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Dennis tanner
29-10-2020, 03:31
Jenny was good tonight apart from that two very long episodes, the best bits could have been squeezed into a 22 minute episode.

Good acting I thought even though Johny has not told her the whole truth. Scott needs to die in a hail of police bullets to stop him blabbing

Far better than the Leanne show

Son of Cain
29-10-2020, 10:44
Ray has spoken to Scott in the past when he offered him a job, so surely he would have recognized his voice during the hold up? Scott is also quite tall which was surely another giveawa?

parkerman
29-10-2020, 12:09
Ray has spoken to Scott in the past when he offered him a job, so surely he would have recognized his voice during the hold up? Scott is also quite tall which was surely another giveawa?

Now you're just being silly. That would be far too rational a thought for a Coronation Street script writer.

Son of Cain
29-10-2020, 16:00
Now you're just being silly. That would be far too rational a thought for a Coronation Street script writer.

Duly noted, I have given myself a slap on the wrist.

tammyy2j
30-10-2020, 00:14
Jenny was good tonight apart from that two very long episodes, the best bits could have been squeezed into a 22 minute episode.

I think Jenny is great, one of the better characters

Ben Price as Nick is shining for me in the Oliver storyline, his emotions in his facial features is heartbreaking

Geoff spend the money on escorts, can that not be traced or was it all cash payments? Geoff could clean up from the business and house sells

Jadefalcon
30-10-2020, 01:04
Geoff spend the money on escorts, can that not be traced or was it all cash payments? Geoff could clean up from the business and house sells

Probably, but he gets a twisted satisfaction out of being a manipulative, controlling SOB.

parkerman
30-10-2020, 20:58
I see they went back to their local primary school for tonight's script and I must admit, it wasn't bad for a 10 year old, but I still think they need to have some adult supervision before their episodes go out to millions of viewers.

Dennis tanner
31-10-2020, 01:57
Probably, but he gets a twisted satisfaction out of being a manipulative, controlling SOB.

Geoff neds to die asap.

Perdita
31-10-2020, 11:24
Will we see Arthur again? Would love for him and Evelyn to get together :heart:

Jadefalcon
31-10-2020, 19:16
Alya should give up on trying to follow people, she's about as subtle as a brick to the face. Between following Geoff at a very short distance and not making much effort to conceal herself, and her loud talking on her phone, Geoff would have to be braindead, blind and deaf not to know she was there.

lizann
31-10-2020, 22:50
Alya should give up on trying to follow people, she's about as subtle as a brick to the face. Between following Geoff at a very short distance and not making much effort to conceal herself, and her loud talking on her phone, Geoff would have to be braindead, blind and deaf not to know she was there.

alya plays right into geoff's hands

Dennis tanner
01-11-2020, 01:06
Will we see Arthur again? Would love for him and Evelyn to get together :heart:

I would rather see her as Evelyn Cropper.

flappinfanny
02-11-2020, 00:01
Is Geoff deaf because Alya and Ryan were in front of him.

Basically a pile of drivel.

Dennis tanner
02-11-2020, 23:21
Sean should have got him some trainers off the market

lizann
04-11-2020, 01:49
sean should be minted, two jobs and lives with eileen

debbie storyline makes no sense

Lizphor
04-11-2020, 15:07
Hoping the writers make Sean more kindly and as you I see no value in Debbie---we don't need another corrie with issues!

Son of Cain
04-11-2020, 21:14
Hoping the writers make Sean more kindly and as you I see no value in Debbie---we don't need another corrie with issues!
Seems like Debbie is here for more than just decoration.
How does she know Ray, or is she the "Big Boss"?

tammyy2j
04-11-2020, 21:17
Seems like Debbie is here for more than just decoration.
How does she know Ray, or is she the "Big Boss"?

Is Debbie, Ray's ex wife or ex girlfriend?

Geoff should be arrested for what he did to Sally's garden, violence is not the answer, Debbie did wind him up to go at Sally and Tim

Ruffed_lemur
04-11-2020, 23:20
Don't like this story with Debbie being bad. Would she do this while living free with Kevin?

Dennis tanner
05-11-2020, 06:42
debbie storyline makes no sense

I find it staggering that there is a storyline to destroy the brand new set that ITV had built just a few years ago.

Brucie
06-11-2020, 10:43
To me, Debbie has become yet another "comedy villain" on Corrie. The ridiculous over the top clothes and the particularly silly voice when buttering Sally up with a quite lamentable dialogue - consistent throughout her scenes with Sally and Geoff. It's not been a good week, with the Debbie Drivel, the stolen money fiasco and the "impossible" football match attendance, and even more "impossible" hospitality aspect of that match! Following on from the shortest and least dramatic - ever - armed siege rubbish, it's time that the scriptwriters gave the actors something to work with.

parkerman
06-11-2020, 11:17
To me, Debbie has become yet another "comedy villain" on Corrie. The ridiculous over the top clothes and the particularly silly voice when buttering Sally up with a quite lamentable dialogue - consistent throughout her scenes with Sally and Geoff. It's not been a good week, with the Debbie Drivel, the stolen money fiasco and the "impossible" football match attendance, and even more "impossible" hospitality aspect of that match! Following on from the shortest and least dramatic - ever - armed siege rubbish, it's time that the scriptwriters gave the actors something to work with.

I think you are being a bit hard on the local Primary School. They are, after all, probably only 10 or 11 years old. They are doing their best.

Son of Cain
06-11-2020, 11:37
To me, Debbie has become yet another "comedy villain" on Corrie. The ridiculous over the top clothes and the particularly silly voice when buttering Sally up with a quite lamentable dialogue - consistent throughout her scenes with Sally and Geoff. It's not been a good week, with the Debbie Drivel, the stolen money fiasco and the "impossible" football match attendance, and even more "impossible" hospitality aspect of that match! Following on from the shortest and least dramatic - ever - armed siege rubbish, it's time that the scriptwriters gave the actors something to work with.

It feels to me that that Debbie "The Comedy Villain" was an after thought.I can't remember why she said she had returned to The Street or if she knew Ray before she turned up.
The row between Sally and Geoff started of as what I thought was meant to be comedy then turned "Super Serious" when Geoff started smashing things up then inviting Tim to hit him with the spade. Yasmeen seems to have go lost and forgotten about in this escalation. Geoff who was so clever in his planning of that story, now seems to have lost the plot. More misery with Dev and his kids, and Steve and Leanne, where are the light hearted moments Corrie was famous for.

Dennis tanner
07-11-2020, 05:43
Poor Dev. Not only is he having problems with the twins. He has forgotten about his other kids

lizann
07-11-2020, 14:34
Poor Dev. Not only is he having problems with the twins. He has forgotten about his other kids

how many has dev altogether

Perdita
07-11-2020, 18:02
how many has dev altogether

6 I think, never saw a couple and Shareen and Amber never get a mention now

Dennis tanner
07-11-2020, 19:10
how many has dev altogether

We don't know and neither does he .

lizann
07-11-2020, 22:17
does dev employ mary anymore as nanny

flappinfanny
08-11-2020, 23:32
Sue Devaney is a good actor but Debbie is hideous and too ott even for CS. What have they done to the character?

Is Aadi going to have sex with Corey before Asha?

thin space man
09-11-2020, 12:49
The problem with Corrie (if not all soaps at the moment) is that it's trying to carry on as normal, despite the fact that the covid restrictions, are rendering everything (other than distanced dialogue) impossible. Yet the show is still trying to cram gangland beatings, fights, armed robberies and even romance.....in a closed set in which actors can't contractually get close to each other. So any interactions (fights or otherwise) are a big no-no. If Gary beats someone up (it's off-screen) When he gets beat up (we don't see it) If a Robbery occurs, each character is pinned to the opposite corner of the room (in a socially-distanced mexican stand-off).....and the armed police didn't even storm the rovers (for fear of breaking the 'six-offender' rules, no doubt) Loved ones can't/don't even hug in times of great crisis.
It also hinders any romantic storylines they have in store (as it's going to be nigh on impossible, without CGI, to show characters kiss or even hug)
Personally, I couldn't care less for all the fighting and face-sucking
Corrie should utilize these restrictions and get back to what they (used to) do best...writing believable dialogue for likewise characters (they can save all the sex and violence for next year)

parkerman
09-11-2020, 13:21
The problem with Corrie (if not all soaps at the moment) is that it's trying to carry on as normal, despite the fact that the covid restrictions, are rendering everything (other than distanced dialogue) impossible. Yet the show is still trying to cram gangland beatings, fights, armed robberies and even romance.....in a closed set in which actors can't contractually get close to each other. So any interactions (fights or otherwise) are a big no-no. If Gary beats someone up (it's off-screen) When he gets beat up (we don't see it) If a Robbery occurs, each character is pinned to the opposite corner of the room (in a socially-distanced mexican stand-off).....and the armed police didn't even storm the rovers (for fear of breaking the 'six-offender' rules, no doubt) Loved ones can't/don't even hug in times of great crisis.
It also hinders any romantic storylines they have in store (as it's going to be nigh on impossible, without CGI, to show characters kiss or even hug)
Personally, I couldn't care less for all the fighting and face-sucking
Corrie should utilize these restrictions and get back to what they (used to) do best...writing believable dialogue for likewise characters (they can save all the sex and violence for next year)

Absolutely spot on, tsm. Very well said.

parkerman
10-11-2020, 00:58
I see they set the local primary school loose on the "team building curry". What on earth was all that about??????

lizann
10-11-2020, 01:46
I see they set the local primary school loose on the "team building curry". What on earth was all that about??????

a good few factory staff missing, not best when owner nick's step son so poorly also

Dennis tanner
10-11-2020, 05:28
I bet Leanne was hoping for that Male judge she used to know quite well.

tammyy2j
10-11-2020, 23:35
I thought Seb was back with Alina, why was she brought back if not for Seb?

