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I also thought it a bit unbelievable that a) Les would look through his bag during the day in the office when Pam could walk in any time and b) that he would change into Christine in the house when again Pam could walk in on him at any time, even though it was night time.
I felt he was so stressed that it was almost a compulsion to seek relief by becoming Christine. His stress was made worse by Pam's hypocrisy - and I expect Christine's outfit being so close at hand made it impossible to resist.
im still against donna having a kid with vincent, surprised claudette is for it but she wants back in good with him, they call each other brother and sister and same mother even if not by blood so the baby dad is also it's uncle, i can see why kim is upset, im sure vincent would help donna financially for a donor
The Donna/Vincent child storyline is being soooo badly handled. It's an interesting moral dilemma which - from reading other sites as well as SoapBoards - I can see engenders some strong feelings. It should have been treated with kid gloves.
Instead it's been incredibly rushed, with no build-up, and with people acting totally out of character (Denise NOT having a fit about it? :eek:). Was it really necessary to have Donna ovulating the episode straight after Kim was strong-armed into agreeing? And did we have to witness such cringeworthy insemination scenes? I would have been quite happy for that to have happened totally off screen. Richard Blackwood seems very uncomfortable which isn't helping.
I had assumed they'd use a clinic since Vincent isn't short of a bob or two. Also, I'm wondering about Donna's disability and whether it can be inherited? Why hasn't that been mentioned?
I enjoyed the Jane/Ian and Steven/Ian make up scenes, and also Paul giving a very pathetic Les permission to be himself. The relief on his face was very moving. :crying:
I felt he was so stressed that it was almost a compulsion to seek relief by becoming Christine. His stress was made worse by Pam's hypocrisy - and I expect Christine's outfit being so close at hand made it impossible to resist.
he did check his pulse :p was he having a slight minor heart attack that stopped when he became christine
im not buying this caring sensitive steven, bobby killed his sister, he has to have a revenge plan
I felt he was so stressed that it was almost a compulsion to seek relief by becoming Christine. His stress was made worse by Pam's hypocrisy - and I expect Christine's outfit being so close at hand made it impossible to resist.
he did check his pulse :p was he having a slight minor heart attack that stopped when he became christine
im not buying this caring sensitive steven, bobby killed his sister, he has to have a revenge plan
im not buying this caring sensitive steven, bobby killed his sister, he has to have a revenge plan
I definitely think the old Steven is hiding in there somewhere. Whether he's secretly planning revenge or has convinced himself he's truly changed I've no idea - but hopefully it'll be fun finding out. The twisted teenaged Steven stalking Ian storyline is a favourite of mine so I'm very happy he's back. :D
Donna hasnt sort any medical advice and neither have been screened, this can only end well.:wall:
I mean financially Kim by marriage becomes responsible for another child's upkeep, so its natural for her to want to defend her own child over some other women using emotional blackmail to use her husband to create another.
Stephen had my blood boiling, I hate bods whos whole drive is about themselves, yes I shot you and now you are lying in bed unable to boot me out so Im going to speel my splean at you for my own reasons of guilt to hell with you the victim Im the one thats suffered not you.
I agree that Stephen isnt on the level, I mean somehow he has nabbed Peters girl and baby and used them to get himself a card to play to come back and dont get me started on how he keeps calling her babe like he cant remember her name.
Lauren by her very presence in the Beales house is a continuing betrayal of Max, these people sent him to prison covering up for their devil spawn with no hint of guilt and she wonders why he wants no contact.
No Carol? Like Jack she presumes and condemed him as guilty and now cant deal with the truth of his inocence, although he did go out of his way to look guilty at the time.
parkerman
11-06-2016, 10:32
I am announcing that I am officially giving up on Eastenders. This sympathetic portrayal of Jane and Ian as the victims in all this is more than I can stomach.
I might be back when Max returns in September to see what happens then.
Meanwhile, it's off to Corrie full time!
I am announcing that I am officially giving up on Eastenders. This sympathetic portrayal of Jane and Ian as the victims in all this is more than I can stomach.
I might be back when Max returns in September to see what happens then.
Meanwhile, it's off to Corrie full time!
What a shame! :(
Back when I felt the same about Dean's portrayal, I used to fast forward through all his scenes (since I always record the soaps and watch them later in the evening). Is that something you'd consider doing?
In any case, I hope you still read this thread and also post if you've got something to say - even if it's to tell me off for being sympathetic to Ian and Jane... http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm037blush.gif
did dean have his trial or has that been dropped he was pleading not guilty or did he change his plea
how jane especially is not questioned and arrested is a big fail by the writers
did dean have his trial or has that been dropped he was pleading not guilty or did he change his plea
how jane especially is not questioned and arrested is a big fail by the writers
did dean have his trial or has that been dropped he was pleading not guilty or did he change his plea
how jane especially is not questioned and arrested is a big fail by the writers
Last thing we were told was that Dean's trial is in June.
Letting Ian and Jane off the hook because Bobby said no one else was involved is indeed a big fail. The police would immediately have suspected them of helping him and would have questioned them extensively. I think the initial investigation found Lucy's body had been dumped after death (something easy to detect in a post mortem), so that little fact is now being conveniently ingnored... :wall:
DTC was obviously so desperate to tie the storyline up before he left that they decided to hammer a square peg into a round hole to make everything fit neatly and let Ian, Jane, Sharon and Phil off the hook (legally at least).
was bobby' s confession even investigated we never saw ian and jane questioned just taken as true even as it is true some more investigation was needed
parkerman
11-06-2016, 15:51
From next week's Radio Times: 'Speaking to RT, outgoing EastEnders boss Dominic Treadwell Collins promised that one of his final acts would be to end the Lucy Beale murder story once and for all, "Justice will finally be served," he said, referring to the one-child-crime-spree that is Bobby Beale. So all eyes will be on the court hearing that will determine Bobby's future."
But not referring to justice for Max in the form of prosecutions of Ian, Jane, Phil, Sharon and the rest then?
be great if bobby brought them all down with him, saying the knew and helped
be great if bobby brought them all down with him, saying the knew and helped
I wonder exactly what Bobby knows about the conspiracy and how many people were involved? He might only be aware that his family knew the truth.
I wonder exactly what Bobby knows about the conspiracy and how many people were involved? He might only be aware that his family knew the truth.
does denny know of phil and sharon cover up he could have told bobby of them knowing
I wonder exactly what Bobby knows about the conspiracy and how many people were involved? He might only be aware that his family knew the truth.
does denny know of phil and sharon cover up he could have told bobby of them knowing
I am announcing that I am officially giving up on Eastenders. This sympathetic portrayal of Jane and Ian as the victims in all this is more than I can stomach.
I might be back when Max returns in September to see what happens then.
Meanwhile, it's off to Corrie full time!
I emphasis with you, the Beales made lots of folks lives a misery covering up for their demon, to drag a dead body of a women onto open ground would take some vile distorted personality to do, no matter the twisted notion of good intent . and for Ian to disrespect Lucy by not giving her justice in death was beyond the pale.
Yet now we seem to being told to feel sorry for them. ignore the fact they sent a innocent fella to prison with no remorse and endangered others of being Bobbied
But then this eastenders. a soap not known for its logic or logical y developed story lines.
I was always quite proud in the past that big crimes at least always led to the culprit being found out and punished accordingly ...does not seem to happen now unless there is going to be a big dramatic development ...so far there don´t seem to be any signs for that though ...
parkerman
11-06-2016, 22:55
I was always quite proud in the past that big crimes at least always led to the culprit being found out and punished accordingly ...does not seem to happen now unless there is going to be a big dramatic development ...so far there don´t seem to be any signs for that though ...
I know it sounds a bit strange, but I can't help having the feeling that somehow DTC confuses the actors with the characters. He is very fond of Matt di Angelo, Adam Woodyat and Laurie Brett as people and actors and that's why he fannied around for so long before he had Dean arrested and why he's allowing Ian and Jane to get away with what they've done and why he has portrayed all three of them sympathetically.
I know it sounds a bit strange, but I can't help having the feeling that somehow DTC confuses the actors with the characters. He is very fond of Matt di Angelo, Adam Woodyat and Laurie Brett as people and actors and that's why he fannied around for so long before he had Dean arrested and why he's allowing Ian and Jane to get away with what they've done and why he has portrayed all three of them sympathetically.
I was definitely under that impression with Matt di Angelo. The Dean rape storyline was prolonged for what felt like forever at the time and it was obvious from the way the story was told that they changed their minds about the outcome at some point because (as we speculated at the time) they wanted to keep Matt around for longer. That certainly felt to me like what was happening. And Dean's ultra sympathetic portrayal thoroughly disgusted me! :angry:
The difference with the Bobby storyline is that, in my opinion, DTC and co almost certainly never had any intention of Ian, Jane, Sharon and Phil's reprehensible actions being discovered by the police, because no producer would want to lose four such important characters from the show at once. That's why I said a while back I couldn't see anyone but Jane (as the least iconic of the quartet) facing legal repercussions.
