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tammyy2j
02-07-2015, 21:43
Has Mary forgotten about her motorhome or is Todd living in it now somewhere :p
Also has Julie sold or rented out the flat she and Brian bought from Jason?
has mary even said anything about it, dev never questioned her living in his house
Bye Julie, I will miss you and maybe you and Brian will become a couple again xxx
did julie give any notice to carla
cathy a hoarder what a mess
did julie give any notice to carla
cathy a hoarder what a mess
And there was me hoping that the police would be following up after the fire.
did julie give any notice to carla
You don´t need to in soapland ... you just leave your workplace when you have to without consulting bosses/ colleagues:p
Has Mary forgotten about her motorhome or is Todd living in it now somewhere :p
Also has Julie sold or rented out the flat she and Brian bought from Jason?
I presume it got crushed... did she not mention something about not being able to afford it? That may have extended to fines and the clamping release charge.
parkerman
04-07-2015, 08:40
did julie give any notice to carla
She asked Sean to let Carla know. Plenty of notice!
Did Brian take any luggage?:confused:
Michael cannot forgive Andy and not forgive Gail.
Maybe yes-Andy started it, but Gail was Michael's girlfriend/wife to be- what she did id quite unforgivable, the extent she went with her lies. She's the one who should have stopped it all in time and allowed Michael to know the truth, regardless of the consequences. Well-she's messed it all up now in any case(as always) by telling everyone what she really thinks of him! Classy Gail..not.
maidmarian
04-07-2015, 10:09
She asked Sean to let Carla know. Plenty of notice!
Did Brian take any luggage?:confused:
Are you concerned Brian took.Kens Kimono??
Perhaps had an eye on it for yourself!":)
parkerman
04-07-2015, 10:53
I was just thinking that if he was going off for three months it might have taken him a bit longer to get packed.
Maybe he was packed already to leave Kens as Julie was leaving the street. Or he had an idea that there may be a chance of a last minute change.
I'm sorry to see Julie go but the impression we were given that Brian would win her back left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Much as I enjoy watching the character of Brian, he treated Julie appallingly. I wanted her to have the strength and self-respect to go on the cruise on her own.
did julie give any notice to carla
She asked Sean to let Carla know. Plenty of notice!
The bizarre thing about not speaking to Carla (ever heard of the phone?) is that Julie must be expecting to come back to Coronation Street after the holiday so she'll want her job left open. Who would walk away from a job they needed without a word? http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/confused/smileys-confused-140297.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
Did Brian take any luggage?:confused:
After Julie got into the taxi the scene cut to the Rovers for a minute or two, then back to Julie and Brian in the taxi. Therefore Brian could theoretically have had time to pop home and grab his things (which were probably already mostly in bags). It's unthinkable that he just hopped into the taxi and went on holiday with no luggage at all - which is what the editing suggested! :wall:
Are you concerned Brian took.Kens Kimono??
Perhaps had an eye on it for yourself!\":)
Surely not after Brian's comment about the feeling of silk against bare skin! :sick: http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
Cathy's hoard looked unrealistically bright and shiny. Rooms full of junk take years to accumulate and are usually covered in a thick layer of dust and cobwebs because there's no access to clean. As a child I used to have piano lessons in a house like that, though hoarding wasn't well known as a mental health problem at the time.
I do think it's an original soap story and could be good if handled well. However, I suspect we won't be delving too deeply into Cathy's psyche and that it'll be glossed over quickly.
I think it was stupid writing to get Nick and Erica back together. Even they know it's doomed to failure! :wall:
we will hear of julie having a holiday cruise romance so wont be returning or she will fall overboard lost at sea
we will hear of julie having a holiday cruise romance so wont be returning
We know she won't be returning but she doesn't at the moment.
or she will fall overboard lost at sea
I hope not! :eek:
maidmarian
04-07-2015, 21:02
We know she won't be returning but she doesn't at the moment
or she may fall overboard
I hope not! :eek:
I know you dont watch it but it -but it did
happen in ED* some years ago(with a bit of
a push)
And theres more than usual resurrecting
old stories or re-using another soaps stories
at the moment!!
Not that I want it to happen!
* not sure if it was when SB was producer
maidmarian
04-07-2015, 21:02
dupl
tammyy2j
04-07-2015, 23:53
I presume it got crushed... did she not mention something about not being able to afford it? That may have extended to fines and the clamping release charge.
Where does Mary's mother live?
i found the scenes for deirdre's return and party very ott tonight
Has Deirdre's birthday always been around the same day as Simon's or has hers been moved for dramatic effect?
Has Deirdre's birthday always been around the same day as Simon's or as hers been moved for dramatic effect?
i don't remember it before them being the same
Has Deirdre's birthday always been around the same day as Simon's or as hers been moved for dramatic effect?
i don't remember it before them being the same
Not sure if they share the same date but I remember both characters having a birthday in July
Plus that I felt they were all struggling not to cry when they were pretending that she was still alive and coming back..Maybe it was all too soon..Very ' Ken' though-to buy a new oven and a book for her 60th birthday! :D I would have loved to see Deirdre's reaction to that..:(
i found the scenes for deirdre's return and party very ott tonight
It's only natural the whole Corrie team are putting a huge effort into Deirdre's final story out of respect for her. I found all the excited talk of her return very sad. I'm dreading her death being announced. :(
Aww... I'm glad Kylie and David are back together. They work so well as a couple. At last one of the writers finally remembred that David kicked Kylie out! :clap:
Sarah actually looked animated for once when she was at the bar last night! :eek:
I'm glad Cathy's hoarding storyline isn't being glossed over as I feared it would be. One man's rubbish...
That Dan's a nasty piece of work! :thumbsdow
I felt really sorry for Leanne last night. She was getting it from all sides. :(
tammyy2j
07-07-2015, 15:14
Plus that I felt they were all struggling not to cry when they were pretending that she was still alive and coming back..Maybe it was all too soon..Very ' Ken' though-to buy a new oven and a book for her 60th birthday! :D I would have loved to see Deirdre's reaction to that..:(
Yes especially Bill Roache (Ken) he looked like he was going to cry a few times to me
Yes especially Bill Roache (Ken) he looked like he was going to cry a few times to me
real tears tonight for all
Yes especially Bill Roache (Ken) he looked like he was going to cry a few times to me
real tears tonight for all
I just can't see Bev but 'Hidly' and was waiting Mrs.Brown to appear from around the corner..! ��..that spoiled it for me. Plus that episode should have been only about Deirdre and no interruptions. We didn't need to see Sarah and Callum..
But Steve and Ken in the end was really sad, and seeing Ken holding Deirdre's glasses �� I've missed her all this time ,really difficult to accept she'll never be seen again..
I just can't see Bev but 'Hidly' and was waiting Mrs.Brown to appear from around the corner..! 😂..that spoiled it for me. Plus that episode should have been only about Deirdre and no interruptions. We didn't need to see Sarah and Callum..
But Steve and Ken in the end was really sad, and seeing Ken holding Deirdre's glasses 😢 I've missed her all this time ,really difficult to accept she'll never be seen again..
In floods of tears second half of episode, my dogs picked up on it and came to comfort me, bless them, ... I have always liked Deirdre and I think Anne Kirkbride did a very good job for the last 40years ... RIP Deirdre, RIP Anne .. I miss you xx
tammyy2j
08-07-2015, 22:17
I just can't see Bev but 'Hidly' and was waiting Mrs.Brown to appear from around the corner..! ��..that spoiled it for me. Plus that episode should have been only about Deirdre and no interruptions. We didn't need to see Sarah and Callum..
But Steve and Ken in the end was really sad, and seeing Ken holding Deirdre's glasses �� I've missed her all this time ,really difficult to accept she'll never be seen again..
So sad those scenes
I just can't see Bev but 'Hidly' and was waiting Mrs.Brown to appear from around the corner..! 😂..that spoiled it for me. Plus that episode should have been only about Deirdre and no interruptions. We didn't need to see Sarah and Callum..
But Steve and Ken in the end was really sad, and seeing Ken holding Deirdre's glasses 😢 I've missed her all this time ,really difficult to accept she'll never be seen again..
no need at all for sarah ever
I just can't see Bev but 'Hidly' and was waiting Mrs.Brown to appear from around the corner..! 😂..that spoiled it for me. Plus that episode should have been only about Deirdre and no interruptions. We didn't need to see Sarah and Callum..
But Steve and Ken in the end was really sad, and seeing Ken holding Deirdre's glasses 😢 I've missed her all this time ,really difficult to accept she'll never be seen again..
no need at all for sarah ever
That was difficult to watch. I don't know if I can cope with the funeral. :(
Liz was the character who set me off the most. Beverly Callard was of course best friends with Anne in real life, so I knew everything she said about Deirdre was real to her. Her expression said it was all too real too. :(
I was thinking while watching that I don't know if I'd believe it if someone I barely knew announced that a loved one had died. Then I realised it's easy to tell when someone's shocked to the core; you'd instinctively know they were telling the truth.
I was surprised Ken didn't go and see Deirdre at the hospital, but that might be mentioned in the next episode.
RIP Deirdre. :crying:
I found it strange though..that Bev said Deirdre had died that afternoon?? Yet she had already driven all the way to Manchester(wherever she lives, can't be just around the corner) while all upset herself-how did she manage that? Plus that she also had Deirdre's glasses and stuff..I don't know, but somehow phonecall would have felt more natural..She could have arrived later to funeral etc. And as said, I just saw 'Hidly' when I saw Bev :D Sorry..
All and all the whole episode was too rushed-double episode would have been better for it..or at least it should have been just about Deirdre and Barlows, no Platts or Michael/Eileen..
I'm sure they are going to ruin the funeral episode with some other rubbish as well.
Miss you Deirdre..rip :( :(
I found it strange though..that Bev said Deirdre had died that afternoon?? Yet she had already driven all the way to Manchester(wherever she lives, can't be just around the corner) while all upset herself-how did she manage that? Plus that she also had Deirdre's glasses and stuff..I don't know, but somehow phonecall would have felt more natural..She could have arrived later to funeral etc. And as said, I just saw 'Hidly' when I saw Bev :D Sorry..
