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parkerman

04-04-2006, 10:25

Yes despite the improvements tonight, Corrie was still miles better imo.
Yes, I think that was a real problem for Eastenders last night. It's not too good at the moment as it is - though I agree last night's was better than last week, except for Ruby (aaarrrggghhh) - but having Coronation Street either side of it just showed it up for the second rate soap it is at the moment.

Full marks to Adam Woodyatt though. He was really good. Amazingly I have to say I also quite liked Ross Kemp last night although he didn't have much to do.

Siobhan

04-04-2006, 11:51

Xx-Vicky-xX

04-04-2006, 12:14

I was actually suprised by last night episode. from reading the spoiler it made it sound that Ian was just been spiteful to Phil about keeping ben away from him but he has real reasons. Excellent acting by Adam. :clap::clap::clap:

Yeh i read the mag and it sounded like Ian just said no you aint having Ben for no reason but he was upset so i could understand why really...fab acting from Adam

Siobhan

04-04-2006, 12:29

Yeh i read the mag and it sounded like Ian just said no you aint having Ben for no reason but he was upset so i could understand why really...fab acting from Adam

And it wasn't like Phil didn't get to see Ben, He could have chatted to him in the cafe instead of going off at the deep end. Phil is just nasty and has no respect for Ian. He lost his mother and Phil just had a go at him...

alan45

04-04-2006, 14:46

And it wasn't like Phil didn't get to see Ben, He could have chatted to him in the cafe instead of going off at the deep end. Phil is just nasty and has no respect for Ian. He lost his mother and Phil just had a go at him...Perhaps he needs to go see Gwants FERAPIST and learn anger management skills

Florijo

04-04-2006, 15:29

Great stuff from Adam Woodyatt. Great stuff from him.

I hate Ruby. I have nothing more to say about her, other than I hate Ruby.

Agree about Dot's reaction to finding out about Johnny and Dennis. She treated Dennis as a son and it was a poor way of writing her reaction to finding out Johnny ordered his murder.

Xx-Vicky-xX

04-04-2006, 17:11

:eek: Ive not had my input yet about lastnight...how unusual...so i thought id come and do it

Cant have been very interesting dont really remember much of it but then i had just got my new phone so was messing about with that instad of paying any attention to Eastenders.

Ill start with Ben, how cute was he, getting all upset at the pictures, and im glad Peter ran after him. Could Jane not have taken Ben with Phil if Ian was busy going through Kathy's stuff.

Did i miss something...Ian said when Lucy gets back they will go to the theme park...when did she go anywhere or is this another moment that just happened with no warning.

I think Phil was a bit out of order demanding that Ian canceled the trip to the theme park just so he could see Ben it could have waited till another day

Bless Ruby seeing all that in the papers. Wasnt Stacey brilliant...cant believe Bradley thought she was with another man...i just wanted Stacey to tell him in the pub what was going on even if she said Ruby is at mine i cant say alot else but she needs me right now or something very brief like that

I dont think alot else happened so ill leave it there...i actually managed to remember more than i thought

DaVeyWaVey

04-04-2006, 17:35

I am glad Ruby admitted to Stacey that she was acting like a bitch when she last seen her and a great line back from Stacey where she said "Don't worry, i can be a bitch sometimes as well" :D

parkerman

04-04-2006, 17:43

Ill start with Ben, how cute was he, getting all upset at the pictures, and im glad Peter ran after him. Could Jane not have taken Ben with Phil if Ian was busy going through Kathy's stuff.

I think Phil was a bit out of order demanding that Ian canceled the trip to the theme park just so he could see Ben it could have waited till another day

No-one knew where Ian was. Jane and Phil didn't know he was going through the photographs. By the time Jane realised what had happened it was all too late.

Phil thought Ian was just messing him around. He didn't know why Ian hadn't turned up. That's why he insisted on seeing Ben the next day.

Xx-Vicky-xX

04-04-2006, 18:09

No-one knew where Ian was. Jane and Phil didn't know he was going through the photographs. By the time Jane realised what had happened it was all too late.

Phil thought Ian was just messing him around. He didn't know why Ian hadn't turned up. That's why he insisted on seeing Ben the next day.

Jane could have just said to Phil "look Ian obviously has his reasons why dont i come ith you instead"

By the time Phil demanded Ben the next day he knew about the photos

Richie_lecturer

04-04-2006, 19:15

Also, since when have you had to book to go to Theme Parks? :searchme:

Dutchgirl

04-04-2006, 19:18

Also, since when have you had to book to go to Theme Parks? :searchme:
Uhm if you write for Eastenders, you can come up with anything?:lol:

Richie_lecturer

04-04-2006, 19:21

That is true. I should stop moaning, I've come to expect this from EE these days! :mad:

shannisrules

04-04-2006, 19:33

omg! i thought that was dennis runnign through the square at the start it looked liked him a lot! especially because dennis used to jog around the square a lot in the morning

*-Rooney-*

04-04-2006, 19:40

yeah that puzzled me too? theme parks are just there to go to

alan45

04-04-2006, 19:49

Also, since when have you had to book to go to Theme Parks? :searchme:I would have thought the residents of Albert Square would be wary about theme parks follwing the last funfair they had :nono: And no Den Watts around to save the day :(

Chris_2k11

04-04-2006, 19:58

I thought that was a really good episode! :)

Bit harsh though Sonia. :nono:

Florijo

04-04-2006, 19:59

Jeez, Sonia is a right bitch. Anyone would think it was Martin that had the affair!

littlemo

04-04-2006, 20:09

Jeez, Sonia is a right bitch. Anyone would think it was Martin that had the affair!

I know! Poor Martin! He's grown into a real family man. He loves Sonia to pieces, he loves Rebecca just as much, and now Sonia's run off with somebody else. And he's just mean't to get on with his life. I just don't understand Sonia's way of thinking at all!

How could she say that he was dead to her?! That's an awful thing to say! When this romance started I think everybody thought she was too good for him, not now they've completely turned it on it's head. She's a spoilt and selfish. Fair enough if she doesn't want to be with Martin anymore but he's the father of her child, she can't just disown him, just like that.

Xx-Vicky-xX

04-04-2006, 20:14

Well i cant believe im even going to let these words enter this message but i hated that episode it was absolute rubbish for once i agree with any comments that might suggest that episode was crap.

Sonia was nasty she should have let him speak it was obvious he wasnt there for a row. I hope Martin doesnt back down and forgive her

Phil was rather nasty to Jane he deserves to be reported for that in hope that he will realise he was to harsh and over stepped the mark there.

The rest was crap so im not even going to give it my time to go into but i will say poor Jake felt sorry for him tonight

BlackKat

04-04-2006, 20:15

Sonia deserves everything she gets. No one should be on her side because she cheated on her husband. End of story. I wanted to smack her and Naomi so many times tonight.

Also Naomi really needs a new coat. Her current one looks as though she's going to a fancy dress party dressed as a rather dull worm.

DaVeyWaVey

04-04-2006, 20:17

A really good episode tonight. The Jane/Phil/Ian stuff was my favourite bits tonight. I really don't like Phil though because he thinks he can get his own way all the time. The Martin/Naomi/Sonia stuff was good as well but i really feel sorry for Martin. He needs his friends round him right now. Overall 8/10 :)

Florijo

04-04-2006, 20:18

littlemo

04-04-2006, 20:31

They have totally ruined Sonia now. There is no need to treat Martin like that and I feel really sorry for him. She deserves everything she gets.

I wonder what Natalie Cassidy thinks about Sonia's personality transplant.

I don't think she'd like being mean to James, they are really good friends in real-life. But she's an actress whose good at what she does so it doesn't really matter does it?!

BlackKat

04-04-2006, 20:37

I don't think she'd like being mean to James, they are really good friends in real-life. But she's an actress whose good at what she does so it doesn't really matter does it?!

Well it does if she has any regard for the character. While she can't write the storylines, and shouldn't have any overall say in them, she should also recognise when the integrity of the character is at risk, which, imo, in Sonia's case it is.

littlemo

04-04-2006, 20:42

Well it does if she has any regard for the character. While she can't write the storylines, and shouldn't have any overall say in them, she should also recognise when the integrity of the character is at risk, which, imo, in Sonia's case it is.

Yeah but I think after the storyline has run it's course, and Sonia realises what a mistake she's made ruining her marriage, Natalie might regain her characters respectability again. Well that's my hope anyway!

BlackKat

04-04-2006, 20:45

Sometimes the damage is done though. Maybe they'll manage to repair Sonia's character (though I never liked the character that much anyway) but maybe not. :searchme:

crazygirl

04-04-2006, 20:50

well has for that phil i have really gone off him! he is so selfish i cant believe the way he is acting with jane and ian

Richie_lecturer

04-04-2006, 21:08

EastEnders tonight returned to the same old drivel we have come to expect in the last three years. That was abysmal, and only the ending saved any face it had left.

Gus once again turns into Agony Aunt. :rolleyes:

The Joe/Bert 'comedy' stuff at Dot's was abysmal. Also this 'Joe secret' is just so boring. Spit it out dude. :rolleyes:

Sonia thinks she is doing no harm in the Square whilst shacking up with Naomi. Give over. :rolleyes:

Phil has eighteen personality changes in the episode, as once again the Phil/Ian feud rears its ugly head. :rolleyes:

That party at Gary and Minty's was pure cheese. :thumbsdow

Dull dull dull. Must try harder :thumbsdow Nick should return and bump off half the cast. :thumbsup:

3.5/10

crazygirl

04-04-2006, 21:14

yes very boring has usual but eastenders has been dull for a long time now

Chris_2k11

04-04-2006, 21:16

yes very boring has usual but eastenders has been dull for a long time nowI thought it looked quite sunny when Martin was sat on Arfur's bench? :confused:

:D

alkalinetrio

04-04-2006, 22:43

Richie_lecturer

04-04-2006, 22:47

I thought it looked quite sunny when Martin was sat on Arfur's bench? :confused:

:D
When he's in a bad mood (which is nearly always), Lanky Moron blocks out the sunlight. :moonie:

littlemo

04-04-2006, 22:53

tonights episode was alright cant remember to much of it to be honest but from what i remember was alright! and im not suprised martins the way hes acting when someone u love just leaves u for another women and moves other end of the road your bound to feel like crap!

