Current Episode Discussion VI

[DaVeyWaVey]

I really enjoyed last night's episode. Hazel is such a brilliant character - i really hope she becomes a permanent addition to the cast! I loved her talk with Minty over Garry's bladder! :D Hazel's scenes with Garry and Minty were my favourite scenes last night.

I really enjoyed the Bert/Jay scenes as well, poor Bert..i'm feeling really sorry for him. The kid who plays Jay, i think is a really good actor though.

[Katy]

I didnt catch it last night, mum and dad wanted university challenge instead.

[Kim]

I was watching an episode from early last year earlier, and noticed that Pauline sprayed Bert in the eye with some form of cleaning product. Bert's condition must come from the pressure building up on the inside of the eye, so maybe they're going to somehow bring in that Pauline had something to do with it.

I can't believe they've got rid of Hazel - she's been better in a week that a lot of the other characters have in a year.

[Jojo]

I was watching an episode from early last year earlier, and noticed that Pauline sprayed Bert in the eye with some form of cleaning product. Bert's condition must come from the pressure building up on the inside of the eye, so maybe they're going to somehow bring in that Pauline had something to do with it.

I can't believe they've got rid of Hazel - she's been better in a week that a lot of the other characters have in a year.

I don't think getting cleaning product in your eye causes glaucoma somehow Kim - its a medical condition:


What is glaucoma?

Glaucoma is a range of conditions in which the pressure inside the eye becomes too high. It is important that the doctor checks the back of the eye for evidence of any damage.
Glaucoma is not one disorder but a range of conditions in which the pressure inside the eye becomes too high. This results in damage to the optic nerve at the back of the eye which can lead to loss of vision if left untreated. Glaucoma is one of the most common causes of blindness worldwide.

How does glaucoma develop?

There is a constant flow of fluid through the eye. The flow into and out of the eye is carefully monitored in order to ensure that the eye maintains its round shape and does not become too hard or too soft.

This fluid is called the aqueous humour. It is secreted into the eye from an area behind the iris (the coloured part of the eye) and flows around through the pupil and drains out of the eye through several microscopic channels.

Glaucoma usually develops when this flow of fluid becomes obstructed and there is a build-up of pressure within the eye.

There are two main sub-groups of glaucoma:

* primary open angle glaucoma (formerly known as chronic simple glaucoma) is a slowly progressive condition which occurs when the tiny microscopic drainage channels gradually become blocked.

* primary angle closure glaucoma (also known as closed angle or acute glaucoma) occurs much more rapidly when the flow of fluid inside the eye cannot pass through the pupil, causing a rapid rise in pressure inside the eye.

There are other types of glaucoma which are much rarer and can be caused by a variety of reasons:

* inflammation inside the eye (uveitis or iritis).

* the growth of new vessels inside the eye, which may occur in connection with diabetes or after blood vessel blockage at the back of the eye.

* treatment with certain medicines (eg corticosteroids).

* following an eye injury.

* other rare abnormalities affecting the structure of the eye.

I know sometimes the EE research isn't at its best, but I can't see even them blaming Pauline Fowler for Berts medical condition

[Richie_lecturer]

Funny how Bert's eye was dark red at the start, almost back to normal at the station, but back to dark red by the time he went to the Vic. :hmm:

As for the rest:

More Wicks/Deano. :thumbsdow

More Dolly/Gary/Minty. :thumbsdow

Pretty awful.

[callummc]

seems like i havn't missed much ritchie,keep forgetting to watch and meanig to give enders a spin to see if its improved any but thought i'd wait till sunday but then the footie takes over the reason i stopped watching in the first place about 2 months ago was the wicks ,foxes,boring bert, shirly,berts annoying grandson to name a few and they kept hogging the screen seems they still are,just wondered if its worth watching 2 hours of rubbish for 10 minutes entertainment,also it really annoys me when strangers turn up and someone just takes them in,someone else gives em a job and everyone stops and chats to them all in their first week

[JustJodi]

So that was it..... Gary's mom is gone, gee I thought it might have lasted longer, I mean the Wicks brought in SHIRLEY,, why can't Garry keep his mom around a bit longer, should liven up Walford on Karaokee nights , with Garys mom doing her Dolly Parton impersonations :hmm: :lol:

I am still awaiting for the gripping and edge of the seat episodes we have been promised....:searchme:

[DaVeyWaVey]

I thought it was a brilliant episode tonight. I loved the chat between Kevin, Phil and Max. It was really great viewing and what i loved was that some topical issues were raised as the smoking ban coming into force was mentioned, as was the issue of puberty. There was also some light hearted stuff in there with that joke that Phil told at the beginning of the episode. I loved the fact that this was juxtaposed to the Stella/Ben stuff which i found very disturbing.

This abuse storyline is being handled brilliantly. I found it quite uncomfortable to watch actually as Stella was planting negative thoughts in Ben's mind and the pinching game was just horrible. We also saw marks on Ben's arm which showed that Stella has already physically abused Ben, but us viewers haven't been aware of it, and this is how the disturbing atmosphere was brought across a lot more for me.

I also loved the use of pathetic fallacy (yep learnt it in GCSE Drama) where the weather was used to reflect happenings in scenes, so in this episode, it was the thunder with the scenes between Stella and Ben which added a lot more to the scarier atmosphere.

I didn't like Max's speech though about "rowdy teenage boys"...he's getting it on with Stacey Slater for goodness sake!

Overall a brilliant episode though, really enjoyed it. :)

[Lizzie Brookes]

I thought it was brilliant as well - all of it. The stuff with Phil, Max and Kevin, the Stella/Ben stuff and the thunderstorm as you so rightly said bing pathetic fallacy. The problem is that Ben lied about Stella hitting him before so nobody willbelieve him now. Its strange but at first Ben was horrible to Stella when she made an effort with him - turning the stove up for example and pretending it was her and she did nothing in those days. Now Ben is the one trying to be ice and Stella is the ne turning psycho. I wonder if Stella would have done that if Ben hadn't treated her badly to begin with.

Kevin's guess was a good one but though that isn't the explanation I doubt Ben has begun puberty as he is only 11. I wonder why he covered himself up then when Phil came in and why he is distancing from Phil. I can't wait to see what happens tomorrow. It's silly for Max to be so uptight over them just holding hands - it wasn't even as though they were kissing - not that that mtters of course. Anyway what a hypocrite - look at him and Stacey.

[Joanne]

I think Ben covered himself up when Phil came in because he didn't want him to see his bruises. We know about the ones on his arm now and how he got them, but he could have others elsewhere that we aren't aware of yet.

How did Jimbo die? I remember Kevin talking about it a while back but I don't recall any of the details.

[parkerman]

While I wouldn't go so far as to say last night's episode was brilliant, I think it was the best for a long time with some real issues being discussed and the cut away bits to Stella and Ben were good too.

If they can keep going they might get back to the good old days. Sadly however we will soon be back to Max and Stacey, Dot and the baby, Garry and Minty, "the loveable clowns", etc. etc. and it'll all have been just a one-off.

[Karen W]

That was one of the great episodes. It worked on so many levels. OK the thunderstorm was a bit melodramatic, but it did add to the atmosphere.

After a day when everyone was complaining about Phil Daniel's acting I felt he put in probably his best performance since joining the soap. Such a wise, experienced Dad, dishing out great advice - and getting it so wrong. If only he had understood what the problem really was. Then we had Max with his double standards being completely misinterpreted. It was also good to hear Phil try to explain things from his point of view. So many crossed wires - the dramatic irony was in overdrive.

Meanwhile upstairs Stella was quite simply terrifying. Ben's bruises were shocking and I'm glad they didn't go so far as to show Stella actually hurting Ben - it's enough to know that she is.
I noticed that after the program they posted a link to a help line. This bullying story is at such a pitch now that I feel the BBC need to do more to explain why they are doing this story. I know on the website they have interviews and explanations but the vast majority of viewers won't see that. They could do more to encourage youngsters to speak out if they find themselves in this kind of situation.

Small point. After closing time Phil and Max were paying Phil for their drinks. Isn't that a bit illegal or have the regulations relaxed now?

[parkerman]

Small point. After closing time Phil and Max were paying Phil for their drinks. Isn't that a bit illegal or have the regulations relaxed now?

Phil involved in something illegal? I can't believe it!:lol:

[alan45]

Small point. After closing time Phil and Max were paying Phil for their drinks. Isn't that a bit illegal or have the regulations relaxed now?

Phil involved in something illegal? I can't believe it!:lol:After getting off with Murder, Possession of Firearms and escape from lawful custody Im sure a little breach of the licencing laws would hardly bother Beetroot Man. After all he has the Met and the CPS in his back pocket not to mention he hires the best lawyers in London
:rolleyes:

[Abbie]

Okay so Ive missed a few episodes, well quite a few as I keep only watching little bits, so whats going on with the Stella/Ben storyline?

[Lizzie Brookes]

Ben started distancing from Phil and when phil went into his bedoom started covering himself up - probably because Stella was ill treating him. Phil talked over his worries with Kevin and Max - saying Ben is fine with Stella and peggy but not with him. Though sceptical when Kevin pointed out puberrty might be the reason he talked to Ben. When Ben started to try to tellhim what was happening Phil completely confused him by sying he knew and that it happens to all men and its normal and natural and would tell Ben more when Ben started to like girls.

[Richie_lecturer]

Thursday's wasn't too bad, with some down to earth scenes in the Vic. Friday however was back to 'gauging eyes out' viewing. I thought the Phil/Ben misunderstanding was stupid, but nothing compared to the awful acting of Carly and Deano, and Kevin. Add some 'helpful' advice from Sir Gus of Camelot (not about sausage poetry for a change) and Mickey Miller and it's like a plague of bubonic blisters.

[alan45]

and it's like a plague of bubonic blisters.
But a lot less fun:wall: :) :D

[Pinkbanana]

Thursday's wasn't too bad, with some down to earth scenes in the Vic. Friday however was back to 'gauging eyes out' viewing. I thought the Phil/Ben misunderstanding was stupid, but nothing compared to the awful acting of Carly and Deano, and Kevin. Add some 'helpful' advice from Sir Gus of Camelot (not about sausage poetry for a change) and Mickey Miller and it's like a plague of bubonic blisters.

I agree 100% about the acting of Carly and Deanooooooo - so OTT. Though I've never warmed to their characters much either...

Deanooo = annoying prat

Carly = whinging & annoying

[DaVeyWaVey]

I actually like Deano's acting especially the scene where he told Libby imagine Chelsea dead. I can't stand Carly though and her mood swings! Does she really have to shout all the time?! I wish the writers made her character a bit more fun loving.

[Dutchgirl]

So what did Stella say or do to Ben?
My little girl cried so I didn't understand and couldn't see because the sun was to bright. (Saw the omnibus):hmm:

[DaVeyWaVey]

Brilliant episode. Loved everything about it, with Pat and Shirley's fight being the best moment of the episode. Shirley had a classic line with "How did he die? Did you get on top and crush him?" referring to Pat's late husband Roy. Classic line and it had me laughing! It was unrealistic with the police turning up straight away though, and it did let it down a bit, but Shirley and Pat trading insults and having that fight definetly lived up to expectations! Brilliant!

The stag/hen parties were good to watch. It was great to see people enjoying themselves, and Denise was on top form when she made her drunken speech. I'm also glad Deano forgave and forgot, and joined in his dad's stag party, wanting him to be happy.

The Stella stuff was good, this storyline is progressing really well. Dot and baby George stuff was ok.

The Li stuff was boring and brought the episode down for me.

And i loved the ending, it really had that shock horror "dum dum dum" theme back in it when Shirley said "I slept with him. Just. Last. Month" Fantastic episode!

[Kim]

Was it just me, or did the police woman who told Pat and Shirley to keep it down sound remarkably like Denise? I thought the bit where Stella was manipulating Ben with the scores and guessing how many it was out of was really well written. I thought the hen night scenes wouldn't be that good with the timing of it during the episode, but I thought they were great.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I thought tonght's episode was really good and I love Denise's hair - I hope she lets it down more often.

