Current Episode Discussion V

[alan45]

we had a true Eastenders style cliffhanger with the police turning up.

And a very stupid cliffhanger as well. The entire fallout of Pauline's death, and the funeral itself has been absolutely pathetic. No way would what happened last night happen in real life, re. the police turning up, no proper post-mortem. Awful.

Quite true Richie. Appalling that no-one bothered to research this story properly.

Who decided it was a Brain Hemorage. What caused the Brain Hemorage

Fact - The funeral could NOT have taken place without a death certificate being issued or permission from the coroner.

Fact - In the event of a sudden or unexpected death such as Pauline's there would almost certainly have been a post mortem carried out.

Interesting point - Walford Council must be the only council in the UK to permit funerals on New Years Day

I think the Metopolitan Police would have handled matters better than that.

All that said I think Sarah Phelps mad the best of the poor storyline

I thought the writers would have learnt their lessons from the poor way in which Barry's death was handled:rolleyes:

Obviously the law does not apply in EE Land

[CrazyLea]

Fact - In the event of a sudden or unexpected death such as Pauline's there would almost certainly have been a post mortem carried out
Considering your point there. Was there not a post mortem then? Cause how are the police going to arrest someone for her death, if there's no evidence or anything to say "so and so caused/killed her"?
Also, if it's true that Sonia didn't cause the death, that someone poisoned her, again how are they gonna prove that is the case?
Am I making sense :lol: Makes more sense in my head, than written down!

[?????]

overall a good episode. LMAO @ Mo. Also Keith was great when Dot fainted "Look,there goes another one" hahahah!

cant believe how badly obvious sonia is making it she is guilty! it was obivious martin wasn't talkin about sonia at the end. and my god how bad of an actress is carly!:rotfl:

[alan45]

Fact - In the event of a sudden or unexpected death such as Pauline's there would almost certainly have been a post mortem carried out
Considering your point there. Was there not a post mortem then? Cause how are the police going to arrest someone for her death, if there's no evidence or anything to say "so and so caused/killed her"?
Also, if it's true that Sonia didn't cause the death, that someone poisoned her, again how are they gonna prove that is the case?
Am I making sense :lol: Makes more sense in my head, than written down!Had a post mortem been carried out then the cause of death would have been established. If it was a suspicious death then further enquiries would have been made and an inquest held. Blood tests would also have been carried out as well and these would have established if Pauline had been poisoned

[*-Rooney-*]

my god how bad of an actress is carly!:rotfl:

i actually thought carly acted her scenes with kevin and shirley really well

[Katy]

I didnt think it was too bad either. but i think everyones good as i cant act myself so all actresses are amazing in my eyes.

[Nigella harman]

my god how bad of an actress is carly!:rotfl:

i actually thought carly acted her scenes with kevin and shirley really well
I thought she was really good too.:searchme:

[Richie_lecturer]

All that said I think Sarah Phelps mad the best of the poor storyline


Yep it was well written, but once again the EE sciptwriters who seem to live on another planet, made sure Pauline's exit and funeral was a complete sham.

As usual it's upto the old-school writers to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear

[parkerman]

Hello again everyone...

I was away on holiday over Christmas and the New Year but I did record the episodes on Sky+ and have just caught up with both the episodes and the discussion on here. Probably to nobody's surprise, I tend to agree with Richie and Alan. I think they should have got in the scriptwriters from The Bill to handle the last couple of episodes, they might have been a bit more realistic then!

Actually I have to say I thought Kellie Shirley (Carly) did really well as did Linda Henry (Shirley). I am not impressed with the Max and Stacey storyline:sick: Why would Tanya tell Max to go and see Stacey home? She looked ok and, in any case, only lives over the Square.

For me the overall cheesiest and absolutely the worst moment over the festive period was the snow on Christmas Day. How obvious and cliched was that? It shows a complete vacuity of ideas and completely spoilt the whole episode in my opinion.

