's accepted it and moved on but sometimes I get the feeling he's trying to patch wounds that aren't healing and think at some point this is coming to a head.
stacey needs to be honest with martin and treat him better, she can be selfish at times, really shocked she went to see kush already about him being part of arthur's life
tammyy2j
24-03-2016, 23:52
I hope Stacey does love and want Martin, I like them together and he seems a good dad to Arthur and Lily but Stacey should have told him the full truth about Kyle
Rebecca does know she was conceived also from one night of drunken hanky panky just like Arthur but at least she is speaking some truth about Kush :p he cant expect to be best friends with Martin still and start playing dad this fast
I think sometimes Sonia needs to stay out of Martin's business
Phil was great with Billy's kids, Billy and Honey, who has become the voice of reason of the Mitchells :p
Why would Ollie be released from hospital already if he has a serious head injury?
flappinfanny
24-03-2016, 23:57
A good solid episode. The scenes with Billy and Phil were excellent. Janet stole the episode for me, her little face laughing at what they had done to Phil was lovely to see. I do think Danny Dyer needs to raise his game a bit. I was not convinced by his performance tonight. I felt he was going through the motions.
tammyy2j
25-03-2016, 00:03
A good solid episode. The scenes with Billy and Phil were excellent. Janet stole the episode for me, her little face laughing at what they had done to Phil was lovely to see. I do think Danny Dyer needs to raise his game a bit. I was not convinced by his performance tonight. I felt he was going through the motions.
I feel Danny is trying way too hard, improvising his scenes which makes his acting in the really tense angry emotional scenes as "Dyer bad" :p, he has gone downhill
Steve plays drunk Phil so brilliantly
tammyy2j
25-03-2016, 00:03
I would like more scenes of honest talk between Phil and Billy, not of Phil bullying Billy
Nancy is still irking me, she is totaly unable to accept the consequrnses of her phiscaly aggressive actions that led to the head injury. Instead she is making it all about how she feels, while others are suffering the horror of having to wait to see what damage has been done, something that will roll out over a long agonosong period. Its not helping that everyone is telling her it wasnt her fault where as it was her temper that caused the incident, that cant really be described as an accident.
If a landlord aggressively threw me out of his pub having just purchased a drink and not beng given time to drink it I would report them to the people that issue the booze license. Certainly never go back if thats how he treats paying customers no matter what his personal issues, which a paying customer would probably not know about.
Martin and Stacy will never work, Kush granny and Martins daughter will make sure of that because all have an urge to do whats best for thmselves and no oneelse.
Nancy is still irking me, she is totaly unable to accept the consequrnses of her phiscaly aggressive actions that led to the head injury. Instead she is making it all about how she feels, while others are suffering the horror of having to wait to see what damage has been done, something that will roll out over a long agonosong period. Its not helping that everyone is telling her it wasnt her fault where as it was her temper that caused the incident, that cant really be described as an accident.
If a landlord aggressively threw me out of his pub having just purchased a drink and not beng given time to drink it I would report them to the people that issue the booze license. Certainly never go back if thats how he treats paying customers no matter what his personal issues, which a paying customer would probably not know about.
Martin and Stacy will never work, Kush granny and Martins daughter will make sure of that because all have an urge to do whats best for thmselves and no oneelse.
never would have thought nancy would sleep with kush even though both are single
phil wlll think he killed his grand kid may finally stop him drinking that babe is cunning though
never would have thought nancy would sleep with kush even though both are single
phil wlll think he killed his grand kid may finally stop him drinking that babe is cunning though
Now how was Phils violent action causeing the fall of Abi any different from Nancys violent action acgainst Lee causing the head injury of a baby.
Are both acidents? or both parties at fault or just Phil at fault bur not Nancy who is told its not her fault by most of the famil although both acted in anger didnt they?
Ben maybe all fake hard to Phil with his vile swagering comments but he is dating a delusioned maniac with killer instinks if she dosent get what she wants, she tried to deown her sister an covered up for Max when she thought he had killed Lucy then didnt clear him when she knew he was inocent. Add Babr to the mix and he will wke up to his man veg in the crisper one morning along with Pauls dismembered apple filled face.
Billy set an imposible task for ill Phil, it was him and Honey that choose their jobs over their kids and forced a position on the guy he would always fail. Addiction to booze is an illness like mentl illness and its frustrating that so many lucky unaflicted have no comprehension or campasion to those that are suffering. But not to understand that booze makes someone make poor decisions, in this case toagree to baby sit the kids, has Bill never been drunk? He did bed Carole one night takes alot a booze to ignore that negative personality.
Now how was Phils violent action causeing the fall of Abi any different from Nancys violent action acgainst Lee causing the head injury of a baby.
Are both acidents? or both parties at fault or just Phil at fault bur not Nancy who is told its not her fault by most of the famil although both acted in anger didnt they?
