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Son of Cain
06-07-2024, 16:37
are you kidding as his jacket and bag are the epitome of style , roy cropper fashion icon
There are some people who are beyond fashion.
Dennis tanner
06-07-2024, 20:22
In my opinion Roy needs to start shaving again soon. As beards go, that is not a good beard, maybe if keeping it, give it a trim.
A neatly trimmed beard is an excellent idea.
He may well opt for this when he gets an apology from the Undead Lauren very soon
A neatly trimmed beard is an excellent idea.
He may well opt for this when he gets an apology from the Undead Lauren very soon
You mean from DS Swain.
Dennis tanner
08-07-2024, 17:51
You mean from DS Swain.
Not according to what I have read about upcoming episodes
did returning lauren cause roy's heart attack and call the ambulance
Dennis tanner
09-07-2024, 23:07
did returning lauren cause roy's heart attack and call the ambulance
No. That was the bad boys who threatened him.
parkerman
09-07-2024, 23:08
did returning lauren cause roy's heart attack and call the ambulance
I'm sure it was explained and I've just missed it, but how did Joel know that Lauren was at the hospital?
Dennis tanner
10-07-2024, 01:36
I'm sure it was explained and I've just missed it, but how did Joel know that Lauren was at the hospital?
Good question and the only possible answer is that the Corrie director told him to be there
Son of Cain
10-07-2024, 09:58
I'm sure it was explained and I've just missed it, but how did Joel know that Lauren was at the hospital?
He didn't, it was just luck, good for him, bad for Lauren. - Dee Dee asked him to take Roy's bag to hospital, and when he was handing it to Nina he saw a hooded figure in the corridor going through a door. After looking thoughtful I presume he recognized it as Lauren. Wondering if Sarah and Britney (meant to say Bethany here) should have done the same, maybe they were not thoughtful enough.
He didn't, it was just luck, good for him, bad for Lauren. - Dee Dee asked him to take Roy's bag to hospital, and when he was handing it to Nina he saw a hooded figure in the corridor going through a door. After looking thoughtful I presume he recognized it as Lauren. Wondering if Sarah and Britney should have done the same, maybe they were not thoughtful enough.
You mean Bethany??? Not seen the last couple of episodes so not sure if there is a new character...
Son of Cain
10-07-2024, 18:06
You mean Bethany??? Not seen the last couple of episodes so not sure if there is a new character...
Yes, I did mean Bethany, who is Britney? Was I thinking of Eastenders
mysangry
12-07-2024, 20:19
Joel was in Laurens flat, he knocks her out, and still remembers to grab "the Chain necklace"
He stuffs it in a pink drawstring bag.
Legs it out of the apartment, and the chain appears to fall out of his jacket onto the car floor.
Question, why did he put it in the bag, and leave the bag (sorry 2 questions)
how did the chain magically get to Joel's jacket...
Is Joel the next Paul Daniels .🤣
joel battered pregnant lauren but she got away yet blood got splattered on the flat and she let roy go to prison
parkerman
12-07-2024, 23:13
Joel was in Laurens flat, he knocks her out, and still remembers to grab "the Chain necklace"
He stuffs it in a pink drawstring bag.
Legs it out of the apartment, and the chain appears to fall out of his jacket onto the car floor.
Question, why did he put it in the bag, and leave the bag (sorry 2 questions)
how did the chain magically get to Joel's jacket...
Is Joel the next Paul Daniels .🤣
The answer to all these questions is, This is Corrie we're talking about. Enough said!
bratface
12-07-2024, 23:33
Not getting notifications again. This site is so weird.
Dennis tanner
12-07-2024, 23:36
joel battered pregnant lauren but she got away yet blood got splattered on the flat and she let roy go to prison
Lauren is claiming that she didn't know Roy was being blamed.
Lauren is claiming that she didn't know Roy was being blamed.
where was she, alaska alone, no access to english tv and papers
it was all over tv and medias
Son of Cain
13-07-2024, 07:49
Not getting notifications again. This site is so weird.
I did not see any new posts since Wednesday, only got them this morning, (Saturday).
parkerman
13-07-2024, 09:01
where was she, alaska alone, no access to english tv and papers
it was all over tv and medias
As she left with no money, presumably she was living rough. No TV and no papers.
As she left with no money, presumably she was living rough. No TV and no papers.
Did not look as if she had lived rough... but again, how did she know Roy was in hospital? How did Joel know she was visiting him?? Very convenient that the family room was vacant....
Son of Cain
13-07-2024, 09:37
Did not look as if she had lived rough... but again, how did she know Roy was in hospital? How did Joel know she was visiting him?? Very convenient that the family room was vacant....
Soap characters frequently walk out on their lives with nothing but the clothes they are wearing and survive, Ian Beale in Eastenders, for example. Oh, that it was so easy in real life. - She probably saw the post that the boys who confronted Roy posted, showing him being put in the ambulance. Joel did not know she was visiting, he was just lucky to be there when she was.
I wonder if this was the story all along, or did they decide to resurrect Lauren more recently. It seemed that Joel hit her pretty hard, so she is very lucky to have survived relatively unscathed.
Anyway at least the mystery of who would leave a bacon sandwich uneaten has been solved.
Dennis tanner
14-07-2024, 03:38
Soap characters frequently walk out on their lives with nothing but the clothes they are wearing and survive, Ian Beale in Eastenders, for example. Oh, that it was so easy in real life. - She probably saw the post that the boys who confronted Roy posted, showing him being put in the ambulance. Joel did not know she was visiting, he was just lucky to be there when she was.
I wonder if this was the story all along, or did they decide to resurrect Lauren more recently. It seemed that Joel hit her pretty hard, so she is very lucky to have survived relatively unscathed.
Anyway at least the mystery of who would leave a bacon sandwich uneaten has been solved. But what about all that money under her mattress ?
Son of Cain
14-07-2024, 10:50
Joel was in Laurens flat, he knocks her out, and still remembers to grab "the Chain necklace"
He stuffs it in a pink drawstring bag.
Legs it out of the apartment, and the chain appears to fall out of his jacket onto the car floor.
Question, why did he put it in the bag, and leave the bag (sorry 2 questions)
how did the chain magically get to Joel's jacket...
Is Joel the next Paul Daniels .🤣
I do not think we actually saw him put the necklace in the bag. We saw him pick it up, then the camera cut away to a shot of the top part of his legs crossing the room to the pink bag. It is possible we saw a glimpse of him putting it in his pocket, but the image was brief and blurred, so I am not sure if we saw this happen. We then saw him rummaging in the pink bag, but I do not think we actually saw him put it in the bag.
What puzzles me is we saw him pick up the necklace with his right hand and I think put it in his right hand pocket, yet when it fell out in the car it looked it fell out on his left side, between the seats.
lauren had plenty time to go to the police on joel, ridiculous storyline
lauren had plenty time to go to the police on joel, ridiculous storyline
Certainly after he bashed her... did she go and get herself checked out at a doctor or hospital at all? The way Joel laid into her I expected her to have permanent injuries...
Certainly after he bashed her... did she go and get herself checked out at a doctor or hospital at all? The way Joel laid into her I expected her to have permanent injuries...
is she having pregnancy check ups, scans? she should have head injury
Dennis tanner
15-07-2024, 20:09
is she having pregnancy check ups, scans? she should have head injury
I suspect she was checked over by Dr Gaddas before being allowed to run away.
I suspect she was checked over by Dr Gaddas before being allowed to run away.
you'd think doc gaddas would have informed the police
Son of Cain
15-07-2024, 22:01
Certainly after he bashed her... did she go and get herself checked out at a doctor or hospital at all? The way Joel laid into her I expected her to have permanent injuries...
I expected her to be dead. Joel needs to go to the gym more, if he could not finish of a defenceless girl with a chair leg.
parkerman
15-07-2024, 22:34
you'd think doc gaddas would have informed the police
I think that was a cynical joke, lizann!
Dennis tanner
16-07-2024, 00:20
you'd think doc gaddas would have informed the police
Doctors aren't allowed to.
bratface
16-07-2024, 00:46
Doctors aren't allowed to.
Aren't they required to report abuse in the UK?
Had trouble accessing the site again today (yesterday too).
Dennis tanner
16-07-2024, 01:13
Aren't they required to report abuse in the UK?
Had trouble accessing the site again today (yesterday too).
Appointments with Doctors are confidential. They can refer your case to others with your permission.
I guess if it was not for co-incidents there would not be any storylines but they are rather tedious ..... people lurking about to catch other folk having a conversation or a cyclist being knocked off his bike...
Son of Cain
16-07-2024, 08:07
Appointments with Doctors are confidential. They can refer your case to others with your permission.
Or if it is in the public interest, though I am not sure how this would be decided.
parkerman
16-07-2024, 08:15
I guess if it was not for co-incidents there would not be any storylines but they are rather tedious ..... people lurking about to catch other folk having a conversation or a cyclist being knocked off his bike...
I've had so many coincidence meters explode over the last dozen or so episodes of Corrie that I've decided not to buy any more!
Son of Cain
16-07-2024, 13:57
Sometimes you have to question Sarah's sanity. She finds her flat has been broken into, she thinks they might still be there, she tells Nick she is going to get out. So what does she do? She goes into the flat, instead of calling the police. Good judgement or what?
