Current Episode Discussion VI

[Lizzie Brookes]

I know. I watched the omnibus too and it was brilliant.The comedy with Shirley etc really broke up the tension between the Steven storyline and the Bradley/Stacey/Max one as well.

[DaVeyWaVey]

Heather's mum is so horrible isn't she?! :mad: I felt really sorry for poor Heather!

I agree that EE is improving now - the Steven Beale stuff was good too. Being played very well by the actor.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Another really good episode. The scene with Steven and Lucy was very moving. I wonder why Jane is cold towards Steven at the moment - I mean she certainly doesn't suspect he is the man who stalked her husband and drove him crazy. It's strange that everyoe should shun him like that. I don't know though - on Friday he was our typical charmer but today he hardly cracked a smile ad looked very solemn. What happened?

[StarsOfCCTV]

Steven is nice one minute and totally creepy the next! That scene with the guineapig was unnerving! :ninja:

Love the comedy between Heather and Shirley :D

[Lizzie Brookes]

Yes I suppose. He was a bit creepy when handling the guinea pig I agree but he was quite nice to Lucy when they were alone together. He was almost trying to make up for messing with her head by telling her truthfully that her mum was dead and that some sicko was messing with her head. That's the first honest thing he seems to have said so far. Yet, believe it or not I was a little sorry for Steven today because everyone was kind of brushing him off. First Jane has a go at him for accidentally spilling the milk and then suggests politely he leaves. Kevin has no time for him. Phil mutters that when one goes another arrives and though he sat with Pat, somehow i could sense that steven was seperated/isolated from them all and I'm wondering why everyone was like that round him since they don't know all the facts.

[Joanne]

I'm guessing he has issues with Simon as well. When he was holding the guinea pig he said something about you shouldn't have kids if you don't want them. Maybe he went to New Zealand because of his Dad but they never bonded and he blames Ian for this, for the lost years he can't get back with his real dad?

Does anyone know if Simon has any other children?

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I'm guessing he has issues with Simon as well. When he was holding the guinea pig he said something about you shouldn't have kids if you don't want them. Maybe he went to New Zealand because of his Dad but they never bonded and he blames Ian for this, for the lost years he can't get back with his real dad?

Does anyone know if Simon has any other children?

As far as i know i don't think he does but since he left he may have had and i've forgot about it but i don't think so.

[Florijo]

I'm guessing he has issues with Simon as well. When he was holding the guinea pig he said something about you shouldn't have kids if you don't want them. Maybe he went to New Zealand because of his Dad but they never bonded and he blames Ian for this, for the lost years he can't get back with his real dad?

Does anyone know if Simon has any other children?

I think this is what happened.

As far as we know Steven is his only child. I guess he doesn't have any others as Pat hasn't mentioned anything.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Charismatic, likeable and charming as he is, I think Steven is an extremely dangerous individual and though slightly sorry for him last Friday I can't see any way in which a reonciliation could take place and i have a feeling this will end with Steven either dead or in a psychiatric prison.

[Siobhan]

Was it just me or did he have the same expression on his face as Sean did when he started.. that angry young man, I want to destroy everything look???

[Lizzie Brookes]

Steven's different. I don't want to spoil anything but when I read the soap magazine for next week I found it very hard to be sorry for Steven though I pitied him on Friday. Sean - he may rough someone up but he certainly didn't attack Patrick as we know and he certainly loves his sister - he's not as cunning as Steven is. If only Steven would repent and seek help I could pity him but I can't see Ian forgiving even his former stepson for stalking him and luring him to that flat - it's gone too far.

[Siobhan]

It has gone to far... even if he does repent, I can see Ian constantly wondering if his son is behind everything that goes wrong in his life.. he terrified Ian

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Was it just me or did he have the same expression on his face as Sean did when he started.. that angry young man, I want to destroy everything look???

I agree, he looked like Sean alot during that episode lastnight, especially when he stormed out when Jane said it is best if he was to leave

[Lizzie Brookes]

I know - I have to be angry with him for what he did to Ian but I'm also sad and sorry for him. I wonder how Steven got into such a state. The question I keep asking myself is why? What possible reason could there be for what Steven has done? I mean even Pat and Jane knew he was not on good terms with Ian but they certainly did not suspect him to be Ian's stalker. And Ian - I'm very sorry for Ian. Though he is at times pathetic, he certainly does not deserve this and from his stepson of all people.

[Lizzie Brookes]

A really good episode last night. Aaron is a really good actor. That speech he had with Jane about her being young and may meet someone else,tactless as it was, it suggested to me that he himself likes Jane though of course Jane certainly wouldn't suspect that. It was strange when he was looking at her sleeping. If he really loved her though he would bring Ian back from wherever he's held him captive and get some help. Remember Tanya got through to Sean by saying that if he really cared for her he would leave her alone.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Good episode again lastnight, loved the bit with Roxie and Patrick that was cute, as was the bit with Dot & Honey.

Deano is daft for running off like that

[Siobhan]

Oh I though Honey was going into labour last night...
Steven is creepy, looking at Jane like that... can't wait for thursday

[Florijo]

I can't wait for the stuff with Deano and co to end. I love the Fox girls but I can't stand Deano and Kevin. Deano is just an idiot.

Steven gets creepier. :cool:

[Lizzie Brookes]

Yeah. I can't wait till Thursday either. I wonder why Jane went all cold towards him since Monday. On Friday sghe warmed to him but since Monday she's kind of distant which is strange given that she has no idea Steven is her husband's stalker.

[tammyy2j]

ok episode last night loved Patrick and Roxy scenes it was very sweet. I used to like Tanya's character but now she is organising the wedding she is becoming a pain calling Stacey her future daughter in law, what about Bradders real mother who Tanya cheated on with Max to begin with. Surely Stacey's mum, Charlie and Mo should be involved more with the organising. Stacey looked stunning in the dress and you could see Max wanted her. How ironic was it that Shirley (played by Linda Henry ex Yvonne from Bad Girls) was giving Deano advice on life behind bars. I really do hope Chelesa and Deano get a senetence btw still can't stand Chelesa and her awful sister Libby. Loving Steven he is so evil i can't believe her did to Ian, Lucy doesn't seem to care much that her dad is missing at least Peter is acting worried.

[Siobhan]

How ironic was it that Shirley (played by Linda Henry ex Yvonne from Bad Girls) was giving Deano advice on life behind bars.

Snap!! I was thinking the same thing... I thought she was going to tell him not to go into the basement and watch out for Fenner :lol::lol:

[Joanne]

Stacey's getting on my nerves at the moment. She's acting as though Max is the only one who should have a guilty conscience.

She shouted after him "how do you sleep at night" - she should be having just as many sleepless nights as him over it all in my opinion.

She always looks so sour faced and miserable. Surely Tanya can't be that stupid that she would fail to notice it whenever there's wedding stuff going on?

[Lizzie Brookes]

I agree with Max that Stacey is really selfish. Even Max is being mature about their past fling. Stacey isn't.

I wonder why Jane since Monday has been cold towards Steven siince she has no idea Steven is her husband's stalker. On Friday shewas pleasant to him though surprised at his unexpectedarival and his explanation about the phone being engaged and hitching a ride from Kent after travelling sounded plausible enough. After a day or two she shuns him and can't wait to get rid of him and yet he hasn't as far as Jane knows done anything wrong. Why the sudden switch?

[Siobhan]

it is to do with the kids.. she said herself, him been around is distracting the kids from the issue of their father missing...
I think she feels he is filling their heads with empty promises and stuff that it is not healthy for them

[Lizzie Brookes]

Oh I see, but in all fairness, isn't it good that they are not brooding over Ian's disappearance? I mean the arrival of a guest does break tension etc in the family and isn't it good to take your mind of your problems/worries for a bit?
Did Steven actually promise the twins anything? I can't remember. And can you really blame someone just for being charming and charismatic?

[Florijo]

okay episode. I wish Kevin would follow Deans footsteps and run away. Chelsea is the only thing that makes this storyline even half decent imo.

Steven as strange as ever.

Stacey makes me sick and Max went too far with Lauren. What a nice bloke he is! :ninja:

[Siobhan]

max really lost it with Lauren.. but I thought she would have found out... actually I was wishing so this would stop but alas no!!! how much longer do we have to enjure this!!

I was so happy for Jane when she got the text.. .I know it was from Steven but it was nice to see her smile...

[Lizzie Brookes]

I can't wait till tonight. Yes even though the text was actually from Steven and not Ian it was still good that she was reassured. I don't believe Steven would actually kill anyone so I don't think Jane would be wrong in supposing Ian to be alive. By the way, why did Steven throw her mobile into the fire last night?

[Florijo]

Oh no Carly is back :thumbsdow

[Lizzie Brookes]

Steven kissed her - wow. I thought for a second he was going to confess everything when he said he was the reason Ian left. I liked the scenes between them but because she thinks of him as a son she was quite shocked. She did say he could tell heranything which is why i suppose he did whast he didut he did apologise immediately. He always seems to put his foot in it with Jane though without meaning to.

[JustJodi]

I can't wait till tonight. Yes even though the text was actually from Steven and not Ian it was still good that she was reassured. I don't believe Steven would actually kill anyone so I don't think Jane would be wrong in supposing Ian to be alive. By the way, why did Steven throw her mobile into the fire last night?

I sort of thought the mobile was Ian's ???? Not Janes,, so Steven was basically DESTROYING evidence ???:searchme:

[Lizzie Brookes]

Mmm maybe. Despite being angry with him for what he did to Ian, I can't help feeling really sorry for him - especially tonight when he shocked Jane by kissing her. I think he does need help. I wuish Jane hadn't got angry though. A young boy having a crush onan oldr woman is the most natural thing in the world.

[JustJodi]

Lizzie what exactly did Steven do to Ian ??? I have been out of the country for a month ,, so fill me in pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...:o

[Lizzie Brookes]

It all began when Lucy was contacted online by some unknown person pretending to be her dead mum. She told Peter she was going to meet Cindy but Peter her brother was suspicious so told her dad Ian and stepmum Jane about it. Ian confiscated her laptop and wrote to the unknown person, pretending to be his daughter but the stranger did not fall for this. Then he began to get stalked. He got a wreath of flowers, a note with "Rest in Peace", an animal heart etc. He recieved texts and calls. The stranger could get in and out of the house - planted a book on insominia and all the rest of it. At first Ian thought his daughter was doing it, then his dead wife's sister. He accused his ownwife after ringing the mobile number that called him and discovering the mobile inher bag.