[Siobhan]

For me the overall cheesiest and absolutely the worst moment over the festive period was the snow on Christmas Day. How obvious and cliched was that? It shows a complete vacuity of ideas and completely spoilt the whole episode in my opinion.

yeah that was a bit cheesy... one minute is was alright and then it started snowing just as Pauline was dying...

[alan45]

For me the overall cheesiest and absolutely the worst moment over the festive period was the snow on Christmas Day. How obvious and cliched was that? It shows a complete vacuity of ideas and completely spoilt the whole episode in my opinion.But hey!!!!! it worked with Alfie and Kat so lets repeat it ad infinitum

[Siobhan]

For me the overall cheesiest and absolutely the worst moment over the festive period was the snow on Christmas Day. How obvious and cliched was that? It shows a complete vacuity of ideas and completely spoilt the whole episode in my opinion.But hey!!!!! it worked with Alfie and Kat so lets repeat it ad infinitum

Yeah but with Kat and Alfie, he hired a snow machine.. it wasn't as cheesy as this time

[Katy]

And also with Kat and Alfie, there was no trying to make it look like it was actually snowing.

[littlemo]

Tonight's episode was quite good! Martin has gone demented!

Really they are making too much of this Sonia thing. It's nonsense that she would be responisble. It was a slap, for crying out loud! Sonia - 'It was me!' lol.

I reckon when Sonia explains it to the police, they will be saying 'And then what?!'. And she'll be like, well then nothing. I went back to the Vic, and found her dead half an hour later.

I think they should have made it that Pauline was found dead in the house. It would have been more believable, I think.

[Chris_2k11]

I'm really enjoying it this week, it's been really good. Plus most of the plots seem to be moving along more quickly which makes it even better. Only thing bringing it down is the whole Max/Stacey affair :sick: I still find it out of character for Stacey.

[littlemo]

I'm really enjoying it this week, it's been really good. Plus most of the plots seem to be moving along more quickly which makes it even better. Only thing bringing it down is the whole Max/Stacey affair :sick: I still find it out of character for Stacey.

Yeah. It's been good! Stacey and Max aren't great at the moment, but there'll be good stuff to come! :)

[Katy]

Its too depressing, i cant handle it, theres to much crying. I had to turn it over half way through, watched channel M instead.

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Sonia - 'It was me!' lol.
That bit was the best!! :lol: I was laughing out loud.. Very over exaggerated!!:rotfl:

[Siobhan]

Sonia - 'It was me!' lol.




:rotfl::rotfl: did you notice that martin didn't stop choking Joe when she said it first??? He is good enough to know his mum is dead without checking but his hearing must be affected :lol::lol:

[Katy]

I noticed that as well, when i flicked across IT was me still wasnt enough for him to get off poor Joe. I think If she hadnt have said it might have been deadas well.I could nt really dot or Jim getting him off him. He looked determined to do some damage.

[PR1811]

Tonight was Dierdrick Santers first episode

And not a bad first episode either! :)

[Nigella harman]

Tonight was Dierdrick Santers first episode

And not a bad first episode either! :)

Oh,i loved it!!I think Martins brill!Id love to see him pick up an award for this week.:thumbsup:

[littlemo]

Tonight was Dierdrick Santers first episode

And not a bad first episode either! :)

Is he a writer, cause I thought it was Sarah Phelps.

Thought the episode (more a less a 2 hander) was really good tonight! If not a bit unbelievable.

Why Sonia didn't admit that the fruit bowl smashed on the floor, when Pauline fell over I don't know! There's no need for all these lies. Felt sorry for Rebecca.

Martin is so bitter! It's understandable cause Sonia keeps lying. And there's no need for it. I don't get why she's doing it. :confused:

Noticed Bradley had a really smart suit on, coming out of the Vic. Was he supposed to have been to a function or something?!