All and all the whole episode was too rushed-double episode would have been better for it..or at least it should have been just about Deirdre and Barlows, no Platts or Michael/Eileen..
I'm sure they are going to ruin the funeral episode with some other rubbish as well.
Miss you Deirdre..rip :( :(
I must say-for the first time ever..Ken looked very fragile and small..:(
Whenever he's gone too, I don't think there's much point for Corrie to go on as Barlows=Coronation Street for me. <3
I must say-for the first time ever..Ken looked very fragile and small..:(
Whenever he's gone too, I don't think there's much point for Corrie to go on as Barlows=Coronation Street for me. <3
Bev looked so immaculate not a hair out of place and make up. If i had found my friend dead a few hours before i would have been a wreck. When my elderley next door neighbour died i was just about to leave my house for work all done up but realised something was wrong. A few hours laterwith police ambulances everyone turning up my house i was in a right state. Never got to work that day as everyone on the street wanted to be nearby and camped out in my house as she was much loved.
In floods of tears second half of episode, my dogs picked up on it and came to comfort me, bless them, ... I have always liked Deirdre and I think Anne Kirkbride did a very good job for the last 40years ... RIP Deirdre, RIP Anne .. I miss you xx
same here!!! and my dogs all gave me cuddles?? they know don't they
no need at all for sarah ever
hey I resent that!!!! ;-)
tammyy2j
09-07-2015, 16:16
I think that episode should have only been set in or around the Barlow house no need for other scenes featuring Callum, Sarah, Michelle, Erica, Michael and Andrea etc.,
The scene of Ken and her glasses and with Steve was heartbreaking
The mention of Deirdre's habit of calling her daughter "Tracyluv" was very poignant and quite funny at the same time.
I assume that Audrey was inserted into the Barlow scenes because she's going to be Ken's rock throughout his grief for Deirdre. I don't mind the idea of them getting together at some point but hope it doesn't happen any time soon.
Bev looked so immaculate not a hair out of place and make up. If i had found my friend dead a few hours before i would have been a wreck. When my elderley next door neighbour died i was just about to leave my house for work all done up but realised something was wrong. A few hours laterwith police ambulances everyone turning up my house i was in a right state. Never got to work that day as everyone on the street wanted to be nearby and camped out in my house as she was much loved.
It must have been a dreadful shock for you finding your neighbour dead. I'm not surprised you didn't manage to get to work that day. :(
kate ford's bad acting showing again, no need for sarah and callum
tammyy2j
09-07-2015, 23:37
I didn't like the door of the pub blowing open scene
Where did Emily go, I was expecting to see her with Tracy at the Barlow house, did Rita and Norris send her home alone upset
emily may have wanted to be alone or had to babysit, she is tracy's godmother she should have checked on her, why did steve phone michelle
I'm still finding it strange that the Barlows have yet to seek official confirmation of Deirdre's death. Just because they believe Bev doesn't mean they can even begin to process Deirdre's sudden death without proof. Nobody's spoken to the police or seen her body, or even mentioned doing so. I find it very odd. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/confused/smileys-confused-140297.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
It's been nice to hear Emily and Roy's early memories of Deirdre.
I don't approve of Leanne pushing Simon for a reaction to his nan's death. She needs to let him process it in his own time - or she'll provoke his anger. Maybe she's cottoned on to that by now... :wall:
Where did Emily go, I was expecting to see her with Tracy at the Barlow house, did Rita and Norris send her home alone upset
Rita took Emily home when she was so upset at the end of Wednesday's episode. She probably needed time to herself. :(
...why did steve phone michelle
He was being thoughtful and explaining why he'd disappeared.
So many things wrong again on this episode.. Nothing feels natural and I was expecting it would as the actress is actually gone in real life so all the emotions should be even stronger and more easily shown.. But no. Why did Carla have to join Roy to go and see Ken? She should have known better.. Without her Roy could have got to see Ken and he could have shared those memories with him instead with Carla and Cathy. .I felt sorry for Tracy but the moment was ruined by Liz. I was expecting her to squeeze her tight. Instead she went on saying how strong tracy must be now for ken and amy? ! I don't think that's the first thing to say right after someone losing their mom ! Yes - the door opening scene was really stupid !! I wish they did something more beautiful like deirdre appearing to tracy or something.. And all this nonsense about food in the pub?? Well we are still alive and must eat too!! No wonder corrie doesn't win any prizes these days.. pure rubbish!
And yes - totally wrong from leanne to expect simon to show emotion! Plus does anyone near him understand what he's been through?? Doesn't look like it
now deirdre had a tin with valuables to her and her funeral plan in a letter which tracy knew how?
parkerman
10-07-2015, 22:33
I'm shocked I tell you, absolutely shocked!
How is it possible for Roy of all people to make such a serious mistake?
The Emperor Penguin eggs brought back from Scott's expedition are not in The British Museum. They are in the Natural History Museum.
now deirdre had a tin with valuables to her and her funeral plan in a letter which tracy knew how?
I was shocked that Tracy opened the letter .. It said To Whom It May Concern but I think it should have been Ken not her to read the letter first :angry:
Everything about Deirdre's death-all acting included-feels so unnatural..! And so rushed! She only died on Wednesday, and unless she was a Catholic or Muslim or Hindu etc. she wouldn't be buried that quickly. Yes I know in soapland time goes faster but this is too fast.. They should have given it a week for everyone to come to terms with her death first..just slow down a bit. Now it just feels like they want to get rid of her and move on. Doesn't do justice for poor Anne :(
And yes-finding that tin so easily, and surprise surprise with a letter inside, was a joke! And then Tracy reading it, instead of Ken.. If they gave it bit more time, Ken could have gone through her things quietly and found it..and maybe Deirdre could have appeared to him while he was reading the letter by himself..that would have been very touching..Corrie really is going downhill..
Everything about Deirdre's death-all acting included-feels so unnatural..! And so rushed! She only died on Wednesday, and unless she was a Catholic or Muslim or Hindu etc. she wouldn't be buried that quickly. Yes I know in soapland time goes faster but this is too fast.. They should have given it a week for everyone to come to terms with her death first..just slow down a bit. Now it just feels like they want to get rid of her and move on. Doesn't do justice for poor Anne :(
And yes-finding that tin so easily, and surprise surprise with a letter inside, was a joke! And then Tracy reading it, instead of Ken.. If they gave it bit more time, Ken could have gone through her things quietly and found it..and maybe Deirdre could have appeared to him while he was reading the letter by himself..that would have been very touching..Corrie really is going downhill..
Why is Leanne annoying Dan all the time? I know they have a past, but when she said that she has changed, why couldn't Dan have done the same? They both may be totally different people now.
If anything happens to Leanne, I have no sympathy as she's brought it on herself.
Why is Leanne annoying Dan all the time? I know they have a past, but when she said that she has changed, why couldn't Dan have done the same? They both may be totally different people now.
If anything happens to Leanne, I have no sympathy as she's brought it on herself.
parkerman
11-07-2015, 10:26
It's not just that he used Leanne as a prostitute it is also that he was violent and I think she is very concerned for Liz.
When did Carla´s gambling addiction start?
Moving scenes at the Barlow house last night.
now deirdre had a tin with valuables to her and her funeral plan in a letter which tracy knew how?
Tracey said she knew Deirdre had a tin where she used to keep personal bits and bobs and thought it was worth looking. It was a bit contrived but not totally unrealistic that Deirdre would leave a letter containing her last wishes there.
Tracy had a nerve claiming to be a Christian! At least she had the grace to look ashamed when Yasmeen was so obviously still grief-stricken over Kal. Wouldn't it be lovely if the shock of Deirdre's death caused her to re-evaluate and confess her part in the fire. I won't hold my breath though. :wall:
I was surprised Carla held the poker game in the cafe knowing how much it'd hurt Roy. I suppose it was done to show how strong her addiction's becoming, but it would have been so easy for her to have found another location (the empty factory?) that it seemed out of character in my opinion. :searchme:
I'm shocked I tell you, absolutely shocked!
How is it possible for Roy of all people to make such a serious mistake?
The Emperor Penguin eggs brought back from Scott's expedition are not in The British Museum. They are in the Natural History Museum.
Scandalous! You should write a strongly worded letter of complaint to ITV and OFCOM! :D
Why is Leanne annoying Dan all the time? I know they have a past, but when she said that she has changed, why couldn't Dan have done the same? They both may be totally different people now.
The difference is Leanne wasn't hurting anyone. Men who are violent to woman are unlikely to change and, as Parkerman says, Leanne's concerned for Liz's safety.
When did Carla´s gambling addiction start?
Since the fire. It's happened fast but Carla has an addictive personality and is consumed by guilt, so I can believe she's become dependant on it so quickly.
So many things wrong again on this episode.. Nothing feels natural and I was expecting it would as the actress is actually gone in real life so all the emotions should be even stronger and more easily shown.. But no. Why did Carla have to join Roy to go and see Ken? She should have known better.. Without her Roy could have got to see Ken and he could have shared those memories with him instead with Carla and Cathy. .I felt sorry for Tracy but the moment was ruined by Liz. I was expecting her to squeeze her tight. Instead she went on saying how strong tracy must be now for ken and amy? ! I don't think that's the first thing to say right after someone losing their mom ! Yes - the door opening scene was really stupid !! I wish they did something more beautiful like deirdre appearing to tracy or something.. And all this nonsense about food in the pub?? Well we are still alive and must eat too!! No wonder corrie doesn't win any prizes these days.. pure rubbish!
my Mum sadly died in 2005, and I had to break the news to a neighbour -she patted my knee and told me I had to now be strong??!! it stopped me from grieving properly
my Mum sadly died in 2005, and I had to break the news to a neighbour -she patted my knee and told me I had to now be strong??!! it stopped me from grieving properly
I know people mean well when they say "be strong" but it can have a devastating effect, especially on the young. Burying your feelings is the worst thing you can do.