Hurt by his accusations, she told him to leave. He booked a trip to South Africa ahnd wrote to the stalker "Congratulations. You run my life. Ian" and the stalker wrote "Let's end this now. Meet me in the old pavilion in 20 minutes Cindy X" so he did. Following a series of clues he climbed up a derelict block of flats and got freaked out by a lptop playing music, a tailor's dummy on the balcony etc. Then he came to a room full of photyos of him and Cindy with his face crossed out. He broke down at which time the stranger entered the rom and locked the door and Ian said "It can't be". When the African hotel rang Jane to say Ian hadn't checked in and she found his passport she got frightened and told the police.

The stranger was revealed to be Steven Beale on Tuesday when Pat rang him to tell him all the news and he declared he was not in New Zealand but in London. Steven turned up in the house when Jane and Lucy were arguing like "a knight on a white charger", pretending to know nothing about what happened to Ian. He did regret his actions a little when Pat told him Ian always treated him as a son but he was quite unhinged. His legs were trembling and like the actor said - normal one minute, unhuinged the next - so unpredictable. Jane wanted him to leave once as the twins could not accept their dad's disappearance while he was around but changed her mind when she saw the strong bond between Steven and Lucy.

Steven assured Lucy that Cindy was dead and that some mental person was mesing with her head. He got a job in the cafe but developed a strong crush on Jane, upsetting her by reminding her she was still young and might find another man. She obviously didn't realise what he meant though the audience did. When the police questioned him about Ian he got nervous and sent a text supposedly from Ian to calm down Jane and stop the police investigations but unfortunately for him the police said they couldn't close the case until Ian returned. By yesterday Jane grew torely on Steven but when trying to get him to open up about his problems, Steven misread the signals and tried it on with her. She was appalled when he kissed her.

[parkerman]

By the way, why did Steven throw her mobile into the fire last night?

He threw his mobile in to the fire because the police said they would be able to trace the call, so he destroyed it.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Thanks for the clarification. I was quite sorry for Steven yesterday - he wasn't thinking and he did apologise straight away.

[Florijo]

Seeing it again I think Jane was a bit stupid to put her arms/hands on him like she did. I know that isn't an invitation to kiss her but by doing that she sent a signal that a mixed up person like Steven would take the wrong way.

[Lizzie Brookes]

That's why she shouldn't be angry with him. She probably thought of him as a son which is why he did thatbut he obviously made a mistake and he did apologise. I would only ask him to leave if I thought he was dabgerous in some way. I would probablty be a bit stuned if I were Jane and he kissed me but realising he is a bit uhinged I would be gentle and patient with him - anger doesn't help in these situations.

[Joanne]

But Jane doesn't realise yet that Steven is unhinged does she? Therefore she's got no reason to treat him with kid gloves.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Granted - Jane doesn't know he's unhinged yet but in that case, why is she so shocked? Lots of young lads have crushes on older women. That's not uncommon. I know he shouldn't have come on to a married woman but he made a mistake and he did apologise. Anyhow - sane or unhinged I would if i were Jane have understood Steven's feelings for what they were - an adolescent crush and would have reminded him that I am older than he, married etc and just got him to promise not to do it againand that if he did I would have no choice but to ask him to leave but I wouldn't get angry about it.

[Pinkbanana]

Granted - Jane doesn't know he's unhinged yet but in that case, why is she so shocked? Lots of young lads have crushes on older women. That's not uncommon. I know he shouldn't have come on to a married woman but he made a mistake and he did apologise. Anyhow - sane or unhinged I would if i were Jane have understood Steven's feelings for what they were - an adolescent crush and would have reminded him that I am older than he, married etc and just got him to promise not to do it againand that if he did I would have no choice but to ask him to leave but I wouldn't get angry about it.


Jane has had a lot to cope with, her main focus is on what has happened to Ian, looking after the children and generally keep things ticking over - she has enough on her plate, so why should she have understood his feelings or what he did?! :rolleyes:

He took advance of a situation, he probably doesnt have a crush on her anyway, he just wants to cause more pain for Ian, by sleeping with her, thats probably his true motivation.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I know that Jane has a lot to cope with but I can't believe Steven would just use her to get at Ian. It's Ian he has a problem with. He seems to be fine with the others. Besides he has Ian locked up. If he really wanted to hurt Ian he would surely kiss Jane infront of him. I know he took advantage of that situation but I'm sure that was unintentional though Jane wouldn't see it that way. He misunderstood. He thought Jane was comming on to him so he kissed her but he apologised straight away. I think Pat would probably understand better since Pat knows him better (he is a stranger to Jane) and Pat doesb't have so much to cope with a Jane does. I'm not blaming Jane. I just said I would deal with the situation differently that's all.

[Pinkbanana]

I know that Jane has a lot to cope with but I can't believe Steven would just use her to get at Ian. It's Ian he has a problem with. He seems to be fine with the others. Besides he has Ian locked up. If he really wanted to hurt Ian he would surely kiss Jane infront of him. I know he took advantage of that situation but I'm sure that was unintentional though Jane wouldn't see it that way. He misunderstood.

He is misunderstood?! :eek: He can see the pain that he is causing, and yet he is happily living under the same roof as Jane and the other children, watchiing them go through the daily stress of not knowing what has happened to Ian, when he is responsible for it!!!

Just think back to all the sick things he has done, why would you find it so hard to believe that he would use Jane to get at Ian?

[Lizzie Brookes]

I agree that what he did to Ian is sick and that it is outrageous of him to stay with Jane, Peter and Lucy when he himself caused their pain but it would be dull if they showed him as completely badd. I don't believe he is. Of course if he really loved Jane he would fetch Ian back from that flat and confess all to the police. He seemed to repent a little last Friday but not enough to confess. I think he does have a crush on Jane and the kiss was just because he misread the signals - that would show he is not completely bad and has some good in him - just gets things wrong as Pat said - yes i know you will say Pat doesn't know what he did to Ian but I think that mistake with the kiss was totally seperate from his sick vendetta against Ian. I think that was genuine. I did not say by the way that he is misunderstood. I just said he misunderstood as in he misunderstood/mistread Jane's signals.

[Pinkbanana]

I agree that what he did to Ian is sick and that it is outrageous of him to stay with Jane, Peter and Lucy when he himself caused their pain but it would be dull if they showed him as completely badd. I don't believe he is. Of course if he really loved Jane he would fetch Ian back from that flat and confess all to the police. He seemed to repent a little last Friday but bot enough to confess. I think he does have a crush on Jane and the kiss was just because he misread the signals - that would show he is not completely bad and has some good in him - just gets things wrong as Pat said - yes i know you will say Pat doesn't know what he did to Ian but I think that mistake with the kiss was totally seperate from his sick vendetta against Ian. I think that was genuine. I did not say by the way that he is misunderstood. I just said he misunderstood as in he misunderstood/mistread Jane's signals.


If he loved Jane, which he doesnt, then why would he bring Ian back? It would suit him better that Ian never returned! Moreover, he loves the twins supposedly, and yet he hasnt returned Ian or handed himself in, despite seeing first hand the devastation he is causing!!! He is one sick and twisted character....:thumbsdow

BTW dont you think he was totally out of order for try it on with Jane, when she is feeling very low and vulnerable, irrespective of how he felt? Also Jane is Ian's wife! The man he hates!!! Surely coming on to her would have added to his plan of revenge on Ian too?

[Lizzie Brookes]

If that's the way you want to look at it - his kissing Jane to hurt Ian then that's fine. That is your view. I agree that it was wrong for him to come onto Jane at that particular time and definitely wrong to come onto a married woman but I still think he misreasd the signals. She was talking to him as a son and when she put her hands on his shoulders and held his face - I suppose he just acted without thinking but he was quick to apologise and I doubt his apology would have come that quickly if he were just putting on an act or trying to further his revenge on Ian. I agree he doesn't love Jane, it is just a crush. He seemed to repent on Friday but he doesn't repent enough to hand himself in or bring back Ian so he loves the twins but not enough to put himself at risk.

He did seem a bit uncomfortable on Monday which is why he told Lucy some psycho was pretending to be Cindy and their mum is in fact dead. I'm not convinced he would be spilling milk etc around Jane if he didn't fancy her a little and if it were part of his sick vendetta against Ian. Besides if someone is unhinged, you hve to take that into account though I agree that he must take responsbility for his actions.

[Abbie]

I really thought he was going to confess everything but it looks like ti will be a good week next week then

[Lizzie Brookes]

I thought the same but how can you tell someone something like that? I don't think he had the guts. He didn't know how else to handle the situation other than to act on his crush on Jane. I am spasmodically compassionate towards him. I was last Friday and this Friiday and on Monday but at the same time I am angry with him for what he has done to Ian and how he can stand to live with Ian's family, knowing he is responsible for their sufferings.

[Kim]

Yeah, I like the character, but I'm quite angry with him for that too. I can't believe he didn't bother to shut the door behind him which caused Chips to go missing, even though he was worried about being caught for sending that text to Jane. It wasn't as if they were going to set out to trace the sender immediately.

For him to confess to everything would be too big a change in the character, I think. He ran away from what he'd done when he sent the poison pen letters, after all.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I know - but he was young then so nobody prosecuted. I agree it would be too big a change to confess. Yes I am surprised he didn't shut the gate but that was just irresponsibility. I think now, watching the omnibus, he burnt the phone he used to send the text so even if the police took Jane's mobile to trace which one sent it to her (I suppose the police can overcome the caller witheld their number thing) they couldn't because it would have been destroyed.

[Kim]

Yeah, I'm assuming he knew that would prevent a trace from being done, and so that is why he went off to do it. If he knew he was going to do that though, I can't believe he didn't shut the door though as someone might think it was a strange thing for him to do if they saw him leaving the house.

I can't see him really talking about anything major though; he locked himself in the bathroom initially in order to avoid having to immediately explain why he sent the poison pen letters.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Why is it strange to leave the house? I'm sure pople would have thought he just forgot to shut the gate as he had things on his mind. Remember that it has crossed nobody's mind that he is Ian's secret tormenter. Did he lock himself in the bathroom when revealed as the poison pen author? Cant remember. That was ages ago.

[Kim]

He'd been acting quite strangely though; Jane even said so to Pat. If someone saw him leaving like that, they might say he seemed troubled and everyone wonders why he is so troubled as it could get out that he hasn't been himself at times.

