Eastender current episode discussion IV

[Dennis tanner]

Alas I hear Mick is selling him off for spare parts to save the Pub, because as he said "he needs five bags"

Bless poor innocent Ben needs to be protected from the truth, he may of maimed his school boy mate, killed a women with a picture frame stole his dead cousins belongings while she lay on a common but this would destroy the little mite.

Very well said

[Rear window]

it's like some tense horror drama. lauren! get out!

[Splashy]

Is Luke the reincarnation of Dearth Vadder ? (oh wow im a bit slow ive just spotted what the writer did there I wonder if the producer noticed)
Had me rolling on the floor both times he made his throttle move.

Since when did Lauren ever care about anyone but herself.

So the Queen Vic crew have managed to raise fifty grand how?

I was all of a panic that Woody from Blue was going to sing, but Im not sure the daddy dancing was much of a let off.

[Rear window]

yes, only seven k to go.
presumably johnnie is a crowdfunding genius

[flappinfanny]

In real life Josh would have knocked the crap out of Psycho Luke.

[parkerman]

I have a confession to make - I actually watched Friday's episode in the hope things might have improved. However.....

Can someone explain to me how it was that Luke had never heard of Project Dagmar even though there was a dirty great model of it in one of their meeting rooms labelled "Dagmar Project"?

[Perdita]

I have a confession to make - I actually watched Friday's episode in the hope things might have improved. However.....

Can someone explain to me how it was that Luke had never heard of Project Dagmar even though there was a dirty great model of it in one of their meeting rooms labelled "Dagmar Project"?

Well of it was labelled "Dagmar Project" he minght not have associated it with "Project Dagmar2 ??

[parkerman]

well of it was labelled "dagmar project" he minght not have associated it with "project dagmar2 ??
:d

[lizann]

1st episode of new boss John Yorke tonight

[flappinfanny]

Not a good start for the old new boss. We will see. Ian does not give a stuff Jane has left him. And what is all this nonsense with this Aidan bloke who knew Phil in the clink.

[lizann]

when was phil inside prison again?

[lizann]

carmel not cold :p welcome back massy

[Dennis tanner]

when was phil inside prison again?

When he was off screen for a few months

[lizann]

When he was off screen for a few months

when about and why? for panto? last off screen he was recuperating from new liver

i cant remember phil in prison anyone refresh me please

[parkerman]

when about and why? for panto? last off screen he was recuperating from new liver

i cant remember phil in prison anyone refresh me please
Phil said it was about 15 years ago when he met Aidan in prison didn't he?

[flappinfanny]

So Woody has gone with out Whit, smart boy. She did not look to disappointed. Linda will not be happy. I hope Woody comes back at some point, Lee Ryan was surprisingly very good in the role and i prefer him to Mick. Carmel you trollop. So Mas is back.

[tammyy2j]

Whitney should make a fresh start away with Bianca or Ryan

Has there been anymore on Phil's lies to Jay and why?

[lizann]

dumbo mick should listen to mother as she knows best when it comes to whitney who should just f#ck off

[Splashy]

So Mick has only gone and lost the pub :rotfl: Plus there will be all these cloud funding people that will want a kick at his rump :rotfl:

Ben is the least street wise thug in a soap, how did he not see that attack coming and why was Jay such a tool wanting his mate to sell out over a car. .. who needs enemies when you have a Jay in your life.

Scene in pub with the posh gang was laughable

[Perdita]

Nothing from what I read on here entices me to start watching EastEnders again ...

[flappinfanny]

Max is a swine, i almost felt sorry for Carmel, almost. I hope Kush beats the crap out of Max on Monday. Loved JWB at the end, so funny. Even Mick was gobsmacked. :rotfl:

[Dennis tanner]

Nothing from what I read on here entices me to start watching EastEnders again ...

Don't be too hasty. Every so often they do have a good episode

[Perdita]

Don't be too hasty. Every so often they do have a good episode

That might be so and I might watch it on catch-up if somebody highly recommends it .. but then I might still give it a miss

[tammyy2j]

Why does Mick have to invited Whitney back to his family :angry::thumbsdow

Now Max is outed, will Jane return?

I do not feel sorry for Carmel she is collateral damage and innocent in the revenge of Max and JWB

[flappinfanny]

Don't be too hasty. Every so often they do have a good episode

Steady on Dennis, calm down.

[Splashy]

The final revelation was a bit of a let down... I suppose pre water shed they couldnt use the rape word. or legally once someone has served their time etc etc etc .. blah blah blah .. But Kathy could of stopped this all when she got the visit from her convicted attacker, but of course she didnt report it.

The epp was watered down with the Kim and Ben sagas. I have to say would anyone take maturnal adv ice from a nurse who had a baby she didnt even know she was having

Max and self harming... very well written, the cigar ones make the biggest white blemishes that never go away, they are a constant reminder of bad bad bad days.

Whats his face punching Max in the face, he should be arrested and prosecuted. I hate anyone who delivers a cowards punch like that, it can kill.. yes knee him in the nads at worst which would be a reflection on his deviant proclivities.

[Rear window]

I thought it was a bit of a crap episode all told. The showdown was mean to Max - I did feel very sorry for him at the end but it's his own decision to get involved in the snake-people and destroy the place his family once called home.
It will seem fitting that his kids leave now.

Sad miscarriage storyline thrown in there - so soon after the stillbirth one.

[tammyy2j]

I liked Jack and Stacey still on Max's side and I hope Jack stays on his side even when Charlie and Matthew stuff comes out

Max is very damaged and his stint in prison has really affected him

Fi acts fearful of her father and Luke

[Glen1]

The amount of hypocrisy aimed at Max by certain individuals in the Vic was overwhelming. Ian Beale ,finger pointing, are residents even aware of his involvement in the Lucy Beale murder and cover up. Jane and Abi of course not present ,no doubt they'll be weeping, wailing and shouting, if and when they return. Lauren, yes of course you were very supportive of your father ,when he was locked up, NOT. Mick, you dropped yourself in it ,you pulled the chain on the Vic . You didn't need any help. Last but not least Kush , right little paragon of virtue you are mate, :rotfl: Bet you wouldn't have been rushing in to whack Martin Fowler, oh sorry you've already had a taste of what he can dish up. :) Can't wait to see what lies in store for Willmott-Brown and the other weasel Luke,whatever it is , hope it hurts. See Hugo vanished mighty quick after the big reveal, I bet the Bentley was left ticking over for his hasty retreat. Funny part of the Vic scenes for me was a 6 foot tall Mick stood on his 1 foot platform behind the bar , and a 5 foot & a bit Willmott-Brown stood in front looking up at Mick ,threatening him to get out of his pub. :o

[lizann]

what properties has willy brown bought, not all, vincent's albert and phil's garage safe as well as jack many flats and businesses

[lizann]

lauren to turn her back on max again rip up his contract

[Timalay]

what properties has willy brown bought, not all, vincent's albert and phil's garage safe as well as jack many flats and businesses

I think Jack or Max said the other day that he sold the flats. R&R may not be owned by them.

