Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII [Archive] - Page 7

lizann

22-03-2010, 10:26

I'm finding EE quite boring at the moment. I'm not interested in the gardening and Lucas panicking about Owen's body. That whole storyline is plain silly. So is Ronnie giving Louise to Social Services instead of Phil. The only entertaining thing is the feud between Ian and Carol - Ian at his snide, weasely best.

Me too i cant wait for Stacey's return

Dazzle

23-03-2010, 12:48

Why does Ronnie hate Roxy? Is it just because of their competitiveness over buying Booty?

Ben is 14 already!? It seems like only a short while ago that he was 10, and he still seems like 10 to me. His devotion to Shirley is sweet.

I enjoyed Zainab and Carol's mutiny over Ian's sexism - they make a good double-act.

How embarassing was Shirley's acceptance of Phil's non-proposal? :o

Siobhan

23-03-2010, 13:17

Why does Ronnie hate Roxy? Is it just because of their competitiveness over buying Booty?

Let me count the ways
1) Roxy accused Ronnie of killing her dad and didn't beleive her when she said she didn't
2) Roxy didn't believe that Archie raped Ronnie

does she need more reason for Ronnie to not like Roxy?

Dazzle

23-03-2010, 13:20

So they haven't been speaking since the live episode, then? I'd thought that they'd overcome those issues, but I'm obviously wrong. They're certainly good reasons why Ronnie would hate Roxy.

Siobhan

23-03-2010, 13:34

So they haven't been speaking since the live episode, then? I'd thought that they'd overcome those issues, but I'm obviously wrong. They're certainly good reasons why Ronnie would hate Roxy.

Well she moved out shortly after the live episode so yeah.. I assume since then.. but she was there with the rest at Bradley's funeral.. but they was tension between them

lizann

24-03-2010, 11:10

I liked the scenes with Max and Jean they seem to be bonding over their loss of Bradley i mean Jean always liked and got on well with Bradley

Dazzle

24-03-2010, 14:39

Yeah, they were lovely scenes with Max and Jean last night. It's the first time I've seen Max treat Jean with respect.

Dutchgirl

24-03-2010, 20:52

I'm liking Max now. He has come from far. I really disliked the character.

I do not know what Ian and Caroll have gone through in the past. But he is behaving childish.

Siobhan

25-03-2010, 09:13

Wonder what is up with Stacey... is she dead? or have they found her in a nasty state.. Love the scenes with Ian and Lucy... proper father/daughter bond...

LostVoodoo

25-03-2010, 09:41

I do not know what Ian and Caroll have gone through in the past. But he is behaving childish.

i can't remember what happened from them to hate each other so much either. what makes me laugh is that Bianca and Carol are so similar and that's why they wind each other up so much!

Dazzle

26-03-2010, 10:18

Jane's world will fall apart when she finds out that Lucy and Ian aborted the baby behind her back.

You'd have thought that Ian would be too concerned about Lucy to worry about who was on the stall.

Jack didn't seem to want to be seen with Chelsea - what was that all about?

I can't wait for Max and Stacey's two-hander tonight.

parkerman

26-03-2010, 10:24

You'd have thought that Ian would be too concerned about Lucy to worry about who was on the stall.

This is Ian we're talking about.:lol:

Siobhan

26-03-2010, 10:25

Yeah.. Jack didn't seem at all interested in Chelsea.. that was totally out of no where..

Max and Becca.. did he feel lonely or did he know she knew where Stacey was?? Maybe if she didn't go to her, he would have kept at her to find out..

Poor Jane, she really was trying to be a mum to Lucy when she "miscarried".. the truth will kill her especially when she finds out Ian had a big part to play in it.

Dazzle

26-03-2010, 10:37

Max and Becca.. did he feel lonely or did he know she knew where Stacey was?? Maybe if she didn't go to her, he would have kept at her to find out.

I'm not sure what Max's interest in Becca is, but yeah, he must have known there was a good possibility that she knew where Stacey is.

Siobhan

26-03-2010, 11:16

it just that he didn't seem interest at all and then he was... I reckon he had an idea she knew something...

Dazzle

26-03-2010, 11:21

I think you're probably right, Siobhan.

tammyy2j

26-03-2010, 14:03

Chelesa and Becca look very alike i'm confusing them alot lately :lol:

Siobhan

26-03-2010, 14:07

Chelesa and Becca look very alike i'm confusing them alot lately :lol:

I was the same last night... 2 brother, 2 women who look alike. I can see a foursome

Dazzle

27-03-2010, 12:02

I really enjoyed the two-hander with Max and Stacey.

I liked the explanation that Stacey didn't tell Bradley that she was the murderer, until the night he died, because she knew he would take the blame to stop her going to prison. It seemed like a reasonable excuse to kept him in the dark, which was the one thing that bugged me about Stacey being the murderer.

I liked the way that the upper-hand went back and forth between the two characters during the episode. It ended with them being supportive of each other, which was a nice change for EE.

Albert Square itself got the "duff duffs" this time.

tammyy2j

27-03-2010, 14:46

I was kinda disappointed in the 2 hander episode tbh i expected it to be better

So Stacey was squatting in her mother's old flat yet how come Jean never tried there to find her and how did Stacey survive with no money and clothes and she couldnt eat for three days and she is pregnant - that was great writing

parkerman

27-03-2010, 15:05

Yes. Also, did they explain why the flat had been left empty for so long?

Dazzle

27-03-2010, 16:40

I think it was reasonable that Jean wouldn't have thought of looking in her old flat. Even if she did think of it, she'd probably assume that it wasn't vacant after all this time. No, they didn't explain why it was still empty, which they should have, really.

Surely Stacey could have used the money from her own bank account. I doubt if the police would have gone to the trouble of getting court orders to monitor her accounts/credit cards.

I can perfectly understand her not eating for three days after the shock of seeing her dead husband, and her guilt about his death, even though pregnant. I suffered a similar shock whilst pregnant and it affected me in the same way.

CrazyLea

28-03-2010, 23:21

I loved the two-hander. Was sooo good! I seriously just love Jake Wood. He's amazing! It was so sad when he started breaking down on the square!! :(

sindydoll

29-03-2010, 09:04

well i didn't like this episode i fast forwarded but still only saw max and stacey so i turned it off and deleted it off my planner...how boring haveing just those two in didnt we see enough of them in the affair story line

Siobhan

29-03-2010, 09:20

I really enjoyed it.. I think Lacey and Jake are two fantastic actors and I was rooting for them both.. I didn't want Stacey to go to prison but I felt for Max not wanting his son to go to his grave with everyone thinking he was a murderer

I think Max would have shopped Stacey if she hadn't gotten out of the car that time at the police station... if she still kept saying NO he would have done something about it.. but it was well written, well done and I enjoyed it

Siobhan

29-03-2010, 09:22

tammyy2j

29-03-2010, 10:58

I thought when Stacey visit Jean before she lived in a different place than the one Max found Stacey in :hmm:

megan999

29-03-2010, 11:08

I thought when Stacey visit Jean before she lived in a different place than the one Max found Stacey in :hmm:

Yeah, I thought Jean lived in a house. I thought the two-hander episode was okay and well acted, but I thought I would enjoy it more. So a bit disappointed.

Siobhan

29-03-2010, 11:47

I thought when Stacey visit Jean before she lived in a different place than the one Max found Stacey in :hmm:

Jean did live in a house before she tried to kill herself under the train and was moved to that flat.

megan999

29-03-2010, 16:48

I watched Friday's episode again, and actually enjoyed it more second time around. I wonder if Stacey's secret really WILL remain a secret? IMO Jake and Lacey are the best actors in EE and have great chemistry. I went to the BBC EE website and watched their questions and answers video - that was good. I hope Jake and Lacey decide to stay in EE for a few more years yet! Looking forward to tonight's episode - Gillian and Lacey are so good as mother & daughter.

Dazzle

29-03-2010, 16:56

I noticed their great chemistry too.