Yeah your right! Support Martin! lol. I'm really surprised at the reaction in the square. Usually when someone does something wrong they come down on you like a ton of bricks, but it's not happening with Sonia. Look at all the grief Martin's had in the past. When people found out he was Rebecca's dad, when all that stuff happened with Jamie. And I'm sure people would have been up in arms if Martin had gone off with another woman, and took up with her across the street from Sonia.

Is it because they feel they need to be politically correct, and ignore the fact that she's having an affair, just because it's with a woman?!

Really the reaction is bizarre!

alkalinetrio

04-04-2006, 23:11

i do hope martin gets to see hes daughter still tho

Meh

04-04-2006, 23:13

Yeah your right! Support Martin! lol. I'm really surprised at the reaction in the square. Usually when someone does something wrong they come down on you like a ton of bricks, but it's not happening with Sonia. Look at all the grief Martin's had in the past. When people found out he was Rebecca's dad, when all that stuff happened with Jamie. And I'm sure people would have been up in arms if Martin had gone off with another woman, and took up with her across the street from Sonia.

Is it because they feel they need to be politically correct, and ignore the fact that she's having an affair, just because it's with a woman?!

Really the reaction is bizarre!

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Most of the BBC tends to be politically correct so it shouldn't come as a big suprise.

littlemo

04-04-2006, 23:16

i do hope martin gets to see hes daughter still tho

The ball is in his court now. Sonia has left the Fowlers, who are maintaining contact with Rebecca. Without Martin's help, things could be difficult for Sonia. To maintain contact with Margaret on an individual basis, she would have to admit that she's left Martin for somebody else. And since Margaret has got used to the arrangement at Pauline's, I think she would feel more comfortable organising things with her and Martin, other than Sonia who I don't think she trusts that much.

littlemo

04-04-2006, 23:21

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Most of the BBC tends to be politically correct so it shouldn't come as a big suprise.

Thanks. I don't think it's realistic to behave that way in a soap. It's supposed to reflect some sort of reality.

stacyefc

04-04-2006, 23:46

i know i felt so sorry for martin in tonights episode i don't blame him for the way he is acting

littlemo

04-04-2006, 23:53

Anyone want to chip in on the Stacey/Bradley thread?! Nobody other than me has posted since yesterday. I feel like I'm holding the down the fought all myself! lol. No pressure.

Johnny Allen

05-04-2006, 08:09

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 08:13

parkerman

05-04-2006, 09:21

With the whole theme park thing, Ian probably would have to book up as he was surely intending to stay a couple of nights as Alton Towers is quite a distance, there would be no point going on the off chance, thats probably why he booked up.
You can book tickets for Alton Towers. There is a hotel on the site which can be booked as Johnny says. Also you can book tickets for the Park itself - it allows you to get in half an hour (or an hour - can't remember exactly) before those without tickets.

Anyway, it is much more interesting discussing ticketing arrangements at Alton Towers than it is discussing last night's episode...

If it's not too much of a spoiler I am now going to speculate on tomorrow's episode....

Sonia and Naomi come out of their flat. Sonia looks uncomfortable.
Naomi: What's the matter?
Sonia: Everybody's looking at me.
Naomi: You've got just as much right to be here as they have.
Sonia: But Martin...
Naomi: He'll have to get over it. Ignore him.

And so on for the next hundred episodes....

tammyy2j

05-04-2006, 11:43

EE boring last night. I hope Sonia and Naomi die or leave soon they are awful boring characters.

callummc

05-04-2006, 11:49

coudn't agree with you more tammy,load of codswollop

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 12:03

EE boring last night. I hope Sonia and Naomi die or leave soon they are awful boring characters.

Totally agree i hate them and now they are makeing Sonia turn in to a nasty character

Dutchgirl

05-04-2006, 15:23

Sonia is a right cow, why does Martin have to forgive her right away, she only left him a couple of weeks ago, Naomi is out of line to expect that from him. Tsssss.:nono:

Siobhan

05-04-2006, 15:25

Sonia is a right cow, why does Martin have to forgive her right away, she only left him a couple of weeks ago, Naomi is out of line to expect that from him. Tsssss.:nono:

Yeah I was thinking that last night when Naomi made a comment like when it going to end, and I thought, not for ages.. Martin's wife just left him, it will be ages before she will be forgiven, if at all

x Amby x

05-04-2006, 17:13

last nights episode was pretty boring, i thought Sonia was well harsh to Martin, bless him! What was going on with Joe and bert?

Siobhan

05-04-2006, 17:14

last nights episode was pretty boring, i thought Sonia was well harsh to Martin, bless him! What was going on with Joe and bert?

they were trying to make Dot like them so they said they would fit her shower as a surprise but she got a suprise alright :rotfl::rotfl:

*-Rooney-*

05-04-2006, 18:34

yeah sonia was a bit of a bitch to him eh especially when he went to her door to talk about rebecca, im glad he gave her a piece of her mind when he told her . what about everyone else i know they shouldnt be made to choose but gus had already said he would go out with martin but blew him off, thats bad. and heres me thinking it was sonia who had the affair because everyones acting like it was martin

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 19:34

littlemo

05-04-2006, 19:36

She deserved everything she got for that i just hope Martin does not back down on this she doesnt deserve to see Rebecca

I hate Sonia at the moment, she is being completely selfish and incompassionate to Martin, but he has no right to keep her daughter from her. I don't think anyone deserves that.

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 20:20

I hate Sonia at the moment, she is being completely selfish and incompassionate to Martin, but he has no right to keep her daughter from her. I don't think anyone deserves that.

I dont tink she does she should never say to the man she once loved "your dead to me" and be able to get away with it

littlemo

05-04-2006, 20:31

I dont tink she does she should never say to the man she once loved "your dead to me" and be able to get away with it

No that comment was really hurtful! I can't believe she said that! It was seriously below the belt.

I think Pauline and Martin's reaction is completely understandable. And I'm sure both of them would like Sonia to go to hell! But it's not up to Pauline to decide whether Sonia gets to see her daughter or not. Pauline isn't her mother! And Martin isn't either. Whatever else they can say about her, they know how much Sonia loves her. They can't deny that.

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 20:45

No that comment was really hurtful! I can't believe she said that! It was seriously below the belt.

I think Pauline and Martin's reaction is completely understandable. And I'm sure both of them would like Sonia to go to hell! But it's not up to Pauline to decide whether Sonia gets to see her daughter or not. Pauline isn't her mother! And Martin isn't either. Whatever else they can say about her, they know how much Sonia loves her. They can't deny that.

I know she loves Becky but Martin is her dad and she was well out of order to him last night and deserves what Martin says i mean yeh maybe Sonia should see Becky but not right away i think they should make her wait for a bit first

BlackKat

05-04-2006, 20:46

Technically if Rebecca is visiting the Fowlers, they do have a right to say Sonia can't come. I'm sure they don't want her ruining their time with Becky. If Sonia wants to see Rebecca she'll have to contact Margaret herself and explain the situation.

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 21:02

BlackKat

05-04-2006, 21:10

It could also be that Margaret wouldn't want Becky to see Sonia -- she was hesitent enough about the contact, and it could be that she only wants Becky to be visiting a stable environment that she doesn't feel Sonia now provides. If that does happen I hope it doesn't damage Martin's contact with Becky. Because then my hate for Sonia really would go through the roof.

*-Rooney-*

05-04-2006, 21:19

i dont know what i think will happen, sure sonia and martin once were a stable environment but not any more and id hardly class gary and mintys a stable environment i personally hope she doesnt get to see her

1. she gave her away practically within a week of having her
2. when pauline wanted her she was willing to fight against pauline
3. she abducted her from the adoptive parents when she realised she had made a mistake

and i dont think margaret will ever trust sonia properly due to the abduction. whilst pauline and martin still provide a stable environment for rebecca to visit

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 21:39

*-Rooney-*

05-04-2006, 21:42

no i think sonia has spoilt enough relationships for the moment

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 22:06

no i think sonia has spoilt enough relationships for the moment

I totally agree and i dont see how she can expect Martin to forgive her so soon

BlackKat

05-04-2006, 22:21

Not to mention her and Naomi acting like Martin and anyone else who isn't on Sonia's "side," are being the unreasonable ones. :angry: "How long is this going to go on for?" Hate! :mad:

Xx-Vicky-xX

05-04-2006, 22:38

Not to mention her and Naomi acting like Martin and anyone else who isn't on Sonia's "side," are being the unreasonable ones. :angry: "How long is this going to go on for?" Hate! :mad:

You think alot like me when it comes to these to i dont see why they expect Martin to forgive Sonia and for everyone to understand and support them straigt away...it will take time they should just leave people to get used to the idea first

*-Rooney-*

05-04-2006, 23:41

the thing that is really annoying me is naomi, she has finally got what she wanted to since she joined the square. now she talks about martin as if he is being unfair towards her and sonia, is she stupid. if you split a marriage surely even her knows there will be consequences and it wont be forgotten overnight

Florijo

06-04-2006, 08:55

Xx-Vicky-xX

06-04-2006, 10:51

I guess nobody cares about marriage anymore in Walford as the reaction does seem rather odd.

Sonia is another EE character who I can now class in the once loved, now hate pile. I hope her and Naomi split and she is left homeless and completly alone. Serves the silly little cow right! :mad:

I totally agree i guess its about the only other thing that hasnt happened to Sonia...where else can the character go now she has had just about everyting hasnt she

Richie_lecturer

06-04-2006, 16:56

Not quite, she hasn't died yet. :nono:

x Amby x

06-04-2006, 17:31

I think Sonia was way out of order saying that to Martin, because of that she can't see Rebecca now!

parkerman

06-04-2006, 18:07

Not quite, she hasn't died yet. :nono:

Nor has she come back to life after dying. :thumbsdow

Chris_2k11

06-04-2006, 18:09

Nor has she come back to life after dying. :thumbsdow...or died again. :cool:

parkerman

06-04-2006, 18:24

Exactly. There's still plenty of mileage for Sonia yet.

alkalinetrio

06-04-2006, 19:55

who accturly owns the betting shop now?

