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BlackKat
07-09-2005, 18:16
I do think that Chrissie is leading Jake up the garden path a bit at the mo and pulling the wool over his eyes and I don't think that she really cares that much about him at the mo. I can't help thinking poor Jakey what everyone is telling him is the truth and Chrissie isn't being at all honest with him. There are going to be big fireworks here when Jakey figures things out...

While I agree that Chrissie does need to be honest with him, I don't think she's doing it out of any desire to manipulate him - just that she doesn't want to lose him. After all "It was me that killed Den, do you want another pint?" wouldn't go down well. (On that note, it appears Jake no longer has to pay for his drinks in the Vic, which is one bonus for him, :lol: )

I think he was avoiding her a bit - he didn't go in the Vic all day, didn't return her calls, and wouldn't go upstairs, which would have been the best place for it if he was going to ask about her selling the Vic.

sarahwelford
07-09-2005, 19:08
well in the new soap magazines out it says who does chrissie confess to?
Thats in all about soap
and soaplife has picture of jake and chrissie and says suprises.
But i think even if she confesses jake will stand by her. Not sure why i think that

BlackKat
07-09-2005, 19:16
well in the new soap magazines out it says who does chrissie confess to?
Thats in all about soap
and soaplife has picture of jake and chrissie and says suprises.
But i think even if she confesses jake will stand by her. Not sure why i think that

Yep, I think she confesses soon -- I haven't seen any full articles on it, just previews of the next issue.

sarahwelford
07-09-2005, 19:19
i really think jake will not well maybe he is bothered but i dont think they will split over it.
He will probably go away for few days and get his head around it

BlackKat
07-09-2005, 19:32
I honestly don't know how I think Jake will react. Part of me thinks "He loves her, he's not naive, he'll understand." And then the other part pops up with "Dude, she freaking killed her husband and buried him under a ton of cement. He's going to freak."

sarahwelford
07-09-2005, 19:34
yes i think he will freak but when he has calmed down.
But i am thinking does she confess all she could say she was there but zoe hit him or some thing.
Just cause it says she confesses does nt mean she confesses she did it.

BlackKat
07-09-2005, 19:44
If she lies, I will...scream. Because she can't do that. At all. That's not her saying "I won't tell him because I'll lose him," or "I'll tell him everything because I trust him." That's her saying "I'll give him a half-assed, fake confession so he stops being suspicious and I can go back to happily getting away with murder." And if they take that route, I'll be the one reaching for the doorstop.

kelly05
07-09-2005, 19:55
Chrissie is definitely just using Jake, cos really she doesn't have anyone else...does she? I think that Jake could also be key to Chrissies lies unravelling because I suspect that he knows alot more than he is letting on! His behaviour with Chrissie in last nights episode was really suspicious, as if he can tell that Chrissie is not telling the full truth. Also I don't think he entirely believed what he was saying when he was defending her to Dennis...

Blondie
07-09-2005, 20:49
If she lies, I will...scream. Because she can't do that. At all. That's not her saying "I won't tell him because I'll lose him," or "I'll tell him everything because I trust him." That's her saying "I'll give him a half-assed, fake confession so he stops being suspicious and I can go back to happily getting away with murder." And if they take that route, I'll be the one reaching for the doorstop.

I really don't think she'll lie. What would be the point of her telling him Zoe hit him or some other half hearted lie, that's of no benefit to anyone and they're no further forwards. I reckon it'll be a real confession, all tears and unravelling the lies. Remember when we were hoping for a night of confession between them Kat? I reckon this could well be it!

Katie :)

BlackKat
07-09-2005, 21:01
I really don't think she'll lie. What would be the point of her telling him Zoe hit him or some other half hearted lie, that's of no benefit to anyone and they're no further forwards. I reckon it'll be a real confession, all tears and unravelling the lies. Remember when we were hoping for a night of confession between them Kat? I reckon this could well be it!

Katie :)

I really hope so! They can do this so well, or they can do it so wrong. I guess this is the problem when I want to trust the show but at the same I'm quite sure if I should, y'know. I don't think she'll lie either though. It wouldn't help Jake and Chrissie, and it wouldn't help the storyline, and it would be a huge anti-climax, and just...be completely lame. :lol: And EE is a little unsteady on its feet, but it's not at the completely lame stage yet, lol.

sarahwelford
07-09-2005, 23:06
it would be good if there was a two hander with just chrissie and jake in which she confesses to him

Sam Nixon Fan
07-09-2005, 23:22
thing is though he carnt be too judgemental as after all he is an acceseray to murder himself he may not have actually done the deed but h ewas there didnt report it and covered it up so for him to run away and jusge her would by quite hypercritical!!!

sarahwelford
07-09-2005, 23:43
yes it would maybe he tells her what happened aswell.

Babe14
08-09-2005, 08:06
I think that Chrissie will lie to Jakey at first and I think that he'll know that she isn't being completely honest. The other night I definitely think that Jakey was going to ask her about the Vic, there again on the other hand I think he was waiting to see if Chrissie would tell him. Remember when Danny was in on the Andy deal and Jakey found out via Alfie? He took Danny down the club with him and gently prised the truth out of him, after giving him the chance to tell him.

I think that there will be hurt and betrayal in store for Jakey and therefore a rocky time ahead for him and Chrissie.

Babe14
08-09-2005, 08:12
Preview pics:

Monday 12th:

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1820/sept12section60sp.jpg

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8237/sept12section93jq.jpg

^It appears Jake has come back minus a brother, but gained a lot of new t-shirts. Not complaining though. :wub:

LOL Great minds thinking alike:)


Tuesday 13th:
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9329/sept13section26ya.jpg <-- jeans! Bum shot! Bum shot with jeans!

Half a bum shot..more like a side bum shot :lol: *Lush* Also Jakey has brought new jeans! *Lush*

BlackKat
08-09-2005, 08:22
Maybe Jake lied when he said Danny had gone travelling, and really he just traded him in for some new clothes, :lol:

I'm not sure how Jake and Chrissie keep things secret until next Tuesday though, cos it looks like he's practically living there.

Babe14
08-09-2005, 08:27
LOL! I'm really looking forward to the truth coming out and how Jake will react.

It's lovely to see lots of Jakey.

BlackKat
08-09-2005, 08:30
It's Naked Jake Day! :cheer: Yep, we're gonna be seeing a lot of him -- well, not all of him of course, but quite a bit, :lol:

JustJodi
08-09-2005, 08:51
It's Naked Jake Day! :cheer: Yep, we're gonna be seeing a lot of him -- well, not all of him of course, but quite a bit, :lol: BK am I gonna need my heart pills ???? :rotfl:

Layne
08-09-2005, 17:56
Haha i just seen the preveiw for tonights eppi! Sharons face honestly is a picture in itself!!!

Happy Naked Jake Day!!! xxx

Amber
08-09-2005, 19:28
2 minutes to go girlies! I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG!

Debs
08-09-2005, 21:05
oh my im very surprised thought there would be loads of posts about jake and his chest!!!!

BlackKat
08-09-2005, 21:13
"You really are something." Amen to that. Oh, he's perfect. I want one. Why can't I have one? *sulk*

Loved how them being in bed together, wasn't actually about them being in bed together. That wasn't what it was about, they could have been talking in the kitchen, or the living room.

Hee! They're so cute, with their secret kissing, and holding hands over the bar. And you just want everything to be alright for them, but you know it won't be.

Jake knows exactly what she's done. He's not stupid. He definitely knows she's done something, and even if he's denying it, he's knows what it is. I don't think she's going to lie. I think she's going to take a chance and she's going to trust him.

Layne
08-09-2005, 21:32
It was so cute!! Chrissie i think knows jake knows! I'm sure she';ll tell him, loved all the secret hand holding and kissing! :wub:
then sharon 'Bitch' , well sharon love you have dennis its only fair!!!

Kat honey i think we all want on too!

Babe14
09-09-2005, 07:27
*Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud*

======*Teddy Bear Jakey*======

*Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush*

Babe14
09-09-2005, 07:40
"You really are something." Amen to that. Oh, he's perfect. I want one. Why can't I have one? *sulk*

I want one too *Teddy Bear Jakey* :wub:

He is soo Gorgeous.


Loved how them being in bed together, wasn't actually about them being in bed together. That wasn't what it was about, they could have been talking in the kitchen, or the living room.

Hee! They're so cute, with their secret kissing, and holding hands over the bar. And you just want everything to be alright for them, but you know it won't be.

Like a couple of teenagers.:)


Jake knows exactly what she's done. He's not stupid. He definitely knows she's done something, and even if he's denying it, he's knows what it is. I don't think she's going to lie. I think she's going to take a chance and she's going to trust him.

I'm not entirely sure he knows that she killed Den, there again I think that Jakey may suspect that Chrissie could of. One things for sure Jakey knows that Chrissie is hiding something and wants to tell him, all he has to do is convince Chrissie that she can trust him, which he keeps doing, reassuring her and be patient, wait for her to tell him in her own time.

I thought that Jakey could be shocked and angry when he found out the truth, but providing Chrissie tells Jake the whole truth and doesn't lie to him, I don't think he will be. Jake will stand by her, talk things over with her and maybe even tell Chrissie about his part in Andy's murder. One thing I feel certain of is that once everything is out in the open the bond between the two will be unbreakable, no one or anything will ever separate them.

Jakey and Chrissie don't have secrets.

:crying: Except the fact that TAO is leaving:crying:

We are already learning more about Jakey's character and he has been back for less than a week..says it all really..

Babe14
09-09-2005, 07:45
oh my im very surprised thought there would be loads of posts about jake and his chest!!!!

And wasn't he just gorgeous:wub: This time we were able to have a really good *Drool* I mean look :lol:

I think that this is just a taste of things to come.. maybe we will get to see that hankie afterall...

Babe14
09-09-2005, 07:48
then sharon 'Bitch' ,

I thought you said it love (meaning Sharon) who does she think she is barging in like that. I think that she has turned into Den....

I love the way Jakey went "You've got to be kidding" I don't think Sharon better give either Chrissie or Jake too much agro because I am sure Jakey won't think twice about putting Sharon well and truly in her place.

BlackKat
09-09-2005, 07:52
I thought you said it love (meaning Sharon) who does she think she is barging in like that. I think that she has turned into Den....

I love the way Jakey went "You've got to be kidding" I don't think Sharon better give either Chrissie or Jake too much agro because I am sure Jakey won't think twice about putting Sharon well and truly in her place.

I know - like I said in the episode thread, logically I can see why Sharon is upset. I just don't care that she is. Who barges into someone's bedroom? And if she did know they were in there, she's lucky they were under the covers, and not actually in the act. Pervert.

I think Jake would put Sharon in her place as well -- I think he'll let Chrissie handle it because he doesn't want to overstep the mark, but if Chrissie wanted him to he wouldn't think twice about stepping in. Cos he doesn't care what anyone thinks, and that includes Sharon. :wub:

BlackKat
09-09-2005, 07:56
And I loved the scene with Jake and Alfie in the market as well - Jake's comments about Sharon expecting Chrissie to wear a long black veil. :lol: I don't think Jake and Alfie is a patch on Jake and Danny when they would get into a banter and start niggling each other (cos even though Danny was clingy and needy they did have some cute scenes) but I still like it. Plus you know Danny would be useless at giving advice.

Babe14
09-09-2005, 08:13
And I loved the scene with Jake and Alfie in the market as well - Jake's comments about Sharon expecting Chrissie to wear a long black veil. :lol: I don't think Jake and Alfie is a patch on Jake and Danny when they would get into a banter and start niggling each other (cos even though Danny was clingy and needy they did have some cute scenes) but I still like it. Plus you know Danny would be useless at giving advice.

I'm loving the Jakey/Alfie realtionship and the humour is building slowly there. I loved the way Jake said that he thinks he should take a leaf out of Kat's book and just go with the flow and especailly the look he gave Alfie at the end of that scene.
Arrrrgh they had Alfie running round the Square AGAIN.

I sort of agree about Danny, him and Jakey were perfect with the commical moments/comments and winding one another up. They had something special there. Have to admit though I'm not missing Danny.

Maybe they will have Dennis and Jake winding one another up, (we had a bit of it the other night) which I can see happening over Chrissie and Jake's realtionship and especially as Sharon is sticking her nose in where it isn't wanted. Like you I can see where she's coming from but even so..

Jakey was on top form with his little Commical digs/comments tonight. I love the way Jakey keeps saying "It's water off a ducks back to me" he really doesn't give a toss what people think and I love that, it makes the character strong. It brings out a bit of his brutal streak.

JustJodi
09-09-2005, 08:30
oh my im very surprised thought there would be loads of posts about jake and his chest!!!!

Deb every one was in a state of shock :lol: i nearly fell off the sofa when I saw his chest,, had to shut off the subtitles so i could get a better look ..drrrrrrrrrroooooooooollllllll:thumbsup:

JustJodi
09-09-2005, 08:35
*Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud* *Thud*

======*Teddy Bear Jakey*======

*Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush* *Lush*

:wall: :love: :wall: :love: :wall: :love: wasn't he lucious,, and yea I want one of those Teddy Bear Jakeys too :love:

Debs
09-09-2005, 10:26
Deb every one was in a state of shock :lol: i nearly fell off the sofa when I saw his chest,, had to shut off the subtitles so i could get a better look ..drrrrrrrrrroooooooooollllllll:thumbsup:


oh my yeah he is a little bit dishy BUT i thought he was a bit hairy!! i was cringing whenever chrissie put her face on it!!! chest hair makes me heave!!!

JustJodi
09-09-2005, 10:33
oh my yeah he is a little bit dishy BUT i thought he was a bit hairy!! i was cringing whenever chrissie put her face on it!!! chest hair makes me heave!!!

Debs sweetie to each their own:p ,, I thought his chest was just PERFECT:D

Sam Nixon Fan
09-09-2005, 11:04
awwww how sweet where they!! Grrrrrrr sharon is soo annoying it was completly rude how she just barged in and Disrupted that lovely scene we were witnessing

JustJodi
09-09-2005, 11:07
awwww how sweet where they!! Grrrrrrr sharon is soo annoying it was completly rude how she just barged in and sisrupted that lovely scene we were witnessing:hmm: :hmm: do u think we were rude WATCHING them too :lol:

Sam Nixon Fan
09-09-2005, 11:09
Lol nope as the viewer we are allowed that privilage and enjoyment of thier scenes and we arnt being completly annoying like sharon bossing everyone around!

Debs
09-09-2005, 11:28
Debs sweetie to each their own:p ,, I thought his chest was just PERFECT:D


im just not a hairy chest lover but jake is lovely.

Debs
09-09-2005, 11:29
awwww how sweet where they!! Grrrrrrr sharon is soo annoying it was completly rude how she just barged in and Disrupted that lovely scene we were witnessing

i know hasnt she heard of knocking!!! i mean i wouldnt dream of just barging into anyones bedroom

JustJodi
09-09-2005, 11:40
i know hasnt she heard of knocking!!! i mean i wouldnt dream of just barging into anyones bedroom
Sharon showed she can be totally tactless in that episode,, she could have stayed down in the bar and served the punters, and then when Chrissie and Jake came down lookin all loved up then she could put 2 and 2 together.. but noooooo she had to go stomping up the stairs and down the hall and opening the door :angry:

Debs
09-09-2005, 11:47
Sharon showed she can be totally tactless in that episode,, she could have stayed down in the bar and served the punters, and then when Chrissie and Jake came down lookin all loved up then she could put 2 and 2 together.. but noooooo she had to go stomping up the stairs and down the hall and opening the door :angry:


serves her right then dont it!!! i mean you would have known what had gone on between the two of them by the rather big smiles on their faces!! How would she feel??

Carrie Bradshaw
12-09-2005, 00:37
Not sure if this has already been posted somewhere, but came across this interview with Joel on the Sunday Mail website and thought some people might want to read it. Its from 28th August so its a bit out of date.


JOEL IS OVER THE MOON AS AXED JAKE MAKES HIS SOAP COMEBACK

EastEnders star is grateful for his second shot at stardom
By Steve Hendry
EastEnders star Joel Beckett looks pretty good for a man returning from the dead.

Relaxed and tanned, a brush with the axeman of Albert Square obviously hasn't done him any harm.

The 32-year-old actor makes his return to Walford as Jake Moon this week following an enforced break.

On screen, he was run out of town after his mad brother Danny - played by Jake Maskall - set fire to the gaff of gangster Johnny Allen (Billy Murray).

Joel, who shot to fame as domineering Lee in The Office, was deemed surplus to requirements in Albert Square earlier this year after just a few months in the job.

It was a shock, as the Moon brothers had been touted as the flagging show's saviours and were popular with fans.


Advertisement

But a change of producer who felt Jake and Danny were two dodgy geezers too many meant the brothers Moon were eclipsed.


Or at least they were until the letters of complaint started to flood in and Heat magazine ran a campaign demanding their reinstatement.


It led to a change of heart... at least as far as Joel was concerned.


It wasn't an easy time but Joel is delighted to be back.


He said: "Being called in and told you are not going to carry on is not nice, especially when you think, 'Why?' The character's successful and everything's going well. It hurts your pride.


"We got lots of letters of support - people were wondering what was going on and I'm not going to lie and say I didn't agree with them.


"But, ultimately, I'm an actor and it's not my decision to make. And every actor just has to be sure they know that what they are doing is a job. If it becomes any more than a job, don't do it. The only guarantee in this game is that whatever you are doing, be it a six-part series or a soap, it will end one day and it is probably not going to be your choice to make.


"But, hey, I got a reprieve and I'm back and hopefully doing what people want. It's nice to be asked back and to continue in the role."


In the end, he was only off the show for four weeks and enjoyed a holiday, hence the tan and relaxed demeanour which has caused much jealousy among pasty-faced colleagues holed up at the soap's studios in Elstree.


But it isn't the only time Joel has enjoyed a second chance.


Just after the first series of The Office - in which he Joel with screen brother Danny (Jake Maskallplayed Lee, the storeman who stood between the romance of Tim (Martin Freeman) and Dawn (Lucy Davis) - he became so disillusioned with acting he was on the verge of giving up.


He had been plodding away for six years since leaving drama college and, despite getting regular work in shows such as The Bill, felt he was making no real headway.


Joel said: "It's one of those careers where you sometimes need something to happen to convince you this is what you really want to do."


He got that in spades with the reaction to The Office. And he was soon making the second series and the Christmas specials before setting up his own production company and making the football hooligan film Green Street - which received its premiere at the Edinburgh International Film Festival last week - alongside Lord of the Rings star Elijah Wood and Marc Warren.


He said: "I had such a good time making Green Street I had to ask myself, 'What were you thinking?' This is what want to do. It was a fantastic experience. I really enjoyed working with Marc and Elijah. played the bar manager where the hooligans all meet up before games. I got to do loads of fighting. My pub gets fire-bombed and I smash someone with a fire extinguisher. even got to wear prosthetics! get a big gammy eye.


"Just after that, EastEnders came up. And when you put that together with The Office, I've got to say, I've had my breaks.


"The Office was an absolute gift. It was fantastic and felt like that from the start. When we read for the pilot episode, nobody really knew each other but everyone finished reading and went, 'This is a bit special'. To go from pilot to winning two Golden Globes says it all.


"I was the only straight man in the entire show. I never had a single gag . You were never quite sure if he was an a******e or not.


"I'm very proud to have been part of it. That makes it all worthwhile and it's something to tell the grandkids."


The success of The Office helped Joel deal with the public recognition.


He said: "I'd been quite used to people saying, 'You're not as big as you look on TV, are you?' "I was prepared for it after The Office. But it's never been a problem. People say it changes your life and it does to a degree but you can handle it in different ways. You can embrace it and maybe take it too far as plenty of people have in the past. You can ignore it or you can just try to enjoy it.


"If someone asks me if I'm from EastEnders and can they have a photograph, then, of course, it's no problem. It's part of the job.


"I still get recognised from The Office which is quite refreshing compared to EastEnders because it's been and gone and finished and I'm not terrified of giving something away!"


Joel returns to Walford to save his lover Chrissie Watts (Tracy-Ann Oberman) from justice - and just about everyone in Albert Square - when Dirty Den's body is dug up this week. And fans will see a new side to Jake.


Joel said: "Before he went away it was him and Danny and it was the two lads together. He comes back and the basics are still the same. He still plays his cards close to his chest but he's more of a man, if that doesn't sound too pompous.


"There's a steamy passion in the relationship between him and Chrissie. It's not so much in what they do as what they say. They smoulder at each other which is good fun to film.


"It helps that I'm mates with Tracy Ann but you can't help but laugh when you are doing that stuff.


"Basically, Jake's on a rescue mission. The clock's ticking and he's trying to save Chrissie's backside from the mess she's got herself into. I feel like Jack Bauer in 24.

BlackKat
12-09-2005, 16:28
Thanks for that Carrie. :cheer:

BlackKat
13-09-2005, 08:43
Jake looks so good behind the bar, :wub: Aw, and he even designs posters. :lol:

Babe14
13-09-2005, 09:16
I want him, he is just so adorable and yes I agree Jakey is just divine behnid the bar. I loved his poster he is just so talented and I am really looking forward to seeing this new side of Jake.

Jakey and Chrissie were just so sweet last night and I especially loved it when they were cuddled up together at the end of the bar.:wub:

Jake is so loving and Joel was doing lots of different expressions again.:wub:

I just have to say this Sharon shut up! No wonder D has done a vanishing act!

P.S. BK we will have to come up with some good "Theories" for Jakey as Joel has said that as long as they come up with good stroylines for him he'll be there.:D

P.S.s I love your banner ummm *Naked* Jakey *Teddy Bear* Jakey.. Why haven't I found someone like him. I either get the Phil Mitchell or Ian Beale types LOL

Babe14
13-09-2005, 09:19
Another new T shirt, Lovely. I think he's had a win on the lotto or on a scratch card !LOL

BlackKat
13-09-2005, 09:28
I still say he's traded Danny in for the t-shirts. :lol:

And I still want the "Daddy" theory to come true, :wub: I think it could work even with Johnny leaving.

kirsty_g
13-09-2005, 15:55
yeah

BlackKat
13-09-2005, 20:10
Jake in his boxers... :wub: *thud* :wub:

Layne
13-09-2005, 21:25
I am loving Jake behind the bar tis so cute!!! And the way he is in the Vic every morning with Chrissie!!! :wub:

and he is calling her sweetheart and she is calling him darling! Tis so cute!!

Jake looked as lush as ever tonight in that Grey shirt! :wub:

BlackKat
13-09-2005, 22:09
I think he wore that shirt that time when he was supposed to take Chrissie to lunch and Danny kicked off. Ah, memories. *glares at memory of Danny*

By the way, can anyone tell what his t-shirt said yesterday? I can make out "Festival" and "72" but the big word is just swirly. Ah, who cares, he looked hot in it. :lol:

[/random clothes obsession]

Layne
13-09-2005, 22:11
yeh i love that shirt! and he looking very good in all his new clothes!!!

can;t wait until the scarf comes out again! Making its reapperance soon hopefully! xx

Babe14
14-09-2005, 07:46
I think he wore that shirt that time when he was supposed to take Chrissie to lunch and Danny kicked off. Ah, memories. *glares at memory of Danny*

By the way, can anyone tell what his t-shirt said yesterday? I can make out "Festival" and "72" but the big word is just swirly. Ah, who cares, he looked hot in it. :lol:

[/random clothes obsession]

Saratosa or Saratosos as far as I could tell.

I'm not sure whether it was the same shirt or a new one in the same style i.e this one was grey and I thought the other might of been a very light brown.

Babe14
14-09-2005, 07:48
Jake in his boxers... :wub: *thud* :wub:

*Thud* *Thud*:wub:

Babe14
14-09-2005, 07:50
yeh i love that shirt! and he looking very good in all his new clothes!!!

can;t wait until the scarf comes out again! Making its reapperance soon hopefully! xx

Um..now there's a beautiful thought Jakey in just his scarf.......:wub:

Babe14
14-09-2005, 07:52
Yummy we had the "Joel" laugh tonight loveeeeeeeelllllllly!:love:

Babe14
14-09-2005, 07:55
I still say he's traded Danny in for the t-shirts. :lol:

And I still want the "Daddy" theory to come true, :wub: I think it could work even with Johnny leaving.

That's a must and it has to be done just right. Also the "mum" storyline complete with step brother and Step sister and lover. One for the future after "Jakissie":crying: just has to be the childhood sweetheart for Jakey's future new big romance. In between time Jakey has to have a casual fling type relationship with Dawn Miller.

Sam Nixon Fan
14-09-2005, 10:33
Nooo jake can be with anyone else other than Chrissie!! It just wouldnt seem right!!

BlackKat
14-09-2005, 16:24
Preview pics for Tuesday 20th:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9329/sept20section129nq.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/595/sept20section161ps.jpg

The jacket's back again. :wub:

Layne
14-09-2005, 16:56
Preview pics for Tuesday 20th:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9329/sept20section129nq.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/595/sept20section161ps.jpg

The jacket's back again. :wub:


Just seen these over at NHO, yey! The jacket is back!!!! And so are chrissie's bed beads! (sorry don't no where that came from probably the fact that she was wearing these beads in bed with jake!) sorry ignore me!!

thanks honey x

Carrie Bradshaw
14-09-2005, 20:04
Just seen these over at NHO, yey! The jacket is back!!!! And so are chrissie's bed beads! (sorry don't no where that came from probably the fact that she was wearing these beads in bed with jake!) sorry ignore me!!

thanks honey x
I saw someone wearing those beads today! Wish I'd asked them where they got them from - I want them! :)
Great pics Kat, thanks for posting!

Layne
14-09-2005, 20:07
I saw someone wearing those beads today! Wish I'd asked them where they got them from - I want them! :)
Great pics Kat, thanks for posting!


I have beads ;like that! Not the same but you no, like similar i wear them all the time!! They so go with curly hair!! hehe

brooksyrules
15-09-2005, 13:43
my fav scene of Jake was when he was locked in johnny's car and jake booted the window open and went 2 find danny

sarahwelford
16-09-2005, 00:53
very action man like i have beads like chrissie mine are from morgan

BlackKat
19-09-2005, 17:56
Heads up: there's an EastEnders revealed on Chrissie this Thursday on BBC 3, and Joel is one of the people interviewed on it. :) More info on the website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/news/news_content/news_20050919.shtml)

squillyfer
19-09-2005, 17:59
aww it looks really good but I know now that my mum wont let me watch it :(

Flozza
19-09-2005, 18:10
i don't have sky boo hoo boo hoo *crys*

Sam Nixon Fan
19-09-2005, 18:22
cool ill be taping that

BlackKat
19-09-2005, 20:41
And another new t-shirt -- blue looks good on him. :wub: Thought it was sweet tonight how he got Alfie a food parcel, and tried to help with the Little Mo/Kat situation. :)

squillyfer
19-09-2005, 20:56
What are you talking about he's sweet all the time lol I like the way he keeps defending chrissie even though he has his suspicions that theres something going on

Nigelisdabest
19-09-2005, 21:05
Jake is in a film called Green Street Holigans i saw it today its a great film he is only in it about 5 times only for a few minutes each time he works behind the bar he owns a pub. It is about football holiganism the whole film is based on it Elijah Wood is the main Character. It is a very good film if you are into football i would recomend it. I watched it as i am into football and its about West Ham and i am a West Ham fan and i was at the game where some of the film was filmed :thumbsup:. No one will probally interested but i thought you might want to know the Joel is in this film.

BlackKat
20-09-2005, 13:54
Scans of this weeks mags. :)

All About Soap

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/521/allaboutsoap17ci.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allaboutsoap17ci.jpg) http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/475/allaboutsoap24gy.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allaboutsoap24gy.jpg) http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1108/allaboutsoap34zj.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allaboutsoap34zj.jpg)

Soaplife

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7374/soaplife10dr.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soaplife10dr.jpg) http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8623/soaplife28gi.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soaplife28gi.jpg)

I think the "Johnny comes through for Jake and Chrissie," means they sell the pub to him -- hope this means we get some Jake and Johnny scenes, :cheer:


Just had a flick through Inside Soap, cos that's weekly so it was all focused on the France trip, but it did have the shortlist for the Inside Soap awards, and Joel's on it for both Sexiest Male and Best Newcomer. I think the awards are next Monday, and announced on Tuesday, so *fingers crossed*

squillyfer
20-09-2005, 17:42
Thankyou soooooo much for that it all looks graet and they said the story lines were so sad people actually cried so no doubt we'll all be in tears too when it all falls apart

xcutiekatiex
20-09-2005, 19:22
i wonder what will happpen when jake finds out

Carrie Bradshaw
20-09-2005, 20:32
:cheer: Thanks for those scans Kat - looks like we will get some more great acting from Tracy Ann! And thats great about Joel being shortlisted for those awards! :)

Sam Nixon Fan
20-09-2005, 21:09
OOOOo lots of Jake and Chrissie to come im excited already!!!

.:SpIcYsPy:.
20-09-2005, 21:30
Yay!! More Jakkissie.. will they ever get married *goes into a dream* :p

hayley
20-09-2005, 21:31
looks great as long as jake and chrisie dont split up!!

BlackKat
20-09-2005, 21:58
We got to see moody Jake again when he went off in a huff after Chrissie shoved him away, :cheer: I love it when he goes like that - mainly because it usually last about half an hour and then he comes back, :lol:

Still loving him behind the bar. :wub: And yet another scene of him in his boxers right at the beginning, *thud*


I don't Jake and Chrissie do split up when he finds out - at least not permanently. I think Jake's first instinct is to get out, but he eventually supports her.

Carrie Bradshaw
21-09-2005, 14:34
We got to see moody Jake again when he went off in a huff after Chrissie shoved him away, :cheer: I love it when he goes like that - mainly because it usually last about half an hour and then he comes back, :lol:
He can never sulk with her for long, can he!! :lol:

Still loving him behind the bar. :wub:
We even saw him pouring a pint yesterday! :)

Sam Nixon Fan
21-09-2005, 14:42
Bless him when Chrisse pulled away from him he looked upset!!! Ihope we havnt seen the last of their lovey dovey scenes!

sarahwelford
21-09-2005, 17:02
i dont think we will of seen the last i mean she asks him move in with her soon does nt she

BlackKat
22-09-2005, 20:43
Aw Joel looked so hot on the EE revealed, :wub: Didn't mention Jake/Chrissie at all, except at one point where it said that when if Chrissie does a runner she'd have to grab everything including her "toy boy lover," which made me laugh.

Amber
22-09-2005, 20:48
Aw Joel looked so hot on the EE revealed, :wub:
I know :wub:

Didn't mention Jake/Chrissie at all, except at one point where it said that when if Chrissie does a runner she'd have to grab everything including her "toy boy lover," which made me laugh.
Yeah :D

Jake's such a sweetheart :wub:

BlackKat
22-09-2005, 21:06
Made me laugh especially as it's his idea anyway -- so it's probably going to be more him grabbing her, :lol:



We got Jakey in a suit again -- and he so suspects Chrissie. All those little WTF looks he was giving her, :(

Amber
22-09-2005, 21:16
Made me laugh especially as it's his idea anyway -- so it's probably going to be more him grabbing her, :lol:



We got Jakey in a suit again -- and he so suspects Chrissie. All those little WTF looks he was giving her, :(
I know :(

I reckon there are going to be alot of sad scenes when Jake finds out his girlfriend is a murderer. Lots of crying scenes :crying:..

Poor Jakey :crying:

sarahwelford
22-09-2005, 23:10
i know but the thing is she made it obvious some thing was wrong the way she never looked at the coffin once she just kept rolling her head

BlackKat
23-09-2005, 21:45
Joel was amazing in the kitchen scene. Kinda like he didn't really want her to answer because he knew what the answer was likely to be, but he had to ask her anyway. And he sounded so confused...and the way he cupped her face, :wub:

And *thud* at the taking off of the tie. :lol: I find the oddest things sexy.


I can't believe we have to wait a week to see more of them. I'm half looking forward to the booze cruise (I like Juley, and am interested in meeting Dawn.) but next week is the completely wrong time to have it.

Amber
23-09-2005, 21:50
And *thud* at the taking off of the tie. :lol: I find the oddest things sexy.
You and I have that in common :D

BlackKat
23-09-2005, 22:03
It was the way he did it. And possibly the combination of it with the moody look. Yes, I think the look definitely played a part in the sexiness. :wub:

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 00:41
anythins joel seems to makes me weak at the knees

Rach33
24-09-2005, 14:14
I agree has anyone seen Green Street yet he's gorgeous in it and he's all manlyI saw it on Thursday

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 14:14
no not seen it what is it about

Rach33
24-09-2005, 14:17
It's about Football Hooligans and it stars Elijah Wood, Charlie Humman (Queer as Folk) and Marc Warren (From Hustle) it's brilliant Joel Beckett is the owner of the pub where they all drink I was surprised by how much I enjoyed the film

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 14:18
oh great sounds good
might get my bf take me to see it if its football he will be willing

Rach33
24-09-2005, 14:19
It's worth me and my mate only went cos Joel was in it but it was a fantastic watch contains tons of violence definately my kind of film

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 14:20
he owes me a night out and what better to go and see joel.
I was wondering have you got hotmail

Rach33
24-09-2005, 14:26
yeah I have and it's defo worth it

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 14:26
i was wondering you any good at fanfics need some help with mine

Rach33
24-09-2005, 14:31
I'll give you a hand if I can what's up

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 14:32
well i am stuck at a bit and need help

Rach33
24-09-2005, 14:34
If you want I'll ask one of the moderators if I can access your e-mail address for some reason I can't make my public and I tried yours but I couldn't access it either

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 14:34
ok thank you so much

Rach33
24-09-2005, 14:44
Sarah if you go onto my profile and click on download Vcard which is on the far left next to Add me to your buddy list and you can access my e-mail adress there

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 14:53
ok done it

Rach33
24-09-2005, 14:58
Wkd look forward to getting your e-mail

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 14:59
i have just sent it then you not got it

Rach33
24-09-2005, 15:00
Oh I have now

sarahwelford
24-09-2005, 15:01
hope you can help me

Nigelisdabest
24-09-2005, 21:28
Yes i saw the film i saw it last week and posted it in this thread. I was at West Ham match that was showed in the film. It was West Ham v Gillingham as i am a West Ham fan and i am a season ticket holder i go to all the games. And as the film was about West Ham i saw it and i am a football fan. Joel was great in the film hehe.

kerry4nigel
24-09-2005, 22:34
If anyones interested, there's a interview with Joel in this weeks edition of OK magazine, in the hot stars magazine that comes in the middle. There's a good picture and he looks so sweet:wub:

sarahwelford
25-09-2005, 02:23
i saw that to and he mentioned some scenes he had done recently that made him cry the question was when was the last time you really cried

Angeldelight
25-09-2005, 17:58
i saw that to and he mentioned some scenes he had done recently that made him cry the question was when was the last time you really cried

on friday watching Dennis fall apart... it was soooooo sad :crying: :crying:

alkalinetrio
26-09-2005, 14:23
:)

Sam Nixon Fan
26-09-2005, 14:31
:)

Sorry to be rude but can i ask why you just go around posting smily faces in every thread! Surely the board rules say you have to add something constructive to the discussion and i hardly think that adding a smily face to every single thread is verry useful!

BlackKat
27-09-2005, 08:43
Inside Soap Award results (http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=27251)

Joel didn't win. *sulks* Nigel Harman got Sexiest Male, and that camp dude from Corrie got Best Newcomer. I'm happy with the awards EE got, but still...*sulks*

BlackKat
01-10-2005, 09:17
Jake stakes claim in EastEnders (http://www.inthenews.co.uk/television/soaps/eastenders/jake-stakes-claim-in-eastenders-$15056044.htm)

:cheer:

Can't wait until next week -- looks like it's going to be amazing. :wub:

Carrie Bradshaw
01-10-2005, 12:47
Jake stakes claim in EastEnders (http://www.inthenews.co.uk/television/soaps/eastenders/jake-stakes-claim-in-eastenders-$15056044.htm)

:cheer:

Can't wait until next week -- looks like it's going to be amazing. :wub:
Its looking good :D - I'm so glad that Jake is staying on and will be getting some exciting storylines!! :cheer:

melanielovesdennisrickman
03-10-2005, 16:57
Hiya!!
Yeah,i am really really glad that Jake is staying,because he is such a great actor and character,and also he is sooooo fit,haha lol.
Shame Chrissie's leaving though!!

Love
:heart: Melanie :heart:

squillyfer
03-10-2005, 17:37
I know it is sad still at least when chrissie leaves we get to see sulky jake which will be cute beyond words

melanielovesdennisrickman
03-10-2005, 19:13
yeah,that's true,but soon he will be the only Moon in the sqaure,with Kalfie,and Nana Moon leaving:crying: :crying:

squillyfer
03-10-2005, 19:16
personally I wont mind him being the only moon in the square mabye then he will be able to come into his own and get away from the family name

melanielovesdennisrickman
03-10-2005, 19:18
yeah,that's true,i don't think that Jake really needs the rest of the Moon family the be a good character,because he works great on his own too,and he will be good as an independent person.Will he still live in the Moon house do you think??

squillyfer
03-10-2005, 19:20
I cant see it to be honest especially since johnny isnt sticking around and isnt it his house?

melanielovesdennisrickman
03-10-2005, 19:32
oh yeah that's true,but doesn;t Johnny get killed??
I'm sorry am i actually to talk about spoilers here??

BlackKat
03-10-2005, 19:47
Yeah we can talk about spoilers in here -- we've got a warning in the first post, and I'm sure if it becomes a problem the thread will be moved or something. :)


They'll probably forget about Johnny owning the house and Jake will stay there, I think. Where else would he live? He'd probably just end up paying rent to whoever owns the house once Johnny's gone.

melanielovesdennisrickman
03-10-2005, 20:00
A thanks god for that,i thought i was Breaking rules or something,haha lol!!
Yeah,i wouldn't know where else he would live either.
Maybe he gets a girlfriend on the Sqaure and they can live there together,and have little Jakes,lol!!

squillyfer
03-10-2005, 20:53
Nooooooooooooooooooo he cant get a girlfriend Jakissie forever lol although i would hate to see him unhappy and I suppose it is a waste lol

BlackKat
03-10-2005, 21:03
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! How fantastic was Joel in that ep? :cheer:

Especially that last scene - Although angry Jake was quite worrying -- the way he grabbed at her then shoved her away. :(

squillyfer
03-10-2005, 22:13
yeah it was a little worrying but you cant blame the guy for getting a little angry he has just realised his girlfriend (who he has admitted to loving):) is a murderer

sarahwelford
03-10-2005, 23:07
yes its understandable i mean he did give her a chance to tell the truth

melanielovesdennisrickman
04-10-2005, 06:32
Yes his reaction was completely understandable.
Great episode though,can't wait untill tonight!!

squillyfer
04-10-2005, 17:56
I cant wait till tonight either by the way I am totally in love with your banners sarahwelford and melanielovesdennisrickman they are the best!!!

melanielovesdennisrickman
04-10-2005, 18:22
Thanks,but i didn't make my banner spicyspy did,but you've got just 68 posts to go and then you can have a Banner too!!
I really like your banner too sarah welford,it looks soooooooo great!!

squillyfer
04-10-2005, 18:30
I know I cant wait to get my banner back

sarahwelford
04-10-2005, 19:02
thank you steff made it for me she is the best

BlackKat
25-10-2005, 20:18
*nudges up*

Said this over on the Jake&Chrissie thread, but I'll say it here too: I really hope Jake gets his own storyline next year. I can't help feeling Jakissie is more about Chrissie than Jake if that makes sense. And obviously, she is the main character in the storyline, but I want a bit more insight into Jake.

Apparently Johnny blackmails Jake into taking his old job back -- hope we get some good stuff out of that, and it isn't just a way of making things more desperate for Chrissie. I'd like to see Jake back working for Johnny. Maybe this is Johnny realising his ranks are a bit depleted.

Was also interested to hear Johnny say that he always follows through, and doesn't stop. Except when it comes to shooting Jake and Danny. Possibly (and likely) a character inconstancy. But still interesting. ;)

Tamzi
25-10-2005, 20:19
Jake and chrissie are starting to annoy me. I want her to leave and for Jake to go back to the rough, gangster-ish self. Not the lovey-dovey one
xxx

BlackKat
25-10-2005, 20:40
Jake and chrissie are starting to annoy me. I want her to leave and for Jake to go back to the rough, gangster-ish self. Not the lovey-dovey one
xxx

I agree. Part of me doesn't want Chrissie to leave because I do love her character...but she is, so now I just kinda want her to so Jake can move onto another storyline. And yes, hopefully get a bit of edge back. I'm hoping they were hinting at something with all the outbursts the week he found out. I think that would be interesting. I don't think Jake was ever a gangster, and I don't think he will become one as they want to move away from that, but I do want a bit more darkness back in him.

sarahwelford
25-10-2005, 23:36
i am staring to feel chrissie is using jake

BlackKat
26-10-2005, 08:21
Two pics of Joel from last nights NTAs. Pics are from WireImage.

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9879/62983720yi.jpg http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8702/62983746ev.jpg

:)

Tamzi
26-10-2005, 08:23
I turned on GMTV and they had a clip of nigel and Joel. Great thing to see in the morning! I do think Chrssie is using him a bit.
xxx

Layne
26-10-2005, 09:46
Two pics of Joel from last nights NTAs. Pics are from WireImage.

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9879/62983720yi.jpg http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8702/62983746ev.jpg

:)


He looks orge!

yeh there was a clip of him and nige on GMTV! They looked like they was having fun! x

BlackKat
26-10-2005, 13:54
I found more piccys!

Can't really remember where they're each from, but it's just the general image sites like Getty, Wire Image, Rex etc.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2082/557829gt7ys.jpg http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/9287/557829gu6zm.jpg http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/5974/63054638tv.jpg http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/308/237492402nl.jpg http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2326/237492414vh.jpg

BlackKat
26-10-2005, 19:32
i am staring to feel chrissie is using jake

This is my theory on this. Shameless cut and paste from my post over at the Jakissie boards but what the hell. (Actually I edited it a bit and added some more stuff on Jake because I have lots to say on him and the original post was more and Chrissie than Jake so I figured I better cut short.) :lol:

I think they're both using each other. I don't think either of them are doing in consciously, or maliciously, but I think they are.

Chrissie needs someone to take care of her right now, and I think Jake needs to take care of someone. She needs Jake around because he cares about her. Everyone around her is calling her inhuman and evil, but she can turn around and say that Jake loves her, proving she isn't evil, inhuman and unlovable and everything else people like Kat and Stacey are calling her. "Screw you, it doesn't matter what you think because Jake believes me and Jake loves me."

He's also telling her what she wants to hear. "Den deserved it." "It was self defence." And yes the fact that he's helping her flee the country is a rather nice bonus.

Like I said, I don't think she's doing in consciously, and I think there are genuine feelings on both sides, but without the other factors and the situation that they're in I don't think they'd have developed or at least it would have taken longer.

Jake I think is using Chrissie as well. I do think he is lonely. The only other lasting connection to someone he's had up until now is with Danny, and we all know how well that turned out. He wants a connection with someone. "Chrissie, we're the same. We've been through the same things..." <-- he needs to feel that somebody else is in the same headspace that he is. He's trying to grab onto anything he can. He's spent his entire life looking after Danny, and now he can't do that anymore, and yes, it's a good thing, but at the same time I think he's a bit lost at the moment, so he's falling back on what he knows. He's looking out for Chrissie because he doesn't know how to do anything else.

Again, with Jake he does love Chrissie, he didn't just pick some random person of the street to throw all his issues onto. Although actually I think a case could be made that the entire reason Jake was attracted to Chrissie in the first place was because he saw her as someone needing "rescued."

I think (read: desperately hope) that in the weeks/months after Chrissie has gone we will see Jake going back to working for Johnny. Because he falls back on what he knows, and if he can't do that because Chrissie isn't around anymore, he'll fall even further back. (Again, desperately hope)

^Yes, I have had a boring day, and lots of time to think about this, :lol: :p

Jada-GDR
27-10-2005, 20:40
the day he told danny that he'd seen andy being murdered was really emotional. when he showed danny andy's "last view" i thought he was going to push danny over and i was like "NO!" but then i realised he wasn't going to.
the episode when he had to flee walford with danny was really sad too and he had to say goodbye to chrissie and everything and on top of that he is SOOOO sexy (i think anyway) :heart:Jake moon:heart:

BlackKat
02-11-2005, 18:42
Was bored, did a search on gettyimages, and found:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3972/560352305bt.jpg

From the Tribute To Wendy Richard MBE.

OMG, how bloody gorgeous is he, *thud*

Edit: Found more!

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8076/is113251652cw.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6017/is113279408kk.jpg

http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/926/558353m8mq.jpg

http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/79/558353a2dy.jpg

And a new one from the NTAs.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2609/is113178929vs.jpg

Babe14
20-11-2005, 10:12
Dawn and Jake look great together, so here'shoping! Hopefully now all the Den stuffs coming to an end Jake will actually have a decent part and will be in All the action, as we were promised and not just used as a wall decoration behind the bar.

Sorry but in the end Jake and Chrissie did not work together, Jake became just a background character and I was annoyed at how badly the writers etc were using him. I felt they were destroying an excellent character who when used right has great potential and will work really well. However I liked the scenes of Jake this week back with Alfie, I think the two of them work really well together and it's a shame Alfie is leaving. Jake will work well on his own now providing he is giving some very good stroylines and interacted with the other characters and not just shoved to one side like he was being with Chrissie.

Apart from that I think he is just as lovely as ever and still feel sure he will go a very long way, especially with all the new characters joining the show, IF he is used right.

Piccys are gorgeous..*Swoon*

Layne
20-11-2005, 12:21
Ta for posting those pictures! Fab! x :wub:

BlackKat
20-11-2005, 14:06
Dawn and Jake look great together, so here'shoping! Hopefully now all the Den stuffs coming to an end Jake will actually have a decent part and will be in All the action, as we were promised and not just used as a wall decoration behind the bar.

Sorry but in the end Jake and Chrissie did not work together, Jake became just a background character and I was annoyed at how badly the writers etc were using him. I felt they were destroying an excellent character who when used right has great potential and will work really well. However I liked the scenes of Jake this week back with Alfie, I think the two of them work really well together and it's a shame Alfie is leaving. Jake will work well on his own now providing he is giving some very good stroylines and interacted with the other characters and not just shoved to one side like he was being with Chrissie.

Apart from that I think he is just as lovely as ever and still feel sure he will go a very long way, especially with all the new characters joining the show, IF he is used right.

Piccys are gorgeous..*Swoon*

I agree to a point. I think up until he found out about Den everything was okay -- the week he found out was fantastic. But once they got past that he wasn't used well. I don't think it was a fault with the relationship though. Everybody was shoved aside for the Den storyline, so if he wasn't with Chrissie we'd have seen him even less. But I did feel they could have focused a little more on what Jake was thinking etc, instead of him just reassuring Chrissie. I understand that it was Chrissie's storyline, but I want a Jake storyline. (Parents. Parents. Parents. Please. It's so simple. Just bring the goddamn parents in. Goddam goldmine. Or, y'know, Daddy therory still works for me. :p)

But, yeah, I still love Jake/Chrissie, and I still think there were some good moments there, and I think Jake been pushed into the background wasn't because of the relationship but because of the Den storyline and the sheer amount of characters involved. It wasn't just Jake either -- Kat was reduced to the simple line of "Keep Zoe out of it." But your opinion may differ on it. :)

I loved the Jake and Alfie scenes as well. I think they do work so well together -- mainly because there's no hint of what there is in all of Jake's other relationships (with Danny and with Chrissie) with the dependency and the unhealthiness. I like that Jake can be a wee bit vulnerable.

Jake and Dawn (or Joel and Kara I suppose) do look good together. And I love Dawn so much, so I agree -- here's hoping! Maybe she can get fed up with her family's nosiness (or just with Keith) and move in with Jake as a housemate (he'll need someone to help out with the rent once Alfie's gone. Especially as Jake has no job.) And then they can have a friendship growing into something more. Plus I think Dawn can take care of herself, and wouldn't let Jake be all protective which is good. It's a huge part of his character and a very believable trait, but if every relationship he has is reassuring and looking after someone it will get very repetitive.


(Why is it I can never just write a sentence about Jake? I start off just writing a short reply and then it grows. :lol: )

Babe14
21-11-2005, 12:21
Jake and Dawn (or Joel and Kiera I suppose) do look good together. And I love Dawn so much, so I agree -- here's hoping! Maybe she can get fed up with her family's nosiness (or just with Keith) and move in with Jake as a housemate (he'll need someone to help out with the rent once Alfie's gone. Especially as Jake has no job.) And then they can have a friendship growing into something more. Plus I think Dawn can take care of herself, and wouldn't let Jake be all protective which is good. It's a huge part of his character and a very believable trait, but if every relationship he has is reassuring and looking after someone it will get very repetitive.


(Why is it I can never just write a sentence about Jake? I start off just writing a short reply and then it grows. :lol: )

I love Dawn too she is another great character and I think that her Jake would work well together but not in a serious or permanent relationship. (Childhood sweetheart...) It would be interesting if Jake wentoff the rails a bit after all the Chrissie stuff, but there againis it really inhis character to do this? To me however much Jake is hurting he always seems to face the reality of things. Yes he has a few drinks but he doesn't crawel into a bottle, he just dusts himself off and carries on. Is Jake's way of dealing with pain to go and find someone else to care for, maybe?

I'm annoyed and find it a little unrealistic that he hasn't been involved in the Nana storyline yet, as he should be because she is his family. Perhaps this is going to be Jake's new reason for staying in the square and once nana has gone to stay for Alfie, because he will need him. But what about when Alfie leaves, what would his reason fro staying be then? A surprise arrival perhaps? A secret revealed? or maybe he will just feel that it is time to stop running and settle?

I hope that Jake will be responsible for Johnny's "demise" afterall he does now have a score to settle. If it wasn't for Johnny maybe Jake and Chrissie would be living the good life in Mexico. Then there are the Mitchells..um..Phil love/hate maybe Jake and Phil will sort out their differences, afterall Easties is going all family orientated now and in a different direction as we are beginning to see.

I loved the battered worn leather Jake had on sometime ago and was hoping we'd see more of it, although he does look good in the material/leather number, but even better the gangster coat is back!! Now that really is Jake! Gives him a lovely sexy bad boy image!

See once I start I can't stop either and can't remember the last time I just typed a one sentence reply.:rotfl:

Still if something is worth talking/writing about it's no use just doing half a job!!

BlackKat
21-11-2005, 15:35
It would be interesting if Jake wentoff the rails a bit after all the Chrissie stuff, but there againis it really inhis character to do this? To me however much Jake is hurting he always seems to face the reality of things. Yes he has a few drinks but he doesn't crawel into a bottle, he just dusts himself off and carries on. Is Jake's way of dealing with pain to go and find someone else to care for, maybe?

I'm not sure if he will fall apart or not -- if he was to, I don't think he'd do it publically, even in front of Alfie and Nana. He said he needed to get his head together, and he went away in order to do it. Part of that was because he didn't want to be in the Square I think, but maybe also because if he did fall apart he wanted to be on his own.

I think he will try and find somebody else to care for, and I think this was part of why he's so attached to Chrissie -- because he hasn't dealt with the Danny stuff properly and he doesn't want to have to deal with it. It would be nice if he could recognise this though and try and change the pattern.


I'm annoyed and find it a little unrealistic that he hasn't been involved in the Nana storyline yet, as he should be because she is his family. Perhaps this is going to be Jake's new reason for staying in the square and once nana has gone to stay for Alfie, because he will need him.

I'm hoping for some kind of fall-out from the fact that Alfie hasn't told Jake. I don't think it should be a big one, as in the end it is Nana's decision if she doesn't want anyone to know, but I think he will be a bit hurt. Especially as I think he's floundering a bit -- he's still clinging to Chrissie (moving away to be near to her) but I think something will happen there to cut that tie.


I loved the battered worn leather Jake had on sometime ago and was hoping we'd see more of it, although he does look good in the material/leather number, but even better the gangster coat is back!! Now that really is Jake! Gives him a lovely sexy bad boy image!

Oh, the coat. :wub: Actually, now the weather is getting colder, do you think we'll see the scarf again. *hopes so* And while I love his new wardrobe, I do find myself missing the pinstripe jacket. He's only worn it a couple of times since he's been back. *mourns*

BlackKat
22-11-2005, 08:14
From the Radio Times webby:

Monday 5 December

Janine's murder trial begins. Pat's ready for anything - except Frank. Jake proposes to Chrissie. Stacey is shocked by her mum's mental state.

I'll withhold judgement until I see it -- but to be honest, I can't see the point. He can't get married to her - well, I suppose he can, but can they honestly have a character that's married to someone off-screen? I know not every storyline is a romantic one, but still...I hope there's a point, like Jake saying "We either do this the whole hog or we don't at all." Or I dunno...something :rolleyes: I love the Jake/Chrissie relationship, I wish we could keep it, but Chrissie's leaving, we can't, so I'd rather they wouldn't drag it out.

Edit: So these are the Jake/Chrissie bits from the POS for that week:

Monday Elsewhere, Chrissie finds it hard to adjust to prison life.

Tuesday Still in a daze, Chrissie agrees to see her solicitor and breaks the news about her bail money.

Thursday Chrissie outlines the plan for her defence.

Friday Chrissie is unresponsive when she speaks to her solicitor. When she later sees Jake, she tells him her decision.

I'm thinking that Chrissie's exit isn't completely over yet (well, obviously, lol). We might see Chrissie become increasingly desperate to get out of prison - she's obviously having a hard time in there, but also if there's the threat of losing Jake -- he might not propose because it's romantic and sweet, but because he's realising the relationship isn't going to work with her in prison but he's still trying to hold on any way he can. Also if Chrissie sees that Jake still wants to be with her, despite her being arrested then she might also see how much she wants a life with him. :searchme: Anyway, yes, so I think we'll see Chrissie trying to find a way to get out of prison, and she has knowledge about Johnny, and also Dennis telling her he killed a man once. Of course if she uses the knowledge of Johnny and Andy's death it's going to put Jake in danger -- not just from Johnny, also from the police. But then there's the big death rumoured to be Dennis, and that he's killed by Johnny. If Dennis finds out the truth about Andy's death Johnny might decide he has to silence him (Dennis). I think if Chrissie did go this far, no matter if she didn't mean to get Jake involved, it would lead to a split between them.

Either that or Chrissie realises on the Friday that Jake isn't going to let go easy, and her decision is that they have to make a clean break.

Either that or it's a completely lame, pointless way to drag the Den storyline around the desert a few more times. :rolleyes:

Angeldelight
22-11-2005, 16:59
Maybe Jake proposes to Chrissie on monday and then on friday she finally comes to the decision that she has to tell Jake to get on with his life... or she's thinking of making a break for it and the rumours about Jake holding off the police at the airport's true and she manages to get away but WITHOUT Jake???

does that make sense?

BlackKat
25-11-2005, 08:45
Here's the summaries for the Tuesday and Thursday that week:

Tuesday 6th December
Frank's devastated to hear about Janine, but finds comfort in Pat. Stacey gives her mum hope. Jake goes looking for trouble.

Thursday 8th December
Frank confronts Pat and the sparks fly. Chrissie finally loses it. Stacey's upset by a revelation about her mum.

Babe14
25-11-2005, 12:08
Great sounds like Jakey might go a bit wild and we will get to see the rougher side of his character. I think that Chrissie will tell Jakey to let her go and get on with his life without her.

We have still to find out the stroy behind the money, like where did Jakey soundly get all that windfall from?? Maybe the looking for trouble could be connected with the money as Jakey goes searching for it. Ah link..between Jakey and the Millers..Oh my God! are we finally going to have Jakey interacting with other characters???

P.S Keep meaning to say, note that we are getting lots of close up shots of those gorgeous hands..*yummmmmmmmmmmmmy* also his hips etc *faint*



*Yawn* Frank is back.

Babe14
25-11-2005, 12:09
Thanks for all the info:)

Babe14
25-11-2005, 12:11
Either that or it's a completely lame, pointless way to drag the Den storyline around the desert a few more times. :rolleyes:

:rotfl: That stroyline has gone on far to long. Those writers really do need a kick up the ****

Babe14
25-11-2005, 12:13
Maybe Jake proposes to Chrissie on monday and then on friday she finally comes to the decision that she has to tell Jake to get on with his life... or she's thinking of making a break for it and the rumours about Jake holding off the police at the airport's true and she manages to get away but WITHOUT Jake???

does that make sense?

Yes it does:) I don't think they can do another airport scene again without it being repetitive.

I think it will prob be a case of Chrissie telling Jake to forget about her and get on with his life and that she doesn't want him to visit her anymore.

BlackKat
25-11-2005, 12:25
Either that or from the "Chrissie loses it," bit, she goes completely doo-lally, and he starts getting serious cases of deja-vu. :rotfl: Especially if she starts blaming Johnny Allen (seeing as he had the tape). :p

Seriously though, if she does completely lose it (ie, complete loss of sanity, not just a slight breakdown) then I can see it sending Jake towards the edge as well. It'll be a very sad ending to Jake/Chrissie if that does happen to Chrissie.

I'm really looking forward to that week of episodes -- it should be great. :cheer: (Does that make me sound evil?)

One of the summaries for next Friday says "Jake realises somethings missing," which I assume will be the money. But can he really get it back when it wasn't his to begin with -- they should have given it back to Ian when the forgery about the Vic came out.

Oh and POS for Christmas says Jake realises Alfie kept Nana's secret after Nana's died. Hopefully there'll be some good scenes there.

Kim
25-11-2005, 12:45
One of the summaries for next Friday says "Jake realises somethings missing," which I assume will be the money. But can he really get it back when it wasn't his to begin with -- they should have given it back to Ian when the forgery about the Vic came out.


The money was found by Darren Miller in the Moon's rubbish and Nana had had a clear out so she must have put it there by mistake.

JustJodi
25-11-2005, 12:52
actually Alfie took the bin bag outside and Gengis sniffed it out and Darren investigated .. so now we know where Darren ended up with all that moola for that fancy schmancy fone of his.. :p

BlackKat
25-11-2005, 12:53
The money was found by Darren Miller in the Moon's rubbish and Nana had had a clear out so she must have put it there by mistake.

Yeah, but it's not like he can ask around the Square if anyone's seen the money -- Ian didn't get the Vic, so he should get his money back. And Jake's not exactly popular (although I loved Mo's comment "Where's the fugitive?") so I doubt he'll want to draw attention to the fact.

Kim
25-11-2005, 12:58
Yeah. He probably only kept it in the first place in hope that Chrissie would be freed.

Kim
25-11-2005, 12:59
actually Alfie took the bin bag outside and Gengis sniffed it out and Darren investigated .. so now we know where Darren ended up with all that moola for that fancy schmancy fone of his.. :p

How much money do you think was there? He'd been splashing out before and now he's got a new phone.

BlackKat
25-11-2005, 13:02
Well Ian gave them 5 grand in cash. Subtract the money Jake gave Alfie for Nana's Normandy trip, cash for the world's most expensive takeaway (the large wad of cash Jake handed over so Alfie could go buy one??), and I suppose Jake might have also needed to put some money down for a flat or wherever he's living.

And maybe he bought a few new t-shirts as well, ;)

BlackKat
26-11-2005, 09:26
Friday 9th December

Jean resolves to make things right, leaving Stacey devastated. Chrissie accepts her fate. Pat faces Laura's mum, but will she testify?

Layne
26-11-2005, 10:49
Friday 9th December

Jean resolves to make things right, leaving Stacey devastated. Chrissie accepts her fate. Pat faces Laura's mum, but will she testify?


Does that mean she has accepted that she is gonna be in prison for a very long time!?????

Kim
26-11-2005, 10:51
Yes, it must do.

BlackKat
26-11-2005, 11:02
I think so as well - her decision will be No to the proposal and she'll let Jake go, IMO.

I think it's the best thing for both of them (especially Jake) but still...Jakissie! :crying:

Layne
26-11-2005, 11:12
I think so as well - her decision will be No to the proposal and she'll let Jake go, IMO.

I think it's the best thing for both of them (especially Jake) but stil...Jakissie! :crying:


I know :crying:

BlackKat
26-11-2005, 17:37
Someone posted on Forever Loving TAO, that in TV Easy mag, it says Jake has a drunken one night stand (The week of the proposal.)

I think it'll be true, it says he's been drowning his sorrows, and there was a post on DS a while back saying Joel had been seen filming at a prison and at a bar near a prison.

I should be upset...but I think it'll be some great scenes. And I want to see bad boy, flirty Jakey again.

Kim
26-11-2005, 21:28
Someone posted on Forever Loving TAO, that in TV Easy mag, it says Jake has a drunken one night stand (The week of the proposal.)


Has anyone got any idea who it's with?

BlackKat
26-11-2005, 21:31
It doesn't say -- just that he wakes up in another woman's bed. I'll be surprised if it's a regular though -- I'd say it'll just be someone he meets at a club or something while he's out getting drunk.



*edit* Oh, and gratuitous, "I have a new banner with Jakey in, doesn't he look so cute when he's miserable* :lol:

Babe14
27-11-2005, 13:19
Oh fantastic Jakey going wild and being a very naughty boy, now this is exactly what I want to see. When Jakey returned I was disappointed at the way the character was being used (or not as I felt the case was, only as a wall decoration)and being put across. I thought that the charcter was being turned into a wimp like Ian and this is exactly what I didn't want to see happen. Now looks like the "original" Jakey will be coming back to us with a wild side after the split with Chrissie. I'd like to see him being a bit of a "Danny" with regards to the bedroom dept for a while and getting drunk, maybe picking fights and just generally being really wild and naughty for a while, perhaps even getting mixed up with some of the "all sorts" from his and Danny's past, that way we can also learn more about the Moon babies history. Then one day he gets a blast form the past...

melanielovesdennisrickman
27-11-2005, 13:44
BlackKat,i really really loveeeeeeeee you banner!!
He looks soooooo cute!!:wub: :wub:

BlackKat
27-11-2005, 14:17
From what I can tell what happens is: Jake proposes, Chrissie initially says Yes, and then he tells her that he lost the bail money. She gets angry and tells him to leave. (Side note: They had 5 grand in cash. Sam's bail was something like 25K, and she wasn't even granted bail in the end. And she hadn't tried to flee the country.)

Jake then goes and gets drunk, has the one-night stand, while Chrissie starts losing it in prison and attacks her stereotypically horrible cellmate. Then she tells Jake she can't marry him and that they're finished.

I'm not sure whether she finds out about the onenight stand, they break up because of the bail money (stupid reason if it is) or if she just realises it isn't going to work.


I'd like to see him being a bit of a "Danny" with regards to the bedroom dept for a while and getting drunk, maybe picking fights and just generally being really wild and naughty for a while, perhaps even getting mixed up with some of the "all sorts" from his and Danny's past, that way we can also learn more about the Moon babies history. Then one day he gets a blast form the past...

I hope we see a return of badboy Jake as well. Although I think for him to go all out wild, he'd have to be hitting out against something. Even when he first came into it he was still the sensible one - partly because of how unsensible Danny was, but also I think because that's his personality. Flirty, a little naughty, but at heart a decent, sensible guy. I don't think it's out of character for him to have a one-night stand, but he'll have had to hit rock-bottom or somewhere close to it. A few drinks - or even a night out drinking - and having a bit of a flirt, yes, but a different girl everynight isn't Jake I think, or at least not a happy Jake. So I hope we see a wild side, but also show us the fact that he's miserable and lonely -- once Alfie's gone, he'll literally have no one. Not crying into his cornflakes every morning miserable (yeuk, no) but I think he will shut down at least to some degree.

It's kinda sad that after spending his life clearing up after Danny, Danny gets to jet off and travel the world, and Jake's stuck in London still being affected by everything.

Babe14
28-11-2005, 10:58
I want him to act out of character by going wild and a few one night stands, no not every night - say sometimes he just has a flirt and a snog and leaves it there and then another time he beds the girl. Then perhaps another time he just teases or say he chats someone up and they think their luck is in and chases after Jakey and he just leads them on for a while, one day bed them, then another not wanting to know and then bed them again. I want him to act not sensible after the break up with Chrissie and then for a blast or maybe two blasts from the past to bring him back down to earth with a bump..

As well as all the above, yes in the beginning before Jakey goes almost completlely off the rails, I want to see those tears and that heartbroken look that makes you just want to love him all better. Whatever happens it has to be done in a way that's not OTT or it will ruin the character.

I want to see that tough side of Jakey return with fire in his belly..

BlackKat
29-11-2005, 15:37
Here's this weeks mags, :)

All About Soap
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5567/2911allaboutsoap15eb.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2911allaboutsoap15eb.jpg) http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7682/2911allaboutsoap29mg.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2911allaboutsoap29mg.jpg)

"It'll be a lonely Christmas for Jake - but next year something is going to happen which will change all that, so it's not all doom and gloom."...Hmm, intriguing. :hmm: Sounds like it'll be something happy which I think rules out his parents turning up or the daddy theory, mores the pity. New girlfriend maybe. :searchme:

Inside Soap
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/771/2911insidesoap18bk.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2911insidesoap18bk.jpg) http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7069/2911insidesoap22xe.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2911insidesoap22xe.jpg)

BlackKat
29-11-2005, 15:39
Continued (too many images for one post)

Soaplife
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5558/2911soaplife11gg.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2911soaplife11gg.jpg) http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4029/2911soaplife24cu.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2911soaplife24cu.jpg) http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9712/2911soaplife31zh.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2911soaplife31zh.jpg) http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/2903/2911soaplife43dt.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2911soaplife43dt.jpg) <-- *thud* doesn't even begin to describe that picture. :wub:

Layne
29-11-2005, 19:30
Thanks for posting honey!!!! And he looks soooooooo sexy in that picture!!! :wub:

melanielovesdennisrickman
29-11-2005, 20:17
Thanks for posting,looks great,and i looks really cute,especially in the last photo!!:wub: :wub:

BlackKat
03-12-2005, 17:58
From the Radio Times, :)

Friday 16 December
Pauline must make a sacrifice for Martin and Sonia. A troubled Alfie comes to blows with Jake.

Kim
04-12-2005, 10:23
I read in the Tv Mag that the woman that Jake sleeps with is someone called Ferne.

BlackKat
06-12-2005, 20:17
Disappointed we only got a couple of scenes. But I liked the scenes we did get. :cheer: Slutbomb has good taste, :p Also liked him getting rid of that guy in the bar with just a look, hee. :wub:


Saw scans of the new Inside Soap over on NHO. I don't know if it had any bits on Jake (the shops were sold out when I went today, :angry: ) but they did scan the episode summaries in, and apparently Dawn nicks the cash from Darren. (Yes, even after Chrissie has left the money storyline still continues). Not wanting to get my hopes up, because it probably won't...but this might lead to some Dawn/Jake interaction? I really do think they'd suit each other.

Layne
07-12-2005, 19:06
Loved tha Jake scenes we got yesterday!
I loved the way he was just waiting for the lawyer man!

I do think that dawn and Jake would be good together, but for me no one can ever beat jake and chrissie! :wub:

BlackKat
08-12-2005, 18:20
The interview with Joel Beckett on This Morning is posted on JBO if anyone missed it. :)

Sounds like some great stuff -- he's staying (yeah, I know we know, but things feel kinda of uncertain at Easties at the moment, if if the big rush of exits has died down. It's always nice to hear it said again though, just to make sure.)

Anyway Joel said Jake goes a bit dark next year, and there's apparently something massive happening. :thumbsup: And he spends Christmas on his own, with a turkey burger. :(

BlackKat
08-12-2005, 20:16
"Thanks for the sex." :lol: :rotfl:

Loved that scene. "See, I do have some manners." :wub:

Babe14
09-12-2005, 10:22
Love him, love him, love him! Jake is really beginning to shine now. Love the brutal streak which is coming through and Jakey's couldn't careless attitude! Loved the scene with the lawyer when he called him a pompous pounce and told him that he would rip his face off and I particularly loved the end of that scene when Jakey went "Drive carefully Mr (whatever his name was) now that sounded really sinister.
Liked the morning after the night before scene yestrday and the exchange of comments. Jakey really is starting to become a naughty boy and I can't wait for more of this. I want more of his brutal streak and am really looking forward to seeing this dark side of his. Put Dawn in there as well and perfect!

As well as this lovely new side to Jakey we are still seeing his emotional side which I like and hope we still see a bit of it from time to time.

Loving all the sexy shots we are being shown of him and awww..purrrrr that body! Those hands, hips etc lots of lovely shots there!

Bring on "Bad" boy Jakey! I would like to see Jakey take over Scarlet's once Johnny has gone and for Jakey to be a real "Dodgy" wheeler dealer and maybe form time to time a bit of a womaniser as well as a "casual" relationship with Dawn, which I think would suit both of them.

Pinstripe Jacket plus Gangster coat yummy and all those lovely jeans!

And grrrrrrr I missed him on this morning..!!!

Babe14
09-12-2005, 10:26
Jakey can come to me for Xmas! Just one grumble though we are still not seeing him enough, maybe it's because Jake is involved in a lose end scenario at the mo, I.E Chrissie and the Den storyline and it looks like that once this is all out of the way we will /hopefully see a lot more of Jakey and that gorgeous new side of him.

Wasn't too sure on the new haircut but it soon grew on me and I think it makes him look very sexy and a bad boy!

BlackKat
12-12-2005, 16:34
I have no idea if this is true but...Murder in Albert Square (http://www.supanet.com/entertainment/television/news/61220/Murder_in_Albert_Square.html)


Murder in Albert Square
'EastEnders' is set to be shaken by a shocking murder.

Fans of the soap will see Danny Moon return to Albert Square - then get killed by his brother Jake, who is played by Joel Beckett.

The Moon brothers - who both left the area after Danny, who is played by actor Jake Marshall, set fire to gangster Johnny Allen's home - get into a brawl, which leaves Danny fatally wounded.

A source is quoted in Britain's Daily Star newspaper as saying: "Jake will plead with Danny to leave but he refuses and they fight. Danny is fatally injured.

"It concludes the story of the Moon brothers. It ties up a lot of loose ends."

Meanwhile teenager Ruby Allen gets drunk and collapses after finding out Phil Mitchell, who is played by Steve McFadden, paid her boyfriend to romance her.

Phil is locked in a bitter feud with Ruby's dad, Johnny, and hoped to upset him by paying a man to seduce his daughter.

The youngster, who is played by actress Louisa Lytton, is so upset at being betrayed by boyfriend Juley, actor Joseph Kpobie, she drinks a whole bottle of vodka and passes out - forcing Phil to resuscitate her.

Yikes.

I'm leaning towards not true, because I think we'd have heard if Danny was coming back. And why would Danny come back and refuse to leave -- he knows what Johnny's capable of, and if he wasn't before the fire he certainly is now. Plus it wouldn't be a murder it would be accidental death -- and no way would Jake cover it up. No way. He stood in front of a loaded gun for Danny. But Joel did say Jake was going to go quite dark and something massive was happening...just, yikes.

I don't know how reliable the Daily Star is though...I don't think it is that reliable, but I can't recall what they've reported on recently and whether it was true or not.

Layne
12-12-2005, 17:57
I have no idea if this is true but...Murder in Albert Square (http://www.supanet.com/entertainment/television/news/61220/Murder_in_Albert_Square.html)



Yikes.

I'm leaning towards not true, because I think we'd have heard if Danny was coming back. And why would Danny come back and refuse to leave -- he knows what Johnny's capable of, and if he wasn't before the fire he certainly is now. Plus it wouldn't be a murder it would be accidental death -- and no way would Jake cover it up. No way. He stood in front of a loaded gun for Danny. But Joel did say Jake was going to go quite dark and something massive was happening...just, yikes.

I don't know how reliable the Daily Star is though...I don't think it is that reliable, but I can't recall what they've reported on recently and whether it was true or not.


well i don't really know what to say! I thikn what you've wrote about it maybe not being true but then about the jake getting darker stuff!
To be honest though i don't really think Jake would kill danny, or even hurt him so much so he dies!

And anyway this is the first i've heard about jake maskall comeing back!

BlackKat
12-12-2005, 18:36
I can see Danny dying accidentally from a fight. If they do it though it would have to be a complete accident -- not Jake losing his temper and doing it, especially not with an intent to do it. I'd think it would also have to be Danny that started the fight -- and to be honest I'd be surprised at Jake even fighting back. Anyone else, yeah fine. But not Danny. Never Danny.

The only way I could see this plot working with everyone fully in character would be J&D getting into a fight, Danny getting hurt, Jake trying to save him and failing. They can't do it as it being a cover up murder (not only because we've just had a year long one of those), they espeically can't do it as an intended murder.

And it creates more bloody loose ends then tie them up. Maybe Danny just gets hurt but survives. :searchme: They would bring up a lot of issues, they'd get the chance to talk honestly, and Jake would still have to deal with the aftermath of what he'd done.

BlackKat
13-12-2005, 14:32
Not a lot in the mags today about Jake -- they're mainly the Kalfie and Shannis exit. But it does say about Nana's funeral (there's a picture of Alfie and Jake carrying the coffin):

Although Alfie and Jake both shoulder the burden of grief, Jake is sidelined. While the whole of Walford seems to be asking after Alfie, nobody asks Jake how he's coping. (All About Soap)

:( :crying: The whole of Walford sucks.

And in Soaplife that Alfie asks Jake to keep an eye on Kat once he's gone, but obviously that doesn't matter cos Kat leaves as well.

But the best bit is in All About Soap the episode summaries:

Thursday 29th December
As Sharon and Dennis are about to sneak out of the Square, they're talked into a goodbye drink at The Vic's New Year Party...At the back, Dawn takes pity on Jake, and Little Mo struggles with a flirty Billy and Honey.

*yay* Jakey and Dawnie... :thumbsup:

Layne
13-12-2005, 19:12
I read that wand was gonna come post! No one will be as good as chrissie but i am starting to warm to jakey and dawn!

BlackKat
13-12-2005, 19:21
Dawnie and her fake boobs rock. And Jake's at his best when he's a slight bad boy with lots of flirting, like it was with Chrissie at the beginning. And like I said...somewhere, I think Dawn can take care of herself so hopefully it wouldn't descend into a Danny or Chrissie style relationship where they're depending on Jake.

It might just be a small thing, but it did say in one of the mags that something good was coming for Jake in the New Year - maybe this is it. I think a nice casual relationship/friendship is what he needs right now.


I think any other relationship he gets into, no matter who it's with or how serious it is, the dynamics will be totally different to him and Chrissie. They're two seperate relationships, and Chrissie isn't coming back. I don't think it's like with Mo and Alfie, where we knew Kat was coming back so there was going to be a direct comparison. Obviously a comparison will be made, but it's not like they'll be a triangle over it or anything like that.

Layne
13-12-2005, 19:49
Dawnie and her fake boobs rock. And Jake's at his best when he's a slight bad boy with lots of flirting, like it was with Chrissie at the beginning. And like I said...somewhere, I think Dawn can take care of herself so hopefully it wouldn't descend into a Danny or Chrissie style relationship where they're depending on Jake.

It might just be a small thing, but it did say in one of the mags that something good was coming for Jake in the New Year - maybe this is it. I think a nice casual relationship/friendship is what he needs right now.


I think any other relationship he gets into, no matter who it's with or how serious it is, the dynamics will be totally different to him and Chrissie. They're two seperate relationships, and Chrissie isn't coming back. I don't think it's like with Mo and Alfie, where we knew Kat was coming back so there was going to be a direct comparison. Obviously a comparison will be made, but it's not like they'll be a triangle over it or anything like that.


yeh i suppose! And i did like flirty jake!

BlackKat
16-12-2005, 21:35
See, EE. Was that really so hard? *sigh*


I wish they'd have mentioned Jake and Danny's father. Or even the mother. While I liked the fact that they spent Christmas at Nana's, I didn't like what I felt was glossing over their childhood. She took them to the seaside, they spent Christmas together. Well, great, good for her, but what about the in between bits? What about the times they weren't with Nana? Why no mention of them.

I loved the line about Jake being scared that without Danny, without Chrissie, there'd be just him. Because:


He's spent his entire life looking after Danny, and now he can't do that anymore, and yes, it's a good thing, but at the same time I think he's a bit lost at the moment, so he's falling back on what he knows. He's looking out for Chrissie because he doesn't know how to do anything else.

I love being right. ;)

I desperately want this to be Jake's character arc. He defines himself in relation to other people - namely Danny and Chrissie. He is Danny's brother, he is Chrissie's boyfriend. And now, without those two, without Alfie, without Nana, he will be forced to define himself on his terms. They've got their paths, and they've been dark ones and he couldn't save them from them. But he's got to figure out what his own path is.

One scene that has always stuck out for me is the two second scene in the episode back in July -- where Jake's looking for Danny in the woods. He looks so lost, just stumbling around.

I don't agree with Alfie that Jake is incapable of love. I think he's incapable of (for want of a better word) normal love. He either loves absolutely or not at all. For Jake what matters is not how he treats people in general, it's how he treats certain ones. He's an all or nothing guy, and when he decides to give it his all, my god, does he give it. He gives it way too much. He stands in front of guns, he plans to leave the country, he buys rings. He'll try and save them over and over again. Alfie and Nana hover somewhere on the peripheal I'd say. He cares about them. But with Danny and Chrissie it goes much further. There's a line where you have to pull back and take care of yourself, where if your walls come slamming down they do for a reason. I think Jake knows where that line is, and he says 'Screw it' and crosses it anyway.

Anyway, to the actual scenes in the episodes: Loved Jake and Alfie's totally childish fight. Loved how it started with a violent outburst from Jake that then got lost. Loved Jake dragging the Christmas tree through the Square, dropping branches everywhere, not giving a damn and looking completely petulant. He's so cute when he's bratish. And I loved the charades game, and how happy he looked.

And if EE could stop with all this giving him space lark I'd be much happier. This better be the last one. I mean it.

Edit: I also loved Jake refusing to dance with the Snowman, and him looking at Nana and Alfie like they were insane.

doginthepond
17-12-2005, 14:47
I think they need to develop the character more as an individual, because Joel was on this morning last week some time and said that he was staying for at least a year. good good, we need some totty around albert square.

Babe14
18-12-2005, 10:07
I loved the Jakey and Alfie scenes, the arguing,fighting, bantering, the forgetting they weren't friends and then remembering, such a shame Shane is leaving as these two characters/actors really do work well together. I loved the three of them together when they were palying charades and akey cuddling up to Nana on the sofa. It was even lovlier to see Jakey for more than a flash in scenes. We had another taster of the past tonight which was good and am hoping we are going to have a lot more.

One thing that is becoming monotioness is the fact that Jakey keeps reappearing and then disappearing again. So here's hoping that this week Jakey will be back for good and not doing a runner again!! (Maybe Dawn can persaude him to stick around)

Looking forward to all the good stuff to come and to seeing Jakey being involved a lot more.

kerry4nigel
19-12-2005, 11:04
Does anyone know when Jake is coming back, is it tonight? or is he not back until the funeral on Thursday?

doginthepond
19-12-2005, 11:21
He's going to be so angry with Alfie for not telling him Nana was ill, what do you all think?

BlackKat
19-12-2005, 15:48
The press office spoilers mention him on Tuesday's episode. He could be in it tonight but I think tonight is when Kat helps Alfie comes to terms with Nana's death. I don't think Alfie will have told anyone yet.

I think Jake will be more hurt than angry - he might react angrily, but it will be because he's hurt. The PO spoilers say:

Jake can’t believe it when he realises that Alfie has kept Nana’s secret for so long.



One thing that is becoming monotioness is the fact that Jakey keeps reappearing and then disappearing again. So here's hoping that this week Jakey will be back for good and not doing a runner again!! (Maybe Dawn can persaude him to stick around)

I agree. I think this one will be the last time -- it's alright up to now (well, it's not cos it's annoying) because he can leave but there's Alfie and Nana to bring him back. Now Nana's dead, and Alfie will be gone soon, if he disappears again there's no real reason for him to reappear. Something has to convince him to stick around. I think it might actually be Alfie leaving -- up until now Jake might have felt it's okay to leave and have time alone because he's got Alfie and Nana as a safe base to come back to. But once that's gone, he's got to start putting down roots and building up new attachments, otherwise he'll just be drifting the rest of his life. He might decide that it's best for him to stop running.

sheilamarie
19-12-2005, 15:50
i tottaly agree but i love jake hes so sweet i miss him and chrissie together

BlackKat
20-12-2005, 15:01
Oh, and apparently Deano sets his sights on Dawn. Poo-ey. Ah, well, doesn't say if she reciprocates and I don't think she will -- he's only 18 I think. :searchme: But that's why he decides to try and save Wellard -- to impress her. :rolleyes:

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So, I guess Danny is coming back. I still say that I don't think it's Jake that kills him though -- and if it is, it will be an accident. And as for the last sentence - I don't think Jake will cope. If he is responsible he'll go looking for the nearest flyover to jump off, and even if he isn't he'll completely fall apart. Either that or Johnny's responsible, and Jake will go completely mad, not give a damn for his own safety and go after Johnny.

If there wasn't this rumour of Jake being the one to kill him I'd actually be pleased with this. Although the fact that after they barely escaped with their lives the first time Danny comes back and is willing to put both Jake and his own life in danger again makes him even more of an idiot than I thought he was. Oh, and "his reappearance will play a big part in tying up a huge story."...What? Surely his death would begin a story not tie one up. And what could happen that would mean he has to come back in order to tie things up?? Maybe Jake going after Johnny because of Danny's death is what turns the tide and eventually leads to Johnny's exit. That still doesn't make sense though -- Jake rocks yes, but he is nowhere near capable enough of running Johnny out of town. Going bonkers and killing him perhaps, but again -- they've got a body on their hands, it doesn't tie up the story. *is confused* *is also trying to find a way to make this work around the Daddy theory. :p No, I won't give up on that.*


Oh, yeah, and apparently Deano also takes over Alfie's old stall. All of which begs the question: What in hell is Jake living on?? He doesn't have a job, and he doesn't have any money (otherwise he'd have used it to try and get Chrissie out). I thought he'd be taking over the stall. I mean, yeah, it's not his dream job, and the last time he looked after it for Alfie I'm surprised he sold anything the way he was glaring at anyone who walked past. But it's money. Which he needs. To buy food and pay rent. I suppose they could say he's got a job on a building site again - and actually show us it this time. Still cranky about not getting to see Jake in his hard hat last time.

Layne
20-12-2005, 16:54
What so its true about Jake killing danny or just that danny is back?

I'd prefer Jake to be with dawn than Deano (look you are converting me now! :p)

What will jake be living on i wonder?

BlackKat
20-12-2005, 16:59
It's true that Danny's coming back for a bit. It says there's rumours that he'll leave again in a coffin. Says nothing about who kills him, or if it's accidental or not.

Dawn really should be with Jake. I don't actually think Deano will get very far with her -- the actor says that he fancies himself as a ladies man, but he doesn't have much luck.

I think Dawn has a scene with Jake on the day of the funeral as well.


Maybe Jake *shock* has to sell some of his t-shirts for food. :lol: I think EE will ignore it -- I mean, he has no money yet manages to buy an engagement ring, mince pies and a dancing snowman. Plus the fact that he had to be living somewhere all the times he's disappeared this month.

Layne
20-12-2005, 17:39
It's true that Danny's coming back for a bit. It says there's rumours that he'll leave again in a coffin. Says nothing about who kills him, or if it's accidental or not.

Dawn really should be with Jake. I don't actually think Deano will get very far with her -- the actor says that he fancies himself as a ladies man, but he doesn't have much luck.

I think Dawn has a scene with Jake on the day of the funeral as well.


Maybe Jake *shock* has to sell some of his t-shirts for food. :lol: I think EE will ignore it -- I mean, he has no money yet manages to buy an engagement ring, mince pies and a dancing snowman. Plus the fact that he had to be living somewhere all the times he's disappeared this month.


yeh ee like to overlook things like that!!!

the whole dawn and jake thing is really appealing to me now! Tis your fault! lol!
But i think they owuld be good togther even if it is just a very good friendly relationship with lots of jakey flirting!!!

i hope it isn't true that jake kills danny, well i mean jake wouldn't do it on purpose, that would be really out of character!
And well if its true about the other death *can't mention as its a spoiler!* then that would mean like 2 or more deaths like withing the same month (or whatever) and that is just silly.

Babe14
21-12-2005, 10:13
I think it may be Johnny who kills Danny (if rumour about him being killed is true) and then Jakey would get rid of Johnny who is leaving anyway. We have seen that Jakey isn't afraid to stand up to Johnny and front him out and if Johnny was responsible for Danny dying then I think Jakey wouldn't think twice about shooting him. (Remember Dennis and Dalton). The only thing that would stop him from doing so wuld be Ruby. I can't see this being true as it has been said that Jakey will find happiness next year and if he killed his brother, or if Danny was killed then Jakey wouldn't be happy for a very long time. Given his emotinal state at the mo it would push Jakey over the edge. There again Joel did say Jakey goes very dark next year, so maybe this is why??

I think a love triangle between Deano/Jakey and Dawn would be great. If/when Jakey and Dawn get together I can't see it being anything more than a "casual" realtionship where both Dawn and Jakey saw each other as and when it suited them

I personally feel that Jake is working a lot better without Chrissie. In the end I think things went a bit pear shaped there and the character started to come across as weak.

I really wish Shane was staying as Alfie and Jakey are just so wonderful together.

And finally I absolutely adore the character Jakey right now he is just going from strength to strength and next year the character will become even stronger.

I would like him to take over form Johnny and run Scarlets with a bit of dodgy dealing here and there maybe with a bit of a heartless attitude thrown in as well, but still having that beautiful softness from time to time.

It would be interesting and good to see Jakey/Phil and possibly Grant as well all being involved together in Johnny's exit.

Babe14
21-12-2005, 10:23
Just thought maybe the tying up of loose ends is the Johnny/Jake/Danny scenario plus the storyline of Phil's revenge on Johnny which is currently running. Danny comes back, and Johnny being in the state he is at the mo, prob an even worse one by then, thanks to Phil, kills Danny in a fit of rage. Maybe there will be a final confrontation with the three of them Jake/Danny and Johnny and poor Jakey witnesses another murder this time that of his brother, attacks Johnny, grabs the gun from him and shoots him, or there is a struggle and the gun goes off followed by the duff..duff and we're left in suspenders until Monday! All of this of course will be witnessed by Phil..

Another possibility which could tie in with Jakey killing Danny, Danny goes to shoot Johnny and Jake tries to grab the gun from him, there's a struggle the gun goes off, then the duff..duff..

BlackKat
21-12-2005, 10:50
I think Danny being killed would be a good storyline for Jake -- as long as it wasn't him that did it. That would be too much.

I actually think they should have killed Danny back in July. They could still have had Jake have a break for the summer - I don't think he'd stick around in Walford after that. We could have had Alfie worrying that Jake was out there somewhere probably going out of his mind, which would have been a break for the Molfie nonsense. Danny could have died in the fire, which means that when Jake got back they could still have had Jake and Johnny in the Square at the same time without Jake going for Johnny ever two seconds. And we'd have gotten a storyline that was actually about Jake.

I don't think Jake would cope at all well with Danny's death, especially if he doesn't have anyone round to support him. Not only would there be the usual grief, sorrow, because of how close they are it would be intensified, and with Jake there'd be other feelings of guilt, failure, feeling he should have protected Danny, that it's his fault Danny died.

I see Jake and Dawn as having a close friendship, but a casual relationship if that makes sense.

Babe14
21-12-2005, 11:00
I agree about Danny dying in the fire that would of been a great exit for him and for Jake to have had a storyline. I think if Danny was killed, especially if it was Jake's fault that would finish Jake. I'm hoping that Danny isn't going to die but for both him and Jake to be involved in Johnny's exit. Maybe the leaving in a coffin bit is Danny faking his death (could be the theme next year LOL) of course Jake would know and we could see the two of them saying bye to one another and going their seperate ways. Plus I can see a few commical moments being involved here.

Yes I know what you mean re Jake/Dawn - friendship with the sex!!

BlackKat
21-12-2005, 11:06
Friends with benefits -- so freaking hot! :lol:

I can just imagine Jake's face when Danny comes back. I think he'll be worried cos of Johnny, but at the same time he'll just be so happy to see his brother again. Despite the crap, they were very close and got along well.

I agree Danny dying would just kill Jake completely. I don't even know how he'd cope -- whether he'd just shut down, or if he'd fall apart, a mixture of the two. I don't actually see him as the suicidal type, but I can definitely see him putting himself in dangerous situations not really caring if he gets hurt. Poor Jakey, :(

doginthepond
21-12-2005, 11:40
I think Jake could be a geniine Mr Nice Guy. Maybe he could be just on the right side of that line. A bit like The Bill's DCI Meadows - who sails close to the wind but just stops short of bad.

I mieeed a lot of the jale/dennis/dalton stuff so I can't really comment on it.

I love Jake.

Babe14
21-12-2005, 13:35
I think Jake could be a geniine Mr Nice Guy. Maybe he could be just on the right side of that line. A bit like The Bill's DCI Meadows - who sails close to the wind but just stops short of bad.

I mieeed a lot of the jale/dennis/dalton stuff so I can't really comment on it.

I love Jake.

Without a doubt Jakey is a nice guy but he does have this dark side to him (yet to be seen) and he has a brutal streak in him some of which we have seen recently and right now Jake is hurting bad. When Alfie leaves I think he will hurt more and as a result I think that he will tend to think, to hell with it I'm sick of the mr nice guy stuff it doesn't get you anywhere or anything except hurt, so therefore he may well adopt a couldn't give a damn attitude and become harder/colder and just looking out for himself without caring for anyone else... for a while at least...

BlackKat
21-12-2005, 13:42
Also noticed recently he has quite a violent streak. Not overly violent, but there were a couple of times that he grabbed Chrissie quite roughly, and he went for Alfie suddenly as well. He has got a temper, even if we don't see it very often. I don't think that it's surprising though, what with his dad and everything.

BlackKat
22-12-2005, 20:12
Dawn and Jake scene! Hee, she so wanted him. And he so knew it. It was a nice conversation too, even if she did have an ulterior motive. ;)

the_watts_rule
23-12-2005, 08:11
It was so obvious that Dawn was chatting Jake up.

Layne
23-12-2005, 10:20
Dawn and Jake scene! Hee, she so wanted him. And he so knew it. It was a nice conversation too, even if she did have an ulterior motive. ;)

yeh!!!!!I am liking this relationship thing, well i like the idea of it anyway!

Babe14
23-12-2005, 10:21
Aww bless I just wanted to jump through the TV and cuddle him! LOL @ Dawn.

I think here it's going to be a Jakissie in reverse. Dawn will be the one doing all the flirting, chatting up and chasing, and Darling Jakey will be the one who will be giving her a hard time, but he'll prob at some time think oh what the hell and sleep with her and then again when it suits him. Dawn will be a bit miffed at first but then I can see her doing it Jakey's way. When Jakey gets dark I think that Dawn will want him even more and be determind to get him!

There Jakey goes again tonight putting his own feelings aside..still it was for Alfie, family, and as we can see family loyalty means a lot to Jakey. Love the Jakey and Alfie hugs..Loved those end scenes with Jake sitting with Nanna and Alfie in the house with the photos etc..

I loved Jakey's hair this week it's got those beautiful tuffty bits, lovely waves with a bit of curl, love his hair like this.

I think I just love Jakey:love: :rotfl:

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 10:26
I think here it's going to be a Jakissie in reverse. Dawn will be the one doing all the flirting, chatting up and chasing, and Darling Jakey will be the one who will be giving her a hard time, but he'll prob at some time think oh what the hell and sleep with her and then again when it suits him. Dawn will be a bit miffed at first but then I can see her doing it Jakey's way. When Jakey gets dark I think that Dawn will want him even more and be determind to get him!

I don't think Dawn's going to give up easily -- just like Jake didn't with Chrissie. I agree that Jake will give her a bit of a hard time -- although he was going to go for a drink with her before he changed his mind. I think he'll enjoying the attention a bit as well.

Loved the way Dawn jumped straight in there -- something she's got in common with Jake, she sees something she wants and she goes and gets it.