Ben maybe all fake hard to Phil with his vile swagering comments but he is dating a delusioned maniac with killer instinks if she dosent get what she wants, she tried to deown her sister an covered up for Max when she thought he had killed Lucy then didnt clear him when she knew he was inocent. Add Babr to the mix and he will wke up to his man veg in the crisper one morning along with Pauls dismembered apple filled face.
Billy set an imposible task for ill Phil, it was him and Honey that choose their jobs over their kids and forced a position on the guy he would always fail. Addiction to booze is an illness like mentl illness and its frustrating that so many lucky unaflicted have no comprehension or campasion to those that are suffering. But not to understand that booze makes someone make poor decisions, in this case toagree to baby sit the kids, has Bill never been drunk? He did bed Carole one night takes alot a booze to ignore that negative personality.
flappinfanny
25-03-2016, 23:13
I think Ian will end up employing Kyle as he is such a good cook. What possessed Billy to leave the kids with Phil? Nancy would never sleep around like that. I thought Kellie Bright was excellent again tonight. Babe is an evil old cow. I think she may turn against Abi if she finds out it was Lee she slept with. I think it is amusing if Lee does have the clap, he will then pass it on to Whitney. :)
Now how was Phils violent action causeing the fall of Abi any different from Nancys violent action acgainst Lee causing the head injury of a baby.
Are both acidents? or both parties at fault or just Phil at fault bur not Nancy who is told its not her fault by most of the famil although both acted in anger didnt they?
Very good point! Nancy didn't even have the excuse of being drunk.
I'd be feeling a hell of a lot more guilty if I was Nancy. She's said she's sorry a few times but appears to be more concerned with whether Mick will forgive her than whether Ollie has permanent brain damage. I don't think she quite comprehends that her brother's life has possibly been ruined and how overwhelmed Mick feels about it.
I do think Mick will forgive her eventually because it wasn't intentional, but it's completely understandable to me that he's so angry with her at the moment.
Billy set an imposible task for ill Phil, it was him and Honey that choose their jobs over their kids and forced a position on the guy he would always fail. Addiction to booze is an illness like mentl illness and its frustrating that so many lucky unaflicted have no comprehension or campasion to those that are suffering. But not to understand that booze makes someone make poor decisions, in this case toagree to baby sit the kids, has Bill never been drunk? He did bed Carole one night takes alot a booze to ignore that negative personality.
I find it hard to sympathise with Phil myself, but that's because he's a vile bully even when sober. However, I'm finding it hard to watch those that profess to love him keep turning their backs on him and calling him a loser.
Sharon herself said this week that alcoholism is a disease but she's no better than the rest of the family. She stayed with him through thick and thin - until he's dying. She even took up briefly with Gavin, who caused Phil to go back on the booze in the first place. No one seems to understand that Phil's not making a decision to put the booze first but that he can't help himself.
Mo Mouse
27-03-2016, 11:21
I would like to see Babe suffer some kind of atrocities that I won't mention on here but they are in my head. With the voices and lights.
Rear window
27-03-2016, 12:39
Sharon herself said this week that alcoholism is a disease but she's no better than the rest of the family. She stayed with him through thick and thin - until he's dying. She even took up briefly with Gavin, who caused Phil to go back on the booze in the first place. No one seems to understand that Phil's not making a decision to put the booze first but that he can't help himself.
You're right there. But then when they got married people did say it was a mistake...
Doesn't mean she shouldn't be there - did their vows include: in sickness and in health.
Her getting with Gavin and then getting rid of him was a bit of a nonsense really. It showed she didn't understand what he'd done to Phil
I would like to see Babe suffer some kind of atrocities that I won't mention on here but they are in my head. With the voices and lights.
Are there often voices and lights in your head? It'd certainly explain a few things... :p
Rear window
27-03-2016, 13:38
Are there often voices and lights in your head? It'd certainly explain a few things... :p
I was asked if I ever heard voices once and I told the nurse it was just bits of pop songs that float round that need to be let out. I randomly sing (out of tune) bits of stuff from time to time.
Mo Mouse
27-03-2016, 20:25
Are there often voices and lights in your head? It'd certainly explain a few things... :p
Yes, a lot of the time. I like to think it makes me the person I am.
Mo Mouse
27-03-2016, 20:25
Are there often voices and lights in your head? It'd certainly explain a few things... :p
Yes, a lot of the time. I like to think it makes me the person I am.
tammyy2j
28-03-2016, 17:32
No way would Nancy sleep with Kush, she is being changed into an unlikable character for her exit, remember Nancy was suspicious of Kush and Stacey and warned Stacey off not to hurt Shabham
I think Kush and Stacey are expecting too much too soon in regard to baby Arthur, Martin isn't happy
tammyy2j
28-03-2016, 17:32
Oh Babe you would hurt anyone
I thought Ian was selling the restaurant.