[tammyy2j]

what properties has willy brown bought, not all, vincent's albert and phil's garage safe as well as jack many flats and businesses

He owns Kathy's cafe

[Son of Cain]

I think Jack or Max said the other day that he sold the flats. R&R may not be owned by them.

Does R&R still exsist?, not heard mention of it for a long time. If so who owns it now?

[Timalay]

I believe so. I think Phil still owns it.

[Rear window]

presumably it'' be called yuppy-enders

[lizann]

what about ronnie boxing gym?

[Dennis tanner]

Why does Mick have to invited Whitney back to his family :angry::thumbsdow

Now Max is outed, will Jane return?

I do not feel sorry for Carmel she is collateral damage and innocent in the revenge of Max and JWB

Let's not forget that Max was a victim of the Beales.

[flappinfanny]

EastEnders on good form this week. Still can't muster any sympathy for Max(well)

That punch by Kush make a mess of his face, excellent work by the makeup department. Tameka Epsom was very good as Kim. The whole Aidan storyline with Phil and Vincent is a little tiresome and not my cup of tea.

[parkerman]

Let's not forget that Max was a victim of the Beales.

Eastenders knew they had messed up with that whole Beale/Max saga as there was no way they were going to get rid of Ian, so they were forced to find another way out. Their way out was to turn Max into a baddie, so that somehow he became villified and Ian was freed from all responsibility for his actions. At first even that didn't work, so they roped Willmott-Brown into the story, a character, who, under any other circumstances, would never have come back.

This whole thing since the murder of Lucy has been a stain on the history of Eastenders.

[tammyy2j]

EastEnders on good form this week. Still can't muster any sympathy for Max(well)

That punch by Kush make a mess of his face, excellent work by the makeup department. Tameka Epsom was very good as Kim. The whole Aidan storyline with Phil and Vincent is a little tiresome and not my cup of tea.

I keep waiting for Aidan to do magic with his stick :p

[Rear window]

without a Dallas shower scene to undo Lucy's death, its all just a bit more silly.

[lizann]

max made big bad wolf picking on poor ian beale who never does nought wrong

[lizann]

not even a bit of guilt from lauren, feel for max he truly deserves his full revenge, top class acting from jake wood

[Glen1]

Cracking episode , would have loved for Max to have publically confronted Ian Beale and some of the others. Superb performance from Jake Wood. Hope this won't be his finale. :clap:

[Rear window]

him telling everyone why they were on his list would have been good.

[Splashy]

Max had the top hand why didnt he play it to the full?

Lauren carping on and on was just annoying not entertaining, the level of her delusion was just insane. Abi playing the simpleton didnt help the scene and Jack.. suddenly standing up for the brother he had before left to rot in prison?????

But then Max did kill Stephen, well more man slaughter as it was his pussh that made him hit his head that killed the gezzer and he also attempted to kill Jane.

[lizann]

max still loves and wants stacey

[flappinfanny]

max still loves and wants stacey

I agree and i think Stacey does as well.

[flappinfanny]

For the first time i did feel sorry for Max, but that was more to do with Jake Woods powerful performance. A superb episode. EE at it's very best. For me both Jake Wood and Jac Jossa were excellent. Lauren was spot on when she flew at Stacey.

I do wonder how Max can stop on in the sqaure, as much as we don't want to loose the talents of Jake, i think a nice ending would be for Lauren, Abi and Max to leave the square together to start afresh. In real life there is no way Max would be able to stop around after what he has done.

I wonder if Max will come clean to Jack about what he did regarding Matthew.

[Rear window]

I agree and i think Stacey does as well.

how many times has she been married?

[parkerman]

how many times has she been married?
Three, but only two different men!

[Dennis tanner]

EastEnders on good form this week. Still can't muster any sympathy for Max(well)

That punch by Kush make a mess of his face, excellent work by the makeup department. Tameka Epsom was very good as Kim. The whole Aidan storyline with Phil and Vincent is a little tiresome and not my cup of tea.

Kim is and always has been totally ridiculous

[tammyy2j]

I agree and i think Stacey does as well.

I think Stacey loves Martin but will always be close to Max, I think Lauren's words hit her hard as there was truth in them

[flappinfanny]

Kim is and always has been totally ridiculous

I agree she can be, but i disagree with "always." We have seen a different side to Kim recently. Also we saw a different Kim when she tryed to stop Denise giving her baby away.

[flappinfanny]

I don't like all this ganster nonsense with Aidan. The rest of the episode was watchable. JWB has got some nerve drinking in the Vic.

[lizann]

why did aidan stage his robbery just to get mick carter in on his plan, he walks around like a panto baddie a wannabe bill sikes or fagin

[Dennis tanner]

I agree she can be, but i disagree with "always." We have seen a different side to Kim recently. Also we saw a different Kim when she tryed to stop Denise giving her baby away.

On that occasion she was very very annoying. Anyway, she looks ridiculus and acts ridiculous

[flappinfanny]

On that occasion she was very very annoying. Anyway, she looks ridiculus and acts ridiculous

Okay you win. :thumbsup:

[Splashy]

I forgot about Matthew FF.

Umm .. Stacy does have a deep attachment to Max, but I think it isnr a sexual one on either side. They just get each other and look for each other in times of need. Lauren was very out of order with her comments , she long since forgave Stacy so to bring it up again wa out of self defence of her own vile behaviour choosing to let Max rot in prison even thou she knew he was innocent.

Whats his face Dira said on the Last Leg that Micks role was heading very a very dark place this crimbo.

[lizann]

i would think linda would want away from the vic pub

[flappinfanny]

It was nice to see Cora, a real treat, Ann Mitchell is a class act. Max(well) is no Paul Hollywood is he? I thought the Kathy and Ian scenes were very good. I thought Bernadette was better than that. Hardly any gangster nonsense, so that was good.