I don't feel as strongly as some of you about Ian and Jane purely because their motives in allowing Max to be imprisoned weren't malicious, and because Max conspired with Kat to do something similar to Alice to save Stacey so is getting a dose of karma. They're all as bad as each other in my opinion! :thumbsdow
Let's hope SOC makes an effort to change some of these iconic characters into likeable people we can root for again (though needless to say Phil's beyond saving).
tammyy2j
12-06-2016, 00:26
I am announcing that I am officially giving up on Eastenders. This sympathetic portrayal of Jane and Ian as the victims in all this is more than I can stomach.
I might be back when Max returns in September to see what happens then.
Meanwhile, it's off to Corrie full time!
I can understand this too as I am so mad with the writers for the aftermath of Bobby confessing :angry: does Lauren really think a letter can fix what she did to Max and why is Abi not more angry with her and has Dot made any comment to her or Ian about Max going to prison
No way can the police really think Bobby did it all alone, Keeble I thought was smart
Jane while paralysed now still should be in trouble with the law
Paul was good with Les but I don't like his little snide comments to Ben about Abi i.e. beard etc., as bad as she is lying to keep Ben, Paul went with him even when he was with her
I find Lauren and Stephen's relationship very forced
I was hoping Max would show up in the pub and let everyone know what he thought of them for letting him go down to save Bobby
I hope he gets revenge on them all
phil and jane deserve to go to prison i wouldn't mind ian getting community service but it is a complete farce ignoring the fact they knew and helped and are getting no punishment in legal terms, marsbar would want phil in prison get her back investigating
Yes, Marsden would definitely get in on the action and confront Phil.
As I don´t watch EE regularly I need to ask this ... is it definite that Ian and Jane´s conduct will not be investigated?
As I don´t watch EE regularly I need to ask this ... is it definite that Ian and Jane´s conduct will not be investigated?
No it isn't, but it seem likely because Bobby said he acted alone and the police have apparently accepted that without question (even though Lucy walking to the common after being hit on the head is a complete retcon).
Jane (and Ian) have had a dose of karma because Jane is severely injured, and I'd bet DTC thinks that's enough (he's misread the fans there). It's not likely any of them will see the inside of a prison because they're such big characters and I think community service would be laughable after what they've done.
Sharon and (especially) Phil are guilty too of course.
However...it is possible we've jumped the gun and there's another twist coming which will see those who colluded to cover up Bobby's crime punished by law. I hope that's the case.
Thank you Dazzle and I totally agree ... it would be absolutely wrong for all those that colluded in protecting Bobby get away with it ... Jane suffering the head injury is not enough Karma in my opinion ...
parkerman
12-06-2016, 16:11
Yes, it's true we don't know how this will eventually play out, especially when Max returns. There may be more to come. There is also the little matter of Phil bribing the foreman of the jury as well, which is definitely a custodial sentence crime.
But, as I said before, what really sticks in my craw at the moment is the portrayal of Jane and Ian as two people for whom we are supposed to feel sympathy.
will bobby be questioned on the stand in his case or is that not allowed for minors, if jane was able to attend i think she would slip up to save him
tammyy2j
14-06-2016, 14:13
No it isn't, but it seem likely because Bobby said he acted alone and the police have apparently accepted that without question (even though Lucy walking to the common after being hit on the head is a complete retcon).
Jane (and Ian) have had a dose of karma because Jane is severely injured, and I'd bet DTC thinks that's enough (he's misread the fans there). It's not likely any of them will see the inside of a prison because they're such big characters and I think community service would be laughable after what they've done.
Sharon and (especially) Phil are guilty too of course.
However...it is possible we've jumped the gun and there's another twist coming which will see those who colluded to cover up Bobby's crime punished by law. I hope that's the case.
I hope there is a twist with Bobby's case but I think it will be him getting off somehow :thumbsdow
where has phil gone, don't think grant would want him visiting
tammyy2j
15-06-2016, 10:47
Why is Lauren not even attempting to look for Max by calling Carol and Tanya or anyone else who may have seen him, she has a lot of making up to do and is more worried about Stephen, Ian and Beales :angry:
was it 3 or 4 years bobby got and another sympathy vote off keeble for ian
was it 3 or 4 years bobby got and another sympathy vote off keeble for ian
3 years
3 years
was it not 3 for lucy plus 1 for jane
3 years
was it not 3 for lucy plus 1 for jane
Rear window
16-06-2016, 20:20
it isnt up to her to feel sorry for him.
was it not 3 for lucy plus 1 for jane
It was, but the 1 year, was to run concurrently with the 3 years.
was it not 3 for lucy plus 1 for jane
It was, but the 1 year, was to run concurrently with the 3 years.
was it not 3 for lucy plus 1 for jane
Not according to Digital Spy : http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?135646-Bobby-Beale/page12
it isnt up to her to feel sorry for him.
i could understand the grey hair copper wanting to let it go as he didn't believe lauren but keeble is a shock
it isnt up to her to feel sorry for him.
no one feels sorry for max, all for bobby and beales only, really surprised keeble let it go, what shabby writing
Three years, for killing Lucy Beale and G.B.H.on his mother. Doubt he'll even serve 12 months . So D.I Samantha Keeble now acts for the C.P.S. combined with the role of Judge and jury. No consideration to the wrongful conviction of Max and all that involves. Absolute joke, and they're all wandering around as if Bobby's been sent down for20 years .:angry: Looks as though Jane will be running up and down the ward tomorrow night.
great post Glen
Keeble got it so wrong about it being Max shes just wanted it all to end as any digging would see her as the rubbish cop she is. H|er little speech about how the Beales have already suffered so much was complete tosh, all the Beales did was make others suffer for Bobbys actions with no remorse, just living in their bubble of they were trying to protect an innocent ikkle boy. shesh
£3500 per month a relative pays to be in a home and omg do those lovely people earn their money caring brilliantly for her. Mick and crew need to wise up now, Tina of course will demand she stays with Mick then b off and live somewhere else and never be of help, she did that with Stan remember, she rolled him in and said "deal with it " then moved in with Sonja.
Sonja and family and boyfriend... yikes so weak, s/l wise and acting.
great post Glen
Keeble got it so wrong about it being Max shes just wanted it all to end as any digging would see her as the rubbish cop she is. H|er little speech about how the Beales have already suffered so much was complete tosh, all the Beales did was make others suffer for Bobbys actions with no remorse, just living in their bubble of they were trying to protect an innocent ikkle boy. shesh
£3500 per month a relative pays to be in a home and omg do those lovely people earn their money caring brilliantly for her. Mick and crew need to wise up now, Tina of course will demand she stays with Mick then b off and live somewhere else and never be of help, she did that with Stan remember, she rolled him in and said "deal with it " then moved in with Sonja.
Sonja and family and boyfriend... yikes so weak, s/l wise and acting.
Yes that little speech by Keeble was out of character for her and a truly pathetic attempt by the DTC to let the Beales off the hook.
I can understand as Splashy says that Keeble wouldn't want the investigation into Max looked at more closely, but I don't believe for one second she wouldn't be furious at Bobby's parents for leading her and her colleagues up the garden path. The sympathy she showed was an outrageous attempt to whitewash Jane and Ian's part in covering for Bobby. And as others have pointed out, Max's wrongful conviction wasn't even mentioned! :wall:
I really feel like us viewers are being treated like fools - and this from a rare viewer who's had some sympathy for the Beales' dilemma even though I vehemently disagree with their actions. :angry:
I've always wondered what exactly is the point of concurrent sentences? :searchme:
http://www.ok.co.uk/tv/eastenders/558587/eastenders-viewers-confused-as-bobby-beale-given-sentence
im not only one confused
http://www.ok.co.uk/tv/eastenders/558587/eastenders-viewers-confused-as-bobby-beale-given-sentence
im not only one confused
Just had a quick look on the net for legal definition ,as follows, hope it helps.
concurrent sentence
n. when a criminal defendant is convicted of two or more crimes, a judge sentences him/her to a certain period of time for each crime. Then out of compassion, leniency, plea bargaining, or the fact that the several crimes are interrelated, the judge will rule that the sentences may all be served at the same time, with the longest period controlling.
parkerman
16-06-2016, 23:43
http://www.ok.co.uk/tv/eastenders/558587/eastenders-viewers-confused-as-bobby-beale-given-sentence
im not only one confused
Honestly, and I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but reading that link, there seem to be a lot of thick people about. Concurrently means at the same time. What's so hard to understand? Why are people confused? He got 3 years for murdering Lucy and 1 year for the assault on Jane to run CONCURRENTLY! That means at the same time, so a total of 3 years inside! Sheeeeesh!
i didn't hear the concurrently part on the show and how could the judge go even more leniently on bobby
Honestly, and I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but reading that link, there seem to be a lot of thick people about. Concurrently means at the same time. What's so hard to understand? Why are people confused? He got 3 years for murdering Lucy and 1 year for the assault on Jane to run CONCURRENTLY! That means at the same time, so a total of 3 years inside! Sheeeeesh!