The factory must be raking in profits to take on more staff and have a team building food outing

lizann
11-11-2020, 20:51
what's the age difference between alina and adam? no support from liz and janice for oliver

Perdita
12-11-2020, 05:20
what's the age difference between alina and adam? no support from liz and janice for oliver

Adam is 28, Alina is meant to be 25

lizann
12-11-2020, 09:35
Adam is 28, Alina is meant to be 25

thought younger just bare 18 like seb

Son of Cain
12-11-2020, 09:36
Adam is 28, Alina is meant to be 25

I have always thought of Alina as being in her teens about the same age as Seb who is 19, altho the actress is 25. Adam Barlow is I believe 32 being born on May 1988.

Son of Cain
12-11-2020, 11:21
Deleted - Posted in wrong forum.

Perdita
12-11-2020, 11:50
I have always thought of Alina as being in her teens about the same age as Seb who is 19, altho the actress is 25. Adam Barlow is I believe 32 being born on May 1988.
You are right, I read wrong details .. going to put glasses on next time ..:lol:

lizann
12-11-2020, 16:33
the fact carla had to point out to alina that adam is her boss's husband while separated is off limits did she learn nothing from trafficking of mixing with wrong uns

Son of Cain
12-11-2020, 17:57
the fact carla had to point out to alina that adam is her boss's husband while separated is off limits did she learn nothing from trafficking of mixing with wrong uns

Soap characters have very short memories.

Dennis tanner
13-11-2020, 00:02
The Bishop must have been really desperate to give the job to Silly Billy.

RogerOver
13-11-2020, 00:55
The Bishop must have been really desperate to give the job to Silly Billy.
Ha ha, I'd expect to see a comment like that from Dennis Healey, not Dennis Tanner.

Jadefalcon
13-11-2020, 02:12
I know Leanne is suffering, but I'm really waiting at one point for Dr Howarth to finally lose her rag and say something.

It seems Leanne cannot talk to anyone without being aggressive or generally nasty.

Dennis tanner
13-11-2020, 02:36
I know Leanne is suffering, but I'm really waiting at one point for Dr Howarth to finally lose her rag and say something.

It seems Leanne cannot talk to anyone without being aggressive or generally nasty.

I don't know why Ms Battersby spent so much money on that Barrister.

Steve had to make a special effort to get a tie and then couldn't be bothered to wear it properly

swmc66
13-11-2020, 23:46
Very difficult to feel for her when she is so horrible. I have never liked her character anyway.

lizann
14-11-2020, 00:38
Very difficult to feel for her when she is so horrible. I have never liked her character anyway.

i like leanne, jane is a good actress, she wants her son to live, she cant accept he is only alive with the machine

Dennis tanner
14-11-2020, 00:39
Very difficult to feel for her when she is so horrible. I have never liked her character anyway.

I loathed her father even more

parkerman
14-11-2020, 09:31
I can't help feeling that the producer and scriptwriters have done the Oliver storyline a great disservice by the way they have portrayed Leanne. The main emphasis has shifted from Oliver and the heartbreak for the parents to Leanne's unreasonable behaviour. The situation was retrieved somewhat by Steve's reaction to the court finding, but still it was spoilt by Leanne and diverted the attention away from any empathic feeling we might have to both parents in a situation like this, to being about Leanne and her unpleasant and aggressive behaviour, so that it is hard to feel any empathy or sympathy for her.

Ruffed_lemur
14-11-2020, 17:03
I can't help feeling that the producer and scriptwriters have done the Oliver storyline a great disservice by the way they have portrayed Leanne. The main emphasis has shifted from Oliver and the heartbreak for the parents to Leanne's unreasonable behaviour. The situation was retrieved somewhat by Steve's reaction to the court finding, but still it was spoilt by Leanne and diverted the attention away from any empathic feeling we might have to both parents in a situation like this, to being about Leanne and her unpleasant and aggressive behaviour, so that it is hard to feel any empathy or sympathy for her.

I think the producer and scriptwriters have done the storyline well, at least so far. I do feel empathy for both parents, and don't think Leanne's behaviour is unpleasant at all. She's just like a Mother Lion really! Quite understandable really.

Dennis tanner
14-11-2020, 17:33
I think the producer and scriptwriters have done the storyline well, at least so far. I do feel empathy for both parents, and don't think Leanne's behaviour is unpleasant at all. She's just like a Mother Lion really! Quite understandable really.

Regardless of any empathy I might feel, she is very unpleasant to anyone who says or does the slightest thing she disagrees with. She has no empathy for anyone else.

Perdita
14-11-2020, 18:50
Regardless of any empathy I might feel, she is very unpleasant to anyone who says or does the slightest thing she disagrees with. She has no empathy for anyone else.

She is desperate and must feel very much alone which means she is lashing out ... I think Steve did the right thing when he suggested she is doing all this for herself rather than Oliver ... but I can understand that a parent easily can lose sense of reality when faced with this kind of situation ... I cannot help feeling that if either Nick or Steve had been honest much earlier about how they feel about the life support for Oliver Leanne might not have gotten so bitter and twisted ... however, I suppose it would have been less dramatic and a lot less comments on this particular bit of the story

Jadefalcon
15-11-2020, 01:55
I do also wonder that with her saying that Nick and probably now Steve should be no part of this, will she still be expecting them to sell their businesses, like Steve with the cab firm, Nick with his business etc.

Perdita
15-11-2020, 06:26
I do also wonder that with her saying that Nick and probably now Steve should be no part of this, will she still be expecting them to sell their businesses, like Steve with the cab firm, Nick with his business etc.

Not needed now as that money was for Oliver's treatment in Germany ...

Son of Cain
15-11-2020, 10:31
I can't help feeling that the producer and scriptwriters have done the Oliver storyline a great disservice by the way they have portrayed Leanne. The main emphasis has shifted from Oliver and the heartbreak for the parents to Leanne's unreasonable behaviour. The situation was retrieved somewhat by Steve's reaction to the court finding, but still it was spoilt by Leanne and diverted the attention away from any empathic feeling we might have to both parents in a situation like this, to being about Leanne and her unpleasant and aggressive behaviour, so that it is hard to feel any empathy or sympathy for her.

I think this story has been well told. Leanne's aggressiveness and unpleasant behavior are in character for her, she has always been like this even tho' it has done her no favours in the Oliver story. Leanne has always been hot headed and aggressive and does not listen the other person's point of view before jumping in with both feet. She has taken things too far in this case by accusing Dr Howarth and others of wanting to "murder" her son no doctor would do this. Leanne simply cannot accept the reality of the situation, even if the courts agreed to keep Oliver on life support there is currently no cure or treatment for him, even if there was in the future, he is is having continual brain damage and so it would be too late for him. I think that Leanne feels that as long as Oliver is kept on life support he is still with her even if he is unresponsive and she clings to the hope that he one day he will come back to her. The thought of turning off the machine is unbearable to her, as then she will have to accept he is gone foreveer and she is simply not ready for this. When this happens she will have nothing to fight for, and this is what has kept her going. Unfortunately she has driven everyone away from her, and one can only hope, her family will have the patience to be there waiting for her to come to terms with the situation.
While not on the same scale I was in tears and found it extremely difficult to agree to the vet putting my cat down, I had hoped that he would simply die in his sleep and alleviate me from having to make that decision. So I can understand Leanne and do not know how I would have reacted in her situation.