Do all soap characters have a crowbar? How many times do we see them produce one at short notice? How many ordinary people actually have one in their home?
Son of Cain
16-07-2024, 13:59
What is Detective Kit up to with PC Tinker?
Aren't they required to report abuse in the UK?
Had trouble accessing the site again today (yesterday too).
every day there is site issues, it can be down
every day there is site issues, it can be down
Is there anything that can be done to resolve this?
Son of Cain
16-07-2024, 18:19
Is there anything that can be done to resolve this?
Every day I have problems, several times a day.
I get the message: This Page is not working.
www.Soapboards.co.uk is unable to handle this request
HTTP Error 503
Is this what others are seeing.
This on top of the isual problems I have, of having to log-in every time I visit, post, thank or change page.
It is hard work, this site.
Every day I have problems, several times a day.
I get the message: This Page is not working.
www.Soapboards.co.uk is unable to handle this request
HTTP Error 503
Is this what others are seeing.
This on top of the isual problems I have, of having to log-in every time I visit, post, thank or change page.
It is hard work, this site.
yes same, heard nothing from norman about it
bratface
16-07-2024, 18:50
Is there anything that can be done to resolve this?
They could update or get BETTER servers?
Dennis tanner
17-07-2024, 02:25
What is Detective Kit up to with PC Tinker?
He wants him to be his creature
Dennis tanner
17-07-2024, 02:26
Sometimes you have to question Sarah's sanity. She finds her flat has been broken into, she thinks they might still be there, she tells Nick she is going to get out. So what does she do? She goes into the flat, instead of calling the police. Good judgement or what?
Do all soap characters have a crowbar? How many times do we see them produce one at short notice? How many ordinary people actually have one in their home?
Some soap characters have baseball bats but never play baseball
Every day I have problems, several times a day.
I get the message: This Page is not working.
www.Soapboards.co.uk is unable to handle this request
HTTP Error 503
Is this what others are seeing.
This on top of the isual problems I have, of having to log-in every time I visit, post, thank or change page.
It is hard work, this site.
I get the HTTP Error 503 message every day, touch wood, not the log in problems you have, think I had it once since the server problems started.
parkerman
17-07-2024, 21:21
I find it strange that Brian had some random customer's landlord's number on his phone.
Dennis tanner
17-07-2024, 22:55
I find it strange that Brian had some random customer's landlord's number on his phone.
One of many who complain about the papers not being delivered.
parkerman
17-07-2024, 23:21
I think I am about to get very irritated by the way this Joel/Lauren story is going. It is a microcosm of Corrie with the number of coincidences and fortunate circumstances just happening in this one storyline.
bratface
18-07-2024, 00:01
I think I am about to get very irritated by the way this Joel/Lauren story is going. It is a microcosm of Corrie with the number of coincidences and fortunate circumstances just happening in this one storyline.
Here is an opinion by a regular poster (midnightmitchell2019) on the Corrie Street Reddit board (https://www.reddit.com/r/coronationstreet/comments/1e443xy/this_lauren_storyline_still_doesnt_add_up/):
This Lauren Storyline still doesn't add up
Warning: incredibly long post ahead, please grab a cuppa for your sanity
Last week saw Lauren?s return and, acting aside, there's elements within the episode that clash with the overall narrative.
The major issue: despite being a flashback episode, it explains essentially nothing.
Most of the episode is dedicated to showing Joel being an abusive rapist. While appropriately dark, this is an element of the story that didn?t actually need much clarification. Prior to this, the show already revealed he?d beat in Lauren?s nut and left her with a bleeding wound. Joel being horrific was established back in May and there?s nothing in this episode that offers any new revelation for their dynamic.
It?s about presenting Joel the abuser rather than Joel the boyfriend, yet it?s the latter that needed time and attention.
For example, take the reason for the initial phone call in October; Lauren wanting to pay back the rent money Joel gave her. Lauren tells Joel that she asked him for the money because he?s the only one that she could go to.
Before this, the only flashback scene is Joel and her in the police station and when going back to episodes in September 2023 the only scene between them is Lauren leaving the police station and them parting ways.
So given that: Why does Lauren say Joel is the ?only? one she can go to for help?
At this point, she?s encountered quite a few people on the Street that has went out of their way to help her, provide her with aid, offer her legitimate help, etc. Roy alone, back in September, was wanting to give her more. If the reason she decides against anyone on the Street is because she feels like a burden; that?s all well and good but the flashbacks don?t establish this.
They skip from the police station to Lauren apparently being already dependent on Joel?s help. More so, why would Lauren trust Joel anyway? When she was charged, he did offer her additional help but ? since she?s usually quite distrustful ? what made her feel Joel was a good option? There weren?t any special moments between them where he proved himself to be different than most. One interaction and then she?s immediately vulnerable with him.
What did Joel do to emotional and mentally isolate her? What did he do that convinced her that he?d be the only one to help or rather, that a professional solicitor like him would even help with something like this?
Considering this is meant to represent grooming, shouldn?t this process and how Joel manipulated her properly been included instead of skipping immediately to him being abusive? In a sense, Joel being able to turn Lauren?s mind is arguably the most important part of the storyline. Especially considering she?s someone that?s shown to be street wise and hard. If, in her mind, she didn?t want to be a burden to others, why be a burden to Joel, then?
What was it about Joel that made her immediately be taken in by him, shed her usual front, and completely believe he?d help in a way no one else would? Of course, it?s possible to come up with reasons, but considering this was a flashback episode that was meant to explain the relationship the viewer shouldn?t need to fill in the blanks or construct the foundation for the story on their own.
With that, it essentially breaks an accepted writing rule of telling rather than showing. It doesn?t accurately showcase how Joel broke Lauren down, its simply stated in the conversation between the two, on one hand ruining the impact, and on the other taking away any sort of actual valuable information to be gained from the show portraying grooming; there?s no signs to spot and nothing to take away.
This leads into a large problem?the episode doesn?t really fit with what was shown onscreen.
Back in January, Lauren calls Joel and breaks up with him. The phone conversation includes her feeling underappreciated and disrespected, remarking that her mates think Joel doesn?t exist and she finds that upsetting with ? based on her response ? Joel responding that it isn?t his problem. She then says she wants to be treated like a ?normal girlfriend.?
With that in mind: why would Lauren think that Joel would ever do this? Ignoring the abuse for a minute, Joel is with Dee Dee. Why would Joel go out with Lauren on his arm when he?s in a relationship? Why would Lauren think that Joel, a thirty-year-old solicitor, would want to meet up with her mates? Better, why would Lauren believe that Max and Sabrina would accept someone like Joel being her boyfriend?
While it?s easy to say Lauren was simply gaslit by Joel into believing she was meant to really be his girlfriend and what he?s doing is fine, this isn?t supported by the flashbacks. In the flashbacks, as early as the first time the viewer sees Joel sleep with her, Lauren is uncomfortable, disturbed, and upset. This continues and at no point is Lauren taken in by Joel, instead she seems increasing more disgusted by him. By the time he?s putting the necklace around her (which she received back in December), she?s in tears just by his touch alone.
The flashbacks show that Lauren is not with Joel because she believes he?s a good boyfriend, and they also show that she isn?t taken in by his actions; she knows this is wrong but feels stuck because of her finances.
This creates an issue with the idea that she would then both believe Joel would want to treat her like a regular girlfriend and that Joel meeting her mates would be a good idea.
Worse: going by the flashbacks, the episode conveniently ignores the January conversation.
Notice how it jumps from the necklace (December) to Lauren having the bruises Bobby found (February). This gives a suggestion that there were no ideas on how to reconcile both the conversation in January - and the gap of time where Joel apparently leaves her alone entirely (17th January up to the 15th February) ? so the writers decided to shrug it off and pretend in doesn?t exist.
This extends to other details as well.
Somehow, of all the elements to leave out, the show decided to ignore how Lauren, having had her nut caved in by several hits to the back of her skull managed to get out of the flat and survive with, apparently, no need for proper medical attention. She is then homeless, but, despite all this, can successfully sustain a pregnancy.
More so, a large part of the Roy imprisonment storyline was the internet sleuths. Combined with this was several public statements regarding Lauren?s disappearance and murder.
In total there were: missing posters, numerous online posts by the sleuths, an in-person and live streamed public vigil, online posts from her mates, and an official police reconstruction.
Yet, through all this publicity Lauren still managed to stay under the radar. It?s not so much that it?s unbelievable she wasn?t noticed; rather why was there so many public appeals included if it wasn?t going to be used as a checkov?s gun?
Instead of having Lauren randomly pop up at Roy?s hospital bed, why not have one of those public statements lead to a sighting?
Consider the messages to Lauren as well. Back in May, Dee Dee receives messages from Ovidz that contain a client of Lauren?s being threatening to her.
Now, on one hand there?s already a continuity issue. Back in February, Lauren reveals to Max and Sabrina that she?s on Ovidz. Around two weeks later, Max and Bobby look into Lauren?s Ovidz accounts and Max states that Lauren just created the account when he found out (in February) so there?s nothing on it.
If that?s the case who was subscribing to her? Were they subscribing to an entirely empty account?