[lizann]

so denise rang cora or tanya to keep max from his son

[Splashy]

If I was driving a 4 by 4 and a mini stole my place, i would park on his roof :cartman:

Some proper unnaughty acting from Danny.

These cloud fund people, wont they wont their dosh back?

[Rear window]

If I was driving a 4 by 4 and a mini stole my place, i would park on his roof :cartman:

Some proper unnaughty acting from Danny.

These cloud fund people, wont they wont their dosh back?

wb said they would give that bit back

[Son of Cain]

If I was driving a 4 by 4 and a mini stole my place, i would park on his roof :cartman:

Some proper unnaughty acting from Danny.

These cloud fund people, wont they wont their dosh back?

You just knew the guy in the mini would be who they came to see

[Son of Cain]

wb said they would give that bit back

How could he do that, he would not have the details of those that contributed.

[Rear window]

How could he do that, he would not have the details of those that contributed.

i don know unless the crowd funder could do it.. but how woukd they know which money was which?

[Perdita]

How could he do that, he would not have the details of those that contributed.

Normally done online, they could find out who the donor was from IP address maybe?

[lizann]

is it somewhere local aidan and his goon dumb gang are robbing?

[flappinfanny]

good scenes with JWB and Ian. Adam Woodyatt can be very good when give the chance. This gangster stuff with Aidan is crap. Will Jack find out what Max did to him over Matthew?

[Splashy]

I know its soap blah blah blah ... but in real life Kathy should of gone to the Police the second he entered her work place. Yes his punishment has been served but she could of had a harassment warning issued against him meaning anything he did from that point that effects her would be prosecutable. That means any direct or indirect contact, WB buying her place of work her local and seeming aim to destroy her family comes under that umbrella. I mean that is what he is doing and not very subtly.

Ian confronting the fella was lame, his pathetic pleas were irksome to me. But then Kathy has told so many lies in the past I suppose it would be natural not to be implicitly trusting of her.

[tammyy2j]

Finally it looks like Max is going after Phil but of course we know Max will come out worst unless Aidan is part of Max and James's plans

[Glen1]

Can't fathom Aidan , the big heist must be Walfords worst kept secret, everyone's eavesdropping. He only needs to rope in Billy Mitchell, to just about cap it all . Hope someone decides to go after Ian Beale ,sometime soon.

[Dennis tanner]

It was nice to see Cora, a real treat, Ann Mitchell is a class act. Max(well) is no Paul Hollywood is he? I thought the Kathy and Ian scenes were very good. Corfa is an awful woman



I thought Bernadette was better than that. Hardly any gangster nonsense, so that was good. Why did you think that Bernaddette was better ?

[tammyy2j]

I thought Bernadette like Keanu had some good morals in the Taylor family and would not resort to blackmail and conniving like she did with Honey and Vincent

[lizann]

Can't fathom Aidan , the big heist must be Walfords worst kept secret, everyone's eavesdropping. He only needs to rope in Billy Mitchell, to just about cap it all . Hope someone decides to go after Ian Beale ,sometime soon.

aidan and his a team gang heist is unintentionally funny

his line to phil about ben not having his hair was class :p

[lizann]

matthew and charlie back just need jane, max out by jack then

[Splashy]

Bernadette ...shes becoming the new Fagin on the square.. oh please, the second she ripped off Honey the word would get around and no one would give her any work.

Josh really is a nonsense character, why give WB the memory stick if you were going to gain a back bone anyway? But yes he does get to have Lauren now, he can be the new baby sitter while she goes off and finds someone else.

Mick missed his chance, he should of served the Branning brothers then said "that will be 60 grand me old muckers"

[flappinfanny]

Corfa is an awful woman Why did you think that Bernaddette was better ?

We saw a different side to her when she was pregnant and then lost the baby.

[flappinfanny]

Jack will not put up with Max much longer. It was nice to see Matthew and Charlie. Can't believe it is nearly a year since Ronnie and Roxy died. The Robbie and Donna scenes were good. Good for Josh, I wonder if he will leave Walford With Lauren?

[Son of Cain]

I thought Bernadette like Keanu had some good morals in the Taylor family and would not resort to blackmail and conniving like she did with Honey and Vincent

With a mother like Karen I am not surprized by Bernadette's behavior. - Bernadette is definately her mother's daughter.

[lizann]

why do i keep watching, lauren warning ian and phil over max, he really now has no one

who contacted charlie that he knew max in trouble, is dot with him?

did ian leave louie all alone in the house?

[kaz21]

I think Ian did. I couldn’t believe it.

[flappinfanny]

Jack was very restrained when it came to Max, I was hoping he was going to knock him into next week. No gangster stuff tonight so that was a Brucie Bonus.

Good scenes in the Caf with Kathy and Fi and the scenes with Robbie and Donna were good. Is it me or is Robbie less annoying right now? :hmm:

[lizann]

I think Ian did. I couldn’t believe it.

what a super parent and grandparent no wonder bobby a killer think he needs releasing to finish off quite a few on the square

fi will kill her father she will crack

[kaz21]

I agree. I think fi will kill.

[Splashy]

Yeah, WB obviously plans another attack on Cathy, hes destroying her mentally right now the physical is to come, so will Fi be there to save Cathy and in doing so end the Willmot?

Rob and Donna love ... she could whip him into shape, there is chemistry there between the actors.

[tammyy2j]

Donna is a great character that should be used more and I like her with Robbie

[Rear window]

Donna is a great character that should be used more and I like her with Robbie

I hope they develop this more

[lizann]

jay telling abi just forget about max, he misses jase and was ostracised by square as sex offender, thought better from jay

[Splashy]

If Mick was clever he would arrange for the Vic to become a squat when when he hands over the keys, it would be a real nightmare for the WB to get rid of them before they could knock the place down.

Abi is as ruthless as Max so they have that bond, she tried to Drown Lauren remember and made it clear she was evil to Stephen.

Sorry Irish bloke, Vincent has no sphericals Kims got them locked in a box somewhere.:cartman:

Im looking forward the happy happy Christmas epp where all is just dandy and lovely. :angel:

[lizann]

abi is 6 months up duffy but no sign of any bump

is kim actress really up duffy?

[Splashy]

So Micks going to be a hard man and rob a bank yet he didnt have the conolies to tell his treacle to back off and let him go out.