Snagglepus
15-11-2020, 13:01
While not on the same scale I was in tears and found it extremely difficult to agree to the vet putting my cat down, I had hoped that he would simply die in his sleep and alleviate me from having to make that decision.

I still feel the guilt of having to do that twice in recent years.

Son of Cain
15-11-2020, 13:24
I still feel the guilt of having to do that twice in recent years.

When our other cat died we never got another as I could not face having to go through that again.

Ruffed_lemur
15-11-2020, 16:37
I think this story has been well told. Leanne's aggressiveness and unpleasant behavior are in character for her, she has always been like this even tho' it has done her no favours in the Oliver story. Leanne has always been hot headed and aggressive and does not listen the other person's point of view before jumping in with both feet. She has taken things too far in this case by accusing Dr Howarth and others of wanting to "murder" her son no doctor would do this. Leanne simply cannot accept the reality of the situation, even if the courts agreed to keep Oliver on life support there is currently no cure or treatment for him, even if there was in the future, he is is having continual brain damage and so it would be too late for him. I think that Leanne feels that as long as Oliver is kept on life support he is still with her even if he is unresponsive and she clings to the hope that he one day he will come back to her. The thought of turning off the machine is unbearable to her, as then she will have to accept he is gone foreveer and she is simply not ready for this. When this happens she will have nothing to fight for, and this is what has kept her going. Unfortunately she has driven everyone away from her, and one can only hope, her family will have the patience to be there waiting for her to come to terms with the situation.
While not on the same scale I was in tears and found it extremely difficult to agree to the vet putting my cat down, I had hoped that he would simply die in his sleep and alleviate me from having to make that decision. So I can understand Leanne and do not know how I would have reacted in her situation.

I think her family and friends would still be there for her. I really don't know how she would cope though. Jane Danson plays this as if it is real.

Perdita
15-11-2020, 17:02
When our other cat died we never got another as I could face having to go through that again.
Very understandable but I hope that one day you can give an abandoned pet a home ... they will not replace what you had, of course but will give you all the love and gratitude they have xxx

Son of Cain
15-11-2020, 17:23
I think her family and friends would still be there for her. I really don't know how she would cope though. Jane Danson plays this as if it is real.

Leanne will have to let them in, at present she still sees everyone as being against her and conspiring against her and Oliver. Hopefully they will still be there for her when she is ready to accept help.

Jadefalcon
15-11-2020, 19:50
Not needed now as that money was for Oliver's treatment in Germany ...

At first it was yes, but later it was for any legal fees and additional fees needed after the German Doctor would not go any further.

Also, when Steve was talking on his own to a comatose Oliver about how bad things were, am I the only one that wondered if he was going to switch the machines off?

Son of Cain
15-11-2020, 20:22
At first it was yes, but later it was for any legal fees and additional fees needed after the German Doctor would not go any further.

Also, when Steve was talking on his own to a comatose Oliver about how bad things were, am I the only one that wondered if he was going to switch the machines off?

Yes, I wondered that too, now I thinking that maybe it will be Leanne who will do it.

flappinfanny
16-11-2020, 00:40
Surprisingly moving episode. Simon Gregson was superb (I never thought i would say that) Well done to all concerned.

lizann
16-11-2020, 02:44
fairly obvious no child in the bed while steve and leanne arguing

Perdita
16-11-2020, 05:30
fairly obvious no child in the bed while steve and leanne arguing

Probably on purpose so not to scare the 3 year old child who plays Oliver ... not sure why they did not use a doll though ...

Snagglepus
16-11-2020, 10:11
Steve does a good impression of Beaker (muppet) with that mouth.

Dennis tanner
16-11-2020, 16:56
I think this story has been well told. Leanne's aggressiveness and unpleasant behavior are in character for her, she has always been like this even tho' it has done her no favours in the Oliver story. Leanne has always been hot headed and aggressive and does not listen the other person's point of view before jumping in with both feet. She has taken things too far in this case by accusing Dr Howarth and others of wanting to "murder" her son no doctor would do this. Leanne simply cannot accept the reality of the situation, even if the courts agreed to keep Oliver on life support there is currently no cure or treatment for him, even if there was in the future, he is is having continual brain damage and so it would be too late for him. I think that Leanne feels that as long as Oliver is kept on life support he is still with her even if he is unresponsive and she clings to the hope that he one day he will come back to her. The thought of turning off the machine is unbearable to her, as then she will have to accept he is gone foreveer and she is simply not ready for this. When this happens she will have nothing to fight for, and this is what has kept her going. Unfortunately she has driven everyone away from her, and one can only hope, her family will have the patience to be there waiting for her to come to terms with the situation.
While not on the same scale I was in tears and found it extremely difficult to agree to the vet putting my cat down, I had hoped that he would simply die in his sleep and alleviate me from having to make that decision. So I can understand Leanne and do not know how I would have reacted in her situation.

Leanne has to tell herself that the decision is out of her hands, especially after the court decision.

On two occasions we have had to agree with the Vets killing our dogs. They ask for our consent but the reality is that we could not say otherwise when our pets are suffering and cannot be cured.

emerald
16-11-2020, 23:32
What annoys me about this storyline is the social distancing aspect. I know it's out of the producer's hands but it means no one can comfort each other during this awful time. The example that stands out for me was in the courtroom last week when everyone was sitting apart and none of the characters were able to comfort Leanne as the judge gave her verdict.
I agree that she wants to fight for her child and can't accept that he has no quality of life, but I don't like how vile she's being to everyone.

Ruffed_lemur
16-11-2020, 23:32
When our other cat died we never got another as I could not face having to go through that again.

Losing a pet is so hard, after all. they are your family. I do feel it is still better to have them though, especially when rescued from a bad situation. Lost a Cat this year and it was SO difficult...The others help though.

lizann
17-11-2020, 17:58
would craig not ask the council about building works not gary? who has sal's council seat?

Dennis tanner
17-11-2020, 18:23
would craig not ask the council about building works not gary? who has sal's council seat?



Wouldn't it be cheaper for Ray to build his complex on an empty brownfield site?

Leanne's barrister is keen to have appeal after appeal. It's a very nice earner for him.

parkerman
17-11-2020, 19:09
Wouldn't it be cheaper for Ray to build his complex on an empty brownfield?

It's all complete nonsense and just another example in a long line of examples of how Corrie does not understand how local government works. His plans would have to be published first anyway before approval was given, so he couldn't keep them secret. Secondly, I would highly doubt the local Council would give permission for such an out of character development in a residential area. I wonder what their local plan has to say about the area.

Jadefalcon
17-11-2020, 21:01
Another thing is that Ray has mentioned a hotel. Apart from the fact that the sites footprint is rather small, what about parking. I don't know what century that Ray is in, but parking is rather vital for a hotel in the modern days.

thin space man
19-11-2020, 00:14
Carla just needs to bed Ken now (for a 'Full House')

Jammy Scotch Git

lizann
19-11-2020, 00:56
Carla just needs to bed Ken now (for a 'Full House')

Jammy Scotch Git

tracy

Son of Cain
19-11-2020, 10:08
It's all complete nonsense and just another example in a long line of examples of how Corrie does not understand how local government works. His plans would have to be published first anyway before approval was given, so he couldn't keep them secret. Secondly, I would highly doubt the local Council would give permission for such an out of character development in a residential area. I wonder what their local plan has to say about the area.

He could possible get some underground parking, altho maybe not enough. Is there a need for a hotel in the area, we have never seen many tourist or business visitors in the past.
Perhaps he has not applied for planning permission yet, which make it all the more crazy to be buying up property now. Unless he knows some dodgy councillors who will put it thru' on the nod. We all know that they will not be demolishing half the street so as you say nonsense.

parkerman
19-11-2020, 11:28
He could possible get some underground parking, altho maybe not enough. Is there a need for a hotel in the area, we have never seen many tourist or business visitors in the past.
Perhaps he has not applied for planning permission yet, which make it all the more crazy to be buying up property now. Unless he knows some dodgy councillors who will put it thru' on the nod. We all know that they will not be demolishing half the street so as you say nonsense.

He said last night that he hadn't applied for planning permission, which, of course, he couldn't have done because the plans would then have to be published. A plan like that, I'm guessing, would cause uproar on the Council and he would need to bribe an awful lot of Councillors to be sure of getting it through. I would imagine the local paper would be against it and whip up local feeling. As well as bribes, Councillors need to look at where their next votes are coming from!

Jadefalcon
20-11-2020, 01:19
And yet another chapter in the Peter Barlow Alcoholic storyline. I realise Alcoholics are never really cured but I feel it gets a bit boring repeating the same storyline over and over again, not to mention some of the stuff he said to Carla was really out of line.