Florijo

06-04-2006, 19:59

Go Jim!! :cheer: Oh, how I enjoyed that. :bow:

Xx-Vicky-xX

06-04-2006, 20:02

Well those who come in here alot will know i have alot to say usually about episodes well today i dont really as it was all rubbish but i will say i loved the end so glad someone said what Jim did she deserved that...brilliant speech

x Amby x

06-04-2006, 20:02

BlackKat

06-04-2006, 20:17

I want to marry Jim Branning. Of course he’ll probably apologise tomorrow and we’ll be back to everyone loves Sonia but I was definitely cheering him on tonight. :cheer: Everything he said was right, Sonia was behaving appalling.

Shockingly, I’ve warmed to Bert. While he may have worse manners than Joe, I actually think he’s a much better person. Joe’s creeping me out these days, while Bert’s shown instances of being a good person – helping Martin, tonight with Rebecca, and Ben’s birthday party as well.

The Slaters annoyed the hell out of me – yes, including Stacey. This is what she’ll do from now on, I can almost guarantee it. As soon as Ruby’s back in the Square she’s Ruby best friend and every storyline will be “Ruby is upset about something. Stacey runs around the Square yelling at everyone in sight until she finds out why.”

Kevin and the carlot – dire. Just completely dire. Deano annoys the hell out of me. Am I supposed to care that apparently all this behaviour is because “He’s living the life his brother never got the chance to.” All I get from that is his brother was planning on growing up to be an annoying little twerp.

I’m enjoying the Mitchells return a lot more than I did last time. While Johnny Week did have problems, especially the beginning of the week, I’m enjoying having them back in the Square. Hopefully it won’t decend into crap like Phil’s return before Christmas did with him becoming Juley’s pimp.

Good episode in places, but ruined by Sonia and Deano for me I’m afraid.

littlemo

06-04-2006, 20:17

Excellent acting from John Bardon tonight! I thought the Stacey and Ruby stuff was quite good! And i loved the Deano/Kevin/Darren bit too! lol I loved the bit when Honey said she had a dream about giving birth to a cat!

Yeah I agree with all of that! That comment about giving birth to a cat, by Honey was so funny! Weird! And they saw the picture on the scan, that was really sweet.

I really admire Martin for what he's doing. He's shaped up to be a really good dad! What Jim said was what everyone was thinking. Martin should have said it to Sonia a long time ago. Sonia's treating Martin like an idiot!

I did find that Deano/Kevin/Darren bit really funny! Kevin is such a character, and Deano thinks he knows it all. He's really gullible.

Some hard talking by Stacey to Jake. I feel sorry for him. I think Stacey should wait for Ruby to tell her what's been going on. She probably shouldn't interfere. But Stacey is being a really good friend to her at the moment! Ruby's really lucky to have somebody like Stacey on her side.

littlemo

06-04-2006, 20:24

BlackKat

06-04-2006, 20:45

Forgot to mention: Carly wants to be careful with all this talk of college. It might just be a once a week course, but pretty soon she'll be reading them fool books, going to art exhibitions, becoming a lesbian, thinking she's better than anyone else ever. It's a dark place college. Look at Sonia.

Dutchgirl

06-04-2006, 21:43

Shockingly, I’ve warmed to Bert. While he may have worse manners than Joe, I actually think he’s a much better person. Joe’s creeping me out these days, while Bert’s shown instances of being a good person – helping Martin, tonight with Rebecca, and Ben’s birthday party as well
Yuck, me too how funny is that? He isn't that irritating anymore, he makes people feel comfortable in awkward situations.

littlemo

06-04-2006, 21:59

Yuck, me too how funny is that? He isn't that irritating anymore, he makes people feel comfortable in awkward situations.

Yeah he does!

I forgot to mention that bit at the beginning where Bert was talking dirty to Big Mo over the phone, and Ruby was just sitting there trying not to listen. It made me laugh (well cringe, but it was quite amusing).

x Amby x

06-04-2006, 22:13

Yeah he does!

I forgot to mention that bit at the beginning where Bert was talking dirty to Big Mo over the phone, and Ruby was just sitting there trying not to listen. It made me laugh (well cringe, but it was quite amusing).

yeah i liked that bit, Ruby had the face of a typical teenager! lol

Xx-Vicky-xX

06-04-2006, 22:17

I want to marry Jim Branning. Of course he’ll probably apologise tomorrow and we’ll be back to everyone loves Sonia but I was definitely cheering him on tonight. :cheer: Everything he said was right, Sonia was behaving appalling.

I dont think Jim will back down on this not for a while anyway we have had the remninders about how racest he was to Alan when he maried Carol and he obviously hasnt changed much only this time i guess its just worse because Naomi is a black girl...I dont think there would have been many lesbian partners when Jim was growing up and he just sees it as wrong and i think if he is a racist Naomi being black makes it worse

littlemo

06-04-2006, 22:22

yeah i liked that bit, Ruby had the face of a typical teenager! lol

Yeah, I was thinking about what Stacey would have of said in that situation. She probably would have come up with some funny one liner!

It made me laugh when Stacey was complaining about Bert being on the stall, and Big Mo said she was just jealous. And then Stacey said, 'Of Bert?!, Oh yeah, he's gorgeous', she said it in such a way. I'm still laughing over it now! lol.

I'm going to put that in the quote section now I'm thinking of it.

alkalinetrio

06-04-2006, 22:22

i dont think hes a racist anymore! maybe cant take to the "girls loving girls" thing and weeeeey for him yelling at sonia! hated it when she went and blackmailed pauline give her a slap pauline:P i enjoyed tonights episode! now im looking forward to see if grant gets hes free meal 2moz:P haha

*-Rooney-*

06-04-2006, 22:24

well come on EE writers lets bring it on

Xx-Vicky-xX

06-04-2006, 22:53

i dont think hes a racist anymore!

I dont know but i cant see someone like Jim changing much

*-Rooney-*

06-04-2006, 23:37

I dont know but i cant see someone like Jim changing much

we have never had any need to see any racist side in him until now.

it must be hard for him i mean in his day this sort of thing was apparently unacceptable and to face the fact that its your own family is the worst.
he will never truly come around to that idea so i would put any thoughts of morning tea with jim, dot, sonia and naomiia i think are out of the question

maybe i am wrong

Kim

06-04-2006, 23:48

Oh! What happened with Dot's foot?! I watched it on Tuesday's episode, but I can't remember! I know it was something to do with Joe and Bert. But I didn't think it was anything to constitute her being in hospital?!

Good that she mentioned Bradley. We are always complaining that characters never mention people who aren't in it. So I'm glad Dot did.

I think we might have to wait until next week to see Bradley, Shame!

She tripped over Joe and Bert's toolbag, which they had left in the hallway near the door because they had finished fixing the shower and were about to leave until Bert managed to break Dot's favourite mug. They were in the kitchen in the process of fixing it when Dot and Jim returned and Dot was in a bit of a hurry due to not wanting the chips that Jim had treated her to as a diversion, to get cold. She caught Bert hiding between the door and a cabinet in the kitchen and, having posessed her suspicions about him for some time, was convinced that he had broken in and ran out to Jim and tripped over the toolbag on the way. We didn't see her do this, we just heard Jim say that she had a nasty sprain so I presume she went to the hospital off screen too.

Richie_lecturer

07-04-2006, 02:18

With the exception of Pauline and Jim, that was another dreadful episode.

I'm stopping watching again now, I just can't watch it any more. That will please some people. :)

Xx-Vicky-xX

07-04-2006, 07:13

we have never had any need to see any racist side in him until now.

We saw a racist side to Jim when Carol married Alan, he was outraged that his daughter was marrying a black manbut i think in time he came around but since then i cant see he has changed much inside okay his not mentioned it being a problem but i think this is another one of them things that Eastenders has forgot about

soapyclean

07-04-2006, 07:27

Richie, you stop watching EE that will be the day. Your addicted to it :D so give into the temptation of the sonia/naomi story line, which by the way I think is so forced anyway.

LOVED Jim, told Sonia exactly how everyone else was feeling about the visit with Rebecca. It doesn't have anything to do with Naomi being black, its the fact that Sonia has changed beyond recognition for him. He wants the old Sonia who was always making mistakes but never manipulated anyone, I so wanted Martin to tell Naomi to begger off at the swings.

That was totally uncalled for her being around them, it was their time with their daughter. Jim didn't know about that either, but hit the nail on the head when he said she'd conned Rebecca hook, line and sinker. Rebecca does deserve much more than she got during that meeting, as for kissing Martin that was pushing the limit that was, no matter what he said she didn't truly look at his face. That would've told her everything wasn't ok, and what she'd done was a crappy thing to do.

Loved Minty/Gary/Carly, Phil/Grunt/Jane was excellent as well especially when she told Grunt she owed him one, for warning us of what they gonna do next :D apart from free breakfast.

Deano/Darren BORING, loved Kevin's mind making those to go head to head with each other over the car lot. :D

Jake/Ruby/Stacey/Pat lumped them all together cos they were interconnected at some point. Ruby and Jake know what happened and if Ruby hasn't told, then Jake wasn't going to tell either, as he said it was up to RUby to say what happened.

Dot/JOe feud bit dragged out, but loving her stance on she doesn't like them, who would blame her really since some people do have a sixth sense about people.

Boring at points, the writers better come up with something more interesting than what they have been of late. Even Emmerdale which i watched a bit of was more grittier than EE of late.

emma_strange

07-04-2006, 08:20

we have never had any need to see any racist side in him until now.

I don't think it's so much that he's racist, just homophobic i think. Because he didnt have a problem when Sonia was with Gus, did he? And Carol was married to Alan.

Xx-Vicky-xX

07-04-2006, 08:26

And Carol was married to Alan.

As i said above he was dead against Carol and Alan at first because Alan was black...Jim actually refused to go to the wedding he was so against it

parkerman

07-04-2006, 09:29

Jim's best friend is Patrick of course.

Anyway, my son solved a problem that has been puzzling me for the last couple of weeks. Why has Stacey tuned from super bitch to caring loving Stacey and Sonia turned from caring loving Sonia to super bitch? As a casual viewer, he asked me last night why Stacey and Sonia were reading each other's scripts. That must be the answer. Their scripts have got mixed up somehow.

You've got to feel sorry for Johnny. He gives himself up so as to keep his daughter and she disowns him anyway. So now he's doing life for nothing.

And what is all this about Kevin giving Darren a car. How old is Darren?

Xx-Vicky-xX

07-04-2006, 09:40

And what is all this about Kevin giving Darren a car. How old is Darren?

I think he either said it or i read somewhere that he is nearly 16

parkerman

07-04-2006, 09:54

Exactly! What would Darren do with a car???

Xx-Vicky-xX

07-04-2006, 10:08

Exactly! What would Darren do with a car???

I didnt understand that either...Kevin cant be a very good car salesman if he is willing to give a 16 year old child a car

Siobhan

07-04-2006, 11:08

I didnt understand that either...Kevin cant be a very good car salesman if he is willing to give a 16 year old child a car

He is doing it to get Deano to work with him.. he is playing one off against the other..

littlemo

07-04-2006, 11:27

I didnt understand that either...Kevin cant be a very good car salesman if he is willing to give a 16 year old child a car

I think you can have driving lessons when your 16, maybe he'll pay for them as well.

tammyy2j

07-04-2006, 11:34

Well done Jim he was so right on the mark about Sonia. She is a cow.

Martin should have told Naomi to piss off at the swings or Sonia should have if she cared about Rebecca. I think it is time Naomi and Sonia left Walford either alive or dead i really don't care. They are awful characters.

littlemo

07-04-2006, 11:39

Anyway, my son solved a problem that has been puzzling me for the last couple of weeks. Why has Stacey tuned from super bitch to caring loving Stacey and Sonia turned from caring loving Sonia to super bitch? As a casual viewer, he asked me last night why Stacey and Sonia were reading each other's scripts. That must be the answer. Their scripts have got mixed up somehow.

It might seem that way but I do feel what's happening to Stacey's character at the moment is quite realistic. Bradley is clearly a good influence on her, and I don't think she'll change her personality. She's still no angel, and from reading the webcam scripts it doesn't seem as if she is set to be. I think it's nice to see a different sides to her character.

I'm not sure about Sonia, she's definetely become harder than she used to be, a lot more selfish. But then again I remember she's always had those characteristics cropping up in her personality.

I think Sonia seems nice from the outside, but has a bad attitude, and Stacey seems like she has a bad attitude, but it's actually a front, because she's a really nice girl.

diamond1

07-04-2006, 11:42

totally agree with that last comment by tammyy2j its not enough to rub it in and stroll about like you have done nothing wrong with sonia but now walking up to the guys child and playing with her when you have just taken his wife. Going back to sonia shame its a jim will forgive her i was up for a family feud.but at least with any luck sonia and naomi will have a well deserved 3 month holiday then extend it for another 4 months because she has bored me way too much over the last year and i need a break (i shame its a fantasy)

Forgot to mention: Carly wants to be careful with all this talk of college. It might just be a once a week course, but pretty soon she'll be reading them fool books, going to art exhibitions, becoming a lesbian, thinking she's better than anyone else ever. It's a dark place college. Look at Sonia.

haha yeah

x Amby x

07-04-2006, 11:48

I think you can have driving lessons when your 16, maybe he'll pay for them as well.

But Darren isn't even 16 yet, I mean hes only just turned 15 a couple of months ago! lol

*-Rooney-*

07-04-2006, 11:53

I didnt understand that either...Kevin cant be a very good car salesman if he is willing to give a 16 year old child a car

he is doing it as an incentive so that darren will work there until deano decides to come around and work there

chance

07-04-2006, 11:57

What did Jim say to Sonia? kids were yelling so i missed that bit.

Johnny Allen

07-04-2006, 11:58

Kevin is certainly one of the stars of the show, when he was talking in a foreign language he cracked me up. The Jim and Sonia moments were quite moving and very good acting from the pair of them.

Florijo

07-04-2006, 12:35

What did Jim say to Sonia? kids were yelling so i missed that bit.

From what I remember, he said that she had conned Rebecca and that he does not have a granddaughter anymore.

BlackKat

07-04-2006, 12:39

He also said that Sonia disgusts him. Finally someone speaks the truth! :cheer:

soapyclean

07-04-2006, 13:04

He also said Sonia had used everyone that day to get what she wanted, he doesn't recognise the person in front of him. He wants the old sonia cos she wouldn't do the things she's doing now, when she said "But grandad". He told her not to call him that she's not his grandaughter anymore.

parkerman

07-04-2006, 13:57

But Darren isn't even 16 yet, I mean hes only just turned 15 a couple of months ago! lol

You can't go on the road until you are 17 whether you are a learner or not. Deano would also know this, so why does he think his dad is going to give Darren a car?

Siobhan

07-04-2006, 14:01

You can't go on the road until you are 17 whether you are a learner or not. Deano would also know this, so why does he think his dad is going to give Darren a car?

Cause his dad said he would.. so deano thinks it is true

Richie_lecturer

07-04-2006, 14:05

Richie, you stop watching EE that will be the day. Your addicted to it :D so give into the temptation of the sonia/naomi story line, which by the way I think is so forced anyway.

I stopped watching a few weeks ago for a fortnight. I only retuned to see if Johnny (Rotten) week was upto the hype. I am now turning off again. No doubt I shall tune watch it on a few occasions over the coming months, but there really is NOTHING to keep me hooked - hence why I'll only tune in occasionally from now on for the foreseeable future. My love affair with EastEnders has long since diminished. :(

Don't even get me started on the Sonomi storyline. :angry:

Florijo

07-04-2006, 14:20

Sonomi?!?! :eek: :eek: I think that is worse than Shannis and Mofie.

Xx-Vicky-xX

07-04-2006, 14:22

Sonomi?!?! :eek: :eek: I think that is worse than Shannis and Mofie.

Nothing wrong with Shannis but deffinately worse than Mofie

Florijo

07-04-2006, 14:38

Hmm, I just hate all combined couple names. The actual coupling of Sharon and Dennis was ok but I got sick of seeing the 'word' Shannis all the time.

parkerman

07-04-2006, 14:44

Does that make Dot and Jim, Dim?

x Amby x

07-04-2006, 14:46

Does that make Dot and Jim, Dim?

or it could be Jot? lol :searchme: :searchme:

Florijo

07-04-2006, 14:47

Does that make Dot and Jim, Dim?

No, it could make them Jot. And Bradley and Stacey are Bracey. Or it could make them Stadley. :sick: I wonder what that makes Yolande and Patrick?

parkerman

07-04-2006, 14:58

Poland?

(I do wish this message board would allow short replies. It's a real disincentive to short pithy witticisms to have to type at least 30 characters!)

Xx-Vicky-xX

07-04-2006, 15:07

Poland?

(I do wish this message board would allow short replies. It's a real disincentive to short pithy witticisms to have to type at least 30 characters!)

Lol i love it im going to call them that now unless there is a better one

I love Jot for Jim and Dot but Dim made me laugh

parkerman

07-04-2006, 15:25

You could have a few good ones here...

Ian and Jane could be Inane
Honey and Billy could be Hilly or, better still, Boney
Keith and Rosie could be Kosie. (aaah! that's nice)
Pat and Frank could have been Prank
Roy and Pat could have been Rat

That'll do for now...

Xx-Vicky-xX

07-04-2006, 15:35

Pat and Frank could have been Prank

I know people who call the Frat

Richie_lecturer

07-04-2006, 15:56

Michelle and Lofty = Mifty
Al and Sue = Alue
Arthur and Pauline = Arthuline
Ian and Sharon = Iron
Sharon and Zoe = Shoe.....

parkerman

07-04-2006, 16:35

Zoe and Sharon might be better as Zaron (from the planet Graak).

(Mind you I never realised they were a couple. Tell us more, Richie...)

x Amby x

07-04-2006, 19:09

BlackKat

07-04-2006, 20:38

No! Don’t! Resist, Jim, resist.

*Sigh* See, told you. It’s complete crap. We’re now supposed to feel sorry for Sonia because everyone’s being horrible to the poor little lesbians. It’s such a completely forced way to try and turn the issue around. Fact: The problem with Sonia is not that she is now a lesbian. It is the fact that she is now a horrible, horrible person. She cheated on her husband, she lied to her daughter and she runs around expecting everyone to kow-tow to her every whim. She wants to be with Naomi, so the entire world, including Martin, just has to get over it within seconds. She wants to see Rebecca so she’ll just threaten her way in and invade the Fowlers time with her. And now, that’s being ignored because there’s assholes in the pub being horrible to her. Yeah, Sonia and Naomi have every right to kiss in public, the two guys were complete scum and I’d have smacked them probably. But that still doesn’t change the fact that Sonia’s a sanctimonious cow who shouldn’t be forgiven.

On the other hand, I will not say anything horrible about Ruby tonight. You know why? Because she’s a delicate little flower, who shouldn’t be insulted, or subjected to a raised voice. Babies should not cry where she can hear them, because of her delicate ears. She’s a delicate little flower, dammit, and everytime someone insults her a puppy dies. Everyone loves Ruby! She’s the greatest goddamn person in the Universe. She’s a shining beacon of light, hope and love!

x Amby x

07-04-2006, 20:46

i thought that the Deano looking for a model bit was very funny! And Darren was being a typical teenager stirring it up! lol Honey cracked me up as well! Well she always does! I thought Little Mo was being a bit out of order when she says 'Well Freddies actually part of the family' (or something along those lines) in front of Ruby! I thought it was well sweet of Jim to stick up for Sonia (as much as i despise her) And it was sweet that Martin, Mickey, Gus and well everyone was sticking up for Jim! Overall, quite a good episode! x

soapyclean

07-04-2006, 20:49

BlackKat, everything about Sonia I agree whole heartedly with, the writer of tonights episode was on something or was some where else when they wrote this episode.

Bring in some decent writers, Ruby didn't have a problem with Freddy it was Little Mo and her "I don't want any ones help" attitude that needs a smack in the gob :D

Cornishbabe

07-04-2006, 20:50

just wondering how did dot get into a wheel chair?

BlackKat

07-04-2006, 21:14

Forgot to mention: Anyone else seriously disturbed that when Deano says he needs a sexy model for the carlot, Mickey's first though is his own sister?! :sick:

littlemo

07-04-2006, 21:21

just wondering how did dot get into a wheel chair?

Apparently she twisted her ankle, due to something Joe and Bert left lying around?! We didn't actually see it happen, which makes it rather confusing.

I'm glad Bradley and Stacey were in it tonight. Even though we didn't see much of them, they are at least spending time together, which is good! Found Bradley just turning up at the Slaters a bit inappropriate though, after Stacey told him she didn't want Ruby playing gooseberry. She wasn't playing gooseberry because Big Mo and Charlie were there, but I don't think Bradley would have just turned up uninvited. Was there some special reason Bradley needed to appear in the scene?!

Liked the bit when Stacey said to Ruby that she was the number one person in her life, and Bradley said 'Charming'. I found that funny!

I'm glad Sonia and Jim hugged in the end. I am finding Sonia being so self involved annoying but Jim's family he should be on her side. If Martin can be civil, Jim can be.

Feeling sorry for Martin again! It was very wrong for Pauline to walk in on him while he was with a woman. He was very right what he said about it being his house. It was certainly very inappropriate! However it is clear Martin hasn't gotten over Sonia, and him going to bed with somebody else wouldn't have solved matters.

Dot with her telescope! lol. She really is a laugh!

Richie_lecturer

07-04-2006, 21:24

just wondering how did dot get into a wheel chair?
She was knocked backwards by the crap scripts.

Richie_lecturer

07-04-2006, 21:26

Zoe and Sharon might be better as Zaron (from the planet Graak).

(Mind you I never realised they were a couple. Tell us more, Richie...)

I thought you knew, surely the st...

Oh hang on I know why you don't know. Pauline should have spoken out but the revelation is gone into another black hole, never to resurface again. :rolleyes:

Chris_2k11

07-04-2006, 22:32

Well I just watched tonight's episode on BBC3. Aww nice ending :)

alkalinetrio

07-04-2006, 23:17

tonights episode was good and weeeey for jim being the hard man for a.....sec:) i was so hoping for a big bust up! and bad luck for martin so glad i dont have a mum like that!

no1abbafan

07-04-2006, 23:26

Sonia is doing my head in - she is so self-centered its not funny - she can't see what she has done to anybody only thinking of herself. I was sorry they made up in the end, I would have like to see Jim ignore her for a bit longer - this way it makes it all ok for her to walk all over everbody. I hope Margaret finds out and stops her seeing Rebecca - that would teach her to take other peoples feelings into consideration.

Xx-Vicky-xX

08-04-2006, 07:50

I thought it was crap again so i wont be saying much

I liked the stuff with Ruby/Stacey/Charlie that was sweet

Is Jim mad he should have stayed supporting Martin Sonia deserves nothing from no one and i hope Margret says she cant see Becky

Glad Martin is sorting himself out wish Pauline didnt interferre though

soapyclean

08-04-2006, 08:37

I'm glad Pauline said something, because when we're hurting we don't always see what we do is a bad thing. She knows that Martin isn't over Sonia, she made him see he was just hiding his real feelings.

I wish those guys had slapped Naomi instead, much more interesting than hitting an old man :D They are forcing everyone to accept them, when know one really wants to, as Jim said it's a phase she's going through because she couldn't handle the responsibility of her marriage.

Xx-Vicky-xX

08-04-2006, 08:49

I wish those guys had slapped Naomi instead, much more interesting than hitting an old man :D

Totally agree i really dont like her not just because she split Martin and Sonia up...i didnt like her when she came in to it either she was boring and annoying

i_luv_dennis

08-04-2006, 09:45

i think that the naomi and sonia thing is disgusting i hate seeing them kiss

x Amby x

08-04-2006, 10:28

Forgot to mention: Anyone else seriously disturbed that when Deano says he needs a sexy model for the carlot, Mickey's first though is his own sister?! :sick:

well Mickey knew his sister wanted to be a model, so maybe thats why he suggested her? :searchme:

soapyclean

08-04-2006, 12:42

Thats the only reason he did suggest his sister, but darren was a little pratt thinking he can get a car at 15. Can't wait to see his face when Kevin says no :D

It's the whole sonia storyline I can't stand, wish jim had stood his ground for a lot longer though.

Chris_2k11

08-04-2006, 18:52

i think that the naomi and sonia thing is disgusting i hate seeing them kissDo you really have to be such a homophobe?

parkerman

08-04-2006, 19:05

i think that the naomi and sonia thing is disgusting i hate seeing them kiss

This is the problem with how this storyline has gone now. As BlackKat said above, it's not the fact they are lesbians we should object to, it's the way they've trampled over Martin's feelings and everyone else's that are connected with them.

Quite frankly, I'm appalled at your comment, i_luv_dennis, but that's not what this discussion should be about, but the scriptwriters have turned it into a politically correct issue and not one about what two self-serving bitches Naomi and Sonia really are.

Richie_lecturer

08-04-2006, 20:30

littlemo

08-04-2006, 21:31

Yes, it's such a shame that a soap once known for pushing boundaries, has reverted to PC rubbish in recent years.

I remember in the 80s stuff like Lou calling Ali Osman's business "the Paki shop" (apologies if that offends anyone). I can't imagine them even considering this sort of thing nowadays.

Yeah, and I remember Della and Binnie. I'm pretty sure they got some stick in the square. That was a bit of a Sonia/Naomi situation, as Della was going out with Steve, and she went off with Binnie.

God I've got a good memory, I was born in 1985, so I must have been quite young.

Then there was the Simon/Tony relationship which I really liked, they had some real chemistry. It was great! And then there was Tiffany thrown in. That love triangle was the best!

Richie_lecturer

08-04-2006, 22:23

Yeah Della and Binnie were OK, Simon and Tony were a bit dull to be honest.

The one gay storyline that they did really well was Colin Russell and Barry back in 1986/7. I thought that was great, very well portrayed and very well written. I remember Dot used to be very homophobic too in those days. I recall an episode where Colin brushed past her in the Square and she immediately washed her clothes, fearing some kind of disease. Incidentally the guy who played Colin, Michael Cashman, is now an MEP!

Jojo

08-04-2006, 22:31

littlemo

08-04-2006, 23:13

Colin and Barry were great!!! The uproar it caused when Colin kissed Barry on the cheek one morning, before he went to work (how dare you, how very dare you!! :lol: ) Dot nearly had kittens that day when she witnessed it! I think they way they were portrayed back then were great, not like now....

Sonia and Naomi arent caring about anyone elses feelings at all, being totally selfish and to sit like they did in the Vic and basically rub it in everyones faces - but good on Martin and the lads when they stuck up for Jim...

I've seen a few episodes with Colin and Barry in it (on uk gold, was born in 1985). Wasn't Colin a business man?! If I remember correclty his sexuality wasn't obvious at all, and he was actually portrayed as the superior to all of the residents. He was a very intelligent man (quite upper class) and Dot was the one that looked like the fool.

I think Sonia and Naomi should feel some sympathy for Martin, and recognise that he's going through a tough time. It's difficult living so close to each, but I think Sonia does have the right to be in the Vic (it's her local), and with her girlfriend if she chooses. Who has the right to say they should be in a gay bar?! It's like sectioning them off as unsuitable in public company. It's up to them where they want to be.

soapyclean

09-04-2006, 08:20

I think Sonia and Naomi should feel some sympathy for Martin, and recognise that he's going through a tough time. It's difficult living so close to each, but I think Sonia does have the right to be in the Vic (it's her local), and with her girlfriend if she chooses. Who has the right to say they should be in a gay bar?! It's like sectioning them off as unsuitable in public company. It's up to them where they want to be.

Little Mo, we have no objection to Sonia being in the Vic at all. It's her and Naomi's WHOLE attitude to everyone around them, especially Martin making him accept things when he was FAR AWAY from even dealing with things.

That is what we object to, they forced Martin and the square to accept them, forced Pauline to have Sonia at the meeting with Rebecca, and then forced Jim to accept her so called life style when he was 300% right about her whole attitude.

Frankly I can't wait to see the back end of this storyline, they haven't dealt with it like they used to. I preferred the Tiffany, Tony and Simon storyline over this any day.

Jojo

09-04-2006, 11:44

I've seen a few episodes with Colin and Barry in it (on uk gold, was born in 1985). Wasn't Colin a business man?! If I remember correclty his sexuality wasn't obvious at all, and he was actually portrayed as the superior to all of the residents. He was a very intelligent man (quite upper class) and Dot was the one that looked like the fool.

I think Sonia and Naomi should feel some sympathy for Martin, and recognise that he's going through a tough time. It's difficult living so close to each, but I think Sonia does have the right to be in the Vic (it's her local), and with her girlfriend if she chooses. Who has the right to say they should be in a gay bar?! It's like sectioning them off as unsuitable in public company. It's up to them where they want to be.Sonia has every right to be in the Vic, but knowing that Martin and Jim were in there, to sit snogging Naomi in the corner, wasn't being very thoughtful and in my mind, selfish...they can have a drink just like anyone else, but at this early stage of her marriage break up, really shouldn't be shoving it in Martins face imo

littlemo

09-04-2006, 15:43

Sonia has every right to be in the Vic, but knowing that Martin and Jim were in there, to sit snogging Naomi in the corner, wasn't being very thoughtful and in my mind, selfish...they can have a drink just like anyone else, but at this early stage of her marriage break up, really shouldn't be shoving it in Martins face imo

O.k. I think your right, Sonia should be more understanding of Martin's feelings.

Dutchgirl

09-04-2006, 19:59

Well Jim acted accordingly to his age. A lot of older peolple think that being gay is a sickness which can be cured. He'll come around their love is always stronger than the anger they feel, maybe it will take a while.
Pauline should mind her own bussiness if Martin want's a one night stand he should be able, without her meddling. Not under my roof, pff she's got some nerve.

JustJodi

09-04-2006, 21:29

littlemo

09-04-2006, 21:47

The house was also Martin and Sonia's too wasn't it ??? or did something change ????

