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Dazzle

20-10-2015, 00:57

evil david back now

:thumbsup:

Where was the psycho David we all know and love (well, most of us MM :p) when Callum was alive? The demon could have easily faced down that wannabe ganster. It seems a bit contrived to bring him back now, much as I enjoy watching him in ruthless mode. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

I liked the scenes around the Nazir table and hope they won't be axed by Kate Oates (as many are speculating). I think they're victims of bad writing more than anything.

Andy and Steph should have forbidden Michael and Eileen from having "afternoon delight" anywhere other than his bedroom... :sick:

Does anyone else hate that soap cliché when a character answers an unexpected phone call with "Whoa...calm down. Take a deep breath and start at the beginning"? It's used regularly by all the soaps. :wall:

maidmarian

20-10-2015, 02:26

:love:[QUOTE=Dazzle;833427]:thumbsup:

Where was the psycho David we all know and love (well, most of us MM :p) when Callum was alive? The demon could have easily faced down that wannabe ganster. It seems a bit contrived to bring him back now, much as I enjoy watching him in ruthless mode. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

Im very sorry to say ( almost heartbroken) that
I missed the episode!! So unable to judge if
David has caught up the missing ?15?years between
his performance and the characters age -in
one episode. They made Callum ridiculous -
David no use against a believable gangster.!
Only humiliating his mother- who is now dense-
to facilitate the process!

If I found him evil or pyscho -that would be
different-but to me its repititiously silly
and tantrum-y! And hes usually incompetant!!
Evil.and Pyscho would require more ability
than shown -so far.Tho part of of it must
be the writing- as well.

If he was playing Bobby in EE-might pass muster.
But not as mid 20s ( imo)

As a lot of viewers (seem) to like the character-
the PTB have relied on his little outbursts to
assist viewing stats.Which is fair enough - as that's
a main part of their job!

Im interested in KOs take on several characters
( inc David) to see if its "same old same old" or if
they are developed in some way.Ive no.specific
wishes-just not repititions!

All above personal opinions and we agree to
disagree??I hope!!

swmc66

20-10-2015, 06:44

maidmarian

20-10-2015, 06:53

dupl

maidmarian

20-10-2015, 06:53

swmc66

20-10-2015, 13:26

I think Billy is going to come over and do something when they think there are bad spirits lurking around

sarah c

20-10-2015, 13:44

I think Billy is going to come over and do something when they think there are bad spirits lurking around

like an exorsism?

maidmarian

20-10-2015, 13:52

I think Billy is going to come over and do something when they think there are bad spirits lurking around

If Billy does that -you will have been correct in
your assessment of him in an earlier postas
"a bit pushy for a vicar"- but he Seans partner!!!

The C of E has a low key attitude to evil spirits
and exorcisms . They appoint one exorcist per
diocese and that person should have requests
referred to them..Individual clergy shouldn't
be acting independently. So a bit pushy -as you
say!

Dazzle

21-10-2015, 19:40

Im very sorry to say ( almost heartbroken) that
I missed the episode!! So unable to judge if
David has caught up the missing ?15?years between
his performance and the characters age -in
one episode. They made Callum ridiculous -
David no use against a believable gangster.!
Only humiliating his mother- who is now dense-
to facilitate the process!

If I found him evil or pyscho -that would be
different-but to me its repititiously silly
and tantrum-y! And hes usually incompetant!!
Evil.and Pyscho would require more ability
than shown -so far.Tho part of of it must
be the writing- as well.

Ruthless is probably the best way to describe David in Monday's episodes (and, to be fair, he had good cause to be). I found what he said to Bethany in particular quite shocking! :nono:

I admit to being thoroughly entertained though. :D

I hope you got a chance to catch up afterwards. Corrie episodes are always repeated several times on ITV2. :)

All above personal opinions and we agree to
disagree??I hope!!

Of course! I always agree with you...even when I disagree! :)

On another note, I'll have to get used to seeing your name in bright, juicy pink now you've reached 2,000 posts. Congratulations!!! :clap:

Kim

21-10-2015, 20:00

I can't contain my excitement for the storyline upon Maria's return where she discovers that Luke has been racing behind her back in her absence :thumbsdow

maidmarian

22-10-2015, 04:32

Ruthless is probably the best way to describe David in Monday's episodes (and, to be fair, he had good cause to be). I found what he said to Bethany in particular quite shocking! :nono:

I admit to being thoroughly entertained though. :D

I hope you got a chance to catch up afterwards. Corrie episodes are always repeated several times on ITV2. :)

Of course! I always agree with you...even when I disagree! :)

On another note, I'll have to get used to seeing your name in bright, juicy pink now you've reached 2,000 posts. Congratulations!!! :clap:

Thanks very much for comments !
will try to "catch up"missing episodes in weekend
omnibus!

Thanks for info re change of colour of my forum
name.I had noticed but didnt realise what it
signified!!

Dazzle

22-10-2015, 18:19

I've gone off the Connor family after liking them at first. Their scenes this week have been a bit cringey.

Perdita

22-10-2015, 18:26

I've gone off the Connor family after liking them at first. Their scenes this week have been a bit cringey.

I agree the acting and storyline were a bit "frayed" as the material delivered to Underworld but I still like the Connor family and look forward to more developments at the moment :D

lizann

22-10-2015, 20:02

feeling same about daddy and sister connor now

kylie should hand herself in and confess

lizann

22-10-2015, 20:02

feeling same about daddy and sister connor now

kylie should hand herself in and confess

swmc66

24-10-2015, 17:35

The body will get discovered eventually as corrie needs that future storyline but it will be when they are ready to say goodbye to Kylie

Perdita

24-10-2015, 17:37

The body will get discovered eventually as corrie needs that future storyline but it will be when they are ready to say goodbye to Kylie

I believe you are right, it will lead to Paula´s exit storyline

Perdita

24-10-2015, 17:37

lizann

24-10-2015, 20:54

The body will get discovered eventually as corrie needs that future storyline but it will be when they are ready to say goodbye to Kylie

hope it is soon, cant take much more of kylie and sarah

swmc66

25-10-2015, 18:09

Same here.

Kim

25-10-2015, 22:05

I do not understand why callums mum keeps pitching up at the platts. I would have told her to leave but in a nicer way telling her to go to the police whenever she feels the need. Callum was not a nice man. As for David he needs Sarah to go back as she is a ticking time bomb. As for Bethany she can handle it remember how manipulatove and scheming she was now we have to see her as a kid! This is Kylies fault she should have called the police and ambulance !

I agree, Bethany would handle the truth better than Sarah. I had to laugh when David told Sarah that Bethany would do as she was told because she was a kid. As if, were they talking about the same Bethany there?

David was more hostile than he's ever been before and I think that would have raised even more suspicion. He didn't get particularly nasty until Marion asked Kylie if she was hiding something. Why didn't they just tell her about Denton? It's only a matter of time before he's reported missing and the police are asking more questions. Wouldn't it look suspicious if they then mention Denton having failed to do so before?

Why was Marion asking if Max was about? She's a teacher, she should know better than most he'd be at school. Does she not know Gemma then? She'd know something dodgy was going on if she did - she's heard nothing, not even for her birthday; Gemma had the text purporting to be from Callum.

Perdita

26-10-2015, 05:10

hope it is soon, cant take much more of kylie and sarah

Will be Christmas storyline that will rock the cobbles etc. etc. .... :p

maidmarian

26-10-2015, 05:19

Will be Christmas storyline that will rock the cobbles etc. etc. .... :p

Lets hope it rocks the manhole too!
I know its illogical -but Im not 100%
convinced Callums down there-been.
watching too much Soap!!

tammyy2j

27-10-2015, 00:57

Audrey in demand for hair cutting from Ken and Steve that didn't look any different :p

Dazzle

27-10-2015, 02:16

Nice of Kevin to pay the £300 fine for Tyrone. I felt really sorry for the latter tonight. :(

Good scenes with the older generation: Ken and Audrey getting closer, and Rita, Emily and Norris (along with Mary) entertaining as usual. Poor Mary and her ennui! :D

I wonder if Elle Mulvaney (Amy) plays the violin in real life and they've decided to have Amy emulate her?

parkerman

27-10-2015, 07:53

Audrey in demand for hair cutting from Ken and Steve that didn't look any different :p

I said to my wife that Ken's hair didn't look any different. She said, "Well, she's not a real hairdresser you know, she's just an actor...." er.....:hmm:

Brucie

27-10-2015, 12:18

I said to my wife that Ken's hair didn't look any different. She said, "Well, she's not a real hairdresser you know, she's just an actor...." er.....:hmm:

And she'll never be a successful one if she shuts the salon at 5 O'clock. Not much chance of getting your hair cut after work at Audrey's! Mind you, the working hours in Coronation Street are very odd - hence four chaps who work can go on a Friday afternoon bender starting at 2pm.