I can understand viewers being confused but you'd think a journalist (and I use the term very loosely) would do some research before writing an article about it... :wall:
flappinfanny
17-06-2016, 00:30
Is it just me, or does Shakil or what ever he is called need a good kick up the **** and a good slap, he needs to open his mouth when he speaks. If that is the youth of today god help us all. I just have this urge to get a pair of scissors to his hair. God I hate this character.
Sad we may not see much more of Keeble now. :(
As for the Beales, they are completely ruined as a family unit. The best thing would be for them all to move out of Walford and have a fresh start somewhere else.
Bobbys got 4 years. :cheer:
Line of the night goes to Shirley to Babe "why don't you go and put a pie in the oven." :D
Rear window
17-06-2016, 11:40
I hated the bf with the parents stuff. And the not sending the lady back to the care home. Utterly silly.
next time we see bobby a different head likely
lauren chasing stephen and trying to make beales happy, max must be so proud of her such a caring person
im see kim's point so on her side
no interest in carter storyline, linda's bump getting more noticeable
next time we see bobby a different head likely
lauren chasing stephen and trying to make beales happy, max must be so proud of her such a caring person
im see kim's point so on her side
no interest in carter storyline, linda's bump getting more noticeable
At least Lauren expressed concern for Max (even if it was while consorting with his enemies), and we have some promise of payback to look forward to when he returns.
I wonder if we'll see the occasional visit to Bobby or if his existence will be virtually forgotten until he gets out?
tammyy2j
17-06-2016, 23:26
Was that note from Max or could it be Abi, Lauren or Stephen?
The only good part of the end of the Lucy's murder is Bobby Beale, that actor is amazing, I do feel sorry for Bobby but not his family, they made it worse by covering
I did think Jane was going to put it all right when Lauren visited so was going to tell the police the whole truth even though Max is released, admitting the truth is the way for her to start redemption but it might be too late to redeem them all even Lauren now too
Who besides Phil, Ben and Sharon know Phil bribed the jury foreman, does Jane and Lauren know?
I might be the only one because I really like this new Martin but I did like his dinner scene and also his hospital scene with Sonia
Why did Shirley not even offer to take Sylvie to the flat she shares with Buster, Shirley has no job and has a spare room with Dean in prison now and Tina back working in cafe, when did that happen, is she another sympathiser for Ian and his family
I was expecting Keeble who never showed much compassion to the Beales over Lucy to want them punished especially all who knew, I was hoping for an investigation, Bryant should tell Marsden get on her on the case, this storyline really is frustrating for viewers :wall:
Ruffed_lemur
18-06-2016, 15:35
i didn't hear the concurrently part on the show and how could the judge go even more leniently on bobby
He couldn't IMO. Wish he'd got much longer.
This thread as always has been a great read, cheered me up at this early hour.
Yeah Lauren still in bed with the Beales despite them orchestrating Max`s prison sentence, what a silly lady
Tina gets karma after insisting Stan stay with Mick and crew that time she thus gets lumbered with Mrs Stan after Linda puts her foot down. For once Babe is right, she cared for the lady for ages she knows shes impossible to deal with now and of course Mrs Stan is going to hate the care home shes in its part of her sad deterioration. But the dimbos didnt even go and see the old home they just demanded a new one and yes it does cost over 3 grand a month for private care and whos to say that the private care place isnt the one the council paid for in the first place, it all comes down to the sufferers fiscal assets as who pays.
This thread as always has been a great read, cheered me up at this early hour.
Yeah Lauren still in bed with the Beales despite them orchestrating Max`s prison sentence, what a silly lady
Tina gets karma after insisting Stan stay with Mick and crew that time she thus gets lumbered with Mrs Stan after Linda puts her foot down. For once Babe is right, she cared for the lady for ages she knows shes impossible to deal with now and of course Mrs Stan is going to hate the care home shes in its part of her sad deterioration. But the dimbos didnt even go and see the old home they just demanded a new one and yes it does cost over 3 grand a month for private care and whos to say that the private care place isnt the one the council paid for in the first place, it all comes down to the sufferers fiscal assets as who pays.
This thread as always has been a great read, cheered me up at this early hour.
I'm glad reading this thread cheered you up! :)
Soapboards has helped get me through some dark times. It's a wonderful little community. :bow:
hope max revenge isn't just against ian, there is also jane, phil, sharon, lauren and liam and talking of liam will he and cindy now return the truth is out
hope max revenge isn't just against ian, there is also jane, phil, sharon, lauren and liam and talking of liam will he and cindy now return the truth is out
I'm sure Max will include everyone he knows kept the secret. Ian's likely to be his main focus I guess, especially since I expect Jane will be still recovering from the spinal trauma when he returns. His revenge might even start before he returns to live in the square.
Max...its so complicated thou.. Max did destroy his CCTV tapes and indeed system to remove proof Lucy hit her head in the car lot even Abi was involved in removing the blood etc etc and if Michael French had remained on cast he would of been part of that plot. But yes Max didnt do it no matter how guilty he acted right down to dating a police officer on the case... who then happens to be no more.
Go after Carol first Max..........
Max...its so complicated thou.. Max did destroy his CCTV tapes and indeed system to remove proof Lucy hit her head in the car lot even Abi was involved in removing the blood etc etc and if Michael French had remained on cast he would of been part of that plot. But yes Max didnt do it no matter how guilty he acted right down to dating a police officer on the case... who then happens to be no more.
Go after Carol first Max..........
tammyy2j
19-06-2016, 23:17
I wonder is Max working alone or with someone like Stephen, I just do not buy Stephen being all ok with Bobby killing Lucy and the big cover up
Carol did think Max was guilty in the end and Abi thought he was too, both of them should be very angry at all who knew the truth about Bobby e.g. especially Lauren and Liam :angry:
Shirley another feeling sorry for Bobby and the Beales, hello Ben killed your best mate Heather just like Keeble this seemed so out of character
I hope Jane is not given a fast speedy recovery and is Christian and her mother gone again?
Max...its so complicated thou.. Max did destroy his CCTV tapes and indeed system to remove proof Lucy hit her head in the car lot even Abi was involved in removing the blood etc etc and if Michael French had remained on cast he would of been part of that plot. But yes Max didnt do it no matter how guilty he acted right down to dating a police officer on the case... who then happens to be no more.
Go after Carol first Max..........
why carol?
if michael french had stayed would david have been a suspect
Max...its so complicated thou.. Max did destroy his CCTV tapes and indeed system to remove proof Lucy hit her head in the car lot even Abi was involved in removing the blood etc etc and if Michael French had remained on cast he would of been part of that plot. But yes Max didnt do it no matter how guilty he acted right down to dating a police officer on the case... who then happens to be no more.
Go after Carol first Max..........
why carol?
if michael french had stayed would david have been a suspect
tammyy2j
21-06-2016, 21:28
Ian and Sharon could show some guilt and remorse towards Max
I hope his revenge is really good and against them all
Ian and Sharon could show some guilt and remorse towards Max
It's very bad writing because Ian and Jane were remorseful before Max was convicted (Jane even perjured herself in court trying to save him) but they haven't shown an ounce of guilt since. It wouldn't just disappear like that. Plus, while Ian has never been the most moral person, Jane definitely has a conscience so in reality would have really struggled with Max's sentence. Their change of heart doesn't make any sense like the rest of this storyline. :wall:
all i can say i remember is andy wet towel
why carol?
ct
Shes just annoying and Im petty like that :moonie:
Sonja wimped out on telling Tina shes dumped :D Now she gets to be an unpaid carer of a unwell person who even trained carers in a home couldnt deal with..fun fun fun
Who could of seen Sonja trying to snog Martin coming, oh wait we all did :cartman: :rotfl:
Oh goody a new beauty parlour is going to happen,its like weve done this story line before but we really didnt enjoy it.
tammyy2j
22-06-2016, 14:38
Carol would return knowing Max is released if she does and the big cover up to keep him in prison, I would love to see her confront them all even just for one episode it would be great to have Lindsey back
No one has confronted any of the Beales or Mitchells, if it were my father, I would be screaming at them constantly but not Abi and Lauren and where is Stacey and the kids gone now?
no one will confront any of them as all square and beyond is team beale, protecting bobby
flappinfanny
23-06-2016, 00:01
I do feel sorry for Kim, I can see where she is coming from and it comes to something when the only person talking any sense is Kim.
Why did Sharon try and stop Ian moving to Birmingham? Birmingham is a great city and doesn't deserve to be lumbered with the Beales, however it would mean we wouldn't be stuck with them.
Shirey made me laugh when she said to Sylvie "if it was up to me you could go out there and play with the traffic." Linda Marlowe is brilliant as Sylvie.
yes denise and kush will happen he may not knock her up as phil could have already :p
mick angry at jay but not ian and bobby
yes denise and kush will happen he may not knock her up as phil could have already :p
mick angry at jay but not ian and bobby
I enjoyed the girls having a laugh and mimicking Peggy whilst arranging her funeral (even though Les appeared to disapprove of them having a bit of fun).
I wonder how Andy will explain the article about Danielle? I'm not sure why Dot reacted like she'd found a gun or something and felt she had to phone Ronnie immediately. If I was her I'd have no doubt thought it a bit odd and probably mentioned it next time I saw Ronnie.
As always the visuals are lost on us blindies :crying: :nono:
As always the visuals are lost on us blindies :crying: :nono:
:(
Dot found an old newspaper article about Danielle's death amongst Andy's washing.
:(
dot found an old newspaper article about danielle's death amongst andy's washing.
ty d
did the rabbit take the cocaine
why didn't andy use house phone instead of ronnie's mobile
mick deserves a slap, jay should have dropped him
did the rabbit take the cocaine
why didn't andy use house phone instead of ronnie's mobile
mick deserves a slap, jay should have dropped him
flappinfanny
26-06-2016, 01:44
I am beginning to really dislike Mick. Poor Jay. Loved drunk Carmel, I never thought I would say this but Bonnie Langford is very good indeed and has really fitted into the square well. I like her friendship with Denise. All things considered a much better episode to end the week. It will be interesting to see where the Andy and Ronnie storyline goes to.
did the rabbit take the cocaine
That's what was implied but I hope not. :(
I am beginning to really dislike Mick. Poor Jay. Loved drunk Carmel, I never thought I would say this but Bonnie Langford is very good indeed and has really fitted into the square well. I like her friendship with Denise. All things considered a much better episode to end the week. It will be interesting to see where the Andy and Ronnie storyline goes to.
Me too! Mick was a breath of fresh air when he first came to the square because he was such a nice guy. Linda was the judgemental one of the family. They appear to have swapped places. :wall:
tammyy2j
27-06-2016, 22:54
That's what was implied but I hope not. :(
Me too! Mick was a breath of fresh air when he first came to the square because he was such a nice guy. Linda was the judgemental one of the family. They appear to have swapped places. :wall:
Mick is not judging Ian or his family actually no one is or even talking about young Bobby Beale the killer or innocent framed Max :angry:
I'm liking Kush and Denise's chemistry. :love:
Apart from that pair being flirtatious, we had Babe being malicious, Les and Pam being desperate, Roxy being irresponsible, Jack being angry, Andy being threatening, Buster being unfaithful, Carmel being lonely, Jay being foolish...and Hercules being lifeless. :crying:
I think I'm going to stick my head in the oven...although since it's electric I guess the worst I'll get is a burnt ear. :ninja:
storyseeker1
28-06-2016, 00:14
Well, I had a feeling that Andy would come up with an excuse to give to Ronnie as to why he had the article about Danielle, as EE never has a storyline concluded so soon, but that has got to be thee worst excuse I've ever heard! So cliche and corny, about how he lost his own mom/sister, and when he found out Ronnie had lost her daughter then he felt it all made sense that he and she had been through the same things. Who the hell looks up article about people they're just moving in with, and print them off?
All it took was him helping out with the search for Amy, and suddenly everything's forgotten! You know, I'm starting to see more of the resemblance between Ronnie and Roxy. They're both gullible and quick to forget.
Yeah, the whole Andy storyline is stupid. Ronnie's behaved out of character around him from the off, being warm and welcoming and getting him to babysit since the day she met him. Then asking him to stay on in the house after he'd been behaving so threateningly was bizarre. :wall:
It's a pity because the actor plays such an enigmatic and potentially very dark character convincingly but the writing is really letting him down.
why didn't the nurse inform social care services of amy's potentially taking cocaine (mammy's serbet which killed her rabbit)
why didn't the nurse inform social care services of amy's potentially taking cocaine (mammy's serbet which killed her rabbit)
I'm sure she told Jack to expect a visit from social services.
I'm sure she told Jack to expect a visit from social services.
did she i was expecting them and the police at the hospital and at roxy's flat
I'm sure she told Jack to expect a visit from social services.
did she i was expecting them and the police at the hospital and at roxy's flat
tammyy2j
28-06-2016, 14:08
Yeah, the whole Andy storyline is stupid. Ronnie's behaved out of character around him from the off, being warm and welcoming and getting him to babysit since the day she met him. Then asking him to stay on in the house after he'd been behaving so threateningly was bizarre
:wall:
It's a pity because the actor plays such an enigmatic and potentially very dark character convincingly but the writing is really letting him down.
I think Ronnie is attracted to Andy and who can blame her :p
I'd just decided I couldn't watch any more of the Babe blackmailing Pam and Les storyline when he started clutching his chest. It looks like something will change now - though I hope it's not that Les will die. :(
I can't stand to watch any more of Babe's cruelty or Pam's completely out of character small-mindedness. Her calling Les perverted was the last straw for me. I could understand her initial shock and that it might take a long time to come to terms with it, but after all this time for such an otherwise nice character to be so vindictive is beyond my understanding. Yes, there are plenty of narrow-minded people in real life, but Pam is just not that type of person.
I hope she calls an ambulance immediately and doesn't waste time trying to remove all traces of Christine from Les. :angry:
flappinfanny
29-06-2016, 00:43
Babe has got to get kicked out on her ear eventually surely, her cooking can't be that good. She is such an evil cow in a pantomime sort of way. She even has a cackle.
would saint mickolas kick out auntie babe
The very fact Roxy would risk Amys life not taking her to the hospital "oh she seems alright" made me want Jack not to fall for her pathetic ramblings of how sorry she was ... but its ok, she has no money and no one to visit but shes going away to sort herself!!!! HOW??????
Really dont get and dont care about the Ronnie and Andy stuff.
Buster, all those ladies wanting a peice taste of his cod... poor chump theres not one Id not swim the channel to get away from :moonie:
Denise and Kush ... well she did bed Flatboy.
The very fact Roxy would risk Amys life not taking her to the hospital "oh she seems alright" made me want Jack not to fall for her pathetic ramblings of how sorry she was ... but its ok, she has no money and no one to visit but shes going away to sort herself!!!! HOW??????
They've somehow forgotten that she's only just back after months away which ended with her return as a drug smuggler! I'm not seeing the logic in this decision at all... :wall:
Buster, all those ladies wanting a peice taste of his cod... poor chump theres not one Id not swim the channel to get away from :moonie:
Very puzzling, especially given the fact he must perpetually stink of cod... :D
tammyy2j
30-06-2016, 13:26
I think Buster and Carmel could work as a couple
How come Shirley isn't asking Babe any questions about Pam's comment and now especially since breaking the Gypsy picture which is unlike Pam
enough sharon peggy mitchell and already sick of sam
tammyy2j
30-06-2016, 23:11
Billy should remember how good Pam and Les has been to him and his family and support them
How could Linda believe Babe that Les fancies her
I liked hearing Sharon talk about Phil and Eric
I haven't seen Thursday's episode yet and don't think I'll bother. As I said in my last rant, I hate the blackmail storyline, and I've now heard Billy called Les perverted. I've had enough of people acting like harmless Les is a child molester or something! It's just not entertaining to watch. :angry:
I've no interest in watching Daniella Westbrook either since her "acting" goes through me like nails down a blackboard... :wall:
Rear window
04-07-2016, 15:11
Roxy buggering off - stupid. Just put Thursday on iplayer. Was out catching bees all evening so missed it!
I thought Peggy was a bit wooden this epp
grant return same as wicksy return for funeral
what did sal say, that peggy grassed up eric, is eric alive
grant return same as wicksy return for funeral
what did sal say, that peggy grassed up eric, is eric alive
I thought Peggy was a bit wooden this epp
I thought it was Barbara Windsor's best work. :p
flappinfanny
05-07-2016, 01:23
I wasn't keen on the montage at the start, it works well on Hollyoaks but not on EastEnders. The horses pulling the glass coffin always gives me the creeps, it reminds me of Dracula, I don't like it at all.
I liked the ending with Phil at the grave side and using Peggy's theme was very effective, very EastEnders. The Mitchells were not a particularly nice family lets face it and it was rather appropriate that none of Peggy's Children were there when she was buried. Stand out performances, Anna Karen, Letitia Dean and of course Steve Mcfadden. If I am being over critical it probably could have been better in places, it seemed a little disjointed. Line of the night goes to Aunt Sal when she said to Ben "you can always tell a pansy by his manners."
I wasn't keen on the montage at the start, it works well on Hollyoaks but not on EastEnders. The horses pulling the glass coffin always gives me the creeps, it reminds me of Dracula, I don't like it at all.
I liked the ending with Phil at the grave side and using Peggy's theme was very effective, very EastEnders. The Mitchells were not a particularly nice family lets face it and it was rather appropriate that none of Peggy's Children were there when she was buried. Stand out performances, Anna Karen, Letitia Dean and of course Steve Mcfadden. If I am being over critical it probably could have been better in places, it seemed a little disjointed. Line of the night goes to Aunt Sal when she said to Ben "you can always tell a pansy by his manners."
I felt Sam was showing too much cleavage for attending a funeral. Why did Grant not attend the funeral but watched from afar?
I normally get quite emotional even at fictional funerals but this one did not stir any emotions ..
tammyy2j
05-07-2016, 14:49
I felt Sam was showing too much cleavage for attending a funeral. Why did Grant not attend the funeral but watched from afar?
I normally get quite emotional even at fictional funerals but this one did not stir any emotions ..
Me either
I found Pat's demise way more emotional
Line of the night for me goes to Kim , during the hymn " Abide with me" she asks Denise, isn't this sung at the F.A. cup final.:)
did gavin just kill his sister
did gavin just kill his sister
I can´t see them bring back Kathy from the dead only to kill her "again" shortly afterwards .. but then again ...:p
parkerman
06-07-2016, 08:37
I can´t see them bring back Kathy from the dead only to kill her "again" shortly afterwards .. but then again ...:p
Kathy's not his sister....
I know but there was online discussion on whether he killed Kathy or his sister and I think it was his sister rather than Kathy
tammyy2j
06-07-2016, 14:34
I did jump at the body dropping on the car which does look like Margaret despite her and Kathy both wearing black
I do see some some bits of Peggy in Sam
Gavin is not a believable villain, he is not even panto good :p
Shirley after Phil again :thumbsdow
Ian giving Jay advice was good to see, part of the redemption of Ian but it will take a whole lot
parkerman
06-07-2016, 15:58
I did jump at the body dropping on the car which does look like Margaret despite her and Kathy both wearing black
I do see some some bits of Peggy in Sam
Gavin is not a believable villain, he is not even panto good :p
Shirley after Phil again :thumbsdow
Ian giving Jay advice was good to see, part of the redemption of Ian but it will take a whole lot
Nothing can redeem Ian! 😡
I haven't watched for a few episodes now, and comments such as I just read elsewhere about what an embarrassment last night's episode was don't do anything to help tempt me back.
It looks like I'll be taking an extended break like parkerman's doing.
I have only been able to see the odd episodes since the Lucy murder which was by choice... not regretted it one minute as I do not miss it after watching religiously for many years ...:ninja:
parkerman
06-07-2016, 19:16
I agree with both of you about Eastenders. It hasn't been good for some time, but DTC really finished it off!
He had this great idea about Bobby being Lucy's murderer - no-one would guess that; what a shocker; lots of awards - but never really thought it through about what it would mean for the other characters and it just grew more and more ridiculous as he apparently couldn't see any way out of the situation he'd created without losing lots of his star actors. The final straw for me was the police saying they wouldn't follow up Ian and Jane being responsible for sending an innocent man to jail because "they'd suffered enough already." Absolute total rowlocks!!!
flappinfanny
07-07-2016, 00:21
I can´t see them bring back Kathy from the dead only to kill her "again" shortly afterwards .. but then again ...:p
if only, that would be highly amusing. :D
flappinfanny
07-07-2016, 00:25
That was an awful episode, from start to finish. Full marks to all concerned for keeping a straight face.
I cant shake the theme from Howards Way.
Jan Howard, all filmed down here and in my local pub when I lived in Burseldon.
So how did Vince I mean thingy is affording this huge house?
tammyy2j
07-07-2016, 11:33
I agree with both of you about Eastenders. It hasn't been good for some time, but DTC really finished it off!
He had this great idea about Bobby being Lucy's murderer - no-one would guess that; what a shocker; lots of awards - but never really thought it through about what it would mean for the other characters and it just grew more and more ridiculous as he apparently couldn't see any way out of the situation he'd created without losing lots of his star actors. The final straw for me was the police saying they wouldn't follow up Ian and Jane being responsible for sending an innocent man to jail because "they'd suffered enough already." Absolute total rowlocks!!!
The final reveal has been a disaster, a complete fail
Rear window
07-07-2016, 19:25
I cant shake the theme from Howards Way.
Jan Howard, all filmed down here and in my local pub when I lived in Burseldon.
So how did Vince I mean thingy is affording this huge house?
its not his...
he's a villain you know.
its not his...
he's a villain you know.
gavin bought it with money sharon gave him from selling albert to vincent
it was a really nice house reminded me of a country manor hotel
its not his...
he's a villain you know.
gavin bought it with money sharon gave him from selling albert to vincent
it was a really nice house reminded me of a country manor hotel
Rear window
07-07-2016, 21:12
gavin bought it with money sharon gave him from selling albert to vincent
it was a really nice house reminded me of a country manor hotel
Wasn't that only a few hundred thousand?
I have studied the property market enough to know that was gazillions not just a few quid house.
Gavin is a super-villain though to be able to throw her so far from the house...
Sharon gave Gavin £150,000 if I remember correctly, so definitely not enough for a manor house. Perhaps he's rented it for a short time or borrowed it from a criminal contact?
i vaguely remember gavin saying to his sister he got it with money from sharon, it did look a costly state home maybe borrowed to impress kathy
flappinfanny
08-07-2016, 00:18
I haven't watched for a few episodes now, and comments such as I just read elsewhere about what an embarrassment last night's episode was don't do anything to help tempt me back.
It looks like I'll be taking an extended break like parkerman's doing.
I won't be far behind you and I am a staunch supporter of the show, well I was.
I won't be far behind you and I am a staunch supporter of the show, well I was.
We're dropping like flies! :eek:
I've been reading all about the cartoonish and cringeworthy chase through the house. It sounds so bad that I feel like I'm missing out on something... :ninja: :p
Rear window
08-07-2016, 09:22
Cartoonish is right.
Bodies flying through the air...
I am just hoping someone rings 999.
Cartoonish is right.
Bodies flying through the air...
I am just hoping someone rings 999.
See, you're making me crave watching the episode so I can see for myself just how bad it is. I'm going to try and resist the lure though... :p
Rear window
08-07-2016, 11:28
See, you're making me crave watching the episode so I can see for myself just how bad it is. I'm going to try and resist the lure though... :p
Watch it with a bingo card
"For goodness sake Cathy, don't go with him"
"For goodness sake Cathy ring 999 you're being kidnapped"
"For goodness sake Cathy, don't go in to the house with him"
"For goodness sake Cathy throw a chair through the window"
Did hell freeze over? Did Phil say that Paul is family? Ben bonding with Pam was really sweet too. Today's episode was great. I have to say of the three soaps, these days EastEnders come out on top. Great storytelling all around.
Did hell freeze over? Did Phil say that Paul is family? Ben bonding with Pam was really sweet too. Today's episode was great. I have to say of the three soaps, these days EastEnders come out on top. Great storytelling all around.
are yous serious mate
is margatet dead or alive and is that it from gavin
Did hell freeze over? Did Phil say that Paul is family? Ben bonding with Pam was really sweet too. Today's episode was great. I have to say of the three soaps, these days EastEnders come out on top. Great storytelling all around.
are yous serious mate
is margatet dead or alive and is that it from gavin
are yous serious mate
is margatet dead or alive and is that it from gavin
Yes, I'm serious. Corrie is on the boring side lately (only exception being the tilly storyline). I don't care about any of Emmerdale's lame storylines. At least EastEnders was fun to watch tonight.
are yous serious mate
is margatet dead or alive and is that it from gavin
Yes, I'm serious. Corrie is on the boring side lately (only exception being the tilly storyline). I don't care about any of Emmerdale's lame storylines. At least EastEnders was fun to watch tonight.
flappinfanny
08-07-2016, 23:55
It's So long, farewell Auf Wiedersehen, goodnight to Mr Treadwell Collins. :clap:
It's So long, farewell Auf Wiedersehen, goodnight to Mr Treadwell Collins. :clap:
Except for the occasional episode or two (such as Peggy's death), I think DTC left EE - mentally at least - after live week. Maybe he was burned out, maybe he just lost interest or perhaps all the acclaim went to his head, but it seems to me he stopped putting in 100% after that.