[littlemo]

Tonight was Dierdrick Santers first episode

And not a bad first episode either! :)

Oh,i loved it!!I think Martins brill!Id love to see him pick up an award for this week.:thumbsup:

Yeah! lol.

My dad was like, is he going for an oscar or what?! lol.

I was like, yeah he is a bit. Some quite comic lines from him too. Quite funny!

[Johnny Allen]

tonights was very good, the last 10 minutes even better did not see it ending like that, and boy did Sonia give Martin a smack.

[LostVoodoo]

not that i mind because its all been so good, but isn't January 1st 2007 the LONGEST day in albert sqaure's history?! its gone on for like 3 episodes!

[Richie_lecturer]

Tonight was Dierdrick Santers first episode

And not a bad first episode either! :)

Is he a writer, cause I thought it was Sarah Phelps.
No Phelps is a writer. Diederick is the Executive Producer, taking over from Kate Harwood. It's still mostly her stuff for now so you'll have to wait until Spring to see the first signs of his influence.


Noticed Bradley had a really smart suit on, coming out of the Vic. Was he supposed to have been to a function or something?!

He was going to the Society of Ginger People AGM.

[Abbie]

not that i mind because its all been so good, but isn't January 1st 2007 the LONGEST day in albert sqaure's history?! its gone on for like 3 episodes!

I was thinking that, I mean woah is that a new record?

[CrazyLea]

Personally.. thought the episode was crap til the end. The end was really good... and unexpected.. but I'm not really a fan of 2 handers, which basically it was :searchme:

[Abbie]

Personally.. thought the episode was crap til the end. The end was really good... and unexpected.. but I'm not really a fan of 2 handers, which basically it was :searchme:

I know i mean to drag on the whole day to a whole week it want a bit of a bore, but I did feel sorry for sonia.

[Chris_2k11]

Most of the episode was good but it did drag on a bit. The ending was great though with Sonia being carted away by the police.. it felt like proper EastEnders! :cool:

[alan45]

Most of the episode was good but it did drag on a bit. The ending was great though with Sonia being carted away by the police.. it felt like proper EastEnders! :cool:Yes loads of shouting at each other. Strange that they can arrest Sonia on the word of a child. As far as I know the PM has not been carried out so the Walford cops do not actually know the cause of death. The PACE clock will have run at least 48hrs before they get the results:rotfl:

[Tracy Barlow]

Didn't Sonia admit to Martin that she hit her? yes and he phoned the police to tell her where so was so thats why she was arrested on suspicion.

At least thats what I picked up from a well written episode that was written for clever adults.

Alan your going to die when you see the next two weeks of Corrie because the Tracy plot has so many holes in it they may as well call the show cheese street:rotfl:

[Tracy Barlow]

Most of the episode was good but it did drag on a bit. The ending was great though with Sonia being carted away by the police.. it felt like proper EastEnders! :cool:Yes loads of shouting at each other. Strange that they can arrest Sonia on the word of a child. As far as I know the PM has not been carried out so the Walford cops do not actually know the cause of death. The PACE clock will have run at least 48hrs before they get the results:rotfl:


You don't need to know the results of a PM to arrest someone! Martin told the cops that Sonia hit Pauline because Sonia told him.:lol:

Thats what happens in the real world

[parkerman]

I don't think it does.

Even that wouldn't be good enough to arrest her. No-one knows yet why/how Pauline died. Don't you think it might have been an idea for the police to speak to Sonia first? Take her in for questioning, yes, but arrest her???

It doesn't happen on The Bill!!!

[alan45]

Most of the episode was good but it did drag on a bit. The ending was great though with Sonia being carted away by the police.. it felt like proper EastEnders! :cool:Yes loads of shouting at each other. Strange that they can arrest Sonia on the word of a child. As far as I know the PM has not been carried out so the Walford cops do not actually know the cause of death. The PACE clock will have run at least 48hrs before they get the results:rotfl:


You don't need to know the results of a PM to arrest someone! Martin told the cops that Sonia hit Pauline because Sonia told him.:lol:

Thats what happens in the real worldWelcome back :rolleyes: That my dear is hearsay. Insufficient evidence to warrant an arrest. Why waste a whole 48 hours of interviewing time before they have evidence that a crime has been committed That does not happen in the REAL world only in the demented simplistic minds of EE scriptworld. Just a typically unresearched story.