Brucie

27-10-2015, 12:18

Rear window

27-10-2015, 13:09

Her character is supposed to be 74 (A little older than she is)
http://coronationstreet.wikia.com/wiki/Audrey_Roberts

There's some very old cast members - 5 of them in the Rovers on last night's episode - him indoors was looking up ages for us - and so we laughed when Mary said about how her friends were all old! We'd noticed too! :)

Rear window

27-10-2015, 13:09

Dazzle

27-10-2015, 22:05

I said to my wife that Ken's hair didn't look any different. She said, "Well, she's not a real hairdresser you know, she's just an actor...." er.....:hmm:

I've always wondered why the actors playing hairdressers in Corrie aren't given some training so they can at least pretend to cut hair realistically. It's also ridiculous that more effort isn't put into giving the actors real haircuts when they're supposed to have had one. It takes me out of a scene when I'm paying more attention to a character's unchanged haircut than what's being said.

...we laughed when Mary said about how her friends were all old! We'd noticed too! :)

It's strange to think that Mary's in the same age group as Steve etc because she fits in so well with the older group.

lizann

27-10-2015, 23:29

mary wants to be mates will cool kids carla and steve and michelle

mariba

28-10-2015, 10:10

Ken's and Audrey's friendship is just fine. I just don't think it's realistic for a 80+ man who has lost the love of his life few months previously to be eyeing on some other woman. And not realistic people of that age having new relationships all the time either. There's so many other things they could write to them.
Roy's and Cathy's friendship/relationship has been written better. I really like that.

I'm sorry, but I just find Tyrone and Fiz so boring...Tyrone has never been my favourite, he's bit simple and not in a good way. He was fine when Jack&Vera were alive, but since they died he should have moved away too. Fiz was better before but her behaviour towards Roy after Hailey died changed my opinion of her forever. And them two together? ..yawn..
Poor Hope and her illness..It's terrible thing to happen in real life and if I see documentary of parents REALLY going through something so devastating I have tears pouring down my cheeks..but this is not real, and especially when characters are so off putting to me like Fiz and Tyrone, I can't really feel anything for them. Just keep knitting and ignore them when they appear on the screen-which is too much now.

(Last time I have cried watching soap, was in Emmerdale when we thought Pete had killed Ross...and before that when Donna died..Emmerdale is really good with emotional stuff..still)

Mary is a great character. Really like her. She's funny. As well as Tim, who they should really keep writing funny lines, he has such a cute silly face when he smiles! :D And Eva-my favorite! Great to see her back-she has the funniest laugh!!! :D

Platts..I couldn't care less if it all comes out and Kylie will go..(Please-Sarah too!!!!) I feel sorry for poor Max and David though..Hopefully David continues to be a good dad for Max and Lily.

sarah c

28-10-2015, 10:55

I have two worries from the week gone/coming:

that it took Beth popping in to notice that Hope needed to see a Dr/Hospital

and if Sophie finds Kevin new business premises? will he and his garage crew have to work 'away' from the cobbles??!! that is unheard of......

maidmarian

28-10-2015, 11:47

sarah c

28-10-2015, 15:16

Yes - that would be a real shock.
I did think Kevin was going to tske over
one of the Arches???

what in Walford??!!! :-)

maidmarian

28-10-2015, 16:18

what in Walford??!!! :-)

No!!:)

Those places at the end of the street.
I tho ught they must be called Arches- because
of shape.!!?
I try to find where I read it!:

maidmarian

28-10-2015, 16:29

No!!:)

Those places at the end of the street.
I tho ught they must be called Arches- because
of shape.!!?
I try to find where I read it!:

Its in.spoilers for 02/11 to. 06/11 page 2 #13

Ist episode Fri 06/11 third para under pic of
Audrey & Rita. Sorry cant do link

"Dev is impressed to hear Kevin.is expanding
his business and has bought one of the Arches"

maidmarian

28-10-2015, 16:29

Dupl

Dazzle

28-10-2015, 16:51

I'm sorry, but I just find Tyrone and Fiz so boring...Tyrone has never been my favourite, he's bit simple and not in a good way. He was fine when Jack&Vera were alive, but since they died he should have moved away too. Fiz was better before but her behaviour towards Roy after Hailey died changed my opinion of her forever. And them two together? ..yawn..
Poor Hope and her illness..It's terrible thing to happen in real life and if I see documentary of parents REALLY going through something so devastating I have tears pouring down my cheeks..but this is not real, and especially when characters are so off putting to me like Fiz and Tyrone, I can't really feel anything for them. Just keep knitting and ignore them when they appear on the screen-which is too much now.

I mostly agree with you. I did feel sorry for Tyrone on Monday but that's the first time I've felt anything for the Hope cancer storyline. It should be really moving, but Fiz and Tyrone (and a little girl who's made no impression on me) aren't capable of doing justice to it in my opinion. It's a shame because it could be compelling in different hands.

maidmarian

28-10-2015, 17:08

I mostly agree with you. I did feel sorry for Tyrone on Monday but that's the first time I've felt anything for the Hope cancer storyline. It should be really moving, but Fiz and Tyrone (and a little girl who's made no impression on me) aren't capable of doing justice to it in my opinion. It's a shame because it could be compelling in different hands.

A small child with a life - threatening illness
is one of lifes biggest tragedies.
It does deserve better treatment.

It seems they get an idea for a story ( which
is a good one) but even IF its well written
and researched they need actors who
can make it believable. Not just whose turn
is it on.The Big Story Rota.

There werent many people with small child-
so it might have been better to leave for
a while.
I know shes not generally popular and
doesnt have a child that age-but I think
Leanne on her own- would have played
part better?!
Tyrone can evoke sympathy at times but
Fiz just irritates - me !

maidmarian

28-10-2015, 17:08

Dupl

Kim

28-10-2015, 19:35

Place your bets: How long before Sophie and Kate end up together?

lizann

28-10-2015, 19:39

do one noz :p

Kim

28-10-2015, 20:09

Nice to see that the hat has closed off potential for a future storyline with Eva by saying that her father walked out when she was five. Stella told Carla that she was raped by a customer of one of her old pubs. It was never stated whether or not he was Eva's biological father.

... What am I talking about, they could just retcon it out of existence later like they did with Max's adoption.

Snagglepus

28-10-2015, 20:16

Place your bets: How long before Sophie and Kate end up together?

Yes I have noticed the quota has been down recently, 3 homosexuals and only 1 lesbian.

Snagglepus

28-10-2015, 20:16

Dupl.

LollyCarpenter

29-10-2015, 04:26

A small child with a life - threatening illness
is one of lifes biggest tragedies.
It does deserve better treatment.

It seems they get an idea for a story ( which
is a good one) but even IF its well written
and researched they need actors who
can make it believable. Not just whose turn
is it on.The Big Story Rota.

There werent many people with small child-
so it might have been better to leave for
a while.
I know shes not generally popular and
doesnt have a child that age-but I think
Leanne on her own- would have played
part better?!
Tyrone can evoke sympathy at times but
Fiz just irritates - me !

I've always loved Tyrone, he's just so cuddly. :p And I feel sorry for him because he's trying hard to support Fiz and Hope and work at the garage not even allowing himself a proper break. Fiz's not always my favourite and the little girl who plays Hope is sweet. It's sad when a little one gets ill but it's been hard to really get involved in this storyline so far.

mariba

29-10-2015, 14:53

Tyrone cuddly??? Well-for each their own I suppose..

Dazzle

29-10-2015, 17:57

The fight between Sophie and Kate was so cringeworthy and unsubtle. They might as well have been wearing T-shirts with "we're destined to fall in love" emblazoned on them. :wall:

tammyy2j

29-10-2015, 21:22

Mary wants younger friends but her new future boyfriend looks older too :p

maidmarian

29-10-2015, 22:39

Mary wants younger friends but her new future boyfriend looks older too :p

Mary is 40-ish. Norris Emily Rita etc are
80+ or nearly there.
The actor playing new boyfriend is about
60. Perhaps that will be "young" to Mary.:p

perspective of age depends on.your own
at the time

I can remember( as a teenager in my first job)
being deeply shocked that 2 people aged
about 30 who worked there were having an affair.:sick:
The shock was not so much about the affair
but the fact that such "old" people were still
indulging in.such activities.

mariba

30-10-2015, 14:27

So Mary is falling in love.. <3 :)

Glen1

30-10-2015, 14:31

If there's any paranormal activity suspected at the Platts ,Mary and Brendan could be the new Ghostbusters...:)

maidmarian

30-10-2015, 15:14

If there's any paranormal activity suspected at the Platts ,Mary and Brendan could be the new Ghostbusters...:)

Probably be better than the vicar!!

lizann

30-10-2015, 18:15

If there's any paranormal activity suspected at the Platts ,Mary and Brendan could be the new Ghostbusters...:)

new mulder and scully

lizann

30-10-2015, 18:15

If there's any paranormal activity suspected at the Platts ,Mary and Brendan could be the new Ghostbusters...:)

new mulder and scully

Dazzle

31-10-2015, 01:18

maidmarian

31-10-2015, 01:48

While I can completely understand Gary feeling betrayed, I hate the insinuation - particularly from her family - that Alya's now damaged goods. We know a male who'd behaved similarly wouldn't be judged so harshly. :angry:

I'm liking the chemistry between Mary and Brendan. :heart:

I think the attitude to Alya is typical of Soap
portrayal of women. Some ideas belong to the
century before last.They are either Desperate or
Dim and now this!!