I thought he had the one night stan with Shirley when he left Denise. I mean he walked out on her and they were not together at the time and then got back togther lter so does it count as cheating?

Loved the Stella/Ben stuff. I wonder what Phil would do if he found out. I mean if it is a man he normallly hits the man but because its a woman he can't do that.

[Kim]

I suppose it does. Kevin probably expected Denise to be more forgiving than she initially was, knowing about Jimbo and then with all the Carly/Deano stuff coming out. They never actually said in words that the relationship had ended.

[parkerman]

Yes, it was good to see that the Eastenders scriptwriters haven't lost their touch after all...that police van turning up straight away was just brilliant - so realistic. :wall:

[JustJodi]

I was sooooooo bored with the whole episode..I am actually looking forward seeing Stacey back on our screen and messing around with old wrinkly chest Max.
Growing reefer in Gus' pantry ??? Lemme think:hmm: :hmm: didn't Martin try the similar thing in Arthurs allotment shed ??????? I am suprised Mickey didn't tell GUS,, actually it is Gus' apartment he could have broke the lock himself and threw Li and Mickey out on the streets !!!!!!!! Li comes up with the biggest SOB :crying: :crying: stories and Mickey thinking with his lil head swallows the stories....:wall:

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Yes, it was good to see that the Eastenders scriptwriters haven't lost their touch after all...that police van turning up straight away was just brilliant - so realistic. :wall:


:cheer: Well said, i mean i know police can put their lights on if they are in a rush but getting there that quickly is not realistic at all they would have had to know that they was going to fight to have been there that quick, and where were they taking them, to a police station in Australia? they took longer getting back than they did arriving to the Vic :rolleyes:

[Kim]

Yeah. They can't very well say that they were on patrol in the area and that they put their lights on when they saw the fight, because there was no traffic, and there's been plenty of crime in the area, and they haven't established patrol before.

Yeah Jodi, Martin did try that in the allotment. Derek ended up in trouble for it and lost his job.

[Siobhan]

:rotfl::rotfl: how funny was Mickey last night at the interview and then the woman coming on to him.. I thought that was brilliant

Love the Pat and Shirley stuff.. both fab actors and they work very very well together..

[parkerman]

I know I'm going to be told it's only a soap but...

1. Mickey's interview. How come it was arranged so quickly? I don't think big organisations work quite in that way! Also, the HR Manager said she had carried out over 6000 job interviews. If she'd been HR Manager say for 12 years that works out to two per day. Doesn't she do anything else? And, again, if she has so many interviews to carry out, how come Mickey was fitted in within hours?

2. What father - even Phil - what not take his son on holiday just because of an incident at school? I find that just totally unrealistic. Also, how did Stella know he would react like that and for the offence of writing on the walls would the school really call the parents in???

I'm sorry but I do find these sort of things irritating and I know we have to suspend belief to some extent because it's a soap but I have to say I never find this sort of thing happening in Coronation Street.

[Bryan]

I must admit I enjoyed this weeks episodes.

Pat and Shirley are two of Eastenders best characters, and are the closest thing to oldshcool Eastenders. Pat St Clement and Linda Henry have done great with this roles recently and really made the show for me this week. The bitch fight has to be a classic Eastenders moment, best scene easily by far this year.

I dont care what some of you think about Kevin, I like him, him and Denise make a great couple. Diane Parish is great in the role, and the scenes in the toilet on Friday were well acted and well written by the writers. A few episodes that actually entertained me and gave me hope that Eastenders isn't a total waste of time.

I am one of few who like the May/Rob/Dawn storyline, and also Stella abusing Ben, so these are two great storylines to look forward to in the coming months, along with Stax and Tanya.

No way is Eastenders out of the **** yet, but I can see hints of an improvment on the way...

[Siobhan]

just want to add to what Bry said.. the bit just before Denise gets married and Kevin comes in the door barely able to walk cracked me up :rotfl::rotfl: it was a fantastic week made good by the actors involved in the main storylines

[Lizzie Brookes]

I am so glad Denise and Kevin married. Denise is so right. They are definitely soulmates.

[Katy]

This week has been really good on Eastenders. I love Shirley i think she has been a great addition to the cast. I also love Denise Kevin and Pat (legendary character). Great week of episodes.

[Kim]

Typical Stacey, telling Max she is off for a night clubbing, then going to her mum's.

Liking the build up of the George/Thomas stuff - poor Honey's going to feel terrible and she doesn't really know why Dot's getting so stressed, and especially in her condition.

I really liked May's sister - she's far better in my eyes than May was when she started. She annoyed me by telling her sister she's pregnant, she could have said she had a miscarriage. Eventually she'd have to explain where Rob is and why there's no baby - it's not like they haven't split up over a miscarriage before.

Looking forward to knowing where they go with her in the storyline.

[tammyy2j]

Typical Stacey, telling Max she is off for a night clubbing, then going to her mum's.

Liking the build up of the George/Thomas stuff - poor Honey's going to feel terrible and she doesn't really know why Dot's getting so stressed, and especially in her condition.

I really liked May's sister - she's far better in my eyes than May was when she started. She annoyed me by telling her sister she's pregnant, she could have said she had a miscarriage. Eventually she'd have to explain where Rob is and why there's no baby - it's not like they haven't split up over a miscarriage before.

Looking forward to knowing where they go with her in the storyline.

May/Rob storyline is dragging on for far too long. Who plays May's sister?

[Kim]

I quite agree. The only bit good about it is the revenge that May could get, not her droning on all the time. I've even forgotten her name - Dawn and Rob have to be in the scene for me to pay a lot of attention, lol.

LMAO :rotfl: That was so exaggerated tonight. I can't figure out why Phil didn't get his car taken, seeing as Rob did, and they were parked in near enough the same position. I can't believe it actually got the height to break the window, and surely it shouldn't be able to get a hole that big?

That's going straight on DVD on Sunday.

[slater girl]

I love the scenes with bradders and stacey, they are so cute, as they were acting childish even around the play station and having a laugh as they was deciding who should play next, it was a funny episode tonight and a poor sick bradley.

Bradders and stace are like big kids around each other over the playstation as bradders has a playstation at home and they were both having a laugh together and even stacey was enjoying herself. Also stace was lecturing bradders over what he was eating and why he was sick. They were cute together and belong together most defintely as a couple.

Also stace did not look too happy when she saw preeti with bradley at the end, looked like stacey was jealous of her around bradley.

I hope that bradders and stace end up together down the line as a couple again after the stax fallout together again way down the line as bradders brings out stace nice side and stace only shows that side to him and not to may other people in the square.

Also the builders were annoying and beale was funny and mad may really

[Chris_2k11]

How brilliant was the argument between May & Dawn, some great acting from May!

[DaVeyWaVey]

A pretty good episode tonight. I really enjoyed it, with my favourite moment being the Dawn and May confrontation at the end. The rivalry between the pair is a brilliant watch, and it was such a great climax up to Dawn's fall down the steps. May really is mad, we could see from her argument with Dawn that she's completely dellusional about Rob going back to her once Dawn's baby is born. It's great to see that Rob and Dawn are determined to be together, they obviously love each other dearly, as they're staying together despite May's efforts to split them up. It's gripping viewing to watch May slowly crack, as she reaches extreme lengths to try and split Dawn and Rob up.

I also enjoyed the scenes with Ian tonight, it provided such light hearted comedy and there were such funny scenes between him and the builders, the scenes cracked me up where he threatened to report them to the local council. This light hearted comedy was nice and i loved the scene at the beginning when Phil was reading out Ian's letter...Phil was right "it was a load of rubbish" :lol:

The Deano/Shirley scenes were ok as were the Squiggle scenes with Carly. I like the scenes between Carly and Squiggle, it looks like a good friendship could form between the pair.

I liked the scenes with Bradley too. Stacey going over to look after Bradley whilst he was ill sows the seed for the pair to get closer again, and there was a clear uncomfortable atmosphere with the scene when Preeti arrived and all three of them were in the living room. A great scene there!

8/10.

[Kim]

I'm surprised Ian has any customers left, throwing Garry out like that. That's so the other year - he did that to Big Mo. Found it strange that they didn't try to smash up Ian's camera, and give him something to really moan about.

There will be no paper left in that house, what with Ian either writing, or insisting upon the writing of many notes these days, lol.

Likewise with Ian's note to Phil. I'm surprised Phil took it so lightly and didn't try to make a prat out of him even more after the scene in the cafe on Friday.

I thought the bit with Dawn by the door was so exaggerated - it was as if she was waiting for May to come, and not putting everything into getting out of the door.

[CrazyLea]

Hmm I was annoyed at the amount of times the writers made Ian look like a fool tonight. Enough already! It's not even funny, if it's supposed to be.

[Lizzie Brookes]

loved the May/Dawn stff, it is just as good as the Ben/Stella stuff.

[Siobhan]

Hmm I was annoyed at the amount of times the writers made Ian look like a fool tonight. Enough already! It's not even funny, if it's supposed to be.

I quiet liked it.. we all know someone like that who will report anything and think they are above everyone else cause they have a nicer house/car/job etc... and yes you really do want them to fall flat on their face and be made a prat off.. I think Adam plays Ian to a tee... I love watching him..

[Chris_2k11]

Tonight's episode was very good. I am starting to like May more and more and I think the actress is great. The Ian and Phil scenes were a good laugh too "Oi Popeye, where's the spinach?!" :lol: haha

[Siobhan]

May is brilliant.. she has completely lost the plot!! Ian and Phil I found quiet funny but poor Ian always comes out the worse.. you think he would learn to leave it

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

The stuff with Ian and Phil was fantastic. I dont like May shes up to something and she is so manipulative

[parkerman]

Hmm I was annoyed at the amount of times the writers made Ian look like a fool tonight. Enough already! It's not even funny, if it's supposed to be.
I agree with you, CrazyLea...there's not many of us around! Ian would not have got to be such an astute businessman if he was such a fool. I thought some of last night's action with Phil and Ian was just plain silly.

[jessi]

Lately I think the May/Dawn/Rob storyline has been great.

May is so scary!!!

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Well I saw the highlights on the EE site as I missed Mon & Tuesday and didn't really make efforts with the repeats..

From Dawn's fall I am actually very suprised the baby wasn't hurt?! She has got quite a big belly.. I'm suprised she wasn't BADLY injured as the fall made it out to be!

Can anyone suggest why Dawn didn't tell Rob that it was May's fault and they had an argument.. and it was only a accident (got this from the site). + how evil was the counting down on the calender.. Scary stuff.. :eek:

[Johnny Allen]

As someone who was really disliking the whole Dawn/May/Rob saga Im starting to really enjoy it now its reaching its peak, May is crackers and the more shes pushed the more interesting she is to watch on screen. Its also good to see other sides of Rob, I think this storyline has finally gotten good.

Typical Phil and Ian moments yet again, building up to next week, and that Lucy, shes devious.

Im not sure what Max is playing at, but when Tanya finds out its Stacey hes been seeing its gonna be handbags at the dawn.

[Kim]

He doesn't want a long term relationship with her, because that takes all of the excitement out of it for him, as originally, he was cheating on Rachel with Tanya. She'll dump him if he doesn't commit, so he was acting as if he was more keen than her to sign the contract, so that she believes he's serious about leaving Tanya. He doesn't want to do that, so he tore it up to leave himself with no ties.

The other week I said I didn't like Ian at all, but I'm really enjoying the Ian/Phil stuff. Much better than Ian begging for money as he did the other week. £10,000? I think Phil's exaggerating or something; wasn't the quote the other day, like, £1,000? Surely it couldn't go up £9,000 for some inspection and costs for being closed.

I can't believe May even attempted to try to tell Rob that the calendar hadn't been taken down. Even if he didn't see the May 10th box, it was a bit obvious, because she was begging him not to go in there.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Boring episode but i liked bits of it though. Anyone else think it was sad when Max was telling Tanya what Jim did to him? It kinda puts Jim in a whole new light now and its not a very nice light either, i can see why Max doesn't think much of him.