Ignoring this for a second, apparently, the messages Dee Dee got were written with grammar similar to Roy (how she didn?t notice semicolons and commas and genuinely thought the messages were completely unlike Roy is another mystery). In his texts to Betsy, the show specifically makes a point of showing that Joel texts with very precise punctuation and proper grammar.
However, in the flashbacks Ovidz doesn?t come up. Clearly Lauren didn?t meet Joel on Ovidz, so its easy to suspect that the messages were simply from an upset client. However, if that?s the case, why show Joel?s grammar and present that as a [new] piece of evidence for the audience?
What actually happened to Ovidz and Lauren?s relationship to it in general?
Additionally, one of the pieces of evidence that Swain uses against Roy is the used condom wrapper.
One question is how it made its way underneath the blanket on the sofa, but more so each time that Joel sexually assaults Lauren its shown that he?s dressed as normal. So how were there no prints ? or rather not even the suggestion of any other prints ? on it? It wouldn?t have been cleaned (unless Lauren took the wrapper, washed it, then stuck it under the blanket) so something should have been left on there.
The only time Joel is shown to be using gloves is the day he brains her, but it?s clear that he doesn?t rape her that day. The implication then is that Joel bought the packet of condoms, took one condom out, put that in his wallet, took it out of his wallet, opened it, then disposed of it under the blanket all with gloves on?
Had the wrapper been found by Roy, binned, and never seen again it would be easy to pass it off as something used at some point and it was only shown to prove that Lauren was sleeping with someone. However, to have it resurface during the interviews with Roy makes it part of the investigation and it?s awkward to not then bring that up.
There?s pieces of the story simply unused or thrown out, making it questionable as to why they were added in to begin with. It?s as though SO much was placed into the storyline that writers weren?t sure how to properly use each piece and decided to cherry pick what they wanted to run with.
It?s not necessarily a major sin on its own, but it showcases a lack of planning for the storytelling.
On top of all this, there are some continuity issues.
In the flashbacks, Lauren moves into Evelyn?s flat and tells Joel something along the lines of, ?I thought I was going to be charged yesterday.?
However, back in the 11th September episode (when she gets the flat), Lauren states that Roy paid for a B&B for two nights [after she was charged], so really she wasn?t going to be charged ?yesterday,? it would have been two days ago. Does it matter? Not really, but it shows a lack of attention to detail.
Ultimately, it just seems like this story had no clear direction and was completely about throwing whatever they could come up with in the moment at the screen.
The episode spends about thirty minutes on flashback, but every flashback is the same as the previous?Joel being a *******.
It doesn?t truly get into any details about grooming. It doesn?t show the real process that Joel used to groom her (or rather no more than a two-minute internet article would). It doesn?t truly provide anything about Lauren?s mental state at the time or, more importantly, anything new that the viewer didn?t already know. The whole episode is a restatement of Lauren having been abused. Nothing fresh or creative on that.
For a storyline that is meant to be ?blockbuster,? it fails at creating any real sense of progression, depth, or proper exploration. All the story amounts to is repeated scenes of violence with tropes instead of themes, and shock instead of mature storytelling.
The old Carla would never have let anyone blackmail her... wtf have they done with her character???
Dennis tanner
18-07-2024, 06:28
Here is an opinion by a regular poster (midnightmitchell2019) on the Corrie Street Reddit board (https://www.reddit.com/r/coronationstreet/comments/1e443xy/this_lauren_storyline_still_doesnt_add_up/):
This Lauren Storyline still doesn't add up
Warning: incredibly long post ahead, please grab a cuppa for your sanity
Last week saw Lauren?s return and, acting aside, there's elements within the episode that clash with the overall narrative.
The major issue: despite being a flashback episode, it explains essentially nothing.
Most of the episode is dedicated to showing Joel being an abusive rapist. While appropriately dark, this is an element of the story that didn?t actually need much clarification. Prior to this, the show already revealed he?d beat in Lauren?s nut and left her with a bleeding wound. Joel being horrific was established back in May and there?s nothing in this episode that offers any new revelation for their dynamic.
It?s about presenting Joel the abuser rather than Joel the boyfriend, yet it?s the latter that needed time and attention.
For example, take the reason for the initial phone call in October; Lauren wanting to pay back the rent money Joel gave her. Lauren tells Joel that she asked him for the money because he?s the only one that she could go to.
Before this, the only flashback scene is Joel and her in the police station and when going back to episodes in September 2023 the only scene between them is Lauren leaving the police station and them parting ways.
So given that: Why does Lauren say Joel is the ?only? one she can go to for help?
At this point, she?s encountered quite a few people on the Street that has went out of their way to help her, provide her with aid, offer her legitimate help, etc. Roy alone, back in September, was wanting to give her more. If the reason she decides against anyone on the Street is because she feels like a burden; that?s all well and good but the flashbacks don?t establish this.
They skip from the police station to Lauren apparently being already dependent on Joel?s help. More so, why would Lauren trust Joel anyway? When she was charged, he did offer her additional help but ? since she?s usually quite distrustful ? what made her feel Joel was a good option? There weren?t any special moments between them where he proved himself to be different than most. One interaction and then she?s immediately vulnerable with him.
What did Joel do to emotional and mentally isolate her? What did he do that convinced her that he?d be the only one to help or rather, that a professional solicitor like him would even help with something like this?
Considering this is meant to represent grooming, shouldn?t this process and how Joel manipulated her properly been included instead of skipping immediately to him being abusive? In a sense, Joel being able to turn Lauren?s mind is arguably the most important part of the storyline. Especially considering she?s someone that?s shown to be street wise and hard. If, in her mind, she didn?t want to be a burden to others, why be a burden to Joel, then?
What was it about Joel that made her immediately be taken in by him, shed her usual front, and completely believe he?d help in a way no one else would? Of course, it?s possible to come up with reasons, but considering this was a flashback episode that was meant to explain the relationship the viewer shouldn?t need to fill in the blanks or construct the foundation for the story on their own.
With that, it essentially breaks an accepted writing rule of telling rather than showing. It doesn?t accurately showcase how Joel broke Lauren down, its simply stated in the conversation between the two, on one hand ruining the impact, and on the other taking away any sort of actual valuable information to be gained from the show portraying grooming; there?s no signs to spot and nothing to take away.
This leads into a large problem?the episode doesn?t really fit with what was shown onscreen.
Back in January, Lauren calls Joel and breaks up with him. The phone conversation includes her feeling underappreciated and disrespected, remarking that her mates think Joel doesn?t exist and she finds that upsetting with ? based on her response ? Joel responding that it isn?t his problem. She then says she wants to be treated like a ?normal girlfriend.?
With that in mind: why would Lauren think that Joel would ever do this? Ignoring the abuse for a minute, Joel is with Dee Dee. Why would Joel go out with Lauren on his arm when he?s in a relationship? Why would Lauren think that Joel, a thirty-year-old solicitor, would want to meet up with her mates? Better, why would Lauren believe that Max and Sabrina would accept someone like Joel being her boyfriend?
While it?s easy to say Lauren was simply gaslit by Joel into believing she was meant to really be his girlfriend and what he?s doing is fine, this isn?t supported by the flashbacks. In the flashbacks, as early as the first time the viewer sees Joel sleep with her, Lauren is uncomfortable, disturbed, and upset. This continues and at no point is Lauren taken in by Joel, instead she seems increasing more disgusted by him. By the time he?s putting the necklace around her (which she received back in December), she?s in tears just by his touch alone.
The flashbacks show that Lauren is not with Joel because she believes he?s a good boyfriend, and they also show that she isn?t taken in by his actions; she knows this is wrong but feels stuck because of her finances.
This creates an issue with the idea that she would then both believe Joel would want to treat her like a regular girlfriend and that Joel meeting her mates would be a good idea.
Worse: going by the flashbacks, the episode conveniently ignores the January conversation.
Notice how it jumps from the necklace (December) to Lauren having the bruises Bobby found (February). This gives a suggestion that there were no ideas on how to reconcile both the conversation in January - and the gap of time where Joel apparently leaves her alone entirely (17th January up to the 15th February) ? so the writers decided to shrug it off and pretend in doesn?t exist.
This extends to other details as well.
Somehow, of all the elements to leave out, the show decided to ignore how Lauren, having had her nut caved in by several hits to the back of her skull managed to get out of the flat and survive with, apparently, no need for proper medical attention. She is then homeless, but, despite all this, can successfully sustain a pregnancy.
More so, a large part of the Roy imprisonment storyline was the internet sleuths. Combined with this was several public statements regarding Lauren?s disappearance and murder.
In total there were: missing posters, numerous online posts by the sleuths, an in-person and live streamed public vigil, online posts from her mates, and an official police reconstruction.
Yet, through all this publicity Lauren still managed to stay under the radar. It?s not so much that it?s unbelievable she wasn?t noticed; rather why was there so many public appeals included if it wasn?t going to be used as a checkov?s gun?
Instead of having Lauren randomly pop up at Roy?s hospital bed, why not have one of those public statements lead to a sighting?
Consider the messages to Lauren as well. Back in May, Dee Dee receives messages from Ovidz that contain a client of Lauren?s being threatening to her.
Now, on one hand there?s already a continuity issue. Back in February, Lauren reveals to Max and Sabrina that she?s on Ovidz. Around two weeks later, Max and Bobby look into Lauren?s Ovidz accounts and Max states that Lauren just created the account when he found out (in February) so there?s nothing on it.