On a more cheery note its nice to see Mary
with someone below pension age!:) just!!
I think they could make much more of
the character and hope they do!

mariba

31-10-2015, 09:51

While I can completely understand Gary feeling betrayed, I hate the insinuation - particularly from her family - that Alya's now damaged goods. We know a male who'd behaved similarly wouldn't be judged so harshly. :angry:

I think it's more to do with muslim religion and culture than general view..
It's been boring to watch this Alya's struggle as I can't really understand it.There's so many worse things you could do..All the damage she's done by revealing it all is far worse than keeping it as a secret. Jason was fine with it and already all forgotten, why couldn't she? Too honest for her own and everyone else's good. Stupid really.

mariba

31-10-2015, 09:51

While I can completely understand Gary feeling betrayed, I hate the insinuation - particularly from her family - that Alya's now damaged goods. We know a male who'd behaved similarly wouldn't be judged so harshly. :angry:

I think it's more to do with muslim religion and culture than general view..
It's been boring to watch this Alya's struggle as I can't really understand it.There's so many worse things you could do..All the damage she's done by revealing it all is far worse than keeping it as a secret. Jason was fine with it and already all forgotten, why couldn't she? Too honest for her own and everyone else's good. Stupid really.

sarah c

31-10-2015, 10:33

n the words of Rizzo in Grease.....'there are worse things I could do......then go with a boy or two...'

Snagglepus

31-10-2015, 10:33

Just another soap thing of portraying women with loose knicker elastic.
It seems it is only Mary who buys her underwear from the right place.

Snagglepus

31-10-2015, 10:33

dupl

Dazzle

31-10-2015, 17:55

I think it's more to do with muslim religion and culture than general view..
It's been boring to watch this Alya's struggle as I can't really understand it.There's so many worse things you could do..All the damage she's done by revealing it all is far worse than keeping it as a secret. Jason was fine with it and already all forgotten, why couldn't she? Too honest for her own and everyone else's good. Stupid really.

Bit in bold: that's the whole point though. Alya's been brought up to believe there isn't much worse a woman can do than to have sex outside of marriage. Her grandfather and brother's shaming of her at the revelation confirms this.

Obviously, the sensible thing to do would have been to keep quiet, but she was too distraught to do so. I actually think it's quite a good storyline to explore. After all, girls have been killed for far, far less. Even in Western society, women who are seen as promiscuous are judged far more harshly than their male counterparts.

Kim

31-10-2015, 19:49

I don't think this storyline has been so bad so far. The worst part for me was the pregnancy test. I just hope that if Blackburn had it in mind for Alya to be pregnant, someone has vetoed it (which may well be the case as it seems that Blackburn may have been sacked.) There have certainly been a few mentions lately (and Alya's scenes with Jake) which made me think that that may have been the intention.

Reactions have been pretty spot on I think. Garry's anger will surely intensify now that he knows it's Jason (if anything one of the issues with this storyline has been that Garry and Jason seem like they're suddenly good mates, whereas before Garry just happened to work for him and that was that.) In time, I hope that we'll see Garry come around a bit; he's no angel himself, and even tried to get with Tina while she was carrying Jake for him and Izzy. Although Alya crossed a line by sleeping with someone else, it was a mistake while she was grieving, whereas Garry's seemed more considered/to mean something.

As others have said, it is the culture issue with Alya. The treatment may be outdated and the show may be intending to prompt discussion of it, but it can't all be nice as otherwise Muslims will be complaining at the depiction. As well as the culture, I think the Nazirs feel even more let down by Alya as she has always been the one they've been proud of until now (the clever, educated one etc.) With both parents deceased, there's probably more pressure on her to make them proud. That can only make it worse in their eyes.

Dazzle

31-10-2015, 19:54

Reactions have been pretty spot on I think. Garry's anger will surely intensify now that he knows it's Jason (if anything one of the issues with this storyline has been that Garry and Jason seem like they're suddenly good mates, whereas before Garry just happened to work for him and that was that.) In time, I hope that we'll see Garry come around a bit; he's no angel himself, and even tried to get with Tina while she was carrying Jake for him and Izzy. Although Alya crossed a line by sleeping with someone else, it was a mistake while she was grieving, whereas Garry's seemed more considered/to mean something.

I agree about Gary's contrived sudden friendship with Jason. I've found that jarring too.

I think he will forgive Alya after he's calmed down, as I'm sure her family will too. After all she was devastated and acting completely out of character at the time.

lizann

31-10-2015, 20:24

yes gary and jason best buds came about suddenly, wasn't gary closer to ches and david

LollyCarpenter

31-10-2015, 20:32

Im not sure about David, but Gary was close to Chesney.

Kim

31-10-2015, 21:57

Forgot to add that I don't think the Nazirs' reaction would have been so severe had Alya had sex outside of marriage with Garry. Cheating is another level beyond their beliefs.

Kal must have had sex outside of marriage surely? (Leanne.)

The fact that Alya has lost her virginity in this way is probably making it harder still for them to take.

Kim

31-10-2015, 22:04

yes gary and jason best buds came about suddenly, wasn't gary closer to ches and david

David and Garry used to be, but I don't think there's been anything noteworthy since early 2011. I think it got dropped in favour of David/Kylie and the David, Kylie, Grahame and Sheen group. (At least from the episodes I saw.)

parkerman

31-10-2015, 22:40

With regard to this Alya storyline, I have just one thing to say...Phwoarrrrrrrr!!!

sarah c

01-11-2015, 08:52

Bit in bold: that's the whole point though. Alya's been brought up to believe there isn't much worse a woman can do than to have sex outside of marriage. Her grandfather and brother's shaming of her at the revelation confirms this.

Obviously, the sensible thing to do would have been to keep quiet, but she was too distraught to do so. I actually think it's quite a good storyline to explore. After all, girls have been killed for far, far less. Even in Western society, women who are seen as promiscuous are judged far more harshly than their male counterparts.

agreed, we may find it not that bad but it has to be put into a cultural context

sarah c

01-11-2015, 08:55

lizann

01-11-2015, 13:44

and we have to ask what would their reaction have been if it had been Zeedan that admitted to sleeping with someone?

id say zeedan has dipped his wick before more than once

lizann

01-11-2015, 13:44

and we have to ask what would their reaction have been if it had been Zeedan that admitted to sleeping with someone?

id say zeedan has dipped his wick before more than once

swmc66

01-11-2015, 17:29

swmc66

01-11-2015, 17:29

maidmarian

01-11-2015, 18:52

Even the men are not supposed to before marriage. If they have had girlfriends and families find out then the arranged marriage does not happen in some cases.
But men get away with it as it does not ' dishonour'the family if it was a daughter
Like i said this story does not make sense especially as she has been going out with Gary for so long...would they not have expected something to happen.

No.one knows how someone of a different
religion will behave in any particular situation
and what the effect of that behaviour will
be on others- unless they have direct experiences.

The same applies to illnesses/disabilities
nationalities etc. and other areas of life.

So they need to speak /consult a trusted
organisation /charity etc that does have
that knowledge! They will know the likely
variations and possibilities.!
But often in soaps they either dont consult
or ignore the info.They write whats most
effective for dramatic effect rather than
whats most likely to happen or would
make sense!
Soaps do have opportunities to broaden
public knowledge but often just mislead.

Perdita

01-11-2015, 19:05

[QUOTE=maidmarian;834328]No.one knows how someone of a different
religion will behave in any particular situation
and what the effect of that behaviour will
be on others- unless they have direct experiences.

The same applies to illnesses/disabilities
nationalities etc. and other areas of life.

So they need to speak /consult a trusted
organisation /charity etc that does have
that knowledge!
But often in soaps they either dont consult
or ignore the info.They write whats most
effective for dramatic effect rather than
whats most likely to happen or would
swmc
But this would have been an ideal situation to educate ... start with Gary falling for a musllim girl ... hightlight all the things swmc and others have raised .. like it was said, Gary started dating Ayla a fair while ago .. I would have loved to have been educated more about this :)

maidmarian

01-11-2015, 19:25

[QUOTE=maidmarian;834328]No

But this would have been an ideal situation to educate ... start with Gary falling for a musllim girl ... hightlight all the things swmc and others have raised .. like it was said, Gary started dating Ayla a fair while ago .. I would have loved to have been educated more about this :)

Yes -its a shame the opportunity been
missed/fudged. If they had spoken to
people with knowledge -it could have
been an interesting story!

P.s. swmc has outlined the "traditional"
attitude and also what happens in practice
in some cases. Either scenario would
have been informative-if done within
the remit decided upon.!

But storyline has floundered about and
a lot of confusion about the pregancy that
never was. As Swmc said in another post
there was no need Alya to tell Gary about
one night stand( tho it was honest)

As some of papers say !!! that SB was " sacked"
because of story lines- I did wonder if there
had been a complaint to.ITV about this
story and he was over-ridden and that's
partly why it doesnt seem to make sense!

*I noticed it in Daily Mirror when looking
something else up on Internet. Cant do
link. They also.said cast members cheered
at announcement! Readers of newspapers
make what they will of the contents!