[Katy]

I thought it was a bit odd that the arrested her only because so what if she hit her, that doesnt usually cause someones death. It was typical enders though, crying shouting, more shouting, a bit miore crying.

[alan45]

I don't think it does.

Even that wouldn't be good enough to arrest her. No-one knows yet why/how Pauline died. Don't you think it might have been an idea for the police to speak to Sonia first? Take her in for questioning, yes, but arrest her???

It doesn't happen on The Bill!!!Nor in the REAL world. The laws of evidence do not apply in Walford

[alan45]

Didn't Sonia admit to Martin that she hit her? yes and he phoned the police to tell her where so was so thats why she was arrested on suspicion.

At least thats what I picked up from a well written episode that was written for clever adults.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Alan your going to die when you see the next two weeks of Corrie because the Tracy plot has so many holes in it they may as well call the show cheese street:rotfl:


Sorry but I thought this thread was about Eastenders.

[Tracy Barlow]

I don't think it does.

Even that wouldn't be good enough to arrest her. No-one knows yet why/how Pauline died. Don't you think it might have been an idea for the police to speak to Sonia first? Take her in for questioning, yes, but arrest her???

It doesn't happen on The Bill!!!

They have reason to believe Pauline was murdered so acted on this info. they arrested Sonia without charge for questioning with is what happens. If the PM comes back to say she was not murdered she will be released without charge.

[Tracy Barlow]

Most of the episode was good but it did drag on a bit. The ending was great though with Sonia being carted away by the police.. it felt like proper EastEnders! :cool:Yes loads of shouting at each other. Strange that they can arrest Sonia on the word of a child. As far as I know the PM has not been carried out so the Walford cops do not actually know the cause of death. The PACE clock will have run at least 48hrs before they get the results:rotfl:


You don't need to know the results of a PM to arrest someone! Martin told the cops that Sonia hit Pauline because Sonia told him.:lol:

Thats what happens in the real worldWelcome back :rolleyes: That my dear is hearsay. Insufficient evidence to warrant an arrest. Why waste a whole 48 hours of interviewing time before they have evidence that a crime has been committed That does not happen in the REAL world only in the demented simplistic minds of EE scriptworld. Just a typically unresearched story.

But it does happen in the real world read up on law. If you like I will derect to a law site which slates all this but as you have made a fool of yourself already I don't really want to show you up anymore.

[alan45]

:rolleyes:

I don't think it does.

Even that wouldn't be good enough to arrest her. No-one knows yet why/how Pauline died. Don't you think it might have been an idea for the police to speak to Sonia first? Take her in for questioning, yes, but arrest her???

It doesn't happen on The Bill!!!

They have reason to believe Pauline was murdered so acted on this info. they arrested Sonia without charge for questioning with is what happens. If the PM comes back to say she was not murdered she will be released without charge.
Yes sure they will:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Any decent lawyer would have her released immeadiatly and the Police charged with wrongful arrest and unlawful imprisonment.

[Tracy Barlow]

:rolleyes:

I don't think it does.

Even that wouldn't be good enough to arrest her. No-one knows yet why/how Pauline died. Don't you think it might have been an idea for the police to speak to Sonia first? Take her in for questioning, yes, but arrest her???

It doesn't happen on The Bill!!!

They have reason to believe Pauline was murdered so acted on this info. they arrested Sonia without charge for questioning with is what happens. If the PM comes back to say she was not murdered she will be released without charge.
Yes sure they will:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Any decent lawyer would have her released immeadiatly and the Police charged with wrongful arrest and unlawful imprisonment.