Snagglepus
20-11-2020, 20:07
A new head and character change for Summer this winter.

parkerman
20-11-2020, 22:46
A new head and character change for Summer this winter.

I'm surprised Todd and Summer recognised each other!

tammyy2j
20-11-2020, 23:57
A new head and character change for Summer this winter.

I thought it was Kelly, Ric Neelan's daughter

tammyy2j
21-11-2020, 00:11
Emma is so sweet and nice, very good scenes with her and Tracy

Dennis tanner
21-11-2020, 05:47
Emma is so sweet and nice, very good scenes with her and Tracy

Emma is the best thing that Tracy could have had.

RogerOver
21-11-2020, 05:50
Emma is the best thing that Tracy could have had.
From what I remember Paula was the best thing Tracy had.

lizann
21-11-2020, 21:05
From what I remember Paula was the best thing Tracy had.

lol

emerald
21-11-2020, 21:19
Carla sleeping with Adam was one of the most ridiculous twists they could have given this plot. Her and Peter are just going to go on that toxic merry-go-round again, with accusations and apologies, until some other disaster happens. And of course, no one can be affectionate to each other so her one night stand with Adam just looked cold and clinical, with the two of them not even touching at any point.

lizann
21-11-2020, 21:23
carla pregnant, a barlow baby but by who

Ruffed_lemur
22-11-2020, 01:01
carla pregnant, a barlow baby but by who

Please no! She should go and get morning after pill, unless she was protected.

lizann
22-11-2020, 02:07
Please no! She should go and get morning after pill, unless she was protected.

she's not thinking of that, only of peter finding out it is adam, dev will let slip about the wallet to peter or daniel

Dennis tanner
22-11-2020, 02:20
carla pregnant, a barlow baby but by who
A Baldwin baby

lizann
22-11-2020, 03:14
A Baldwin baby

does adam go by barlow

Perdita
22-11-2020, 05:12
does adam go by barlow

Yes, probably because Susan Barlow and Mike Baldwin never married so he took his mother's surname

emerald
22-11-2020, 11:54
I definitely don't want a whos-the-father story for Carla. This storyline is only going to drive a wedge between the Barlow boys who are one of the strongest character groups in Corrie, with roots going back to the early years through Ken. There was already enough trauma going on for Peter and Carla without bringing Adam into it.

Dennis tanner
23-11-2020, 05:43
Yes, probably because Susan Barlow and Mike Baldwin never married so he took his mother's surname

My information si that Mike and Susan were maried in 1986

lizann
23-11-2020, 16:42
My information si that Mike and Susan were maried in 1986

yes thought they married also

parkerman
23-11-2020, 17:07
My information si that Mike and Susan were maried in 1986

They were married on 6 May 1986. One of the reasons they split up was because Susan told Mike she intended to have an abortion when she became pregnant with Adam, but, of course, never went through with it. But by the time he was born they had split up.

Perdita
23-11-2020, 17:19
They were married on 6 May 1986. One of the reasons they split up was because Susan told Mike she intended to have an abortion when she became pregnant with Adam, but, of course, never went through with it. But by the time he was born they had split up.

Thank you for the information, was not aware as only able to watch sporadically in those years. Guess because they were no longer married Susan registered him as Barlow on the birth certificate and not Baldwin..

Dennis tanner
24-11-2020, 06:03
Thank you for the information, was not aware as only able to watch sporadically in those years. Guess because they were no longer married Susan registered him as Barlow on the birth certificate and not Baldwin..

I still regard him as a Baldwin.

mysangry
24-11-2020, 16:01
I still regard him as a Baldwin.
Got to be a pregnancy in this, why else would it have become a case of Carla taking over from Maria as the Street Bike.
Maybe she should get an STD and that would be a real problem, coz Peter and Adam could have it too!

lizann
24-11-2020, 16:06
I still regard him as a Baldwin.

did adam get anything in mike's will, he did want the factory from johnny and aidan, mike had 3 sons, danny mark and adam

Jadefalcon
24-11-2020, 18:06
Another pair of episodes filled with Leanne being downright nasty to everyone.

Dennis tanner
24-11-2020, 23:51
Another pair of episodes filled with Leanne being downright nasty to everyone.

Everyone including the NHS.

Jadefalcon
25-11-2020, 03:51
Even when others are trying to say something she refuses to see points of view. Accusing Steve and Nick of 'manhandling' Oliver was downright nasty, and how does she expect Paula to react if that's the way she talks to people.

Highlight though was seeing Geoff all twisted up when he sees people turning against him.

Son of Cain
25-11-2020, 07:06
I thought Carla could not have children.

lizann
25-11-2020, 10:28
I thought Carla could not have children.

same with leanne

Perdita
25-11-2020, 19:01
same with leanne

Not unless blessed by Saint Steve McDonald

lizann
25-11-2020, 19:42
so ray should know about planning before even taking ownerships of the street properties

Dennis tanner
26-11-2020, 05:51
so ray should know about planning before even taking ownerships of the street properties

THey are spending a lot of money on a gamble. What could possibly go wrong

Jadefalcon
26-11-2020, 19:25
Really think that Geoff is overacting with the way he 'twists' his mouth all the time, especially when arguing.

Dennis tanner
27-11-2020, 06:25
Really think that Geoff is overacting with the way he 'twists' his mouth all the time, especially when arguing.

But he's the number 1 soap actor I'll have you know

parkerman
27-11-2020, 23:13
I've just had a good idea for a novel storyline that I don't think has ever been done before. Alya breaks into Geoff's house looking for evidence but Geoff catches her and throws her out.

lizann
28-11-2020, 03:35
all grieving no hugging, could use real partners

Perdita
28-11-2020, 04:19
all grieving no hugging, could use real partners

I was thinking that too ... very good acting from all though, especially Jane Danson :clap: :thumbsup:

Dennis tanner
28-11-2020, 05:49
Some good scenes in The Rovers

Perdita
28-11-2020, 10:30
So what is Daisy and her Luke up to ? Trying a scam? Have we not had enough of those kind of storylines ?

emerald
28-11-2020, 20:40
Some heartbreaking scenes last night. One of the things I've enjoyed about this sad storyline is how it's affected several families on the Street and has enabled Oliver's various relatives to interact with characters they don't usually share scenes with, such as Steve and Sarah recently, and now Toyah and Gail. In fact Gail was one of the strongest characters for me in her few scenes, desperately wondering what on earth she can say to Nick, which proves yet again that she isn't just a simpering idiot.
The final scene, with Leanne crying in Oliver's bedroom with all his toys around her, was the saddest of all. Something about the dinosaur pillowcase just set me off, for some reason...

Jadefalcon
29-11-2020, 16:56
I think the need for CPR really has finally brought it home for Leanne, especially when she was told this wouldn't be a one off case and there would probably be an increased chance for failure to recussitate. The human body can only take so much of this. As I've mentioned before I've got epilepsy that is well under control, but I recall being told that each seizure can put a strain on the heart. Oliver has been having seizures, albeit not epileptic ones, but probably of similiar or worse severity, even more so considering his age and doctors have to be more careful when its a child so young with procedures like CPR.

Son of Cain
29-11-2020, 19:49
I think the need for CPR really has finally brought it home for Leanne, especially when she was told this wouldn't be a one off case and there would probably be an increased chance for failure to recussitate. The human body can only take so much of this. As I've mentioned before I've got epilepsy that is well under control, but I recall being told that each seizure can put a strain on the heart. Oliver has been having seizures, albeit not epileptic ones, but probably of similiar or worse severity, even more so considering his age and doctors have to be more careful when its a child so young with procedures like CPR.

I saw a doctor talking about resuscitation on TV, saying it is not as is shown in hospital dramas often is is so vigorous that patients suffers broken ribs. I would not imagine a three year old could withstand much of this sort of trauma. This story reminds us of how great Corrie can be.

Jadefalcon
29-11-2020, 19:55
I saw a doctor talking about resuscitation on TV, saying it is not as is shown in hospital dramas often is is so vigorous that patients suffers broken ribs. I would not imagine a three year old could withstand much of this sort of trauma. This story reminds us of how great Corrie can be.

Well I remember doing a first aid course some years back and being shown that CPR with a baby is obviously totally different from even a toddler, never mind a full grown adult. As you say there's the chance of broken ribs or worse.

tammyy2j
29-11-2020, 22:46
Some heartbreaking scenes last night. One of the things I've enjoyed about this sad storyline is how it's affected several families on the Street and has enabled Oliver's various relatives to interact with characters they don't usually share scenes with, such as Steve and Sarah recently, and now Toyah and Gail. In fact Gail was one of the strongest characters for me in her few scenes, desperately wondering what on earth she can say to Nick, which proves yet again that she isn't just a simpering idiot.
The final scene, with Leanne crying in Oliver's bedroom with all his toys around her, was the saddest of all. Something about the dinosaur pillowcase just set me off, for some reason...