From.the ITV announcement -it sounded
like a sideways move - which is different
to sacking financially & legally.But you
need to be an Employment Law expert
and have sight of contract !

lizann

01-11-2015, 23:34

has sophie trump packed in her job in dev's shop

maidmarian

01-11-2015, 23:41

has sophie trump packed in her job in dev's shop

Shes supposed to be going to "help" her
Dad in his business!!
I love to know why youve called Sophie
that- a bit nervous about the answer !!:)

lizann

02-11-2015, 00:51

Shes supposed to be going to "help" her
Dad in his business!!
I love to know why youve called Sophie
that- a bit nervous about the answer !!:)

a nod to donald trump

lizann

02-11-2015, 00:51

Shes supposed to be going to "help" her
Dad in his business!!
I love to know why youve called Sophie
that- a bit nervous about the answer !!:)

a nod to donald trump

maidmarian

02-11-2015, 01:01

a nod to donald trump

Oh dear! Thats very good!

I thought you were referring to something
quite different!
I send the embarassed icon-if I could find it
:)

Perdita

02-11-2015, 06:26

Oh dear! Thats very good!

I thought you were referring to something
quite different!
I send the embarassed icon-if I could find it
:)

If you use the Go Advanced option for posting, you will see most of the icons to choose from or you can use : and o without the gap :o

swmc66

02-11-2015, 08:00

Actress is taking 8 weeks off to be in the theatre.

Dazzle

02-11-2015, 16:49

Like i said this story does not make sense especially as she has been going out with Gary for so long...would they not have expected something to happen.

I always thought it was strange how happily the Nazirs welcomed the news of Alya and Gary's engagement, given how angry they were when they first found out they were seeing each other. Ex-con Gary's hardly the kind of husband they'd aspire to for their granddaughter.

I think it's happened because the writers have tried to make the Nazirs more likeable. A lot of people were calling for them to be axed not long ago, but they're a lot more watchable nowadays because they're (generally) less judgemental. The trouble is we're being given mixed messages because of the confused writing.

has sophie trump packed in her job in dev's shop

It's a miracle how a totally inexperienced Sophie's suddenly developed a keen business acumen, while Kevin (who's run his own business for many years) is suddenly floundering and in need of rescuing by her. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/confused/smileys-confused-140297.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

Perdita

02-11-2015, 17:06

It's a miracle how a totally inexperienced Sophie's suddenly developed a keen business acumen, while Kevin (who's run his own business for many years) is suddenly floundering and in need of rescuing by her. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/confused/smileys-confused-140297.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

To be fair, she has run Dev´s shop on her own when he has been away, I know Julie tried to stick her oar in from time to time but would not had any idea about running the shop seeing she was working as machinist. And Dev did have 7 shops at one time so she would have picked up some ideas from him maybe? :)

Dazzle

02-11-2015, 17:12

To be fair, she has run Dev´s shop on her own when he has been away, I know Julie tried to stick her oar in from time to time but would not had any idea about running the shop seeing she was working as machinist. And Dev did have 7 shops at one time so she would have picked up some ideas from him maybe? :)

That is very true, Sophie's more experienced in business than I gave her credit for. I still think her suddenly taking an interest in and control of Kevin's business is a bit contrived though... :D

tammyy2j

03-11-2015, 00:05

Max and David scenes were great

I like Nessa and think she suits Ken better than Audrey even though it is too soon

Dazzle

03-11-2015, 01:36

I was pleasantly surprised that Zeedan showed understanding towards Alya much quicker than I anticipated. Now he and Yasmeen need to work on Sharif. Most importantly, Alya needs to forgive herself and understand that what she did wasn't the end of the world.

I like Nessa and think she suits Ken better than Audrey even though it is too soon

Going by what Cathy said, I think we'll find there's more to Nessa than meets the eye. She sounds like a bit of a handful... :p

tammyy2j

03-11-2015, 10:55

The Barlows all seem to have stopped grieving for Deirdre already

Brucie

03-11-2015, 11:16

Really disappointed at how they took a bright, beautiful and confident female character and once again packed her off down the Soap Cul-de-sac of sexual activity-related relationship hell. Alya should have been the "New Carla" i.e. the new entrepreneur on the block (and without the Peter Barlow millstone) but is fast becoming the "New Maria".

Dazzle

03-11-2015, 18:30

The Barlows all seem to have stopped grieving for Deirdre already

I think it's been made clear that Ken is missing Deirdre and feeling very lonely without her.

Really disappointed at how they took a bright, beautiful and confident female character and once again packed her off down the Soap Cul-de-sac of sexual activity-related relationship hell. Alya should have been the "New Carla" i.e. the new entrepreneur on the block (and without the Peter Barlow millstone) but is fast becoming the "New Maria".

I agree with your general point.

As I've said, I think a perfect Muslim girl dishonouring herself and her family (in their eyes anyway) is an interesting story to explore - and a bit different to the usual soap fodder of affairs and love triangles.

However, the continued depiction of every female in soap's life revolving around getting and keeping a man is a subject I've been vocal about many times. Alya should never have been paired with Gary in the first place. She's way out of his league in every single way and he has nothing to offer a beautiful, intelligent and ambitious young woman like her. It'd be understandable if he were charming and charismatic, but I'm afraid he's anything but. Why would Alya be so desperate to hook herself up to him for life? :searchme:

(Notice the writers didn't feel the need to pair Zeedan up with the first available female he bumped into. :wall:)

I'd have also have liked Alya going off the rails after the sudden death of her father to have been explored in a lot more depth. It was basically just another way to have a soap character cheat on their partner - although at least this time there was the saving grace of other repercussions to explore as well.

tammyy2j

04-11-2015, 10:51

Alya and Aidan could be a good couple given time and build up more

I would have liked to see her become more bitchy in business plus she wanted revenge on Carla but now nothing against Tracy

Kissinger

04-11-2015, 12:18

I said to my wife that Ken's hair didn't look any different. She said, "Well, she's not a real hairdresser you know, she's just an actor...." er.....:hmm:

Doh did you not realise that, the best bit is, when DAvid starts "playing" with the hair of clients, then does off to see to his family!!

lizann

04-11-2015, 20:54

steve causing an earthquake they love making fun of him

Snagglepus

04-11-2015, 23:54

Steve has been made into a terrible character, he is like a ten year old.

sarah c

05-11-2015, 08:06

Doh did you not realise that, the best bit is, when DAvid starts "playing" with the hair of clients, then does off to see to his family!!

and Maria 'fluffing up' someone's hair without actually doing anything!!

at least at the Garage they have oil and grease on their gloves...

Dazzle

05-11-2015, 17:16

I was in hysterics when all of Steve's tiles fell off the wall at once. It was obvious that disaster was about to strike, but I wasn't expecting that! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

Alya and Aidan could be a good couple given time and build up more

I think that's a very good idea. Alya and Aidan are a much better match and her and Gary. Eva and Gary could work well too.

maidmarian

05-11-2015, 17:50

I was in hysterics when all of Steve's tiles fell off the wall at once. It was obvious that disaster was about to strike, but I wasn't expecting that! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

I think that's a very good idea. Alya and Aidan are a much better match and her and Gary. Eva and Gary could work well too.

Is having your tiles fall off a variation of
being a slate loose?:)

Agree about Alya & Aiden
Not so.sure about Gary & Eva? Think she
deserves better?

Dazzle

05-11-2015, 17:54

Is having your tiles fall off a variation of
being a slate loose?:)

If not, it ought to be after yesterday's Corrie! :D

Agree about Alya & Aiden
Not so.sure about Gary & Eva? Think she
deserves better?

You're right. I was just thinking Gary's a similar character to her ex, Jason (although the latter's a lot more likeable).

lizann

06-11-2015, 12:11

cant see eva and gary together, she needs back with jason

maidmarian

06-11-2015, 12:23

cant see eva and gary together, she needs back with jason

Agreed- but actor leaving!

swmc66

06-11-2015, 15:56

Looks like they are hinting an interest from Aidan

mariba

06-11-2015, 18:16

and Maria 'fluffing up' someone's hair without actually doing anything!!

at least at the Garage they have oil and grease on their gloves...

Audrey has more staff in the salon than clients in a week! :D
And she can't be very convincing herself either-burning customers hair with hair straightenes??(I mean, you only go through hair with them ONCE-not TEN times like she does...! :D) and off she goes to buy more biscuits...?????

mariba

06-11-2015, 18:16

Perdita

06-11-2015, 18:23

Audrey has more staff in the salon than clients in a week! :D
And she can't be very convincing herself either-burning customers hair with hair straightenes??(I mean, you only go through hair with them ONCE-not TEN times like she does...! :D) and off she goes to buy more biscuits...????? Must be getting hungry waiting for customers :p

swmc66

07-11-2015, 22:15

The other day David was acting out gving someone highlights. Anyway bit confused by Marys fella. He seems to act annoyed with her most of the time

sarah c

08-11-2015, 08:36

The other day David was acting out gving someone highlights. Anyway bit confused by Marys fella. He seems to act annoyed with her most of the time

I think he is deadly serious about the paranormal and isn't sure whether Mary feels the same or is being a bit flippant?