Dazzle

30-03-2010, 11:46

Siobhan

30-03-2010, 11:56

Billy giving Carol a melon on it's use-by day to say sorry :rotfl:

The gang storyline would be a lot better if they'd cast people who could act. It was so obviously Billie behind that mask that Phil etc would have recognised him straight away really.

That bit with Billy was so funny.. loved Jack and Max taking the piss.. poor Billy but fair play to him for stopping the other Billie

Yeah that gang could have acted alot better.. can't stand Kylie... arggh!
Poor Jean.. my heart went out to her but really nice for Stacey to be back to normal ish by the end of it

Dazzle

30-03-2010, 11:58

Oh yeah, I forgot about that - Stacey going to comfort her mum was really nice. A rare heartwarming moment for EE.

Siobhan

30-03-2010, 12:00

Gillian Wright is one of the best underrate actors they have on EE.. she plays Jean so well and deserves awards. Her trip to the morgue last week had me in tears...

tammyy2j

30-03-2010, 14:24

Did Chelesa stay waiting in the restaurant for Jack?

I agree the gang and Billie are terrible as they cant act if i was Max or Jack i would have knocked Billie out. Putting Whitney with Billie is also runing her character imo.

Ian manipulating Lucy not to tell Jane the heartless git :angry: i cant wait for Jane to found out and leave him

Dazzle

30-03-2010, 14:44

Did Chelesa stay waiting in the restaurant for Jack?

I don't think it showed Chelsea after the waiter handed her the bill, but I think it's safe to assume she left after that.

Ian manipulating Lucy not to tell Jane the heartless git

I would sympathise with Ian if he was doing it to save Jane from being devastated, but he's probably doing it to save himself from Jane, knowing Ian :angry:

sindydoll

30-03-2010, 15:51

Siobhan

30-03-2010, 15:55

i think ian is been damn right evil the way he is going about with lucys abortion the girl is suffering the depretion you get when u have had an abortion and he is wanting to play his games with jane! he should be putting his daughter emotions first

I have a feeling now that Leon knows, it will probably be him to say something to Jane... not meaning to but asking a question like "Lucy said she had an abortion, was she even pregnant blah blah "

JustJodi

31-03-2010, 10:43

I have a feeling now that Leon knows, it will probably be him to say something to Jane... not meaning to but asking a question like "Lucy said she had an abortion, was she even pregnant blah blah "

I was thinking the exact same thing U were Shiv...I sure hope that once Jane finds out that Ian is behind all this, she leaves him and moves in with the Massoods LOL

lizann

31-03-2010, 10:56

I have a feeling now that Leon knows, it will probably be him to say something to Jane... not meaning to but asking a question like "Lucy said she had an abortion, was she even pregnant blah blah "

I hope so poor Jane she will be devasted by their betrayal after all it because of Ian and his children Lucy and Steven that Jane cant have kids she deserves so much better

JustJodi

31-03-2010, 11:07

I hope so poor Jane she will be devasted by their betrayal after all it because of Ian and his children Lucy and Steven that Jane cant have kids she deserves so much better

Just how many times can she FORGIVE HIM and give HIM ANOTHER CHANCE,, no woman in her right mind would put up with that BALONEY

Dazzle

31-03-2010, 13:07

Poor Billy being kicked out of his home (again) :angry:

Roxy to Janine: "You could do with a makeover - the Myra Hindley look is out of fashion." :rotfl:

What a bitch Becca is telling Stacey that Max took advantage of her! :angry:

I wonder who Ronnie'll lose her money to: Danny or Ryan and Janine? I think it's quite likely someone'll manage to con it out of her, though I hope they don't.

LostVoodoo

31-03-2010, 17:11

I wonder who Ronnie'll lose her money to: Danny or Ryan and Janine? I think it's quite likely someone'll manage to con it out of her, though I hope they don't.

i hope they don't too. although i did just think to myself, 'oh at least amy has that money in trust' as if she's a real baby! :lol:

Dutchgirl

31-03-2010, 20:14

He is such an dumb***.
I wonder where Christian is in all this? He is a good friend to Lucy and Jane's brother.

lizann

01-04-2010, 20:30

Oh god what a funny episode of EE :lol:it was so bad with awful acting that all i could do was laugh

It looking like Ryan is Stacey's baby daddy i hope it comes out soon even though i like him with Janine

Timalay

01-04-2010, 21:42

Still really hating Adam (smug git). Just get rid of him EE.

Also credit to the bouncer tonight.

Dutchgirl

01-04-2010, 22:02

Still really hating Adam (smug git). Just get rid of him EE.

Also credit to the bouncer tonight.

Libby wake up. He is such a twitt. She keeps finding excuses for him. Why????

I thought the same about the bouncer.
When I worked in a club they weren't that clever at all. Knuckles without brains we used to call them.

tammyy2j

01-04-2010, 23:26

I wish Kylie had taken a lot more out with the gun i.e. Billie, Chelesa, Libby, Danny, Roxy, Abi, Adam i could on

Timalay

02-04-2010, 09:20

I wish Kylie had taken a lot more out with the gun i.e. Billie, Chelesa, Libby, Danny, Roxy, Abi i could on

Adam? :D

Dutchgirl

02-04-2010, 10:48

Adam? :D

Can we rewind and and ad that one???

lizann

02-04-2010, 20:07

Pat's back where has she been along in hiding

*-Rooney-*

02-04-2010, 23:37

cant believe thats a year since danielle died

parkerman

03-04-2010, 09:39

Pat's back where has she been along in hiding

That's exactly what I said to my wife as soon as she appeared!

Dazzle

04-04-2010, 17:03

So just as we all suspected, Danny and Glenda are going to try and take Roxy's money. Only Ronnie can save her, I think.

lizann

05-04-2010, 20:29

Yay Billie is leaving for the army great news hope he leaves for good

Ben and Louise's war is going to get messy with chocolate involved :lol:

Peggy and Phil should be more grateful to Shirley since she helped get Louise for Phil

Siobhan

06-04-2010, 09:52

Ben and Louise's war is going to get messy with chocolate involved :lol:

Peggy and Phil should be more grateful to Shirley since she helped get Louise for Phil

Surely the microwave should have exploded or caught fire as Ben left the tin foil on the egg.. I seen brainaic science abuse!

Yeah they should be more grateful.. after all it was her that got Louise to come.. and Louise trying to get rid of Shirley too

Katy

06-04-2010, 12:59

thats what i thought, i put a pot noodle in the microwave with foil and it was very messy!

tammyy2j

06-04-2010, 13:06

I wonder is Danny really Glenda's son or maybe her toyboy :p and he will fall for Peggy

Dazzle

06-04-2010, 15:49

I wonder is Danny really Glenda's son or maybe her toyboy

I was wondering that too, but the way she spoke to him in yesterday's episode, saying something like "you've always been a good boy" sounded like she was talking to her son. In a way, the story would be better if he wasn't really Ronnie and Roxy's brother.

Siobhan

09-04-2010, 09:01

Best quote ever by Zainab last night "it is like my nightmare is having a nightmare".. I laughed so much :lol:

What did Carol think happens in a war.. they all play nicely.. course Billie would have to learn to shoot...

tammyy2j

09-04-2010, 11:58

I hate the way Whitney has become a love sick puggy chasing after Billie now

Danny annoys me as does Billie

Dazzle

09-04-2010, 14:52

What did Carol think happens in a war.. they all play nicely.. course Billie would have to learn to shoot...

Carol's behaviour was appalling in the recruitment office. No wonder Billie wants to get away from her controlling behaviour.

Roxy needs Ronnie to rescue her from Danny, but he's managed to drive a big wedge between them. I hope they wake up before he takes Roxy's money.

Siobhan

09-04-2010, 14:55

He can take her money now whenever he wants... he has her account, password and security question.. all he has to do it log in and transfer.. disappear like he did before they can't trace him..

Dazzle

09-04-2010, 15:04

You're right - poor, stupid Roxy...

Siobhan

09-04-2010, 15:10

You're right - poor, stupid Roxy...

to quote lovely Jodi on this site "she is as dumb as a box of rocks"... she is too trusting.. Ok, she will have a very large chunk taken out of her account but the pub is hers, the house and now the salon.. how is he going to get all that?