I think it was way to much of the Max/Tanya Bradley/Stacey stuff tonight, thats why it was boring but it was good stuff i thought tonight.

[Jessie Wallace]

Loved it tonight, didn't feel the need to get up and wander around the house naked once!!
I thought that Tanya and Bradley were the making of it tonight.

[Johnny Allen]

Loved it tonight, didn't feel the need to get up and wander around the house naked once!!
I thought that Tanya and Bradley were the making of it tonight.

so did I brilliant acting from the two of them tonight.

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

I actually would have shed a tear or two when Max shared his story but I didn't because I was quite disgusted/angry with all the cheating and lies going on with himself, Stacey and Tanya!

[JustJodi]

Loved it tonight, didn't feel the need to get up and wander around the house naked once!!
I thought that Tanya and Bradley were the making of it tonight.


I agree with you Dawnie,, those two did really well,, Tanya really can act.. Max actually can cry on cue,,, I am impressed :rotfl:

[JustJodi]

Hmmmmmmm Max is a typical manipulative cheater, like Tanya said he picked a fight so he could get out of the house to his SNUGGLE BUNNY..
I was starting to admire Tanya and her candor, then I lost the admiration when she fell for Max's b/s once again..
I honestly do not know weither or not to believe that BOMB that Max dropped about Jim and his buddies burying him alive in a coffin,,
Regardless of what others think I just found it rubbish...:wall:

[parkerman]

Loved it tonight, didn't feel the need to get up and wander around the house naked once!!



Where do you live, Jess? Next time there's a boring episode I might be round! :lol:

[alan45]

Loved it tonight, didn't feel the need to get up and wander around the house naked once!!
I thought that Tanya and Bradley were the making of it tonight.Damn those EE scriptwriters for coming up with a non boring episode:p

[Jessie Wallace]

Me thinks you two need to go have cold showers. I can asure you a naked me, is not a pretty site!! Let's hope they try and more nice little epi's

[Richie_lecturer]

Loved it tonight, didn't feel the need to get up and wander around the house naked once!!



Where do you live, Jess? Next time there's a boring episode I might be round! :lol:

You'll be disappointed. She's been wearing the same clothes for months! :)

I saw a bit of Thursday's: Ian's head submerged in water, again. :thumbsdow
EE Misunderstanding no. 154,425 with Tanya's wrong conclusions, along with the cliche of walking towards Chav Slater at the moment of suspicion. :rolleyes:

Snap, crackle, pop...flop.

[alan45]

Me thinks you two need to go have cold showers. I can asure you a naked me, is not a pretty site!! Let's hope they try and more nice little epi'sCan a poor man not still have some fantasies. I dont know how good looking you are but dreams cost nowt:wub:

[parkerman]

Me thinks you two need to go have cold showers. I can asure you a naked me, is not a pretty site!! Let's hope they try and more nice little epi's


You mean you're NOT the real Jessie Wallace?

By the way, did anyone she her last Wednesday as Marie Lloyd? I thought she was brilliant....but then I always thought she was...:wub:

P.S. Getting back to the subject of Eastenders Current Episode....Can someone tell me what the Polish builders are actually doing. What are they building?

[Lizzie Brookes]

I think Max told the truth about the coffin buisiness because he did hint at it to Jim and Jim did not contradict it. Its not entirely unbelievable that Jim used to be a racist long ago and has now changed. After all Mark used to hang out wuith Nick and then he changed. I was a bit sorry for him when he talked about the coffinand yes I think it is Tanya and the girls he loves not Stacey despite his manipulation.

I was watching the omnibus anbd was confused by two points.

1. Why is May taking pills? When I saw her reach for the pills the first time I assumed she was going to have an overdose but she didn't.

2. Max gave Tanya the yellow negilgee or whatever it is and then almost at the same moment Bradley took it from Stcey's pocket. Did he then buy a pair?

I am very sorry for May and I think both May and stella are superb actresses - Rob is right, she really is insane.

[Chris_2k11]

P.S. Getting back to the subject of Eastenders Current Episode....Can someone tell me what the Polish builders are actually doing. What are they building?lmao good point :cool:

[no1abbafan]

If anybody can remember when Carol Jackson married that chap, his name escapes me but he Billy father, Jim was at that wedding, her sister was to get married but either she or the groom did a runner and carol ended up marrying her fella instead. Jim was a complete racist then. What was her husband's name :confused: :confused:

[Chris_2k11]

Was that alan? :searchme:

[parkerman]

Yes, it was Alan. And when Jim first came in to Eastenders he was portrayed as a racist, so Max's story is not out of character for Jim at the time.

[DaVeyWaVey]

Just watched Friday's episode - loved it! Loved the scenes with Tanya and Max, and i thought Max telling his secret to Tanya was really good acting. Definetly a 10/10 for Friday's episode, probably one of the best episodes this year.

[Richie_lecturer]

P.S. Getting back to the subject of Eastenders Current Episode....Can someone tell me what the Polish builders are actually doing. What are they building?

They are building a store for Polish delicacies, like tripe, in respect of some of EE's recent storylines.

[Richie_lecturer]

Was that alan? :searchme:

It was indeed. A great character, and now posting on this forum. :)

[Siobhan]

Loved it tonight, didn't feel the need to get up and wander around the house naked once!!
I thought that Tanya and Bradley were the making of it tonight.Damn those EE scriptwriters for coming up with a non boring episode:p

did I read this wrong.. You liked it??? :eek::eek::eek:

[Abbie]

Noooooo i missed fridays!!!!!!!! :(

[no1abbafan]

You're right it was Alan, I couldn't remember his name. Which house are the builders renovating?? Agree they are being protrayed in an un-realistic light.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

What on earth happened to lastnights episode, friday's one was actually good but lastnight went back to being boring again. Infact so boring i can hardly remember what happened.

Im slightly sick of the Mitchell/Beale feud thing. Honey and Billy have nothing to do with it so i think Ian is right out of order starting on them.

Jane on the other hand starting on Stella was the best thing i have seen in ages :cheer:

[Siobhan]

I don't know.. it was alright.. I am sure the whole Beale/Mitchell feud is leading somewhere. I feel sorry for Libby.. what is she getting herself into. I have a feeling that Einstein is Darren.. maybe way of the mark there

Stupid Mickey and Li.. wish they would go away!! Did you see Dawn's face when she saw May's blackeye??? she was beginning to suspect that Rob did do it

[JustJodi]

First off I HATE Li lol I want her to get caught at something,, I thought Mickey was funny last night in the shop..Why doesn't Li sell herself rather than pimping poor Michael of Walford LOL
I loved the part where all of them were in the laundromat and squabbling and Dot spouting bible verses trying to keep the peace,, :angel:
Hmmmmmmm dunno about every one else, but I can see that Mae did the eye thing herself. :hmm:
The 2 triangles,,, Max, Tanya and Stacey,,, I am bored with them,,, Rob ,Dawn and May,,, they make me very tired,, when are these story lines gonna stop :searchme:
AS for Libby, I am afraid that it will not be Darren, cos he does not have a computer..( unless he has one that was stolen from Billy's video store ) I think it is gonna end really bad for Libby and her lil heart is gonna be broken, and Yolande is gonna be there to comfort her..
Sighhhhhhhhh what a mess ...:rolleyes:

[DaVeyWaVey]

I enjoyed last night's episode, it may not have been good as Friday's episode but i still found it really enjoyable. I've grown to really like the Dawn/Rob/May storyline now, and i think it's all down to the character of May. She is a fantastic character and has turned into one of my favourite characters in the show, she is so devious and i'm really enjoying her in this storyline, i can't wait to see what she does next.

The Beale/Mitchell feud stuff was ok. I liked the Squiggle stuff last night, and i liked the way Yolande is trying to look out for her.

The Mickey/Li stuff was boring in my opinion...

7/10

[Lizzie Brookes]

I loved the scenes with May and Stella too was excellent. Libby/Darren and Yolande stuff also cool and it was so funny Mickeys antics in the shop. Can't wait for tonight.

[Debs]

. I have a feeling that Einstein is Darren.. maybe way of the mark there



I thought exactly the same, as soon as they cut to whoever replying to her i thought that is darren!

[Lizzie Brookes]

Well we'll find out tonight won't we?

[Timalay]

Oh no the Beales and Michells getting on together. The worlds going to explode.:rotfl:

[slater girl]

Did you see the episode tonight, stacey was talking to mo about getting away and she wanted the same as dawn to better herself with a rich man who could give her the life she wants.

Loved the chat with Mo and Bradley and bradley asking mo about community service and mo saying tat and bradley not knowing what is is and it was grafitti and Mo talking to bradley asking if stacey was planning on leaving walford.

A little section with max and stacey, i be glad when this affair is over and out in the open and tanya and max deciding whether to tell abi or lauren about tanya having a baby as i wonder if lauren overheard it.

Also Rob catching may taking pills and why may will not let go of the grug against him and dawn was good.

Also the Beale and Mitchell fight was good in the brannings, loved the episode great buildup to the car crash.

[Richie_lecturer]

I used to live in the Billericay area once. Hello!


Oh no the Beales and Michells getting on together. The worlds going to explode.:rotfl:

Philip looks more likely to explode every week. Anyone for boiled beetroot?

[Chris_2k11]

I saw half of tonight's episode but then the tv went funny so I missed the second half!

[Lizzie Brookes]

I liked yesterday's episode, especialy the Rob/May stuff.

[Siobhan]

. I have a feeling that Einstein is Darren.. maybe way of the mark there



I thought exactly the same, as soon as they cut to whoever replying to her i thought that is darren!


hehe I was right for once.. I am usually wrong on stuff like this and now ian and phil are getting on.. maybe the world is coming to an end...

[parkerman]

I thought the best thing about last night's episode was Honey stuffing herself while everyone else was arguing and asking Jim if she could have another biscuit...:rotfl:

[Siobhan]

I thought the best thing about last night's episode was Honey stufing herself while everyone else was arguing and asking Jim if she could have another biscuit...:rotfl:

Actually that was brilliant.. it was like she only went for the food.. she didn't care about the feud!! I love when Stella said the girls should do something and Honey said "not camping"... Jane still looked annoyed leaving the house

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Loved lastnights episode some of the camping stuff was funny. Could be an interesting episode tonight as me and a friend noticed something that could lead to me officially claiming Eastenders writters are stupid.

What on earth did little Bobby look like :rotfl: but then i suppose with a dad like Ian we really cant expect alot can we :lol:

Fab episode i would give it 10/10 for the pure entertainment of it :cheer:

[Siobhan]

Is bobby played by a little girl.. if not he is going to be embarrassed for life :rotfl::rotfl:

For pure entertainment, it was brilliant.. Ian shrinking his tent, Phil setting his one alight!!

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Is bobby played by a little girl.. if not he is going to be embarrassed for life :rotfl::rotfl:

For pure entertainment, it was brilliant.. Ian shrinking his tent, Phil setting his one alight!!

Yeah not exactly the most successful camping trip ever :lol: but great entertainment

[Dutchgirl]

Good ending yesterday, my heart jumped the BMW crashed how dreadfull.

[Siobhan]

Good ending yesterday, my heart jumped the BMW crashed how dreadfull.

yeah I was glued to tv.. I was like "NOOOOO!! can't end it there" can't wait for tonight

[CrazyLea]

I actually really enjoyed tonights episode. Was rather good and tense I thought. Peter was good, aww bless.. does he die??

[JustJodi]

Interesting episode,, I really am a bit shocked with this evenings episode,, it had some real good parts and some zzzzzzzzzzzzz parts,,I can see now how EE has spent so much money on the stunt,, but it was a tad bit unrealistic, cos it flipped over too many times..and PHIL was with out a scratch....and Billy should have been tumbled into the front seat, cos he didnt have his seat belt on,,
Darren and Libby... okkkkkkkkkk sorted...Yolande's work is done,,, May is sooooo UNGLUED... she can't even WORK....:wall:
Stacey and Bradley<<not sure how those two are ever going to get back together with so much water passed under the bridge>>:searchme:
Next week should be verrrrrrrry interesting....:hmm: :hmm:

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Can i just ask people if they thought that lastnight the car landed on its roof?