Perdita

08-11-2015, 09:19

I think he is deadly serious about the paranormal and isn't sure whether Mary feels the same or is being a bit flippant?

I think Mary is so smitten that she gets very nervous around him and talks even more when she is not and I dare say you have to get used to our Mary :D

parkerman

08-11-2015, 11:18

I take it that the random introduction of a paranormal believer and "expert" will eventually have something to do with Callum.......

Snagglepus

08-11-2015, 11:39

Surely Audrey noticed the bottle of wine and two glasses on the table when she went to see Ken.

Perdita

08-11-2015, 11:45

Could have been him and Tracy having a glass of wine .. or sometimes you don´t notice stuff on a table if you are busy talking and she would have been nervous trying to tell him about her feelings

sarah c

08-11-2015, 13:18

Could have been him and Tracy having a glass of wine .. or sometimes you don´t notice stuff on a table if you are busy talking and she would have been nervous trying to tell him about her feelings

and only one glass has been poured?

Snagglepus

08-11-2015, 14:00

and only one glass has been poured?

and another glass waiting for someone else...

Snagglepus

08-11-2015, 14:00

duplicate.

swmc66

09-11-2015, 22:39

This Nessa is short term until she sets her sights on another

Snagglepus

09-11-2015, 23:13

There is a shortage of available men on the street at the moment.
I can only think of Ken, Norris, Dev and Kevin.
Have I missed anyone?
Edit: Oh, and wotsizname Connor, the dad.

Snagglepus

09-11-2015, 23:13

duplicate.

parkerman

09-11-2015, 23:14

There is a shortage of available men on the street at the moment.
I can only think of Ken, Norris, Dev and Kevin.
Have I missed anyone?
Gary

tammyy2j

09-11-2015, 23:21

I agree with Tracy about Ken moving on

Dazzle

10-11-2015, 02:29

I agree with Tracy about Ken moving on

Only Ken can judge if it's the right time for him to move on. Tracy certainly has no right to judge - as Robert pointed out, she's a total hypocrite!

I didn't realise that Deirdre died six months ago. That's gone quick. :( I see nothing wrong with Ken finding someone else after that length of time, and it's in character for him not to be without a lady friend for long. He certainly seems sure that he's ready, and - let's face it - time isn't on his side.

However, I think he'll find Nessa is the wrong person to move on with...

Perdita

10-11-2015, 05:58

There is a shortage of available men on the street at the moment.
I can only think of Ken, Norris, Dev and Kevin.
Have I missed anyone?
Edit: Oh, and wotsizname Connor, the dad.

Zeedan, Gary, Johnny Connor, Aidan Connor :D

Perdita

10-11-2015, 05:58

Snagglepus

10-11-2015, 09:37

Zeedan, Gary, Johnny Connor, Aidan Connor :D

I left Jason and Gary out as I don't think Nessa would be after a toy boy.

Snagglepus

10-11-2015, 09:37

duplicate.

Perdita

10-11-2015, 10:12

I left Jason and Gary out as I don't think Nessa would be after a toy boy.

Not sure about that the way Cathy spoke about her :p:D

lizann

10-11-2015, 10:52

when did erica start working for dev as his shop girl

maidmarian

10-11-2015, 11:13

:heart:
Not sure about that the way Cathy spoke about her :p:D

If kens age & jasons( or garys ) are added together
and total divided by 2 - average should be about right? :)

Perdita

10-11-2015, 11:53

Perdita

10-11-2015, 11:53

when did erica start working for dev as his shop girl

Dev offered her the job and flat after she told him that her brother has moved in with their mum and he hates the redecorations she has made to her mum´s place so only very recent new job for her ... I can´t think of a reason why they are keeping her character ... can´t take to her and storylines with her are rubbish too http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/sticking-tongue-out/smileys-sticking-tongue-out-830662.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

maidmarian

10-11-2015, 12:31

Dev offered her the job and flat after she told him that her brother has moved in with their mum and he hates the redecorations she has made to her mum´s place so only very recent new job for her ... I can´t think of a reason why they are keeping her character ... can´t take to her and storylines with her are rubbish too http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/sticking-tongue-out/smileys-sticking-tongue-out-830662.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

I think they were pleased to get her on Corrie
as the actress is well known and played other
parts well. In a way its the opposite how they
dealt withMichelle Collins who was parachuted
into nearly every story -no matter how silly it
appeared for her to be there!

But with Erica they didnt think./plan about the
storylinesor which characters she could interact
with.
The miscarriage story just seemed like an
"add-on" and could have been written better.
So.I agree so far very poor - but might have
been better!

tammyy2j

10-11-2015, 13:08

I think they were pleased to get her on Corrie
as the actress is well known and played other
parts well. In a way its the opposite how they
dealt withMichelle Collins who was parachuted
into nearly every story -no matter how silly it
appeared for her to be there!

But with Erica they didnt think./plan about the
storylinesor which characters she could interact
with.
The miscarriage story just seemed like an
"add-on" and could have been written better.
So.I agree so far very poor - but might have
been better!

I agree the miscarriage could have been written better and not rushed

Dazzle

10-11-2015, 13:18

I agree the miscarriage could have been written better and not rushed

Yes. I felt really sorry for Erica when she had the miscarriage. It had been her last chance to have a child and obviously affected her very deeply. However, next time we saw her it might as well have never happened! Bad writing indeed...

mariba

10-11-2015, 23:26

For once I must agree with Tracy that this Nessa with Ken is tarnishing Deirdre's memory..:(

lizann

11-11-2015, 00:00

emily never moved on still grieves

maidmarian

11-11-2015, 00:48

emily never moved on still grieves

I agree that Ernest was the love of her life
but she did remarry. It turned out the marriage
was bigamous( on the grooms part)and he
also had mental health issues and was taken
away to be detained in a psychiatric hospital.

So.no wonder she wasnt tempted into
matrimony again!
She did seem.a little smitten with Norris's
brother?

maidmarian

11-11-2015, 01:09

For once I must agree with Tracy that this Nessa with Ken is tarnishing Deirdre's memory..:(

I think the memory of someone who has
died is what the people who.loved them
remember them for- not what one individual
choses to do.

KB has been widowed twice before when
his previous wives Val & Janet died( by
electrocution& suicide) In both marriages
he had affairs and resumed having relationships
quite soon after their deaths.Also during the
marriages there were separations and threats
of divorce.

So to me he is just resuming his previous
pattern of behaviour! Dierdre herself had
affairs but not on.the same scale as Ken!
I think if you are unfaithful to someone
with a number of people while they are alive-
Its not likely to change when they die!

Deirdre was a loyal mother to Tracy
and stood by her . If Tracy lets any thing
that Ken does spoil her memory then she
is really stupid.!!

A general point -I do think the time it
takes someone to recover from a bereavement
depends on circs and personality.

mariba

11-11-2015, 07:13

Well I don't bother analysing soap characters and their minds, I'm just saying that it's too much too soon, wrong type of woman and not even realistic considering Ken's age. They could write so many other things to him as well. And ken's and roy's friendship is great.

parkerman

11-11-2015, 08:52

Deirdre was a loyal mother to Tracy
and stood by her . If Tracy lets any thing
that Ken does spoil her memory then she
is really stupid.!!

Agreed, though, of course, Deidre stayed away in the last months of her life because of Tracy. Perhaps Tracy should remember that and the fact that it was because of her that Ken was denied Deidre's company in those last few months and be happy for Ken that he is able to move on.

tammyy2j

11-11-2015, 10:45

Agreed, though, of course, Deidre stayed away in the last months of her life because of Tracy. Perhaps Tracy should remember that and the fact that it was because of her that Ken was denied Deidre's company in those last few months and be happy for Ken that he is able to move on.

Why couldn't Ken have gone off to visit Deirdre?

I know everyone grieves in their own way and time but Tracy even said that Ken had abandoned going to Deirdre's grave

I would like to see more friendship scenes for Ken with Roy, Steve and Audrey

I just think it is too soon for Ken to have a new romance and given than Anne died in real life I think makes it worse perhaps imo

Even for all their affairs, Ken and Deirdre were one of Corrie's golden couples and will always be

maidmarian

11-11-2015, 12:18

Why couldn't Ken have gone off to visit Deirdre?

I know everyone grieves in their own way and time but Tracy even said that Ken had abandoned going to Deirdre's grave

I would like to see more friendship scenes for Ken with Roy, Steve and Audrey

I just think it is too soon for Ken to have a new romance and given than Anne died in real life I think makes it worse perhaps imo

Even for all their affairs, Ken and Deirdre were one of Corrie's golden couples and will always be

Just a few comments Tammy.

Ken not visiting Deirdre or her grave is just
Ken being Ken - self centred.It would have
needed a complete personality transplant for
him to be different. Hes written a certain way
and I cant see that changing.Its kept the actor
in a job for 55?years!

The time it takes to recover from a bereavement
and start a new relationship has attracted many
comments and each poster knows why they feel
as they do. Im firmly in the middle !! as rushed
ones arent always doomed and time for recovery
onessometimes fail.I do think your point about
Annes death is very valid. It upset a lot of posters
- inc me.

