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parkerman
11-07-2017, 11:13
I can't help thinking that's not quite how it works with market pitches and the inspector being able to just close stalls down without a proper procedure to go through....however, on the plus side, it did mean Winston got a line!

flappinfanny
11-07-2017, 11:49
I can't help thinking that's not quite how it works with market pitches and the inspector being able to just close stalls down without a proper procedure to go through....however, on the plus side, it did mean Winston got a line!
Out of all the soaps EE have the best extra's, Winston, Shrimpy, Tracey, Johnathan Ross's mum (not sure if she is still in it.) I can't think of one extra on the other soaps I can remember or feel part of the soap family. Apart from Mrs Ecclesbottom who comes in for a blue rinse on a Thursday for David to pretend to do :D

lizann
11-07-2017, 21:56
some on line theory that callum father is tom who is michelle's new man

flappinfanny
11-07-2017, 23:28
An improved episode tonight. Robbie is a prized idiot. I was hoping for a replay with Kush and Martin. Mick found one of his knackers tonight, not before time. Abi is jealous. I doubt Lauren will go to New Zealand. I wonder if Max wants Lauren to stay at the Beales because of his plan for revenge? As for the two bullies, enough already, want this story to end!

Splashy
12-07-2017, 02:19
If two thugs threw me in a bin Id call the police then get them kicked off the market... TBH it just made me like Rob, the actor is obviously struggling in the role, but the character has every right to say you havent paid your pitch fee then until you do someone else gets it.

Shirley having screwed over her son seems hell bent on destroying the business. Since when did she care about anyone else but herself, let alone a pot boy who only gets paid in booze. Why would either bloke compete for the job unless they are beer monsters.

So the bullies are going to do for Bex, sounds like an acid attack or something vile to curtail her talent. Depressing.

Rear window
12-07-2017, 11:04
some on line theory that callum father is tom who is michelle's new man

That would make sense of having Angry Tom rear his ugly head.

tammyy2j
12-07-2017, 16:59
the baby daddy callum's daddy sounds like a scary man so is he like gavin or archie or have we met him already and was their special meeting place the allotments

Gavin was very scary and menacing :lol:

Perdita
12-07-2017, 17:37
Gavin was very scary and menacing :lol:
:cartman: :rotfl:

flappinfanny
12-07-2017, 23:28
Are we going to see Kim, Denise and co on their jollies? I don't know whether the licence fee will stretch to filming abroad? Now if they were going to Southend or Clacton then that would be ok, or somewhere more exotic like Skeggy.

lizann
12-07-2017, 23:30
no more follow up on linda back with elaine, instead we get mick and fi which is better than mick and whitney

fi spends a hell of a lot of time in that pub

lizann
13-07-2017, 20:23
surely this is the end of those bullies

Glen1
13-07-2017, 21:07
surely this is the end of those bullies
Seems to be. Feel a bit shortchanged though, for such a long running story I would like to have seen the police involved with Alexandra and Madison .Hope it isn't just going to be some hearsay that they've been expelled.

kaz21
13-07-2017, 21:58
surely this is the end of those bullies

Wouldnt be too sure about that.

lizann
14-07-2017, 23:16
lauren should have gone to her mother or nana gaff to decide what and who she wants

Rear window
14-07-2017, 23:32
lauren should have gone to her mother or nana gaff to decide what and who she wants

yes she should.
so will Abi be up the duff yet? she's a right bunny boiler. her hair was amusing after he encounter with stephen

flappinfanny
15-07-2017, 00:04
You just knew Steven was going to tell one almighty pork pie to keep Lauren here.

Its funny I used to detest Shakil, but I have really warmed to the character now and it is nothing to do with his much improved hair do.

Bravo to Michelle coming to Denny's rescue. Really liking Jenna in the role.

tammyy2j
15-07-2017, 00:07
Does anyone care about Lauren's men trouble, she should make her son her top priority

kaz21
15-07-2017, 12:12
You just knew Steven was going to tell one almighty pork pie to keep Lauren here.

Its funny I used to detest Shakil, but I have really warmed to the character now and it is nothing to do with his much improved hair do.

Bravo to Michelle coming to Denny's rescue. Really liking Jenna in the role.

Shaki has really grown up lately, even if he is friends with kegan.
I do hope Denny has a wake up call over his behaviour now.

Mo Mouse
15-07-2017, 15:48
I think Denny is growing up a bit as well and it was nice to see him enjoying a cigarette or two to show that he isn't a kid any more.

lizann
18-07-2017, 01:06
abi mother had cancer but no she supports stephen's lie and provides scans or xrays, ian will too as he has form lying

michelle and sharon needs to tone down make up

flappinfanny
18-07-2017, 10:39
I was pleased Dot put Sonia and Robbie in their place. Did anyone notice Jane's face when she found out it was the company Max works for who have bought the Chippy. Sharon looked a bit bronzed tonight. Hopefully we will be coming to the end of the 2 bullies shortly. They have passed their sell buy date. Jay and Ben's scenes are always good to watch, great chemistry.

lizann
18-07-2017, 22:16
max lying for stephen part of his revenge on lauren

parkerman
19-07-2017, 00:00
Great background scene with Winston tonight! :cheer:

Dazzle
19-07-2017, 14:20
My favourite thing about EE at the moment is unpredictable, evil Abi.

tammyy2j
19-07-2017, 14:42
My favourite thing about EE at the moment is unpredictable, evil Abi.

Lorna Fitzgerald plays her so well

flappinfanny
20-07-2017, 01:06
So what is Max's game, does he also want revenge on Lauren.

Here's a thought, with falling Ratings (EE against a clash with ED recorded its lowest ever figure 3.76 Million on Tuesday) if the BBC did want away out of EE, they could let Weyland and Co get their way with the square and that would be that. A bit like the Brookside ending. :)

Rear window
20-07-2017, 17:30
they could end with someone stepping out of the shower and speaking to Lucy

Perdita
20-07-2017, 17:54
they could end with someone stepping out of the shower and speaking to Lucy

:lol:

lizann
20-07-2017, 18:07
they could end with someone stepping out of the shower and speaking to Lucy

bradley

kaz21
20-07-2017, 20:27
Don't know about anyone else, but it looked to me, as louise on fire in the reflection of bex's eyes.

Glen1
20-07-2017, 20:50
Yet another Alexandra and Madison nightmare to endure, can't believe the powers that be at EE keep going on and on with this worn out, repetetive storyline.

Splashy
20-07-2017, 22:02
So Lucy in her more than obviously un flame retardant dress is going to .... well I dont read spoilers but I saw that coming a mile off.

But it is a good story line, there are vile people out there that cant stand others being happy and living their lives, they take sick pleasure in ruining things and as they have no compunction about how far they go or really understand consequences maiming and even death may follow. Their sad protest will be, that they didnt mean to hurt them really.. I did ponder how an as ult out of schools hours on Be was still a school matter not just a basic Police matter warranting at minimum a police caution.

Nice too see Mr Lister back, but it did make me wonder where he has been all this years since his running's in with the Red haird one. He certainly hasnt been on any kind of acting course.

Sharon is really getting the bit parts at the moment, her whole body language was screaming, did I really just have to get out of bed for this naff line.

Max is out to make all his kin suffer, fair play to the dude, thou I would warn him that Abi is the one most likely to bury him under her patio and not give a fudge, she will probably get Jane to drag his dead body there as she has experience of doing that.Or maybe just set chuckle junior after him, sorry I mean bobby.

kaz21
20-07-2017, 22:04
The line about Sharon's bronzer lol. I said she wears enough make up, as it is.

lizann
20-07-2017, 22:12
doubt the show would have the balls to kill another mitchell off, so louise burnt has issues with image and scars then to miraculously recover

Dazzle
20-07-2017, 23:23
I thought it was a decent episode with a very good duff duff. I liked the way the final scene ended with the reflection in Bex's horrified eyes. I found the thought of Louise being on fire pretty shocking. :(

parkerman
21-07-2017, 00:06
doubt the show would have the balls to kill another mitchell off, so louise burnt has issues with image and scars then to miraculously recover
Yes, the rather heavy hints about Louise being "head hunted" for a modelling career is a bit of a giveaway as regards her burns and being disfigured in some way.

flappinfanny
21-07-2017, 00:50
The ending was quite harrowing, very clever at the end looking through Bex's eyes. A very good duff duff.

How is Max going to get out of this one, being caught red handed?

Glen1
21-07-2017, 04:46
The ending was quite harrowing, very clever at the end looking through Bex's eyes. A very good duff duff.