[JustJodi]

Vicks you are right,, I asked my partner, he said he was confused too when he saw the land rover upright, he said how did they get that way,, they were spinning on the roof last night..............as I stated in my previous post it was a bit UNREALISTIC,, the crash...:searchme:

[alan45]

Loved it tonight, didn't feel the need to get up and wander around the house naked once!!
I thought that Tanya and Bradley were the making of it tonight.Damn those EE scriptwriters for coming up with a non boring episode:p

did I read this wrong.. You liked it??? :eek::eek::eek:NO
It was the vision of Dawn walking around the house a la birthday suit

[alan45]

Vicks you are right,, I asked my partner, he said he was confused too when he saw the land rover upright, he said how did they get that way,, they were spinning on the roof last night..............as I stated in my previous post it was a bit UNREALISTIC,, the crash...:searchme: The roll into the river was unrealistic. The Land rover was an automatic. The gearstick was in Park Mode. It is impossible to knock this off unless the engine is switched on. Funny too that the wheels turned during its drive toward the river as it moved yet remained straight whilst they lined it up for the river. The people who designed the Cardboard funfair stunt must have did thisa one too:thumbsdow

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Vicks you are right,, I asked my partner, he said he was confused too when he saw the land rover upright, he said how did they get that way,, they were spinning on the roof last night..............as I stated in my previous post it was a bit UNREALISTIC,, the crash...:searchme:

I thought it did and when it finished i watched the beale/mitchell thing on BBC3 and some dude said his biggest worry was getting it to land on 4 wheels, however if lastnight it landed on its roof the biggest worry should have been wether or not viewers would notice the mistake :rolleyes:

[PR1811]

Vicks you are right,, I asked my partner, he said he was confused too when he saw the land rover upright, he said how did they get that way,, they were spinning on the roof last night..............as I stated in my previous post it was a bit UNREALISTIC,, the crash...:searchme: The roll into the river was unrealistic. The Land rover was an automatic. The gearstick was in Park Mode. It is impossible to knock this off unless the engine is switched on. Funny too that the wheels turned during its drive toward the river as it moved yet remained straight whilst they lined it up for the river. The people who designed the Cardboard funfair stunt must have did thisa one too:thumbsdow
Yes how ridiculous, I don't know why there was all the whining, Phil should have just started it and driven on to the nearest hospital. It wasn't like the car was badly damaged or prone to malfunction :rolleyes:

The car definitely landed on it's wheels last night, it showed on the EastEnders Feuds that they were relieved that the stunt driver had managed to get it to land on it's wheels rather than on the roof/side

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Vicks you are right,, I asked my partner, he said he was confused too when he saw the land rover upright, he said how did they get that way,, they were spinning on the roof last night..............as I stated in my previous post it was a bit UNREALISTIC,, the crash...:searchme: The roll into the river was unrealistic. The Land rover was an automatic. The gearstick was in Park Mode. It is impossible to knock this off unless the engine is switched on. Funny too that the wheels turned during its drive toward the river as it moved yet remained straight whilst they lined it up for the river. The people who designed the Cardboard funfair stunt must have did thisa one too:thumbsdow
Yes how ridiculous, I don't know why there was all the whining, Phil should have just started it and driven on to the nearest hospital. It wasn't like the car was badly damaged or prone to malfunction :rolleyes:

The car definitely landed on it's wheels last night, it showed on the EastEnders Feuds that they were relieved that the stunt driver had managed to get it to land on it's wheels rather than on the roof/side

I know thats what he said but i am sure that car didnt land on wheels lastnight - im going to watch it sunday to find out though

[littlemo]

Tonight's episode was alright. do u think peter will die? i doubt it. i think the whole point of this scenario is for Ian to be in debt to Phil somehow. If Phil saves peters life, Ian's obligated to Phil.

[alan45]

Tonight's episode was alright. do u think peter will die? i doubt it. i think the whole point of this scenario is for Ian to be in debt to Phil somehow. If Phil saves peters life, Ian's obligated to Phil.Emm I think according to all the spoilers he dies

[Jessie Wallace]

I can assure you it landed on it's wheels, i've just watched it to see! :p

[Carol Woods]

Of course it landed on its wheels. You can watch the clip on You Tube.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Tonight's episode was alright. do u think peter will die? i doubt it. i think the whole point of this scenario is for Ian to be in debt to Phil somehow. If Phil saves peters life, Ian's obligated to Phil.Emm I think according to all the spoilers he dies

I heard that but then my friend said i was wrong so i dont know now :lol:

[parkerman]

It definitely landed on its wheels, but, as alan says, there is no way it could have just started rolling again.

[alan45]

It definitely landed on its wheels, but, as alan says, there is no way it could have just started rolling again.
Not only rolling again but the wheels magically turning towards the water. :rotfl:

[xTanya]

It was quite unrealistic in a number of places last night, I think it started rolling becuase Ian knocked the gears as he got out but still as you have said it was facing totally the wrong way lol. Also why on earth did the car not fill up with water totally when the windows were smashed in? (which reminds me how were some of them not when it rolled so many times) also I don't remember seeing Peter manage to get his seat belt off, and Peter was out cold for ages then he was suddenly fine again lol.

[DaVeyWaVey]

I actually really enjoyed last night's episode. It was gripping stuff, and i thought the actors who played Peter and Ben acted it out really well. The stunt was really well done too, and it didn't look cheesy to me. I think the car had air pockets in it so that's how they could breathe whilst underwater.

I hope Peter survives, and i liked the thing they did at the end with Lucy where she sensed her twin was in some kind of trouble, it's common for that to happen with twins.

[kiki28]

although it was quite unrealistic in some parts, its been the most exciting episode of EE for a long time!!!!!

[xTanya]

Yeah definetly don't get me wrong I did enjoy the eppisode lol

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Another thing why did it take Phil so long to work out that he could swim through the broken window to get to them

[PR1811]

Just as proof...

Car after the crash (http://www.keating.me.uk/pics/Car.JPG)

Wheels direction (http://www.keating.me.uk/pics/wheels.JPG)

:)

[alan45]

It was quite unrealistic in a number of places last night, I think it started rolling becuase Ian knocked the gears as he got out but still as you have said it was facing totally the wrong way lol. Also why on earth did the car not fill up with water totally when the windows were smashed in? (which reminds me how were some of them not when it rolled so many times) also I don't remember seeing Peter manage to get his seat belt off, and Peter was out cold for ages then he was suddenly fine again lol.

When an automatic gearbox is in the P position as was clear to see last night it is locked and unable to be moved unless the engine is started. So therefore no matter how hard Ian had hit it it would not have moved:nono:

[xTanya]

Yeah I thought that about Phil why did he just not swim straight round lol.

[Richie_lecturer]

Because he was looking for Dogfish?

[xTanya]

:rotfl: quite possibly I mean it's far more important than saving your son lol

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

It is stupid really, i mean any father would realise he could swim through the broken window to save his son but not Phil, had he actually had the brains to do that then he could have saved them quicker than he did :rolleyes:

[Pinkbanana]

Well I really enjoyed the episode - personally I didnt watch that closely to see which way the car wheels were facing! :rolleyes:

You can, if you want to, pick holes in any storyline, in any soap. Me I just like to chill out and watch EE for the entertainment value....it is afterall a work of fiction, and thus its not going to be a completely true reflection of real life - like ALL the other soaps. Soooo cut EE some slack guys.

[Jessie Wallace]

Well said PB. Watched it enjoyed it. Don't sit and try and looks for things. They are trying to make it better, as most of you ask them to do, and when they do people still moan.

[alan45]

Well said PB. Watched it enjoyed it. Don't sit and try and looks for things. They are trying to make it better, as most of you ask them to do, and when they do people still moan.I watched it with an open mind hoping that after all the hype and licence money they spent I could see something of the old EE. Sadly I was disappointed though not surprised. They still treat the viewers as fools. The 'accidental':rolleyes: knocking of the gear stick was nearly as contrived as the loose bolts on the dragon slide in the cardboard funfair or raising Den from the dead. Still was nice to see that the Mitchellan man has added Trauma Technician and Man from Atlantis to his dogged cv. I will give EE a miss for another while to see if Diederick Santer can salvage something out of the shambles his predecessors left him with. Feel free to let me know if it becomes watchable again anytime soon. I really would love to start watching it again on a regular basis and speak in glowing terms about the new improved EE back on form. When and if this happens you will discover me to be one of the biggest fans of it.

If you are honest with yourselves some of the plots and dramatic character transformations have been laughable, God knows what will happen when Letitia has had enough of pantoland and decides to return. All stories will be rewritten to facilitate her Dramatic Sensational Explosive return. They did this with Ard Man Johnny Allen to allow for the brief return of Grunt. (Although I hardly recognised the new touchy feely caring Grunt.)

PB and Dawny as you both know I am very aware how much you both love EE and I respect you for that.:) Maybe Im getting too cynical in my old age. I didnt sit through 30 mins of EE on Friday for the fun of it. I reall had hoped it had turned the corner.

End of Rant

[pinkles14]

Tonight's episode was alright. do u think peter will die? i doubt it. i think the whole point of this scenario is for Ian to be in debt to Phil somehow. If Phil saves peters life, Ian's obligated to Phil.Emm I think according to all the spoilers he dies

I carnt remember what book it was in but it says Ian hugs Phil for saving pete's life... So i dont think he dies..




Please remember this is a general discussion thread - please do not post spoilers unless within spoiler tags - thanks Jojo

[parkerman]

The Daily Mirror said yesterday that Phil is the hero of Albert Square for saving both Ben and Peter...






Please remember that this is a gen discussion thread - please do not post spoilers here unless within spoiler tags - Thanks Jojo

[alan45]

Tonight's episode was alright. do u think peter will die? i doubt it. i think the whole point of this scenario is for Ian to be in debt to Phil somehow. If Phil saves peters life, Ian's obligated to Phil.Emm I think according to all the spoilers he dies

I carnt remember what book it was in but it says Ian hugs Phil for saving pete's life... So i dont think he dies..
Glad to see Ian Beale taking the Tory leaders advice ''Hug a Hood'':rotfl:

[Dutchgirl]

I really liked the episode, I was glued to the television, and again good cliffhanger. And when they showed Lucy hearing Peter was realistic.

And sorry I thought Phil had a X5 instead of a Range Rover.

[parkerman]

watched it with an open mind hoping that after all the hype and licence money they spent I could see something of the old EE. Sadly I was disappointed though not surprised. They still treat the viewers as fools. The 'accidental':rolleyes: knocking of the gear stick was nearly as contrived as the loose bolts on the dragon slide in the cardboard funfair or raising Den from the dead.

I have to say I agree with alan on this. Yes, of course it is fiction and not real life and the stories have to be larger than life BUT it has to be believable. The whole point of a soap like Eastenders is that it is rooted in real life even if exaggerated. The problem with the last few years of Eastenders is that the plot lines are risible in many cases and the attention to detail just appalling. It is just sloppiness on the part of the production team and the idea behind it is they don't have to try too hard as they can get away with anything. It is also disrespectful to the viewers, it's as if they will put up with any old rubbish as long as it's called Eastenders.

I used to be firmly in the Eastenders camp as opposed to Coronation Street but now I have to say I infintely prefer Corrie. Although also fiction and exaggerated for the sake of drama, its stories are for the most part much more believable and better thought out, the scripts much better and the continuity more thoughtful and not an insult to the viewer's intelligence.

Well, that's my twopennorth!:)

[Pinkbanana]

watched it with an open mind hoping that after all the hype and licence money they spent I could see something of the old EE. Sadly I was disappointed though not surprised. They still treat the viewers as fools. The 'accidental':rolleyes: knocking of the gear stick was nearly as contrived as the loose bolts on the dragon slide in the cardboard funfair or raising Den from the dead.

