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flappinfanny
20-10-2016, 23:30
I couldn't stop smiling at Linda's knitting needles. :D
I wonder where they are going with the Dot storyline? very sad. I want Babes dressing gown. Lovely mention of Pauline again tonight. I like the idea of Pat's House being full of people again. A better episode than Tuesday.
I wonder where they are going with the Dot storyline? very sad. I want Babes dressing gown. Lovely mention of Pauline again tonight. I like the idea of Pat's House being full of people again. A better episode than Tuesday.
I wasn't really concentrating when Kim had the accident and I just assumed it was her fault (as did the residents of Albert Square), but during their conversion tonight she sounded genuinely aggrieved that she was being blamed for Dot's error. She might have hit the nail on the head when she accused Dot of going blind. The latter's no longer working and spends most of her time in the house alone. I wonder if anyone will even notice her deterioration? :(
(I wasn't quite sure what Dot was doing when she was scrabbling around in a cupboard towards the end so I might have missed something important.)
I'm also wondering where the embezzling storyline is going. It feels to me like it's going to lead into something bigger.
i believe kim's mobile fell on the car floor which she was retrieving so eyes off the road while driving
i believe kim's mobile fell on the car floor which she was retrieving so eyes off the road while driving
I vaguely remember Kim wasn't paying attention to the road, but I do think it's probably true that Dot pulled out right into her path. I don't remember if we saw Dot's point of view right before the accident though so I can't be sure.
Perhaps Dot's not herself because she's upset about losing her beloved job and is also very lonely rather than it being anything physical like eyesight loss. :(
Rear window
21-10-2016, 08:34
She put her car key in the bureau and locked it.
I wondered what Belinda is going to be doing to turn up with the rent tomorrow. Do city boys just fall into the pub from time to time?
She put her car key in the bureau and locked it.
Thanks! That suggests Dot shares Kim's view that she was at least partially to blame for the accident.
I wondered what Belinda is going to be doing to turn up with the rent tomorrow. Do city boys just fall into the pub from time to time?
I wonder if Belinda is going to take up "escorting" to earn money?
can jay ever catch a break
flappinfanny
21-10-2016, 23:07
The darts team scenes worked well, love the relationship/friendship between Linda and Sharon. I am wondering how they are going to write out Kellie Bright? I am also wondering how Danny Boy Hatchard is doing to leave. I wonder if Lee's depression will resurface?
Nice scenes with Dot and Patrick. Had to laugh at Donna offering Roxy her pickled egg. Steven is starting to feel worried.
Jay, Jay, Jay I had high hopes for you, sticking up for William and then what have you done, stealing from the Cokers. You bloody fool. :angry:
tammyy2j
22-10-2016, 23:29
I am finding Linda very annoying and can't wait for Kellie's maternity leave, I have really got a turn off of the Carter family
i was expecting the earrings to cost more than 60
was steven being legit and honest about peter?
i was expecting the earrings to cost more than 60
was steven being legit and honest about peter?
flappinfanny
25-10-2016, 00:32
I must admit I was a bit bored with tonight's episode, it seemed along 27 minutes. ( I don't think EastEnders works sandwiched in between the two Corrie's)
Aaron Sidwell stepped up to the mark tonight, the scenes with steven and Jane were very good, but I can't bare Lesley Jane taking the moral high ground after what she did with Lucy's body. The scenes with Ben and Denny were good as were the scenes with Kathy and Ben.
parkerman
25-10-2016, 09:12
I can't bare Lesley Jane taking the moral high ground after what she did with Lucy's body.
And that wasn't the worst of it. Letting Max go to prison was unspeakable. Moral high ground? Jane is in a cesspit of immorality - in fact she is a cesspit of immorality.
tammyy2j
26-10-2016, 11:03
I wasn't really concentrating when Kim had the accident and I just assumed it was her fault (as did the residents of Albert Square), but during their conversion tonight she sounded genuinely aggrieved that she was being blamed for Dot's error. She might have hit the nail on the head when she accused Dot of going blind. The latter's no longer working and spends most of her time in the house alone. I wonder if anyone will even notice her deterioration? :(
(I wasn't quite sure what Dot was doing when she was scrabbling around in a cupboard towards the end so I might have missed something important.)
I'm also wondering where the embezzling storyline is going. It feels to me like it's going to lead into something bigger.
I think you may be right with Dot going blind, does she already have glasses
I think Sharon's bratty son will scare her with his fireworks
Rear window
26-10-2016, 11:14
It's a bit frustrating the Kim vs Dot story.
Kim clearly dropped her phone was trying to get that when she ran into Dot. Whilst not having a driving licence to be unaccompanied.
Writing it that Dot's not able to see just wipes any blame from Kim which is wrong.
Dealing with the issue of Dot not being 100% fit to drive should have been kept separate from Kijm's driving lesson saga.
It's a valuable thing to get people discussing - when are you too old to drive. You have to self-declare and often the loss of independence is felt that it's the beginnning of the end for old people, especially those in rural areas.
I'm still quite horrified at the idea of Dot needing a car let alone driving. They're in London. Which has buses and tube that run at much greater regularity than anywhere else in the country. Dot works across the square from where she lives. She's always popping in to the minimart for things and there's a great veg stall there too. Why does she need a car?
tammyy2j
26-10-2016, 11:18
Does Ian and Jane not speak to Peter anymore?
That young son of Carmel with the bun is a huge douchebag (I feel so hip and cool using that word :p) Rebecca deserves better
flappinfanny
27-10-2016, 01:20
Lovely scenes with Dot and Patrick. Good to see EastEnders making the most of their older cast.
I wonder if they are setting the storyline up for Peter's return? I wouldn't trust Steven as far as I could throw him. I am surprise at Jane sticking up for Steven. We all know why Peter won't come back Jane, because of you protecting your Psycho son, who killed his sister. Who can blame Peter. The Beale's are rotten to the core. I don't think even SOC will be able to repair the damage left by DTC. They are repugnant.
tammyy2j
27-10-2016, 11:37
Lovely scenes with Dot and Patrick. Good to see EastEnders making the most of their older cast.
I wonder if they are setting the storyline up for Peter's return? I wouldn't trust Steven as far as I could throw him. I am surprise at Jane sticking up for Steven. We all know why Peter won't come back Jane, because of you protecting your Psycho son, who killed his sister. Who can blame Peter. The Beale's are rotten to the core. I don't think even SOC will be able to repair the damage left by DTC. They are repugnant.
Was it acknowledged that Peter stopped talking to Ian and Jane and cut off contact over Bobby?
It would have made sense for Lauren to have returned with Louis as she and Peter clashed over Max getting blamed but her return was a failure as she too sided with Bobby
And we to believe Stephen that Peter is now an alcoholic in New Zealand
flappinfanny
27-10-2016, 23:54
I enjoyed Kim in tonights episode, I did find her amusing the way she left the car virtually in the middle of the road. Stacey is just simply amazing. I love all the scenes in Pat's house. I can just picture Pat looking down on them all, smiling and saying to Stacey " you are doing a good job girl."
The Lee scenes are quite sad to watch, I wonder how Danny Boy is going to leave the show? and does Linda leave soon afterwards?
The Lee scenes are quite sad to watch, I wonder how Danny Boy is going to leave the show? and does Linda leave soon afterwards?
I find it quite strange that I've grown to like Lee for the first time. I've been indifferent to him before now and wasn't at all sad when I heard he was leaving. Better writing recently has made him much more relatable and I now wish he was staying (not least for Whitney's sake - who's also much more likeable nowadays).
Rear window
28-10-2016, 15:06
I enjoyed Kim in tonights episode, I did find her amusing the way she left the car virtually in the middle of the road. Stacey is just simply amazing. I love all the scenes in Pat's house. I can just picture Pat looking down on them all, smiling and saying to Stacey " you are doing a good job girl."
I do too. I hope her and Martin stay for many years. The square needs good strong couples.
Rear window
28-10-2016, 15:06
I enjoyed Kim in tonights episode, I did find her amusing the way she left the car virtually in the middle of the road. Stacey is just simply amazing. I love all the scenes in Pat's house. I can just picture Pat looking down on them all, smiling and saying to Stacey " you are doing a good job girl."
I do too. I hope her and Martin stay for many years. The square needs good strong couples.
flappinfanny
28-10-2016, 17:31
I have read an interesting post on EastEnders on another site by a great poster who sums things up perfectly on the soap audience of today and imo they are bang on the money.
I am paraphrasing but basically there's a generation of the soap audience who have been programmed to see shocks, twists, stunts and sensationalism as the norm and they can't comprehend normal storytelling. In fact I would add they wouldn't know a character led story line if they fell over it. This would be funny if it wasn't true.
