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*-Rooney-*
01-12-2006, 20:30
well that episode was an unexpected one, i hardly expected ian and jane to get back together after the wedding and bravo to the letter very original
.:SpIcYsPy:.
01-12-2006, 20:33
In a way I'm glad that EE have decided to keep Ian and Jane together now.. but in reality would you really?!
Like you would really have a mud fight.. after that.. didnt seem 'right' .. notice how it was raining all day non-stop?!
Oh I don't know.. but I like Pauline's last line :lol: Go to hell :lol:
parkerman
02-12-2006, 00:04
Oh I don't know.. but I like Pauline's last line :lol: Go to hell :lol:
She must know that Ian will now tell Martin the truth. Oh dear...
Well what can I say about last night:
first of all Pauline is such a cow
secondly bit cheesy what ian was saying to pauline about how he is prrof
thirdly shocked they got back together
and fianly strange but rtaher amusing fit in mud lol
babyblue
02-12-2006, 10:29
I knew they'd stay together and I'm glad they did too. Can't see lucy being to pleased though :P
Pauline looked demonic in that episode, they must have had her all in red for that reason :P
what the hell was ben doing on the bed with the pighead though?
what the hell was ben doing on the bed with the pighead though?
Have no idea I thought that was really strange too.
Scorpio_Girl
02-12-2006, 15:44
Well what can I say about last night:
first of all Pauline is such a cow
secondly bit cheesy what ian was saying to pauline about how he is prrof
thirdly shocked they got back together
and fianly strange but rtaher amusing fit in mud lol
I agree. The knee high mud pool was just incredulous (dunno if its a word but it fits)- Who the hell thought of that idea?! Jane so did not look flattering, throughout that episode, it was like she was in labour. This must a pivotal moment for Lucy, rebel and all that.
As for Pauline- we already know she's an evil cow. This episode just proved it.
The whole Ben/Pighead thing. The Pighead represented Ian. :p
Nigella harman
02-12-2006, 17:21
I knew they'd stay together and I'm glad they did too. Can't see lucy being to pleased though :P
Pauline looked demonic in that episode, they must have had her all in red for that reason :P
what the hell was ben doing on the bed with the pighead though? Yeah,why on earth was he stroking the damn thing!?Phils face said exactly what i was thinking......that kid just gets stranger!:eek:
Richie_lecturer
02-12-2006, 17:26
She must know that Ian will now tell Martin the truth. Oh dear...
Squeal Beale doesn't tell the Lanky Moron, Straight Pike/Mr Benn finds out and tells Lanky Moron.
Yeah,why on earth was he stroking the damn thing!?Phils face said exactly what i was thinking......that kid just gets stranger!:eek: I know I just thought was very unusual, I mean who strokes food?
babyblue
02-12-2006, 22:17
maybe he was contemplating putting it in stella's bed....it kind of looked like phil so she probably couldn't tell the difference anyways :P
Richie_lecturer
03-12-2006, 00:00
Maybe he thought Big Mo had been beheaded, yet was miffed as he had seen her just minutes before. :confused:
Only joking. :o
Chris_2k11
03-12-2006, 08:41
Wasn't it because he used to like animals when he lived in South Africa. Something like that anyway.
I thought it was hilarious on Friday, a LOT of over-acting from Jane & Ian though it has to be said (Jane mainly). But it can hardly be helped considering the scenes they had to do, so I don't blame them. I would of loved them to just walk in the pub at the end :rotfl: Pauline cracked me up throughout nearly the whole episode :D Arguing with Peggy in the pub.. then when she saw Ian & Jane in the street, "Oh Ian what's she done to youuu" :lol: and at the end "Go to hell" :eek: :rotfl: That bit just cracked me up.. it was so unexpected lmao. You can't say that was predictable :rotfl: Good episode!
Dutchgirl
03-12-2006, 18:32
Just saw the omnibus, Jane's mum is such a dragon. Hop e Lucy can forgive Jane, othrwise it will be so predictable: stepdaughter hating her stepmom.
Pauline ugh! She is so nasty. She brought all this upon herself.
Pauline cracked me up throughout nearly the whole episode :D Arguing with Peggy in the pub.. then when she saw Ian & Jane in the street, "Oh Ian what's she done to youuu" :lol: and at the end "Go to hell" :eek: :rotfl: That bit just cracked me up.. it was so unexpected lmao. You can't say that was predictable :rotfl: Good episode!
She was brilliant.. I love that bit and as you said, so unpredictable.. Jane and ian are so in love and I glad they worked it out
Jessie Wallace
04-12-2006, 18:52
I really enjoyed Fridays episode, first time i've watched it in a while, and thought it was good, well writte, love Pauliene at the end, i properly laughed.
Chris_2k11
04-12-2006, 20:23
OMG i've just realised who Bert's wife is! It's Jessie Shadwick off Brookie! :eek:
Richie_lecturer
04-12-2006, 22:41
I thought Friday's was horrendous.
I'm not watching this week, as it's full of mostly characters I HATE: Wicks' and Foxes.
I thought Friday's was horrendous.
I'm not watching this week, as it's full of mostly characters I HATE: Wicks' and Foxes.
Couldn't agree more.. We have a week of Bert, Deano, Carly and Chelsea... my god it is EE nightmare before Christmas
Richie_lecturer
05-12-2006, 15:14
Why aren't they concentrating on Pauline? She doesn't have to be the centre of attention this week, but for all that business early last week to sudden temporarily disappear for a few days is silly imo.
parkerman
05-12-2006, 17:26
You mean like the way Billy and Honey just disappeared?
You mean like the way Billy and Honey just disappeared?
Are EE testing these actors I wonder to see how if they are liked? I mean sending the one everyone complains about (deano and Chelsea) away and we only get to see them.. if the rantings drop, will they be axed? I mean EE has lots of storyline left unfinshed.. Billy and Honey as you mentioned and the pauline storyline...
Richie_lecturer
05-12-2006, 18:46
You mean like the way Billy and Honey just disappeared?
That's a blessing in disguise. :)
Well that was a predictable ending!!!!!
Well that was a predictable ending!!!!!
I never ever would have guess that Shirley would have been there!!! I was shocked (emmm NOT).. At least we only have one more day of this and then we can get back to the real Eastender actors (pauline, ian et al)
parkerman
08-12-2006, 17:23
Last night's episode just about hit rock bottom - and that's saying something for Eastenders these days. When the tractor backed out on to the road it just about summed up what is so awful about the cliche-ridden dreadful story lines now on offer.
Lizzie Brookes
08-12-2006, 20:41
I know I'm in the minority but I thought the Wicks/Foxes were great. Shirley's quite scary, her eyes freak me out for some reason. She looks a bit mad judging by the eyes. I'm glad Denise forgave Patrick, it was wrong oof him and he shouldn't have done it but we alll know his reason - he was desperateto be her father ad when Libby came he couldn't bear to disappoint her. I wonder who's pregnant.
Richie_lecturer
08-12-2006, 21:35
The person who is pregant is....
Dot!
Seriously, it is Dawn
CrazyLea
08-12-2006, 21:48
I know I'm in the minority but I thought the Wicks/Foxes were great. Shirley's quite scary, her eyes freak me out for some reason. She looks a bit mad judging by the eyes. I'm glad Denise forgave Patrick, it was wrong oof him and he shouldn't have done it but we alll know his reason - he was desperateto be her father ad when Libby came he couldn't bear to disappoint her. I wonder who's pregnant.
I thought they were quite good as well. Not brilliant, but I did find them slightly enjoyable. I like them all, except that Deano!
how come the test was in the minivan though?
megan999
10-12-2006, 16:28
I know I'm in the minority but I thought the Wicks/Foxes were great. Shirley's quite scary, her eyes freak me out for some reason. She looks a bit mad judging by the eyes.
I really enjoyed these episodes. IMO they were a breath of fresh air. I am fed up of Pauline. It was nice to have Bert being given a decent storyline. His wife's acting was v.good. I really like Deano, he's a good comic actor and him and Chelsea make a good double act. Denise is getting on my nerves though. Shirley looks like a good new character :thumbsup:.
.:SpIcYsPy:.
10-12-2006, 18:21
The person who is pregant is....
Seriously, it is Dawn
But this test was found in the mini bus?..
Btw.. how on earth did Shirley get the details inside the mini bus:rolleyes:
Richie_lecturer
10-12-2006, 19:11
His wife's acting was v.good.
I remember her in Corrie back in the 80s, as Dulcie Froggatt. She had an affair with Jack Duckworth once. She's a good actress.
I really like Deano, he's a good comic actor
:eek: :sick:
Oh well that would make alot more sense, and expalin things.
Please do not talk about spoilers. This is for current episode discussion. Use spoiler tags if you are going to reveal something. I didn't know about any of the above..
*-Rooney-*
11-12-2006, 14:13
the above posts are not spoilers??????
the above posts are not spoilers??????
not all of them but your one and another one was.. It gave away storylines for this week. Other spoiler in this tread are in the spoiler quotes:
like this
this give people a chance to read them or not. This thread is only for current discussion
*-Rooney-*
11-12-2006, 14:47
not all of them but your one and another one was.. It gave away storylines for this week. Other spoiler in this tread are in the spoiler quotes:
like this
this give people a chance to read them or not. This thread is only for current discussion pre tell what spoiler did i post
pre tell what spoiler did i post
I have taken this off line as this is not the time or the place to discuss this
*-Rooney-*
11-12-2006, 15:05
well i would use the tags but i dont know how to use them, like everyone didnt know anyway
My god that was a good episode last night. Fantastic acting from Pauline. I am so glad Joe found out about this. Can't wait to see what Martin has to say to her on this!!!! That woman is unbelievable, how can you sink that low just to keep someone away from your son????
Loved the scenes with Jane and Ian too, they were lovely together especially when jane asked if they were going to be ok and Ian said NO!! we are going to be Great!!
Great last night!!!!!!!
And im so so glad that her secret is out, you have no idea how happy I was at the end and throughout the episode I was cheering Jo on in hope that he finds out.
Great last night!!!!!!!
And im so so glad that her secret is out, you have no idea how happy I was at the end and throughout the episode I was cheering Jo on in hope that he finds out.
I know what you mean.. I was going mad that it ended.. can't wait for tonight. That girl who plays rebecca (if acting) was really good when joe shouted she jumped..
I know what you mean.. I was going mad that it ended.. can't wait for tonight. That girl who plays rebecca (if acting) was really good when joe shouted she jumped.. Awww I know she was so sweet, im going to sound like a total cow but Im glad rebecca was there to here it, as Pauline deserves to be hated.
Awww I know she was so sweet, im going to sound like a total cow but Im glad rebecca was there to here it, as Pauline deserves to be hated.
I don't know if she actually knows or understands that Pauline pretended to be ill.. she probably thinks that Joe and Martin are the bad people for shouting at Pauline
I don't know if she actually knows or understands that Pauline pretended to be ill.. she probably thinks that Joe and Martin are the bad people for shouting at Pauline I Know but the fact that rebecca was in the room should make Martin more angry and Pauline deserves what ever is coming to her, I mean its sick to lie about what she did.
What another great episode.. even Dawn didn't put me off.. I really thought Pauline was going to say something to Rebecca!!! Evil witch.. see how she pretended like Sonia wasn't there. I knew Rebecca would start on Martin for shouting at Pauline, poor pet doesn't have a clue what is going on
Laughed at Kevin making the girls take a pregnacy test :rotfl::rotfl:
Lizzie Brookes
14-12-2006, 20:38
I absolutely hate Pauline, Joe deserves better and Joe is avsolutely right, she will end up a bitter, lonely and selfish woman. Martin is 21 and i's his lifeand if she really wanted hiim to bev happy she would let him be with Sonia. You can't pretend to be uill,it's just not done, its sick. I'm glad Rebecca has accepted Martin and Sonia as mum and dad. I wonder how May workedout Rob was the married man - was it because of his apology or his reaction to Dawn's pregnancy?