How is Max going to get out of this one, being caught red handed?
Compliment Carmel on the baked Alaska, and then tuck into a large portion.

Glen1
21-07-2017, 12:28
But it is a good story line, there are vile people out there ............
Would not disagree Splashy with your comments , I think "was a good storyline" ticks the box for me. I've lost count of the number of incidents the terrible pair and Keegan have got away with ,repeated assaults, threatening behaviour, intimidation, criminal damage all over along period . Again for me this sidelines the message. Have no problem with the latest Louise incident except something similar could have been done a couple of months ago . (We've had burns injuries with Kat and Tamwar ) More about a convenient return time that suited Mr. McFadden maybe.

Rear window
21-07-2017, 19:07
bradley

God yes!

flappinfanny
22-07-2017, 01:01
A strong episode for EE. Bex is a good friend to Louise, not sure she deserves it, but it looks like the two bullies are going to get their just desserts.

lizann
22-07-2017, 22:58
max opening up about his cig self burning to carmel, well done sir branning

lisa back is she going by what name, shaw, fowler or mitchell, was she hitched to phil?

Perdita
23-07-2017, 04:16
max opening up about his cig self burning to carmel, well done sir branning

lisa back is she going by what name, shaw, fowler or mitchell, was she hitched to phil?

No, they never got married

flappinfanny
23-07-2017, 12:20
A good Duff Duff, shame it was spoilt by a leak to the red tops.

Splashy
24-07-2017, 01:07
max opening up about his cig self burning to carmel, well done sir branning

lisa back is she going by what name, shaw, fowler or mitchell, was she hitched to phil?

Those burns on Max are very new, after a while they become just a white lump, no one really notices or aks about.

Yeah, Dennis Watermans daughter is very busy at the moment, on casualty she is the racist and now she is the returned women Peggy and Phil bullied away from Louise's life all in the same time frame.

lizann
24-07-2017, 09:49
Those burns on Max are very new, after a while they become just a white lump, no one really notices or aks about.

Yeah, Dennis Watermans daughter is very busy at the moment, on casualty she is the racist and now she is the returned women Peggy and Phil bullied away from Louise's life all in the same time frame.

his daughter played laura

where was travis while buillies pushed louise and she on fire?

flappinfanny
25-07-2017, 00:12
Powerful scenes with Lisa and Sharon. Old school EE.

Rear window
25-07-2017, 13:45
I'm watching Fridays (didn't watch the previous one) and it's excellent. Really shocking and has dragged me right into feeling very emotional.
Just got to the bit where the teacher is saying 'spose I should stop that' as the nasty girls and being called by everyone else. The copper's reply is excellent.

tammyy2j
25-07-2017, 14:24
Where is Phil recuperating?

Ruffed_lemur
25-07-2017, 17:05
I'm watching Fridays (didn't watch the previous one) and it's excellent. Really shocking and has dragged me right into feeling very emotional.
Just got to the bit where the teacher is saying 'spose I should stop that' as the nasty girls and being called by everyone else. The copper's reply is excellent.

Yes, excellent episode. I wish the schools would watch this and accept how serious bullying can be.

tammyy2j
25-07-2017, 17:07
I think if possible Bex and Louise's parents should sue the school, seek legal action for their negligence

Dazzle
25-07-2017, 18:04
Brilliant scenes between Sharon and Lisa—they took me back to when EE was gritty and riveting. They're both favourite long-term characters of mine.


max opening up about his cig self burning to carmel, well done sir branning

My interpretation was that he only confessed to the self harm to deflect Carmel from his real intent in rummaging through her drawers (oo-er :o). It was good to hear him talk it about though whatever his motive.

I notice he couldn't get away from Carmel fast enough last night when Shakil turned up as they were about to kiss. That answers my question about whether he has any feelings for her (although I was already aware that he was using her for her connections to the planning department).

lizann
25-07-2017, 18:14
Where is Phil recuperating?

is it portugal where all mitchells are

Dazzle
25-07-2017, 19:15
is it portugal where all mitchells are

Italy I think.

Perdita
25-07-2017, 19:26
Italy I think.

Think lizann is right with Portugal

kaz21
25-07-2017, 19:31
Phil's been recouping in Italy.

Perdita
25-07-2017, 19:33
Phil's been recouping in Italy.

My apologies, not been following EE regularly, missed that bit

lizann
25-07-2017, 20:06
thought portugal was mitchell's mecca :p mitchelljorca

Perdita
25-07-2017, 20:50
thought portugal was mitchell's mecca :p mitchelljorca

Yes, but maybe too painful for memories for him to go back to????

kaz21
25-07-2017, 21:08
Perdita they all seem to go to Portugal, so it's not hard to just assume :)

lizann
25-07-2017, 23:54
bully phil back taking out lisa

Dazzle
26-07-2017, 02:16
bully phil back taking out lisa

That was shocking stuff! :angry:

Please, please SOC do one final good deed and let Lisa get the better of Phil...

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l0NwNrl4BtDD7JCx2/giphy.gif

tammyy2j
26-07-2017, 12:56
bully phil back taking out lisa

Even his own near death experience with his liver and his mother dying, has not made him change his heavy handed bullying tactics :angry: Lisa should team up with Max

Has Lisa ever met Shirley, I don't know why Shirley who also shot Phil is quick to judge Lisa, Shirley is not mother of the year material either :thumbsdow

tammyy2j
27-07-2017, 21:50
Was that a therapist in a hospital who Lisa was seeing lying about her time with Louise?

Max wants Lauren to suffer :cheer: I wonder what he has in store for Phil and Ian

Splashy
27-07-2017, 22:02
Yeah, Lisa is obviously in some kind of metal health help set up. I cant fully remember her back story, I know Peggy and Phil wanted her baby not her, so full on bullied her and cut her out of her own kids life. Then later she got Lou back then suddenly Lou came back to Phil. Cant remember having clinical issues back then.

Yep, Lauren you did the unthinkable you sided with the Beals and let your own dad rot in prison. Now ya reaping what you sowed, twisted nightmare of a boy friend who you only really used to look after your kid which is actually his brothers.

I personalty hope he makes Jane suffer the most.:cartman:

lizann
27-07-2017, 23:15
did peggy have louise then she came to live with phil but not sure what happened with lisa

parkerman
27-07-2017, 23:57
Perdita they all seem to go to Portugal, so it's not hard to just assume :)

Sharon actually said during the episode that Phil was in Italy. (Sorry, a bit late with this, only just caught up the last two episodes tonight!)

kaz21
28-07-2017, 09:28
did peggy have louise then she came to live with phil but not sure what happened with lisa

She left lou to go after a man I think they said.

kaz21
28-07-2017, 09:28
Sharon actually said during the episode that Phil was in Italy. (Sorry, a bit late with this, only just caught up the last two episodes tonight!)

I know, but some people can be forgiven for thinking Portugal as that's where they usually go.

lizann
28-07-2017, 12:32
no tan or sunburn for phil but yellow gone now new liver

flappinfanny
28-07-2017, 19:13
Max wants to get even with Lauren as well. Poor Lauren being stuck with Steven for the rest of her naturals, I bet she hopes he snuffs it quick. Little does she know. I did feel a little sympathy for Carmel.

Max will come a cropper in the end, once a looser always a looser.

Dazzle
28-07-2017, 20:05
Max wants to get even with Lauren as well. Poor Lauren being stuck with Steven for the rest of her naturals, I bet she hopes he snuffs it quick. Little does she know. I did feel a little sympathy for Carmel.

Max will come a cropper in the end, once a looser always a looser.

I feel sorry for Lauren at the moment for the twisted way she's being manipulated by Steven, but at the same time I can't help finding Max's revenge on her just a little bit delicious. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/devil/smileys-devil-042296.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

lizann
28-07-2017, 20:15
is some of what max is telling carmel the truth, especially the prison talk, think it is

Dazzle
29-07-2017, 02:08
is some of what max is telling carmel the truth, especially the prison talk, think it is

I think so: he's a typical manipulator, reeling his catch in with heartfelt deep and meaningfuls based on the truth so that he appears trustworthy.

When he was describing his grotty bedsit, I just knew we'd see him in a flash pad by the end of the episode (and unfortunately I've seen speculation that Fi's his girlfriend so that spoiled that twist :(). I'm glad Max's storyline is finally hotting up though.

So Lisa is psychotic (in the true psychiatric meaning of the word)? I'd have much preferred to see her strong and stable (:D) and ready to stand up to Phil. Perhaps his disgusting bullying has triggered an episode--he did almost destroy her before after all. :thumbsdow

Rear window
31-07-2017, 12:39
Is Eastenders actually in it's death throws? I know we have joked about it ending and having a Dallas style shower scene, but the yuckyness with Max and Carmen and Fi is all a bit horrid.
And if they're bringing Whitney back to flirt/etc with Mick then that's just as horrid too.