I agree when given dramatic material Gail is very good

Was there any mention of Liz, Janice, Stella or any of the other family members?

I liked Emma with Simon and Amy also

Jadefalcon
29-11-2020, 22:58
I agree when given dramatic material Gail is very good

Was there any mention of Liz, Janice, Stella or any of the other family members?

I liked Emma with Simon and Amy also

The only mention of Liz in the Friday episodes seemed to be the Jenny/Johnny argument when he was trying to get a divorce.

tammyy2j
29-11-2020, 22:59
The only mention of Liz in the Friday episodes seemed to be the Jenny/Johnny argument when he was trying to get a divorce.

I wish Bev had filmed something she is only in Wales in a castle, he is her grandson

flappinfanny
29-11-2020, 23:27
A moving and sad episode, i don't see the wisdom in killing off Oliver, i don't think the producers and writers have thought about this long term.

parkerman
29-11-2020, 23:35
No doubt Les and Janice will be appearing soon to comfort their daughter and attend the funeral......er....

lizann
30-11-2020, 20:40
run faye, after what happened to bethany and anna be smarter

Ruffed_lemur
30-11-2020, 23:34
run faye, after what happened to bethany and anna be smarter

I was surprised she stayed for "fun" with Ray.

Perdita
01-12-2020, 04:08
I was surprised she stayed for "fun" with Ray.

I do not quite understand why Faye feels so undervalued to fall for Ray's charms so easily ... I think she was always well looked after by Anna and then her dad and other family members to give her a bit more self confidence...

Dennis tanner
01-12-2020, 04:39
No doubt Les and Janice will be appearing soon to comfort their daughter and attend the funeral......er....

I really really hope not

Dennis tanner
01-12-2020, 04:41
I think that Leanne would like that cake for her celebration

Perdita
01-12-2020, 16:23
A moving and sad episode, i don't see the wisdom in killing off Oliver, i don't think the producers and writers have thought about this long term.

Rather this than seeing Leanne and Steve and the others sitting round a hospital bed for the next few years, surely ...

Dennis tanner
01-12-2020, 16:33
Surely it's not too late for Sally to cancel the house sale

swmc66
02-12-2020, 07:34
I was shocked that she fell into his trap so easily. She has only had stability with Sally ....life with Anna was not all that.

swmc66
02-12-2020, 07:35
Forgot about that finally Shona does something good

lizann
02-12-2020, 17:14
I was shocked that she fell into his trap so easily. She has only had stability with Sally ....life with Anna was not all that.

anna was a good mother to faye

Son of Cain
02-12-2020, 20:09
I was shocked that she fell into his trap so easily. She has only had stability with Sally ....life with Anna was not all that.

Surely what Ray did with Faye was a form of rape or sexual assault. She was coerced rather than truly consenting to getting into bed with him. I am sure that a few weeks ago she was wary of him but now she goes to a hotel room with him unaccompanied. Surely she should have been suspicious of him when he asked her to help work on the wine list, as she knows next to nothing about wine. I doubt she has drank more than a couple of glasses of wine in her life.

lizann
02-12-2020, 20:25
could imran have yasmeen tested to prove alcohol abuse, an alcoholic, if she really was she would crumble detoxing in prison all this time, geoff is too cocky

parkerman
02-12-2020, 23:25
Something very strange going on with the masks. Simon walks into Roy's Rolls with his mask on but takes it off when he gets inside, which is the reverse of what he should do. Then he and Shona sit in the cafe talking without masks on, but then are showing exiting with their masks on. All very strange........

Dennis tanner
03-12-2020, 04:42
Surely what Ray did with Faye was a form of rape or sexual assault. She was coerced rather than truly consenting to getting into bed with him. I am sure that a few weeks ago she was wary of him but now she goes to a hotel room with him unaccompanied. Surely she should have been suspicious of him when he asked her to help work on the wine list, as she knows next to nothing about wine. I doubt she has drank more than a couple of glasses of wine in her life.

She was very silly but still willing.

Dennis tanner
03-12-2020, 04:44
Dim Tim was very silly to brag to Geoff about his mother

Son of Cain
03-12-2020, 07:37
She was very silly but still willing.

I don't think she could be described as willing. She was not physically forced but Ray still pressured her into it. I think she felt because he was her boss and had recently promoted her that she could not refuse. This is not what I would call free will.
I am wondering if this has been introduced as a storyline to give the residents who sold their houses to him a means of forcing him to sell them back when they find out about it.

Perdita
03-12-2020, 08:37
Dim Tim was very silly to brag to Geoff about his mother

As is Alya all the time telling Geoff what she will do for her gran.... glad this is going to be over soon

lizann
03-12-2020, 09:19
i think the show was incorporating #metoo movement with harvey weinstein casting couch storyline for ray and faye but it failed to pull it off for me, maybe the actress playing faye cannot act dramatic she did not seem traumatised, how will debbie react to ray's antics with young ones or does she care

Son of Cain
03-12-2020, 09:30
Something very strange going on with the masks. Simon walks into Roy's Rolls with his mask on but takes it off when he gets inside, which is the reverse of what he should do. Then he and Shona sit in the cafe talking without masks on, but then are showing exiting with their masks on. All very strange........

Yes, Emmerdale also do this, it is as if the producers feel they have show people wearing masks just to acknowledge Covid but don't really bother to show it properly as in the real world. It may be that they feel that we cannot understand what the cast are saying if we cannot see their faces, but we have manage this in real life. I have seen it said that people with hearing difficulties need to see the faces to lip read, but I am not sure this is a valid argument as characters do not always face the camera, and there are subtitles. As you say very strange or maybe just lazy lip service.

parkerman
03-12-2020, 09:44
Yes, Emmerdale also do this, it is as if the producers feel they have show people wearing masks just to acknowledge Covid but don't really bother to show it properly as in the real world. It may be that they feel that we cannot understand what the cast are saying if we cannot see their faces, but we have manage this in real life. I have seen it said that people with hearing difficulties need to see the faces to lip read, but I am not sure this is a valid argument as characters do not always face the camera, and there are subtitles. As you say very strange or maybe just lazy lip service.

Mind you, Corrie and Emmerdale are one better than Eastenders, which seems to be living in a post-Covid world, with no-one wearing masks and people popping into each other's houses as and when the fancy takes them while the Queen Vic takes no notice at all of any regulations.

Son of Cain
03-12-2020, 09:56
Mind you, Corrie and Emmerdale are one better than Eastenders, which seems to be living in a post-Covid world, with no-one wearing masks and people popping into each other's houses as and when the fancy takes them while the Queen Vic takes no notice at all of any regulations.

To make matters worse there is no acknowledgement of the second lockdown or the tier system.

Son of Cain
03-12-2020, 10:03
i think the show was incorporating #metoo movement with harvey weinstein casting couch storyline for ray and faye but it failed to pull it off for me, maybe the actress playing faye cannot act dramatic she did not seem traumatised, how will debbie react to ray's antics with young ones or does she care

Agreed, the way it was filmed was not good, using the break for the before and after, we had no feeling of anything really happening. There was no build up, it all seemed to happen too quick. I feel we should have seen more of Ray grooming Faye over a longer time.

Son of Cain
03-12-2020, 16:36
[QUOTE=lizann;953081]could imran have yasmeen tested to prove alcohol abuse, an alcoholic, if she really was she would crumble detoxing in prison all this time, geoff is too cocky[/QUOTE


Surely friends and neighbours would have noticed if Yameen was drinking to excess. I don't think we ever saw her drunk. The Rovers and Dev would notice how much she was buying, so unless Geoff says she was going to Freshcos, or somewhere further away, for it, it should be pretty easy to cast doubt on his claims.

parkerman
03-12-2020, 16:55
could imran have yasmeen tested to prove alcohol abuse, an alcoholic, if she really was she would crumble detoxing in prison all this time, geoff is too cocky


Surely friends and neighbours would have noticed if Yameen was drinking to excess. I don't think we ever saw her drunk. The Rovers and Dev would notice how much she was buying, so unless Geoff says she was going to Freshcos, or somewhere further away, for it, it should be pretty easy to cast doubt on his claims.

I'm not sure that's entirely true, SoC. Alcoholics can be very good at covering up their addiction. I don't want to go into details as it's all too personal, but I was at one time very close to someone who was an alcoholic and I don't think anyone outside her immediate family actually realised it.