Sorry to hear about your mum. :(
now deirdre had a tin with valuables to her and her funeral plan in a letter which tracy knew how?
Tracy found the tin too quickly, I guess she'd rummaged through that previously. As you say she seemed very aware of its contents.
Tracy found the tin too quickly, I guess she'd rummaged through that previously. As you say she seemed very aware of its contents.
it seemed out of character that she would know of the tin and where to find it
Tracy found the tin too quickly, I guess she'd rummaged through that previously. As you say she seemed very aware of its contents.
it seemed out of character that she would know of the tin and where to find it
She has lived with her mum for many years and I don´t find it strange that she would know that Deirdre hat this tin..
parkerman
11-07-2015, 13:45
I agree. I can't see anything wrong with the tin episode at all. I think it not unreasonable at all that Tracy would have known about the tin nor that Deirdre would have written that note and left it in there. It was also not out of character that Tracy would be the one to open it up and read the note rather than Ken.
She has lived with her mum for many years and I don´t find it strange that she would know that Deirdre hat this tin..
tracy never showed much caring or interest in her parents or their possessions to me so that why i find it strange, in her way she does love them but her tough bitchiness makes it out of character for her to know about and find the tin
She has lived with her mum for many years and I don´t find it strange that she would know that Deirdre hat this tin..
tracy never showed much caring or interest in her parents or their possessions to me so that why i find it strange, in her way she does love them but her tough bitchiness makes it out of character for her to know about and find the tin
She has lived with her mum for many years and I don´t find it strange that she would know that Deirdre hat this tin..
I agree. They didn't get the tin thinking that there would be a list there, just on the offchance, so I didn't see anything wrong with it.
Sarah doesn't know how to change a barrel? How long has she worked there? Now that was contrived.
The reason I felt the letter in the tin incident was slightly contrived was more because of the speed at which it all happened, rather than Tracey knowing about the existence of the tin or Deirdre leaving a letter containing her last wishes in it. Tracy did initially say the tin might be in the loft but then found it within a couple of minutes while the vicar was there.
parkerman
11-07-2015, 14:08
True, but Tracy didn't actually know where it was so if she did happen to look on top of the wardrobe and that's where it was she'd find it. I still can't see anything wrong with the episode at all.
True, but Tracy didn't actually know where it was so if she did happen to look on top of the wardrobe and that's where it was she'd find it. I still can't see anything wrong with the episode at all.
Well, Tracy knew there was a tin and Tracy being Tracy she surely wouldn't have been able to resist having a nose inside. As far as running up and down a flight of stairs going straight to the bedroom , getting the tin off the top of the wardrobe,so quickly, is stretching it a bit. Particularly when she thought it was in the loft.
The reason I felt the letter in the tin incident was slightly contrived was more because of the speed at which it all happened, rather than Tracey knowing about the existence of the tin or Deirdre leaving a letter containing her last wishes in it. Tracy did initially say the tin might be in the loft but then found it within a couple of minutes while the vicar was there.
Ah yes, true. The usual soap cliche of person finds something in the first place they look.
Now folks where else but Soapboards can you have a debate about a tin, in Corrie ,on a Saturday afternoon. Don't you just love it.:cheer:
parkerman
11-07-2015, 14:56
She had to look somewhere first and it's just as likely that the tin would be in the first place she looked as the last.
Now folks where else but Soapboards can you have a debate about a tin, in Corrie ,on a Saturday afternoon. Don't you just love it.:cheer:
I do love it, very much. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/dancing/smileys-dancing-176278.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
I don´t think it is unusual for some people to have a tin like that, I know a few in my family that have and I would immediately look under the bed, in a wardrobe or on top of a wardrobe if I was looking for it ... followed by loft or cellar if there is one. And yes, I love this debate too :D:thumbsup:
maidmarian
11-07-2015, 15:30
I don´t think it is unusual for some people to have a tin like that, I know a few in my family that have and I would immediately look under the bed, in a wardrobe or on top of a wardrobe if I was looking for it ... followed by loft or cellar if there is one. And yes, I love this debate too :D:thumbsup:
Its just the right subject for a Saturday pm.!
Im from a "tinny" family too.!
One exception was a great-aunt who hid
loads of things over the years in her late
husbands enormous greatcoat!! in wardrobe
in spare bedroom. She also used to tie her
pension for the week in a ( clean) hankie
and hide it under one of her many mats.
It was like having moles indoors!!
The other was one of my grandads died
when I was a small child. Several of the
grown- ups were convinced that there must
be more money somewhere!
Floorboards came up etc - searched for
long time and just about to give up
when my Uncle picked up an Old Testament
- gave it a shake and a lot of old white £5
notes fluttered to the floor.And Grandad wasn't
religiious as far as I know.!!
maidmarian
11-07-2015, 15:30
Dupl
tammyy2j
11-07-2015, 22:10
I don't like the part that Deirdre stayed away so long because of Tracy's affair with Tony, how many bad things has Tracy done in the past and Deirdre always stood by her even if Liz is her best friend Tracy is her daughter so would come first
I think parts of the storyline for Deirdre's death and aftermath has been written hastily, without thought and rushed, Anne and her character Deirdre was such a big part of the show she deserved better
Did Ken and Tracy visit Deirdre's body in the morgue?
I don't mind the idea of her tin but would have preferred Ken found it on his own
Carla should not have gone round with Roy to see Ken and Tracy given her history with Tracy, I wanted a nice scene between Roy and Ken reminiscing also more scenes of older characters remembering Deirdre would have been nice, we have a few good emotional sad scenes with Ken with her glasses and with Steve and also Emily breaking down in the pub but for me most has been bad so far maybe next week will be better
tammyy2j
11-07-2015, 22:10
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I don't like the part that Deirdre stayed away so long because of Tracy's affair with Tony, how many bad things has Tracy done in the past and Deirdre always stood by her even if Liz is her best friend Tracy is her daughter so would come first
What I find strange about that excuse is that the affair was only revealed a few weeks ago. Deirdre's earlier long absence hasn't been explained at all. If they couldn't think of a reasonable explanation, I think it would have been best not to mention it.
maidmarian
11-07-2015, 22:35
What I find strange about that excuse is that the affair was only revealed a few weeks ago. Deirdre's earlier long absence hasn't been explained at all. If they couldn't think of a reasonable explanation, I think it would have been best not to mention it.
I thought that the fact that the affair had upset
Deirdre so much and she had then died- was
supposed to make Tracy feel-conscience-stricken
( some hope) and begin the process of her
rehabilation. But its not really been thought
through- apart from supposed effect on Tracy.
Time- spans not right!!
maidmarian
11-07-2015, 22:35
Dupl
after trifle throw she left over peter but stayed longer for bev at least that's how i saw it as she could have returned after the trial when peter left (i know difficult with anne's death)
When is this court case about custody for Max going to be? I am so fed up with the rather pathetic attempts to trick Callum ... Never going to work, surely if David and Kylie get their relationship stable and solid again, they would stand a much better chance of gaining custody than playing games.....:wall: Court cases get heard quickly in soaps so I hope the hearing is going to be soon ..
What I find strange about that excuse is that the affair was only revealed a few weeks ago. Deirdre's earlier long absence hasn't been explained at all. If they couldn't think of a reasonable explanation, I think it would have been best not to mention it.
exactly, how did deidre know about the afair? until just a couple of weeks ago, no one knew about it?
I don't see anything strange about that..Friends share things and I would imagine Liz had talked with her on the phone.
But the whole Deirdre being away for months-thing is strange though..especially when she was still quite near and yet she didn't attend to her daughter's wedding, or when Peter came out of prison..or most surprisingly-when Amy was in danger. They should have written her abroad for a long holiday with Bev - would have explained her absence better.
I don't see anything strange about that..Friends share things and I would imagine Liz had talked with her on the phone.
But the whole Deirdre being away for months-thing is strange though..especially when she was still quite near and yet she didn't attend to her daughter's wedding, or when Peter came out of prison..or most surprisingly-when Amy was in danger. They should have written her abroad for a long holiday with Bev - would have explained her absence better.
But all in all, the whole Deirdre's death and aftermath has so far been really disappointing..bad acting from everyone, and even more so, very stupid writing.
I am so fed up with the rather pathetic attempts to trick Callum ...
The stupid thing is that David used to be an evil genius (and a very entertaining one at that) who could have easily outwitted the ludicrous Callum - so why is he acting like such a doormat?
But all in all, the whole Deirdre's death and aftermath has so far been really disappointing..bad acting from everyone, and even more so, very stupid writing.
As far as the acting goes, it must have been terrible to act those scenes when Anne was such a dear friend to all of them (Beverly Callard was actually with Anne when she died). Therefore, I think we need to cut them some slack if they weren't up to their usual standards.
maidmarian
13-07-2015, 17:30
The stupid thing is that David used to be an evil genius (and a very entertaining one at that) who could have easily outwitted the ludicrous Callum - so why is he acting like such a doormat?
***Reply**
I will admit freely I dont like David- not because
he is " evil" but because he is repititiously boring
and pulls very childish facial expressions
He was ok.as a 12 year old but hasnt really
matured and is now mid 20s.
A lot of people like him and find him
amusing and the producers have relied on
the character to have one of his "episodes"
to raise the viewing figures on several
occasions. Perhaps this is an attempt to
make up more mature but doesnt seem to
be working.I think they need to involve
some medical experts for that.
As far as the acting goes, it must have been terrible to act those scenes when Anne was such a dear friend to all of them (Beverly Callard was actually with Anne when she died). Therefore, I think we need to cut them some slack if they weren't up to their usual standards.
I agree - I think there have been unrealistic
expectations for the storyline and people
should just be sorry that Anne/ Dierdre
has died at a much younger age than
should be expected . Anne was ill for some
time and the outcome was uncertain and
then there was her familys grief.
At the end of a day an actor is a person
first and an actor second- no matter how
popular and respected.
It would have been heart- breaking for
her true friends on the soap especially
Beverley Callard to act those scenes.
Its been written and filmed now- so
it should be accepted as a tribute(albeit
an imperfect one) !
maidmarian
13-07-2015, 17:30
Dupl
Perhaps this is an attempt to
make up more mature but doesnt seem to
be working.I think they need to involve
some medical experts for that.
Your intense dislike of David always makes me laugh! http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-rolleye-smileys-842.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html)
As far as the acting goes, it must have been terrible to act those scenes when Anne was such a dear friend to all of them (Beverly Callard was actually with Anne when she died). Therefore, I think we need to cut them some slack if they weren't up to their usual standards.
i thought given she was such a close friend they would want to do her and the show proud with some damn fine stellar acting work
As far as the acting goes, it must have been terrible to act those scenes when Anne was such a dear friend to all of them (Beverly Callard was actually with Anne when she died). Therefore, I think we need to cut them some slack if they weren't up to their usual standards.
i thought given she was such a close friend they would want to do her and the show proud with some damn fine stellar acting work
i thought given she was such a close friend they would want to do her and the show proud with some damn fine stellar acting work
No one can do their best work when distressed and barely holding it together.
Acting is still their work, and Corrie is a soap with a long history. They should be able to do it better. I think the main reason is that it's all been written so poorly-rushed,too many interruptions and strange explanations for events. I'm disappointed in this storyline, and so many others these days. It has to get better or unfortunately it's finished..it won't survive.
Acting is still their work, and Corrie is a soap with a long history. They should be able to do it better. I think the main reason is that it's all been written so poorly-rushed,too many interruptions and strange explanations for events. I'm disappointed in this storyline, and so many others these days. It has to get better or unfortunately it's finished..it won't survive.
I agree Corrie's nowhere near as compelling as it can be at the moment, and hasn't been for a couple of years now.
However, I for one will be cutting the whole Corrie team a lot of slack for the Deirdre's death episodes because I know they must have been suffering horribly while filming. There must also have been huge pressure on the writers of the episodes too.
parkerman
13-07-2015, 19:17
I do think it has more to do with the writing than the acting. A lot of the storyline hasn't rung true and it must have been difficult for the actors to make a good job of it.
I guess it also does not help when characters fall ill, you never know how long it takes for them to recover depending on illness and when female characters get pregnant and have to be written out for a certain amount of time to cover maternity leave...some storylines will have had to be re-written at short notice and depending on where the character featured in a storyline is, it can´t be easy to make it always more realistic to true life
yes the writing can be blamed and how is norris missing this funeral
simon asking steve he thought he had depression :p so did everyone
And now -totally out of character from Ken to be so cruel towards Tracy. Bit too harsh, whatever the reason for deirdre being away extra few weeks. Why didn't Ken go &visit her? I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have or as a married couple that deirdre wouldn't have told Ken on the phone that she's ashamed of Tracy's affair with Tony (what a stupid reason anyway, Tracy has done far worse over the years and deirdre herself too..). Poor writing, that's it. I haven't cried once during this deirdre death -storyline, that says something. And deirdre was my favourite character ��
And now -totally out of character from Ken to be so cruel towards Tracy. Bit too harsh, whatever the reason for deirdre being away extra few weeks. Why didn't Ken go &visit her? I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have or as a married couple that deirdre wouldn't have told Ken on the phone that she's ashamed of Tracy's affair with Tony (what a stupid reason anyway, Tracy has done far worse over the years and deirdre herself too..). Poor writing, that's it. I haven't cried once during this deirdre death -storyline, that says something. And deirdre was my favourite character 😢
How did Bethany know her way to the Dog and Gun? Has she even been there before?
parkerman
13-07-2015, 20:43
Perhaps she Googled it.
and now norris shows up for wake spread
maidmarian
13-07-2015, 21:29
Dupl
parkerman
13-07-2015, 22:48
Having said that I didn't think much of the writing over the last week or so, I have to say I think the wake was excellent. I loved the exchange between Liz and Eileen about who was Liz's best friend. "Well, you are now.":lol:
And now -totally out of character from Ken to be so cruel towards Tracy. Bit too harsh, whatever the reason for deirdre being away extra few weeks. Why didn't Ken go &visit her? I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have or as a married couple that deirdre wouldn't have told Ken on the phone that she's ashamed of Tracy's affair with Tony (what a stupid reason anyway, Tracy has done far worse over the years and deirdre herself too..). Poor writing, that's it. I haven't cried once during this deirdre death -storyline, that says something. And deirdre was my favourite character 😢
yes both liz and deirdre have had affairs in the past
tammyy2j
14-07-2015, 00:22
Having said that I didn't think much of the writing over the last week or so, I have to say I think the wake was excellent. I loved the exchange between Liz and Eileen about who was Liz's best friend. "Well, you are now.":lol:
For me the best was from Simon and Amy
Who were the two older ladies who took all the food in the pub Emily knew them, were the friends of Blanche's?
I thought the funeral episodes were very good - both the acting and writing. Ken's eulogy was exceptional and very moving. I also really enjoyed Ken and Amy's scene in the kitchen (thank goodness she's not completely her mother's daughter after all!), and there were some lovely touches like Blanche's One O'clock Club friends and Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water.
I would have preferred the funeral not be intercut with scenes in the Dog and Gun, and to not have to witness Tracy and Robert slobbering all over each other, but I was pleasantly surprised by the overall quality of the episodes.
Its been written and filmed now- so
it should be accepted as a tribute(albeit
an imperfect one) !
I think you're absolutely right. It hasn't been perfect, but the main gist had been that Deirdre was dearly loved and will be much missed by all. I'm sure Anne Kirkbride would have been more than happy with that.
I know Ken's being hypocritical about Tracey's affair, but it's a very emotive time. He didn't say much when the affair was first revealed after all. Nobody reacts well under duress, and he was understandably upset that Tracy's behaviour kept Deirdre away longer. Ken isn't blinkered about Tracy like Deirdre was; he knows how selfish she is and that Deirdre's feelings about her daughter's affair with her best friend's partner would have meant nothing to Tracy.
Plus the truth is we all look for others to blame sometimes. Maybe he feels guilty deep down about spending so much time apart from Deirdre and is lashing out as a consequence. He's obviously not coping, and as far as I'm concerned Tracy deserves all she gets. She paid scant attention to her mother's feelings when she was alive.
I'm looking forward to seeing Peter now. I wonder if Chris Gascoigne was unavailable to film the funeral scenes?
Who were the two older ladies who took all the food in the pub Emily knew them, were the friends of Blanche's?
yes they were members of the one o'clock club Blanche used to go to. They as a group used to gate crash funerals just for a trip out??!!
yes they were members of the one o'clock club Blanche used to go to. They as a group used to gate crash funerals just for a trip out??!!
Yes, that is right Sarah :)
yes they were members of the one o'clock club Blanche used to go to. They as a group used to gate crash funerals just for a trip out??!!
Yes, that is right Sarah :)
I've been reading through couple of discussions/comment sections in different papers on Facebook, and generally viewers are really disappointed on this Deirdre-storyline, and the funeral.
I'm not surprised at all...
I've been reading through couple of discussions/comment sections in different papers on Facebook, and generally viewers are really disappointed on this Deirdre-storyline, and the funeral.
I'm not surprised at all...
I've been reading through couple of discussions/comment sections in different papers on Facebook, and generally viewers are really disappointed on this Deirdre-storyline, and the funeral.
I'm not surprised at all...
but the loss of Anne, and Deidre was such a big issue and saddened so many people, that they were never going to be able to do it justice? no matter how hard they tried?
I was sceptical to say the least about Peter's missing the funeral, but I actually really enjoyed the funeral episodes. The only parts I didn't like were Billy (could they not have got an actor back who played a vicar who knew her?); Ken and Tracy. His cold attitude in the house was understandable I felt, but he took it a bit far in the church. Plus Carla's non-attendance. Her gambling addiction isn't that bad yet surely; Sophie and the Nazirs weren't there that I noticed (Sophie definitely wasn't.)
I think the pacing has let it down - she hasn't been dead a week and she's already been buried! It's been pretty full on through the episodes since then, so although it's better than poor Jim Branning who hardly got any focus, it could have been better. I think also they shouldn't have released so many details so early. It seems ages ago that we heard about the returns of Bev and Robert. Perhaps having been anticipating something for so long, some degree of disappointment was inevitable.
Edit: And the clapping. It's a funeral, not a speech about the works of Charles Dickens! Oh, and we had three Maddie mentions, but not a direct mention of Kal.
I wish they had focused more on the funeral though and wish they had kept Bethany´s shenanigans for another episode. I also found the clapping at the end of Ken´s eulogy a bit strange, I guess maybe they were applauding Deirdre rather than Ken´s speech?
parkerman
14-07-2015, 16:15
I have heard applause after euologies at funerals. And you're right, Perdy, it is really for the deceased.
I guess the idea of Peter missing the funeral is going to play some significant part in upcoming episodes. It has already had an effect on Simon and maybe there will be something about who caused Ken and Deirdre more grief, Tracy or Peter? I can't think it was just because Chris was unavailable for the episode, if it was he would probably have been left out altogether.
Tracy was out of order. Cannot believe what she was planning when her mum iwas not even cold in her grave
Ruffed_lemur
14-07-2015, 16:50
Tracy was out of order. Cannot believe what she was planning when her mum iwas not even cold in her grave
I didn't see the big deal in that tbh. Announcer said before the episode "all time low" for Tracy. I thought murder was her worst?!
I've been reading through couple of discussions/comment sections in different papers on Facebook, and generally viewers are really disappointed on this Deirdre-storyline, and the funeral.
From what I've been reading elsewhere, what most people are unhappy about is the intercutting of Deirdre's death episodes with the Callum/Sarah/Bethany story. I think we're all agreed that was intrusive and ruined the atmosphere at certain moments.