Well Dawn told her that him and his wife were trying for a baby so when Rob came in all apologetic May was bound to put two and two together.
Loved Bradley so much tonight bless him! He was totally working that suit lol :p
It was such a good night tonight! I was on the brink of tears when Rebecca called Sonia "Mummy". I liked the Dawn/Rob/May stuff too, especially at the end.
:lol: Gary and Minty!
It was such a good night tonight! I was on the brink of tears when Rebecca called Sonia "Mummy".
I was in tears.. first I thought, that is a bit sudden, she only found out the truth the day before but I am glad they didn't drag this one out "you're not my mother" stuff.. I loved it, it was so touching
Lizzie Brookes
15-12-2006, 10:00
I was in tears.. first I thought, that is a bit sudden, she only found out the truth the day before but I am glad they didn't drag this one out "you're not my mother" stuff.. I loved it, it was so touching
It wouln't have been appropriate. Zoe was 18. Rebecca's only 5.
It wouln't have been appropriate. Zoe was 18. Rebecca's only 5.
I wasn't thinking about Zoe.. but kid will think like that.. if you were just told someone was your parents, you wouldn't instantly call them mum and dad, it takes a while
Lizzie Brookes
15-12-2006, 10:10
Oh, what I meant was, being very young she might not feel that betrayal and hurt as keenly as a teenager or adult would because he is not old enough to understand such things.
Oh, what I meant was, being very young she might not feel that betrayal and hurt as keenly as a teenager or adult would because he is not old enough to understand such things.
yeah that is true but it is still sudden. Think about it she just lost her parents (that she thought) and grandmother and then 2 people who she thinks of as friends just drop this on her.. My daughter is 5 and if she was told to call someone else mum she wouldn't
Lizzie Brookes
15-12-2006, 10:17
Well I suppose this is EastEnders.
LostVoodoo
15-12-2006, 18:42
It wouln't have been appropriate. Zoe was 18. Rebecca's only 5.
mentally, i think they're about the same though :lol:
Richie_lecturer
15-12-2006, 20:39
I was on the brink... So was I. Awful week, full of Rooden Wob and Yawn, Gary and Minty rubbish, and more.
It was such a good night tonight! I was on the brink of tears when Rebecca called Sonia "Mummy". I liked the Dawn/Rob/May stuff too, especially at the end.
:lol: Gary and Minty!
i agree eastenders has been so good this week
next week looks even better as the new executive takes over and all the tv mags today are saying the next 3 weeks of easties are unmissable and soap at its best
eastenders so good right now
a promising week in Walford
finally making use of its characters Dawn, Bert etc
some great storylines emerging, especially with the Fowlers
I've got a feeling 2007 might be a good year for Eastenders
parkerman
16-12-2006, 12:43
I've got a feeling 2007 might be a good year for Eastenders
Well, it can't be any worse than 2006...can it?:confused:
Lizzie Brookes
16-12-2006, 12:45
I don't quite get this stuff with May/Rob/Dawn. Was he lying when she told Dawn he was seperated or was he seeing Dawn while he was seperated or was he actually two timing May and Dawn? Anyway it was quite stupid of hiom to go and see Dawn after having just made up with May even if it was only for a financial reason.
a promising week in Walford
finally making use of its characters Dawn, Bert etc
some great storylines emerging, especially with the Fowlers
I've got a feeling 2007 might be a good year for Eastenders
i agree eastenders is the best right now
Pinkbanana
16-12-2006, 12:58
Im actually liking the character of Bert alot more these days....think this storyline with his ex wife and grandson is helping to flesh out his character. I use to think he was a totally annoying, and pointless character.
Now its a shame they cant do something with that prat Deanoooooooooo! Though I dont think I'll ever warm to his character...lol
i dont get the stuff with May and Rob they are only just characters we have been introduced to. I havent got used to them yet and therefore cant be bothered with the storyline. It was good last night with Garry and Minty.
The milky bar kid is being more and more irritating. I dont thiknk ill ever warm to him. Hes sucha spoilt brat.
Richie_lecturer
16-12-2006, 13:52
Well, it can't be any worse than 2006...can it?:confused:
Or 2005, 2004, and 2003.
Let's just hope they don't screw up the exit of a classic character in 9 days.....
Chris_2k11
16-12-2006, 14:05
I've got a feeling 2007 might be a good year for EastendersMe too, I think it looks promising. 2006 has been rubbish, I mean it's just been so boring! :o
Well, it can't be any worse than 2006...can it?:confused: Surely not. Then again EE promises so much and delivers so little. Time will tell.
Or 2005, 2004, and 2003.
Let's just hope they don't screw up the exit of a classic character in 9 days.....
2003 and 2005 were great years 2006 has been boring but not in the 2004 way
Surely not. Then again EE promises so much and delivers so little. Time will tell.
thats just the fans hyping things up ee never promise anything but this time they have said next year will be a different era for the show this is da first time they have said so
Me too, I think it looks promising. 2006 has been rubbish, I mean it's just been so boring! :o
exactly, theres a chance 2007 could just be as bad, but im getting vibes that they are starting to build up to some good storylines by fleshing out characters and tying them together
often the problem is a character will leave, and then another character becomes redundant, for example Naomi is useless now that Sonia's gone back to Martin, all becuase they never gave Naomi a family or connected her with other characters, theres countless examples where they have gone wrong for the past few years, but with any hope Eastenders will start to improve soon and get as good as Emmerdale/Corrie.
thats just the fans hyping things up ee never promise anything but this time they have said next year will be a different era for the show this is da first time they have said so The Elstree Press office always hypes up each new story as Sensational and Explosive just as they do the returns of the Magnificent Mitchells and Miss Piggy.:rolleyes:
In actual fact all we get is the same tired old storylines endlessly trotted out. Only the character names change.
Its the same everytime they get a new producer. The fans and publicists go mad with the hype. After a few weeks it just returns to the same ol same old tired storylines.
Of course 2007 may prove me wrong but judging on past experience I'll not hold my breath
The Elstree Press office always hypes up each new story as Sensational and Explosive just as they do the returns of the Magnificent Mitchells and Miss Piggy.:rolleyes:
In actual fact all we get is the same tired old storylines endlessly trotted out. Only the character names change.
Its the same everytime they get a new producer. The fans and publicists go mad with the hype. After a few weeks it just returns to the same ol same old tired storylines.
Of course 2007 may prove me wrong but judging on past experience I'll not hold my breath
all sounds to me like you live in the past:lweek:
Lets stay on topic here please people....this is for current episode discussions. Thank you.
all sounds to me like you live in the past:lweek: I just prefer to let the facts speak for themselves. Even the TV critics agree:rolleyes:
I just prefer to let the facts speak for themselves. Even the TV critics agree:rolleyes:
all the tv critics i have read today say eastenders is the best soap for christmas with 18 of the best soap episodes this whole year
however im not a sheep i don't dislike something just because the reviewers its good nor hate something just because they say its bad. besides which there's a reviewer for every point of view these days people who can't see that are dense
all the tv critics i have read today say eastenders is the best soap for christmas with 18 of the best soap episodes this whole year
however im not a sheep i don't dislike something just because the reviewers its good nor hate something just because they say its bad. besides which there's a reviewer for every point of view these days people who can't see that are dense i think you are the latter You haven't heeded to my previous requests or warning that you have already received.
In accordance with the announcement which is clear for all to see and due to your ignoring of previous warnings.....:banned:
Richie_lecturer
16-12-2006, 21:23
Back on topic now that the air has cleared, and....
Anyone notice yesterday how EE tried to hide the fact that Wendy R wasn't available for filming? We had Dot chasing after her, and one scene in particular stood out, when we saw a figure close the door with Betty along side. It was obviously not Pauline, just an extra/double, and I thought it was all very cheesy.
The guy who plays Rob is so wooden, I'm surprised he doesn't lie down on the Vic bar when not filming his scenes. The actress who plays Dawn is equally horrendous. I like the one playing Dr May, but she will no doubt fall very soon to the scriptwriting equivalent of death: the EE personality transplant. :thumbsdow
I can't believe EE at the moment. How on Earth did Pauline get her kitchen tiled and painted in a week, if she is supposed to be depressed. It's not at if Martin or Joe care enough at present to have organised it. A few bits of wood and a lack of a kitchen lampshade hardly make it convincing.
They're going a bit OTT with Honey, as well. The family just vanished, nothing big happening, and it's like Honey and Petal are suddenly best mates, when, a month ago, she didn't want Petal anywhere near her. That's giving the impression that it changes overnight, rather than down's is a condition that requires devoted parents to look after the child.
Richie_lecturer
18-12-2006, 22:44
I can't believe EE at the moment. How on Earth did Pauline get her kitchen tiled and painted in a week, if she is supposed to be depressed. It's not at if Martin or Joe care enough at present to have organised it. A few bits of wood and a lack of a kitchen lampshade hardly make it convincing.
And when did she have the electrics and gas reconnected? The fire brigade would have turned them off.
Also why is Pauline's furniture still looking spick and span? Surely it would have been hosed down due to the effects of smoke, making it totally unusable.
They're going a bit OTT with Honey, as well. The family just vanished, nothing big happening, and it's like Honey and Petal are suddenly best mates, when, a month ago, she didn't want Petal anywhere near her. That's giving the impression that it changes overnight, rather than down's is a condition that requires devoted parents to look after the child.
Couldn't care less about this couple and their kid. Find them VERY annoying.
Couldn't care less about this couple and their kid. Find them VERY annoying.
Yet another potentially great storyline with great possiblities let down by crap scriptwriting and woeful research. What is it with the fools down Elstree way. Their stories seem to lose their way after a few weeks when some new EXPLOSIVE SENSATIONAL takes the fancy of these half baked luvvies. I was going to say there is no consistency but thats wrong. EE is very consistent at the moment.
Consistent rubbish:rolleyes:
tammyy2j
19-12-2006, 09:52
Poor Billy last night he really loves Petal and i think Honey has bonded with her now too. How sweet was Mickey? Seems Sean wandering eye is still on Tanya which Max can see? I tried of the Fowler storyline already
Poor Billy last night he really loves Petal and i think Honey has bonded with her now too. How sweet was Mickey? Seems Sean wandering eye is still on Tanya which Max can see? I tried of the Fowler storyline already
Yeah my heart went out to billy last night.. I think the change in Honey is very natural.. now she feels she is not under much pressure she is beginning to get on with Petal.. it was cute when she was playing with her after the bath.
I like the Fowler storyline, it is interesting and I can't wait to see what Peggy does to her tonight.. it is not going to be good :D:D
littlemo
19-12-2006, 16:04
Setting the scene for Bradley and Stacey this week! yah! And great to see Sean back!
I'm liking the May/Rob/Dawn storyline, it's brilliant! Rob is such a prat. He should just clear off and let May and Dawn look after the baby together (I know that sounds quite unlikely, but stranger things have happened). Looking forward to Mickey and Keith finding out about the pregnancy. Mickey's gonna be great with the baby.
I loved Tanya tonight, she was great singing and dancing. It was funny! lol.
Setting the scene for Bradley and Stacey this week! yah! And great to see Sean back!
I'm liking the May/Rob/Dawn storyline, it's brilliant! Rob is such a prat. He should just clear off and let May and Dawn look after the baby together (I know that sounds quite unlikely, but stranger things have happened). Looking forward to Mickey and Keith finding out about the pregnancy. Mickey's gonna be great with the baby.
I loved Tanya tonight, she was great singing and dancing. It was funny! lol.
I agree with Mickey. He seems to want a kid already, so he'll probably be desperate for one by the end of the storyline.