Dazzle

09-04-2010, 15:30

Yeah, I don't think this story is anywhere near over.

Dutchgirl

09-04-2010, 18:41

to quote lovely Jodi on this site "she is as dumb as a box of rocks"... she is too trusting.. Ok, she will have a very large chunk taken out of her account but the pub is hers, the house and now the salon.. how is he going to get all that?

He doesn't need to get hold of them. She has millions in the bank. Compared to that the pub and the salon are peanuts.

StarsOfCCTV

09-04-2010, 20:52

I thought for a minute that Danny might be having second thoughts about conning Roxy but no..

lizann

10-04-2010, 00:15

So Pat who had a serious operation is working her feet off in the Vic surprised she didnt go to hospital also

I wish Christian had smacked Zainab she can be a horrid biatch

BTW there needs to be way more topless scenes of Christian

Dazzle

10-04-2010, 16:32

I thought for a minute that Danny might be having second thoughts about conning Roxy but no..

That's what I was thinking too. I'm quite enjoying this storyline now, but I can't believe Roxy trusts Danny so much after knowing him for such a short time.

Zainab was really unpleasant to Christian - she's pushed him into pursuing Syed again.

parkerman

10-04-2010, 17:12

BTW there needs to be way more topless scenes of Christian
Personally, I wouldn't mind a few more of Amira.... :D

tammyy2j

10-04-2010, 19:40

When did Denise and Heather becomes friends again? Did i miss something?

I hate Zainab sometimes

Ruffed_lemur

10-04-2010, 19:50

DaVeyWaVey

11-04-2010, 15:17

I'm still enjoying EastEnders, though it has slowed down a bit since the live episode which is to be expected. Carol steals every scene she's in - Lindsey Coulson is so so good. Sometimes, it's easy to forget she's acting. She is so natural in her role. What a talent.

I'm glad the Christian/Syed storyline is picking up momentum again.

I am finding this Danny/Glenda storyline woeful though.

megan999

11-04-2010, 16:29

Personally, I can't wait for the Christian/Syed storyline to be over. That will put Zainab in her place!!! I like the Danny and Glenda storyline. But Danny's voice gets on my nerves. Billie and Carol are getting on my nerves also. I don't think that Janine and Ryan have any chemistry. IMO Janine and Archie had chemistry.

Timalay

12-04-2010, 21:10

Brilliant acting by Scott Maslen in tonights episode.

StarsOfCCTV

12-04-2010, 22:30

^ Exactly the words I was going to use! :lol:

But yeah he was brilliant. The whole scene was so sad.

moonstorm

13-04-2010, 08:24

I like Zainab, she is trying to protect her son in the only way she knows.

Siobhan

13-04-2010, 09:25

Brilliant acting by Scott Maslen in tonights episode.

Totally agree.. he was great last night.. wonder how this is all going to pan out

I love Zainab but she can't make her son straight no matter how hard she tries.. the body paint with herself and Mas was so funny... in contrast to her son and daughter in law, you can see Zainab and Mas are clearly in love but Sayid doesn't love Amira

tammyy2j

13-04-2010, 12:17

Brilliant acting by Scott Maslen in tonights episode.

+ 1 the scenes with him and Jim were heartbreaking

Dazzle

13-04-2010, 16:34

Brilliant acting by Scott Maslen in tonights episode.

Exactly what I was thinking, like everyone else on here :D

Poor Amira - she thinks it's her fault that Syed isn't attracted to her. You're right Siobhan that the scenes with Masood, Zainab and the chocolate body paint showed how a couple who are in love behaves - in comparison to Syed's coldness to Amira.

Siobhan

13-04-2010, 16:39

Syed can't be someone he is not. He obviously tried the hetrosexual thing and didn't want to do it anymore.. he has to be honest with himself, Christian and Amira..

Dazzle

13-04-2010, 16:43

I don't blame Syed for the situation because he is under enourmous pressure - it's horrible for everyone involved. I feel the most sorry for Amira though because she thinks it's her fault that her husband can keep his hands off her. I think things will come to a head very soon...

Siobhan

13-04-2010, 16:45

I feel for Amira but it was Zainab's making. Syed was willing to leave his wedding to Amira for Christian but Zainab made him go ahead with it. Amira would have been better off dumped at the altar and she could try to move on instead of feeling like she does now

Dazzle

13-04-2010, 16:50

Agreed - the marriage should never have gone ahead.

Siobhan

13-04-2010, 16:55

for me I think feeling rejected by the man I love every day and feeling like it was my fault is far worse than be left by a man I love... It would hurt but I think feeling everyday like you are worthless, unloved and rejected would be horrible

lizann

13-04-2010, 20:56

kayuqtuq

13-04-2010, 22:24

Who owned the ring Max had?

It was the engagement ring Jack gave to Ronnie, she gave it back to him when she broke off the engagement.

Dutchgirl

14-04-2010, 21:06

I cant wait for Jack to dump Chelesa she is doing my head in going on about being his girlfriend

Who owned the ring Max had?

Poor Ben it looks like Phil will never accept him dancing the little Benny Elliot

Here some trainers for your footie. My heart broke for the little guy. If my boy want's to do ballet I would be happy for him. (and I hate soccer) Ballet needs male dancers as well as girls.

Siobhan

15-04-2010, 09:23

Here some trainers for your footie. My heart broke for the little guy. If my boy want's to do ballet I would be happy for him. (and I hate soccer) Ballet needs male dancers as well as girls.

Totally agree with you.. Ben is not interested in Football, he wants to dance, let him dance. I always tell my kids they can be what they want to be when they are older (obviously not a thief or murderer) as long as they are happy... whether it means my son wants to do ballet or knitting, so be it

Dazzle

16-04-2010, 14:54

Although I don't agree with graffiti, I don't blame Lucy for wanting to alleviate Christian's misery over Syed. It certainly produced results :eek:

Siobhan

16-04-2010, 15:25

Although I don't agree with graffiti, I don't blame Lucy for wanting to alleviate Christian's misery over Syed. It certainly produced results :eek:

At least Christian knows who is getting hurt in all this unlike Syed.. he know Amira is going to be devastated.. Christian has back off for this reason, letting Syed come to him.. Syed is only fooling himself and should just admit who he is

Dazzle

16-04-2010, 15:33

I'm hoping that it's Syed who tells Amira, after realising how much he's hurting her.

Siobhan

16-04-2010, 15:42

I'm hoping that it's Syed who tells Amira, after realising how much he's hurting her.

I don't think he will, he is too chicken.. either it will be Lucy or she will over hear (just my opinion)

tammyy2j

16-04-2010, 21:52

When did Jack dump Chelesa? Was that not shown or i missed it maybe?

Perdita

16-04-2010, 22:06

That was shown about 3 weeks ago or so, looked a bit of random script writing to me, to be honest

sean slater

16-04-2010, 23:24

Really good episode tonight! I dont think Masood saw that it was Syed Christian was kissing, I think he was just thrown seeing Christian embracing somebody. But it was a really good moment! I'm really liking Fatboy, I want to see him with a girl, cos I think it would be cool. I think a lot of girls would be attracted to him, cos he's got a great sense of humour and he's good looking. Love him! Phil's family is starting to evolve im liking it. The Shirley, ben, louise, phil scenario. Ben and Louise are at loggerheads at the moment a bit cos there both vying for thier dads effections, but I think they'll bond soon and become a force to be reckoned with.

parkerman

17-04-2010, 10:34

I was just wondering if Libby knows where Oxford actually is. Has she ever been there?

sindydoll

17-04-2010, 11:06

what an ending!! i wonder if he knew it was them! i bet he didnt and thats why he said sorry and walked out! i bet he hasnt got a clue

Dazzle

17-04-2010, 15:46

If Masood doesn't know it was Syed then he'll soon work it out, I think. It was Syed's flat after all, and he'd done a disappearing act. Also, Christian would have taken someone else back to his own flat.