I think Ian will end up employing Kyle as he is such a good cook. What possessed Billy to leave the kids with Phil? Nancy would never sleep around like that. I thought Kellie Bright was excellent again tonight. Babe is an evil old cow. I think she may turn against Abi if she finds out it was Lee she slept with. I think it is amusing if Lee does have the clap, he will then pass it on to Whitney. :)
ian has tried poaching him excuse the pun from from vic not sure for restaurant which is for sale or beale plaice chippers or cafe
ian has tried poaching him excuse the pun from from vic not sure for restaurant which is for sale or beale plaice chippers or cafe
It was definitely the restaurant that was for sale. Maybe it still is; Ian did say the potential job for Kyle was a temporary one.
flappinfanny
29-03-2016, 17:37
Kyle has made a good start on the square and I am looking forward to him settling in Walford with Stacey. I did actually feel a bit sorry for Kush. Tamwar has finally grown a pair.
I did have to smile about how easy it is to get a job in Walford. :D
Harry Reid was pretty ott I thought.
Harry Reid was pretty ott I thought.
Very OTT. I think he always overplays Ben's temper tantrums, though he does a decent job on the whole. It was good to have a reminder that he killed Heather in yesterday's episode.
Some cracking acting by Letitia tonight.
Some cracking acting by Letitia tonight.
Plus Steve McFadden and Linda Henry. It was an excellent episode. I was so glad Shirley pulled no punches with Ben over Heather's death, and made him see that Phil needs his support.
why was whitney so down on shirley talking about ben and heather
parkerman
29-03-2016, 20:51
Well that was a stroke of luck having a digger randomly parked on the Square with the key still in it.....
Well that was a stroke of luck having a digger randomly parked on the Square with the key still in it.....
Wasn't it just? :D
Phil was intent on destroying his businesses by hook or by crook but it wouldn't have been half as effective (or fun for us viewers) if he'd smashed a car into it. :p
flappinfanny
29-03-2016, 23:17
why was whitney so down on shirley talking about ben and heather I didn't get that either, seemed a bit random. I am surprised Shirley didn't put her in her box.
The Shirley/Ben scenes were very good. Nice mention of Heather tonight and a nice touch with the Cheese and Chips. Sharon was also electric tonight. If ever an actor deserved all the awards going it is Steve McFadden. Outstanding doesn't really do him justice. Mick is really annoying me now. A good duff duff. (Only spoilt by the spoilers for next week.) :(
tammyy2j
29-03-2016, 23:18
Ben should try and be a proper dad now to Lexi
whitney thinks she runs the pub and everyone in it, she needs to go for me
EE always cheers me up on a gloomy thursday night...:(
did sharon open ian's restaurant for herself and linda to have wine
flappinfanny
31-03-2016, 23:31
Positives:
Lovely scenes with Nancy and Tamwar, I loved that breakfast scene.
Excellent scenes with Sharon and Linda. Kellie Bright is playing a blinder.
They have really made Phil look ill. Steve McFadden is beyond brilliant.
Not many scenes with Harry Reid.
Negatives:
Carmel. What was that scene about?
Mick is seriously doing my head in. Get a grip man, get a grip.
Elaine is back. :sick: Love Maria Friedman, but Elaine in small doses please and give me some warning.
flappinfanny
31-03-2016, 23:32
Nessa Ken Barlow's ex bit of fluff has been getting about recently. :) :D
honestly want whitney gone, carters should kick her out
honestly want whitney gone, carters should kick her out
Yeah, she had no relavamce in that last scene with the social worker her lines came across as if the writers are strugling to keep her a part of the scene in the pub but she is so lost from the original Whitney they built its hard to slot her into any storyline.The actress has a brilliant voice, maybe its time to step on a stage rather than be a bit part on a soap like she seems to be at the moment.
Yeah, she had no relavamce in that last scene with the social worker her lines came across as if the writers are strugling to keep her a part of the scene in the pub but she is so lost from the original Whitney they built its hard to slot her into any storyline.The actress has a brilliant voice, maybe its time to step on a stage rather than be a bit part on a soap like she seems to be at the moment.
EastEnders bosses have insisted that Shona McGarty won't be quitting the show to launch a music career.
Speculation was rife today that the actress could move from soap to pop after she performed with Swedish indie singer Axel Jansson at an intimate gig in London this week.
The 24-year-old is thought to have belted out a new track called 'Easy as a Dream' with Jansson, but fans shouldn't get too carried away as EastEnders say that talk of a single release is wide of the mark.
An EastEnders spokesperson told Digital Spy: "Shona has made no secret of her passion for music, but EastEnders is her absolute priority.
"This was a one-off gig, she hasn't recorded a single, and this not going to affect her job in any way."
Reports had speculated that McGarty could even quit the BBC show to focus on music, but it's thought that she's in fact keen to stick around in her role as Whitney Dean.
The EastEnders rep added: "She is very much focused on her future at EastEnders."
McGarty has been part of EastEnders since 2008 and her current storyline sees Whitney caught up in a potentially doomed engagement with Lee Carter.
Fans have already seen the star's musical talents when she sang live on Children In Need in 2012. She also took part in a special show, Friday Night Is EastEnders Night, at the Hackney Empire last year.
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