Jadefalcon
03-12-2020, 17:03
Even if Elaine changes her mind surely if found out, Geoff can be done for witness tampering.

lizann
03-12-2020, 17:54
will the camera recordings be revisited retrieved come out in the trial

Dennis tanner
04-12-2020, 05:01
i think the show was incorporating #metoo movement with harvey weinstein casting couch storyline for ray and faye but it failed to pull it off for me, maybe the actress playing faye cannot act dramatic she did not seem traumatised, how will debbie react to ray's antics with young ones or does she care Debbie will not care as long as she doesn't lose her money

Son of Cain
04-12-2020, 09:18
I'm not sure that's entirely true, SoC. Alcoholics can be very good at covering up their addiction. I don't want to go into details as it's all too personal, but I was at one time very close to someone who was an alcoholic and I don't think anyone outside her immediate family actually realised it.

It is true that alcoholics can be very secretive about their drinking, but I do not think Yasmeen's story was written well enough to suggest this. She has known Goeff for less than two years, Alya was living with her before Geoff moved in, she was much more outgoing and spent a lot more time in the company of others before this, and yet no one suspected she had a problem with drink. After she married Geoff she spent much more time at home so her opportunities to buy drink were limited, especially since he put her on a budget and took her credit card, which I think Alya and perhaps others knew about. On the occassion when she did go to The Rovers she did not drink to excess, so really there was only Geoff's word for it that she had a drink problem. I thought Imran should raised this with Geoff in court, perhaps he will later.

Perdita
04-12-2020, 11:22
i think the show was incorporating #metoo movement with harvey weinstein casting couch storyline for ray and faye but it failed to pull it off for me, maybe the actress playing faye cannot act dramatic she did not seem traumatised, how will debbie react to ray's antics with young ones or does she care

Faye was not traumatised but she clearly felt uncomfortable afterwards and probably wished she had never done the dirty deed

Jadefalcon
04-12-2020, 16:34
Faye was not traumatised but she clearly felt uncomfortable afterwards and probably wished she had never done the dirty deed

She probably has got wrapped up in the idea of being management. Note this doesn't say she deserves it but maybe she should have suspected when Ray answered wearing his dressing gown.

Perdita
04-12-2020, 16:41
She probably has got wrapped up in the idea of being management. Note this doesn't say she deserves it but maybe she should have suspected when Ray answered wearing his dressing gown.

I agree but if she had walked away she knew that she would no longer be a trainee manager and probably not even a waitress ...she must have felt confused as to what to do for the best...

Son of Cain
04-12-2020, 16:52
I agree but if she had walked away she knew that she would no longer be a trainee manager and probably not even a waitress ...she must have felt confused as to what to do for the best...

Very true but Ray knew this too, manipulated the situation, and took advantage of a young girl. May not be illegal but not right, deserves some come back for his bad behavior.

Jadefalcon
04-12-2020, 17:57
Perhaps she could have said something like "Caught you at a bad time".

Regarding Geoff intimidating Elaine, surely the hospital has CCTV, the turned black collar on the jacket and black skipped hat would look a bit conspicuous, also wouldn't the computer system log the passcard he used.

Snagglepus
04-12-2020, 18:30
She probably has got wrapped up in the idea of being management. Note this doesn't say she deserves it but maybe she should have suspected when Ray answered wearing his dressing gown.

Yes, she was thinking more of what was in it for her. She could have said she was on her period.

lizann
04-12-2020, 20:52
no one can hug comfort leanne and steve, even their partners

parkerman
04-12-2020, 23:19
I love Sam.

Perdita
05-12-2020, 05:16
Would the ambulance crew really give out detailed info on how far away from Yasmeen Geoff was on the floor ?? And Yasmeen would have moved from where she was by the time the police arrived?

Dennis tanner
05-12-2020, 05:54
I agree but if she had walked away she knew that she would no longer be a trainee manager and probably not even a waitress ...she must have felt confused as to what to do for the best...

She should not have been confused about him being trustworthy.

Dennis tanner
05-12-2020, 05:57
I note that the prosecutor is Lovejoy's daugher. He would be so ashamed of her.

Son of Cain
05-12-2020, 08:50
The prosecutor seems to be putting more energy into defending Geoff than prosecuting Yasmeen.

Son of Cain
05-12-2020, 08:58
Perhaps she could have said something like "Caught you at a bad time".

Regarding Geoff intimidating Elaine, surely the hospital has CCTV, the turned black collar on the jacket and black skipped hat would look a bit conspicuous, also wouldn't the computer system log the passcard he used.

The passcard that Geoff used was in the name of Pauline Durant, who was the person that phoned him while he was using it. So even if they could not recognize Geoff from the CCTV footage they would see it was not Pauline using it.

swmc66
05-12-2020, 10:06
I did not know she was Liam Gallaghers daughter and Faye windass actress Brooke Vincents cousin

parkerman
05-12-2020, 10:20
I can't help feeling that if Yasmeen is convicted, there are immediate grounds for appeal in the judge not allowing the CCTV footage to be brought into evidence.

Perdita
05-12-2020, 10:57
What did Debbie take out of that white car? Is it her car?

Perdita
05-12-2020, 10:59
I can't help feeling that if Yasmeen is convicted, there are immediate grounds for appeal in the judge not allowing the CCTV footage to be brought into evidence.

The judge said he did not object to the CCTV footage being obtained but he was not going adjourn the court case for it ... so Imran has to act quickly to get it from the hospital and I am sure he will manage it. They really need it to prove that Elaine told the truth about Geoff seeing her in her hospital room

parkerman
05-12-2020, 12:54
The judge said he did not object to the CCTV footage being obtained but he was not going adjourn the court case for it ... so Imran has to act quickly to get it from the hospital and I am sure he will manage it. They really need it to prove that Elaine told the truth about Geoff seeing her in her hospital room

Still grounds for appeal, not allowing time to obtain relevant evidence.

lizann
05-12-2020, 13:14
What did Debbie take out of that white car? Is it her car?

is she sabotaging her own car? im confused

lizann
05-12-2020, 13:23
did tim ever tell about geoff deleting other video camera footage, could imran get a order to obtain the laptop retrieve the deleted footage

Snagglepus
05-12-2020, 13:38
did tim ever tell about geoff deleting other video camera footage, could imran get a order to obtain the laptop retrieve the deleted footage
I think because it was obtained illegally, (Alya stole the laptop), it could not be submitted as evidence no matter how true it was.

Jadefalcon
05-12-2020, 14:09
The passcard that Geoff used was in the name of Pauline Durant, who was the person that phoned him while he was using it. So even if they could not recognize Geoff from the CCTV footage they would see it was not Pauline using it.

Apologies, that's what I was trying to imply but didn't make clear. I saw the woman's name on the card but couldn't recall it at the time. In fact wasn't he on his phone to her at the moment he was using it.

Son of Cain
05-12-2020, 17:32
Apologies, that's what I was trying to imply but didn't make clear. I saw the woman's name on the card but couldn't recall it at the time. In fact wasn't he on his phone to her at the moment he was using it.

No need to apologize. - Yes he was on his phone to her as he was using it, she also worked for the hospital radio. He seemed to be thanking her for lending it to him, which I did not understand as she must have been in the hospital when she gave it to him, so how did he get it from her, unless they were both in a part of the hospital where it was not needed for access. In that case I wonder what reason he gave her for needing it. ??? - Did not really make sense to me.

Perdita
06-12-2020, 08:44
is she sabotaging her own car? im confused

I think she tampered with Kevin's car or Abi's to stop them getting to lodge an appeal against the planning application in time

Son of Cain
06-12-2020, 08:55
It always makes me laugh how in Soaps people take over public spaces for events like weddings etc and in this case a funeral service seemingly without any consultation or permission from the Council. You can imagine the red tape involved nowadays with risk assessments, health and safety considerations, probably having to post a notice of intent for a period beforehand and yet Leanne organized this within a few days. Would there be a power supply for the TV in the garden, it would be handy for people to charge there phones or even for those with electric cars for free.

Jadefalcon
06-12-2020, 14:36
That prosecutor, even taking into account she's doing her job is a smarmy slimey bitch. I've never believed in this crap about yes or no sole answers.

Perdita
06-12-2020, 16:21
That prosecutor, even taking into account she's doing her job is a smarmy slimey bitch. I've never believed in this crap about yes or no sole answers.

Also Imran would normally have re-questioned Yasmeen on most points really rather than just letting the prosecutor's story of possible events stand .. why was she wearing a wig but Imran did not??? :hmm:

parkerman
06-12-2020, 17:22
Everyone seems to forget the legal system is completely different in Weatherfield. The mistake everyone usually makes is in assuming that Weatherfield is in the UK. It is not. It is an entirely separate country with its own laws and rules. This applies not only to the legal system but also to the way their local council operates.