*-Rooney-*
19-12-2006, 17:25
but isnt dawn having an abortion......omg an abortion on albert square it cant be
Obviously not, she was going to have one, but spent the money on clothes and said that she was going to get one on the NHS.
May has a proposition for Dawn over Xmas, she wants to buy her baby
Chris_2k11
19-12-2006, 20:37
The Honey & Billy scenes were great tonight. It was so sad when they handed Petal over at the end. :(
Does anyone know where the story goes from here? How does she come back into it?
*-Rooney-*
19-12-2006, 20:45
billys a **** for letting her go, any real man should never put a woman (even if it is the childs mother) over his own child downs or not
*-Rooney-*
19-12-2006, 20:46
Obviously not, she was going to have one, but spent the money on clothes and said that she was going to get one on the NHS.
May has a proposition for Dawn over Xmas, she wants to buy her baby
but that doesnt mean she or rob is going to go along with it
Chris_2k11
19-12-2006, 21:19
billys a **** for letting her go, any real man should never put a woman (even if it is the childs mother) over his own child downs or notHoney's being a total cow.. she's totally just ignoring Billy's feelings. There's no excuse :mad:
Did anyone notice how when the children began singing in the square as a choir singing xmas tunes it was daylight, then about 2 minutes later it was practically dark, how was that?
I think we were supposed to believe that the children had been singing for half an hour or so in between the two scenes and so it could easily have got dark in that time
Did anyone notice how when the children began singing in the square as a choir singing xmas tunes it was daylight, then about 2 minutes later it was practically dark, how was that? A total eclipse, a powercut. But then this is EE so its probably dow to poor continuity:rolleyes:
Come to the spoilerboards to slag off EE. That's certainly what it feels like in this thread these days.
I know I've said it isn't up to standard lately, but at least I'm open minded and, I hope, give a valid reason why. The 'I tired of the Fowlers story now' and the picking at everything EE do is pathetic to say the least. These last few episodes have been very good and the Fowler storyline is brilliant and is building up nicely for next week. The Billy and Honey storyline was heartbreaking tonight, poor Billy is torn between his love for his wife and his baby girl. Dawn is being her usual selfish bitch self, which I can do without, but everything else is bubbling along nicely.
I can understand peoples' disappointment in the show lately, but quite honestly, I wonder if some people are actually watching the show when I read some of their views.
Come to the spoilerboards to slag off EE. That's certainly what it feels like in this thread these days.
I know I've said it isn't up to standard lately, but at least I'm open minded and, I hope, give a valid reason why. The 'I tired of the Fowlers story now' and the picking at everything EE do is pathetic to say the least. These last few episodes have been very good and the Fowler storyline is brilliant and is building up nicely for next week. The Billy and Honey storyline was heartbreaking tonight, poor Billy is torn between his love for his wife and his baby girl. Dawn is being her usual selfish bitch self, which I can do without, but everything else is bubbling along nicely.
I can understand peoples' disappointment in the show lately, but quite honestly, I wonder if some people are actually watching the show when I read some of their views. Unfortunately EE leaves itself wide open to criticism these day so its easy to criticise it as you have done yourself on occasions
For me, it isn't the characters that are to blame, it is definitely the script writers. The storylines and scripts now seem to be going round in circles with plots being recycled.
Look at the Mitchells. What is going on with them these days? They are nothing like they used to be. Sonia used to be a gobby, feisty character who was loyal and trustworthy with the potential to be the next Michelle, but they have rewritten her this year. Pat is very underused, Dot and Jim have become caricatures of themselves. Pauline has always been controlling, but her hatred of Sonia to the point where she would hurt Martin and Rebecca is one step too far.
With the newer characters, the Foxes and Brannings have potential but they are already messing them up with the 'who is the daddy' and the ridiculous story of family cheating we are about to see. The Wicks' family are appalling and yet, Phil Daniels could offer so much more.
I don't mind if the odd character returns, because that is quite realistic to see a family member coming home after being away, but to raise the dead was a pathetic clutching at straws.
I don't know what I want from EE anymore. I'm not sure if there was another Steve Owen that they could write for him in the way they would need to. I know thinking about past characters, with nostalgia, they seem to be much better than the ones now but maybe it was simply because the writers could actually write then..
I agree with Richie Lecturer (we do sometimes) EE is very predictable these days with extremely poor writing. You know what is going to happen before it happens. It has such a long way to go. The Martin dropping his towel outside the Branning's front room was a direct copy of Jamie a few years ago. Stupid, brainless, self obsessed Dawn throwing a brick through a car last week was pathetic. Just like self obsessed Zoe, blaming everyone else for her own problems.
Speaking of Dawn. She is such an appalling character, played by a very mediocre actress. Get rid please. Quickly...
There is of course the odd half decent episode among the mediocre ones. There are so many continuity errors and storylines which alter direction. Characters whise personalities change from week to week depending on which writer is flavour of the month. Implausible and idiotic ill researched storylines do not help. Just because the majority of older posters on here have more or less given up on EE of late dosent mean that you are not entitled to have you views. Thats what this board is about but dont criticise me for slagging off what I see as an ailing soap.
I have also criticised other soaps when they are poor too:)
:clap::clap: Round of applause to Perry and Emma.. that scene last night was so heartbreaking, I sobbed like a baby. It was so moving and my heart went out to Billy. Poor guy loves both his wife and child and has to make this choice. Was happy (maybe wrong choice cause I cried) to see Honey took this bad too. She does love Petal but feels she had to give her up as she can't cope.
I love EE of late, I am enjoying the carols mixed with scene (yolande singing silent night on monday was a genius piece of filming) I am really looking forward to the christmas show. I won't be sheding tears for Pauline but I think EE will do her exit justice. Some very strong characters are taken the storyline this year, Pauline, Ian, Sonia and Martin.. say what you like about these but Nathalie can act and has proven this time and time again
:clap::clap: Round of applause to Perry and Emma.. that scene last night was so heartbreaking, I sobbed like a baby. It was so moving and my heart went out to Billy. Poor guy loves both his wife and child and has to make this choice. Was happy (maybe wrong choice cause I cried) to see Honey took this bad too. She does love Petal but feels she had to give her up as she can't cope.
I love EE of late, I am enjoying the carols mixed with scene (yolande singing silent night on monday was a genius piece of filming) I am really looking forward to the christmas show. I won't be sheding tears for Pauline but I think EE will do her exit justice. Some very strong characters are taken the storyline this year, Pauline, Ian, Sonia and Martin.. say what you like about these but Nathalie can act and has proven this time and time again
I completly agree, it was really well done at the end. When you had the carols by the children in the background then Billy and Honey saying goodbye. It was really sad and really well acted. I have even started to quite like the dawn story even though she is doing my head in a bit at the minute, even though they are new characters you really feel for May.
tammyy2j
20-12-2006, 12:23
Poor Billy great acting from Perry and Emma. The rest of Eastenders is boring with Dawn and the Fowler storyline.
Poor Billy great acting from Perry and Emma. The rest of Eastenders is boring with Dawn and the Fowler storyline.
I quiet liked Fowler storyline.. I love when pauline got all high and mighty about the bench and Yolande said it was for her when they thought she had a brain tumour and she was like "whatever"... she really didn't know what to say!!!!
Richie_lecturer
20-12-2006, 13:25
Last night we got a clear view of the entire downstairs of the Fowler house, for the first time since the fire. It brutally exposed EE's poor researching of fires.
The damage looked minimal for what was supposed to have been a huge house fire. Instead it looked like the fire was about the size of a cereal packet, and could have been put out by breathing on it. I mean apart from the blackened walls, the curtains are in perfectly good order, as was her sofa (despite having a cover over it), and pictures dotted around the house aren't smoke damaged. Why is nothing damaged by all the water the firefighters used to put it out? You would expect the wallpaper to be peeling off because of damp plaster. That's just the tip of the iceberg though. The house would be uninhabitable until well after Christmas while it is dried out using industrial heaters, and electrics and gas are sorted out (they shouldn't be on at all as the fire brigade would disconnect them until further notice). Stuff like armchairs, carpets and sofas would be thrown out, as would other material possessions which are not damp-proof.
That's not slagging EE off for the sake of it, it is highlighting bad, bad continuity.
The Honey & Billy scenes were great tonight. It was so sad when they handed Petal over at the end. :(
Does anyone know where the story goes from here? How does she come back into it?
Billy and Honey get a call from the hospital, saying that Petal needs an operation in order for her life to be saved. Billy goes to see her, then Honey goes, bonding with Petal whilst she's there.
Couldn't believe Honey let Petal go when she'd seen that Tony. The name, just so common. Not who Billy would want her to go to. If I was anyone on that square, I'd want to make her suffer. I can't believe her attitude, it's been hard for her without her Mum, and yet she'd let Petal go without any of her parents. Honey wouldn't like it if it was her. I don't get how any parent can want rid of a child on the grounds of a disability.
DaVeyWaVey
20-12-2006, 22:39
A great episode last night. The Billy/Honey scenes were so emotional! It must have been so hard for Billy, after all, he had to choose between Honey and Petal...he knew that Honey didn't want Petal so he couldn't have them both. It was really sad, but great acting from both actors once again.
I am so glad Honey will change her mind about giving Petal up for adoption
Richie_lecturer
21-12-2006, 18:59
Right, another moan. :rolleyes:
How did Gary and Minty move Arthur's bench at the drop of a hat? These things are securely chained to the ground or encased in concrete foundations so they aren't stolen, otherwise the Walford yobs would have stolen it, and probably smashed it up and burned it.
Right, another moan. :rolleyes:
How did Gary and Minty move Arthur's bench at the drop of a hat? These things are securely chained to the ground or encased in concrete foundations so they aren't stolen, otherwise the Walford yobs would have stolen it, and probably smashed it up and burned it.
You mean like the Christmas tree?
Anyway no need to fear, soaps never have yobs unless they need a character to get attacked and be saved.
Chris_2k11
21-12-2006, 20:05
What a cracker of an episode tonight. Really enjoyed that.
Dutchgirl
21-12-2006, 20:15
Poor Stacey, she did not deerve allthis from radley, he is just plain mean.:angry:
She aborted her child for him, ungratefull git! (can I say this?)
*-Rooney-*
21-12-2006, 20:18
and she wanted the child so much, even if bradley didnt help, dot and jim would have stuck by her then theres max,tanya,(if she allowed them), sean, jean mo charlie
littlemo
21-12-2006, 21:01
Poor Stacey, she did not deerve allthis from Bradley, he is just plain mean.:angry:
She aborted her child for him, ungratefull git! (can I say this?)
Lol. I think so. :)
That moment at the end took me back to the point when Bradley walked off after he found out she was pregnant. She looked so distraught. :crying:
At least Bradley finally spoke some truth (although i'm sure a lot of it was lies. I reckon he does care about Stacey, or at least has done in the past).
Sad for their relationship. It was special.
JustJodi
21-12-2006, 22:01
Stacey: "Bradley, I love you !!!"
Bradley: " Tough"
OMG talking about a personality transplant, holy poo poo!!!
I wanted to wring Paulines neck, what the heck was she trying to prove wrecking the veg stall ?????????????
Then banging Joe over the head with a picture frame,, I tell ya I will be glad to see the end of that whiney old moo !!!:moonie:
I'm just watching on bbc3 now, and at the moment, I can hardly blame Bradley for dumping Stacey - behaving like that, I'm sorry, but thats no way for her to behave. Ok so Bradley should have told her about the party, but there was no need for her to go there, seemingly with just intentions of showing him up...
Lydia was a bit harsh, but Stacey seemed to go with only the wrong intentions.
.:SpIcYsPy:.
21-12-2006, 22:39
Brilliant episode tonight.. However I'm not happy with Bradley/Stacey storyline at the moment..