I agree about the friendships. Despite Roy
( allegedly having a personality problem??)
- he does interact well with a variety of other
characters! Probably the actors talent? I do
hope Aud recovers from her infatuation with Ken.!

Finally Ken & Deirdre might have been a golden
couple for some years but there were other
problems apart from affairs. I think when
the SWs remarried them after they had been
divorced for some years- it was partly cos they
couldnt think of any other long term plan for
them. Also in last few years.Deirdre had
seen Ken for what he was -but decided to
stick it out as some women do. She did seem to
be amused by his pomposity.(imo)

Where would we be if we all agreed??- no forum.!!

lizann

12-11-2015, 00:02

peter visit did not do simon any good, the little hulk still has his anger issues with leanne

Dazzle

12-11-2015, 18:02

I just think it is too soon for Ken to have a new romance and given than Anne died in real life I think makes it worse perhaps imo

I don't think Anne Kirkbride would want viewers to sentimentalise Ken and Deirdre's relationship because of her own death. She dearly loved the characters for all their flaws, and I don't think she'd have wanted Ken to change after Deirdre had gone. They were very close in real life so I think William Roache would probably refuse to act out anything he felt would disrespect her memory.

swmc66

13-11-2015, 00:36

Roys moved on very quickly too which is surprising

Dazzle

13-11-2015, 14:43

Roys moved on very quickly too which is surprising

Agreed. Roy moving on within two years is more unrealistic to me than Ken doing so in six months.

Kim

13-11-2015, 19:02

So Tracey couldn't change the passwords on the business account then?

Perdita

13-11-2015, 19:25

So Tracey couldn't change the passwords on the business account then?

Maybe she would have needed his permission to do so? Or he was Admin of the account and she could not have done so even if she wanted to ?

Kim

13-11-2015, 19:41

Agreed. Roy moving on within two years is more unrealistic to me than Ken doing so in six months.

David Neilson has asked for a three month break so I heard, so hopefully they'll add some realism and have Roy going away because he's having second thoughts.

Kim

13-11-2015, 19:45

Maybe she would have needed his permission to do so? Or he was Admin of the account and she could not have done so even if she wanted to ?

I don't have a joint account but in the real world you can change passcodes etc online (some banks require a card reader), so I don't think there's any way to enforce whether or not the second party on the account agrees. Presumably it was the fact that it was an online transfer that allowed Tony to clear it out; had he gone to the branch, she'd definitely have had to sign too.

Perdita

13-11-2015, 19:48

I don't have a joint account but in the real world you can change passcodes etc online (some banks require a card reader), so I don't think there's any way to enforce whether or not the second party on the account agrees. Presumably it was the fact that it was an online transfer that allowed Tony to clear it out; had he gone to the branch, she'd definitely have had to sign too.

But I think you need to be designated Admin on the online account to authorise changes? I never had a shared account so I don´t know but seems logical to me

parkerman

14-11-2015, 00:11

I think it's a case of different types of joint account and the way they are set up. For example, the way the joint account with my wife works means we each have our own password and security measures. You can change your own but not your partner's. So, in this case, Tracy would not have been able to change Tony's password etc.

However, theirs was probably a joint business account, which normally would mean that both signatures are needed before any changes can take place but also before any money can be taken out. However, they may have set it up so only one signature was needed for a withdrawal. This would seem to be more likely. So it could be that both signatures would be needed for security changes but only one for a withdrawal.

parkerman

14-11-2015, 00:13

I must have missed this somewhere, but how did Leanne arrange for Simon to miss so much school?

lizann

14-11-2015, 01:12

I must have missed this somewhere, but how did Leanne arrange for Simon to miss so much school?

was it 8 weeks he was away with peter?

johnny finding sally voice annoying was funny and amy steals the episode, bits of tracy, deirdre and blanche all in amy

lizann

14-11-2015, 01:12

maidmarian

14-11-2015, 01:14

I think it's a case of different types of joint account and the way they are set up. For example, the way the joint account with my wife works means we each have our own password and security measures. You can change your own but not your partner's. So, in this case, Tracy woukd not have been able to change Ton'y password etc.

However, theirs was probably a joint business account, which normally would mean that both signatures are needed before any changes can take place but also before any money can be taken out. However, they may have set it up so only one signature was needed for a withdrawal. This would seem to be more likely. So it could be that both signatures would be needed for security changes but only one for a withdrawal.

Im.sure you are right about only 1 signature for
withdrawal on Tracy & Tonys business account.
Where would soaps be if the characters behaved
in a responsible business way?
Theyve not known each other for long- but most
people would be wary of both of them!
And not go into business with either.

maidmarian

14-11-2015, 01:20

was it 8 weeks he was away with peter?

johnny finding sally voice annoying was funny and amy steals the episode, bits of tracy, deirdre and blanche all in amy

No similarity to.Nana Liz then?

Dazzle

14-11-2015, 20:28

No similarity to.Nana Liz then?

Maybe there is. Liz is showing some unexpected cunning at the moment in convincing Tony she doesn't want him to give Steve back his share of the pub. Is he really desperate enough to believe her?

lizann

14-11-2015, 20:58

will tony sign the pub back so fast to steve and liz, always thought tony was cunning and clever, maybe he loves liz

maidmarian

14-11-2015, 21:13

:searchme:
Maybe there is. Liz is showing some unexpected cunning at the moment in convincing Tony she doesn't want him to give Steve back his share of the pub. Is he really desperate enough to believe her?

It would be good if she was!
The worm would really have turned or-
more politely - a later life personality
transformation!:)

Dazzle

14-11-2015, 21:17

:searchme:

It would be good if she was!
The worm would really have turned or-
more politely - a later life personality
transformation!:)

I'm convinced Liz is playing Tony because otherwise she'd be begging him to give back Steve's share of the Rovers. By denying that she wants him to, she's making him think it's his idea.

I think he genuinely does love her.

maidmarian

14-11-2015, 21:19

will tony sign the pub back so fast to steve and liz, always thought tony was cunning and clever, maybe he loves liz

May be he does!
Problem with soaps - we usually know
which actor is leaving /asked for break etc
and.that does tend to influence your thinking-
well mine anyway!!

parkerman

14-11-2015, 23:58

I'm convinced Liz is playing Tony because otherwise she'd be begging him to give back Steve's share of the Rovers. By denying that she wants him to, she's making him think it's his idea.

I think he genuinely does love her.

I'm absolutely certain you're right, Dazzle. It's all an act by Liz to get all the pub back and lose him his other business (with Tracy) as well. She's making a good job of it too.

maidmarian

15-11-2015, 00:54

Dazzle

16-11-2015, 01:39

She's making a good job of it too.

She is, I've been quite impressed.

Perdita

16-11-2015, 19:58

Yeahhhh Liz got the pub back!!! At least Tony did the right thing not that Liz should ever trust him again :nono: :D

Snagglepus

16-11-2015, 20:05

I thought Steve borrowed £30,000 from Tony to pay his tax bill, if he hadn't he would have lost his share anyway.

lizann

16-11-2015, 20:13

I thought Steve borrowed £30,000 from Tony to pay his tax bill, if he hadn't he would have lost his share anyway.

he sold his pub share to tony's fake company to pay back tony

lizann

16-11-2015, 20:13

I thought Steve borrowed £30,000 from Tony to pay his tax bill, if he hadn't he would have lost his share anyway.

he sold his pub share to tony's fake company to pay back tony

tammyy2j

17-11-2015, 15:19

Good on Liz, I think part of still her loves Tony but she loves Steve and the pub more :p

Michelle really annoyed me though last night, send her off to Ireland or Spain for a holiday

Perdita

17-11-2015, 16:56

Good on Liz, I think part of still her loves Tony but she loves Steve and the pub more :p

Michelle really annoyed me though last night, send her off to Ireland or Spain for a holiday

Think it is more than a part but she knows she can´t trust him and yessss, got the pub back .. all that matters right now but it was very very tough for her .. and Tony at the receiving end ..

Perdita

17-11-2015, 16:56

Dazzle

17-11-2015, 17:39

I thought Steve borrowed £30,000 from Tony to pay his tax bill, if he hadn't he would have lost his share anyway.

The tax bill was £10,000 and Tony agreed to pay it outright (at Liz's behest).

Tony suddenly called in the money (by pretending loan sharks were after him and about to do him serious harm) so Steve had no choice but to offload his share of the pub quickly (to Travis Ltd/Tony). Steve wouldn't have lost the pub if Tony had kept his word (or if they'd agreed the money could be paid back in instalments).

Think it is more than a part but she knows she can´t trust him and yessss, got the pub back .. all that matters right now but it was very very tough for her .. and Tony at the receiving end ..

No pity for Tony here! Remember he also nearly got Liz's share of the pub by persuading her to move to Spain and start a new life with him. He's been a total swine to the McDonalds. He got a taste of his own medicine last night! :cheer:

I do think Tony's a very good character though and I'll miss him when he goes. :(

maidmarian

17-11-2015, 18:00

The tax bill was £10,000 and Tony agreed to pay it outright (at Liz's behest).

