Current Episode Discussion VII

[Perdita]

Last nights episode was fantastic.. it was like I was watching EE in the past.. Bianca hasn't changed and I felt so sorry for her and especially her kids sleeping in a bus shelter... swallow your pride girlie and call Ricky.

Janine was as ever brilliant.. still the same.. falling for the stuff Pat had said and then wriggling out of it saying she over heard ricky and his girlfriend talking about it... then she goes off on a typical Janine rant.. perfection as usual from Charlie brookes.. Please please let her come back and she will sort out Clare, chelsea and give Stacey a run for her money...10/10 EE

Hope Lucy does not regard her as a role model though. :lol:

[Chris_2k11]

How amazing is Janine! get her back NOW!

[Florijo]

ooh I have a feeling they have paved the way for her to return now Pat seems open to her now:D

[Lizzie Brookes]

Oh stupid Bianca - what on earth did she hit that police officer for? Now she herself has jeopardised her chance of keeping the kids. She could have told the police the truth - they might not have blamed her and she definitely should have told Ricky the truth. Ricky and Bianca may not be together but he has a right as Liam's father to know the truth. Even he saw something was wrong and she should never have got ina car with a total stranger. That chap looking at Liam may not have meant any harm but that man in the car was a total creep. I suspected it right from the start. Charlie Brookes was brilliant. i am starting to warm a little towards Janine despuite her bitchy ways as she was telling the truth about carving her name on the wall and I can't believe she didn't love her dad. I wish Ricky and Bianca'd et back together.

[CrazyLea]

Everytime Janine is on Chris, I think of you :p.

Question.. when the police arrested Bianca.. did they leave the kids there? Or did one of the officers stay with them?

[parkerman]

that man in the car was a total creep. I suspected it right from the start.

Well done! What else did you think he might be doing????

[JustJodi]

Everytime Janine is on Chris, I think of you :p.

Question.. when the police arrested Bianca.. did they leave the kids there? Or did one of the officers stay with them?
there was a female officer there too,, the other cop's partner,,

[sam23]

I didn't start watching Eastenders until 2000 so I never saw the original Bianca and Ricky stuff.

I can see Bianca really getting on my nerves, but I think the little girl, Tiffany (Maisie Smith) could be a great little actress for her age, and Whitney could shape up to be quite interesting if she gets the opportunity to act her age, half the time it looked like she took the mothers role and Bianca was the screaming brat.

[Perdita]

Everytime Janine is on Chris, I think of you :p.

Question.. when the police arrested Bianca.. did they leave the kids there? Or did one of the officers stay with them?
there was a female officer there too,, the other cop's partner,,

But I don't think that she stayed behind. If she did not, it was disgusting. How old is Whitney meant to be? Not old enough to look after 3 other small kids without a home to go to, that is for sure.

[parkerman]

Yes, she did stay behind.

[Siobhan]

How amazing is Janine! get her back NOW!

She is by far one of the best character EE has ever had..

[parkerman]

And Charlie was one of the best actors by far.

[Abbie]

How amazing is Janine! get her back NOW!

She is by far one of the best character EE has ever had..

I know! She should SO come back

[Perdita]

Janine would certainly give Clare a very good run for her money, no contest in my opinion.

[Abbie]

Im loving Bicana back and loved the advert at the end to show a little bit of tonight
:rotfl:

[Joanne]

I'm loving Bianca being back too.

How long are they going to string out Shirley getting/not getting her test results for?

[parkerman]

Winston's niece?

Is this the start of big things for Winston? :cheer:

[Perdita]

Winston's niece?

Is this the start of big things for Winston? :cheer:

I doubt it, is his niece staying around for a while? Because if she gets it on with Gus, it will be short-lived as he is off soon. :(

[lizann]

I'm liking Phil and Shirley. I hope her results are clear whenever she gets them.

Heather was brillant as usual.

Poor Bianca its good she is back and what an entrance to the square nearly knocking everyone over even hot Uncle Jack

[sam23]

Winston's niece?

Is this the start of big things for Winston? :cheer:

i doubt it too, she is only here to run the stall while her uncle is away, on holiday i think?
She gets it on with Gus but I heard that Sean ends up sleeping with her so it sounds like a passing thing just to write Gus out?

[parkerman]

Winston's niece?

Is this the start of big things for Winston? :cheer:

i doubt it too, she is only here to run the stall while her uncle is away, on holiday i think?
She gets it on with Gus but I heard that Sean ends up sleeping with her so it sounds like a passing thing just to write Gus out?


:(

[Timalay]

RIIIICCCCCKKKKKKKYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

She's back. :lol:

[Perdita]

Why do Ricky and Bianca shout all the time? Can't they talk a little bit quieter, I have turn the telly down every time they have a scene together. :eek:

[Florijo]

I forgot just how much Bianca does shout. Oh well she should fit in well again. Libby and Gus are the rare specimen of Walfordian who don't shout.

[Abbie]

RIIIICCCCCKKKKKKKYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

She's back. :lol:

:cheer: :cheer: Whoooooo I loved it :p

[*-Rooney-*]

good old bianca, ive missed her

glad she finally swallowed her pride at the end and decided to stay at pats yay

[Abbie]

good old bianca, ive missed her

glad she finally swallowed her pride at the end and decided to stay at pats yay

:cheer: I know, all she has to do, is ask her now :D

[*-Rooney-*]

well she did offer and seemed upset when she refused, and i cant see her throwing her own grandaughter on the street and keeping her separated from her kids

[Siobhan]

Love Ricky and Bianca back... one thing I thought was really good and highlighted a lot of thing is what Bianca said to Ricky about finding a job that pays for childcare, allows her to have time off when her kids have chickenpox or whatever and still gives her money for rent and to feed all her kids.. she is right, there is very very few jobs that allow that.. I am really lucky I have one and there but for the grace of god I go.. I could have been another Bianca..

So Phil and Shirley.. I am so glad she turned Vinnie now.. you don't turn up completely drunk to win a woman back!! that is a bad bad start.

Rustie Lee :lol::lol: her laugh still makes me laugh..

[sindydoll]

what a fantastic comeback for ricky and bianca her screaming her gob off that was just tops :cheer: i have sky + so i had to rewind it back and watch that scene again loved it so much :cheer: :cheer:

[Chris_2k11]

One thing that put me off was that cringy scene where she ran out the house shouting him and everyone in the square started turning round. its like the producers are blatantly trying to recreate the past and making it obvious to us if you know what i mean. hmm

[parkerman]

I agree. Those were exactly my thoughts when I saw that scene. If Bianca continues to speak at a million decibles every episode I think we are soon going to get fed up with it.:wall:

[JustJodi]

This is supposed to be a mother of 3 kids ( whit isn't hers) and shes screaming like a banshee acting like the red headed teen she used to be,, for heavens sake Rickayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy has moved on and grown up,, shes still the dole mom......making excuses for her pitiful life. Ricky made all the right points, and bianca KNEW he was right, so she had to go and SHRIEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKK it all over the square......bad show !!!!!! EE producers must have been smoking funny weed when they came up with those "old " ideas:wall: :wall:

[Perdita]

I must admit that I sit and cringe when she is screaming her head off, I know we all get uptight at times and the voice level goes up but normally this lasts only for a couple of minutes, I try to make a conscious effort to calm down again but even in normal conversations Bianca seems to just shout all the time. Puts me off watching the soap, tbh. :thumbsdow

[sindydoll]

omg is gus a man??

[Timalay]

Question: Does anybody know the name the actress who plays Keisha?

[parkerman]

omg is gus a man??

Not yet! :lol:

[StarsOfCCTV]

Keisha's played by Suzie McGrath :)

Bless Gus. He is a sweetie :p

[Abbie]

:( Poor Gus
Evil Sean :angry:
Bless Ben the little Tapper :p

[Chris_2k11]

tonights was crap compared to the rest of this week. i couldnt care less about Gus and his girlfriend

[tammyy2j]

Poor Gus I can't believe Keisha fell for Sean's act and lies

[Abbie]

Poor Gus I can't believe Keisha fell for Sean's act and lies

:( I know, I really have gone off sean now

[StarsOfCCTV]

Poor Gus I can't believe Keisha fell for Sean's act and lies

:( I know, I really have gone off sean now

I wasn't watching last Fridays episode properly so I watched the omnibus. I felt like smacking him one! He's so out of order. I hope he gets his comeuppence one day :angry:

[Abbie]

Poor Gus I can't believe Keisha fell for Sean's act and lies

:( I know, I really have gone off sean now

I wasn't watching last Fridays episode properly so I watched the omnibus. I felt like smacking him one! He's so out of order. I hope he gets his comeuppence one day :angry:

Me too, he really his making me want to hit him!! :angry:

[parkerman]

More importantly, what happened to Keisha's guitar?

[Abbie]

More importantly, what happened to Keisha's guitar?What do you mean?

[StarsOfCCTV]

More importantly, what happened to Keisha's guitar?

Maybe she was just borrowing it? :hmm:

[sindydoll]

thats it now i hate that sean! that gutted me last night i really thought gus had found a nice girl :(

[Florijo]

Keisha shouldn't be so guliable really. Sean's fault totally but the writing made absolutly no sense. Gus had known this girl for five minutes and after less than five minutes talking to Sean, she decides Gus is a womaniser and she'll sleep with Sean???:confused: Did she forget that Gus turned her down the other day? if he was what sean said he was he would not. Shoddy writing. She jumped into bed with Sean after talking to him for five minutes. Maybe not such a nice girl..

