Current Episode Discussion VII

[Siobhan]

well if the penny didnt drop during that heated moment between ronnie and dannii then ronnie is a defo dumb blonde:lol:

but why would it drop, as far as ronnie is concerned her daughter died.. so her dad told her

[sindydoll]

well if the penny didnt drop during that heated moment between ronnie and dannii then ronnie is a defo dumb blonde:lol:

but why would it drop, as far as ronnie is concerned her daughter died.. so her dad told her
just the way dannii over reacted it was too far fetched you would know something wasnt right

poor heather!! shirley is so nasty letting the pub know her business she should of pulled the plug out of the socket

[Chris_2k11]

If I was Ronnie I doubt i'd think anything of it. your not gonna suddenly go "oh i get why your overreacting, you must be my daughter" lol

[JustJodi]

I am like every one else, I wish the story line about Dani would finally come to an end,, I am like ok maybe today she will finally spill the beans,,:rolleyes: Does any one else have this feeling that STACEY may end up telling Ronnie the truth???

[di marco]

danielle is acting so weird! i wish peggy would tell archie to stop controlling her :rolleyes:

[Chris_2k11]

So now evil Archie knows! Tonights was brill, loved all the scenes between Archie/Danielle and Archie/Ronnie. cant believe he told Dani that Ronnie tried to kill herself twice! i just cant wait for the climax of it all :eek: they've built it up for so long now, i think its gonna be just as good as the xmas eps. I watched Corrie afterwards and it was just so pale in comparison.

[Chris_2k11]

Check it out!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1FczwO7SHg

[lizann]

Ronnie/Jack/Roxy is a boring storyline - i wish EE would get rid of Jack even if he is the only hottie on the show

I cant wait also for the end of the Danielle/Ronnie storyline

Great scenes between Archie and Danielle - i do feel sorry for Danielle she is becoming quite unhinged

[LostVoodoo]

ahahahaha, how insane is that weddding trailer!?

loved fridays eps, its so hard to get your head around everyone's real feelings and motivations. thank god they perked up this storyline and got dannielle to do some proper acting.

[Dutchgirl]

How evil is Archie? Just as you think he has a soft side he turns around and is mean to Danielle. Nice grandfather. He gives me the creeps. I really want to know how this all will turn out in the end. :hmm:

[Florijo]

Its a shame Archie probs wont be staying as hes a great villian and brings something different to the boring, tired Mitchells. He is mean though but Danniells annoys me. Please for the love of god, just go back to flamming Telfor and some messing about!! She keeps saying she is going back there every other month!

[Abbie]

:eek: Archie just gets even worse!

[Florijo]

It was pretty cruel of him to spin Danielle the lines about working behind the bar..great villian though but class 5 GIT!

[Siobhan]

:eek: Archie just gets even worse!

Gotta love archie. Villian at their best... controlling but done so well that the person doesn't know it... can't wait to see how all this come off...

[Abbie]

Hes really creepy as well

Can I ask what colour are his eyes? They look black to me

[Siobhan]

Hes really creepy as well

Can I ask what colour are his eyes? They look black to me

They probably are.. it is funny seen him in a lot of scene as he has to crouch down a lot.. he is a giant...

[Florijo]

Roxy is incredibly annoying and selfish. Does she even comprehend how much she has hurt her sister.

Bradley's jumper :ninja:

Aww, nice moment with Ronnie, Archie, Roxy and Peggy. Shame it is about to be ruined cos of Danielle and Archie's silly lies.

[lizann]

WTF why did Roxy invite Jack to the wedding as her date :confused: I thought she was trying to mend bridges with her sister Ronnie

[JustJodi]

Uh oh Rickayyyyyyyyyy shared a SECRET with Janine,, oh dear,, bad move bro !!!!!!!!!

[sindydoll]

Uh oh Rickayyyyyyyyyy shared a SECRET with Janine,, oh dear,, bad move bro !!!!!!!!!
i was thinking the same...he's going to live to regret that :lol:

[tammyy2j]

The actress playing Janine is looking stunning at present

[Florijo]

Peggy's "wedding ensemble" was ghastly. PMSL :lol:

If Archie is meant to like the conservative look then what the hell was he doing feeling up Busty Branning last year, who was a right slapper.

Tiff :wub:

Poor Jean. Pat, Sal and Peggy are the three witches :D

[JustJodi]

Peggys wedding outfit was HORRIBLE...... the shoes were something my great grand ma would be caught dead in !!!!!!
Hmmmmmmm danielle is supposed to be 19 yrs old she is acting like a 12 yr old kid...... Actually i will be really glad when this dumb story line is over....its dragged on for so long..... I really wish Stacey would just go and tell Ronnie what she knows and be over with it,, and Danielle should just stop fooling around and go to Ronnie and tell her,, but of course it isn't gonna happen:rolleyes:

[Perdita]

I am glad Peggy comes to her senses and gets herself a new wedding outfit - she looked dreadful :lol: Tiffany is just brilliant and it looks as if Pat is going to take Janine down a peg or two :D

[Perdita]

How evil is Archie, contemplating to strangle Danielle with that cable.

[Siobhan]

How evil is Archie, contemplating to strangle Danielle with that cable.

He is an all time eastend villian... all he needs it to twiddle his mustach :lol:

[sindydoll]

peggy and that outout :sick: :lol: tiffany is brilliant she is so funny

[Siobhan]

Love Tiffany.. she such a good little actress.. Peggy's wedding outfit :lol:how horrid

[LostVoodoo]

How evil is Archie, contemplating to strangle Danielle with that cable.

you would think he would just hit her over the head with something, knock her out so she has to go to hospital and can't come to the wedding, but not kill her!

[Florijo]

Archie :rolleyes: Not being very clever are you. Told yet more lies and then actually thought Danielle would leave. Stupid man!

Peggy as a cheerleader...:ninja: :ninja:

[JustJodi]

I was sorta hoping some one would push Archie under the wheels of some car/bus or something, he is so irritating, so is Danielle with her constant wailing "oh Im sorry I dont know what I'm saying" they are stretching things out ......and I am BORED,, but I am LOOKING FORWARD to Thurs's episode.. hope it is as EXPLOSIVE as EE promises:rolleyes:

That was an interesting HEN NIGHT,, :rotfl:

[Siobhan]

Sorry but is Danielle a bit stupid or what?? She was told by her Grandfather that her mother really doesn't want to see her and yet she insist about saying around.. give the woman space (ok it was a lie but still)

[Perdita]

I am really hacked off with Danielle's character. I know some thick-skinned people but even they would not be so persistent in trying to do something they were told is not wanted. But then I think that ALL of us on here would have told Ronnie a long time ago that she is a mum and her baby did not die. There have been soo many opportunities for Danielle or Stacey to tell Ronnie, in soapland, there is always somebody interfering where it is not wanted, so why not in this seemingly endless storyline. :wall:

[tammyy2j]

I think Danielle has completely gone over the edge - she really only believes than Ronnie wants her

[Dutchgirl]

Oh messed up watching the episodes. I taped them on the computer and watched Tuesdays first. Then started watching Mondays and thought heck wrong way round and deleted it. And now I missed the wedding dress how stupid.:wall: :crying:

[Perdita]

Tonight is THE night, Danielle will spill the beans. I am so glad that all the speculation of who dies and how is going to be over and that this storyline, that started off quite promising but then got more and more boring and unbelievable, is finally coming to an end. :cheer:

[di marco]

Tonight is THE night, Danielle will spill the beans. I am so glad that all the speculation of who dies and how is going to be over and that this storyline, that started off quite promising but then got more and more boring and unbelievable, is finally coming to an end. :cheer:

isnt that a spoiler?

[di marco]

i wish danielle would just tell ronnie herself. i hate hows shes relying on archie and wont accept what hes saying but wont find out for herself either

[Chris_2k11]

Todays the day folks! :cheer:

[JustJodi]

I know the soapboards and ee fans are going to be verrrrrrrrrry quiet for an hour then I expect a flurry of posts .......LOL

Will have my lap top sitting in front of me while I am watching the episode. Lets see who posts first :rotfl:

[Rach33]

and that was the end of that storyline bit miffed she died all that shall I tell her or not dragged on for ages and then she's just gonna get a happy ending bang Janine Evans comes along so EE.

[DaVeyWaVey]

Didn't enjoy it at all tonight. Far too depressing.

[Bryan]

Not sure what to make of it tbh!

I mean it's put Eastenders back on top hasn't it? No doubt about it. It was probs the biggest episode since Christmas 07 with Stacey & Max.