No pity for Tony here! Remember he also nearly got Liz's share of the pub by persuading her to move to Spain and start a new life with him. He's been a total swine to the McDonalds. He got a taste of his own medicine last night! :cheer:

I do think Tony's a very good character though and I'll miss him when he goes. :(

Pleased to see NuLiz and hope she retains the
transformation longer term.
People in real life do sometimes change their
pattern of behaviour -even at quite a mature
age!!

lizann

17-11-2015, 18:13

was hoping liz would have kicked out tracy of the pub

steve will stay longer in spain despite his triumphant mam's plan working

Dazzle

17-11-2015, 18:14

was hoping liz would have kicked out tracy of the pub

Me too! :angry:

Snagglepus

17-11-2015, 18:49

The tax bill was £10,000 and Tony agreed to pay it outright (at Liz's behest).

So Steve's share in the pub was only worth £10,000.

How much was Carla going to pay to buy Liz's share?

Dazzle

17-11-2015, 18:57

So Steve's share in the pub was only worth £10,000.

No, but the only way Steve had to raise the money quickly was to sell the pub. I don't think he made much (if any) profit - I assume because of a mortage?

lizann

18-11-2015, 19:54

sad to see tony go, him with grimshaw boys in loft was good

simon and tracy need a thump

don't think kate is as keen on wedding as fiancee

lizann

18-11-2015, 19:54

sad to see tony go, him with grimshaw boys in loft was good

simon and tracy need a thump

don't think kate is as keen on wedding as fiancee

Perdita

18-11-2015, 20:05

sad to see tony go, him with grimshaw boys in loft was good

simon and tracy need a thump

don't think kate is as keen on wedding as fiancee

Could this be because of Sophie? :hmm:

parkerman

18-11-2015, 21:25

It's a miracle! Todd is no longer scarred for life.

lizann

18-11-2015, 22:45

Could this be because of Sophie? :hmm:

ah no i hope not

tammyy2j

19-11-2015, 11:37

So long Tony I do hope he returns

I am glad he left Jason the business and on good terms with him and not wanting revenge on Liz, her heartbroken look as he left was sad but she has her pub back

Jason now knowing Todd and Tony took and torched Callum's car, will he tell anyone else, David and Kylie saw them take it so they know

Perdita

19-11-2015, 13:37

I shall miss Tony, took me a while to take to the character but being Jason´s dad there is always a chance of him returning one day, which would be good :thumbsup:

sarah c

19-11-2015, 14:32

Could this be because of Sophie? :hmm:

I dont think so, I think it is because they havent been together that long

Dazzle

19-11-2015, 18:08

Jason now knowing Todd and Tony took and torched Callum's car, will he tell anyone else, David and Kylie saw them take it so they know

I don't think they did. From what I can remember, David went out to the car and found it gone. I can't remember him (or Kylie) seeing Tony and Todd take it.

Perdita

19-11-2015, 18:11

I don't think they did. From what I can remember, David went out to the car and found it gone. I can't remember him (or Kylie) seeing Tony and Todd take it.

I think Dave saw it drive off but not who was driving??? Not 100% sure though

parkerman

19-11-2015, 18:12

I don't think they did. From what I can remember, David went out to the car and found it gone. I can't remember him (or Kylie) seeing Tony and Todd take it.
I think you're right Dazzle. I think they were shocked when they found it gone and had no idea who took it. That's my memory of it......but then I am getting on a bit.....

Dazzle

19-11-2015, 18:20

That's my memory of it......but then I am getting on a bit....

You're only as young as the prose you write (which is positively youthful incidentally)... http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/dancing/smileys-dancing-176278.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

swmc66

22-11-2015, 21:03

Not liking this Simon storyline at all. Tracy has a nerve. Simon is Kens biological grandchild and has every right to stay

swmc66

22-11-2015, 21:51

The dog smells the dead body thats why it keeps stopping at Gails

Kissinger

23-11-2015, 11:07

Not liking this Simon storyline at all. Tracy has a nerve. Simon is Kens biological grandchild and has every right to stay

what i want to know is, where do they all sleep? is it not a 2 up 2 down terrace?????????
unless Simon sleeps with his Grandad and Amy sleeps with her mam?
Maybe they can house a refugee in Blanche's old room, seems this house is like the TArdis!!! :hmm:

No I think this poor kid is totally mixed up, who can blame him, Alcoholic Dad, deceased Mother, Crazy Aunt and his DAd's ex for a "Mum"
NO not looking good, Simon must feel totally lost :crying:

lizann

23-11-2015, 22:19

izzy was faster in her wheels than luke and his race car driver competitor

tammyy2j

24-11-2015, 14:19

Robert is very sympathetic to Leanne and Simon, history in his family of domestic abuse?

Dazzle

24-11-2015, 17:10

what i want to know is, where do they all sleep? is it not a 2 up 2 down terrace?????????

Amy's bedroom has been shown before to be the downstairs front room that was once Blanche's. I've no idea where Simon was sleeping though...

Robert is very sympathetic to Leanne and Simon, history in his family of domestic abuse?

That's what I was thinking. I really like the way Robert won't take any sh*t from Tracy. :thumbsup:

I thought Monday's two episodes focusing on Simon/Leanne and revenge porn storyline were pretty good. I'm glad to see Simon being portrayed as sympathetic again. I was worried he was turning into a stone cold psycho for a while!

lizann

25-11-2015, 22:08

woohoo go robert

sarah c

26-11-2015, 10:55

I definately think Robert has experience domestic abuse or has had anger issues as a child himself?

that is where his empathy with Leanne is coming from

Perdita

26-11-2015, 11:04

I definately think Robert has experience domestic abuse or has had anger issues as a child himself?

that is where his empathy with Leanne is coming from

I got the feeling he had experienced abuse possibly from his dad when he was talking to Simon after he lashed out at Amy ..

tammyy2j

26-11-2015, 12:25

Robert has become way more interesting and tolerable to me after his outburst at Tracy :p I also think he has history of abuse in some way

Dazzle

27-11-2015, 09:45

Tracey back to her usual bitchy worst... :angry:

How can Robert - who seems like a genuinely decent guy - tolerate and be in love with someone so vile? :searchme:

sarah c

27-11-2015, 11:03

Tracey back to her usual bitchy worst... :angry:

How can Robert - who seems like a genuinely decent guy - tolerate and be in love with someone so vile? :searchme:

but if he has been a victim of abuse, being treated like cr*p is his norm? and he will not expect anything more or feel he deserves more?

Dazzle

27-11-2015, 14:16

but if he has been a victim of abuse, being treated like cr*p is his norm? and he will not expect anything more or feel he deserves more?

That's true, although I'm not sure it applies to Robert because he's not in the least bit afraid to express his disapproval if Tracy really steps over the line. I can't understand why he so obviously dislikes her constant bitchiness but still appears to love her... :wall:

Perdita

27-11-2015, 16:58

True love?? Accept your partner with all their faults?? He does tell her to wind her neck in from time to time ...So far, he looks like a dream partner to me until no doubt his dark side surfaces http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/devil/smileys-devil-397549.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

Kim

27-11-2015, 19:57

The Simon attacks Amy thing wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. She was being a Tracey clone at the time. Tracey really needs to look in the mirror before she has a go at Leanne. She seems to expect Steve to do 95% of the parenting and slags him off if he doesn't do it. Leanne would be well within her rights to wash her hands of Simon (she never adopted him, did she?) I can't think of many step parents who would stand by a step child if they were the subject of their abuse.

Simon has said about everything else to hurt his family than to point out that Amy isn't Ken's real granddaughter. I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet.

There is definitely some history with Robert and in a few scenes, it seemed to me that he was possibly the abused who became an abuser.

lizann

27-11-2015, 20:34

mary's heart broken deflated like santa

flappinfanny

28-11-2015, 00:00

The Mary, Norris, Rita, Emily scenes were not very funny tonight for some reason. However Eva is pure gold. I loved the Psycho Tracey Reference. Cath Tyldesley is amazing, I hope the writers continue to give her nuggets of gold. Eva is the only character worth watching at the mo.

tammyy2j

28-11-2015, 00:53

Was Bren Bren leading Mary on or just that he found a friend with a common interest to him or does he have possible romance in mind for Mary

I didn't expect his wife to come out this soon by himself

swmc66

28-11-2015, 18:59

Thats whats confusing me now

Perdita

28-11-2015, 19:22

I think he just never thought to mention her, no misleading intended ....I think Mary got a bit carried away with the attention BrenBren gave her ... poor Mary :(

lizann

28-11-2015, 19:28

I think he just never thought to mention her, no misleading intended ....I think Mary got a bit carried away with the attention BrenBren gave her ... poor Mary :(

any attention from any man and mary is planning their future together :p

lizann

28-11-2015, 19:28

Perdita

28-11-2015, 19:32

She gets on brilliantly with Dev´s s twins ..... he is very protective of her ..... please Dev keep providing your chest for Mary to rest her head on when BrenBren and herare no longer :D

Dazzle

28-11-2015, 21:22

However Eva is pure gold. I loved the Psycho Tracey Reference. Cath Tyldesley is amazing, I hope the writers continue to give her nuggets of gold. Eva is the only character worth watching at the mo.