[Perdita]

She would have slept with Gus though, if he had invited her to stay and Sean wound her up over Gus because Gus wanted him to leave the flat to let her move in. So she might have thought that Gus does not fancy her and she therefore turned to Sean? :hmm:

[JustJodi]

Just when I thought Gus was going to find himself some one nice, EE goes and ruins things for him.Putting her in bed with Sean was a NO NO.. I also thought Keisha wanted that fancy diamond ring that Gus' Aunt gave him ( the ring belonged to Gus' late mother ?? ) Well I am sure Keisha is out of the picture .. unless Gus has a spine of a jelly fish !!! Seems to me he tends to choose women who will go with other men instead of him ( Sonia is an example )
Hey gang can you answer this for me...think back a week ago maybe 2 ,, during Franks funeral,, Gus calls Ricky "Mate ", and they spend time talking together and having a beer,,I do not ever recall Ricky and Gus being buddies..:searchme:

[parkerman]

Hey gang can you answer this for me...think back a week ago maybe 2 ,, during Franks funeral,, Gus calls Ricky "Mate ", and they spend time talking together and having a beer,,I do not ever recall Ricky and Gus being buddies..:searchme:


I think they were friends. They were in a sort of group of young lads together with Martin and Mickey. So, I think in that sense they were mates.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I roared with laughter when Christian and his boyfriend walked in and discovered Steven in the bed. It was so funny. Steven buying a book about it and spying on Sean in the alleyway. I am glad Gus stood up to him but he took a terrible risk. Sean's different around Tanya but with everyone else he is merciless. Bianca's so selfish at times but she does love her children. Yet that eldest daughter of hers is right - its a matter of doing more than saying "sorry".

[*-Rooney-*]

Did you see bradleys face when he overheard that steven was still a virgin lol

[Perdita]

Did you see bradleys face when he overheard that steven was still a virgin lol

Yep, poor sod :lol:

[Lizzie Brookes]

Did you see bradleys face when he overheard that steven was still a virgin lol

I thought Bradley had that funny look because he was jealous of Steven but why hold his virginity against him? Bradley was a virgin once himself if I remember. His first time was with Stacey wasn't it?

[Perdita]

Did you see bradleys face when he overheard that steven was still a virgin lol

I thought Bradley had that funny look because he was jealous of Steven but why hold his virginity against him? Bradley was a virgin once himself if I remember. His first time was with Stacey wasn't it?

But he had not bragged about doing "it" to everybody on the square.

[Katy]

It was funny the look on Christians face was a picture. I am loving the Ricky and Bianca stuff. I thin Binaca is great. Much prefer her this time round.

[tammyy2j]

Has Bianca ever meet her other relatives i.e Bradley, Jack, Tanya, Abi and Lauren before. She didn't know who Bradley was?????

I'm not buying Sean/Roxy they are an awful couple with no chemistry now Sean/Ronnie might work better

Poor Gus i'm glad he stood up to Sean but where is Keisha isn't she suppose to be working on Winston's stall?????

Steven waiting to be deflowered and getting caught naked in Christian's bed by Christan very funny also the look on bradders face when he overhears Steven a virgin and hadn't slept with Stacey funny

[parkerman]

Has Bianca ever meet her other relatives i.e Bradley, Jack, Tanya, Abi and Lauren before. She didn't know who Bradley was?????



She remembered Bradley from when he was young with the Klingon mask on!

[*-Rooney-*]

i dont think she will have met tanya or abi and lauren yet but now shes on the square its only a matter of time.

what was up with ricky about the flat, why did he hesitate when pat mentioned it then just offer it to vinnie?

[parkerman]

Because Ricky has told Pat that he has a good job earning lots of money, when, in fact, he is out of work with no money, so he can't afford the flat.

[sam23]

Yes he worked for his ex's dad so with them being history he'll have been given the push. Looks like he'll end up living in Pats, I wish I had a house like that, seems to fit an endless amount of people in.
I can't work out how many bedrooms it has, Bianca said 3 or 4, but it must be 4 if the social handed the kids back (when Kevin lived there was pat, denise, kevin, carly, chelsea, squiggle and deno?)which is strange when Tanya's is only a 3 as the girls will have to share when Oscar needs a room. The Beale's only has 4 bedrooms? even after a loft conversion, as Lucy had to share with Bobby and Steven shared with Peter when Christian was there.

[parkerman]

Talking of which...I've lost track of where Chelsea and Libby are now. Would someone be kind enough to fill me in? Thank you.

[Siobhan]

Talking of which...I've lost track of where Chelsea and Libby are now. Would someone be kind enough to fill me in? Thank you.

they are staying at Patrick and Yolande's place..

[Florijo]

Walford really is a very incestous place. Bianca fancies her uncle :eek: Better than her dad I suppose. Thank god Max is not around that is all I can say

[Lizzie Brookes]

Walford really is a very incestous place. Bianca fancies her uncle :eek: Better than her dad I suppose. Thank god Max is not around that is all I can say

I doubt Max would be interested. He turned down Claire didn't he? If Bianca;'s never met her uncle or hasn't grown upp knowing him as her uncle it's quite natural. Long ago at 12/13 I had a bit of a crush on my stepmother before I ever met her but that gave way to the usual daughterly love after a while as I knew it would. Mmm I'm surprised she didn't fancy Jack rather than Max but still...

[tammyy2j]

Walford really is a very incestous place. Bianca fancies her uncle :eek: Better than her dad I suppose. Thank god Max is not around that is all I can say

Well her uncle Jack is hot whereas Max is not.

When Bianca first arrived she made a move on David Wicks before she knew he was her dad.

I'm thinking Ronnie doesn't like kids or doesn't get on well with kids or does she have a backstory/history involving kids. :hmm:

Penny is a little madam but i hope she stays around.

Walford is now all about the Brannings not the Mitchells anymore.

I like Bianca's kids especially little Tiffany and Whitney is a interesting character

Heather as usual was brillant

[Dutchgirl]

Hey gang can you answer this for me...think back a week ago maybe 2 ,, during Franks funeral,, Gus calls Ricky "Mate ", and they spend time talking together and having a beer,,I do not ever recall Ricky and Gus being buddies..:searchme:
Weren't they flatmates? Not sure though.

But I definitaley hate Sean. I wondered when Gus would change the locks. Sean is pure evil. I did like him before but he has finally lost the plot. Gus is too nice.

[Ruffed_lemur]

Walford really is a very incestous place. Bianca fancies her uncle :eek: Better than her dad I suppose. Thank god Max is not around that is all I can say

Well her uncle Jack is hot whereas Max is not.

When Bianca first arrived she made a move on David Wicks before she knew he was her dad.

I'm thinking Ronnie doesn't like kids or doesn't get on well with kids or does she have a backstory/history involving kids. :hmm:

Penny is a little madam but i hope she stays around.

Walford is now all about the Brannings not the Mitchells anymore.

I like Bianca's kids especially little Tiffany and Whitney is a interesting character

Heather as usual was brillant

I like Bianca's kids too. Tiffany's just great!

[Abbie]

Awww Tiff is my fav she is sooo cute and just a great character

[lizann]

I'm liking Bianca's return and her kids especially little Tiffany.

Sean is just becoming so evil i felt sorry for him when Tanya used and dumped him but not now :thumbsdow

[Ruffed_lemur]

I felt sorry for Sean too, but wish he wouldn't revert back to his old ways. He just has too many issues I guess.

[Florijo]

I think Sean is better the way he is now. He hasn't gotten over his issues and its only realistic he'd go back likt this. It will be interesting to see what Stacey and Jean make of it all

[JustJodi]

I am going to wonder here,, where is Gus going to CAMP OUT,, now that he is HOMELESS from his own Home, u think he will go live with Mickey ???
Sean has turned out to be a real ROTTER..what he did to Gus was uncalled for and I am sure that since Gus' name is on the lease of the place he would have MORE RIGHTS ?? But again this is not reality here,,,,,,,,,,,:nono:

[Siobhan]

I am going to wonder here,, where is Gus going to CAMP OUT,, now that he is HOMELESS from his own Home, u think he will go live with Mickey ???
Sean has turned out to be a real ROTTER..what he did to Gus was uncalled for and I am sure that since Gus' name is on the lease of the place he would have MORE RIGHTS ?? But again this is not reality here,,,,,,,,,,,:nono:

I am sure Mickey will take him in.. Sean can claim Squatter rights so it doesn't matter who's name is on the lease... Plus he told Gus to keep paying the rent

[Florijo]

Decent episode.

Sean :nono: Feel sorry for Gus but I still like Sean as a character (not as a person). Feels uncomfortable to see him bullying Gus though.
R&R were good, as was the Stacey & Steven stuff. Don't like Clare, Bradley has gotten seriusly boring. Don't like the sound of where Tanya and Jack may be going (don't do it EE :thumbsdow ). Loved Jean but wish there were more scenes with Sean. She is such a gentle soul and well...he isn't and i want to see more of their relationship.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Good episode tonight. Bradley's quite straightfoward and honest isn't he? I respect him for that. As Stacey once said he is not a typical bloke. He's gentle and sensitive. He told Claire straight out he was still thinking about Stacey so couldn't continue kissing her as it wouldn't be fair. He also told both Lydia and preeti that he liked someone else so couldn't be involved with them any more and unlike his dad he has never cheated on anyone he's been with - a very decent chap.

I enjoyed the Steven/Stacey scenes. They are ok as an item but I think Steven and Stacey are better as friends. It is nice to have a close supportive friend of the opposite sex sometimes. Stacey and Steven are too similar I think and too close in age. That is all right with friendship but can be problematic in a relationship. With Bradley he's slighly different and when people are together, differences are important as well as similarities. Bracey all the way for me. They are just right. Evil Sean for lying to Gus about Wellard but Sean's compl;etely screwed up (more so than Steven originally was). He's different around Tanya yes but Tanya's only ever loved Max and as Stacey said Max and Tanya are cut from the same cloth just as Frank and Pat were.

Can' wait for tomorrow.

[Florijo]

I think Stacey and Steven were better as friends and I don't think Stacey really likes him that much. As a friend, yes, but not anything more. She seems to be doing it all to spite Bradley really.

[CrazyLea]

Yeah I've noticed that. Whenever Bradley is around she does something just to spite him!

I liked the Tanya/Jack stuff. I like seeing them together, with the kids too.

Sean made me laugh with the dog :p.

[Timalay]

Question wasn't Darren ment to be running the car lot?

[Joanne]

Tanya and Jack seem to have a natural relationship and they obviously feel comfortable around each other. Jack and Ronnie have never had that for me - they always seem to be trying to score points off each other.

Good point re the car lot - I remember them saying Darren would be running it too. Bad continuity or have we both missed something?