The storyline with Lauren being guilted into marrying that nutter who is carrying on with her sister too... horrid.

Dirty sleezey storylines are not very pleasant to watch - perhaps they are hoping to boost rankings with people's outrage.

parkerman
31-07-2017, 17:24
Couldn't agree more, RW. EE is plumbing the depths now, especially coming after the dubious moral issues of letting Ian and Jane getting away with knowingly allowing Max to go to jail for a crime they knew he was innocent of and the finding of Deano not guilty.

This whole storyline with Max is a desperate attempt to weasel out of the mess they got themselves into with the Bobby story. You see, although he was technically innocent, he is a villain, so it doesn't matter that he was sent to prison because he deserved it. So, good for Ian and Jane.

I did stop watching for a while and then returned hoping there might be some redemption and comeuppance when Max returned, but, sadly, it's just getting worse. I think I'll be off again very soon.

Perdita
31-07-2017, 17:51
I stopped watching regularly shortly after the Lucy murder .. dipped in ever so often .. getting less and less now .. not missing it and I used to watch every episode!!

lizann
31-07-2017, 21:51
oh whitney please do one and f*ck off again, carters are not your family

Rear window
31-07-2017, 23:00
Turning the pregnant teenager into a thief,
more devious stephen nonsense,

and Shirley, Whitney and then the lisa nonsense.

i think EE is over.

lizann
31-07-2017, 23:19
lisa goes to mitchell house no one sees, she then meets sonia clearly unhinged and sonia sees nothing wrong

how did lisa get louise out of the hospital?

flappinfanny
31-07-2017, 23:39
I stopped watching regularly shortly after the Lucy murder .. dipped in ever so often .. getting less and less now .. not missing it and I used to watch every episode!!

Well I will keep you all informed as i religiously watch it for my sins. I will say 3 hail Ian's. :D

flappinfanny
31-07-2017, 23:41
So Whitney is back in the square, can't abide her, what gives her the right to work at the Vic? :( I know she has had a tough, tragic, hard life, we all know her sad history but I cannot feel any sympathy for her. Yet I do have sypmathy for Lauren, being stuck with Steven. Abi was so funny tonight, a mini Janine in the making.

Karen made me smile, her heart is in the right place. I think Lisa will end up being sectioned. A good Duff Duff, Phillip is not going to be happy. We may see his red angry tomato face tomorrow.

Dazzle
31-07-2017, 23:44
I'm quite enjoying EE at the moment and think it's plumbed far worse depths (Linda's execrable rape storyline immediately springs to mind). And you couldn't beat the "Who's shagging Kat?" storyline for skin-crawling sleaze. :p

I think the Taylors have promise and Karen has potential to be a classic EE character. I also like Ted and Joyce and am looking forward to learning more about them. The gentrification storyline is intriguing. Abi as a villain is great fun.

I do think EE's days of being must see TV are gone though, and unlikely to return.

I have to wonder what kind of idiots wouldn't notice that Lisa's behaviour is somewhat bizarre (to put it mildly)?

Dazzle
31-07-2017, 23:48
So Whitney is back in the square, can't abide her, what gives her the right to work at the Vic? :( I know she has had a tough, tragic, hard life, we all know her sad history but I cannot feel any sympathy for her. Yet I do have sypmathy for Lauren, being stuck with Steven. Abi was so funny tonight, a mini Janine in the making.

Karen made me smile, her heart is in the right place. I think Lisa will end up being sectioned. A good Duff Duff, Phillip is not going to be happy. We may see his red angry tomato face tomorrow.

Mick employing her? :p :D

(These smilies aren't as fun as the old ones :()

flappinfanny
31-07-2017, 23:49
I'm quite enjoying EE at the moment and think it's plumbed far worse depths (Linda's execrable rape storyline immediately springs to mind). And you couldn't beat the "Who's shagging Kat?" storyline for skin-crawling sleaze. :p

I think the Taylors have promise and Karen has potential to be a classic EE character. I also like Ted and Joyce and am looking forward to learning more about them. The gentrification storyline is intriguing.

I do think EE's days of being must see TV are gone though, and unlikely to return.

I have to wonder what kind of idiots wouldn't notice that Lisa's behaviour is somewhat bizarre (to put it mildly)?

You would think Sonia would have picked up on this. I agree re EE not being must see TV, I don't want that to return to be fair, because that cannot be sustained and was the problem with DTC's era.

EE is far from perfect but I much prefer SOC's vision for the show. A Shame he has gone, I wonder what Yorky has got in store? As long as we don't have helicpoters falling into the the roof of the Community centre I think we will be okay. :thumbsup:

Rear window
01-08-2017, 10:23
As long as we don't have helicpoters falling into the the roof of the Community centre I think we will be okay. :thumbsup:

It'd be ok, it'll all be lifted up and no one injured but Max will realise he loves Carmen and the horrid blond, young Fi will be cast out on the heap to be picked up by Mick and rescued but not kissed.
Blearg!

tammyy2j
01-08-2017, 16:46
Does Lisa see Peggy?

Can we expect a surprise cameo ghostly return from Babs

lizann
01-08-2017, 20:08
so now whitney moving woody back in where he was kicked out of, why not get their own flat

flappinfanny
02-08-2017, 00:05
Does Lisa see Peggy?

Can we expect a surprise cameo ghostly return from Babs

Probably. If DTC was still in charge, yes. :D

flappinfanny
02-08-2017, 00:08
Mick is jealous of Whitney Why? Whitney and Woody, seems a little odd. Why is she still in the Vic, kick her out! Well Linda will when she's back I am sure.

The Taylors are setting into the square nicely. I am pleased Lisa has got one over on Phil.

It has gone to far with Max now, by this time next year Max will be gone. Perhaps that was Jake Woods plan, he will go onto do other projects for other broadcasters. He is a real talent and won't need to go down the docu route taken by Ross Kemp.

Splashy
02-08-2017, 02:25
I just think poor Whitney who has been used by men since she was very young is a very mixed up soul, and Eastenders have played her that way to their credit continuously without any sudden character shifts. It makes sense in her mind to come back with a man she knows Mick hates to get his attention and its working. Shes always had since her abuse this mx up of a farther figure and a lover.

Shirley as usual is trying to wreck the business, she would have them all out on the street and not care as long as she could control her son.

Max.. I like that he is making them pay but he needs to be careful with Abi that girls going to kill mark my words.

Lisa .. as long as she never says the word "baby" in that annoying way she always did way back when she can carry on her mad derranged activities.

tammyy2j
02-08-2017, 16:21
I like the Taylor family so far, the mother is funny but I wish her bra straps would stay up :p

flappinfanny
03-08-2017, 20:24
Thursday 7:30 pm

Lucy Benjamin is smashing it, it was almost to disturbing to watch. Lucy deserves an award. Is woody in with Leyland and stringing Whitless along?

I do feel sorry for Lauren, Max must really hate his daughter. After all this has ended Max will be a ruined charcater just like Ian and Jane.

I enjoyed the scenes with Joyce and Dot.

kaz21
03-08-2017, 22:32
Im glad Sharon stood up to Phil.

Splashy
04-08-2017, 00:17
Well done EE ... Shaz saw the illness in Lisa for what it was and she was maybe very right that in no small part Phil and Peggy were the route cause of it. Not that is possible to say with mental health to any real degree as the problem may have come no matter what the circumstances.

The core of it thou was Lou could see her mum meant her no harm and indeed could see in her own mixed up way was trying to protect her.

Poor whats his face taking a Police caution on behalf of his mum, alas that could cost him the chance of a lot of jobs, certainly any they require a back ground check. But no doubt he will end up at the archers.

Its a real circle, Max really screwed up his kids heads, they resented him and disowned him, now hes back to screw them over again because they did what they did because he is a vile man..this story line could go on forever.

lizann
04-08-2017, 00:23
bully phil come on max time to take revenge on him

wonder what max will make stephen do

parkerman
04-08-2017, 11:52
So, out of all the weeks in the year to choose from, Whitney had to choose a date for the wedding when Ryan is away on his honeymoon.

Dazzle
04-08-2017, 16:57
I thought last night's episodes were excellent. Lisa was heart wrenching, I loved it that Sharon was sympathetic to her plight, Phil at least had a glimpse of the damage he's wrought (and I hope there's more to come on that). Max's storyline is intriguing and plays to Jake Wood's strengths. The Taylor's are unexpectedly great.


I just think poor Whitney who has been used by men since she was very young is a very mixed up soul, and Eastenders have played her that way to their credit continuously without any sudden character shifts. It makes sense in her mind to come back with a man she knows Mick hates to get his attention and its working. Shes always had since her abuse this mx up of a farther figure and a lover.

I agree. Whitney gets a hell of a lot of stick on other internet sites but I've always sympathised with and understood her.

lizann
04-08-2017, 20:06
mick is so jealous

flappinfanny
04-08-2017, 23:31
Thursday 8:30pm

A very powerful episode. I agree, I am pleased Sharon was backing Lisa and it was nice to see Louise still loving her mother. We see Phil in his true colours and yes Phil has played a huge part in Lisa's condition.

Mick is a jealous idiot and hope Linda throws the Cockney twallop out on his ear along with the deluded Whitney. Can we swap Mick for Woody? I did feel for Keanu. Reminds me a bit of the Damon Grant storyline in Brookside.

Splashy
05-08-2017, 01:29
Micks situation is a bit off ... his wife and Mother have sold his pub out from under his feet, you could say they did with good intent but the forging of his signature by a lady who has only just become his recognized mum and only owns 10 percent of the gaff was nasty and self serving, and even now she is intent on destroying the business as she hates the women who she sold it to?

As for Linda, where is she. Plot wise shes placed her mum over the importance of all her family, I mean whats the point of having a wife if you never see her?

mysangry
05-08-2017, 11:35
How did PHil manage to reach Louise when he left the Square he drove down a dead end street??
or is the a secret place that is only visible to Angry Men??

Dazzle
05-08-2017, 18:27
Micks situation is a bit off ... his wife and Mother have sold his pub out from under his feet, you could say they did with good intent but the forging of his signature by a lady who has only just become his recognized mum and only owns 10 percent of the gaff was nasty and self serving, and even now she is intent on destroying the business as she hates the women who she sold it to?

As for Linda, where is she. Plot wise shes placed her mum over the importance of all her family, I mean whats the point of having a wife if you never see her?

The last few times we've seen Linda she's acted like she no longer wants to be Mick's wife. She's still staying away even though her mum looked as fit as a fiddle when we glimpsed her. I can't wait to find out what that's all about.

Dazzle
05-08-2017, 18:46
How did PHil manage to reach Louise when he left the Square he drove down a dead end street??
or is the a secret place that is only visible to Angry Men??

It's not a dead end, though admittedly it looks it at a glance. Phil lives at 55 Victoria Road (seen below in the bottom left hand corner):

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/eastenders/images/2/2d/Albert_square_map_14.gif/revision/latest?cb=20090307000411

I found this photo which shows more clearly that it's not a dead end (you can see the Victoria Road bus stop and a car just disappearing around the corner):

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/eastenders/images/0/0e/Victoria_Road_Bus_Stop.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20150120154105

Hopefully it'll look more realistic when the new set is built.

Timalay
05-08-2017, 23:23
This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUTEmCaFGdg) is what happens.

tammyy2j
06-08-2017, 22:50
So, out of all the weeks in the year to choose from, Whitney had to choose a date for the wedding when Ryan is away on his honeymoon.

And she cannot ask anyone else to walk her down the aisle but her ex father in law who she loves, could not Liam, Morgan, Terry or even Bianca do it

lizann
07-08-2017, 21:38
linda agreed with shirley to sell freehold behind mick's back, does she want away from vic maybe back with elaine to run her pub

was michelle eyeing up keanu, cant blame her as she does like them young

abi is max's daughter alright, enjoyed their wind up of stephen

parkerman
07-08-2017, 23:37
I had this really crazy idea tonight watching Eastenders, why doesn't Keanu look for a job away from the Square where the people don't know him? But I had a nice cup of tea and soon came to my senses....

flappinfanny
08-08-2017, 01:35
So Linda is back, loved the opening scenes, Kelly Bright has been so missed in the show, so pleased she is back now. Mick is a boy, Johnny is more of a man than he will ever be. Linda deserves so much better. I hope she kicks him in the nuts and tells him to do one and then throws Whitney out.

Is Keanu going to hook up with Ben? Poor Lauren, a devious Dad, a jealous revolting sister and a lying scum bag of a boyfriend.

A good Duff Duff. Can't wait for the 3 hander tomorrow. :)

Splashy
08-08-2017, 07:57
Poor Mick has been totally emasculated by all the women in his life.

All the women have their own agendas and Im wondering if Ls is to dump mick get her cut of Maxs buyout plans and do one back to her mums. To me its obvious she thinks Mick and Whit are more than they are.

Ah, it would be ironic if Lauren ends up being dragged dead to the park behind Janes wheel chair to be dumped while Abi and Steven hook up to raise her kid. I mean Abi has already tried to drown her once in the past.

Watch out new mechanic, there is a super duber uber cougar on to trail bloke..

mysangry
08-08-2017, 12:35
Hmm it's just when Phil got into his "big" car, I am sure I SAW a Street Sign that implied a "no way out" the sign that has a red bar on top of the T? in the direction he was turing
I will have to find it on catch up and see!
I could be wrong:crying:

mysangry
08-08-2017, 12:36
YOu mean like BENIDORM!!!!

mysangry
08-08-2017, 13:14
YES, I DEFINITELY SEE A DEAD END STREET SIGN RIGHT BESIDE PHILS CAR AS HE GETS IN AND DRIVES RIGHT, SO HOW DOES HE GET OUT OF THE "DEAD END"??????
Fridays episode 5th, about 3 mins into the episode, the workmen step aside to let PHil drive off to a "Dead ENd"

lizann
08-08-2017, 23:08
weak episode

flappinfanny
09-08-2017, 01:10
Kellie and Shona were very good in the 3 hander, Danny Dyer was okay, but seemd to be going though the motions. Glad Linda threw Whitney out. EastEnders was the better soap tonight, no quesiton, just a shame it had another clash with Emmerdale.

Splashy
09-08-2017, 03:28
I felt Danny didnt like this turn for Mick, the gezzers being emasculated by his mum his wife and his would be lover. All are having a pop, ridding over him and blaming him for all the wores and corruptions they have brought on themselves.

It has to asked which was the marriage destroying act, Linda being away for 8 months and selling off the pub without Micks permission or one lonely guy kissing a lady once be he was craving affection because of the above.

Lindas twisted blame of Whitney for poor judgements of her son where evil, didnt Whitney pay enough when she became his punching bag.

kaz21
09-08-2017, 09:30
I just felt like they kept repeating the same thing.

flappinfanny
09-08-2017, 10:36
I just felt like they kept repeating the same thing.

That's the problem with a 2, 3 hander, unlike itv soaps that are 22 minutes long, you have 27 minutes of EE to fill.

flappinfanny
09-08-2017, 10:44
I felt Danny didnt like this turn for Mick, the gezzers being emasculated by his mum his wife and his would be lover. All are having a pop, ridding over him and blaming him for all the wores and corruptions they have brought on themselves.

It has to asked which was the marriage destroying act, Linda being away for 8 months and selling off the pub without Micks permission or one lonely guy kissing a lady once be he was craving affection because of the above.

Lindas twisted blame of Whitney for poor judgements of her son where evil, didnt Whitney pay enough when she became his punching bag.

I agree, I don't think Dyer was keen on this storyline, he made it clear about his relationship with Linda and what he wanted for the characters and they have gone against this. It is similar as another poster has said to the storyline in Emmerdale with Zac, Lisa and Joanie. Both actors who play Zac and Lisa were less than impressed with the storyline and at times it showed in Steve's performance as Zac.

I think some times the script writers run out of ideas and go against the character and at times don't have a scooby. I suppose that's the nature of soap, a sausage factory keeping churning out the stuff week in week out and now we are currently getting 7 episodes of Emmerdale and soon 6 episodes of Coronation St a week, things are only going to get worse. The only good thing is EastEnders is staying at 4 episodes a week, I don't think the show could cope with anymore episodes right now and the BBC realise this.

melons1976
09-08-2017, 13:03
What do we think Linda's big secret is then? I'm thinking along the lines she's had a baby? she mentioned been away for nearly 8 months, she wouldn't of been showing then and she has now had the baby and possibly had it adopted???

Rear window
09-08-2017, 13:42
What do we think Linda's big secret is then? I'm thinking along the lines she's had a baby? she mentioned been away for nearly 8 months, she wouldn't of been showing then and she has now had the baby and possibly had it adopted???

Oo! There's an interesting thought!

Yes she was away 8 months ..

I don't know why Whitney told him she loved him, or why he told Linda he loved someone else.

It was all a bit of a waste of energy for the scriptwriter.

What happens next? Whitney gone from the pub and everyone wants to know why? Linda leaves and goes back to her secret?

lizann
09-08-2017, 19:09
What do we think Linda's big secret is then? I'm thinking along the lines she's had a baby? she mentioned been away for nearly 8 months, she wouldn't of been showing then and she has now had the baby and possibly had it adopted???

olly really dean's

kaz21
09-08-2017, 20:55
Thought they had ruled out that he was dean's.

lizann
09-08-2017, 22:35
Thought they had ruled out that he was dean's.

thought he was ruled mick's but maybe mistake and he is dean's

Splashy
10-08-2017, 06:32
Yeah you could be onto something Melons.. she did come back for her 40th, but couldnt rush off quick enough.

In the three hander she was obsessed with the kiss and blaming Mick, every time he had a valid point she would say, what are you laying this on me now, how dare you etc, typical deflection. I mean she was looking for an excuse to end it with him and had originally deceided it would be Bea but Whitney was a real gift in my books. I think her line about how they married to young and she should of let Mick roam the field before they hooked up said more about her than him.

Yep... EEis struggling to keep its audiance with 4 epps a week they couldnt do more, but then its got to be remembered their epps are at least 10 mins longer as they have no add breaks.

tammyy2j
10-08-2017, 14:13
Where was Johnny, Shirley and Tina during the rowing, no noise from the baby also?

Dazzle
10-08-2017, 15:46
Where was Johnny, Shirley and Tina during the rowing, no noise from the baby also?

Johnny said he was staying at a mate's house, and Shirley and Tina went out to give Linda and Mick some space.

Dazzle
10-08-2017, 16:00
I felt Danny didnt like this turn for Mick, the gezzers being emasculated by his mum his wife and his would be lover. All are having a pop, ridding over him and blaming him for all the wores and corruptions they have brought on themselves.

It has to asked which was the marriage destroying act, Linda being away for 8 months and selling off the pub without Micks permission or one lonely guy kissing a lady once be he was craving affection because of the above.

Lindas twisted blame of Whitney for poor judgements of her son where evil, didnt Whitney pay enough when she became his punching bag.

Sorry Splashy, but I don't agree that Mick has been emasculated by the women in his life. Yes, Linda's been away for eight months (looking after her sick mother for all of that time—or at least so he thinks), but she was only an hour away and he's surrounded by family. I'm not saying that Linda, or any of the others, are innocent (I think it was terrible that they sold the freehold from under him for instance), but neither is he. He's a bit of a bully who makes everything about himself, and is too stubborn to ask for help when he needs it. He treated the depressed Lee appallingly (even though I understand that some of Lee's actions would be very hard to forgive). He stood there and allowed Linda to assault and chuck Whitney out when he knows he's just as guilty, and that he's the one who wouldn't let their attraction go.

Basically, everyone's to blame for the situation—including that martyr Mick. :moonie:



Kellie and Shona were very good in the 3 hander, Danny Dyer was okay, but seemd to be going though the motions. Glad Linda threw Whitney out. EastEnders was the better soap tonight, no quesiton, just a shame it had another clash with Emmerdale.

I thought the three hander was OK, and yes Kellie and Shone were both excellent as usual.

Danny Dyer's been phoning it in for a while now. I can understand it if he doesn't like the storyline, but if his acting has deteriorated for that reason then someone needs to remind him that he's a professional and to pull his socks up. He's gets paid enough, for goodness sake.

I'm hoping John Yorke will revert Mick back to the nice guy he was when he first moved to Albert Square. He seemed liked a real breath of fresh air at the time.

lizann
10-08-2017, 18:01
whitney did tell linda go back look after her mother, leave her family i didn't imagine that did i?

Dazzle
10-08-2017, 18:29
whitney did tell linda go back look after her mother, leave her family i didn't imagine that did i?

No, I've got a vague memory of that happening.

xx_Dan_xx
10-08-2017, 18:40
Am I the only one bit confused with why Whitney returned to the pub? I know she's been treated like family but that connection is no longer and she's now getting married to someone else on top of the fact she kissed and wanted more with Mick. I just think its weird she wanted to return and essentially live indefinitely there after everything. Not to mention Woody works at Linda's mum's bar so surely Linda was aware of Woody and Whitney's relationship before coming back and proposal.

Finally, if Mick loves Linda so much and wants his future to be with here, why let Whitney back...

I was such a big fan of Mick when he came into the soap and when the whole Dean storyline happened.. A marriage like that doesnt get broken in 8 months. Not every couple on every soap have to go through this.

Glad the producer left and we have a new one.

Perdita
10-08-2017, 19:07
Am I the only one bit confused with why Whitney returned to the pub? I know she's been treated like family but that connection is no longer and she's now getting married to someone else on top of the fact she kissed and wanted more with Mick. I just think its weird she wanted to return and essentially live indefinitely there after everything. Not to mention Woody works at Linda's mum's bar so surely Linda was aware of Woody and Whitney's relationship before coming back and proposal.

Finally, if Mick loves Linda so much and wants his future to be with here, why let Whitney back...

I was such a big fan of Mick when he came into the soap and when the whole Dean storyline happened.. A marriage like that doesnt get broken in 8 months. Not every couple on every soap have to go through this.

Glad the producer left and we have a new one.

Dan, I have given up trying to figure out why certain things happen and why certain people in soapland do things that you and I and everybody sane else would know would not happen .. but it is drama and I guess it is best not to question things too far .. although the writers really really test us at times lately.. well they test me for sure

Dazzle
10-08-2017, 19:35
Am I the only one bit confused with why Whitney returned to the pub? I know she's been treated like family but that connection is no longer and she's now getting married to someone else on top of the fact she kissed and wanted more with Mick. I just think its weird she wanted to return and essentially live indefinitely there after everything. Not to mention Woody works at Linda's mum's bar so surely Linda was aware of Woody and Whitney's relationship before coming back and proposal.

To be fair, Whitney didn't expect to live in the pub again and was surprised when she was invited to do so. She still feels close to the whole family and the Vic feels like home. I agree it's not very realistic though.



Finally, if Mick loves Linda so much and wants his future to be with here, why let Whitney back...

He was in a quandary I suppose. He still loves Linda and doesn't want their marriage to end, but this newer infatuation felt more real (not to mention exciting) while Linda was absent.

lizann
10-08-2017, 19:57
el still wants mick in her dog house

there was no reason for whitney to return let alone return to vic

xx_Dan_xx
10-08-2017, 20:01
el still wants mick in her dog house

there was no reason for whitney to return let alone return to vic

Exactly... And she hasn't gone off back to where-ever she disappeared to or where-ever Woody is living. She's gone to Stacey's. She doesn't have a home in Walford anymore.

lizann
10-08-2017, 20:32
if whitney was with woody at elaine's pub she knows how well elaine is, none of this storyline making sense and mick sounds like he wants to have a jump off someone other than his el, the only one he has been with

cora back and wising up stevo, bet she discovers his jumping with abs

flappinfanny
11-08-2017, 00:50
Wonderful to have Cora back. Ann Mitchell a class act. I liked how she asked after Denise with real concern.

Mick has no backbone a pathetic excuse for a man. Linda don't take him back.

parkerman
11-08-2017, 10:00
So Max is having his "affair" with Carmel, with the full blessing of Fi, so they can find out who is voting against their building proposal.

Now, here's a thought, why don't they go on to the Walford Council website and have a look at the agendas and associated papers and the minutes of the Planning Comittee meetings or, go along to the Planning Committee meetings, all of which would be open to the public. It seems to me to be a more sure fire way of finding out what's happening than relying on some tittle tattle from a fairly low ranking officer in the Planning Department; all above board and without the inherent risks.

Dazzle
11-08-2017, 11:09
So Max is having his "affair" with Carmel, with the full blessing of Fi, so thye can find out who is voting against their building proposal.

Now, here's a thought, why don't they go on to the Walford Council website and have a look at the agendas and associated papers and the minutes of the Planning Comittee meetings or, go along to the Planning Committee meetings, all of which would be open to the public. It seems to me to be a more sure fire way of finding out what's happening than relying on some tittle tattle from a fairly low ranking officer in the Planning Department; all above board and without the inherent risks.

I didn't realise that information was open to everyone since I know nothing about how councils work, but it's bizarre that the writers didn't research it. Plus the line that gave the councillor's name away to Max was extremely contrived.