Corrie never solely focus on one story as Eastenders does, and I think that's fine. Unfortunately, the silly Callum storyline just felt completely out of place running alongside Deirdre's funeral. Personally, I found cutting from Deirdre's photo (when the congregation was singing), to Bethany downing shots in the Dog and Gun particularly jarring.
The only parts I didn't like were Billy (could they not have got an actor back who played a vicar who knew her?); Ken and Tracy. His cold attitude in the house was understandable I felt, but he took it a bit far in the church. Plus Carla's non-attendance. Her gambling addiction isn't that bad yet surely; Sophie and the Nazirs weren't there that I noticed (Sophie definitely wasn't.)
Sophie was mentioned several times as being unable to face the funeral so soon after Maddie's. The same probably goes for Carla - we we saw her walk away quickly as if she couldn't cope. No doubt she went gambling to try and soothe her anxiety.
As far as Billy goes, surely it's normal for the vicar in residence to hold the funerals?
I think the pacing has let it down - she hasn't been dead a week and she's already been buried!
We don't actually know how many days later the funeral was held. Soaps often obfuscate their timelimes by not teling viewers how much time has passed. I assume it was done that way because the Corrie team wanted a week or so of consecutive episodes that concentrated on Deirdre.
I guess the idea of Peter missing the funeral is going to play some significant part in upcoming episodes. It has already had an effect on Simon and maybe there will be something about who caused Ken and Deirdre more grief, Tracy or Peter? I can't think it was just because Chris was unavailable for the episode, if it was he would probably have been left out altogether.
I don't think there's any way they would have left Peter out if Chris was willing to do a few days' filming, even if he couldn't make the funeral scenes. I'm sure they'd find a way to write around his schedule if at all possible. Whether that's what's happened is impossible to say though.
tammyy2j
14-07-2015, 17:19
Was Robert's return only planned after Anne died so Deirdre was too?
I found his return and get together with Tracy were rushed and tasteless
I found his return and get together with Tracy were rushed and tasteless
It was meant to be tasteless going by Ken's reaction, but I could have done without the scene personally. Perhaps it was done to quell any sympathy viewers might have for Tracy over her mother's death?
parkerman
14-07-2015, 17:41
As I think most of you will know I am not Tracy's greatest fan on here....however, I do feel compelled to actually give her some support over her "scene" with Robert. She was feeling desperately alone and unhappy. Her mother had died and the only father she had really known had rejected her at the funeral, a very vulnerable time for her. She must have been desperate for some love and affection and there was her ex-husband, someone she had presumably loved and maybe still had feelings for, willing to comfort her (and more!) I don't think it is at all unreasonable that Tracy should have wanted to "get close".
As I think most of you will know I am not Tracy's greatest fan on here....however, I do feel compelled to actually give her some support over her "scene" with Robert. She was feeling desperately alone and unhappy. Her mother had died and the only father she had really known had rejected her at the funeral, a very vulnerable time for her. She must have been desperate for some love and affection and there was her ex-husband, someone she had presumably loved and maybe still had feelings for, willing to comfort her (and more!) I don't think it is at all unreasonable that Tracy should have wanted to "get close".
I'd agree with you if we were talking about anyone else Parkerman. :D
However, as far as I'm concerned Tracy wasn't desperately upset or lonely because she's not capable of deep feelings. Moreover, the scene didn't come across to me as two people comforting each other, but instead as two people overcome by lust.
deirdre's death is all about tracy
Tracy and Robert scene was ok for me, I just wished Ken wouldn't have seen it..
I think it was especially cruel from Ken to accuse Tracy crying crocodile tears!! For goodness sake! Deirdre was her mum, and they did love and care for each other! As educated as Ken pretends to be, he should know better!
He should have held back as it was her mums funeral. But she did act inappropriately later and agree it it was more about lust than comfort. This women is not normal. She smirks when she sees buildings on fire
As educated as Ken pretends to be, he should know better!
Unfortunately, a good education doesn't mean a person has emotional intelligence. In a fraught situation it's all too easy for people to say and do things they'd usually leave unsaid.
Anyway, whatever the rights and wrongs of Ken and Tracy's behaviour, no doubt all will be forgiven soon enough. I'll remain team Ken no matter how vile he is to the psycho murderer though! :D
I agree with parkerman on the subject of Tracy feeling lonely and she is grieving for her mum, people can do silly things at a time like this and I think Tracy trying it on with Robert was an act due to her grieving, don´t think even lust came into it much, she probably just needed somebody to hold her for a bit and trying to get him into bed would have achieved that ... Ken too is grieving and saying things to Tracy he will later regret, I am sure.
I don't want to defend Tracy's past actions or behavior in any way-I agree there's something totally wrong with her personality. BUT-whatever she's done, whoever she's hurt in the past-Deirdre was still her mum, and Tracy still knew her the best, even better than Ken. Deirdre was the only person who loved her unconditionally and maybe one of the very few that Tracy really loved too.
Rather than finding a letter about funeral arrangements, I would have liked to see Tracy finding a letter from her mum to herself. I think that would have been expected too when she stayed away longer because of being ashamed of her(stupid reason..but hey..)-she could have been writing her thoughts down on the paper.
I don't want to defend Tracy's past actions or behavior in any way-I agree there's something totally wrong with her personality. BUT-whatever she's done, whoever she's hurt in the past-Deirdre was still her mum, and Tracy still knew her the best, even better than Ken. Deirdre was the only person who loved her unconditionally and maybe one of the very few that Tracy really loved too.
Rather than finding a letter about funeral arrangements, I would have liked to see Tracy finding a letter from her mum to herself. I think that would have been expected too when she stayed away longer because of being ashamed of her(stupid reason..but hey..)-she could have been writing her thoughts down on the paper.
Regarding Deirdre's death storyline..I was thinking the other day-did we need Deirdre's funeral? Maybe she could have moved to Canada with Ken or something. As much loved as Barlows, and Ken are-what are they(writers) going to do with him now anyway?? It's just sad to see that family now without Deirdre so maybe it would have been better to change everything..Ken&Deirdre abroad, burn down the house and re-decorate it for Tracy&Amy etc.
Wow..I can't believe the posters lining up to defend Tracy! :D
Sorry, but to me she'll always be a cold-blooded murderer who's shown no remorse whatsoever for Charlie's death; indeed, she's even joked about it! Then again recently, she was responsible for two deaths and shown little emotion about it. She's not only allowed Carla to take the blame, she's actively spread the rumours that encouraged it! Only a couple of weeks ago, she delighted in ruining Liz's life by gloating about her affair with Tony. As far as Deirdre goes, it's absolutely true that her mother was the only person who loved her unconditionally, but Tracy didn't show her the same love or respect.
Tracy's past colours her present and future in my eyes. She's been written for years as someone who's not capable of remorse, guilt or real love. She uses and manipulates people to her own end without caring about the effect on them (and that includes her close family). Remember, she sold her daughter to Roy and Hayley!
Therefore, there's no way that I'm going to be persuaded that Tracy's the kind of person who's going to be deeply distressed at the loss of her mother, no matter how those scenes are written or acted. Lizann puts it perfectly above: Deirdre's death is all about Tracy.
If the writers use Deirdre's death to try to redeem Tracy, there's no way I'll find it believable. Leopards like Tracy do not change their spots in real life.
parkerman
15-07-2015, 12:04
I'm not trying to defend Tracy as such and I agree with you, Dazzle, about her nature in general. All I was saying, in response to others who had posted on here about Tracy's lack of feeling by ripping off Robert's clothes on the day of her mother's funeral, was that I think there was good reason for it. And I do think that even Tracy had feelings for her mother and felt deeply hurt by Ken's rejection at such a time. We might say well it's nothing less than she deserves. That's as maybe and I wouldn't disagree with that, but I can see why she would want to seek love, affection and comfort with Robert and not purely as an uncaring selfish act.
I don't deny that Tracy has some feelings about the death of her mother, I just don't believe they're feelings you or I would class as "deep". They're more about her loss than about Deirdre herself.
As I feared Kate Ford says about Tracy: "I think she's a lot more humble these days. Because she feels a sense of loss about Rob and now Deirdre, she is going to show a kinder, more human side"
Taken from: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-07-14/tracy-barlow-will-be-kinder-and-more-human-following-the-death-of-deirdre-says-coronation-street-star-kate-ford
They can write Tracy as a changed person all they like, but I know that characters like her don't change in real life and I'm not going to start sympathising with her any time soon. Maybe if she confessed to Charlie's cold-blooded murder and her part in Kal and Maddie's deaths, and served a real prison sentence, then I'd be convinced of a change of heart - but we all know that won't happen.
Tracy is Deirdre's daughter-in good and bad. We have to remember that Deirdre wasn't an angel either..
I've said this and say it once more-I think Tracy genuinely loved/ misses her mum, I don't agree with some comments that she wouldn't be capable for such feelings. Of course she is. For Deirdre, Amy anyway..and Ken and Peter&Si too. She loves her family-and she did love Rob(I hate they had to split them up and make Rob the murderer). But it's her darker side, that need for revenge when things go wrong..that's when she changes her colours. But of course-it wouldn't be interesting if she was good and a model citizen. :)
Tracy is Deirdre's daughter-in good and bad. We have to remember that Deirdre wasn't an angel either..
I've said this and say it once more-I think Tracy genuinely loved/misses her mum, I don't agree with some comments that she wouldn't be capable for such feelings. Of course she is. For Deirdre, Amy anyway..and Ken and Peter&Si too. She loves her family-and she did love Rob(I hate they had to split them up and make Rob the murderer). But it's her darker side, that need for revenge when things go wrong..that's when she changes her colours. But of course-it wouldn't be interesting if she was good and a model citizen. :)
Tracy treated Deirdre like dirt a lot of the time, and often delighted in mocking her and being spiteful to her just like she does everyone else. She went out of her way to hurt her, without provocation, many times.