But i mean we've waited a year for this reveal, then she dies. And it's another Butcher running over another Mitchell to death (Frank/Tiff) It's such a cheap trick, and i feel cheated by the writers! Why can't Ronnie have got her happy ending? And why use that way to kill her off? it's all very Skins haha! The one redeming factor to this is we may now see a softer side to Janine, a more vulnerable side. But i don't think I can face a future of seeing Ronnie constantly depressed.

Just look how the episode started, so clam and normal then by the end it was so loud and dramatic, it seemed a bit far fetched and ott, even for soap land.

[Dougie]

OH my god!!!!! well worth the wait, the acting was brilliant especially Sam Janus! just a shame that they will never have the happy ending :o(

[Perdita]

At least Danielle realised that Ronnie knew she is her daughter before she died. Is Janine in trouble now for speeding? Hope she gets done for it anyway.

[angel_eyes87]

God how boring was that episode, I sat through that screaming at the TV, waiting patiently for the best bits to come, I know it will get great ratings, but to be honest it was terrible, the best part of the episode was the last 15 minutes and believe me they dragged on aswell, but I have to admit I was tearing up when she died in her Mums arms.

On a positive note i'm glad the storyline is over, as it dragged on for far too long.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Good acting i suppose but seriously, why put viewers through the longest story line since Max/Stacey and probably the most boring tooo, just to kill her as soon as Ronnie find out. Idiots!

[Johnny Allen]

Loved it, some top acting. This cant be the end of Archie, he's so descipable but such a great character and Larry Lamb is an excellent Actor.

[FuSioNz]

This is the first time something from TV has made me cry truly heartbreaking. I actually thought it was a very good episode but I hated the ending LoL hope she somehow survives!

[hannan]

i havent seen the episode yet, sky plus-ed it so i can watch it later on but wasnt Lauren Crace (danielle) claiming she wanted less boring parts like within the past 3 weeks (posted on the spoilers mid march) surely she cant be killed off so soon

[Chris_2k11]

omg I actually had a tear in my eye, it was so sad!

so what next for Archie?!

[Bryan]

i'm annoyed i read people spectulating on here about janine running her over, i was expecting it long before it happened! i felt sorry for Janine in this episode, she's not done anything that much out of order since she's been back to warrant everyone treating her like total dirt.

[Bad Wolf]

i kew that would happen!! east enders and happy ending's do not happen, it was all a bit liam in corrie for me

brilliant performance from sam janus though, archie i just cant take seriously because o gavin and stacey

[Bad Wolf]

omg I actually had a tear in my eye, it was so sad!

so what next for Archie?!


archie bansished to the continent never to be seen again- maybe france??????

[Joanne]

I was in floods of tears at the end. Samantha Janus has never particularly impressed me before but that scene at the end she played brilliantly.

[Florijo]

Good episode but not as good as Kat/Zoe reveal or STAX reveal. I was annoyed we kept flicking back to STAX. Max/Stacey were not needed in this episode (nor was Tanya). For the Kat/Zoe and STAX reveal we only had those involved in the episode so it seemed strange to have characters that were not really involved (okay Stacey was but they could have just had her getting drunk without the Max stuff). It annoyed me cos the first 30-40 mins of the ep was pretty dull.

The scream at the end was awful....so sad. I wonder what happens now? Janine, well surely Pat and co won't send her packing now. Archie? Well, everyone hates him, even Roxy so I guess he is off too. No idea where this leaves Ronnie..i guess back to Jack (this isn't a spoiler by the way, I'm just guessing....which doesn't fill me with joy as I hate the man and Ronnie/Jack as a relationship.

[Layne]

I had a tear in my eye too - it was sad, sad that Ronnie finally found out and Danielle died :rolleyes: Typical EastEnders though, can't believe the build up to it though - and then the death of Danielle :rolleyes:
I agree i felt bad for Janine, she really hasn't done anything - she is honestly one of the best characters in this soap.

Hope Archie dies now :rolleyes:

[Chloe O'brien]

I didn't see tonights episode, I was going to tune in but something came up. Anyway I'm not going to slag if off before I watch it and from what I have read on here most posts were positive of tonights episode. I expected them to reveal Danielle's secret at Christmas.

[Kim]

I was never a fan of Janine but this has made me hate her even more. She really annoyed me when she forced Darren out of the car lot like that and there is no excuse for upsetting Tiff with the Terrence business and revealing something that Ricky had specifically told her not to; she just seemed so heartless in that she didn't stop to think about what it coming out would do to Whitney.

A very disappointing ending after months of build up, albeit brilliantly acted by both Samantha Janus and Lauren Crace.

I hope Archie dies now too; I think it would make great viewing if Ronnie did it.

[Jessie Wallace]

Just watched this episode, fantqstic, how the heck am i meant to get to sleep now!
Sam was superb

[Perdita]

i'm annoyed i read people spectulating on here about janine running her over, i was expecting it long before it happened! i felt sorry for Janine in this episode, she's not done anything that much out of order since she's been back to warrant everyone treating her like total dirt.

So blackmailing people into signing over a business behind somebody else's back and lying and cheating to even close friends and her brother is not that much out of order? :hmm:

[Siobhan]

I cried at the end.. so ironic.. Ronnie told her daughter is dead, finally finds her only to see her been knocked down and die...:crying:
Archie is an amazing villian.. hope he doesn't go, there is so much potential for him.. poor Janine.. I felt sorry for her, she really didn't mean it, she was speeding, driving in anger but she never meant for this

[JustJodi]

I am reallly stunned .....I am a bit speechless,,, Archie is not going to be any one's FAVORITE at the moment, and Janine ( even tho she STOPPED after she hit Dani)she really didn't MEAN to hit Dani, but mannnnnnnn Ronnies face,, when she sees her daughter hit by the car and only to die in her arms after 18 years,, Man !! I sure would not want to be in Archie's shoes when Ronnie gets back to the Vic.. Archie has lost both of his daughters and grand daughters now,,,and his NEW wife..tuff noogies....
Geeze reading this,, I am obviously not making sense :confused:
Shaking my head at all the other stuff that went on...

[Dutchgirl]

I am reallly stunned .....I am a bit speechless,,, Archie is not going to be any one's FAVORITE at the moment, and Janine ( even tho she STOPPED after she hit Dani)she really didn't MEAN to hit Dani, but mannnnnnnn Ronnies face,, when she sees her daughter hit by the car and only to die in her arms after 18 years,, Man !! I sure would not want to be in Archie's shoes when Ronnie gets back to the Vic.. Archie has lost both of his daughters and grand daughters now,,,and his NEW wife..tuff noogies....
Geeze reading this,, I am obviously not making sense :confused:
Shaking my head at all the other stuff that went on...
Total sense JJ. Samantha Janus did such a good job.
And poor Janine she did not deserve this. She can be such a nasty piece. Darren send her over the edge. He was horrible, he could see that Ricky was pleading with Janine there.
And I do not understand Charlie being shocked by Stacies dress sense Ive seen worse on Kat. Thank goodness she didn't go all the way with Max. Let's not revisit that diaster.
She looked truly grieved when Danielle died. Good on Lacey.
I did not even notice the episode was extended when it was allready half past. It was gripping.

[Siobhan]

It was the smile on both their face when Danielle suddenly realise that Ronnie knew and then the Mum! from Danielle just before she dies in her arms :crying::crying:

[Bryan]

i cant believe the amount of people talking about this on facebook, even people who dont usually watch eastenders watched it last night and had an opinion about it all. i reckon this is going to be one hell of a high rated episode.

whether people love it hate it, it's certainly living up to it's selling line 'Eastenders - everyone's talking about it'.

Can't wait to see the afermath, I'm just gutted we will probably be loosing Larry Lamb, as he's an amazing actor.

Anyone else reckon Pat and Janine will make up now? After all Pat ran someone to death didn't she back in 1993, so they might have some common ground here? Janine tries to make out she's an uber bitch, but behind the facade she's very vulnerable, and we saw this at the end of last night's episode.

[tammyy2j]

What an episode :( - top class acting from Sam and Lauren (Ronnie and Danielle)

I was crying at the end :crying: Will Janine go to jail now even though it was accident

Why didnt Danielle move when she saw the car headlights :confused: she was too overcome with emotion because Ronnie acknowledged her

Stacey the Slapper wearing Kat's reject clothes was back :thumbsdow

In regard to the car lot i thought Janine paid Jack money for it :confused:

[jenig]

I was really disappointed with the ending didn't read on here somewhere that Danielle had been seen on the web cam for May's episodes? Might she survive the crash?