I have to say I agree with alan on this. Yes, of course it is fiction and not real life and the stories have to be larger than life BUT it has to be believable. The whole point of a soap like Eastenders is that it is rooted in real life even if exaggerated. The problem with the last few years of Eastenders is that the plot lines are risible in many cases and the attention to detail just appalling. It is just sloppiness on the part of the production team and the idea behind it is they don't have to try too hard as they can get away with anything. It is also disrespectful to the viewers, it's as if they will put up with any old rubbish as long as it's called Eastenders.

I used to be firmly in the Eastenders camp as opposed to Coronation Street but now I have to say I infintely prefer Corrie. Although also fiction and exaggerated for the sake of drama, its stories are for the most part much more believable and better thought out, the scripts much better and the continuity more thoughtful and not an insult to the viewer's intelligence.

Well, that's my twopennorth!:)

Thats fair enough if you prefer Corrie to Enders. However bear in mind, alot of us still like and enjoy EE. I personally have seen a big improvement in the soap in recent times, and its the soap I prefer to watch.

I just wondered why some people seem to watch EE just to pull it apart and make supposedly 'witty' comments about it and the peeps who watch it on here (one of the most recent comment I read was that people who watched EE were either boring or liked watching boring progs!:rolleyes: ), and moreover, jump at the chance to have a dig on every single EE thread....

[alan45]

watched it with an open mind hoping that after all the hype and licence money they spent I could see something of the old EE. Sadly I was disappointed though not surprised. They still treat the viewers as fools. The 'accidental':rolleyes: knocking of the gear stick was nearly as contrived as the loose bolts on the dragon slide in the cardboard funfair or raising Den from the dead.

I have to say I agree with alan on this. Yes, of course it is fiction and not real life and the stories have to be larger than life BUT it has to be believable. The whole point of a soap like Eastenders is that it is rooted in real life even if exaggerated. The problem with the last few years of Eastenders is that the plot lines are risible in many cases and the attention to detail just appalling. It is just sloppiness on the part of the production team and the idea behind it is they don't have to try too hard as they can get away with anything. It is also disrespectful to the viewers, it's as if they will put up with any old rubbish as long as it's called Eastenders.

I used to be firmly in the Eastenders camp as opposed to Coronation Street but now I have to say I infintely prefer Corrie. Although also fiction and exaggerated for the sake of drama, its stories are for the most part much more believable and better thought out, the scripts much better and the continuity more thoughtful and not an insult to the viewer's intelligence.

Well, that's my twopennorth!:)

Thats fair enough if you prefer Corrie to Enders. However bear in mind, alot of us still like and enjoy EE. I personally have seen a big improvement in the soap in recent times, and its the soap I prefer to watch.

I just wondered why some people seem to watch EE just to pull it apart and make supposedly 'witty' comments about it and the peeps who watch it on here (one of the most recent comment I read was that people who watched EE were either boring or liked watching boring progs!:rolleyes: ), and moreover, jump at the chance to have a dig on every single EE thread....


I always try to give reasons for my criticisms of EE. Im not in the business of saying EE is crap without any explanation. It is at the end of the day only a soap as are Corrie and Emmerdale. I try to make my posts amusing to give people a bit of light relief from the My soap is better than your soap nonsense. You love EE, I dont have a problem with that and you put your point of view across in a very eloquent manner with reasoned arguments which I may or may not agree with. So please dont take offence at me when I diss EE I would rather not post about it than annoy you. At the end of the day its hardly the end of the world. At the moment Im preferring Emmerdale to Corrie anyway and its hardly the most realistic representation of a village in rural Yorkshire.

[Abi]

I watched the end of the omnibus today, thinking that with all the hype, this must be the break that EE has been waiting for, for the last 3 or 4 years, to get back to the top. But... It was just a bit rubbish. It lacked logic. They were at the bottom of the hill- why would it be able to roll down then? Phil even said to Billy "Go to the top of that hill". And if they were on a hill, with enough angle to move a whole bloody car, surely it would move just a little bit when Phil got out of it? (After all, he's hardly light). And then when it moved, he'd either get them all out carefully, or put the hand brake on- he's a mechanic!!

And when they got Peter out of the water, Phil stood there shaking him. Sure, they want to build up suspense, but pur-lease, shaking him?! At least try and recussitate (sp?) him!

Plus the "tree" they were going to crash into look rather much more like a twig to me!! I mean, not as huge as they were making it out to be.

And when Ian got dragged out of the car, he put him arms on the ground. Including the one that was dislocated or something. That wouldnt even be able to grab anything, let alone support his weight.

It was a good idea, but they were just a bit lame in the way they executed it. As has been said, it wasn't beleiveable, as there was so many flaws in it. Give us some credit, EE, and at least make sure your stories make sense!

[Siobhan]

Tonight's episode was alright. do u think peter will die? i doubt it. i think the whole point of this scenario is for Ian to be in debt to Phil somehow. If Phil saves peters life, Ian's obligated to Phil.Emm I think according to all the spoilers he dies

I heard that but then my friend said i was wrong so i dont know now :lol:

Your mate is wrong, not true what spoiler says... I will update in the "coming up in EE" thread

[CrazyLea]

Plus the "tree" they were going to crash into look rather much more like a twig to me!! I mean, not as huge as they were making it out to be.

In their defense there, it was rather big!! For a car. Smaller "twigs" than that tree could do huge damage.

[alan45]

Plus the "tree" they were going to crash into look rather much more like a twig to me!! I mean, not as huge as they were making it out to be.

In their defense there, it was rather big!! For a car. Smaller "twigs" than that tree could do huge damage.
Ah but they were not driving a car but a four wheel drive go anywhere Range Rover.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

How stupid is Keith, its obvious that an animal who doesnt have a brain as good as humans that will allow it to avoid the wire is going to cause the tv to fall down the stairs and break oh and how did Keith move that tv doesnt the bloke have a "bad back" :searchme:

Genrally that episode was boring, thought the Mitchell/Beale thing was nice though and Honey and Billy were cute aswell :wub:

[Pinkbanana]

[COLOR="Red"]I cant say I totally enjoyed tonight's episode. It just seemed soooo contrived and sickly. Im glad that the feud is over....it had run its course, but Ian and Phil becoming bosom buddies, and allowing Billy to run the old fruit and veg stall...:eek: I think I preferred it when Phil was flushing Ian's head down the loo to this...:lol:

Apart from that, I enjoyed tonight offering...
Mad May the pill popping doc! :eek:
The increasingly sinister Stella...:eek:
Oh and I wish that Keith had taken a tumble down those stairs with the telly!

[Katy]

what was with Phils resusitation methods, rubbing on peters chest. I have to say that made me laugh a lot.

[Siobhan]

I really liked it.. I cried at the start with Ian. My heart went out to him. It was a bit contrived the whole beale/mitchell thing but when you come close to losing your child, petty squabbles should be dropped.
Stella is pure evil in a can and May is finally caught out.. do you think Naomi will say something?

[tammyy2j]

I'm glad the feud is over it was becoming very boring. I have to say i'd like to see Phil and Jane hook up i think they get on really well and its not like he didn't go after Grant's ex before (i.e. Sharon). Dawn/May/Rob storyline is going on now for too long as is the Stacey/Max storyline.

[sarah42000]

Dawn/May/Rob storyline is going on now for too long .

It takes 9 months to have a baby, and the fact that the baby is really the whole point of the story line (why it actually started), it has to go on for at least that long. If it didnt, people would start going on about how unrealistic and unreasearched EE is. We get enough of that already

[JustJodi]

I'm glad the feud is over it was becoming very boring. I have to say i'd like to see Phil and Jane hook up i think they get on really well and its not like he didn't go after Grant's ex before (i.e. Sharon). Dawn/May/Rob storyline is going on now for too long as is the Stacey/Max storyline.


I think the Mitchell/Beale feud will go thru the kids, Ben and Peter.....Jane and Phil nah,,, ain't gonna happen,, they should bring Grant back, for a quickie,, hee he
I am sick of the whole Dawn/May/Rob triangle,, time for it to end,, May is going to get caught eventually ,,how long can a black eye last any way:searchme: shes been touching it up with make up to make it look worse than it really is,,Lets see what happens with the drugs Naomi discovers ....
Stacey and Max .. its gotta stop soon ,,,I just wish that they would fix things with Bradley and Stacey... but can't see how, especially if it all comes out about the doodling around Stacey did with his old man,, :wall:

[Abbie]

I thought it was quite funny how Ian and Phil had made up and then Peter and Ben started to have a go

[Kim]

Keith doesn't have a bad back. He was found out in 2005, I think it was, when he was kicking a ball around with Darren. I agree, Vicky, I'm sure the Tv would have broken even if it wasn't half hanging off of the top stair. It was so funny when it was falling, and with Dawn still finding parts of it in tonight's episode.

Liking the fact that there could now be a pattern drawn between the fact that May has accused Rob of giving her a black eye and Naomi of taking a patients' medication, when, on both occasions, she did it.

[callummc]

only started watching again this week,it seems to be improving in parts with the may-rob-dawn scenario and the miller webcam story,just a shame that the stacy-max things not come to a head yet it just dosn't look right to me and dont get me started on mickey and lee they really irritate me,mickey was a great cockney wideboy but since thjey paired them up he seems to have lost his edge never mind i'll perservere till the end of the week and see if i can get back into it,i good reason to watch i also think is stella and ben,maybe i'll tape it so i can fast forward the bits that seem to make me lose interest

[Lizzie Brookes]

I hope Stradley getback together soon. Stax is all wrong. Max is old enough to be her father and he's married with children. Bradley and Stacey are just right. I can'thelp liking May still even despite her unfairly planting the drugs on Naomi and driving her away. I think May needs help but I wonder why Naomi said she was dangerous. Mickey/Li - they should split, Li is just using him. I can't wait to see more Stella/Phil/Ben. I think May and Stella are the best charecters so far. I was sorry for Jim today when Tanya blanked him - he has changed or he wouldn't hang out with Patrick. The poor man was completely bewildered and couldn't understand what he was supposed to have done. To be fair Jim did nothing wrong - it was his so called friends who beat up Max's black friend and locked Max in the coffin not Jim.

[Joanne]

But if Max's version of the story was true, Jim did nothing to help him. When Max called to him to help Jim ignored him.

I couldn't stand by and watch that being done to either of my children and do nothing.

[tobyrory]

The thing is - this is Max's version and we all know what a liar he is. It will be interesting to hear Jim's version.

[Chris_2k11]

Can't believe i'm actually gonna say this but I think Naomi should have stayed. I didn't like her in the beginning with all the Sonia stuff but she wasn't too bad towards the end and I liked her interactions with May. I felt they could have done a bit more with her had she stayed a bit longer. There's far worse than her they could have got rid of.

[Pinkbanana]

Can't believe i'm actually gonna say this but I think Naomi should have stayed. I didn't like her in the beginning with all the Sonia stuff but she wasn't too bad towards the end and I liked her interactions with May. I felt they could have done a bit more with her had she stayed a bit longer. There's far worse than her they could have got rid of.

I cant believe Im saying this either, but I agree with you! I was actually thinking tonight maybe she should have stayed too. :eek:

[Lizzie Brookes]

I like Naomi too and am sorry she left. I know Martin and Sonia belong together but I didn't mind her relationship with Sonia - I like same sex relationships.

I suppose Max was telling the truth??? I know that he lied about being too afraid to go to the counsellor when he was actually with Stacey but I can't believe even Max could fabricate being locked in a coffin. Unlike Den who was to obsessed with Sharon and destroyed his family, Max despite his affairs still looks out for Tanya and his children and protects them from harm etc.

[DaVeyWaVey]

I completely agree with PB and Chris. Naomi really should have stayed, her character was completely wasted. EE producers could have done a lot more with her. I liked her scenes with May, Garry and Minty. Also, i liked the friendship Naomi and Dawn developed, and i wish Naomi stayed as her and Dawn could have joined forces to bring May down.