How unproffessional was that doctor stalking Ronnie?

megan999

17-04-2010, 16:47

[QUOTE=Dazzle;714020
How unproffessional was that doctor stalking Ronnie?[/QUOTE]Yes, but he IS dishy! :D I agree with Sean Slater that Fatboy is a laugh. Him and Zsa Zsa and Leon give good comedy moments. I cracked up when he got 2 black eyes and then a date with Tamwar!!

Dazzle

17-04-2010, 18:54

I'm enjoying the storyline with Zsa Zsa, Fatboy and Leon too. A good bit of light entertainment.

sindydoll

18-04-2010, 14:13

lizann

19-04-2010, 11:05

When did Jack dump Chelesa? Was that not shown or i missed it maybe?

It wasnt shown on screen. I'm just glad she got dumped.

I like Lucy (even though she is a brat) relationship with Uncle Christian

Perdita

19-04-2010, 13:11

It wasnt shown on screen. I'm just glad she got dumped.

I like Lucy (even though she is a brat) relationship with Uncle Christian

I thought Jack told Chelsea in hospital that their relationship would never work? :hmm:

lizann

19-04-2010, 14:02

I thought Jack told Chelsea in hospital that their relationship would never work? :hmm:

Oh i must have missed that i hate Chelesa and I'm so glad she go the heave ho the stupid ho saying she was girlfriend to everyone after a cheap fumble in the toilets

tammyy2j

19-04-2010, 20:13

I love Peggy and Pat fights :lol:

More great acting from Scott Maslen tonight

Perdita

19-04-2010, 20:15

I love it when Peggy and Pat have a drink, so funny :lol:

sean slater

20-04-2010, 00:53

I wish I hadnt read the spoilers about Masood now. It would have been a classic episode if I hadnt have known that he knew about Syed and Christian. Very subtly done! really like Masoods character.
All the characters were drinking scotch 2nite, Christian, Pat, Peggy. I cant remember what Ronnie was drinking, but there certainly all bit drinkers! lol. They've all got a lot going on though havent they.
This Ben thing is annoying me a bit. I dont get girls bullying boy,. I mean they must live sad lives. Girls are supposed to be sensible people.

Perdita

20-04-2010, 01:23

I am sure there are sensible boys too :)

Siobhan

20-04-2010, 10:01

This Ben thing is annoying me a bit. I dont get girls bullying boy,. I mean they must live sad lives. Girls are supposed to be sensible people.

Sometimes girls make the worse bullies and it is harder on the boys if they are been bullied by girls cause they are suppose to be the stronger sex...

moonstorm

20-04-2010, 11:32

I think that is why they have shown Ben to be bullied by girls to highlight the problem. Girls can be very mean too.

Perdita

20-04-2010, 11:40

I know, I was bullied at school by girls, not boys, something I don't understand to this day :(

tammyy2j

20-04-2010, 11:54

I think Ben comes across as a little nancy boy seeing as he likes musicals and dancing so that maybe why he is picked on - i'm saying bullying is right or acceptable thats just how i see it ok :angel:

Dazzle

20-04-2010, 17:04

I think Ben comes across as a little nancy boy...

That's an unpleasant way of putting it. I'd say he's sensitive and, yes, that's why he's being picked on as bullies target the vulnerable. Poor Ben :(

Max was very harsh on Jack earlier in the episode. I'm glad he made up for it later.

I'm not enjoying Masood's game-playing - I didn't think he was like that.

parkerman

20-04-2010, 17:10

Max was very harsh on Jack earlier in the episode. I'm glad he made up for it later.

I think Max was being cruel to be kind as they say

tammyy2j

20-04-2010, 19:31

That's an unpleasant way of putting it. I'd say he's sensitive and, yes, that's why he's being picked on as bullies target the vulnerable. Poor Ben :(

Max was very harsh on Jack earlier in the episode. I'm glad he made up for it later.

I'm not enjoying Masood's game-playing - I didn't think he was like that.

Sorry if i offend but the way he acts is why Ben is a target for bullies i do feel sorry for him and now his dad is showing Louise all his attention

So Mas knows it was Syed with Christian

Dazzle

20-04-2010, 20:11

Sorry if i offend but the way he acts is why Ben is a target for bullies i do feel sorry for him and now his dad is showing Louise all his attention

I wonder if Shirley's warning to the bully's dad will work?

It's nice to see Max and Jack being close - I laughed out loud when Jack hit the doctor.

I'm glad Masood doesn't believe you choose to be gay. Isn't it terrible that Syed wouldn't be allowed to attend his father's funeral if he comes out?

How annoying was Amira in this episode going on about mood lighting and scatter cushions?

Perdita

20-04-2010, 20:24

Amira is trying to make herself attractive to her husband, she is pulling out all the stops as most newly weds would, I guess. Not so nice to watch I guess but realistic for a change in a soap

sean slater

20-04-2010, 22:22

I'm glad Masood doesn't believe you choose to be gay. Isn't it terrible that Syed wouldn't be allowed to attend his father's funeral if he comes out?

How annoying was Amira in this episode going on about mood lighting and scatter cushions?

Yeh explosive episode. Really enjoyed it! Im very confused about the muslim religion. You can be a muslim but then you can disagree with many parts of it. Like Amira is best friends with Christian and they chat about his boyfriends and stuff, which im assuming most muslim people wouldnt. Then there's Masood who has been quite friendly towards Christian until this Syed stuff has come out. It only really seems to be Zanaib that has huge issues with being gay. It's really crazy. Its like the catholic religion. It says in the bible that only men and women should be together cos it makes children, and nothing ever moves on from that. Like it says in Koran (not sure of spelling) and you have to abide by it. Its nothing like the British Constitution, which changes through time to adapt to cater for people's beliefs and feelings.
It is everybodys right to believe what they want to believe but I do think people should be a bit more open minded to change.

I dont understand how a book that was written thousands of years ago can have any bearing on the here and now! I suppose thats why I couldnt be religious.

parkerman

21-04-2010, 06:35

Its like the catholic religion. It says in the bible that only men and women should be together

No comment!

Siobhan

21-04-2010, 09:35

It's nice to see Max and Jack being close - I laughed out loud when Jack hit the doctor.

I'm glad Masood doesn't believe you choose to be gay. Isn't it terrible that Syed wouldn't be allowed to attend his father's funeral if he comes out?

I just laughing at Max telling Jack to make a fist, then he told him about Ronnie.. then told him he used his good hand.. :lol:

I was glad too about Mas.. he know it is not something you choose to be but religion states otherwise.. Poor Mas.. what will he do? h

Dazzle

21-04-2010, 17:12

Poor Mas.. what will he do?

It's going to be even worse for him when he finds out that Zainab knew before Syed's marriage and forced him to go through with it. Will Masood and Zainab's marriage survive?

Siobhan

21-04-2010, 17:14

Ruffed_lemur

21-04-2010, 18:16

Amira is trying to make herself attractive to her husband, she is pulling out all the stops as most newly weds would, I guess. Not so nice to watch I guess but realistic for a change in a soap

I think she is going OTT though. Still showing some insecurity to me.

Ruffed_lemur

21-04-2010, 18:18

I'm glad Masood doesn't believe you choose to be gay.

I was really pleased about that too.

sean slater

22-04-2010, 00:50

parkerman

22-04-2010, 07:49

Yeh definitely. But how can you be Muslim and not believe what is said in the Koran. Though I dont actually know what it says in the Koran, maybe it would be helpful if somebody could find out cos I dont have a clue. Obviously something about not being allowed to be gay. Or is it just the absence of homosexuals in the koran that leads them to believe its unacceptable? Like certain Christians believe homosexuality isnt cos the bible is all based on Mary and Joseph. Is it something like that with the Muslim religion as well?

The bible actually explicitly forbids homosexuality. It's not just about Mary and Joseph.