I have read an interesting post on EastEnders on another site by a great poster who sums things up perfectly on the soap audience of today and imo they are bang on the money.
I am paraphrasing but basically there's a generation of the soap audience who have been programmed to see shocks, twists, stunts and sensationalism as the norm and they can't comprehend normal storytelling. In fact I would add they wouldn't know a character led story line if they fell over it. This would be funny if it wasn't true.
I think it is a very accurate statement by the poster ...
Boomerang
28-10-2016, 18:01
I have read an interesting post on EastEnders on another site by a great poster who sums things up perfectly on the soap audience of today and imo they are bang on the money.
I am paraphrasing but basically there's a generation of the soap audience who have been programmed to see shocks, twists, stunts and sensationalism as the norm and they can't comprehend normal storytelling. In fact I would add they wouldn't know a character led story line if they fell over it. This would be funny if it wasn't true.
That's very true, some soaps seem to churn out the shocks these days. I prefer storylines with substance, it's what got me hooked on EastEnders in the first place and why I keep watching.
I just happened to google Coronation Street a few weeks ago and the description that came up was that it was a program about ordinary folk. Well these days, the soaps are full of murderers, rapists, kidnappers, blackmailers etc that they can no longer be classed as bei ordinary.
I'm really glad of this back to basic approach EastEnders is taking at the moment.
flappinfanny
28-10-2016, 23:28
Watching the scene with Whitney and Lee is like watching a car crash happening in slow motion. Very sad.
I liked Sharon's new look without makeup. The Carters are so much more bearable and "normal." Liked the stag scenes and some nice interaction between the characters.
whit didn't invite babe tina sylvie or shirley to her hen
whit didn't invite babe tina sylvie or shirley to her hen
Maybe washing their hair that day??
Maybe washing their hair that day??
shirley has lots to wash :p
Maybe washing their hair that day??
shirley has lots to wash :p
flappinfanny
30-10-2016, 17:32
shirley has lots to wash :p
Shirl uses Wash and Go. :)
flappinfanny
30-10-2016, 17:33
I like how they are building the Dot storyline slowly.
phil has been using sharon's tan :p
jiggle jiggle claudette
phil has been using sharon's tan :p
jiggle jiggle claudette
flappinfanny
01-11-2016, 01:08
It was quite a shock seeing Phil in the hospital tonight. Not sure what his thoughts were with the will. Poor Ben.
Very sad about Dot. Love the friendship between Dot and Patrick. Good atmosphere in the Vic. Did any one else think Shirley's Halloween costume was scary? :D
tammyy2j
01-11-2016, 11:28
I thought Sharon was very pushy and greedy insisting her and Denny are in Phil's will
The Dot storyline is heart breaking :(
Could Stacey or Belinda ask Kat for help with the salon
I thought Sharon was very pushy and greedy insisting her and Denny are in Phil's will
It's not just about the money though. Being cut out of someone's will is a complete rejection and I imagine very hurtful. I think she was right to make sure herself and Denny wouldn't be out on the street penniless if Phil dies. Also, him leaving everything to a fourteen year old - and even cutting out his son - is such a ridiculous thing to do that I think they'd have a good chance of getting it overturned after his death anyway.
The Dot storyline is heart breaking :(
It really is, especially since June Brown is sadly losing her sight in real life. :( I wonder if the storyline was her idea?
It's heartwarming that Patrick is taking care of her.
I wonder if the Carter wedding is actually going to go ahead?
flappinfanny
02-11-2016, 01:11
So Claudette was finally put in her place. Randolph Walker was excellent. Loved Whitneys put down to Abi. So is Linda going to leave to look after Elaine? Can't be long before Kellie goes on maternity. Danny Dyer is winding me up again, with his cockney rap. I half expect Dick Van Dyke to pop round the corner. It seems so out of place even in Walford.
Claudette and Vincent's gangster accents are so funny, terrible but funny in the wrong sort of way. Won't be sorry to see the back of Claudette.
especially since June Brown is sadly losing her sight in real life. :( I wonder if the storyline was her idea?
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Im sorry to hear that, but alas any smoker is at risk as smoking increases the risk of age-related macular degeneration, cataracts, glaucoma and diabetic retinopathy and Dry Eye Syndrome. I was born with macular degeneration and wouldnt wish it on anyone.
Lee seems to be just looking for a way out of marrying the girl, it was he who got the STD in the first place for goodness sake and where dose he work?
last night i was expecting phil to tell kathy bug off to her fishy fella buster and for busty claudy to tell vincent he was eric son
has lee really got a job?
last night i was expecting phil to tell kathy bug off to her fishy fella buster and for busty claudy to tell vincent he was eric son
has lee really got a job?
Rear window
02-11-2016, 10:17
I missed Mondays but caught last nights. So why has he changed his will? And was ben previously included in it?
I missed Mondays but caught last nights. So why has he changed his will? And was ben previously included in it?
It was never explained to my satisfaction (other than the unconvincing story about Mitchell fathers and sons - which doesn't explain why Sharon was cut out anyway).
tammyy2j
02-11-2016, 10:48
It was never explained to my satisfaction (other than the unconvincing story about Mitchell fathers and sons - which doesn't explain why Sharon was cut out anyway).
Is Sharon and Phil divorced so she and Denny should not be in Phil's will?
I think Phil said something also about Louise carrying on the Mitchell name etc., as she could have children where Ben wouldn't as he was gay, I think still deep down Phil cannot accept Ben's sexuality choice :angry:
Is Sharon and Phil divorced so she and Denny should not be in Phil's will?
I think Phil said something also about Louise carrying on the Mitchell name etc., as she could have children where Ben wouldn't as he was gay, I think still deep down Phil cannot accept Ben's sexuality choice :angry:
I'm not sure if Phil and Sharon are actually divorced but she's living with him, supporting him, running his affairs and being treated as his wife. Non-married partners can be included in wills too. :p
I thought it was Sharon who suggested he'd cut Ben out because he was gay. Phil denied it and I believed him. It'd be ridiculous anyway since Ben already has a child (as Phil pointed out) and being gay doesn't prevent him having more. Also, why not leave anything to Lexi? The whole will thing was completely nonsensical. :wall:
I saw a suggestion on another site that perhaps Ben had been left out of Phil's will in an attempt to push him away so he wouldn't risk his life by donating his liver. I think that'd make some sense, but it doesn't explain the lunacy of the rest of the will...
tammyy2j
02-11-2016, 12:38
I'm not sure if Phil and Sharon are actually divorced but she's living with him, supporting him, running his affairs and being treated as his wife. Non-married partners can be included in wills too. :p
I thought it was Sharon who suggested he'd cut Ben out because he was gay. Phil denied it and I believed him. It'd be ridiculous anyway since Ben already has a child (as Phil pointed out) and being gay doesn't prevent him having more. Also, why not leave anything to Lexi? The whole will thing was completely nonsensical. :wall:
I saw a suggestion on another site that perhaps Ben had been left out of Phil's will in an attempt to push him away so he wouldn't risk his life by donating his liver. I think that'd make some sense, but it doesn't explain the lunacy of the rest of the will...
I forgot about Lexi maybe it was Sharon who said it was Ben being gay :o
Nothing to Grant or Sam in the will or his cousins but maybe Phil can sense their demise coming :p
I have read an interesting post on EastEnders on another site by a great poster who sums things up perfectly on the soap audience of today and imo they are bang on the money.
I am paraphrasing but basically there's a generation of the soap audience who have been programmed to see shocks, twists, stunts and sensationalism as the norm and they can't comprehend normal storytelling. In fact I would add they wouldn't know a character led story line if they fell over it. This would be funny if it wasn't true.
eastenders lately just dont know how to satisfyingly end a sensational storyline or even conclude a normal storyline
the dot storyline is the best written at the moment
i think stacey's mental health storyline was done well
it is nice every now and then to have a shock twist which is incorporated into a running storyline but not for no reason
kathy's return, no arrests for beales over lying and others for lucy's murder all bad decisions :thumbsdow
DTC just dont know how to satisfyingly end a sensational storyline or even conclude a normal storyline
I've taken the liberty of correcting your post for you. :p
Was that the original Tiffany? I read that it was but landlady dosent believe me .
Lee is sucking the life from the show, just fess up and stop letting Johnny ruin your wedding day...
Phil didnt get paid much that epp if it was down to words spoken. But that shrink would of been paid loads if he was employed at a prison, he took no prisoners and obviously knew Ben had killed in his past.
Yep your right, it is her. She's just all grown up.
Was that the original Tiffany? I read that it was but landlady dosent believe me .
Yes, Maisie's looking very grown up these days. I'd have been shocked to see her if I hadn't already seen recent photos of her in the media.
Lee is sucking the life from the show, just fess up and stop letting Johnny ruin your wedding day...