[Katy]

I really enjoyed it, it was so sad at the end really well done.

Thought Ronnie, Roxy, danielle and Stacey were all good at the end

Liked Billy in the episode as well, he made is a bit more humerous.

[sindydoll]

What an episode :( - top class acting from Sam and Lauren (Ronnie and Danielle)

I was crying at the end :crying: Will Janine go to jail now even though it was accident

Why didnt Danielle move when she saw the car headlights :confused: she was too overcome with emotion because Ronnie acknowledged her

Stacey the Slapper wearing Kat's reject clothes was back :thumbsdow

In regard to the car lot i thought Janine paid Jack money for it :confused:
janine wont go to prison because she said that dan stepped out in front of her also dan's state of mind at the time of the accident will help janine too

[Perdita]

In regard to the car lot i thought Janine paid Jack money for it :confused:

Janine blackmailed Jack into signing the car lot over to her after drugging him and tying him to a radiator in his office, where he then confessed to having not been a clean cop. She filmed him on her mobile.

[lizann]

One of the best episodes of Eastenders in a long time - great acting all round

Danielle's death spoilers of Janine being her killer were all true so from the start i expected it to be Janine

That little Dotty is an evil little brat :angry: poor little Tiffany

[sindydoll]

i found it very disappointing wasn't impressed i fast forward some of it :( :( :( :(

[Jessie Wallace]

i was thinking tho, have they never heard of cpr or anything, just to sit there and accept that she is dead without trying anything:searchme:

[shellaroo30]

omg sooo dissapointing they dragged that storyline on and on was not the ending i hoped for and as for archie doesnt he play the bad guy well i hate him sooooo mutch haha wish they had let danielle live ronnie deserves some happiness.

[JustJodi]

i was thinking tho, have they never heard of cpr or anything, just to sit there and accept that she is dead without trying anything:searchme:


I was thinking the same thing Dawny,,
All Ronnie did was scream and cry and apologize,, that was enuff to bring back the dead ??? sorry that was crude but geeze...:(

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

My mum and dad accidently switched channels, saw it on and actually watched it after a good few years exc. Christmas specials!

I just watched it on iPlayer and I am in floods of tears! Amy & Jack - too cute :) Brilliant episode, however..
1) I found it highly predictable and I am annoyed how EE left it so long and then killed Danielle off, stupid and pointless. Ronnie deserves some happiness and it's actually really annoying me, stupid EE writers use your heads and do something else for once.
2) Surely when Janine is driving at the speed she was you should have been able to hear her approach Danielle/Ronnie earlier, so unrealistic.
3) As JW has mentioned, suprised Ronnie perform CPR or something
4) Hate Dotty, get her off! Tiffany - loveee the girl who plays her!
5) Hate Janine, selfish idiot.
6) Archie, hate him too but Larry is an AMAZING actor though!

Samantha is a fab actress, great performance even though it was just crying and things but the timing of emotions was good IMO. Mixed feelings on this really..

[Ruffed_lemur]

It always disappoints me when people in soaps just pronounce someone as dead too. They should at least wait for the ambulance. Really disappointed when it happened with Vera in Coronation st. as I said at the time.

I do think it was a brilliant episode though, and the acting was superb! Really nice that Danielle knew how her Mother felt at the end. :) Hope the episode / storyline gets some awards.

[Abbie]

Ive just watched it. :( god that was good to watch, yes it was slow in parts but I thought it was great towards the end! Very very sad, and Ronnie was amazing, the crying and everything as painful as it was to watch it was acted amazingly.

[RuebenClara]

I think Amy's dad is being too hard on Ronnie. She was only 14 when she had Danielle. What does a 14 year old know? Loosing a child is one of the hardest things to go through in this world. Today's episode had me in tears too!

[Layne]

Not keen on Danielle's dad - think he's shifting his guilt onto Ronnie.
Once again good episode; its storylines like this that show that they really can act.

[Abbie]

I think Amy's dad is being too hard on Ronnie. She was only 14 when she had Danielle. What does a 14 year old know? Loosing a child is one of the hardest things to go through in this world. Today's episode had me in tears too!

I agree! he was way to hard on her and it also made me cry again. It was very sad :(
And to blame ronnie and say she killed him, that was wrong

he hasnt even considered what Danielle, his daughter wanted!

[tammyy2j]

I kinda felt sorry for Janine at the beginning of the episode and not when she helped Archie

I think Roxy should give Ronnie the picture

Great acting again tonight from Sam Janus

I loved the scene with her and Max

[sindydoll]

ian is so funny! so whats with archie and janine i wonder

[Abbie]

I kinda felt sorry for Janine at the beginning of the episode and not when she helped Archie



I feel sorry for her too, I mean it was accident and it must be really tough for her
I was confused when she helped Archie

[Kim]

I feel sorry for Billy stuck in the middle between the two parties. I don't think it will be long before Ronnie resents him for it; she's not going to take too much of Danielle's adoptive father blaming her for it I don't think and sooner or later Ronnie's bound to go into blaming people and herself. I expected her to be pushing Roxy away tonight, it looked like Ronnie didn't want anything to do with her when it all happened. I think Roxy should give her the picture as Ronnie's bound to find it sooner or later herself if not and start to regard Roxy as she did Archie in a way, for keeping things from her.

Not feeling sorry for Janine; she had a point about Stacey but to an extent the damage that she did can be undone; they're all still alive. She was acting as if she hadn't done much wrong it seemed to me; she should be charged for manslaughter at least, if not speeding as well. I felt sorry for her when she went to prison for killing Laura as she hadn't done it but she got away with Barry and I don't think she should be getting away with killing someone twice.

[Chloe O'brien]

EE got 10.6 million viewers last night and if they want to maintain high viewing figures they are going to have to pull their fingers out their butts. Larry Lamb (Archie) is the arch villian of the moment but the writers have to keep him evil otherwise they may as well get rid of him now. We have seen over the years characters brought in to be hardmen then after a couple of months turn into pipsqueaks and that is one of EE's problems. Don't shoot yourself in the foot EE and the viewers might just forgive you for all the duff choices that has been made over the last few years.

[Dutchgirl]

Sam Janus is a good actress. She playes the part in such a humble way it does her credit.

I think that anyone with grieve can lash out. So I feel sympathy for Ronnie and Danielles dad.

Uh oh what is Janine up to? She has been treated harsly , but we'll never forget that she killed Barry without any remorse.

[amylou83]

I have watched Eastenders for 15 years now and along the way i have watched some amazing acting and story lines, and some have been pretty much........no brainers.
I was so amazed at the story line for Ronnie Mitchell, doesn't this character deserve a little bit of happiness? It was so exciting to know that her daughter that she had given away and grieved for all her life was right under her nose. How lovely this is going to be when she finds out that she exists and can start living her life with her............or so most of the UK's viewers thought!

What kind of people are writing the utter tripe that i watched the other night. Dont get me wrong the acting was fantasic, and these characters deserve better story lines. But can someone please explain to me, why these writers feel that when a story line is coming to its climax, to end it so abruptly by killing them off with the usual Eastenders death.....being run over......yawn how boring. It was so good up until that point.

Danielles death was completely un nessary and a waste of our viewing time. So now what does Ronnie do, i can predict, probably go insanely crazy over her daughters death and run Archie over in the square as revenge. When if she had cuddled her long lost daughter outside the tube station it could have been left with a happier and more interesting next part of her life.

To be honest after seeing that episode i am NEVER watching Eastenders again, i have never felt so depressed after watching a soap. Why do the writers feel they need every character to have a cursed life. Its so unimaginative a monkey could write better scripts.........Boring, boring, boring.

[Abbie]

You should post this in the general discussion thread

here:
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=74115

[Abbie]

Wow those are great ratings :D and im not surprised

[amylou83]

I have watched Eastenders for 15 years now and along the way i have watched some amazing acting and story lines, and some have been pretty much........no brainers.
I was so amazed at the story line for Ronnie Mitchell, doesn't this character deserve a little bit of happiness? It was so exciting to know that her daughter that she had given away and grieved for all her life was right under her nose. How lovely this is going to be when she finds out that she exists and can start living her life with her............or so most of the UK's viewers thought!

What kind of people are writing the utter tripe that i watched the other night. Dont get me wrong the acting was fantasic, and these characters deserve better story lines. But can someone please explain to me, why these writers feel that when a story line is coming to its climax, to end it so abruptly by killing them off with the usual Eastenders death.....being run over......yawn how boring. It was so good up until that point.