I did like that we saw a flicker of a guilty conscience from Max even though it didn't last long. If he's to be redeemed and stick around after this storyline's over, he needs to realise the error of his ways at some point and start working against Fi and the Chairman. I don't believe that Fi really cares for Max.

Dazzle
11-08-2017, 11:10
Wonderful to have Cora back. Ann Mitchell a class act. I liked how she asked after Denise with real concern.

Mick has no backbone a pathetic excuse for a man. Linda don't take him back.

I wish Cora would move back to Albert Square.

parkerman
11-08-2017, 13:11
I didn't realise that information was open to everyone since I know nothing about how councils work, but it's bizarre that the writers didn't research it.
Soap writers never research the workings of councils. Both EE and Corrie just make it up as they go along. They write about it from pure ignorance assuming that most people watching don't know how they work either.

Perdita
11-08-2017, 16:53
Soap writers never research the workings of councils. Both EE and Corrie just make it up as they go along. They write about it from pure ignorance assuming that most people watching don't know how they work either.

To be fair, their storylines would rarely allow them to spend so much time going through the real procedures because they can't wait 18 months or more for some planning permission to be granted because (a) important actor in that storyline might want to leave before the conclusion and of course it would hold up a lot of other storylines depending on the outcome of this decision

parkerman
11-08-2017, 16:55
To be fair, their storylines would rarely allow them to spend so much time going through the real procedures because they can't wait 18 months or more for some planning permission to be granted because the actor might want to leave before then ....
18 months!?

Perdita
11-08-2017, 16:58
18 months!?
Depending on whatever decision has to be made .. talking general, not specific

parkerman
11-08-2017, 18:21
Depending on whatever decision has to be made .. talking general, not specific
Three to six months would be more like it. Eighteen months would be an awfully long time for a decision to be made on any planning application.

Perdita
11-08-2017, 19:56
Three to six months would be more like it. Eighteen months would be an awfully long time for a decision to be made on any planning application.

Never been involved in any of it so was just guessing but even 6 months would be too long to wait in a storyline unless of course you murder someone --

lizann
13-08-2017, 20:30
Wonderful to have Cora back. Ann Mitchell a class act. I liked how she asked after Denise with real concern.

Mick has no backbone a pathetic excuse for a man. Linda don't take him back.

he acting like it whitney he wants not el and why has whitney not gone off to woody her fiance

Glen1
14-08-2017, 22:49
Thought Linda was more streetwise than to fall for all that crap off Fi to re-employ Whitney, and see Fi's motive. Also what's happened to Linda,s big secret?

flappinfanny
14-08-2017, 23:15
It is good EastEnders remembers it's past, something Emmerdale want to forget and Coronation Street can't be bothered to get right since Daran Little left.

I still want to slap Mick silly. Poor Keanu, he is such a lovable guy. You have to admire his determination. I think Kush will knock Max out when he eventually finds out what is cracking off. I wouldn't want to be in Max's shoes. I wonder if Ben and Jay will fall out over what Phil is suggesting?

lizann
15-08-2017, 00:07
bex and her teach move over sonia it is bex and the teach happening

parkerman
15-08-2017, 10:29
I'm not so sure that for a prime location like Walford that £300K for the car lot is "over the top". It sounds quite reasonable to me.

flappinfanny
15-08-2017, 11:08
Will Jay sell to Max?

tammyy2j
15-08-2017, 15:21
Carmel falls quick

Perdita
15-08-2017, 15:37
Carmel falls quick

You have to in soapland .. never know when you get the sack :lol:

Rear window
15-08-2017, 18:08
I'm not so sure that for a prime location like Walford that £300K for the car lot is "over the top". It sounds quite reasonable to me.

I thought it was a very tiny amount of money.

But apparently theyhave done their research. Rightmove E17 (LOL for a postcode)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-48442014.html
£300k

parkerman
15-08-2017, 23:40
I thought it was a very tiny amount of money.

But apparently theyhave done their research. Rightmove E17 (LOL for a postcode)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-48442014.html
£300k

E17 is Walthamstow - a bit further out than where Walford is supposed to be. Walford would be more expensive.

Dennis tanner
16-08-2017, 20:05
Will Jay sell to Max?

I hope so

lizann
16-08-2017, 22:04
phil could have given something to billy and his family and lola and lexi as he including jay denny and ray

flappinfanny
16-08-2017, 23:16
I don't feel sorry for Ben. Got to admire Keanu for trying. So Keegan is not called Taylor and has a different surname? Bravo to Shakil for putting Max in his place. Whitney has got some neck accepting her job back at the Vic.

The teacher Mr Pryce comes across as very creepy. :hmm:

parkerman
16-08-2017, 23:34
I don't feel sorry for Ben.

Me neither. He got exactly what he wanted, the Arches.

Dennis tanner
17-08-2017, 00:43
phil could have given something to billy and his family and lola and lexi as he including jay denny and ray

He has that much wealth, the BBC can't count it

lizann
17-08-2017, 00:47
He has that much wealth, the BBC can't count it

max should take it all

parkerman
17-08-2017, 20:08
In the whole history of Eastenders has anyone ever cooked a dinner for a dinner party which hasn't finished up burnt?

lizann
17-08-2017, 20:50
where did steven burn, ian's restaurant?

kaz21
17-08-2017, 21:27
Flat max, couldn't get the tenants out of.

Dennis tanner
17-08-2017, 21:37
In the whole history of Eastenders has anyone ever cooked a dinner for a dinner party which hasn't finished up burnt?

Ruined special meals are an EE cliche

flappinfanny
17-08-2017, 23:22
max should take it all

No I want Max in the gutter with nothing, with Cora looking down on him smiling. :thumbsup:

flappinfanny
17-08-2017, 23:24
Why do so many things happen off screen? it does my head in. Not sure we should have a property torched in current times. Max is a tool. He is ruined as a character, but so is Ian and Jane, so does that matter?

Loved Linda tonight, marking Whitney's card. Ben needs a slap. The episode was ok but annoying at times.

lizann
18-08-2017, 00:51
so ted and his missus who hate taylor family are storing their fridge food, i thought karen was claiming all social benefits available

Dennis tanner
18-08-2017, 05:29
so ted and his missus who hate taylor family are storing their fridge food, i thought karen was claiming all social benefits available

You would think she would know the system.

Rear window
18-08-2017, 20:06
so ted and his missus who hate taylor family are storing their fridge food, i thought karen was claiming all social benefits available

she smokes.
have you seen the price of them?

lizann
18-08-2017, 20:57
jase didn't die in car lot fire that was homeless fella

kaz21
18-08-2017, 22:01
jase didn't die in car lot fire that was homeless fella

Exactly, so that means Phil must either think jase wasn't jays dad or know he wasn't.

Dennis tanner
19-08-2017, 05:56
Phil is going gaga

flappinfanny
19-08-2017, 23:12
The Jay/Phil storyline is utter boulder dash. If memory serves me right, Jason was beaten to a pulp by a gang and Billy was hiding in the shower scared stiff. The guy in the car lot was a tramp? How would phil know the tramp was Jay's father? So many holes in this storyline already, it is like a bar of Aero. It comes across as very Emmerdale. Emmerdale and Corrie Street can get away with messing their history up, EastEnders can't. We expect much more.

Memo to the big wigs at the Beeb, don't treat your audience like idiots, some of us have been watching for a very long time and we know what's what, probably better than some of your script writers and archivists.

Dennis tanner
20-08-2017, 05:53
The Jay/Phil storyline is utter boulder dash. If memory serves me right, Jason was beaten to a pulp by a gang and Billy was hiding in the shower scared stiff. The guy in the car lot was a tramp? How would phil know the tramp was Jay's father? So many holes in this storyline already, it is like a bar of Aero. It comes across as very Emmerdale. Emmerdale and Corrie Street can get away with messing their history up, EastEnders can't. We expect much more.

Memo to the big wigs at the Beeb, don't treat your audience like idiots, some of us have been watching for a very long time and we know what's what, probably better than some of your script writers and archivists.

They insult us !!!!

kaz21
20-08-2017, 10:22
They insult us !!!!

So are they now, going to tell us jase just stole jays dad identity. As Jase and Jay were estranged.

Rear window
20-08-2017, 10:52
The Jay/Phil storyline is utter boulder dash. If memory serves me right, Jason was beaten to a pulp by a gang and Billy was hiding in the shower scared stiff. The guy in the car lot was a tramp? How would phil know the tramp was Jay's father? So many holes in this storyline already, it is like a bar of Aero. It comes across as very Emmerdale. Emmerdale and Corrie Street can get away with messing their history up, EastEnders can't. We expect much more.

Memo to the big wigs at the Beeb, don't treat your audience like idiots, some of us have been watching for a very long time and we know what's what, probably better than some of your script writers and archivists.

Can we send this them on a 40ft high banner?

lizann
21-08-2017, 20:29
i agree jay this makes no sense

kaz21
21-08-2017, 20:35
Was a good episode. But wtf is going on?!

lizann
21-08-2017, 20:42
Was a good episode. But wtf is going on?!

how does phil know all this, oh wait it is lies by who, jay's mother or grandfather or is jase alive?

Timalay
21-08-2017, 20:48
or Max is forcing Phil to lie to Jay as revenge, in the whole going down for Lucy's murder.

lizann
21-08-2017, 21:24
or Max is forcing Phil to lie to Jay as revenge, in the whole going down for Lucy's murder.

interesting could be

flappinfanny
22-08-2017, 00:55
What the hell have i just watched?

Strong performances from Steve and Jamie, the only positive thing I can say really.

The rest was an insult to the intelligence of the viewer. I think this episode had Oliver Kent written all over this sadly. EE is fast becoming a state of no return for me.

That is me done with the show for a bit anyway, I'll stick to The Archers.

Rear window
22-08-2017, 09:59
What the hell have i just watched?

Strong performances from Steve and Jamie, the only positive thing I can say really.

The rest was an insult to the intelligence of the viewer. I think this episode had Oliver Kent written all over this sadly. EE is fast becoming a state of no return for me.

That is me done with the show for a bit anyway, I'll stick to The Archers.


Is it worth watching?

I'm not sure I can be bothered.

I've missed a couple recently and would have been itching to put it on iplayer, but there's increasingly less rush!

flappinfanny
22-08-2017, 10:41
Is it worth watching?

I'm not sure I can be bothered.

I've missed a couple recently and would have been itching to put it on iplayer, but there's increasingly less rush!

The acting was good, but you will be none the wiser whats going on by the end?

parkerman
22-08-2017, 20:04
A sing song round the ol' Joanna in an Eastend pub. Lambeth Walk and Maybe it's Because I'm a Londoner. Not too cliche ridden then!

Perdita
22-08-2017, 20:14
A sing song round the ol' Joanna in an Eastend pub. Lambeth Walk and Maybe it's Because I'm a Londoner. Not too cliche ridden then!

What about Knees Up Mother Brown??

lizann
22-08-2017, 21:21
max telling vincent sell up, he wants his pub too

parkerman
22-08-2017, 22:31
What about Knees Up Mother Brown??
Yes, they missed that one! :lol:

Dennis tanner
23-08-2017, 16:36
A sing song round the ol' Joanna in an Eastend pub. Lambeth Walk and Maybe it's Because I'm a Londoner. Not too cliche ridden then!

It's for the USA market

Perdita
23-08-2017, 17:04
It's for the USA market

Are Americans nowadays familiar with Lambeth Walk and other songs from that time?

mysangry
23-08-2017, 17:13
Yes, they missed that one! :lol:

Not sure I really needed to hear a batch of London Tunes? This is sooooooooo dull and nothing is fresh.:sick:
How many times do we have to hear these worn out songs over the years!!

Why Americans? Have I missed some americans living in the Square?
Would be nice if we could just have a show that is not always sending a message, so many boxes always needing ticked:wall

I think it would be nice if we could have some other English people living in Walford, maybe some Geordies? Or Scouse'ers
YOu know real old english folk who have their own traditions, think we need to remember (along with all the diversity messages)
London is the Capital of England and there are other English towns that could inject some freshness into this dreary square.

tammyy2j
24-08-2017, 16:15
Is Abi the only cook in the pub since Babe left or does Linda and Mick also cook?

lizann
24-08-2017, 20:53
Is Abi the only cook in the pub since Babe left or does Linda and Mick also cook?

mickey mallet a cook, who would ate his food maybe whitney :p i thought it was pre made food just needing re heating

was that libby working for billy? seriously thought it was

no more on jack contacting matthew only him and nanny

Dennis tanner
27-08-2017, 23:44
mickey mallet a cook, who would ate his food maybe whitney :p i thought it was pre made food just needing re heating

was that libby working for billy? seriously thought it was

no more on jack contacting matthew only him and nanny
There is no way I would eat a meal in that pub

lizann
28-08-2017, 22:02
bradley remembered and bert returns but will he continue phil's lie?

woody and el drunk flirting banter at lunch was funny

flappinfanny
28-08-2017, 23:49
When did Shirley cook a roast? Good on Linda. Nice to see Bert at the end.

lizann
29-08-2017, 19:53
was that dog tablets abi gave stephen to make him ill?

parkerman
29-08-2017, 20:18
Has Lauren never thought it strange that Steven has never shown any sign of being ill, despite having only two months to live?

Glen1
29-08-2017, 20:51
was that dog tablets abi gave stephen to make him ill?
Sure were, can't wait for him to ask Lauren to throw him a stick.

kaz21
29-08-2017, 21:03
Has Lauren never thought it strange that Steven has never shown any sign of being ill, despite having only two months to live?

My dad didn't show any symptoms other than a cough, until about a month before he died of stage four lung cancer. So its not completely unrealistic.

lizann
29-08-2017, 21:23
Sure were, can't wait for him to ask Lauren to throw him a stick.

fetch fetch boy :p

mick still thinks him and whitney did nothing wrong with linda :angry:

parkerman
29-08-2017, 23:15
My dad didn't show any symptoms other than a cough, until about a month before he died of stage four lung cancer. So its not completely unrealistic.
Thank you, kaz. I'm very sorry to hear about your dad. Yes, I'm sure that can happen, but brain tumours are normally different. Look, for example at how Corrie is treating Rita's brain tumour - that's how it affects people that I have known with a brain tumour. Still I suppose everyone is different, but I am a bit surprised that she hasn't wondered why he seems to be showing no effects at all.

tammyy2j
30-08-2017, 14:48
My dad didn't show any symptoms other than a cough, until about a month before he died of stage four lung cancer. So its not completely unrealistic.

I am sorry to hear that but I would think Stephen should have some un well signs, I know Lauren asked him about his headaches, he has "only a few months left"

lizann
31-08-2017, 21:05
stupid leaving his dog tablets out so openly to be found

kaz21
31-08-2017, 21:43
That's what I said lol.

lizann
01-09-2017, 20:58
and again stupid not thinking baby monitor on after just hearing louis with jane downstairs and abi getting herself up duffy for stephen

how did stephen think even married to lauren he'd get custody of louis or is that max's plan

Rear window
01-09-2017, 21:23
wasn't there something in the weekly plot info about him adopting the baby?

kaz21
01-09-2017, 21:33
He asked Lauren about adopting him. Lauren said they would have to talk to Peter.

lizann
02-09-2017, 00:42
He asked Lauren about adopting him. Lauren said they would have to talk to Peter.

i would hope peter would not want his son adopted by stephen, where ever peter is, still in new zealand?

kaz21
02-09-2017, 11:05
I did wonder if that was Laurens plan.

lizann
02-09-2017, 19:38
does max know abi and stephen cheating?

kaz21
03-09-2017, 11:16
I don't think so.

flappinfanny
04-09-2017, 00:07
Decided to jump back on the horse as it is a big episode on Monday. I did find Donna funny when she said to Abi about having some whoopi:-

'Come on Ab's, I want details, all of them. This body hasn't seen action in so long, the next bloke that comes along 'ill have to bring a canary to make sure it's safe.'

So what is the relationship between Fi and Josh?

The scenes with Jane, Abi and Steven were very good.

lizann
04-09-2017, 22:03
jane conveniently overhears fi and max very anti climatic episode

Splashy
04-09-2017, 23:48
Was that one of Kin Yong Unns rocket attacks :rotfl:

Her being in a wheel chair will make it much easier to dump Janes body on a common!

Linda pathetically looking for any excuse to flounce off again.

flappinfanny
05-09-2017, 00:06
I enjoyed the episode apart from the end, but EE don't do stunts but there will be further blasts this week.

The sceens with Max and Jane were excellent and I cheered when Billy thumped Phil. I agree Linda must be wearing the wheels of her suitcase out with all the comings and goings. Abi is a delicious cow, rotten to the core.

Some of the comments on social media and another forum we won't mention were moaning about the stunt. Sadly much of the soap audience of today (who are a little bit wanting) expect big budget style stunts and are disappointed when they don't get them. This is the BBC and Elstree and not 20th Century Fox and Hollywood. (Rolls eyes and tuts)

parkerman
05-09-2017, 11:26
So now Jane takes the moral high ground over Max. :angry:

That's it, I'm afraid. I am now officially done with Eastenders. (One good side benefit of that is not having to listen to Mick and L's interminable whingeing and whining!)

tammyy2j
05-09-2017, 16:07
I thought Abi might kill Jane :p

parkerman
05-09-2017, 16:42
I thought Abi might kill Jane :p
If only.....

lizann
05-09-2017, 21:18
If only.....

stephen doing it for you pman :p and giving evil jane a few home truths finally

poor linda battling cancer and mick chasing tail

Rear window
05-09-2017, 21:39
why wouldn't you share the cancer news with your husband?

Becks and teacher unnecessary.

Splashy
05-09-2017, 23:19
Totally tuned out what Linda was saying so missed that reveal.

Is this some post trauma relationship Bex and Teach are having? Just seems like something some writer sneezed up when they had bad flu and couldnt be bothered to create a good plot.

Its happened again Jane, you forgave Bobby what he did, he then tried to kill you, you forgave Steven for shooting you and now hes trying to kill you..... im seeing a pattern here .

Can the Police please hold Martin till they can recruit another less awful actor to play the part of Stays man.

Alas poor Big Mac from BBCs Doctors also known as James Herriot playing out the worst scene in soap history involving a gun.. who did he shoot.. his career is my best guess :cartman::angel:

Lets hope it was Tracy, it frustrates me that in all the years shes been on the show shes only ever allowed three words per year... actually thinking about it she would make a great wife. :cool::ninja::cartman::rotfl:

flappinfanny
05-09-2017, 23:28
So now Jane takes the moral high ground over Max. :angry:

That's it, I'm afraid. I am now officially done with Eastenders. (One good side benefit of that is not having to listen to Mick and L's interminable whingeing and whining!)

In the words of Arnie "you'll be back." :D

flappinfanny
05-09-2017, 23:29
A good episode. As much as Jane is a ruined character now, I hope Jane does not die, but if they want the Max storyline to drag on I can't see any other solution? It was griping from start to finish, not perfect but enjoyable and now we have to wait until Thursday. :(

Rear window
06-09-2017, 09:09
A good episode. As much as Jane is a ruined character now, I hope Jane does not die, but if they want the Max storyline to drag on I can't see any other solution? It was griping from start to finish, not perfect but enjoyable and now we have to wait until Thursday. :(

Yes, for once I am looking forward to watching the next episode rather than thinking "oh what a pile of poop"

But there's some silly fluffy bits in it still have been mentioned above. And the whole Linda storyline seems silly.

It was creepy watching Max put his arm round Stacey!

parkerman
06-09-2017, 11:11
Can someone just let me know if Winston is ok, so I can stop worrying. I couldn't sleep last night....

Perdita
06-09-2017, 11:20
Can someone just let me know if Winston is ok, so I can stop worrying. I couldn't sleep last night....

I will watch it just for you until I have spotted him :D

kaz21
06-09-2017, 13:05
Bit obvious who was shot, tho I felt so sorry for Ted. He was obviously suffering PTSD.

tammyy2j
06-09-2017, 16:12
So does Linda still have cancer, I am glad she did not cheat

I think she did not tell Mick as he did not cope well with Lee's illness or Nancy's injuries, I think I despise him more knowing she was sick and he after Whitney :angry:

Who was Linda and Elaine referring to as Princess in her pub, was that Woody?

lizann
07-09-2017, 00:37
Can someone just let me know if Winston is ok, so I can stop worrying. I couldn't sleep last night....

jane hit him with her crutch and left him for dead and is waiting to move him to common, miserable wagon

only messing pman i believe he is a-ok

abi telling louie her mommy plans :lol:

parkerman
07-09-2017, 08:13
jane hit him with her crutch and left him for dead and is waiting to move him to common, miserable wagon

only messing pman i believe he is a-ok


I know you say you are only messing, lizann, but I wouldn't put it past Jane to do somthing like that. She is evil! :ninja:

lizann
07-09-2017, 18:28
I know you say you are only messing, lizann, but I wouldn't put it past Jane to do somthing like that. She is evil! :ninja:

she devil woman

i did enjoy stephen telling her it all her fault as her protecting killer bobby caused a colossal effect

lizann
07-09-2017, 20:01
well oh my so much happening, who dies, looks like stephen internal bleeding

please no affair for linda and jack

kaz21
07-09-2017, 20:03
Let's hope for Abi, Stephen and jane lol

Rear window
07-09-2017, 22:41
hahahahaha excellent.
i had just said to husband that an ambulance would get hit! and one did!

lizann
07-09-2017, 22:53
mick wants to spend time with any woman except his wife, off with whitney and now off with fi who next dot

thought all the ambulances would crash into each other

id say stephen a goner and jane will survive to ruin more lives

flappinfanny
07-09-2017, 23:26
Can someone just let me know if Winston is ok, so I can stop worrying. I couldn't sleep last night....

:rotfl:

flappinfanny
07-09-2017, 23:28
Maggie Steed really impressed me tonight and was the stand out performance for me. I am biased because I do like the actress. Maggie was in one of my all time favourite detective shows, "pie in the sky" which also starred a very young Samantha Womack (Janus) as she was then.

I thought to start with that Fi's dad is the character played by Simon Williams and perhaps Josh is her brother? Is the Simon Williams character infact Wilmott Brown played by a different actor?

I can't work out who dies, I don't think it will be Jane or Johnny, but we will have to see?

Splashy
07-09-2017, 23:32
Since when did London have its hospitals set in the middle of nowhere up country lanes :ninja:

I thought the actor that plays Johnny made for a very realistic corpse, far better than his being alive acting :angel:

One quibble thou, the lady with the gun was arrested and the cuffs placed behind her back, next moment the cuffs are on her front as she leans against the car, she must be very flexible to do that, no wonder the guy put up with her cooking for so many years. :cartman:

Yes and umm .. so Mr Beales ,why was the fire exit blocked, the sprinklers switched off at the mains and the fire start on a table because vodka was poured on it. But then EE Trumpton isnt very bright or ever there on time or at all.

Max and Lynda... isnt he already mounting the help :moonie:

All in all very entertaining, thank you BBC

lizann
08-09-2017, 02:49
how does businesses and homes get insurance, must be sky high all damage from catastrophies happening there :p

Perdita
08-09-2017, 06:03
how does businesses and homes get insurance, must be sky high all damage from catastrophies happening there :p

They usually don't have any .... :p

Rear window
08-09-2017, 09:36
I did really enjoy the nonsense of it all and genuinely can't wait for tonight's.

parkerman
08-09-2017, 09:59
In the words of Arnie "you'll be back." :D

Ok, ok, I admit I did watch last night's episode, because I'd heard it might be the one where Jane gets her comeuppance (though I should have known that of course she won't).

Now, about that fire, in spite of Steven spreading alcohol everywhere, the fire never seemed to get any bigger. There were just little patches of fire dotted around the place that didn't spread anywhere. Also, when someone asked why the fire engines were taking so long, someone mentioned a fire at the Town Hall. Now, how long after the gas explosion was the fire supposed to take place? Surely the fire engines would still have been on the Square, especially after something like a gas explosion, making sure everything was safe.

And, as splashy said, where did those country lanes come from!?

Oh well, that's me off again....

P.S. Still no news of Winston?

Splashy
08-09-2017, 22:44
Winston is currently being held in the potting shed by all the un baby sat kids on the square who have now gone feral, their ring leader is Pearl who like her daddy is a gangster.

So Stevo has carped it and Mrs McGrew sorry I mean Jane lives on. Of course she wont name Max because she wont want to upset Ian and so the sorry circle continues. The only people suffering here are us viewers.

Poor teacher bloke is in for a world of pain, Bex is now bound to go all love lorn and cant see why they cant be together, right down to the I will wait for you ater prison convo.

Poor unconscious Paramedic in the back of the ambulance, Lynda didnt give a shed about him or her.

lizann
08-09-2017, 23:43
poor abi up duffy by stephen who now loves her and then he stuffs it

parkerman
09-09-2017, 00:01
Winston is currently being held in the potting shed by all the un baby sat kids on the square who have now gone feral, their ring leader is Pearl who like her daddy is a gangster.:(:crying::eek:

lizann
09-09-2017, 03:53
anyone check on dot and paddy?

Rear window
09-09-2017, 10:13
As Max was lurking looking through the door at Jane going in, I was shouting "Don't let him in there" .. He's going to have to finish the job.
Maybe he'll get caught and get sent down for something he actually did.