I agree, Eva's improved so much since she first arrived on the cobbles (when I disliked her). She carries off witty one-liners with panache, and is a classic tough-Northern-woman-with-a-heart-of-gold that Corrie was built on. She can do emotional too as her recent scenes with Leanne have proved.

Was Bren Bren leading Mary on or just that he found a friend with a common interest to him or does he have possible romance in mind for Mary

I think he just never thought to mention her, no misleading intended ....I think Mary got a bit carried away with the attention BrenBren gave her ... poor Mary :(

I agree with Perdita, although I also think there's a possibility he became aware of her romantic intentions and was letting her down gently. Either way, more heartbreak for Mary... :(

True love?? Accept your partner with all their faults?? He does tell her to wind her neck in from time to time ...So far, he looks like a dream partner to me until no doubt his dark side surfaces http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/devil/smileys-devil-397549.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

I know from experience that it's possible to fall in love with someone you wouldn't even like if you didn't have your rose-tinted specs on. :(

The trouble is that to me Robert isn't behaving like some starry-eyed lover who won't realise the truth about his girlfriend until the honeymoon's over. He can clearly already see Tracy for who she really is, hates her poisonousness, yet loves her anyway. That's what doesn't make sense to me.

I can understand someone like Rob Donovan loving her. He's lacking any morals himself and didn't give a damn who Tracey hurt. He found her bitchiness amusing if I remember correctly.

I agree there might be an as yet unrevealed dark side to Robert. Maybe that'll explain the paradox. :searchme:

Kim

29-11-2015, 15:04

Perdita

29-11-2015, 15:29

The only problem I have with Eva is the awful laugh that surfaces at times and the way she calls nearly everyone "hun." It seemed to rub off on Kylie over the summer, who called Max it. I cringed.

Was I the only person who found the end of Friday's quite flat and out of place? It's soapland so of course Tyrone would take a payday loan rather than confide in Roy and accept his help, but it seemed like the kind of scene that should come before the commercial break, not at the end of the episode.

I love Eva´s laugh, sorry Kim and on another forum I am on there are a lot of ´huns´ I find it quite endearing.
I imagine that we are meant to ponder all weekend on whether Ty will get the loan (he will) and of course he will end up in big trouble ...

Snagglepus

30-11-2015, 17:18

Only one Episode on tonight, not good enough.

swmc66

30-11-2015, 22:17

That's her real laugh by the way

lizann

01-12-2015, 00:20

shayne isn't feeling cold this time of year, no complaints of him wet and naked

sarah should have stayed in milan

lizann

01-12-2015, 00:20

shayne isn't feeling cold this time of year, no complaints of him wet and naked

sarah should have stayed in milan

flappinfanny

01-12-2015, 12:21

Only one Episode on tonight, not good enough.

Three cheers for the Jungle. :cheer:

Seriously I would love Corrie to go back to Thrice weekly Mon-Weds-Fri. It would really help the show.

flappinfanny

01-12-2015, 12:23

The only positives I could come up with about last nights episode were:

Jack P Shepherd, he owns most scenes he is in, I loved his face at the end of the episode. Also I love Craig, he is so natural and a great young character. I think Faye maybe getting a bit jealous.

sarah c

01-12-2015, 12:26

shayne isn't feeling cold this time of year, no complaints of him wet and naked

sarah should have stayed in milan

no there was a bit too much 'timber' on Shayne!!

lizann

03-12-2015, 00:09

so sick of sarah just kill her off already

carla and sally were funny

lizann

03-12-2015, 00:09

so sick of sarah just kill her off already

carla and sally were funny

maidmarian

03-12-2015, 00:22

so sick of sarah just kill her off already

carla and sally were funny

Will there be space down the manhole??

Dazzle

03-12-2015, 02:41

Will there be space down the manhole??

Yes, if the conspiracy theories that Callum isn't down there are correct... http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

maidmarian

03-12-2015, 04:32

Yes, if the conspiracy theories that Callum isn't down there are correct... http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

I had read spoilers saying there was a pic
of David looking down manhole-gob-smacked?!

Thanks for info Dazzle.I wont blow my own
bugle yet? But I have said from the start
I was not totally convinced that Callum was
down there-but wait and see.

I wont claim my opinion was based on deep
and meaningful.thought- just the fact that
Assassins'ArenT' Us were doing the job!!

Perdita

03-12-2015, 04:57

Is Kylie still spraying "The Extension" on a daily basis with air freshener or has the smell she was so worried about suddenly disappeared? :p

Dazzle

03-12-2015, 19:05

Is Kylie still spraying "The Extension" on a daily basis with air freshener or has the smell she was so worried about suddenly disappeared? :p

I think David managed to convince her it was all in her mind. :D

swmc66

04-12-2015, 22:30

Still got to watch the whole weeks worth of corrie. Looks like a lot has happened.

flappinfanny

06-12-2015, 00:44

Will there be space down the manhole??
I feel dirty when I say 'Gails Manhole.' :p

flappinfanny

06-12-2015, 00:46

Sally was funny in the Bistro. Carla and Nick make a nice couple. The best thing about CS at present is Jack P Shepherd. He is knocking it out of the park in every scene.

tammyy2j

07-12-2015, 22:32

Tim and Sally saved a bad double episode for me even though it was nice seeing Rob again

I couldn't care less about Ken in his jeans and his ladies

Was it Carla or Tracy who called the police on Rob and got him caught?

flappinfanny

07-12-2015, 23:35

I agree Sally and Tim were very funny. The Liz, Anna and Erica scenes were forced and not funny. Good to see Rob but the rest was ropey. We certainly didn't need two, 22 minute episodes, we could have fit the good bits in 15 minutes max. :)

Do we really care about Nessa and Ken wearing a pair of trendy Jeans????

Glen1

08-12-2015, 13:04

Was it Carla or Tracy who called the police on Rob and got him caught?

Carla called the police initially at the wedding reception and tells Rob what she has done. Rob flees and books into a hotel. He phones Tracy and arranges to meet her at a warehouse ,where the police turn up and arrest Rob. Seem to recall Tracy told Rob she had informed the police, just prior to their arrival. So I guess Carla partly but mainly Tracy finally got him arrested.

Dazzle

08-12-2015, 19:17

I couldn't care less about Ken in his jeans and his ladies

I agree and I'm not sure why; I feel like I should care. Maybe it's because Ken and the unlikeable Nessa have been flung together in a highly contrived manner, and we all know that he and Audrey will end up together. Maybe because it all feels very shallow, when Ken's first relationship since Deirdre's death should be anything but. :searchme:

swmc66

10-12-2015, 04:50

I am sure they will get together on new years eve or sonething

maidmarian

10-12-2015, 07:44

I agree and I'm not sure why; I feel like I should care. Maybe it's because Ken and the unlikeable Nessa have been flung together in a highly contrived manner, and we all know that he and Audrey will end up together. Maybe because it all feels very shallow, when Ken's first relationship since Deirdre's death should be anything but. :searchme:

Like a lot of selfproclaimed deep thinkers
KB has always been "shallow" to me and he
set the pattern for not moving off the street.
"Big fish in little pond " syndrome!

My main issue is making Audrey look desparate!!
But I suppose as Liz has been removed from
the rota -someone has to replace her! Poor Aud!

Dazzle

11-12-2015, 05:41

It's laughable that David's feelings are hurt because Kylie suspected him of doing something he has form for - namely attempting to hurt and/or kill family members that he has a grudge against.

OK, it's a long time since he pushed Gail down the stairs, but it's only a couple of years since he deliberately caused the crash that severely injured Nick. He also subsequently tried to suffocate the unconscious Nick in his hospital bed but was disturbed. Kylie probably doesn't know about the latter but I doubt David's forgotten, so his self-righteousness is absurd.

I had to laugh when Audrey said Nick and Carla shouldn't hang about because they're no spring chickens. The writers seem to have forgotten that the character of Nick is only 34 (nearly 35) - although Ben Price is nearly a decade older (and looks it).

lizann

11-12-2015, 19:58

who was roy married to besides hayley, was it tracy

Perdita

11-12-2015, 20:26

who was roy married to besides hayley, was it tracy

He was never married to Tracy, she conned him and Hayley out of cash for "Amy" after drugging him with alcohol and then claiming the baby was his .. he was divorced when he came to Corrie, I don´t think his ex wife was ever mentioned

lizann

11-12-2015, 21:36

liz chasing out after johnny was weird

Ruffed_lemur

11-12-2015, 21:38

Like a lot of selfproclaimed deep thinkers
KB has always been "shallow" to me and he
set the pattern for not moving off the street.
"Big fish in little pond " syndrome!

My main issue is making Audrey look desparate!!
But I suppose as Liz has been removed from
the rota -someone has to replace her! Poor Aud!

I wish they wouldn't make Audrey look desperate / lovesick for Ken! Think the whole storyline is stupid. When did Audrey ever have feelings for Ken, in all these years?