Babe14
23-12-2005, 10:26
Also noticed recently he has quite a violent streak. Not overly violent, but there were a couple of times that he grabbed Chrissie quite roughly, and he went for Alfie suddenly as well. He has got a temper, even if we don't see it very often. I don't think that it's surprising though, what with his dad and everything.

Love those scenes when Jakey gets angry. Also noticed that when he's hurting or upset Jakey gets angry. Aww and he is hurting real bad right now.Chrissie, Nanna, Alfie, no one asking how he is, therefore thinking that they don't give a toss about him..:crying:

Except Dawn of course:rotfl:

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 10:28
That's what I liked about the Jake/Dawn convo -- yes, it was her flirting with him, but at the same time it was a real conversation. At first I thought that Jake was a bit too open for someone he's only met a few times if that, but I think Jake's actually starting to be more open about things. I thought he was going to get closed off again -- especially when he said about Chrissie "I let her in and...". He looked quite comfortable with Dawn as well.

Babe14
23-12-2005, 10:33
I don't think Dawn's going to give up easily -- just like Jake didn't with Chrissie. I agree that Jake will give her a bit of a hard time -- although he was going to go for a drink with her before he changed his mind. I think he'll enjoying the attention a bit as well.

Loved the way Dawn jumped straight in there -- something she's got in common with Jake, she sees something she wants and she goes and gets it.

I think that Jake sees and will see Dawn as a distraction for all his heartache as well as someone he can talk too and someone who is fun to be with.

When Jake met Chrissie she was hurting. This won't be another Jakissie or "JakDaw" but I think an on going romance of convenience for both. I think they may form a very good friendship bond eventually and be there when one or the other needs someone to talk to etc

I think now that Nanna has died this will be the point when Jakey decides it's time to stop running..

Have to admit when Jake told Dawn in the Vic that he has to be going, there's somewhere he needs to be, I thought NO PLEASE NOT AGAIN!!

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 10:35
Have to admit when Jake told Dawn in the Vic that he has to be going, there's somewhere he needs to be, I thought NO PLEASE NOT AGAIN!!

Oh, good I wasn't the only one. I was practically screaming "Oh for god's sake...chain him down Dawn, chain him to floor!"

But then he went to Nana's grave so that was okay.


Edit: Heh, JakDaw, :rotfl:

Babe14
23-12-2005, 10:36
That's what I liked about the Jake/Dawn convo -- yes, it was her flirting with him, but at the same time it was a real conversation. At first I thought that Jake was a bit too open for someone he's only met a few times if that, but I think Jake's actually starting to be more open about things. I thought he was going to get closed off again -- especially when he said about Chrissie "I let her in and...". He looked quite comfortable with Dawn as well.

Also I think Jakey was grateful that someone actually was bothered about how he was feeling. Loved the way Dawn went up to him at the bar and passed on her condolensences to him and then said "Did I say something wrong" because of Jakey's reaction and Jake's reply "No just the opposite" and then he turned and started talking to her..

Babe14
23-12-2005, 10:38
Oh, good I wasn't the only one. I was practically screaming "Oh for god's sake...chain him down Dawn, chain him to floor!"

But then he went to Nana's grave so that was okay.


Edit: Heh, JakDaw, :rotfl:

:rotfl: That was so sweet and Jake looked very lovely with all that misty coolness surrounding him..

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 10:38
Also I think Jakey was grateful that someone actually was bothered about how he was feeling. Loved the way Dawn went up to him at the bar and passed on her condolensences to him and then said "Did I say something wrong" because of Jakey's reaction and Jake's reply "No just the opposite" and then he turned and started talking to her..

And her huge smile when he said that. She's got the best smile...next to Jakey's of course, :lol:

Liked her "oh, terrific," when Jake left as well.

Layne
23-12-2005, 10:38
Oh, good I wasn't the only one. I was practically screaming "Oh for god's sake...chain him down Dawn, chain him to floor!"

But then he went to Nana's grave so that was okay.


Edit: Heh, JakDaw, :rotfl:

He looked sooooo cute bless him, when he was at nana's grave!
JakDaw :lol:

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 10:42
He looked really cute when he was out walking in the Square as well. :wub:

Babe14
23-12-2005, 10:43
And her huge smile when he said that. She's got the best smile...next to Jakey's of course, :lol:

[QUOTE]Liked her "oh, terrific," when Jake left as well.

And me!

I think that Dawn is pretty. Jakey has just got the cutest and cheekest smile, especially when he smiled the way he did when Alfie said "Nanna has changed her mind" I love it when he laughs as well, he is just so lush.

Babe14
23-12-2005, 10:46
Did you notice that Johnny and Jakey don't seem to notice one another anymore?

Layne
23-12-2005, 10:47
Did you notice that Johnny and Jakey don't seem to notice one another anymore?


yeh there was a bit last night, and jake looked over to someone and i actually thought it was johnny, because i think there was like a johnny scene before, but jake was only looking at alfie!

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 10:49
Did you notice that Johnny and Jakey don't seem to notice one another anymore?

I thought that too...seems weird, especially after it was Johnny handing the tape over that brought Chrissie down. Maybe Jake thinks it's best to let things lie and doesn't want to risk being caught up in Johnny's world again, the way Johnny tried to bring him into the feud with the Mitchells and repeat the Andy scenario ("No, I won't do it. Not again." Loved that scene)


I think we'll be able to tell exactly when Danny is going to show up -- just when Jake is getting his life back on track, totally free from Johnny, moving on from Chrissie, steady job, maybe a relationship with someone (ie, Dawn)...and then *bang* Danny shows up and ruins everything again. :rolleyes:

Babe14
23-12-2005, 10:57
yeh there was a bit last night, and jake looked over to someone and i actually thought it was johnny, because i think there was like a johnny scene before, but jake was only looking at alfie!

I expect it's because Johnny's to busy elsewhere..I would really like Jakey to be involved in his exit..

Babe14
23-12-2005, 11:00
I think we'll be able to tell exactly when Danny is going to show up -- just when Jake is getting his life back on track, totally free from Johnny, moving on from Chrissie, steady job, maybe a relationship with someone (ie, Dawn)...and then *bang* Danny shows up and ruins everything again. :rolleyes:

Sounds about right. Maybe though Danny comes back a changed man after going off travelling trying to find himself and this time he'll be the one to doing the caring..there again perhaps not!

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 11:04
Sounds about right. Maybe though Danny comes back a changed man after going off travelling trying to find himself and this time he'll be the one to doing the caring..there again perhaps not!

:rotfl: :rotfl: I've got a feeling I'm going to get very annoyed with Danny again -- especially when he apparently doesn't leave when Jake asks him to -- not just asks, pleads. I mean either something's happened with Jake to make Danny determined to stay around, or Danny's left what remains of his brain somewhere in Europe.

Babe14
23-12-2005, 11:07
:rotfl: I think this will be the case for me too and end up thinking Danny just B/off and let Jakey have a life!

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 11:12
Maybe Dawn will be around to distract Jake -- and yet again, Danny probably won't like that either. I mean, I did like Chrissie and Danny's little tug of war over Jake that week, but still... :rolleyes:


Why does Danny even come back? I thought he went travelling to get his head together...so even if he's done that, why come back to the place where he lost it and nearly died?? He was never really attached to Walford anyone -- remember how he kept bugging Jake about wanting to leave but Jake wanted to stop moving around and settle down somewhere.


Edit: Okay, Jake's occupation is according to the BBC website: Stall holder. Er...since when? Yes, it sometimes looks after Alfie's stall, but practically everybody does that for somebody sooner or later. It could be that he takes after Alfie's stall, but I'm sure the magazine said that Deono gets that. :searchme:

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 21:17
Anyone else think they're going to have Jake involved with the Millers, possibly through Dawn. He's going to need someone to interact with -- yeah, he can interact with lots of people, but pretty much everyone has a certain group that most of their interaction is with, even if they aren't part of that family. It might just be to do with the money storyline, but it struck me as an idea when Darren and Demi were talking to Jake in the cafe.

And talking of the money...do we have our possible first source of conflict -- if Jake finds out that the reason Chrissie didn't get bail is because Dawn's little brother nicked the money...hmm, :hmm: Seems weird to bring it up otherwise -- they could tie up the storyline of the Millers having the money without involving Jake further if they wanted to, but now they've made a point of Jake mentioning it, and the twins knowing that it's his.

Layne
23-12-2005, 21:23
Anyone else think they're going to have Jake involved with the Millers, possibly through Dawn. He's going to need someone to interact with -- yeah, he can interact with lots of people, but pretty much everyone has a certain group that most of their interaction is with, even if they aren't part of that family. It might just be to do with the money storyline, but it struck me as an idea when Darren and Demi were talking to Jake in the cafe.

And talking of the money...do we have our possible first source of conflict -- if Jake finds out that the reason Chrissie didn't get bail is because Dawn's little brother nicked the money...hmm, :hmm: Seems weird to bring it up otherwise -- they could tie up the storyline of the Millers having the money without involving Jake further if they wanted to, but now they've made a point of Jake mentioning it, and the twins knowing that it's his.

You've confused me!
Darren and emi know its jakes money right? Or well they have guessed but jake doesn't know that the twins have got his money?

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 21:33
No, Jake doesn't know they have it. I'm wondering if he's going to find out though.

The twins know it's his -- the penny dropped tonight when he told Dawn that he'd lost some money. Don't know why it took them this long, "Hmm...some money in a rubbish bag outside the Moon's house...I wonder who it could belong to." :lol:

Layne
23-12-2005, 21:47
No, Jake doesn't know they have it. I'm wondering if he's going to find out though.

The twins know it's his -- the penny dropped tonight when he told Dawn that he'd lost some money. Don't know why it took them this long, "Hmm...some money in a rubbish bag outside the Moon's house...I wonder who it could belong to." :lol:

Yeh lol, I think dawn might figure it out too, or do the twins tell her?

BlackKat
23-12-2005, 21:50
I think she finds the money next week...and then she apparently offers to buy Jake a drink. (Don't know when that is.) :angel: Is it wrong it'd totally amuse me if Jake was being chatted up using Chrissie's bail money. :lol:

Babe14
24-12-2005, 10:26
I think that Jake is about to suss out where his money went or someone by the name of Dawn will find it and figure out that it's the money Jakey lost. Maybe she's going to use it to her advantage to lure Jakey into bed!! After which Jake finds out that Dawn has his money or knows of it's whereabouts. Oh dear Jakey is going to be a bit p'd off with Dawny. No worries though Dawn will charm his boxies off of him again without a doubt!! Jakey won't be no push over though!! LOL

I can see Jakey taking over Alfie's stall for a while..I'd like him to run Scarlets after Johnny goes, he'd be good as a slightly dodgy nightclub owner. My fav is still builder Jakey....*Swoon* *Lush*
Mind you Jakey may well end up running the bookies with Pat. Um..there again a lot of Wicks are coming into the soap so I think it will more than likely become a Wicks empire.

Decided Slightly Dodgy nightclub owner or Builder Jakey!

I'm wondering if Danny comes back because Jake is in trouble and he thinks that he needs him and possibly this is why he won't leave when Jake tells him to...

Wonder how Danny will react to Nanna's death???

BlackKat
24-12-2005, 10:36
There was this webcam script with Dawn a few weeks ago:

Filming today: Episode 949 Tx: 09/02/06
DAWN: That's the last time I take your advice!
HONEY: What happened?
DAWN: He told me off, made me feel like a silly little girl.
HONEY: Oh, I'm sure he didn't mean it - maybe he's playing hard to get...

Talking about Jake and the money maybe... :searchme:

I'd like too see Jake running Scarlets -- don't know where he'd get the money to buy it (I think the money ends up getting set on fire for some reason.) though. And Dawn could work on the bar, :thumbsup:


I'm wondering if Danny comes back because Jake is in trouble and he thinks that he needs him and possibly this is why he won't leave when Jake tells him to...

I was thinking that. It says Danny returns to tie up a storyline -- so there's already a storyline that's going on. And Joel said on This Morning, "He's gonna go quite dark for a bit and then er...it all...there's something massive happening." Which I took to mean, Jake goes quite dark and then the something massive happens. :searchme: Can't think what trouble Jake would be in though.

BlackKat
25-12-2005, 22:10
Hee, the scarf is back. :wub: Loved Alfie's goodbye to Jake -- pinching his cheeks and telling him to stay out of trouble. They really work well together, shame Alfie's left now.

Also curious as to why Alfie didn't tell Jake about the money -- worried that Jake would go back to Chrissie with it, and he knows thats not the best thing for him? :searchme: Or just not wanting Jake to go over there and start a fight? Seeing as Alfie's gone so we won't know, I'm going to pretend it's the first, cos that's kinda nice of Alfie. :lol:

And Dawn wanting to invite Jakey over for Boxing Day :wub: -- don't know if she will now, what with her dad turning up, but it was a nice thought. And Jake saying she almost tried to lick his face off at Nana's funeral. :lol:

Bit disappointed we didn't get to see Jake with his turkey burger, or even see him at all after Alfie had left. Ah well, don't want to complain cos it was a good episode.

And the scarf is back which is all good. :thumbsup:

the_watts_rule
27-12-2005, 12:53
Yeh lol, I think dawn might figure it out too, or do the twins tell her?

I thought Dawn had already figured it out.

sheilamarie
27-12-2005, 12:55
I thought Dawn had already figured it out.i dont think so but i think she works it out in the next few days and takes the money to spend on her self or give it to jake or somthing like that