How old are you 12?

This is not how law works. Look at the two men arrested for the murders of those women in Ipswitch, They don't need to know the cause fo death to question someone!:rotfl:

[parkerman]

:rolleyes:

I don't think it does.

Even that wouldn't be good enough to arrest her. No-one knows yet why/how Pauline died. Don't you think it might have been an idea for the police to speak to Sonia first? Take her in for questioning, yes, but arrest her???

It doesn't happen on The Bill!!!

They have reason to believe Pauline was murdered so acted on this info. they arrested Sonia without charge for questioning with is what happens. If the PM comes back to say she was not murdered she will be released without charge.
Yes sure they will:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Any decent lawyer would have her released immeadiatly and the Police charged with wrongful arrest and unlawful imprisonment.


How old are you 12?

This is not how law works. Look at the two men arrested for the murders of those women in Ipswitch, They don't need to know the cause fo death to question someone!:rotfl:
Are you for real? Oh, so perhaps the women in Ipswich (note spelling by the way) weren't murdered after all then...

[Tracy Barlow]

:rolleyes:

I don't think it does.

Even that wouldn't be good enough to arrest her. No-one knows yet why/how Pauline died. Don't you think it might have been an idea for the police to speak to Sonia first? Take her in for questioning, yes, but arrest her???

It doesn't happen on The Bill!!!

They have reason to believe Pauline was murdered so acted on this info. they arrested Sonia without charge for questioning with is what happens. If the PM comes back to say she was not murdered she will be released without charge.
Yes sure they will:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Any decent lawyer would have her released immeadiatly and the Police charged with wrongful arrest and unlawful imprisonment.


How old are you 12?

This is not how law works. Look at the two men arrested for the murders of those women in Ipswitch, They don't need to know the cause fo death to question someone!:rotfl:
Are you for real? Oh, so perhaps the women in Ipswich (note spelling by the way) weren't murdered after all then...

Yes I'm real thank you.


just pointing out the facts.

[Tracy Barlow]

Anyway I'm :banned:

So goodbye until next time!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Just as I thought it was getting good it ends up as a let down (My opinion)

I really enjoyed it at the start of this week.. I haven't for quite a while.. Especially since the Christmas episode. I think there was too much Sonia and Martin in it. I did think that some of Martin's lines were quite funny though.. Like asking Sonia is she was Mr. Tickle :lol:

[Dutchgirl]

Sonia made a real mess of things. It couldn't have been nay worse than this. When she told Martin that Rebecca witnessed it all, I thought he would kill here right there and then. But Pauline's voice from the grave would have rescued Sonia if she came clean much sooner. But hey it is a soap so things have to be difficult.

[Richie_lecturer]

But it does happen in the real world read up on law. If you like I will derect to a law site which slates all this but as you have made a fool of yourself already I don't really want to show you up anymore.
Well my friends in the legal profession have undergone years of diabolical teaching then. I await your link to a law site. :)


This is not how law works. Look at the two men arrested for the murders of those women in Ipswitch, They don't need to know the cause fo death to question someone!
Oh, dear.

[babyblue]

Just as I thought it was getting good it ends up as a let down (My opinion)

I really enjoyed it at the start of this week.. I haven't for quite a while.. Especially since the Christmas episode. I think there was too much Sonia and Martin in it. I did think that some of Martin's lines were quite funny though.. Like asking Sonia is she was Mr. Tickle :lol:

haha I know I cracked up at that....It was like showgirls in that it was unintentionally comedic, overacted and it was actually so bad it was good :P

[alan45]

l:Oh dear you never seem to learn Bye bye troll

[Abbie]

You know what gets me, is that pretty much everyone had been slapped in eastenders, then sonia slaps someone and they die and I know martin is very angry at her, but he is making it out as if shh threw her down the stairs, even if the slap did kill her

[Kim]

You know what gets me, is that pretty much everyone had been slapped in eastenders, then sonia slaps someone and they die and I know martin is very angry at her, but he is making it out as if shh threw her down the stairs, even if the slap did kill her

It's not just the fact that it was a slap; survival obviously is possible when the friut bowl is smashed. Stalker Sarah, I recall, was actually directly hit over the head with the fruitbowl, and she is still alive. So much Pauline loving that bowl, it wasn't so long ago that she was devastated over the other one.