Siobhan

22-04-2010, 09:23

Yeh definitely. But how can you be Muslim and not believe what is said in the Koran. Though I dont actually know what it says in the Koran, maybe it would be helpful if somebody could find out cos I dont have a clue. Obviously something about not being allowed to be gay. Or is it just the absence of homosexuals in the koran that leads them to believe its unacceptable? Like certain Christians believe homosexuality isnt cos the bible is all based on Mary and Joseph. Is it something like that with the Muslim religion as well?

SS, like most religions SEX is suppose to be for procreation only and not to be enjoyed hence the reason they are against homosexuality as it doesn't lead to creation of a life. It has nothing to do with Mary or Joseph (which by the way is a tiny part of the bible) but with God claiming that the act of sex should lead ONLY to a creation of a child

JustJodi

22-04-2010, 11:02

Yeah, that is going to be a smack in the mouth for him... but would it have been any different then..mmm I would say yes cause he was worried about hurting Zainab again with stories about Syed... my heart went out to him last night

I felt so bad for Masood.. I also wonder how he is going to react when he finds out that Zainab knew about this before he did

*-Rooney-*

22-04-2010, 11:30

Siobhan

22-04-2010, 11:38

It s not just that zainab knew before he did, buts he forced syed to go along with the whole wedding sham. that will devastate massod since hes shocked that syed has made a mockery of amira and of the whole wedding

He will probably blame Syed for making a mockery of the wedding and his religion but wait til he finds out that Syed was going to leave Amira and it was Zainab who told him to go ahead...

Perdita

22-04-2010, 11:52

He might suspect by now that Zainab knows more than she has been letting on, by her behaviour at the wedding and since, whenever she was in Christian's company :hmm:

JustJodi

22-04-2010, 12:22

wait a min gang,,, we are overlooking something now to add to the "drama" Amira is PREGGERS................so now what ????

Siobhan

22-04-2010, 12:54

wait a min gang,,, we are overlooking something now to add to the "drama" Amira is PREGGERS................so now what ????

Zainab probably make him stay for the child.. which I again I would think is wrong thing to do

Dazzle

22-04-2010, 15:11

But how can you be Muslim and not believe what is said in the Koran.

Well, there are also plenty of Christians who don't believe everything in the Bible. As is said above, the Bible forbids homosexuality, but many Christians don't disapprove of people being gay - they acknowledge that the Bible was written in very different times and that some of it isn't relevant to today - for instance, I believe the Bible also condones slavery.

I'm no expert though.

parkerman

22-04-2010, 15:32

Dazzle

22-04-2010, 15:38

Well, you could say that the Bible is the word of God translated by humans, which is why not everything is to be taken at face value.

I have to say that I'm not a believer though.

Siobhan

22-04-2010, 15:44

You're right, Dazzle, the bible does condone slavery.

It is usually the get out of good Christians that, as you say, they say it was written in very different times and that the laws of the Old Testament were somehow overruled by Jesus. But in the case of homosexuality, the New Testament also forbids it - see Paul's epistles to the Romans (1 26-27) and the Corinthians 1 6:9-11.

But in any case isn't the bible supposed to be the word of God. If he could get that wrong, what else has he got wrong?

In many cases the new testement overrides the old.. for example in Old it is a cheek for a cheek but in the new it is turn the other cheek... The bible can be interperted by those reading it.. same with the Koran.. each finds different meaning to it...

sean slater

22-04-2010, 16:39

Yes I suppose its up to interpretation. I cant wait to watch it tonight! exciting!! I really want Chirstian and Syed to stay together and give their relationship a chance, they obviously love each other. Syed doesnt want to have to live a lie for the rest of his life, and if its not Christian he ends up with, he'll soon develop feelings for another man. Zainab just cant accept that. Its almost as if she thinks Christian is poisoning her sons mind.

Siobhan

22-04-2010, 16:53

Sad to say that is the way a lot of people think.. they think you can catch been gay by been around a gay person.. The amount of times I have heard Dads saying they would kick their sons out if they were gay.. As long as my kids were happy I couldn't give a crap about their sexuality

sean slater

22-04-2010, 18:43

I think thats men with their boys for you. Were experiencing it with Phil and Ben at the moment. Most men think there sons should be macho, be into football and stuff, an interest in ballet is often deemed weird lol. I think most fathers get over it in time, the ideal that they have in their heads. Expectant parents often say, I want a boy to dress in blue and take to the football, its a stereotype. Parents want their children to survive in the real world and being gay is a hard thing to deal with. My mum said to me when I was thinking about my sexuality, well if your not sure I think its best to be straight, and she is the most understanding person, she has no problem with homosexuality whatsoever, but you want the best for your children. You want them to be happy, but being straight is the ideal.

sean slater

22-04-2010, 21:37

Wow! good episode. The Masoods, Chelsea, Jack and Ronnie all sorts going on.

danielle741

23-04-2010, 10:00

is it just me or how did chelsea know whose test was whose??

Siobhan

23-04-2010, 10:15

is it just me or how did chelsea know whose test was whose??

I said the same last night.. she put the two of them in the same pocket and passed one to Amira.. but was that hers???

lizann

23-04-2010, 12:15

is it just me or how did chelsea know whose test was whose??

I thought the same I really hope Chelesa isnt pregnant

Zainab should have told Mas the truth that she knew all along

Is Christian Syed first gay experience or was he with men before he came to Walford? Was Syed and Amira suppose to be a virgins when they married?

Old question now but was it ever revealed who set Janine up for Archie's murder?

LostVoodoo

23-04-2010, 12:45

Is Christian Syed first gay experience or was he with men before he came to Walford? Was Syed and Amira suppose to be a virgins when they married?

i think Amira was supposed to be a virgin, plus she stil seems quite naive about sex etc even though she is married now. Not sure about Syed, plus i'm sure he said to Christian at some point that he had felt that way about men before, not sure if he'd done anything though.

as far Amira's pregnancy, would you really go and announce to your husband's family that you were pregnant when you hadn't even taken a test? surely that's the first thing they would ask?

lizann

23-04-2010, 13:47

I think Syed did all the chasing after Christian at the start even kissing him first yes?????

Dazzle

23-04-2010, 16:18

Is Christian Syed first gay experience or was he with men before he came to Walford?

I'm sure that Syed said to Christian early on that he'd had several one night stands with men. He definitely hadn't been with a woman before Amira. I'm so glad that he seems to have finally made up his mind to come out.

Loved the scene when Ronnie said to Jack that she'd say yes if he asked her to marry him. I had tears in my eyes :crying:

I thought like everyone else here that the pregnancy tests got mixed up.

Perdita

23-04-2010, 16:23

Must have got the tests mixed up, the way Chelsea just stuffed them into the pocket and rather predictable as a storyline :lol:

Siobhan

23-04-2010, 16:58

Must have got the tests mixed up, the way Chelsea just stuffed them into the pocket and rather predictable as a storyline :lol:

I am puzzled by this cause she seemed to know automatically which one was Amira's.. anyone would be like, not sure which one is which and take a second test... unless she has two pockets on her smock

Perdita

23-04-2010, 17:12

Because they were excited to find out, then scared because of Denise coming in, I guess she never thought

Siobhan

23-04-2010, 17:17

Because they were excited to find out, then scared because of Denise coming in, I guess she never thought

if it had been me, I would have asked Amria to swap :lol:

Katy

23-04-2010, 22:09

I enjoyed tonights episode, i think that Nina Wadia is brilliant, haha at the fact that they had all sneaked alcohol into the party, that was brilliant.

sean slater

23-04-2010, 22:12

Yeh kinda weird that they would have had both the pregnancy tests being stuffed into the smock. Why bother doing that if there wasnt going to be some sort of mix up? Im not sure though cos Amiras leaving in like 2 days so whether they have time to do anything like that, its doubtful. Reallly enjoyed tonights episode. Everyone was involved, Jane finally made a reappearance. Where has she been while everythings been going on with Christian lately? Completely randoms turned up 2nite, people we havent seen for agesss. Syed is really fickle, he makes up his mind to come clean about him and Christian and then all of sudden again going for Amira. Its obvious that he was heading back to Christian though as soon as Amira announced she wasnt pregnant. Im loving the way Masood is handling things. He remains so calm, even though he was falling apart before within the mosque. But he puts on a brave face for his family and tries to do his best to look after his family. I really like him.

tammyy2j

23-04-2010, 23:04

I wish Syed had told Mas that Zainah knew all along

The actors playing Syed and Christian are doing a great job

So did Christian let the writing on the wall be seen by Amira?

StarsOfCCTV

23-04-2010, 23:43

It looked like it to me.

That was a really good episode - especially the ending!!

parkerman

24-04-2010, 07:48

Nice to see Libby back from Oxford....:wall:

Dazzle

24-04-2010, 15:08

So did Christian let the writing on the wall be seen by Amira?

Definitely. The last shot of Christian in the flat was him upset (after Syed had told him he was going to be a father and husband), and looking at the wall that had the graffiti underneath the wallpaper. Then next time we see the wall, the graffiti had been revealed.

It was a brilliant, intense episode last night. Great acting all round.

Dutchgirl

24-04-2010, 16:24

They were all brilliant. Nina Wadia is so good and of course Marc Elliot.
Nice to see Jane finally. I wondered where she was in all of this.

Please get rid of that screeching Fatboy. He is the most annoying figure in a long long time. Even more so than Chelsea! So you can imagine how much I want to see him go!!

sean slater

24-04-2010, 21:31

I like Fatboy, I think he's funny. Brings a lightheartedness to the show.
I really wish Chelsea wasnt pregnant. Its such a pointless storyline. It would have been much better if it was Amira.

JustJodi

25-04-2010, 01:24

I like Fatboy, I think he's funny. Brings a lightheartedness to the show.
I really wish Chelsea wasnt pregnant. Its such a pointless storyline. It would have been much better if it was Amira.

wait a minute,, we do not know for a FACT that Chelsea is preggo,, it still may be Amira that is pregnant, remember when Denise came in Chels stuffed the EPT into her smock,, so the tests could have gotten mixed up ?????

JustJodi

25-04-2010, 01:27

Jane looked like she got a bit of sun,,at least Ian was not lurking around in the back ground..
I agree that Nina did a brilliant job !!!!!!!! I am just waiting till Massood finds out that Zanib knew about Syed all along.

Dutchgirl

25-04-2010, 09:33

Abigail

26-04-2010, 21:21

Rubbish acting from Preeya this evening.

Perdita

26-04-2010, 21:43

Yep, Abigail, totally agree with you

JustJodi

26-04-2010, 22:30

at least she left in a Mercedes not a black mini cab...I knew Amira was preggers not Chelsa..btw when did Chelsa and Amira become such good "girl friends" must have fell asleep when they "bonded" I thought the acting in general was pretty good, ( ok Preeya had alot more to say this time and she had to "act") My partner said that this was probably the best episode he had seen in a while..he said Zanib is going to really GET IT soon when Mass finds out shes been aware of Syed's behavior since before he got married.. I have a feeling we are in for some really good stuff the next few weeks..

tammyy2j

26-04-2010, 22:32

Tamwar and Libby were the supportive siblings tonight

I wished Syed would have told everyone that his mother Zainab forced him to marry Amira. I cant wait for her to get caught out.

Great acting from Syed and Christian tonight.

Abigail

26-04-2010, 22:48

It was a brilliant episode and I could really feel the emotion at the end when the Masoods were talking about shame. The acting was so realistic.

I didn't get any emotion from Amira at all, I found her over dramatised, wooden and empty, especially when Christian told her Syed is gay. She left me out in the cold and I couldn't empathise with her at all.

sean slater

26-04-2010, 23:02

That episode was amazing!! i loved every minute of it. I loved the way they did that whole Chelsea/Amira pregnancy thing. I didnt think they could do it cos Amira was leaving tonight, but they managed to pull it off in a very realistic way. Amira knew that she now had something that Syed didnt, a family.
I dont think the Masoods will turn their back on Syed, I think Masood is quite compassionate. Zanaib is different, but we'll see. I loved how Tamwar said that Syed was brave for what he did. I wasnt sure how his reaction would be, but I know those two have always been very close. It was a very sweet moment.
I didnt like the way Christian behaved tonight. I know its been building up for a long time, Syed has treated him badly but it wasnt fair to probe Amira in that way. He should of backed off so they could deal with things properly.

elle101

27-04-2010, 00:29

Amazing episode, wow Amira I just felt so sorry for her. She really made me feel for her, she believed so much in her husband and marriage, now she will have her baby far far away from Syed. Feel so sorry for the whole family, Christian did the wrong thing he handled it all wrong and now he doesn't have Syed/Amira as a friend and most probably a job @ Masala Queen.

parkerman

27-04-2010, 09:02

Tamwar is my hero. He was very brave last night and the only one to show some compassion and sense.

Siobhan

27-04-2010, 09:19

Very emotional episode last night and great acting all round.. it was totally believable and I felt for each character... Agree with Parkerman.. Tamwar was my hero too.. to stand up and say that Syed was brave was brilliant.. Hope himself and Syed continue to have a relationship even if Syed is rejected by the whole community

Katy

27-04-2010, 09:52

i thought it was brilliant, Amira was rubbish though, no emotion at all so wooden, but shes gone now so thats the main thing.

Thought Tamwar was brilliant,

tammyy2j

27-04-2010, 10:40

I just couldnt feel sorry for Amira her acting was terrible and cringeworthy compared to that of Christian and Syed

Siobhan

27-04-2010, 10:43

I just couldnt feel sorry for Amira her acting was terrible and cringeworthy compared to that of Christian and Syed

I felt for Amira.. she was so desperate to keep her husband.. and I didn't understand why she was so pathetic and clingy until she said that she is now tainted and will be her father's unpaid servant.. Then I began to realise why she was willing to live a lie too

Chris_2k11

27-04-2010, 14:30

Agreed about the bad acting from Amira, thats the worst i'd seen her. Apart from that everyone else was great though.

Dazzle

27-04-2010, 16:11

I felt for Amira.. she was so desperate to keep her husband.. and I didn't understand why she was so pathetic and clingy until she said that she is now tainted and will be her father's unpaid servant.. Then I began to realise why she was willing to live a lie too

I really felt for her too, and it really hit home what her life could now be like living with her father. No wonder Syed was so afraid of everyone's reaction, for himself and Amira. The way his family spoke to him when everyone was gone was terrible. Three cheers for Tamwar! :cheer:

At least Amira left with the knowledge that she would have her baby after all.

Christian did the wrong thing in forcing Syed out of the closet so publicly. It was Syed's choice how to live his life, not Christian's. I don't blame Syed for rejecting him at the end of the episode, although I'm sure they'll get together again sooner or later.

Siobhan

27-04-2010, 16:37

I don't blame Christian.. Syed said he would do the right thing.. Christian was just annoyed at been used all the time.. it was find for Syed to live this double life but not for either Christian or Amira... Syed clearly said he can't be a husband to Amira and she know something is up.. is it right for everyone to be unhappy in this and for Syed to carry on his secret just to please him??? Amira would have found out in the end and by then a whole lot too late... Syed should have left on his wedding day.. he said then he was gay and in love with Christian.. he should have stood up to his mother and walked out then

Dazzle

27-04-2010, 17:00

Siobhan

27-04-2010, 17:04

It's good that it's all out in the open now, but I still feel that it wasn't Christian's decision to make, especially in front of everyone they knew. When Amira had found out, it was up to her and Syed to decide what to do next, not Christian.

Technically, Christian just turned up at the house to see if anything was said and it was Amira who went mad at him and revealed everything..

Dazzle

27-04-2010, 17:19

Lol...I think you're right about that. My memory's obviously not very good :rotfl:

Ruffed_lemur

27-04-2010, 18:08

Dutchgirl

27-04-2010, 19:33

lizann

27-04-2010, 20:17

So where is Syed?

Zainab dont mind gossiping about other people but is mad when her or her family are gossiped about Roxy was dead right tonight in what she said and I dont like Roxy that much

Abigail

27-04-2010, 21:14

I think EE is so brave to put again such a controversial story in the lime light. I'm not an authority on the Islamic culture. But I hope they portrayed it true. It does give an insight in why Islamic people seem to be so against gay in general.

It's not just religion, its also to do with cultural beliefs. If you look at places such as Sudan, they stone people to death for being gay.

Also, its not just Islam that doesn't agree with homosexuality. Christianity, especially catholicism, forbids relations between people of the same sex. Obviously it depends on which branch of religion you observe and how pious you are as to what you believe. Not all Christians are against same sex marriage just as not all Muslims think gay people deserve to be stoned to death.

parkerman

28-04-2010, 06:25

It's not just religion, its also to do with cultural beliefs. If you look at places such as Sudan, they stone people to death for being gay.

It all stems from the religious belief though. It is only cultural because of their religion.

Also, its not just Islam that doesn't agree with homosexuality. Christianity, especially catholicism, forbids relations between people of the same sex. Obviously it depends on which branch of religion you observe and how pious you are as to what you believe. Not all Christians are against same sex marriage just as not all Muslims think gay people deserve to be stoned to death.

Isn't religion a wonderful thing? :thumbsdow

moonstorm

28-04-2010, 08:44

This is a great story line, everyone has a opinion on it and it is getting people thinking about religion. Anything which encourages discussions is a good idea.

Siobhan

28-04-2010, 09:28

This is a great story line, everyone has a opinion on it and it is getting people thinking about religion. Anything which encourages discussions is a good idea.

I agree but for non muslim people their religion does seem barbaric and wrong but who are we to question peoples beliefs.... For them it is who they are and we can't say they are wrong in what they believe as it is written by their holy people and wether we agree with it or not, we have to respect it.. I am sure they believe some of our believes are crazy too but it doesn't make them right... As you said.. this has everyone talking

tammyy2j

28-04-2010, 12:18

Will Phil punish Louise for what she did to Ben?

I agree this is a great storyline for EE.

Abigail

28-04-2010, 13:00

I'm fed up of Phil/Ben/Louise :wal: They're all so irritating.

Dazzle

28-04-2010, 16:21

Why is Syed being gay such a big deal to the rest of Walford? Is such a fuss still made when someone comes out in 21st century Britain?

Siobhan

28-04-2010, 16:32

Why is Syed being gay such a big deal to the rest of Walford? Is such a fuss still made when someone comes out in 21st century Britain?

It is just gossip.. I don't think they expected it at all.. you know what I won't miss in all this.. the way Amira keeps saying "babe" all the time..

Abigail

28-04-2010, 16:48

It is just gossip.. I don't think they expected it at all.. you know what I won't miss in all this.. the way Amira keeps saying "babe" all the time..

Eugh, that word makes me vomit in my mouth :sick:

Dazzle, I think its perhaps because it's so unexpected for an apparently happy married man to come out gay. Especially when he had a huge wedding and seemed totally in love with his bride.

Dazzle

28-04-2010, 16:55

parkerman

29-04-2010, 11:32

You're right, Abigail. It's not long since Syed and Amira's huge wedding, so it would be very surprising. I guess what I was most dismayed about in last night's episode was the hostility, especially from men like Phil.

The problem Phil has, of course, is that he thinks Ben is going to turn out gay. All this cissy dancing and stuff. Not that that should be a problem, but to a macho man like Phil, I'm sure it is.

Siobhan

29-04-2010, 11:57

The problem Phil has, of course, is that he thinks Ben is going to turn out gay. All this cissy dancing and stuff. Not that that should be a problem, but to a macho man like Phil, I'm sure it is.

That is exactly Phil's problem..he doesn't like that Ben is into what he would class as "girlie stuff"... He should just let Ben be Ben

Dazzle

29-04-2010, 16:33

Why do the parents in soaps never understand that you can't force your kids to be like them? Doing that just pushes them away.

parkerman

29-04-2010, 19:36

Why do the parents in soaps never understand that you can't force your kids to be like them? Doing that just pushes them away.

It makes for more interesting storylines...:lol:

sean slater

29-04-2010, 21:26

Wow good episode, so much to talk about! I cant believe Ben is turning into a psycho, scary stuff, replaying the Stella scenario with the spoon. Think he needs counselling. He should have had it after that whole Stella thing. Louise is a bit of a brat, I dont know where she gets her attitude from. Lisa wouldnt have brought her up like that.

I loved the Phil and Ben scenes tonight, they were very sweet. Im glad Louise isnt getting in the way of their relationship, and Shirley is such a good influence on Phil, there great together.

The Christian thing was not at all like the press said it would be. It wasnt as bad as when he was gay bashed by that guy that came back to his house, he couldnt move then. Christian could actually walk down the stairs, so he really didnt seem that badly injured. Still Masoods reaction was kind of creepy. Your instinct would be to help someone in that situation. He obviously had it it his head that he would bare the brunt so to him seeing him like that was just the expected. He probably figured its what he deserves.

Roxy is driving me mad with her attitude. She's amazing in a lot of ways but then it comes to money and she turns into stone. Ronnie deserves half of what her dad had, its normal and fair for it to be shared between your siblings. How can Roxy not get that???!!

*-Rooney-*

29-04-2010, 21:57

yeah and ronnie can be a bitch and try to take half of everything archie left her but all she wants is £150,000 - the money she lost when she put up sams bail, and roxy still laughed in her face. one day soon roxy is really gonna need her but the real question is will ronnie be their for her?

Perdita

29-04-2010, 22:01

I hope Roxy learns her lesson the hard way, she has turned into a real cow :(

Dutchgirl

30-04-2010, 09:48

Ah I felt sorry for Christian.

Roxy isn't half as classy as Ronnie. At least Ronnie is upfront about the money.

Siobhan

30-04-2010, 10:08

Poor Christian... I know someone else said he wasn't that bad as he could come down the stair but he was just putting on a front..he was probably more hurt than he looked and just didn't want to give Amira dad and his heavies that satisfaction.. his face looked ok but it would seem he got heavy punches to his stomach and he was clearly needing help.. I was not so surprised Masood walked past.. if he didn't know about Syed and this was just a gay attack, he would have helped but this was revenge for Amira, nothing gay about it and Masood blames Christian on all this too.

Well, as for Roxy.. technically it is Peggy/Phil/Sam's fault that Ronnie lost her money and Roxy doesn't have to pay Ronnie back but she has all that money and she could have helped her sister out

Dazzle

30-04-2010, 16:48

I'm not surprised Masood walked past, either. To be honest, I was wondering if he would have told Amira's father where Syed was if he'd known, even though it was obvious what was going to happen.

Perdita

30-04-2010, 21:31

Masood was so shocked that Zainab knew about Christian and Syed, I felt for him. I hope that they can work through this, don't want them to split

StarsOfCCTV

01-05-2010, 00:23

Ooh I do love a good reveal on a Friday in Eastenders!! :lol:

sean slater

01-05-2010, 13:13

Yeh was brilliant! It was about time Masood found out about Zanaib's part in all this. Masood is a lot more tolerant of other peoples way of life than Zanaib is. Zanaib just cant seem to see past her own nose. At least Masood may feel a bit more sympathy for Syed now that he knows Zanaib forced him to go through with the wedding. Syed didnt single handedly destroy Amira's life, his mum played a huge role in it! Such a shame for Amira though! She's so amazingly beautiful with a lovely bubbly personality, she could have found somebody really good for her, and now he's landed her with child, muslim, single. Surely that would be seen as 'tainted goods' in the muslim world.

tammyy2j

01-05-2010, 14:23

Dot was funny drinking her sherries trying to keep Harvey's secret :lol:

Well done to Lucy standing up for Uncle Christian they are really close

I wish Jane had smacked Zainab but I am glad Mas knows now

Surely Roxy has plenty cash that she wouldnt begrudge giving some to her sister Ronnie after all she has been through. Roxy should have offered Ronnie have of Archie's estate even if she didnt want it.

Dazzle

01-05-2010, 14:32

Surely Roxy has plenty cash that she wouldnt begrudge giving some to her sister Ronnie after all she has been through.

It doesn't seem realistic given how close the sisters used to be that Roxy would be so miserly with her money.

I'm looking forward to Zainab getting her comeuppance for emotionally blackmailing Syed to go through with the wedding. She shares at least as much blame as he does for ruining Amira's life. Syed was so terrified of disgracing his family and losing them again.

parkerman

01-05-2010, 16:00

Well done to Lucy standing up for Uncle Christian they are really close

Yes, Lucy was great. A few home truths from a teenager.

lizann

01-05-2010, 23:10

Zainab is one horrible cow I have no sympathy whatsoever for her she deserves all she gets

JustJodi

02-05-2010, 13:41

Zainab is one horrible cow I have no sympathy whatsoever for her she deserves all she gets

OMG LizAnn I totally agree with you, did U see how she was ready to throw the blame on some one else rather than admit she had known about Syed and Chris ???I wanted to slap her !!!!!!!

Abigail

03-05-2010, 13:21

I really didn't get Ben burning Louise with the spoon. It came out of nowhere.

moonstorm

03-05-2010, 13:23

I really didn't get Ben burning Louise with the spoon. It came out of nowhere.

I think this is a throwback to the Stella days.

Dazzle

03-05-2010, 15:45

I remember Stella burning Ben with a spoon.

JustJodi

03-05-2010, 15:52

I remember Stella burning Ben with a spoon.

(removed video clip.. voice overs contained very bad language)

bad clip but it shows what Stella did to Ben

JustJodi

03-05-2010, 15:53

I think this is a throwback to the Stella days.

Stella was one EVIL and mixed up woman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! she was HORRIBLE... no wonder poor lil Ben is so MIXED UP

Dazzle

03-05-2010, 15:55

Yeah, it's realistic that the way Stella abused him has long-term consequences. Ben is a good person, though, so I hope he realises what he's doing soon.

parkerman

03-05-2010, 18:21

bad clip but it shows what Stella did to Ben

Is this not a family forum any more?

sean slater

03-05-2010, 22:10

Yet another dramatic episode, Syed is back brill!

Siobhan

04-05-2010, 08:56

Is this not a family forum any more?

Yeah it is.. but this clip was shown at 7.30 at night and I think most people here have to be over 16...

Anyway last night was brilliant.. I so wanted it to work out with Zainab and Masood especially after seen them sing together.. that was so funny.. Zainab hasn't a note in her head :lol:

Syed back!! this should be good!

Dutchgirl

04-05-2010, 09:57

Oh my word. That was such a brilliant episode.
Jane is such a good sister. I think her and Christians relationship is one of the more normal ones in the square.( not sure how to put that one)(my English fails sometimes, sorry)

Billy I was wondering when hee would steal post again.

Syed had a genuine feeling in his eyes well done Marc Elliott.

Perdita

04-05-2010, 10:09

I know what you mean, Dutchgirl :)

Timalay

04-05-2010, 11:37

Please, please, please can we get rid of Ian and his Brood. He has spent far too much time on EE and I for one am getting bored of him.

Dazzle

04-05-2010, 12:29

Aww...I like Ian and his brood. Ian being sensitive to Christian last night was quite astonishing.

Siobhan

04-05-2010, 12:45

Aww...I like Ian and his brood. Ian being sensitive to Christian last night was quite astonishing.

Yeah. Ian and Christian's chat was lovely...

parkerman

04-05-2010, 13:21

Yeah it is.. but this clip was shown at 7.30 at night

Before the watershed!?

Siobhan

04-05-2010, 13:32

Before the watershed!?

Yes.. I have never known EE to be shown after 9pm (unless you count BBC 3) so always before watershed.. Sure all the other stuff Stella did to Ben (pinching, leaving him scared etc) were all shown before watershed.

*-Rooney-*

04-05-2010, 13:34

yeah im not understanding this either, whats the watershed got to do with the stella/ben storyline, it was on either 7.30 or 8.00 4 times a week

Dazzle

04-05-2010, 13:37

If you listen to the video clip, a voiceover has been put over the top that contains swearing. Is that where the confusion lies here?

Siobhan

04-05-2010, 13:38

If you listen to the video clip, a voiceover has been put over the top that contains swearing. Is that where the confusion lies here?

Ah ok.. I didn't realise there was a sound clip... I just knew the scene that was put up

Sorry Parkerman, just "listened" to the clip now.. removed it as it did contain bad language..

lizann

04-05-2010, 13:39

Why was Jane helping Zainab?

I loved when Mas throw her out

Ruffed_lemur

04-05-2010, 21:01

Aww...I like Ian and his brood. Ian being sensitive to Christian last night was quite astonishing.

Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by that. :)

sean slater

05-05-2010, 00:35

Oh Billy he will never learn. He's just too stupid to be a criminal lol. The dynamics with the Masoods was interesting tonight. Im loving Tamwar, he's got a great head on those young shoulders. Im glad Christian came back to face the music. I dont know who he's kidding saying he doesnt care about Chirstian. Its all so emotional lol
Jay back tonight well I thought he had emigrated lol

parkerman

05-05-2010, 08:24

Im glad Christian came back to face the music. I dont know who he's kidding saying he doesnt care about Chirstian.l:hmm::hmm::hmm:

Siobhan

05-05-2010, 08:38

:hmm::hmm::hmm:

I think she meant Syed...

Dutchgirl

05-05-2010, 09:12

Siobhan

05-05-2010, 09:20

So lending Billy the money was generous. But expecting him to pay it back the next day is too unrealistic. If he hasn't got the money today how will he come up with the goods the next day is beyond me.

I was wondering that too.. maybe he is due to get paid the next day so he could pay it back.. He told Heather he would have the rent money yet gave the 30 quid to Jay for his school trip so how was he to pay Heather?

I can understand Tamwar's annoyance at Syed.. his marriage was ruined cause he confessed he was in love with Christian and now he doesn't want to know him at all.. Was it worth saying anything? He could have just denied everything and accepted to be with Amira when she begged him to stay with her. Why go through all that just to ignore Christian...

Dutchgirl

05-05-2010, 09:22

I was wondering that too.. maybe he is due to get paid the next day so he could pay it back.. He told Heather he would have the rent money yet gave the 30 quid to Jay for his school trip so how was he to pay Heather?

I can understand Tamwar's annoyance at Syed.. his marriage was ruined cause he confessed he was in love with Christian and now he doesn't want to know him at all.. Was it worth saying anything? He could have just denied everything and accepted to be with Amira when she begged him to stay with her. Why go through all that just to ignore Christian...

I wondered the same. Tamwar is very understanding.

Siobhan

05-05-2010, 09:28

I think Tamwar would like to see Syed and Christian happy.

moonstorm

05-05-2010, 10:47

I like Tamwar, just wish he had better dress sense!!

Dazzle

05-05-2010, 15:10

Why go through all that just to ignore Christian...

I think Syed's just in denial as usual. Maybe he's existed like that for so long that he can't stop doing it. He seems to think that his family will accept him again if he doesn't have a gay relationship - they can be in denial then too. I don't think he'll be able to ignore Christian for long, though.

*-Rooney-*

05-05-2010, 18:01

lets not forget that tamwar had a crush or maybe more for amira,

Dutchgirl

07-05-2010, 08:00

I am always a big fan of Masoods. But this week he is terrifying. Keeping Zainab away from Kameel was downright cruel. Not only for Zainab bus especially for the baby. For the first time I felt for Zainab. Brilliant acting by Nina by the way.

Siobhan

07-05-2010, 08:44

Really good episode last night.. Glad Masood and zainab patched things up.. Christian doesn't want to be with Syed, that shocked me.. I really thought it would be the other way around...

JustJodi

07-05-2010, 09:41

Reverse psycology ??? Both of them doth protest too much !!!!!!!

I AM SORRY EVERY ONE ABOUT THE VIDEO CLIP( WITH BEN AND STELLA ), SINCE MY EXCUSE IS I AM DEAF AND HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS CUSSING AND STUFF IN THE VOICE OVER,, FOR THAT I SINCERLY APOLOGIZE