[Siobhan]

Maybe she will come back with vengence!!! and her, dawn and rob could bring down May.. but I like May's character.. it is very well acted

[Pinkbanana]

Erm, kind of felt tonight's episode was a bit of a let down after the build up to it...cant really explain it, just left a bit flat. Think its probably cause Ive always hated the Stacey and Max storyline, and cant believe they sacrificed the Bradders and Stace relationship for this (yet another tacky affair). Plus is was obvious (maybe cause I read the spoilers lol) that the whole sordid little affair wasnt going to come out tonight...

Just glad its over, wonder how long before it comes out and **it hits the fan! :eek: That will definitely be worth watching, as the characters central to this (Max, Tanya, Bradders, Stacey) are all played by very good actors.

[Richie_lecturer]

Can't believe i'm actually gonna say this but I think Naomi should have stayed. I didn't like her in the beginning with all the Sonia stuff but she wasn't too bad towards the end and I liked her interactions with May. I felt they could have done a bit more with her had she stayed a bit longer. There's far worse than her they could have got rid of.

Like Mickey, Keith, Li, Gus, Dawn, Rob, Mitchells, Wicks/Fox clan, Gary and Minty. Anyone left? :o

[Bobthechicken]

It was, as usual, let down by terrible writing. The plot was like something out of a kid's book.........Max meets Stacy, Stacey finds out Tanya's pregnant, they have a row and Max takes Stacey home (much screeching of tyres), Stacey finds Bradley waiting for her......yawn.......Bradley leaves Stacey and goes to see Max, Max is in a panic because he's only got 5 minutes to save the world-sorry, his marriage, with 2 minutes to spare he gets rid of Bradley and talks Tanya into leaving everything to go away (now!) on holiday.......and they all get out just in time. All very dramatic, but rubbish. I mean, come on, are we seriously expected to believe that Tanya would go just like that?

[alan45]

It was, as usual, let down by terrible writing. The plot was like something out of a kid's book.........Max meets Stacy, Stacey finds out Tanya's pregnant, they have a row and Max takes Stacey home (much screeching of tyres), Stacey finds Bradley waiting for her......yawn.......Bradley leaves Stacey and goes to see Max, Max is in a panic because he's only got 5 minutes to save the world-sorry, his marriage, with 2 minutes to spare he gets rid of Bradley and talks Tanya into leaving everything to go away (now!) on holiday.......and they all get out just in time. All very dramatic, but rubbish. I mean, come on, are we seriously expected to believe that Tanya would go just like that?Well it seemed like a good idea when discussed in the paralell yawniverse that is Elstree

[Lizzie Brookes]

I really liked it. I think both Max and Stacey were genuine when they told Bradley and Tanya thaty they didn't deserve them and had both done wrong. I think it is Tanya and the kids that Max truly loves. Like he himself said Stacey's a drug he is addicted to - there is no love there, just lust. Max should be with Tanya and Stacey with Bradley - that's right. I really liked them rushed off on holiday spontaneously - Max and Tanya were like two teenagers. If only Max wasn't so weak willed he could have continuedo resist Stacey just as Tanya resisted Sean.

[Bobthechicken]

.......Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......Well it seemed like it was written by a teenager.

[Lizzie Brookes]

[QUOTE]Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......[QUOTE]

Nothing wrong with that, I think that's quite romantic.

[alan45]

[QUOTE]Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......[QUOTE]

Nothing wrong with that, I think that's quite romantic.Nothing wrong with that except he is sha**ing a teenager:rotfl:

[alan45]

.......Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......Well it seemed like it was written by a teenager.

yes but no but yes but no that Stacey Slater one Am I boverred

[Pinkbanana]

Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......


Nothing wrong with that, I think that's quite romantic.Nothing wrong with that except he is sha**ing a teenager:rotfl:

Exactly Al, I couldnt have put it better myself, except to add....he is sha**ing a teenager in the Vic ladies loos.

Max is a total git, who wants to have his cake and eat it. He's really in need of the Bobbit treatment to curb his ways...:D lol

[alan45]

Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......


Nothing wrong with that, I think that's quite romantic.Nothing wrong with that except he is sha**ing a teenager:rotfl:

Exactly Al, I couldnt have put it better myself, except to add....he is sha**ing a teenager in the Vic ladies loos.

Max is a total git, who wants to have his cake and eat it. He's really in need of the Bobbit treatment to curb his ways...:D lolYou see PB you really do enjoy my EE comments I kew you would

[tammyy2j]

So Sean returns i must admit i'm liking him and Carly. Chelesa is so annoying. Kevin and Denise return from honeymoon to the news that Libby got arrested :cheer: :cheer: pity her and Chelesa are still in the square. The May storyline is boring and awful. It was nice to see Will Mellor if they keep him he would make a good addition to the cast

[Lizzie Brookes]

May and Stella are two of my favourite charecters at the moment. Denise is making a big deal outof this - Libby and Darren are ideally matched. Darren didn't mean to get her into trouble - if only Keith hadn't blown that money on the television. I only Darren had set up a bank account of his own forthe money they made from their websites. They weren't even kissing when Kevin and Denise walked in, they were just having a laugh and a bit of fun bashing each other with the pillows - anyone would do that. They are both underage anyway and Kevin's right - the poor boy cannot be blamed for his family.

[Kim]

Darren's been legal since January, and Libby isn't legal until July. Denise doesn't know about the stuff with Li, so she wasn't to know that Darren didn't have them for the benefit of Libby, and that wasn't caused by blaming him for his family. With them in the position that they were, I think any adult would think that that was what was going on. It wasn't like they were sitting where they could completely see what they were doing, with the cover being like that.

I can't figure out why they would put an hour on Tuesday though, it would make more sense on a Thursday.

[tammyy2j]

Keith is moving where? :searchme:

Is this where Demi and the mother is?

Dawn and Rob are so boring.

Chelesa is so annoying.

I was liking Carly and Sean but i think Sean and Shirley would be a better match now

[parkerman]

Keith is moving where? :searchme:

Is this where Demi and the mother is?


He's moving to South London isn't he? Not where Demi and Rosie are.

[Siobhan]

How insane is Dawn to think that just cause she told rob about the divorce that he was instantly going to marry her???

I loved the moments with Darren this week, especially the bit at the tube station.. my heart went out to him. I have no sympathy for Keith in any of this.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Ive not seen it all week :( anyone able to give me a brief of what ive missed - i assume i didnt miss much though

[Siobhan]

Ive not seen it all week :( anyone able to give me a brief of what ive missed - i assume i didnt miss much though

check out the episode guide Jodi has written. they will tell you everything

[Chris_2k11]

Im missing Tanya and the others. hope there back next week

Great to see Will Mellor in the show.

[Dutchgirl]

I'm felling sorry for Libby and Darren, I just grew to like him, I hope sincerely that he is not moving with his dad.

[Chris_2k11]

Enjoyed all the stuff with Denise and the Millers this week :) I know alot of people don't like her but I think she's brilliant

[Bryan]

Liked the Carly/Sean/Chelesea stuff last week, got potential to be a good storyline.

[Siobhan]

I like the sean/carly/chelsea storyline too.... it will hot up this week no doubt.. How up her own :moonie: is Chelsea??? dragging Carly over to the mirror saying that Sean would never look at her twice.. Chelsea is not as goodlooking as she likes to think she is.

Poor Dot.. I know exactly what she was going through, it was really good to see how desperate smokers can become when they quit.. I am sure all the people who tried to quit or who have quit will agree that she did a great job in showing what you can go through

[parkerman]

Chelsea is not as goodlooking as she likes to think she is.


Speaking as a mere male myself, I would infinitely prefer Carly to Chelsea any day.

[Richie_lecturer]

Chelsea sounds like a man, and she'll cost a few bob too if Roman wants to sell.....

[Bryan]

loved Dot's scenes last night, trying to give up the smoking, then reading the magazine to the baby ha ha

[Siobhan]

loved Dot's scenes last night, trying to give up the smoking, then reading the magazine to the baby ha ha

Actually it was the bit with the patches and the inhaler that made me laugh the most... If you have never smoked and tried to give up, you just wouldnt' understand.. she did the part justice... the amount of people I know who smoked on the patch and have fainted is unreal

[Abbie]

Lol Dot was pretty funny last night :lol:

[Scorpio_Girl]

I like the sean/carly/chelsea storyline too.... it will hot up this week no doubt.. How up her own :moonie: is Chelsea??? dragging Carly over to the mirror saying that Sean would never look at her twice.. Chelsea is not as goodlooking as she likes to think she is.

Poor Dot.. I know exactly what she was going through, it was really good to see how desperate smokers can become when they quit.. I am sure all the people who tried to quit or who have quit will agree that she did a great job in showing what you can go through

Wouldn't she have to give up smoking. on-screen, as the whole July 1st smoke-free thing will happen. I'm pretty sure EE will support that.

I quite like the whole Chelsea-Sean thing! Cos he's such a player and she's so 'hard'. I was pretty sure that she'll be the one to handle him. Oh well, we do need a resident 'player' on EE, I guess Sean will have to do. The scenes when Carly and Sean get together crack me up! :rotfl: and the way he smiles- he's still got that creepy look..

[Bryan]

I am really enjoying the Chelsea vs Carley thing, they both make me laugh the names they call each other, scrapping every five seconds lol

It's Kevin and Denise's reactions to the feud that crack me up the most, when Chelsea just twatted Kevin over the head with her handbag :lol:

[CrazyLea]

I'm really enjoying it too.Even though I must admit to not really liking Chelsea that much. Love Carly though (for some reason), and rather love Sean now (wouldn't have said that a few months ago :p). I like their little love affair. And I love how Kevin and Denise react too Bry. I love the way Denise reacts to things, she's funny :p

[JustJodi]

For some reason I actually like watching Caryl and Sean together...Chelsa is gonna catch them, and fur is gonna fly,, or is that feathers,,, oh well what ever ,, :rotfl:
Who wants to slap Stacey for being such a doo doo head ??? She was about to cut up Max's clothes then spots the after shave,, gee whiz,,:searchme:

So Brad tells her that Max and
Tanya are gonna stay in Spain,, her face is like:eek:

Darren is one kid I have grown to like..U can't help feeling sorry for him...Lets see if he actually finds a place to live...( and with whom )

Whatever happened to Bert and his snot nosed grandkid ??????? Did they fall into EE's black hole ??

[Siobhan]

I was thinking the same thing last night Jodi. where is Bert and jay... I reckon Yolande will take him in cause Libby will ask her.. she will be like the Irene Robert/Pippa Fletcher (for you h&W fans) of Albert Square.. all ways and strays will be coming to her house

[tammyy2j]

I'm loving Sean and Carly together . I didn't like both their characters at the beginning but they are really a good match. Chelesa is an annoying airhead. Poor Dot trying to give up the fags i hope she succeeds. She is portraying her struggle very well. Stacey/Bradley :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: i don't really care what happens with them anymore.

[callummc]

well i wasn't impressed with tonights episode i havn't watched much for weeks and needn't have worried that i wouldn't be able to catch up,nothings chaged ,the storylines don't seem to have moved on at all

[littlemo]

That episode was sooo good! the stuff with Stacey and Bradley, Dot, and Sean/Carly. I dont think there was a bad point to it. Apart from Darren leaving, which was quite sad, but he'll be back! lol. (nice snog between Darren and Squiggle).

I loved seeing Dot and Bradley talking about abortion, and Bradley making the confession. It was good stuff! It must hurt Bradley thinking that Dot is still effected by this 50 yrs on. Thinking about what he might have done to Stacey.

I really thought that Stacey would throw Bradley's apologies back in his face, she never seems to want to hear it.

[Richie_lecturer]

I'll have to catch the tail end of the omnibus on Sunday. I was looking forward to seeing Dr Legg return - a harp back to the good old days. :)

[Joy2286]

Brilliant episode last night- so emotional!