[parkerman]

Where is Darren come to that?

[Hollie-x]

Thought it was hilraious last night with the whole Wellard thing...poor Gus though!

[Ruffed_lemur]

Decent episode.

Sean :nono: Feel sorry for Gus but I still like Sean as a character (not as a person). Feels uncomfortable to see him bullying Gus though.
R&R were good, as was the Stacey & Steven stuff. Don't like Clare, Bradley has gotten seriusly boring. Don't like the sound of where Tanya and Jack may be going (don't do it EE :thumbsdow ). Loved Jean but wish there were more scenes with Sean. She is such a gentle soul and well...he isn't and i want to see more of their relationship.

Yes, poor Gus. Sean is an interesting character though, good or bad. I think that underneath the bad guy, there's a good guy trying to get out!

[parkerman]

I don't think he's trying very hard...:lol:

[Timalay]

The gang of Walford is in town.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I wonder why that man declared Roxy as the winner when it said Dawn Swann on his card. I liked the kiss between Steven and Christian. That was well done and Steven kissed him not the other way round. It was obvious from the tension and everything what was going to happen. I abolutely loved that ending - he probably is bi, it's just he hasn't acknowledged it. I like the friendship Tanya and Jack have. Dot shouldn't have interfered though. If Bradley still has feelings for Stacey that is his buisiness and despite her fling with Max I think Bracey are well suited and Stacey should just be friends with Steven. He's right not to encourage Claire and Claire is right to stay out of it.

[Florijo]

He declared Roxy the winner cos Sean threatened him. I feel sorry for Gus but how dumb is he?

[Lizzie Brookes]

Thanks. I can't believe Sean did that but then again Dawn cheated. I saw her using a calculator so I don't have that much sympathy. I am sorry for Gus but Mickey was right. Sean was winding him up.

[Katy]

I thought tonight was quite a good episode, quite funny in parts. THought the Tanya Jack scenes were nice.

[Pinkbanana]

Im really enjoying EE at the min, apart from the Sean bits..the sooner he goes the better in my humble opinion!!! :p

[Lizzie Brookes]

Sean's being more horrible than usual I agree but I still think he's a good charecter (not a good person) and I'm sorry he's leaving. It's stupid to be getting rid of so many people - Honey, Sean, Steven. I'm not bothered about Honey leaving but the other two are good charecters and could be given off screen time if there are no storylines for them. I wonder if Christian knew what was going to happen and what he meant when he said "You know why" - what was he talking about?

[Florijo]

Agreed. What I like most about the character of Sean is the relationship with Jean. One of the most interesting relationships in the square for me. Sean isn't a nice person but then there are people like that in real life. I will miss him and I feel he will leave a hole in the Slaters, even though he doesn't have much screen time with them now, there is always interesting scenes when he does see Jean.

I do feel sorry for Gus though. He is a nice guy and doesn't deserve it but then someone like Sean would never pick on the likes of Phil or Jase so they had to choose someone like Gus, for the storyline to work.

[Dutchgirl]

Steven and Christina well played. This story line is going somewhere. Pleased that EE has stepped up to issues like this one. I hope Christian will keep distance though.

Cannot bare to watch Gus and Sean, I really hate bullying.:(

[CrazyLea]

It's stupid to be getting rid of so many people - Honey, Sean, Steven.
Honey's leaving :eek:?

[Pinkbanana]

It's stupid to be getting rid of so many people - Honey, Sean, Steven.
Honey's leaving :eek:?

Yep, she is...there's a thread on it somewhere...:)

[Lizzie Brookes]

Steven and Christian well played. This story line is going somewhere. Pleased that EE has stepped up to issues like this one. I hope Christian will keep distance though.

Cannot bare to watch Gus and Sean, I really hate bullying.:(

I agree about Steven and Christiasn - brilliantly acted and I loved the kiss scene. I watched it about 3 times on You Tube. Christian should keep distance really because he's older and should be more responsible and not take advantage. If Steven is comfortable being bi and wants to have a try with Chruistian then great but if not then Christian shouldn't take advantage. I think Sean's an interesting charecter and that the BBC are stupid to axe him but his bullying of Gus is horrible.

[Pinkbanana]

Steven and Christian well played. This story line is going somewhere. Pleased that EE has stepped up to issues like this one. I hope Christian will keep distance though.

Cannot bare to watch Gus and Sean, I really hate bullying.:(

I agree about Steven and Christiasn - brilliantly acted and I loved the kiss scene. I watched it about 3 times on You Tube. Christian should keep distance really because he's older and should be more responsible and not take advantage. If Steven is comfortable being bi and wants to have a try with Chruistian then great but if not then Christian shouldn't take advantage. I think Sean's an interesting charecter and that the BBC are stupid to axe him but his bullying of Gus is horrible.

They aren't axing him, he wanted to leave...:)

[Katy]

I think there is lots going on atthe minute which is good. Although Lucy seems to have been swept under the table there has hardly been any mention of her recently.

[CrazyLea]

It looked pretty much a one-sided kiss from my point of view? Looked at though Christian looked awkward and wanted to pull away?

[parkerman]

He declared Roxy the winner cos Sean threatened him.
The other two judges must have known who had won. Who put the card in the envelope anyway?

[Perdita]

I had to watch the omnibus edition today to catch up and got so frustrated with the scriptwriting. First, Steven does not go to his room to read a book on first sexual encounters but in the living room where, of course, he gets caught out. Then he does not put his hands down as soon as he hears somebody coming into the house and is still nearly groping the mannequin when Christian and Ian walk in. !! Everytime Bradley and Stacey are in a shot, Stacey and Steven can get it on to make Bradley jealous and Clare is there to tuck Bradley's shirt into his trousers :rolleyes:, Wellard sat unchained in an open room next to where his master was arguing with Sean about having killed him and came running in when Sean called him (sic), Roxy observes Dawn dancing around in the new dress Mickey bought her from the upstairs window and then Sean mumbles something into the main judge's ear to declare Roxy winner of the barmaid contest whilst the whole club obviously did not watch Dawn being better and quicker than Roxy and the other judges not questioning anything??? I could go on and on. I shall give the omnibus edition a miss for a while and stick to watching the daily episodes, that way I don't get an overload of nonsense. :angry:

[parkerman]

Spot on, Perdita.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I had to watch the omnibus edition today to catch up and got so frustrated with the scriptwriting. First, Steven does not go to his room to read a book on first sexual encounters but in the living room where, of course, he gets caught out. Then he does not put his hands down as soon as he hears somebody coming into the house and is still nearly groping the mannequin when Christian and Ian walk in. !! Everytime Bradley and Stacey are in a shot, Stacey and Steven can get it on to make Bradley jealous and Clare is there to tuck Bradley's shirt into his trousers :rolleyes:, Wellard sat unchained in an open room next to where his master was arguing with Sean about having killed him and came running in when Sean called him (sic), Roxy observes Dawn dancing around in the new dress Mickey bought her from the upstairs window and then Sean mumbles something into the main judge's ear to declare Roxy winner of the barmaid contest whilst the whole club obviously did not watch Dawn being better and quicker than Roxy and the other judges not questioning anything??? I could go on and on. I shall give the omnibus edition a miss for a while and stick to watching the daily episodes, that way I don't get an overload of nonsense. :angry:

This is EastEnders we are talking about.

[Perdita]

I had to watch the omnibus edition today to catch up and got so frustrated with the scriptwriting. First, Steven does not go to his room to read a book on first sexual encounters but in the living room where, of course, he gets caught out. Then he does not put his hands down as soon as he hears somebody coming into the house and is still nearly groping the mannequin when Christian and Ian walk in. !! Everytime Bradley and Stacey are in a shot, Stacey and Steven can get it on to make Bradley jealous and Clare is there to tuck Bradley's shirt into his trousers :rolleyes:, Wellard sat unchained in an open room next to where his master was arguing with Sean about having killed him and came running in when Sean called him (sic), Roxy observes Dawn dancing around in the new dress Mickey bought her from the upstairs window and then Sean mumbles something into the main judge's ear to declare Roxy winner of the barmaid contest whilst the whole club obviously did not watch Dawn being better and quicker than Roxy and the other judges not questioning anything??? I could go on and on. I shall give the omnibus edition a miss for a while and stick to watching the daily episodes, that way I don't get an overload of nonsense. :angry:

This is EastEnders we are talking about.


I know this happens in all soaps, TV films, movies etc., otherwise there would not be a storyline, but not to the extent of today's omnibus of EE, I just thought it was way too much.

[Abbie]

It looked pretty much a one-sided kiss from my point of view? Looked at though Christian looked awkward and wanted to pull away?

Yeah maybe, it did look like that even thought he was getting Steven to admit it, I dont think he would of wanted him to kiss him

[lizann]

I'm surprise Peggy/Phil have any spirits left to sell in the Vic with the amount the staff drinks without paying while working.

Roxy has become annoying now i really can't stand her

WTF why did Phil tell Peggy about Shirley's cancer scare?????

As usual Heather was brillant. I love her friendship with Shirley. They don't need to bring back Hazel at all.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I never liked Hazel much.

[LostVoodoo]

i really liked Hazel with Minty, but i feel for Heather so much. what a conumdrum!

[StarsOfCCTV]

Hazel is really annoying :p I wish they'd never brought her back. Then Heather and Minty could be happy :p

I feel sorry for Roxy, she really likes Sean but he was just using her. At least she's realised it now. Although getting drunk is not the best way to deal with the rejection.....

[Lizzie Brookes]

Everyone in the square thinks alcohol is the answer. Roxy's no different. :rolleyes:

[Florijo]

I think Roxy was using Sean as much as he was using her.

They really need an AA meeting for the squares residents

[Florijo]

Worst.Episode.Ever.

IMO that episode was a complete mess. I feel sorry for Gus but Sean is now telling him where he can go in Walford and he whines but more or less accepts it, the wedding storyline is the pits and as for Stacey and Steven. Nervous virgin to confident, superstud in a few days:thumbsdow

[Chris_2k11]

"Looking stunning as ever Shirley"

"Go die Sean" :D

Shirley saves the episode :cool:

[Lizzie Brookes]

I actually liked today's episode. The Stacey/Steven scenes were good. Can't stand Hazel - the woman is selfish through and through. First she breaks Minty's heart. Then she reads in a magazine that he is going to marry someone else and comes to get her man back - waltzing back in without a care in the world as though nothing happened. I am glad Minty saw sense and chose Heather. He masay not love her as such but he likes her and that can develop into love over time. Heather thinks about what Minty wants. Hazel doesn't. I'm glad Phil made Shirley go to the hospital to get her results - about time. I also liked her chat with Peggy.

[LostVoodoo]

and once again we get a personality transplant in Eastenders, what happened to Hazel? she wasn't like that when she left. and a lot of things were forgotten, like how she left over the baby issue- why wasn't it even mentioned?!

[Lizzie Brookes]

and once again we get a personality transplant in Eastenders, what happened to Hazel? she wasn't like that when she left. and a lot of things were forgotten, like how she left over the baby issue- why wasn't it even mentioned?!

I hate Hazel now. She is selfish through and through. EastEnders does a lot of personality transplants - Minty and Billy were unpleasant long ago and now both are gentle and kind. There is a lot of inconsistency. It all comes down to bad scriptwriting. That is why lots of actors want to leave EastEnders I reckon.

[Siobhan]

I really liked last night.. my heart went out to poor Heather and I was so happy when Minty picked her in the end.. nice to see the "not so pretty" girl win in the end...

Sean with Gus.. WTF.. he can't tell him where he can and can't go.. Gus, pack up yourself and your dog and get out of there now or bring in your Aunt to kick Sean's ass.. nasty man :angry:

Tanya and Jack... mmmmmm something is going to happen there me thinks.. Stacey and Steven.. ok whatever!! why to hide your sexuality Steven by trying to be the stud of watford... You went for Christian, he didn't seduce you.. YOU ARE GAY!! deal with it

[Lizzie Brookes]

I really liked last night.. my heart went out to poor Heather and I was so happy when Minty picked her in the end.. nice to see the "not so pretty" girl win in the end...

Sean with Gus.. WTF.. he can't tell him where he can and can't go.. Gus, pack up yourself and your dog and get out of there now or bring in your Aunt to kick Sean's ass.. nasty man :angry:

Tanya and Jack... mmmmmm something is going to happen there me thinks.. Stacey and Steven.. ok whatever!! why to hide your sexuality Steven by trying to be the stud of watford... You went for Christian, he didn't seduce you.. YOU ARE GAY!! deal with it

I agree about Minty and Heather. He made the right choice. They are fantastic together. Hazel's a self centred, selfish and arrogant woman. I agree Sean can't tell Gus where he can and can' go. He has no right. I hope someone stands up to him soon. Gus should call the police. Sean may be interesting charecter wise but personality wise he's a nutcase. I know he genuinely loved Tanya but his bullying of Gus is just sick. I don't want Tanya/Jack together. I like Jack ith Ronnie and Max with Tanya but Jack/Tanya have a lovely brother/sister relationship.

Though I like Steven/Stacey more as friends and I am hoping she can be with Bradley again I don't hate Steven. I'm sometimes annoyed if he does things he shouldn't but he has a lot of problems. He'll alwys be a bit unstable but I suppose because of the way he is it is understandable that he's in denial that he is gay or bi or whatever. I still have sympathy for him though I can't condone it if he does wrong.

[Dutchgirl]

I really liked last night.. my heart went out to poor Heather and I was so happy when Minty picked her in the end.. nice to see the "not so pretty" girl win in the end...

Sean with Gus.. WTF.. he can't tell him where he can and can't go.. Gus, pack up yourself and your dog and get out of there now or bring in your Aunt to kick Sean's ass.. nasty man :angry:

Tanya and Jack... mmmmmm something is going to happen there me thinks.. Stacey and Steven.. ok whatever!! why to hide your sexuality Steven by trying to be the stud of watford... You went for Christian, he didn't seduce you.. YOU ARE GAY!! deal with it

I didn't wanted to repeat myself but you are so right, what does Sean have over Gus that he treats him like this? I'm so embarrassed for him. Sean needs a kick in his ***. Please Eastenders do not continue this storyline.:sick:

Poor Stacey she does not need this.

[tammyy2j]

Shirley and Heather were great last night.

I'm glad Minty made the right decision. :thumbsup: :cheer:

Roxy/Sean/Gus storyline very boring as is the Steven/Stacey storyline

I must admit i can see chemistry between Tanya/Jack

[Lizzie Brookes]

Ronnie and Jack are better as a couple I agree.

[lizann]

I'm so glad Minty choose Heather :cheer:

Heather is one the best characters in EE at present. :thumbsup: :cheer:

Tanya/Jack/Ronnie - I don't really want to see this love triangle

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Tanya/Jack/Ronnie - I don't really want to see this love triangle
100% agree with you on that comment!:thumbsup:

[Ruffed_lemur]

I'm so glad Minty choose Heather :cheer:

Heather is one the best characters in EE at present. :thumbsup: :cheer:


Yes, it was such a lovely moment when Minty proposed to Heather! :)

[Perdita]

Surely Minty's and Heather's wedding is not legal seeing Heather called herself Hazel Hobbs and how come the Registrar just smiled and said "Well, seeing we are here" and carried on despite knowing the truth? And that woman from the magazine had no problem with it! I am really despairing at the storylines in EE at the moment. :wall:

Heather looked gorgeous though in her wedding outfit and I hope that the scriptwriters let them have a happy relationship, whether legally married or not.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I'm so glad Minty and Heather finally married. They are so right together. Ok maybe Minty doesn't love her but he does like her and liking can develop into love. Queenie is so horrible. I hope she is axed soon. I don't believe Steven was thinking of Christian when Stacey kissed him even if he is bi. It's just Christian winding him up. I know Christian doesn't know Steven has/had mental problems but people like Steven still have to be handled with kid gloves. I would be careful round him. Gus is right - Sean is dangerous. I was sorry for Sean when Tanya dumped him and when he confided to Tanya that he manslaughtered his dad but his bullying of Gus is really bad. He's more crazy than Steven these days. So, Roxy's been on drugs before - maybe that was Ronnie's secret so it's implied - sounds a bit like Tanya and Raine. Jack should have told Ronnie he fired Sean for drug dealing.

[Florijo]

Gus is an idiot. I feel for the bloke alot but what did he achieve by doing that? If he wants Sean sorted out he needs to go and talk to Stacey or Mo.

Still don't like the wedding lark. Queenie is vile (can iamgine her and Sean locked in a room together. Who would win?:ninja: ) Phil and Shirley are a great match.

Am tired of seeing Stacey playing games. She changed her mind cos she saw Bradley.

[chimmers]

Every once in a while we get the cocaine story in Eastenders, weren't Juley and Tariq doing it a while back, before that it was Janine.....

[slater girl]

Great episode tonight, loved the wedding, i loved it when ronnie decks sean, pure class.

Also cannot believe the way stacey acted tonight by kissing steven in front of bradley just to make him jealous and playing games to wind bradley up, has'nt she realised he has been through enough, i think stacey still loves bradley deep down, perhaps when steven goes she will realise what she had lost in losing bradley as i have heard they get back together later on this year.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Great episode tonight, loved the wedding, i loved it when ronnie decks sean, pure class.

Also cannot believe the way stacey acted tonight by kissing steven in front of bradley just to make him jealous and playing games to wind bradley up, has'nt she realised he has been through enough, i think stacey still loves bradley deep down, perhaps when steven goes she will realise what she had lost in losing bradley as i have heard they get back together later on this year.

Bradley knows Stacey's stringing Steven along and that down deep insiode she still loves Bradley but Bradley was too decent to do that to Claire. It isn't fair on Steven. She knows he is unstable. I too hope Stacey and Bradley get back together but i am sorry Steven's leaving. He is one of my favourite charecters now. I loved the wedding and I'm glad Ronnie slapped Sean - he had it comming. I don't think he dealt any drugs to Roxy though did he?

[Abbie]

Tanya/Jack/Ronnie - I don't really want to see this love triangle

It would be so dull

[Chris_2k11]

Finally Ronnie becomes interesting! whacking Sean was the best thing shes done yet :D

[Lizzie Brookes]

Tanya/Jack/Ronnie - I don't really want to see this love triangle

It would be so dull

I don't think it would happen fortunately. Tanya only loves Max. She was attracted to Sean and it was horrible of her to use him to get back at Max but I think definitely Tanya is a one man woman.

[Siobhan]

I loved last night.. I loved that Minty still chose Heather, I loved that Heather finally stood up to her mum..just one thing, is this marriage legal?? after all she married as Hazel Hobbs not her real name.

Loved the punch Ronnie gave Sean.. hate how he is treating Gus... all in all, a good show

[*-Rooney-*]

this wedding stuff has confused me from the start,

[Perdita]

this wedding stuff has confused me from the start,

Minty and Hazel were going to get married and entered the competition to win the wedding expenses. Hazel left after realising she could not give Minty a baby which he would like, Minty and everybody else thought she will be back soon and did not tell the magazine about Hazel's disappearance. When the mag sent a photographer to take pictures of the happy couple, Heather stepped in and pretended to be Hazel and has done since. So now Minty married Hazel Hobbs who in reality is Heather, hence I question the legality of this marriage. :confused:

[parkerman]

As Minty and Hazel Hobbs were pronounced man and wife perhaps he is really married to her...er...

[Perdita]

As Minty and Hazel Hobbs were pronounced man and wife perhaps he is really married to her...er...

On the surface this could be true but who signed the register? Which name did Heather use? Did she commit forgery as well as whatever she did when she called herself Hazel Hobbs during the exchange of the wedding vows?

[parkerman]

This is getting too much for me...:confused: :searchme:

I'm sure the Eastenders scriptwriters know what they're doing...on second thoughts...

[CrazyLea]

I hate Ronnie, but that was some punch :cheer:.

Hope Minty doesn't leave Heather :(.

I really wanna see Jack and Tanya together. Don't think it's going to happen though.