Yeah, it was ages ago. It was November 2002. I watched it again not so long ago. He ran into the bathroom when Ian and Laura weren't buying his story that Janine planted them in his school bag, and wouldn't come out until Laura said they just wanted to talk to him, weren't angry with him anymore and that it was just the shock that made them shout at him.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I know but even if they noticed that he was troubled about something and acting strangely would that necesarily make them suspect he is involved in Ian's disappearance? I mean the entire family's been troubled since Ian went missing so how is Steven any different?

[JustJodi]

Ok a dumb butt question,, did they bust the person who did clobber Patrick ??I seem to remember they could sort of see who did it,, but I can not remember 5 weeks ago LOL
Has Patrick had any further contact with Sean since he was let out of jail ?? I guess I need to catch up...
Steven is one disturbed young man.. his mental problems are all over the place.. Now hes picked up the twins and took them off some where..Surely Jane is gonna notice the SUV is gone.....:searchme: And totally freak out !!!! I guess he gave her the right set of keys,, but had extra keys made ???????

[StarsOfCCTV]

Ok a dumb butt question,, did they bust the person who did clobber Patrick ??I seem to remember they could sort of see who did it,, but I can not remember 5 weeks ago LOL
Has Patrick had any further contact with Sean since he was let out of jail ?? I guess I need to catch up...
Steven is one disturbed young man.. his mental problems are all over the place.. Now hes picked up the twins and took them off some where..Surely Jane is gonna notice the SUV is gone.....:searchme: And totally freak out !!!! I guess he gave her the right set of keys,, but had extra keys made ???????

It was Craig Lucy's dodgy boyfriend! I don't think Patrick has had contact with Sean..he's been so nervous since bless him!
Steven has issues...he seems to stand around half the time giving evils to people:lol: Jane will so freak out! He's taken the kids!

Loved Heather in this episode, she has the greatest one liners -
Shirley: "I've had an accident"
Heather: "You've wet youself?!"

[Florijo]

Justice is served. Chelsea is a good character but they deserve everything they get. Deano's "MMMUUMM" at the end was pathetic.

Steven stuff was good. Just love Sean, lol. He cracks me up more than any 'comedy' moments from Minty and Gary.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Well I'm sure Steven has his own keys since he could get in and out of the house before Jane even gave him the spare ones. I agree hat he is disturbed - it is strange he should persuade the twins to skive off school and come with him. He is definitely losing the plot but I don't think he is evil though of course he needs to take some kind of punishment for his actions and then seek help.

[Siobhan]

I love the bit with Heather and Shirley... Denise at the end made me cry..
stephen has Ian's keys hence he could take the car out...

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Good episode, the bit with Chelsea/Deano and all that bunch was good, the mag that come with the sun on saturday's said it was a shocking sentence so i thought it would be longer than it was, so little dissapointing on some level

[Johnny Allen]

loving Bobby Davro as Vince, I hope he has the same impact as Shane Ritchie did.

[Joanne]

Didn't enjoy tonight's episode very much - too many people sniping at each other. Lucy, Stacey, Chelsea and Shirley all got on my nerves.

Denise, predictably is now doing the "it's all my fault" routine.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I liked tonight's episode. Did you see the look on Steven's face when Lucy asked him to get rid of that gun? Even he was shocked. What he said to Pat was so ironic - "What does Jane think I'm going to do? Lock them up?" - Yety despite being angry with him for his treatment of Ian I am sure he genuinely loves Peter and Lucy and i can't help feeling sorry for him.

[Katy]

What was with the handing over of the gun in broad daylight in the square. It was a bit obvious wasn't it.
I'm loving Heather the more and more time she gets on screen the better. I think she is briliant. "Have you brokeen your neck"

[LostVoodoo]

What was with the handing over of the gun in broad daylight in the square. It was a bit obvious wasn't it.
with their bare hands, getting fingerprints all over it, no less...

[JustJodi]

hmmmmmm felt bad for Deano actually ( he was a mug to get suckered into Chelsa's idea any way) Chelsa tried to appear cool as a cucumber..
I felt bad for Denise,, I mean this gal who plays her uses REAL TEARS,, most actresses on the show just PRETEND to cry ( no visable tears )
Loved the stuff between vinnie, shirl and heather,,it was great, hope to see more of Vinnie..
I really found the whole Steven thing quite disturbing, and he really needs some professional help. Lucy bringing the gun out in the park was NUTZ !!!!! Now every body's finger prints are on that piece, Craigs, Lucys and now Stevens. A bit un realistic, but typically EastEnders style .
Looking forward to Thurs and Fri :hmm:

[Chris_2k11]

So I take it Shirley's gonna sue that bloke?

[brenda1971]

Have chelsea and Deano been sentenced now

[Lizzie Brookes]

Yes. They were sentenced for 6 months imprisonment but told that they would serve only three months if they cooperated. I'm waiting for tomorrow and Friday to find out what happens next with the Beales.

[Siobhan]

Jodi.. i think lucy is just a silly girl... she doesn't realise the extent of having that gun in her possession...and very silly for handing it to the guy with the complex!! Jane was pretty hard telling Stephen he can't go near the twins but I can understand her reasons.. Obviously none of them consider Bobby apart of the family.... Poor Peter, he just wanted to do the right thing by Jane and he facial expression were so like Ian's.. well done to the actor

Deano and Chelsea in prison, I am glad.. and how come everyone is now ok with what they did.. when they were told sean attacked patrick, poor Stacey got the dirty looks and now she is still getting them even when Sean was found innocent

[Lizzie Brookes]

Lucy doesn't know her brother is unhinged remember. She looks up to her older half brother and trusts him and actually watching the way Steven is around the twins I wouldn' mind having him for an older brother myself - at least if he were not so unhinged. Yes Jane was harsh. I was surprisedatually though I agree it was very irresponsible of Steven not to telephone. Yet I must remember that the man is not well.

[Florijo]

Deano and Chelsea in prison, I am glad.. and how come everyone is now ok with what they did.. when they were told sean attacked patrick, poor Stacey got the dirty looks and now she is still getting them even when Sean was found innocent

I agree. Where is the apology to Sean, Stacey, Charlie and Mo for all the horrible comments and looks they got from the pathetic, self absorbed lot known as the Wicks/Fox family? This is karma big style. Yes prison is a horrible place but they will spend no more than 3 months in there, Sean was looking at 15 years. They deserve it. I don't like Carly but she is the only one I have repect for. The rest of them would have been quite happy to have let Sean go down.

[parkerman]

Hear hear. Absolutely right. And also, what's all this everyone keeps saying about Chelsea and Deano admitting it? They only admitted it AFTER the police showed them the CCTV footage. They didn't admit it at all.

[Siobhan]

Yeah I was thinking that too.. didn't the police come looking for them on the square and it was not them going to the police... in fact they were arrest during their "local hero" interview... so admitting it was after the police seen the video.. well they could hardly say then "no, that is not me, Sean dressed up like the two of us and did it"...

[Florijo]

That is a good point. Chelsea and Dean (Chelsea epsecially) were not remorseful at all. They were backed into a cornor by Carly. I used to really like the Fox family (have always hated the Wicks) but I don't like them now. They treated the Slaters like scum. I hope their precious brats learn a lesson.

[Florijo]

Vinne is beginning to annoying me - I guess thats mostly cos i don't warm to that sort of Alfie character.

ha ha at Denise. I really dislike her now. Steven bits were okay but the rest was very 'filler'.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I like the end bit when he was trying to find the words to tell Lucy what he had done. Even Lcy was a bit scared to see him pacing up and down. I have to be angry with him for all the heartache he has caused but I am spasmodically compassionate towards him too. I don't believe Steven is evil. He is just mixed up. One question though. When lucy asked why he kept the gunhe told her it was complicated and would show her - I am sure he means by taking her to Ian but then why does locking Ian in a derelict block of flats stop him handing in the gun to the police? Is this just further evidence of his illness?

[Joanne]

I think he thinks that being given the gun is somehow linked in to when Cindy had Ian shot. Maybe he thinks it's some sort of sign that he should do what his mother didn't manage to?

[Lizzie Brookes]

In that case, why was he angry that Lucy gave him the gun?

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Love Vince, something about him, he is the sort of guy you wouldn't mind running you over :lol:

One episode i like Steven the next i find him weird and annoying and wish he would go back through what ever hole he came from and lastnight was one of them times

Love the bit with Peggy/Vince/Pat when Pat was congratulating Vince for running Shirley over :lol:

[Lizzie Brookes]

I think the chap's fascinating. I agree that he should get some help, release Ian and repent of his actions but I'm occasionally sorry for him and I really hope he will find a way to be reinstated into the family one day. I can't wait till tonight.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I think the chap's fascinating. I agree that he should get some help, release Ian and repent of his actions but I'm occasionally sorry for him and I really hope he will find a way to be reinstated into the family one day. I can't wait till tonight.

I agree he is interesting to watch, we never know what he will do next but he is one of them characters that it is easy to change your opinion of

[Siobhan]

I think he thinks that being given the gun is somehow linked in to when Cindy had Ian shot. Maybe he thinks it's some sort of sign that he should do what his mother didn't manage to?

didn't he say that.. he has to finish what his mum started???? really dark episode last night.. Aaron is a fab actor

I am taken to Vince.. love the whole toilet paper thing with the car and wonder who the boy is.. maybe a son he never gets to see???

[Lizzie Brookes]

I think the chap's fascinating. I agree that he should get some help, release Ian and repent of his actions but I'm occasionally sorry for him and I really hope he will find a way to be reinstated into the family one day. I can't wait till tonight.

I agree he is interesting to watch, we never know what he will do next but he is one of them characters that it is easy to change your opinion of

Well I am angrywith him one minute, the next minute I like him, the next minute I'm sorry for him. So yes you are right. You do change your opinion of him constantly.

[Lizzie Brookes]

[quote=Joanne;535289]I think he thinks that being given the gun is somehow linked in to when Cindy had Ian shot. Maybe he thinks it's some sort of sign that he should do what his mother didn't manage to?

didn't he say that.. he has to finish what his mum started???? really dark episode last night.. Aaron is a fab actor

IQUOTE]

Surely even Steven, unhinged as he is wouldn't want to kill Ian?

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I think the chap's fascinating. I agree that he should get some help, release Ian and repent of his actions but I'm occasionally sorry for him and I really hope he will find a way to be reinstated into the family one day. I can't wait till tonight.

I agree he is interesting to watch, we never know what he will do next but he is one of them characters that it is easy to change your opinion of

Well I am angrywith him one minute, the next minute I like him, the next minute I'm sorry for him. So yes you are right. You do change your opinion of him constantly.