[LostVoodoo]

how on earth was flinging a baby in Stacey's face a good idea?! and taking a photo of the three of them together? it just seemed really cruel to me, the poor girl!

[callummc]

after being bored silly on thurs i'm glad i watched fridays episode,so different,really enjoyed it,wish all episodes could be up to the same class

[Siobhan]

Friday was really good and Carly is so much better for Sean than Chelsea.. she is so self centered. Love the Squiggle/Darren kiss.. ahhhh how sweet and poor dot giving up the baby.

Wonder what bradder is going to do now that Deano blabbed about Stacey

[littlemo]

Tonights episode was good! im glad that Stacey and Bradley are finally talking! its good were getting to see them again. And Bradley took Stacey and Deano together so well. It was really good!

Even though i really want them to be together though, i want Stacey to tell Bradley the truth about Max. I dont see how they can do anything with that hanging over them.

How hypocritical is Shirley? and why is she interfering in Carly's life. its none of her business.

[Siobhan]

I really thought she was going to tell Bradley too but the way I see it, Why bother!! Max is not coming back so do he really need to know yet???

[slater girl]

Stacey was a fine one to talk at the end when she said bradley is worse than his dad, when she said about what women his dad is screwing, and he is devious, stacey is just as bad and devious like bradley is and she should remember that as she is just like max as well as bradley's way of being devious to get the job as she has been screwing his father behind his stepmum's back and been betraying his sisters by lieing to them and acting and pretending to be a replacement for tanya if max leaves tanya as that is what stacey's wants.

Stacey is such an hypocrite over what he has done and she should look at what she has done like cheating and lieing and she should remember that as she is a fine one to talk about lecturing bradley about being scum and evil and corrupt as stacey is just the same as he but stacey is ten times worse then him as stacey is just as evil as well like bradley is and she should remember that as she is no angel and not totally pure either.

Good on bradley for showing stacey how mean and nasty he can be as stacey already know how nasty bradley can be as stacey has seen this before over their breakup.

It seems to be stacey has two sets of rules, one for her and how she should behave and one for bradley, she is an fine one to talk.

I hope he tells stacey some home truths when the stax affair comes out as i sure he will and he will use his dark side on her as i am pretty sure he will as she totally deserves her comeuppuces the most just like max does.

[Pinkbanana]

Really enjoyed tonight's episode! :)

Beauitful scenes between Dot & Jim. Really lovely to watch.

Mad May and Rob...eh! :eek: Talk about twists and turns...

Bradders was a totally plonker, shows that there's depth to his character, having a ruthless streak, he's not adverse to screwing people over in order to get want he wants.

Though Stacey telling off :nono: , and did she really say 'at least Max is honest about who he screws?!' :eek: Erm, not he isnt, love! That's why he's holed up in Spain! :lol:

[Siobhan]

I loved the scenes with Dot and Jim, they are a great on screen couple. Didn't think Bradley would be that low.. thought he learnt his lesson from the last job he went for..

[Bryan]

Bradley makes me cringe, that kid cant act. And the writers, good god - they give Bond fans a bad name, we're not geeks like that.

I'm sick of Bracey running the show, get some new characters in and give them some of the limelight.

[callummc]

have to agree with you bondfoffin about bradley,i actually liked him when he first arrived,now he has had a personality transplant i have re named him boring bradley,when hes not boring me hes irritating me

[Siobhan]

I like Bradley and Stacey working together on screen.. they bounce of each other

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

When Dot was by Arthur's grave she said she lied to Jim, how did she lie to Jim? did i miss something :searchme:

[*-Rooney-*]

well i think its because jim was led to believe dot was scattering paulines ashes in southend not burying them with arthur since she needs martins permission to do so, so it was all done secretly.

just before dot left the house thats why jim shouted out if you get the chance can you bring some rock and a bag of chips

[Richie_lecturer]

I saw last night's episode, my first in a long time.

It wasn't too bad actually. June Brown was excellent, Dot at her very best. I liked the scenes with Dot and Jim as well. However these two/Dot alone carried the episode for me. The rest I found rather dull however. Carly/Sean/Chelsea love triangle was boring, and the rest wasn't much to write home about either.

An improvement on the last time I watched however, and I may watch the forthcoming episodes featuring the criminally underused Pat.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Despite the way May is I still can;'t help liking her and Amanda Drew is brilliant in the role just as sophie Tompson is in Stella's. I like Rob and may together not Rob and Dawn and i really hope that May will get treatment andget better as she is obviously ill and that she and Rob get back together ad leve the square. Dawn should find a new boyfriend - one she is more suited to, I think Rob only went to her because he was irritated with may for a time and felt guilty and a bit sorry for Dawn. He still loves May.

[Scorpio_Girl]

WHOOT! It's Steve, the Key-Cutters' Birthday!!! lol

[CrazyLea]

WHOOT! It's Steve, the Key-Cutters' Birthday!!! lol
Mickey did say he made him up lol..

[Scorpio_Girl]

Did he?? I just thought it was some extra, like that wins-low guy or summit. :p

Damnit, did he actually say he made him up?? If he did I really should pay attention. I only said it 'cause it was the only thing I remembered. Everything else was blah blah...

[CrazyLea]

:lol: Yeah, unless I misheard. I think he said, it was just an excuse for a party. But yeah I know what you mean :lol:.

Although, I quite liked the Rob/May/Dawn stuff tonight, although I like them always lol. I am so confused with the whole Rob/May stuff!! :lol:. I'm so intrigued yet so confused. I reckon Rob still loves May though, more than Dawn.

[Debs]

lea im confused too! Is it all just an act??? what the heck is going on! i agree though rob must still love may!

[Scorpio_Girl]

I think everyone's confused! My aunt just asked what was up with him- the whole may/rob/dawn thing when we watched EE (family show n that).

I think he's used to loving May but he did love Dawn too as he sided with her. His old feelings are coming back and it doesn't help with May messing with his head. He's started to get lured back into the dark side with May but he stilll does care about Dawn.

It's too much to be an act.. unless he's schitsophrenic (sp)??

[Chris_2k11]

I thought it was quite good tonight

[JustJodi]

Ok here is my take on this ROB/DAWN AND may...
Rob and May have probably cooked something up,,, and they are gonna do something to lure Dawn and get that baby at all costs,, something bad is gonna happen, and I have a feeling Dawn is going to be hurt very badly,, this is just my 2 euro cents worth,,,
I actually "liked"Keith at one point, he was actually "fatherly"towards Dawn,, which I found quite umm touching,, I am as confused as every one else is,,,
:searchme:

[Siobhan]

Actually that story about the lions that Keith told Dawn was really nice.. I liked that moment between them... I am in agreement with you.. something is going on with Rob and May.. mmmm wonder what that would be

[JustJodi]

Ok every one what did you guys think about what happened to Dawn,, Ok I knew something shifty was going on, but this is gonna land both Rob and May in the pokey ( isn't kidnapping a serious charge in the UK ?? ):searchme:
Did you all catch Berts grandson ?? Wonder where he and Bert have been ,, and how Bert is doing.( he had an eye operation didn't he ?? ):searchme:
Too bad that guy Marco isn't going to hang around,, he was pretty cool,,:hmm:
Next week should be verrrrrrrrry interesting:ninja:

[CrazyLea]

I loved the ending. You could tell all the way through that Rob was kinda up to something. I can't wait til Monday.. long time since I've said that about EE. I mean I've liked it, but I'm actually excited :p.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I can't wait for Monday either. It's not reallykidnapping I don't think - I mean Dawn went of her own free will but well...I gree that May is treating Dawn in an appalling way and that Rob is a spineless wealing who is totally under May's thumb. Yet I can't help liking May despite everything and there is no denying that Dawn should have realised that Rob and May were desperate and done her surrogacy properly whether or not the contract was binding before things escalated to this level. if it were me in the first place I would not use a baby to get a lover back from his spouse.

I would actually insist Rob remained with his wife. In fact, Dawn can't cope with a baby on her own and if Rob and May were that desperate - I would think - just let them take the baby for God's sake. I really want Rob and May back together - they have such a great connection. He doesn't love Dawn, he was with her out of guilt and because he was fed up with May for a time.

[Pinkbanana]

I was actually quite shocked when Dawn went in the house, and mad May appeared....I wonder though when did Rob and May cook up this plan? I mean it couldnt have been the case all along - I hope EE dont expect us to swallow that! :rolleyes:

Having read the spoilers for the next few weeks, I can honestly say I am really looking forward to watching EE again. Glad I 'toughed it' out now through the dire Max and Stacey etc storylines...:)

[DaVeyWaVey]

I caught up with this week's EE episodes today - it was brilliant. Stacey and Bradley are fantastic together and I find Stacey a much more likeable character when she's with Bradley, instead of when she's with Max.

The Dawn/Rob/May storyline is fantastic and i loved the ending on Friday. What a brilliant twist that Rob and May were in on it all along! I can't wait until the climax of it all this upcoming week.

[Siobhan]

I knew may was going to be there cause I read the spoiler but I still loved it.. I was like "Dawn, dont' go in there".. Can't wait for tonight to see what happens.. EE is getting great again

[DaVeyWaVey]

Well all i can say is what an exceptional and fantastic episode of Eastenders. I can safely say I haven't been hooked to an episode of a soap like this for ages. The acting was certainly top notch and i must say Kara Tointon was the star of the episode for me. Her acting as a struggling and distressed pregnant woman was played out brilliantly, and May was as mad as ever and her acting was also top notch!

The scenes with Dawn chained to the bed were incredibly disturbing and I felt Dawn's distress and agony. Kara's acting shone tonight, it really did. When she was begging Rob to let her go, i really hoped that he would have but i felt that he was having doubts over May's plans anyway. The music added more of an effect and an atmosphere to the dramatic and gripping scenes we seen with Dawn lashing out Rob, then at May. I was shouting at my tv screen for Dawn to just run and run and run! I felt the tension of Dawn trying to escape. May shouting at the end for her baby just shown to us how mad she really is, and her singing lullabies shown also, how much of a psycho she really is.

Other parts of the episode were also fantastic. I loved Garry's irony when leaving a message for Dawn on her phone "your probably a little tied up right now" The Stella/Ben scenes were very good, and I liked Yolande's jealousy after Patrick saved Peggy from falling from the ladder.

What an exceptional episode. I haven't been as gripped or felt so drawn in by an episode of a soap for a long time.

10/10

[Chris_2k11]

Must admit I really enjoyed it, I know it was OTT and everything but so what? If we liked it we liked it. I know Dawn isn't very popular but she's really grown on me over the past few months and is now one of my faves in the show. May is great too, I proper jumped when she appeared at the car window haha. Looking forward to tomorrow :cool:

[Joanne]

I agree - it was an exceptional episode.

May singing while she was folding the baby clothes was so creepy. When her face appeared at the car window when Dawn was starting to drive off made me jump even though I was expecting it to happen.

Also, it was the first time that I've seen Dawn actually have real feelings for the baby she's carrying rather than previously, when I've thought the baby was just a way for her to be with Rob in her eyes. It was touching that she got so protective, adamant that May wasn't going to be her baby's mum. She seemed genuinely fearful, not just for her own life but also her little one's.

[Siobhan]

Totally agree with everyone.. this had me hooked from start to finish and May was brilliant.. she was scary and creepy. A woman posessed.. Even Rob played the man who was dominated and torn.. I am not a big fan of Dawn but she was brilliant last night.. loved every minute of it and can't wait for tonight

[JustJodi]

:eek: :eek: :eek: Whoa what an episode,,, this is what we have all been waiting for, see EE can do it,, I mean wow !!!!!!!!
I do think Rob has some "feelings "for Dawn...cos he could have stopped her from getting out the door,,
I am really looking forward to seeing what happens this evening,, Keith and Mickey and YES GARY would go and find Rob and tar and feather him and nail his butt to the door,, Remember Keith told Rob not once but twice to take care of her or he would answer to him,,,
I guess once the excitement over Dawn and the baby dies down then EE will swing over to Stella ( the other nut case ) and the Milky Bar kid Ben...

I have to rate last nights episode a 10.. cos it had me glued to my seat and yelling at the TV and scaring the beejeebies outta my dog and my partner LOL

[Meh]

As I've not been keeping up to date with EE can someone give a brief outline of the plot.

As I see it:

Rob and May were a couple
Rob got off with Dawn and got her pregnant
May can't have babies
May turns psycho
Rob and Dawn decide to move away and start a new life
Robs been lying to Dawn and take her to house where May is going to nab the baby
Rob and May planned this from the start?

[JustJodi]

As I've not been keeping up to date with EE can someone give a brief outline of the plot.

As I see it:

Rob and May were a couple
Rob got off with Dawn and got her pregnant
May can't have babies
May turns psycho
Rob and Dawn decide to move away and start a new life
Robs been lying to Dawn and take her to house where May is going to nab the baby
Rob and May planned this from the start?


Yup thats pretty much it, they had her handcuffed to the bed,May sediates her, goes off to get a C SECTION kit, Comes back and Rob is starting to get a bit concerned and goes up to check on Dawn, Dawn clobbers him, and kicks him in the crown jewels and runs off...I tell ya May was demented when she got to the car screaming something about the baby ( Dawn locked the doors) Dawn speeds off.......
Tony watch tonight if u can :D

[Jessie Wallace]

I don't think they'd planned the whole thing tho, i do believe Rob atually hads feelings for Dawn. But with May's physco powers got him back on side

[moonstorm]

I loved last night's episode but aparently 80 people didn't, they thought it was too scary and complained. Just shows you can't satisfy everyone!!

[Lizzie Brookes]

I really enjoyed it too - can't wait till tonight.

[megan999]

Excellent episode. I've always been a fan of Dawn's, and May too. I enjoyed it all except Carly and Sean. I can't stand Sean.

[LostVoodoo]

I don't think they'd planned the whole thing tho, i do believe Rob atually hads feelings for Dawn. But with May's physco powers got him back on side

lol, May's super psycho powers!

[DaVeyWaVey]

Another enjoyable episode tonight. Kara Tointon once again, really impressed me with her acting. I liked her scene with Garry at the beginning, and i thought it was very touching how Garry seemed to be wanting to be there for her. Dawn's distress and agony was made very clear yet again when she returned to the Square and to her home - and it was wonderfully acted by Kara.

Rob's return was a great surprise and i thought Dawn's reaction towards him was spot on - she was clearly terrified of him after the events at his parents' house and she was clearly not thinking straight so threatened him with a knife - Dawn's behaviour was very erratic and it was brought across well. She was really impressive at the end when she went into labour too, at this point, her acting was very convincing. I liked Keith, Garry and Mickey's behaviour towards Rob - their behaviour was spot on. They were obviously horrified over his treatment of Dawn and were determined to uncover what happened down at Rob's parents' house.

The Stella/Ben scenes were also very good - Ben seemed to be enjoying practicing football, until Ben ended up kicking the ball in Stella's face. He looked genuinely scared over the consequences after he ended up kicking the ball at Stella's face!

The Carly/Shirley scenes were good too, and i was completely surprised when Carly pushed Shirley in the road and she nearly got knocked over! :eek: I wasn't expecting that at all, and the event shown that Carly can sometimes be a woman, that you shouldn't mess with!

Peggy was really funny with her watergun and the line of the episode has to go to Pat "There seems to have been a few isolated showers" :D

10/10

[Richie_lecturer]

I loved last night's episode but aparently 80 people didn't!

Make that 81. I found it horrendous. Sorry.

[Jessie Wallace]

It wasn't that they didn't like the episode Richie, they thought the contents wasn't right for pre-watershed!

[alan45]

I loved last night's episode but aparently 80 people didn't!

Make that 81. I found it horrendous. Sorry.


It wasn't that they didn't like the episode Richie, they thought the contents wasn't right for pre-watershed!

According to DS and Sky News its almost 200. (Strangely no mention on BBC) Not all the complaints were because it was shown pre watershed some were for poor storylining and acting.

Not having watched it I will not comment

[StarsOfCCTV]

I quite liked the episode :) Thought Dawn's acting was better than usual :p

Loved peggy's water gun :lol:

Poor Ben though :( Just as things started to look up....

[tammyy2j]

Rob and May are both complete pschyos. Poor Dawn but at least it is giving her a story. I think Garry and Dawn make a cute couple i like if they explored this. I hope they beat the crap out of Rob. I loved Stella playing footie with Ben :rotfl: :rotfl: she is one of the best characters in Eastenders for a long time. Carly and Shirley stuff was boring as usual

[Bryan]

I've been really impressed with Eastenders these past two days! Have thoroughly enjoyed them, for all the rubbish we've been given, this weeks offerings have shown a great deal of improvement, let's hope they can keep this up without the fantastic Stuart Laing and Amanda Drew!

I don't care what people think of Kara Toninton, she's shone throughout this storyline, and is now one of my favourite characters. I've enjoyed this storyline from start to finish, and it's good to see it reach a satisfying and explosive conclusion.

I'm really liking Shirley, she's one of the best things to hit Eastenders in ages, I love how they're exploring her turbulant relationship with Carly, can't believe she pushed her mother infront of a moving cab! :eek:

Stella and Ben were good aswell, you just know that kid is gonna get beaten up for smakcing the ball into her face, it's just a shame that this storyline isn't going to last for much longer, as Sophie Thompson has given an outstanding performance from day one.

And Peggy with the watergun, hilarious :lol: I even like Keith and Mickey yesterday, didn't think I'd ever say that! Not a bad word to say about Eastenders atm.

[Jessie Wallace]

I loved last night's episode but aparently 80 people didn't!

Make that 81. I found it horrendous. Sorry.


It wasn't that they didn't like the episode Richie, they thought the contents wasn't right for pre-watershed!

According to DS and Sky News its almost 200. (Strangely no mention on BBC) Not all the complaints were because it was shown pre watershed some were for poor storylining and acting.

Not having watched it I will not comment

Some people have nothing better to do with their time, but complain tho, and other's like to jump on the band wagon, and complain just because others have too!
I personally didn't see a problem with it, and for once didn't feel the need to channel hop during it, which is very rare for me during any tv show at the moment.

[alan45]

Loved peggy's water gun :lol:

Glad to see her career in films has been put to good use.

When can we expect to see Carry On Up The Queen Vic:rotfl:

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

Its not i dont like the Dawn/Rob/May thing, its gripping ill give it that but i just feel something isnt right with it, i understand they had to do the re-write but they didnt do it in a believable way IMO its like monday night you could see where they cut it then stuck a new bit in, its like if i cut up a picture then stuck a bit of a different picture in the middle of it. Thats my only trouble with it, other than that its been good so far this week.

[Richie_lecturer]

It wasn't that they didn't like the episode Richie, they thought the contents wasn't right for pre-watershed!

Well I was being a little sarcy in my reply. I didn't find it gruetesque, just dreadfully scripted and badly acted. Mind you, at times I wondered if EE had moved from Elstree to nearby Pinewood. All it was missing was a cliched thunderbolt and Christopher Lee in a cape flying down from the roof.
I am as surprised as you are by the complaints though.


I've been really impressed with Eastenders these past two days! Have thoroughly enjoyed them, for all the rubbish we've been given, this weeks offerings have shown a great deal of improvement, let's hope they can keep this up without the fantastic Stuart Laing and Amanda Drew!
Now I saw an episode or two last week and thought it was alright, thanks to the wonderful June Brown. Despite the talents of Amanda Drew, it didn't work for me this week, and I also think Stuart Laing is awful.


I don't care what people think of Kara Toninton, she's shone throughout this storyline, and is now one of my favourite characters. I've enjoyed this storyline from start to finish, and it's good to see it reach a satisfying and explosive conclusion.
Kara, and this storyline, have had their moments. However I've found these to be more negative overall, rather than positive. She doesn't look that pregnant on the face though. Monday was really bad when Dawn escaped. The way she smashed Rob over the head with the vase/paperweight thing was unintentionally funny, and it was also amazing how she quickly escaped and had the energy to escape. Remember she hadn't eaten all weekend, so where did she get the strength to get away? She also got in May's car incredibly easily for someone about to give birth. The seat would have to be adjusted backwards to accomodate the bump.


I'm really liking Shirley, she's one of the best things to hit Eastenders in ages, I love how they're exploring her turbulant relationship with Carly, can't believe she pushed her mother infront of a moving cab!
Linda Henry is a top talent, but she seems a little bored and I can't blame her really. Can't stand Carly.


Stella and Ben were good aswell, you just know that kid is gonna get beaten up for smakcing the ball into her face, it's just a shame that this storyline isn't going to last for much longer, as Sophie Thompson has given an outstanding performance from day one.
She's worth watching alone, even though this storyline doesn't work for me at all. Wasn't convinced by Stella's reason for keeping Ben off school last night at all.


And Peggy with the watergun, hilarious
I thought this was absolutely dreadful, 'humour' at its very worst. It reminded me of why I think EE is horrendous at comedy. Why did Peggy not get a watering can and bring it upstairs to water the hanging baskets, or even used a bucket or something from the kitchen. I thought it was all childish and stupid, and definately the worst thing about the episode.


I even like Keith and Mickey yesterday, didn't think I'd ever say that! Not a bad word to say about Eastenders atm.
I thought they, plus Rob, were painful to watch last night. Ghengis Khan was the better actor.

All in all, I found it very bad television.

[CrazyLea]

I thought this was absolutely dreadful, 'humour' at its very worst. It reminded me of why I think EE is horrendous at comedy. Why did Peggy not get a watering can and bring it upstairs to water the hanging baskets, or even used a bucket or something from the kitchen. I thought it was all childish and stupid, and definately the worst thing about the episode.
I didn't agree with most of your comments, but I agree whole-heartedly with this one. I just squirmed when Peggy was being all silly and childish. And okay, I must admit I did think of the water gun with the watering.. but from outside lol! :o. But Peggy was dire last night.

I did really enjoy the episode though. And although I don't think Kara's that great of an actress, I thought it worked. I love Amanda, Stuart and Sophie, so they made the episode for me personally.. although wait May wasn't in it last night, so just Rob really, cause Stella didn't do much.

[parkerman]

I don't care what people think of Kara Toninton, she's shone throughout this storyline, and is now one of my favourite characters. I've enjoyed this storyline from start to finish, and it's good to see it reach a satisfying and explosive conclusion.
Kara, and this storyline, have had their moments. However I've found these to be more negative overall, rather than positive. She doesn't look that pregnant on the face though. Monday was really bad when Dawn escaped. The way she smashed Rob over the head with the vase/paperweight thing was unintentionally funny, and it was also amazing how she quickly escaped and had the energy to escape. Remember she hadn't eaten all weekend, so where did she get the strength to get away? She also got in May's car incredibly easily for someone about to give birth. The seat would have to be adjusted backwards to accomodate the bump.

Yes, I agree that things have been looking up a bit in Eastenders recently but I did think the escape scene was poor and spoiled the whole thing. I know it's only a story and all that but to get away with it you do need to carry it out realistically. I agree with richie's points above. Also, I couldn't see why they let her get as far as the car. Why didn't May just go straight after her?


And Peggy with the watergun, hilarious



I thought this was absolutely dreadful, 'humour' at its very worst. It reminded me of why I think EE is horrendous at comedy. Why did Peggy not get a watering can and bring it upstairs to water the hanging baskets, or even used a bucket or something from the kitchen. I thought it was all childish and stupid, and definately the worst thing about the episode.

Absolutely dire. Eastenders have no idea how to write comedy. Just look at Corrie for how to do it properly. Also, the acting in general. The Dawn/Rob/May scenes are not a patch on Steve/Michelle in Corrie. Now, that's real acting.

[Debs]

Dawn has had me in stitches tonight!

poeple are looking up my twinkle :rotfl: farted on the train :rotfl:

getting carly to sing :rotfl: