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Babe14

25-07-2006, 10:03

First Time

http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/eastenders/east010806(2)_carlyjake.jpg
Elsewhere, the sexual tension escalates between Carly and Jake as they prepare for Martin's 21st celebration and the pair end up having sex in the office

Gus and Mickey find Owen passed out in a skip. Kevin soon confronts Owen and ends up punching him. Jake intervenes and takes Owen back to Scarlet when Owen opens up to him. Later, Kevin suggests that the Fox family stay with him for safety. How will Owen react when he realises that he may have lost Squiggle for good?

Elsewhere, Pauline stumbles across Carly and Jake together. A bewildered Carly promises to let Martin down gently but Pauline has different ideas.

Replay!:lol:

http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/eastenders/east030806(2)_carlyjake.jpg

There really is something about that office desk

http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/eastenders/east030806_jakecarlypauline.jpg

Looks like he's telling Pauline that he couldn't careless what she thinks:lol:

Oh Bugger!
Meanwhile, at the party, Martin realises that Carly is missing and heads to Scarlet's office, walking in on Jake and Carly kissing. Martin rushes out, utterly embarrassed. Sonia catches up with him on Bridge Street. Back inside, Carly and Jake realise that the chemistry between them has gone.
They are doing it again character assassination!:angry:
First Sonia and now Jake!

diamond1

25-07-2006, 10:37

:) bits and bobs from todays inside soap

owen and jake have a bit of a fight (this is mentioned in the kevin/denise article),pauline catches jake and carly (she throws a surprise party for martin as no one else does)and pauline asks them to keep it quiet not to hurt martin,jake feels the relationship is too serious and dumps carly...however kellie shirley reveas that recent filming suggests more flirting between them

sorry if its brief im sure someone will scan it sooner than later

Nigella harman

25-07-2006, 12:05

Can I just say Jake Moon deserves a medal:angel: !Ruby is not an easy girl to look after is she!?:wall:

BlackKat

25-07-2006, 12:57

From what it sounds to me, the storyline next week is: "Jake and Carly have sex. And then have sex. And then have sex. And then Pauline catches them. And then once she's gone they have sex. And then they have sex...And then Martin catches them. And then they don't have any more sex."

I'm not really complaining because well...look at all the sex. But it does sound pretty pointless.

Anyway, here's the scans. I couldn't find Inside Soap, but I'll see if I can get it tonight. :)

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This bit is my favourite:
"They end up having sex in the office," says Kellie. "Joel Beckett and I went for it to such an extent the camera crew got embarrassed!

"Carly and Jake fancy each other and they end up having sex everywhere - on a table, the stairs...it's steamy stuff!"

Normally actors chat about love scenes beforehand but the show's producer specifically asked Kellie and Joel not to.

"They wanted it to be real, to look like two strangers having sex," says Kellie. "But Joel's a good-looking bloke so I found it easy to do those scenes."

I bet she did, :wub:

The scenes will probably end up cut much like Ross Kemp's "Grant and Jane's scenes are xxx rated, it's like nothing you've seen in EastEnders before, it's so raunchy blah blah," which ended up being "Blink and you'll miss it." But it sounds fun anyway, lol.

There really is something about that office desk

Ever since Jake took over we've only seen the office a few times. And I think, barring Ruby's mugging yesterday, all those times have been because either him or Grant were getting it on with someone in there, :lol:

however kellie shirley reveas that recent filming suggests more flirting between them

One of the articles does say Carly ends up liking Jake more than she bargained for, and that Kellie hopes it continues. There was also a Q&A with Kellie in Inside Soap a few weeks ago where she said she'd like Carly and Jake to get together. So it may continue, who knows? There's no mention of either of them for the following week though.

Edit: Forgot to mention, there was also something in the tv mags about Dawn spotting Jake and Carly in the Vic together and she guesses what's going on.

diamond1

25-07-2006, 13:49

Edit: Forgot to mention, there was also something in the tv mags about Dawns spotting Jake and Carly in the Vic together and she guesses what's going on. another fight between them lol...this tells me that dawn still likes jake so theres still more chance for an affair between them.

screw rob minter he can go to hell
dawn and jake all the way:heart:

diamond1

25-07-2006, 14:05

:thumbsup: 1000 posts yay :thumbsup:

going back yeah I will never understand why ee hinted at dawn and jake yet never got them as a couple,there was major hints there or was it just me.
I am assuming carly and jake will become a couple after all the hints in the soap magazines
jake might realize that he needs a partner now more than ever -I dont think carly is his perfect partner I think dawn she is quite a tough character,caring perfect for jake she would handle the revaltion of dannys death better than carly.

BlackKat

25-07-2006, 14:14

I also don't know why they bothered hinting at Jake/Dawn only to do nothing with it. :mad:

I'm gonna wait to see Carly/Jake until I compare. Right now I prefer Carly to Dawn, but only because all Dawn has had are stupid storylines (like this Mrs Beale nonsense). I think Dawn has a huge potential (her turning out like her mother what with looking after Darren etc has to be focused on more.) but if the writers never do anything with it then all it's gonna be is potential, which does not a good character make. :thumbsdow

diamond1

25-07-2006, 14:26

ee dont capatalize on the characters at all,all the millers could be used better I mean they way they wrote rosie off was pathetic,
and jake's never got storylines these days apart from a lot of desk work

BlackKat

26-07-2006, 08:58

I love how, in both Monday’s ep and yesterdays, Jake has told Stacey to sort things out with Ruby -- but it's not really because he cares what goes on between them...it's just because he can't be arsed dealing with Ruby's tantrums.

I love him when he's like that, because while I think he does care about Ruby (you can see this Monday where he followed and made sure she got to the club okay, even after she yelled at him) but most of the time...well like I said, he just can't be doing with her. :rotfl: And really, who could blame him.

Babe14

26-07-2006, 11:53

Looking forward to these steamy scenes However you can take it as read that the only steam we will see will be early morning condensation on the windows or that of hot water coming from a tap:lol:

I feel that they are ruining Jake's character by givng none meaningful storylines,only ones of a sexual nature. However I like the idea of Jake/Carly as a couple, Carly is a strong person and one who is better suited to Jake than Dawn, she's more understanding and gentle, more mature, but it will end in tears because as we all know our Joel is leaving soon. They have made it so Jake' character has become pointless and doesn't fit into the "New Enders" reason being:

Lack of use
Lack of decent storylines or any storyline since back in March.
They have turned him into some kind of nympho and a child minder for Ruby, rather than a big brother figure.
It's not that I'm p/d off about him being a "playboy" :wub: as I quite like this but it's the fact that Jake isn't getting any other storylines and the fact that they have ruined a great character who had great potential.
They have done exactly the same with Sonia destroyed her character by turning her into a wineo.

BlackKat

26-07-2006, 12:13

I don't think anything is wrong with the way they are writing Jake -- I can't really say he's been written out of character at all this year. It's just that they don't use him at all. (Although with the characters they use all the time becoming more annoying by the second through crappy storylines and over-use, I'm wondering if this is really a bad thing.)

Also, I watching clips from the episode Nana died, and I wanted to smack Alfie so much. "Oh wah wah you never helped out with Nana and Spencer, and then you just turned up in Walford and blah blah you're totally selfish." Yes, Alfie, because spending his life looking after his brother is totally selfish when obviously he should be looking after your family. Twit.

Babe14

26-07-2006, 12:45

Jake's character personality wise has been spot on and the one thing that has been done correctly,no complaints there at all.
I just feel that he has become a victim like, Johnny, Sonia etc through lack of use and no real storylines, only the "playboy" ones which need to be run with other storyines to keep things interesting.

Don't get my worng I still love Jake to bits:wub:

Babe14

26-07-2006, 12:48

(Although with the characters they use all the time becoming more annoying by the second through crappy storylines and over-use, I'm wondering if this is really a bad thing.)

That is the problem. They who are running the show are destroying characters in several ways. All of which we have just mentioned.

BlackKat

26-07-2006, 12:49

I just feel that he has become a victim like, Johnny, Sonia etc through lack of use and no real storylines

*splutter* Lack of use? Sonia?!?....Are we thinking about the same character? :p

Babe14

26-07-2006, 12:59

*splutter* Lack of use? Sonia?!?....Are we thinking about the same character? :p

o.k, o.k:p you KNOW what I mean:lol:

diamond1

26-07-2006, 14:10

Also, I watching clips from the episode Nana died, and I wanted to smack Alfie so much. "Oh wah wah you never helped out with Nana and Spencer, and then you just turned up in Walford and blah blah you're totally selfish." Yes, Alfie, because spending his life looking after his brother is totally selfish when obviously he should be looking after your family. Twit.

I got that somewhere aswell that was a good episode....I did like what jake said about the scum he's dealt with in the past and how alfie's charm wouldnt of been able to get him out of it.

On one hand alfie had a point because he was angry that jake was going to leave and not come back for christmas (which we all know would of been her last if she hadnt of died) but going to jakes defence he didnt know nana was ill the great alfie moonalways kept telling flipping secrets from everybody,im sure if alfie would of just said she was ill jake would of stayed.

And like you said, Isnt a destructive character like danny in need of attention more than spencer who was'nt any trouble.While alfie was in prison Im sure nana would of been fine looking after spencer and she was,jake wasnt really needed!In fact if jake would of helped out-so would danny and that would of been alot of pressure on nana moon herself

BlackKat

26-07-2006, 17:42

I still can't find Inside Soap in any of the shops - checked both Smiths and Asda and neither had it. So could I ask you a favour d1, if you could type up the exact quote about this:

...however kellie shirley reveas that recent filming suggests more flirting between them

Just that paragraph would do, I wouldn't ask you to type out the full article, lol. :searchme: I'm just wondering if it's speculation or definite.

EE Rocks

26-07-2006, 17:43

I love Jake, he is a great character and it's such a shame he's leaving later this year.:(

diamond1

26-07-2006, 21:15

I still can't find Inside Soap in any of the shops - checked both Smiths and Asda and neither had it. So could I ask you a favour d1, if you could type up the exact quote about this:

Just that paragraph would do, I wouldn't ask you to type out the full article, lol. :searchme: I'm just wondering if it's speculation or definite.

Ok sorry about the delay I have been really busy

from inside soap
but that may not be the end for the latest walford pair to fall in each others arms."i've been filming scenes where its pretty obvios that theres still a spark there"says keillie "so you never knoww what may happen"

BlackKat

26-07-2006, 21:22

Thanks for that d1. :) Obviously it won't go too far as Jake's leaving, but it's nice to know that it won't just be instantly forgotten like Jake/Dawn was.

And welcome to the thread EE Rocks. :)

diamond1

26-07-2006, 21:27

I love Jake, he is a great character and it's such a shame he's leaving later this year.:( oh wow you're new here I didnt realize ,Hi

Thanks for that d1. Obviously it won't go too far as Jake's leaving, but it's nice to know that it won't just be instantly forgotten like Jake/Dawn was.I will be very mad if it is,but if she says its not its not

However I would like to see a love triangle emerge here :)

BlackKat

26-07-2006, 21:30

However I would like to see a love triangle emerge here :)

But why go for love triange...when you can have a threesome! *evil grin*:rotfl: (I..er...assume you mean Dawn/Jake/Carly...)

diamond1

26-07-2006, 21:44

But why go for love triange...when you can have a threesome! *evil grin*:rotfl: (I..er...assume you mean Dawn/Jake/Carly...) BK im glad we're on the right wave length :rotfl:

but thats an excellent idea of dawn/jake/carly why didnt I think of that :lol:

Babe14

27-07-2006, 07:16

Nah Sorry, Just Jake/Carly, I think that they would work well together. Maybe Carly will be involved in Jake's exit? Or maybe once Jake has left she will discover that she is preggy with his baby! :)

BlackKat

27-07-2006, 10:00

I think Jake/Carly would be best in storyline terms...but in terms of hotness, Dawn/Jake/Carly all the way, :rotfl: Plus, if there was a love triangle (which I don't think there will be as Dawn's interested in this Rob guy now) it would be a quick way to solve things. :lol:

EE Rocks

27-07-2006, 11:18

diamond1

27-07-2006, 11:37

Can i just say something- Kellie shirley who plays Carly was asked in Inside soap (last week) who would she'd like Carly to have an affair with? She put Jake,now it looks like it came true. I like Carly and Jake together, much better than her and martin.

yeah say what you want to say:)

to be honest I only think Carly and jake will only ever be about one thing,I dont think jake is capable of a proper realtionship(at least with someone who isnt mentally distuburbed someway or another)he has had a really rough ride of it...anyway with only a few months left theres' no point him actually having a realtionship.

I was thinking perhaps joel beckett should join holby city as a doctor-I read that tina hobly (who plays chrissie) fancys him so if his character is similar to jakes that would be a great couple!

BlackKat

27-07-2006, 11:45

diamond1

27-07-2006, 12:16

I'm wondering with the Kellie Shirley quote that Carly ends up liking Jake more than she bargained for, if it ends up with them both wanting different things from the "relationship." I do agree though that it'll be a very shallow relationship, even if it does continue on past next week.

I have only just finshed watching monday and tuesdays eastenders episodes,what the hell was ruby doing on monday?jake did warn her not to flash her money.I hate that girl more and more even more than sonia

BlackKat

27-07-2006, 12:26

I have only just finshed watching monday and tuesdays eastenders episodes,what the hell was ruby doing on monday?jake did warn her not to flash her money.I hate that girl more and more even more than sonia

I have no idea. Anyone with a braincell can figure out that waving £2,000 in the air is stupid. And even if she didn't...like you said, Jake told her not to. And she did it anyway.

My favourite scene was:
Jake (quietly): Have you still got the money on you.
Ruby (shouting): YES, I'VE STILL GOT THE MONEY!

I think it was just bad writing so she could get mugged, because I don't even think Ruby is that stupid...is anyone?

Babe14

27-07-2006, 12:46

I think it was just bad writing so she could get mugged, because I don't even think Ruby is that stupid...is anyone?

Deano perhaps? It sounds like it was a case of brat attack with Ruby, Jake said no, so she said oh yes I will...

diamond1

27-07-2006, 12:48

I have no idea. Anyone with a braincell can figure out that waving £2,000 in the air is stupid. And even if she didn't...like you said, Jake told her not to. And she did it anyway.

My favourite scene was:
Jake (quietly): Have you still got the money on you.
Ruby (shouting): YES, I'VE STILL GOT THE MONEY!

I think it was just bad writing so she could get mugged, because I don't even think Ruby is that stupid...is anyone?

Actually they are...on club reps last night same thing happened but not quite 2 grand.

Did you see rubys brat attack just because bradley wanted to come and then her saying to stacey shes more indulged with bradley to care about her,is she forgetting when she went out with juley.

Jake should be able to tell her no when she asks for 2 grand to waste-if she wants to blow money away sell the club dont waste money that is being earned by jake and the staff etc.....:angry:

BlackKat

27-07-2006, 20:41

diamond1

28-07-2006, 15:20

Wow, he really knows how to "gently" knock on the door doesn't he, :rotfl:

And, yay, Danny mention *dances* Where Gus said Jake would do the same for his brother (or whatever he said) and Jake just stopped. :(

Also liked Jake saying he wouldn't care that much if it hadn't been Ruby that Juley attacked. Because I do think Jake tends to prioritise the people who are important to him, and not bother so much with others. Also he takes his responsibility for his stray dogs (collective name for Danny, Chrissie and Ruby) very seriously.

And I love Jake being in charge. "Talk to me Gus," and "You're damn right it won't happen again." :wub:

And he got rid of Juley. :cheer: Hopefully for good this time.

I felt a sense of nostalgia in there last night...it was like when danny set fire to jhonnys house and jake begged jhonny not to kill danny,it was like that last night only less spectacular. gus was jake juley was danny and jake was jhonny it was roles reversed (only with jake a gun was pointed at his head:lol: )jake was very fair I thought I felt very sorry for gus I suspect jake did when he said "he dont deseve you" jake had a retro 60's gangster way about him last night he seemed in control and dangerous.

Everything else I think BK has already said best :)

BlackKat

28-07-2006, 17:18

I felt a sense of nostalgia in there last night...it was like when danny set fire to jhonnys house and jake begged jhonny not to kill danny,it was like that last night only less spectacular. gus was jake juley was danny and jake was jhonny it was roles reversed (only with jake a gun was pointed at his head:lol: )jake was very fair I thought I felt very sorry for gus I suspect jake did when he said "he dont deseve you" jake had a retro 60's gangster way about him last night he seemed in control and dangerous.