What was the point in risking bringing Kathy back when little effort went into giving her a credible backstory or making the man who persuaded her to abandon her sons a three-dimensional villain? It could have been compelling viewing but has just turned into a laughing stock! The most unforgivable part of this mess for me was the absence of an electrifying showdown (or any showdown!) between Kathy and Ian. Their first meeting was a complete damp squib! I kept expecting him to confront her but he never did.
And after all that, Kathy's barely done anything of note since she returned. :wall:
The less said about the end of the Lucy storyline the better... :thumbsdow
RIP Jan Howard from Howards way, I loved that show, a mate of mine won the boat Tom Howard was supposed to of made at his boat yard in the show, at the Southampton Boat show.
Anywho back on topic.. wow did they make the most of the huge house they had rented for the day for those scenes Was anyone else cheering on Vince sorry I mean whats his face to do in Kathy as well, maybe she could of fallen on Sharon :cartman:
Poor Westbrook, her last scenes for me denoted how desperate she is to come back long term, they did give her the leaving in the taxi bit but no Julias theme which would of amused me if they had.
Fishy Fred really has very poor chpice in women and now Philth knows. his jig is up. watch out Shirley dosent Bobbit you son :rotfl:
parkerman
09-07-2016, 10:49
As you know, I've given up on EE after the dreadful denouement of the Lucy/Bobby story.
However, I see Gavin is mentioned a few times here. So has he turned out to be the most villainous soap villain of all time as promised? He 'd have to go it some to beat Ian and Jane in my book!
DTC made a major mistake over-hyping Gavin by saying he'd make Archie look like a care bear. He was never going to live up to that! Maybe that's why his end was so feeble - they'd given up trying to make him a force to be reckoned with and decided to play to Paul Nicholas' comedy strengths? It certainly sounds laughable! :D
flappinfanny
09-07-2016, 17:06
As you know, I've given up on EE after the dreadful denouement of the Lucy/Bobby story.
However, I see Gavin is mentioned a few times here. So has he turned out to be the most villainous soap villain of all time as promised? He 'd have to go it some to beat Ian and Jane in my book!
Will you ever be tempted back ?
parkerman
09-07-2016, 20:36
Will you ever be tempted back ?
Only if Max wreaks his revenge and goes into the Beale household swinging an axe and the police decide not to press charges as "he's been through a lot."
Only if Max wreaks his revenge and goes into the Beale household swinging an axe and the police decide not to press charges as "he's been through a lot."
I am sure you will find out on here first if that is to happen :D
parkerman
09-07-2016, 21:04
I am sure you will find out on here first if that is to happen :D
I rely on you to be the first to let me know, Perdy. :thumbsup:
I rely on you to be the first to let me know, Perdy. :thumbsup:
Please don´t ..I can´t guarantee to be the first to give you the joyous news but I trust plenty of others on this site to post something as soon as they can ... :)
I rely on you to be the first to let me know, Perdy. :thumbsup:
Please don´t ..I can´t guarantee to be the first to give you the joyous news but I trust plenty of others on this site to post something as soon as they can ... :)
tammyy2j
10-07-2016, 00:11
Pam should listen to her own words when dealing with Les "love is love" no matter to who
oh billy what a bigotry tool, can't work or be around les the pervert
linda getting a bell for the pub for peggy so caring
tammyy2j
12-07-2016, 13:43
oh billy what a bigotry tool, can't work or be around les the pervert
Billy stole mail and had photos of Lucy, no more follow up ever about those :searchme:
I think Billy is wrong to call Les a pervert and quit his job :angry: the Cokers have been very good to Billy and his family
flappinfanny
12-07-2016, 19:13
Well there was a lot of twaddle in the episode. Billy you are a spineless wonder. I hope he remains on the dole for the rest of his naturals.
Best part of the the episode for me was Les and Pam.
I thought Sharon knew about Michelle's secret? and how did Peggy find out?
Well there was a lot of twaddle in the episode. Billy you are a spineless wonder. I hope he remains on the dole for the rest of his naturals.
Best part of the the episode for me was Les and Pam.
I thought Sharon knew about Michelle's secret? and how did Peggy find out?
Missed the episode, what is the secret?
Well there was a lot of twaddle in the episode. Billy you are a spineless wonder. I hope he remains on the dole for the rest of his naturals.
Best part of the the episode for me was Les and Pam.
I thought Sharon knew about Michelle's secret? and how did Peggy find out?
yes i thought sharon knew too that michelle had a son whose father is grant
did michelle tell peggy?
that was a makeover, really?
Rice Christie
13-07-2016, 18:40
How has Shirley lasted 10 years? :0 I hope the new producer kills her off.
flappinfanny
15-07-2016, 00:08
The only bit that amused me was the Shirley and Denise scenes and Shirl's Pepsi t shirt. It reminded me of the days with Hev. I also thought it was mildly amusing with Lee going to pee in the wardrobe.
tammyy2j
15-07-2016, 23:01
Paul with Ben tattooed on his finger with no wallet and Ben's phone likely he dies just when Ben finally happy
I was hoping Whitney wasn't pregnant
I think Abi and Lee could be an interesting funny odd couple
Jack and Honey getting very close
flappinfanny
15-07-2016, 23:29
It seems odd not having Danny Dyer around the bar in the Vic, not that I am complaining. :)
I did smile at Jack and Richard tonight, they were funny and Scott Maslen has a real rapour with the little actor.
tammyy2j
15-07-2016, 23:33
It seems odd not having Danny Dyer around the bar in the Vic, not that I am complaining. :)
I did smile at Jack and Richard tonight, they were funny and Scott Maslen has a real rapour with the little actor.
Yes Jack and Richard have a good rapport
flappinfanny
16-07-2016, 12:11
It looks as though Jay has lost his way which isn't surprising, I wonder where his story will end up? I think you are right re Ben and Paul and the tattoos. It will break Pam and Les heart.
called it being paul i think everyone guessed it was paul dead not ben
was it a fight maybe a homophobic attack and where is ben
couldnt care less about preggers whitney and her mate annoying lauren
called it being paul i think everyone guessed it was paul dead not ben
was it a fight maybe a homophobic attack and where is ben
couldnt care less about preggers whitney and her mate annoying lauren
flappinfanny
18-07-2016, 23:51
I think it is effective having the incident happen off screen, it will be interesting to see how the story unfolds. I hope we don't get spoilers for upcoming episodes.
I thought there was a better balance tonight of light and heavier scenes. Really liking Belinda. Gillian Taylforth was awful tonight, simply awful and Johnny would never have said those things to Lee about "happy pills" bad writing again letting EastEnders down
storyseeker1
19-07-2016, 02:29
So sad. I pity his poor mom. She only just got the courage to go and see him, and now he's dead. I dread to think how Pam and Les are gonna react.
even without any id on him was it right the doctor to say "ben" was dead to phil and ian without fully confirming victim's identity, police could fingerprint
flappinfanny
19-07-2016, 11:27
There are some lovely little bits of humour coming through in EastEnders right now. Denise and Belinda were funny in the minutemart.
Ruffed_lemur
19-07-2016, 16:58
even without any id on him was it right the doctor to say "ben" was dead to phil and ian without fully confirming victim's identity, police could fingerprint
Thanks! Thought I was the only 1 thinking this. It seemed an awful way of going on!
phil and ian should sue the hospital
tammyy2j
20-07-2016, 13:23
Poor Pam and Les, my heart was breaking for them, some great acting
Did Ben and Stephen ever interact, I don't think I even remember them speaking but now Stephen is in the thick of it worrying for Ben :searchme:
flappinfanny
20-07-2016, 23:49
Poor Pam and Les, my heart was breaking for them, some great acting
Did Ben and Stephen ever interact, I don't think I even remember them speaking but now Stephen is in the thick of it worrying for Ben :searchme:
I know what you mean. My heart almost broke for Les and Pam. When Les poured that cup of tea down the sink, that was me gone. It was almost too painful to bare and it's not even real for goodness sake.
EastEnders was on form on Tuesday, without a shadow of a doubt. It did what is does best and probably better than any other soap. The episode wasn't perfect, the Whitney/Lee storyline was a distraction along with the carters that we could have done without, but that aside EastEnders deserves a 9/10. Will they keep this standard up? ..... of course they won't, we will be back to sloppy seconds very soon.
tammyy2j
21-07-2016, 22:23
Outstanding work by the actress who plays Pam, nice scene with her and Belinda
It looks like Paul's death is being used to bring Johnny and Ben together which I don't like, Ben can confide in Jay
Was that the first time we have seen Abi and Ben in the same scene since he dumped and stripped her in the pub and was she worried for him in the cafe, showing she still cared, Paul did seem to like to mock her when with Ben
Was Buster calling Kathy for a booty call while she was caring for her beaten son :angry:
Will Pam or Les now tell Paul's mother?
flappinfanny
22-07-2016, 00:13
I thought Belinda was rather good with Pam tonight and the scenes with Jay and Ben were very good.
is ben ashamed to say it was a homophobic attack over phil or guilt of gabbing back at attackers as paul dead?
is ben ashamed to say it was a homophobic attack over phil or guilt of gabbing back at attackers as paul dead?
Think more about trying to conceal his guilt. Still wonder if there's more to be revealed about the attack.
Outstanding work by the actress who plays Pam, nice scene with her and Belinda
It looks like Paul's death is being used to bring Johnny and Ben together which I don't like, Ben can confide in Jay
Was that the first time we have seen Abi and Ben in the same scene since he dumped and stripped her in the pub and was she worried for him in the cafe, showing she still cared, Paul did seem to like to mock her when with Ben
Was Buster calling Kathy for a booty call while she was caring for her beaten son :angry:
Will Pam or Les now tell Paul's mother?
Your phrasing there so reminded me of 60s batman series, followed by the swirling bat logo..
anywho... I bet none of us are surprised they binned off the actor playing Paul, he obviously didnt tickle the right members of the production crew lets say and made an easy corpse for a story line.
Some real improvements of acting thou with Ben and Pam.. made it a very believable and somber event. But why on earth would Abi care? But then Im a man and never have understood the fairer sex.
flappinfanny
23-07-2016, 00:17
What the eck does it have to do with Lauren? after all the stunts she has pulled, she needs to shut her trap! Sanctimonious.
The Carters are grating on me a bit, can Mick go on Holiday again and take Linda with him along with Whitless and Lee.
The scenes with Donna and Kim were very good and the scenes with Les and Pam were excellent. Roger Sloman has really improved.
The duff duff was very underwhelming.
"Sanctimonious"
wow I love that word.
The buffoons on Big Brother can only use expletives to describe a situation yet there are so many great words in our language they could use.
New Johnny is getting on my flabby front members...iys clear the S/L is heading for him and Ben to hook up but I have a major "who cares" issue going on in my noggin.
"Sanctimonious"
wow I love that word.
The buffoons on Big Brother can only use expletives to describe a situation yet there are so many great words in our language they could use.
New Johnny is getting on my flabby front members...its clear the S/L is heading for him and Ben to hook up but I have a major "who cares" issue going on in my noggin.
What the eck does it have to do with Lauren? after all the stunts she has pulled, she needs to shut her trap! Sanctimonious.
The Carters are grating on me a bit, can Mick go on Holiday again and take Linda with him along with Whitless and Lee.
The scenes with Donna and Kim were very good and the scenes with Les and Pam were excellent. Roger Sloman has really improved.
The duff duff was very underwhelming.
:clap::cheer:
"Sanctimonious"
wow I love that word.
The buffoons on Big Brother can only use expletives to describe a situation yet there are so many great words in our language they could use.
New Johnny is getting on my flabby front members...iys clear the S/L is heading for him and Ben to hook up but I have a major "who cares" issue going on in my noggin.
I'm not impressed at all with nu Johnny's acting. He is emotionless and his lines often fall flat. This is nothing against the actor btw, Ted Reilly seems sweet. I just don't like his acting, that's all.
johnny and mick were kicking jay out of the pub recently and johnny wants his help now with ben
im liking lee the dope but honest, loved his reaction to donna because i was thinking the same :p dopey minds thinking alike
johnny and mick were kicking jay out of the pub recently and johnny wants his help now with ben
im liking lee the dope but honest, loved his reaction to donna because i was thinking the same :p dopey minds thinking alike
Has Billy got hist job back with Les and Pam? Sorry, not watching EE as much as I used to
Has Billy got hist job back with Les and Pam? Sorry, not watching EE as much as I used to
he offered his help with other funerals while they are dealing with paul's death and funeral and les took him up on the offer
not a fan of johnny and ben
Has Billy got hist job back with Les and Pam? Sorry, not watching EE as much as I used to
he offered his help with other funerals while they are dealing with paul's death and funeral and les took him up on the offer
not a fan of johnny and ben
he offered his help with other funerals while they are dealing with paul's death and funeral and les took him up on the offer
not a fan of johnny and ben
I expect he will stay there then afterwards too .. hope so, anyway
flappinfanny
26-07-2016, 01:05
Really liking Belinda, What did she say about Tracey, She could transform her from a crow to a swan. :D
The scenes with Johnny and Ben were good, although I still think Harry Reid could tone it down a little. The Carters didn't seem so annoying tonight, which is a bonus.
I'm not impressed at all with nu Johnny's acting. He is emotionless and his lines often fall flat. This is nothing against the actor btw, Ted Reilly seems sweet. I just don't like his acting, that's all.
Wonder if Ted Reilly had or has some form of hearing impairment, this can cause speech to be a little monotone and quieter than normal. Could of course just be how he is being directed to play Johnny, or how the part is written.
Killed off the wrong one, Paul and Johnny would have been a good pairing. Ben's character too predictable.
tammyy2j
26-07-2016, 15:41
I feel some what sorry for Lee, he is being told what to told by everyone
shirley helping ben who she supposedly hates to get in phil's bed again
flappinfanny
27-07-2016, 23:09
I think Harry Reid could tone it down a notch, he has improved, but he is still a little ott. I thought Johnny was better and I thought Roger Sloman was excellent. I do feel for Lee. I am not sure where the Jay storyline is going to end up, but it is going to be interesting to watch. Had to smile at Richard with Jack.
fathers and sons the theme tonight
I think Harry Reid could tone it down a notch, he has improved, but he is still a little ott. I thought Johnny was better and I thought Roger Sloman was excellent. I do feel for Lee. I am not sure where the Jay storyline is going to end up, but it is going to be interesting to watch. Had to smile at Richard with Jack.
Johnny was not "better". Ted Reilly is a rubbish actor, and he always will be.
flappinfanny
30-07-2016, 18:04
Johnny was not "better". Ted Reilly is a rubbish actor, and he always will be.
I am not saying he is a good actor, I just thought he had improved and was getting better. He is still wooden. Sam Strike was more convincing in the role, but to be truthful the few scenes Sam had in his stint as Johnny, along with the fact they were a while ago, it is hard to remember Sam as Johnny. I hope Ted will continue to improve, but to be honest I'm not that much a fan of Harry (shouty) Reid either. He pulls too many faces. A shame Johnny Labey was axed because he was the best of a mediocre bunch.
flappinfanny
31-07-2016, 10:03
Just caught up with Friday's. Babes an evil old witch. she has got to get her comeuppance. Lee is a spineless wonder. Interesting storyline with Andy. We can see where this is heading.
I do feel sorry for Jay. :( How dare Babe treat Jay like that, after her grubby past. :angry:
tammyy2j
31-07-2016, 23:17
Babe needs be thrown out by Mick and Linda :angry:
Rear window
01-08-2016, 07:29
Babe needs be thrown out by Mick and Linda :angry:
I think she needs a proper ending.
Maybe a Les special? Off in a box.
About time deans trial was mentioned.
tammyy2j
02-08-2016, 14:24
Why is Vincent so interested in Denise's love life?
Can we expect an affair down the road for them :thumbsdow
EEs needs to stop stringing out the Andy story... I now DONT CARE..(sorry for shouting)
Plus Babe, OMG can she for once get a come back for being so vile, she steals babies and sells them, black mails folk blah blah blah yet she never gets more than a "oh you"
tammyy2j
04-08-2016, 10:59
EEs needs to stop stringing out the Andy story... I now DONT CARE..(sorry for shouting)
Plus Babe, OMG can she for once get a come back for being so vile, she steals babies and sells them, black mails folk blah blah blah yet she never gets more than a "oh you"
I think the end of Andy's storyline is now upon us
EEs needs to stop stringing out the Andy story... I now DONT CARE..(sorry for shouting)
Plus Babe, OMG can she for once get a come back for being so vile, she steals babies and sells them, black mails folk blah blah blah yet she never gets more than a "oh you"
Agree on both counts. Babe well overdue for pay back, but a character EE needs imo. May now have taken her past the point of no return. As far as Andy is concerned ,a storyline that promised much but delivered little.
parkerman
04-08-2016, 16:55
As far as Andy is concerned ,a storyline that promised much but delivered little.
Is he a friend of Gavin's then?:lol:
is courtney supposedly younger than ben and louise, she looks so :p
what a batman pow punch from jack
is courtney supposedly younger than ben and louise, she looks so :p
what a batman pow punch from jack
Courtney is supposedly 19
Courtney is supposedly 19
Yes, she was born 11 March 1997 so 19 would be correct
flappinfanny
05-08-2016, 18:26
is courtney supposedly younger than ben and louise, she looks so :p
what a batman pow punch from jack
In the real world someone built like Andy/Gareth would have beat the crap out of Jack, as he is heading towards his bus pass. Highly amusing for all the wrong reasons.
flappinfanny
05-08-2016, 19:09
What was the point of the Ronnie/Andy/Gareth storyline???? Babe is totally vile, she needs to get what's coming to her. I did try to feel sorry for Jane, but I just couldn't summon up any sympathy. The Beale family unit is completely ruined.