I found it very annoying that twice he tried to confess his feelings and twice he wasn't listened to! I know from my own experience how hard it is to start that conversation.
any talk of missing liam
where was lily?
any talk of missing liam
I think it was said he had norovirus along with Bianca.
The wedding episode was good and it's nice to see Whitney so happy (but also poignant because we know it won't last).
I find it frustrating that nobody has really noticed Lee's state of mind, and those who have noticed something's up have dismissed it as wedding nerves or money troubles. I remember us Corrie viewers feeling extremely frustrated that nobody noticed Steve was depressed, but at least this time it's being played out for more subtly so it's a bit more understandable.
tammyy2j
06-11-2016, 22:10
Yep your right, it is her. She's just all grown up.
Still a mini Bianca
I wonder did she enquire about her ex boyfriend Bobby :p
flappinfanny
06-11-2016, 23:10
What a sad episode, you could really feel Lee's pain and glad Johnny was supportive for once. Its not going to end well. I love how they don't bother to hide Linda's bump anymore. Whitney looked nice in her dress and I know some were complaining it was a boring wedding, but I thought they got it just about right. The duff duff was very sad.
A cold calling call centre is a soulless place to work, I managed an incoming call centre but the company brought in a new grade of employment, paid much less than my workers to make the cold calls. They just followed a script dictated to them on a screen with a couple of days only invested in training them. They either quit themselves out of depression after their over zealous start had burnt out or pushed out pre their trial period as they didnt sell enough.
Writing team are so on the ball, it is dog eat dog in that environment, you want to be at the top of that sales table and get the cash rewards on offer no matter what you have to do to your rivals to get and stay there.
Even in the incoming calls centre the targets where all about dealing with as many calls as they could per day, fall below a set level and wow... you may have had one call that took all day to sort but that wasnt an excuse, the in the know simply disconnected the call and moved on to the next.. I think we have all encountered that at some time.
flappinfanny
08-11-2016, 00:23
This is EastEnders at its best, story telling, without being sensational, simple story telling. The Lee story line is heartbreaking, raw and uncomfortable to watch. So Lee is in a call centre. I wonder how this is going to pan out? you just want to hug Lee and tell him everything is going to be ok, it won't be this being EastEnders. Danny Boy Hatchard is playing a blinder. He really is. EastEnders are handling the depression story line better than Coronation Street did with Steve.
It is nice to see a different side to Belinda.
This is EastEnders at its best, story telling, without being sensational, simple story telling. The Lee story line is heartbreaking, raw and uncomfortable to watch. So Lee is in a call centre. I wonder how this is going to pan out? you just want to hug Lee and tell him everything is going to be ok, it won't be this being EastEnders. Danny Boy Hatchard is playing a blinder. He really is. EastEnders are handling the depression story line better than Coronation Street did with Steve.
It is nice to see a different side to Belinda.
could lee maybe try to end it all by suicide
This is EastEnders at its best, story telling, without being sensational, simple story telling. The Lee story line is heartbreaking, raw and uncomfortable to watch. So Lee is in a call centre. I wonder how this is going to pan out? you just want to hug Lee and tell him everything is going to be ok, it won't be this being EastEnders. Danny Boy Hatchard is playing a blinder. He really is. EastEnders are handling the depression story line better than Coronation Street did with Steve.
It is nice to see a different side to Belinda.
could lee maybe try to end it all by suicide
tammyy2j
08-11-2016, 12:21
could lee maybe try to end it all by suicide
It would be brave of the show to have a character especially a young character doing this, I hope not but he needs help and how can his family or Whitney not see it :angry:
I hope Johnny can help him soon
Does all the Carter family really think Lee with no qualifications only the army and as a plumber and fish stall seller can get a high flying executive selling job
flappinfanny
08-11-2016, 23:22
The Fox scenes were the highlight for me tonight, Kim talking sense, would you Adam and Eve it? Diane Parish owned those scenes tonight. I wasn't convinced by the Masood/Belinda scenes but did like the Duff Duff and those shoes, SJP would be proud of those. :D
flappinfanny
10-11-2016, 23:25
Oh my word, I did not like that Duff Duff. Jay. :(
Had to smile at Patrick and Denise when they were eating Libby's meat free bacon. :D
Not such a good episode tonight, it didn't work as well, the script was quite poor , Whitney was a little jarring and annoying, although the scenes with Kathy and Libby were good. The auditions for the Talent/Christmas show were a bit naff and why would Casandra (that landlady cow from the Feathers) be running the auditions?
bye bye bels
jay came good for william but still in huge drug debt
bye bye bels
jay came good for william but still in huge drug debt
flappinfanny
12-11-2016, 17:59
So Belinda has gone. Shame, didn't see that one coming. The scenes with Martin and Belinda were very touching, James Bye has really settled into the role now and made it his own. I just love Will, he has to be one of the best child actors about and not a brat like most of the kids on Emmerdale. His face says more than a thousand words.
I hope Casandra isn't going to be in the show long term, she is a bit ott for me in a Corrie sort of way. Are we going to get to see Zainab, I do hope so. Glad Jay bought the rings back, it isn't going to end well is it?
I don't think we are going to see Zainab unfortunately :(
pretty dumb exit for mas chasing after zainab whose new hubby has left her, why bring him back from travelling just so for quick bonk with bels
could lee maybe try to end it all by suicide
I hope not, for the reason that suicide isn't done very often in soaps - because it can be catching. There'll be people watching this storyline and identifying with Lee's despair, and if he ends it all (or tries to) then it might inspire some of them to do the same.
Even showing the awful consequences for his family wouldn't be enough, because people who are that low truly believe their own loved ones would be better off without them.
if only tptb who got cora her flat could get lee and whitney a flat
why is cassandra running christmas play is that not dot's job and is her pub near the square to be so involved
if only tptb who got cora her flat could get lee and whitney a flat
why is cassandra running christmas play is that not dot's job and is her pub near the square to be so involved
Rice Christie
14-11-2016, 23:14
Jane & Masood scene was very touching.
Roxy is more tragic than Ronnie now.
Poor Jay & Lee. Libby and Vincent had some good banter.
flappinfanny
15-11-2016, 00:05
Praise the Lord Jane can walk. Nice scenes with Masood and Jane. The Billy and Jay scenes are bit repetitive. How many times is Billy going to say he's done with Jay? 221? Poor Lee, there seems to be no way out for him. :(
Loved the scenes with Ronnie, Roxy, Jack and the kids. MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O. :D
tammyy2j
15-11-2016, 11:49
I thought Roxy had her own flat, when did she and Jay move back in with Phil?
Roxy gave up the flat when she was gonna leave, a while back. And Jay moved back in, when Pam found him homeless, Ben made him move back in.
tammyy2j
15-11-2016, 14:58
Did Zainab not want Kamil before that now she does want him :searchme: this is confusing
She wanted him at the wedding, but mas decided not to send him I think. He fed up of zainab expecting him to send kamil, anytime she said.
strange friendship abi and her gay ex mother
phil needs his tan topped up and wherever he was, looks to have ate a few extra pies :p
Lee is just digging himself a huge hole and cant see a way out, his wife living in cloud cookoo land is making sure he cant get out. Lees only hope is that Johnny narks on him to the family about the loan.
Nice to see Pikey back (oh that dosent sound PC) :cartman:
Jay owing a dealer a grand, the dealer threatens to hurt a child and his solution was to run away, I hope the rozzers throw the book at him.
flappinfanny
15-11-2016, 23:26
Whitney pipe down, be grateful for a cardboard box love, London prices and all that jazz. Nice to see Ian (don't tell him Pike) Lavender again. Nice mention of Pauline, had to smile at his line to Kathy about being dead. Ian Lavender is brilliant. Looking forward to his scenes with Nu Martin.
tammyy2j
16-11-2016, 12:39
She wanted him at the wedding, but mas decided not to send him I think. He fed up of zainab expecting him to send kamil, anytime she said.
Zainab took Kamil when she left :searchme: I also thought Kamil went to her wedding
Carmel needs to get over Masood and move on
I'm not 100% sure, you could be right.
so was it dennis who stabbed his classmate or has it nothing to do with him just sharon rushing off to collect him
Just outside the school. So I would imagine they sent everyone home, so not to traumatise the children.
so was it dennis who stabbed his classmate or has it nothing to do with him just sharon rushing off to collect him :eek: Stabbing on school premises must be a new one -- very daring from EE -- missed it :( Wished there was an omnibus again so you can view missed episodes :angry:
:eek: Stabbing on school premises must be a new one -- very daring from EE -- missed it :( Wished there was an omnibus again so you can view missed episodes :angry:
nothing was shown only sharon saying she off to collect denny as stabbing at school
:eek: Stabbing on school premises must be a new one -- very daring from EE -- missed it :( Wished there was an omnibus again so you can view missed episodes :angry:
nothing was shown only sharon saying she off to collect denny as stabbing at school
:eek: Stabbing on school premises must be a new one -- very daring from EE -- missed it :( Wished there was an omnibus again so you can view missed episodes :angry:
Omnibus is now on W channel
:eek: Stabbing on school premises must be a new one -- very daring from EE -- missed it :( Wished there was an omnibus again so you can view missed episodes :angry:
Omnibus is now on W channel
black cab leaving exit for mas
oh naughty lee stealing charity collection
black cab leaving exit for mas
oh naughty lee stealing charity collection
Im all sorts of confused.