Danielles death was completely un nessary and a waste of our viewing time. So now what does Ronnie do, i can predict, probably go insanely crazy over her daughters death and run Archie over in the square as revenge. When if she had cuddled her long lost daughter outside the tube station it could have been left with a happier and more interesting next part of her life.

To be honest after seeing that episode i am NEVER watching Eastenders again, i have never felt so depressed after watching a soap. Why do the writers feel they need every character to have a cursed life. Its so unimaginative a monkey could write better scripts.........Boring, boring, boring.

[miccisy]

Not feeling sorry for Janine; she had a point about Stacey but to an extent the damage that she did can be undone; they're all still alive. She was acting as if she hadn't done much wrong it seemed to me; she should be charged for manslaughter at least, if not speeding as well. I felt sorry for her when she went to prison for killing Laura as she hadn't done it but she got away with Barry and I don't think she should be getting away with killing someone twice.

I dont get why she should be charged for manslaughter. Danielle just walked into the road without checking. I dont like Janine but i dont thin she was fully to blame.

Loved the episodes.

In the end i am glad that they killed Danielle off, i mean if they kept her alive what would happen? Her and Ronnie live happily ever after and it would get boring.

[Abbie]

Not feeling sorry for Janine; she had a point about Stacey but to an extent the damage that she did can be undone; they're all still alive. She was acting as if she hadn't done much wrong it seemed to me; she should be charged for manslaughter at least, if not speeding as well. I felt sorry for her when she went to prison for killing Laura as she hadn't done it but she got away with Barry and I don't think she should be getting away with killing someone twice.

I dont get why she should be charged for manslaughter. Danielle just walked into the road without checking. I dont like Janine but i dont thin she was fully to blame.


I feel the same, well the difference is I like Janine but I dont think she should go down
I wonder how they would treat people if it was someone else driving

[Welshwizard]

This may not go down well with some people on here or on other messgeboards but EE made the right choice in the end in Killing off Danielle . I am gutted about this though I thought her character and the acrress Lauren crace were both amazing from start to finish . But this is all about what make a character and Ronnie is a TRAGIC character on the show . They said in the BBC 3 show that just having a few moments with each other then ripping it away is made for powerful and emotional viewing . Eastenders has now moved into it`s goldern genartion . We will see drama we have not seen before . All these pretision and facebook appeals for Danielle`s comeback will not prove anything . It`s is ashame that some people only discover when Daniell/Lauren was gone/going that she was any good, such is the world we live in . I look forward to Ronnie`s downward progression into mental breakdown , only Sam can do this best .
I can`t wait to the award season EE will clean up , oh boy the other soaps must wonder what to do now . They will copy what EE do , which will be such a shame .

[Chris_2k11]

^ I agree actually. I think it was the right decision to kill her off, I could never imagine her being a long term character on the show. What would they have done with her really? It wouldn't have worked.

Also I was thinking, you know when Danielle first came into it how did she know where to find Ronnie?

[Abbie]

Wasnt ronnies name on the list? you know a list where if the adopted children want to get in touch with their parents they can??

[Chris_2k11]

Oh right I see, but wasn't Ronnie supposed to be living in Spain with Roxy?

[matt1378]

I sent a complaint into the BBC here is the reply I got...


Thank you for your e-mail.

We note your disappointment with the ending of 'EastEnders' on 02 April. However, we would stress that it contained all the elements of a classic soap episode – a wedding, high drama, and tragedy.

We acknowledge we didn't deliver the happy ending many of the audience may have been hoping for, and that for some people this was upsetting. We hope viewers will understand that our aim is to always deliver the best drama possible.

The storyline between Ronnie and Danielle was always going to be a challenging one and the producers decided from the offset that their relationship as mother and daughter would be short lived. Giving Ronnie what she'd always wanted in the long run would have impacted on what we were trying to achieve and although Danielle's death may have been shocking for some viewers 'EastEnders', like all good drama, contains a balance of storylines, both happy and sad.

Please be assured that we have registered your comments on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are circulated and considered across the BBC.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Regards

BBC Complaints
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www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

[Timalay]

Is it me or does Ronnie remind you of Sharon?

[Florijo]

Fridays episode was good. Poor Ronnie.

So Archie is a Mitchell outcast, it must be bad when even the black sheep Billy turns their back on you. Not that he doesn't deserve it but still. Intersting handshake with Janine as well.

I totally understand where Danielles dad is coming from but its not really far on Ronnie. She isn't a mind reader, how was she to know. To her, Danielle was just this freaky little stalker.

[Abbie]

Ok I see you point but at the end of th say dont you think it was more dramatic this way then well Ronnie and Danielle to have a happy realtionship? what would have happened?

I mean in a way it would have been nice, but well I can see this as the best outcome in terms of creating drama which is thw writers jobs

[Abbie]

Oh right I see, but wasn't Ronnie supposed to be living in Spain with Roxy?

Yeah but she came back to england. She probably but her name on the list before she went

[DaVeyWaVey]

Danielle's stepdad was really out of order with Ronnie, I think. I know he's grieving but it was ridiculous that he told Ronnie it was all her fault - it's just going to make her feel a whole lot worse.

I cried on Friday's episode :( I wasn't going to watch it because I found Thursday's episode really depressing but I couldn't resist watching the aftermath - it was as equally depressing, but really well acted nonetheless.

I have to disagree about Danielle. I thought it was the worst decision to kill her off. I wanted to see her and Ronnie build up a relationship together and have storylines together. After months of build up, it was all over in a few minutes. I thought it was a cop out.

[Abbie]

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I have to disagree about Danielle. I thought it was the worst decision to kill her off. I wanted to see her and Ronnie build up a relationship together and have storylines together. After months of build up, it was all over in a few minutes. I thought it was a cop out.

I do agree, I would have liked to see that too.

But at the same time I can see why this was the best way. The really have created highented drama here. I was crying loads!! And we will probably see more from ronnie and more well drama and tension so I can see why they chose this way

[Welshwizard]

I am glad I am on this Forum and and not on any other ones I could name (Digitlyspy) . They certainly don`t understand what makes a character on EE , Ronnie is a Tragic character of the show like it or not . This ending or should I say ending of this chapter of the Ronnie story made perfect sense . Although I would have slighly changed it but not the final out come .
Last Thursdays episode was so long waited for , I would have pulled the wool over all the viewer eyes by changing it every so slightly . This is what I would have done , first Janine would not have found out about not being the legal owner of the car lot until Good Friday . In doing this she would not jump in her car and gone looking for Tiffany and telling her that her real father was Ricky . So the knock on effect would have resulted in R and D running into each others arms and spending all this week with each other . Probably going on holiday to such places as southend ( Well all the characters go there from time to time ) . Then on Friday Janine would have found out about the car lot , then gone off in a rage in her car as we know about . R and D would have come back from southend by train , walk out of the tube station . And the car would have speeding round the corner looking like it would knock Ronnie down but Danielle would have sacrificed herself by pushing her out of the way and getting mowed down herself . That would have been more powerful viewing in my eyes as it would have given alot of people hope for R and D then this twist we here so much about would have really taken us by suprise . Oh well it something the Producers / writers can ponder on for another day .I hope no one on here are going to boycott EE as some others from different forums are going to do there loss I suppose:nono: .I am looking forward to the funeral , seeing Gareth and the Gran . Maybe the gran will give ronnie a photo album of Danielle showing photos of her when she was young and maybe a video of her horse riding taking her first steps the usual stuff . I could imagine all this , it would make emotional viewing for Ronnie :crying:

[Chris_2k11]

Ok I see you point but at the end of th say dont you think it was more dramatic this way then well Ronnie and Danielle to have a happy realtionship? what would have happened?

I mean in a way it would have been nice, but well I can see this as the best outcome in terms of creating drama which is thw writers jobsWell put Abbie. The happily ever after option would have been nice but like you said it creates no drama which is boring.

[DaVeyWaVey]

amylou, you've taken the words right out of my mouth. These are exactly my thoughts.. no one is ever happy in EastEnders.

[angel_eyes87]

I was expecting this amazing episode, it was exactly the same with the Corrie wedding, why do the soaps feel the need to advertise the episode making it unmissable and a must see, then disappoint us with a poorly written episode, the acting was brilliant for the last 20 minutes, but that was it and how come it took Janine 30 minutes to drive round the corner to knock her down.

[Bad Wolf]

er, should this not be in current ep discussion????


MERGING!!!!!

[Abbie]

er, should this not be in current ep discussion????

:(


I did say that in the second post of thread and posted a link

[Bad Wolf]

thanks abi, i'll merge them now xx

[megan999]

IMO this ending would have been more effective if they hadn't already used the "running over" method with Max. When Janine ran over Danielle, my initial reaction was, "oh no, not again!" I think that Janine is more worried about herself than the fact that she has killed someone. She offered the hand of friendship to Archie because she needs an ally. I agree that after all these months of build up that Ronnie and Danielle deserve a happy ending, but this is soapland after all. At least the acting was superb, especially from Samantha Janus and Lauren Crace. Did they bring back Janine JUST to run over Danielle? I hope not. I like her character. I still do not understand why Archie wanted to marry Peggy. Is it because he didn't want to grow old on his own/wanted the Vic/wanted a wife he could control?

[angel_eyes87]

I think Archie married Peggy, because he knew he could manipulate her and control her. Like the way he seemed to have the power to make Roxy believe every single word and yet be manipulting her into believing that Ronnie was the person who had done everything wrong. I also think that he wanted to run the Vic again because of the control factor.

[di marco]

ok this might be a long post, as im gonna try and write everything in one post instead of replying to individual parts separately, so feel free to not read it all lol!

firstly i did really enjoy watching both thursdays and fridays epi, normally with hour long epis i get bored halfway through and keep looking at the clock and although i agree that not much happened for the first part of thursdays epi it was still good viewing i thought

thursdays epi, id already read the spoilers and so i knew that danielle was going to get run over by janine and die and i really wish i hadnt. although the ending was still good, i think it would have been more emotional and powerful if i hadnt seen it coming. my housemate didnt know and she was in complete shock and im disappointed that i read the spoilers and knew it was going to happen. however i did wonder why janine was driving around in the car for so long (i know someones already pointed out an explanation for this) and also why danielle just stood in the road and stared at the car for what seemed like forever! surely she had time to move out of the way? and surely janine had time to stop/swerve etc? i would have liked it if danielle had been killed some other way, like accidently falling in front of the train or something, as i think the car accident scenario has been done so many times already. also did anyone call an ambulance? janine just stood there and stacey ran into the vic to tell them, surely the first thing to do what be to get an ambulance there? however even with these small things i thought it was done well and they didnt spoil the epi as a whole for me

i also liked how jack was, in a roundabout way, sort of responsible for janine running danielle over, as he always has to get one over on people and although janine deserved the humiliation of the car lot, i wonder how ronnie would feel if she knew that what jack had done had had the knockon effect of killing her daughter? i think that could be interesting although im guessing it will just be forgotten

also, nothing to do with the accident/danielle dying, but i hate dotty, what she said to tiffany was really mean, i hope dot realises what a horrible little brat she is soon!

fridays epi was also good. i liked seeing janines vunerable side and i actually feel sorry for her as although shes normally a right bitch to everyone else, i think she feels really bad for killing danielle, although how much of that upset is for herself rather than danielle i dont know. i think its good to see another side to her

and although danielles dad was really mean to ronnie when he found out who she was, i think it was to be expected. i dont think he blamed ronnie for danielle coming to find her, more of the fact that the reason she walked out in front of the car was to go to ronnie (and i think he would resent her even more if he knew that she had just shouted at danielle which was why she was running away in the first place). although its not ronnies fault, hes grieving and i think he just wanted someone to blame. i dont agree that he should have moaned at her for giving her up though cos she was only a kid at the time and it wasnt her fault

i liked how roxy was there for ronnie and it seemed like they were putting what has been going on for the past few months behind them. i think it will be good for both of them to be there for each other. im also glad roxy chucked out archies stuff as i think his deceiption has hit her hardest as she always idolised him. i also liked the max/ronnie scene as i like their friendship. and although jack was trying to be nice to ronnie i think he needs to stay away from her for a bit as i think he could do more harm than good atm

although i dont want archie to leave, i dont see what else they can really do if hes stays there. he plays the evil villian really well but he doesnt have anyone to manipulate any more so im not really sure what else he could do, and i really dont want him to turn nice in the hope of getting his family back. killing him could be good but only if its done in the right circumstance etc i dont want him to die just for the sake of it

ive already written my views on danielle dying in another thread:


i always thought that the writers were killing danielle off cos then the storyline had gone full circle - ronnie thinks daughter is dead, daughter turns up, daughter dies. although i didnt want danielle to die straight away as i thought it would be good to see her bond with ronnie and them to have some time together and then they could kill her off. however after watching thursdays and fridays epis and the ee revealed i now think it was best to kill her off now rather than kill her in a few months time or not at all. if they didnt kill her at all it would all get very boring very quickly, they would bond and nothing else could really be done. if they killed her off in a few months we would get the bonding which everyone wanted to see and it would be nice, but i dont think danielles death would then have as much effect as it will have killing her off at the wedding. killing her off just minutes after ronnie realises shes her daughter makes it more devastating for ronnie as she never had chance to bond with her daughter, it also makes the fall out with archie worse for the rest of the family as its his fault that ronnie never got to know who danielle was, if she was killed in a few months time i dont think everyone would hate archie as much as they do now. at the end of the day, danielle was brought in as a plot device rather than a proper character and so it makes sense to use her to move ronnies character in a different direction rather than the storyline moving both ronnie and danielles characters

overall i think the acting was brilliant from quite a lot of the cast, especially in the last part of thursdays epi, and im looking forward to the effect this is going to have and what is going to happen next

finally id just like to say that while i know that some people didnt like the ending to this storyline and that they have every right to disagree with why i thought it worked for the best, i dont really see how complaining to the bbc will help, and definitely why some people have started petitions etc. whats done is done, it cant be changed cos danielle is dead, its not like they might change their minds and bring the character back at a later date. the decision for her to die was obviously for a reason and while it might not have been the best/ideal ending for this storyline, it is obviously the best way for the soap in the future. and if viewers are enjoying the show apart from this one decision, i dont see why they would choose to stop watching altogether as at the end of the day, its going to be them thats missing out, not the ee producers etc

sorry this is so long, i didnt actually realise it was this long til ive just looked. maybe if i put this much thought into my essays they would get done a lot quicker!

[di marco]

Also I was thinking, you know when Danielle first came into it how did she know where to find Ronnie?


Wasnt ronnies name on the list? you know a list where if the adopted children want to get in touch with their parents they can??



Oh right I see, but wasn't Ronnie supposed to be living in Spain with Roxy?

Yeah but she came back to england. She probably but her name on the list before she went

if i remember correctly, wasnt there a scene in the vic where ronnie phoned up looking for her daughter and she put her name on the register then?

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

I sense a 'who dunnit?' coming on?!

[Florijo]

I honestly couldn't care less about Peggy's pathetic hurt pride - Ronnie has lost her daughter, you stupid cow!!

I hope Archie isn't killed off. Its a waste. I know he has completly burnt his bridges with his family but killing him off would just be a cheap way to end the storyline.

[Bad Wolf]

just watched the secret mitchell on i player Larry Lamb says he leaves town, BUT could be back

[CrazyLea]

I'm so behind... just watched Thursdays ep... omg! I'm in tears, I heard it was sad, but didn't think it would be SO sad ! :crying:

[sindydoll]

well peggy really loves her son doesn't she....wants her own son to kill a man and risk him going to prison she does not deserve to be a mother :angry:

[Abbie]

:eek: Was a bit drastic of Peggy wasnt it!!!!

[Bad Wolf]

peggy and charlie should get together, he has always loved her

[Abbie]

peggy and charlie should get together, he has always loved her

Awww yeah!

They were sweet :)

[lizann]

Tonight's episode was kinda of a let down after last week's epic episodes.

If i was Ronnie i would be mad as hell at Janine (accident or not) if she killed my daughter i'd kill her.

I'd see little bratty ben is back on the scene with bratty Abi

Chelesa as usual annoying as hell

[sindydoll]

peggy and charlie should get together, he has always loved her
they should and who knows they might

[di marco]

peggy really annoyed me in yesterdays epi, feeling sorry for herself and trying to make people feel sorry for her saying she was the one to blame. ronnie is the one thats been hurt the most in all this and roxy has also been hurt seeing as she now knows what her dad is like. peggy has hardly been hurt at all in comparison. i was surprised to find out that theo didnt know anything about the real reasons tommy wanted to speak to patrick

[Siobhan]

She has been lied too, is that enough reason to kill a man?? how many other women have been lied to by men they love but you don't see them getting someone to kill them.. geez Peggy, get over yourself :rolleyes:

[Katy]

She has been lied too, is that enough reason to kill a man?? how many other women have been lied to by men they love but you don't see them getting someone to kill them.. geez Peggy, get over yourself :rolleyes:

I agree!