[StarsOfCCTV]

On the surface this could be true but who signed the register? Which name did Heather use? Did she commit forgery as well as whatever she did when she called herself Hazel Hobbs during the exchange of the wedding vows?

I'm not totally sure about wedding rules but if she did use Hazel's name then I think their marrige is void.

[Abbie]

Awww Minty and Heather was soo sweet

[Abbie]

eh! How random was ronnie and jack!

[StarsOfCCTV]

It's Ronnie I feel sorry for in this mess. Jack's after Tanya and then when he doesn't get her he randomly sleeps with Roxy just because they are both wound up.

Poor Heather. It's really a one-sided relationship. Maybe Minty shouldn't have married either of them.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I'm definitely watching the omnibus because I liked today's episode. The Sean/Gus scenes were not as violent as I expected. Though i still hate Sean's buullying of Gus, today when he was reading that poetry and talking - I couldn't help feeling worried about Sean and I think Gus was too. Obviously he was scared and angry - who wouldn't be? But his eyes - he looked like he ws going crazy and the way Gus looked at him in silence. I think Gus can see he is cracking up and despite being angry and afraid he is worried about Sean too. I liked the Beales scenes. I wish Steven hadn't made that homophobic comment but I'm glad he stood up to Christian. It is not nice of Christian to continually wind him up. I knew Jack and Tanya wouldn't kiss though they came lose - Tanya loves Max and Jack won't do that to his brother - he's quite decent in that way. I'm glad of it. They have a lovely brother/sister relationship and this would just ruin that.

[Florijo]

I warmed to Shirley/Vinnie a bit but Vinne still feels like a spare part to me. I wish someone would actually mention that legally Heather and Minty are not married. I cannot believe not even they themselves have mentioned this:rolleyes:

Dislike Jack. Roxy/Jack was just stupid. Feel for Ronnie. I think Roxy drinks more than anyone in the show and that is an achievment. The Beale family meal was interesting but Christian is bang out of order.

Feel so sorry for Gus. It is good he gets a decent exit storyline (more than Pretti got) It will be interesting to see what the Slaters say about all of this if they find out.

[Katy]

Sean is so horrible to Gus.

Loved Ronnie, she is really growing on me as a character.

[Abbie]

Still cant stand ronnie and sean is getting worse :thumbsdow

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

eh! How random was ronnie and jack!
She kisses him.. Jack pushes her against the wall and then they make out.
So sudden and fast and just STUPID! Seriously, what was the point in it?! I feel sorry for Ronnie in all of this.

[Perdita]

eh! How random was ronnie and jack!
She kisses him.. Jack pushes her against the wall and then they make out.
So sudden and fast and just STUPID! Seriously, what was the point in it?! I feel sorry for Ronnie in all of this.

I think it is all frustration, Jack because Ronnie is keeping him at arms length at the moment and Roxy is feeling bullied by Ronnie who cares for her sister but is probably stifling her somewhat, checking her handbag and relling her off for drinking too much, at least in Roxy's opinion. Not the right thing to do to take your frustration out with your sister's fella and the two of them will have to pay the consequences, that is for sure.

[Perdita]

Why did Shirley spoil Garry's date with the photographer? What business is it of hers to tell lies about him? I know Garry is somewhat of a pratt but he still deserves a bit of romance in his life, like everybody in this world.

[Abbie]

eh! How random was ronnie and jack!
She kisses him.. Jack pushes her against the wall and then they make out.
So sudden and fast and just STUPID! Seriously, what was the point in it?! I feel sorry for Ronnie in all of this.

I think it is all frustration, Jack because Ronnie is keeping him at arms length at the moment and Roxy is feeling bullied by Ronnie who cares for her sister but is probably stifling her somewhat, checking her handbag and relling her off for drinking too much, at least in Roxy's opinion. Not the right thing to do to take your frustration out with your sister's fella and the two of them will have to pay the consequences, that is for sure.

Okay I can understand the frustration, but it wasnt acted out well, didnt look frustrated as that scene should of been to lead to that moment, it ended up looking to random

[Ruffed_lemur]

I warmed to Shirley/Vinnie a bit but Vinne still feels like a spare part to me. I wish someone would actually mention that legally Heather and Minty are not married. I cannot believe not even they themselves have mentioned this:rolleyes:

I wish they would mention about Heather and Minty's "marriage" too. I would like to see them have another informal wedding to make it legal. Maybe it will happen...

[parkerman]

I warmed to Shirley/Vinnie a bit but Vinne still feels like a spare part to me. I wish someone would actually mention that legally Heather and Minty are not married. I cannot believe not even they themselves have mentioned this:rolleyes:

I wish they would mention about Heather and Minty's "marriage" too. I would like to see them have another informal wedding to make it legal. Maybe it will happen...
Maybe it is going to be used as a way of ending the marriage should the producers and scriptwriters deem it necessary.

[Abbie]

I warmed to Shirley/Vinnie a bit but Vinne still feels like a spare part to me. I wish someone would actually mention that legally Heather and Minty are not married. I cannot believe not even they themselves have mentioned this:rolleyes:

I wish they would mention about Heather and Minty's "marriage" too. I would like to see them have another informal wedding to make it legal. Maybe it will happen...

What if she signed the papers in her name?

[Perdita]

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[Dutchgirl]

Every once in a while we get the cocaine story in Eastenders, weren't Juley and Tariq doing it a while back, before that it was Janine.....
True enough!
But did we aave a suicide story yet?

I truly do not hope this will be the first one.
Sean is evil, please let him stop it!

[Abbie]

Hmmm good be, unless they ease of the marriage stuff for a while and its something else

[tammyy2j]

WTF Jack/Roxy :thumbsdow

Jack has completely gone down in my books now

Loving Ronnie great character she deserves better :thumbsup: :cheer:

[Perdita]

removed.. Please use spoiler tags Perdita.. This is current episode discussion

Sorry, did not realise. :o

[Lizzie Brookes]

I wish Christian hadn't done that. It is Steven's decision not his and it is not Christian's place to interfere. It was just one kiss. Steven didn't cheat on her. I still think they are better as friends though and I hope this means Stacey and Bradley eventually get back together. I thought Ian was going to find out what was happening but he went away when the noise stopped. Good thing Stacey went in. She was probably shocked. Sean did not have psycho eyes today like he did on Friday - that is a shame. I wish Claire hadn't thrown away Bradley's Star Trek.

[Perdita]

I wish Christian hadn't done that. It is Steven's decision not his and it is not Christian's place to interfere. It was just one kiss. Steven didn't cheat on her. I still think they are better as friends though and I hope this means Stacey and Bradley eventually get back together. I thought Ian was going to find out what was happening but he went away when the noise stopped. Good thing Stacey went in. She was probably shocked. Sean did not have psycho eyes today like he did on Friday - that is a shame. I wish Claire hadn't thrown away Bradley's Star Trek.

I thought he had when he was out on the street with Wellard and was watching Tanya pushing the pram. The Star Trek stuff only went into the small bin in the living room - easily recoverable which I think it will be.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I wish Christian hadn't done that. It is Steven's decision not his and it is not Christian's place to interfere. It was just one kiss. Steven didn't cheat on her. I still think they are better as friends though and I hope this means Stacey and Bradley eventually get back together. I thought Ian was going to find out what was happening but he went away when the noise stopped. Good thing Stacey went in. She was probably shocked. Sean did not have psycho eyes today like he did on Friday - that is a shame. I wish Claire hadn't thrown away Bradley's Star Trek.

I thought he had when he was out on the street with Wellard and was watching Tanya pushing the pram. The Star Trek stuff only went into the small bin in the living room - easily recoverable which I think it will be.

Did he? I'll have to see it again to make sure. Yes the star trek is easily recoverable from the bin. I hadn't thought of that.

[Katy]

I loved the scene with Stacey and Jean in the bedroom, when she was saying how it was like Romeo and Juliett, Him down their and you in your window. She is soo sweet./

[Dutchgirl]

I really like Christian. The actor portrays him brilliantly. They have have managed to portray a realistic homosexual. I'm loving his storyline. Good that he also emphasized it not being a choice and that yes it is not the easiest way to live your live.:bow:

[lizann]

What is the point of Claire she is an annoying useless character. Take a hint Bradley not interested.

I really wanted and thought Bradley might go after Stacey when he saw her crying i hope they get back together.

Poor Ronnie she deserves better.

I can't believe Jack did that i think he ruined his chances with Ronnie and Tanya (as he proved his is just like his brother Max only Max had feelings for Stacey whereas i doubt Jack feels anything for Roxy)

I want Ronnie to punch Jack and Roxy

Anyone else think there is chemistry between Ronnie and Sean?????

Poor Gus, Sean is a f--cking nut case.

I like Christian character i hope he stays around

[Joanne]

I'm really enjoying Roxy at the moment, and I never thought I would have said that a few weeks ago. I want to see her self-destruct in a Courtney Love kind of way!

[Lizzie Brookes]

Gus is right. Sean is losing his mind. Even Roxy said he was acting weird. I really hope he manages to get some help. I had a sliver of sympathy for him today though Stacey was right to slap him. I wish Steven hadn't lied. He has only recently regained Ian and Jane's trust. He is obviously still not well. I don't believe he is pretending to be better because all the shaking and everything has gone. He is better but i don't think he is fully stable. I have a feeling he is starting to relapse a bit because he went off his medication. Was Tanya about to take Stacey's hand? It wasn't quite clear. I wonder why Stacey said no. I'm glad the ice is starting to break between Tanya and Stacey. I'm also glad Stacey did not tell anyone else what her brother was about to do. Sean ran away when he saw Stacey - I don't think he could kill Gus in front of her. He does have affection for his sister.

[Chris_2k11]

Stacey - absolutely bang out of order tonight. Telling Gus he couldn't ring the police, barging into Tanya's house like that and THEN announcing Sean's moving back in the Slaters without even bothering to ask Charlie or Mo. Sorry but who does she think she is?

[Lizzie Brookes]

Stacey - absolutely bang out of order tonight. Telling Gus he couldn't ring the police, barging into Tanya's house like that and THEN announcing Sean's moving back in the Slaters without even bothering to ask Charlie or Mo. Sorry but who does she think she is?

I can't blame her for begging Gus not to call the police. It is obvious Sean needs help and I think police involvement at this stage would tip him over the edge. She shouldn't have barged into Tanya's house I agree. That was wrong. As for the Slaters, she should have had a word with Charlie and Mo in private and explained what was going on and what Sean was going to do and asked if Sean could stay but told them not to confront him about it.

[StarsOfCCTV]

Roxy's liver must be shot to pieces the amount she drinks! :lol: Glad she turned Sean and his drugs down.

I agree with Lizzie on Sean. No matter what he does Stacey will always love him and try to help him. She could have gone about it a bit better yes, but she probably felt out of her depth.

I can't believe Steven said Christian came onto him :eek: What a cliffhanger to end on!

[Siobhan]

Stacey - absolutely bang out of order tonight. Telling Gus he couldn't ring the police, barging into Tanya's house like that and THEN announcing Sean's moving back in the Slaters without even bothering to ask Charlie or Mo. Sorry but who does she think she is?

yeah she was bang out of order but she was trying to protect her brother... I feel sorry for her. She has a lot to cope with for such a young person, her dad dying and now it seems not only is her mother but also her brother who has some mental issues

Steven saying about Christian :angry::angry: how dare he!!! he was begging him and Christian did the right thing saying he was nearly his uncle and it wasn't right

[Dutchgirl]

Was Tanya about to take Stacey's hand? It wasn't quite clear. I wonder why Stacey said no.
I think it would have been to uncomftorable for Stacey because she knows that she was wrong and betrayed Tanya with Max. That is how I see it anyway.

[Siobhan]

Was Tanya about to take Stacey's hand? It wasn't quite clear. I wonder why Stacey said no.
I think it would have been to uncomftorable for Stacey because she knows that she was wrong and betrayed Tanya with Max. That is how I see it anyway.

Yeah.. she felt she didn't deserve Tanya sympathy...

[JustJodi]

Gus should have developed a back bone and called the cops as soon as Stacey left the apartment.So what if Gus shops him.I know Stacey was trying to protect Sean,but some times TOUGH LOVE helps in the long run.As long as Stacey is around to "bail" him out Sean will always be on the brink of totally going off the rails .
Sean is really really really messed up,, he and Steven should get a room together in the mental health ward..
Yea Stacey was out of order barging in the Vic,, and barging in Tanya's home,,also dragging Sean back to the Statlers was not on either...Who does she think she is ??

What the heck was Steven playing at:angry: :angry: :angry: Christian did the right thing letting him down easily. Steven does not handle rejection very well . Mo " hes gone all Graham Norton":lol:

[JustJodi]

Yeah.. she felt she didn't deserve Tanya sympathy..

I agree with you Siobhan,,I also wondered how close Tanya was telling Stacey about Seans secret :hmm: :searchme:

[tammyy2j]

There is too many nutters in Eastenders at present with Steven and Sean (both crap storylines btw)

I really wanted Tanya to tell Stacey about Sean killing their dad it would be a good revenge for her

[Lizzie Brookes]

There is too many nutters in Eastenders at present with Steven and Sean (both crap storylines btw)

I really wanted Tanya to tell Stacey about Sean killing their dad it would be a good revenge for her

It wouldn't be right. Sean told her that in confidence and why hurt Stacey like that just for revenge? What's the point? Sean did not actually intend to kill his dad. I like the Sean storyline better than the Steven one at the moment. Sean couldn't do it in front of his sister because he loves her but copuld do with some help i agree.

[sindydoll]

gus should of phoned the police or at least phones mickey to stay with him for the night

[Ruffed_lemur]

Was Tanya about to take Stacey's hand? It wasn't quite clear. I wonder why Stacey said no.
I think it would have been to uncomftorable for Stacey because she knows that she was wrong and betrayed Tanya with Max. That is how I see it anyway.

Yes, it looked that way. It was a nice moment to see between the two of them though. Tanya seeing the vulnerable side of Stacey, and reaching out to her.

[Ruffed_lemur]

gus should of phoned the police or at least phones mickey to stay with him for the night

Yes, after what Gus had been through, to be with a friend would have been a good idea.

[*-Rooney-*]

he should have taken off and left the square with wellard, far away from sean. Mickey isnt exactly gonna stop sean doing anything if he really wants it done

But maybe went to the police before leaving the square just to make sure sean got what he deserved

[Florijo]

I really hope we get a reveal of what happened with Sean/his dad before he goes. IMO it would be fantastic. Sean, Stacey, Jean, maybe Tanya etc.

[Chris_2k11]

Well Done Gus!

[*-Rooney-*]

i liked gus as a character so im glad he got a good exit, chance to be a success and he didnt just leave in a black cab

[StarsOfCCTV]

i liked gus as a character so im glad he got a good exit, chance to be a success and he didnt just leave in a black cab
Agreed.

I really didn't want Christian to leave! I wanted him to stay and defend himself! I really like the Roxy and Christian partnership. I hope he comes back.

[Florijo]

Jean is brilliant!! Sausage surprise! :D It was interesting seeing the Slaters all under the same roof.

[LostVoodoo]

i liked gus as a character so im glad he got a good exit, chance to be a success and he didnt just leave in a black cab

here here! plus it led to the most Winston-heavy episode in years :lol:

[parkerman]

here here! plus it led to the most Winston-heavy episode in years :lol:

Yes, it was great. The best Eastenders episode in years!:cheer: Let's hope it's the start of big things for Winston. :bow:

That Steven is a nasty piece of work; the way he let Christian take the blame....


(Stands back and waits for verbal assault from Lizzie.....)

[tammyy2j]

OMG Winston spoke (best actor soap awards)

I'm glad Gus finally grew a pair and got Sean back :thumbsup: :cheer:

I hope Christian returns he is a great character and i like his relationship with Roxy very Will and Grace

Ian is a hypocrite, Jane had to welcome nutter Steven after he shot her and kidnapped Ian into the family and her home and then Ian makes her get rid of Christian. Jane deserves so much better than Ian.

Tiffany was brillant she is definitely the best child actor on the show even better than some of the older tools :thumbsup: :cheer:

[*-Rooney-*]

OMG can u believe i missed winston speak lol
(the highlight of the decade and i miss it)

The tiffany scenes were so cute, move over abi we have a new winner.
mrs massod should not have said that about watering her plants when she had a bucket of water she is only a kid (ok so she did do it to be a pest but she doesnt need to know that)

[parkerman]

OMG can u believe i missed winston speak lol
(the highlight of the decade and i miss it)



Not just speak! He had two whole scenes with dialogue!:cheer:

[Siobhan]

OMG can u believe i missed winston speak lol
(the highlight of the decade and i miss it)



Not just speak! He had two whole scenes with dialogue!:cheer:

:lol::lol: I was thinking of you last night Parkerman when he came on.. I knew you would be pleased

[Siobhan]

Ian is a hypocrite, Jane had to welcome nutter Steven after he shot her and kidnapped Ian into the family and her home and then Ian makes her get rid of Christian. Jane deserves so much better than Ian.



This totally annoyed me especially Ian's bigotted attitude.. saying to christian that he is not to go near the kids party cause he is gay and came on to steven.. Steven was soooooo pleased, I wonder why?? maybe cause he knew Daddy took his side and he doesn't have to face any question.. Tell the truth Steven

[Joanne]

I was disappointed that Jane just accepted Steven's story so easily as well and sided with him and Ian against Christian. Have they forgotten how devious Steven can be? Jane had him living with her while Ian was locked up, she more than anyone knows what a good liar he is.

[lizann]

Well at least Roxy took a morning after pill - wonder will it work :hmm:

I like the character of Christian hope he returns

Ian was ass as usual

[Dutchgirl]

I like Christian very much. He is such a good character. He told Roxy he came on to David when he was younger, so maybe Jane is still mad about that. But he is older now. She should not trust Steven at all, that smirk on his face should have alerted Jane.

[Ruffed_lemur]

Well at least Roxy took a morning after pill - wonder will it work :hmm:

I like the character of Christian hope he returns

Ian was ass as usual

Yes, it was good to see Roxy taking a morning after pill.

[Florijo]

I may be being thick but what did actually happen with the cocaine? Did Jean put cocaine in the cake? Did he sell baking powder to that guy in the park and what did he pour down the sink.:confused:

[Joanne]

I think he replaced the cocaine with baking powder but didn't put the whole tub of baking powder in the bag so a small bit was left which Jean used for the cake.

He obviously still had the coke cos he was seen dealing later on.

I don't get when he would have swapped it over though if he was locked in his room?

[JustJodi]

good episode, I just do not know what the HELL IS WRONG with Ian,, HAS HE FORGOTTEN his mixed up step son nearly killed his wife and left her childless ???
I am really really really looking forward to seeing the end of Steven ......
Poor lil Ben ......he wants to be like BILLY ELLIOT but doesn't want his MACHO dad to know.

I do hope that Christian comes back,, i really like this guy ..I love watching him and Roxy together,, they are so funny......
I am sorry Bianca and Rickayyyyyyyyyyy fans,, I can not stand Bianca. Shes just pure RUBBISH..
Clare is really pulling wool over Dots eyes about Bradley isn't she:hmm: I do not think Bradley should have any thing to do with Clare ...:nono:

[parkerman]

I don't get when he would have swapped it over though if he was locked in his room?

Yes, that's what I couldn't understand. When was this swap made?



I am sorry Bianca and Rickayyyyyyyyyyy fans,, I can not stand Bianca. Shes just pure RUBBISH..


I'm with you on this one. Bianca is just dreadful. Why does she have to speak at 1,000,000 decibels ALL the time???:searchme:

And what about Lizzie's darling Steven now? :hmm:

[Joanne]

Well, he's just a vile creep isn't he!

[di marco]

Well at least Roxy took a morning after pill - wonder will it work :hmm:

I like the character of Christian hope he returns

Ian was ass as usual

Yes, it was good to see Roxy taking a morning after pill.

yes, but then she got drunk and threw up so it wont work, so what i dont understand is if she was willing to take it the first time why she didnt take it again after being sick?

[JustJodi]

Steven should be locked up for the rest of his natural life, and if Ian forgives him for him hiding Lucy away , he should be locked up too,,Steven is SERIOUSLY MESSED UP IN THE HEAD,, and I feel NO SYMPATHY for the guy.
Hmmmmmmm Bring back Christian, I want Ian to humble himself and APOLOGIZE..Ian is a prat as always,,:wall:

[JustJodi]

Yes, it was good to see Roxy taking a morning after pill.[/quote]

yes, but then she got drunk and threw up so it wont work, so what i dont understand is if she was willing to take it the first time why she didnt take it again after being sick?

She might not have thought about it :hmm: She was pretty hung over ...:searchme: I guess time will tell if the MORNING AFTER pill worked:hmm:

[kayuqtuq]

Steven is evil, I can't wait to see the back of him. And what's with that hair cut? He looks like he's wearing a helmet.

Can't stand Roxy either, all she does is drink and shout. I wish they'd get rid of her, too.

Carol :cool:

[StarsOfCCTV]

Yes, it was good to see Roxy taking a morning after pill.

yes, but then she got drunk and threw up so it wont work, so what i dont understand is if she was willing to take it the first time why she didnt take it again after being sick?

She might not have thought about it :hmm: She was pretty hung over ...:searchme: I guess time will tell if the MORNING AFTER pill worked:hmm: [/QUOTE]

The pill was in powder form so I would've thought being sick wouldn't affect it because it would already be in her system...?

But if she slept with Jack on the Friday/Monday (those two episodes overlapped), then she's stretching the time limit because it's three days and she took it on the Thursday...

[Dutchgirl]

Steven is evil, I can't wait to see the back of him. And what's with that hair cut? He looks like he's wearing a helmet.

Can't stand Roxy either, all she does is drink and shout. I wish they'd get rid of her, too.

Carol :cool:
Well if it is about shouting they should get rid of Bianca she shouts without even being drunk.
She doesn't respect other people's property as well. No wonder she was kicked out her last address. She really annoys me.:thumbsdow

[JustJodi]

:rolleyes:

Steven is evil, I can't wait to see the back of him. And what's with that hair cut? He looks like he's wearing a helmet.

Can't stand Roxy either, all she does is drink and shout. I wish they'd get rid of her, too.

Carol :cool:
Well if it is about shouting they should get rid of Bianca she shouts without even being drunk.
She doesn't respect other people's property as well. No wonder she was kicked out her last address. She really annoys me.:thumbsdow

I totally agree with U Dutchgirl,, arrrrrghhhhhI wanna see the back of Bianca,, shes a horrible character,, she might have gotten away with that rubbish 9 yrs ago,, but shes supposed to be a grown woman with kiddies..
Roxy spends more time getting drunk, hollering, getting laid, and trying to get people to feel sorry for her ..its all about Roxy,, :rolleyes:

[Chloe O'brien]

Oh by the looks of things the writers of EE have made another ****-up by bringing back an old character. The re-introduction of Bianca and crew have not been well received as hoped they would. I will give it until the end of August/September for EE to ditch Bianca, Ricky and her crew as well as Roxy and Ronnie.

[Florijo]

^What? They've been back five minutes! Give it a chance.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Why does Wellard keep following Bianca around?

[Abbie]

Why does Wellard keep following Bianca around?

Must recognise her smell or something

[Joanne]

Wellard was Robbie's dog - Bianca's brother.

He must remember her.

[Chris_2k11]

What did Bianca write on the car?

[*-Rooney-*]

I think she wrote I am filthy

[parkerman]

So Steven has been planning his revenge on Ian all along...


Which reminds me, we haven't seen Lizzie on this topic for a while...:hmm:

[Siobhan]

So Steven has been planning his revenge on Ian all along...


Which reminds me, we haven't seen Lizzie on this topic for a while...:hmm:


God I love saying "I told you so" in respect to this...

[JustJodi]

So Steven has been planning his revenge on Ian all along...


Which reminds me, we haven't seen Lizzie on this topic for a while...:hmm:


God I love saying "I told you so" in respect to this...

Shiv i say DITTO to what u just said :rotfl:

[Perdita]

So Steven has been planning his revenge on Ian all along...


Which reminds me, we haven't seen Lizzie on this topic for a while...:hmm:


God I love saying "I told you so" in respect to this...

Shiv i say DITTO to what u just said :rotfl:

So do I :lol:

[Abbie]

So Steven has been planning his revenge on Ian all along...



I know, I was quite shocked at this

[Lizzie Brookes]

So Steven has been planning his revenge on Ian all along...


Which reminds me, we haven't seen Lizzie on this topic for a while...:hmm:


God I love saying "I told you so" in respect to this...

Shiv i say DITTO to what u just said :rotfl:

:rolleyes:

[Pinkbanana]

So Steven has been planning his revenge on Ian all along...


Which reminds me, we haven't seen Lizzie on this topic for a while...:hmm:


God I love saying "I told you so" in respect to this...

Shiv i say DITTO to what u just said :rotfl:

So do I :lol:

Likewise!!! :D

[JustJodi]

whoa..... what a cliff hanger,,, does he or doesn't he snuff the life out of his loving Nana Pat :confused:

Steven is a real bad bad lad, hope he is caught in the act and thrown in the funny farm and they THROW THE KEY away foreverrrrr..

Poor lil ol Ben,, :rolleyes: Roxy tried to make him feel better, but failed badly obviously,,,:searchme:

[Siobhan]

Fun farm is not enough for him.. he needs to totally shut off from people. As for the issue with "the shaken has stop so he must be well".. man if you gave that guy a basket of fruit last night he would have made smoothies with all the shaken he did... I do have to say that the actor is really good, he did a good job switching on and off like that.. from his mental state, to be the dutiful grandson

This was planned way in advance, this happened before the kiss, sleeping with stacey so he can't blame his mental state on that....

Poor Ben, he really wants to please his dad

[JustJodi]

I do have to say that the actor is really good, he did a good job switching on and off like that.. from his mental state, to be the dutiful grandson

I totally agree with this,,

This was planned way in advance, this happened before the kiss, sleeping with stacey so he can't blame his mental state on that....

His hatred for Ian must really really really run deep !!!!

[Siobhan]

His hatred for Ian must really really really run deep !!!!

I don't think it is a hatred of Ian, I think it is more of a possession of Ian.. he wants him for himself cause he really dad rejected him....

[JustJodi]

His hatred for Ian must really really really run deep !!!!

I don't think it is a hatred of Ian, I think it is more of a possession of Ian.. he wants him for himself cause he really dad rejected him....

makes more sense,, yep, sure does,,again I was not around when all the Cindy & Ian stuff happened,, I am picking things up as I go along :D

[Lizzie Brookes]

His hatred for Ian must really really really run deep !!!!

I don't think it is a hatred of Ian, I think it is more of a possession of Ian.. he wants him for himself cause he really dad rejected him....

I do not believe Steven is evil. He has relapsed because he went off his medication. I think he is unwell again not evil and since he is ill I am in sympathy with him though I dpo not condone his actions. I agree that he does not hate Ian - rather he is possessive of Ian.

[Katy]

I really felt for Roxy in last nights episode, Phil was at tad out of order shouting at her. Ben needs to get a grip he annopys me so much.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I really felt for Roxy in last nights episode, Phil was at tad out of order shouting at her. Ben needs to get a grip he annopys me so much.

Roxy won't get into trouble with the police for running Pat over will she?

[Katy]

nah, it was an accident and she wasnt going to fast so she wasnt doing anything illegal. as long as the breathaliser is clear/

[Siobhan]

I do not believe Steven is evil. He has relapsed because he went off his medication. I think he is unwell again not evil and since he is ill I am in sympathy with him though I dpo not condone his actions. I agree that he does not hate Ian - rather he is possessive of Ian.

Locking your sister up and telling her she is not wanted? killing your nan? so that is not evil???? I beg to differ

[Lizzie Brookes]

I do not believe Steven is evil. He has relapsed because he went off his medication. I think he is unwell again not evil and since he is ill I am in sympathy with him though I do not condone his actions. I agree that he does not hate Ian - rather he is possessive of Ian.

Locking your sister up and telling her she is not wanted? killing your nan? so that is not evil???? I beg to differ

You can differ if you like - fine by me. I was a bit shocked by what he was about to do but though his actions are blatantly wrong it doesn't make him evil if he is not mentally in the right frame of mind. I do not believe he kidnapped Lucy - I think she ran away but contacted Steven and that unfortunately by that time Steven was ill again. I mostly blame this on lazy scriptwriting - he was supposed to be a redeeming charecter. His actions may be evil but he is not - he is clearly not well.

[Siobhan]

Ok..lets go back to May and Stella.. clearly both unwell but they did acts of evil.. I don't see how steven is any different...

[Lizzie Brookes]

Ok..lets go back to May and Stella.. clearly both unwell but they did acts of evil.. I don't see how steven is any different...

I know you do not like Steven but I still can't help sympathising with him. I had sympathy for May too - actually May is still one of my favourite charecters. This relapse happened because Steven went off his meds which he shouldn't have done. I can't like Stella because she abused Ben and Ben was a child. These things are complex. I have never ever condoned anyone's wrong actions - I sympathise with some but not others for a multitude of reasons. Janine for example I was very slightly sorry for at Frank's funeral but otherwise no because she had so many chances - from Terry, Billy etc and just wasted them - I am sure Steven would have been glad to have half the chances Janine did. Look with some there are qualities that still make ome people slightly sorry for them.

Sean for instance. I hated his bullying of Gus and with Sean he was going to kill Gus because he was insane but he did not do it in front of Stacey. Sean has some redeeming qualities;

He does not bully or show violence toward women
He truly loved Tanya
He genuinely loves Stacey.