Lee had an out, but he back tracked, at this point in time all he owes is 3 grand, where is he going to get the deposit from now ? Also where was Johnny?
oh it was Julias theme music for Maz before the full EE theme kicked in at the end.. ive tried to explain this EE leaving tradition of characters theme thing to the land lady but she hasnt grasped it yet.. I will keep trying.
flappinfanny
18-11-2016, 00:34
I love it when EastEnders remembers its past and gets it right. The Masood scenes were very moving especially with Kush and Mas. As always Diane Parish was bang on the money and I thought the scenes with Jane were also good. Kamil just stole the end scene in the black cab. As for Lee, it is almost too painful to watch now.
Rear window
18-11-2016, 11:21
:eek: Stabbing on school premises must be a new one -- very daring from EE -- missed it :( Wished there was an omnibus again so you can view missed episodes :angry:
I did wonder if it's going to be a boy that looks like Denny and it being related to Jay's drug dealer.
But anyway: Lee's an idiot. Stealing from his family - first the bracelet and now the charity money. Has he counted it to know there's enough money?
Cost of housing is a really useful topic to highlight but I don't think there's anything good at the end of this one for Lee as a character.
There were some lovely scenes with Mas and various though.
parkerman
18-11-2016, 14:44
I thought the scenes with Jane were also good.
Was she arrested by the police then? That would be the only good scene I could think of with Jane.....
Rear window
18-11-2016, 14:48
Was she arrested by the police then? That would be the only good scene I could think of with Jane.....
He said something like:
Be happy. You of all people deserve to be happy.
I nearly had hysterics laughing at that bit. And she said someone needs to keep Ian out of trouble.
Yes their role in the cover up of Lucy's death is all but smoothed over, the plaster is set, the paint is going on and soon a picture will be hung on it.
does shirley ever discover buster was giving his fish to kathy
does shirley ever discover buster was giving his fish to kathy Was more than fish he gave her :p
Was more than fish he gave her :p
true yes but when will shirley find out he slipped her his eel
Was more than fish he gave her :p
true yes but when will shirley find out he slipped her his eel
But anyway: Lee's an idiot. Stealing from his family - first the bracelet and now the charity money. Has he counted it to know there's enough money?
He's depressed and not thinking straight. His self-esteem is zero so he believes that he's not good enough for Whitney. He's therefore acting out of character to try and prove to himself he can make her happy. He'd never steal (especially from his mum) if he was well.
so no one in pub saw lee take charity pot and now he has it upstairs
flappinfanny
20-11-2016, 15:55
Was she arrested by the police then? That would be the only good scene I could think of with Jane.....
:rotfl:
flappinfanny
20-11-2016, 16:20
I must admit I did miss my Friday installment of EastEnders. :crying:
tammyy2j
20-11-2016, 20:39
does shirley ever discover buster was giving his fish to kathy
Who knows this, only Phil and Mick is it?
I know Jane suspected
flappinfanny
22-11-2016, 00:51
Line of the night goes to Donna: "if he gets any more yellow he will turn into a minion." :rotfl:
flappinfanny
23-11-2016, 00:43
Steve McFadden is really playing this well, they have made him look ill. The scenes with Billy and Phil were good.
The audition scenes with( Casandra) Geraldine were very Corrie which is not a compliment. Its bad enough having amateur hour in Coronation Street without it being hammed up in EastEnders. It does not suit the show.
For me the whole epp was amateurish, contrived and wooden, well apart from Billy and Phils scenes.
Story line wise, Lee isnt a strong enough actor to convey the hole he is in, how he has a deluded wife who cant understand that it isnt sex that is the problem, its just a symptom of depression. The deep chasem Lee cant see any way out of. Then he has a brother who knows he is lying about money yet hasnt stepped in at any point to help other than cause more stress with his threats of outing his loan details pre the wedding.
The panto thing is just ridiculous, but worth it to see Pikey again. "dont tell him your name Pike"
Mo Mouse
23-11-2016, 17:12
Have to agree about Pike. Great to see him again and without his scarf.
Have to agree about Pike. Great to see him again and without his scarf.
Oh yeah the scarf :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
flappinfanny
25-11-2016, 01:18
The opening part of the episode was too Hollyoaks for me. It doesn't suit EastEnders. The music was a little too loud also drowning out some of the dialogue. The episode did feel a little odd to be fair.
I thought the music was ok at the start, but way too much through the episode.
Lucky Dot if its age related macular degeneration, they can treat that now.. although if it turns out to be wet she needs treatment now.
Took me two months to get an appointment with a specialist but then I have inherited macular degeneration which is un treatable atm.
Lee just needs to report this bullying in the work place, it maybe make him unpopular with the management but they would be scared to sack him if thats made formal, The company has a duty of care for its employees.
Rear window
26-11-2016, 11:10
Lee just needs to report this bullying in the work place, it maybe make him unpopular with the management but they would be scared to sack him if thats made formal, The company has a duty of care for its employees.
I hope they do deal with it.
Surprised Lee has not given him a slap. I too would hope reporting the bullying would resolve the issue , but I don't think that particular departmental manager is bothered, even to the point of being part of the problem. Lee certainly needs to talk to someone . I've never worked in a call centre ,the pressure must be extreme , in Lee's state of mind could push him over the edge, must be getting close.:(
Surprised Lee has not given him a slap. I too would hope reporting the bullying would resolve the issue , but I don't think that particular departmental manager is bothered, even to the point of being part of the problem. Lee certainly needs to talk to someone . I've never worked in a call centre ,the pressure must be extreme , in Lee's state of mind could push him over the edge, must be getting close.:(
My son worked in a call centre for a while .. destroyed him as he found it very difficult to try to sell products to people that he knew could not afford it .. luckily he managed to get his dream job in recruiting and is happy there
flappinfanny
26-11-2016, 17:27
Surprised Lee has not given him a slap. I too would hope reporting the bullying would resolve the issue , but I don't think that particular departmental manager is bothered, even to the point of being part of the problem. Lee certainly needs to talk to someone . I've never worked in a call centre ,the pressure must be extreme , in Lee's state of mind could push him over the edge, must be getting close.:(
Yes me too. The Lee who came into the show 18 months ago would have knocked him out.
Yes me too. The Lee who came into the show 18 months ago would have knocked him out.
yes army lee and bit of jack the lad lee would have
you would need the gift of the gab selling in a call centre
whitney is also a major head wrecker for lee
Yes me too. The Lee who came into the show 18 months ago would have knocked him out.
yes army lee and bit of jack the lad lee would have
you would need the gift of the gab selling in a call centre
whitney is also a major head wrecker for lee
yes army lee and bit of jack the lad lee would have
you would need the gift of the gab selling in a call centre
whitney is also a major head wrecker for lee
That is down to Lee though .. should have been honest from the start ...
I managed a large call centre for a well known telephone company, but we dealt with incoming business callers, thats quite fun if you know your stuff. The staff were highly trained and although taught to up sell and always be closing there were no targets to earn your wage it was set regulated pay. \the staff were just slightly lower paid that a first line manager.
Then they started new part of the centre cold calling, they were payed considerable less, given basic training and given a script to follow, they would all start the job full of get em enthusiasms and burn out very quickly and normaly before even their trial period ended so the company would recruit more. Now thats the worst kind of call centre and I was happy that end didnt have anything to do with me although I was offered a promotion to run it, the lady that did take it on couldnt reach her targets and was sideways moved to a project which is the step before you leave as thats the end of your career.
Also the poor saps in the out going call centre where persuaded not to join the union, bad bad move.
I have sympathy for both Whitney and Lee. They're both victims of Lee's depression. Whitney appears to be being pushy, but she believes she's pushing in a direction Lee is more than happy to travel. Lee should have been honest about his feelings, but it's incredibly difficult to do that when suffering mental illness, especially if you have all kinds of expectations from loved ones weighing you down. It's especially difficult for young men like Lee who believe feeling depressed is a weakness and that they can snap themselves out of it.