My dad said thats what she was going to say about 10 mintes before she said it.

Im really confused with the whole Patrick storyline, i havent a clue whats going on.

[Joanne]

What's the deal with Chelsea and Theo. That Tommy looked decidely uncomfortable when Theo said he was falling for her. I wonder if they could be related in some way?

[Florijo]

Who the hell does Peggy think she is? Mrs Kray? What a stupid storyline.

[di marco]

i thought tonights epi was really boring. the best bit was laurens trial and even that wasnt that interesting

[di marco]

Im really confused with the whole Patrick storyline, i havent a clue whats going on.

me too, im not really sure whats going on either!

[JustJodi]

Im really confused with the whole Patrick storyline, i havent a clue whats going on.

me too, im not really sure whats going on either!


I have most of it figured out :ninja:

[JustJodi]

who thinks MO is going to open her BIG MOUTH,, after showing Charlie that photo of Brenda hugging another dude ? I am not sure what to think of this Brenda person.... any one have any ideas WHO SHE REALLY is ????:searchme: :hmm:

[Siobhan]

Jodi.. I really don't care about Brenda.. it is a pointless storyline

[JustJodi]

Jodi.. I really don't care about Brenda.. it is a pointless storyline


I honestly do not care any thing for her, I just was curious if any one KNEW any thing about her, I agree the story line is pretty darn pointless, cos it is not going any where any time soon :cartman:

[di marco]

Jodi.. I really don't care about Brenda.. it is a pointless storyline

i agree, i forget she exists half the time, shes so boring and pointless!

[di marco]

Im really confused with the whole Patrick storyline, i havent a clue whats going on.

me too, im not really sure whats going on either!


I have most of it figured out :ninja:

its just everytime i think i get it, something else happens which gets me confused again!

[Ruffed_lemur]

well peggy really loves her son doesn't she....wants her own son to kill a man and risk him going to prison she does not deserve to be a mother :angry:

Yes, Archie is pure evil, but this is very selfish of Peggy.

[di marco]

well peggy really loves her son doesn't she....wants her own son to kill a man and risk him going to prison she does not deserve to be a mother :angry:

Yes, Archie is pure evil, but this is very selfish of Peggy.

it is selfish of peggy, and im not sure why phil has agreed to do it either

[Perdita]

To show himself off as the hardman he is supposed to be, that is why he has agreed. But he should get tips from a Carl King up in Yorkshire on how to get away with murder first :D

[Chris_2k11]

Am I the only one just totally uninterested in the court case? I couldn't care less at all!

[Florijo]

I couldn't care less about any of it tbh. The whole aftermath of Danielle dying is annoying me no end. I'm sick of the MitchellMafia and going on about "fam-er-lee". Yes Phil cos murdering someone is really good for your young son isn't it?

Janine is so obvious:rolleyes: Archie had Janine's number all right

Patrick/Theo *YAWNS*

Court case *DOUBLE YAWNS* The Brannings have been ruined so I couldn't care less about Lauren, the whole thing is unrealistic anyway.

[*-Rooney-*]

so whats the deal when they want to kill a mitchell just hit them with a car, tiffany, jamie now danielle

[Bryan]

Peggy! What a cow! If my mother spoke to me like that I'd bitch slap her!

Am I the only one to think killing Archie would have been OTT? Yes he's an evil ******* but he doesnt deserve to die!

Archie may be gone, but he's going to have a lasting affect on the whole Mitchell family.

[Abbie]

:eek: :eek:
omg!!! I was soooo shocked at Peggy tonight, shes really changed!!!

And I agree, killing Archie would be very OTT

[Florijo]

Can the writers stay off the funny stuff please? How utterly stupid. I am fast loosing patience with EastEnders. First they kill off Danielle, then we get some Mafia Moll Peggy Mitchell, who orders their son to kill someone and then rewards them with a steak dinner, without a care in the world (well except DNA, lol!) The whole thing is laughable.

Poor Phil (can't believe I just said that!!!!). I think we all know what will happen if Archie comes back. He'll cause trouble then we'll get a "Who Done it?" and it will be Roxy (least obvious choice)

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Well said Bryan!
& I can't believe they had an advert put out for that.. :eek: Nothing even happened!

[lizann]

So whats the story with Charlie's bird Brenda?

[matt1378]

So whats the story with Charlie's bird Brenda?

moving away somewhere i reckon?

[Bryan]

I still say Peggy and Charlie should get together! Strengthen up the Slaters, they aren't what they used to be. Peggy should know by now that the wise flash guys only end up breaking her heart.

[Siobhan]

What an utter cow Peggy is.. 1st it was "Oh phil, my best son in the whole wide world" and then Phil tells her he didn't its "you spineless loser"..yeah he kills Archie, gets sent down, Ben loses another parent and all because Peggy was lied too.... Get over yourself woman :angry::angry::angry:

[sindydoll]

so that cement mixer was supposed to fill the pit...mmm think again eastenders :rolleyes: :lol:

[Dutchgirl]

Well it didn't take long for Peggy to become a poisoned dwarf once again. She'll never learn. I'm feeling sorry for Phil( and yes I cannot believe it saying this). At least we will know where the next funding will come from. (they will shake Archie for his Millions?)

The caterpillar story was nice. Whitney deserves a good mate.

Patrick's character is so well played. I was just starting to wonder where Denise was in all this. Ah and Lucas has nothing on him now. He'd better watch himself.

[JustJodi]

Grrrrrrrrr Peggy is BAAAACK being the Evil little troll she is..it is always about HER.. and her needs.. God forbid some one in her family loose a child not once but twice.

Ok so the guy she married lied to her big whoo, I can count on my fingers and toes how many men have lied to ME,, and I have not had any of them Killed.:p

I love Patrick, his character is great, and the guy who plays him is a good actor, Lucas is now STUCK, he no longer has any thing on Patrick, Patrick now can say LUCAS U TELL DENISE OR I WILL... :cartman:

[Chris_2k11]

So whats the story with Charlie's bird Brenda?Shes absolutely terrible, i really hope shes not sticking around. Peggy and the meal made me laugh "ive made a fresh pot of tea too!" haha as if it was some sort of reward?!

[Bryan]

would Gary and Minty have not noticed Phil had commented up the mechanics pit? :rolleyes:

[LostVoodoo]

would Gary and Minty have not noticed Phil had commented up the mechanics pit? :rolleyes:

i dont think it was supposed to be the Arches, since he was bundled off in a van. plus that would be daft...oh hang on...

[Florijo]

it was the arches

[lizann]

I really do not feel one bit sorry for Dot - she bought it on herself - everyone warned her

That little girl who plays Dotty even looks evil

[Siobhan]

That little girl who plays Dotty even looks evil

I don't like her at all.. she is a little sneak and she annoys me so much.. her voice, her acting.. man she is bad

[Perdita]

I think she looks right for the role she is playing. As for acting, she is a darned side better at acting than the girl playing Amy Barlow

[Chris_2k11]

As for acting, she is a darned side better at acting than the girl playing Amy BarlowWho isnt! :lol:

[parkerman]

As for acting, she is a darned side better at acting than the girl playing Amy BarlowWho isnt! :lol:

Louisa Lytton isn't. :rolleyes:

[Chris_2k11]

^ haha true!

[sindydoll]

phil on the bottle again? i thought he was joking around at first!! but he told shirley she was gorgeous so he was definitely drunk!
i dont like that dotty she horrid
and do i sence ronnie cracking up?

[Chloe O'brien]

Best Baddie at this years soap awards: Between Dotty and Belle Dingle. :rotfl:

[parkerman]

So Nick is hanging around the Square...but no-one has noticed him. Hmmm...:hmm:

[lizann]

Why hasnt Dot apologises to Pat and Liam yet :confused:

I couldnt stop laughing at Ronnie singing at Danielle's grave i know it was sad but it was funny :lol:

BTW does Stacey have any clothes that dont make her look like a slapper or a junior Kat :rolleyes:

[Dutchgirl]

I thought it was a heartbreaking episode.

[Siobhan]

I thought it was a heartbreaking episode.