Richie_lecturer
21-12-2006, 22:44
You mean like the Christmas tree?
Anyway no need to fear, soaps never have yobs unless they need a character to get attacked and be saved.
Christmas trees moan? I will have to put my ear next to our tree and see if it moans!
I suppose the yobs can be taken out of the argument. That still doesn't explain how the bench could be moved so so easily.
Also, Pauline can't sell Martin's stall by herself. She needs his consent as well, as the ownership is split down the middle (when Pete died, Ian and Mark split it, but Ian decided to pursue other things so sold it to his Aunty Pauline (and Arthur)).
Enjoyed the scenes tonight with Pauline and Joe. :cool:
Then banging Joe over the head with a picture frame...
It was a plate.
Christmas trees moan? I will have to put my ear next to our tree and see if it moans!
I suppose the yobs can be taken out of the argument. That still doesn't explain how the bench could be moved so so easily.
Also, Pauline can't sell Martin's stall by herself. She needs his consent as well, as the ownership is split down the middle (when Pete died, Ian and Mark split it, but Ian decided to pursue other things so sold it to his Aunty Pauline (and Arthur)).
Enjoyed the scenes tonight with Pauline and Joe. :cool:
It was a plate.
No I meant that a) There would never be a Christmas tree in a real square b) If there was, there would be a big fence round it to stop the vandals and the baubles couldn't be hung so low as they would be stolen. They would probably also need permission to set-up the stage and food/drink from the council. At the end of the day it's a soap and the bench isn't screwed down, the baubles are hung low and the tree has no fence. I'm fine with that :D
Elsie Tanner
21-12-2006, 23:24
I watched EastEnders tonight for the first time in at least a year.
I watched EastEnders tonight for the first time in at least a year. It was the first time I'd watched for about 6 months aswell. I'm in two minds about trying to watch the Xmas episodes...
Elsie Tanner
21-12-2006, 23:31
It was the first time I'd watched for about 6 months aswell. I'm in two minds about trying to watch the Xmas episodes...
I wanted to enjoy it but I struggled. Of course I was out of the 'loop' on many of the storylines so I think I switched off for most of the episode.
I was most disappointed with the scene featuring Pauline and her new hubby. That came across as being very week - I think they could have made much more of the mistakes Pauline has had. It was a bit...wishy-washy.
I just wanted Joe to pick up the photo of Lou Beale :p
Although I hated what happened with Bradley and Stacey it was great drama and I loved watching every minute of it! Fantastically acted!
I wanted to enjoy it but I struggled. Of course I was out of the 'loop' on many of the storylines so I think I switched off for most of the episode.
I was most disappointed with the scene featuring Pauline and her new hubby. That came across as being very week - I think they could have made much more of the mistakes Pauline has had. It was a bit...wishy-washy.
I just wanted Joe to pick up the photo of Lou Beale :p I felt like I couldn't connect with any of the characters anymore - although I did feel for Billy with the whole Petal situation. When he started smashing up the cot, I could certainly envisage something like that happening.
Did I miss something, but who sprayed Liar across Paulines back gate? The Pauline and Joe scenes seemed very disjointed to me, as if it hadn't been rehearsed or something. I don't know, but when she hit him with the plate, there seemed to be an age between Joe facing the other way and Pauline then hitting him.
I think I may just stick with the films and family dinner on Xmas day lol
Elsie Tanner
21-12-2006, 23:46
I felt like I couldn't connect with any of the characters anymore - although I did feel for Billy with the whole Petal situation. When he started smashing up the cot, I could certainly envisage something like that happening.
Did I miss something, but who sprayed Liar across Paulines back gate? The Pauline and Joe scenes seemed very disjointed to me, as if it hadn't been rehearsed or something. I don't know, but when she hit him with the plate, there seemed to be an age between Joe facing the other way and Pauline then hitting him.
I think I may just stick with the films and family dinner on Xmas day lol
I don't care anything for Billy, especially not with what I have seen and read of this story. Just a flash in the pan it seems; they got rid of Petal for convenience.
I know what you mean about Pauline & Hubby II. I felt that the whole scene was very forced, although I would suggest that they were over-rehearsed because the actors seemed to care little for them. Hitting him with the plate was an instant reference to the famous moment where Pauline thwacked Arthur with the frying pan.
Richie_lecturer
21-12-2006, 23:51
One day, Mr Benn went into the Fowler house. He met Pauline Fowler, who hit him over the head with a chunk of porcelain.
I don't care anything for Billy, especially not with what I have seen and read of this story. Just a flash in the pan it seems; they got rid of Petal for convenience.
I know what you mean about Pauline & Hubby II. I felt that the whole scene was very forced, although I would suggest that they were over-rehearsed because the actors seemed to care little for them. Hitting him with the plate was an instant reference to the famous moment where Pauline thwacked Arthur with the frying pan. I wasn't sure whether it was from over or under rehearsing, but they certainly didn't seem to be too bothered did they lol. At least Arthur had had the affair with Mrs Hewitt to warrant the frying pan treatment though - Joe didn't really do anything that bad, apart from tell her how he felt about her family I suppose :lol:
I think calling the man she loved so much a jailbird and her only child left she likes a slapper warrants some kind of smack.
I loved it last night. Billy scene with the cot again got to me.. He loves Petal so much and he is a complete mess
Stacey shouldn't have done what she did, turning up at the party like that.. If she was annoyed, turning up and behaving would have made more of an impression on Bradley. Having said that, Lydia had no right to talk to Stacey like that, Bradley had no right to tell everyone she was just a fling and then tell Stacey he didn't ever want to have kids with her..
I am looking forward to tonight and the christmas one.... Billy/honey, Pauline/sonia features a lot in them and say what you like about EE scripts, they are good actors
i felt so sorry for billy last night.
poor stacey, bradley is turning into his father. stacey's well clear of him.
I think calling the man she loved so much a jailbird and her only child left she likes a slapper warrants some kind of smack.
I loved it last night. Billy scene with the cot again got to me.. He loves Petal so much and he is a complete mess
Stacey shouldn't have done what she did, turning up at the party like that.. If she was annoyed, turning up and behaving would have made more of an impression on Bradley. Having said that, Lydia had no right to talk to Stacey like that, Bradley had no right to tell everyone she was just a fling and then tell Stacey he didn't ever want to have kids with her..
I am looking forward to tonight and the christmas one.... Billy/honey, Pauline/sonia features a lot in them and say what you like about EE scripts, they are good actors But, putting it on the other side, the amount of hurtful things Pauline has said in the past to Joe etc - would that then make it excusable for him to hit her? Its still marital abuse in my book in some sense of the word. Understandable in a sense, but ahh I don't know.
Billy was heartbreaking I thought, and you could totally see where he was coming from. To be forced into making a decision about handing over the child you've always wanted, or losing the wife you love dearly was so awful for him and then to hear that news about Petal last night.
I don't think Lydia had the right to speak to Stacey like that either, but, I think it was with the best of intentions, although completely wrong. Bradley at the end, about the kids bit and everything, I think was a reaction to her coming out of the bathroom with that other guy. Bradley obviously thought something had happened, especially with the way in which she was flirting with him all night, and so it was said to hurt her. Hurtful things are said more so when you love the person you are arguing with. It was all well and good for Stacey to apologise, and good on her for apologising, but to me the damage had been done in her behaviour that night. She should have just kept away from the party. The way she acted when she was there, almost justified Bradleys reasons for not inviting her.
It was a better episode than the one that I had last seen 6 months ago, and like you said Siobhan, there are some very good actors in there, and they can only do as the script says.
But, putting it on the other side, the amount of hurtful things Pauline has said in the past to Joe etc - would that then make it excusable for him to hit her? Its still marital abuse in my book in some sense of the word. Understandable in a sense, but ahh I don't know.
But that is Pauline all over, she could always give the crap but never take it. And yes it is domestic abuse... What she said, let alone did, was nasty and horrible but to be honest, i didn't see pauline talking, I saw Wendy Richards talking. She never wanted her character to remarry. I think it was an attack on the writers/producers more that her on screen husband
But that is Pauline all over, she could always give the crap but never take it. And yes it is domestic abuse... What she said, let alone did, was nasty and horrible but to be honest, i didn't see pauline talking, I saw Wendy Richards talking. She never wanted her character to remarry. I think it was an attack on the writers/producers more that her on screen husband I think you are definitely right there Siobhan. She had made it clear how she felt about the entire Pauline/Joe union and it was ignored, so she had to make her point in a different way and that was probably it.
i never thought of it that way but i can really see your point. It was really well done last night, and i think its building up to christmas just nicely. I thought Joe was really good however hard he tried he still wanted to help her, Peggy and Paulines slanging match in the Square was good as well.
As for Stacey i dont think she deserved to be treated like that, they drinks went flying in true slater fasion.
I thought it was really good, too. Loved it when Pauline hit Joe, was it with the fruit bowl?! The original one got smashed in the Sonia/Martin/Stalker Sarah storyline, I recall. I wished I could just pop up and say, "Sorry, Joe, but every husband of Pauline Fowler has to be smashed round the head at some point, affair or no affair.
I felt so sorry for Billy when he started smashing the cot up, Honey cares a little bit, but not that much, yet.
Poor Stacey. I felt so sorry for her, knew that that man was going to start taking advantage when he followed her in like that. Go Stacey with the glass, just change the skirt! I really hate Bradley now, first the abortion, now dumping her. Why doesn't he just take everything away from her, as she seems to have lost Sean now, and Ruby only went a while back.
littlemo
22-12-2006, 19:08
Poor Stacey. I felt so sorry for her, knew that that man was going to start taking advantage when he followed her in like that. Go Stacey with the glass, just change the skirt! I really hate Bradley now, first the abortion, now dumping her. Why doesn't he just take everything away from her, as she seems to have lost Sean now, and Ruby only went a while back.
Does anyone remember that guys name?! I'll have to look at the episode again. What a prat! hey! I hope Bradley has a go at him, at some point. He's horrible! Wanted to see Stacey kick that guy, in the bathroom, he deserved a pasting! lol.
I don't like Lydia. Stacey's right she is a 'creep'! lol. I know she's nice to Bradley. But you can tell that she's a right snob. That's a first sight opinion though. It could be that she'll be quite nice once we get to know her.
Although I wouldn't really like anyone going out with Bradley, who isn't Stacey! lol.
Richie_lecturer
22-12-2006, 19:36
I am looking forward to tonight and the christmas one.... Billy/honey, Pauline/sonia features a lot in them and say what you like about EE scripts, they are good actors Oh I agree there are plenty of good actors in EE, but also a lot of awful scriptwriters who must get their ideas from watching Pocoyo.
Incidentally, how did Joe know all these Fowler secrets, especially Lucille Hewitt? Only Pauline, Ian, Dot, Pat and the Mitchells know about that, and I doubt Pauline and Dot would rattle on about it, even Dot the gossip queen of the Square.... :confused:
Elsie Tanner
22-12-2006, 20:26
Oh I agree there are plenty of good actors in EE, but also a lot of awful scriptwriters who must get their ideas from watching Pocoyo.
Incidentally, how did Joe know all these Fowler secrets, especially Lucille Hewitt? Only Pauline, Ian, Dot, Pat and the Mitchells know about that, and I doubt Pauline and Dot would rattle on about it, even Dot the gossip queen of the Square.... :confused:
You're thinking of Corra, Rich :p
littlemo
22-12-2006, 20:46
Absolutely fantastic episode tonight!
Bradley/Stacey/Max/Jim, wow! Loving Stacey's character! She's the best! :)
It was amazing how Lacey played the change of personalities so well, tonight. At first she was upset about Bradley, and then she decided to get mean! Going back to way she was before she met him.