If I was going to blame anyone for not noticing his deterioration and for piling on the pressure it'd be Mick and Linda. They've known Lee for 24 years and and have much more life experience than Whitney. However, I think it's all too easy to apportion blame when you're on the outside looking in and can see the bigger picture.
I'm embarrased to admit that I've been in a position where I didn't notice the signs in someone close to me despite being a lifelong sufferer myself. :o
i find it hard to muster any care for lee and whitney either way maybe that's why i am finding the show dull and uninteresting currently as no storyline drawing me in
I'm embarrased to admit that I've been in a position where I didn't notice the signs in someone close to me despite being a lifelong sufferer myself. :o
Ah but thats the whole problem with mental illness, its not like a broken arm or leg, its hidden and even when its diagnosed some coves pops along and says "oh pull yourself together", blah blah blah. Mood swings in sufferers can really con on lookers, one moment they can be laughing along with the fun but then in the loo crying their heart out unseen.
Lee is backing himself deeper into a hole, he cant see himself getting out of it, the only person who has an inkling how to save him is Johnny, but all he has done so far is drive Lee deeper into the pit of despair.
Its a good story line and depressing as it may be its on the money so far.
jack selling roxy house how???
jack selling roxy house how???
He couldn't without her permission but she's given it now.
When did he become so full of himself? :thumbsdow
flappinfanny
29-11-2016, 00:01
I am really liking Derek. I wish he was returning full time. It was a bit odd having carols playing out late in the evening and it's 28th November?
I enjoyed the Dot Scenes, I also liked the Ronnie/Roxy/Jack scenes. I do feel sorry for Roxy. Pleased Tina has morals and told Kathy about trifle head Babe.
I am really liking Derek. I wish he was returning full time. It was a bit odd having carols playing out late in the evening and it's 28th November?
I enjoyed the Dot Scenes, I also liked the Ronnie/Roxy/Jack scenes. I do feel sorry for Roxy. Pleased Tina has morals and told Kathy about trifle head Babe.
I didnt hear whiny Kathy thank Tina and it is the employers place to train their staff, it gets me so cross when someone tells you you should of known that its common sense, I mean I didnt know you cant lean a dusty monitor with glugs of good soapy water and a sponge. Anyway I bet Ian sacks her because dimbo Kath tells it wrong.
I suppose if Roxy isnt paying towards the mortgage its fair comment to say lets sell up then, personaly I would get in lodgers to pay it. I lump sum in back earns virtually nowt and is eaten up quickly by renting.
tammyy2j
29-11-2016, 14:43
Roxy said she wanted to keep the house to leave Amy if something ever happened, now why would she say that is she clairvoyant does she know the future :p :searchme:
He couldn't without her permission but she's given it now.
When did he become so full of himself? :thumbsdow
he only asked permission as ronnie made him when roxy found out, he had already valuation done
He couldn't without her permission but she's given it now.
When did he become so full of himself? :thumbsdow
he only asked permission as ronnie made him when roxy found out, he had already valuation done
he only asked permission as ronnie made him when roxy found out, he had already valuation done
He's become so arrogant that I think he just expected Ronnie to fall into line with him and persuade Roxy to sell up.
Get a prenup Ronnie, its now kinda legal here, cause Jack is liquefying all your assets.
The show really needs to clarify what AMD Dot has wet or dry, wet being the one that needs urgent treatment, wheres Dr Leg when you need him?
You can just sense the groans when the cast read they are doing more Pantomime scenes, Im shocked Tommy Allthrope isnt staring.
It's really good to hear some serious introspection from Phil as he goes through the process to get on the transplant list. I hope the storyline keeps feeling as realistic, thoroughly researched and unsensational as it does at the moment.
flappinfanny
29-11-2016, 23:24
It's really good to hear some serious introspection from Phil as he goes through the process to get on the transplant list. I hope the storyline keeps feeling as realistic, thoroughly researched and unsensational as it does at the moment.
I agree Dazzle, but sadly we might be in a minority. :(
flappinfanny
29-11-2016, 23:29
SOC has a magic gift, he can turn unlikable characters almost into likeable characters. The writing has improved ten fold. Jane was almost likeable tonight. The Jane and Stacey scenes were very good.
The orange wallpaper in Pat's house was bit :sick: I just didn't want them to change Pats house, with those masks on the wall, a bit like Hilda's house and those ducks. :(
The panto story line sucks, but if it means we get to see more of Ian Lavender than its a price worth paying. A lovely mention of Angie tonight and the scenes with Sharon and Phil were tonight's highlight for me.
I agree Dazzle, but sadly we might be in a minority. :(
Yes, many EE fans elsewhere on the internet are bemoaning SOC and wishing for DTC back - despite baying for the latter's blood when he was still in charge. :eek:
From what I've heard though the ratings are slightly up on this time last year, so SOC is doing fine.
SOC has a magic gift, he can turn unlikable characters almost into likeable characters. The writing has improved ten fold. Jane was almost likeable tonight. The Jane and Stacey scenes were very good.
The orange wallpaper in Pat's house was bit :sick: I just didn't want them to change Pats house, with those masks on the wall, a bit like Hilda's house and those ducks. :(
The panto story line sucks, but if it means we get to see more of Ian Lavender than its a price worth paying. A lovely mention of Angie tonight and the scenes with Sharon and Phil were tonight's highlight for me.
Anita Dobson/May was in Doctors today playing a women who snatched a baby 40 years ago.
flappinfanny
01-12-2016, 23:08
Stacey is such a likeable character, I couldn't imagine the square without her now. Donna was so funny tonight talking about Jacks bits and winding Roxy up. Who says EastEnders can't do comedy.
The Bex/Shakil scenes let the episode down, a good idea but just didn't quite work. The scripts were good, it was the acting by both that was not up to scratch.
stacey needs to stay away from jane, who cares if her and ian are getting it on, they should be behind bars
rotfl at donna talking about jack
stacey needs to stay away from jane, who cares if her and ian are getting it on, they should be behind bars
rotfl at donna talking about jack
The Bex/Shakil scenes let the episode down, a good idea but just didn't quite work. The scripts were good, it was the acting by both that was not up to scratch.
I think Bex is OK but Shakil is unconvincing. Also, their lack of chemistry makes it hard to understand why a strong and intelligent girl like Bex would go against all her instincts and send the photos. I think it's a good storyline to tell though, and I was cringing when she was about to take the selfie, so it's having an effect on me. Plus, the advice she received from Tina was well done.
I agree with you and lizann about Donna and her probing questions to Roxy about Jack's size. It was a scream! :lol:
stacey needs to stay away from jane, who cares if her and ian are getting it on, they should be behind bars
rotfl at donna talking about jack
So agree, the lady wouldnt be in a wheel chair if she hadnt of covered up the trail of her murderous adopted son and I still hope Max comes back to make them all suffer more, but thats where the story line breaks down again, Stacy would always be on Maxs side not the Beales.
Bex & ShAK.. why do EE keep casting talentless teens to do story lines like this? Cant they just leave that to Hollyoaks?
I couldnt read the clip, how much was the house in the paper up for?
I couldnt read the clip, how much was the house in the paper up for?
The house price in the paper was very unclear even though I pressed pause to have a good look. I think it was half a million.
Oh lee, what have you done?!
Oh lee, what have you done?!
dont worry max will be blamed
Oh lee, what have you done?!
dont worry max will be blamed
dont worry max will be blamed
Of course lol.
dont worry max will be blamed
Of course lol.
Well hopefully the social media moaners won't be complaining that nothing happened on tonight's EE! The robbery was totally unexpected and very shocking - especially when baby Ollie was taken. :eek:
Oh lee, what have you done?!
It was certainly heavily hinted that he's up to his neck in the robbery but I just can't believe he'd put his family at risk. There must be more to it - at least I hope so!
flappinfanny
03-12-2016, 01:07
That episode has really effected me, that end segment was a shock. That was really hard hitting, especially when they grabbed Ollie, it was very upsetting. That is one of the best episodes of EastEnders I have seen in a long time and all the better for not knowing what was happening.
It had everything, good interaction with the characters, some lovely comedy, almost classic EastEnders we have come to love and thought had gone. As Dazzle has said, perhaps this will shut up the Twitter brigade on saying EastEnders is boring. Full marks to SOC and a great script from Daran Little.
Like the old coot that I am I dozzed off near the end, will have to r watch it.
Rear window
03-12-2016, 10:15
Oh my goodness that was traumatic and exciting and horrid! Totally unexpected... seeing the money go in a bag and lee lurking I did wonder how he'd possibly get away with stealing it again.
Horrid though! Utterly horrid!