So, though i can dislike him at times when he does wrong and be sorry for him at times when he shows he is not evil he still has those redeeming qualities. With Steven he is part of the Beale family whatever he has done. He is not a stranger like Stella. I know what he tries to do to Pat is shiocking - I did squirm a bit but on the other hand he has never shown any kind of violence towards anyone, least of all women. He may sometimes be unable to control his anger like when he trashed his on stall but he was in shock when he witnessed Pat's accident. He ignored both Lucy and Ian's calls and sat on the bench, shaking. It is true that when he thought Pat was a danger to him....but remember he was off his meds and unwell - not an excuse but a reason. With May I have sympathy because she is infertile and basically I have slightly more empathy with her. May, Steven and Sean do not hurt children - one redeeming feature.

There are very few people I actually hate and mainly because they have no good qualities. With Stella there was no good quality. Trevor and Craig I had to hate because Trevor was an abusive person and Craig was a psychopath. Both were strangers, not a member of a family in the square. It was wrong of Steven to lie to Lucy but I do not believe that he would actually hurt her. We will have to agree to dffer on this. By ther way that is the reason partly that I have not posted here that much. I have still been reading these boards. I just chose to post only on the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread until I agreed with what you said about Steven not hating Ian but being possessive of him.

[JustJodi]

Ok..lets go back to May and Stella.. clearly both unwell but they did acts of evil.. I don't see how steven is any different...

I see no difference between Steven and May and Stella, they are all mentally bent, and yes EVIL ..
Lizzie you can defend Steven and all the evil characters you want but at the end of the day they are EVIL.
Siobhan is right they were unwell and they did acts of evil,but Lizzie no matter now many excuses u come up with for Steven he is pure evil

[Lizzie Brookes]

Ok..lets go back to May and Stella.. clearly both unwell but they did acts of evil.. I don't see how steven is any different...

I see no difference between Steven and May and Stella, they are all mentally bent, and yes EVIL ..
Lizzie you can defend Steven and all the evil characters you want but at the end of the day they are EVIL

I am not condoning anyone's actions. I have sympathy for May and Steven but not Stella. Yes all did wrong. I am not exactly defending any of them. I am only saying that I have sympathy with some people but not others. It is true that Steven needs more help and needs to get back on his medication but as Aaron said I think he genuinely loves his family but has to fight his demons. The only comment I will make is that Aaron is performing Steven really well. I will always have some sympathy for Steven but it is true that he has done wrong and needs help. I'm off to the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread. I'm tired of clashing with people over this.

[tammyy2j]

Had Roxy been drinking?

Poor Pat, Steven should be locked up the Pschyo

I totally forgot about Bianca being related to Steven and Ian, i'm glad it was mentioned.

Sean is becoming so annoying and such a bully. Why the hell doesn't anyone call the cops on him.

[Siobhan]

I am not condoning anyone's actions. I have sympathy for May and Steven but not Stella. Yes all did wrong. I am not exactly defending any of them. I am only saying that I have sympathy with some people but not others. It is true that Steven needs more help and needs to get back on his medication but as Aaron said I think he genuinely loves his family but has to fight his demons. The only comment I will make is that Aaron is performing Steven really well. I will always have some sympathy for Steven but it is true that he has done wrong and needs help. I'm off to the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread. I'm tired of clashing with people over this.

Can I just ask if the reason you don't sympathise with Stella is because she abused a child??? if yes, then what steven is doing to Lucy is also terms as abuse.. he is mentally abusing her into thinking nobody cares and she is better off on her own and please bear in mind Lucy is only 3 years older than Ben, still very much a child

[Siobhan]

Had Roxy been drinking?

Poor Pat, Steven should be locked up the Pschyo

I totally forgot about Bianca being related to Steven and Ian, i'm glad it was mentioned.

Sean is becoming so annoying and such a bully. Why the hell doesn't anyone call the cops on him.

No roxy wasn't drinking.. she had just been out with Ben and Peggy at the dance classes....

[Joanne]

Can I just ask if the reason you don't sympathise with Stella is because she abused a child??? if yes, then what steven is doing to Lucy is also terms as abuse.. he is mentally abusing her into thinking nobody cares and she is better off on her own and please bear in mind Lucy is only 3 years older than Ben, still very much a child

Plus he mentally abused her and Peter previously by making them think that their mother was still alive. Remember when "she" made contact with Lucy saying that she wanted to meet her - Peter was really upset thinking that his mum didn't want to see him.

I agree with the majority that Steven is evil rather than unwell, although I've always used the term rotten! His behaviour leading up to locking Ian up and his behaviour now towards Lucy is both pre-meditated and planned very cunningly . Even last night, the way he got into Pat's cubicle and then asked about closing the curtain, he knew what he was going to do. He didn't act on a moment of impulse. When Pat was knocked down and we then saw Steven sitting on the bench he wasn't sorry for what happened, he wasn't concerned as to the welfare of his Grandmother, his only concern was that his big secret was out and he was about to get rumbled.

[Perdita]

Ok..lets go back to May and Stella.. clearly both unwell but they did acts of evil.. I don't see how steven is any different...

This relapse happened because Steven went off his meds which he shouldn't have done. I can't like Stella because she abused Ben and Ben was a child. These things are complex. I have never ever condoned anyone's wrong actions - I sympathise with some but not others for a multitude of reasons. Janine for example I was very slightly sorry for at Frank's funeral but otherwise no because she had so many chances - from Terry, Billy etc and just wasted them - I am sure Steven would have been glad to have half the chances Janine did. Look with some there are qualities that still make ome people slightly sorry for them.

Sean for instance. I hated his bullying of Gus and with Sean he was going to kill Gus because he was insane but he did not do it in front of Stacey. Sean has some redeeming qualities;

He does not bully or show violence toward women
He truly loved Tanya
He genuinely loves Stacey.

So, though i can dislike him at times when he does wrong and be sorry for him at times when he shows he is not evil he still has those redeeming qualities. With Steven he is part of the Beale family whatever he has done. He is not a stranger like Stella. I know what he tries to do to Pat is shiocking - I did squirm a bit but on the other hand he has never shown any kind of violence towards anyone, least of all women. He may sometimes be unable to control his anger like when he trashed his on stall but he was in shock when he witnessed Pat's accident. He ignored both Lucy and Ian's calls and sat on the bench, shaking. It is true that when he thought Pat was a danger to him....but remember he was off his meds and unwell - not an excuse but a reason. With May I have sympathy because she is infertile and basically I have slightly more empathy with her. May, Steven and Sean do not hurt children - one redeeming feature.
There are very few people I actually hate and mainly because they have no good qualities. With Stella there was no good quality. Trevor and Craig I had to hate because Trevor was an abusive person and Craig was a psychopath. Both were strangers, not a member of a family in the square. It was wrong of Steven to lie to Lucy but I do not believe that he would actually hurt her. We will have to agree to dffer on this. By ther way that is the reason partly that I have not posted here that much. I have still been reading these boards. I just chose to post only on the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread until I agreed with what you said about Steven not hating Ian but being possessive of him.


I have highlighted the points that struck me most. It seems you just excuse Steven's behaviour because he is off his medication. Well, why is nobody picking up on that and asking him whether he is or not? Why do you not make the excuse for all the other creeps, that they should go on medication? Stella, Trevor, Craig you hate because they were abusive and psychopaths, Because Sean, who is insane in your opinion does not kill an innocent guy in front of his sister, this gives him some redeeming qualities? I can't follow your way of thinking, to me they were/are all evil ( from Wikipedia :Evil is a broad term used to indicate a negative moral or ethical judgment, often used to describe intentional acts that are cruel, unjust, or selfish. Evil is usually contrasted with good, which describes intentional acts that are kind, just, or unselfish.), seems a good enough description to me for all of them. And with regards to having chances like Janine did - he was put up by his beloved Nan, was given a job on the market stall, in the fish and chip shop etc, etc. What more could he have wanted?

[kayuqtuq]

Had Roxy been drinking?

No, she turned around to say something to Ben, so she couldn't see where she was going. She'd probably be done for driving without due care and attention, although if Pat ran out into the road without looking she should take a share of the blame for the accident.

Carol :cool:

[Siobhan]

I have highlighted the points that struck me most. It seems you just excuse Steven's behaviour because he is off his medication. Well, why is nobody picking up on that and asking him whether he is or not? Why do you not make the excuse for all the other creeps, that they should go on medication? Stella, Trevor, Craig you hate because they were abusive and psychopaths, Because Sean, who is insane in your opinion does not kill an innocent guy in front of his sister, this gives him some redeeming qualities? I can't follow your way of thinking, to me they were/are all evil ( from Wikipedia :Evil is a broad term used to indicate a negative moral or ethical judgment, often used to describe intentional acts that are cruel, unjust, or selfish. Evil is usually contrasted with good, which describes intentional acts that are kind, just, or unselfish.), seems a good enough description to me for all of them. And with regards to having chances like Janine did - he was put up by his beloved Nan, was given a job on the market stall, in the fish and chip shop etc, etc. What more could he have wanted?

what is selfish about the whole thing is that he flushed his medication in front of Pat and she told him not to but he insisted he was better. You are 100% right about the chances he was given.. Ian and Jane forgave him and took him in, gave him a job.. Considering what he put Ian through, he is luck to get that chance.. Remember Steven was the one to go to N. Zealand and stay there and Steven now wants Ian back and to himself... I find no redeeming quality in him at all.. He has a job, a family who care for him, he did have a girlfriend who supported him and yet he has thrown all this away, including hurting the one person who would do anything for him and protect him Nana Pat!!!

[parkerman]

I find no redeeming quality in him at all...
That's because he has no redeeming qualities. Everything he does is premeditated. He does not act on the spur of the moment. He lies and cheats and now even stoops to murder. You can't just explain this away by saying he is not on his medication. As others have said before he is pure evil.

[StarsOfCCTV]

Had Roxy been drinking?

No, she turned around to say something to Ben, so she couldn't see where she was going. She'd probably be done for driving without due care and attention, although if Pat ran out into the road without looking she should take a share of the blame for the accident.

Carol :cool:

She wasn't looking where she was going but also she was probably still hungover from the night before :lol: 1 unit of alcohol takes one hour to be broken down by the liver and she drinks a lot...so Roxy could still be over the limit even if it's the next day...