Everything else I think BK has already said best :)

I felt that too, with the role reversal. Got me wondering how Jake would have dealt with it, if Gus had marched Juley round there. I can't see him giving Juley a slap on the wrist and telling him not to do it again...but also could never see him marching Juley into the woods with a gun to his head.

But I think Jake may have known Gus would get Juley to leave...as that's what he would have done (and did do, during the fire storyline). And that's why he gave an extended deadline. :searchme: (This doesn't fit with Jake going round there early, but I'm not sure why he did that even if he wasn't letting Juley get away, so I'm ignoring it, :p )

BlackKat

28-07-2006, 20:47

You know what I hate most about Ruby? The fact that most of the time she's a whiny, immature brat, but every so often she's actually decent. And you let yourself think that maybe she just might be improving. But then the next time you see her, she's right back where she started.

Like tonight for example -- she admits she's been a prat to Stacey, and she admits that it wasn't Jake's fault for letting her have the money, it was her fault for being stupid.

I was going to comment that when dealing with Ruby, telling her she needs to start being a teenager isn't the best tactic, but then I figured that after her behaviour Monday and Tuesday, acting like a teenager would actually be progress.

But I had to laugh at the comments about Ruby having to grow up to fast, and Ruby not knowing how to be a teenager. Yes, because we so often see evidence of that. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

diamond1

28-07-2006, 21:37

BlackKat

28-07-2006, 21:47

I have not seen EE so ill brace myself for a brat attack,

Like I said, she wasn't that bad. Started off with a brat attack, but calmed down. There wasn't any of the whiny 'stop treating me like a child' crap so I don't know where the mags got that from.

saying that I saw louisa lyttons my space today :lol:

Just a warning, but those things are usually fakes.

Kim

28-07-2006, 21:50

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1126/53f401b4fu2.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=53f401b4fu2.jpg)

diamond1

28-07-2006, 21:51

Like I said, she wasn't that bad. Started off with a brat attack, but calmed down. There wasn't any of the whiny 'stop treating me like a child' crap so I don't know where the mags got that from.

Just a warning, but those things are usually fakes.

dont worry It was around a friends house on their computer I cant be see on vile websites like myspace :)

ok thats the problem with jake,everytime we see jake we see ruby :angry: its getting out of hand does anyone else think kathleen hutchison is undercover on JAKE HEAVEN to wind us up by pairing him with ruby

BlackKat

28-07-2006, 22:01

dont worry It was around a friends house on their computer I cant be see on vile websites like myspace :)

ok thats the problem with jake,everytime we see jake we see ruby :angry: its getting out of hand does anyone else think kathleen hutchison is undercover on JAKE HEAVEN to wind us up by pairing him with ruby

I think the Jake & Ruby storyline could be very good in the hands of some decent writers (which it isn't). I can see some interesting dynamics starting to play out -- Ruby is obviously stepping into the part of Danny, whereas this week Jake could be seen to be in danger of stepping into the part of Johnny. And I think it's also interesting that they don't actually have that much of a history with each other, before Essex they'd had one scene together, but they're drawn together because of links through Johnny and Danny, and they're actually forming a friendship despite the fact that you could understand perfectly if they never wanted to see each other again, because of what it reminds them of.

They definitely need to tone down Ruby's brat attacks, and keep all thoughts of any hook-up so far out of their minds. But I'm still enjoying the storyline (if you could call three scenes a month a storyline.)

diamond1

28-07-2006, 22:07

I am enjoying any scene with jake much more now that I take my special eye drops that dont let me blink so now I dont miss them :lol:

I cant admit that I like ruby shes pushed me too far I cannot stand her and I cannot fathom what male voted her sexiest female that is not a knock on louisa lytton but those brat attacks are very off putting In 2006 lads must be turned on by the spoilt cow look so now rubys gone squiggle is sexiest female 2007:lol:

Pinkbanana

29-07-2006, 00:15

I cant admit that I like ruby shes pushed me too far I cannot stand her and I cannot fathom what male voted her sexiest female that is not a knock on louisa lytton but those brat attacks are very off putting In 2006 lads must be turned on by the spoilt cow look so now rubys gone squiggle is sexiest female 2007:lol:

Squiggle, sexist female 2007?! :rotfl:

Yeah who on earth voted for Rubes as Sexiest female?! I mean the bratty strops and the constant hunching of the shoulders (I really think she needs to work on her posture, she'd probably gain an extra foot in height if she did) and wrinkling of the nose (which suggests she's permanently walking around with dog crap on her shoe) isnt the least bit sexy, is it? Maybe thats were Im going wrong! lol

Bless Jake for caring about her, cause I cant. She's the female Deanoooooo!

Kim

29-07-2006, 10:10

Squiggle, sexist female 2007?! :rotfl:

Yeah who on earth voted for Rubes as Sexiest female?! I mean the bratty strops and the constant hunching of the shoulders (I really think she needs to work on her posture, she'd probably gain an extra foot in height if she did) and wrinkling of the nose (which suggests she's permanently walking around with dog crap on her shoe) isnt the least bit sexy, is it? Maybe thats were Im going wrong! lol

Bless Jake for caring about her, cause I cant. She's the female Deanoooooo!

Deano was in contention for it though. What an anomolous year concerning the awards, how did Richard Fleeshman win it for Corrie? Ruby isn't that bad, it's just her attitude.

Babe14

29-07-2006, 11:04

how did Richard Fleeshman win it for Corrie?

I like him and if I was a lot younger then I would have him as my sex symbol, hence the reason why it was mainly "younger" stars who won and not the older ones.

Without a doubt Jake should of won sexiest male:wub:

Pinkbanana

29-07-2006, 11:23

Ruby isn't that bad, it's just her attitude.

Exactly, I agree!!! She acts like a spoilt brat most of the time, and it grates on the nerves after a while lol :sick:

Babe14

31-07-2006, 07:39

The scene in the office with Jake/Gus was very gangsterish, you could see Jake as Head of the Mob. Very good scene which was ruined by it being abruptly and rudely cut. Joel had just got his last word out and they cut to Kevin on the phone in the caf. They ALWAYS do this to Joel:angry: :angry:
Well done Enders another perfect screw up.
Another scene I enjoyed (and believe me there weren't many this week as I thought EE was total S""" this week) was when Jake was asking Gus if he was O.K, Jake knows what it's like to lose a brother for good and understands what Gus will be going through, how he will be feeling. Could there be a scene sometime in the near future where Jake tells Gus about Danny?? (Of course it will be screwed up by being cut very abruptly at the end)
Very disappointed that we didn't have a Juley/Jake confrontation and that all we had was:
Jake/Gus in the office - Jake telling Gus to bring Juley to him by a certain time or he will phone the police
Jake banging on Gus's/Juley's door givng them mins or he will phone the police.

Of course by Jake dishing the ultimatum out to Gus, not Juley, Gus will naturally warn his brother, which he did and then told him to run, which Juley did. Very poor scripting.
Gus/Juley put me in mind of Jake/Danny. Gus trying to keep his brother on the straight and narrow, protecting him. Juley always screwing up and running away.
I love Jake to pieces (love Joel to bits) but he just doesn't fit in anymore. The writers/producers have ruined him through lack of storylines and espec viewing time/space, they have made it so he is just not a part of things anymore. Ruby is annoying and again another vicitm of character destruction.

diamond1

31-07-2006, 12:14

I love Jake to pieces (love Joel to bits) but he just doesn't fit in anymore. The writers/producers have ruined him through lack of storylines and espec viewing time/space, they have made it so he is just not a part of things anymore. Ruby is annoying and again another vicitm of character destruction.

I do agree with that EE hasnt really got a role for him I dont think there is a conspiracy against him as i said in the past I just dont think the writers have anything in mind for him.Jake is a fantastic actor I hope he dont join the bill or anything because I could see him becoming a good actor in films and serial drama's,

Jake has run out of steam because where the producers put him in a HUGE storyline they keep him out for a few weeks so when he appears on screen again the viewers dont care.Jake was a character people liked because of the demand for his return when he first left I cannot understand why they didnt bother with him.

EE Rocks

31-07-2006, 12:51

I kind of Disagree, I do think he fits perfectly In EE, He is perfect, He hasn't ran out of steam (in my opinion).

EE Is the best British Soap- Corrie and Emmerdale are a load of dross!!!!

diamond1

31-07-2006, 12:55

BlackKat

31-07-2006, 13:01

STACEY: What's up with you? On drugs or something?
RUBY: No. Unless love is a drug, that is...
STACEY: Give me strength. You walked across the Square together, not down the flaming aisle.

I know this should be in web cam discussion but this could be about jake (please god no)

Not necessarily. It could be anyone - my guess is Deano or Sean Slater. And it's much too roll-your-eyes-teeny, whereas I think an actual relationship between Jake and Ruby would be treated much more seriously by Stacey.

Edit: Also, it's only about a week after this snippet:
Filming today: Episode 1073 Tx: 14/09/06
RUBY: I'm sick of you telling me what to do!
JAKE: I am not getting in the sandpit with you, Ruby. The answer's no.
RUBY: I hate you!

Which shows they're still very much as they are at the moment.

diamond1

31-07-2006, 13:03

Not necessarily. It could be anyone - my guess is Deano or Sean Slater. And it's much too roll-your-eyes-teeny, whereas I think an actual relationship between Jake and Ruby would be treated much more seriously by Stacey. Yeah you could be right,its in september so this could be the start of jake and rubys exit

Richie_lecturer

31-07-2006, 13:59

I kind of Disagree, I do think he fits perfectly In EE, He is perfect, He hasn't ran out of steam (in my opinion).

EE Is the best British Soap- Corrie and Emmerdale are a load of dross!!!!
Thank you for your lovely constructive post. :cool:

Babe14

01-08-2006, 09:05

I kind of Disagree, I do think he fits perfectly In EE, He is perfect, He hasn't ran out of steam (in my opinion).

The Actor certainly hasn't run out of steam as Joel is amazing. Unfortunately though Eastenders, being the load of crap it is right now, have held him back big time. Jake was an excellent character with huge potential but all this has been taken away by the reasons I have stated numerous times in this thread. The writers/Producers just haven't been using him correctly as in virtually no screentime and no storylines, yes they have developed his personality beautifully, but inorder for character development to take place they have to be used regularly and have decent scripts. The way I see things, and in my own personal opinion, inspite of the fact that Joel was reinstated, due to public demand, the producers had no intention of making him a part of things as this "New" style Enders had already been decided on. I am really glad that Joel took the decison to leave, although he was given a helping hand, and I really hope that he does well once he gets right away from Easties.
I was all for Jake/Ruby as brother/Sister but this is another "screw up" by enders as they have done it all wrong. Ruby has been turned into a whinging, ungrateful brat whom I can no longer stand and as most of Jake's so called storylines are centred around her he is being dragged down that road of destruction. On a positive note though they aren't making it so Jake bows and scrapes to her all the time which means the character maintains his strength.
My enjoyment of Jake has been ruined by the poor quality of the soap.:angry: :angry: and I am very very angry:angry:

Babe14

01-08-2006, 11:15

Yeah you could be right,its in september so this could be the start of jake and rubys exit

Oh how did I know that they would "screw up" Jake's exit by involving brat. I can just see it now:

Ruby goes into real brat mode with a vengance and decides to teach Jake a lesson by doing something really nasty, backfires, Jake takes the wrap for it and leaves after a final confrontation with brat who then decides to be nice for once. Or Brat does something thinking I'll show him, it backfires, Jake has to sort things out, ends up taking responsibility for it tells Ruby that he's had enough and things just can't go on like this anymore and that one of us has to leave :angry: :angry:

Or on Ruby's 18th birthday he gives her the keys to Scarlets, tells her that its all hers, wishes her luck because she's going to need it and tells her that he's out of here because he's had enough of her childish behaviour..maybe acceptable (only to see Brat in the doodah)

diamond1

01-08-2006, 13:36

Or on Ruby's 18th birthday he gives her the keys to Scarlets, tells her that its all hers, wishes her luck because she's going to need it and tells her that he's out of here because he's had enough of her childish behaviour..maybe acceptable (only to see Brat in the doodah) I like that idea,it would be in character if jake was annoyed with ruby

BlackKat

01-08-2006, 13:44

I just love the BBC EE site description for tonights episode:

Jake and Carly discover their sexual chemistry.

Carly: I was wondering if I could hire the club for a party.
Jake: Yeah, sure, I'll just need a few...uh, what's that thing following us around?
Carly: Oh, that? Don't worry, it's just our sexual chemistry.
Jake: Ah, right. Wanna shag in my office?
Carly: Yeah, go on then.

I imagine that a sexual chemistry looks something like the sprite in the Sprite adverts. :p Maybe a dark red version.

BlackKat

01-08-2006, 20:15

.:SpIcYsPy:.

01-08-2006, 20:19

Now that was hot :rotfl: They are sooo good together.. In a way unbeliavle.. surely as soon as you fall on top of someone you don't go around madly snogging them.. She hardly knew his name :lol:

Had me in stiches but hope this will last longer..

Pinkbanana

01-08-2006, 21:48

him!

And I for one, am very glad with the storylines very special message: It's okay to romp around with a complete stranger on a club floor, as long as you practice safe sex. :p :lol: :lol:

Safe sex? With that amount of broken glass on the floor?!! :rotfl:

Cor blimey, Carly, the lucky gal!

Babe14

02-08-2006, 06:14

Jake and Carly get a :thumbsup: from me. Random, meaningless, shallow...but, oh god, so hot.

Chest! Naked Carly! Carly going for the belt buckle! Shattered glass! Straddling! Ironic cuts to Martin wondering if Carly is still interested in him!

And I for one, am very glad with the storylines very special message: It's okay to romp around with a complete stranger on a club floor, as long as you practice safe sex. :p :lol:

Take that Ross "My scenes are so raunchy, they're like nothing EE has done before" Kemp.

:rotfl: Wow! Hot stuff :wub: :wub: Looks like I'm going to have to take a huge dose of vallium before I watch the omnibus this week:lol:

Also looks like they who run things have actually got something right for once. Joel and ?(Carly) weren't allowed to rehearse this scene and were told to play it out as though they were two strangers who had only just met. All I can say is B***** H*** Joel!!:lol:

Kim

02-08-2006, 11:27

:rotfl: Wow! Hot stuff :wub: :wub: Looks like I'm going to have to take a huge dose of vallium before I watch the omnibus this week:lol:

Also looks like they who run things have actually got something right for once. Joel and ?(Carly) weren't allowed to rehearse this scene and were told to play it out as though they were two strangers who had only just met. All I can say is B***** H*** Joel!!:lol:

Kellie Shirley plays Carly. I'm so going to have to dvd the omnibus, was one of the best episodes in a long time. Can't believe they weren't caught when Kevin and Denise came in, it was obvious something had been going on, just not that!

Babe14

02-08-2006, 11:43

Kellie Shirley plays Carly. I'm so going to have to dvd the omnibus, was one of the best episodes in a long time. Can't believe they weren't caught when Kevin and Denise came in, it was obvious something had been going on, just not that!

Thanks for that:) Can't wait until they have their next session, according to the spoilers Pauline catches them just hope it's not like last nights. Well I do as I can just imagine her face.
Actually looking forward to watching Sunday now:):wub:

As I remember it a couple of weeks ago Kevin/Denise wrecked Fargos Kitchen in pretty much the same way!!

Kim

02-08-2006, 11:59

There's a picture of it in the soaplife thread.

BlackKat

02-08-2006, 12:11

Thanks for that:) Can't wait until they have their next session, according to the spoilers Pauline catches them just hope it's not like last nights. Well I do as I can just imagine her face.
Actually looking forward to watching Sunday now:):wub:

As I remember it a couple of weeks ago Kevin/Denise wrecked Fargos Kitchen in pretty much the same way!!

It's actually been a good week so far -- I have problems with the characterisation of the Denise/Owen storyline, but the drama has been good. And, well, Jake/Carly...*thud*

diamond1

02-08-2006, 12:15

Wow good episode last night,the fight between owen and jake was like godzilla vs king kong,almost seemed like two rhinos locking horns
the mudering brooding bad boy vs the alcoholic wifebeating psycho I liked that scene.

Quite liked last nights episode

I wonder if jake will post the cctv tape to crimewatch (knowing scarlets it will include sound)

There was me just getting over the last steamy "sex scenes" with grant :eek: putting his HAND :eek: on janes leg :eek: I didnt think EE would get any "steamier".:rolleyes:

diamond1

02-08-2006, 12:17

And I for one, am very glad with the storylines very special message: It's okay to romp around with a complete stranger on a club floor, as long as you practice safe sex. :p :lol: :lol:

Take that Ross "My scenes are so raunchy, they're like nothing EE has done before" Kemp. I swear I didnt see that god I feel so stupid posting that last one now

Babe14

02-08-2006, 12:19

It's actually been a good week so far -- I have problems with the characterisation of the Denise/Owen storyline, but the drama has been good. And, well, Jake/Carly...*thud*

Well hopefully things are looking up. Despite my real ranting about Enders there are still areas I enjoy, Jake of course being one of them and I like the fact that we have adult relationships and problems instead of teenage ones(:eek: I have just said something nice about Easties) I just feel things are being handled very badly overall at the mo. Still I will see Sunday. (Well you all know that there will definitely be at least a couple of scenes I will love this week):wub: :wub:

Babe14

02-08-2006, 12:22

Wow good episode last night,the fight between owen and jake was like godzilla vs king kong,almost seemed like two rhinos locking horns
the mudering brooding bad boy vs the alcoholic wifebeating psycho I liked that scene.

Make that three:lol: See give Jake some decent stuff to do, sex, fisty cuffs and Enders takes on a whole new look.

diamond1

02-08-2006, 12:25

See give Jake some decent stuff to do, sex, fisty cuffs and Enders takes on a whole new look its hard to belive they actually remembered joel beckett was on the payroll the ammount of times they use him :lol:

BlackKat

02-08-2006, 12:26

I loved Jake pausing mid-fight just to turn around and ask Carly if she was okay, :lol:

I wonder if jake will post the cctv tape to crimewatch (knowing scarlets it will include sound)

There was me just getting over the last steamy "sex scenes" with grant :eek: putting his HAND :eek: on janes leg :eek: I didnt think EE would get any "steamier".:rolleyes:

Let's hope if he does, he remembers to cut the tape off when the fight ended. "And here we see the attacker run out. And then...oh, my! Erm...cut?...Cut!"

Hee, didn't leave much to the imagination did they.

diamond1

02-08-2006, 12:27

I loved Jake pausing mid-fight just to turn around and ask Carly if she was okay, :lol:

Let's hope if he does, he remembers to cut the tape off when the fight ended. "And here we see the attacker run out. And then...oh, my! Erm...cut?...Cut!"

Hee, didn't leave much to the imagination did they. if he forget to edit it,carly would be walfords new paris hilton

ONE NIGHT IN SCARLETT!!

Babe14

02-08-2006, 12:29

its hard to belive they actually remembered joel beckett was on the payroll the ammount of times they use him :lol:

:lol: This is typical. You watch now I have raked them who run it over the coals they will go and do something nice like give us loads of Jake, complete with more spice and action, all finished off with a wonderful and very happy exit, forcing me to take back some of the critcal things I have said:lol:

diamond1

02-08-2006, 12:31

:lol: This is typical. You watch now I have raked them who run it over the coals they will go and do something nice like give us loads of Jake, complete with more spice and action, all finished off with a wonderful and very happy exit, forcing me to take back some of the critcal things I have said:lol: I didnt watch mondays ao I decided to watch mondays followed by tuesday on teleport replay after mondays episode I was tempted just to watch the OC instead,Im glad I chose eastnders now (1st time in ages I can admit to that)

BlackKat

02-08-2006, 12:32

:lol: This is typical. You watch now I have raked them who run it over the coals they will go and do something nice like give us loads of Jake, complete with more spice and action, all finished off with a wonderful and very happy exit, forcing me to take back some of the critcal things I have said:lol:

Wouldn't let them get too comfy, he disappears from the spoilers after this week.

But last night is definitely something to treasure. :wub:

Babe14

03-08-2006, 08:17

Wouldn't let them get too comfy, he disappears from the spoilers after this week.

You know me :)
I suspect the next time we'll see Jake will be the end of September (I have noticed that they use him now the last two weeks of a month) so that means just in time for his exit which is what exactly???
BRAT I strongly suspect!!:angry: and the usual two week big storyline for him, unlike some who we have week in week out.

Edit: Did I say two week storyline? Thinking about it, Jake's exit has to be to do with BRAT as this "Storyine" with her has been going on for a while, so here we have his exit. Well I will only accept this if he leaves brat in the doodah by telling her he's had enough of her and just dumps the club on her:

Jake: You know what Ruby? I've had it with you and your childish behaviour. It REALLY is time for you to grow up. So here take it, take the lot because I'm sick of the whole thing. And what's more Ruby I'm passed caring..
Ruby: Jake! Jake! You can't do this. You don't mean it..I'm Sorry!!
Jake: Sorry Ruby, but I do. I can't keep worrying about you going off on one all the time because you don't agree with something I've done or said. I have the right to a life too Ruby. O.K it's a bit of a mess at the moment but I'm going to sort it out, starting right now...
Ruby: What do you mean?
Jake: What I mean Ruby is I'm leaving Walford, starting afresh..
Ruby: Jake you can't do this, not to me. You've all I've got..
Jake: Sorry but I have too. I need to lead my own life. You'll be o.k you have Stacey and Bradley and the Slaters. Time to move on Ruby. So I'll see ya Kid and Good luck with the club...
Next Scene outside the club..
Come on Carly let's get out of here...

But last night is definitely something to treasure. :wub:

Looking forward to it:wub:

x Amby x

03-08-2006, 15:09

i think his recent storyline with Carly has given him a bigger character in EastEnders! I thought Joel and Kellie were brilliant on tuesday in Scarlet! lol x

EE Rocks

03-08-2006, 15:23

BlackKat

03-08-2006, 17:48

All i can say is WOW at that sex scene in EE on tuesday:wub: :rotfl: !!!! I didn't half expect it. Are all you Jake Fans- Are you happy with it or not? I am not sure. I mean i can totally understand why Carly went with Jake, I mean Martin isn't exactly fun is he? But on the other side, she didn't even know his name in the cafe or has she had contact with him. It would have been more realistic had they had slowly got to know each other. I really enjoyed Tuesday Episode though.

I think it would have been less realistic if they'd gotten to know each other actually -- or at least, if they'd done the same scene, but with them knowing each other.

It was a mixture of things that led to the sex -- obviously they were on edge from the fight with Owen, they were on top of each other, they had chemistry and they went with the moment. And, I'd add, the fact that they didn't know each other also added to that moment. I think that would have been lost had they known each other, or at least significantly changed. It wasn't meant to be them acting on any emotional feelings toward each other, it was pure basic lust and I found it realistic.

EE Rocks

03-08-2006, 18:35

Oh right! I was just asking cause a lot of people seemed to think it was unrealistic and un-called for.

.:SpIcYsPy:.

03-08-2006, 20:16

Oh, she just had to come and spoil it!! :p Though you'd expect it :rolleyes: Wonder what the plan is..

BlackKat

03-08-2006, 20:23

Oh, she just had to come and spoil it!! :p Though you'd expect it :rolleyes: Wonder what the plan is..

I think it's just "Don't tell Martin." Which is a pretty simple plan so I'm not sure why it was all secretive but...it's EastEnders so. :lol:

Hee at Jake asking if Pauline wanted a look at his *ahem*. And Pauline comparing him to a dog. :rotfl:

Richie_lecturer

03-08-2006, 22:03

EE Rocks

03-08-2006, 22:21

Ha Jake was good tonight- Pauline was right cheeky.

BlackKat

04-08-2006, 13:31

Ruby's babysitter...oh, sorry, Jake...is mentioned in the PO spoilers:

Monday, August 21
Elsewhere, Jake is fuming when Ruby tries to ask Al out on a date.
Tuesday, August 22
Stacey decides to make peace with Ruby. They discuss what happened on holiday and Ruby forgives her. However, Stacey is upset by Jake when he blames her for leading Ruby astray.

EE Rocks

04-08-2006, 13:42

It's really weird, how Jake just looks after Stacey and Ruby nowadays. Like when Stacey was having that argument,the other day he just toook her away and now he is very, very pretective of Ruby escpecially.:heart:

diamond1

04-08-2006, 15:25

just saw last nights episode im laughing so hard at jakes comment to pauline

I have something most men dont do you want to see it?haha im still laughing

BlackKat

04-08-2006, 16:27

just saw last nights episode im laughing so hard at jakes comment to pauline
haha im still laughing

What did you think of the references to Jake & Dawn? I'm wondering if they didn't actually drop the ball with Jake/Dawn like we thought -- maybe they were intending on taking it this way the whole time, to have the animosity between them?

Also felt Carly was a bit naive, and is maybe a bit too smitten with Jake -- the way she told Dawn that she knew Jake better than she did, when actually she doesn't know him that well, or even at all.

BlackKat

04-08-2006, 20:47

I actually liked the last scene of them. I thought it was going to be really stupid, like them kissing them and it being awkward, but it was actually kinda sweet and sad in a way. It was a good piece of directing too -- the music has stopped, the lights are back on...and it's over. :(

Oh, and apparently the sex scene on Tuesday got complaints. There's a thread on DS about it, Kate Harwood gave a standard "Sorry if you were offended." :lol:

Edit: Full report on complaints here: Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/news/2006/08/03/35409.shtml) Her explanation of what the storyline was about is a load of bs though (IMO) as I didn't think it showed any of that: and leaves both characters regretting their impulse and what took place, and Their fleeting passion does not last, instead both characters suffer the consequences of their impetuous actions and their behaviour is not condoned by any of their friends and neighbours. In succumbing to a brief moment of genuine but misleading passion, they betray their friends and, in turn, realise they have been betrayed by their own momentary feelings. :searchme: I didn't read the storyline that way, I don't think there were any regrets from either of them.

I suppose though she has to say something to back up the scenes other than "They are two very good-looking people, and it was hot," which is what I took away from the storyline. :p

Pinkbanana

05-08-2006, 02:33

So 32 peeps complained about the sizzling sex scenes (a bit of alliteration there!) out of the millions who watched it. That’s not really a huge number of complainers when all is considered.

I do agree that it wasn’t the episode to watch with the family (young children, grand parents, or family pets – my goldfish, Bruce, was most disturbed:eek: ), which I guess you should be able to do as a family pre water shed.

Though I thought if viewers were going to complain (to ol’ Terry Wogan at Points of View) about anything in Enders this week, then it would have been over the scenes where Owen was punching seven bells out of Denise! Funny ol’ world eh!:rolleyes:

The Jake and Carly business was done, I think, for shock value, so they must have been expecting some come back. Hence Kate Harwood with her statement at the ready, about not glamourising casual sex! :lol:

Babe14

05-08-2006, 08:35

Oh, and apparently the sex scene on Tuesday got complaints. There's a thread on DS about it, Kate Harwood gave a standard "Sorry if you were offended." :lol:

Edit: Full report on complaints here: Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/news/2006/08/03/35409.shtml) Her explanation of what the storyline was about is a load of bs though (IMO) as I didn't think it showed any of that: and leaves both characters regretting their impulse and what took place, and Their fleeting passion does not last, instead both characters suffer the consequences of their impetuous actions and their behaviour is not condoned by any of their friends and neighbours. In succumbing to a brief moment of genuine but misleading passion, they betray their friends and, in turn, realise they have been betrayed by their own momentary feelings. :searchme: I didn't read the storyline that way, I don't think there were any regrets from either of them.

I suppose though she has to say something to back up the scenes other than "They are two very good-looking people, and it was hot," which is what I took away from the storyline. :p

So now violence is being good and Sex is bad. Surely the two go hand in hand?

I haven't seen the famous scene yet but from what I have read I get the impression that it was the fight which triggered the chemistry between them. How are they betraying their friends exactly? Both single aren't they and entitled to have "fun" if they so choose.

Tannie

05-08-2006, 12:44

Babe14

05-08-2006, 12:54

Yeah surley sex and violence is the same thing well not really but some people take it as a bad thing. But then most people who read telly guides knew it was going to happen so why bother watching or letting your younger children watch it if your just going to complain to the bbc about the content of it? if that makes any sense at all.

It's up to parents at the end of the day to vet what younger children watch. Sex and violence is all around you and it's not as though it was porno or anything x rated. Anyway before I can comment honestly I'll have to watch it tomorrow and see for myself.

i don't think dawn really got over the bet, but then i also had a feeling that she was jelous and still like Jake althrough i think that was just me really.

Dawn likes Jake you can tell by the way she's always flirting with him. I can see Dawn making a move on Jake sometime soon, hopefully Jake will stick to Carly.

Babe14

05-08-2006, 12:57

Ruby's babysitter...oh, sorry, Jake...is mentioned in the PO spoilers:
:lol:

Elsewhere, Jake is fuming when Ruby tries to ask Al out on a date.

Think this maybe the start of the build up to Ruby's exit and possibly something to do with Jake's exit

Stacey decides to make peace with Ruby. They discuss what happened on holiday and Ruby forgives her. However, Stacey is upset by Jake when he blames her for leading Ruby astray.

Oh no Brat strkes again!! She's infecting everyone with the disease even Jakey!!

diamond1

06-08-2006, 18:27

so jake and carly are over it seems,why did he dump her all of a sudden?
even if he isnt after a relationship he can still have casual sex wouldnt that make sense.

oh well I can see him and dawn as a couple still she fancys him a bit still you could tell from last weeks episodes

Babe14

07-08-2006, 07:29

Fantastic! Lovely and tanned,(:wub: Body) still has the new hairdo and still an amazing actor.:wub: The sex scene was very well done. Carly/Jake are great together and I couldn't understand why they decided to end things, well after a few kisses, nice scene that, lights out, music stopped and just the spotlight on the two of them, highlighting the fact that the "party" was now over but they were still in the spotlight....
Although I'm all for Carly/Jake to continue their "casual Sex" I think it's a good thing that it's stopped there as this would become boring week in week out.

As for Dawn, yes she definitely fancies the boxers off of Jake but she would be all wrong for him, too stropy, too serious and she can't laugh that bet off. Whereas Carly is easy going and I think she wouldn't keep harping on about a bet, instead I think she would get her own back and then forget it, move on and then seduce Jake:lol:
Martin is another who needs to move on and stop being stropy, it's over between him and Carly, she organised that party for him as a mate it doesn't mean she wants to get things on with him again.

I noticed during that passion scene that when the glasses were falling off the shelves, Jake was actually hit by one or a piece of flying glass as his head was bleeding but he wasn't worried about that!:lol: Also whilst Jake was undoing Carly's bra he had somehting in his hand, at first I thought maybe it was a box of matches, very appropriate, flames of passion, on fire, burning with desire, but then I came to the conclusion that maybe it was a box of condoms:lol:

Very good fight scene between Jake and Owen with Carly joining in.

I liked the way Carly looked across the bar to Jake for help when Owen started attacking her, who instantly came to her rescue and told Owen to leave. Also the scenes in the Vic where the two of them kept looking at one another cheekily and seductively, flirty:wub:

Loved it when Jake slid down the display cabinet, the look on his face was lovely, full of passion, desire...Also after they had sex and were behind the bar when Denise/Kevin walked in, Jake reassuring Carly with his "It's O.K." and then both of them giggling like two naughty teenagers who had just been caught in the act..

Absolutely loved Jake/Pauline espec

"Well Pauline I've got something most men haven't. Do you want to have a look":rotfl: :rotfl: Absolutely hilarious.
Followed by Carly's "Jake!"

Jake's character has become even stronger now, just a real shame he hasn't been used more and had bigger storylines to go with these brilliant mini ones.
Carly's character has become much stronger and we're seeing a different side to her.

Also during this week we have touched on Jake's past again and a couple of times I felt that he was thinking about Danny. His past was reflected more in his face than anything this week, I.E Owen

Best of all no BRAT!!

My impression of this sex scene was two people had just been invovled in a fight, they ended up on top of one another, looked into one anothers eyes, still being fuelled with the excitement and rush of adrenaline from the fight, lead to spontaneous sex.
So my comment on Kate Harewood's statement is B""""""" as usual.

Joel/Kellie very well done.

BlackKat

07-08-2006, 10:46

Also after they had sex and were behind the bar when Denise/Kevin walked in, Jake reassuring Carly with his "It's O.K." and then both of them giggling like two naughty teenagers who had just been caught in the act..

I loved the giggling - I can't remember ever seeing him so carefree before. Even with his other one-night stands (Ferne, Beth) he was still quite moody about it.

Absolutely loved Jake/Pauline espec

"Well Pauline I've got something most men haven't. Do you want to have a look":rotfl: :rotfl: Absolutely hilarious.
Followed by Carly's "Jake!"

I've been doing screencaps of last week (they'll be up soon) and his expressions throughout that scene are hilarious, even before he says anything. :lol:

Babe14

07-08-2006, 11:07

Oh great I love your screen caps, again the usual :angel:

Jake did a lot of facial expressions this week and in some of the scenes something wasn't mentioned but you knew where he was going or what he was thinking by his facial expression. This is why I think on a couple of occassions this week something happened or was mentioned and he thought about Danny for a second or two. Same when he was having that second chat to Owen, where Owen was "grovelling" to Jake you could tell by his face that he may of been connecting Owen to his own circumstances when he was younger, his dad.
Liked the way Jake asked Owen if he was hungary and told him that he had a sandwich:lol: How ungrateful was Owen, he nicked a bottle of Vodka and legged it..
Jake really has a lovely carefree attitude at the moment and whenever a crisis comes to haunt him, Brat/Owen etc he has that look on his face which says something like, not again or what is it with me having to sort people out all the time, getting a bit sick of it..
Also I love him being happy and mischevious. His womanising has been done correctly (yes I'm being nice and paying them whom I critise very heavily a compliment) he hasn't been turned into Danny or a womaniser as such, more of a "Gigolo", Jack the lad type.
I hope that they don't try to recreate this "casual sex" scenareo with Dawn as it would spoil it. Carly/Jake was something very special, such a shame it can never last..they would of been an ideal Enders couple..

Jumping to theory mode
With regards to Al I'm just wandering if he could be someone from Jake's past, one of these "all sorts" we've heard Jake mention. To me this would explain why Jake is fuming when Ruby asks Al out and also could be something to do with her exit and the return of Johnny. I.E Al seeking revenge.Or even be connected to Jake's exit.

Babe14

07-08-2006, 11:12

I loved the giggling - I can't remember ever seeing him so carefree before. Even with his other one-night stands (Ferne, Beth) he was still quite moody about it.

This time there was no Brat to interupt and no guilt trips. The sex scene has to be one of the best I've seen, it even beats the Sharon/Dennis one where they wrecked the flat and the Phil/Sharon one where they were bouncing off the Vic's walls. As for the Grant/Jane one well that was nothing.

.:SpIcYsPy:.

07-08-2006, 11:12

Who is Brat? =| *hides in shame of not knowing :ninja:*

Babe14

07-08-2006, 11:13

Who is Brat? =| *hides in shame of not knowing :ninja:*

Ruby it's her new name we have given her.

BlackKat

07-08-2006, 11:19

I hope that they don't try to recreate this "casual sex" scenareo with Dawn as it would spoil it. Carly/Jake was something very special, such a shame it can never last..they would of been an ideal Enders couple..

I think Jake does like Carly more than he did the others -- the way he got rid of Beth and Ferne was very casually, he didn't really care what they thought, but the scene where he ended things with Carly was different.

I loved the flirting scene in the cafe on Thursday's ep -- with Jake pouring the sugar in his tea/coffee and Carly saying "You'll get fat." "I'll find a way of burning it off then." That's another great screencap moment - only Jake could make drinking a cup of tea/coffee sexy, :lol:

Jumping to theory mode
With regards to Al I'm just wandering if he could be someone from Jake's past, one of these "all sorts" we've heard Jake mention. To me this would explain why Jake is fuming when Ruby asks Al out and also could be something to do with her exit and the return of Johnny. I.E Al seeking revenge.Or even be connected to Jake's exit.

Al is actually do to with Sean - they're bitter enemies or something. However, Jake could know him. I think it's more likely though that he just recognises the "type," and knows that he's dangerous.

Babe14

07-08-2006, 11:47

I think Jake does like Carly more than he did the others -- the way he got rid of Beth and Ferne was very casually, he didn't really care what they thought, but the scene where he ended things with Carly was different.

They had spontaneous casual sex together which was exciting and passionate but at the end of the day they still had the respect there, whereas with the others like you said Jake couldn't of cared less, he had his pleasure and that was it.

Which reminds me he said it "My pleasure":wub:

I loved the flirting scene in the cafe on Thursday's ep -- with Jake pouring the sugar in his tea/coffee and Carly saying "You'll get fat." "I'll find a way of burning it off then." That's another great screencap moment - only Jake could make drinking a cup of tea/coffee sexy, :lol:
He makes anything sound sexy, even a scene with Pauline:rotfl:

Al is actually do to with Sean - they're bitter enemies or something. However, Jake could know him. I think it's more likely though that he just recognises the "type," and knows that he's dangerous.
Thanks, I couldn't find anything out about Al, so I was just taking a stab in the dark and trying to work out how everything could be linked up together and why Jake would be annoyed. (Plus I like trying to create a bit of drama for Jake:rotfl: )
Good news as I thought for a second they might be going down that dreaded route....I just hope that Jake isn't going to get caught up in the middle of the feuding and having to leave because of it.

diamond1

07-08-2006, 12:04

This time there was no Brat to interupt and no guilt trips. The sex scene has to be one of the best I've seen, it even beats the Sharon/Dennis one where they wrecked the flat and the Phil/Sharon one where they were bouncing off the Vic's walls. As for the Grant/Jane one well that was nothing. Can I just add that eastenders cut alot of sharon and dennis's first time out because it was so "sexy" but the sex scens with jake and carly where really spot on lol and they endorsed safe sex for those less informed,

and going back this is making up for the "steamy"passion between grant and jane.It's like we have never seen someone touch anothers leg before(we're not all 14 kate:lol: )

but as a subscriber to Jake heaven I give jakes performance 10/10 (see you in september jake:lol: )

Babe14

07-08-2006, 12:31

Can I just add that eastenders cut alot of sharon and dennis's first time out because it was so "sexy" but the sex scens with jake and carly where really spot on lol and they endorsed safe sex for those less informed,

With Jake/Carly we had cuts to Martin/Pauline to dampen things down slightly (very appropriate though):lol:

and going back this is making up for the "steamy"passion between grant and jane.It's like we have never seen someone touch anothers leg before(we're not all 14 kate:lol: )

but as a subscriber to Jake heaven I give jakes performance 10/10 (see you in september jake:lol: )

:rotfl: Well I'm sure it was a pack of condoms he had in his hand whilst he was undoing Carly's bra (:lol: Started to type Jane then) shall have a closer look later

only 10/10? I'd give him 50/10 and Carly wasn't the only one who had an adrenaline rush with a racing pulse :wub: :wub:

diamond1

07-08-2006, 12:36

With Jake/Carly we had cuts to Martin/Pauline to dampen things down slightly (very appropriate though):lol:

:rotfl: Well I'm sure it was a pack of condoms he had in his hand whilst he was undoing Carly's bra (:lol: Started to type Jane then) shall have a closer look later

only 10/10? I'd give him 50/10 and Carly wasn't the only one who had an adrenaline rush with a racing pulse :wub: :wub:

I think it happened perfect...we was all 'enjoying' kevins' feud with owen then we see owen pop in scarletts for a pint then (surpise) a fist fight followed by a sex scene that actually was sexy...wait is this eastenders:eek: !!!

BlackKat

07-08-2006, 12:40

:rotfl: Well I'm sure it was a pack of condoms he had in his hand whilst he was undoing Carly's bra (:lol: Started to type Jane then) shall have a closer look later

You definitely see him get the condom out. I think he gets it out his wallet though.

Babe14

07-08-2006, 12:40

I think it happened perfect...we was all 'enjoying' kevins' feud with owen then we see owen pop in scarletts for a pint then (surpise) a fist fight followed by a sex scene that actually was sexy...wait is this eastenders:eek: !!!

I have to admit I was very impressed. Given the fact that I've been critising Easties you know that it must of been good for me to say that. So bugger the critics for the heavy critism they have given Jake/Carly. (Respectfully meant as everyone is entitled to an opinion)
Joel could very easily carry off a role in a film as a character who has spontaneous sex. Tom Cruise/Bruce Willis/Patrick Swayze/ Brad Pitt eat your hearts out:lol: (Personally I think that our Joel is a bit of a naughty boy on the qt:lol: )

Babe14

07-08-2006, 12:43

You definitely see him get the condom out. I think he gets it out his wallet though.

Thanks, glad I did actually see something in his hand.
See promoting safe sex, surely that can't be wrong. Just remembered a while back I mentioned in this thread something about how I hope Jake is wearing his wellies whilst paddling or something along those lines:rotfl:

diamond1

07-08-2006, 12:47

(Personally I think that our Joel is a bit of a naughty boy on the qt:lol: ) now if we could only convince Kate harwood we would be laughing

Babe14

07-08-2006, 12:53

now if we could only convince Kate harwood we would be laughing

We already are, aren't we at her, espec her statements which are a load of B/t and the crap she produces on Easties:lol:

diamond1

07-08-2006, 12:57

We already are, aren't we at her, espec her statements which are a load of B/t and the crap she produces on Easties:lol: when you say b/t you dont mean characters like deano and squiggle surely:eek: I feel all kate harwoods ideas have had a load of depth to them look at naomis lesbian story,woman turns up drinks alot of wine in the space of 3 months and turns into a lesbian-so much depth to that storyline its unreal

rule 2 of jake heaven-plenty of sarcasim

BlackKat

07-08-2006, 22:53

Here's the screencaps. Two weeks worth (Ruby's mugging and last week.)

Ruby gets mugged
Monday (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Monday%2024th%20July/)
Tuesday (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Tuesday%2025th%20July/)
Thursday (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Thursday%2027th%20July/)
Friday (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Friday%2028th%20July/)

Carly and Jake
Tuesday (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Tuesday%201st%20August/)
Thursday (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Thursday%203rd%20August/)
Friday (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Friday%204th%20August/)

Please don't repost anywhere. :)

This (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Thursday%203rd%20August/?action=view&current=PDVD_010.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch10) is what I meant when I said about the cafe scene. :wub: Also like this (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Monday%2024th%20July/?action=view&current=PDVD_023.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch23) one, as I think we've all felt that way about Ruby at some time or another. :p :lol:

Babe14

08-08-2006, 07:02

This (http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/katscreencaps/Thursday%203rd%20August/?action=view&current=PDVD_010.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch10) is what I meant when I said about the cafe scene. :wub:

:wub: :wub: :love: :wub: :love: is all I can say.

Jake showed that b/d streak in him in the caf scene when he asked Carly if she wanted to go to his place and she turned him down because she had to work "In that case I'll see you around":love: Also again in the club when they were putting on an act for Pauline, "Get over it" whilst snatching his hands quickly away from the bottles of beer. At first I thought eh? what's going on...

I just adore his personality, Joel portrays it beautifully. Jake has changed alot and has become a much better and stronger character.
I definitely think that he is right with Carly and think he wroks better with her than he did with Chrissie everything is just so natural, whereas with Chrissie it didn't always flow right and Jake's character became weak.

Also like this one, as I think we've all felt that way about Ruby at some time or another.

That is exactly how I feel about Ruby now all the time..

Going back to the Pauline scene in the club when Jake made that naughty comment to Pauline, I loved his body language as well as his facial expressions, he was being really cheeky and sarcy. The way he walked towards her in that I suppose slightly rebellious, sarcy way, very funny.

BlackKat

08-08-2006, 09:33

Jake showed that b/d streak in him in the caf scene when he asked Carly if she wanted to go to his place and she turned him down because she had to work "In that case I'll see you around":love: Also again in the club when they were putting on an act for Pauline, "Get over it" whilst snatching his hands quickly away from the bottles of beer. At first I thought eh? what's going on...

I thought he actually said "Get it over with," with regards to letting Martin down. :searchme:

I just adore his personality, Joel portrays it beautifully. Jake has changed alot and has become a much better and stronger character.

I agree with this -- I also like that (for once) you can see why he's changed, and you can also see his old personality peeking through at times.

Edit: From DS: Thursday, August 17 - Elsewhere, Jake plans a 'date in the dark' event at the club.

Babe14

08-08-2006, 10:29

:p
I thought he actually said "Get it over with," with regards to letting Martin down.

That would make more sense as to why he suddenly went all moody. (Blame the sex scene:lol: )

Also I loved it when Jake told Carly he'd just have to have her whenever he wanted:lol: I really like this real assertiveness that Jake now has to his character, the "masterfulness".:love:

Edit: From DS: Thursday, August 17 - Elsewhere, Jake plans a 'date in the dark' event at the club.

When I read about this I thought are we going to have another Jake scene?. I know Gary goes and gets a shock, could we have another Jake/Carly encounter? I can just picture the scene now:p :o

Well THEY are really pushing the boat out with Jake, personally I think that this is their revenge on us, giving us lots of Jake to torment us because we know he won't be around much longer:crying:

Edit: Also liked:
Owen: "Sorry I had a go at you... etc..etc."
Jake: It's o.k. I've dealt with worse"
Owen: "Like What"
Jake: "Like none of your business":lol:

BlackKat

08-08-2006, 17:52

When I read about this I thought are we going to have another Jake scene?. I know Gary goes and gets a shock, could we have another Jake/Carly encounter? I can just picture the scene now:p :o

I think it's Minty that has the shock (he finds SJ's 'brother' naked on her couch) and Garry just finds a partner there and is surpised at who it is. (Don't know who it is though.)

I like that we're seeing Jake come up with new ideas for the club - the strippers...sorry, "exotic dancers", (:p) and now this. He was also advertising a world cup event but we never saw what that was. I think he does enjoy running the club, and isn't just doing it for Ruby.

Babe14

09-08-2006, 10:14

I like that we're seeing Jake come up with new ideas for the club - the strippers...sorry, "exotic dancers", (:p) and now this. He was also advertising a world cup event but we never saw what that was. I think he does enjoy running the club, and isn't just doing it for Ruby.

Don't forget the "exotic" lap dancing, wall bouncing and table top "manouvers":lol:

I like the fact that we are seeing Jake approx every 2 weeks (even though it is a bit too late) this way he is not in our faces all the time and doesn't become boring, but he does need a "proper" storyine.

diamond1

09-08-2006, 12:27

maybe jake and garry meet each other in the dating place? (sorry bit late with my answe there )and then garry minty and jake could be a comedy trio jake being the moody one out the bunch who shakes his head everytime they do something comical:searchme: .

But with Sean slater coming soon I wonder what EE will do with jake because too moody bad boy womanizers in one square (and with the rumors of ruby with sean) maybe we will find one last good storyline with jake.

I think EE is giving us their revenge for -the fans- backlash over when he first got sacked from EE they're like "have this" *sticks fingers up* and give us another brat attack with ruby everytime we see jake thus meaning everytime we see jake in the spoilers or tv listings we fear the beast known as ruby allen finding yet another thing to really whine over when it comes to air time.Im surprised Ruby didnt burst in on carly and jake and start crying that she cant join in "its my turn" I can hear her going :lol:

BlackKat

15-08-2006, 20:19

Bad news, I'm afraid.

Just read the mags for next week (apart from Inside Soap which I couldn't find again)

Basically, Ruby asks Al out twice, he turns her down, she gets drunk, Jake has to deal with drunken Brat (sober her up etc) and then she accuses him of fancying her. *sigh* (This timeline may be a little off, it's patched together from about 10 different TV mags.)

So, before flipping out (not a criticism I near flipped out when I read it) bear in mind it only says she accuses him, not that he does.

I'm thinking this may be the Monday episode, and then the following episode where Jake accuses Stacey of leading Ruby astray (from PO spoilers) will be about Ruby getting drunk. This, again, sounds like he's just annoyed about it, rather than it being the truth.

Also apparently she develops a crush on Sean later on, which may be her exit storyline (and may also be Jake's, as Sean's only interested in her money which I doubt Jake will be happy about), so it doesn't look like there will actually be a Jake/Ruby storyline.

But her accusing him is too close to it for my liking, and, to be blunt, sucks monkey balls.

Bad week when the best case scenario is that Ruby is just have a drunken Brat attack. :angry: :angry:

Babe14

16-08-2006, 11:32

Basically, Ruby asks Al out twice, he turns her down, she gets drunk, Jake has to deal with drunken Brat (sober her up etc) and then she accuses him of fancying her. *sigh* (This timeline may be a little off, it's patched together from about 10 different TV mags.)

I would think that it's most likely to be a brat attack and worse case scenario I think would be Ruby fancying Jake, as she seems to be going for anything in trousers!!!:lol: Reason I can see for this is the craving for affection. I hope and think that we will most likely see Jake reacting rahter shocked to the very idea of it and hopefully being very annoyed with Ruby for even thinikng such a thing.

I'm thinking this may be the Monday episode, and then the following episode where Jake accuses Stacey of leading Ruby astray (from PO spoilers) will be about Ruby getting drunk. This, again, sounds like he's just annoyed about it, rather than it being the truth.

More than likely.:)

BlackKat

21-08-2006, 20:56

No drunk Ruby yet, so I'm guessing that's tomorrow. Goody. :thumbsdow

And Jake was not so much fuming about her asking Al out, he was more..."Ruby, don't be an idiot," which is pretty much the default setting when Ruby is around.

Meh. Not really good or bad tonight, seeing as he just did what he does most episodes (Tells Ruby not be an idiot.) So..meh.

Babe14

22-08-2006, 09:41

BlackKat

22-08-2006, 10:15

Maybe I'll give Enders a miss again next week:) Silly me I went out Sunday and forgot to set the DVD:lol: :rolleyes: I just can't be a**** with it anymore. I might leave it now until Jake's exit and then just leave it.

I don't blame you, lol. :lol: I'll post here if there's anything wildly thrilling concerning Jake so you'll know if you want to watch.

Last week was nothing special. He basically went to the dating in the dark thing to see what it was like, if it would work at the club etc. Garry tagged along. Jake made a few sarky comments at him. And then the girl Garry was talking to turned out to be Carly. (They found out because Jake's girl was a smoker so he lit a match for her.) Then Carly looked a bit embarrased, there was a wee bit of a look between her and Jake. And that was it....Oh, and then Friday Garry told Minty about it and explained it by saying Jake had been talking to Carly about it as well.

Babe14

22-08-2006, 11:36

I don't blame you, lol. :lol: I'll post here if there's anything wildly thrilling concerning Jake so you'll know if you want to watch.

Aww that's really nice of you, thank you:)

I still love the character to pieces but I think it's the Brat that I can't be bothered with anymore, (See they have spoilt my enjoyment of Jake:angry: ) where she's concerned things just go round and round on that Bloomin merry go round they have!!

Last week was nothing special. He basically went to the dating in the dark thing to see what it was like, if it would work at the club etc. Garry tagged along. Jake made a few sarky comments at him. And then the girl Garry was talking to turned out to be Carly. (They found out because Jake's girl was a smoker so he lit a match for her.) Then Carly looked a bit embarrased, there was a wee bit of a look between her and Jake. And that was it....Oh, and then Friday Garry told Minty about it and explained it by saying Jake had been talking to Carly about it as well.

Thank you for that:)

(You really must post more in the Emmerdale thread, you can debate with me about Andy/Jo):lol: (As you may of noticed I tend to live there now):lol:

I think that Joel may of left Endes now or it is very near, going by filming and screen time.

BlackKat

22-08-2006, 20:28

Recap for Babe14: Ruby whines to Jake because Stacey was moody on holiday. Jake says he could have told her that before she went. He goes to the cash and carry to get vodka. (Not for himself, because they were running out at the club. Although with Brat's whining I wouldn't blame him if it was for himself. :p ) Ruby and Stacey talk, get drunk on champagne, and Ruby flirts with Al.

Al rejects her, she starts whining at him. Jake comes back and tells Al to go because there's a private function on, which Ruby neglected to mention to Al. Al whines because Ruby lied about the bar being open and is just being generally annoying, and then goes when Jake tells him to get out again. Ruby thanks Jake. (Not sure why, Al wasn't doing anything other than being there which was her fault in the first place.)

Jake bitched at Stacey for leading Ruby astray (the getting drunk and flirting with Al), and told Ruby to think for herself more often. Stacey went off upset. Ruby made to go after her, but Jake told she wasn't going anywhere until she'd cleaned the mess up.

So Jake apparently thinks Ruby cannot think for herself, when cannot think at all would be more like it. The scene of him telling Ruby to clear her mess up was okay, because any scene where he bitches at Ruby is okay in my book, but still pretty meh.

Oh, and Monday episode Ruby brought presents for Mo and Charlie to say thank you for all they've done for her. Jake apparently does not get a present. Not even a keyring. I mean, I know he's getting paid for running the club where as Mo and Charlie aren't getting paid for taking her in...but still. Brat.

Babe14

23-08-2006, 08:02

Thank you:) So not a lot really happened, poor Jake (Joel) just got the same old lines to say again:rolleyes: Brat was being Brat, how selfish of her not to get Jake anything, I really hope that his exit will involve him just dumping her in it with the club along with a nice slap would be very pleasurable to watch, a really hard one hee hee. I agree Ruby just cannot think full stop, you need a brain to do that:lol:

diamond1

24-08-2006, 14:56

Happy birthday Bk!! :)

I am back off hols today, have I missed much in the last week......:searchme: I know ruby starts to think jake fancies her this week sometime :sick: stupid little girl but most of this week will be about sean,so Im not sure how much airtime jake will get this week

BlackKat

24-08-2006, 20:51

Happy birthday Bk!! :)

Thank you. :)

I am back off hols today, have I missed much in the last week......:searchme: I know ruby starts to think jake fancies her this week sometime :sick: stupid little girl but most of this week will be about sean,so Im not sure how much airtime jake will get this week

Not missed a great deal Jake wise. Um...everything else the WCCT storyline this week has been hilarious (in a good way) but that's all that's stood out for me.

Tonights episode for Babe14: Erm, not sure what to say. Jake seemed to find the whole idea (him fancying Ruby) hilarious (he was mainly trying not to laugh), and said she was too young for him. So it was okay from his POV.

But it was halfway between icky and hilarious from Ruby's. First all of she was going on about everyone on holiday finding her sexy, and that she liked it. And then she asked if he fancied her. To which he said "I think you're still drunk." And then she was all "That's why you're always looking after me and being good to me." (Ick! Serious issues there I think.) "If you fancy me all you've gotta do is say."

Anyway, then she was all. "I'm gonna go have a shower and get changed, and then I'll come back and we'll see." And Jake said "Yeah, okay, whatever," (still trying not to laugh.) And that was it, as when she went back home Sean was there, and she never went back to the club.

I'd say it was mainly because she was drunk. And it was not as bad as it could have been but I don't know why they even put the scene in there.

Edit: I also have to say despite my annoyance at her brat attacks, I still don't mind Ruby compared to how she was before. I think she's also become a victim of the writing (repetitive scenes, just having constant brat attacks etc) and if they actually tried she could be a good character.

Babe14

25-08-2006, 07:09

:lol: I can just picture Jake trying not to laugh.

I agree Ruby has become another "victim" if they had handled Jake/Ruby how we had suggested" then it would of worked, I also feel that Jake has become a victim too, apart from his character personality which is spot on. They have Jake "playing" the field right, so far not going too ott with it by having every epsiode where he is in bed with someone.
Ruby/Jake has it's moments but overall I can no longer stand Ruby.

Thanks again:)

Maybe I'll record it and then just flick through it:lol:

BlackKat

25-08-2006, 15:38

Thanks again:)

Maybe I'll record it and then just flick through it:lol:

You're welcome. :D

If you do record, check out the WCCT storyline (mainly the scenes from Tuesday and Thursday after Jane has got there, Monday was a bit slow going) as well as the Jake scenes, to see if you like it as I found it surprisingly good. OTT and not to be taken seriously, but in a good way. :)

PO spoilers: (Everytime I type then then read it back I read it as "pi$$ed off spoilers. Then again, sometimes that fits, lol.)

Tuesday 12 September
Meanwhile, Charlie and Sean are still at loggerheads and Ruby is still trying to catch the newcomer's eye. She asks Jake for advice on men and blames him when Sean turns her down. Sean has already tired of family life and decides to leave Walford, but he reconsiders when Stacey lets slip that Ruby is rich.

Thursday 14 September
Elsewhere, Sean tells Ruby that he'll have to leave if he can't find a job. Ruby offers him a position as a barman at the club. Jake is not keen, but Sean soon charms him into agreeing to a trial run.

Friday 15 September
Elsewhere, Sean arrives at the club for his trial. Jake is still sceptical about hiring him, but he is impressed at the way he handles things when a fight breaks out.

This webcam snippet is from this week:
Episode 1073 Tx: 14/09/06
RUBY: I'm sick of you telling me what to do!
JAKE: I am not getting in the sandpit with you, Ruby. The answer's no.
RUBY: I hate you!

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I think this is a wait and see week. Could be bad (Ruby blaming Jake about Sean turning her down :rolleyes: , Sean's charm working on Jake.:nono: ) Could be alright (Jake's still sceptical even after Sean's charmed him into the trial run, and Ruby asking Jake's advice on men could be amusing if written right. Yeah, I know, wishful thinking.:rolleyes: )

Babe14

26-08-2006, 07:32

They are spoiling us with Jake now! (Even though it's not that brilliant)
Maybe Sean will have something to do with Jake leaving, Jake could end up getting caught up in the middle of whatever is going on between Sean/Al or pushed out of the club?
Afterall Jake's exit will have to start building soon!

Thanks for all your help:)

P.S :rotfl: at PO spoilers and your comment at the beginning.

Babe14

28-08-2006, 08:49

Enjoyed Easties this week epsec the WCCT stuff, very funny:)

I really like Rob and Al.

However very disappointed at the Jake scenes (no critism on Joel as he can only work with what he is given) Brat and Jake aren't working. Every time Jake is on with brat things fall flat for me, but when he is on with other characters things are good. However I did like the confrontation with Al when he asked him to leave the club, the look said it all, also the scene with brat before Jake went to the C&C it was his expression, he kept sucking his bottom lip in:love: (Cute and sexy)

BlackKat

01-09-2006, 12:22

PO Spoilers.

Friday 22 September
Meanwhile, Jake becomes wary of Sean and warns him to stay away from Ruby.

--

I definitely think this is Jake's exit. Hopefully he leaves of his own accord though, not because he's forced out.

Maybe he's the one who tips Johnny off about Sean? I can't see him wanting to do it, as he knows what Johnny's like and that Ruby would hate him for it...but maybe as a last resort? :searchme:

littlemo

01-09-2006, 12:27

Yeah I reckon so. He'd see Ruby in trouble and realise it was the only way to get Sean away from her. He'll probably come into some run-ins with Sean himself first, and realise he can't handle him on his own.

Babe14

01-09-2006, 13:24

I'm almost certain that Johnny and Jake's exit will be connected in some way.

Sean dates Ruby for her money and so he can get his hands on the club. Jake realises what Sean is up to and the only way
he can stop this from happening is to involve Johnny. Johnny tries to intervene unsuccessfully and ends up dead, Jake is then threatened or an attempt made on his life so he is forced to leave walford. All this will be down to Sean Slater who realises that both Jake and Johnny have to be removed from the picture inorder for his plan to work.

Whatever happens it will all be Brat's fault who I'm sure will get hers come November

So Jake's exit I'm sure will involve Brat/Sean/Johnny

BlackKat

01-09-2006, 13:33

I hope if it is Jake who gets Johnny involved, we get to see a scene with them (Jake visiting Johnny in prison etc). I'd love to see Jake telling Johnny where to go one last time, especially as it was Johnny who manipulated Danny into killing Dennis, leading to Jake shooting Danny. And then Johnny just assumed he would have no problem in running the club and taking responsibility for Ruby, like he owed Johnny anything. :mad:

"You really are full of it."
"What you gonna do Johnny, you gonna kill me twice?"
"The truth is, you're just a thug who's caused more pain then he's ever felt."

Yeah, I just watched that episode again. Ah, good times. :wub:

Babe14

01-09-2006, 13:45

"You really are full of it."
"What you gonna do Johnny, you gonna kill me twice?"
"The truth is, you're just a thug who's caused more pain then he's ever felt."

Yeah, I just watched that episode again. Ah, good times. :wub:

They certainly were:wub: And I'll always remember Jake/Carly :wub:

I have a feeling that all this Johnny return stuff and Jake's exit will be the final lose end that Enders have planned to end that era:crying: Espec as Johnny gets killed off in October.

The producers have made it now so that Jake is no longer a part of things and they have been doing this ever since his return last year by deliberately pushing him further and further into the background and leaving him out of all the main action. He has just been used as a quick fill in. He was an excellent character who could of been part of the "new" enders, but I think that they who stuff things up never intended him to be .:angry:

I really feel for Joel and hope that he is very successful once he has escaped:) Still hopefully he got a nice wodge out of them:)

Yes I hope we have one final scene between Jake/Johnny where Jake gives Johnny one final "insult" or "home" truth

BlackKat

05-09-2006, 20:42

Nothing much in the mags this week. It's just what we already know from the PO spoilers.

Phil and Billy get into a fight at Scarlets, and it says Jake breaks it up. There's a pic of Jake holding Billy back. Jake's wearing a very nice black suit. :wub:

Bit confused about the fight to be honest though, because they all say it's Jake that breaks it up -- but I thought it was Sean as that's when he impresses Jake by the way he handles it. Unless there's two fights that night....:searchme:

Not much else apart from a quote in the interview with Louisa about the Sean storyline:

Raunchy Ruby even asks Jake for advice, much to the brotherly barman's awkwardness. "He's absolutely mortified," explains Louisa. "She's like a sister to him."

So at least Louisa knows what the Ruby&Jake storyline should be about even if the writers don't. :p

To Babe14: I'll be on holiday next week, so we'll both be watching the omnibus for these episodes. Just telling you so you don't think that they're either so wonderful or appalling that I'm speechless, lol. :rotfl:

Babe14

06-09-2006, 09:20

Bit confused about the fight to be honest though, because they all say it's Jake that breaks it up -- but I thought it was Sean as that's when he impresses Jake by the way he handles it. Unless there's two fights that night....:searchme:

Unless it's another spoiler booby:lol:

So at least Louisa knows what the Ruby&Jake storyline should be about even if the writers don't. :p

:rotfl:

To Babe14: I'll be on holiday next week, so we'll both be watching the omnibus for these episodes. Just telling you so you don't think that they're either so wonderful or appalling that I'm speechless, lol. :rotfl:

:rotfl: and thank you for keeping me/us updated about everything.

As you may or may not of noticed I'm not posting much at the moment, (anywhere)reason being that I can't really be bothered, plus I have other things which I want to get on with:)

Have a wonderful holiday and don't worry I'll pop on and discuss the Jake scenes with you. (and maybe we'll even discuss a bit of Emmerdale):)

Thanks again

P.S. Easties was O.k last week, a bit slow but I enjoyed Max/Bradley scenes and the way Max was trying to help Stacey/Bradley.

P.S.S Do you want me to write any synopsis etc in the E/dale thread for you?

BlackKat

06-09-2006, 12:02

As you may or may not of noticed I'm not posting much at the moment, (anywhere)reason being that I can't really be bothered, plus I have other things which I want to get on with:)

Have a wonderful holiday and don't worry I'll pop on and discuss the Jake scenes with you. (and maybe we'll even discuss a bit of Emmerdale):)

It's okay, I know how it is when things get busy -- I'm off to uni in a few weeks so I'm not sure how often I'll be able to come on the board myself. I hope I'll be able to pop in as well to discuss Jake's exit, and of course I'll still be watching Emmerdale (unlike a certain other soap once a certain character leaves ;) :p ) so I'm gonna carry on posting there when I can.

P.S.S Do you want me to write any synopsis etc in the E/dale thread for you?

No, it's okay. I'll be recording Emmerdale so I'll be able to watch it when I get back. Thanks for the offer though. :D

Babe14

07-09-2006, 11:19

It's okay, I know how it is when things get busy -- I'm off to uni in a few weeks so I'm not sure how often I'll be able to come on the board myself. I hope I'll be able to pop in as well to discuss Jake's exit, and of course I'll still be watching Emmerdale (unlike a certain other soap once a certain character leaves ;) :p ) so I'm gonna carry on posting there when I can.

Good luck with uni:)

To be honest I just roughly watch Easties, I'm nearly always doing things whilst it's on so I hardly ever sit through the full two hours these days, I record at the same time in case I miss anything. I think Sean Slater will be turned into Grant II which will ruin the first impression you had of the character, but still it is to be expected:lol: :rolleyes:

I'm sure will catch up with each other in the Jake thread at some point regarding his exit storyline, which I have a feeling could be a disappointment (Go on Easties prove me wrong...:lol: ) In the future though I think I may well end up ditching Easties altogether, Emmerdale however is a different matter.:)

diamond1

07-09-2006, 16:08

Joining in I did try and stay loyal to eastenders but it is so boring these days even I dont want to watch it anymore,apart from the odd moment with jake it is very boring,

the only thing on tv which I have is hollyoaks which keeps me sane.

If ee where to end tommrow I now wouldnt care because right now brooksides dying day was more exciting

when Jake goes there wont be one character that I actually like how sad is that!?

(oh wait I tolerate mickey miller and *ahem* gus)

BlackKat

07-09-2006, 17:12

Good luck with uni:)

Thank you. :) I'm looking forward to it, but I don't think the "living away from home for the first time," has really hit me yet. :lol:

I'm sure will catch up with each other in the Jake thread at some point regarding his exit storyline, which I have a feeling could be a disappointment (Go on Easties prove me wrong...:lol: )

It's looking like his exit is just a plot point in the Ruby/Sean storyline, :rolleyes: Like Danny, we'll probably get one episode of "Let's rush through all the character development," and then a crappy exit. (Except Danny's exit wasn't so crappy.)

when Jake goes there wont be one character that I actually like how sad is that!?

(oh wait I tolerate mickey miller and *ahem* gus)

My problem isn't even that I don't like them. It's that I don't care about most of them. I'd rather hate all the characters than have just complete indifference to them.

I did like Stacey/Bradley but now that's beginning to annoy me. And I like Max -- but not enough to keep me watching just for him.

Babe14

08-09-2006, 08:43

Thank you. :) I'm looking forward to it, but I don't think the "living away from home for the first time," has really hit me yet. :lol:

You'll love it, all those wild parties and meeting new people.

It's looking like his exit is just a plot point in the Ruby/Sean storyline, :rolleyes: Like Danny, we'll probably get one episode of "Let's rush through all the character development," and then a crappy exit. (Except Danny's exit wasn't so crappy.)

Yeah that's the impression I have too.:angry:

I did like Stacey/Bradley but now that's beginning to annoy me. And I like Max -- but not enough to keep me watching just for him.

Stacey/Bradley are very good but they are fast becoming boring, reason I see Overuse,as was Denise/Kevin etc, characters who are in your face all the time, even the ones we adore will become boring if they hog all the action.
Max is good but how long will it be before he too becomes overused. Sean Slater I'm going off already after only two weeks, reason being I can see him being a victim of cloned personality.

IMO Jake was his own character one with a different personality from what we had before, o.k there were some slight resemblences to past/pres characters but not a lot, however he was hardly ever used and apart from the Johnny/Danny stuff , was never given any juicy storylines. The Ruby/Jake realtionship has been handled wrongly and has become a big disappointment. A lot of the Jake scenes now seem pointless, all they have Jake doing is clearing glasses and walking back and forth behind the bar at Scarlets or arguing with Brat. They have handled the characters personality correctly but with the other hand have destroyed the character.

So once Jake has left Easties will lose three more viewers who will be more dedicated than ever to their preferred soap: D1 - Hollyoaks, BK and Babe14 Emmerdale.
glug..
glug...

BlackKat

08-09-2006, 10:56

Max is good but how long will it be before he too becomes overused. Sean Slater I'm going off already after only two weeks, reason being I can see him being a victim of cloned personality.

I think this is another problem as well because of how badly they've used Jake's character this year and messed up other characters as well -- I don't "trust" the show anymore. So now even when I like characters like Max, I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop and for them to mess him up aswell. :mad:

Babe14

08-09-2006, 11:20

I think this is another problem as well because of how badly they've used Jake's character this year and messed up other characters as well -- I don't "trust" the show anymore. So now even when I like characters like Max, I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop and for them to mess him up aswell. :mad:

And I think they will. At the moment with Max we are finding out a lot about Jim's past which I like and there seems to be a lot of twist and turns in both Max's character and the "family" history. I liked the more caring side of max which we saw last week, I really thought he'd be all for getting rid of the baby.
I agree you can't trust the "show" anymore. I think this is the worst producer they have ever had. I've started watching a couple of old episodes on Gold (Andy Hunter:wub: when he started to come into the show) and you can see how it has gone down hill since 2003. (Producers at the time were Julia Smith/Tony Holland, shame they aren't around anymore, ah the good old days that were..and I'm sure they wouldn't of under used Jake or ruined the characters potential.

BlackKat

08-09-2006, 12:30

PO Spoilers:

Tuesday 26th September
Elsewhere, Jake is annoyed when Sean skips work to spend time with Ruby.

Friday 29th September
Meanwhile, Jake is uncomfortable with Sean working at the club. He tells Ruby that things aren't working out but, when he can't give her a reason to get rid of Sean, she insists he stays. Later, Jake thinks that he can play Sean at his own game but it doesn't all go to plan.

...

I bet Jake's exit is running scared from Sean. :wall: :rolleyes: Because he can look Johnny Allen and his gun in the face and tell him to go to hell, but Sean Slater and his inane grin is "OMG, too much to handle!?!?11!" Whatever, EastEnders. WTFever. :rolleyes:

Just leave the brat to it, Jakey. Alternatively, seeing as you have access to the club accounts -- clean them out and go on a very long holiday. :p

Edit: The other exit storyline I would accept is if it turned out Jake was masterminding the entire thing -- pretending to be scared of Sean, so that he "has" to get Johnny involved, knowing that things between Johnny and Sean would most likely escalate into a fight that Johnny wouldn't win -- all in order to get revenge on Johnny for what he did to Danny. Not to mention leaving him in charge of Ruby for the past few months.

...And then Jake cleans out the club accounts and goes on a very long holiday. :p

Now, admittedly, this would also be a character change for Jake, as he hasn't previously shown any inclination towards this sort of behaviour...but in this case, I really wouldn't care.

diamond1

08-09-2006, 12:52

lol How funny is that...
Because he can look Johnny Allen and his gun in the face and tell him to go to hell, but Sean Slater and his inane grin is "OMG, too much to handle!?!?11!" Whatever, EastEnders. WTFever that really made me laugh,

I know sean is meant to be a big bad psycho and whatever but EE in all fairness Jake isnt a little boy he can handle himself they cant expect us to belive after he watched andy die,stood by chrissie and killed danny that jake would actually be scared of a SLATER........

as there is no confirmation maybe jake gets killed? or maybe jhonny asks him to help him escape and he gets arrested by the police?

So once Jake has left Easties will lose three more viewers who will be more dedicated than ever to their preferred soap: D1 - Hollyoaks, BK and Babe14 Emmerdale.
that is a very sad way to put it....and sadly jake heaven will then cease to exist.....although I'm sure will be united again when there is "constructive" criticizm of the state of eastenders like the majority of the boards already are doing (e.g boycotting it even further)

BlackKat

08-09-2006, 13:09

that is a very sad way to put it....and sadly jake heaven will then cease to exist.....

They may take our character. They may even take our thread. But they will never take our FREEDOM!...er, I mean...our HEAVEN!

Before anyone asks...I don't know what I'm going on about either.

diamond1

08-09-2006, 13:52

EE can never take Jake Heaven from us....it may be shut down once jake leaves and EE may forget jakes very excitence to shut us the majority up.....but we shall have Jake heaven.

soon we will be classed like the old shannis and kalfie fans

Babe14

09-09-2006, 06:36

PO Spoilers:

[quote]I bet Jake's exit is running scared from Sean. :wall: :rolleyes: Because he can look Johnny Allen and his gun in the face and tell him to go to hell, but Sean Slater and his inane grin is "OMG, too much to handle!?!?11!" Whatever, EastEnders. WTFever. :rolleyes:
:angry: Exactly and their perfect revenge on us.

Edit: The other exit storyline I would accept is if it turned out Jake was masterminding the entire thing -- pretending to be scared of Sean, so that he "has" to get Johnny involved, knowing that things between Johnny and Sean would most likely escalate into a fight that Johnny wouldn't win -- all in order to get revenge on Johnny for what he did to Danny. Not to mention leaving him in charge of Ruby for the past few months.

...And then Jake cleans out the club accounts and goes on a very long holiday. :p

That would be the perfect exit, complete with a very satisfied smile on his face. (Yep I can just picture it all now..)

Now, admittedly, this would also be a character change for Jake, as he hasn't previously shown any inclination towards this sort of behaviour...but in this case, I really wouldn't care.

Not so sure it would be as he can be pretty mean when he wants to be (re aftermath of Danny), scenes with Johnny and to me Jakey has always had a gangsterish look about him. No our Jakey can be a really bad boy when he wants to be..
I hate Easties:angry:
Maybe Joel will show up in Emmerdale:lol: (um just imagine him covered in mud...top off...)

diamond1

15-09-2006, 15:01

jake starts to recive prank phone calls
what an exit eastenders........he gets a dodgy phone call and does a runner?

PICTURE THIS SCENE
jakes in scarletts the phone rings
jake:hello
phone:hello is ben there?
Jke:ben who?
phone:Ben dover
jake shouts to the bar:is there a ben dover here...ben dover anyone?

BlackKat

15-09-2006, 17:56

Elsewhere, when Sean tries to put down Jake, Ruby is quick to jump to his defence – but she unwittingly reveals some information which Sean finds very useful...

She's gonna mention Danny. I know it. Ruby lets slip, Sean calls the police, Jake gets arrested, Jake manages to tip off Johnny about Sean, and then Johnny gets out of prison, and...oh, wait by this time I've stopped watching.

I'm glad Ruby defends him...but if her method of defending him somehow includes "Oh, but he's not a bad guy, despite what him shooting his brother and burying the body in a shallow grave on my father's estate in Essex might look like...oh, oops I shouldn't have said that," I'd rather she hadn't bothered. :mad:

Babe14

16-09-2006, 08:16

:angry: I just knew they'd give Jake a duff exit, it had BETTER NOT be a B*****prison exit

BlackKat

17-09-2006, 20:59

Babe14

18-09-2006, 09:20

I tried to write a good review of last weeks episode (todays omnibus). But it seemed to consist of a lot of "That was b*llocks," or variants of the word, and not a lot else.

And that's before I got to the Jake/Ruby/Sean storyline. ;)

Okay, positives first. The scene where Ruby talked to Sean about Jake "losing" his family, so he didn't trust people, and that he saw Ruby as a little sister was nice, as it showed Ruby does actually see Jake as a person, not just a punchbag for when she feels a brat attack coming on. (She really needs to get that ailment seen to.) I also liked Jake’s “Trojan Horse,” line, and the coke can trick. (Kinda immature, but I hate Sean so even if Jake had stuck “Kick Me Hard,” on Sean’s back I wouldn’t have cared.) I also liked Jake covering for Pat in the bookies, although I'd have liked more to see an actual scene between them.

But other than that, crap.

This storyline isn't going to be about Jake. It won't even be about Ruby. I mean what happened to Ruby asking Jake for advice on men? A scene that actually might show some friendship between them?...Oh no, can't have that. I think we're supposed to think that Jake and Ruby are actually friends, that they get along most of the time...but how are we supposed to know that when all we get shown are the bratty scenes?

And it's not even Ruby anymore, because like I said before, she's even more of a victim of the scriptwriters than Jake is. I mean, last year she falls hook, line and sinker for Juley's crap. This year she does the same with Sean. It doesn't make her a stupid person, it makes the people writing her stupid because she has not grown at all. Surely finding out your first real boyfriend, the person you lost your virginity to, was actually paid to be with you, would knock you back, make you less likely to trust someone. But no, she's still the lame bratty plot device she's been since last October, waiting for big hard gangster man Johnny to ride to the rescue.

And Jake? - Yeah, he's still mostly in character...but he's underused, when he is used the majority of the time it's in crap scenes, and honestly I hope next Friday's PO spoilers have his exit in so we can just get it over and done with.

Excellently written and I agree 110%:clap:

I found the can trick funny and I liked the way Jake went "oops" he had that lovely mischievious child look on his face. I thought he looked lovely dressed from head to toe in black.
Also I liked the way he handled the fight between Billy and Phil. Jake showed his calmness and maturity, whereas Sean showed his "loose Cannoness", Jake was strong and in control in this scene, he kept Sean inline. I liked the way Phil apologised to Jake, you hardly ever here Phil apologise to anyone for anything. (This to me showed that Phil has respect for Jake)Afterwards Jake kind of disciplined Sean over the way he handled things, Sean was all for getting stuck in but Jake wasn't having any of it and he let Sean know. Overall this scene portrayed Jake as strong.
The scene with Sean/Jake where Jake was showing him the ropes and told him he has to keep the women in the club, that way the men will stay all night, I liked the way Jake kept calm and pleasant after that woman told him that she has heard all his lines before but no offence. Jake just calmy went "none taken" but then his face changed once he turned away, he looked miffed and had his angry look on his face.

I have the impression that Jake doesn't like Sean at all (he's not alone:lol: )and probably doesn't trust him either and is just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Bookie Scene - Nice to see Jake have a change of scenery and when Sean walked in bored and started messing about with things, I sort of had the impression that Jake thought he had traits of Danny's behaviour about him, I know I did!

Although I liked some of the Jake scenes I wasn't impressed and am extremely angry about what they have done with the character,o.k they haven't given Jake a personality transplant they have been consistent and kept him in character (well most of the time) but the character has been a victim in another way, no storylines not even for an exit. Jake has never really had his own storyline since returning he has always been a part of a storyline. What a B***** waste of potential and excellent acting ability.
Role on exit day so we don't have to suffer anymore of the crap. Hopefully Joel has escaped by now and moved on to much better things or heading towards them (Go to ITV1 mate!)
Overall Enders was a load of crap and that is one thing they never fail to disappoint us in

BlackKat

19-09-2006, 18:34

A couple of comments from Kate Harwood's interview with Inside Soap, previewing the rest of the year, and how her team has "put the 'wow' factor back into Walford." (For my sanity, I will assume by this they mean the "Wow, I can't believe how bad this is," factor.)

"We've now tackled that feeling of going round in circles so that particular criticism doesn't come our way any more."

Oh, who knew Kate Harwood had a sense of humour!

"People seem to think that the calibre of the new cast members is very high, which is great."

What she actually means: "We haven't completely screwed these characters up (although not for lack of trying, ahah Bradley we got you too!) so people don't hate them. Yet."

On Ruby:

"I call her the Paris Hilton of Walford!" smiles Kate. "But what can you do with a lass who owns half the Square?"

Oh, gee wizz that is a hard one. But it's not actually my job to figure it out...it is however yours. You decided to bring Ruby back to the Square once Johnny left. You knew what position the character would be in. And you should have figured out before you put her in that position what you were going to do with her.

"It's fair to say that without Sean, both Ruby and Jake might have been staying."

And I think it's fair to say that without your shoddy executive producing both Ruby and Jake might have been staying.

*is totally absolutely calm. Really.*

Anyway, next week. Same old same old. Sean sleeps with some rep from the brewery (or something), Jake finds out. Jake tries to set them up so Ruby will see them together, but when they walk in Sean and the rep are just working.

I'm just so gosh darn excited! Can't you tell!

*is still totally calm*

I hate this show.

diamond1

19-09-2006, 20:44

One thing I love about you blackKat is your sense of humor hands down your the funniest person I have met on this site I am just a mere apprentice of your humor, that last post really had me laughing because its so darn true...

However I didnt read the interview in fact I skipped those pages today in inside soap about the feature on eastenders I didnt with the other soaps on previous weeks because you actually know are going to have something explosive on emmerdale and corrie to look forward to but our money I mean eastenders is going to deal with more crap storylines and recycled characters to "entertain" us,

sadly it wont

pauline fowler kicking the bucket means nothing to me and the crap with ruby can rot just like the scripts because like BK said its just like last year just without phil growling about jhonny allen to juley (and kate harwood says we're not going in circles) .No doubt the powers that be will make Jake to be the coward he seemed when the mitchells returned last year because it will fit in with their current storyline not because it makes sense..like ok the guy killed his brother lets have him scared of a 22 year old unempolyed ex-squadie so much so he legs it after telling jhonny!!!FANTASTIC STORYLINES GUYS KEEP IT UP!!!

Babe14

20-09-2006, 11:12

Next week in Inside Soap Comments From Babe14 and co

Your comment about Sean Slater being the possible reason for Jake/Louisa leaving is a load of doodah as he was brought into the show once Joel decided to leave up to which point I believe a decison hadn't been made regarding bringing the character into the show.

The real reason for the character Jake to be exiting the show is due to lack of storylines and viewing time for which there is no excuse as you have had endless suggestions for possible future storylines for the character. It is down to you and your writing department that Jake has now become non existent in the show and when he does appear on screen we are very disappointed as he is just given crap to do, I mean he hasn't even got an exit storyline!!

O.K there are some good new characters in the show, Max/Tanya/Bradley/Rob but how long is it going to be before these characters fall victim to poor storylines and either, lack of viewing time or over exposure?
IMO Sean Slater has already fallen victim, he was a character who on first appearance I thought he was going to be a very good character, however last week the character rapidly lost his appeal.
No sorry Kate from a viewer of 22 years the soap is way below standard and once I have witnessed the apaulling exit that it appears you have planned for "Our" Jake I too will be exiting.

Note: Do you have any writing vacancies available please, as I am hoping to pursue a career in writing :lol:

Babe14

20-09-2006, 11:18

And I think it's fair to say that without Sean both Ruby and Jake might have been staying.

Hang on a sec I thought it was Joel's decision to leave the soap? Does this mean my suspicions were correct he was given a helping hand and it has been made to look like his decision so they don't get all the flack they had first time around?

The only letters they would get this time would be to congratulate Joel on making the right decision and telling him to run like hell!

I hate this show.

me too and I hope we don't have to suffer much more of it for to long, please let our Jake leave within the next couple of weeks.

P.S :rotfl: at your comments

BlackKat

20-09-2006, 11:26

Hang on a sec I thought it was Joel's decision to leave the soap? Does this mean my suspicions were correct he was given a helping hand and it has been made to look like his decision so they don't get all the flack they had first time around?

The only letters they would get this time would be to congratulate Joel on making the right decision and telling him to run like hell!

What I meant was that I think if in Joel's case they had given him decent storylines and a decent amount of screentime he may have stayed. Obviously I can't say for sure, as...well, I'm not Joel so I don't know what the decision was, and it may have been that he wanted to move on anyway, and, yes, it may also have been that he was pushed. But when you have a character constantly shoved to one side and then the actor quits it's not a huge leap of logic to connect the two.

And in Louisa's case, if they'd given half a second to actually think about the character of Ruby and decide which direction to take in her next, based on her personality and who she is, not on what 'explosive' "Johnny returns" plots they can wrangle out of her, then they wouldn't be in a position of "Oh, what can you do with someone who owns half the Square."

One thing I love about you blackKat is your sense of humor hands down your the funniest person I have met on this site I am just a mere apprentice of your humor, that last post really had me laughing because its so darn true...

:lol: Lol, thank you. :D :)

Babe14

20-09-2006, 11:31

What I meant was that I think if in Joel's case they had given him decent storylines and a decent amount of screentime he may have stayed. Obviously I can't say for sure, as...well, I'm not Joel so I don't know what the decision was, and it may have been that he wanted to move on anyway, and, yes, it may also have been that he was pushed. But when you have a character constantly shoved to one side and then the actor quits it's not a huge leap of logic to connect the two.

And in Louisa's case, if they'd given half a second to actually think about the character of Ruby and decide which direction to take in her next, based on her personality and who she is, not on what 'explosive' "Johnny returns" plots they can wrangle out of her, then they wouldn't be in a position of "Oh, what can you do with someone who owns half the Square."

I know I was actually being sarcy to Eastenders:lol:

They managed to create enough storylines for the Mitchells when they owned half the square and I'm sure they will do the same once Sean Slater owns the club, Jake's house and anything else he can get his grubby mits on. And I am absolutely positive that Sean won't just be shoved behind the bar!

BlackKat

20-09-2006, 11:39

They managed to create enough storylines for the Mitchells when they owned half the square and I'm sure they will do the same once Sean Slater owns the club, Jake's house and anything else he can get his grubby mits on. And I am absolutely positive that Sean won't just be shoved behind the bar!

Sean Slater's a dead end character IMO. He'll either end up just glowering pathetically at anyone who comes near him, or he'll be made all vulnerable and "sweet," by the EE bosses in the hopes that all the teenies will rip down their Nigel Harman posters and shove Robert Whatshisface up on the ceiling instead. :rolleyes:

I know I was actually being sarcy to Eastenders:lol:

Ah okay. Sorry, misunderstood the post. Ah, well...never a missed oppourtunity to rant at the EE bosses, :lol:

Babe14

20-09-2006, 11:57

Sean Slater's a dead end character IMO. He'll either end up just glowering pathetically at anyone who comes near him, or he'll be made all vulnerable and "sweet," by the EE bosses in the hopes that all the teenies will rip down their Nigel Harman posters and shove Robert Whatshisface up on the ceiling instead. :rolleyes:

Ah okay. Sorry, misunderstood the post. Ah, well...never a missed oppourtunity to rant at the EE bosses, :lol:

Like I said I liked Sean on first apearance but that wore off the following week. So I think that says it all really.

P.S Where are your E/dale posts?:)

BlackKat

20-09-2006, 12:01

Like I said I liked Sean on first apearance but that wore off the following week. So I think that says it all really.

P.S Where are your E/dale posts?:)

I think Sean suffers from a) being generally crap, and b) being over-hyped to ridiculous levels.

I'm gonna post about Emmerdale and the kidnap when I've seen the whole storyline (after Thursday's). I'm really enjoying it so far, but I think it's one of those things where you can't really decide (or at least I can't) until you've seen it all and can take a step back if that makes sense. :searchme:

Babe14

20-09-2006, 12:05

I think Sean suffers from a) being generally crap, and b) being over-hyped to ridiculous levels.

I'm gonna post about Emmerdale and the kidnap when I've seen the whole storyline (after Thursday's). I'm really enjoying it so far, but I think it's one of those things where you can't really decide (or at least I can't) until you've seen it all and can take a step back if that makes sense. :searchme:

Perfect sense. I had a bit of a rant about Matt today, still:wub: him to bits, but I am a bit:angry:

What Seanis doing we've seen before in the form of Grant Mitchell and Nick Cotton maybe he has a bit of Dennis but not so sure about that.

This is where Our Jake was different he had his own character, O.K there were perhaps slight resemblences to Alfie and Dennis but not a lot. I think this is because we were actually listened too and we created him:lol:

BlackKat

20-09-2006, 12:12

This is where Our Jake was different he had his own character, O.K there were perhaps slight resemblences to Alfie and Dennis but not a lot. I think this is because we were actually listened too and we created him:lol:

One thing I like about Jake is how his "weaknesses" are also his strengths -- mainly his obsession with "saving" people, which could have made him all pathetic and like a puppy dog (and almost did last October/November) but actually it...doesn't, because he sort of takes charge whilst doing everything for someone else, so it's a mixture of strength and weakness. I'm rambling now, but it makes sense in my head.

Okay to clarify -- what I mean is, I think his "saving" people is a weakness, as it's something he's compelled to do and he almost can't help it, but the way he goes about it makes him a strong character.

diamond1

21-09-2006, 21:53

OH god anyone read this weeks spoilers..jesus christ (head banging on wall repeatidly unil blood goes everywhere)
so sean blackmails jake into leaving SHOCK HORROR :eek: so for a man who has been invoved in some great storys leaves in such a low profile paul trueman style way no wonder I think.....wait (change that)HOPE eastenders is not around in a years time because they are destroying a show that has been a part of all our lives,

What Seanis doing spelling mistake Babe14 I think you put a S instead of a P there and added an A by accident!or at least thats what I think of sean so far!!

so many questions are floating around why would ruby let slip this "secret",why is this storyline being used again,and unless sean marries ruby before november how can (the rumor that) scarletts will become his possibly happen?

Babe14

22-09-2006, 07:10

:rotfl: D1

Oh what a surprise a crap ending for Jake:rolleyes: they really have taken the P*ss and made the character look weak.
Yep part of an "explosive" storyline.

Sean: "Get lost Jake or I'll blab about Danny"

Jake: "O.K. See Ya"
(And he leaves in a black cab or on foot with his bag)

now let me see this will leave patheitc Sean running the club with blabber mouth brat with neither of them knowing one end of a beer pump from the other. Might be worth to watch a while just to P/s myself laughing at their pathetic attempts:rotfl: Oh wait this is Eastenders and they will forget about this important fact and make everything hunky dory with dorky Sean making a success of running the joint before he knocks off brat so he can have the lot!

Babe14

26-09-2006, 08:20

According to DS we have Jake receiving crank phone calls, then

Jake becomes anxious when he continues to receive crank calls. After returning home drunk one night, he realises there is someone in his house.

Jake is furious when he discovers what the intruder has done. He suspects Sean was behind it and goes to confront him.

After Jake's recent erratic behaviour Ruby feels she has no choice but to sack him. She tells him the news, but is left shocked at his response.

Guess brat has now turned 18. I can just picture Jake's response and face:lol:

Jake is furious when he discovers Sean has broken into his house. He lunges for him but stops in his tracks when Sean reveals that he knows all about his past.

Wow I can't wait for this explosive and exciting exit!:rolleyes: Well at least we will have a Jake filled week one in which he appears in every episode, for I'm guessing 2 secs :rolleyes:

Babe14

29-09-2006, 12:32

More Jakey Exit Spoilers:
Monday, 16th Ocotber
Ruby prepares for her 18th birthday and goes to visit Johnny in prison. Jake tries to scare Sean by telling him about Johnny's past, but Sean appears unshaken and he threatens to go to the police about Danny.

Tuesday, October 17
Johnny tells Ruby that he thinks Sean is after her money, which makes her realise that Jake has been going to Johnny behind her back. Jake confronts Sean and challenges him to go to see Johnny in prison.

Thursday, October 19
Ruby is nervous about Sean visiting Johnny, and it seems that her fears are well founded as the pair argue.

Friday, October 20 Ruby is quick to blame Jake for her father's condition. They have a heated argument and Jake decides he's had enough and leaves. However, his fate is uncertain when a last request from Johnny is misunderstood.

:angry: :rolleyes: :eek: They wouldn't dare, would they?

diamond1

06-10-2006, 12:42

Looks likes Jake is going to be Killed off by accident according to the sun...what a great way to get rid of someone

imagine the scene a
gangster is walking along see's jake and thinks well I dont want to miss 'the sopranos' tonight so ill shoot this guy with any luck it might be this sean fella and I can imagine the producers where thinking if we kill him off screen we can bring him back in 14 years time.(if eastenders actually exists then)

Babe14

07-10-2006, 09:43

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they killl Jake off and yes they would make the wonderful Sean Slater:rolleyes: the one to do it. They have killed off all the other "Gangsters" so why leave Jake out. (He has always been classed as a gangster, although never portrayed as one, only slightly from time to time) I would look upon this as a happy ending as Jake would be reunited with his brother Danny:p I can just picture it now..

Sean stabs Jake through his heart, Jake falls to the ground and as he is fading away he sees Danny who is holding out his hand to Jake (just as Jake mutters his name) and smiling, Jake smiles weakly back as he is fading fast, holds his handout and takes Danny's, as their hands join Jake's eyes close...

If this is the "Exit" they have planned I just hope that it was Joel's decision, as it was Nigel's to kill Dennis off, I would be happy with that.:)
After which I will Kill Enders off:D

Babe14

07-10-2006, 11:08

I SO HATE SEAN "DORKY" SLATER:angry: :angry:

http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2006461065,00.jpg

October 07, 2006

EASTENDERS

Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri - BBC1

I t was only a matter of time before sworn enemies Sean and Jake came to blows – the only question was who would come out on top!

This week, we get the answer when Sean gives Jake a humiliating beating that leaves Jake adamant that he’s quitting Walford. But before Jake skips town, he calls his boss Johnny Allen to have Sean killed!

“Jake knows he has to kill Sean or leave town,” says Joel Beckett, who plays Jake.“He refuses to go back to that murderous world, so he has to go. But first he makes a phone call that’s a death sentence for Sean.”

Jake starts the week under fire from Sean’s cruel mind games. It starts with him receiving sinister phone calls, but then Jake returns home to find the late Nana Moon’s bed looking like she’s still sleeping in it. “Jake storms out to confront Sean in The Vic,” says Joel.

“Sean denies being in the house and Jake lashes out and punches him. But Jake comes off worse before they’re pulled apart.”

Ruby tells Sean he was right about Jake being unstable. Sean insists he can handle him, but Ruby reveals Jake killed his own brother.

“Jake and Sean are similar in many ways,” says Joel. “That’s why Jake sees through him.”

Disgusted Ruby fires Jake, but he offers to apologise to Sean and keeps his job.

But, later, Sean sneaks into Jake’s home and tells him he knows he killed Danny. “That’s the ultimate betrayal for Jake,” says Joel. “He can’t believe Ruby has told Sean his darkest secret.”

Furious Jake confronts Ruby, but it’s clear she’s besotted with Sean and won’t listen.In desperation he even offers Sean £15,000 to leave, but he refuses to go.

“Jake knows the only way to get rid of him is to kill him and he’s not prepared to do that,” says Joel.

“Jake’s had enough. But before he goes he calls Johnny – that should spell the end
of Sean Slater once and for all.” We live in hope"

I HATE BRAT EVEN MORE AND CAN'T WAIT UNTIL SEAN DOES THE SAME TO HER AND I'M SURE HE WILL.:D

So Where is Phil? Jake could of easily enlisted Phil's help and together they could of "made" Sean disappear, then Jake could of gone off into the Sun and lived happily ever after:)

Babe14

08-10-2006, 08:16

Looks like I may get my happy ending for Jakey:)

Latest DS Spoilers

Sean is stunned when he realises that Ruby has changed the locks at the club. She says she did so because of the threat of Jake coming back.

Sounds like Jake may leave Ruby terrified, :D

Also, Brat gives her inheritance to charity because it is tainted with blood:D

Wonder if Dorky Sean will know, if so then he isn't going to be a happy bunny, but I will be (think I'll keep on watching for a bit longer):D :D

If this is all going to work out the way I think it is then, NICE ONE JAKEY!

matt1378

17-10-2006, 00:07

yey they cant kill jake off:nono:

diamond1

20-10-2006, 14:01

well tonight it is ladies and gentleman the last of jake -after tonight no doubt the thread will be closed so in all it has been great posting on this thread and remember rule 1 of jake heaven :)

after months of toture jakes finally laid to rest his character has been kicked around so much that even this ending is crud.

who thinks of killing somone by ACCIDENT?

I think him punching sean after sean threatens him then owning up to dannys murder on his own accord would send him out on a high-to prove no one can push him around any more BUT NO we have this childish mindless crud to endure.(which is recycled from paul truemans exit)

Mr Humphries

20-10-2006, 22:50

Well he is gone ! Up sitting on that cloud with Danny have a good old chat !

After seeing him on Paul O'Grady, he was pleased to be leaving I think, made a lovely remark about all the cast do is sleep mainly !:lol:

Babe14

21-10-2006, 10:48

Jake Moon was one of the lovliest characters Eastenders has ever had, his personality was unique. All his life he suffered pain and "toruture" right up to the very end. Despite his "troubles" he was always there if someone needed help, caring and wanting to help. He always put his own needs second and those of others first, espec Danny then Ruby, both of whom caused him great heartache and pain. He worked through his heartaches, his troubles, tortures and pain which without doubt made him a very strong person.

It was not all bad for the lovely Mr Moon he did have some happiness and that was when he met Chrissie Watts who was the love of his life and the only woman he could ever of truly loved with all his heart. He had happiness and fun, albeit short, with Carly Watts and of course there were the good times he shared with brother Danny.

Jake didn't get the ending he deserved nor the one I wanted for him, he should of had his happiness not death. :angry:. The one that he was going off to find as he was now free to do so being at last free from "baggage" which he had to carry around with him all his life. There was just him now with no one to mop up after, no one's battles to fight, no one tohold him back and best of all there was no one to mess things up for him when something good was happening in his life. Jake was both happy, relieved and free in the end.

Jake Moon will now be filed away in my memory and remembered as one of the great characters of Eastenders, mainly because of his personality and the type of character he was. I will always remember that Tuesday episode when him and Carly had spontaneous sex, the scenes with cousin Alfie, they were fantastic together, Nana Moon, the flirty scenes with Chrissie, Johnny Allen, Pat (espec tha final scene) and of course the special Jake/Danny scenes.

Well done again to the lovely Joel Beckett who portrayed the character of Jake Moon splendidly.

p.s I am now free of Eastenders!!!:rotfl:

Mr Humphries

21-10-2006, 10:51

Very well said babe ! He was not given the happiness he deserved, I just live in hope that Jake has joined Johnny where ever he has gone !

Babe14

21-10-2006, 11:04

Thanks:)

I believe that they are still alive and well and have fled abroad somewhere, where Jake will get the happiness he deserves. :rotfl: :p

Did you notice that when the goon asked Jake if he was Jake Moon, Jake didn't confirm either way?

Seriously though this storyline had a lot of loop holes. Why would Johnny be saying Jake.. Kill him and not Phone..Jake

How does the cellmate know that Jake's surname was Moon as Johnny just said Jake.

Even if Johnny had told his cellmate about Jake Moon it would of been fairly obvious that Johnny trusted and respected Jake as he had put Ruby in Jake's care, including all his money etc...

I'd say that the door was still open for both Jake/Johnny to make a return, but I don't think they should as we have seen what happens to characters that do come back, i.e Den/Grant etc it is never the same. Anyway hopefully Joel would never consider a return.:)

Mr Humphries

21-10-2006, 11:13

Thanks:)

I believe that they are still alive and well and have fled abroad somewhere, where Jake will get the happiness he deserves. :rotfl: :p

Did you notice that when the goon asked Jake if he was Jake Moon, Jake didn't confirm either way? I believe at that vital moment just as Jake was about to be bundled into the back of the car Pat came strolling by and Jake used this as his escape route by calling out to her:

"Pat!"

"Alright Jake. You going somewhere?

"Just on my way over to you to say goodbye"
(Whilst the goons are hanging around and both Jake and them are eyeing one another as Jake slowly edges away)

Pat: "Goodbye?"
Jake: "lets have a nice cuppa and I'll tell you all about it"

Goes over to Pat's and makes his escape via the back door and to the airport...

Seriously though this storyline had a lot of loop holes. Why would Johnny be saying Jake.. Kill him and not Phone..Jake

How does the cellmate know that Jake's surname was Moon as Johnny just said Jake.

Even if Johnny had told his cellmate about Jake Moon it would of been fairly obvious that Johnny trusted and respected Jake as he had put Ruby in Jake's care, including all his money etc...

I'd say that the door was still open for both Jake/Johnny to make a return, but I don't think they should as we have seen what happens to characters that do come back, i.e Den/Grant etc it is never the same. Anyway hopefully Joel would never consider a return.:)

Your so right, it's full of loophole's ! I am have someone who agree's with me ! Wipppeeeeeeeee

Maybe Chrissie will be joining them too :lol:

It's clear to us anyway that the door has firmly left open for them to return one way or another, but as you say rightly why would they go back. Dirty Den said that though, all depends on how much money you are offered I suppose.

SarahWakefield

21-10-2006, 11:18

Thanks:)

I believe that they are still alive and well and have fled abroad somewhere, where Jake will get the happiness he deserves. :rotfl: :p

Did you notice that when the goon asked Jake if he was Jake Moon, Jake didn't confirm either way? I believe at that vital moment just as Jake was about to be bundled into the back of the car Pat came strolling by and Jake used this as his escape route by calling out to her:

"Pat!"

"Alright Jake. You going somewhere?

"Just on my way over to you to say goodbye"
(Whilst the goons are hanging around and both Jake and them are eyeing one another as Jake slowly edges away)

Pat: "Goodbye?"
Jake: "lets have a nice cuppa and I'll tell you all about it"

Goes over to Pat's and makes his escape via the back door and to the airport...

Seriously though this storyline had a lot of loop holes. Why would Johnny be saying Jake.. Kill him and not Phone..Jake

How does the cellmate know that Jake's surname was Moon as Johnny just said Jake.

Even if Johnny had told his cellmate about Jake Moon it would of been fairly obvious that Johnny trusted and respected Jake as he had put Ruby in Jake's care, including all his money etc...

I'd say that the door was still open for both Jake/Johnny to make a return, but I don't think they should as we have seen what happens to characters that do come back, i.e Den/Grant etc it is never the same. Anyway hopefully Joel would never consider a return.:)

At the beginning of yesterdays episode when Johnny was being taken away he said to that man....Jake Moon and then said whatever else he said! :)

Babe14

21-10-2006, 12:34

At the beginning of yesterdays episode when Johnny was being taken away he said to that man....Jake Moon and then said whatever else he said! :)

O.k Thanks:) that clears that one up, but a) how did the henchman know what Jake looked like? b) Why would Johnny want someone who he trusts 110% with his daughter's life and his money killed? Mean who would look after Ruby?

IMO it was all done slap dash and just for the sake of getting rid of two characters inorder to end an era.
I am glad that we had Jake killed? off screen as Paul Trueman was I think it is better this way. I still believe that it was possible for Jake to talk his way out of this situation, afterall he could handle/talk Johnny round and he was the only one who could speak his mind to him and still live to tell
the tale! Jake and Johnny had mutal respect, trust and loyalty towards one another. They were indeed like "Father and Son"

Babe14

21-10-2006, 12:37

Your so right, it's full of loophole's ! I am have someone who agree's with me ! Wipppeeeeeeeee

Maybe Chrissie will be joining them too :lol:

LOL! That would be Jake's ideal ending, he would be a very happy bunny, providing Ruby didn't show as well!

BlackKat

23-10-2006, 18:10

Babe14

24-10-2006, 09:31

I love how Jake got barely 10 minutes in his final episode. In fact, I love how the entire week the whole storyline had to fight for space alongside some bollocks about Denise and her multiple fathers. I love how they brought Johnny Allen back only to do bugger all with him. I love how they brought up Jake covering for Chrissie again after all these months only to bring nothing new to the topic. I love how they contradicted the countless times they showed the differences between Jake and Danny by having Jake agreeing to do Johnny's dirty work just like Danny did. I love how they brought up the issue of why Johnny has a hold over Jake (a hold that has never been shown before) only to never answer the question.

And by "love," I mean "hate."

Things I did actually love or at least like: Jake's rant at Ruby. Gold. The one part of the episode I may actually watch again. In fact the one part of the whole storyline I may actually watch again. I'm glad he managed to leave with some dignity.

That Jake's last scene was with Pat. Because Pat rocks, and she was totally mothering him the last two weeks.

And that I stopped hoping for a good exit a long time ago so that I wasn't actually disappointed or upset during the last episode, just rolled my eyes a lot and was glad they can finally stop crapping all over the character now.

Oh, and that I've now stopped watching EE. I love that fact.

Anyway, I can only echo D1 by saying it's been great posting on this thread - I kinda feel like it's "our" thread and I'm gonna miss chatting with you all and discussing Jake - it almost made the bad times seem halfway decent. I love all our crazy theories ("Daddy" theory will never die! Johnny wanted it "kept in the family," hmmm.... ) and our joint obsessions (rugged leather jacket! scruffy trainers! Brown pinstripe jacket! Still can't believe they only used that jacket once. :rolleyes: ) Thanks guys, it's been fun. :wub:

Hello, nice to have the chance to talk to you one final time in this wonderful and what has been fun thread. I have thoroughly enjoyed talking, discussing, highs and lows, good and bad times, "Obssessing" and theories about "Our Jake". Thanks to everyone involved espec you BK.:)

I just loved that final showdown with Ruby where Jake really told Ruby what he thought of her (his expressions and attitude here was wonderful)
"..Your one of lifes suckers Ruby, Johnny knows it and so does Sean. That's why I pity you", and what other people thought too, I was slightly surprised to find out that Jake didn't like her at all just pittied her and at the end of the day the only reason he was putting up with her was because of Johnny. As for this Hold Johnny had on Jake, even though Jake said there was no hold I think that there was:D and I am certain that there was more to Johnny/Jake than we will ever know now.
Jake should of had that happy ending not death. Even though this is what we are suppose to believe, I have my own theory about this one:p (sorry just had to one last time)

Even though I wanted him to smack the crap out of "Leech" I liked the way Jake handled him that final time:,
"What do you reckon the Carribean for a couple of months? I fancy Australia"
"Your right I was kidding myself thinking that I had a purpose here.."
"I might be back one day..."
"..that's the difference between you and me Sean I have a conscience..."
"Walford is the only thing I have to get away from..."
(I think that this summed things up perfectly:p )

Afterwards I loved the way he walked over to Ruby, who had just been told that Johnny was dead, and said "Congratulations your finally on your own" (And she was) then his final parting shot "oh..enjoy the rest of your birthday" (Beautiful!)
Yes in the end Jake was the winner.
I didn't particularly enjoy this storyline but I enjoyed Jake and his wonderfully unique personality, which we saw in great detail and variety.
The other scene I liked was when Jake was inthe Vic at the fruit machine talking to Johnny about getting rid of Sean, he looked very sinister and Dark there:wub:
Finally the sadest thing for me is that in the end Jake was happy he was fianlly free of all his burdens, of people who messed things up for him, free to be happy and have his own life. He was going abroad to start afresh, to be happy, but he never got that...or did he?

P.S Finally, finally I loved the fact that we saw Jake in in his battered leather a lot during his final scenes. Also the fact that Jake went out on a high with us still loving him.

(The best thing for me is that I too no longer have to suffer anymore EE!)

Nigella harman

15-11-2006, 11:52

I cant believe they havent found a body yet,they said it would be made clear he was dead didnt they?On his homepage it says that hes missing presumed dead,do they mean we presume hes dead cause no one on the square thinks he is?And hes not on that death map.Id love to see him come back.:thumbsup:

JustJodi

15-11-2006, 14:26

Is Danny on the death map too ???
Is Paul Trueman on the Death map ??
or does EE add them after they are FOR SURE they are not coming back from the dead ???:hmm: :hmm:

Nigella harman

15-11-2006, 14:38

Is Danny on the death map too ???
Is Paul Trueman on the Death map ??
or does EE add them after they are FOR SURE they are not coming back from the dead ???:hmm: :hmm: Ive just had a look!!!Danny and Paul Trueman are both on death map!:ninja: Ive noticed in the upcoming spoilers theres no sign of him being found either!?:searchme:

JustJodi

15-11-2006, 15:14

Ive just had a look!!!Danny and Paul Trueman are both on death map!:ninja: Ive noticed in the upcoming spoilers theres no sign of him being found either!?:searchme:

But but but they never found Danny-boy's body... I guess no one actually has MISSED him ??

Richie_lecturer

15-11-2006, 17:15

Danny's body fell into the black hole that nobody dares mention. :ninja:

Babe14

19-11-2006, 10:46

We actually saw Danny shot and dead and burried.

Jake we never saw killed or anyone holding a gun to his head.

All we heard and saw was someone coming up to him and saying "Jake Moon?" to which Jake never answered.

So they have left the door well and truly open for Jake to return if Joel so wishes.
If he does return one day I hope it is only a very short visit with Alfie where all the lose ends are tied up and we hear what actually happened that night. Also if this happened I would want to hear that Jake is living happily in Australia where he met someone and they married, are very happy and have kids. Alfie and Jake both leave the square together and go their seperate ways at the airport - Jake back to Aussie and Alfie back to America.. or alternatively Pat one day receives a letter from Jake detailing the above scenario, think I would prefer this.

Nigella harman

19-11-2006, 18:32

Pinkbanana

19-11-2006, 23:26

Yeah,i think hes still with us and not quite a :angel: yet!!Still hoping he comes back to sort out scruffy Sean,and kick his butt off our screens!!!:cheer:

Oh how I'd love the lush Jake to come back and kick the scruffy one into next week. I miss Jake :(

Babe14

20-11-2006, 09:39

If Jake was to make a return I would definitely start watching again (although I did watch a bit of Enders yesterday), espec if he was to kick Sean "Leech" The scruff backside well into the next decade, that would be a great comeback. However it would have to be done sooner rahter than later if left too long then it has to be only a very brief re-appearance otherwise the lovely character that Jake is/was would face that terrible U-turn. Also they would have to use the character "Correctly" this time and not dump on him from a great height as they did before.

Yes when I do watch the odd bit I do miss Jake, espec when I see Scarlets and the house, I just keep sighing and thinking if only things had worked out differently...also I miss the actor he comes across as a lovely person.

Babe14

20-11-2006, 09:52

Yeah,i think hes still with us and not quite a :angel: yet!!Still hoping he comes back to sort out scruffy Sean,and kick his butt off our screens!!!:cheer:

Jake could never be a:angel: he's face is too cheeky looking:lol: and oh when he goes psycho....eek but I find him very sexy when he's like that, sorry I mean found:crying:

Yeah bring Jake back to destroy scruffy! If they did that I would become a dedicated viewer again:lol:

Nigella harman

20-11-2006, 10:08

Jake could never be a:angel: he's face is too cheeky looking:lol: and oh when he goes psycho....eek but I find him very sexy when he's like that, sorry I mean found:crying:

Yeah bring Jake back to destroy scruffy! If they did that I would become a dedicated viewer again:lol: I sent an email to inside soap mag the other day saying scruffy is awful,a terrible and annoying character and we want the fab Jake Moon back,now!!!He is missed!!!:lol: Just so long as they dont find a body theres still hope for us!!!The upcoming spoilers dont mention a body being found either and thats almost a month ahead!:thumbsup:

Babe14

20-11-2006, 10:42

Maybe that's what we should all do start a campaign for Jake Moon again only this time to bring him back, but he would have to be used correctly or it would be a waste of time, i.e have his fair share of viewing time and decent storylines. The character had so much potential and to be blunt it was just flushed down the toilet, so that is why in away I am glad that the character has left.

To me and as I have said many times in this thread Jake Moon was one of the lovliest and "unique" characters I have seen over the years, I think a lot of this was down to the actor, Joel Beckett who was/is wonderful.

One of the problems with Scruff is that he has been over used and as far as I can tell he has never been off the screen since he landed in the square.

Back to Jake - I don't think a body will be found, I think that things will just be left as they are for us to draw our own conclusions. I'm surpirsed that Pat hasn't noticed that Jake isn't around given how close the two of them were and that Jake told her he was just going to a mate's for the weekend, also there is the fact that Ruby/Scruff are living in his house. Or has this been explained?

Pinkbanana

20-11-2006, 11:57

I sent an email to inside soap mag the other day saying scruffy is awful,a terrible and annoying character and we want the fab Jake Moon back,now!!!He is missed!!!:lol: Just so long as they dont find a body theres still hope for us!!!The upcoming spoilers dont mention a body being found either and thats almost a month ahead!:thumbsup:

How many e mails have you been sending,?! Didnt you send one to the Beeb too? Bless! Hope you sent one to points of view?

You know Im with you on the ol' scruffy one front, but I dont see how Jake can come back in the future, as there is no one, with the exception of Pat for him in Walford anymore. :( I would love him back and I guess it all depends how broke Joel is in the future as to whether EE can lure him back). Though by then they may have got rid of the scruffy demented grinning one, and brought in someone more Jake/Dennis like (fingers crossed). :D

Babe14

20-11-2006, 12:26

I guess it all depends how broke Joel is in the future as to whether EE can lure him back). Though by then they may have got rid of the scruffy demented grinning one, and brought in someone more Jake/Dennis like (fingers crossed). :D

To be honest I can't see Joel ever wanting to make a return to Enders. Hopefully Scruff will upset Phil....:D or maybe Max will catch him coming onto Tanya...

It won't work to bring in the same character/s in the form of a different actor, all been done before unsuccessfully, they need to have their own personality as both did Jake and D.

Nigella harman

21-11-2006, 11:50

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6243/soaplife005di2.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soaplife005di2.jpg)This was in inside soap.

Babe14

21-11-2006, 13:16

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6243/soaplife005di2.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soaplife005di2.jpg)This was in inside soap.

:crying: Ah well at least we now know and I think it's for the best. I'm happy because it looks as though it was Joel's decision more than anyone else's:D obviously he wants to move on.

I love his cheeky little comment "Ask me in five years time and I'll tell you if I believe in Dream sequences or bringing people back from the grave:lol:

So I'm guessing that sometime in the future Pat will hear about Jake's fate (just in time for xmas) and this will be the next Walford funeral..

Not really what I wanted for the character as I thought he deserved happiness and what was worse he looked as though he finally was going to get it..still ce le vie. I suppose in a way he did get a sort of happiness, being reunited with Danny and Nana Moon. All we need now is to hear that Chrissie has died and Jake will have the woman of his dreams with him too:p

Thanks for posting that.