Do they not have an alarm by the till? Maybe that was what Mick wanted Lee to do .. go show them the till was empty and press the alarm.
idiot selfish cruel lee
kathy another cruel being not even getting a ticket for ben
idiot selfish cruel lee
kathy another cruel being not even getting a ticket for ben
flappinfanny
05-12-2016, 23:43
The Kim scenes in the Vic when she passed her test were funny. I see we have shouty Ben back. Harry Reid had improved recently but those drunken scenes were awful and painful to watch. I enjoyed the scenes with Ronnie and Roxy and I thought Sam Womack looked lovely tonight.
There is no way back for Lee now. Sadly I have lost any sympathy for him now.
tammyy2j
06-12-2016, 12:36
Kathy buys panto musical tickets for all Martin and Ian's families but not for her gay son Ben, even if he did not want to go she could still have got him a ticket, her return has really been one big epic failure
tammyy2j
06-12-2016, 15:42
SOC has a magic gift, he can turn unlikable characters almost into likeable characters. The writing has improved ten fold. Jane was almost likeable tonight. The Jane and Stacey scenes were very good.
The orange wallpaper in Pat's house was bit :sick: I just didn't want them to change Pats house, with those masks on the wall, a bit like Hilda's house and those ducks. :(
The panto story line sucks, but if it means we get to see more of Ian Lavender than its a price worth paying. A lovely mention of Angie tonight and the scenes with Sharon and Phil were tonight's highlight for me.
I would love to see at least just once scene of Stacey confronting Ian and Jane about letting Max stay in jail knowing he was innocent, asking them why, we know Lauren or Abi don't care, but she was on his side and now we have her being a good friend to Jane :thumbsdow
roxy is over her men fear after dean
flappinfanny
06-12-2016, 23:18
roxy is over her men fear after dean
Indeed. :(
flappinfanny
06-12-2016, 23:18
Denise shone in tonight's episode for me. Jacks got a bit of a nerve with his track record. The scene with Dennis and Phil was very good and the scenes with Stacey and Jane seem very natural. Why was Martin not keen on seeing Derek? All, in all a good episode.
parkerman
06-12-2016, 23:34
Why was Martin not keen on seeing Derek?
No idea why that should be. Wasn't Derek rather good to Martin? He helped out on the stall, taught him to drive, and even took the blame when Martin was caught growing cannabis as I recall.
There is no way back for Lee now. Sadly I have lost any sympathy for him now.
I'm finding it hard to know how to feel about Lee's part in the robbery.
We've seen that he can't stand up to the bullies at work because he's a nervous wreck. The one who's wallet got left behind initially befriended him, so I'm wondering if perhaps the Vic fundraiser was mentioned during a conversation and Lee jokingly suggested they rob the place - and the rest of them then manipulated and/or browbeat him into agreeing to the robbery. It seems they promised him that nobody would be hurt or threatened, and he believed them because it was easier to do so (plus there's no doubt he badly wanted the money). I'm pretty sure though that he didn't cold-bloodedly plan the heist of his family home.
On the other hand, It was a dreadful thing to allow to happen to his family. He could have given up his job and never had to have faced the bullies again and then told Mick what they were planning. Depression makes you want to curl up into a ball and die, and also impairs your judgement, but it doesn't take away your moral compass and it doesn't turn you into a criminal (though of course desperate people are more likely to do desperate things).
I want to believe that Lee has a valid explanation of why he allowed it to happen... :(
All Lee can do now is go to the Police and fess up. Drop the others in it and hope eventually his family will forgive him.
Of course he wont, the bullies will extort more off him and simpering wife will keep spending the money in her aim for the perfect wedding.
I dont read spoilers but this can only end one way now and its christmas, Eastenders love misery story lines at Crimbo season.
tammyy2j
07-12-2016, 11:17
Does Dennis know his dad died from being stabbed and that Phil was involved?
Does Dennis know his dad died from being stabbed and that Phil was involved?
Yes to the first, I doubt it to the second.
Does Dennis know his dad died from being stabbed and that Phil was involved? Derek Branning told him the truth
Derek Branning told him the truth
Are you saying that Derek told Dennis that Phil played a part in his father's death? :eek: I can't believe Dennis would accept Phil as his stepfather if that were the case!
tammyy2j
07-12-2016, 12:47
Derek Branning told him the truth
How did Derek know, did Kat tell him on one of their trysts :p
Rear window
07-12-2016, 19:04
Someone is having fun with the make up for Phil. They're slowly adding all the different crayolas!
I really dislike that we had a whole episode based around slut shaming Roxy which has caused her to feel she needs to take a step back from her own child. Her sexual behaviour can be self-destructive but it's no worse than many in the square - including her hypocritical accusers Jack, Kush and Martin. Even Ronnie didn't stick up for her sister about it!
Roxy's never been the best of mothers, but she's single and doesn't even live with her daughter so having a one night stand is nobody else's business (and it's certainly not her fault he lied about being married and his wife kicked him out! :angry:)
flappinfanny
09-12-2016, 23:14
How dare Kush be so judge mental with Roxy, he is hardly a good role model. Its okay for a man to be a tart but not a woman. Kush and Martin at times are such .........
The Denise and Patrick scenes were so moving and very sad and as for Ian and Stacey. Comedy gold.
The Denise and Patrick scenes were so moving and very sad and as for Ian and Stacey. Comedy gold.
Patrick was great tonight with both Denise and Dot. I was very relieved we didn't have to wait to find out if Dot would have the eye treatment.
I suppose there's little chance that Denise will go through with the adoption what with the child being a Mitchell.
So Dot had wet maculars, its only very recently they have learnt to tackle that, if un diagnosed and untreated it will totally destroy the centre part of your vision,mines only partially gone and thats bad enough. Im glad that cleared that story line up.
My friends just had treatment for it. She said it was definitely worth having done .
flappinfanny
10-12-2016, 23:35
I enjoyed the Dot/Patrick scenes. The Beale scenes tonight were enjoyable with Jane and Ian and I never thought I would say that. Don't care too much about the Shaki and Bexs storyline. Perhaps if they had better actors playing the roles I would.
All in all I enjoyed the episode, some real heart warming scenes without it being too sugary.
I think EastEnders is being made for a different audience now and I can honestly say I am enjoying the show much more under SOC than I did under DTC.
flappinfanny
12-12-2016, 23:35
The community feel of EastEnders is coming across nicely, something lacking in both Emmerdale and Coronation Street. Soc's influences from the Archers rubbing off in Walford.
Really feel for Dot, sad times. Donna is such a brilliant character now and works so well with Roxy.
Donna is such a brilliant character now and works so well with Roxy.
I agree, but her advice to Roxy tonight was terrible! :eek: The latter doesn't have a problem with Amy - in fact there's little doubt she loves her: Roxy's problem is with herself. I thought Donna was going to suggest therapy not adoption! Since Amy already lives with Ronnie and Jack, the only difference adoption would make would be to make the child feel even more rejected. :wall:
Ronnie and Jack aren't exactly parents of year anyway despite playing happy families at the moment. She barely looked at Matthew for the first year of his life, and he saw very little of Amy for years and only just met Richard for the first time! :wall:
The community centre scenes were really nice and atmospheric.
Really disappointing that Dot couldn't face her eye appointment. :(
I agree, but her advice to Roxy tonight was terrible! :eek: The latter doesn't have a problem with Amy - in fact there's little doubt she loves her: Roxy's problem is with herself. I thought Donna was going to suggest therapy not adoption! Since Amy already lives with Ronnie and Jack, the only difference adoption would make would be to make the child feel even more rejected. :wall:
Ronnie and Jack aren't exactly parents of year anyway despite playing happy families at the moment. She barely looked at Matthew for the first year of his life, and he saw very little of Amy for years and only just met Richard for the first time! :wall:
The community centre scenes were really nice and atmospheric.
Really disappointing that Dot couldn't face her eye appointment. :(
She had no problem reading the letter about the closure of the launderette which confused me .. but that is not a difficult thing to do :D
She had no problem reading the letter about the closure of the launderette which confused me .. but that is not a difficult thing to do :D
:D
I noticed that too. Perhaps the hospital sends letters printed in a large font to patients with sight problems?
:D
I noticed that too. Perhaps the hospital sends letters printed in a large font to patients with sight problems?
The hospital might have done indeed but Mr Pappadoppulus (sp) would not do that to inform her that the launderette will close in less than 2 weeks time? Why do they never give realistic notice periods in soapland? :angry:
tammyy2j
13-12-2016, 14:22
I agree, but her advice to Roxy tonight was terrible! :eek: The latter doesn't have a problem with Amy - in fact there's little doubt she loves her: Roxy's problem is with herself. I thought Donna was going to suggest therapy not adoption! Since Amy already lives with Ronnie and Jack, the only difference adoption would make would be to make the child feel even more rejected. :wall:
Ronnie and Jack aren't exactly parents of year anyway despite playing happy families at the moment. She barely looked at Matthew for the first year of his life, and he saw very little of Amy for years and only just met Richard for the first time! :wall:
The community centre scenes were really nice and atmospheric.