Son of Cain
06-12-2020, 17:37
Also Imran would normally have re-questioned Yasmeen on most points really rather than just letting the prosecutor's story of possible events stand .. why was she wearing a wig but Imran did not??? :hmm:

I am just guessing about this but she is probably a barrister and Imran is not, he is a solicitor. I think only barristers where wigs.

Re: "yes and no answers" this is a tactic employed to avoid "if buts and maybe" or anything that might further explain why something was done or said. It is the defence counsel's job to bring this during cross examination.

Jadefalcon
06-12-2020, 19:15
I am just guessing about this but she is probably a barrister and Imran is not, he is a solicitor. I think only barristers where wigs.

Re: "yes and no answers" this is a tactic employed to avoid "if buts and maybe" or anything that might further explain why something was done or said. It is the defence counsel's job to bring this during cross examination.

It's a bit rich though to badger witnesses with tactics like "Are you a mind reader" when she's doing exactly the same thing and even worse, getting away with it.

lizann
06-12-2020, 20:47
i didn't think a solicitor could represent at at jury criminal trial thought it had to be a barrister

parkerman
06-12-2020, 22:57
i didn't think a solicitor could represent at at jury criminal trial thought it had to be a barrister

It is highly unusual, but a solicitor can represent a client in court. There is no reason in law why they cannot.

tammyy2j
07-12-2020, 00:33
I think she tampered with Kevin's car or Abi's to stop them getting to lodge an appeal against the planning application in time

She could cause Kevin to have an accident, injuring or killing her brother, too much Debbie

I hope Yasmeen does get off, I hate the smirk off Geoff but both actors are playing blinders in the storyline

Son of Cain
07-12-2020, 10:38
It's a bit rich though to badger witnesses with tactics like "Are you a mind reader" when she's doing exactly the same thing and even worse, getting away with it.

This what barristers do, they put you under pressure in an attempt to get you to contradict yourself or catch you out on a lie to discredit you with the jury. The police do the same thing in interview, in the first interview, they encourage you to talk to gather information, then in the second interview they try to get you to contradict what you have already said. A barrister can put forward an alternative story, again to suggest the defence the accused is using is untrue. The defence barrister can object and it is for the judge to decide what is permitted and what is not. I am not sure that the way this trial is being shown would compare to a real trial, I think we must assume a certain amount of "poetic licence" is being used.

Son of Cain
07-12-2020, 10:46
She could cause Kevin to have an accident, injuring or killing her brother, too much Debbie

I hope Yasmeen does get off, I hate the smirk off Geoff but both actors are playing blinders in the storyline

I don't think we are sure whose car it is. It seemed that Debbie reached into the footwell and picked something up, altho' we could not see what it was. I cannot think of anything there that would cause an accident. In fact I cannot think of anything that would be there at all, as it could get under the pedals and cause a crash. Perhaps she had previously put a listening device there and was retrieving it. Suppose all will be made clear and we will have to wait and see what it was.

Perdita
07-12-2020, 20:14
Well, now we know it is Kevin's car and Debbie planted some foil to make Kev think Abi is back on drugs ... she is evil ...glad that this storyline will conclude soon too........

Son of Cain
07-12-2020, 20:19
Well, now we know it is Kevin's car and Debbie planted some foil to make Kev think Abi is back on drugs ... she is evil ...glad that this storyline will conclude soon too........

Clever! - I would never have guessed that.

lizann
07-12-2020, 20:43
good on imran hahaha geoff hope now he is arrested

was there always an old brewery on the street?

Snagglepus
07-12-2020, 22:06
I hope Elaine (Paula Wilcox) is around for a bit longer now she has a son and granddaughter on the street.
Corrie needs some decent actors.

parkerman
07-12-2020, 22:12
I know in the great scheme of things this is not very important but, as someone steeped in the tradition of Gilbert & Sullivan since the age of 4, I wish to take issue with Brian saying that he was due to play The Mikado as his days of playing Nanki Poo are long behind him.

The Mikado is a bass part; Nanki Poo is a tenor part. Your voice doesn't get deeper as you get older! Otherwise singers like Pavarotti, Domingo and Carreras would have been recording as The Three Basses!

lizann
08-12-2020, 01:16
good old danny barlow high on morals after he too sampled carla and was trying bethany while sinead dying

Perdita
08-12-2020, 04:13
good old danny barlow high on morals after he too sampled carla and was trying bethany while sinead dying

I agree to some point but Carla and he were free agents at the time, I think and he got Bethany confused with Sinead due to being upset and grieving

Son of Cain
08-12-2020, 07:27
good on imran hahaha geoff hope now he is arrested

was there always an old brewery on the street?
Was that the place that Pat Phelan and Vinny said they were turning into flats when they tried to scam people out of money? Where Michael Rodwell died?

Perdita
08-12-2020, 08:03
Was that the place that Pat Phelan and Vinny said they were turning into flats when they tried to scam people out of money? Where Michael Rodwell died?

Calcutta Street project, a youth centre would have been affected and Alex's film club venue if I remember rightly but I do not think they were on Coronation Street ...

Son of Cain
08-12-2020, 10:00
Calcutta Street project, a youth centre would have been affected and Alex's film club venue if I remember rightly but I do not think they were on Coronation Street ...

Yes, that was The Carter Warehouse. - Maps of Coronation Street show the Brewery as being behind the factory and the new new houses where David, Yasmeen and Sally live. Drawings show it as just being a building front with no interior behind it, in fact it's a a car parking space. It seems to have been there awhile but do not recall it being mentioned before. Is it suppose to be Newton and Ridley?

Jadefalcon
08-12-2020, 21:55
Was Geoff really so bloody deluded that he thought that Yasmeen would go home with him. Surely he can't be that arrogant/stupid?

lizann
08-12-2020, 23:51
I agree to some point but Carla and he were free agents at the time, I think and he got Bethany confused with Sinead due to being upset and grieving

he was after bethany while sinead was alive

Dennis tanner
09-12-2020, 14:38
Yes, that was The Carter Warehouse. - Maps of Coronation Street show the Brewery as being behind the factory and the new new houses where David, Yasmeen and Sally live. Drawings show it as just being a building front with no interior behind it, in fact it's a a car parking space. It seems to have been there awhile but do not recall it being mentioned before. Is it suppose to be Newton and Ridley?

When I visited the old Corrie site some years ago, The large building at the end of the street was the studios

Dennis tanner
09-12-2020, 14:41
For Geoff's demise I need to see serious time in thre chokey or a painful death.

Will Leanne be getting a job. I take it that she never used her own money to pay for the legal case

swmc66
09-12-2020, 20:29
I knew this was what they planned makes it easier re property etc to kill him off

Son of Cain
09-12-2020, 20:29
Hoping Geoff is not dead yet and the chickens finish him off by pecking him to death in revenge for Charlotte.

Jadefalcon
09-12-2020, 21:22
I haven't seen tonights episode but surely Yasmeen can get a restraining order or whatever its called here on Geoff that he can be charged if he harasses her.

Also, I'd like to know how Geoff can fly to Cyprus in the midst of Covid.

Snagglepus
09-12-2020, 21:36
Strange that Yasmeen ran upstairs to get away from the fire.
Why do people who are locked in never think of smashing the windows to get attention?

lizann
09-12-2020, 22:29
60 years and we get roof top silly action, arresting geoff would have been better

is tyrone, eileen, audrey, maria, kirk, ches and fiz not worried about the street demolition, abi is very worried and she has only been there a short time

parkerman
09-12-2020, 23:29
I haven't seen tonights episode.

That's your good fortune.

Jadefalcon
10-12-2020, 01:04
is tyrone, eileen, audrey, maria, kirk, ches and fiz not worried about the street demolition, abi is very worried and she has only been there a short time

As to Audrey, you saw her reaction a week or two ago, she couldn't give a damn.

Dennis tanner
10-12-2020, 02:37
I haven't seen tonights episode but surely Yasmeen can get a restraining order or whatever its called here on Geoff that he can be charged if he harasses her.

Also, I'd like to know how Geoff can fly to Cyprus in the midst of Covid.

Any Police action would have been like a slap on the wrist

Perdita
10-12-2020, 04:39
I knew this was what they planned makes it easier re property etc to kill him off

Pathetic ....

Son of Cain
10-12-2020, 10:18
As to Audrey, you saw her reaction a week or two ago, she couldn't give a damn.

Not only does she not give a damn she is selling.

LouiseP
10-12-2020, 11:51
Not only does she not give a damn she is selling.