[Richie_lecturer]

Is Sarah still under the Fowler table?

That fruitbowl would never smash into a million pieces, about a handful at the most. It might even have not cracked at all, given it fell less than a metre to the carpet.

[JustJodi]

Is Sarah still under the Fowler table?

That fruitbowl would never smash into a million pieces, about a handful at the most. It might even have not cracked at all, given it fell less than a metre to the carpet.

Depending on the thickness of the glass,, and if the carpet is thick,, nah it would probably have NOT even CRACKED ,,,Some one musta spent some time smashing it up in a gazillion pieces.:cool:

[Richie_lecturer]

Not sure about the carpet, but yes, fruitbowls are quite heavy, with a thick layer of glass - not easy to break.

I reckon Pauline smashed it up herself so it could be put out to recycle. :cool:

[Babe14]

I've started watching Easties again three weeks ago and have to say that there appears to have been a great improvement, with the odd exception here and there.

I'm enjoying Rob/Mai/Dawn and baby storyline (Rob is a great character), Max/Tana/Stacey storyline which I feel sure is a copy cat of Corrie's Danny/Leanne/Jamie/Frankie one, but enjoyable none the less. Max/Tanya/Rob are all good strong characters.

As for Sonia sorry the character is just annoying now. I really like Martin and particularly love the scenes with just him and Rebecca and hope that his departure from the square will involve just the two of them.

Enjoying the Wicks storyline of the re-appearance of the "Slapper Mother", Carly is fantastic and I could even stand Deano this week, he seems to of improved a little.

Minty/Gary hilarious as ever, being the "married" couple.:lol:

Ian (Adam) wonderful as ever, as is June Brown (Dot).

I cracked up when Dot collapsed at Pauline's funeral and Keith said "looks like another one is on their way out":lol:

Joe can't wait for him to leave - (wonder if he will meet the same fate as Pauline...):D

Pauline's final scenes were acted brillinatly by WR she really was an old battle axe but just before she died she became nice again.

Some very emotional scenes in the Vic with Joe and then later with Martin.

Not bad, not bad at all.

[parkerman]

I really like Martin

Yes, he has great acting ability. He can run the whole range from Angry to VERY ANGRY

[Richie_lecturer]

It's like watching kid's TV again. You have Mr Benn and you have Mr Angry. Funny old world...

[Abbie]

You know what gets me, is that pretty much everyone had been slapped in eastenders, then sonia slaps someone and they die and I know martin is very angry at her, but he is making it out as if shh threw her down the stairs, even if the slap did kill her

It's not just the fact that it was a slap; survival obviously is possible when the friut bowl is smashed. Stalker Sarah, I recall, was actually directly hit over the head with the fruitbowl, and she is still alive. So much Pauline loving that bowl, it wasn't so long ago that she was devastated over the other one.
I know I just think that its sounds stupid when martin is saying that sonia killed his mother over a slap.
And when he said that he was going to stop sonia seeing rebecca since she took above someone he loved, I just thought as he really forgot about Jamie already?

[Kim]

Rebecca seems to see everything these days. So much for Richie Scott being a bent solicitor, she seems the only one that is being realistic at the moment; that no-one is going to prosecute soley on what a 6 year old girl says. And as for that duty solicitor - isn't he the one that played the policeman in the Janine/Barry and Janine/Laura cases? If he isn't, he sounds a lot like him.

[Abi]

The new thread for this can be found here: http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=60160

Thanks :)