Max punching Bradley was way out of order! It didn't even seem like a reflex reaction (It was nothing like when Dennis hit Sharon). It seemed vicious!
Oh, Martin knows about Mark jnr being Grant's. Surprised to see that coming out now! You reckon he'll tell the Mitchells before he leaves?!
LostVoodoo
22-12-2006, 21:05
Oh, Martin knows about Mark jnr being Grant's. Surprised to see that coming out now! You reckon he'll tell the Mitchells before he leaves?!
oooh i know, everyone in my family went 'oooooooooooooooooooooh' when he said that, we've been waiting for it to come out for YEARS! i expected more of a reaction to it from Pauline, maybe she doesn't believe him?
Oh, Martin knows about Mark jnr being Grant's. Surprised to see that coming out now! You reckon he'll tell the Mitchells before he leaves?! So when did Mark tell Martin about that then?! I thought Mark was the only one to know about it! This could be interesting then - that fact is now bound to get back to the Mitchells somehow....
Xx-Vicky-xX
22-12-2006, 21:09
So when did Mark tell Martin about that then?! I thought Mark was the only one to know about it! This could be interesting then - that fact is now bound to get back to the Mitchells somehow....
Martin said Michelle told him about it when he went over to see her
Martin said Michelle told him about it when he went over to see her Oh right - ta Vicky. I didn't see it tonight, so not a clue lol. When did Martin go over there last?
DaVeyWaVey
22-12-2006, 21:13
Two fantastic episodes both tonight and last night! Bradley was being such a prat towards Stacey! Him saying she had no class and she looks like a slut- it was way out of order! I felt so sorry for Stacey! Max made a big mistake though, kissing Stacey?! What was he thinking!?
Loved the scenes between Pauline and Martin tonight and Pauline and Joe last night. Pauline shutting everyone out is a really good storyline. I can't believe how much Pauline is hurting Martin, i hope she makes up with him. I was shocked by Joe's behaviour last night, dropping all of Pauline's pictures on the floor! No wonder Pauline whacked him one! :eek:
Xx-Vicky-xX
22-12-2006, 21:13
Oh right - ta Vicky. I didn't see it tonight, so not a clue lol. When did Martin go over there last?
Thats a shame you missed a good episode. Im not entirely sure when he went over to be honest to my recollection it hasn't been recently that he has been over there but maybe he did and it just slipped my mind :searchme:
Richie_lecturer
22-12-2006, 21:19
You're thinking of Corra, Rich :p
So I just noticed. :o
No idea why I put that, though the fact that Lucille died recently must have clouded my mind. :confused:
JustJodi
22-12-2006, 21:26
Does anyone remember that guys name?! I'll have to look at the episode again. What a prat! hey! I hope Bradley has a go at him, at some point. He's horrible! Wanted to see Stacey kick that guy, in the bathroom, he deserved a pasting! lol.
I don't like Lydia. Stacey's right she is a 'creep'! lol. I know she's nice to Bradley. But you can tell that she's a right snob. That's a first sight opinion though. It could be that she'll be quite nice once we get to know her.
Although I wouldn't really like anyone going out with Bradley, who isn't Stacey! lol.
The doody head was RHYS.
He claimed he had Staceys nickers in his pocket, hmm I wonder if Bradley would have reconized them EVEN IF Rhys did have a pair in his pocket,,
Lydia should have stayed out of it in the very begining..I did notice Bradley came to Lydias rescue rather quickly after Stacey dumped the wine on her..:cool: And I also noticed he gave Lydia a ride around in his new car FIRST before Stacey..
I can't help but wonder how old some of these EE writers are ??12??14??
JustJodi
22-12-2006, 21:29
Oh right - ta Vicky. I didn't see it tonight, so not a clue lol. When did Martin go over there last?
I think Martin and Sonia went to florida to see Michelle, I think it was early last year..( probably about the time Sonia got new knockers )
Chris_2k11
22-12-2006, 21:40
OMG EastEnders has got good again. Another great episode. My fave bits were the Pauline & Martin scenes. Pauline's been really good lately. The stuff with Max, Bradley, & Jim was enjoyable too. Really liking it at the moment! Bring on the next epi! :cheer:
Richie_lecturer
22-12-2006, 22:23
I assume the revelation about Mark Jnr is Michelle's way of opting out of going to mummy's funeral.
Still a flimsy excuse, but better than nothing.
kayuqtuq
22-12-2006, 22:46
I want to give Honey a good slap, she really gets on my nerves. I've never liked the character - I wish Billy and Little Mo were still together. I hate Honey for making Billy choose between her and Petal - Billy should have chosen the baby and told Honey to clear off.
Great scenes with Pauline in yesterday and today's ep, how much nastier can she get. Can't wait for next week!
Carol :cool:
littlemo
23-12-2006, 01:04
I want to give Honey a good slap, she really gets on my nerves. I've never liked the character - I wish Billy and Little Mo were still together. I hate Honey for making Billy choose between her and Petal - Billy should have chosen the baby and told Honey to clear off.
I do miss Little mo, but I don't mind Honey (she's o.k.). Little Mo was a better character though, I feel. I think Billy got over her too quickly. He was so besotted.
I hate the way the writers change people's feelings at the drop of a hat. That's what they are doing with Bradley's feelings for Stacey at the moment.
Johnny Allen
23-12-2006, 08:31
I do miss Little mo, but I don't mind Honey (she's o.k.). Little Mo was a better character though, I feel. I think Billy got over her too quickly. He was so besotted.
I hate the way the writers change people's feelings at the drop of a hat. That's what they are doing with Bradley's feelings for Stacey at the moment.
I think the writers have got it right with Bradley, we keep seeing this different side to him, like we did when Stacey had an abortion for his sake, hes not all sweetness like we first assumed, and hes starting to show a dark side to him.
Yesterdays episode was very good, havent enjoyed EE like that for sometime, the Max, Bradley, Stacey stuff I really enjoyed, particulary the Max and Jim situation, I think theres alot there still to come out. Very good episode lets hope the Christmas episodes are just as good.
LostVoodoo
23-12-2006, 09:33
I think the writers have got it right with Bradley, we keep seeing this different side to him, like we did when Stacey had an abortion for his sake, hes not all sweetness like we first assumed, and hes starting to show a dark side to him.
very much so, and he suddenly seemed like his dad, which was a nice touch. that scene with all 3 of them together was brilliant, Max really is the link between Jim and Bradley (he even looks like both of them!), alas, it's not the nicest of links!
EE Rocks
23-12-2006, 16:01
Brilliant Episode last night, Infact all of this week has been fab (I had a feeling it would be:cool: )
Max and Stacey - WOW, full on kiss i thought it would just be a peck on the lips. I enjoyed it though, Fab chemistry there.
Am i on my own? I love Evil Pauline, I don't want her to leave now, such a bitch.:eek:
Poor Tanya.:crying: I loved the showdown with the Brannings i wasn't expecting that, I wonder what the secret is? I am loving Eastenders at the moment it's on cracking form. Hope next weeks is even better.
P.S I don't think Bradley's had a personality transplant at all, he's always has a dark side, remember when he wanted that Job? (I think he cheated) and forcing stacey into an abortion?
littlemo
24-12-2006, 17:25
P.S I don't think Bradley's had a personality transplant at all, he's always has a dark side, remember when he wanted that Job? (I think he cheated) and forcing stacey into an abortion?
Yeah I think his dark side started when he cheated in his job. Before that I thought he was the most wonderful guy in the Square. And really good for Stacey.
But maybe it was just on the surface. There was still a lot of baggage from his past.
It seems his change of behaviour, is supposed to be down to Stacey and Max (individually), both of them quite manipulative, in their own ways.
Yeah, I suppose this side of his character could work. I still find it a bit strange though.
I'm sorry but I'm finding Stacey cringeworthy at the moment. Almost desperate. She may be single, but Max certainly isn't and when their little whatever happened gets out, not only is Max going to lose his son again, but also his wife and his two daughters. Sorry, but is Stacey really worth all that?!
I don't blame Bradley for giving Stacey the bill for the damage to his car. £300 is a lot of money. I don't think Bradley has really had a personality transplant though. Everyone loses their temper, or gets annoyed for one reason or another. Bradley is still the same guy to an extent, hes just not lying down anymore when something happens.
I'm sorry but I'm finding Stacey cringeworthy at the moment. Almost desperate. She may be single, but Max certainly isn't and when their little whatever happened gets out, not only is Max going to lose his son again, but also his wife and his two daughters. Sorry, but is Stacey really worth all that?!
I don't blame Bradley for giving Stacey the bill for the damage to his car. £300 is a lot of money. I don't think Bradley has really had a personality transplant though. Everyone loses their temper, or gets annoyed for one reason or another. Bradley is still the same guy to an extent, hes just not lying down anymore when something happens.
I agree with you- I can't believe Max is so stupid to risk losing everything. Having said that though I am enjoying watching Stacey wind him up.
I don't blame Bradley either. I agree with you- I don't think he's changed- I think he's just learnt to stand up for himself rather than be trampled all over
Richie_lecturer
24-12-2006, 23:23
Oh well, just a few hours until a legend departs. End of an era and all that....
Happy Christmas everyone.....
JustJodi
25-12-2006, 06:53
I personally think Max should back off, Stacey is going about things quite desperately..She is acting so NEEDY .BTW who the heck wrote that rubbish she was spouting to Max.. sounded like soft porn diaglogue.
Any way MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERY BODY xoxoxox
Chris_2k11
25-12-2006, 08:15
Last night wasn't as good compared to Friday I thought.
littlemo
25-12-2006, 19:23
Intresting episode today. Not as good as I was expecting, but I think it might liven up a bit later tonight.
Loved the speech by Stacey though! Telling Bradley he was crap in bed! lol. That was quite amusing.
God Jean was embarrassing. I was cringing listening her go on and on about Bradley. When your daughter's broken up with a guy, you don't want to keep on talking about him do you?!
Do you reckon Jean will help them back together?! Jim seemed to think Bradley should go and speak to Stacey, so he must feel a bit of sympathy for her. Bradley is being a bit heartless.
Very passionate at the end with Max and Stacey. You know she's just doing it cause she's hurt. There's a lot of emotional stuff happening with her mum, and with Bradley. It seems to be a way of blocking it out. And getting revenge!
Also I know people are going to cringe at this. But he's a lot more experienced than Bradley.
Elsie Tanner
25-12-2006, 21:16
I must say that that was the worst TV slap I have seen!
CrazyLea
25-12-2006, 21:42
Rather disappointed with the 'sensational' Christmas episodes.. they had their moments. But they were short lived. Paulines exit was dry, it could have been better.
The excellent Stacey stuff promised.. was okay. Nothing great!
Let's hope the rest of the week is better!
:crying: Pauline's dead! I thought it was good for her to die by Arthur's bench. Anywhere else and it wouldn't have seemed right.
:eek: The fruitbowl!
Chris_2k11
25-12-2006, 21:55
Oh god that was awful. And there was me thinking eastenders was back on the up. It's weird how the last few episodes have been really good but the xmas day one (which is supposed to be the best) was actually quite bad? :confused:
Richie_lecturer
25-12-2006, 21:59
A dreadful exit, for such a wonderful, wonderful character.
Sonia the nurse and everyone else just stare like gargoyles struck dumb, no call for an ambulance, no checking of pulse or breathing, nothing. Martin takes a look, says she's dead and it's game over for Pauline. Didn't think much of the scenes between Pauline and Sonia, they seemed to fall flat somehow.
Elsewhere, Stacey is turning into Kat mark II, only worse. Awful speech in the Vic. Don't buy the affair with Max one bit.
Phil dressed as Santa, Ben the robot, and Gary and Minty's 'hilarious' double act just made things even worse.
Cringeworthy episode, with a very cheesy and wooden exit, and no special endnote either like Julia's theme - maybe for the funeral, I hope.
Bye bye Pauline, and god bless you, Wendy Richard, for portraying a wonderful character to your best of your abilities. Sadly the scriptwriters turned you from a moaning old cow to a scheming old witch who was as wicked as Dr Shipman, and they honoured your wonderful committment to EastEnders from day 1 with an awful exit. Shame on them.
Pauline Fowler: 1985-2006. RIP
littlemo
25-12-2006, 22:34
Max is a real '*******'!! (if were not allowed to say that, asterix it out!).
Bradley and Stacey are both in love with each other. And we finally know now that Bradley does love her.
Stacey made a mistake by sleeping with Max, but she didn't lie to Bradley about her feelings for him. She's hurt, and Max knows that. To tell Bradley not to get back with Stacey is cruel and evil!
Max says he wants to help, but now he's just thinking about himself.
So, what happens to Bradley and Stacey now?! :eek:
Lets hope it ends with Max getting a short sharp punch to the face! I told you he was evil before he joined! :)
littlemo
25-12-2006, 23:38
So, what happens to Bradley and Stacey now?! :eek:
Lets hope it ends with Max getting a short sharp punch to the face! I told you he was evil before he joined! :)
Yeah! lol.
I want Sean and Bradley to give him a good going over! And Stacey as well! lol.
I hope Bradley and Stacey can get back together. I know it would be hard if Bradley found out about Max. Most likely impossible, but you've got to see it from her point of view.
And Bradley now knows that he did treat Stacey badly. He admitted that to Max's face. Do you think there could be a way to fix it?!
They are going to run in to each other at some point and have an argument and someone will say "But I love you!" and then the other will say "I love you to, but Max said, you said it was over?!" then when they work it out they will call in Assasin Sonia... :lol:
Chris_2k11
26-12-2006, 02:36
Pauline Fowler: 1985-2006. RIPBlimey was she only 21?! She hasn't aged well has she :rotfl:
This was beyond dissapointing, and it is a shame when its when they promised som much. Then again this is typical of EE nowadays. Massive build up and hype to a damp squib. What shameful treatment of one of the best actresses in this poor soap.
I think they shied away from making it really sad. This could be of course just plain nastiness from the beeb at Wendy Richards leaving and dissing them but its more likely to be just down to plain sloppy writing and continuity.
The writing was even poorer in the second episode and the continuity even poorer. Nobody not even the part-time Lesbian, single mum, alcoholic, ex daughter in law with the surgically enhanced mammary glands thought to check her vital signs:rolleyes:
The whole farce was an insult to our inteligence and looks set to continue doing so with the so called funeral arrangements.:wall:
Without a doubt the poorest soap of the festive period
Have to agree totally, what terrible scripting/writing/both!!!
My wife said in the first episode "ooooh its getting juicy again, maybe we should start watching again".
Then in the second episode, sonia walks back to the pub........no snow......then 10 minutes later pauline comes out, and its thick snow, tree's heavy with snow!!!!!
Pauline, laying on the floor, ex-nurse sonia stood watching, and Dr.Fowler pronounces she is dead without even checking her pulse, what utter rubbish.
And what was with Santa "Phil" talking in a german accent??? :rotfl:
Had quite enjoyed it up to them bits, then it just went back to the old farcicle EE of old.
Dutchgirl
26-12-2006, 10:06
What is Max's game? Dirty old perv, yuck yuck yuck:sick:. Stacey and Bradley belong together!! Well if this didn't happen it wouldn't be a soap wouldn't it?
It is a shame Honey came around so quickly it would have have been more believable if, Billy had to deal with it on his own. Good acting by the way, made me cry again, well must be the hormones playing up.:(
I'm sorry they made Wendy Richards leave this way. She deserved better.
"What is Max's game? Dirty old perv, yuck yuck yuck"
Well that was about the only realistic part of it to be honest.
Aint many weak willed men that could resist her dressed like that, she is very pretty and has a fantastic figure!!!
Even my wife said not many men would resist her!
That totally was not a good exit for such a valued actress. It was so poorly done that I was laughing at it. The bit where she was wobbly on her feet was bad enough, but the fall just looked as if she was drunk or something.
They want to sort out the timekeeping, too. And the reality. Since when, could a 6 year old girl go to Pauline's, see what happened, then be back before Sonia. Unless Martin AND Rebecca were there, which obviously, they weren't. And I don't think she could have gone on her own. Possibly Dot, but surely she would have said something. :hmm:
Max and Stacey - yuck. It's a good job I didn't have my full attention on the screen, at the end of the first episode. Loved the part with Tanya and Bradley, but just a little bit too late.
Pauline and Sonia - I actually felt a bit sorry for Pauline when Sonia was talking about that bike thing, because it showed how nice she could be, but then she ruined it by saying 'It was my world.'
Good on Sonia if she did cause it.
Footie_Chick
26-12-2006, 10:54
Lol, The question is did Rebecca see anything when she put the card at Paulines door???
Can't believe Max though how could he? He wants to be a Dad to his daughters and son and then he goes off with Stacey leaving Tanya sorting everyting out.
Can't wait till it gets out Stacey won't know whats hit her when Tanya finds out.
*soap*star*
26-12-2006, 11:28
I know everyone's saying how crap the episodes were but i still wish i hadnt missed them- must have been better than a lot of other christmas drivel.
Lol, The question is did Rebecca see anything when she put the card at Paulines door???
Can't believe Max though how could he? He wants to be a Dad to his daughters and son and then he goes off with Stacey leaving Tanya sorting everyting out.
Can't wait till it gets out Stacey won't know whats hit her when Tanya finds out.
It's speculation that she did, but tonights spoilers say that Rebecca shuns Sonia, so it seems likely.
Also, I'm doing Media Studies, and that card seemed like a symbolic code to me.
DaVeyWaVey
26-12-2006, 12:55
I agree, last night's two Christmas episodes were poor. It was ok to start with, it did look promising, Ian trying to persaude Pauline to stay, the confrontation between Sonia and Pauline, etc, but when Pauline just wobbled, fell to the floor and died, it was awful. In fact, i was nearly laughing, i couldn't believe she was actually dead, i didn't feel sad and i didn't feel any emotion, it was very poorly done.
I don't get this whole Max and Stacey business, i can't stand Stacey right now, what does she think she's doing getting it off with Max and what does Max see in her!? Totally unconvincing.
Another thing to add, why did it snow? It's funny that it snows in Albert Square and nowhere else in the country has snow.
I didn't enjoy this much at all. As the episode started with the classic lines from Arthur/Michelle/Lou i thought it may be a promising set of festive episodes, but typical Eastenders they managed to ruin it, and just remind us that its current output of episodes are rubbish in comparission to the classic eastenders that we all knew and loved.
I'm sick of the panto Gary and Minty, the spoilt brat Ben and this entire Bracey/Max drivel. I can't associate with a single character and if they axed it tomorrow I wouldn't shed a single tear.
They had the potential to make these episodes mind blowing, saying goodbye to a soap legend, but apart from her argument with Sonia, her exit -quiet frankly- was appauling. They have spent the last few months ruining her character, turning her into a shadow of her former self. Why would we care that they killed off some sad old spinster? All we are feeling sorry for is how the producers and writers are killing off not Pauline, but the show with their rubbish efforts.
Eastenders - can it survive another Christmas?
Richie_lecturer
26-12-2006, 13:41
I didn't enjoy this much at all. As the episode started with the classic lines from Arthur/Michelle/Lou i thought it may be a promising set of festive episodes, but typical Eastenders they managed to ruin it, and just remind us that its current output of episodes are rubbish in comparission to the classic eastenders that we all knew and loved.
I agree. It started off well. We had some nice exchanges between Ian and Pauline, and Dot and Pauline - very natural conversations, but after that it just plummeted.
Don't even get me started on the snow. Cheesy old rubbish.
Eastenders - can it survive another Christmas?
Easily. However IMO it's a mere shadow of its former self. I might not even bother watching Christmas 2007, which would be the first time I would miss the Christmas episodes since the beginning (I've seen them all). Hard to believe it was 20 years yesterday that Den gave Angie Watts the divorce papers - how it has plummeted.
Richie_lecturer
26-12-2006, 13:45
Blimey was she only 21?! She hasn't aged well has she :rotfl:
Well Fred Elliott died aged 12, and he had no hair follacles at all during that time, and was a grandfather! There are some very disfunctional families around. :p
Oh yes Alan, the funeral spoilers indicate this storyline is going to turn into even more of a farce. :(
In The Car
26-12-2006, 14:32
All you lot saying Pauline had a bad exit what would you have done and how would you have killed her off?
People keep over analyzing EastEnders all the time for no reason. The episodes last night had nothing wrong with them. If you think they should have been done a different way lets here it.
I don't even think half of you watch.
Xx-Vicky-xX
26-12-2006, 14:39
I am in two minds about the episodes from yesterday it was okay but i thought it was going to be really sad when she died but it wasn't at all it just sort of happened so i was a bit disapointed with it to be honest.
I Was Really Dissapointed With The Scenes Of Paulines Death! That Must Of Been The Worst Way To Kill Off A Actresse Who Has Been In EE Since It First Started! Looked More Of A drunken Fall Then A Death Fall (Althrough I Have Absoulotely No Idea What They Look Like!)
I Wonder How The Card Got On The DoorStep:hmm: Maybe Dot Put It Down Or Something Not To Sure About It Through:hmm:
I Was Set Against The Stacey/Max Affair But Now I Think It's Getting Good. Althrough It Is A Shame On Bradley!
Pinkbanana
26-12-2006, 16:35
I enjoyed the two episodes yesterday. Minty and Gary were actually rather funny I thought. Yep a bit panto, but soooo what, its Crimbo time and EE normally gets grief for being too depressing - they cant win.:(
The only bit I didnt like was the Max (you swine) and Stacey thing - it seems alittle sick too me (nearly choked on my mince pie when that scene with them in bed together came on my screen.:sick:), and the speed at which Bradders turned around from shouting "I dont want anything to do with you" to Stace in the pub, to telling his dad (who had just erm....slept with her) that he loved her...was pretty incredulous.
Also I actually found myself willing on the satsuma (Pauline) to smack Sonia back, after the little madam wollaped her one. Ding dong the witch is finally dead!!!!:cheer:
Just one Q, want is to become of the scruffy mutt that Pauline use to carry under her arm? :hmm:
Just one Q, want is to become of the scruffy mutt that Pauline use to carry under her arm? :hmm:
I Think Either Dot or Martin May Take Her Not To Sure Through:hmm:
littlemo
26-12-2006, 17:01
Yeah that turn around for Bradley was quite strange. He really did seem genuine when he told Stacey he didn't love her (at the party). Were there two different script writers for those two episodes?! I'm assuming so!
Bradley is very influenced by others. He said he didn't love Stacey, after he felt humiliated in front of his friends (at the party), which was probably to do with how he felt his friends reactions to her were. And then he said he loved her, after Max and Tanya told him how much Stacey loves him. He seems very mixed up. And i'm quite confused what his actual feelings are.
Although it seems that he does love her. Because he has to feel hurt by Max sleeping with Stacey. Otherwise it wouldn't be a good storyline.
Richie_lecturer
26-12-2006, 17:31
Were there two different script writers for those two episodes?! I'm assuming so!
Nope. It was old-school chap Simon Ashdown who wrote both episodes.
I know everyone's saying how crap the episodes were but i still wish i hadnt missed them- must have been better than a lot of other christmas drivel. I wished I'd have watched drivel instead of EE. It would have been more enjoyable
Nope. It was old-school chap Simon Ashdown who wrote both episodes. Ah yes he knows a lot about the East End me old china
LostVoodoo
26-12-2006, 17:44
the bit when Phil said to Rebecca 'what do you wnt for christmas' and she said 'a cardigan'! :lol: i nearly weed myself laughing at the stupidness of that!
littlemo
26-12-2006, 17:50
the bit when Phil said to Rebecca 'what do you wnt for christmas' and she said 'a cardigan'! :lol: i nearly weed myself laughing at the stupidness of that!
Yeah! lol. I didn't think at the time, but maybe she got that expression off her gran! lol.
In The Car
26-12-2006, 19:35
All you lot saying Pauline had a bad exit what would you have done and how would you have killed her off?
People keep over analyzing EastEnders all the time for no reason. The episodes last night had nothing wrong with them. If you think they should have been done a different way lets here it.
I don't even think half of you watch.
So not one person has answered my question.
Says it all really. Sarah is right about this place.
So not one person has answered my question.
Says it all really. Sarah is right about this place.
I'll answer your question - although I haven't bothered to post in months!
I would have preferred a storyline simialar to what Dennis had - Pauline hit over the head by person(s) unknown or something similar to who shot Phil. It just seems anticlimatic.
Yes, Pauline has always been a miserable cow, but the one thing that Pauline NEVER did was turn her back on her family - no matter what. However, the scripte writers, in their finite wisdom, had Pauline do just that. Pauline turned her back on Martin - even taking back the stall. I just cannot see Pauline doing that. Running away to America, yes, but becoming so embittered against her son, no.
Sonja slappaed her. Thousands of people have been slapped in EE (most of them by Peggy) and no one has died from a slap in the face.
Totally rubbish and Wendy Richards deserved much better.
In The Car
26-12-2006, 20:10
I'll answer your question - although I haven't bothered to post in months!
I would have preferred a storyline simialar to what Dennis had - Pauline hit over the head by person(s) unknown or something similar to who shot Phil. It just seems anticlimatic.
Yes, Pauline has always been a miserable cow, but the one thing that Pauline NEVER did was turn her back on her family - no matter what. However, the scripte writers, in their finite wisdom, had Pauline do just that. Pauline turned her back on Martin - even taking back the stall. I just cannot see Pauline doing that. Running away to America, yes, but becoming so embittered against her son, no.
Sonja slappaed her. Thousands of people have been slapped in EE (most of them by Peggy) and no one has died from a slap in the face.
Totally rubbish and Wendy Richards deserved much better.
Good posting however Sonia wasn't the one who gave Pauline the fatal blow
All gets revealed at the end of January. I blame EastEnders they should have made this part of the storyline more aware to viewers.
Hint = knock knock.
Xx-Vicky-xX
26-12-2006, 20:57
Did any one find it weird that all that snow just magically dissapeared tonight, there was loads of it there lasnight when Pauline died tonight clear as a bell, oh well cant say i expected anything more from them to be honest, only Eastenders can have tones of snow one night then suddenly none the next :rolleyes:
CrazyLea
26-12-2006, 21:16
Did any one find it weird that all that snow just magically dissapeared tonight, there was loads of it there lasnight when Pauline died tonight clear as a bell
Hahaha, you sound like my sister. Hates the show, yet still found time to critises the snow :lol:
Poor episode tonight :) Nice to see Ian getting involved though :p I think he should get involved with other characters more often, in the good way, not 'Oh Ian is a loser blah blah' *hides*
diamond1
26-12-2006, 21:28
Good posting however Sonia wasn't the one who gave Pauline the fatal blow
All gets revealed at the end of January. I blame EastEnders they should have made this part of the storyline more aware to viewers.
Hint = knock knock. your right it was rebecca!!! Pauline was off to give rebecca her crimbo presents when rebecca goes " Granny pauline did you ever wonder how Jhonny allen and dennis really Died well it was me I did them all and your next granny pauline EXTERMINATE.EXTERMINATE." that was just a joke however I think paulines death was a genuine death I think her character transplant went wrong somewhere and she died as an evil tyrant.
I think the biggest mystery around paulines death is what michelle and vickys excuse for not attending the funeral is!!
Xx-Vicky-xX
26-12-2006, 21:38
Hahaha, you sound like my sister. Hates the show, yet still found time to critises the snow :lol:
Come on you have to admit it is really weird there wasn't a trace of snow on that episode tonight and we all know that in reality if there was that much snow it wouldn't clear up like that so quickly :rolleyes:
If you think they should have been done a different way lets here ???????sp it.
I don't even think half of you watch. You sound so boringly familiar.
I thought last nights was bad but omg tonights was 10 times worse. Who writes this rubbish. Obviously the worst of the Christmas soaps. So many brilliant potentials ruined by dire writing
Eastenders - can it survive another Christmas?
Yes because the producers and the Beeb dont give two balls of blue about the real viewers because the telly tax money keeps rolling in:rolleyes:
DaVeyWaVey
26-12-2006, 22:37
I thought last nights was bad but omg tonights was 10 times worse. Who writes this rubbish. Obviously the worst of the Christmas soaps. So many brilliant potentials ruined by dire writing
I agree, it was really awful again tonight. Even worse than last night, i really couldn't care about the whole Li storyline, and Stacey and Max are just getting boring. Everyone acted like everything was normal when a person who had lived in the Square all her life had just died the following day. There was no atmosphere to suggest someone had just died, and there was not enough emotion. Ian and Martin didn't show enough emotion, no one really seemed to care. It was cringeworthy!
Why did Martin seem to not care?? Ian seemed more devastated at Paulines death that Martin did, yet it was his mother?! No matter what their problems may have been, she was still his mum.
I have to admit, the Xmas Day episodes, I Sky +'d and then went to the end, after having the "pleasure" of watching some cringeworthy stuff from Stacey and Max and not wanting to put myself through any more of it!, just to see Pauline fall to the ground and die.
Tonight though, I caught 15 mins and gave up again - like I said just now, and totally agreeing with you Davey - no feeling, no atmosphere of loss - nothing.
Richie_lecturer
26-12-2006, 23:42
Yes, Pauline has always been a miserable cow, but the one thing that Pauline NEVER did was turn her back on her family - no matter what. However, the scripte writers, in their finite wisdom, had Pauline do just that. Pauline turned her back on Martin - even taking back the stall. I just cannot see Pauline doing that. Running away to America, yes, but becoming so embittered against her son, no.
Totally rubbish and Wendy Richards deserved much better.
Well put, though actually, even going to America and giving up your lifelong home was very unlike Pauline as well. She was a sour old boot, but family right through into her veins. She would never hurt her family.
Welcome back btw. :)
Richie_lecturer
26-12-2006, 23:44
So not one person has answered my question.
Says it all really. Sarah is right about this place.
So why did you join it? :confused:
It's not upto me to decide Pauline's exit. I haven't applied for a job at Elstree and have no intention to.
I would have got rid of the snow for a start. :cool:
.:SpIcYsPy:.
27-12-2006, 09:48
Hi guys.. I got something to ask you..
How come Ian says he's got no family and mentions Mark and Michelle but never says he's got Martin? :searchme:
Come on you have to admit it is really weird there wasn't a trace of snow on that episode tonight and we all know that in reality if there was that much snow it wouldn't clear up like that so quickly :rolleyes:
Pathetic fallacy/symbolic code that everything is falling.
Hi guys.. I got something to ask you..
How come Ian says he's got no family and mentions Mark and Michelle but never says he's got Martin? :searchme:
I think it's because Martin's younger, or that he shared Pauline's opinions, because his Dad was her twin.
JustJodi
27-12-2006, 09:58
it was so spring like when Ian put those flowers on the bench , the night before it was snowing all of the sudden every thing is bright and dry and snowless,, go figure !!!!!!!!!Guess some one vaccumed up the fake snow too soon LOL
Xx-Vicky-xX
27-12-2006, 11:00
it was so spring like when Ian put those flowers on the bench , the night before it was snowing all of the sudden every thing is bright and dry and snowless,, go figure !!!!!!!!!Guess some one vaccumed up the fake snow too soon LOL
Yeah I agree it was really weird, i watched an old video at the weekend called happy 15th birthday Eastenders and a bloke on there was sprinkling leaves around the set because it was being filmed in september and it was meant to be november and he was saying you have to make it fit in with the time of year its meant to be, did they forget that rule then :searchme:
Yeah I agree it was really weird, i watched an old video at the weekend called happy 15th birthday Eastenders and a bloke on there was sprinkling leaves around the set because it was being filmed in september and it was meant to be november and he was saying you have to make it fit in with the time of year its meant to be, did they forget that rule then :searchme:
They must have thought that people would be so devastated about Pauline dying that they would forget. :rotfl:
Well put, though actually, even going to America and giving up your lifelong home was very unlike Pauline as well. She was a sour old boot, but family right through into her veins. She would never hurt her family.
Welcome back btw. :)
Thanks for the welcome back1:)
Is it any wonder so many of the cast are leaving? The writers are rubbish!
Richie_lecturer
27-12-2006, 18:50
Once Martin and Sonia leave there will only be seven characters left from pre-2000. That is shocking. If you took the seven longest serving stars in Corrie you would still only get as near as 1974!
They must have thought that people would be so devastated about Pauline dying that they would forget. :rotfl:
The only thing I was devastated about was Pauline's send-off. The snow hadn't just melted in about 8 hours, the ground was bone dry too! Unbelieveable!
Marie Atkinson
27-12-2006, 18:53
Once Martin and Sonia leave there will only be seven characters left from pre-2000. That is shocking. If you took the seven longest serving stars in Corrie you would still only get as near as 1974!
Actually its 9
Ian
Pat
Dot
Phil
Peggy
Lucy
Peter
Jim
Billy
Actually its 9
Ian
Pat
Dot
Phil
Peggy
Lucy
Peter
Jim
Billy
Phil and Peggy haven't been continous - and wasn't there a different Peggy? Not since I have been watching, but it seems as though there was a discussion aobut a different actress playing Peggy.
Also, isn't there a new actor playing Peter in the past few months?
littlemo
27-12-2006, 21:14
Quite a boring episode tonight, really!
I like Darren, he's so immature. How he'd think that Li would be interested in him, I don't know. I felt really sorry for him.
I am cringing at Stacey at the moment. I hate the nice as pie attitude towards Tanya. It kind of makes you sick doesn't it?! And Max is really annoying me. But I love the storyline!
So sad for Martin at the end of the episode.
Richie_lecturer
27-12-2006, 22:13
Phil and Peggy haven't been continous - and wasn't there a different Peggy? Not since I have been watching, but it seems as though there was a discussion aobut a different actress playing Peggy.
Also, isn't there a new actor playing Peter in the past few months?
Correct about Peter but I don't count the kids just yet. If Ian left, they would probably go with him.
Jo Warne played Peggy on several brief occasions between 1991-3, and was very good. Then Panto Babs took over full-time in 1994.
As for tonight, another contrived storyline with Sonia and Martin's mobile phone. So predictable.
Don't even get me started on the Darren/Li stuff. Dreadful.
The only good thing tonight was Dot. She was excellent.
CrazyLea
27-12-2006, 22:19
Oh, the Darren and Li stuff. That was so bad. I cringed for Darren so much.. and not in a good way.
As for tonight, another contrived storyline with Sonia and Martin's mobile phone. So predictable.
Don't even get me started on the Darren/Li stuff. Dreadful.
The only good thing tonight was Dot. She was excellent.
What do you mean by another contrived storyline? Sonia was dreading Martin finding out that she had been at his mother's house, especially now that she knows Rebecca saw her hit her grandmother. She thought Pauline was ringing to tell Martin that she had hit her. In fact, it was simply that Sonia had gotten through to Pauline and she was staying and apologising for her behaviour. It's called plot development.
June Brown was very good tonight. I enjoyed the Fowler/Branning bits, but Darren was unnecessary.
Xx-Vicky-xX
28-12-2006, 08:10
The only thing I was devastated about was Pauline's send-off. The snow hadn't just melted in about 8 hours, the ground was bone dry too! Unbelieveable!
Exactly what i meant before, for the amount that was there when she died, in reality if some of it had melted there would still be some there if not there would be traces of it such as wet floor or a little bit of slushy ice stuff but it didnt look like there had even been snow the night before :rotfl: i bet back in 2000 (when it was the 15th birthday of Easterenders and they sprinkled leaves on the floor) they would have remembered detail like that but practically 7 years on they can't even get that right.
Tracy Carter
28-12-2006, 10:24
Correct about Peter but I don't count the kids just yet. If Ian left, they would probably go with him.
Jo Warne played Peggy on several brief occasions between 1991-3, and was very good. Then Panto Babs took over full-time in 1994.
As for tonight, another contrived storyline with Sonia and Martin's mobile phone. So predictable.
Don't even get me started on the Darren/Li stuff. Dreadful.
The only good thing tonight was Dot. She was excellent.
You know everything what goes on yet you still claim never to watch on other forums
Why the lies Richie babe?
i thought that Last night was better. I mean at least Darren and Mickey added a bit of humour and it wasnt just tears and more tears. It was really sad though the phone message. I think rebeccas funny blanking Sonia.
Richie_lecturer
28-12-2006, 23:13
Correct about Peter but I don't count the kids just yet. If Ian left, they would probably go with him.
Jo Warne played Peggy on several brief occasions between 1991-3, and was very good. Then Panto Babs took over full-time in 1994.
As for tonight, another contrived storyline with Sonia and Martin's mobile phone. So predictable.
Don't even get me started on the Darren/Li stuff. Dreadful.
The only good thing tonight was Dot. She was excellent.
You know everything what goes on yet you still claim never to watch on other forums
Why the lies Richie babe?
Actually I think you will find I have publicly said that I stopped watching in March, watching only a handful of episodes from that point until November when the beginning of Growler's downfall began. I have been watching ever since, but unless it improves, I shall be turning off again very shortly, probably after the funeral is over, or until the fallout of Pauline's death clears away. No lies at all.
Richie_lecturer
28-12-2006, 23:41
As for tonight, another contrived storyline with Sonia and Martin's mobile phone. So predictable.
Don't even get me started on the Darren/Li stuff. Dreadful.
The only good thing tonight was Dot. She was excellent.
What do you mean by another contrived storyline? Sonia was dreading Martin finding out that she had been at his mother's house, especially now that she knows Rebecca saw her hit her grandmother. She thought Pauline was ringing to tell Martin that she had hit her. In fact, it was simply that Sonia had gotten through to Pauline and she was staying and apologising for her behaviour. It's called plot development.
Well it reminded me of those incidents where Mr A is desperately keen to tell Mr B a secret - "B, there's something I have to tell you", before they are interrupted at the last moment, only to find out from someone else accidentally or through witnessing the confession themselves. It wasn't the worst incident of this sort I'll grant you that, but I still felt they could have handled the situation in a better way. I don't like the way Sonia is being portrayed as evil in this either, when she's probably innocent.
Actually its 9
Ian
Pat
Dot
Phil
Peggy
Lucy
Peter
Jim
Billy
Phil and Peggy haven't been continous - and wasn't there a different Peggy? Not since I have been watching, but it seems as though there was a discussion aobut a different actress playing Peggy.
Also, isn't there a new actor playing Peter in the past few months?
Peter and Lucy change continuously, what with the actors/actresses still being at school.
Actually its 9
Ian
Pat
Dot
Phil
Peggy
Lucy
Peter
Jim
Billy
Phil and Peggy haven't been continous - and wasn't there a different Peggy? Not since I have been watching, but it seems as though there was a discussion aobut a different actress playing Peggy.
Also, isn't there a new actor playing Peter in the past few months?
Peter and Lucy change continuously, what with the actors/actresses still being at school.
How many time have theu changed. I know that Peter changed not that long ago but its been the same Lucy for ages now right?
x Amby x
29-12-2006, 17:18
i thought that last nights episode was quite good! Although i dont know how Stacey and Max got away with kissing right in the middle of the square without anyone seeing them?
May is annoying me! and im quite liking Dawn at the moment!
i thought that last nights episode was quite good! Although i dont know how Stacey and Max got away with kissing right in the middle of the square without anyone seeing them?
May is annoying me! and im quite liking Dawn at the moment!Lol I know but If everyone was inside then I suppose know one would relise.
CrazyLea
29-12-2006, 17:46
Especially as at the time they were all preoccupied with Joe. (So no one was looking out the window or anything)
Richie_lecturer
29-12-2006, 22:37
What was all that nonsense about at the Wicks' house?
Can you buy rice wine and special vodka in a little corner shop?
wooden Rob, May and Dawn of the dead storyline plods along tediously as ever....
That speech by Martin in the Vic was a bit hammy, but Joe and Dot were good tonight.
Good to see Lindy Henry in EE. Hope the scriptwriters come up with some imaginative stuff for her, for once. :rolleyes:
littlemo
29-12-2006, 23:12
The episode was o.k.
I am enjoying the Dawn stuff. :)
Stacey and Max are going away together, that's a bit full on isn't?!
Overall, not bad.
Glad the Wick's mum is coming back!
Dawns story is quite good actually. She should learn though deseration is not a good look. I think the Wicks stuff was quite funny it was a bit diferent, nice to see some smiling for once in Albert square. Im sure that will all change if Shirley gets her way though. I agree though Linda Henry is fab.
Well, more fool EE, they've now made Carly look like a complete dumbo, as she seems happy enough to believe that Dawn's plan to lure back Rob will be successful. So much for her being different, as her job role suggests.
Actually its 9
Ian
Pat
Dot
Phil
Peggy
Lucy
Peter
Jim
Billy
Phil and Peggy haven't been continous - and wasn't there a different Peggy? Not since I have been watching, but it seems as though there was a discussion aobut a different actress playing Peggy.
Also, isn't there a new actor playing Peter in the past few months?
Peter and Lucy change continuously, what with the actors/actresses still being at school.
How many time have theu changed. I know that Peter changed not that long ago but its been the same Lucy for ages now right?
There was Casey Ann Rothery who was in it for ages, another one, then the current one.
I Knew From The Start Caly Is A Dumb Blond And Will Believe Anything Dawn Says! I Find It Very Unlikely Rob Will Go Back To Her!
theres no way Rob will go back to Dawn. There making her sound so pathetic thinking her desperation look will make him want hyer over May. The scriptwriters have made it clear Rob loves May. As for Carly, i cant decide whether she was trying to be there for her mate, or actually believes the rubbish Dawn herself believes.
x Amby x
01-01-2007, 20:11
Phwoar! Joe Swash in a suit now thats what i like to see! :wub:
Chris_2k11
01-01-2007, 23:07
Tonight's episodes were really good. Linda Henry is brilliant as Shirley and I can't wait to see more of her :) Loved it when her and Denise had words! :cool: I thought it was good seeing a darker side to Kevin too. :ninja: The funeral scenes were decent aswell. Hopefully this will be a new start for EE.
Well, no wonder the police showed up, that funeral was like, the longest in EastEnders history! I felt so sorry for Rebecca, it's almost like she wants to hang on to Betty as a way of hanging onto Pauline. I don't think she actually knows that she was adopted, I think they told her that they were just like, both her parents, but that Margaret and Pauline were both her grandmothers.
She's lost her adoptive parents, 2 grans, and you may as well say her Mum as well, she looks so guilty. Especially the look on and focus upon her face when Pauline's cofin was going down to be cremated, and when it was acknowledged that the police were there.
I must be going mad, also, because I was actually sad at the end of EastEnders revealed.
Nigella harman
01-01-2007, 23:23
i thought tonights stuff was the best i have seen in ages.:clap:
littlemo
01-01-2007, 23:40
i thought tonights stuff was the best i have seen in ages.:clap:
Yeah it was good! I liked Pauline's funeral, and I thought Carly was great, (showing that she can be manipulative). I'm liking Shirley's character too, it's bringing out a more viscious side of Kevin. And to think that they were once married. He must have been quite a tearaway as a kid.
Sonia was a desperate woman wasn't she. It was horrible calling her own daughter a liar. Dot can see the truth though. She's very intuative.
Rebecca's sweet. I think Sonia could have admitted the truth at the beginning. What did she actually do?! Slapped her, knocked over her fruit bowl. I'm sure Pauline has had worst blows in the past.
I don't think that what Sonia did caused Pauline's death. There must have been more to it.
*-Rooney-*
02-01-2007, 00:25
i cant believe that dot left the funeral to go to the police then return just a little before the police arrived, how could she do that to sonia?
because she thinks she killed her best friend. I thought the funeral scenes were alright. Shirley and Kevin were the best bit of last nights two visits.
I liked it when Ian said, im now head of the family.
Dutchgirl
02-01-2007, 12:34
Loved Eastenders revealed, it had me in tears! Wendy is such a great actress and a nice personality.
Loved the Carly Shirly bit, they do look alike, good casting there.
The funeral, when they closed the curtains I had tears in my eyes again!!
Joe is not being treated fairly by Martin, I do understand Martin's reaction in the pub, but Joe is hurting as well. Pauline was so bitter towards the end.
Oh by the way where has Pat gone off to?
DaVeyWaVey
02-01-2007, 13:18
I must say that last night, Eastenders was fantastic! After Pauline's abysmal death, i really enjoyed last night's episode. I found Pauline's funeral very sad, especially when Martin did his speech and was crying, James Alexandrou is a very good actor. I wish Pauline's death was as sad as her funeral.
Shirley Wicks is wonderful! I loved her scenes last night with Carly and her together, her and Kevin arguing in the toilets and her scene with Denise. Shirley Wicks has definetly lived up to my expectations, and it was good to see a darker more serious side to Kevin. A good start to 2007!
For the first time in a long time I had the feeling Eastenders could be improving. Last nights two offerings were very enjoyable. Shirley and Kevin stole the show, Linda Henry is a fabuluous actress, I hope she's in it full time. The episodes were full of drama and emotion from Pauline's funeral, and we had a true Eastenders style cliffhanger with the police turning up.
A VERY promising start to 2007, let's hope they can keep it up :)
Xx-Vicky-xX
02-01-2007, 13:39
The episodes were quite good - i got a bit bored though but i wasnt really paying attention to be honest
x Amby x
02-01-2007, 14:31
That episode was really good i liked it the stuff with Carly/Shirley/Kevin! Its nice that Carly had a big part in an episode! lol Paulines funeral was good! BLess little Rebecca! She was really good!
I agree about Carly i really like her and her character. I also like the normal family things like ehouting for the shower at the Wicks in the morning. It reminded we of our house getting ready to leave the house in the morning.
Richie_lecturer
02-01-2007, 15:34
we had a true Eastenders style cliffhanger with the police turning up.
And a very stupid cliffhanger as well. The entire fallout of Pauline's death, and the funeral itself has been absolutely pathetic. No way would what happened last night happen in real life, re. the police turning up, no proper post-mortem. Awful.
The episode was well written and not bad to watch, but the continuity and scriptwriting knocked lumps out of the episodes.
Also Phil Daniels was so OTT last night. My word, he used to be a good actor (Quadrophelia etc). What happened?
babyblue
02-01-2007, 15:41
her death left me underwhelmed but her funeral was much better, there was some emotion there.
Richie_lecturer
02-01-2007, 15:45
It was emotional yes and highly charged, but the ridiculous way they have gone about Pauline's death with the policemen et al was the equivalent of throwing water over a fire.
babyblue
02-01-2007, 16:52
that is very true, the end turned out to be a damp squib. It would have been much better if they could have just left her ending as the curtains closing on pauline. It would have been much more poignant but they took away from it which is a shame.
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