Current Episode Discussion IV

[parkerman]

"How did Alfie (and Jake?) pay foe the funeral?
They said they would cater for free.."

Yes, but the funeral itself would have cost thousands of pounds.

And Nana was not Jake's nana. Perhaps that's why people felt sorry for Alfie who is her grandson and also surrogate mother.

[Richie_lecturer]

Maybe they felt Sorry for Alfie because he wasn't the one who was going to be six foot under by the end of the day. We all wish he was of course.

If everyone in Walford paid for it, where did they all get the money from? If Darren Miller didn't pay for it with his stash, nobody else would be able to afford it. The people in the Square who are lucky enough to have jobs, have naff ones like Rosie the cleaner.

Questions questions.....

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Im sure they have money and they are not that poor.. besides this is EE... it has alot of quesitons and some of them are answered quickly.. like your first two.

[Dutchgirl]

Im sure they have money and they are not that poor.. besides this is EE... it has alot of quesitons and some of them are answered quickly.. like your first two.
Isn't here anything called funeral insurance in britain?

[Debs]

how did they pay for the funeral?

nana organised it all before she died didnt she?

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Isn't here anything called funeral insurance in britain?
Erm... not sure?! :searchme:

Yeah, she could have Debs!!

[Debs]

awww i cried agian tonight!

poor jake being ignored

[BlackKat]

awww i cried agian tonight!

poor jake being ignored

Dawn certainly wasn't ignoring him, :lol:

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

awww i cried agian tonight!

poor jake being ignored
I didn't cry.. Only when she did die I cried but I didn't find the funeral upsetting.. like THAT upsetting.. instead I found it sweet!! :heart:

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Dawn certainly wasn't ignoring him, :lol:
Lmao!! :rotfl: She sure weren't..

Allow flirting at a funeral party thing :p

[DaVeyWaVey]

Well i thought tonights episode was really good :) I definetly had a tear in my eye when Alfie read the speech :( and Kat is doing the right thing by supporting Alfie. They really do belong together :) I felt sorry for Ruby tonight as well because she has no idea about Phil and Juleys scam. Also i am glad that Sonia is moving out of Martin's house. Hopefully this will signal the end of their marriage :rolleyes:

[Kim]

So do I but I don't think it will.

[Jada-GDR]

Like blowing up Peggy Mitchell.
NEVER! :mad:
it would certaintly add a bit of interest though lol

[Richie_lecturer]

Shame Darren Miller didn't sneak up behind the funeral hearse and rearrange the floral letters on the coffin. He could have rearranged N A N A for N A A N. Or he could have found a couple of spare letters hanging around and made it B A N A N A . :cool:

[sarah21]

I can't believe that Dawn hit on a man who was at his nan's funeral. What a selfish woman, so up herself she is unreal. A complete replacement for Zoe.

Juley has obviously fallen for Ruby but please, enough!

Alfie was quite sweet tonight, the speech was good but the hightlight for me was Sonia and Martin. This marriage breakdown is so realistic. All they need to do is sit down and communicate properly but in this situation they take the hump and say things that they will regret later. Brilliant. This couple have a great chemistry when they have something to work with and it helps that they are both very good actors.

And before you think I've lost the plot, the guy in the Guardian also said how with this storyline, EE have finally returned to it's realistic roots. :cheer:

[Chris_2k11]

Shame Darren Miller didn't sneak up behind the funeral hearse and rearrange the floral letters on the coffin. He could have rearranged N A N A for N A A N. Or he could have found a couple of spare letters hanging around and made it B A N A N A . :cool: :confused:

[one eyed pete]

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr any pirates in tonights

[No_eyed_Ned]

:confused:

if hed found a few more letters he coulddve said
"HAAAAAAAAR!!!!"

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr any pirates in tonights
Please don't be silly because you get told..

[parkerman]

Tonoght's questions
1. Why did Juley go to the Queen Vic?
2. Why didn't Ruby see him in there?
3. Where does Phil get his endless supply of money from?

[BlackKat]

Dear Sonia,
You know, it's great you've got this whole college thing going on. Really, all power to you. However, it is not the only path in life, and just because it's the one you want doesn't mean everyone wants it. You married Martin, a barrow boy from Walford. Don't then expect him to change into something else. If you wanted someone that wanted the same things from life that you do, then you should have married someone who did.

However, if anybody had burnt my books I'd have given them a lot more than a slap, so well done on the self-restraint.

Oh, and can you try and be a little more interesting. Pass that message onto your husband...or estranged husband I guess now, whatever you want to call it. You are not however as annoying as Ruby, so...um...well done on that I suppose.

Tootles,
BlackKat



Hi, Ruby? No, it does take your "man" a couple of beers in order from him to lose his self-respect. That usually requires having self-respect. But then you don't know much about that do you. Twit.

[BlackKat]

3. Where does Phil get his endless supply of money from?

The same place he got the money to buy the Vic and the Arches. Possibly the same place that imaginary 20k of Chrissie's appeared from. Bet Gus wishes he knew the secret password, ;) :lol:

[DaVeyWaVey]

Good episode. Sonia should stand by Martin :) and i hate Johnny even more after watching this episode :mad:

[shannisrules]

did anyone notice demi has grown a fringe

[littlemo]

Tonoght's questions
1. Why did Juley go to the Queen Vic?
2. Why didn't Ruby see him in there?
3. Where does Phil get his endless supply of money from?

Very good questions. That Juley thing really got me too, very confusing. Phil asked him to go to the Vic with Ruby, and Johnny told him to stay away from her. So he goes to Vic and avoids her to stay on both their good sides. I can only assume he went to the toilet and somehow tried to sneak out.

Sad about Martin and Sonia, although they have survived a lot longer than people may have thought. I didn't like Pauline bringing Rebecca home for Christmas, it's not the ideal situation when Martin and Sonia are having problems, and she knew that they were. You can't use a child to bring two people closer together. Whatever Martin and Sonia feel for Rebecca is nothing to do with what they feel for each other. They need to sort themselves out first before they bring their daughter into it.

[Layne]

The same place he got the money to buy the Vic and the Arches. Possibly the same place that imaginary 20k of Chrissie's appeared from. Bet Gus wishes he knew the secret password, ;) :lol:


:lol: too true!
Tonights eppi was ok i guess! Johnny is getting on my nerves though!!!
And ruby is starting to annoy me too!

[DaVeyWaVey]

I noticed Demi grown a fringe :) and i agree with you littlemo that Pauline has made the situation worse by bringing Rebecca into Sonia and Martin's troubles. Like you said they must sort out their own problems before bringing Rebecca back into their lives. Does anyone actually think though that Sonia and Martin can get over their troubles and that their marriage can survive?

[Abbie]

Tonoght's questions
1. Why did Juley go to the Queen Vic?
2. Why didn't Ruby see him in there?
3. Where does Phil get his endless supply of money from?lol phil always has a enless suplly of money

[littlemo]

I noticed Demi grown a fringe :) and i agree with you littlemo that Pauline has made the situation worse by bringing Rebecca into Sonia and Martin's troubles. Like you said they must sort out their own problems before bringing Rebecca back into their lives. Does anyone actually think though that Sonia and Martin can get over their troubles and that their marriage can survive?

It's difficult to say if Sonia and Martin could work out their troubles or not. I think Sonia needs to accept Martin for who he is, and not try to change him. If she can't do that then obviously she doesn't care about him as much as she should.

What Sonia says about needing to grow is right, you need to experience things in life, but she decided to get married. She got her daughter adopted and then a few years down the line wed her baby's father. When she gave Rebecca up for adoption, she wanted a better life for herself and her baby. But then she went and put herself in that constrictive environment again. It's like she doesn't know what to do with her freedom when she's got it.

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

did anyone notice demi has grown a fringe
Yeah I did!! + Jane did something new to her hair!!..

[BlackKat]

Then when she was saying she doesn't want to lose him. Er...what? Either she loves him for who he is, or she doesn't. "I do love him, I just want to change this that and the other about him." Doesn't work like that.

[DaVeyWaVey]

Then when she was saying she doesn't want to lose him. Er...what? Either she loves him for who he is, or she doesn't. "I do love him, I just want to change this that and the other about him." Doesn't work like that.

I know that was pretty stupid coming from Sonia. I don't blame Martin for feeling confused and angry. Sonia is the one acting weird. Jane's new hair looked cool. :cool:

[littlemo]

I forgot to mention Billy and Little Mo, it was only a snippet but it was quite significant. Little Mo asked him for Christmas dinner, and Billy said no thanks I'm spending it with my family.

I bet Little Mo thought it was a real slap in the face. I think it was the final nail in the coffin. If Honey and Billy's relationship is what Charlie thinks it is, just something he needs to go through, a casual thing, she can reside herself with the fact she has a chance with him. But the fact that he doesn't even see Little Mo and Freddie as importnant enough to spend a little bit of Christmas day with sends out a very clear message.

I'm not saying Billy is wrong to spend it with his family, clearly he has the right to move on with his life as he chooses. I just thought about how Little Mo must feel.

[crazygirl]

where does phil get all his mony from??

[Dutchgirl]

Tonoght's questions
1. Why did Juley go to the Queen Vic?
2. Why didn't Ruby see him in there?
3. Where does Phil get his endless supply of money from?

I was wondering the same thing.
Loved Alfie and Kat though, that pink hat is something else!

Rebecca cannot be thrown in like this, she will sense the animosity between Martin an Sonia , it just is not right.

[JustJodi]

Parkerman,, remember that infamous bank in the BLACKHOLE OF WALFORD,, you reach in and you get a doody load of moola,, But only Phil knows where the secret entrance is to that black hole bank :rotfl: :rotfl:
Does any one notice how Ruby uses her eyes ?? In the 20's during the silent films.. all the actors and actresses were hired for their very expressive faces and the use of their eyes,, Ruby would NOT have made the cut back then,, :lol: Sorry Ruby lovers, but she is totally doing my head in..
I think Stacy is the best of the two,, :cool:

[BlackKat]

So, what Jodi...are you saying that continually hunching her shoulders and rolling her eyes as though she's about to go into a fit don't give you insight in Ruby's inner turmoil...and whatever else that I don't care about because oh god I hate this character so much just kill her kill her now please god!

:lol:

[DaVeyWaVey]

where does phil get all his mony from??

I don't know. It's not like he has won the lottery or anything :rolleyes:

[Richie_lecturer]

I thought he got it through his beetroot growing business.

[DaVeyWaVey]

Lol! :D

[parkerman]

I thought he got it through his beetroot growing business.

I thought it was just his face that looked like a beetroot...

[Dutchgirl]

I thought it was just his face that looked like a beetroot...
:rotfl:

[Richie_lecturer]

I thought it was just his face that looked like a beetroot...

I thought it was the rest of his body too. Still, Phil/Steve is no stranger to dogging, sorry dodging allegations.....

[shannisrules]

cant wait fpor tonights episode should be good

[Dutchgirl]

Have to tape it, its the same time as 24 in the Netherlands.

[shannisrules]

its also on at the same time as the x factor the winners story which is shayne so im going to tape that and watch eastenders

[Dutchgirl]

its also on at the same time as the x factor the winners story which is shayne so im going to tape that and watch eastenders
Would like to watch EE but I like 24 very much as well, my husband is not into EE so i have to compromise, christmas is about loving each other isn't it?:heart: :wub:

[Timalay]

I got to tell you that was the bwst thing said in EE all year.

Father: I keep telling you Darren your not a Darlek

[shannisrules]

good episode tonight so dennis did live to see it when sharon found out she was pregnant bring on mondays eppi! fab eppisode

[Jessie Wallace]

Yat they left together,

[tiffani1998]

i was in tear of joy with tonights episode with kat/alfie and sharon/dennis

its just a pity sharons happiness wont last into the new year with dennis going

and i was laughing at mo and the giant frozen turkey lol

[BlackKat]

Anybody else think that Joe is a bit of a psychopath. He just snapped at Martin and went off on him then Jim came over and he was as nice as anything. He sounded quite sinister, even if what he was saying was just a normal bollocking.

I didn't really like the end Sharon and Dennis scene -- I like Dennis, even if I don't like Sharon, and I don't mind the couple, but it just felt like they were playing the audience (re: spoilers). I just know they'll stop just short of having Dennis giving a monologue ending with "I want to live, oh! I want to live." *bang*

Good episode though. Wanted to kill Little Mo. Shut up about happy endings. I get the "theme" already...just shut up. Everytime Kat turned around she was there "Happy endings!"

And Ruby was not quite as annoying...Dear god, it's a Christmas miracle!

The best part though was the return of Jake's scarf. Oh, how I've missed it. :lol:

[Richie_lecturer]

Oh my word, that was absolutely dire. :mad:

Considering this was written by the dream-ticket of Sarah Phelps and Tony Jordan, I expected so much more from them but they totally failed to deliver.

Most of it was just pure cheese. Alfie waiting outside in his car for Kat was pure Wensleydale. Lil Mo's contributions made it all the more worse (and can she please take legal action against her hairdresser!). Did Kat take her suitcase with her as she left? I swear it was still at the Slaters. Also how could Alfie get his car over to America on 80 quid? Also I thought both A & K had a criminal record, so how could they cross the Atlantic? :searchme: Fortunately it's the end of an awful storyline and an awful couple of characters (imo). Hopefully EE can move on from this.

Sadly if judging by the rest of the episode is anything to go by, then no it won't. Sonia and Martin was quite realistic, though I find it hard to believe the way in which they were subverted by the presence of Rebecca. Is she the Omen child or something? There were other gripes I had with this bit, but I'll explain those when I sober up. :o

Sharon and Dennis was incredibly annoying as usual. Mr plywood is another person I will be glad to see the back of in a few days. How can Salmon just 3 days out of date be the cause of food poisoning? Unless Dennis cooked it really badly (not implied in the episode) it would be absolutely harmless. I've often eaten out of date fresh food over a week past its sell by date and it has done me no harm at all.

The Millers, Fowlers and Mitchells were all very annoying as well.

Big Mo defrosting the turkey - zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Speaking of Big Mo, did Kat say goodbye to Charlie and Big Mo? I may have missed that as my annoying toddler cousin ran around our living room switching the TV off. :rolleyes: :mad:

As for the adults (and I use that word loosely), purrleazzeee. :rolleyes:

Very poor. A friend of mine declared to me the other day (she like me has watched it through the start and through the Berridge days) that this would be the last episode she watches tonight for a long time. What an awful sendoff. :( This was almost as bad as the xmas episode where Jamie popped his clogs.

Very bad indeed.

3/10

[littlemo]

I love that Dennis and Sharon are going to have a baby! I didn't know it was today they were going to announce it! The spoilers i've read said that Sharon was going to tell Dennis she wanted to adopt, and I assumed the pregnancy thing would come out after Dennis died, they kept that very hush hush. I only knew it was going to come out at the end of episode as it got into it, they dragged that hospital thing out for ages. And I thought it was going to be a quick in and out. So that's how I knew that tonight was the night.

Nice that Alfie came back for her, I knew it was going to happen but it was very sweet. It was a bit twee with it being a white Christmas again but I suppose they did that to remind us of how it was snowing when they got married.

Billy's got it bad for Honey hasn't he! It was quite funny when he was going on and on about her, and Phil was sitting there in a mood because he couldn't speak to Ben. I felt like saying to Billy, being a 'real Mitchell' isn't what it's cracked up to be. Phil thinks he so much better than anybody else, but he's never happy. He just likes making people miserable.

[wweisben]

I had to cry lol Kat & Alfie my 2 best , Kat more since she arrived all them years ao she has become very big (Alfie & Kat both said on radio they will make returns in the future once they try a few other things out they were when and they both said give it 2 years)

[alan45]

What a load of old tosh was DEADENDERS tonight. Two of EE's top writers couldnt make a decent episode so there seems to be little hope that it will improve in the forseeable future. Still we can look forward to the imminent departure of Dennis Plankman

[Richie_lecturer]

Julia Smith would have turned in her grave at tonight's episode.

[alan45]

Julia Smith would have turned in her grave at tonight's episode.

Pity they couldnt do a dirty Den on her and raise her from the dead

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

You can never believe what happened to me... I missed EE!! :eek: The Christmas Special :eek:... I was SOOOOO upset!! I woke up during the middle of the night and was like OMFG I missed EE :eek:... I got some catching up to do at 12.45..

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Sadly, Kat wipes away her make-up before leaving the pub. Outside, Alfie's waiting for her. He declares that it's time for her to honour Nana's wish. He whisks her off her feet and they drive away to their future together.
I missed this :|... Omg!! :eek:... I hope they show the Xmas Episode at 12.45..

[Dutchgirl]

Well I think a christmas episode should be cheesy, if you want anything else you should not watch. I just loved it. kat and Alfie yeay, and for Sharon and Dennis, the moment was perfect. Good on you.

[Kim]

Bit of an unrealistic departure for Kat, she didn't take any shoes or luggage with her!

[*kalfie*moon*]

awww i loved the Christmas eppi it was really good! Kat and Alfie left together yay!! I'm going to miss them :( :) Especially Kat shes the best!

[bubblegum_fairy]

It actually me cry at the end

[feelingyellow]

i thought their exit would be better to be trueful - is was all fab but then when he was outside the car it was like 5 seconds we're gone - bit longer would have been nice :) that was my only problem with the episode, well apart from having to contineously look at mo's nest - even her little fairytale thing was good!

[JustJodi]

wait a min wait a min,,,,,,,, EE GAVE US A HAPPY ENDING FOR CHRISTMAS :eek: :eek: :eek: No one died !!! No one was evicted from their homes,, etc,, Whoaaaaaaaaa How about that !!!!!!:cheer:
Ok some of it may have been just a bit cheesy and un realistic, but hey hey it was all good !!!!!:)

[Richie_lecturer]

[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][size=4][color=red]wait a min wait a min,,,,,,,, EE GAVE US A HAPPY ENDING FOR CHRISTMAS

That's right. They got rid of two annoying characters, one in particular. That at least raised half a smile in my household. :)

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Omg!! I just watched EE episode!! The way the Shannis annoncement was annonced was great!! Im soo happy for them!! :D.. Kalfie forever I see!! Possibly the 1ST Happy couple forever!! I hope soemone got caps for that Shannis and Kalfie bit!!

I personally think they showed too much of Martin and Sonia and ruined it!! Bad bad bad!!... :angry:

I loved the way Billy was going on about Honey to Phil and he just bellowes RIGHTT!! and he made a run for it :rotfl:...

[parkerman]

Have you noticed that James Alexandrou has two acting styles?

1. Angry
2. VERY ANGRY

[feelingyellow]

Have you noticed that James Alexandrou has two acting styles?

1. Angry
2. VERY ANGRY

:rotfl: he has aswell!

[Richie_lecturer]

Well that's what selling artichokes day in day out does for you.

Though recently Sonia has been partial to a bit of melon.......

[Tamzi]

Someone else made a comment a few pages back, the best bit was the Dalek comment! oh and when the drunk ran into the christmas tree!
How is it possible to get to America on £83? Where was Kat's luggage? Doesn't she need shoes? It was as when Kareesha (?) left without a suitcase and went in the ferraira's tiny little car?It is sweet Sharon is having a kid, but how likely is it? She has been told a million times she can't have kids. hhmmm.
Not a brilliant christmas episode.
xxx

[Richie_lecturer]

How is it possible to get to America on £83? Where was Kat's luggage? Doesn't she need shoes?

Yes I mentioned that last night.


It was as when Kareesha (?) left without a suitcase and went in the ferraira's tiny little car?
Without a clean pair of knickers, yes. :rolleyes:

This wasn't Rob Gittens writing the episode this time though. It was the masters Tony Jordan and Sarah Phelps. Dear oh dear. :rolleyes:

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Kareena you mean :rotfl:

[feelingyellow]

Kareena you mean :rotfl:

damn it! you beat me too it! i wanted to say it! :p

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

I think they could have let Kat forget her suitcase in depression.. and it would have been there!! And if Mo asked then she could have said I'll get it later.. and when they showed her leaving the suitcase she could have sort of hid it if someone was going to say but 'children' would have taken it..

[shannisrules]

awww bless dennis he was worried about becoming a dad he would make a fantastic dad he'd be so caring and loving it would be great to see

[*kalfie*moon*]

It actually me cry at the end
me too!!

[Richie_lecturer]

Kareena you mean :rotfl:

That's it, played by Poojah Pants.

[baileya]

Good episode tonight. Phil is nasty not letting Juley get on with his relationship with Ruby. Watch out Dennis its going to be a bad week.

[feelingyellow]

That's it, played by Poojah Pants.

:rotfl: I swear it was Pooja Shah!

[BlackKat]

Why, when Dennis must know what Johnny is capable of is he insisting on riling him. He must have some idea that Johnny was behind Andy's death, and even if he doesn't, he knew who Johnny was when he came back and thanks to Peggy the entire square knows what Johnny's reputation is. It's so stupid -- not even on Dennis' part, but on the writers part that we're expected to believe that Dennis would risk his life, Sharon's life, his baby's life, just for some macho pissing contest. :rolleyes:

Oh, and what are we going to get tomorrow? Johnny in the stocks with the entire square throwing wet sponges at him, while Ruby the Spoilt Brat stands in the background, shoulders hunched and her eyes rolling all over the place.

It was an enjoyable episode, but this whole Dennis/Johnny conflict just pops out of nowhere and has seemingly replaced Dennis's brain. Oh, and I know I say this every episode, but Ruby needs to get off my screen now kthnxbye. She is just a horribly selfish girl, because, Hi, Ruby, Stacey isn't your babysitter, she doesn't cease to exist if you don't have a problem you're too stupid to solve yourself, and she isn't just there to agree with whatever mood you've decided to be in that day. Urgh! Are we supposed to hate this character?? We must do, because I find nothing sympathetic about her. Even with characters like Sonia or Sharon I can see what people would like about them. I don't myself, but I can see why someone else would. Nothing like this with Ruby. Yes, what Phil and Juley have done is vile -- but that doesn't change anything about her personality, which for the last two months has displayed absolutely no likable characteristics.

[Johnny Allen]

Not a bad episode but why EE do you have to make all the villians have a downfall, Johnny falling into the cake. Anyway Billy Murray once again played it very well, him and Lacey Turner are the best on screen when their sarcastic to each other.

[feelingyellow]

Stacey and Johnny :rotfl: Loved it - we should see that more often!!
Since when has Juley loved Ruby and cared about her? I remember a couple of weeks ago when we found out about Juley and Phil and there evil plan, but I never remember him saying he loves her! Please let Juley and Johnny get into a fight which ends up with them both killing the other some how.
Sharon and Dennis ... aww :wub:

[alan45]

:ninja:
It actually me cry at the end

Me too but not for the same reason as you I suspect :ninja:

[Richie_lecturer]

Were you slicing onions then as usual?

[alan45]

Crying with the pain of the crap that was EE

[Jessie Wallace]

Alan my sweet, why does you actually watch it?
Although, i may miss your sometimes comical comment's if you didn't!

[Richie_lecturer]

Thought you'd left EE Jessie? :searchme:

[Jessie Wallace]

Thought you'd left EE Jessie? :searchme:

Lol. Kat has, not be i'm afraid, you can't get rid of me that easily!!!

[Richie_lecturer]

Well I'm glad you dragged Shane Richie out of Albert Square kicking and screaming. :)

[Jessie Wallace]

I'm really sorry, but he has said that he'll be back. Maybe i'll talk to him for ya! Remind him you know of some hit men in his area!! lol

[Richie_lecturer]

Oh please do. I hope they'll be armed with anthrax samples. Shane might play down the risk upon contact, thinking it's Daz again.

[feelingyellow]

Were you slicing onions then as usual?


Crying with the pain of the crap that was EE

you two really are the opinonated yet eviley hilarious twins aren't you :p

[littlemo]

[QUOTE=BlackKat]Why, when Dennis must know what Johnny is capable of is he insisting on riling him. He must have some idea that Johnny was behind Andy's death, and even if he doesn't, he knew who Johnny was when he came back and thanks to Peggy the entire square knows what Johnny's reputation is. It's so stupid -- not even on Dennis' part, but on the writers part that we're expected to believe that Dennis would risk his life, Sharon's life, his baby's life, just for some macho pissing contest. :rolleyes:

I agree, I don't think Dennis would try to get into anything with Johnny, not now when he's happily married to Sharon and is going to have a baby. The stuff with Ruby and Juley isn't his problem, I don't see why he needs to get involved. With any normal person, somebody's daughter having a boyfriend wouldn't lead to a life and death kind of situation, Johnny is being completely over the top. What exactly have Dennis and Sharon supposed to have done? they've had a few conversations with Ruby in passing, like anybody would do.
Johnny is having a go at them for no reason whatsoever, and Dennis should just ignore him.

The thing with Dennis is, he won't see anybody he likes be yelled at. He doesn't care who's doing the yelling, he won't stand for it. He needs to be seen to be doing something.

[Richie_lecturer]

No. We are the Cramp twins. I'm the odd blue one.

[Richie_lecturer]

Why would a murderous hardman in Johnny Allen be scared by Stacey Slater Ice Skater. A real hardman would smash her kneecaps after being pushed over. What a wuss. :rolleyes:

[feelingyellow]

No. We are the Cramp twins. I'm the odd blue one.

lmao - that makes sense :p What's his name lol

[Richie_lecturer]

No idea. I put it on for my little daughter. I have no interest in the programme at all. It was just an observation. :)

[feelingyellow]

No idea. I put it on for my little daughter. I have no interest in the programme at all. It was just an observation. :)

lol, ok - and have googled it wayne! and alan is lucien! Yay! :cheer:

P.S. I have watched this a couple of times (only a couple :rolleyes: ) and like wayne better - simply because lucien's voice annoys me, lol

[Jessie Wallace]

lol, ok - and have googled it wayne! and alan is lucien! Yay! :cheer:

P.S. I have watched this a couple of times (only a couple :rolleyes: ) and like wayne better - simply because lucien's voice annoys me, lol

I worry about you sometimes Emmie

[feelingyellow]

I worry about you sometimes Emmie

i really wish i could say that is the first time i've heard that.

and why?? :p

[Richie_lecturer]

Thanks, and thanks for clarifying that for me. :)

Now, back to EE.......

92 hours and counting until Mr Plywood turns into casual timber. :cheer:

[feelingyellow]

Thanks, and thanks for clarifying that for me. :)

Now, back to EE.......

92 hours and counting until Mr Plywood turns into casual timber. :cheer:

Hehe, it ok :D

and I swear he was pinewood :p

[Jessie Wallace]

Ok my question to Alan can also go to you Richie hun.
Why do you actually watch it?
Even tho like Alan, i may miss your sometimes comical comment's if you didn't watch it!

[Richie_lecturer]

No, that's a film studio in Middlesex. :)

[Richie_lecturer]

Ok my question to Alan can also go to you Richie hun.
Why do you actually watch it?
Even tho like Alan, i may miss your sometimes comical comment's if you didn't watch it!

In the hope that it improves.

I look forward to the arrival of Phil Daniels soon and the return of Pat to the centrefold.


I always live in hope. :)

[Jessie Wallace]

Oh please tell me your jokin Richie, you actually want Pat back in the thick of the show, Erm...... why?
Oh i'm not sure who is more annoying her or Pauline. Pat's earing are more exciting than her, and Betty the dog is more exciting than Pauline.

[feelingyellow]

No, that's a film studio in Middlesex. :)

ah thanks that makes sense :)

[Richie_lecturer]

Agree with you about Pauline (Wendy Richard can't act at all either), but not Pat. Pat's great. Long live Pat and her earrings! :cheer:

[feelingyellow]

Too true about Pauline, Betty is just fabolous! I love that dog!! :D

[Jessie Wallace]

Agree with you about Pauline (Wendy Richard can't act at all either), but not Pat. Pat's great. Long live Pat and her earrings! :cheer:

No please no, i'll do anything, but not the earings.

[Richie_lecturer]

Pat's earrings outact most of the EE cast these days.


Too true about Pauline, Betty is just fabolous! I love that dog!! :D

Shame it's parallysed below the waist.

[feelingyellow]

Shame it's parallysed below the waist.

??? Am dumb, sorry lol

[Richie_lecturer]

It doesn't walk.

Maybe it needs Stanna Stairlifts for dogs.

[feelingyellow]

It doesn't walk.

Maybe it needs Stanna Stairlifts for dogs.

ah right thanks and yeah it's a shame that's it always being squeezed by pauline! stairlifts :rotfl:

[Richie_lecturer]

Now I know why Arfur decided to shift his mortal coil a decade ago. If it's not been hit over the head by a frying pan it's been squeezed into the shape of Pauline's fruit bowl.

I hope Mr Benn doesn't follow the same fate. Maybe he can take her into a magic changing room with an entrance straight into a lion's mouth. :cool:

[feelingyellow]

Now I know why Arfur decided to shift his mortal coil a decade ago. If it's not been hit over the head by a frying pan it's been squeezed into the shape of Pauline's fruit bowl.

I hope Mr Benn doesn't follow the same fate. Maybe he can take her into a magic changing room with an entrance straight into a lion's mouth. :cool:

:lol: great idea!! that will go on the list of 1001 ways to get rid of pauline fowler

[Chris_2k11]

Well, it's not often you'll hear me say this about EE, but for a xmas day episode I thought it was very poor. We all know EE hasn't been as good as it used to be... erm... lately, but I didn't think the xmas day episode would fail to impress me :eek: The way Kat just flew off in the car was pathetic! Why didn't she say goodbye to anyone? :searchme: Would she have had her passport on her? :searchme: Where were her belongings? :searchme: Very silly indeed :thumbsdow Sharon & Dennis were plain boring down the hospital. Would I really want to see her throwing up for the majority of the episode? No thanks! :moonie: The rest of the episode was quite a yawnfest too. Millers, Fowlers, Ruby, Johnny, Juley, Honey, Billy - boring! :nono: Overall, a very bad episode I thought, and considering it was the xmas day one makes it even worse :( Oh and I missed the Boxing Day episode so I can't comment on that.

[Richie_lecturer]

I share your disappointment Birks.

I didn't like last night's episode either. Then again it was written by Rob Gittens. :rolleyes:

[Chris_2k11]

Did anything interesting happen last night Richie? And did the Slaters say anything about Kat leaving so fast? :searchme:

[Richie_lecturer]

No idea. I only saw the last 5 minutes as I fell asleep and missed all of Emmerdale/Corrie panto/1st episode (:(). Just saw Stacey push over Johnny at Shannis's party.

See www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/ and go to Latest Episode for full details.

:)

[Chris_2k11]

Thanks i'll take a look :) Might try and catch the omnibus too.

[Joanne]

So Sharon is suffering badly on Christmas Day due to her pregnancy - sickness, giddyness etc, all common symptoms I know. As soon as she's told the reason for her discomfort - DING all of her symptoms disappear! She's now absolutely radiant and throwing a party instead of throwing up.

[Dutchgirl]

So Sharon is suffering badly on Christmas Day due to her pregnancy - sickness, giddyness etc, all common symptoms I know. As soon as she's told the reason for her discomfort - DING all of her symptoms disappear! She's now absolutely radiant and throwing a party instead of throwing up.

Mmmm, was wandering the same thing. Ah well one of those EE mysteries.
Phil is so evil and Johnny saying do not pitty me. He looked a right old Dath Vader there, but without the James Earl Jones voice.:rotfl:

[parkerman]

I've only just caught up with this so a lot of what I was going to say/ask has already been said/asked. Particularly about Kat and her passport....
However, just one point regarding Dennis and Johnny. Does Dennis know or strongly suspect that it was Johnny who killed his friend Andy? Is that why he is so in his face all the time? Or is he just being 'ard!?

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

I might as well miss all the episodes and catch it on Sunday.. knowing my memory I will probably miss Sunday too :rotfl:..I will make sure I catch it now :).. or try too..

[Richie_lecturer]

However, just one point regarding Dennis and Johnny. Does Dennis know or strongly suspect that it was Johnny who killed his friend Andy? Is that why he is so in his face all the time? Or is he just being 'ard!?

AFAIK he doesn't know still about Andy. He's just sticking up for Ruby, like in real life he'd ever give a **** about her. :rolleyes:

[Johnny Allen]

Dennis tries to be hard but really he's not.

[Dutchgirl]

OMG Sharon was so scared and now she told Johnny, the vile swine:angry:

[BlackKat]

Good scene at the end there with Sharon and Johnny. Liked the way they had Johnny almost giving Sharon and Dennis a chance to get out - nice way to keep the waters muddy.

Liked Johnny as well, and his coldness towards Ruby, him telling Pat that everyone had forgotten who they were talking to. Oh, and hah! to Ruby. Why Juley "just wants to be with her" is beyond me. Oh, joy, another evening of listening to Ruby whine, pout and moan. What a joyous relationship. Maybe this is EE way to make us feel sorry for Juley, Phil and Johnny. If it had been any other 17 year old girl their actions would have been terrible. But she's annoying as hell so no one cares. :lol:

Liked the scenes with Stacey and Jake and them teaming up to win the pool. And I'm enjoying the scenes with Rosie and Mike as well - I'm enjoying Mike a lot more than I did during the France episodes, probably because there isn't helium filled Mickey to deal with.

[sarah21]

Didn't enjoy that one bit. As much as I love Stacey, I can see them using this girl until I'm sick to death of her. She is going to be part of every storyline. :(

Dennis is being stupid upsetting Johnny like this. He knows you don't make a fool of a villain. At least Johnny has enough decency to allow them a way out, but we know Dennis is too daft to take it. It all boils down to male pride. And in both cases, their families will be the people who suffer.

Not enjoying the Millers at the moment. To be honest, it is Dawn that is ruining them for me. She is such a self centred, manipulative woman. I used to think Zoe only thought about herself but this woman makes her seem positively sweetness and light. And now she is behind the bar, no doubt to throw herself at anything that breathes. :angry:

[lollymay]

And now she is behind the bar, no doubt to throw herself at anything that breathes. :angry:

i agree!

[parkerman]

My two questions for tonight...

1. Why would a man like Johnny Allen, who lives on the Square, go in to the cafe for a coffee "to go"? As a supplementary, why did he have to walk in at the precise moment Ian was standing with his back to the door slagging him off?

2. Who is looking after Mickey's stall now that Dawn is working in the Queen Vic?

[Richie_lecturer]

Didn't enjoy that one bit. As much as I love Stacey, I can see them using this girl until I'm sick to death of her. She is going to be part of every storyline. :(

Dennis is being stupid upsetting Johnny like this. He knows you don't make a fool of a villain. At least Johnny has enough decency to allow them a way out, but we know Dennis is too daft to take it. It all boils down to male pride. And in both cases, their families will be the people who suffer.

Not enjoying the Millers at the moment. To be honest, it is Dawn that is ruining them for me. She is such a self centred, manipulative woman. I used to think Zoe only thought about herself but this woman makes her seem positively sweetness and light. And now she is behind the bar, no doubt to throw herself at anything that breathes. :angry:

Good post Sarah, especially since we have disagreed on a few occasions recently. :)

I thought it was yes another poor episode. The writer looked to be a new one, but sadly if he keeps on writing to that standard, he shall receive his P45 in no time at all.

I'm probably one of the few people on here who has never enjoyed the Stacey character, especially because she is in every other blinkin scene. It shows how bad EE is when they have to rely on a 17 year old to prop it up.

I have never taken to the Millers and never will either. The introduction of dim Dawn makes them even worse and I don't like Mike either. Mark Wignett was good in the Bill but has been poorly characterised so far in EE. Hopefully Mike will summon his old chums in Sun Hill to bump off the Miller clan and their mess of a dog.

Gus and Juley - who gives a toss about these two?

What a stupid excuse/storyline this is to kill off Dennis (though I'm delighted they are :clap: ). It really is a lame plot, the way they have got Johnny and Dennis drawing daggers. It totally lacks substance. :thumbsdow As for Sharon using the 'I'm pregnant' excuse to a mad Johnny, very weak I thought. She should've thought about that before double-crossing him.

That's all I can think of to write right now.

Very poor indeed. Still, only another 2 episodes of Splinter Boy. :cheer:

3/10

[Richie_lecturer]

My two questions for tonight...
Show us what you got....


1. Why would a man like Johnny Allen, who lives on the Square, go in to the cafe for a coffee "to go"? As a supplementary, why did he have to walk in at the precise moment Ian was standing with his back to the door slagging him off?
Artistic licence I guess, or just more cliched nonsense from EE writers.



2. Who is looking after Mickey's stall now that Dawn is working in the Queen Vic?
Another clone of Big Mo? The real Big Mo was having too much of a good time in the Vic it seemed.

EDIT: Maybe Keith, who himself looks like a clone of Genghis.

[Dutchgirl]

Show us what you got....


Artistic licence I guess, or just more cliched nonsense from EE writers.



Another clone of Big Mo? The real Big Mo was having too much of a good time in the Vic it seemed.

EDIT: Maybe Keith, who himself looks like a clone of Genghis.

Haven't you got anything else to do than slag EE? Better watch something else with more high end drama!

[Richie_lecturer]

I thought democracy was alive and well, even in this day and age. :(

[Dutchgirl]

I thought democracy was alive and well, even in this day and age. :(
You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. It's just something I noticed.

[Richie_lecturer]

Terrific. :)

Feel free to post your opinions then. :)

[Dutchgirl]

Terrific. :)

Feel free to post your opinions then. :)
Let's do so!

[Richie_lecturer]

Sorted. :cool:

[Layne]

Awww the ickle shannis baby! :wub: hehe

Loved the Jake and Stacey storyline tonight! I thought it were fab!

Evil johnny at the end though, awww but give him a chance he is giving her an ultimatum, ..............................................
Forget it I HATE him!
And truby is getting more annoying being all cold with stacey, stacey was only telling the truth you dumb cow!

There has been a complete role reversal, when ruby first came she was sweet and inncocent and now she is going against daddy'd wishes, tut tut!

Oh and i quite like Nora too, Mike's mum i like the relationship she has with rosie!


Tonight actualy i liked! Apart from, eveil johnny!

[alan45]

Let's do so!

Well we are waiting for your input.

I have to agreee with Richie on this one. At least he doesnt just say EE is crap. He justifies his point of view with reasoned argument. :)

[Dutchgirl]

Well we are waiting for your input.

I have to agreee with Richie on this one. At least he doesnt just say EE is crap. He justifies his point of view with reasoned argument. :)

Well if you go back a page you can see what i thought of the episode.

[alan45]

Well if you go back a page you can see what i thought of the episode.

I did. You should not tell Richie not to watch a programme he has been watching since it began. Like me he has been watching it since it started and like me used to enjoy it before it was dumbed down

[Dutchgirl]

I did. You should not tell Richie not to watch a programme he has been watching since it began. Like me he has been watching it since it started and like me used to enjoy it before it was dumbed down
Well maybe not telling than but an advice, its a darn shame to watch a program for 30 minutes you do not like to watch isn't it? Ive been watching it for merely 5 years and must say that it has been worse!

[Superblue]

Well we are waiting for your input.

I have to agreee with Richie on this one. At least he doesnt just say EE is crap. He justifies his point of view with reasoned argument. :)


Thank goodness neither of you write for EE, as you seem to lack any imagination. I've been reading your comments for ages now, and they rarely change. Surely you could think of something more original by now than to keep making 'wooden' references to Dennis/Nigel. Of course you're entiltled to your opinion, but it's just so tedious, and the sad thing is that you obviously still consider that you are being incredibly witty. Even sadder is that you continue to watch a programme you obviously can't stand. Get a life!!!

[Dutchgirl]

Thank goodness neither of you write for EE, as you seem to lack any imagination. I've been reading your comments for ages now, and they rarely change. Surely you could think of something more original by now than to keep making 'wooden' references to Dennis/Nigel. Of course you're entiltled to your opinion, but it's just so tedious, and the sad thing is that you obviously still consider that you are being incredibly witty. Even sadder is that you continue to watch a programme you obviously can't stand. Get a life!!!

Thanks ever so much someone who understands my view!:cheer:

[alan45]

Even sadder is that you continue to watch a programme you obviously can't stand. Get a life!!!

As I have said numerous times but I will repeat again. I watched EE from day one and always considered it to be cutting edge drama with superb scriptwriting and acting. However since the dumbed it down to cater for a more immature audience the quality has gone steadily downhill. This is course is not just my opinion but that of the vast majority of TV critics and the turnaround in EPs and drop in viewers would tend to lend credence to this view. I dont think its sad to watch what was once one's favourite programme and criticise it in the vain hope it will improve. Please do not result to personal insults. I have a life which I enjoy

[Dutchgirl]

As I have said numerous times but I will repeat again. I watched EE from day one and always considered it to be cutting edge drama with superb scriptwriting and acting. However since the dumbed it down to cater for a more immature audience the quality has gone steadily downhill. This is course is not just my opinion but that of the vast majority of TV critics and the turnaround in EPs and drop in viewers would tend to lend credence to this view. I dont think its sad to watch what was once one's favourite programme and criticise it in the vain hope it will improve. Please do not result to personal insults. I have a life which I enjoy
Well if you are opinioated you should accept that other people have opinions themselves.

[alan45]

Well if you are opinioated you should accept that other people have opinions themselves.

I do accept other peoples opinions but it seems when people criticise the sacred cow that is EE that is some sort of horrible crime. I respect your opinions on EE, I may not agree with them but I respect your right to say it as you see it. :)

[Richie_lecturer]

Thank goodness neither of you write for EE, as you seem to lack any imagination. I've been reading your comments for ages now, and they rarely change. Surely you could think of something more original by now than to keep making 'wooden' references to Dennis/Nigel. Of course you're entiltled to your opinion, but it's just so tedious, and the sad thing is that you obviously still consider that you are being incredibly witty. Even sadder is that you continue to watch a programme you obviously can't stand. Get a life!!!

I have written stuff for productions before. I have also been a consultant in the past for Radio 4 script editors. Nothing significant but it mean I should know good stuff when I see it.

I write what I think, wit doesn't come into it.

You watch some of the great stuff from EE in the past: Den & Angie, the Osmans, Michelle Fowler, Nick Cotton, Arfur and Pete, the Jacksons, the Taverners, I could go on. The show is a pale imagination of what it was this time 3 years ago, which is a great shame. So what if I find Nigel wooden. I don't rate him as an actor (he's OK in Guys & Dolls though) and that's that. The script writing for the show and the writing is all over the place at times. The only decent writers they have now are Sarah Phelps and Tony Jordan, and to a lesser extent, Carey Andrews and Richard Davidson. All the others are useless, they have never really replaced the strong writing line-up of Tony McHale, Gillian Richmond and Simon Ashdown to name but a few, who made EE must see TV for many years.

Most people normally watch a show out of habit. There are a lot of people like me who watch in the hope that it improves but are sadly disappointed. There are some things that sound promising for EE next year but overall I am not totally convinced. I will give it another 6 months max to see if it improves. Only then I will give up on it if it hasn't improved. A good friend of mine gave up watching on Xmas Day after 21 years. She only watched it to see Jessie Wallace leave and she didn't think much of that either.

Please don't resort to personal insults either. Oh and if you don't like my posts, ignore them.

You sound like a banned user as well. :hmm:

[Jessie Wallace]

She only watched it to see Jessie Wallace leave and she didn't think much of that either.

Please don't resort to personal insults either. Oh and if you don't like my posts, ignore them.

You sound like a banned user as well. :hmm:

Here here. Sorry to all Jessie Haters, but i will miss her too. And i agree there is totally no need to insult people on here, to try and get your point across, just ignore, if you have nothing nice to say!

[Richie_lecturer]

Of course I am no Jessie fan, but I think the show will miss her a bit. As I say I never liked her that much, but there are far worse characters in EE than her imo atm, e.g. Ruby Tuesday. :angry:

[Jessie Wallace]

Ah sorry i don't mind her either, the most annoying at the moment has to be Naomi.

[Richie_lecturer]

Yes I find her annoying too. I hate her fake smile.

[Jessie Wallace]

It's not a smile it's just teeth teeth and more teeth.

[Debs]

It's not a smile it's just teeth teeth and more teeth.

:rotfl: your right there! she so awful she cant act wish she would just go!!!

[Jessie Wallace]

I'd even pay her to go!

[Bree]

I'd even pay her to go!yeah i hate her shes so annoying that Naomi.

[Johnny Allen]

Ruby should just go, she's plain awful, I don't like to comment on actresses at a young age but when ever the lass has a scene with Lacey Turner she's completely knocked of-screen, EE need to get rid of her.

[?????]

merry xmas everyone( a bit late i know but i aint been on these boards for some time now) and a happy new year.

WE ARE FINALLY GOONAHAVE A SHANNIS BABY. all these time we had argued over the fact that sharon will never get pregnant( the bbc boards remember) how us shannis fans always said that she will one... day. soo ahhh in your face.

lol anyway the xmas eppie was actually quite good, not brilliant but waaay better anything else that was on. lil mo was so annoying 'happy endings' happy ending kat' ughhhh gawd i wanted to tell that santa clause wasn't real!!!!!!

[feelingyellow]

Ruby should just go, she's plain awful, I don't like to comment on actresses at a young age but when ever the lass has a scene with Lacey Turner she's completely knocked of-screen, EE need to get rid of her.

i don't mind the actress so much... just the character - she's really annoying!!

[Bree]

i have gone of ruby but i still like her a littel

[the_watts_rule]

I think Ruby needs to drop Juley. They just aren't suited,

[BlackKat]

I think Stacey needs to drop Ruby. She really is a terrible 'best' friend.

[parkerman]

i don't mind the actress so much... just the character - she's really annoying!!

I think they are both as bad as each other... :nono:

[the_watts_rule]

I think Ruby and Stacey are good friends but they would be even better friends if Ruby dumped Juley

[shannisrules]

ye ruby seems to be spending less and less time with stacy recently

[feelingyellow]

i really miss their friendship ... it was so good - but then ruby had to go and be a stupid cow! :angry:

[shannisrules]

shes so stupid if this carrys on i will start screaming at the tv hes using you!

[Bree]

i hate juley and ruby togther

[alan45]

WE ARE FINALLY GOONAHAVE A SHANNIS BABY. all these time we had argued over the fact that sharon will never get pregnant!!!!!

Its EE's answer to the immaculate conception :angel:

[BlackKat]

Its EE's answer to the immaculate conception :angel:

Since just a few weeks ago we were subjected to the A-Z of Shannis's sex life, complete with sound effects, I very much doubt it was immaculate.

[shannisrules]

good episode i was screaming at the t.v tell him! just tell him!! she must tell him tormorrow cant wait to see his expression

[Debs]

good episode i was screaming at the t.v tell him! just tell him!! she must tell him tormorrow cant wait to see his expression


i was too, i cant beleive she didint!

wasnt that impressed by tonights episode, it was pretty rubbish but i know it will be better next few days

[BlackKat]

Juley has a backbone? Dear god, where has he been hiding it. Perhaps it is detachable and therefore he can bash Ruby to death with it. Juley himself has been given a stay of execution by the way - once this direness if over with I predict he'll fade into oblivion much like his brother, and therefore will be more tolerable.

Yet another item to Louisa's list of "Things I could once do, but now cannot." -- Cry convincingly.

[littlemo]

good episode i was screaming at the t.v tell him! just tell him!! she must tell him tormorrow cant wait to see his expression

I think she did the right thing not telling him. Sharon is right he wouldn't let it go if he knew that she'd been attacked by Johnny. I don't like them keeping secrets from each other though, it's difficult to see that. Especially since she told Phil all about it. But you know that her heart's in the right place.

I quite liked the scenes between Sharon and Phil. I love Sharon and Dennis together, but it has got a bit to nice (if you know what I mean). It doesn't have the same passion, as it used to have (at least we don't see it).

I thought it was quite a good episode in parts. But I didn't like the whole thing about the journalist and Wellard, that was a bit crap. Also the stuff with Martin and Sonia and the thing with Johnny and Juley, were a bit to long winded.

Good ending, port before the storm?!

[angelblue]

i was too, i cant beleive she didint!

wasnt that impressed by tonights episode, it was pretty rubbish but i know it will be better next few days

Please someone kill me now i cant take the torture anymore for god sake i cant stand ruby/juley/phil i wish they would just go and dont even get me started on the bloody wellard thing :angry: :angry: :angry:

i felt so sorry for sharon bless so sweet she is trying to protect her husband great acting from her and poor dennis doesnt know what going on phil is just nasty :) :(

[Suzanne]

I find the whole Johnny and Dennis storyline a bit too contrived. There hasn't been the build up that should have been there - you know, weeks and weeks of "I'm badder than you" kind of stuff. It's all been Johnny and Juley build up for something to happen. Frankly, I'd much rather it be Juley! LOL

[Bryan]

despite the harsh reviews the episodes have been getting from you guys recently i enjoyed it

usually this week of the year there is nothing but preparing for the next year, we have a gripping story that is going to come to a head on new years eve. im loving the phil and johnny feud, and the ever increasing number of people being hurt as a result of it

i aslo loved the cameo today of the newpaper journalist plated by the actress who plays Vicky (one of the screws) in Bad Girls!

[littlemo]

I find the whole Johnny and Dennis storyline a bit too contrived. There hasn't been the build up that should have been there - you know, weeks and weeks of "I'm badder than you" kind of stuff. It's all been Johnny and Juley build up for something to happen. Frankly, I'd much rather it be Juley! LOL

Me too! I think that would make a lot more sense. Dennis has just been caught in the crossfire, he isn't the one actually firing the bullets. Juley's the one Johnny's really angry at, Dennis is just the scapegoat.

[Bree]

good episode i was screaming at the t.v tell him! just tell him!! she must tell him tormorrow cant wait to see his expression
me and my sis where shouting that 2

[feelingyellow]

aww sharon and dennis ... i suddenly find them sweet :lol:
glad gus talk that reporter what ian really is!
hmm juley was sorta sweet tonight ... i nearly found myself liking him ... nearly

[feelingyellow]

hmm no comments from the cramp twins yet! :mad:

[Chris_2k11]

hmm no comments from the cramp twins yet! :mad:lmao!!! :rotfl:

[Richie_lecturer]

Boo!

It was OK, better than recent offerings, but still a bit disappointing. Found the Wellard stuff boring.

Johnny/Dennis/Sharon/Phil stuff still quite boring but at least they seemed to make the background and plot a bit more watertight in this episode.

Juley/ Ruby/Gus must die. I hope when (if) Wellard returns he bites Gus on the bum. The stuff with that journalist was as funny as a Moroccan impersonator of Tommy Cooper.

Millers annoying as ever. Shame Mike didn't lace the mashed potatoes with rentakill, so we'd be spared the presence of that family from our screens forever.

4-4.5
/10

[alkalinetrio]

are you ever happy?

[Kim]

It actually me cry at the end

Nearly made me cry aswell.

[Jada-GDR]

i think that with mike around, helping and everything, rosie is finally starting to see how useless and lazy keith is :cheer:

[Richie_lecturer]

are you ever happy?
Yes. :)

[Bryan]

Yes. :)

but not when it comes to eastenders?

[Richie_lecturer]

I give praise when it's due. Why is that so hard for everyone to understand *(no offence)? :searchme:

[Bryan]

I give praise when it's due. Why is that so hard for everyone to understand *(no offence)? :searchme:

its just i cant remember you ever praising the show, fair enough its very rarely to the standards of the 80's-90's, but the episodes are still a lot better than what you usually give them credit for?

[Richie_lecturer]

Well we'll have to agree to disagree there. :)

The last 'good' episode I saw was Zoe's exit in July, and I don't even like the character! The last very good episode I saw was 371 days ago during Kathleen Huchinson's first week as boss, which was Den and Marcus swindling Sam out of her 'jewels' and Paul's exit. The last excellent episode for me was Janine's exit nearly 2 years ago, and that was under the awful Berridge era!

Fair enough you might like the episodes now and that's fine, but I don't right now. The characters are weak, characters are deconstructed and destroyed at the drop of a hat, e.g. Johnny, just to fit with the 'in-crowd' e.g. the dominant Mitchells. The writing is inconsistent, save for the likes of Tony and Sarah, though I didn't think the xmas day episode was that good. The plots/storylines are poor, and there are glearing continuity errors in so many episodes, with more holes than Swiss cheese.

Hopefully the influx of new characters will stop the rot, with the likes of qiuality in Phil Daniels and Diane Parish and Kelly Shirley joining soon. If it's still the same old same old in 6 months though, I shall turn off for good, and then you don't have to worry about me moaning about EE anymore. :)

[Dutchgirl]

Thought it was ok. Phil has to stop and leave Juley and Ruby, he was sweet to Sharon, he has a soft spot for her. Letitia gives a good performance, and Pam St. Clement is always up to standard. Cannot wait for things to stir up. Even if I may not like the ending.:(

[shannisrules]

after what happens ina few days phil feels really guilty because he feels he played a part in what will happen

[Chris_2k11]

Very good episode tonight! :) Really enjoyed it :thumbsup:

[Debs]

yeah i realy enjoyed tonights, cant believe they were nearly away darn that ian!

[Layne]

I HATE PHIL its offical!!!! Sharon told him not to say anything!!!
Its his fault :(

[i_luv_dennis]

shannis nearly made it i hate ian

[sanddennislover]

yeah i realy enjoyed tonights, cant believe they were nearly away darn thatian!

yeah that what i thought i went to my mun oh i thought he get******** then ian grrrr what is phil got to say???if u noctied that was the last time tiem sharon ever saw him *****

[the_watts_rule]

They could have been away if Ian hadn't stopped them!

[BlackKat]

A brief summary of the writer's meeting that led to this episode:

Writer 1: Guys...it's Dennis' last few episodes coming up.
Writer 2: What...cute Dennis?
W1: Yeah, cute Dennis. Y'know what this means don't you?
W2:...Character development?
W1: Yeah! Get your exposition hats on guys, we're gonna talk about Dennis's past!
W3: A year too late.
W1: Sorry, what?
W3: Nothing!

Dawn is so cute. Honey is also cute, but not as cute as Dawn. Together they are uber!cute. with their singing and their little wands. Honey usually annoys me, but she had be in hysterics with her "dead dog...dog on death row." And Dawn is getting Jake drunk, most likely using Chrissie's bail money to pay for the drinks. HAH!

The one thing I didn't get about this episode...are Sharon and Dennis looking forward to their new start? I mean, they didn't really mention that, or focus on that, or repeat it enough times for it to sink in. :rolleyes: :lol:

Good episode, though I thought the Sharon and Dennis scenes were a little...they were good, and they were well-written, it's just they'd get a great momentum going with Phil and Johnny and then..back to another scene of Sharon and Dennis talking.

[dannii_29]

i hate ian....... before he was annyoing but funny esp when wellard bit him but now i hate him couldn't have just let them go its all his fault. For once i actually like pauline in this episode she looked really nice with a smile on her face lol. Had to feel sorry for Phil though that was shan what johnny did wish peggy hadn't of shouted him and maybe phil would off kill johnny with that brick yay lol :angry: :angry:

[Jada-GDR]

i hate johnny :angry: :mad:

[Tamzi]

Why did Ian have to go over to the cab? They would have been able to go otherwise. Very annoyed at Ian and Phil and Johnny. Andy and Dennis both spent part of their final day in the bookies talking to Pat. The 4 main people Johnny killed/ tried to kill seem bookies related: Andy, Jake, Danny and Dennis. Spooky. You can tell ee writers are trying to get people more upset. They've got Dennis talking about his childhood and how his life is complete etc. All very soppy really.
I really like Dawn and Honey, glad they were bought into the show. At least there was no Sonia Martin, Rebecca or Naomi. Whoop!
xxx

[Jada-GDR]

honey is a little bit dim isn't she? she and dawn were quite sweet with their wands (awful singing though) and johnny is evil :moonie:

[Cornishbabe]

ians stupid theyd almost got away

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

As soon as Shannis got out of the car I thought.. Im going to kill you IAN!! :angry:

I couldn't help laughing when Johnny phoned Phil up!! :lol: But that was PURE evil!! I blame Peggy also for coming between Phil and Johnny!! Phil could have whacked him across the head!! :angry:

[Debs]

As soon as Shannis got out of the car I thought.. Im going to kill you IAN!! :angry:

I couldn't help laughing when Johnny phoned Phil up!! :lol: But that was PURE evil!! I blame Peggy also for coming between Phil and Johnny!! Phil could have whacked him across the head!! :angry:



That was very funny horrod but very very funy!

i was hoping he would have but that peggy interrupted him grrrrrr

[Charmed]

As soon as Shannis got out of the car I thought.. Im going to kill you IAN!! :angry:


Yeah,Me too.I could have totally hit him with a doorstop or maybe just terrify him by setting Betty onto him! :angry:

[Bree]

very good eppie i love dennis :( i even felt sorry for phil tonight honey and dawn singing made me laugh im really starting to like honey shes like a young pretty lil mo and im even starting to like dawn

[shannisrules]

good episode though you can tell they're trying to build up tension i thought all the drama would happen tonight must be tomorrow ill be watching with my eyes gkued anyone else noticed that lately sharon has turned into a bit of a goth i mean shes always worn black but lately shes had black nails clothes and very black eyes

[Bree]

after what happens ina few days phil feels really guilty because he feels he played a part in what will happenmy sis and me where saying that to :)

[alan45]

I watched tonights episode with an open mind Its just such a pity the characters acted with an even more open mind

[alkalinetrio]

shes turned nothing like a goth! just cause u wear black stuff like clothes, nailvanish, eyeliner doesnt mean ur a goth! you shud look it up on net what a goth really is! but yeah anyways good episode pure evil johny i was so hoping phil was going to do him in DAMN THAT PEGGY lol

[JustJodi]

after what happens ina few days phil feels really guilty because he feels he played a part in what will happen

Phil feeling guilty ??? fat chance !!!!! :mad:

[JustJodi]

ians stupid theyd almost got away


I am surprised the stupid cab driver even stopped ...I hate IAN too bad the driver didn't just run him over and say OOPS :moonie:

[Dutchgirl]

A brief summary of the writer's meeting that led to this episode:

Writer 1: Guys...it's Dennis' last few episodes coming up.
Writer 2: What...cute Dennis?
W1: Yeah, cute Dennis. Y'know what this means don't you?
W2:...Character development?
W1: Yeah! Get your exposition hats on guys, we're gonna talk about Dennis's past!
W3: A year too late.
W1: Sorry, what?
W3: Nothing!



Thats what I thought watching the epi lets give Dennis some good lines as it is going to be his last!. They should have given him stuff like this before, maybe he would not have left eh?:nono:

It is all to much tension it is getting to me cannot wait until tonight, I'm taping it and watch a few times I think!:wall: The demise of Dennis.:crying:

[parkerman]

I have to say I thought that whole business with Ian stopping the cab was so contrived I couldn't take it seriously. Given the circumstances would Sharon really have agreed to stop and get out? That's the problem with Eastenders these days. And I can certainly understand Richie_lecturer's view on the current state of Eastenders when such a crucial storyline turns on this ridiculous little episode.

[littlemo]

I am surprised the stupid cab driver even stopped ...I hate IAN too bad the driver didn't just run him over and say OOPS :moonie:

Everyone has got it in for Ian haven't they?! lol. I felt a bit mad at him too at the time, but it isn't really his fault. It's down to Johnny and Phil. All Ian wanted was for them to say a proper goodbye.

[Kim]

I am surprised the stupid cab driver even stopped ...I hate IAN too bad the driver didn't just run him over and say OOPS :moonie:

I wish he did and then what is happening tonight wouldn't happen.

[Bree]

Everyone has got it in for Ian haven't they?! lol. I felt a bit mad at him too at the time, but it isn't really his fault. It's down to Johnny and Phil. All Ian wanted was for them to say a proper goodbye.yeah ian dident mean it but i still am mad at him lol

[Kim]

I kind of blame Ian more than I do Phil, but I can't explain in the general section. It's also kind of because I hate Ian.

[dannii_29]

only 30 mins to go peeps

[shannisrules]

this will be the saddest episode eva anyway beeter go it'll be in a tick

[i_luv_dennis]

i no yeah

[Chris_2k11]

this will be the saddest episode eva anyway beeter go it'll be in a tickI doubt it, saddest new year's eve in Walford would have to be 1998 in my opinion :) Fantastic episode.

[i_luv_dennis]

this is so sad

[alan45]

this will be the saddest episode eva anyway beeter go it'll be in a tick

This will be the best episode of 2005 :cheer:

[Cornishbabe]

i dont want him to die. evil phil. trying to manipulate dennis

[Chris_2k11]

I see the beetroot face coming on very soon :lol:

[Abi]

I'm with Alan on this one. Come on, its a fictional charcter, its not like its real life is it! People weren't so keen to express how sad they were on the rememberance thread that i think Steff made, and thats real life. This is a bloody soap! Get over it!

[Abi]

and he's not even dead yet!

[alan45]

Mr Beetroot is so scary............................................. ...................NOT :rotfl:

[i_luv_dennis]

why didnt they just leave

[Cornishbabe]

beacuse ian is stupid

[Chris_2k11]

and he's not even dead yet!I wonder how many of these faces >>> :crying: :crying: :crying: we'll have in this thread by the end of tonight's episode :lol:

[i_luv_dennis]

well mine will

[Cornishbabe]

lol lots probably

[alan45]

I wonder how many of these faces >>> :crying: :crying: :crying: we'll have in this thread by the end of tonight's episode :lol:

Noy me thats for sure :rotfl:

I hope the Samaritains are on standby :rolleyes:

[Abi]

Oh god..... It'll probably only be about 30 seconds long, and will happen at exactly midnight......

[i_luv_dennis]

last kiss

[Cornishbabe]

yeh and then it will be the end of the show!

[alan45]

Cue the doof doofs

[i_luv_dennis]

yeah

[Abi]

i'm soooooo emotional....not!

[Cornishbabe]

stupid dennis going to meet his death!!!