If that?s the case who was subscribing to her? Were they subscribing to an entirely empty account?
Ignoring this for a second, apparently, the messages Dee Dee got were written with grammar similar to Roy (how she didn?t notice semicolons and commas and genuinely thought the messages were completely unlike Roy is another mystery). In his texts to Betsy, the show specifically makes a point of showing that Joel texts with very precise punctuation and proper grammar.
However, in the flashbacks Ovidz doesn?t come up. Clearly Lauren didn?t meet Joel on Ovidz, so its easy to suspect that the messages were simply from an upset client. However, if that?s the case, why show Joel?s grammar and present that as a [new] piece of evidence for the audience?
What actually happened to Ovidz and Lauren?s relationship to it in general?
Additionally, one of the pieces of evidence that Swain uses against Roy is the used condom wrapper.
One question is how it made its way underneath the blanket on the sofa, but more so each time that Joel sexually assaults Lauren its shown that he?s dressed as normal. So how were there no prints ? or rather not even the suggestion of any other prints ? on it? It wouldn?t have been cleaned (unless Lauren took the wrapper, washed it, then stuck it under the blanket) so something should have been left on there.
The only time Joel is shown to be using gloves is the day he brains her, but it?s clear that he doesn?t rape her that day. The implication then is that Joel bought the packet of condoms, took one condom out, put that in his wallet, took it out of his wallet, opened it, then disposed of it under the blanket all with gloves on?
Had the wrapper been found by Roy, binned, and never seen again it would be easy to pass it off as something used at some point and it was only shown to prove that Lauren was sleeping with someone. However, to have it resurface during the interviews with Roy makes it part of the investigation and it?s awkward to not then bring that up.
There?s pieces of the story simply unused or thrown out, making it questionable as to why they were added in to begin with. It?s as though SO much was placed into the storyline that writers weren?t sure how to properly use each piece and decided to cherry pick what they wanted to run with.
It?s not necessarily a major sin on its own, but it showcases a lack of planning for the storytelling.
On top of all this, there are some continuity issues.
In the flashbacks, Lauren moves into Evelyn?s flat and tells Joel something along the lines of, ?I thought I was going to be charged yesterday.?
However, back in the 11th September episode (when she gets the flat), Lauren states that Roy paid for a B&B for two nights [after she was charged], so really she wasn?t going to be charged ?yesterday,? it would have been two days ago. Does it matter? Not really, but it shows a lack of attention to detail.
Ultimately, it just seems like this story had no clear direction and was completely about throwing whatever they could come up with in the moment at the screen.
The episode spends about thirty minutes on flashback, but every flashback is the same as the previous?Joel being a *******.
It doesn?t truly get into any details about grooming. It doesn?t show the real process that Joel used to groom her (or rather no more than a two-minute internet article would). It doesn?t truly provide anything about Lauren?s mental state at the time or, more importantly, anything new that the viewer didn?t already know. The whole episode is a restatement of Lauren having been abused. Nothing fresh or creative on that.
For a storyline that is meant to be ?blockbuster,? it fails at creating any real sense of progression, depth, or proper exploration. All the story amounts to is repeated scenes of violence with tropes instead of themes, and shock instead of mature storytelling.
The thing is, "Is Lauren still able to trust him enough to allow him to get off?"
parkerman
18-07-2024, 09:41
The thing is, "Is Lauren still able to trust him enough to allow him to get off?"
In real life: No
In Corrie: Yes
Dennis tanner
18-07-2024, 23:47
In real life: No
In Corrie: Yes
Unfortunately I agree with you
I think I am about to get very irritated by the way this Joel/Lauren story is going. It is a microcosm of Corrie with the number of coincidences and fortunate circumstances just happening in this one storyline.
just like stephen reid, joel is in very great places or overhears what he always needs
The old Carla would never have let anyone blackmail her... wtf have they done with her character???
she was also never maternal so why help swain
you'd think a solicitor like joel could handle blackmailing betsy who has nothing really on him, no evidence
lauren is safe now she could speak up about the flash rich boyfriend she was talking about to max and sabrina who was really joel
Dennis tanner
20-07-2024, 05:08
just like stephen reid, joel is in very great places or overhears what he always needs
It's just a lazy script
Son of Cain
20-07-2024, 07:48
lauren is safe now she could speak up about the flash rich boyfriend she was talking about to max and sabrina who was really joel
Better still, she could go to the police, she has plenty of evidence now. She must have scars on her head from Joel beating her on head with a chair leg. She is staying in Joel's flat, and when the baby is born it will have Joel's DNA.
Son of Cain
20-07-2024, 08:17
I have lost track of Chesney and Emma's homeless situation, they went after the flat that Brian told them about and someone beat them to it. Was it Kit? Will he come to their rescue?
parkerman
20-07-2024, 10:35
Better still, she could go to the police, she has plenty of evidence now. She must have scars on her head from Joel beating her on head with a chair leg. She is staying in Joel's flat, and when the baby is born it will have Joel's DNA.
I never thought I would be able to say this, but this storyline is even worse than the Stephen Reid one. Only the accent is missing.
Better still, she could go to the police, she has plenty of evidence now. She must have scars on her head from Joel beating her on head with a chair leg. She is staying in Joel's flat, and when the baby is born it will have Joel's DNA.
Scars on that beautiful head with not a hair out of place????
Son of Cain
21-07-2024, 07:15
Scars on that beautiful head with not a hair out of place????
Ah!, so it was a rubber chair leg?
Better still, she could go to the police, she has plenty of evidence now. She must have scars on her head from Joel beating her on head with a chair leg. She is staying in Joel's flat, and when the baby is born it will have Joel's DNA.
Could she prove any scars where inflicted by Joel with a chair leg???
Dennis tanner
21-07-2024, 18:52
Could she prove any scars where inflicted by Joel with a chair leg???
I reckon that Joel assaulted a shop dummy.
Son of Cain
21-07-2024, 20:04
Could she prove any scars where inflicted by Joel with a chair leg???
This alone would not be enough to convict him, as he would deny it. But when you add up all the evidence I think there is a pretty strong case. The police can analyse his phone data, which I think would put him in the vicinity, at the time of the attack. Also she is pregnant with his baby, and staying in his flat, even though he has not admitted to anyone, especially Dee-Dee, that he knows her, all very suspicious. Because his name has not come up, the police have not been looking for any evidence to connect him too the case, if Lauren told them about him, and they carried out a more concentrated search, I think they would start finding evidence against him.
parkerman
21-07-2024, 22:30
Because his name has not come up, the police have not been looking for any evidence to connect him too the case, if Lauren told them about him, and they carried out a more concentrated search, I think they would start finding evidence against him.
Any normal police force might, but this is the Corrie police we are talking about.
Dennis tanner
22-07-2024, 04:12
Any normal police force might, but this is the Corrie police we are talking about.
It's always the problem. We have no say in things
Son of Cain
24-07-2024, 21:13
Stu and Yasmeen saying they need to be careful with money, buying takeaway coffee in Roy's. When they have just left their restuarant, and within yards of their home, both places, where they could have all the free coffee they want.
When typing Yasmeen here, predictive typing came up with "He's keen".
dylan should the police about mason
debbie has some good one liners and her delivery like david is spot on, comic timing
parkerman
24-07-2024, 23:22
Stu and Yasmeen saying they need to be careful with money, buying takeaway coffee in Roy's. When they have just left their restuarant, and within yards of their home, both places, where they could have all the free coffee they want.
When typing Yasmeen here, predictive typing came up with "He's keen".
I have never understood why so many of the Street's inhabitants have their breakfast in Roy's, especially the owners of other local eateries.
parkerman
24-07-2024, 23:30
dylan should the police about mason
debbie has some good one liners and her delivery like david is spot on, comic timing
"Don't bleed on the upholstery, I've just had it done." was a classic.
im rooting for toyah and nick, never really been a fan of ben price nick but am "shipping" him and toyah now, leanne is totally insufferable
does mason not have to check with someone since his release as still a minor and not at home anymore?
i really could not care less about lauren, pregnant or not
Dennis tanner
25-07-2024, 04:36
dylan should the police about mason
debbie has some good one liners and her delivery like david is spot on, comic timing
Debbie is wonderful. Platt is just an obnoxious puny scrote
Son of Cain
25-07-2024, 16:12
Debbie is wonderful. Platt is just an obnoxious puny scrote
Debbie may well be wonderful, but David is a wiry, slightly built funny little guy. That is "funny" in the amusing sense, not strange or weird, although he a bit weird in a good way..
Again trying to post and getting error message.
Dennis tanner
26-07-2024, 00:21
Debbie may well be wonderful, but David is a wiry, slightly built funny little guy. That is "funny" in the amusing sense, not strange or weird, although he a bit weird in a good way..
Again trying to post and getting error message.
You can like him if you want to. I will be loathing him till I draw my last breath.
Son of Cain
26-07-2024, 19:19
You can like him if you want to. I will be loathing him till I draw my last breath.
I hope that will not be for a while yet, perhaps David will leave, and save your putting all that energy into loathing him.
mysangry
26-07-2024, 19:20
Debbie may well be wonderful, but David is a wiry, slightly built funny little guy. That is "funny" in the amusing sense, not strange or weird, although he a bit weird in a good way..