Plus she has a very nice semi on Grasmere Drive which she miraculously travels to and from twice a day with no space to park a car in the Street. At least, we never see any cars.

Why would she care ? LOL. She'll have the money and she can retire or is she already retired ?

lizann
10-12-2020, 12:36
adam and debbie confessed too fast and easy

Dennis tanner
10-12-2020, 12:53
adam and debbie confessed too fast and easy

In the script !!!!

parkerman
10-12-2020, 15:28
adam and debbie confessed too fast and easy

I can understand why Adam confessed. He had no choice really with Peter going for Daniel.

Debbie, yes, I agree. It was far too easy. There was no proof. She should have just denied it.

Jadefalcon
10-12-2020, 19:47
I hope Geoff isn't dead, not because I feel sorry for him, but because I want him to face consequences. It would be nice if he was left totally paralysed, and was also charged with assault on Alya, harassing Yasmeen, Arson, and last but not least, theft from the Bistro.

lizann
10-12-2020, 20:27
does yasmeen know he robbed the house and her dead son's things

Dennis tanner
11-12-2020, 01:24
I hope Geoff isn't dead, not because I feel sorry for him, but because I want him to face consequences. It would be nice if he was left totally paralysed, and was also charged with assault on Alya, harassing Yasmeen, Arson, and last but not least, theft from the Bistro.

If Geoff is still alive he will accuse the two women of pushing him off the roof

lizann
11-12-2020, 01:25
i hope he is alive but i think interviews suggest he is dead

RogerOver
11-12-2020, 01:29
If Geoff is still alive he will accuse the two women of pushing him off the roof

Unless he ends up as a vegetable. Could be quite fitting after getting Yasmeen to eat her favourite pet chicken.

Son of Cain
11-12-2020, 11:01
Any Police action would have been like a slap on the wrist

Surely the judge should have ordered the police to arrest him for witness tampering and threatening Elaine. He also committed perjury which is a very serious offence. It is obvious the production team wanted to create a clean ending to him so as not to have write about the saga of joint ownership of the house and Speed Dahl. Wonder if Tim will inherit his share of these?

Son of Cain
11-12-2020, 20:29
George Shuttleworth is going to be busy. - Geoff - Adam ? - Peter, soon, either drink or freeze to death.

Snagglepus
11-12-2020, 20:39
,,,and who's going to get the blame for Adam?

parkerman
11-12-2020, 20:51
,,,and who's going to get the blame for Adam?

Could be Bobby or Peter or Suki or Max....ooops, sorry, wrong whodunnit.....

lizann
11-12-2020, 20:58
,,,and who's going to get the blame for Adam?

is he dead? it was simon i think, carla back on the wine

emerald
11-12-2020, 21:44
The constant darkness was a bit annoying. I think it was meant to create a dramatic atmosphere but it was just confusing.
I didn't think Adam was dead but someone was in the Bistro with him so I don't think he had simply passed out from drinking. Let's hope the power is back on by Monday...

Dennis tanner
11-12-2020, 23:54
Alex Bain AKA Curly Simon Barlow is a terrible actor.

lizann
12-12-2020, 01:19
was adam the intended victim or ray, why did ray leave adam alone in his bistro also gary was calm with ray given faye's state, he should have decked him

cathy and ryan laughing at jiggle it geoff's death

Dennis tanner
12-12-2020, 11:45
was adam the intended victim or ray, why did ray leave adam alone in his bistro also gary was calm with ray given faye's state, he should have decked him

cathy and ryan laughing at jiggle it geoff's death

I can imagine Windass decking anyone

RogerOver
12-12-2020, 14:47
Adam while talking to Sarah, said, "I've got the Bistro to myself tonight. Wine, chips, music."
Chips - I'm guessing he meant crisps? Do they use the American word in the UK now?

parkerman
12-12-2020, 15:15
Adam while talking to Sarah, said, "I've got the Bistro to myself tonight. Wine, chips, music."
Chips - I'm guessing he meant crisps? Do they use the American word in the UK now?

You forget, Roger. Weatherfield is not in the U.K. it has its own legal system, its own local councils, its own NHS and now its own language.

Perdita
12-12-2020, 17:14
Adam while talking to Sarah, said, "I've got the Bistro to myself tonight. Wine, chips, music."
Chips - I'm guessing he meant crisps? Do they use the American word in the UK now?

Maybe he knows how to operate a deep fat fryer?

Jadefalcon
12-12-2020, 17:38
He could have meant Tortilla Chips, they get called that even if they are a sort of crisp.

I really don't want yet another long drawn out story of Peter boozing. Then again, if the hospital is right, it wouldnt be long and drawn out, it would be very short.

parkerman
12-12-2020, 19:16
Maybe he knows how to operate a deep fat fryer?

Pretty good if he can manage that during a power cut!

lizann
12-12-2020, 20:40
Adam while talking to Sarah, said, "I've got the Bistro to myself tonight. Wine, chips, music."
Chips - I'm guessing he meant crisps? Do they use the American word in the UK now?

did he also sing spice girls want you really really want :p

Jadefalcon
12-12-2020, 20:59
did he also sing spice girls want you really really want :p

Yes he did, hence why Sarah rightfully seemed to threaten him with bodily harm. :D

lizann
12-12-2020, 22:07
sarah should have punched carla after all she was pushing them back together then sleeps with him

thin space man
13-12-2020, 00:26
Adam while talking to Sarah, said, "I've got the Bistro to myself tonight. Wine, chips, music."
Chips - I'm guessing he meant crisps? Do they use the American word in the UK now?

I thought he was eating actual fried chips (and was laid out on the floor amongst them at the end?)

RogerOver
13-12-2020, 01:09
I thought he was eating actual fried chips (and was laid out on the floor amongst them at the end?)

You're absolutely right.
I had another look and the last scene with Adam (for a fraction of a second) shows a carton on the bar, labelled 'Traditional Fish & Chips'
Well spotted.
I had just assumed Adam was referring to a bowl of crisps as bar snacks, using the American name.

Perdita
13-12-2020, 08:30
Pretty good if he can manage that during a power cut!

There was still so much light in the Bistro when Ray and Fay were talking I forgot there was meant to be a power cut :p

Son of Cain
13-12-2020, 08:44
Ken's "Tankman" speech was a bit OTT.

Funny how all the lights did not all go out at the same tim?.

Yasmeen did not try to switch her lights on until after the power cut, then started to look for batteries even though her torch was working fine.

How were the fairy lights round the protesters camp still lit?

Was Abi arrested for smashing the junction box?

Alya hit in the face with a metal cash box but no sign of blood? Geoff picked it up by the handle on top of it but it did not open when he swung it at her?

Does Geoff smoke, I don't remember seeing him, wondering why he carries a lighter. Did the fire just go out by itself? Why on earth did he knock the smoke alarm off the wall?

parkerman
13-12-2020, 09:00
Funny how all the lights did not all go out at the same time?.


Yes, exactly what I thought.

Son of Cain
13-12-2020, 09:49
On Wednesday Rita used the word "Cludgie" while speaking to Audrey in The Rovers. I haven't heard this word since I was a child in Glasgow, I had forgotten it existed. I always thought it was a Scotish word, but it must also be used in the North of England.

Snagglepus
14-12-2020, 20:59
What has suddenly happened to Tim, has he regressed back to his childhood?

emerald
14-12-2020, 22:06
What has suddenly happened to Tim, has he regressed back to his childhood?

It reminded me of that episode of the Simpsons where Homer is re-united with his mother and reverts to being a child again...

parkerman
14-12-2020, 22:09
I think I am suffering from deja vu. Hit over the head in a bar, critical condition, bleed on the brain, whodunnit - everybody guilty. Personally I think it could have been Bobby or Ben or Stuart or Suki or Tina.......oh, hang on a minute......

emerald
14-12-2020, 22:11
I think I am suffering from deja vu. Hit over the head in a bar, critical condition, bleed on the brain, whodunnit - everybody guilty. Personally I think it could have been Bobby or Ben or Stuart or Suki or Tina.......oh, hang on a minute......

And then there's Carla tampering with evidence by cleaning Peter's t-shirt, the same way she tried to throw out Roy's anorak after he accidentally set fire to Peter's boat.. She never learns, does she?

Son of Cain
15-12-2020, 07:56
And then there's Carla tampering with evidence by cleaning Peter's t-shirt, the same way she tried to throw out Roy's anorak after he accidentally set fire to Peter's boat.. She never learns, does she?

Why pour bleach on it and then put it in the bin outside the factory where it can be found (likely to be found). She should have wrapped it round a brick and threw it in the canal.