Really disappointing that Dot couldn't face her eye appointment. :(
Yes that advice by Donna shocked me since she herself was desperate for her own child :thumbsdow
She had no problem reading the letter about the closure of the launderette which confused me .. but that is not a difficult thing to do :D
" Splashy Switches on bore mode"
Dot only has age related macular degeneration in one eye, the others fine, she just needs treatment asap to keep good vision in the eye with wet maculars. Hence she can read normal print with the good eye.
So Martin cant take the afternoon off from his minimum wage job to watch Lilly .. it just breaks my heart .. not ...but then I dont have one o a soul :cartman::rotfl:
stacey was too nice to beales this is her repayment from Ebenezer ian beale cant wait for max revenge which better be good
flappinfanny
13-12-2016, 23:20
Sharon and Stacey shone in tonight's offering. Carmel is getting on my wick a bit. The Mitchell scenes were good as were scenes with Mick and Jack, although these days there are many times I don't understand what Danny Dyer is saying. I think they let him ad lib here and there. Some of the cockney rhyming slang doesn't make sense.
Carmel is getting on my wick a bit. .
Carmel has always got on my wick a lot, reminds me of a younger version of Peggy Mitchell.
Wait till parkerman finds out that a couple of weeks ago Carmel (carrying the clipboard) told off Winston for exceeding his stall boundary line.
parkerman
14-12-2016, 17:42
Wait till parkerman finds out that a couple of weeks ago Carmel (carrying the clipboard) told off Winston for exceeding his stall boundary line.
What!!!!!!!!! How dare she! :angry:Why didn't anyone tell me about this?
What!!!!!!!!! How dare she! :angry:Why didn't anyone tell me about this?
Did not want to spoil your Advent season :(
What!!!!!!!!! How dare she! :angry:Why didn't anyone tell me about this?
Too shocked for words . Couldn't have had much effect on him , in a later scene he was in the Vic ,having a pint ,laughing and joking with Shrimpy. :)
flappinfanny
15-12-2016, 23:39
Great episode, superb writing, some knock put performances from Steve McFadden and Letitia Dean and a nice supporting cast with Jamie Borthwick and Tilly Keeper. Quality stuff tonight. Can EastEnders keep this up, I doubt it?
Great episode, superb writing, some knock put performances from Steve McFadden and Letitia Dean and a nice supporting cast with Jamie Borthwick and Tilly Keeper. Quality stuff tonight. Can EastEnders keep this up, I doubt it?
Hopefully it'll remain superb quality as long as SOC is given free reign and the BBC don't listen to the vocal minority of moaners who prefer wall to wall sensationalism.
It was heartwarming to see Phil nearly back to his old self (something I never thought I'd say :eek:) and looking forward to Christmas by the end of the episode.
if burglar is not jay or lee maybe roxy or stephen
poor billy he needs to catch a good break, one step up for him and always then a disaster
if burglar is not jay or lee maybe roxy or stephen
poor billy he needs to catch a good break, one step up for him and always then a disaster
flappinfanny
19-12-2016, 01:28
Enjoyed the Chris-tingle service. Sad about Dot. I found the stag amusing with the Christmas trees. You can see what is going to happen with Roxy. :(
is mick setting shrimpy up for the tree theft as max still away :p
Methinks that Monday's sentimental episode oozing with cheese was designed to lull us into a false sense that this year's Christmas in Albert Square is going to be a boring and drama free zone full of love and warmth. :p
Im confused re Dot .. I spent 4 hours today at the eye clinic, where they were calling patients in five at a time to get eye injections re wet age related maculars treatment.. did she go or did she lie that she went.
Additional.. what new eye surgery are they on about. The damage being done to the eye is in the back of it so I cant see how implanting a new lens would work? I mean it probably is correct just poorly described in the narrative.
Stealing the crimbo tree is up there with there with the famous footballer story line in corrie for being naff.
Im confused re Dot .. I spent 4 hours today at the eye clinic, where they were calling patients in five at a time to get eye injections re wet age related maculars treatment.. did she go or did she lie that she went.
Additional.. what new eye surgery are they on about. The damage being done to the eye is in the back of it so I cant see how implanting a new lens would work? I mean it probably is correct just poorly described in the narrative.
Stealing the crimbo tree is up there with there with the famous footballer story line in corrie for being naff.
Dot is lying about getting the injections. I think she bottled the appointment, though she muttered some excuse about it being against God's will. :searchme:
Dot is lying about getting the injections. I think she bottled the appointment, though she muttered some excuse about it being against God's will. :searchme:
Oh ...thats not good.. I must say the representation of her vision also didnt match anything I know, but then unless you have it why would you know. But then Ive had the issue from birth so am used to it and compensate for it where as the likes of Dot are new to it.
flappinfanny
20-12-2016, 07:59
I am one for sticking up for EastEnders and SOC but that epsidoe had more cheese than the deli at Sainsbury's, too much for me. In fact it was pretty awful if truth be told. Bar humbug. Glad there wasn't a duff duff though.
I am one for sticking up for EastEnders and SOC but that epsidoe had more cheese than the deli at Sainsbury's, too much for me. In fact it was pretty awful if truth be told. Bar humbug. Glad there wasn't a duff duff though.
I wouldn't go as far as to say it was awful though it did make me cringe a few times. :D
I don't feel like it should be taken too seriously though. I may be very wrong and the whole of this year's EE Christmas will turn out to be sentimental tosh, but it all felt a bit tongue in cheek to me - as if SOC was poking fun at us viewers. :p
i wanna punch mick he is so grating on me
Well done Stacey, bex will never trust you again.
back to kathy beale, did i miss her divorce and remarry to dead pete
back to kathy beale, did i miss her divorce and remarry to dead pete
She changed her name by deed poll.
SOC's overhaul of Kathy after the mess DTC made of the character is complete. She's back to her old self again working in the cafe and playing an important role in her family and the square.
tammyy2j
20-12-2016, 23:00
I still think Kathy's return has been a let down which is a shame as I liked the character and also Gillian the actress
Shakil looked liked a merry men from Robin Hood :D
The detective ( ex Hollyoaks Rick who played father of Gillian's character Sandy's twin boys) was quick to investigate a stolen Christmas tree maybe he should take over Max's wrongful imprisonment and subsequent cover up, perjury, blackmail, corruption and lies
flappinfanny
20-12-2016, 23:12
I wouldn't go as far as to say it was awful though it did make me cringe a few times. :D
I don't feel like it should be taken too seriously though. I may be very wrong and the whole of this year's EE Christmas will turn out to be sentimental tosh, but it all felt a bit tongue in cheek to me - as if SOC was poking fun at us viewers. :p
It is lulling us into a false sense of loveliness with Val Doonican and Perry Como. Then hopefully we will get lots of doom and gloom on the big day.
flappinfanny
20-12-2016, 23:12
I enjoyed tonight's episode. Linda was very funny tonight in the rehearsal scenes. I am going to miss Kelly Bright when she leaves. I like how they are having Denny fancying Louise. Martins's reaction to what happened to Bex was very natural. The only downside was Martin not knocking out that little git Shakil. I couldn't care less what Kathy calls herself. You are supposed to dead love. June Brown is just breaking my heart.
tammyy2j
20-12-2016, 23:15
I thought Roxy's returned to be with Amy :searchme:
flappinfanny
20-12-2016, 23:24
EastEnders provided some much needed light relief after the dramatic and harrowing Emmerdale tonight. EastEnders, light relief in the same sentence, who would have thought that? :rotfl:
what light relief or is my funny bone off ????
emmerdale is miles ahead of all other soaps for me
what light relief or is my funny bone off ????
emmerdale is miles ahead of all other soaps for me
flappinfanny
21-12-2016, 23:23
what light relief or is my funny bone off ????
emmerdale is miles ahead of all other soaps for me
Yes it must be, turn it on. :D
I don't disagree with you reference the quality of Emmerdale, when Emmerdale get it right they are simply the best, but EastEnders under SOC has had many lighter scenes recently. I am not saying all have worked and are funny, but there is certainly a change of direction with the show, much to the annoyance of the Twitter brigade.
The lighter scenes for me work well, seem natural and not as forced like Coronation Street. I can see alot of the work SOC did on the Archers creeping into EastEnders with things like the Church services, the Christmas show, the community feel of EastEnders which is much more visible than in Emmerdale or Coronation Street.
It is a myth that EastEnders is all doom and gloom, I have never bought into that. I am enjoying the mundane in EastEnders. However many fans do not like this new style for the show. I think EastEnders is now being made for a different audience and is much nearer to the show that was created by Julia and Tony.
black cat a sign of bad luck and death so misery as usual in ee for crimbo big emphasis on phil dying when it will be his cousins who do
only bright star is max return how can soc write his retribution
black cat a sign of bad luck and death so misery as usual in ee for crimbo big emphasis on phil dying when it will be his cousins who do
only bright star is max return how can soc write his retribution
I want the little black cat to find a home for Christmas. Perhaps Dot (who seemed to soften slightly towards it) will adopt it and bring a little love into both their lives? http://www.city-data.com/forum/pictures/t/59/fba33245bcb33baf3cd5f333da038478_59495.gif?dl=1280 434485
I'll be a lot more upset if the cat dies than the other Christmas deaths that have been mooted. :(
black cat a sign of bad luck and death so misery as usual in ee for crimbo big emphasis on phil dying when it will be his cousins who do
only bright star is max return how can soc write his retribution
I wish people would stop believing that, black and black/white cats are the most difficult to re-home because of that :crying: Not seen EE for a few days ... better not watch it until fate of cat has been revealed, it would definitely spoil my Christmas if it gets killed and yes, I know it would not be for real but knowing that reality is very close to how this storyline might go, it would serve as reminder :(
The animal killer Abi lives there... the kitty is doomed.
Ironically i spent the am in the eye hospital this week, they were dealing with batches of 5 people having treatment for wet maculars Dot could have come with me.
It is lulling us into a false sense of loveliness with Val Doonican and Perry Como. Then hopefully we will get lots of doom and gloom on the big day.
Was there enough doom and gloom for you in Thursday's downbeat episode? :p
We had Phil giving up on life and secretly planning his funeral, Lee desperately trying to throw good money after bad, and Patrick who it seems has nothing to look forward to without the play. The whole tone of the episode was rather dark despite the play shenanigans (which seemed designed more to show the group up as losers than be funny) and the surreal marketplace sing along.
I'm going away to have a cry now... :crying:
flappinfanny
22-12-2016, 23:13
I quite like what they are doing with Mick at present. Some nice comedy touches. I wonder how they write Linda out?
flappinfanny
22-12-2016, 23:13
I enjoyed the play tonight, so true to am dram life. Donna is becoming one of my favourite characters.
flappinfanny
22-12-2016, 23:17
was there enough doom and gloom for you in thursday's downbeat episode? :p
:cheer::D:lol:
dr dot and her laundrette therapy confession room:p
i want derek to stay
dr dot and her laundrette therapy confession room:p
i want derek to stay
tammyy2j
24-12-2016, 20:08
I liked the Dot and Phil scene, they should have gone to the play together
Where is Kim?
Abi was very keen to help with Mick's crotch :p
tammyy2j
24-12-2016, 20:59
Why is new Michelle back now, is her son returning again?
I wonder will Max deliver a turkey to Stacey :p
tammyy2j
24-12-2016, 20:59
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shrimpy spoke winston has to be next :p
new chelle looks young, a new love for max
shrimpy spoke winston has to be next :p
new chelle looks young, a new love for max
feck.. so its not old Michelle then (Susan Tully) visuals are lost on us blindies .. for a horrible moment I thought it was her daughter back (Vicky) :crying:
This must have been filmed when Kim was expected to last more than one week on Strickly :ninja::D
Anyway this is all a filler for when space monsters invade the square Xmas day snatch a liver from a stranger and stick it in Phil to save him while returning Glen Miller and the crew of the Mary Celeaste.
Personally I will be watching the Muppet Movie on sky cinema.
Such a shame Michelle's reappearance was leaked! :angry:
Poor lonely Dot and her new friend the stray cat reminds me a little of a biographical book written by James Bowen called:
A Street Cat Named Bob and How He Saved My Life
I haven't read it, but I've heard it's extremely heartwarming. The description reads: "The moving, uplifiting true story of an unlikely friendship between a man on the streets and the ginger cat who adopts him and helps him heal his life".
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1250135737?_encoding=UTF8&isInIframe=0&n=266239&ref_=dp_proddesc_0&s=books&showDetailProductDesc=1#product-description_feature_div
I hope the cat brings Dot some happiness - and vice versa.
Max is back tomorrow and Phil's at death's door! :eek:
flappinfanny
24-12-2016, 23:35
I liked the Dot and Phil scene, they should have gone to the play together
Where is Kim?
Abi was very keen to help with Mick's crotch :p
Being booted of Strictly. :D
flappinfanny
24-12-2016, 23:37
I enjoyed the whole epsidoe. Raw emotional scenes with Denise and Phil. My heart just broke for Dot, Lovely touch with Hev.
I love it when EastEnders remember it's rich history, very moving to hear Ethel Lou and Pauline. And what a duff duff.
It would be funny if Michael French returned to EastEnders and had scenes with Jenna Russell. :)
Hearing all those voices from the past was moving, nostalgic - and just a little bit spooky!
I enjoyed the whole epsidoe. Raw emotional scenes with Denise and Phil. My heart just broke for Dot, Lovely touch with Hev.
I love it when EastEnders remember it's rich history, very moving to hear Ethel Lou and Pauline. And what a duff duff.
It would be funny if Michael French returned to EastEnders and had scenes with Jenna Russell. :)
born and bred is that where new chelle looks familiar from
I enjoyed the whole epsidoe. Raw emotional scenes with Denise and Phil. My heart just broke for Dot, Lovely touch with Hev.
I love it when EastEnders remember it's rich history, very moving to hear Ethel Lou and Pauline. And what a duff duff.
It would be funny if Michael French returned to EastEnders and had scenes with Jenna Russell. :)
born and bred is that where new chelle looks familiar from
Rear window
25-12-2016, 00:13
Hearing all those voices from the past was moving, nostalgic - and just a little bit spooky!
was lovely. the tape was very lovely.
flappinfanny
25-12-2016, 17:42
born and bred is that where new chelle looks familiar from
Yes thats right.
http://res.cloudinary.com/uktv/image/upload/v1373452802/yiboxhxbyraolimyfb4g.png
I used to love watching this show on a Sunday evening with my Mum.
is the oven in vic so big to cook all the dinners of the square residents
quite a subdue festive episode
is the oven in vic so big to cook all the dinners of the square residents
quite a subdue festive episode
I thoroughly enjoyed the Christmas Day episode. :cheer:
It wasn't perfect but there was plenty of festive spirit (without descending into mawkishness), Dot with her new washing machine and her pussy (or should that be her little Willie? :D), drama, and intrigue. It ended on an uplifting note with Bring Me Sunshine, and the cliffhangers have me anticipating tomorrow's episode.
Stacey looked a bit too delighted to see Max back if you ask me... :p
parkerman
26-12-2016, 00:08
Stacey looked a bit too delighted to see Max back if you ask me... :p
So Max is back then is he? Has he beat Jane and Ian about the head yet?
tammyy2j
26-12-2016, 00:12
So Max is back then is he? Has he beat Jane and Ian about the head yet?
He first port of call was Stacey :p he gave her a turkey
So Max is back then is he? Has he beat Jane and Ian about the head yet?
He hasn't bumped into them yet but he did send them a gift maliciously signed from Lucy. I think that shows the way his mind is working - which should hopefully please you. :thumbsup:
flappinfanny
26-12-2016, 00:15
I must admit I did enjoy that epiosde tonight. No stunts, nothing too dramatic, just normalish life at Christmas with Families. Dot just keeps breaking my heart. She did have the line of the episode when speaking to Ethel, "Don't go licking yourself in front of the Queen!" :D
Drunken Kathy was funny, I love her rendition of "Bring me sunshine" I am sure Eric and Ern will be looking down with a big grin on their faces. Nice touches with Skype with Linda, Sonia, Kim, Vincent and Pearl.
Daran Little's script was spot on. One of the best episodes of EastEnders I have seen in a long time. Everything just seemed so natural and it worked.
I watched all 3 soaps tonight and EastEnders was head and shoulders above the the other soaps, it really was. For those who don't watch EastEnders you really missed a treat.
tammyy2j
26-12-2016, 00:15
Why did Lauren and Louis not go to Tanya's with Abi for Christmas?
I watched all 3 soaps tonight and EastEnders was head and shoulders above the the other soaps, it really was. For those who don't watch EastEnders you really missed a treat.
I agree (though I only watched two soaps), EE was on top form tonight. It felt old school with pub knees up and everyone coming together to celebrate.
I was frustrated by Michelle's silence about the reason for her return, but of course that was deliberate to crank up the anticipation. :D
tammyy2j
26-12-2016, 00:20
He hasn't bumped into them yet but he did send them a gift maliciously signed from Lucy. I think that shows the way his mind is working - which should hopefully please you. :thumbsup:
Was the pudding from Max?
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