I will probably like him again tonight :lol:

I felt sorry for Libby lastnight aswell actually, the bit with her and Kevin was sweet

[Lizzie Brookes]

Well it will be an exciting night but I doubt I'll like or be compassionate towards Steven if he treats Ian badly.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Well it will be an exciting night but I doubt I'll like or be compassionate towards Steven if he treats Ian badly.

Fan of Ian then? I like Ian, he is a good character but i think this could be a good story line if he does do something because it shows the effects of everything Steven has been through

[Lizzie Brookes]

No. I'm not really a fan of Ian but I naturally don't like the way Steven treats Ian though I'm sorry for Steven because he's unhinged. Even Ian doesn't deserve to be stalked, terrorised and locked up. No-one does and Steven is most definitely out of line to treat the kind stepfather who brought him up and loved him all these years like that. I can forigve Steven because i know he is not well. Otherwise - well I wouldn't hate Steven but I would think he deserves to be arrested and locked up. It's only because he's messed up and i can see he has some good in him that I can forgive him.Basically what he is doing to Ian is wrong, sick and twisted and while he is doing it I can't like him.

[Florijo]

I'm fasinated by Steven, but then I always am with 'off the wall' and slightly not all there characters - Stella, Sean and Steven. I like the ones that are so unpredictable.

I'm getting a bit sick of Libby's obsession with grades/Tamwar. It's getting silly now and putting me off the only remaining Fox/Wicks family member I like.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I agree Libby is being idiotic. Who cares if Tamwar got an A* and Libby got an A? I wasn't sorry for Stella at all because she was abusing a child and I hated that but I was fascinated by her. Lucy's boyfriend Craifg I completely hated and certainly wan't fascinated by - he was a bit more of the typical villain. I was very sorry for May but in her casse she did commit crime and had to be punished for it and it is not that awkward family case as with Steven. In Steven's case, he is a member of the family, being Lucy's half brother and Ian and Jane's stepson and I think medical treatment would benefit him better than being treated like a common criminal and yes I have compassion for him though he was definitely out of line on more than one occasion.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I'm getting a bit sick of Libby's obsession with grades/Tamwar. It's getting silly now and putting me off the only remaining Fox/Wicks family member I like.

When i said i felt sorry for her i meant with the Dean/Chelsea thing, the grade thing was stupid, A is still good, i would have loved to have got A in something :lol:

[parkerman]

I'm fasinated by Steven, but then I always am with 'off the wall' and slightly not all there characters - Stella, Sean and Steven.


I think you could have spotted a trend here... who else begins with the letter 'S'? Shirley?

[Lizzie Brookes]

My heart went right out to Steven in tonight's episode. If only Jane han't come just then Ian would hve hugged Steven and Steven would have cried on his shoulder. I don't believe Ian was to blame. He did his best by the boy and was understadably angry but when Steven began to talk he seemed to get less angry. Was Steven going to commit suicide? I'm watching the repeat at 10 so I'll look carefully. I thought it was going to be really violent but it wasn't after all. That was a bad move on Luy's part - calling Jane. It would have been better if she hadn't. Ian dealt with it best apart from trying to phone the police. I can understand Steven and i know in hostage situations you obey the captor and the last thing you do is contact anyone - especially police.

[Florijo]

My heart went right out to Steven in tonight's episode. If only Jane han't come just then Ian would hve hugged Steven and Steven would have cried on his shoulder. I don't believe Ian was to blame. He did his best by the boy and was understadably angry but when Steven began to talk he seemed to get less angry. Was Steven going to commit suicide? I'm watching the repeat at 10 so I'll look carefully. I thought it was going to be really violent but it wasn't after all. That was a bad move on Luy's part - calling Jane. It would have been better if she hadn't. Ian dealt with it best apart from trying to phone the police. I can understand Steven and i know in hostage situations you obey the captor and the last thing you do is contact anyone - especially police.

I felt sorry for Steven. What he did was terrible but I feel sorry for him. I agree, Ian wasn't to blame. I don't think Lucy knew what to do really. Ian was stupid trying to call the police but then he didn't know Steven had a gun.

I think he was going to commit suicide. Jane was stupid. Ian had the situation calm then Jane comes barging in. Lucy must have told her Steven had a gun so what the hell was she thinking?

[Lizzie Brookes]

I had sympathy for Steven and Lucy and respected Ian to some extent. I didn't like what Jane did and Lucy wass unwise to do that - Ian would have told her not to. Even at thirteen I would have had more sense. Jane would be angry and overreact and that is the last thing either Ian or Steven need. I wanted to give Steven a hug tonight. He has just proved to me he is not evil, just unwell.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I suppose it was something we needed to see (as in we needed to know what Steven's issues are) but i was so bored

[Lizzie Brookes]

Bored? I was totally gripped. I even watched the repeat at 10 on BBC3 and I'm defiitely seeing the omnibus tomorrow.

[Joanne]

I can totally understand Jane's reaction. She didn't know that Ian and Steven had come to some sort of understanding. After everything that Steven has put her through over the past few weeks, her reaction of elation and relief at seeing Ian coupled with her fury towards Steven I think was spot on.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I suppose, but she could have listened to Ian when he told her not to do anything stupid. Also Lucy didn't need to phone Jane at that point. She could just have waited. If i were Lucy that is what i would have done - just wait. If i were Jae, however angry I was at Steven and however relieved I was to se Ian I wouldn't have goaded Steven like she did or punched him because it is obvious the man is unwell and actually even Jane could have sensed the mood was calmer and seen that Ian was on the point of hugging Steven.

[Suzanne]

I thought last night's episode was brilliant! Even my husband who hates Eastenders thought it was good.

I can understand Jane's reaction - she had no idea what Ian and Steven had been discussing, only that Steven had been putting her, the kids and Ian through hell for over a week.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I wonder if there is any way back at all for Steven from such disgrace. I want to hope there is because I have compassion for him but it is so hard to forgive someone - brother, stepson - or not for causing such pain and creating such havoc.

[Joanne]

Ian and the twins will probably forgive him because of obvious emotional ties.

Jane however is different - after what she has gone through recently and with what is still to come I would be surprised if she could ever really forgive him. I certainly couldn't and wouldn't.

But this is a Soap and I expect the Beales, including Steven will all be having a happy Christmas dinner together in a couple of months and none of this will even be mentioned.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I suppose the gun did go off accidentally when Lucy, Ian and Jane were trying to stop Steven committing sucide. I agree that Jane would find it very difficult. She may be civil to him though for the sake of Ian and the twins. Pat might forgive him because she knows himbetter than anyone - even Ian. Lucy is quite close to him. Ian? - maybe he will come round, eventually. This was such a terrible tragedy though. If only he had not taken Lucy to that flat but handed both the gun and himself in, then maybe Ian would have dropped the charges given that Steven made the effort to hand himself in but on th other hand they wouldn't have reached that understanding. I am now guessing Steven was in this on his own though t one point a lot of people suspected Gina was in on it too though I never believed that.

[Suzanne]

I suppose the gun did go off accidentally when Lucy, Ian and Jane were trying to stop Steven committing sucide. I agree that Jane would find it very difficult. She may be civil to him though for the sake of Ian and the twins. Pat might forgive him because she knows himbetter than anyone - even Ian. Lucy is quite close to him. Ian? - maybe he will come round, eventually. This was such a terrible tragedy though. If only he had not taken Lucy to that flat but handed both the gun and himself in, then maybe Ian would have dropped the charges given that Steven made the effort to hand himself in but on th other hand they wouldn't have reached that understanding. I am now guessing Steven was in this on his own though t one point a lot of people suspected Gina was in on it too though I never believed that.

I respect that you have a lot of empathy for Steven, he really is a tortured soul. I never watched EE when Cindy was alive, but listening to Steven last night, it sounds like Steven thought his mother could do no wrong. He even had a bit of a moment with Dot when she didn't say how wonderful Cindy was to Steven.

Steven was never 'right' though. I started watching EE about the time Janine was getting all those poison pen letters that came from Steven.

[Chris_2k11]

Personally I expected the episode to be a lot better.

[StarsOfCCTV]

Same...I think EE could've done better. Still looking forward to Monday's episode though! :D

[Lizzie Brookes]

I suppose the gun did go off accidentally when Lucy, Ian and Jane were trying to stop Steven committing sucide. I agree that Jane would find it very difficult. She may be civil to him though for the sake of Ian and the twins. Pat might forgive him because she knows himbetter than anyone - even Ian. Lucy is quite close to him. Ian? - maybe he will come round, eventually. This was such a terrible tragedy though. If only he had not taken Lucy to that flat but handed both the gun and himself in, then maybe Ian would have dropped the charges given that Steven made the effort to hand himself in but on th other hand they wouldn't have reached that understanding. I am now guessing Steven was in this on his own though t one point a lot of people suspected Gina was in on it too though I never believed that.

I respect that you have a lot of empathy for Steven, he really is a tortured soul. I never watched EE when Cindy was alive, but listening to Steven last night, it sounds like Steven thought his mother could do no wrong. He even had a bit of a moment with Dot when she didn't say how wonderful Cindy was to Steven.

Steven was never 'right' though. I started watching EE about the time Janine was getting all those poison pen letters that came from Steven.

Thanks for saying that - about the empathy I mean. It's true. I do have a lot of empathy for him and in some ways though I certainly haven't gone through what he has, I can understand how he's thinking and feeling and everything. What he did was definitely wrong but like you said he was never "right". He is very intense about things. He has idolised his dead mum and when he discovered going to New Zealand was a mistake because Simon did not want him he really needed to find someone to blame because he couldn't accept he was wrong and the ideal person was Ian.

Like the actor said he convinced himself that it was Ian's fault his mum died in prison and he clung to this notion until it became a fixed delusion because it enabled him to blame the man whom he felt had betrayed him by lying to him about his parentage for 13 years. Yes I saw that - I was quite shocked when the culprit of the poison pen letters turned out to be Steven. Yes he has put Cindy on a pedestal - saying how beautiful she was and everything and the twins were a bit scared by his obsession with their dead mum. I have compassion with him despite being angry about his treatment of Ian. Ian as beginning to understand i think but then Lucy sneaked out and ruined everything by bringing along Jane who is unsurprisingly angry and upset and makes the situation worse.

[Siobhan]

I found friday was a very dark episode.... loved that Ian picked Jane out of all his ex wifes. Stephen really does need to move on, Ian was right. his move to NZ didn't turn out for stephen so he blames is all on Ian.. Jane should have kept her mouth shut but what a great right hook she gave him

[Katy]

I thought it was really good the writing was better than usual as well as it was really gripping listening to Ian and Stephen in the room. All you needed was the dialogue there was no action. I can't wait till Monday.