Again trying to post and getting error message.
I am ready for Stu to go, along with Yasmeen, she seems to struggle with her lines,
mysangry
26-07-2024, 19:22
Is this detective lady (Swain?) going to seduce Carla, she is always hanging round her, surely no mother would be as cloying when their child is at work.
Nah, bored.
parkerman
26-07-2024, 21:00
Well, they absolutely surpassed themselves with tonight's coincidence. The emperor of all coincidences.
Dennis tanner
27-07-2024, 06:12
I hope that will not be for a while yet, perhaps David will leave, and save your putting all that energy into loathing him.
I realise I am obsessed but I just can't help it.
How could he leave? Who else would want him ?
Son of Cain
27-07-2024, 07:28
I realise I am obsessed but I just can't help it.
How could he leave? Who else would want him ?
Acceptance is the first part of realizing your addiction.
I doubt he will leave, I was just trying to give you some hope.
Son of Cain
27-07-2024, 07:31
For a moment I was worried that Joseph or one of the quads might get a hold of that giant syringe full of drugs.
Well, they absolutely surpassed themselves with tonight's coincidence. The emperor of all coincidences.
yes where was bernie to mind the kids, she lives down the street with dev
Did Chesney bring his kids to Billy and Paul to stay the night??? They all walk in and Chez tells them to go straight to bed... ?'??????? What have I misunderstood???
Dennis tanner
27-07-2024, 18:12
Did Chesney bring his kids to Billy and Paul to stay the night??? They all walk in and Chez tells them to go straight to bed... ?'??????? What have I misunderstood???
Bishop Billy will be thinking that God sent Chesney to stop him killing Paul
Bishop Billy will be thinking that God sent Chesney to stop him killing Paul
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I found that part of the episode very emotional...It takes guts (desperation) to commit suicide, to aid a suicide takes guts too... I hope I will never be in either of this situation, I think all actors involved deserve an award for their acting...
Did Chesney bring his kids to Billy and Paul to stay the night??? They all walk in and Chez tells them to go straight to bed... ?'??????? What have I misunderstood???
yes because carys fell so gemma went to hospital with her and ches was following
yes because carys fell so gemma went to hospital with her and ches was following
Ffs. How convenient. Surely someone could have babysat even thought it was late or even Ches stay at home with them.
parkerman
29-07-2024, 09:15
Ffs. How convenient. Surely someone could have babysat even thought it was late or even Ches stay at home with them.
Absolutely. A hopelessly lazy writing device that really spoilt what was otherwise a very moving episode.
Ffs. How convenient. Surely someone could have babysat even thought it was late or even Ches stay at home with them.
Billy and Paul babysat... I had prepared myself to see Paul die.. now I have to go through all that again... :(
Ffs. How convenient. Surely someone could have babysat even thought it was late or even Ches stay at home with them.
yes fiz or bernie or even kit always now on the street
Dennis tanner
30-07-2024, 01:16
yes fiz or bernie or even kit always now on the street
God saved Apollo so he had to send Chesney
you'd think lauren would be more afraid of joel
Terrible character, could not care less about her, we know Joel will be found out but will she remain a resident of Weatherfield??? :thumbsdow:
Son of Cain
01-08-2024, 07:21
Terrible character, could not care less about her, we know Joel will be found out but will she remain a resident of Weatherfield??? :thumbsdow:
They really have turned Lauren into a very unpleasant character, her sense of entitlement is off the scale. She was so scared of Joel after he attacked her that she disappeared for months, and now she seems to have no fear of him, and deliberately antagonizes him. If we are suppose to sympathize with her, it is not working with me, I just want this story to end. Will there be a final twist, and the baby is not Joel's.
Snagglepus
01-08-2024, 09:53
She was so scared of Joel after he attacked her that she disappeared for months, and now she seems to have no fear of him, and deliberately antagonizes him.
She is threatening him with a post dated email to the police exposing what he has done.
Son of Cain
01-08-2024, 10:20
She is threatening him with a post dated email to the police exposing what he has done.
Thanks, forgot about that. Shows how interested I am in this story. Similarly Glenda and George's dispute, I cannot remember how that ended, if it has ended. Struggling with Abi's tale, Paul's MND story is the only one holding my interest at the moment. I find it difficult to stay engaged for an hour, easier with Emmerdale which is only half an hour.
Does Joel know where this email is set up, as he could cancel it after getting rid of her. I do not understand much about tech, will Lauren have keep changing the send date if the current situation continues to drag on?
Thanks, forgot about that. Shows how interested I am in this story. Similarly Glenda and George's dispute, I cannot remember how that ended, if it has ended. Struggling with Abi's tale, Paul's MND story is the only one holding my interest at the moment. I find it difficult to stay engaged for an hour, easier with Emmerdale which is only half an hour.
Does Joel know where this email is set up, as he could cancel it after getting rid of her. I do not understand much about tech, will Lauren have keep changing the send date if the current situation continues to drag on?
George and Glenda have kissed and made up... George kept the business and he gave her the house. You cannot change the send date once an email has gone, I think...... but am prepared to be educated on this. The other ongoing scenario is Abi, Kevin and Jack and the fake video business.... yawn fest... And why has Kit bought Chez and Gemma's home that is way too small for 2 adults and 5 kids??? Unless he plans to build an extension in the yard ...
Son of Cain
01-08-2024, 11:32
George and Glenda have kissed and made up... George kept the business and he gave her the house. You cannot change the send date once an email has gone, I think...... but am prepared to be educated on this. The other ongoing scenario is Abi, Kevin and Jack and the fake video business.... yawn fest... And why has Kit bought Chez and Gemma's home that is way too small for 2 adults and 5 kids??? Unless he plans to build an extension in the yard ...
It has not been sent yet, only goes if something happens to her before a certain date. But if the current situation continues to that date she will need to change the date or cancel it.
Never mind an extension, how about his own jail cell? I can think of a few I would put in it.
It has not been sent yet, only goes if something happens to her before a certain date. But if the current situation continues to that date she will need to change the date or cancel it.
Never mind an extension, how about his own jail cell? I can think of a few I would put in it.
So who will send the email when she can't do it??? I am even more confused now than I was before but that is nothing unusual :lol:
mysangry
01-08-2024, 13:28
i think kit is going to be the next villian, so he needs an excuse to stick around, just hope he's better at it than Joel, boriiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg
parkerman
01-08-2024, 16:15
So who will send the email when she can't do it??? I am even more confused now than I was before but that is nothing unusual :lol:
She doesn't need to do any more. The email is timed to go at a certain date. You can pre-set dates for emails to be sent. There's nothing more that needs to be done.
Son of Cain
01-08-2024, 16:16
So who will send the email when she can't do it??? I am even more confused now than I was before but that is nothing unusual :lol:
As I understand it, you can write an email but instead of sending it, you can select a time and date in the future, when it will be sent automatically. Marketing and media companies do this with mail shots. In Lauren's case she has set up a email to the police, telling them what Joel has done, which will automatically be sent if she is not around to cancel it. This means he cannot bump her off and explains why she is not afraid of him anymore. Presumably if she gets what she wants, and goes to Ireland, she can delete it and stop it being sent. On the other hand she could go to Ireland and still allow it to be sent, out of spite for revenge. Do not ask me how you do this I haven't got a --clue. I wonder if Max helped her with this, altho" I presume she did this when she was disappeared and not in contact with him. - Just let it end. I have no sympathy with any of them, not even De-Dee for being too naive and trusting. Well maybe a little for Dee-Dee.
parkerman
01-08-2024, 18:49
Do not ask me how you do this I haven't got a --clue. I wonder if Max helped her with this.
It's not difficult. Even I can do it at my advanced age! In fact I used the facility last Sunday. I'm sure it would be no problem to a youngster like Lauren.
Dennis tanner
02-08-2024, 02:19
As I understand it, you can write an email but instead of sending it, you can select a time and date in the future, when it will be sent automatically. Marketing and media companies do this with mail shots. In Lauren's case she has set up a email to the police, telling them what Joel has done, which will automatically be sent if she is not around to cancel it. This means he cannot bump her off and explains why she is not afraid of him anymore. Presumably if she gets what she wants, and goes to Ireland, she can delete it and stop it being sent. On the other hand she could go to Ireland and still allow it to be sent, out of spite for revenge. Do not ask me how you do this I haven't got a --clue. I wonder if Max helped her with this, altho" I presume she did this when she was disappeared and not in contact with him. - Just let it end. I have no sympathy with any of them, not even De-Dee for being too naive and trusting. Well maybe a little for Dee-Dee.
But if she was nicely set up in Ireland, why would she bother to cancel it?
Son of Cain
02-08-2024, 07:23
But if she was nicely set up in Ireland, why would she bother to cancel it?
Exactly - Revenge is a dish best served cold.
parkerman
02-08-2024, 23:14
Amazing coincidence that Bobby was sitting just in front of Joel in the pub when Max rang him about Lauren having the baby.
It's so unlike Corrie to have these amazing coincidences too.
On a related point, when is this tortuously boring Joel/Lauren storyline going to finish? My fast forward finger is beginning to twitch the way it did in the old Stephen days....
how far away is the precint, lucky lauren used a taxi app that max had on his phone and who paid the taxi with her bag and wallet stolen
park man these coincidences are getting way too many
Dennis tanner
03-08-2024, 06:37
Exactly - Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Lauren is too thick to come up with something complicated
Son of Cain
03-08-2024, 10:48
Amazing coincidence that Bobby was sitting just in front of Joel in the pub when Max rang him about Lauren having the baby.