Deirdre wasn't an angel but she wasn't deliberately cruel. Tracy spends her whole life saying the cruellest thing possible because she enjoys the hurt she causes. She isn't even just outspoken like Blanche was: hurting people is her favourite pastime. She's a sadist.
Her dark side is there in virtually every day-to-day interaction, it's not something that only comes out when she feels wronged. Remember how she spitefully mocked a dying Hayley? It's part of her core personality, and that's why I'll never believe she can change. People like her just don't; the prison system's full of them and no psychiatric help can change them.
Snagglepus
15-07-2015, 13:37
Tracy was only ripping Roberts clothes off because she was after a s**g, she is the street bike, didn't she once give David Platt a ride.
don't you see Tracey as damaged goods? and she has never truly been loved by anyone but Deidre? so she uses attack as the best form of defence?
people are going to let her down so get in and hurt them first sort of thing?
I am not a fan nor a hater but the psyche is an interesting one
I disagree, she did not hurt to protect herself when she tricked Roy Cropper into her bed and claimed she was pregnant by him and when she demanded 20.000 quid for handing the baby over to Roy and Hayley....She did not hurt to protect herself when she claimed Becky pushed her down the stairs causing her to have a miscarriage or by getting Tony to cheat on Liz and then try to get the Rovers for herself ...and lots of other things she has done over the years that were downright nasty but uncalled for...
Tracy was only ripping Roberts clothes off because she was after a s**g, she is the street bike, didn't she once give David Platt a ride.
She teased him but they never did it in the end
don't you see Tracey as damaged goods? and she has never truly been loved by anyone but Deidre? so she uses attack as the best form of defence?
I simply don't think that's true Sarah. Ken isn't blind to her faults but he loved her enough to adopt her, and I doubt he's going to chuck her out of the house even though he's been so angry with her. He's forgiven her many a past wrong. She's a daughter to him, and I've no doubt he'll soon forgive her for upsetting Deirdre by having the affair with Tony.
Her first husband, Robert, loved her but they finished because she cheated on him (he obviously still has strong feelings for her). Rob loved her but in the end she put herself first by shopping him to the police (for which she ludicrously blames Carla). Amy loves her too, as did Blanche and Peter.
In fact, Tracy's actually luckier than most in that she had someone in her life who loved her so deeply she forgave anything - no matter how heinous. Deirdre knew that Tracy planned and committed a totally unprovoked murder for which she has no remorse and hasn't been punished, but she forgave her for it. Tracy's now lost that support so of course she's deeply unhappy, but she was incredibly fortunate to have it in the first place.
She's had plenty of love and is far less damaged than many soap characters who don't turn into cruel, remorseless, cold-blooded killers. Tracey has a personality disorder (probably anti-social, aka sociopathy/psychopathy) and such things can't be fixed in real life. If anything, the death of someone they "love" makes them even more bitter, cruel and determined to punish the world.
There are many damaged characters in fiction who I sympathise with, often despite myself. However, Tracey's long-term sadistic glee in hurting others (usually unprovoked) precludes me from feeling the slightest sympathy for her no matter how the writers try to redeem her.
Snagglepus
15-07-2015, 16:53
She teased him but they never did it in the end
Tracy is released on bail and David Platt (Jack P. Shepherd) gives the police a statement, claiming to have witnessed the murder in return for sleeping with Tracy, which she does, desperate to avoid going to prison.
On 30 December 2010, after Tracy has complained to Deirdre, Ken and Peter about being deprived of sex, David Platt confronts her at home about her conduct towards his mother. After a bitter argument, Tracy seduces David. Shortly afterward, Tracy sleeps with Nick Tilsley (Ben Price); they are discovered by Leanne Battersby (Jane Danson).
Snagglepus
15-07-2015, 16:53
Duplicate.
Tracy is released on bail and David Platt (Jack P. Shepherd) gives the police a statement, claiming to have witnessed the murder in return for sleeping with Tracy, which she does, desperate to avoid going to prison.
On 30 December 2010, after Tracy has complained to Deirdre, Ken and Peter about being deprived of sex, David Platt confronts her at home about her conduct towards his mother. After a bitter argument, Tracy seduces David. Shortly afterward, Tracy sleeps with Nick Tilsley (Ben Price); they are discovered by Leanne Battersby (Jane Danson).
I can't remember that at all. I must have blotted it out of my memory... :sick:
I must have blotted that out too ... thanks Snagglepus for correcting my memory :)
maidmarian
15-07-2015, 17:30
I can't remember that at all. I must have blotted it out of my memory... :sick:
You are very fortunate Dazzle!!
maidmarian
15-07-2015, 17:31
Dupl
maidmarian
15-07-2015, 17:35
I must have blotted that out too ... thanks Snagglepus for correcting my memory :)
Thats 2 fortunate posters then Perdita.
Its branded on my memory!
Excuse me please- whilst I look for
anti-nausea tablet!
maidmarian
15-07-2015, 17:35
Dupl
Didn't Peter think to call/text to let anyone know that his train had been delayed and he would be there as soon as possible? Or did I miss something that he'd lost his phone etc?
They were all in church and would have had their phones switched off !
Good night Deirdre, RIP xxx :(
Didn't Peter think to call/text to let anyone know that his train had been delayed and he would be there as soon as possible? Or did I miss something that he'd lost his phone etc?
yes he could have called or texted
did peter's words have a change for the better effect on tracy
tammyy2j
15-07-2015, 20:58
I enjoyed tonight's episode but felt it should have been an hour long
Has Bev always disliked Audrey or is she picking up the closeness now between Ken and Audrey?
Emily was a good fun drunk, played it well :p
peter's excuse for being late was pretty lame as said why didn't he ring anyone
parkerman
15-07-2015, 22:37
peter's excuse for being late was pretty lame as said why didn't he ring anyone
The excuse itself wasn't lame, I can quite imagine it happening just like he said. However, yes, he should have let someone know.
Tonight's episode was very enjoyable and a perfect tribute to Deirdre. She'd have been so pleased to see her family at peace. I don't think anyone will be surprised that I thoroughly enjoyed Ken and Peter's dressing down of Tracy. :D (Mind you, they deserved to hear some home truths too!)
I'm glad they remembered Peter's often been able to get through to his sister when others have failed. I've really missed him. :(
I'd be highly sceptical of Tracy's claim that she's going to change if it wasn't for the fact that I know the writers are going to try and redeem her. Be warned writers - us viewers have very long memories. :nono:
The older generation telling tales of Deirdre's colourful love life was entertaining and poignant. I must admit to feeling very tearful at Liz's toast and Ken's final goodnight. :crying:
Has Bev always disliked Audrey or is she picking up the closeness now between Ken and Audrey?
I think they were friends until the Fred incident. It was nice to see them bury the hatchet; I've really enjoyed seeing Bev again.
parkerman
15-07-2015, 23:57
I think they were friends until the Fred incident. It was nice to see them bury the hatchet; I've really enjoyed seeing Bev again.
Yes, that's how I remember it. They were friends, which is why she felt all the more betrayed over Fred.
tammyy2j
16-07-2015, 00:54
Yes, that's how I remember it. They were friends, which is why she felt all the more betrayed over Fred.
What happened with Fred again, I say I say what happened :p did he dump one of then or cheat with the other
tammyy2j
16-07-2015, 00:54
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maidmarian
16-07-2015, 01:55
What happened with Fred again, I say I say what happened :p did he dump one of then or cheat with the other
Well.Tammy , pay attention, pay attention
I say And I'll tell thee.
Fred was due to marry Bev, marry Bev , yes
he was but then Audrey says as how she
wouldnt mind marrying him. Fast madam
thats what Audrey is a right fast Madam.
So Fred starts thinking ,thinking, I say and
doesn't know what to do.!!
So he goes round to.see Audrey ont morning
of wedding for a chat - a chat thats what.
And after that- he thinks Well suppose
better marry Bev , marry Bev, yes
. Marry her after all.
And as he leaving Audreys - he drops down
dead - dead as a door nail Im telling you.
In the hall.
Shows what comes of having two women
yes ,two.women ont go.
Not up.to it Not up to it - wasnt Fred.
And then that Bev she takes against
Audrey yes she does and blames her -she does.
Bit of a misery Id say- well I would -
all fair in love and butchery all fair that's
what I always say !!
maidmarian
16-07-2015, 01:55
Dupl
Excellent continuity in this episode.
Thanks maidmarian i had forgotton all that. How do you all remember these things amazing as there is too much remember. I hav'nt watched last nights episode will catch it today.
It was the best of Deirdre episodes last night. It should have been an hour long though, and half of it could have been still from the funeral..and no other storylines.
While they were sharing memories about Deirdre, 1 or 2 old video clips would have been good idea..just to bring her closer once more.
I enjoyed the heated arguments in the Barlow household too. Deirdre and Ken has had few of those over the years too ;)
I thoroughly enjoyed Tracy's words to Ken, he deserved to get something back after what he said to her at the funeral. It wasn't the time and place, and Deirdre wouldn't have been happy about Ken's picking on Tracy either.
Shame on Peter! How did he dare to go and judge Tracy as a parent???!!!
And I say this as a fan of Peter.
I think the change happened too fast..from argument to sweet smiles and cups of tea.
And I say again-Simon should be with his dad now, wherever he goes. If that's what Simon wants.
It was the best of Deirdre episodes last night. It should have been an hour long though, and half of it could have been still from the funeral..and no other storylines.
While they were sharing memories about Deirdre, 1 or 2 old video clips would have been good idea..just to bring her closer once more.
I enjoyed the heated arguments in the Barlow household too. Deirdre and Ken has had few of those over the years too ;)
I thoroughly enjoyed Tracy's words to Ken, he deserved to get something back after what he said to her at the funeral. It wasn't the time and place, and Deirdre wouldn't have been happy about Ken's picking on Tracy either.
Shame on Peter! How did he dare to go and judge Tracy as a parent???!!!
And I say this as a fan of Peter.
I think the change happened too fast..from argument to sweet smiles and cups of tea.
And I say again-Simon should be with his dad now, wherever he goes. If that's what Simon wants.
Well.Tammy , pay attention, pay attention
I say And I'll tell thee.
The post the above quote is taken from is sheer brilliance MM! :clap:
I thoroughly enjoyed Tracy's words to Ken, he deserved to get something back after what he said to her at the funeral. It wasn't the time and place, and Deirdre wouldn't have been happy about Ken's picking on Tracy either.
I agree Ken shouldn't have said anything at Deirdre's funeral (and I'm sure he knew that himself), but let's just remember who was on the receiving end here! Tracy certainly didn't show any respect when she ruined Blanche's funeral by creating a huge scene that completely dwarfed Ken's wrongdoings!
I think the change happened too fast..from argument to sweet smiles and cups of tea.
There was a gap whilst Ken had a nap so it might have been longer than it seemed.
yes carla tracy was at the fire as she light the candle
bye bye peter again very short return
yes carla tracy was at the fire as she light the candle
bye bye peter again very short return
parkerman
16-07-2015, 21:52
There's something still nagging away at me about tonight's episode.....
Did table seven ever get their wine?
Disappointed that we didn't see Peter at the graveside.
I agree, very short return. I'd assumed that he was back for a week.
tammyy2j
16-07-2015, 22:12
I am not liking the new Robert so far which is strange as I like the actor playing him
I would have liked to have seen Peter too at Deirdre's grave
'Hello son, bye bye son '?!How selfish was that?! And I think even from Peter bit too much, not believable. He's always loved Simon and I would have thought he spends at least a full day with him and told him one2one that he's got a job at the Caribbean..!! Ridiculous
I was luckier than most because I assumed Chris was only back for one episode, so seeing him again tonight was a pleasant surprise. He was starring on stage in Little Voice when these episodes were filmed so there was a limit to what he was able to fit in.
I suppose they've given Peter this job in Antigua so Leanne won't be able to turn to him for support. She should tell him he can't go because Simon needs him. Peter's being completely thoughtless as usual (it's no wonder Simon opted to live with Leanne) but he should be told that Simon's so troubled. At least Peter's selfish behaviour's in character I suppose.
Trust Tracy to think she can make amends to Carla by offering to be her friend! She hasn't got a clue lol. It probably wouldn't occur to her that confessing she started the fire would be the best way to help Carla. I notice she couldn't resist sniping at the factory girls... http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
Glad to see Ken's got rid of that kimono (especially since Brian got a bit too much enjoyment from feeling it against his bare skin :D). Everyone appears to have forgotten that Ken's a vegetarian!
That Dan's a really nasty piece of work! :angry:
I am not liking the new Robert so far which is strange as I like the actor playing him
I think Robert seems nice so far. He's waaaay too good for Tracey (even with the secret wife lol).
for me it is Robert trying to badly do a Northern accent? it just doesn't come out right??
and hooray the Kimono has gone
for me it is Robert trying to badly do a Northern accent? it just doesn't come out right??
I must admit I hadn't noticed the accent, but then I'm not familiar with the actor so I don't know how he usually speaks. I'll be all ears tonight now. :D
parkerman
17-07-2015, 16:34
It's funny, but I thought about his accent last night for the first time, though actually That was because I thought it was ok, given how he sounded as Dr Whatever his name was in Casualty. Much better than you-know-who anyway!
It's funny, but I thought about his accent last night for the first time, though actually That was because I thought it was ok, given how he sounded as Dr Whatever his name was in Casualty. Much better than you-know-who anyway!
oh yes better that you know who, but there were one or two words where I couldn't decide if he was Manc or Yorkshire or what he was trying?
parkerman
17-07-2015, 16:57
oh yes better that you know who, but there were one or two words where I couldn't decide if he was Manc or Yorkshire or what he was trying?
Manc or Yorkshire? It's all the same isn't it? It's all north of Watford Gap!:D:rotfl:
At least Robert's northern accent is good enough to fool us southerners - unlike you know who... :D
Manc or Yorkshire? It's all the same isn't it? It's all north of Watford Gap!:D:rotfl:
I'm from London mate??!! and it niggled a bit with me..
I'm from London mate??!! and it niggled a bit with me..
Oops...I should change that to "it's good enough to fool us southerners with no ear for accents". :p
tammyy2j
17-07-2015, 21:49
Liz should have waited to confront Dan this has made him more angry
I think Cathy has romantic feelings for Roy
Alison King played a blinder in Friday's episodes. I could really feel Carla's emotional turmoil during her unpleasant attack on Roy, and later talking to Michelle in the factory. At least she apologised to Roy and they parted on good terms. David Neilson was of course excellent in those scenes as always.
Liz should have waited to confront Dan this has made him more angry
I was enjoying the outing of dirty Dan's secret in the pub until his daughter walked in. I totally understand Liz's anger and revulsion, but it was out of order to tell his poor daughter. Leanne will be the one to pay for that.
I think Cathy has romantic feelings for Roy
I don't know...I think it's platonic, for the moment at least.
If Roy needs a last minute driving lesson to practice his three point turn, how on earth does he manage to reverse round the corner?
I think Cathy has romantic feelings for Roy
I am not sure about that, I think she is letting Roy handle some of the household chores her husband used to do as she does not seem capable of doing them herself ...
I can't imagine Deirdre routinely walking around singing Hot Chocolate's You Sexy Thing. If she was, why was Ken seeing Wendy Crozier in the first place?
If Roy needs a last minute driving lesson to practice his three point turn, how on earth does he manage to reverse round the corner?
Maybe the three point turn is Roy's achilles heel when it comes to driving? Mind you, I bet reversing around a corner is a lot of people's - it certainly was mine. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
I am not sure about that, I think she is letting Roy handle some of the household chores her husband used to do as she does not seem capable of doing them herself ...
I do think she genuinely cares for him. Despite the excuses, it appears she went to a lot of trouble (and possibly expense) to find the model train he wanted.
No doubt she cares for him but still think it is more as a friend and she is grateful that he is offering her help in getting her life sorted, albeit at times reluctantly. Maybe they will become romantically involved at some time but I think it is too soon just now
No doubt she cares for him but still think it is more as a friend and she is grateful that he is offering her help in getting her life sorted, albeit at times reluctantly. Maybe they will become romantically involved at some time but I think it is too soon just now
I agree it's just a platonic friendship. They're both still too wrapped up in their dead spouses to think about anyone else in that way at the moment.
She did'nt buy the train it was amongst her clutter of things she buys and hoards. But coincidence same as the one he lost. I don't think it is going to be a romantic relationship but a deep long lasting friendship.
She did'nt buy the train it was amongst her clutter of things she buys and hoards. But coincidence same as the one he lost.
What I took from the scene was that she bought it, but made the excuse that it was in her hoard because Roy was obviously uncomfortable about her spending money on him. It's a bit of a coincidence she had the exact train he'd recently lost.
I don't think it is going to be a romantic relationship but a deep long lasting friendship.
I agree, and Stuart Blackburn has said something very similar. That doesn't mean he (or the next producer) won't change his mind of course.
She did'nt buy the train it was amongst her clutter of things she buys and hoards. But coincidence same as the one he lost. I don't think it is going to be a romantic relationship but a deep long lasting friendship.
thought she lied about the train
Snagglepus
19-07-2015, 18:10
She did'nt buy the train it was amongst her clutter of things she buys and hoards. But coincidence same as the one he lost. I don't think it is going to be a romantic relationship but a deep long lasting friendship.
It wasn't a Black Five as designed by Sir William Stanier as Roy said it was, it looked more like a parallel boiler Royal Scot as designed by Sir Henry Fowler.
It wasn't a Black Five as designed by Sir William Stanier as Roy said it was, it looked more like a parallel boiler Royal Scot as designed by Sir Henry Fowler.
I would not know, clever you :)
It wasn't a Black Five as designed by Sir William Stanier as Roy said it was, it looked more like a parallel boiler Royal Scot as designed by Sir Henry Fowler.
I would not know, clever you :)
Snagglepus
19-07-2015, 18:33
I would not know, clever you :)
Sorry, I'll get my anorak.
Snagglepus
19-07-2015, 18:33
Duplication
Roy drive Tyrone home? I hope they've got a phone to contact the insurance company and a card to pay the difference. Have they not heard of the New Drivers' Act?
I think he will pass and drives cathy to Blackpool soon.
I think he will pass and drives cathy to Blackpool soon.
Yeah, it seems to be heading that way. I know he likes trains but I doubt they take the train there.
Take the rest of the cake? I thought Michael was supposed to be watching what he ate.
Take the rest of the cake? I thought Michael was supposed to be watching what he ate.
Maybe Gail's trying to kill him so Eileen can't have him? http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
The way to a man´s heart is through his stomach ... if Michael was to return to Gail, I am sure he would be on a salad and crisp bread diet quicker than he can get his shoes off .. :D
go on liz, enjoyed her going at tony
does eileen fancy mikey now for herself must be interesting intelligent banter
go on liz, enjoyed her going at tony
does eileen fancy mikey now for herself must be interesting intelligent banter
I think Liz is the best woman on the street
Poor Leanne and Liz were having a very bad day! I'm quite glad to see Tony back but how could he be stupid enough to think he could justify his actions? :wall:
I think Liz is the best woman on the street
I agree, Liz is great. Beverly Callard plays her with bags of personality. Thank goodness the writing for her's better than it used to be. She was really obnoxious when she and Michelle used to bully Steve, but she's enjoyable to watch again at the moment. I hope she never forgives Tony!
does eileen fancy mikey now for herself must be interesting intelligent banter
They're so badly matched it's untrue. Eileen's an intelligent woman but she's got a mean streak, while Michael's nice but very, very dim. She needs a strong man to butt heads (and other body parts :p) with.
tammyy2j
23-07-2015, 17:19
Why is everyone pushing Eileen with Michael, I agree with Dazzle such a mismatched pairing
Why is everyone pushing Eileen with Michael, I agree with Dazzle such a mismatched pairing
I think they are doing this to further fuel the feud between Eileen and Gail ... and I can also imagine that Eileen is still smarting from being set up by Todd and she could throw herself at Michael to boost her self confidence...
I think Liz is the best woman on the street
I like Leanne and Carla best. But yes, Liz is good-and very real tears..!
I think Liz is the best woman on the street
I like Leanne and Carla best. But yes, Liz is good-and very real tears..!
parkerman
23-07-2015, 22:21
Gail is just becoming a caricature of herself. It's all getting way out of hand and over the top. Please give her some decent lines, scriptwriters and not this complete fawning silliness.
Gail is just becoming a caricature of herself. It's all getting way out of hand and over the top. Please give her some decent lines, scriptwriters and not this complete fawning silliness.
I agree, Gail's often unwatchable nowadays. The scene where she begged Michael for a hug was incredibly cringeworthy. I couldn't blame him for choosing Eileen after that vomit-inducing display. :sick:
I do think Helen Worth must bear some of the blame too. She's a good actress, but she and the writers seem to have got stuck in a rut of portraying the character as silly, simpering, desperate, eyelash-fluttering Gail to the exclusion of all else. She can be very funny at times, but there used to be so much more to Gail. She's been dumbed-down, like much of Corrie nowadays.
I was complaining about Michael and Eileen getting together in another thread, but there's no doubt she was by far the more attractive option tonight.
Yessss, what a lovely slap it was too :cheer:
I think Sarah Harding is terrible - can't act at all! And why to slap Tracy? It's her husband who deserved that!? I'm confused.. Tim's proposal was the best! ��
I think Sarah Harding is terrible - can't act at all! And why to slap Tracy? It's her husband who deserved that!? I'm confused.. Tim's proposal was the best! ��
I think Sarah Harding is terrible - can't act at all! And why to slap Tracy? It's her husband who deserved that!? I'm confused.. Tim's proposal was the best! ��
Well, yes, it was really Robert that deserved the slap but I see it as retribution for all the heartache and grief Tracy has caused over so many years :D
Oh, the irony of Tracy saying "that's the last time I get reeled in by a man" (or words to that effect) as if butter wouldn't melt! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/confused/smileys-confused-140297.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
I'm with Perdita in celebrating Tracy getting slapped. :thumbsup:
Sally and Tim were funny and sweet. :D I wonder if we're going to have a wedding in the live episode?
I think Sarah Harding is terrible - can't act at all! And why to slap Tracy? It's her husband who deserved that!? I'm confused..
It is strange how it's the woman who usually gets the blame when a man cheats in soaps. Does this happen much in real life? Certainly when I read other forums and comments under articles about cheating, it's noticeable the woman gets the most blame in those situations - even when she's not the one who broke any vows. It's bizarre and highly sexist - and women can be as sexist as men in apportioning blame. :angry:
maidmarian
25-07-2015, 19:55
Dupl
maidmarian
25-07-2015, 19:55
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It is strange how it's the woman who usually gets the blame when a man cheats in soaps. Does this happen much in real life? Certainly when I read other forums and comments under articles about cheating, it's noticeable the woman gets the most blame in those situations - even when she's not the one who broke any vows. It's bizarre and highly sexist - and women can be as sexist as men in apportioning blame. :ang[ry:
Not a scientific study Dazzle - but Id say its
the reverse in real life-I find women get more
sympathy there- especially if they are looking
after any children. Which is usual -but not always
the case.
I think women getting the blame in soaps is
sexist. But it seems to be one of the soap
laws- also be dim or a doormat and if
they start out ok make them into a drunk
or generally a "not-coper"!! Unless they are
a hag or a harridan!
Its evident in all the soaps in different ways
so its something fundamental in attitudes!
As said before it would be good if a young
female character got a career or an equal
relationship.**
Times are hard- but some people in real
life manage it and it would be good if
occasionally it happened in soaps.
If people are told "not possible/ likely"
often enough it can become self-fulfulling!
** There does seem.to be a strange idea
prevalent in soap management about
what would appeal to viewers as a"good
relationship". !!
I don't get the logic with Callum's photos. Aside from the other issues with this storyline already pointed out, is it really of any relevance what Max's quasi half-cousin gets up to when she wouldn't even be living with him?
I don't get the logic with Callum's photos. Aside from the other issues with this storyline already pointed out, is it really of any relevance what Max's quasi half-cousin gets up to when she wouldn't even be living with him?
Maybe he's thinking of using them for blackmail? Sarah's already dumped him once, so if she did it again maybe the pictures would "persuade" her to continue siding with him for the custody case? Sarah seems idiotic enough to fall for that.
It is obviously for blackmail purposes that he took the pictures but I think he uses them to blackmail Kylie rather than Sarah .. or David
It is obviously for blackmail purposes that he took the pictures but I think he uses them to blackmail Kylie rather than Sarah .. or David
Does Kylie really care about Sarah enough to risk custody of Max for a few dodgy pictures? She seems too savvy for that, so let's hope it doesn't work.
Gail is just becoming a caricature of herself. It's all getting way out of hand and over the top. Please give her some decent lines, scriptwriters and not this complete fawning silliness.
Agreed! It's like the Gail from the Lewis storyline or something, except that was actually decent (largely due to Nigel Havers/Lewis.)
I couldn't believe her on Friday. Did she miss the fact that Bethany invited Callum to Audrey's party to cause trouble? She would surely not trust her again after her no show at the bistro on Friday (which today was reduced to late!) And saying that nothing would surprise her because she's Sarah's daughter. Sarah wasn't that bad surely, that was David. All Sarah did was get pregnant at a young age and while I'm not condoning it, it was naivety. She wasn't sleeping around, it was a one off that she regretted not only because she got pregnant. Sarah really grew up after what happened with Aiden Critchley.
And asking Lloyd why he didn't tell them? He just did!
Scriptwriters are so bad sometimes. As if Bethany would be stupid enough to take a cab from one of the neighbours. It's too easy to get caught and she'd know it.
Did Kevin just complain about the cost of childcare to Tyrone? Well he wouldn't need childcare if he hadn't slept with Tyrone's wife behind his back!
Lemon yellow? As opposed to lemon what?
Sarah seems to disappear early from even more shifts than Tina did!
tammyy2j
27-07-2015, 22:25
Please Corrie stop ruining Sally and Tim's relationship and Kevin and Tim's bromance and pushing Tim to Anna with them bounding over grandchild Miley
What age is Faye meant to be if Bethany is 15, 12 or 13 abouts? I thought they were around the same age as Craig too
tammyy2j
27-07-2015, 22:25
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Faye is 13. She had her birthday in March and there was the "13 and up the duff" line.
Craig has just done his exams so he must be 16, turning 17 any time between September and the following August.
Bethany turned 15 last month.
and now steph is 20 seriously the casting is so very wrong
As if Bethany would be stupid enough to take a cab from one of the neighbours. It's too easy to get caught and she'd know it.
Agreed. Bethany isn't supposed to be in the least bit stupid which is why she runs rings around the dumbed-down Sarah and Gail.
Did Kevin just complain about the cost of childcare to Tyrone? Well he wouldn't need childcare if he hadn't slept with Tyrone's wife behind his back!
Everyone's forgotten that little detail, including the scriptwriters. Surely Jack's nearly old enough to go to school anyway? He'll be five in September (although he looks younger).
Please Corrie stop ruining Sally and Tim's relationship and Kevin and Tim's bromance and pushing Tim to Anna with them bounding over grandchild Miley
I liked Sally and Tim's scenes and thought it made a nice change to give the actors something serious to work with. The characters are polar opposite so there's bound to be lots of friction between them. As long as there's still the underlying warmth, I don't mind some ups and downs in their relationship.
and now steph is 20 seriously the casting is so very wrong
I was surprised about that as Steph seems nearer to thirty to me. However, I googled Tisha Merry and she's around 21, so the casting is unusually age appropriate for Corrie in this case.
tammyy2j
28-07-2015, 15:13
Didn't Tyrone sell his shares of the garage to Kevin when he needed money to leave Kirsty?
parkerman
28-07-2015, 16:04
Didn't Tyrone sell his shares of the garage to Kevin when he needed money to leave Kirsty?
Don't think so. They each own 50% still.
Snagglepus
28-07-2015, 17:31
Was it not Molly that was wanting Tyrone to sell his shares?
tyrone needed money to off with fiz after kirsty battered him so he asked kevin was it for his half of garage im not sure
Why does Callum think it's a good idea to be throwing his weight around the gym a few yards from his son's front door? Somebody could turn up at the court to tell them about his behaviour.
so safe to bet callum will make so many enemies no one will care when he is killed off, how is anyone afraid of him, he is about as tough as pee wee herman
Was it not Molly that was wanting Tyrone to sell his shares?
Molly probably wanted him to sell his shares as she was having an affair with Kevin. It'd have been less awkward if he sold, which in soapland would explain why he can't have done.
Fiz and Tyrone didn't get very far when they tried to disappear but I can't remember why. Maybe Kevin couldn't come up with the money when Tyrone wanted to sell.
so safe to bet callum will make so many enemies no one will care when he is killed off, how is anyone afraid of him, he is about as tough as pee wee herman
I find him a tad more convincing than his mates and Vincent from EastEnders to be honest. Tony's mates being scared off by Robert too.
Can't believe Roy broke in :eek: I expected him to say that it was breaking and entering.
Everyone's forgotten that little detail, including the scriptwriters. Surely Jack's nearly old enough to go to school anyway? He'll be five in September (although he looks younger.
Yes, Jack will start school in September. As the school year starts in September, he's the oldest in the year and has to be almost five to start (rather than 4 and a bit which is the case for many.) At least they've got that right so far. Over on EastEnders, Amy must have missed more school than she actually attended during her first year and Lily started school at the correct time, but she was later referenced as being at/picked up from nursery!
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