[Florijo]

Considering it was written by one of EE worse writers, it was good. Long dialogue episodes are always harder to watch if the dialogue isn't sharp and snappy but I think the fact it was about such long standing characters such as Ian, Cindy and Steven helped make it interesting.

I'm not sure there is anyway back for Steven but the fact he isn't being made out to be evil, just messed up, gives hope that they can. Ian and Lucy obviously care about him, as does Pat.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Tonight's episode was fantastic and Aaron was brilliant, even topped Friday night. Yes I believe Steven - it was definitely an accident. He was in complete shock and totally devastated when he injured Jane. I thought Lucy would be quite severe when reminding him that his actions affected all around him not just Ian but she wasn't she was quite calm, well not calm but she didn't seem angry - just hurt, betrayed and bewildered. I can't blame ian for hating Steven at the moment. The gun firing mayhave been an accident but his behaviour was totally despicable. Locking Ian up and allowing his family to believe he was dead, consoling Jane when he was the cause of their misery, manipulating the photos - even Lucy said so and she couldn't believe it.

The only reason I am sorry for him is because he is ill and even Ian realised it in the end. He still has compassion for Steven - he was shaking and saying things about being unable to eat or sleep - I wonder what he meant by that. Yet if his life in New Zealand - and he himself chose to go - was so bad why did he not ring Ian and ask to come home? Ian would have welcomed him with open arms, the twins would have been delighted and Jane glad to meet him. In general I disapprove of lying to the police naturally but under these circumstances however angry Ian was with her for it, she did right I think. Prison won't benefit Steven - he needs hekp and it's good to see that Ian's affection for Lucy prompted him to go and see his stepson.

I really hope that when Steven is better they can sort this mess out though Steven is going to have to worlk very hard after what he has done to show his repentance etc. I'm glad Jane realised that she shouldn't have hit him and that he needs help. She saw now that Ian had him calm and what she did made him unstable again.

[Florijo]

I feel sorry for Steven - he is ill not evil and that has been the key. He isn't some evil kid out to harm, he is ill.

Brilliant episode tonight. Kudos to Aaron. For his first big acting role, he has been a brilliant find. The bit when he said "Dad" and Ian left was very sad. Ian's devastation in the car was sad too.

Little Bobby is a star. He is so cute.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I was sorry for Steven too and I agree that a psychiatric hospital is better for him than prison. Steven finally called Ian "dad" after so long but its too late, it's just too late. Even if they manage to get through this after he is better - it will never be quite the same again. I can't blame either ian Jae or Lucy for being angry wiyth him - he has wrecked the family and acted against the people who cared most about him, yet he is ill and I sympathise with him. Jane guesed that Steven would have a mental breakdown and she turned out to be absolutely right. Any normal person if unhappy would have done the right thing, rung up and come home but Steven isn't normal - that bit about being confused between images in his head and reality was scary. I wish he could have apologised and thanked Ian for taking him to the hospital but I suppose he wasn't well enough. I wonder how Pat will react to the news.

[Jessie Wallace]

Loved tonight's episode, the acting was superb from all, i actually thought Melissa stole the show tho. Hope we get some more episode's like this :thumbsup:

[Joanne]

Why did the Police not query why the Beales were in a flat on the top floor of an abandoned tower block? They must have asked them for names and address details so would know that they weren't homeless squatters.

[JustJodi]

Why did the Police not query why the Beales were in a flat on the top floor of an abandoned tower block? They must have asked them for names and address details so would know that they weren't homeless squatters.

Thanks I was thinking of the same thing, the police are going to be really interested,,,cos Ian is there,, his wife is shot and his daughter is there and some unknown assilant has scarpered off .. Ian was reported missing by his wife and now hes up there in an abondonded housing complex ..how did his wife know to find him and his daughter ???
Will be interesting to see how EE handles all this,,:wall:

[Joanne]

Also Ian told the Police on the phone that he knew who the shooter was. Lucy, as good a liar as she may be then tells the Police a **** and bull story which they seem to swallow completely, no questions asked.

[parkerman]

Why did the Police not query why the Beales were in a flat on the top floor of an abandoned tower block? They must have asked them for names and address details so would know that they weren't homeless squatters.
Just what I was thinking. Lucy's story wouldn't stand up for a second.

Also, isn't Ian lucky to just happen to know someone (who we've never heard of before) who runs a mental health clinic who can take Steven in - probably at the cost of something like £3000 a week - immediately?

[Joanne]

As far as the Police are aware there is still a gunman on the loose - this has got to be followed up surely. Otherwise, just when Eastenders has been enjoying a purple patch for several months it will lose credibility again.

I wonder if anyone will tell Simon?

[tammyy2j]

Why did the Police not query why the Beales were in a flat on the top floor of an abandoned tower block? They must have asked them for names and address details so would know that they weren't homeless squatters.

I thought the same thing

Great episode i felt so sorry for Ian and Steven great acting for all involved. It easy to see how Lucy is Cindy's daughter

[JustJodi]

Does any one think that Simon will show up and take his mixed up son back to New Zealand ?? Or Pat takes him back ( isn't it about time for her to take a HOLIDAY ..shes loosing her tan lol )

[Jessie Wallace]

Wow it's all so serious!!!!!

If you listen to the show you'd have heard Police ladying saying about Ian having some kind of break down and that's why he was there, as for interogating Lucy at the time, she's a minor so there's only so much can be done on the scene, must questioning is done a day or 2 later, when things have calmed down for the child.

So we'll just have to wait and see what happen's then.

[parkerman]

questioning is done a day or 2 later,

So, in the meantime, the Police let a gunman out on the streets without finding out more about him?

[Jessie Wallace]

They've done all they can with a minor, she'd be questioned the next day, and yes sometimes a day later Ian would have to be with her. There's no point interviewing two hysterical people, it wouldn't get you anywhere

[JustJodi]

They've done all they can with a minor, she'd be questioned the next day, and yes sometimes a day later Ian would have to be with her. There's no point interviewing two hysterical people, it wouldn't get you anywhere

Nope you have a woman bleeding with a gunshot wound, a frazzled shabby looking husband, and a freaked out kid,,, I thought it was a bit werid that the police lady let Lucy stay.. I must have sneezed or something,, did the Police Lady see Steven ???

[tammyy2j]

Does any one think that Simon will show up and take his mixed up son back to New Zealand ?? Or Pat takes him back ( isn't it about time for her to take a HOLIDAY ..shes loosing her tan lol )

Now is a good time for Simon to return.

Didn't Pat's other granchild David's son Joe also have a mental health problem?

I think Steven and the actor playing him are a great addition to the cast, anyone know if Steven will return?

[Jessie Wallace]

They've done all they can with a minor, she'd be questioned the next day, and yes sometimes a day later Ian would have to be with her. There's no point interviewing two hysterical people, it wouldn't get you anywhere

Nope you have a woman bleeding with a gunshot wound, a frazzled shabby looking husband, and a freaked out kid,,, I thought it was a bit werid that the police lady let Lucy stay.. I must have sneezed or something,, did the Police Lady see Steven ???

She let Lucy stay because it was Steven her Brother, she didn't know about him shooting Jane!

[Florijo]

Does any one think that Simon will show up and take his mixed up son back to New Zealand ?? Or Pat takes him back ( isn't it about time for her to take a HOLIDAY ..shes loosing her tan lol )

Now is a good time for Simon to return.

Didn't Pat's other granchild David's son Joe also have a mental health problem?

I think Steven and the actor playing him are a great addition to the cast, anyone know if Steven will return?

Yes Joe had schizophrenia.

[Dutchgirl]

Does any one think that Simon will show up and take his mixed up son back to New Zealand ?? Or Pat takes him back ( isn't it about time for her to take a HOLIDAY ..shes loosing her tan lol )

Didn't she just return? Her tan is fading a bit, you're right.

[Florijo]

Can Denise please change the record. It is getting tiresome now and not in the least bit funny. The new Masoods look good but as i said can we stop this silly little feud now.

Ian/Jane stuff was good.

[Joanne]

I felt so sorry for Jane tonight. I actually had tears in my eyes when the Doctor told them that he'd had to remove her womb.

[Abbie]

I felt so sorry for Jane tonight. I actually had tears in my eyes when the Doctor told them that he'd had to remove her womb.

I know it was so sad, I feel so sorry for her. I realy like the ian and jane stuff at the moment and normally I cant stand Ian

[Johnny Allen]

Monday's episode felt like the old Eastenders, excellent drama and top notch acting Aaron and Adam Woodyatt were exceptional as was Melissa and Laurie Brett (who has been one of the finest performer in the show for months on end).

[Abbie]

I really did like Mondays, Pat was very funny- lol the Wizard of Oz

[Lizzie Brookes]

I know - that was sad but didn't Ian have a vasectomy? So it wouldn't be possible anyway. I still can't help thinking they have more than enough children. Ian has 2 sons, a daughter and a stepson - more than enough. The nurse is right - the "gunman" had no idea of the damage he caused but knowing Steven I'm sure he will be shocked and guilt ridden about it.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I know - that was sad but didn't Ian have a vasectomy? So it wouldn't be possible anyway.

They can reverse vasectomy's so i think it will have been possible

[Abbie]

I know - that was sad but didn't Ian have a vasectomy? So it wouldn't be possible anyway.

They can reverse vasectomy's so i think it will have been possible

I remember him going to the doctors or something to talk about it getting done

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I know - that was sad but didn't Ian have a vasectomy? So it wouldn't be possible anyway.

They can reverse vasectomy's so i think it will have been possible

I remember him going to the doctors or something to talk about it getting done

Yeah i remember that too, bet he is kicking himself that they didn't get it sorted sooner

[Lizzie Brookes]

That moment yesterday when Ian was saying to Steven - What did I do to you to deserve all that? What did Jane ever do to you? etc - it was all very heart rending - And steven just sat there shaking. He seemed calmer afterwards but his eyes still did't look normal and then he was on the phone today to Pat - he has a right to know i think about Jane's womb being removed and Im sure Pat would tell him. I can't help feeling sorry for him despite all the damage he did because he's not well and is good at heart.

[Joanne]

I don't think for a second that the fact that Ian has 4 children already will in anyway compensate Jane for not being able to have children of her own.

[Lizzie Brookes]

No of course not Joanne - I'm not saying that for a moment. I was just thinking in terms of practicality maybe it is not a good idea to keep having babies that's all.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

No of course not Joanne - I'm not saying that for a moment. I was just thinking in terms of practicality maybe it is not a good idea to keep having babies that's all.