It's so unlike Corrie to have these amazing coincidences too.
On a related point, when is this tortuously boring Joel/Lauren storyline going to finish? My fast forward finger is beginning to twitch the way it did in the old Stephen days....
I expect if you look closely, you will find a schedule, pinned to the wall, listing dates and times when characters will be disclosing important facts for others to hear. This will allow interested parties to get there early, so as not to miss anything.
Have you thought of wearing one of those rubber thimble used for turning pages, it might offer some degree of padding for your twitching finger.
I was heartbroken to think that Lauren had lost her baby, imagine my surprize and joy to learn that it was alive and in the special baby unit. Really is this the best they can do.
Snagglepus
04-08-2024, 19:32
lucky lauren used a taxi app that max had on his phone and who paid the taxi with her bag and wallet stolen
I think the taxi fare is paid though the app when booked, so it would have been Max.
Son of Cain
05-08-2024, 20:29
Really? Would someone as devious and dishonest as Joel, really believe Lauren when she says she has deleted the email without actually watching her do It?
Son of Cain
05-08-2024, 21:31
If only DS Swain checked who the flat that Lauren was staying in, was owned by or rented to, the whole sorry tale would be over.
parkerman
05-08-2024, 23:38
It's very appropriate that the Olympics are on currently as Corrie broke the world record tonight for the number of coincidences in one episode of a soap.
joel finally sees betsy with mammy ds swain
what's kit up to, i thought he was loaded
Dennis tanner
06-08-2024, 18:31
Really? Would someone as devious and dishonest as Joel, really believe Lauren when she says she has deleted the email without actually watching her do It?
I'm not even sure there that she has done such an e mail.
parkerman
07-08-2024, 23:16
Why is Lauren still afraid of Joel?
Why is Lauren still afraid of Joel?
she behaves sometimes like she isn't
if only nathan has contacts on the outside or Lauren's dad's mates inside or outside to take out joel and nathan
betsy knows mason, another coincidence, it grows and grows
leanne is a heartless cow
Dennis tanner
08-08-2024, 01:40
leanne is a heartless cow She has Battersby genes...not her fault
Why is Lauren still afraid of Joel?
I think if I had been assaulted and left for dead by someone I would always be afraid of that person...
Son of Cain
08-08-2024, 08:56
I think if I had been assaulted and left for dead by someone I would always be afraid of that person...
I do not understand why she did not go to the police at the time when she was injured, or did they explain that, and I have forgotten.
parkerman
08-08-2024, 09:16
she behaves sometimes like she isn't
betsy knows mason, another coincidence, it grows and grows
Talking of coincidences, which I know are very rare in Coronation Street. How about Fiz just happening to bump into Alina and Alina just happening to drop her phone.....?
parkerman
08-08-2024, 09:17
I think if I had been assaulted and left for dead by someone I would always be afraid of that person...
Yes, I can understand that, but now she has absolute proof with the DNA she can get him banged up for a long time. As things are at present, it's him who should be afraid of her, not make further threatening moves against her.
Yes, I can understand that, but now she has absolute proof with the DNA she can get him banged up for a long time. As things are at present, it's him who should be afraid of her, not make further threatening moves against her.
That is what he is like though, like Tom in Emmerdale, control freak, abuser and like Tom who is scared to "lose" his victim, Joel is scared that Lauren will report him so he is using the little bit of scare tactics he still has to stop her... I really cannot wait for this storyline to be over...
Son of Cain
08-08-2024, 11:01
Yes, I can understand that, but now she has absolute proof with the DNA she can get him banged up for a long time. As things are at present, it's him who should be afraid of her, not make further threatening moves against her.
I do not think Lauren wants justice she wants him to provide the means to go to Ireland, though what she will do when she gets there, I do not know. Is she expecting Joel to provide for her for the rest of her life? The time for justice was when he battered her.
Son of Cain
08-08-2024, 11:10
Talking of coincidences, which I know are very rare in Coronation Street. How about Fiz just happening to bump into Alina and Alina just happening to drop her phone.....?
Well they both need to go shopping, and if you have your phone in your hand while carrying your shopping, you must expect to drop it. Nothing really "unusual" there. But I am beginning to wonder if the Chariot Square Hotel is the only hotel in Weatherfield.
Talking of coincidences, which I know are very rare in Coronation Street. How about Fiz just happening to bump into Alina and Alina just happening to drop her phone.....?
Very lucky too that the phone is still ok and how cute that it showed the picture of her with a little boy :)
parkerman
08-08-2024, 11:38
Well they both need to go shopping, and if you have your phone in your hand while carrying your shopping, you must expect to drop it. Nothing really "unusual" there.
Yes, that's very true. I hadn't thought of that. Every time I go out shopping I bump into dozens of people I haven't seen for several years and who just happen to be in the country for a brief period. Also, people are always dropping their phones whenever I meet them. Thank you for reminding me.
But I am beginning to wonder if the Chariot Square Hotel is the only hotel in Weatherfield.
Also, is the trial being held in Weatherfield? I'm not aware they have any law courts there that could cope with such a high profile trial.
Dennis tanner
08-08-2024, 22:45
If Fiona is so concerned about Alina why on earth doesn't she just do nothing and leave her alone ????
parkerman
09-08-2024, 00:30
If Fiona is so concerned about Alina why on earth doesn't she just do nothing and leave her alone ????
She has to follow the script.
Dennis tanner
09-08-2024, 06:33
She has to follow the script.
But that's what I always say
parkerman
09-08-2024, 09:05
But that's what I always say
I know. That's why I said it!
Dennis tanner
09-08-2024, 22:12
I know. That's why I said it!
Good choice !!!!
Meanwhile the idiotic Fiona decides that it's a great idea to tell Tyronne about Miss Pop being in town and that she has a baby which might be his. ( Yes....Not her choice)
parkerman
09-08-2024, 23:14
Well at least there were no amazing coincidences in tonight's episode. I for one found it perfectly acceptable that Cassie just happened to go to the cab office; that just at that point Tim had to go out on a job; that just at that point Steve went out and asked her to look after the office for five minutes; that just at that point in those five minutes Alina rang to ask for a cab. All seemed perfectly legit to me.
Good choice !!!!
Meanwhile the idiotic Fiona decides that it's a great idea to tell Tyronne about Miss Pop being in town and that she has a baby which might be his. ( Yes....Not her choice)
I was actually amazed that she told him.... rather than us witnessing Tyrone suddenly being confronted with her and what might be his son and heir and then all secret meetings in order that Fiz does not find out... for once, they had an honest and adult conversation....
Well at least there were no amazing coincidences in tonight's episode. I for one found it perfectly acceptable that Cassie just happened to go to the cab office; that just at that point Tim had to go out on a job; that just at that point Steve went out and asked her to look after the office for five minutes; that just at that point in those five minutes Alina rang to ask for a cab. All seemed perfectly legit to me.
Her boots had very clean soles at least seeing she put her feet on the desk...
Son of Cain
10-08-2024, 09:17
Her boots had very clean soles at least seeing she put her feet on the desk...
That's because "these boots ain't made for working".
Son of Cain
10-08-2024, 09:22
Well at least there were no amazing coincidences in tonight's episode. I for one found it perfectly acceptable that Cassie just happened to go to the cab office; that just at that point Tim had to go out on a job; that just at that point Steve went out and asked her to look after the office for five minutes; that just at that point in those five minutes Alina rang to ask for a cab. All seemed perfectly legit to me.
There you are Parkerman, now you are finally watching this, as it is meant to be watched, in a mood of acceptance. No stressing, and looking for non existing coincidences. Now, just sit back and enjoy.
I was actually amazed that she told him.... rather than us witnessing Tyrone suddenly being confronted with her and what might be his son and heir and then all secret meetings in order that Fiz does not find out... for once, they had an honest and adult conversation....
I am not sure yet that Dorin is a Dobbs..... Tyrone should insist on a DNA test...
Son of Cain
10-08-2024, 20:46
I am not sure yet that Dorin is a Dobbs..... Tyrone should insist on a DNA test...
Dorin Dobbs - another D-D.
so cassie is a weathy county fan with a season ticket, no way a coincidence
Son of Cain
11-08-2024, 16:22
so cassie is a weathy county fan with a season ticket, no way a coincidence
When Cassie was talking aboit Mr Prawn Sandwich and a free season ticket was she referring to Tim. Otherwise where and when did she get a free season ticket, have I missed something? Is she really a Weathy County fan or is she after Steve?
When Cassie was talking aboit Mr Prawn Sandwich and a free season ticket was she referring to Tim. Otherwise where and when did she get a free season ticket, have I missed something? Is she really a Weathy County fan or is she after Steve?
She is after Steve
Son of Cain
12-08-2024, 09:53
She is after Steve
Don't think the current Steve is much of a catch. Altho maybe for Cassie, he is.