[lizann]

the carters have no money and were married only a year or two ago so why is linda going all out again, her kids lee and nancy will miss it

[Glen1]

Nice to see Ian getting a slap, ought to have been higher on the Richter scale, but it's been long overdue.

[Dennis tanner]

We saw a different side to her when she was pregnant and then lost the baby.

Sorry. I was not impressed.

[Dennis tanner]

Donna is a great character that should be used more and I like her with Robbie

She's not great, She's very small actually.

[Glen1]

Great episode , Jake Wood outstanding imo. such an absorbing performance. :clap: Whatever the outcome of his current storyline ,EE really can't afford to lose the guy and his character Max. Looking forward to the Xmas episode ,which Jake Wood has said is the best script he's had . Whether that's promo hype ,we'll see.

[Splashy]

There is something wrong with me I kept chanting stick him Max during the Ian Beale scenes :lol:

Mick is tosh at hiding guns aint he...

Sack Tracy.. she screwed up the mystery santa thing, she cant argue as shes had her allowance of two words this month as an extra :moonie:

[parkerman]

There is something wrong with me I kept chanting stick him Max during the Ian Beale scenes :lol:


Let me assure you, you weren't alone, Splashy.

[flappinfanny]

I loved the end scene, brilliant performances from Adam Woodyatt and Jake Wood. When Ian grabbed that frying pan and walloped Max, I had visions of Pauline clapping from above. :D

[lizann]

go max go max go max, i feel max is from a shakespeare play

abi asking carmel had she seen max, lol, does she not know full story

[Rear window]

I can see coroners report now: death by christmas tree lights

[lizann]

laurel love for ian is just weird she prefers him to max

[lizann]

if someone tries to kill you, yes call phil not the police

[parkerman]

1. Of course, one of the main culprits in what Max is doing is the police. They should have prosecuted Ian and Phil when the truth about Bobby and the cover-up came out in the first place. Then at least there would have been justice for Max, but as it is, nothing and no alternative to taking the law into his own hands if he can't rely on the law dealing properly with it.

2. Lauren managed to stop Ian phoning the police by saying that if he did the truth about Lucy's murder would come out. I thought it had already come out. Doesn't everyone know?

[lizann]

oh stacey falling for max again

did lauren mean beales and phil part in cover up framing max but yes some coppers knew and did nothing

[tammyy2j]

laurel love for ian is just weird she prefers him to max

Yes I am baffled about Lauren's adoration for Ian

Max should get Ian and Phil to turn on each other :D

Who was minding Stacey's kids tonight, Martin and Rebecca was out on the market?

[flappinfanny]

A good episode, setting the seeds for Christmas week. Jake Wood and Lacey Turner were very good tonight. Although Stacey is playing with fire. A nice community feel to the show singing in the square, normally a Sally Army band playing, but don't think we had one this year? It was nice Karen could decorate the flat for her family.

[lizann]

A good episode, setting the seeds for Christmas week. Jake Wood and Lacey Turner were very good tonight. Although Stacey is playing with fire. A nice community feel to the show singing in the square, normally a Sally Army band playing, but don't think we had one this year? It was nice Karen could decorate the flat for her family.

i thought the singing was arranged by sonia for dot's return

[lizann]

stacey preferred to rumble around her living room for a fumble with max than see lily in her play, whitney also did not want to see lily?

i thought whitney would go see bianca for christmas

[Splashy]

Good on you Stacy .. Martin is a goon :ninja:

Im guessing EE isnt heading to happy time on crimbo day .. well IM shocked. :rotfl:

[Rear window]

Good on you Stacy .. Martin is a goon :ninja:

Im guessing EE isnt heading to happy time on crimbo day .. well IM shocked. :rotfl:

Yes, quite horrid, symbolic firey flames with angel having fallen

[flappinfanny]

I wonder if Lauren and Abi parting company like that going in different directions after seeing Max is an important moment?

I am hopping mad with the ending, I always watch the Christmas day episode, but I think i will swerve this tonight.

John Yorke doing EE greatest hits, not good.

After this I sincerely hope the Christmas Day Episode bombs.

[lizann]

Yes, quite horrid, symbolic firey flames with angel having fallen

karen as the angel in her onesie was funny

[Son of Cain]

Was the Nativity play held in the Community Centre, I thought it had been closed down.

[lizann]

Was the Nativity play held in the Community Centre, I thought it had been closed down.

yes it looked to be

[Rear window]

oh it is madness what Stacey is doing. And I really don't know why the carters are bothering renewing vows. I've always thought it's a sign things are really broken: mostly cos those i've known bother have got divorced after.

And the little eletcric fire in abils room?

[tammyy2j]

Is that Tanya back?

I am very disappointed in Stacey

[tammyy2j]

How can Max and Stacey live with themselves, another roof death caused by their affair, 2 deaths this time

[Rear window]

FFS They need to stop killing off sisters over Christmas.

[kaz21]

How can Max and Stacey live with themselves, another roof death caused by their affair, 2 deaths this time

I think it may push Stacy over the edge again.

[tammyy2j]

I think it may push Stacy over the edge again.

I just remembered Abi was pregnant so 3 deaths

Another episode for Stacey, how many bipolar maniac episodes will this be

Maybe her kid's fathers (Ryan, Kush and Martin) or just Martin can get custody of all, she made her priority Max not her kids :angry:

[lizann]

what is john yorke doing, jump the shark isn't the phrase i could use as it was worse

i think stacey in her white should have been shot or max fall off the roof on her #squash #stax :p

did kathy go ask phil to kill max?

[flappinfanny]

I did watch the Christmas Day episode. Well i watched all 3 soaps tonight. Nice surprise to see Jo Joyner. I still think the storyline with Max and Stacey sucks and is so wrong! Poor Martin he deserves better than this poor deluded slapper.

If Billy can survive a fall off a cliff in Carry on Corrie then Perhaps one of the Brannings is not dead? I think it is a shame to kill both characters off as it was with Roxy and Ronnie. You gain a bit of the "oh my god" factor and a little boost in the short term but what do you gain long term and does this help the health of the show?

We all know EE makes the most effort at Christmas (some uncharitale people might say what about the other 51 weeks of the year.) I think Ratings wise and shock wise EE will come out on top tonight, but both CS and ED had a tough gig tonight with strong programming from BBC One.