I agree.. I thought the end was very sad.. Ronnie told Andy she wished she could cry and then we see her breaking down at the graveside singing to Danielle.. Stacey's comment "it's like you are tucking her into bed" got to me

[tammyy2j]

I think Max is on to nasty Nick

[*-Rooney-*]

yeah hes looking out for dot, and im glad he is i think all the other brannings have suddenly forgotten about her. Bradley, Lauren and Abi used to be close to her but all of a sudden they have forgotten. as for jack he could pop in to see her every now and again but does he no

[Florijo]

if only janine had hit jack branning instead... :cool:

will ee please give r&r/j a rest now. i'm so tired of jack as a character. he is a walking plank of wood. has he actually done anything in ee apart from sleep with woman? complex, well written character i think not!

i wish i had a sister like roxy...:cool: she really is thick

dotty/dot/nick is an appalling storyline. honestly what where they thinking?

[lizann]

I really couldnt care less if they kill Dot or not

Drunken Phil flashing Heather and the kids - funny :lol:

[sindydoll]

why have they turned phil into an alki again:thumbsdow

[Siobhan]

why have they turned phil into an alki again:thumbsdow

He is a funny drunk but seems pointless storyline

[parkerman]

Whatever anyone might think of the actual storyline, I think it's great having Nick back. Now there's a real villain!:bow:

[Dutchgirl]

Whatever anyone might think of the actual storyline, I think it's great having Nick back. Now there's a real villain!:bow:
They should have called Dotty Damiana she is a nasty piece of work. Plotting with Nick how to kill Dot.

Oh and Jack what is he on? He just wants Amy.

[Chloe O'brien]

I really couldnt care less if they kill Dot or not

Drunken Phil flashing Heather and the kids - funny :lol:'s

Phil flashing at Heather (Kath, can you wrap this in spoiler tags)

[Chris_2k11]

Whatever anyone might think of the actual storyline, I think it's great having Nick back. Now there's a real villain!:bow:He's barely even back! not properly anyway, pops up now and again thats it.

[Bryan]

am i the only one to not to give a stuff about this new Masood character?
and the Patrick and the other old man stuff bores me to tears soon!

what happened to all the edge of your seat drama we had recently!?

[Bad Wolf]

i was thinking the same- its just dull dull dull now!!!!!!

[sindydoll]

why have they turned phil into an alki again:thumbsdow

He is a funny drunk but seems pointless storyline
has long has they dont turn him into a woman beater again

[Joanne]

I'm quite enjoying the Dot/Dotty/Nick storyline!

Glad Patrick and Tommy one is now finished - or hope it is anyway.

Zainab never struck me as an idiot but she's proving herself to be one if she believes the rubbish her son was saying to her last night. I don't think that's his car or flat, he's obviously out to scam her.

[tammyy2j]

Shirley - i think Phil will hurt you again :nono:

Why the hell cant Jack sue for joint custody or visitation rights of Amy instead of chasing Roxy when he loves Ronnie

[Chloe O'brien]

Shirley - i think Phil will hurt you again :nono:

Why the hell cant Jack sue for joint custody or visitation rights of Amy instead of chasing Roxy when he loves Ronnie

Cause he's a man and his brains are in his boxers and they are all thick as mince who live in the square.

[*-Rooney-*]

He thinks if he causes enough trouble between the Mitchell sisters, then Roxy will stop putting Ronnie first and he will get his way when it comes to seeing Amy, because when they were arguing he was seeing quite a lot of Amy and he liked it that way, and he'll do whatever it takes to get it back that way

[Dutchgirl]

First thing I thought about Saids flat was it is a show flat. No personal belongings etc..
I'm curious where it will lead to. The man can't help himself lying that is obvious. But how far can he take it?
The actor does a fine job. Big puppy eyes are very convincing especially where mummy is concerned.

[Ruffed_lemur]

First thing I thought about Saids flat was it is a show flat. No personal belongings etc..
I'm curious where it will lead to. The man can't help himself lying that is obvious. But how far can he take it?
The actor does a fine job. Big puppy eyes are very convincing especially where mummy is concerned.

I agree. I think the story has potential.

[sindydoll]

heather locking phil in was so funny!! ....taking that £250 was so bad ive stopped feeling sorry for him now

[Siobhan]

You're just a big baldy bully who is getting locked in til you sober up :lol::lol:one of the funniest quotes from Heather

[Dutchgirl]

Heather cracks me up. She is such a good character. She becomes more interesting by the day. Phil is not such a nice drunk by the way. I thought someone mentioned this somewhere.

[Siobhan]

Heather cracks me up. She is such a good character. She becomes more interesting by the day. Phil is not such a nice drunk by the way. I thought someone mentioned this somewhere.

I said a funny drunk. .not a nice one...

[Dutchgirl]

Heather cracks me up. She is such a good character. She becomes more interesting by the day. Phil is not such a nice drunk by the way. I thought someone mentioned this somewhere.

I said a funny drunk. .not a nice one...
Ah well the funny bit seems to have gone. He is back on his old ways I'm sorry to say.

[Chris_2k11]

Apparently Tracy gets some lines tonight! how exciting ;)

[Siobhan]

Heather cracks me up. She is such a good character. She becomes more interesting by the day. Phil is not such a nice drunk by the way. I thought someone mentioned this somewhere.

I said a funny drunk. .not a nice one...
Ah well the funny bit seems to have gone. He is back on his old ways I'm sorry to say.

Totally agree... noticed this last week when Shirley said she loved him.. he is just using her. he is a evil vile toad and I would have called him a baldy bollix not a bully

[*-Rooney-*]

i have went off shirley in the past week, the old shirley wouldnt lie to Ben and encourage alcoholic Phil to continue to drink

[sindydoll]

phils back to his old ways

[parkerman]

Apparently Tracy gets some lines tonight! how exciting ;)
Yes, Tracy had verbal diarrhoea last night. You couldn't shut her up!

Winston's turn next...with any luck.

[Bad Wolf]

tracey was the core of that episode- they should promote her!!!

[parkerman]

Perhaps she's got a new agent. :lol:

[Siobhan]

how hot is the new doc.. about time EE delivered what they keep saying, eye candy for the ladies..

So Who's the daddy?

[Chloe O'brien]

how hot is the new doc.. about time EE delivered what they keep saying, eye candy for the ladies..

So Who's the daddy?

PHIL :D Talk about working life parrelling real life. In the papers today it's reported that Steve has got his neighbour up the duff. Imagine that him and his alter-ego becoming a daddy again at the same time. How coincedental is that, and they won't have to worry about searching for a baby to play the part they could use his own child.

[Kim]

how hot is the new doc.. about time EE delivered what they keep saying, eye candy for the ladies..

So Who's the daddy?

PHIL :D Talk about working life parrelling real life. In the papers today it's reported that Steve has got his neighbour up the duff. Imagine that him and his alter-ego becoming a daddy again at the same time. How coincedental is that, and they won't have to worry about searching for a baby to play the part they could use his own child.

I thought Phil being the dad couldn't be the case but now I think he is. It was something about how they acted around each other before Heather even locked him in the Arches; I can't even remember what it was that made me think it now but I really think it's Phil.

[Chloe O'brien]

Trust septic Peg SB's very own blind soothsayer she see's nothing yet she she's everything, her predictions of Phil being the daddy to Heather's baby will be true. :rotfl:

[parkerman]

In their usual subtle (!) way, the Eastenders producer and scriptwriters have certainly prepared the way for Phil to be the daddy.

Suddenly, he's back on the sauce; suddenly Shirley spends more time with him than her old friend Heather; suddenly Heather can't bear to be near Phil; suddenly Heather walks out on Shirley....

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

If it does turn out to be true then I think it's simply ridiculous!

[*-Rooney-*]

when exactly are they have meant to have slept together though???

[Chloe O'brien]

when exactly are they have meant to have slept together though???

We won't know until after Heather has the baby then they will do a back plot to reveal when they slept together just like they did when Michelle slept with Dirty Den and fell pregnant with Victoria.

[JustJodi]

Who is the daddy ???? my partner says THE GEORGE MICHAEL look alike :lol: I do not think it is any one who is living on the square,, I would like to think it might have been Minty,, but with EE,, its probably Phil.

Ok who likes this new character Syed Massood ?? I just think hes a good looking bloke but hes also BAD to the bone:ninja:


oh btw for all of U who watched the first show with Syed and Z did u remember seeing a FLASH CAR ????????? WHAT happened to that :rolleyes: LOL

The new Doc/GP niccccceeeeeee,, but what have I seen him in before ????????:hmm: :searchme:

[Perdita]

He has been in London Burning, Smack The Pony, Peak Practice and in some movies.