In all fairness it isn't a case of "keep" in Jane's case, even if they were just to have the one together it would be better than none

[Jessie Wallace]

didn't Ian have a vasectomy?

Yes he did, but it didn't work hense how he has Bobby as his son now. He may have had it done again, but i'm not aware of that, i can't say that i pay attention to ever tiny detail of the show lol

[Lizzie Brookes]

I wonder - does a mental illness affect you physically then? I'm just thinking about what Steven said on Monday - throwing up whenhe ate, being unable to sleep and shaking like that.

[LostVoodoo]

I wonder - does a mental illness affect you physically then? I'm just thinking about what Steven said on Monday - throwing up whenhe ate, being unable to sleep and shaking like that.

yes it does. and all those symptoms are related to complete and utter stress anyway.

so does Pat know everything? i understand that she was at the hospital and knew Jane had been shot and all that, but does she definately know it was Steven and where he now is? oh yeah, and how on earth is Peter supposed to believe that story Ian made up?!

[Lizzie Brookes]

Peter did look a bit suspicious when he saw the way Ian was acting. If it were me of course, Ian would have no chance of concealing what's been going on. I don't know if Pat knows but I think she must know or at least guess because she wouldn't have been so shocked when Steven rang her otherwise. Lucy disapears and so does Steven. Jane says she needs to go out. Then Ian reappears and Pat hears Jane has been shot. Then Steven rings up. Doesn't take a genius to work it out.

[Siobhan]

I think pat does know.. I think Ian or lucy told her... Anyways..how sad was that bit where Ian goes to see peter and bobby... I bawled like a baby :crying: it was so so sweet....

Poor Jane... my heart goes out to her.. all she ever wanted was her own child and she can't have that now

[Lizzie Brookes]

I'm sorry for all of them - this was such a tragedy, the whole thing.

[Dutchgirl]

Again Adam and Lauries performances brought tears to my eyes. Must still be the hormones. Superb acting. I hope they do not spoil it with any more dumb Phil and Ian scenes.

Classic scenes. Really gripping stuff. Can not get enough of it.

[Florijo]

re: Phil/Ian scenes. I hope now they finally move on from Mitchell/beale feuds. Let the characters mature and realise that their kids are more important not silly little feuds

[Lizzie Brookes]

I was rewatching the old Steven clips. It was so funny when Steven said "Get Lucy to shut up? You might as well ask the sun not to rise." Aaron plays him with real charisma sometimes and you really feel comfortable around him. I thought I wouldn't mind sitting next to him in the pub and having a drink or being in Lucy's shoes with him as an older brother even despite knowing what he did to Ian.

[Joanne]

Why didn't Bradley just go to bed? :wall:

[StarsOfCCTV]

:lol: I know! Did I miss something at the beginning? Why did he keep falling asleep? :p

Charlie and that kilt :rotfl: So funny

[Joanne]

He had been at work all night.

[JustJodi]

hmmmmmmm I think I am going to like the guy who plays the Indian woman's hubby,, Too bad Denise wasn't around to over hear what the wife told the hubby ( loosing all their possessions cos hubby wanted CHEAP )( moving van /removal van whatever u guys call it over there )
Charlie looked awful in that kilt,, Mo never knows when to shut up does she..
Wow I thought that the Mitchells had tons of money (where is Phil and Ben any ways ????)
Peggy must have run up that 40 thousand pound debt when she re decorated the house and the Queen Vic .. didn't Marco/Mario (?) rip her off ???( cos there was NO CHANGE in the Queen Vic....
Minty was a heart attack waiting to happen when he was tucking in that fry up...
This evenings episode was OK...

[Dutchgirl]

Wow I thought that the Mitchells had tons of money (where is Phil and Ben any ways ????)



They went to Portugal to stay with Grant, Phil needed the time with Ben. I was wondering do children get time off that easily in England? Isn't there inspection or anything? Cannot believe it could be that easy to take kids out of school for such a long time. Must be the teacher in me, did not anyone else notice it?

[parkerman]

Wow I thought that the Mitchells had tons of money (where is Phil and Ben any ways ????)



I was wondering do children get time off that easily in England? Isn't there inspection or anything? Cannot believe it could be that easy to take kids out of school for such a long time. Must be the teacher in me, did not anyone else notice it?


Personally, I have given up any hope that Eastenders will actually conform to any sort of reality. :)

[JustJodi]

Wow I thought that the Mitchells had tons of money (where is Phil and Ben any ways ????)



I was wondering do children get time off that easily in England? Isn't there inspection or anything? Cannot believe it could be that easy to take kids out of school for such a long time. Must be the teacher in me, did not anyone else notice it?


Personally, I have given up any hope that Eastenders will actually conform to any sort of reality. :)

I was about to say the same thing you said Parkerman,, JJ :D

[Siobhan]

I cracked up with charlie in the kilt :lol::lol:
Did you see the look on everyone's faces when Mammy Bradley walked in.. when did she become so strong.. wasn't she an emotional wreck the last time we saw her???

Peggy has no money!!! what happened to the black hole bank account and "drinks are on me" slogan????

[Dutchgirl]

Personally, I have given up any hope that Eastenders will actually conform to any sort of reality. :)
Well fair enough! I had to have a reality check.:o

[Dutchgirl]

I cracked up with charlie in the kilt :lol::lol:
Did you see the look on everyone's faces when Mammy Bradley walked in.. when did she become so strong.. wasn't she an emotional wreck the last time we saw her???

Peggy has no money!!! what happened to the black hole bank account and "drinks are on me" slogan????

I'm with you on Bradleys mother, I wondered how she was going to fit in. But where are Sean and Jean?

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

It all just seemed to me like silly little stories lastnight that had no purpose other than to fill the episode, wasnt anything overly fantastic but it was ok

Charlie in a kilt though - got to love that :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Priceless!!

[tammyy2j]

Mo was hilarious last night and also Charlie in the kilt was priceless :lol: :lol:

Where was Ian and Jane i thought they would be more on them.

BTW is Tanya still pregnant?

Poor Minty i hope he will be ok.

Anyone else think Garry may now have his eye now on Carly

[StarsOfCCTV]

Mo was hilarious last night and also Charlie in the kilt was priceless :lol: :lol:

Where was Ian and Jane i thought they would be more on them.

BTW is Tanya still pregnant?

Poor Minty i hope he will be ok.

Anyone else think Garry may now have his eye now on Carly

Tanya's still pregnant..:)

Me and my mum feel bad for laughing at Minty because we thought he was just kidding around at first :p

Garry and Carly..yes I think there is something there too..but will Garry ever act on it? He seems to have gotten over Dawn quick! :lol:

[Lizzie Brookes]

The poor Beales deserve a break after their fantastic storyline. Don't worry they'll be back I'm sure. I personally think the entire family should be in therapy, not just Steven beause they have all been through trauma.

Yes Tanya is still pregnant I think. I didn't think for a minute that Minty was putting it on. He didn't have to do that - Hazel likes him as he is. He doesnt have to change for her. Garry and Carly - yeah they'd be good together. Charlie looked stupidin that kilt. I'm not surprised Bradley refused. Poor Bradley just wanted to get some sleep and nobody would leave him alone.

[Siobhan]

Oh my god.. how much of a spoilt cow was roxy tonight???? it was all me me me..

[Florijo]

I love the Masoods, especially the dad! :D

Tanya v Rachel was hilarious! :D

[StarsOfCCTV]

Oh my god.. how much of a spoilt cow was roxy tonight???? it was all me me me..

Yeah she was a bit, but then she stuck up for Peggy at the end :D

Eastenders had a brainwave creating Mr Masood he's so funny :lol:

[Joanne]

Stacey has been miserable for so long now that I can't remember her ever being happy. Has she ever been happy?

[Perdita]

Loved Minty tonight as he was laying in the Post Office and told Hazel:
Look at me, I am like Homer Simpson on a bad day. :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:
Hope we get more brilliant scenes with Tanya and Rachael too. :clap:

[Lizzie Brookes]

I wonder if Pat ever suspected Steven was behind Ian's disappearance. I mean on the 2nd of october she told Steven that she rang Simon who said he had some trouble in New Zealand. Simon denied that it was his dad getting a gierlfriend and was evasive when asked if it was Ian and Pat said something along the lines of "You turning up in England after all these years and ian not being here - I know your secrets, something isn't right".

[Johnny Allen]

Eastenders had a brainwave creating Mr Masood he's so funny :lol:


They definately did he's comic gold, so funny I love the Masood funny, him clean with the feather duster cracked me up. And Tanya and Rachel were funny having little digs at each other, I can see Tanya giving her a smack sometime very soon. Loved Roxy telling the Ballifs to get lost.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

So glad Roxie came in when she did :cheer: least she didn't hold a grudge for long

I don't like the new lot much yet but maybe i will change my mind, though i did like it (i forget which episode it was) when Denise was saying that the woman had the nerve to stand there and smile at her and Kevin said she was being friendly and Denise was like no way was she being friendly :rotfl:

[Kim]

I loved that, Classic. They didn't seem like very good bayliffs though, being scared off like that. I'm surprised at the fact that they didn't think to bring an axe or something like the ones that evicted the Ferrairas did, because they'd sent Peggy plenty of letters and called The Vic many times.

Loved the Denise stuff too, and especially where Kevin was telling her to be friendly and then he realised that it was the postman that was like, "How do I know you're Mr K Wicks? Have a good day now, Mr K Wicks!" actually lived there.

Can't wait to see how Jane is with Steven after she comes out as she now can't have a baby.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

That Mr K Wicks thing was really odd, but entertaining

[Joanne]

Silly Peggy. Presumably she's planned tonight's break in at the Vic by Sean as a way of getting some Insurance money. With her current situation surely she doesn't think she can get away with it?

[JustJodi]

Hmmmmmmmm but what is in it for Sean ??? He wouldn't have done it if he wasn't getting something out of it..
I wonder if PEGGYS insurance is up to date for the Vic.. cos if it isn't all that RUCKUS she staged would have been for nothing:thumbsdow

small off topic question :


OK A QUESTION FOR EVERY ONE WHO USED TO LIVE IN 41 ( WHERE THE MASOODS ARE LIVING NOW )

[LostVoodoo]

OK A QUESTION FOR EVERY ONE WHO USED TO LIVE IN 41 ( WHERE THE MASOODS ARE LIVING NOW )

it's Ruby Allen's house! she, sean, stacey and bradders lived there for a while.
alfie and co lived there before that, i think janine and barry before them, and even earlier Pat and Roy.

[Florijo]

Maybe Sean did it so she would give him a job?? It can't be a cut of the insurance money that would come her way cos she will need all of that to pay off her debts.

I really like the Masoods, especially the dad. They have really fitted in well. Next job for tptb is to make sure they mingle with the crowd and dont become cut off -they're arent enough proper friendships in EE right now. Do Stacey, Bradley, Sean, Denise et al actually have any friends at all?

Peggy and Sean actually have good chemistry. I don't mean in that way but i like their interactions. Peggy is asking for trouble though.

[Joanne]

Did she actually sign the Vic over to Felix? We saw her go to but didn't he say she would have the money by the end of the month which is when she is due another visit from the bailiffs? If she did sign it over then why would she still need to stage the break in?

[JustJodi]

I saw the same thing Joanne,, no idea if she did,, but did u see the bank book she got out of the drawer ??( an odd place for a bank book) it was Bens savings account of 626 pds .. she was supposed to come up with 500 and give it to Felix tomorrow,, I hope she didn't take her grand sons money to pay that con man.( if she indeed signed any thing with him)
Also FloriJo if Peggy and Sean get CAUGHT it is INSURANCE FRAUD,, I am a bit surprised Sean wants to get in trouble after he had been banged up not so long ago ?????????????

[tammyy2j]

Heather was brillant you have to love her character. Mo was hilarious. Max is such a sleeze glad there was some mention of Jack Branning and you could see Max doesn't get on with him.

[Chris_2k11]

This Peggy storyline seems a bit out of nowhere for me, other than that a good episode last night.

[Siobhan]

This Peggy storyline seems a bit out of nowhere for me, other than that a good episode last night.

Not really... I read an piece in a local tv guide, they interviewed Barbara and she thought it was a bit out of nowhere until they told her that she spent money on the cruise, doing up the Vic, the wedding and she then realised if you did all that in "real life" then yes, it would add up to a fortune... This also puts an end to the black hole bank account she seemed to have

[Florijo]

It is good that the Mitchell's Magic Money Tree seems to have finally dried up, alrough Phil isn't aware of any problems yet...

[JustJodi]

Hmmmmmmm looks like perhaps Grant and Phil are going to have to bail momma outta trouble,, I guess if the cousins can't help Ronnie is gonna hafta sneak in a call to Cuz Phil and Cuz Grant..:searchme:

BTW is it just me or has the VIC not changed since the 'MAke over " Lol

[tammyy2j]

BTW is it just me or has the VIC not changed since the 'MAke over " Lol

Yes i haven't seen any changes either except the introduction of the couch

[Chris_2k11]

the curtains, wallpaper and floor are all different. I like the new look now. although i dont think that couch looks right at all, its a pub not a furniture shop.

[JustJodi]

I guess I was not that impressed with this evenings episode,, especially the farce with Peggy and the fake break in..
The Masoods are going to be an interesting family to watch,, the husband is a hoot.. desecting a frog in the kitchen :lol:
I can not believe that big Mo was so calluous about the wedding invitations . If it was me that was getting married,I would just grab my fella and go to city hall than put up with all the tug of war that is going on..
Jase and Dawn,,,,,, hmmmmmm...... I wonder what Jase looks like under all that facial hair,, he does look like he would be a good lookin fella ...
I am curious about Jase's past..Does any one have a clue what it might be ????:searchme:

[Chris_2k11]

Enjoyed the stuff with the Mitchells, good acting from Ronnie when she had a go at Peggy. Dawn/Jase stuff is a bit predictable, i can see them getting together soon. Tanya and Sean scenes were good, you can tell she wants him, its only a matter of time! Masood stuff was ok apart from the bossy mother ordering everyone about, dunno who she thinks she is. my mam's nicknamed her Sergant Major haha

[parkerman]

You have to admit that the Masood Family is about 1000% better than the Ferreira Family!!!:cheer:

[Katy]

I'm loving Jase at the minute i think theres definitly something deeper about his past. I really can't wait to find out what it is. I have to say the Masoods are getting better to, i think i will really like them. I think introducing them slowly has helped.

[Siobhan]

You have to admit that the Masood Family is about 1000% better than the Ferreira Family!!!:cheer:

Parkerman.. I don't think that would be too difficult... a pile of chopped wood would be an improvement on that family

I enjoyed last night.. I liked that Sean gave the money to Ronnie cause he knows Peggy was not stable... Tanya/Sean.. not sure on that one....

[tammyy2j]

So Jase is a single dad on benefits yet he can give Dawn money? :searchme: :searchme:

I'm loving Heather. She is a great character. Well done Ronnie for having a go at Peggy

[Siobhan]

So Jase is a single dad on benefits yet he can give Dawn money? :searchme: :searchme:



he is working too.. he did the video shop for Phil and was working on the house for Masoods.. he is doing bits and pieces so he was helping dawn out

[JustJodi]

You have to admit that the Masood Family is about 1000% better than the Ferreira Family!!!:cheer:

Parkerman.. I don't think that would be too difficult... a pile of chopped wood would be an improvement on that family

I enjoyed last night.. I liked that Sean gave the money to Ronnie cause he knows Peggy was not stable... Tanya/Sean.. not sure on that one....

Sean is one smart cooky...giving the money to Peggy would be a mistake, he knows she has money problems and she would probably go get a facial or something with it,, one good thing was she did not sign the Vic over to that con man ( Felix )
Sean told Tanya all the things she wanted to hear from Max and was tempted cos she was feeling UGLY and UNATTRACTIVE cos of her pregancy. Max is being a doody head just cause his teen lover rejected him. note to Max: HONEY YOU AREN'T ALL THAT :D

[tindie]

Eastender as been great for last 2 weeks
i love The New Family and Heather as been great too
also like Monday ep Garry and Minty talking about Rugby.

[Dutchgirl]

Sean is one smart cooky...giving the money to Peggy would be a mistake, he knows she has money problems and she would probably go get a facial or something with it,, one good thing was she did not sign the Vic over to that con man ( Felix )[/B]
Sean told Tanya all the things she wanted to hear from Max and was tempted cos she was feeling UGLY and UNATTRACTIVE cos of her pregancy. Max is being a doody head just cause his teen lover rejected him. note to Max: HONEY YOU AREN'T ALL THAT :D
I think Max is so horrible to Tanya, he should be comforting her. Who does he think he is? Feeling sorry for Tanya. Bradley's mum is such a dragon. I know she stole Max from her but a pregnant woman should not have to deal whith so much stress.

[*-Rooney-*]

yeah bradleys normally such a sweetie always looking out for everyone, so i cant believe he asked her to come and sort this out surely he should have known what trouble she would bring with her,

although classic quote

rachel: max has always been jealous of his little brother, he only gets his rejects
tanya: oh is that how you met

[parkerman]

So Jase is a single dad on benefits yet he can give Dawn money? :searchme: :searchme:



he is working too.. he did the video shop for Phil and was working on the house for Masoods.. he is doing bits and pieces so he was helping dawn out
Yes, but just how much did he get from the Masoods? How much does one of those buggies cost? Yet, he paid for it, paid Mickey his wages and offered Dawn even more money. Obviously Mr Masood pays a lot more than the minimum wage!

[Katy]

i forgot about Heather she is briliant, i like Garrys mum as well. She is really good.
I can't believe that Tanya is 7 months gone, it really doesnt seem that long on screen.

[Chris_2k11]

although classic quote

rachel: max has always been jealous of his little brother, he only gets his rejects
tanya: oh is that how you metlmao :D must have missed that one!!

[Johnny Allen]

Another good episode tonight, Mas pretending to be his wife to fall Denise was priceless. The Branning/Slater meal had trouble written all over it, love the insults from Rachel and Tanya at each other. Mo's remark about Charlie and kebabs was very funny. And the Jase stuff is shapping up well, looks like this storyline is going to go deep looking forward to it. Im even starting to like Heather now.

[LostVoodoo]

And the Jase stuff is shapping up well, looks like this storyline is going to go deep looking forward to it.
yeah i agree. i'm totally loving Jase's character, there's so much to him and you can see he's trying to do the right thing etc but is coming unstuck, its quite realistic.

[Siobhan]

If I am getting this right... was Jase a football hooligan or something?
Love the bit with Mas pretending to be his wife on the phone to Denise. Sean telling Jean that mobiles go on fire a lot and then Dot asking abbie if that was true :lol:
My daughter was asking me something but I missed what Lauren said to get sent to her room.. can someone fill me in please?

[JustJodi]

I am not really sure what Lauren said that warranted her to be sent to her room, but Max was being really snipey during this episode.. he has his ex wife, wife and teen lover in the same room .. I also missed exactly what she said .. it happened really quick..:searchme:

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

If I am getting this right... was Jase a football hooligan or something?
Love the bit with Mas pretending to be his wife on the phone to Denise. Sean telling Jean that mobiles go on fire a lot and then Dot asking abbie if that was true :lol:
My daughter was asking me something but I missed what Lauren said to get sent to her room.. can someone fill me in please?

Rachel said the wedding will be more like a show and Lauren said more like a pantomine that is why she won't be a bridesmaid, least i think it was Rachel that said that, but that is what Lauren said

[Siobhan]

is that all??? my god, that doesn't warrant been sent to your room.... how snappy is Max??

[JustJodi]

When Max ordered Lauren to her room every one was like:eek: why ??
It was really trivial..Even Dot was like :eek:
Max has a real PROBLEM ( with his little brain )

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I think i would be too if i had someone like Rachel around, she is a bit annoying, well i say a bit more like alot, she just has something horrible to say all the time

[LostVoodoo]

i think the reason Max sent lauren to her room is becuase rachel had made some sort of snipe about Max and Tanya being soft on the kids.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Pretty average episode, i can't even remember what happened except the bit with Stacey's phone, how obvious was it Jean had that :lol: and whats the odds of mother and daughter having the same mobile

[Johnny Allen]

is that all??? my god, that doesn't warrant been sent to your room.... how snappy is Max??


I thought her tone was a little rude, I think it was more a case of how she said it rather than what she said. Mind you Max has always been a little bit tough on her.

[LostVoodoo]

and whats the odds of mother and daughter having the same mobile

well my parents have exactly the same phpne as me, because they're so useless with them and have to have one i know how to use. i can imagine jean slater being the same! although saying that, the model of phone they have is a pretty expensive one!

[Lizzie Brookes]

Why does the Eastenders website keep crashing? It's been like that since yesterday and I've always had to say End Task.

[Florijo]

Phil Hunter has transferred to Walford CID! :D It will take ages to see him as Jack.

[Siobhan]

Phil Hunter has transferred to Walford CID! :D It will take ages to see him as Jack.

lol... I was just talking to Vicky about that... I was expecting to see Sam Nixon come round the corner when he cornered Damien.
Ok.. does anyone know, was Bradley always in contact with Jack? As far as we were told, bradley didn't know his dad when Max came to walford but he is chatting to Jack like he know him all his life?

Nice on Ronnie for the stunt she pulled!!!

[StarsOfCCTV]

:lol: Ronnie's great! Good thinking!

Oh dear...the phone..Sean's face when he read the texts! :eek:

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

So glad Ronnie got Damien to leave, don't like him he is a creep, however i am loving Jack (though i agree it is hard to see him as anyone else other than Phil Hunter, he even dresses the same) but yeah i can't remember the last EE character that i have liked in their first episode but Jack i certainly do

[Lizzie Brookes]

I'm impressed wth Jack but he's not charismatic in the same way as Steven Beale. I agree that Damian was a prat but I still don't think Ronnie had the right to set him up like that though she did not pres charges but instead blackmailed him into leaving without Roxy and giving her the money. Jack's quite smart - he realised what Ronnie did and observed the discrepancy in the blouse. Yes Sean certainly uspects sometyhing's up now and he is quite possessive of Stacey though he has no right to read her text messages - sister or not.

[LostVoodoo]

crikey Roni can be scary at times. i think we learnt a bit more about her tonight, she's normally overshadowed by Roxy.

[Florijo]

Sean is just over protective cos he is making up for lost time. He had no right but then all brothers/fathers are over protective on EE.

[JustJodi]

I think I am gonna like Jack..not only is he a cutie, but he can actually act :-p
About Sean.. he has suspected something was going on between Stacey and SOMEONE for a while now..I think he is just being the protective OLDER BROTHER..and at the same time, he really shouldn't have read all those texts.Too late now he knows something is afoot but he isn't quite SURE WHO.:hmm:

Hmmmmmm did some one say that there would not be an EE episode on Friday,, according to the BBC TV guide they will be on, the SPICE GIRLS are just doing a THING, ..THE big Children in Need event is not for another 2 weeks according to the BBC website.. so we get an hour of EE on Thurs and the normal time on Fri,,

[CrazyLea]

Yeah it's on. And it's on for an hour on Thurs :D.

I really, really, can't stand those Mitchell sisters. They do my head in. I can't decide which one I don't like the most...

I'm enjoying the build up to the wedding :D. And that Jack is hot :p

[StarsOfCCTV]

Uh oh my Dad's not going to be happy if it's an hour on Thursday he's getting back on Friday! :lol:

I agree, Jack is hot! :p :wub: New eye candy :lol:

[tammyy2j]

Jack is hot EE needs some eye candy since Denis died he will definitely fill the void. So Max and Jack don't like each other or get on should be interesting:hmm: :hmm:

[parkerman]

Jack is hot EE needs some eye candy since Denis died he will definitely fill the void.

Speaking as a male, I am not interested in Dennis or Jack as eye candy. As far as I'm concerned there is an enormous difference between Nigel Harman and Scott Maslen and that is that whereas Nigel is only at his best when playing a plank of wood, Scott can actually act.:thumbsup:

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Jack is hot EE needs some eye candy since Denis died he will definitely fill the void.

Speaking as a male, I am not interested in Dennis or Jack as eye candy. As far as I'm concerned there is an enormous difference between Nigel Harman and Scott Maslen and that is that whereas Nigel is only at his best when playing a plank of wood, Scott can actually act.:thumbsup:

While i agree Scott can act i disagree about Nigel not being able to act, i have seen him in theatre and he was very good, i also think he was rather good in Eastenders aswell as the other TV work he has done since leaving EE

[Dutchgirl]

Sean looked evil just now. Can't wait for Thursday. :eek:
Saw a preview on the BBC website.

[Florijo]

Woo Thank you Sean! :D Finally someone has stopped being blind, deaf and stupid and worked it out!

[Joanne]

I am sick to death of Stacey's miserable face. Has a bride to be ever looked so permanently fed up? Any mention of the wedding whether discussing the preperations, trying on wedding dresses, the pre-wedding meal and even the hen party has featured Stacey with a face like a slapped backside. Surely at least one person should have noticed that she doesn't actually look like someone who's looking forward to getting married.

[Florijo]

I am sick to death of Stacey's miserable face. Has a bride to be ever looked so permanently fed up? Any mention of the wedding whether discussing the preperations, trying on wedding dresses, the pre-wedding meal and even the hen party has featured Stacey with a face like a slapped backside. Surely at least one person should have noticed that she doesn't actually look like someone who's looking forward to getting married.

Stacey is a miserable bore! The worst thing they ever did was put her with the Brannings. I was so sick of everyone suddenly becoming blind, stupid and deaf throughout Stax. How Bradley does not notice is beyond me.

[CrazyLea]

I have to disagree with the majority. I love Stacey, and I actually like the "Stax" stuff. Quite good I reckon. But I am glad that it's finally out! I'm really looking forward to the wedding :cheer:.

I do wish Ronnie and Roxy would moveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee far away if possible :D. Or die an "accidental" death. They could hire me as the assasin :cool:

[Chris_2k11]

Thank god someone finally knows about the affair, albeit 10 months too late!!

[Joanne]

I liked Ronnie and Roxy when they first joined - especially Ronnie. Now though I think we've seen too much of them too quickly, I think we need to have a break from them. Ronnie is being portrayed as some sort of superwoman who can fix any situation and it's getting a bit farcical. I really hope we don't see something ridiculous on Friday when she's arranged to have this polka game. I know last night she said they were still £4k short of Peggy's total debt repayment so I'm sure she will win enough to cover that but I've got a horrible feeling she'll win a huge amount - ie enough to buy the club or at least put down a deposit for it.

[Florijo]

I do rate Stacey as a character but her face has been :( for months now. I love her scenes with her brother and mum but not with Max. The fallout should be brilliant though.

[tammyy2j]

I'm glad someone now knows about Stax affair and that is it Sean. :cheer: :cheer:

I'm thinking that Jack will found out also he seems to know about Max's philandering past

Poor Garry give up on Dawn she don't want you.

Does Roxy still like Jas i got that impression for the way she was with Dawn and also Jas? I would prefer Jas with Roxy than Dawn.

I agree i did like the Mitchell sisters at the beginning but we are being overpowered with them now

[Florijo]

I did laugh last night when Mickey said "No wonder Stacey has a smile on her face" LMAO, Stacey smile? :eek:

The stag and hen do was a bit pathetic. Since when where Minty and Garry mates with Bradley? And Honey and Preeti are hardly mates with Stacey either.

[parkerman]

Actually, neither Stacey nor Bradley have any friends of their own age at all.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

I did laugh last night when Mickey said "No wonder Stacey has a smile on her face" LMAO, Stacey smile? :eek:

The stag and hen do was a bit pathetic. Since when where Minty and Garry mates with Bradley? And Honey and Preeti are hardly mates with Stacey either.

Actually can i just say i agree that hen/stag night was pathetic, what happened to the days of drunk antics and strippers (something like Lynn had 6 years ago) Mo usually does well with hen parties buti was rather dissapointed

[JustJodi]

Hummmmmmm... I can hardly imagine Stacey with a smile on her face.. shes been looking rather consipiated as of late.. She does not act like the TO BE married woman.. its like she is being led to the hanging tree..There has not been very much LOVEY DOVEY between Stacey and Bradley since they got back together or engaged,, sorry this whole story line is a wash out and as every one said PATHETIC:wall:
I am very much looking forward to this evenings episode..:cool:

[StarsOfCCTV]

*GASP* :eek: The camera! Nooo! Bet one day they'll all sit down to watch the lovely wedding video and when that pops up!...Uh oh!:ninja:

What is Ronnie thinking taking some of that money that was meant to pay Peggy's debt?! :nono:

Good episode! :thumbsup:

[Pinkbanana]

I was actually qite bored watching the wedding, thought is was personally a bit of a let down....:thumbsdow

[instinct]

Totally crap episode, seriously. I mean it was exciting at times but nothing really hapened, it was like a long episode for Sean finding out. The last half hour I was bored stiff and just when I thought EE was getting good again, doesn't EE know that people want revalations this story has been going on for a year and still nothing.

Also the whole camera thing would have been better if Tanya or Lauren held onto it, because we all know that this is just gonna drag and drag for like another year.

Overall very disappointed, EE going downhill again and are afraid to explore new storylines so they drag the same ones on for a year.

[Debs]

I was actually qite bored watching the wedding, thought is was personally a bit of a let down....:thumbsdow

completely agree, i was expecting for the affair to come out at long last but no.

:rolleyes:

boring episode and a whole hour of it too,

[CrazyLea]

Yeah I'm disappointed too. I was hoping that everyone would find out about it!!!!! Grrrrrr. Better not go on too long! When are Bradley and Stacey back?? I liked the Sean/Tanya stuff though, lol.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Sadly i knew the story wasn't ending today and that it would be full of Sean finding out and be boring as hell but i still sat and watched it and quite frankly i wish i didn't, not even got much to say about it, total yawn fest

[Lizzie Brookes]

I actually liked the hour long wedding - I thought it was just brilliant. That was so nice of Bradley - saying he didn't want to know Stacey's secrets and that he loved her for herself and then saying he didn't deserve her when actually she doesn't deserve him. I'm glad Sean said nothing - would have been pointless anyway. He would only do it to get Tanya and I doubt Tanya would want to be with the man who wrecked her marriage. I couldn't help feeling a little sorry for Max when he said he didn't know what was wrong with him and that a married man with children shouldn't act as he does but Stacey's right - she will always feel for Max but after initial awkwardness he would become a kind of special friend she could confide in - that makes more sense. He is like a father figure. Though he is not messed up the way Steven is he still ought to get help to deal with his own issues - the actor's right, he is an addictive liar and despite genuinely loving his wife, son and the girls jhe kind of needs that danger and passion and standing on a razor edge and he doesn't let anyone close, not even Tanya. Stacey did right in marrying Bradley though. Even Max told her to marry him in the end, and Sean.

[Florijo]

I liked the ep. Felt for Sean and even though I can't stand the man, Max knows he has a problem. I think a fair few Walfordians need the phone number of the mental health clinic Steven is at.

The whole thing was very Sharongate with the tape recording. The Revealed thing afterwards said that the video gets copied on to DVD with the laptop when they get back.