Son of Cain
12-08-2024, 21:50
Why has Kit moved into a room at The Rovers, he had a house when Bernie first found him, or was that just rented, but why move out and into the pub.
parkerman
14-08-2024, 21:46
After tonight's episode, I won't hear another word about coincidences. They have obviously got over this. Not a single one in Corrie tonight - well, apart from Joel's iPad, Cassie overhearing Ken, Kit and Paul that is. The scriptwriters have obviously seen sense at last and have given up using this tired old literary device.
After tonight's episode, I won't hear another word about coincidences. They have obviously got over this. Not a single one in Corrie tonight - well, apart from Joel's iPad, Cassie overhearing Ken, Kit and Paul that is. The scriptwriters have obviously seen sense at last and have given up using this tired old literary device.
😂😂
Son of Cain
15-08-2024, 10:33
After tonight's episode, I won't hear another word about coincidences. They have obviously got over this. Not a single one in Corrie tonight - well, apart from Joel's iPad, Cassie overhearing Ken, Kit and Paul that is. The scriptwriters have obviously seen sense at last and have given up using this tired old literary device.
Don't you feel happier, more chilled, now that you are not watching for and counting these coincidences?
mysangry
16-08-2024, 19:22
Dorin Dobbs - another D-D.
but if it's not Tyrone's!!
mysangry
16-08-2024, 19:24
Why has Kit moved into a room at The Rovers, he had a house when Bernie first found him, or was that just rented, but why move out and into the pub.
Got to be more to KIt, why would anyone live in house and buy a terrace, ok an ivestment I get, was he living with someone else in the house?
parkerman
16-08-2024, 20:31
I know I am now completely over Corrie and coincidences, but I think it would be very remiss of me not to point out that they broke the world soap speed record by having Joel leave his bag behind in less than a minute of tonight's episode.
coincidence street instead of coronation street
Son of Cain
16-08-2024, 20:55
I know I am now completely over Corrie and coincidences, but I think it would be very remiss of me not to point out that they broke the world soap speed record by having Joel leave his bag behind in less than a minute of tonight's episode.
I am really glad to see your post here, as I was struggling with how to tell you they have not stopped using this literary device. They are still doing it
Dee-Dee calls out to Joel as he shuts the door - why on earth did she not take the three steps to open the door and call him back, it is not as if he was a half a mile down the road when she realized he had left his bag?
Dennis tanner
17-08-2024, 00:01
Fiona is still oblivious about the fact that she has caused the current issues.
Son of Cain
17-08-2024, 07:38
Fiona is still oblivious about the fact that she has caused the current issues.
Fiona is oblivious, (to most things).
David to Nick: Keep little Nicky in your pants :lol: :rotfl:
Fiona is oblivious, (to most things).
She is not... but she should grab Tyrone by the neck and remind him that he has two daughters who he made promises to.. re-arrange spending time with Dorin for another time.... :angry:
parkerman
17-08-2024, 14:59
Just another thought. There was hardly anything in the flat belonging to Lauren. Surely there would have been something there that would have identified who was living there?
Cassie: Steve, are you letting this scrubber talk to me like this?
Tracy: Steve, are you letting this scrag end talk to me like this?
Steve: There are a lot of insults with S here :lol:
So Dee Dee has a look around the lounge and kitchen... if I suspected my partner to cheat I would have looked in the bedroom too... and bathroom ..
Dennis tanner
17-08-2024, 21:05
Just another thought. There was hardly anything in the flat belonging to Lauren. Surely there would have been something there that would have identified who was living there?
I don't think that Diana actually made anything like a proper search
was david on holiday on the sun
Dennis tanner
17-08-2024, 21:35
was david on holiday on the sun
I don't recall Platt ever going on holiday.
was david on holiday on the sun
He was very tanned, wasn?t he as are many who don?t appear for a while. ?Scrag End? for example. 🤣
has lauren moved into a mother and baby unit?
has lauren moved into a mother and baby unit?
I have been wondering why she seemed to be in hospital a lot longer than most new mothers stay these days... I do not think it has been mentioned where she is living now.??
Son of Cain
18-08-2024, 10:12
was david on holiday on the sun
Jack P Shepherd was on safari in Africa in June, not sure if David was with him.
Jack P Shepherd was on safari in Africa in June, not sure if David was with him.
a very sun safari for both
Dennis tanner
18-08-2024, 18:02
Jack P Shepherd was on safari in Africa in June, not sure if David was with him.
Platt doesn't do holidays
all the pieces fitting in place for dee dee
Can somebody please tell producers and scriptwriters that mobile phones these days have a BLOCK CONTACT facility so if you do not wish to be bothered by a persistent caller you just block them!!!
And how to shut doors to wards in a hospital
parkerman
21-08-2024, 23:01
I can't help thinking there is actually more evidence against Joel than there ever was against Roy, but Roy was banged up for months while Joel was just let go.
Dennis tanner
21-08-2024, 23:14
I can't help thinking there is actually more evidence against Joel than there ever was against Roy, but Roy was banged up for months while Joel was just let go.
There was more space in the Chokey back then
is sabrina gone?
Yes, already left
Son of Cain
22-08-2024, 06:56
Yes, already left
How did she go, I don't recall seeing this? Did we see it, or did it happen off camera?
How did she go, I don't recall seeing this? Did we see it, or did it happen off camera?
She has finished filming but will be involved in Joel being found out according to this: Digital Spy has reached out to ITV for any further information about Luana's exit and Sabrina's exit storyline.
There's going to be some major twists and turns in the Joel storyline next week, and we've got a selection of spoilers and pictures if you want to know what's going down ahead of time.
Son of Cain
22-08-2024, 09:20
She has finished filming but will be involved in Joel being found out according to this: Digital Spy has reached out to ITV for any further information about Luana's exit and Sabrina's exit storyline.
There's going to be some major twists and turns in the Joel storyline next week, and we've got a selection of spoilers and pictures if you want to know what's going down ahead of time.
I always prefer to be surprised.
How did she go, I don't recall seeing this? Did we see it, or did it happen off camera?
yes no mentions or sightings you'd think she would be questioned after betsy spoke out
parkerman
23-08-2024, 23:12
Why does Rowan keep popping up in the Bistro and the Rover's? Doesn't he have anything better to do?
Dennis tanner
24-08-2024, 04:27
Why does Rowan keep popping up in the Bistro and the Rover's? Doesn't he have anything better to do?
His job is to con peoople out of money and his best targets are Amy and Leanne
Son of Cain
24-08-2024, 10:39
Should Tyrone take this opportunity to get a DNA test while Alina is away? Just to be sure.
Should Tyrone take this opportunity to get a DNA test while Alina is away? Just to be sure.
I wonder if Evelyn might ..... :hmm:
bratface
24-08-2024, 19:30
I wonder if Evelyn might ..... :hmm:
The Legal paternity test cost is ?420 for a mother, child, and alleged father.
Do they have that kind of money?
The Legal paternity test cost is ?420 for a mother, child, and alleged father.
Do they have that kind of money?
is ty a garage partner still?
Dennis tanner
24-08-2024, 20:42
Should Tyrone take this opportunity to get a DNA test while Alina is away? Just to be sure.
I agree. Dorin looks nothing like him.
parkerman
26-08-2024, 21:29
?I left his coat on the slide?."
Oh dear!
Son of Cain
26-08-2024, 21:59
?I left his coat on the slide?."
Oh dear!
That's not a coincidence, is it? I do that all the time.
Son of Cain
26-08-2024, 22:01
Are Jenny and Daisy still paying Carla back? Or has that been forgotten about.
Son of Cain
26-08-2024, 22:03
How exactly will The Institute's Resource Centre make money, do they charge people to be uploaded?
parkerman
26-08-2024, 22:31
Are Jenny and Daisy still paying Carla back? Or has that been forgotten about.
Jenny said they were tonight.
parkerman
26-08-2024, 22:32
That's not a coincidence, is it? I do that all the time.
So do I, but usually only when I've left my phone with a compromising photo on it available to see.
Dennis tanner
27-08-2024, 00:48
How exactly will The Institute's Resource Centre make money, do they charge people to be uploaded?
Business Plan
Step one...Get them to tell you all their worst secrets
Step two....Record conversations
Step three....Blackmail them
Son of Cain
27-08-2024, 07:27
So do I, but usually only when I've left my phone with a compromising photo on it available to see.
Snap!
parkerman
29-08-2024, 00:01
And the award for King of Coincidences this week goes to Kit who takes over the mantle from Joel.
terrible exit for beth as if she'd let kit force her away
leanne u big dopey idiot and finally steve hears about AI oliver
Dennis tanner
29-08-2024, 01:16
terrible exit for beth as if she'd let kit force her away
Beth and that Kit should really be stalemate
is ty a garage partner still?
Yes, I think so
Son of Cain
29-08-2024, 07:08
terrible exit for beth as if she'd let kit force her away
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Beth and that Kit should really be stalemate
Exactly, Kit has just as much to lose as Craig. But the bit that has me on the edge of my seat is, will Peanut go with Beth or stay with Kirk? Or alternatively, just never be seen or heard of again.1-
Son of Cain
30-08-2024, 20:31
I think Craig was speaking for us all, when he said "None of this makes sense".
Son of Cain
30-08-2024, 20:43
On the one occassion when someone should have overheard someone's conversation, Stu turns out to be hard of hearing.
parkerman
30-08-2024, 22:26
On the one occassion when someone should have overheard someone's conversation, Stu turns out to be hard of hearing.
Yes, things are definitely looking up on the coincidences front. I only counted five tonight.
Exactly, Kit has just as much to lose as Craig. But the bit that has me on the edge of my seat is, will Peanut go with Beth or stay with Kirk? Or alternatively, just never be seen or heard of again.1-
What happened to Rover, Steve's dog???
Son of Cain
31-08-2024, 08:09
What happened to Rover, Steve's dog???
Gone with Beth to Norfolk? - Seriously, I had forgotten about Rover. I presume he has gone to the "Great Red Rec" in the sky. He first appeared in 2015 so must be getting on in age. Perhaps he is under the stairs hiding from Tracey.
Rover was played by Cookie, one of Simon's own dogs.
At least we learned Peanut's fate, stayed at home with Kirk.
parkerman
31-08-2024, 08:54
At least we learned Peanut's fate, stayed at home with Kirk.
Yes, that was a load off my mind. I don't care what happens to Joel, Kit, Alina, Jack or even Paul now I know Peanut is safe with Kirk.
does ken have a dog?
Not any more, Eccles was put to sleep 2015. I have not seen David's dog David for ages, Evelyn held Freddie not so long ago so he is still there.
If Lauren was to give permission for a DNA test on Frankie, would that not give enough evidence that Joel abused her???? :hmm:
parkerman
31-08-2024, 11:17
There is a serious lack of cats on the street.
There is a serious lack of cats on the street.
There is one shown in the intro....
parkerman
31-08-2024, 11:54
If Lauren was to give permission for a DNA test on Frankie, would that not give enough evidence that Joel abused her???? :hmm:
No. He hasn't denied that he is the father. He's saying the sex was consensual.
If Lauren was to give permission for a DNA test on Frankie, would that not give enough evidence that Joel abused her???? :hmm:
lauren is of age of consent and went with joel, did he rape her?
lauren is of age of consent and went with joel, did he rape her?
Witnesses have seen her with bruises on her arms, I am sure enough evidence can and will be found...
Forgive me, a total technophobe ... is it illegal to have a tracker on someones phone? I guess if they do not know it might be... but not sure...
Son of Cain
31-08-2024, 17:05
There is a serious lack of cats on the street.
No cat could ever replace Minnie Caldwell's beloved Bobby.
Son of Cain
31-08-2024, 17:14
Forgive me, a total technophobe ... is it illegal to have a tracker on someones phone? I guess if they do not know it might be... but not sure...
I am pretty sure it is, if install it without their knowledge. However if it I'd done with their knowledge to keep them safe, for example by a parent and their child or by partners that is OK.
parkerman
31-08-2024, 19:03
Witnesses have seen her with bruises on her arms, I am sure enough evidence can and will be found...
You seem to be several episodes behind. All this has been investigated and there is not enough evidence to show Joel did it.
does david still have david
Son of Cain
01-09-2024, 16:42
does david still have david
With all these missing dogs, I am thinking it is a matter of costs. They cannot afford to pay for dogs just to be sitting on the sofa, so only pay when they are needed for a story. All the current dogs are small so could be sitting quietly in a corner unnoticed until needed. Which was not the case with Schmeichel, who was hardly invisible.
The original David, the dog, died and was replaced.
parkerman
02-09-2024, 23:06
I believe it is the case, noted in the Guinness Book of Records, that Weatherfield Court is the only one in Great Britain that doesn't have separate waiting rooms for the two opposing parties.
Incidentally, has anyone seen Alfie lately? I'm getting worried that he might have benn done in and no-one has noticed.
Dennis tanner
02-09-2024, 23:41
With all these missing dogs, I am thinking it is a matter of costs. They cannot afford to pay for dogs just to be sitting on the sofa, so only pay when they are needed for a story. All the current dogs are small so could be sitting quietly in a corner unnoticed until needed. Which was not the case with Schmeichel, who was hardly invisible.
The original David, the dog, died and was replaced.
Pity it was just the poor dog
I believe it is the case, noted in the Guinness Book of Records, that Weatherfield Court is the only one in Great Britain that doesn't have separate waiting rooms for the two opposing parties.
Incidentally, has anyone seen Alfie lately? I'm getting worried that he might have benn done in and no-one has noticed.
alfie seems to have a babysitter away from the street
parkerman
04-09-2024, 21:34
"Excuse me, there's a problem with your room." Aaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh.
leanne those deleted files can still be retrived
Son of Cain
05-09-2024, 07:27
leanne those deleted files can still be retrived
We did not see Leanne permanently delete from the waste basket, all that needs to be done is click restore. When she saw the Nick and Toyah file she was so upset she stopped deleting. So they will not even need retrieving. Surely if The Institute is a scam, these files will be shared with other devices.
So Toyah listens to Leanne saying she saw a photo of her and Nick kissing.... instead of phoning Nick she walks to the Bistro from wherever she was... :rolleyes: I am glad Nick told her the truth about how he feels about Toyah... but will they get together now? Toyah not happy about Nick telling Leanne.... :hmm:
Son of Cain
06-09-2024, 18:11
So Toyah listens to Leanne saying she saw a photo of her and Nick kissing.... instead of phoning Nick she walks to the Bistro from wherever she was... :rolleyes: I am glad Nick told her the truth about how he feels about Toyah... but will they get together now? Toyah not happy about Nick telling Leanne.... :hmm:
May I suggest they form a throuple. - That would be something new, don't recall that before.
On the other hand If I was Nick I would have left Leanne a while ago.
Son of Cain
06-09-2024, 20:37
Yes, Billy you are a bit boring, a big bit.
Dennis tanner
06-09-2024, 22:09
Yes, Billy you are a bit boring, a big bit.
Since when have Platt and Billy been chums???
Surely Billy would have prefered an evenings discussion with his theological chums
tammyy2j
06-09-2024, 23:24
Kit is good with Paul, I would like more Todd with Paul scenes too
parkerman
06-09-2024, 23:33
They have some very efficient locksmiths in Weatherfield.
Son of Cain
07-09-2024, 07:31
Since when have Platt and Billy been chums???
Surely Billy would have prefered an evenings discussion with his theological chums
Apart from the bishop, does Billy have any theological chums?
Son of Cain
07-09-2024, 07:37
Is there anyone more self righteous than Leanne, Nick might not have behaved well, but Leanne does not seem to accept any responsibility for the breakdown of their relationship. Things started going wrong when Oliver was in hospital, even though it was a terrible and stressful time, she treated Nick very badly then.
Son of Cain
07-09-2024, 11:28
They have some very efficient locksmiths in Weatherfield.
Mind you, it is pretty easy to change a lock yourself, especially if it a Yale type lock. But I don't think I can see Leanne doing that.
Why on earth is Nick saying he will find somewhere else to live?? It is his apartment and he has Sam to take care of... chuck Leanne out, he has no need to feel guilty about having done the dirty on her... she put The Institute and Rowan before anyone else for months, even not supporting her sister when she had cancer......
Son of Cain
07-09-2024, 20:16
Why on earth is Nick saying he will find somewhere else to live?? It is his apartment and he has Sam to take care of... chuck Leanne out, he has no need to feel guilty about having done the dirty on her... she put The Institute and Rowan before anyone else for months, even not supporting her sister when she had cancer......
As I posted recently on the Emmerdale Board, I have long since lost all track of who lives where, with who. Did Nick own the flat before he got together with Leanne, or did they buy it together when they become a couple?
As I posted recently on the Emmerdale Board, I have long since lost all track of who lives where, with who. Did Nick own the flat before he got together with Leanne, or did they buy it together when they become a couple?
it was nicks own and he isn't married to leanne
Dennis tanner
08-09-2024, 06:29
Apart from the bishop, does Billy have any theological chums?
I doubt it. They probably think he's a waste of space as well
parkerman
09-09-2024, 23:14
I guess it was only fitting that such a moving storyline should go out in a world record number of coincidences.
I guess it was only fitting that such a moving storyline should go out in a world record number of coincidences.
Such as?
Dennis tanner
10-09-2024, 00:01
I guess it was only fitting that such a moving storyline should go out in a world record number of coincidences.
Coincidences and they had to find the Platt Creature something to do
parkerman
10-09-2024, 08:42
Such as?
Billy losing his phone; the phone being smashed when he did find it; Freshco's car park being blocked.....
the billy nonsense was not needed
bernie and paul bravo, played blinders
Dennis tanner
10-09-2024, 16:31
the billy nonsense was not needed
bernie and paul bravo, played blinders
SIlly Billy lived up to his name
Ruffed_lemur
10-09-2024, 17:29
the billy nonsense was not needed
bernie and paul bravo, played blinders
Yes, the Billy nonsense spoiled it for me. Why couldn't we just have have Billy get there in time? He shouldn't have left Paul IMO.
Son of Cain
10-09-2024, 17:48
Yes, the Billy nonsense spoiled it for me. Why couldn't we just have have Billy get there in time? He shouldn't have left Paul IMO.
Because now we can have him agonizing, for months, over his guilt at not being there when Paul passed on. - Looking forward to that, not.
Dennis tanner
10-09-2024, 21:46
Because now we can have him agonizing, for months, over his guilt at not being there when Paul passed on. - Looking forward to that, not.
His new boyfriend will quickly tire of his agonizing.
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