EastEnders has certainly lost it's sparkle at the moment.
moonstorm
05-08-2016, 21:03
Ok, so Claudette murders Babe (Vincent already alluded to her evil side tonight) to protect Pam, Abbey gets the blame (hence tonight's showdown), therefore, Max will have to return to save the day. Well that's what I think!!
Rear window
05-08-2016, 21:05
I do hope this is the end of Babe.
She's just very nasty.
belinda after grant interesting but he wants sharon
tammyy2j
05-08-2016, 23:52
I did think Belinda could be Grant's new love interest as no one else around his age around even though he was with Chelsea too who is younger than him and Denise's daughter
I wish Whitney had stayed strong and not caved after Linda's chat back to Lee :thumbsdow
I agree Babe is nasty but she is so well played by Annette Badland it is a shame to lose her completely
Patrick does remember he thought he killed Claudette and now he asks her to salsa dance, is he after her again romantically?
So it that it for Andy'Gareth, I prefer Andy as his name suits him more
flappinfanny
06-08-2016, 00:11
I have never really been a fan of Ross Kemp, I have always thought Steve McFadden was a cut above. Even being kind and allowing for the fact Ross may be a little bit rusty being out of the acting game for a few years, he did seem wooden. I don't think we needed him back to be honest.
I thought tonight's episode was an improvement, I wasn't meant to, but I burst out laughing when Babe threatened Abi at Dot's. Lets hope Claudette finishes the old trifle bag off.
One thing I did notice tonight, they are a very forgiving lot in Walford. Patrick dancing with Claudette and Ronnie wanting Andy to stay. I think Sean O connor must not be too keen on Gillian Taylforth. Some of the material she is getting is appallingly bad. What was the point digging her up for the dead??????????????????????????????????????/
The duff duff was very hammy, old hits revisited. :( On a positive note, I like Courtney.
parkerman
06-08-2016, 08:39
Ok, so Claudette murders Babe (Vincent already alluded to her evil side tonight) to protect Pam, Abbey gets the blame (hence tonight's showdown), therefore, Max will have to return to save the day. Well that's what I think!!
And Max manages to pin the blame on Ian and Jane, who get life imprisonment. :thumbsup::cheer:
moonstorm
06-08-2016, 09:00
And Max manages to pin the blame on Ian and Jane, who get life imprisonment. :thumbsup::cheer:
Ah missed that wee bit!
moonstorm
06-08-2016, 09:00
And Max manages to pin the blame on Ian and Jane, who get life imprisonment. :thumbsup::cheer:
Ah missed that wee bit!
why was stacey at beale house, is she ok with beales too for what they did to max
danielle was andy's bigsister really, casting wise he looks older
why was stacey at beale house, is she ok with beales too for what they did to max
danielle was andy's bigsister really, casting wise he looks older
flappinfanny
09-08-2016, 00:14
After all those years, it finally comes out about Mark and has the dramatic effect of a wet fish and very under whelming.
I thought the episode was okay, Les and Pam were very good and it was heartbreaking watching Les. I like the relationship between Jay and Ben although Harry Reid is still a little ott for me. I think they are trying to turn them into a younger version of Phil and Grant.
Ross Kemp was still a little wooden and when comparing him to Steve McFadden there is a huge difference in acting ability, although I suppose it is a bit unfair to compare the two. Every time we see the Beale's I become less interested by the episode. I couldn't care less about Jane.
Rear window
09-08-2016, 09:05
The Ben scenes seeing Paul made me feel really wretched.
The rest was mostly fluff. I did think Ronnie was going to ask about having another baby rather than marrying her.
tammyy2j
09-08-2016, 14:44
Did Michelle write directly to Peggy or Sharon about her son with Grant?
Did Michelle write directly to Peggy or Sharon about her son with Grant?
must be to peggy
Did Michelle write directly to Peggy or Sharon about her son with Grant?
must be to peggy
flappinfanny
10-08-2016, 00:22
I had to smile at the scene with Grant and Ian. I like Belinda and Stacey together. We are obviously going to see Mark Jnr sooner rather than later and with an English Accent. :D
I also thought Stacey was hilarious describing Grant as a Gorilla and even funnier when Belinda asked if Stacey or Kat had slept with Grant.
grant and ben barely know each other but he is back for him according to everyone
i wonder what grant would make of bobby and the cover up, hope he finds out
grant and ben barely know each other but he is back for him according to everyone
i wonder what grant would make of bobby and the cover up, hope he finds out
tammyy2j
11-08-2016, 14:19
I had to smile at the scene with Grant and Ian. I like Belinda and Stacey together. We are obviously going to see Mark Jnr sooner rather than later and with an English Accent. :D
I also thought Stacey was hilarious describing Grant as a Gorilla and even funnier when Belinda asked if Stacey or Kat had slept with Grant.
I liked Grant with Belinda too, they were fun and had chemistry, shame he is gone again hope he is back soon
Jane's chat with Grant was also good
For a gorilla he gets around and scores :p
jane will tell grant about his son who looks and sounds a posh eton boy
flappinfanny
11-08-2016, 22:52
So we finally meet Mark Jnr and he's not a gorilla.
http://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/32/980x490/landscape-1470939061-soaps-eastenders-ned-porteous-mark-fowler-junior-2993384848493.jpg
He looks more like John Travolta. Are we sure he is related to Grunt?????
I can see why they have cast Ned Porteous. Gone are the days when EastEnders will cast a minger. :D
Wouldn't it be great if Michelle was to follow Mark Jnr. I am sure it won't happen sadly. :(
flappinfanny
12-08-2016, 23:59
I'd pay Claudette to bump Babe off. Seeing Mark Jnr on the square is quite odd. I hope Denise and Kush do have some sort of relationship, it works between the two of them. Mick is a an idiot, he forgives Babe and lets her back in, just because she can cook a pie. He is weak as water.
Rear window
13-08-2016, 09:25
I'd pay Claudette to bump Babe off. Seeing Mark Jnr on the square is quite odd. I hope Denise and Kush do have some sort of relationship, it works between the two of them. Mick is a an idiot, he forgives Babe and lets her back in, just because she can cook a pie. He is weak as water.
Don't care who bumps her off but I want it to be satisfying .. perhaps her life can flash before her showing all the evil things she has done and she can try to apologise for her sins but we'll know she'll be burning in hell for the misery she has caused.
I'd pay Claudette to bump Babe off. Seeing Mark Jnr on the square is quite odd. I hope Denise and Kush do have some sort of relationship, it works between the two of them. Mick is a an idiot, he forgives Babe and lets her back in, just because she can cook a pie. He is weak as water.
I don't get why Mark looked like he just stepped out of Grease. That hair and those clothes made him look like a relic from the 70's. Whoever decided that was the look to go for should be fired.
Are these walk-in freezers not supposed to have opening facility from inside too to prevent being locked in, accidentally or purposely ?
flappinfanny
16-08-2016, 00:00
Well who locked trifle head in the freezer? My money's on Sylvie.
A shame Masood is a spare part now. The Babe who dunnit, is hardly original, but highly entertaining and the best part of the episode. Why is Dot trying to be a Cilla Wannabe? Ridiculous. Claudette was wobbling well tonight, I did think Patrick might lose an eye.
Well who locked trifle head in the freezer? My money's on Sylvie.
A shame Masood is a spare part now. The Babe who dunnit, is hardly original, but highly entertaining and the best part of the episode. Why is Dot trying to be a Cilla Wannabe? Ridiculous. Claudette was wobbling well tonight, I did think Patrick might lose an eye.
is claudette really interested in paddy or wanting revenge still
Well who locked trifle head in the freezer? My money's on Sylvie.
A shame Masood is a spare part now. The Babe who dunnit, is hardly original, but highly entertaining and the best part of the episode. Why is Dot trying to be a Cilla Wannabe? Ridiculous. Claudette was wobbling well tonight, I did think Patrick might lose an eye.
is claudette really interested in paddy or wanting revenge still
Well who locked trifle head in the freezer? My money's on Sylvie.
A shame Masood is a spare part now. The Babe who dunnit, is hardly original, but highly entertaining and the best part of the episode. Why is Dot trying to be a Cilla Wannabe? Ridiculous. Claudette was wobbling well tonight, I did think Patrick might lose an eye.
that made me chuckle ...
So Mr lisnner sp? the market inspector is back, I did read the posted info that he was coming but it dosent stop me wondering what the actor has been doing in the gap years, possibly a dog act with the axed Wellhard.
Anyways, no EE tonight as its important we all watch the Olympics thingy at whats the place. :ninja:
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