Yeah it is Martin and Sonia's, that's what he said.

Although I think at some point Pauline will take it back, because Martin wouldn't be able to afford the mortgage payments on his own, and Sonia doesn't want to make them.

di marco

10-04-2006, 15:19

No! Don’t! Resist, Jim, resist.

*Sigh* See, told you. It’s complete crap. We’re now supposed to feel sorry for Sonia because everyone’s being horrible to the poor little lesbians. It’s such a completely forced way to try and turn the issue around. Fact: The problem with Sonia is not that she is now a lesbian. It’s is the fact that she is now a horrible, horrible person. She cheated on her husband, she lied to her daughter and she runs around expecting everyone to kow-tow to her every whim. She wants to be with Naomi, so the entire world, including Martin, just has to get over it within seconds. She wants to see Rebecca so she’ll just threaten her way in and invade the Fowlers time with her. And now, that’s being ignored because there’s assholes in the pub being horrible to her. Yeah, Sonia and Naomi have every right to kiss in public, the two guys were complete scum and I’d have smacked them probably. But that still doesn’t change the fact that Sonia’s a sanctimonious cow who shouldn’t be forgiven.

On the other hand, I will not say anything horrible about Ruby tonight. You know why? Because she’s a delicate little flower, who shouldn’t be insulted, or subjected to a raised voice. Babies should not cry where she can hear them, because of her delicate ears. She’s a delicate little flower, dammit, and everytime someone insults her a puppy dies. Everyone loves Ruby! She’s the greatest goddamn person in the Universe. She’s a shining beacon of light, hope and love!

lol that made me laugh! :D

Forgot to mention: Anyone else seriously disturbed that when Deano says he needs a sexy model for the carlot, Mickey's first though is his own sister?! :sick:

i thought that as well, i think he probably just thought of dawn cos she wants to be a model, but cos deano said he wanted a "sexy model" i thought it sounded a bit sick when mickey immediately suggested dawn

Dutchgirl

10-04-2006, 18:47

The house was also Martin and Sonia's too wasn't it ??? or did something change ????
It is they let Pauline live there as a courtisy.

Cornishbabe

10-04-2006, 20:30

I think everyone has had a pesonality transplant.

I felt sorry for phil tonight when ben handed back the mobile phone.

*-Rooney-*

10-04-2006, 21:07

yeah the house is sonmia and martins but try telling pauline that.

i enjoyed the ian/ben/phil scene but i really wish for once everything didnt go well for ian now ben is on his side

the deano/darren story was good kevin tricked them well and proper

what the heck has happened to the happy little mo we used to know now she has turned into a naurotic mother who has even started shouting at her own family

where is jake plannning on getting 500 a month to give to charlie, because i doubt he has been in contact with johnny like he is saying

BlackKat

10-04-2006, 21:19

where is jake plannning on getting 500 a month to give to charlie, because i doubt he has been in contact with johnny like he is saying

It's his own money. Pat gave him a grand in wages last Thursday.

littlemo

10-04-2006, 21:21

I felt sorry for phil tonight when ben handed back the mobile phone.

Yeah I felt sorry for him too. The Mitchells are good characters, you can hate them one minute and have sympathy for them the next. Ian was out of order! He was right about Phil and the act, but Ian can be a real idiot at times. He's like a little kid! I can't think that Ben would want nothing to do with Phil for the rest of his life. Living in such proximity to your dad and not seeing him would feel like torture to most people. Ben just needs to get used to his life in Walford.

Poor Ben! He doesn't know whether he's coming or going does he?!

Feel sorry for Jake! He's trying to get his life together but it's just not working is it?! I think if he was able to explain to Ruby what Danny did, and the circumstances surrounding his death, she might feel differently. I suppose it's still murder, but it's not like what Johnny's done!

I also feel Stacey needs to wait for Ruby to explain what happened in Essex. I can understand being concerned for her friend, but you can't go accusing people without knowing the facts. That being said Jake shouldn't have grabbed her the way he did! Completely out of order!

chance

10-04-2006, 21:22

Where was the phone charger,thats what i want to know...

littlemo

10-04-2006, 21:23

Where was the phone charger,thats what i want to know...

Bens?! Maybe it was one with a built in battery?

*-Rooney-*

10-04-2006, 21:34

It's his own money. Pat gave him a grand in wages last Thursday.

yeah but i mean all the other months ahead is jake going to do a good thing by giving charlie 500 a month for ruby to try and compensate for what happened in essex does he think that will make him feel better

10-04-2006, 21:37

yeah but i mean all the other months ahead is jake going to do a good thing by giving charlie 500 a month for ruby to try and compensate for what happened in essex does he think that will make him feel better

I dont think that will ease hi pain to be honest, i thinkhe will struggle to get over it. Bless I felt so sorry for him today

Dutchgirl

10-04-2006, 21:58

I do not like bully Phil, but Ian is out of control, he cannot prevent Ben from seeing his father.

Johnny Allen

10-04-2006, 22:14

I do not like bully Phil, but Ian is out of control, he cannot prevent Ben from seeing his father.

exactly, Ian's digging himself into a massive fight, A good episode, that whole Grant with the bread thing and Phil punching it was genius.

chance

10-04-2006, 22:25

Deano and Darren,what was that all about??

Chris_2k11

10-04-2006, 22:38

Deano and Darren,what was that all about??I fell asleep at that point. :nono:

littlemo

10-04-2006, 22:50

Deano and Darren,what was that all about??

Tonight's bits with Deano and Darren were a bit annoying actually. The whole thing went on for too long! That bit where they fighting in the kitchen made me giggle a bit though. Deano said 'is this what my life has come too?' fighting with a 15 year old kid. What an idiot?! lol.

Basically what happened was Darren came up with the name 'Getaway cars' so he thought he was going to get a car (which Kevin had promised). But Kevin said that it wasn't over yet, and allowed Deano to try and get the car by coming up with this big promotion idea (see whether he could pull it off).

Deano then went back to Dawn to try and get her back on side. But of course Deano blew it with a daft comment. So he ended up having to pay Big Mo to be a model, and he came up with some stupid idea about a parrot?! Why I don't know?! But actually that was quite amusing when Darren was looking at him through the window! lol.

Kevin went back on his deal and said that he just told them to choose a car, he wasn't going to buy them one. It was very silly!

big bro fan

10-04-2006, 22:56

I would have been well annoyed if i was Deano. Darren get's on my nerves a bit.

*-Rooney-*

10-04-2006, 23:03

technically kevin didnt go back on his word he did only say he would let them choose a car they just assumed that meant kevin would buy him one

Richie_lecturer

10-04-2006, 23:03

Only saw the last 10-15 mins, and that was only because there was no hot water to run a bath.

What I saw was OK, probably only because Phelps wrote it. Adam Woodyatt was great but the rest seemed poor.

Deano/Darren/Kevin stuff is awful.
Lil Mo stuff was annoying.

That's it really. I'm not watching tomorrow night though, or for the foreseeable future. That can be guaranteed. :nono:

*-Rooney-*

10-04-2006, 23:05

dot was quite nuts today she spent the whole episode sitting at the window trying tofind out evidence against joe and bert, shame everyone just thinks shes an old woman exageratting about the smallest thing because this time she is spot on about them

big bro fan

10-04-2006, 23:09

i think Dot's funny. A truely fantastic character. Wonder if Dot will take it well when she find's out Joe and his mate are'nt crooks. Well they were but not know.

*-Rooney-*

10-04-2006, 23:13

itll be funny when joe gets arrested for burgling dot and jims house when he was just trying to return a dvd he thought bert stole from them

Johnny Allen

11-04-2006, 09:07

Dot is such a great character and so realistic, I know plenty of older people who sit at there window being nosy, they have it spot on, besides the humour between Dot and Jim is priceless.

soapyclean

11-04-2006, 09:09

I wandered what Grant was doing with the bread, then when he said it was Ians' head I laughed. What a great way to get your anger out, while not hurting your chances with your son. Loved it when Ben told the twins he didn't want another father, he should've told Jane that.

HATED Ian and his petty one upmanship, what he doesn't realise it's not because he prefers Ian. Ben doesn't see Phil as his dad, thats the only reason he gave the phone back, Phil had put Dad's mobile instead of just Phils mobile.

Loved Jane ripping Ian a good one, I feel for her cos she done all the hard work with Grant to get Phil to calm down. I bet she feels that Phil would show her how to flush Ian's head down the toilet, so she can do it to him :D

Hated the Deano/Darren storyline, glad it's over now. Little mo has gone weird on us, thinking no one trusts her with Freddie, can't blame them with her whole attitude.

Stacey should keep her mouth shut until Ruby has told her what's going on, accusing Jake of doing something to her is out of order. I'd rather Jake tell her where to go permanently, seeing the Mitchells is devastating for him. It cost him his brother, but it wasn't their fault he didn't know how to shoot someone in the leg or arm, but to choose between them would've been hard.

Richie you want to see Jane smack Ian around :D

parkerman

11-04-2006, 09:48

Yes, I thought the Ian/Phil/Ben/Jane bits were quite good last night.

But that rubbish with Deano/Darren/models/the parrot etc. was just awful. I still can't get past the fact that Darren is only 15; what on Earth would he do with a car?

The stuff with Joe and Bert is also getting on my nerves. How long can they hang this story line out?

I was getting a bit annoyed about Little Mo as well, but then I thought, well, actually, that's because Kacey Ainsworth is playing the part so well. I think she is doing a good job.

As for Ruby....aaarrrggghhh!!!

soapyclean

11-04-2006, 09:51

Parkerman, Dot finds hard proof that Joe and Bert were in prison, then bert knocks her off and in his dispear Joe calls the police and both get carted off :D

Hows that for wrapping it up??

Its as bad as the sonia/naomi storyline that I wish to god would finish SOON :D

parkerman

11-04-2006, 10:11

Yes, good thinking, soapyclean. Just one littler amendment to your story line though...

Bert tries to knocks Dot off, but Winston sees him and intervenes. He knocks out Bert and then exposes Joe as the villain he is. He becomes a hero and asks Tracey to marry him. She says yes and they have a big Albert Square wedding, with the drinks on Peggy.

Siobhan

11-04-2006, 10:46

[QUOTE=soapyclean

Its as bad as the sonia/naomi storyline that I wish to god would finish SOON :D[/QUOTE]

Sonia/naomi storyline is finished.. they are together now so storyline over

soapyclean

11-04-2006, 11:13

See Parkerman you can do a good story line :D So build on it and send it in

siobhan it's not finished they are still together pushing everyone to accept what she's done, which no one should because she hasn't given her marriage a chance.

parkerman

11-04-2006, 11:28

See Parkerman you can do a good story line
I know I can! I'm a writer!!! I'm just about to have my 18th book published.

Siobhan

11-04-2006, 12:57

What I saw was OK, probably only because Phelps wrote it. Adam Woodyatt was great but the rest seemed poor.

Deano/Darren/Kevin stuff is awful.
Lil Mo stuff was annoying.

Have to agree with you. Adam did a blinding job last night. It is about time he stood up to Phil and I am glad he didn't back down... :cheer:

Little Mo is to obsessed with Freddie, she has to learn to let go or she will crack up totally... Deano/darren/Kev stuff awful and so predicatable. :thumbsdow

Dot doing the whole "rear window" thing is genius.. Herself and Jim are a fantastic couple and bouce of each other so well :clap::clap::clap:

tammyy2j

11-04-2006, 14:18

I felt sorry for Phil last night. I really hopes things work out for him with Ben. You can see why Grant and Jane will get together, Ian is so unappreciative and horrible to her.

Jake looked gorgeous last night. We finally got to see the bookies opened last night again.

soapyclean

11-04-2006, 14:51

The bookies was open a night or two ago, pat opened it up again. She'd gone around to see where Jake was, to find him with the shakes.

*-Rooney-*

11-04-2006, 14:58

what i dont understand is the bookies has been shut for a while so how did jake get a grand for his work

Siobhan

11-04-2006, 14:59

what i dont understand is the bookies has been shut for a while so how did jake get a grand for his work

it hasn't been shut.. just for the days that Jake was in his house going mad.. we just never saw it open.. Where do you think pat works all day???? she is not at the car lot anymore

*-Rooney-*

11-04-2006, 15:01

i suppose but jake was lying in his house for a week after the shooting and obviously he was off for a week before that because he was in essex so he must be on brill money

parkerman

11-04-2006, 15:02

Perhaps Pat is a model employer and pays good sick pay?

Siobhan

11-04-2006, 15:15

i suppose but jake was lying in his house for a week after the shooting and obviously he was off for a week before that because he was in essex so he must be on brill money

he was only in Essex for a night not a week...

x Amby x

11-04-2006, 15:20

Am i the only one who thought the Deano/Darren stuff was quite funny? I thought the Ben and Phil bit was really sweet! Can't wait until Jane and Grant get together lol!

shannisrules

11-04-2006, 15:23

Am i the only one who thought the Deano/Darren stuff was quite funny?
i liked it! although it did show quite a lot of it if they had only shown a little bit of it rather than 10 minutes then it would have been better i think.

parkerman

11-04-2006, 15:26

Am i the only one who thought the Deano/Darren stuff was quite funny?

I don't suppose you are, but personally I thought it was excruciatingly awful! :wall:

Florijo

11-04-2006, 15:48

Watching the Deano/Darren stuff was like having hot needles in my eyes, it was that painful.

I'd like Deano to get hit by a big bus, followed by a lorry and then another big bus. I have a sadistic hatred of the guy. :mad:

Xx-Vicky-xX

11-04-2006, 16:05

Fab episode loads of Ben which is what i like to see and like how sweet was he :wub: dont you just want to take him home and protect him :wub:

When Ben is in an episode for as long as he was i dont really think about the rest of it so i wont comment i dont think because there isnt a lot to say

Petal

11-04-2006, 16:53

Ben is brilliant!! I just hope he's not caught between Phil & Ian's feud for too long.

leanne27

11-04-2006, 16:56

i felt so sorry for Phill, Ian is acting pure evil he's loving every minute of Phill wanting to get to know Ben and not being able to, he has his own children he should let Phll at least get to know his.

Dutchgirl

11-04-2006, 17:09

HATED Ian and his petty one upmanship, what he doesn't realise it's not because he prefers Ian. Ben doesn't see Phil as his dad, thats the only reason he gave the phone back, Phil had put Dad's mobile instead of just Phils mobile.

You are so right I thought exactly the same. He will warm to Phil, if he can call him Phil instead of Dad. When Ian realizes this he will not be laughing as hard as he does now.:rolleyes:

Jessie Wallace

11-04-2006, 17:26

I hate to say it, but i actually felt sorry for Phil, having just watched last nihgt episode. Ian i'd love to punch, but then i've never really liked his character,(But Jane does make him more watchable)
Can't wait for Jane's storyline, should be good.
And i'm not finding Ruby as annoying now that she's back either :searchme:

soapyclean

11-04-2006, 17:38

Phil nailed it on the head, Ian is grieving for his mother still and can't see past the end of his nose. Ben might have given Phil his phone back, but doesn't meant to say when he grows up he'll feel the same way.

Florijo

11-04-2006, 20:02

I'm not sure who has lost the plot more, Jake or Ruby. :ninja:

Getting sick of this Phil/Ian/Ben stuff now.

Dutchgirl

11-04-2006, 20:02

OMG Joel Beckett is so good! He is totally beleivable as a troubled soul. Louisa Lytton gave a convincing performance as well, kudos to her!
Ian lighten up please, but also a good performance by Adam Woodyatt.

littlemo

11-04-2006, 20:22

I'm not sure who has lost the plot more, Jake or Ruby. :ninja:

I know Ruby with a knife?! A very good performance.

Why does Jake feel the need to grab people?! Stacey yesterday, Ruby tonight. It's just not on. He's getting way too close! Seriously obsessive!

Nice little chat between Phil and Ben, I thought that was nice.

x Amby x

11-04-2006, 21:04

Great performance from Joel Beckett tonight, it was really believable! Same with Louisa Lytton! Awwwww how sweet was the Ben and Phil stuff, i thought it was really good! Its good that their finally bonding! Courtney was alright, she was being her typical selfish self! Shes a right little Daddy's girl!

Florijo

11-04-2006, 21:11

Dutchgirl

11-04-2006, 21:15

I did not mind Jake grabbing and getting too close to Juley though, I loved that. *Die, Juley, die* :D

Why did Jake not tell Ruby (I don't recall him telling her) that he killed Danny to save the lives of two other people? It is not as if he just decided to shoot Danny for no reason, is it?
Maybe she doesn't want to hear it. It would make it to difficult wouldn't you think. People who kill other people are the same as her father, if it has a different reason it means she has to deal with it. Am I making sense?:searchme:

Florijo

11-04-2006, 21:24

Maybe she doesn't want to hear it. It would make it to difficult wouldn't you think. People who kill other people are the same as her father, if it has a different reason it means she has to deal with it. Am I making sense?:searchme:

Yes, I get what you are saying.

I never really liked Jake, but I do feel sorry for him. I guess he knows exactly what it was like for Chrissie now, seeing as he is now a murderer as well. It is funny in a way, one murderer leaves (Johnny) and another character (Jake) becomes a murderer to take his place. The quota of murderers in Walford must be replenished with a new murderer when one leaves.

*-Rooney-*

11-04-2006, 21:47

shes bound to be a daddys girlbecause after tiff died it was just the 2 of them for a while

11-04-2006, 22:08

Maybe she doesn't want to hear it. It would make it to difficult wouldn't you think. People who kill other people are the same as her father, if it has a different reason it means she has to deal with it. Am I making sense?:searchme:

Yeah I understand what you mean. it would be the same if jake told her about what happend when danny drugged her, send her even more loopy with people she cant trust

chance

11-04-2006, 22:12

I hate to say it about a kid but how naff is that ben and his acting,the boy is driving me mad!! :angry:

Also little mo and the constant shaking of her mullet head everytime she speaks!! :angry:

Oh and ruby and her stupid staring!! :angry:

Get rid of all three and il be happy :)

littlemo

11-04-2006, 22:13

I liked seeing all the Mitchells sitting in the living room together. It reminded me of old times! Grant sitting there with Courteney and Phil with Ben, it's great! I wonder how Courteney and Ben will get on?! She might be a bit too much for Ben right now, but they are cousins, it'll be nice to see them together.

11-04-2006, 22:15

Johnny Allen

11-04-2006, 22:41

Courtney cracks me up she reminds me of me at that age!

Good grief is she funny, Grant and her reminded me so much of a father/daughter relationship. Very good episode, the Phil and Ben stuff was good, fed up with Ruby though, shame Jake didn't throttle her.

leanne27

11-04-2006, 23:00

Ruby wasa bit unfair to Jake i thought, she doesn't have any idea what happened there how does she know that the shot went off by accident? i wish she'd just dissapear again, i used to like her character but the way she treated Stacey so badly for no reason showed her true colours i really don't like her now, seeing Ben and Phill was really cute :) Ian should stop interfering he was never even a good son to Kathy so i dont know why he is trying to be now

Xx-Vicky-xX

12-04-2006, 07:16

Ben was fab it was nice to see him with Phil and until Phil mentioned Gavin i thought he was really enjoying himself and connecting with Phil.I loved the episode because there as so much Ben which is what i like to see he is by far one of the only decent people in it at the moment.

Why is Ruby being mean to Stacey even though all she is trying to do is help if i was Stacey by now i would have walked away from her and gone off to spend some time with Bradley, Ruby doesnt deserve Stacey the way she is being with her, okay i know shes been through alot but if she told Stacey its not like she is going to go and tell everyone.Ruby needs to sort herself out.

soapyclean

12-04-2006, 08:19

Loved Peggy going and sorting Ian out, he should've remembered what Phil and Grant did for him when Cindy took his kids. Also as someone else said he didn't treat Kathy well either, in fact he only wanted to know when he wanted something.

Loved the Ben/Phil moment, about time someone spoke of Kathy and Gavin to Ben. I hope that happens alot more, because the kid needs to deal with what happened not hide away like Ian wants him to.

Ian should flamin well lighten up, it's not down to him. So what if Ben came back silent, it didn't mean he didn't have a good time. Good for Jane walking out on him.

LOVED Jake beating Juley, loved Grant and Phil even more though trying to get Jake to calm down and Juley to drop the charges. Can't wait to find out what they do next :D

Who wrote last nights epi, apart from Ruby being a bitch it was a great epi :D

Poor Little Mo, always taking things the wrong way. The doc was only trying to help, but she sees everything as interfering.

JustJodi

12-04-2006, 08:30

Wait a min gang, did any of you miss the scene in the Slatter kitchen, Ruby and Jake ??? the knife?? Ruby telling him she knew he killed Danny, I thought that was pretty interesting to see a 17 yr old kid make a 30+ yr old cringe. I honestly think Ruby should UNLOAD on Stacey, rather than saying shes OK or shes Just Fine or LEAVE ME ALONE !!

Loved the moment that Phil spent with Ben, even tho they just had the TV on..Did we see a SOFTER side of Phil?? I hope we have more moments like that. Grant is hilarous,, i love watching him and dragging his mom off,,when she gets nosey "need a glass??" when she was listening on the other side of the door,,

Ian will always be a muppet, and has any one noticed he has been looking really haggard ??? No wonder he can't keep a woman with his constant negative attitude, if Jane does leave him in a lurch he deserves it, hes a real SOB !!!

I loved it also when Jake beat the snot outta Juley !!! I thought we got rid of old Juley, how come hes still hanging around ???

Another thing I noticed, did old Bert have his scruffy beard trimmed ?? LOL

Florijo

12-04-2006, 09:07

LOVED Jake beating Juley

:D :D :cheer: :lol: That was my favourite bit of the whole episode. Juley has not been seen for ages (there is a god), then the first time we see him, he gets a beating. Heeheehee hahahahahahaha :bow: :thumbsup:

Who wrote last nights epi

Someone called Emma Goodwin.

parkerman

12-04-2006, 09:21

I can't believe people on here actually think it's good for Jake to beat up Juley for no reason. OK you might not like Juley but is that any reason to beat the c*** out of him? We can't all just go round beating up people we don't like.

As for Ruby I thought she completely spoiled the scene between her and Jake by her wooden acting (again!). It could have been good. For once it wasn't the writing, it was the acting.

I know he's had one of the complete Eastenders makeovers and is now a completely different character but I have to say I quite like the new Grant.

Lizzie Brookes

12-04-2006, 09:27

Yeah the new Grants great. I think he and Phil have swapped personalities.

I can't help feeling sorry for Jake. It was really unfair beause he was only trying to help Ruby. You are not allowed to wake a sleepwalker but unfortunatelywhen she came to she saw him standing over her and assumed he was about to attackher or something.

Jake seems really isolatednow though and its a shame. I don't think he's like Johnny. I was so sorry for him when he begged Ruby not to say he's like Johnny. True he shouldn't have beaten Juleyup but i think he's losing it like Alfie lost it once. I hope he doesn't do anything stupid.

Siobhan

12-04-2006, 09:34

Ok.. was freaky out by Jake last night.. he turned into Danny as far as ruby is concerned.. he seemed over the top with her last night. She obviously doesn't know the full story, she just knows Jake killed Danny and she likes danny.. If she knew what really happen with Danny drugging her, going to kill the Mitchells and that it was an accident then maybe she wouldn't be so freaky out with Jake

Loved the scene with Phil and Grant telling Juley that this is the end of it and Juley going on and on until he saw them look at him... Ben with phil was sweet and Ian is way over protective. Just because ben didn't talk when he got home didn't mean that Phil did anything wrong, poor little guy was upset talking about his dad.

All in all, it was a good episode, better than monday nights

Florijo

12-04-2006, 09:42

I can't believe people on here actually think it's good for Jake to beat up Juley for no reason. OK you might not like Juley but is that any reason to beat the c*** out of him? We can't all just go round beating up people we don't like.

You are right. :o I let my hatred of Juley cloud my judgement. Of course, he did not deserve to be beaten up.

Johnny Allen

12-04-2006, 09:59

Yeah the new Grants great. I think he and Phil have swapped personalities.

Yeah I think they have although it's nice to see a softer side to Grant. Although he hasn't changed that much he did shout at Jake.

DaVeyWaVey

12-04-2006, 12:16

A good episode last night. I thought Jake and Ruby's performances were great and i think they were the stars of last night. I know some people criticise Jake and Ruby's acting but last night, i thought they did extremely well. We also got to see Dr Oliver for the first time in ages :D I think Ian is being really selfish not allowing Phil to see Ben and i thought Ben and Phil bonded really well last night. I have started to feel sorry for Phil as he just wants to build up a relationship with Ben but Ian won't let him. I also feel sorry for Jane as she is stuck in the middle and wants to make everybody happy.

Xx-Vicky-xX

12-04-2006, 13:21

LOVED Jake beating Juley, loved Grant and Phil even more though trying to get Jake to calm down and Juley to drop the charges. Can't wait to find out what they do next :D

Totally forgot about that, it was fab when Phil and Grant said Juley WILL forget about Jake, i love them two so glad they are back together and that Eastenders finally got Ross to return.

*-Rooney-*

12-04-2006, 15:31

i really enjoyed last nights episode

the phil/ben stuff was sweet

jake and ruby are equally losing the plot.
what does jake expect from her though because everytime ruby turns hes there and hes bordering on obsession

the ruby/stacy stuff was good because it shows how strong there friendship is

ruby and the knife i thought she was gonna do it and stab him. good acting from ruby and jake

12-04-2006, 16:25

Totally forgot about that, it was fab when Phil and Grant said Juley WILL forget about Jake, i love them two so glad they are back together and that Eastenders finally got Ross to return.

I agree I only wish that Grant was staying permanent!

soapyclean

12-04-2006, 18:14

Juley shouldn't have been beaten up, but Jake snapped he thought he was harrassing her again. Lovin the new Grunt, shame he's not staying longer. Wish he was but oh dear never mind, loved the writer for this epi alot better than most of them we have.

Phelps is a great writer too, I can't think of the other one I like.

*-Rooney-*

12-04-2006, 18:36

how long is grant staying i thought it was for a while at least because he was talking about schools for courtney

Johnny Allen

12-04-2006, 18:58

I think he's staying for a few months, I sure hope so I really enjoy the Mitchell boys on the square.

DaVeyWaVey

12-04-2006, 22:47

Yeah it's great to see the Mitchell Brothers back together. It's good that they are just not going round being violent/beating people up etc, it's good that we are seeing different sides to them especially Phil who really wants to bond with his son :)

Keating's babe

13-04-2006, 11:37

I'm feeling so sorry for Jake at the moment. I'm not condoning murder or owt like that - but he didn't set out to kill him. Not like Danny killing Dennis.

I'm loving the chemistry between Grant and Jane. You can see it simmering away and just know it's going to be good. :D

*-Rooney-*

13-04-2006, 11:45

yeah im feeling sorry for jake too but also excited about what hes gonna do next.

as for jane and grant wouldnt you rather be with the new sensitive grant than the snivelling weasel ian

BlackKat

13-04-2006, 11:49

I don't see that much chemistry with Jane and Grant to be honest. (Then again I don't see any with Jane and Ian). It feels they are trying too hard to make the chemistry be there, when it should be more natural. They did have chemistry in that small flirting scene back in October, which is apparently where this has all come from. But I haven't seen any since.

Babe14

13-04-2006, 13:02

I can't help thinking that Grant's flirtation with Jane has an ulterior motive like he is using Jane to get to Ian inorder to get Ben for Phil.

Tuesday's epi was brilliant and Joel Beckett was even more amazing. Poor Jake he really is losing it. I even liked Phil last night I guess it's having Grant around that is bringing about maybe a change in him. Still I will never forgive him for the Johnny feud and the lives he has destroyed. I love the new Grant much better I didn't really take to him before he got on my nerves the way he kept on going psycho all the time. I love his witty comments and always have they just flow nicely.

Some very powerful, heart touching/breaking and emotional scenes Tuesday.

I'm glad that Juley got beaten up by Jake, he's had this coming for a long time. In defense of Jake, Juley just happened to be hassling Ruby at the wrong time, Jake had just heard Ian confiding in Pat about his brother and this was so him and Danny, it all became too much for him and pushed him right over the edge.

I'm loving Eastenders at the moment and the reason for this is because it is my "Viewing" time:)

Keating's babe

13-04-2006, 13:30

as for jane and grant wouldnt you rather be with the new sensitive grant than the snivelling weasel ian

Grant would win - no contest. :D

parkerman

13-04-2006, 15:05

II'm glad that Juley got beaten up by Jake, he's had this coming for a long time.
Why?

(Oh dear, I have to fill my quota of 30 characters...)

*-Rooney-*

13-04-2006, 15:56

i dont understand it either, sure he did do wrong by ruby at the start but he did genuinely fall in love with her and he was only showing concern to her the other day right before he got beat up

leanne27

13-04-2006, 20:01

I really liked today's episode but what i dont get is what DID make Ben go all quiet - he and Phill bonded the other day so why the sudden change?

Florijo

13-04-2006, 20:53

I feel sorry for Ben, the poor kid has Phil for a dad, Peggy for a grandmother and Ian for a half-brother. I would run far, far away if I was him.

x Amby x

13-04-2006, 21:37

leanne27

13-04-2006, 22:51

I loved tonights episode! I thought it was really sweet when Ben packed his little rucksack and put all his comics in :wub: I wish Ian would just grow up! I mean Ben's more mature than him! The bit with Jake was done well too!

totally agree :) Grant's little comment of "is this season 2?" was well timed lol i LOVE the mitchells being back Phill and Grant work so well together i dont want them to leave again Walford's not the same without them :(

littlemo

14-04-2006, 00:01

totally agree :) Grant's little comment of "is this season 2?" was well timed lol i LOVE the mitchells being back Phill and Grant work so well together i dont want them to leave again Walford's not the same without them :(

Yeah I know. Out of curiosity do you know what series Grant was talking about?! It was really funny when Phil said to Grant, 'I think I should take it from here'.

In the kitchen then they were talking about biscuits. Nice.