[flappinfanny]

what is john yorke doing, jump the shark isn't the phrase i could use as it was worse

i think stacey in her white should have been shot or max fall off the roof on her #squash #stax :p

did kathy go ask phil to kill max?

I think EE did that when they started doing resurrections.

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[parkerman]

Carry on Corrie

:rotfl:

[lizann]

they are alive miracle in walford good on keegan who must have recorded the fall giving it to the police

martin should kick out stacey keep the kids

the whole community again against max

[Perdita]

they are alive miracle in walford good on keegan who must have recorded the fall giving it to the police

martin should kick out stacey keep the kids

the whole community again against max

Doctor needed to speak to them about one daughter .. guess one of them might not have made it???

[Rear window]

Doctor needed to speak to them about one daughter .. guess one of them might not have made it???

abi. please

[lizann]

Doctor needed to speak to them about one daughter .. guess one of them might not have made it???

abi survives lauren brain dead

[parkerman]

I had great difficulty trying to take any of the episode seriously after the first minute when the policeman arrested Max for GBH before he knew anything about what happened or had interviewed anyone, let alone Max. It went downhill after that.

[Splashy]

Im so with Parkerman

"carry on corrie" funniest post of the year :rotfl::clap::cheer:

Id obviously had too much egg nog and missed the whole falling off the roof thingy.. going to have to re watch that again as I have no clue why they were up there..Shirley burping in Lydas ear made my day tonight.. :moonie:

[lizann]

I had great difficulty trying to take any of the episode seriously after the first minute when the policeman arrested Max for GBH before he knew anything about what happened or had interviewed anyone, let alone Max. It went downhill after that.

police don't even need an excuse now to arrest max

[parkerman]

police don't even need an excuse now to arrest max
Well he is a jailbird you know. Apparently he murdered Lucy. Just ask the righteous Ian.

[lizann]

stacey being "honest" with martin, was she not going off with max as she loved him

really want martin to kick her out

[Ruffed_lemur]

How can Max and Stacey live with themselves, another roof death caused by their affair, 2 deaths this time

Nothing was caused by Max and Stacey. It's all Bobby and Jane's fault!

[flappinfanny]

Martin, James Bye was excellent. You do have to feel for Martin. Sick of Mick and Linda and the Carters now. So who is dead? Abi or Lauren? My moneys on Abi?

[tammyy2j]

Nothing was caused by Max and Stacey. It's all Bobby and Jane's fault!

Yes Bobby killing Lucy was the start of everything but Stacey telling Max she wished he had fallen instead of Bradley after sleeping with him and admitting she had feelings for him was the reason for Max to be the roof wanting to jump which lead to Abi and Lauren going up to get him down but instead they fell

I would like both to survive but I think Abi and her baby will with Lauren dying and Tanya taking Louis or Peter coming back for Louis

If Max was the love Stacey always wanted why just stay with him 10 years before and save Branning deaths

I guess if she ends up pregnant again, this time by Max and the guilt leads to her bipolar starting up could be why Jean and Kat return

Stacey thinks just telling Martin she slept with Max will make everything ok, as she knows he loves her dearly :angry:

[lizann]

Well he is a jailbird you know. Apparently he murdered Lucy. Just ask the righteous Ian.

dastardly max :p

did the cops ever ask ian or phil why max wanted them dead? the new copper detective looked familiar who is the actor?

[Dennis tanner]

1. Of course, one of the main culprits in what Max is doing is the police. They should have prosecuted Ian and Phil when the truth about Bobby and the cover-up came out in the first place. Then at least there would have been justice for Max, but as it is, nothing and no alternative to taking the law into his own hands if he can't rely on the law dealing properly with it.



Yes, The fact that the Beales got away with it was totally ridiculous

[Dennis tanner]

I had great difficulty trying to take any of the episode seriously after the first minute when the policeman arrested Max for GBH before he knew anything about what happened or had interviewed anyone, let alone Max. It went downhill after that.

It was either murder or attempted murder. OR nothing

[lizann]

It was either murder or attempted murder. OR nothing

was it gbh max was being charged with?

[Ruffed_lemur]

I don't blame Max for any of this. All the people in Eastenders who do should take a good look at themselves, and see what THEY have done to Max.

[parkerman]

I don't blame Max for any of this. All the people in Eastenders who do should take a good look at themselves, and see what THEY have done to Max.

Especially the producers and writers.

[lizann]

I don't blame Max for any of this. All the people in Eastenders who do should take a good look at themselves, and see what THEY have done to Max.

karen taylor who barely knows him even said he has evil eyes you can tell it in the eyes something like that

the show just don't want to punish ian jane phil lauren and sharon instead make max as bad as they can, martin will probably blame him for taking advantage of his mentally sick wife, forcing himself on her

[parkerman]

Yes, it all goes back to DTC's days. He got the show into a complete mess with what was really an insoluble problem and then just p1ssed off, leaving whoever came behind him to clear it all up. However, it was obvious that they were not going to get rid of Ian, Phil and Sharon, so they were forced into the ridiculous storyline we have seen taking shape ever since.

Sadly, the whole thing really does leave a very sour taste in the mouth, both morally and dramatically.

[lizann]

well said martin it is stacey's fault now kick her out

kathy going all gangsta crushing nuts :p

[Splashy]

That was a load of crushed nuts:ninja:

[tammyy2j]

Kathy got her cafe back and can now serve her sausage sandwich :p

Was Max trying his charm on Fi again while his daughters in hospital very critical

I hate what the writers have done with Stacey and Martin

I like Karen's sister, let her take over the pub instead of Mick and Linda

[flappinfanny]

Not sure we needed 2, both episodes were okayish? Liked Kathy squashing Willy Browns Brussel Sprouts.

How dare Stacey treat Martin like that. Martin is spot on, she is revolting and how can she take the kids away, she is not fit to be a mother.

So it will be bye bye Abi? unless there is a twist.

[tammyy2j]

I don't blame Max for any of this. All the people in Eastenders who do should take a good look at themselves, and see what THEY have done to Max.

I think Max and Stacey have to take some blame for their affair ruining lives again

Max should have sued for wrongful imprisonment and come after the police, Ian, Jane, Phil and whomever else, the legal route, then if that did not work, get his revenge in a better way

The writers and producers had a mess and made more of a mess trying to clear up one mess

The actors take time off for pantos, would it be so bad to write Ian, Phil and Jane going to prison for a bit, how long was Phil away after getting his new liver

[lizann]

did the roof fall of abi and lauren really happen, is it a dream, horrible tragedy yet all worried about a party and tanya where?

[parkerman]

I'm sure I must have missed something, so can someone tell me what's happened to Tanya. Her daughter is dying and about to have a baby but she just disappears. Like I say, I'm sure there is a rational explanation, but I must have missed it.

[lizann]

I'm sure I must have missed something, so can someone tell me what's happened to Tanya. Her daughter is dying and about to have a baby but she just disappears. Like I say, I'm sure there is a rational explanation, but I must have missed it.

explanation it is max's fault, tanya isn't coping so is missing we may see her pop up in the pub to celebrate with lauren and abi's friends and relatives, all stupidly written

what a healthy baby girl, abi had prematurely, yet no bump

[parkerman]

explanation it is max's fault
Of course, I should have realised that. Send him to prison.

[tammyy2j]

Was it Max whom gave the doctors permission to deliver Abi's baby? And yes where is Tanya?

Does the Square just not know how serious Lauren and Abi's injuries are (or just not care) and should the Vic and it's roof not be closed off after their falls?

What documents had Max that fell and blew away, deeds to the Vic and Beales?

I have too many questions with this show

[parkerman]

Was it Max whom gave the doctors permission to deliver Abi's baby? And yes where is Tanya?
Yes, Max gave permission. Apparently Tanya wasn't concerned enough that her daughter was dying and about to give birth to stick around
Does the Square just not know how serious Lauren and Abi's injuries are (or just not care) and should the Vic and it's roof not be closed off after their falls?Nobody cares because they are Max's daughters and he's a jailbird.

What documents had Max that fell and blew away, deeds to the Vic and Beales?Yes, he had the deeds to all the properties in the Square that Weyland's had.

I have too many questions with this show All you need to know is that Max is a dastardly villain and Ian and Phil are fine upstanding pillars of the community.

[flappinfanny]

Strong powerful performances from Ann Mitchell and Jake Wood. Loved Karen and Joyce drunk behind the bar at the Vic.

[Dennis tanner]

Especially the producers and writers.

so true

[Splashy]

Martin being all thug like again, delivering a cowards punch to Maxs face.. shame Max didnt report him, he would be straight back in prison. But then thats Martin for you can only ever deal with stuff by the use of violence.

The young fella that free`d Mick.. the actios really now find his feet his sister not so much,

[lizann]

what the heck is aidan's heist plan, is he robbing mel owen

max undoing all his revenging which included jay jase dad lie

[Timalay]

Who on earth was in the van the Mick recognised?

[lizann]

Who on earth was in the van the Mick recognised?

masood ahmed

[Timalay]

No, I mean the one they were robbing.

[lizann]

No, I mean the one they were robbing.

is it one of fella's who worked with lee who robbed the pub who i think is mel and steve's son

[Timalay]

Wasn't he a different skin colour to that though.

[lizann]

Wasn't he a different skin colour to that though.

i am guessing from online chatter only unless he is a new recast lee :p

[flappinfanny]

What a strange episode, not a good special for New Years Day. Any good bits, scracthes head??? ...... The introduction of Masoods family looks promising. Michael in his pink dressing gown was a turn on, :love: but that is it. John Yorke wants to be given his P45. :readtheru

The only good think for EE was CS tonight was just as dire, but thankfully only 22 minutes long! :bow:

[lizann]

why is max running around giving back properties when his daughter whose mother is missing is dying and when did jack sell his properties, well R&R club at least?????

[parkerman]

when did jack sell his properties, well R&R club at least?????
Talking of which, when Jack asked Max why he was returning the club he said he didn't need money or property. What is Max actually living on? What money does he have?

[Rear window]

Talking of which, when Jack asked Max why he was returning the club he said he didn't need money or property. What is Max actually living on? What money does he have?

Who knows.

I've caught up and am confused.

So it's as simple as handing people a deed and asking them for some money?
But Cathy's cafe was a gift?

And how much did they get for the freehold? I didn't think it was £150k ... but that's what was quoted for buying it back.

And the disappearance of Tanya? Bizarre.
lauren's out of the woods he said, and they want him to turn Abi's machine off. And still no Tanya. So who will end up with Stephen's baby?

[parkerman]

Why do Soap producers and scriptwriters always have to show the police as so incredibly and unutterably stupid and completely hopeless?

[lizann]

halfwit staying on with carters another stray for them to keep like whitney

[Timalay]

when did jack sell his properties, well R&R club at least?????

He sold his share of the R&R to Phil ages ago if I remember rightly (to fund him and Micheal setting up the Boxing Gym. Or him and Max on the Carlot).

[tammyy2j]

Has anyone actually died yet?

Mick was shot in the arm but it looked like his side when Mas's convenient ex nurse Auntie was attending to him on the Vic table

[lizann]

He sold his share of the R&R to Phil ages ago if I remember rightly (to fund him and Micheal setting up the Boxing Gym. Or him and Max on the Carlot).

why was max returning the deed of the club to jack, he would have inherited his wife's share and amy got roxy's share, so jack sold it?

[lizann]

i think aiden has double crossed them all and has the money, billy gets the blame

ben and jay remember "dead" abi

[Splashy]

No I think Billy buried the money by mistake :rotfl: Will lead to some late night moody grave robbing which can only end well :rotfl:

Answer re above Max, he is living in his car.

L giving it loads again .. the women has no street smarts, just no common, she thinks going to yell at thugs will get her what she wants, well I suppose she must be used to getting what she wants with soft Mick but then he puts up with ya because your jis treacle.

Who is the crisp eating Lug who shot Mick?

[lizann]

when mick says pony does he mean sh*t

[parkerman]

when mick says pony does he mean sh*t
It's rhyming slang. Pony & trap.

[flappinfanny]

There is a strange vibe about the episodes this week, like the producers and script writers have been on weed. :rolleyes:

[Rear window]

There is a strange vibe about the episodes this week, like the producers and script writers have been on weed. :rolleyes:


I couldn't agree more.

The body rolling out of the coffin was akin to a Carry on idiots film rather than a soap. I thought it was horrendously disrespectful to have that happen and will have upset people who are mourning the recent dead.
The fake priest nonsense was just pathetically stupid and I thought briefly about making an official complaint about the episode after the body fell on the floor. Utterly rubbish TV, these funeral home scenes were appalling in so many ways.

I can only assume the 'money' was sent to the crem rather than buried. And I don't think it was money - he's used the phrase loot..

I think Eastenders producers have completely lost the plot at the moment.

[parkerman]

Spot on RW. It is just going from worse to even worserer.

Another thing, I can't believe that anyone would send sympathy cards or start a memorial collection until Abi is actually declared dead.

[Rear window]

Yes that was all a bit bleurgh as well.

Although if people had been told she's brain dead and the doctors want to turn the machines off then they mighthave assumed it's been done.

I just hope they don't take the piss completely and have her recover from brain stem death.

[mysangry]

for anyone having had a loved one have a brain stem death, it is agony and I get Max's behaviour but it is becoming a farse,
If Abbie is going to die it's time they put her to peace, and what of that poor premature baby, just lying there and no one showing any love for her, shocking!!

[Glen1]

Yes that was all a bit bleurgh as well.

Although if people had been told she's brain dead and the doctors want to turn the machines off then they mighthave assumed it's been done.

I just hope they don't take the piss completely and have her recover from brain stem death.
Setting up the collection in the café is probably down to thoughtless bossy boots Kathy, wouldn't think to consult Max. Does what she wants and when. Exactly what Ian would have done. Surprised Carmel didn't have her neb in it.

[parkerman]

By the way, where was Tanya supposed to be last night? Max gave Lauren those forms for Tanya to fill in and Josh returned them saying she didn't want to look at them. So she must be nearby somewhere. Why isn't she with Abi and/or the baby?

[Son of Cain]

No I think Billy buried the money by mistake :rotfl: Will lead to some late night moody grave robbing which can only end well :rotfl:

Answer re above Max, he is living in his car.

L giving it loads again .. the women has no street smarts, just no common, she thinks going to yell at thugs will get her what she wants, well I suppose she must be used to getting what she wants with soft Mick but then he puts up with ya because your jis treacle.

Who is the crisp eating Lug who shot Mick?

How could the coffins possibly get mixed up, the one with the body was in the viewing room/chapel of rest, and would presumably have been taken straight out to the hearse and on to the church. Billy said the one with money was double locked in the morgue, coffins unlike mobile phones are not something you can pick up by mistake. The whole scene was so contrived with the coffin lid sticking like that, obviously not the 'dog's.......' as Billy claimed or it would have been better fitted.
Wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Aidan has switched them round somehow.

Wish Linda would sod off to Watford and stay there, taking halfwit/halfway with her.

[Timalay]

why was max returning the deed of the club to jack, he would have inherited his wife's share and amy got roxy's share, so jack sold it?

I think Ronnie sold her share to fund the Gym (not too sure if it was to Phil or Janine), Roxy sold her share to Janine in spite of Phil and then Jannie sold her share to Phil to try and buy the Vic. Also, Sharon had a share in R&R which she sold back to Phil to help fund the Albert.

[lizann]

is the gym and club the same, when did jack sell them?

jack asking ian to talk to max to let his daughter die

[Rear window]

I think that's it for me watching. Nonsense all of it!

[lizann]

could the writers do anymore sterotypical sh&te writing of the irish

[parkerman]

Surely surely someone in authority at the BBC has to put a stop to all this complete nonsense. It is just making Eastenders look like a laughing stock and not in a good way. :angry:

[Perdita]

I think that's it for me watching. Nonsense all of it!

Watched a couple of episodes lately after over 2 years avoiding it ... going back to walking dogs when EE is on ....

[kayuqtuq]

Whoever came up with the heist plot line should be shot, it's utter tripe, and if I was one of the actors in this story I'd be embarrassed at having to act it!

[lizann]

Whoever came up with the heist plot line should be shot, it's utter tripe, and if I was one of the actors in this story I'd be embarrassed at having to act it!

patrick bergin must really need money

[flappinfanny]

Watched a couple of episodes lately after over 2 years avoiding it ... going back to walking dogs when EE is on ....

:rotfl:

[Dennis tanner]

Whoever came up with the heist plot line should be shot, it's utter tripe, and if I was one of the actors in this story I'd be embarrassed at having to act it!

Unless you were Perry Fenwick

[Perdita]

Unless you were Perry Fenwick

I think they are all happy to play along with their scripts as the job of a thespian is never a secure one!

[flappinfanny]

I can honestly say hand on heart for alot of this week i have not had a scooby doo what has been going on in Albert Sqaure and i have watched the episodes.

[parkerman]

I can honestly say hand on heart for alot of this week i have not had a scooby doo what has been going on in Albert Sqaure and i have watched the episodes.
You and several million other viewers!

[Splashy]

I just thought it was me, drunk on egg nogg that didnt get any of it! :rotfl:

[Rear window]

I just thought it was me, drunk on egg nogg that didnt get any of it! :rotfl:

I wrote a complaint!

[parkerman]

I wrote a complaint!

What, about Splashy getting drunk on egg nog?

[Rear window]

What, about Splashy getting drunk on egg nog?

Lol, no about eastenders driving us silly

[Katy]

I watched a little bit this week as I wanted to see what was going to happen to Abi and Lauren. Have not seen a lot of Eastenders but I literally had not got a clue what on earth is going on! EE meets the Sopranos. Its all very bizare.

[lizann]

it is worse than one of danny dyer straight to dvd rubbish films

[Rear window]

it is worse than one of danny dyer straight to dvd rubbish films

does he do acting?

[Perdita]

does he do acting?

Yes, but maybe not as good as some expect

[lizann]

does he do acting?

is playing himself count as acting, he no method thespian like danny day lewis

[tammyy2j]

Am I correct in assuming Phil Mitchell was being blackmailed by Max to lie to Jay about his dad for some months and did not try to "sort Max out the Mitchell way" and now Jay is fine with both Max, Phil and his grandfather for their lie as he got back ownership of the car lot, what a stupid storyline but stupid and Eastenders now fit perfectly

[Rear window]

Am I correct in assuming Phil Mitchell was being blackmailed by Max to lie to Jay about his dad for some months and did not try to "sort Max out the Mitchell way" and now Jay is fine with both Max, Phil and his grandfather for their lie as he got back ownership of the car lot, what a stupid storyline but stupid and Eastenders now fit perfectly

Yeah,

In a slightly unhinged sort of way the plot fell apart in that direction.

[lizann]

karen looking for a job in a onesie

ben getting one over on phil getting the jewellery and cash well done him

[parkerman]

So the police are suddenly investigating the robbery now.....

[flappinfanny]

Good scenes with Ben and Jay, so much better when Harry Reid does not shout and pull silly faces. Masood is being written as bit of a plonker. Loved the banter between Ian and Mas. Glad all this gangster crap is over. So Phil is in Italy, I presume so Steve McFadden can do his annual Panto. (or was that being in EE)
So Ben has the money. :D

[lizann]

is ben in cohoots with aiden and luke or mrs aiden and mel?

[flappinfanny]

is ben in cohoots with aiden and luke or mrs aiden and mel?

perhaps, or he thinks life is to short and he has seen the money and thought stuff it i am having this and leaving.

[Rear window]

Good scenes with Ben and Jay, so much better when Harry Reid does not shout and pull silly faces. Masood is being written as bit of a plonker. Loved the banter between Ian and Mas. Glad all this gangster crap is over. So Phil is in Italy, I presume so Steve McFadden can do his annual Panto. (or was that being in EE)
So Ben has the money. :D

I wasn't going to watch it anymore. But now you've made me want to.
Do you promise the gangster rubbish is all done?

[tammyy2j]

Tifffany back with Bianca's jacket :p I assume her and cousin Bex never met before

Why does Whitney not work anywhere else besides the pub?

[parkerman]

I wasn't going to watch it anymore. But now you've made me want to.
Do you promise the gangster rubbish is all done?
No, can't promise that.

[Rear window]

No, can't promise that.

Whoops, I've watched it. It's like giving up chocolate for lent all over again.

[flappinfanny]

I wasn't going to watch it anymore. But now you've made me want to.
Do you promise the gangster rubbish is all done?

Almost. Fingers crossed. :hmm:

[flappinfanny]

So Mel was watching Ben?

Is Karen's luck about to change?

The Ahmeds could be EE saving grace. Although they do remind a little bit like a sketch coming out of Goodness Gracious me. The writing could be better, but the ep was watchable.

[kayuqtuq]

Where have all the residents been taking their washing while the launderette's been closed? Are we really to believe that in this day and age, not one of the homes in Albert Square has a washing machine?

[lizann]

mel back for the stolen heist loot

[tammyy2j]

Where have all the residents been taking their washing while the launderette's been closed? Are we really to believe that in this day and age, not one of the homes in Albert Square has a washing machine?

I thought Ian and Stacey had in their kitchens, Lauren and Stacey have young children, where do they their washing?

[lizann]

jane who, once ian saw mel :p

[parkerman]

So Ben arrives at Customs with a suitcase full of money and jewels and they waive him through.....

[flappinfanny]

Mel's arrival is a bit of a an anti climax, but tomorrows episode will be interesting, i feel so sorry for Jay. I did like at the end how Ben Kissed the ring that he and Paul had. Ben has never got over that.

[flappinfanny]

It was odd re Ben? What a let down. The episode was terrible if i am being honest. Maisie Smith is appalling. Were the Masood and Karen scenes meant to be funny? John Yorke you are killing this show, go now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[alcapo11]

It was odd re Ben? What a let down. The episode was terrible if i am being honest. Maisie Smith is appalling. Were the Masood and Karen scenes meant to be funny? John Yorke you are killing this show, go now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was so weird! No goodbye scene between him and Jay? No Julias theme exit for a legacy character? Was just awful, I'm sure that some episodes are missing, it's just unbelievable how bad it's been since Christmas day.

[parkerman]

it's just unbelievable how bad it's been since Christmas day. Christmas 2015 is that?

[alcapo11]

Christmas 2015 is that?

lol very true

[lizann]

ben left jealous of jay and we will never know what happens to him just like luke

[lizann]

whitney taking over martin's house saying tiffany can stay, at least ask him or stacey

i did laugh at mas and shirley

[flappinfanny]

I hate Tiffany. Why bring the brat back and she can't act!

Compared to EastEnders right now Emmerdale is the National Theatre equivalent of Continuing Drama.

[tammyy2j]

What age is Tiffany meant to be and so far her and Mel's returns is stupid but again this is Eastenders

[kaz21]

What age is Tiffany meant to be and so far her and Mel's returns is stupid but again this is Eastenders
What I found online is 15. But not 100% sure if this is correct.

[tammyy2j]

What I found online is 15. But not 100% sure if this is correct.

She was friends with Bobby so would she be his and Dennis age?

[lizann]

She was friends with Bobby so would she be his and Dennis age?

bobby was her little fella, she had a lucky escape :p

[flappinfanny]

Tiffany annoying the hell out of me. Masood's family are great and loved the scene in the Vic with Shirley and Masood. Very funny. Mel's return so far is tosh, but we will see where it goes.


Liked the scenes with Dot and Karen in the laundrette. Very well done. Karen has a kind side taking the blame for shrinking Kush's jumper.

[lizann]

What I found online is 15. But not 100% sure if this is correct.

did whitney say tiffany is 14, and did something happen with her and tj and where is his kid?

billy going going doughy eyed and even more stupid than he was before for mel

[flappinfanny]

The Dot and Karen scenes are working well. I am almost feeling sorry for Max. Thank goodness June Brown has returned to the square. A much needed boost to the show. Compelling scenes with Dot, Max and Jack. Nice surprise to see TJ back.

[parkerman]

The Dot and Karen scenes are working well. I am almost feeling sorry for Max. Thank goodness June Brown has returned to the square. A much needed boost to the show. Compelling scenes with Dot, Max and Jack. Nice surprise to see TJ back.
You can't feel sorry for Max. He murdered Lucy you know. That nice Ian and Jane said so.

[flappinfanny]

You can't feel sorry for Max. He murdered Lucy you know. That nice Ian and Jane said so.

It was a Momentary Lapse, it won't happen again. I think Maxwell should have a slow painful ending.

[parkerman]

It was a Momentary Lapse, it won't happen again. I think Maxwell should have a slow painful ending.

I was thinking the same about Ian.

[flappinfanny]

I was thinking the same about Ian.

Indeed. I feel the same way about 75% of the Coronation Street Cast. Perhaps Phelan could knock a few off before he leaves.

[parkerman]

Indeed. I feel the same way about 75% of the Coronation Street Cast. Perhaps Phelan could knock a few off before he leaves.

Oh he will, he will. There's a lot of life left in that story yet. Another five or six years at least.