[Dutchgirl]

Who is the daddy ???? my partner says THE GEORGE MICHAEL look alike :lol: I do not think it is any one who is living on the square,, I would like to think it might have been Minty,, but with EE,, its probably Phil.

Ok who likes this new character Syed Massood ?? I just think hes a good looking bloke but hes also BAD to the bone:ninja:


oh btw for all of U who watched the first show with Syed and Z did u remember seeing a FLASH CAR ????????? WHAT happened to that :rolleyes: LOL

The new Doc/GP niccccceeeeeee,, but what have I seen him in before ????????:hmm: :searchme:
I think the BMW belonged to his mate, as did the apartment.

The doctor is sure nice.

Syed is buttering his way in this cannot be good.

[LostVoodoo]

i soooo want Syed and Janine to get it together, what a pair they could be! plus he is indeed rather hot.

i still think it was that male escort that's the father of Heather's baby. its logical and means we don't have to see him again.

[sindydoll]

how hot is the new doc.. about time EE delivered what they keep saying, eye candy for the ladies..

So Who's the daddy?

PHIL :D Talk about working life parrelling real life. In the papers today it's reported that Steve has got his neighbour up the duff. Imagine that him and his alter-ego becoming a daddy again at the same time. How coincedental is that, and they won't have to worry about searching for a baby to play the part they could use his own child.

I thought Phil being the dad couldn't be the case but now I think he is. It was something about how they acted around each other before Heather even locked him in the Arches; I can't even remember what it was that made me think it now but I really think it's Phil. i was thinking the same...but when would they have slept together :confused:

[Chloe O'brien]

As many on here will know I don't watch EE or many other soaps, so I don't know who the male escort guy was or how close him and Heather were. My theory is going with that the writers want to invent a plot that will keep the viewers tuning in and having someone like Heather falling pregnant is an ideal scenerio. Let's face it she is no oil painting and the lift doesn't go to the top floor. In real life there are Heathers in everyone's community who may have a heart of gold but are still riduculed and targeted as loney and desperate and that is why I think Phil will be revealed as the baby's father.

If the writers off EE wanted to give Heather some happiness they would have kept the escort guy in the show or contiuned and expanded her relationship with Minty but they didn't the escort guy was only used as a decoy. EE need to win the viewers vote against other soaps so they have to come up with new storylines they are not going to appeal to everyone and we may see our favourite character going through hell but it adds to the viewing figures.

I don't want to see Heather loose her friendship with Shirley or be treated like a villiage idiot but it may be a few months before we find out who is the father of her kid and I stand by my beliefs that it is Phil Mitchell sadly the baby will be a result of a drunken fumble.

[Dutchgirl]

They did a good job on who is the daddy? The entire male population of EE passed by. It was a bit like Laura Beale.

[tammyy2j]

I like the new pairing of Syed and Janine - they definitely have chemistry

[LostVoodoo]

methinks the father is Billy, after all the palava with the note. plus they showed a clip of her snogging him on This Morning when they were doing the soap competition thing. it was an old clip, i think it was Heather's birthday, so that might have been the start of a little bit more...

[sindydoll]

phil is really starting to get irritating now! hope he stops drinking before drama queen peggy gets back!
christian with that doctor...so funny :lol:

[tammyy2j]

So Roxy wants Jack now :confused:

[Katy]

Poor Roxy, she is having a right old time of it! keeping that lot under control. I really enjoyed the church scenes they were funny.

[LostVoodoo]

So Roxy wants Jack now :confused:

Roxy has always wanted Jack, she never stopped, poor girl.

[*-Rooney-*]

well i think walking in on Roxy and Jack would have sobered Ronnie up.

Feel sorry for the both of them though, Ronnie is still a wreck understandably about Danielle, then theres Roxy shes the one trying to keep the whole mitchell clan together, and she wants Jack who is clearly in love with Ronnie but settling for Roxy until/If ever she takes him back

[parkerman]

I really enjoyed the church scenes they were funny.

Especially Nick reading his paper and then going out for a fag break.

[sindydoll]

loved the church scene...poor dot :lol: only in eastenders

[lizann]

I must admit i'm loving drunken Phil - he is very funny

Roxy really is a horrible sister to Ronnie

Even though the actor who plays Jack is hot - the character of Jack has become very annoying

[Florijo]

Last night was very loud and involved many drunk people.

Can't be happy Peggy is back. Its all her fault so she has the nerve to lecture Phil and Shirley:rolleyes:

Jack is a plank. he can't even say I love you to his "great love" without sounding like he is ordering a portion of rice from the chinese! lol - can he actually do ANY emotions at all?

[LostVoodoo]

Jack is a plank. he can't even say I love you to his "great love" without sounding like he is ordering a portion of rice from the chinese! lol - can he actually do ANY emotions at all?

as much as i hate Jack i thought it was quite a big thing for both of them for him to do that. and kinda sweet.

loving Roxy's dress btw. and indeed, where was poor Ben last night?!

[*-Rooney-*]

Roxy sent him to abby's instead of going to the christening

[tammyy2j]

Jack's declaration of love for Ronnie was very unromantic :thumbsdow

[Perdita]

Jack's declaration of love for Ronnie was very unromantic :thumbsdow

But he did not have time to buy flowers and chocolates before hitting the intercom button at the airport :lol:

[megan999]

I wanted to see them run into each other's arms and embrace...:wub:I was very disappointed with the scene in the end. But at least they are together again...but for how long :hmm:

[Florijo]

I find it so wierd that Jack was inviting Max round - okay it wasn't exactly the warmest of conversations but Jack was a complete git to Max, taunted him and beat him up, humiliating him. He would have taken his family away if Max han't been run over. Why is Max even giving him the time of day?

[tammyy2j]

I want Max and Tanya back together and i hope down the line it happens they have great chemistry and work well together.

Stacey going nuts has begun

I'm sick of the Nick/Dot storyline :thumbsdow

[Dutchgirl]

So Stacey is doing a Jean? The death of Danielle must have triggered it.

[tammyy2j]

So Stacey is doing a Jean? The death of Danielle must have triggered it.

Yes she is bipolar

I think all that family including Sean are nutters

[megan999]

I don't mind the Nick/Dotty/Dot storyline now. And adding Billy to the mix was a good idea. His concern for Dot was sweet. Billy doesn't get to mix with many characters much except the Mitchells.

[*-Rooney-*]

Well it makes sense Danielles death setting off Staceys Manic behaviour, Isnt that how it all started with Jean - the Death of Staceys dad triggered Jean's

[Kim]

So Stacey is doing a Jean? The death of Danielle must have triggered it.

Yes she is bipolar

I think all that family including Sean are nutters

There is a very high concordance rate for bipolar, so she could well go on to develop it.

[tammyy2j]

Was the camera angles last night suppose to be like that?

Was it highlighting Stacey's illness?

[angel_eyes87]

Glad I wasn't the only one noticing that, its like Heather Cam the other week, I think the producer is trying out a new thing, making the situation appear more realistic as if it was them.

[Chris_2k11]

Was the camera angles last night suppose to be like that?

Was it highlighting Stacey's illness?Of course. It was showing things from her point of view.

Great stuff from Lacey, I liked the way the whole episode focused on her.

[parkerman]

Glad I wasn't the only one noticing that

I bet the producer is too, otherwise it would have been a bit of a waste of time.

[Bad Wolf]

Was the camera angles last night suppose to be like that?

Was it highlighting Stacey's illness?Of course. It was showing things from her point of view.

Great stuff from Lacey, I liked the way the whole episode focused on her.


gillian wright was fan-bloody-tastic too as jean- its nice how it has kinda come full circle now- she gets to be the carer, not just the "mad" one

[Perdita]

Watched the omnibus today and much to my surprise enjoyed it, which I have not for a few weeks. Brilliant performances from Lacey and Gillian :cheer:

[*-Rooney-*]

I think Lacey will do a great job with this storyline, and it does make a good change from the slapper and party animal

[angel_eyes87]

This storyline will be better than when we first saw Jean and how Stacey dealt with her Mum, because this is the beginning of the developments and how easily it can be triggered with a series of events happening around them. Stacey may have the usual Slapper routine with this storyline, because it will fit in with the development and I dont think it could have been shown any other way.

[Siobhan]

Watched the omnibus today and much to my surprise enjoyed it, which I have not for a few weeks. Brilliant performances from Lacey and Gillian :cheer:

They were fantastic... I love the whole role reversal from when we first met Jean... and it was well done by EE.. loved every minute of it. Good job :clap::clap: