Ross Barton (Michael Parr)

[Telly Watcher]

I don't think the Daily Mirror article tells us anything really. Just mays, mights, ifs, won'ts. No spoiler value at all. Although Kate Oates is leaving this week, the storylines for the next 6 months or so, plus 6 weeks to finish filming them, should take her influence on Emmerdale to about September 2016, roughly about when I think Mike Parr's contract is due to expire/be renewed.

[Telly Watcher]

​Robberies, mindless violence, wife-stealing and even hanging his brother Pete over a bridge - Emmerdale bad boy Ross Barton has been getting away with murder all year. His army of fans have loved every second, but it could all be about to change this week as Robert Sugden's shooting comes back to haunt him at last.

When Ross finally becomes the focus of the police's investigation, it sets in motion a devastating chain of events which sees his partner Debbie Dingle walk out on him and leave the village.

Michael Parr, who plays Ross, spoke exclusively to Digital Spy about the moment that the village's rogue loses everything.

How does Ross cope when the police start asking him questions about the recent warehouse robbery this week?

"Ross is quite calm, because he knows the only thing he did wrong was the robbery itself. He's pretty certain that he's got his back covered and that he wouldn't have been spotted by anyone.

"It's Aaron who made things tricky, because he attacked someone during the raid. Ross thinks Aaron is the one who's going to be in bother, but obviously he never wants the police sniffing round after all the stuff he's done in the past."

Why does Ross end up in the frame for Robert's shooting?

"The police pick up on new evidence and they have a look around for more details. They know it has to be someone in the village and Ross is a crook, so a few fingers are definitely pointing at him.

"It makes Ross really unsettled. This is an attempted murder investigation and he knows he could face a long sentence for this if he was rumbled."

What makes Debbie agree to give Ross a false alibi?

"Debbie gives Ross every opportunity to confess whether the shooter was him or not - but he lies through his teeth and manages to convince her that he's innocent. That makes her absolutely 100% certain that it couldn't have been Ross, so she decides to protect him."

But things take a very dramatic turn when Robert confronts Ross with a gun...

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Robert points his gun at Ross on New Year's Eve

"Yeah, it happens when Ross is getting ready for New Year's Eve. He's got a big question that he wants to ask Debbie and he's made some big plans for that. Suddenly he bumps into Robert, who's waiting for him in the house with a gun. It turns out that Robert wants revenge in the simplest way - Ross shot him, so he's going to do it to him in return."

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Ross puts his hands up as he faces Robert holding a gun aimed at Ross's chest

Is Ross genuinely scared?

"He is scared, because Robert has literally got a gun pointed to his chest, but he also starts to play a bit of a mind game on Robert. Ross doesn't believe that Robert has got the minerals to go through with something like that... until Robert starts to talk about his past and what he's done to people before.

"That really puts the wind up Ross. I can't give much away, but you'll see that Robert confronting Ross actually lets the cat out of the bag about the whole thing. That means Ross's world starts to crumble..."

That includes Debbie finding out everything and leaving the village! How devastating is that for Ross?

"Ross is gutted because their relationship is everything he's ever wanted. He'd done all of these stupid things in the past, but now he was ready to stop. Ross tries everything he can to get Debbie to stay, but it doesn't work."

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Ross tells Debbie that he wants them to be together

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Debbie leaves Ross and Emmerdale

Would you like Ross and Robert's feud to continue into next year?

"I don't think Ross is the type of person to let it lie - even though it's 1-1 now! Ross shot Robert, but then he retaliated by making him lose everything. Hopefully there is more drama to come between those two. Obviously Robert has money, power and he's probably smarter than Ross. But Ross has the brawn and is a bit more ruthless, I think."

Will you miss working with Charley Webb (Debbie), who's just gone on maternity leave?

"Yeah, I'm gutted. I wasn't there on her last day filming, but I sent her a really long message just saying how grateful I was that I finally got to work with her. She's a consummate professional and fun to share scenes with. You never know what will happen. I might not still be at the show by the time her maternity is up, so those could have been our last scenes together."

Are you expecting 2016 to be another busy year for Ross?

"It's hard, because how do you top a year like the one I've just had? I wouldn't be surprised if I went a little bit quieter. Other people have to have their big storylines as well. Obviously if the big stories came my way I would embrace them, but we'll have to see what our new producer Iain [MacLeod] brings to the table because he's going to have his own ideas."

You admitted a few months back that getting a new boss was pretty nerve-wracking. How do you feel about it now?

"When I say 'nerve-wracking', I think it sounds like I'm sat here panicking! It's just because I've never experienced a producer changeover before. Obviously I've been quite busy and I'd like that to continue. But Iain might bring in a new Ross Barton and I'll get forgotten about! It's only melodramatic things that I'm probably being a bit OTT with, so to be honest I'm more excited than nervous."

Your new shorter haircut became a talking point on Twitter recently! Was that a surprise?

"Some people said they liked it the old way and others said they liked it the new way, but I'm not going to change it because of that! If the biggest thing going on in your life is my hair, then so be it. But I'm not sat here looking in the mirror going: 'Oh no, what have I done?!'"

You're not shy of fighting back on Twitter with things like that. Do you think it's important to stand up for yourself when viewers give you stick?

"Yeah, I got some grief the other day. Someone had a go at me but when I had a go back, they instantly became the victim and tried to make me look bad. But I always say that if you take a shot at me, don't think that we're not allowed to have a go back.

"I don't respond to everyone. Usually it's all tongue-in-cheek and very light-hearted. But it is funny when people call you trash or a crap actor and get immediately offended when you fight back!"

Daniel Kilkelly, Digital Spy
28 December 2015
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/interviews/a777963/bang-to-rights-emmerdale-star-michael-parr-reveals-how-ross-bartons-world-crumbles-this-week/

[kennedyfan86]

I don't think the Daily Mirror article tells us anything really. Just mays, mights, ifs, won'ts. No spoiler value at all. Although Kate Oates is leaving this week, the storylines for the next 6 months or so, plus 6 weeks to finish filming them, should take her influence on Emmerdale to about September 2016, roughly about when I think Mike Parr's contract is due to expire/be renewed.

He said he was leaving with Charley Webb, that's not happening, he enjoys toying, winding the fans up, it's his way, he knows if he's still in the job or not alright, well in advance

[kennedyfan86]

I don't think the Daily Mirror article tells us anything really. Just mays, mights, ifs, won'ts. No spoiler value at all. Although Kate Oates is leaving this week, the storylines for the next 6 months or so, plus 6 weeks to finish filming them, should take her influence on Emmerdale to about September 2016, roughly about when I think Mike Parr's contract is due to expire/be renewed.

He said he was leaving with Charley Webb, that's not happening, he enjoys toying, winding the fans up, it's his way, he knows if he's still in the job or not alright, well in advance

[tammyy2j]

Robberies, mindless violence, wife-stealing and even hanging his brother Pete over a bridge - Emmerdale bad boy Ross Barton has been getting away with murder all year. His army of fans have loved every second, but it could all be about to change this week as Robert Sugden's shooting comes back to haunt him at last.

When Ross finally becomes the focus of the police's investigation, it sets in motion a devastating chain of events which sees his partner Debbie Dingle walk out on him and leave the village.

Michael Parr, who plays Ross, spoke exclusively to Digital Spy about the moment that the village's rogue loses everything.

How does Ross cope when the police start asking him questions about the recent warehouse robbery this week?

"Ross is quite calm, because he knows the only thing he did wrong was the robbery itself. He's pretty certain that he's got his back covered and that he wouldn't have been spotted by anyone.

"It's Aaron who made things tricky, because he attacked someone during the raid. Ross thinks Aaron is the one who's going to be in bother, but obviously he never wants the police sniffing round after all the stuff he's done in the past."

Why does Ross end up in the frame for Robert's shooting?

"The police pick up on new evidence and they have a look around for more details. They know it has to be someone in the village and Ross is a crook, so a few fingers are definitely pointing at him.

"It makes Ross really unsettled. This is an attempted murder investigation and he knows he could face a long sentence for this if he was rumbled."

What makes Debbie agree to give Ross a false alibi?

"Debbie gives Ross every opportunity to confess whether the shooter was him or not - but he lies through his teeth and manages to convince her that he's innocent. That makes her absolutely 100% certain that it couldn't have been Ross, so she decides to protect him."

But things take a very dramatic turn when Robert confronts Ross with a gun...

"Yeah, it happens when Ross is getting ready for New Year's Eve. He's got a big question that he wants to ask Debbie and he's made some big plans for that. Suddenly he bumps into Robert, who's waiting for him in the house with a gun. It turns out that Robert wants revenge in the simplest way - Ross shot him, so he's going to do it to him in return."

Is Ross genuinely scared?

"He is scared, because Robert has literally got a gun pointed to his chest, but he also starts to play a bit of a mind game on Robert. Ross doesn't believe that Robert has got the minerals to go through with something like that... until Robert starts to talk about his past and what he's done to people before.

"That really puts the wind up Ross. I can't give much away, but you'll see that Robert confronting Ross actually lets the cat out of the bag about the whole thing. That means Ross's world starts to crumble..."

That includes Debbie finding out everything and leaving the village! How devastating is that for Ross?

"Ross is gutted because their relationship is everything he's ever wanted. He'd done all of these stupid things in the past, but now he was ready to stop. Ross tries everything he can to get Debbie to stay, but it doesn't work."

Would you like Ross and Robert's feud to continue into next year?

"I don't think Ross is the type of person to let it lie - even though it's 1-1 now! Ross shot Robert, but then he retaliated by making him lose everything. Hopefully there is more drama to come between those two. Obviously Robert has money, power and he's probably smarter than Ross. But Ross has the brawn and is a bit more ruthless, I think."

Will you miss working with Charley Webb (Debbie), who's just gone on maternity leave?

"Yeah, I'm gutted. I wasn't there on her last day filming, but I sent her a really long message just saying how grateful I was that I finally got to work with her. She's a consummate professional and fun to share scenes with. You never know what will happen. I might not still be at the show by the time her maternity is up, so those could have been our last scenes together."

Are you expecting 2016 to be another busy year for Ross?

"It's hard, because how do you top a year like the one I've just had? I wouldn't be surprised if I went a little bit quieter. Other people have to have their big storylines as well. Obviously if the big stories came my way I would embrace them, but we'll have to see what our new producer Iain [MacLeod] brings to the table because he's going to have his own ideas."

You admitted a few months back that getting a new boss was pretty nerve-wracking. How do you feel about it now?

"When I say 'nerve-wracking', I think it sounds like I'm sat here panicking! It's just because I've never experienced a producer changeover before. Obviously I've been quite busy and I'd like that to continue. But Iain might bring in a new Ross Barton and I'll get forgotten about! It's only melodramatic things that I'm probably being a bit OTT with, so to be honest I'm more excited than nervous."

Your new shorter haircut became a talking point on Twitter recently! Was that a surprise?

"Some people said they liked it the old way and others said they liked it the new way, but I'm not going to change it because of that! If the biggest thing going on in your life is my hair, then so be it. But I'm not sat here looking in the mirror going: 'Oh no, what have I done?!'"

You're not shy of fighting back on Twitter with things like that. Do you think it's important to stand up for yourself when viewers give you stick?

"Yeah, I got some grief the other day. Someone had a go at me but when I had a go back, they instantly became the victim and tried to make me look bad. But I always say that if you take a shot at me, don't think that we're not allowed to have a go back.

"I don't respond to everyone. Usually it's all tongue-in-cheek and very light-hearted. But it is funny when people call you trash or a crap actor and get immediately offended when you fight back!"

[rossfan]

Well tonight is the start when Ross gets interrogated by the police. It should be exellent viewing. Really can't wait.

I know from the spoilers that Debbie covers for him for the stolen goods as she already knows about them. The scenes when she finds out about Ross shooting Robert though should be dramatic. She will also learn that Andy, the father of her children arranged the deal with Ross. So hopefully he gets some of the flack from Debbie.

[rossfan]

Well tonight is the start when Ross gets interrogated by the police. It should be exellent viewing. Really can't wait.

I know from the spoilers that Debbie covers for him for the stolen goods as she already knows about them. The scenes when she finds out about Ross shooting Robert though should be dramatic. She will also learn that Andy, the father of her children arranged the deal with Ross. So hopefully he gets some of the flack from Debbie.

[alcapo11]

Well tonight is the start when Ross gets interrogated by the police. It should be exellent viewing. Really can't wait.

I know from the spoilers that Debbie covers for him for the stolen goods as she already knows about them. The scenes when she finds out about Ross shooting Robert though should be dramatic. She will also learn that Andy, the father of her children arranged the deal with Ross. So hopefully he gets some of the flack from Debbie.

I wonder if Ross proposes to Debbie before she leaves or whether she finds out before he has the chance. Im interested to see the way Ross is treated after every one finds out, he will probably be barred from the Wolpack, he will have no job. He does however go back to live with his family though by the sounds of the spoilers so at least it isn't Ross vs everyone.

[alcapo11]

Well tonight is the start when Ross gets interrogated by the police. It should be exellent viewing. Really can't wait.

I know from the spoilers that Debbie covers for him for the stolen goods as she already knows about them. The scenes when she finds out about Ross shooting Robert though should be dramatic. She will also learn that Andy, the father of her children arranged the deal with Ross. So hopefully he gets some of the flack from Debbie.

I wonder if Ross proposes to Debbie before she leaves or whether she finds out before he has the chance. Im interested to see the way Ross is treated after every one finds out, he will probably be barred from the Wolpack, he will have no job. He does however go back to live with his family though by the sounds of the spoilers so at least it isn't Ross vs everyone.

[Dalesfan]

Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds. Thing is Ross does hold some power still. He could still put Aaron in it with the robbery and use it as a threat. So maybe some will be a little wary of that

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Moira Dingle discovers that stressing about Charity begins at home as her husband Cain’s former lover, and cousin, prepares for her release from prison where she served time for perverting the course of justice. Cain blames her for his daughter Debbie quitting the village after her relationship with Ross.

[Telly Watcher]

I liked Ross Barton until August 2015. In fact, I wish he'd stayed dead so I'd still have happy memories of him being good for the show. Instead, he came back and has since just made more and more unnecessary problems for himself and everyone on Emmerdale with no comeback for his actions. He hasn't so much been digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself, but to have fallen off a cliff and been in free-fall for the past 4 months. During New Year's Day, he finally hits the ground and the consequences of his own deeds and reality finally set in - Debbie leaves him, it's looks like he moves into Emma's house, he has no job, Robert knows Ross attempted to murder him, most of the other villagers have something on him, the police are chasing him, and Ross is left holding the baby. Welcome to reality at last and Happy New Year, Ross!

I for one am looking forward to enjoying my well-cooked TV kipper for late tea from 7:00pm to 7:30pm on New Year's Day, courtesy of Ross Barton on ITV. Mmmm...Sweet! :)

[alcapo11]

I liked Ross Barton until August 2015. In fact, I wish he'd stayed dead so I'd still have happy memories of him being good for the show. Instead, he came back and has since just made more and more unnecessary problems for himself and everyone on Emmerdale with no comeback for his actions. He hasn't so much been digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself, but to have fallen off a cliff and been in free-fall for the past 4 months. During New Year's Day, he finally hits the ground and the consequences of his own deeds and reality finally set in - Debbie leaves him, it's looks like he moves into Emma's house, he has no job, Robert knows Ross attempted to murder him, most of the other villagers have something on him, the police are chasing him, and Ross is left holding the baby. Welcome to reality at last and Happy New Year, Ross!

I for one am looking forward to enjoying my well-cooked TV kipper for late tea from 7:00pm to 7:30pm on New Year's Day, courtesy of Ross Barton on ITV. Mmmm...Sweet! :)

Yeah but in the spoilers it says Cain considers giving Ross his job back and he gets Moses back plus Robert and Aaron look like reuniting so all these problems for Ross you speak of look like going away.

[alcapo11]

I liked Ross Barton until August 2015. In fact, I wish he'd stayed dead so I'd still have happy memories of him being good for the show. Instead, he came back and has since just made more and more unnecessary problems for himself and everyone on Emmerdale with no comeback for his actions. He hasn't so much been digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself, but to have fallen off a cliff and been in free-fall for the past 4 months. During New Year's Day, he finally hits the ground and the consequences of his own deeds and reality finally set in - Debbie leaves him, it's looks like he moves into Emma's house, he has no job, Robert knows Ross attempted to murder him, most of the other villagers have something on him, the police are chasing him, and Ross is left holding the baby. Welcome to reality at last and Happy New Year, Ross!

I for one am looking forward to enjoying my well-cooked TV kipper for late tea from 7:00pm to 7:30pm on New Year's Day, courtesy of Ross Barton on ITV. Mmmm...Sweet! :)

Yeah but in the spoilers it says Cain considers giving Ross his job back and he gets Moses back plus Robert and Aaron look like reuniting so all these problems for Ross you speak of look like going away.

[sarah c]

the only slightly non-reality bit will be how after months is there any evidence in Debbie's house to link Ross to the shooting of Robert?

Ross visited Debbie's house around that time briefly but wasn't living there, either Debbie never cleans up, or Ross has just left the gun etc lying on the coffee table

[alcapo11]

Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds. Thing is Ross does hold some power still. He could still put Aaron in it with the robbery and use it as a threat. So maybe some will be a little wary of that

This was posted in the other thread

Moira Dingle discovers that stressing about Charity begins at home as her husband Cain’s former lover, and cousin, prepares for her release from prison where she served time for perverting the course of justice. Cain blames her for his daughter Debbie quitting the village after her relationship with Ross.


The warehouse robbery, the home farm robbery, Andy's involvement in the shooting. For me Ross holds all the cards, he can take any of them down with him if he wants to. I really dont get why people think Ross has changed, he has always been a villainous character, only recently we have seen the worst of him just like we have seen the worst of Robert, Cain and Aaron in the past.

[sarah c]

The warehouse robbery, the home farm robbery, Andy's involvement in the shooting. For me Ross holds all the cards, he can take any of them down with him if he wants to. I really dont get why people think Ross has changed, he has always been a villainous character, only recently we have seen the worst of him just like we have seen the worst of Robert, Cain and Aaron in the past.

this is true - Ross has always 'winged it' a bit in life - doing what he needs to do to get by whether good or bad

[Telly Watcher]

Yeah but in the spoilers it says Cain considers giving Ross his job back and he gets Moses back plus Robert and Aaron look like reuniting so all these problems for Ross you speak of look like going away.

The spoilers only say Ross is desperate and begs for his job back from Cain. I think Cain is going to be very mean and angry with Ross over everything Ross has done. Yes, Ross gets Moses back but he doesn't want him ("he's in the way"), so tries to use Emma or anyone else to have him. New Year's Day will still be big fun for TV viewers. Most people love to see a real baddie gets his come-uppance. What goes around comes around!

Exact details of what happens with Ross next long-term remain to be seen but the show-down of Ross meeting the destiny of his own making on New Year's Day is going to maybe be the BIG BANG from Kate Oates I've been waiting for and hoping would come for ages. Carpe Diem - Seize the day, savour the moment, live for today, the future can wait.

[alcapo11]

The spoilers only say Ross is desperate and begs for his job back from Cain. I think Cain is going to be very mean and angry with Ross over everything Ross has done. Yes, Ross gets Moses back but he doesn't want him ("he's in the way"), so tries to use Emma or anyone else to have him. New Year's Day will still be big fun for TV viewers. Most people love to see a real baddie gets his come-uppance. What goes around comes around!

Exact details of what happens with Ross next long-term remain to be seen but the show-down of Ross meeting the destiny of his own making on New Year's Day is going to maybe be the BIG BANG from Kate Oates I've been waiting for and hoping would come for ages. Carpe Diem - Seize the day, savour the moment, live for today, the future can wait.

Alot of people love Ross though, and Ross obviously survives New Years day if hes in the spoilers.

[alcapo11]

The spoilers only say Ross is desperate and begs for his job back from Cain. I think Cain is going to be very mean and angry with Ross over everything Ross has done. Yes, Ross gets Moses back but he doesn't want him ("he's in the way"), so tries to use Emma or anyone else to have him. New Year's Day will still be big fun for TV viewers. Most people love to see a real baddie gets his come-uppance. What goes around comes around!

Exact details of what happens with Ross next long-term remain to be seen but the show-down of Ross meeting the destiny of his own making on New Year's Day is going to maybe be the BIG BANG from Kate Oates I've been waiting for and hoping would come for ages. Carpe Diem - Seize the day, savour the moment, live for today, the future can wait.

Alot of people love Ross though, and Ross obviously survives New Years day if hes in the spoilers.

[alcapo11]

this is true - Ross has always 'winged it' a bit in life - doing what he needs to do to get by whether good or bad

The reason I like him is because of his humour, people hate him one minute then he will drop a line and people will love him. A loveable villain is hard to come by and Emmerdale have a few.

[alcapo11]

this is true - Ross has always 'winged it' a bit in life - doing what he needs to do to get by whether good or bad

The reason I like him is because of his humour, people hate him one minute then he will drop a line and people will love him. A loveable villain is hard to come by and Emmerdale have a few.

[Telly Watcher]

Alot of people love Ross though, and Ross obviously survives New Years day if hes in the spoilers.

Yes, Ross survives New Year's Day but his life's a mess.

Your statement "Alot of people love Ross though" isn't easy to put a number on. For example, there only seem to be about 4 Ross fans who post on this soapboards forum. I am one of the ex-Ross fans who post on this soapboards forum.

The recent awards obtained by the actor don't give any clear numbers either. I'll quickly say something about the recent DS Reader Awards as an example.

The DS Reader Awards are more-or-less fun awards from a public popularity poll. These are soapland awards, not the Oscars. The votes for the Oscars come from established actors and are strictly controlled so there is one vote only per voter, and in the Oscars "Best Actor" really is meant to mean "Best Acting" (but even actors have different views about what is good acting and bad acting!) . The DS Reader Awards (and the Inside Soap Awards, etc) get votes from the UK general public, so just about anything seems to go and "Best Actor" award is not the same as a "Best Acting" award. Sometimes the person who wins can't really act for toffee but seems to just appeal to fans after make-up and a hairdo. So it looks like, yet again in 2015, the public voted for the "exciting bad boy" for who plays Ross Barton. Of course, the awards results don't say how many votes were made in total, so were there a total of 1000 votes, 10,000 votes, 20,000 votes, more? We only know the % split between nominations. Mike Parr got 17% for "Best Actor" (=for his hairdo?), so did he get 170 votes, 1,700 votes, 3,400 votes, more? We don't know. And Adam Woodyatt was a near second at 16% of the vote. We also don't know if anyone voted more than once for any category like "Best Actor". As far I know, multiple votes can be made by any voter who is bothered to make them (as fans are more likely to). There are other problems too with the voting for these fun awards so we'll never really be able to be sure how popular any of the nominations were for the regular 5million+ TV viewers for each episode of Emmerdale/Corrie/EastEnders, as we don't even know how many viewers voted once and only once. In any case, winning the "Best Actor" award in the DS Reader Awards does not mean "Best Acting" award, maybe more like "Most Popular Actor" award for the people who bothered to vote would be a more accurate title.

To sum up, if it's a soapland award, then it isn't an Oscar, so the phrase "Must try harder" comes to mind.

Your Soap Winners of 2015...victors in the Digital Spy Reader Awards 2015.
By Daniel Kilkelly, Digital Spy
25 December 2015
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a778009/your-soap-winners-of-2015-emmerdale-eastenders-whodunit-and-hollyoaks-classroom-clinch/

[JessicaMad]

the only slightly non-reality bit will be how after months is there any evidence in Debbie's house to link Ross to the shooting of Robert?

Ross visited Debbie's house around that time briefly but wasn't living there, either Debbie never cleans up, or Ross has just left the gun etc lying on the coffee table
If they find Ross' passport and discover that Ross left the country on the night of the shooting surely that would raise some alarm bells?

[alcapo11]

Yes, Ross survives New Year's Day but his life's a mess.

Your statement \\"Alot of people love Ross though\\" isn't easy to put a number on. For example, there only seem to be about 4 Ross fans who post on this soapboards forum. I am one of the ex-Ross fans who post on this soapboards forum.

The recent awards obtained by the actor don't give any clear numbers either. I'll quickly say something about the recent DS Reader Awards as an example.

The DS Reader Awards are more-or-less fun awards from a public popularity poll. These are soapland awards, not the Oscars. The votes for the Oscars come from established actors and are strictly controlled so there is one vote only per voter, and in the Oscars \\"Best Actor\\" really is meant to mean \\"Best Acting\\" (but even actors have different views about what is good acting and bad acting!) . The DS Reader Awards (and the Inside Soap Awards, etc) get votes from the UK general public, so just about anything seems to go and \\"Best Actor\\" award is not the same as a \\"Best Acting\\" award. Sometimes the person who wins can't really act for toffee but seems to just appeal to fans after make-up and a hairdo. So it looks like, yet again in 2015, the public voted for the \\"exciting bad boy\\" for who plays Ross Barton. Of course, the awards results don't say how many votes were made in total, so were there a total of 1000 votes, 10,000 votes, 20,000 votes, more? We only know the % split between nominations. Mike Parr got 17% for \\"Best Actor\\" (=for his hairdo?), so did he get 170 votes, 1,700 votes, 3,400 votes, more? We don't know. And Adam Woodyatt was a near second at 16% of the vote. We also don't know if anyone voted more than once for any category like \\"Best Actor\\". As far I know, multiple votes can be made by any voter who is bothered to make them (as fans are more likely to). There are other problems too with the voting for these fun awards so we'll never really be able to be sure how popular any of the nominations were for the regular 5million+ TV viewers for each episode of Emmerdale/Corrie/EastEnders, as we don't even know how many viewers voted once and only once. In any case, winning the \\"Best Actor\\" award in the DS Reader Awards does not mean \\"Best Acting\\" award, maybe more like \\"Most Popular Actor\\" award would be a more accurate title.

To sum up, if it's a soapland award, then it isn't an Oscar, so the phrase \\"Must try harder\\" comes to mind.

Your Soap Winners of 2015...victors in the Digital Spy Reader Awards 2015.
By Daniel Kilkelly, Digital Spy
25 December 2015
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a778009/your-soap-winners-of-2015-emmerdale-eastenders-whodunit-and-hollyoaks-classroom-clinch/

He still gets the most votes, and it isnt based on looks for many people its the fact Michael Parr is a good actor. Also of course its not an oscar as Emmerdale is not a film, you dont like Ross yes but you cant deny he doesn't have alot of fans. The only people that dont seem to like Ross are Robron fans from what I see on twitter and facebook and that was only after the shooting.

[alcapo11]

Anyway forget popularity and awards, Ross has always been hated by those in the village but he doesn't seem to care. The only thing that will change is that people will have a reason to hate him. Aslong as Ross has Finn and his mum he wont care, he has even bonded with Moses but loosing Debbie will probably halt there relationship.

[Telly Watcher]

He still gets the most votes, and it isnt based on looks for many people its the fact Michael Parr is a good actor. Also of course its not an oscar as Emmerdale is not a film, you dont like Ross yes but you cant deny he doesn't have alot of fans. The only people that dont seem to like Ross are Robron fans from what I see on twitter and facebook and that was only after the shooting.

Some of what you write is about opinion, such as "it isnt based on looks for many people its the fact Michael Parr is a good actor". Everyone has an opinion but it isn't always based on fact or even right. "for many people"=how many? "good actor"=in what way and based on what personal experience of acting?

As for getting the most votes, there just aren't any confident numbers around. For example, this soapboards forum gets read by thousands of readers but there are, with any luck, maybe 100 posters. We don't know what the "silent thousands" think on this forum but they are by far the big majority of readers here. The same goes for soapawards. An avid fan could vote 10, 20, more times for their fave. But still no-one knows what the "silent ones" (most likely in the majority) think because they didn't vote. The DS Reader Awards were also poorly publicised, I only found out about them about a week before voting closed and I read Digital Spy every day! (The new format spoils finding things though, that's one reason for me not knowing sooner).

The point I was making about an Oscar was that the voting system for this is very strict. Winning an Oscar has real value of achievement because other actors have voted once each for you. The soapawards are just for fun, as is the fun voting system. Yes, Mike Parr won this time, but we'll never really know why. Saying it was for good acting is just guessing, we just don't know what members of the public were thinking of when they voted. Social media answers from people who answer questions about Mike Parr are nearly always something like "ooo, he's fit" or "he's gawjus", whereas "he's a good actor" is very rarely mentioned. If you check out places like Emmerdale Facebook you'll see what I mean on this.

All we know is that Mike Parr won "Best Actor" award, as voted for by some members of the public. We don't know how many voted. I'm guessing most were fans of his and I reckon the majority of viewers were silent and didn't vote at all for anyone. To me, he won "Most Popular Actor" award in a fun public opinion popularity poll with a fun voting system and a fun outcome. It wasn't serious, it was just for fun, and in my opinion his appearance was a factor in his selection by at least some of the voters.

Anyway, enough about awards. Let's see what happens in the next episodes this week.

[Telly Watcher]

If they find Ross' passport and discover that Ross left the country on the night of the shooting surely that would raise some alarm bells?

That's one possibility.

I was thinking along the lines of the police search of Debbie's house revealing Ross has a pair of shoes/boots which have a distinctive tread which matches the partial footprint found in soil behind Pear Tree Cottage after Robert was shot on 25th September.

Just how this could be used to exactly time when it was left there is one question, although if it was a fresh print and a detailed soil sample/plaster cast was taken just after the shooting then this would help, especially if Ross didn't clean his boots/shoes after the shooting and some of the dried soil type is still on them?

We're maybe overthinking things again? More likely to be a simple explanation in the end, as usual!

[sarah c]

If they find Ross' passport and discover that Ross left the country on the night of the shooting surely that would raise some alarm bells?

you honestly believe our border control is good enough to show exit movement???

[JessicaMad]

you honestly believe our border control is good enough to show exit movement???

Soaps like to bend reality.

[lizann]

I wonder if Ross proposes to Debbie before she leaves or whether she finds out before he has the chance. Im interested to see the way Ross is treated after every one finds out, he will probably be barred from the Wolpack, he will have no job. He does however go back to live with his family though by the sounds of the spoilers so at least it isn't Ross vs everyone.

robert may not say he was shot by ross to protect andy so only debbie, pete and andy know

[rossfan]

robert may not say he was shot by ross to protect andy so only debbie, pete and andy know

Yeah I think that's what will happen.

[rossfan]

robert may not say he was shot by ross to protect andy so only debbie, pete and andy know

Yeah I think that's what will happen.

[rossfan]

I've noticed Michael's tweeted about tonight's episode. So it should definetly be worth it! :)

[alcapo11]

Yeah I think that's what will happen.

Cain and Moira will now and Chas find out aswell

[JessicaMad]

I've noticed Michael's tweeted about tonight's episode. So it should definetly be worth it! :)
His tweet isn't showing up for me, what does it say? I've been refreshing my Twitter feed.

[rossfan]

great episode tonight!

I'm thinking Debbie covers for Ross again. Ross was in the pub anyways that day when Debbie was breaking up with him, so he can use that as an excuse as to why there were foot prints around at that time.

[rossfan]

great episode tonight!

I'm thinking Debbie covers for Ross again. Ross was in the pub anyways that day when Debbie was breaking up with him, so he can use that as an excuse as to why there were foot prints around at that time.

[alcapo11]

great episode tonight!

I'm thinking Debbie covers for Ross again. Ross was in the pub anyways that day when Debbie was breaking up with him, so he can use that as an excuse as to why there were foot prints around at that time.

Yeah the evidence wouldn't be substantial enough plus he doesn't match Roberts fake description.

[alcapo11]

great episode tonight!

I'm thinking Debbie covers for Ross again. Ross was in the pub anyways that day when Debbie was breaking up with him, so he can use that as an excuse as to why there were foot prints around at that time.

Yeah the evidence wouldn't be substantial enough plus he doesn't match Roberts fake description.

[alcapo11]

I seen loads of Robron fans on twitter tonight calling Ross evil for shooting and framing Robert. First of all Ross didn't frame Aaron, he dropped the gun and Aaron being theidiot that he is picked it up tthinking it was his mum who did it.Also SOME seem to have completely forget what Robert has done himself. What happened to just enjoying the show and the frame instead of starting up these weird and unhealthy fandom's.

[kennedyfan86]

I seen loads of Robron fans on twitter tonight calling Ross evil for shooting and framing Robert. First of all Ross didn't frame Aaron, he dropped the gun and Aaron being theidiot that he is picked it up tthinking it was his mum who did it.Also SOME seem to have completely forget what Robert has done himself. What happened to just enjoying the show and the frame instead of starting up these weird and unhealthy fandom's.

People get too tied up in the storylines, it's all very well enjoying but people really cross fiction with reality, they need to remember these are contracted actors playing characters, playing being the operative word, their real lives are far removed from their characters, they probably barely even know each other, it's just like any other job, they get in, get the filming done as quickly as possible and out to do what they want, the only difference is they get recognised for their job and paid a hell of a lot more

[kennedyfan86]

I seen loads of Robron fans on twitter tonight calling Ross evil for shooting and framing Robert. First of all Ross didn't frame Aaron, he dropped the gun and Aaron being theidiot that he is picked it up tthinking it was his mum who did it.Also SOME seem to have completely forget what Robert has done himself. What happened to just enjoying the show and the frame instead of starting up these weird and unhealthy fandom's.

People get too tied up in the storylines, it's all very well enjoying but people really cross fiction with reality, they need to remember these are contracted actors playing characters, playing being the operative word, their real lives are far removed from their characters, they probably barely even know each other, it's just like any other job, they get in, get the filming done as quickly as possible and out to do what they want, the only difference is they get recognised for their job and paid a hell of a lot more

[lizann]

ross being smart showing his own trainers and now he will get himself caught for shooting robert :p

[alcapo11]

ross being smart showing his own trainers and now he will get himself caught for shooting robert :p

He doesn't, Debbie gives him an alibi plus Robert already gave a fake description of the shooter.

[alcapo11]

ross being smart showing his own trainers and now he will get himself caught for shooting robert :p

He doesn't, Debbie gives him an alibi plus Robert already gave a fake description of the shooter.

[rossfan]

slightly off topic here but:

‘EastEnders’ fans have been taking a few tips from ‘Emmerdale’ devotees, launching a petition calling for Ricky Norwood’s character Fatboy to be reinstated.

During last week’s Boxing Day episode, fans found out Fatboy had been killed following a mix-up by Ronnie’s hitmen and many weren’t happy with the fact we won’t be seeing Ricky on screen again.

Now, a petition has started, much like the one which called for Michael Parr to return to ‘Emmerdale’, when he appeared to killed off-screen during the #SummerFate episodes.

Naturally, Ricky’s delighted with fans’ efforts, though it’s fair to say that the signatures aren’t exactly rolling in...

His character’s death is currently a secret in the Square, and Vincent and Claudette are the only ones who know the truth.

After discovering Fatboy’s body, Vincent decided not to tell Ronnie that he was dead, and instead lied, telling her the hitmen had conned her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/29/eastenders-fatboy_n_8888898.html

[rossfan]

slightly off topic here but:

‘EastEnders’ fans have been taking a few tips from ‘Emmerdale’ devotees, launching a petition calling for Ricky Norwood’s character Fatboy to be reinstated.

During last week’s Boxing Day episode, fans found out Fatboy had been killed following a mix-up by Ronnie’s hitmen and many weren’t happy with the fact we won’t be seeing Ricky on screen again.

Now, a petition has started, much like the one which called for Michael Parr to return to ‘Emmerdale’, when he appeared to killed off-screen during the #SummerFate episodes.

Naturally, Ricky’s delighted with fans’ efforts, though it’s fair to say that the signatures aren’t exactly rolling in...

His character’s death is currently a secret in the Square, and Vincent and Claudette are the only ones who know the truth.

After discovering Fatboy’s body, Vincent decided not to tell Ronnie that he was dead, and instead lied, telling her the hitmen had conned her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/29/eastenders-fatboy_n_8888898.html

[alcapo11]

slightly off topic here but:

‘EastEnders’ fans have been taking a few tips from ‘Emmerdale’ devotees, launching a petition calling for Ricky Norwood’s character Fatboy to be reinstated.

During last week’s Boxing Day episode, fans found out Fatboy had been killed following a mix-up by Ronnie’s hitmen and many weren’t happy with the fact we won’t be seeing Ricky on screen again.

Now, a petition has started, much like the one which called for Michael Parr to return to ‘Emmerdale’, when he appeared to killed off-screen during the #SummerFate episodes.

Naturally, Ricky’s delighted with fans’ efforts, though it’s fair to say that the signatures aren’t exactly rolling in...

His character’s death is currently a secret in the Square, and Vincent and Claudette are the only ones who know the truth.

After discovering Fatboy’s body, Vincent decided not to tell Ronnie that he was dead, and instead lied, telling her the hitmen had conned her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/29/eastenders-fatboy_n_8888898.html

Petitions dont work, it was always the plan for Ross to come back.

[alcapo11]

slightly off topic here but:

‘EastEnders’ fans have been taking a few tips from ‘Emmerdale’ devotees, launching a petition calling for Ricky Norwood’s character Fatboy to be reinstated.

During last week’s Boxing Day episode, fans found out Fatboy had been killed following a mix-up by Ronnie’s hitmen and many weren’t happy with the fact we won’t be seeing Ricky on screen again.

Now, a petition has started, much like the one which called for Michael Parr to return to ‘Emmerdale’, when he appeared to killed off-screen during the #SummerFate episodes.

Naturally, Ricky’s delighted with fans’ efforts, though it’s fair to say that the signatures aren’t exactly rolling in...

His character’s death is currently a secret in the Square, and Vincent and Claudette are the only ones who know the truth.

After discovering Fatboy’s body, Vincent decided not to tell Ronnie that he was dead, and instead lied, telling her the hitmen had conned her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/29/eastenders-fatboy_n_8888898.html

Petitions dont work, it was always the plan for Ross to come back.

[kennedyfan86]

Petitions dont work, it was always the plan for Ross to come back.

Producers very rarely listen to what viewers want anyway, they always have their own agendas, if it was the case viewers would be running the shows

[kennedyfan86]

Petitions dont work, it was always the plan for Ross to come back.

Producers very rarely listen to what viewers want anyway, they always have their own agendas, if it was the case viewers would be running the shows

[alcapo11]

Producers very rarely listen to what viewers want anyway, they always have their own agendas, if it was the case viewers would be running the shows

Yep, no wonder Mike Parr is worrying a bit about the new producer though, he is from Hollyoaks after all. I wouldnt be suprised if Ross is a serial killer by next christmas.

[alcapo11]

Producers very rarely listen to what viewers want anyway, they always have their own agendas, if it was the case viewers would be running the shows

Yep, no wonder Mike Parr is worrying a bit about the new producer though, he is from Hollyoaks after all. I wouldnt be suprised if Ross is a serial killer by next christmas.

[JessicaMad]

Yep, no wonder Mike Parr is worrying a bit about the new producer though, he is from Hollyoaks after all. I wouldnt be suprised if Ross is a serial killer by next christmas.

It's strange there's been no interviews or anything with the new producer. There's been lots of articles about Kate Oates going to Corrie but nothing about Emmerdale's new producer :hmm:

[rossfan]

It's strange there's been no interviews or anything with the new producer. There's been lots of articles about Kate Oates going to Corrie but nothing about Emmerdale's new producer :hmm:

I agree. I think it's down to itvs preferential treatment to Corrie which is a shame. In the Christmas adverts for itv I only saw Corrie. They should be treated the same.

[rossfan]

It's strange there's been no interviews or anything with the new producer. There's been lots of articles about Kate Oates going to Corrie but nothing about Emmerdale's new producer :hmm:

I agree. I think it's down to itvs preferential treatment to Corrie which is a shame. In the Christmas adverts for itv I only saw Corrie. They should be treated the same.

[alcapo11]

I agree. I think it's down to itvs preferential treatment to Corrie which is a shame. In the Christmas adverts for itv I only saw Corrie. They should be treated the same.

I cant believe all the publicity Corrie get still, the show is basically a really bad comedy at the moment.

[alcapo11]

I agree. I think it's down to itvs preferential treatment to Corrie which is a shame. In the Christmas adverts for itv I only saw Corrie. They should be treated the same.

I cant believe all the publicity Corrie get still, the show is basically a really bad comedy at the moment.

[maidmarian]

Petitions dont work, it was always the plan for Ross to come back.


Agreed.
I personally think - it was obvious from the
start -Ross was never dead.
While SWs & producers always try to pull
viewers strings- but this was worst example
yet. I couldnt believe it when looked a forum
after programme - that so many had believed
it!!

[JessicaMad]

I cant believe all the publicity Corrie get still, the show is basically a really bad comedy at the moment.
Exactly. It's worse than a cheesy 70s sitcom. I don't care about stupid plots like Aiden's socks.

[rossfan]

Michael has mentioned in several interviews and his "comeback" video that he was always going to return, so the petition didn't actually have an affect on anything. However I think that Michael indirectly has started a new method for fans to reach out which I am so pleased for him.

That's why I thought I would post the article about EastEnders, as it mentioned Michael as the "originator" for this type of support.

[rossfan]

Michael has mentioned in several interviews and his "comeback" video that he was always going to return, so the petition didn't actually have an affect on anything. However I think that Michael indirectly has started a new method for fans to reach out which I am so pleased for him.

That's why I thought I would post the article about EastEnders, as it mentioned Michael as the "originator" for this type of support.

[rossfan]

Exactly. It's worse than a cheesy 70s sitcom. I don't care about stupid plots like Aiden's socks.

Lol I caught that episode. I don't watch it all the time.

[rossfan]

Exactly. It's worse than a cheesy 70s sitcom. I don't care about stupid plots like Aiden's socks.

Lol I caught that episode. I don't watch it all the time.

[alcapo11]

I hope the new producer doesn't ruin Ross character, I think we have seen the worst of him now. It will be interesting to see if he reunites Ross and Debbie when she gets back.

[alcapo11]

A few people have speculated that Carly is pregnant, as Ross is the only person she has slept with since her character arrived it may well be Ross' baby. They may do a twist and reveal she slept with someone else of course but with Debbie leaving and Carly getting a new love interest it might make sense to be Ross again.

[JessicaMad]

A few people have speculated that Carly is pregnant, as Ross is the only person she has slept with since her character arrived it may well be Ross' baby. They may do a twist and reveal she slept with someone else of course but with Debbie leaving and Carly getting a new love interest it might make sense to be Ross again.
Yeah people were talking about it on DS as Carly was acting strange around baby Jhonny in recent episodes. I think it's more likely she had a baby in the past that died. She last slept with Ross in July so she'd be quite far along by now.

[alcapo11]

Yeah people were talking about it on DS as Carly was acting strange around baby Jhonny in recent episodes. I think it's more likely she had a baby in the past that died. She last slept with Ross in July so she'd be quite far along by now.

It's strange though, as she has spent lots of time with April without acting weirdly. I know April isn't a baby but she is still a child, so you would think being around her would be a constant reminder of the child she had.

[alcapo11]

Yeah people were talking about it on DS as Carly was acting strange around baby Jhonny in recent episodes. I think it's more likely she had a baby in the past that died. She last slept with Ross in July so she'd be quite far along by now.

It's strange though, as she has spent lots of time with April without acting weirdly. I know April isn't a baby but she is still a child, so you would think being around her would be a constant reminder of the child she had.

[JessicaMad]

It's strange though, as she has spent lots of time with April without acting weirdly. I know April isn't a baby but she is still a child, so you would think being around her would be a constant reminder of the child she had.

That's true...

[alcapo11]

So what future storyines would people like to see for Ross?

[rossfan]

So what future storyines would people like to see for Ross?

Definitely bond with Moses and maybe help Finn find a boyfriend.

I would also like to have a bit of back history to Ross. There were 2-3 years when Ross had no contact with his brothers and dad (when he first joined the show), so anything could have happened? Maybe already married and divorced? Could be an interesting twist/secret. Maybe Ross has got a mentor who shaped him to the way he is today. That could lead to a bit of jelousy for James if Ross looks up to someone.

[rossfan]

So what future storyines would people like to see for Ross?

Definitely bond with Moses and maybe help Finn find a boyfriend.

I would also like to have a bit of back history to Ross. There were 2-3 years when Ross had no contact with his brothers and dad (when he first joined the show), so anything could have happened? Maybe already married and divorced? Could be an interesting twist/secret. Maybe Ross has got a mentor who shaped him to the way he is today. That could lead to a bit of jelousy for James if Ross looks up to someone.

[alcapo11]

Definitely bond with Moses and maybe help Finn find a boyfriend.

I would also like to have a bit of back history to Ross. There were 2-3 years when Ross depression contact with his brothers and dad (when he first joined the show), so anything could have happened? Maybe already married and divorced? Could be an interesting twist/secret. Maybe Ross has got a mentor who shaped him to the way he is today. That could lead to a bit of jelousy for James if Ross looks up to someone.

I'm hoping that James isn't really his dad, I'm thinking maybe the reason Emma tried to kill Ross was because he was the result of an affair. So she may of made up the post natal depresion story. This may also explain why Ross is nothing like his dad or brothers. Just a theory.

[alcapo11]

Definitely bond with Moses and maybe help Finn find a boyfriend.

I would also like to have a bit of back history to Ross. There were 2-3 years when Ross depression contact with his brothers and dad (when he first joined the show), so anything could have happened? Maybe already married and divorced? Could be an interesting twist/secret. Maybe Ross has got a mentor who shaped him to the way he is today. That could lead to a bit of jelousy for James if Ross looks up to someone.

I'm hoping that James isn't really his dad, I'm thinking maybe the reason Emma tried to kill Ross was because he was the result of an affair. So she may of made up the post natal depresion story. This may also explain why Ross is nothing like his dad or brothers. Just a theory.

[rossfan]

Great episode tonight!

I suspected that Debbie would cover him but I don't understand why Ross didn't just point out he had been in the pub earlier in the day.

Looks exciting now that Robert suspects Ross!.

[rossfan]

Great episode tonight!

I suspected that Debbie would cover him but I don't understand why Ross didn't just point out he had been in the pub earlier in the day.

Looks exciting now that Robert suspects Ross!.

[rossfan]

I've just come across this review of a play Michael Parr did back in 2009 (called Studies For A Portrait)

"Michael Parr displays fine acting as Justin, and brings a much needed lift to scenes that sometimes dip."
http://www.uktheatre.net/magazine/read/studies-for-a-portrait-------------------oval-house-theatre_185.html

He still provides that now. He's got star quality. Really.

[JessicaMad]

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a778447/emmerdale-spoilers-dingle-disaster-as-ross-bartons-plans-to-propose-to-debbie-go-wrong-tonight/

Tbh I'm going to find the whole proposal thing quite cringey to watch knowing what is coming next. Plus I've never imagined Ross as that kind of person.

[lizann]

I'm hoping that James isn't really his dad, I'm thinking maybe the reason Emma tried to kill Ross was because he was the result of an affair. So she may of made up the post natal depresion story. This may also explain why Ross is nothing like his dad or brothers. Just a theory.

maybe if it weren't done already with adam

[lizann]

I'm hoping that James isn't really his dad, I'm thinking maybe the reason Emma tried to kill Ross was because he was the result of an affair. So she may of made up the post natal depresion story. This may also explain why Ross is nothing like his dad or brothers. Just a theory.

maybe if it weren't done already with adam

[alcapo11]

maybe if it weren't done already with adam

Yeah but the Adam storyline was tedius and we seen no outcome. What was the point in making James Adams dad? Adam is never seen bonding with James or his brothers. I think we may see more of Adam and Ross though as Debbie leaves and Adam finds out Johnny isn't his. Maybe they can bond over there tragic lives.

[alcapo11]

maybe if it weren't done already with adam

Yeah but the Adam storyline was tedious and we seen no outcome. What was the point in making James Adams dad? Adam is never seen bonding with James or his brothers. I think we may see more of Adam and Ross though as Debbie leaves and Adam finds out Johnny isn't his. Maybe they can bond over there tragic lives.

[alcapo11]

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a778447/emmerdale-spoilers-dingle-disaster-as-ross-bartons-plans-to-propose-to-debbie-go-wrong-tonight/

Tbh I'm going to find the whole proposal thing quite cringey to watch knowing what is coming next. Plus I've never imagined Ross as that kind of person.

I don't think the proposal will happen, I think Pete will arrive just in time to tell Debbie what Ross done. Either that or Debbie hears the confession herself when Robert threatens him. When Debbie leaves I would like to see Ross with his family again, Ross and Pete living together can't be a good thing. When you think about it Ross will be living with 2 people that have tried to kill him.

[JessicaMad]

I don't think the proposal will happen, I think Pete will arrive just in time to tell Debbie what Ross done. Either that or Debbie hears the confession herself when Robert threatens him. When Debbie leaves I would like to see Ross with his family again, Ross and Pete living together can't be a good thing. When you think about it Ross will be living with 2 people that have tried to kill him.

I wonder where Ross will live though, didn't James tell Pete he could have Ross' old room?

[alcapo11]

I wonder where Ross will live though, didn't James tell Pete he could have Ross' old room?

Yeah, but the spoilers say that Emma puts pressure on Ross to fight for Moses so his family must still be talking to him. Maybe he will jus sleep on the sofa or even try to stay at Debbies.

[alcapo11]

I wonder where Ross will live though, didn't James tell Pete he could have Ross' old room?

Yeah, but the spoilers say that Emma puts pressure on Ross to fight for Moses so his family must still be talking to him. Maybe he will jus sleep on the sofa or even try to stay at Debbies.

[JessicaMad]

Yeah, but the spoilers say that Emma puts pressure on Ross to fight for Moses so his family must still be talking to him. Maybe he will jus sleep on the sofa or even try to stay at Debbies.
Yeah. The Barton household is getting very cramped. If Ross were to move in, then there would be Emma, James, Pete, Finn, Ross and Moses all in that tiny cottage.

[alcapo11]

Yeah. The Barton household is getting very cramped. If Ross were to move in, then there would be Emma, James Pete, Finn, Ross and Moses all in that tiny cottage.

Meal times would be a good laugh, they could talk about the time they have tried to kill each other and compare notes on Debbie.

[alcapo11]

Yeah. The Barton household is getting very cramped. If Ross were to move in, then there would be Emma, James Pete, Finn, Ross and Moses all in that tiny cottage.

Meal times would be a good laugh, they could talk about the times they have tried to kill each other and compare notes on Debbie.

[lizann]

pete back to the farm, ross back to andy's house with his family, pete will want to be near moira

[Dalesfan]

pete back to the farm, ross back to andy's house with his family, pete will want to be near moira

Not sure Cain would agree with Pete at the farm

[Dalesfan]

Definitely bond with Moses and maybe help Finn find a boyfriend.

I would also like to have a bit of back history to Ross. There were 2-3 years when Ross had no contact with his brothers and dad (when he first joined the show), so anything could have happened? Maybe already married and divorced? Could be an interesting twist/secret. Maybe Ross has got a mentor who shaped him to the way he is today. That could lead to a bit of jelousy for James if Ross looks up to someone.

Yea I would like them to explore this time when he had been absent from his family.

[alcapo11]

Yea I would like them to explore this time when he had been absent from his family.

I remember when Donna was once reading out a file of the crimes Ross had got away with, surely he didn't do all of them on his own. Maybe he had a boss who he still owes which may catch up with him. I really dont think we have even scratched the surface with Ross, there could be so much more to hism character.

[alcapo11]

Yea I would like them to explore this time when he had been absent from his family.

I remember when Donna was once reading out a file of the crimes Ross had got away with, surely he didn't do all of them on his own. Maybe he had a boss who he still owes which may catch up with him. I really dont think we have even scratched the surface with Ross, there could be so much more to his character.

[Dalesfan]

I remember when Donna was once reading out a file of the crimes Ross had got away with, surely he didn't do all of them on his own. Maybe he had a boss who he still owes which may catch up with him. I really dont think we have even scratched the surface with Ross, there could be so much more to hism character.

That's right. We always here about these "friends" he has elsewhere.

[alcapo11]

That's right. We always here about these "friends" he has elsewhere.

If I could create one storyline for Ross it would be him scheming to buy the Wolpack, his revenge against Robert for outing him as the shooter may be to get the pub before Robert or Aaron does. He sis bound to have quite a bit of money after all the crimes he has pulled off.

[alcapo11]

That's right. We always here about these "friends" he has elsewhere.

If I could create one storyline for Ross it would be him scheming to buy the Woolpack, his revenge against Robert for outing him as the shooter may be to get the pub before Robert or Aaron does. He sis bound to have quite a bit of money after all the crimes he has pulled off.

[alcapo11]

Wow, that episode tonight was brillaint its the most chemistry I have seen yet between Ross and Debbie. Michael Parr was outstanding.

[lizann]

Wow, that episode tonight was brillaint its the most chemistry I have seen yet between Ross and Debbie. Michael Parr was outstanding.

id marry him he looked very sexy in his suit

and again pete couldn't keep his trap shut and butt out

[lizann]

Wow, that episode tonight was brillaint its the most chemistry I have seen yet between Ross and Debbie. Michael Parr was outstanding.

id marry him he looked very sexy in his suit

and again pete couldn't keep his trap shut and butt out

[rossfan]

I am so very happy with tonight's episode! It was just brilliant. Michael Parr was yet again amazing!

[alcapo11]

id marry him he looked very sexy in his suit

and again pete couldn't keep his trap shut and butt out

Oh god I cant stand Pete, I cant believe he compared his own brother (who he tried to kill) to Cameron.

[alcapo11]

id marry him he looked very sexy in his suit

and again pete couldn't keep his trap shut and butt out

Oh god I cant stand Pete, I cant believe he compared his own brother (who he tried to kill) to Cameron.

[alcapo11]

I am so very happy with tonight's episode! It was just brilliant. Michael Parr was yet again amazing!

Yeah it reminded me of his scenes after Donna died, the chemistry was great tonight to be fair between Debbie and Ross.

[rossfan]

Yeah it reminded me of his scenes after Donna died, the chemistry was great tonight to be fair between Debbie and Ross.

Yes I was thinking that as well. I think it's up there with his performance after Donna died!

[rossfan]

Yeah it reminded me of his scenes after Donna died, the chemistry was great tonight to be fair between Debbie and Ross.

Yes I was thinking that as well. I think it's up there with his performance after Donna died!

[alcapo11]

Yes I was thinking that as well. I think it's up there with his performance after Donna died!

Even though I hate the Ross/Pete feud after tonight I just want Pete to disappear, hopefully Cain gets rid in a few weeks.

[alcapo11]

Yes I was thinking that as well. I think it's up there with his performance after Donna died!

Even though I hate the Ross/Pete feud after tonight I just want Pete to disappear, hopefully Cain gets rid in a few weeks.

[JessicaMad]

Even though I hate the Ross/Pete feud after tonight I just want Pete to disappear, hopefully Cain gets rid in a few weeks.

I'm honestly just fed up of Pete snooping around Debbie and feeling sorry for himself.

[alcapo11]

I'm honestly just fed up of Pete snooping around Debbie and feeling sorry for himself.

Pete had a drink with Ross and said he was happy for Ross to marry Debbie. 10 minutes later he is comparing him to a serial killer.

[alcapo11]

I'm honestly just fed up of Pete snooping around Debbie and feeling sorry for himself.

Pete had a drink with Ross and said he was happy for Ross to marry Debbie. 10 minutes later he is comparing him to a serial killer.

[alcapo11]

Another thing that annoyed me was when Ross poured his heart out and said how guilty he felt then Robert who actually killed someone admitted he felt nothing. Yet Ross is still the one who gets the most comeuppance.

[rossfan]

Another thing that annoyed me was when Ross poured his heart out and said how guilty he felt then Robert who actually killed someone admitted he felt nothing. Yet Ross is still the one who gets the most comeuppance.

Yeah that line stuck out to me. I wonder if that's meant to be foreshadowing of a future Robert storyline where he will kill someone else.

[rossfan]

Another thing that annoyed me was when Ross poured his heart out and said how guilty he felt then Robert who actually killed someone admitted he felt nothing. Yet Ross is still the one who gets the most comeuppance.

Yeah that line stuck out to me. I wonder if that's meant to be foreshadowing of a future Robert storyline where he will kill someone else.

[alcapo11]

Yeah that line stuck out to me. I wonder if that's meant to be foreshadowing of a future Robert storyline where he will kill someone else.

Aslong as its not Ross I would be happy with that storyline, no doubt Robron fans would still defend him though. People dont seem to remember that Robert could of easily killed Paddy aswell and was about 2 seconds away from having Chas killed. Robert is a physco.

[alcapo11]

Yeah that line stuck out to me. I wonder if that's meant to be foreshadowing of a future Robert storyline where he will kill someone else.

Aslong as its not Ross I would be happy with that storyline, no doubt Robron fans would still defend him though. People dont seem to remember that Robert could of easily killed Paddy aswell and was about 2 seconds away from having Chas killed. Robert is a physco.

[alcapo11]

The only way Robert can be redeemed is if he kills Pete.

[Serena Williams]

The only way Robert can be redeemed is if he kills Pete.

No way Pete and Robert actually helped each other without even knowing each other. I am thrilled Ross is destroyed he caused Pete so much pain. I still hate that the writers treat that slapper Debbie Dingle like she is a victim. Debbie was cruel to Pete today glad Pete destroyed her happiness telling her Ross shot Robert.

[Serena Williams]

The only way Robert can be redeemed is if he kills Pete.

No way Pete and Robert actually helped each other without even knowing each other. I am thrilled Ross is destroyed he caused Pete so much pain. I still hate that the writers treat that slapper Debbie Dingle like she is a victim. Debbie was cruel to Pete today glad Pete destroyed her happiness telling her Ross shot Robert.

[alcapo11]

No way Pete and Robert actually helped each other without even knowing each other. I am thrilled Ross is destroyed he caused Pete so much pain. I still hate that the writers treat that slapper Debbie Dingle like she is a victim. Debbie was cruel to Pete today glad Pete destroyed her happiness telling her Ross shot Robert.

Ross isn't destroyed at all, he has much left as Robert and Pete both do. Also saint Pete makes a move on his married auntie next week, wonder if he gets buried alive for having an affair? You know because that is apparently an excuse for burying your brother and leaving him for 2 weeks while trying to frame your wife's dad.

[alcapo11]

No way Pete and Robert actually helped each other without even knowing each other. I am thrilled Ross is destroyed he caused Pete so much pain. I still hate that the writers treat that slapper Debbie Dingle like she is a victim. Debbie was cruel to Pete today glad Pete destroyed her happiness telling her Ross shot Robert.

Ross isn't destroyed at all, he has much left as Robert and Pete both do. Also saint Pete makes a move on his married auntie next week, wonder if he gets buried alive for having an affair? You know because that is apparently an excuse for burying your brother and leaving him for 2 weeks while trying to frame your wife's dad.

[Dalesfan]

Yeah it reminded me of his scenes after Donna died, the chemistry was great tonight to be fair between Debbie and Ross.

First time really I have seen the chemistry. I though the scenes with Charley and Michael were great. Pete really is turning into a little grass. It's not a good look. No idea where they are taking his character. He has become a bit of a loner. Not sure if it's just because he hasn't been in it much though? I can't wait for the stuff with Moira just to wipe the smugness from his face

[alcapo11]

First time really I have seen the chemistry. I though the scenes with Charley and Michael were great. Pete really is turning into a little grass. It's not a good look. No idea where they are taking his character. He has become a bit of a loner. Not sure if it's just because he hasn't been in it much though? I can't wait for the stuff with Moira just to wipe the smugness from his face

Yeah I think it's because the whole affair thing was rushed, sometimes it takes a while for the chemistry to shine through. Until tonight I didn't really like Ross and Debbie together but I seen potential in the last episode.

[alcapo11]

First time really I have seen the chemistry. I though the scenes with Charley and Michael were great. Pete really is turning into a little grass. It's not a good look. No idea where they are taking his character. He has become a bit of a loner. Not sure if it's just because he hasn't been in it much though? I can't wait for the stuff with Moira just to wipe the smugness from his face

Yeah I think it's because the whole affair thing was rushed, sometimes it takes a while for the chemistry to shine through. Until tonight I didn't really like Ross and Debbie together but I seen potential in the last episode.

[alcapo11]

I also agree about Pete he is a shocking character, Ross can afford to do bad stuff as people like him and he is genuinely funny but Pete is just an utter bore with extreme anger problems. I hope Ross kicks Pete out when he moves back into Andy's.

[rossfan]

I also agree about Pete he is a shocking character, Ross can afford to do bad stuff as people like him and he is genuinely funny but Pete is just an utter bore with extreme anger problems. I hope Ross kicks Pete out when he moves back into Andy's.

Pete, whilst might not be as exciting as Ross for a TV character, he is needed for the show. He is very much "Emmerdale Farm" classic type of character.

[rossfan]

So tonight is Charley's last episode until she comes back off maternity leave.

Does anyone else think that there's going to be signs Debbie might be pregnant? Vomiting? Dizzy?

[rossfan]

So tonight is Charley's last episode until she comes back off maternity leave.

Does anyone else think that there's going to be signs Debbie might be pregnant? Vomiting? Dizzy?

[JessicaMad]

So tonight is Charley's last episode until she comes back off maternity leave.

Does anyone else think that there's going to be signs Debbie might be pregnant? Vomiting? Dizzy?
I hope not. It'd be to repetitive, Charity gave birth to Ross' child while Emma Atkins was on maternity leave, it'd be stupid if they did the exact same thing with Debbie.

[rossfan]

I hope not. It'd be to repetitive, Charity gave birth to Ross' child while Emma Atkins was on maternity leave, it'd be stupid if they did the exact same thing with Debbie.

I think, long term story telling wise, Charity/Moses was an obstacle that Debbie and Ross had to overcome. I have no doubt in my mind that when Ross was brought in by KO that Ross and Debbie were meant to be together.

It wouldn't surprise me if Debbie does get pregnant and should KO have remained as producer, they would be together when Charley comes back. We'll have to see where the next producer takes them.

[rossfan]

I hope not. It'd be to repetitive, Charity gave birth to Ross' child while Emma Atkins was on maternity leave, it'd be stupid if they did the exact same thing with Debbie.

I think, long term story telling wise, Charity/Moses was an obstacle that Debbie and Ross had to overcome. I have no doubt in my mind that when Ross was brought in by KO that Ross and Debbie were meant to be together.

It wouldn't surprise me if Debbie does get pregnant and should KO have remained as producer, they would be together when Charley comes back. We'll have to see where the next producer takes them.

[JessicaMad]

I think, long term story telling wise, Charity/Moses was an obstacle that Debbie and Ross had to overcome. I have no doubt in my mind that when Ross was brought in by KO that Ross and Debbie were meant to be together.

It wouldn't surprise me if Debbie does get pregnant and should KO have remained as producer, they would be together when Charley comes back. We'll have to see where the next producer takes them.
I can see why they would make Debbie pregnant for storylines, but would it really work? Would they give Debbie another child? Would Debbie even keep the baby if she found out she was pregnant? I can't imagine her wanting to keep the child of a man who shot someone.

[alcapo11]

I think, long term story telling wise, Charity/Moses was an obstacle that Debbie and Ross had to overcome. I have no doubt in my mind that when Ross was brought in by KO that Ross and Debbie were meant to be together.

It wouldn't surprise me if Debbie does get pregnant and should KO have remained as producer, they would be together when Charley comes back. We'll have to see where the next producer takes them.

Aslong as they dont rush anything again, the chemistry lately has been good between Debbie and Ross but I think he still needs a break from her. I can definitely see her being pregnant, when the car drives away she will probably rub her stomach or have a scan pic in her hand.

[alcapo11]

I can see why they would make Debbie pregnant for storylines, but would it really work? Would they give Debbie another child? Would Debbie even keep the baby if she found out she was pregnant? I can't imagine her wanting to keep the child of a man who shot someone.

She has Andys kids, he has shot people, killed someone and beat he has beat a woman before. Ross is a thug but he isn't evil Debbie will know that.

[alcapo11]

I can see why they would make Debbie pregnant for storylines, but would it really work? Would they give Debbie another child? Would Debbie even keep the baby if she found out she was pregnant? I can't imagine her wanting to keep the child of a man who shot someone.

She has Andys kids, he has shot people, killed someone and beat he has beat a woman before. Ross is a thug but he isn't evil Debbie will know that.

[Perdita]

She has Andys kids, he has shot people, killed someone and beat he has beat a woman before. Ross is a thug but he isn't evil Debbie will know that.

So killing someone, shooting someone and beating a woman does not make a man evil?

[alcapo11]

So killing someone, shooting someone and beating a woman does not make a man evil?

I was talking about Andy not Ross, its a soap and Emmerdale have managed to redeem Andy into a normal enough character. In reality that would make someone evil imo but its a soap so who cares?

[alcapo11]

So killing someone, shooting someone and beating a woman does not make a man evil?

I was talking about Andy not Ross, its a soap and Emmerdale have managed to redeem Andy into a normal enough character. In reality that would make someone evil imo but its a soap so who cares?

[rossfan]

Wow surprised there was no hint in the show that Debbie was pregnant. I wonder what reason Debbie will have to come back.

[JessicaMad]

Wow surprised there was no hint in the show that Debbie was pregnant. I wonder what reason Debbie will have to come back.
Maybe Sarah's cancer returns and that makes Debbie come back.

[alcapo11]

Wow surprised there was no hint in the show that Debbie was pregnant. I wonder what reason Debbie will have to come back.

One of the Dingles will probably get in trouble or have an accident, Debbie will return with the intention to just stay for a bit but Ross will probably find a way to make her stay. That's my theory.

[alcapo11]

Wow surprised there was no hint in the show that Debbie was pregnant. I wonder what reason Debbie will have to come back.

One of the Dingles will probably get in trouble or have an accident, Debbie will return with the intention to just stay for a bit but Ross will probably find a way to make her stay. That's my theory.

[tammyy2j]

I wonder who Ross will blame and want revenge on now next, Andy, Robert, Pete or Cain

[alcapo11]

I wonder who Ross will blame and want revenge on now next, Andy, Robert, Pete or Cain

He doesn't need to take revenge on anyone, he has enough dirt on all of them to take them down. Ross might go off the rails a bit but in time I think he will be a good dad to Moses.

[alcapo11]

I wonder who Ross will blame and want revenge on now next, Andy, Robert, Pete or Cain

He doesn't need to take revenge on anyone, he has enough dirt on all of them to take them down. Ross might go off the rails a bit but in time I think he will be a good dad to Moses.

[Dalesfan]

I know Charity is Moses mum and all that but why is it any different leaving him with her for when she gets out or with Ross? Moses has spent a lot of time with Ross lately but yet Debbie is quite ok for him to stay with her when she gets out of prison but not Ross who has at least bonded with his son?

Also Ross didn't seem to say anything when Robert said about killing Katie? Wonder if this will come up again in the future and is one of the other things Ross has over somebody

[Telly Watcher]

He doesn't need to take revenge on anyone, he has enough dirt on all of them to take them down. Ross might go off the rails a bit but in time I think he will be a good dad to Moses.

Hello, Mike...

Ross is too pathetic to be successful in any numpty plan of his. Bye...

[Ruffed_lemur]

I can see why they would make Debbie pregnant for storylines, but would it really work? Would they give Debbie another child? Would Debbie even keep the baby if she found out she was pregnant? I can't imagine her wanting to keep the child of a man who shot someone.

I can. Whoever the father is, it is HER child.

[rossfan]

yes and last night's episode showed that Debbie still loves Ross. That's why she left because she felt she might not be able to resist the temptation of getting back together with him.

[JessicaMad]

I can. Whoever the father is, it is HER child.
Fair enough, I was just looking at some of the possibilities storylinewise.

[rossfan]

So we know next week Ross gets Moses back but what do you think Ross' next storylines will be?

[JessicaMad]

So we know next week Ross gets Moses back but what do you think Ross' next storylines will be?
When Charity gets back she'll probably take Moses leading to a custody battle. Also wasn't their an article a few months ago saying Ross would have a long standing feud with Nikhil?
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/618713/Emmerdale-Rik-Makarem-Michael-Parr-Nikhil-Ross-Barton-new-storyline

Obviously Nikhil isn't staying permanently but this article was published after Ross punched Nikhil so it must be referring to something in the future.

[alcapo11]

So we know next week Ross gets Moses back but what do you think Ross' next storylines will be?

I that k Ross and Charity will work together to find money and maybe go into business together, I also think Ross will find proof that Robert killed Katie and blackmail him leading to a proper rivalry. I'm now awaiting Telly Watcher to tell me how Ross has no chance against the desperate physcho Robert.

[rossfan]

When Charity gets back she'll probably take Moses leading to a custody battle. Also wasn't their an article a few months ago saying Ross would have a long standing feud with Nikhil?
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/618713/Emmerdale-Rik-Makarem-Michael-Parr-Nikhil-Ross-Barton-new-storyline

Obviously Nikhil isn't staying permanently but this article was published after Ross punched Nikhil so it must be referring to something in the future.

Yeah i read that when it came out which according to the link, it was Wed, Nov 11, 2015.

I thought either they dropped that idea or that article was written really early conisdering. I wonder if it will still be going ahead.

[rossfan]

When Charity gets back she'll probably take Moses leading to a custody battle. Also wasn't their an article a few months ago saying Ross would have a long standing feud with Nikhil?
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/618713/Emmerdale-Rik-Makarem-Michael-Parr-Nikhil-Ross-Barton-new-storyline

Obviously Nikhil isn't staying permanently but this article was published after Ross punched Nikhil so it must be referring to something in the future.

Yeah i read that when it came out which according to the link, it was Wed, Nov 11, 2015.

I thought either they dropped that idea or that article was written really early conisdering. I wonder if it will still be going ahead.

[Dalesfan]

I don't really see what feud him and Nikhil would have now seeing as Debbie has gone. They shouldn't even really cross paths. I wonder how much truth to the article there was unless like said above the idea has been dropped.

I think he will probably be dealing with Charity and his mum next. The on going feud with Moses. Emma already asked what was going to happen with Moses so the seeds have been planted. Also Pete is supposedly going to prison. Do we really believe that? Although the way Ross is going to be is he even going to care or be involved with that. Them all living together could be interesting. If that is where is going to be

[alcapo11]

I don't really see what feud him and Nikhil would have now seeing as Debbie has gone. They shouldn't even really cross paths. I wonder how much truth to the article there was unless like said above the idea has been dropped.

I think he will probably be dealing with Charity and his mum next. The on going feud with Moses. Emma already asked what was going to happen with Moses so the seeds have been planted. Also Pete is supposedly going to prison. Do we really believe that? Although the way Ross is going to be is he even going to care or be involved with that. Them all living together could be interesting. If that is where is going to be

When Charity ets out she may want revenge against Jai and the sharmas so she may team up with Ross to get the factory or something? That would lead to a feud with Nikhll.

[alcapo11]

I don't really see what feud him and Nikhil would have now seeing as Debbie has gone. They shouldn't even really cross paths. I wonder how much truth to the article there was unless like said above the idea has been dropped.

I think he will probably be dealing with Charity and his mum next. The on going feud with Moses. Emma already asked what was going to happen with Moses so the seeds have been planted. Also Pete is supposedly going to prison. Do we really believe that? Although the way Ross is going to be is he even going to care or be involved with that. Them all living together could be interesting. If that is where is going to be

When Charity ets out she may want revenge against Jai and the sharmas so she may team up with Ross to get the factory or something? That would lead to a feud with Nikhll.

[alcapo11]

I don't really see what feud him and Nikhil would have now seeing as Debbie has gone. They shouldn't even really cross paths. I wonder how much truth to the article there was unless like said above the idea has been dropped.

I think he will probably be dealing with Charity and his mum next. The on going feud with Moses. Emma already asked what was going to happen with Moses so the seeds have been planted. Also Pete is supposedly going to prison. Do we really believe that? Although the way Ross is going to be is he even going to care or be involved with that. Them all living together could be interesting. If that is where is going to be

I hope Ross has a go at Pete when he finds out Pete made a move on Moira. Hope Ross shows Pete up for the hypocrite he is.

[alcapo11]

I don't really see what feud him and Nikhil would have now seeing as Debbie has gone. They shouldn't even really cross paths. I wonder how much truth to the article there was unless like said above the idea has been dropped.

I think he will probably be dealing with Charity and his mum next. The on going feud with Moses. Emma already asked what was going to happen with Moses so the seeds have been planted. Also Pete is supposedly going to prison. Do we really believe that? Although the way Ross is going to be is he even going to care or be involved with that. Them all living together could be interesting. If that is where is going to be

I hope Ross has a go at Pete when he finds out Pete made a move on Moira. Hope Ross shows Pete up for the hypocrite he is.

[Dalesfan]

When Charity ets out she may want revenge against Jai and the sharmas so she may team up with Ross to get the factory or something? That would lead to a feud with Nikhll.

Of course! lol that makes so much more sense now. Completely forgot about that.

[Dalesfan]

I hope Ross has a go at Pete when he finds out Pete made a move on Moira. Hope Ross shows Pete up for the hypocrite he is.

Yea I can imagine Ross quite liking that.

[alcapo11]

Of course! lol that makes so much more sense now. Completely forgot about that.

Charity never let's anything lie and she knows Ross gets away with everything so they could be the perfect partners in crime.

[alcapo11]

Of course! lol that makes so much more sense now. Completely forgot about that.

Charity never let's anything lie and she knows Ross gets away with everything so they could be the perfect partners in crime.

[lizann]

When Charity ets out she may want revenge against Jai and the sharmas so she may team up with Ross to get the factory or something? That would lead to a feud with Nikhll.

jai will gone soon on his paternity leave, i assume his exit is to rehab or prison or to canada with nikhil

ross would want to be careful he could be next for moira :p

[rossfan]

I hope Ross has a go at Pete when he finds out Pete made a move on Moira. Hope Ross shows Pete up for the hypocrite he is.

Definetly. I know Moira admits to Cain straight away about a kiss but if Pete has an affair with Moira, I would like Ross to find out and anonymously blackmail him.

[alcapo11]

Definetly. I know Moira admits to Cain straight away about a kiss but if Pete has an affair with Moira, I would like Ross to find out and anonymously blackmail him.
I sawva spoier in a magazine for 2 weeks time and it says "Moiras Betrayal" so Im thinking its more than just a kiss. I hope cain dishes out the same punishment that Pete did to Ross.

[alcapo11]

Definetly. I know Moira admits to Cain straight away about a kiss but if Pete has an affair with Moira, I would like Ross to find out and anonymously blackmail him.
I saw a spoier in a magazine for 2 weeks time and it says "Moiras Betrayal" so Im thinking its more than just a kiss. I hope cain dishes out the same punishment that Pete did to Ross.

[kennedyfan86]

I saw a spoier in a magazine for 2 weeks time and it says "Moiras Betrayal" so Im thinking its more than just a kiss. I hope cain dishes out the same punishment that Pete did to Ross.

It'd be ridiculous for Moira to do that, that's the type of thing you expect from Ross, not Pete, to get someone even like his Auntie into bed, it even looked like Ross fancied Moira for a while, even though she was really more a mother figure to him, he even made out she'd given him the come on when her one night stand with James came out. Still, she's done a lot for Pete too, so I guess an attraction is plausible, you just expect it more of Ross

[kennedyfan86]

I saw a spoier in a magazine for 2 weeks time and it says "Moiras Betrayal" so Im thinking its more than just a kiss. I hope cain dishes out the same punishment that Pete did to Ross.

It'd be ridiculous for Moira to do that, that's the type of thing you expect from Ross, not Pete, to get someone even like his Auntie into bed, it even looked like Ross fancied Moira for a while, even though she was really more a mother figure to him, he even made out she'd given him the come on when her one night stand with James came out. Still, she's done a lot for Pete too, so I guess an attraction is plausible, you just expect it more of Ross

[alcapo11]

It'd be ridiculous for Moira to do that, that's the type of thing you expect from Ross, not Pete, to get someone even like his Auntie into bed, it even looked like Ross fancied Moira for a while, even though she was really more a mother figure to him, he even made out she'd given him the come on when her one night stand with James came out. Still, she's done a lot for Pete too, so I guess an attraction is plausible, you just expect it more of Ross

Of course it may just be referring to when Moira let's Ross have Moses back but I think that happens this week. Also I don't even think Ross would go there as it would mean another trip to the quarry with Cain. Ross would still survive of course, he is immune to death.

[alcapo11]

It'd be ridiculous for Moira to do that, that's the type of thing you expect from Ross, not Pete, to get someone even like his Auntie into bed, it even looked like Ross fancied Moira for a while, even though she was really more a mother figure to him, he even made out she'd given him the come on when her one night stand with James came out. Still, she's done a lot for Pete too, so I guess an attraction is plausible, you just expect it more of Ross

Of course it may just be referring to when Moira let's Ross have Moses back but I think that happens this week. Also I don't even think Ross would go there as it would mean another trip to the quarry with Cain. Ross would still survive of course, he is immune to death.

[Dalesfan]

I hope Ross has a go at Pete when he finds out Pete made a move on Moira. Hope Ross shows Pete up for the hypocrite he is.

"Cain warns Pete to stay away from his wife and Ross guffaws at the idea of his brother making a move on his aunt."

At the moment sounds like Ross will just take the piss so unless anything else happens with Pete and Moira this may well be all it is.

[alcapo11]

"Cain warns Pete to stay away from his wife and Ross guffaws at the idea of his brother making a move on his aunt."

At the moment sounds like Ross will just take the piss so unless anything else happens with Pete and Moira this may well be all it is.

At least it sounds like funny, sarcastic Ross is back I cant wait to see him take the piss out of Pete.

[alcapo11]

"Cain warns Pete to stay away from his wife and Ross guffaws at the idea of his brother making a move on his aunt."

At the moment sounds like Ross will just take the piss so unless anything else happens with Pete and Moira this may well be all it is.

At least it sounds like funny, sarcastic Ross is back I cant wait to see him take the piss out of Pete.

[Telly Watcher]

Ross is such a total Emmerdale misftit, sociopath and completely unlikeable guy. There are no storylines or spoilers available to the general public right now about Ross's future, so there is an apparent blank canvas for Ross. But just why would Ross stay in Emmerdale? Ross Barton really belongs somewhere like Magaluf or Ibiza.

Robert and Ross both seem to have personality disorders. As far as I can tell for now, Robert may be a creative (charming) pyschopath. Very believable, very charming. cunning, smart, a real go-getter in present UK. He really comes across as being basically impulsive and ready to make the most of any opportunity that comes his way. For example, he sees Humpty Paddy stuck and struggling in the grain pit so Robert decides to turn on the feeder! But how cool and calm about the situation he was though, and just how thoughtful he was for us all as he could have saved everyone worldwide from the latest Paddy/Tess thing...haha! But Robert sees business opportunities and rich local girls too!

On the other hand, Ross is just a completely unlikeable misfit sociopath in Emmerdale and just pre-plans things, but he's so rubbish at being anything other than a complete numpty that everything he does ends in failure, either for himself or everyone else in Emmerdale, or both! Ross Barton is maybe the least "farmy guy" and biggest towny joke character Emmerdale has maybe ever had!

All that can expected for now is that Ross goes grey for a while in Emmerdale and then gets used by Charity when she gets out of jail ("birds of a feather..."). But I see no romantic stuff between Ross and Charity at all, as Charity will want to have Cain.

Ross Barton really seems to have no believable future in Emmerdale for now. For Ross to stay in Emmerdale will totally prove to everyone that he is a total idiot, when he really should be a young guy making the most of his life and sunning it up in Spain and going out with all of the holiday girls there. Ross, you are so.... rubbish and a complete waste of space and oxygen!

[JessicaMad]

Ross is such a total Emmerdale misftit, sociopath and completely unlikeable guy. There are no storylines or spoilers available to the general public right now about Ross's future, so there is an apparent blank canvas for Ross. But just why would Ross stay in Emmerdale? Ross Barton really belongs somewhere like Magaluf or Ibiza.

Robert and Ross both seem to have personality disorders. As far as I can tell for now, Robert may be a creative (charming) pyschopath. Very believable, very charming. cunning, smart, a real go-getter in present UK. He really comes across as being basically impulsive and ready to make the most of any opportunity that comes his way. For example, he sees Humpty Paddy stuck and struggling in the grain pit so Robert decides to turn on the feeder! But how cool and calm about the situation he was though, and just how thoughtful he was for us all as he could have saved everyone worldwide from the latest Paddy/Tess thing...haha! But Robert sees business opportunities and rich local girls too!

On the other hand, Ross is just a completely unlikeable misfit sociopath in Emmerdale and just pre-plans things, but he's so rubbish at being anything other than a complete numpty that everything he does ends in failure, either for himself or everyone else in Emmerdale, or both! Ross Barton is maybe the least "farmy guy" and biggest towny joke character Emmerdale has maybe ever had!

All that can expected for now is that Ross goes grey for a while in Emmerdale and then gets used by Charity when she gets out of jail ("birds of a feather..."). But I see no romantic stuff between Ross and Charity at all, as Charity will want to have Cain.

Ross Barton really seems to have no believable future in Emmerdale for now. For Ross to stay in Emmerdale will totally prove to everyone that he is a total idiot, when he really should be a young guy making the most of his life and sunning it up in Spain and going out with all of the holiday girls there. Ross, you are so.... rubbish and a complete waste of space and oxygen!

:wall:

[rossfan]

Ross is such a total Emmerdale misftit, sociopath and completely unlikeable guy. There are no storylines or spoilers available to the general public right now about Ross's future, so there is an apparent blank canvas for Ross. But just why would Ross stay in Emmerdale? Ross Barton really belongs somewhere like Magaluf or Ibiza.

Robert and Ross both seem to have personality disorders. As far as I can tell for now, Robert may be a creative (charming) pyschopath. Very believable, very charming. cunning, smart, a real go-getter in present UK. He really comes across as being basically impulsive and ready to make the most of any opportunity that comes his way. For example, he sees Humpty Paddy stuck and struggling in the grain pit so Robert decides to turn on the feeder! But how cool and calm about the situation he was though, and just how thoughtful he was for us all as he could have saved everyone worldwide from the latest Paddy/Tess thing...haha! But Robert sees business opportunities and rich local girls too!

On the other hand, Ross is just a completely unlikeable misfit sociopath in Emmerdale and just pre-plans things, but he's so rubbish at being anything other than a complete numpty that everything he does ends in failure, either for himself or everyone else in Emmerdale, or both! Ross Barton is maybe the least "farmy guy" and biggest towny joke character Emmerdale has maybe ever had!

All that can expected for now is that Ross goes grey for a while in Emmerdale and then gets used by Charity when she gets out of jail ("birds of a feather..."). But I see no romantic stuff between Ross and Charity at all, as Charity will want to have Cain.

Ross Barton really seems to have no believable future in Emmerdale for now. For Ross to stay in Emmerdale will totally prove to everyone that he is a total idiot, when he really should be a young guy making the most of his life and sunning it up in Spain and going out with all of the holiday girls there. Ross, you are so.... rubbish and a complete waste of space and oxygen!

Seriously you're just a copy and paste person now aren't you. We get it you hate Ross Barton and Michael Parr. You blamed MICHAEL (the actor) for the attacks in France because his character promotes violence. We recently caught the reason in another thread. You like Robert Sugden. We get it. I have to ask though why haven't you blamed Ryan Hawley for the attacks in France? He was waving a gun around on new years eve when playing Robert. Or is he immune because you like him? Double standards from you.

[rossfan]

Ross is such a total Emmerdale misftit, sociopath and completely unlikeable guy. There are no storylines or spoilers available to the general public right now about Ross's future, so there is an apparent blank canvas for Ross. But just why would Ross stay in Emmerdale? Ross Barton really belongs somewhere like Magaluf or Ibiza.

Robert and Ross both seem to have personality disorders. As far as I can tell for now, Robert may be a creative (charming) pyschopath. Very believable, very charming. cunning, smart, a real go-getter in present UK. He really comes across as being basically impulsive and ready to make the most of any opportunity that comes his way. For example, he sees Humpty Paddy stuck and struggling in the grain pit so Robert decides to turn on the feeder! But how cool and calm about the situation he was though, and just how thoughtful he was for us all as he could have saved everyone worldwide from the latest Paddy/Tess thing...haha! But Robert sees business opportunities and rich local girls too!

On the other hand, Ross is just a completely unlikeable misfit sociopath in Emmerdale and just pre-plans things, but he's so rubbish at being anything other than a complete numpty that everything he does ends in failure, either for himself or everyone else in Emmerdale, or both! Ross Barton is maybe the least "farmy guy" and biggest towny joke character Emmerdale has maybe ever had!

All that can expected for now is that Ross goes grey for a while in Emmerdale and then gets used by Charity when she gets out of jail ("birds of a feather..."). But I see no romantic stuff between Ross and Charity at all, as Charity will want to have Cain.

Ross Barton really seems to have no believable future in Emmerdale for now. For Ross to stay in Emmerdale will totally prove to everyone that he is a total idiot, when he really should be a young guy making the most of his life and sunning it up in Spain and going out with all of the holiday girls there. Ross, you are so.... rubbish and a complete waste of space and oxygen!

Seriously you're just a copy and paste person now aren't you. We get it you hate Ross Barton and Michael Parr. You blamed MICHAEL (the actor) for the attacks in France because his character promotes violence. We recently caught the reason in another thread. You like Robert Sugden. We get it. I have to ask though why haven't you blamed Ryan Hawley for the attacks in France? He was waving a gun around on new years eve when playing Robert. Or is he immune because you like him? Double standards from you.

[Telly Watcher]

Seriously you're just a copy and paste person now aren't you. We get it you hate Ross Barton and Michael Parr. You blamed MICHAEL (the actor) for the attacks in France because his character promotes violence. We recently caught the reason in another thread. You like Robert Sugden. We get it. I have to ask though why haven't you blamed Ryan Hawley for the attacks in France? He was waving a gun around on new years eve when playing Robert. Or is he immune because you like him? Double standards from you.

Just what are you talking about? I wrote the whole of my post you quoted myself from my own experience and knowledge!

I dislike Ross Barton now because of the mindless things he's done over the past 4 months or so.

Clearly, you are I are seeing different shows or you simply have your head in the sand whenever Ross Barton does something really bad, and that seems to be like nearly always for now! Wake up! Ross Barton is no good to anyone in Emmerdale or himself. He really needs help but this is beyond me, sorry.

[binky321]

Ross is such a total Emmerdale misftit, sociopath and completely unlikeable guy. There are no storylines or spoilers available to the general public right now about Ross's future, so there is an apparent blank canvas for Ross. But just why would Ross stay in Emmerdale? Ross Barton really belongs somewhere like Magaluf or Ibiza.

Robert and Ross both seem to have personality disorders. As far as I can tell for now, Robert may be a creative (charming) pyschopath. Very believable, very charming. cunning, smart, a real go-getter in present UK. He really comes across as being basically impulsive and ready to make the most of any opportunity that comes his way. For example, he sees Humpty Paddy stuck and struggling in the grain pit so Robert decides to turn on the feeder! But how cool and calm about the situation he was though, and just how thoughtful he was for us all as he could have saved everyone worldwide from the latest Paddy/Tess thing...haha! But Robert sees business opportunities and rich local girls too!

On the other hand, Ross is just a completely unlikeable misfit sociopath in Emmerdale and just pre-plans things, but he's so rubbish at being anything other than a complete numpty that everything he does ends in failure, either for himself or everyone else in Emmerdale, or both! Ross Barton is maybe the least "farmy guy" and biggest towny joke character Emmerdale has maybe ever had!

All that can expected for now is that Ross goes grey for a while in Emmerdale and then gets used by Charity when she gets out of jail ("birds of a feather..."). But I see no romantic stuff between Ross and Charity at all, as Charity will want to have Cain.

Ross Barton really seems to have no believable future in Emmerdale for now. For Ross to stay in Emmerdale will totally prove to everyone that he is a total idiot, when he really should be a young guy making the most of his life and sunning it up in Spain and going out with all of the holiday girls there. Ross, you are so.... rubbish and a complete waste of space and oxygen!

Great post :D

I agree that Ross is a misfit in the sense he doesn't fit into the village community very well his whole focus since he arrived is getting his hands on money through crime he clearly doesn't want to work for his money & also has been his love interests Donna & Debbie, the only other person he has a bond with is Finn & April but that's manly to keep his link with Donna. He doesn't even really have a friend.

But one thing that they have with Ross is that he now has a son in the village which was probably the point of having Moses his, giving him something to tie him there, although at the moment he hasn't shown a whole lot of interest in him it's Emma that seems to be pushing him towards reclaiming his son and he seems to want to palm him off onto others, but they could build on that if if wanted too.

I'm very frustrated with the amount of things Ross has done it's too much, and just losing his girlfriend doesn't seem enough.

It's going to take a lot for Emmerdale to get me to feel any empathy with him again as I did when he lost Donna.

[deeCee]

The WRITERS have messed up badly with Ross. Getting him to torture his brother at the viaduct, and him shooting Robert has damaged the character.

However, it's not the character's fault, nor is it Michael Parr's. The character behaves as written, and the actor acts as required.

[deeCee]

..

[alcapo11]

Seriously you're just a copy and paste person now aren't you. We get it you hate Ross Barton and Michael Parr. You blamed MICHAEL (the actor) for the attacks in France because his character promotes violence. We recently caught the reason in another thread. You like Robert Sugden. We get it. I have to ask though why haven't you blamed Ryan Hawley for the attacks in France? He was waving a gun around on new years eve when playing Robert. Or is he immune because you like him? Double standards from you.

I would just stop biting if I was you, Telly Watcher just talks rubbish. You cant take a person who blames an actor for the one of the worlds biggest tragedies.

[alcapo11]

The WRITERS have messed up badly with Ross. Getting him to torture his brother at the viaduct, and him shooting Robert has damaged the character.

However, it's not the character's fault, nor is it Michael Parr's. The character behaves as written, and the actor acts as required.

I dont think they have messed him up at all, he is a VILLAIN that is his role. The past few months is just the worst of him, we see this with every villainous character such as Robert and Cain.

[alcapo11]

The WRITERS have messed up badly with Ross. Getting him to torture his brother at the viaduct, and him shooting Robert has damaged the character.

However, it's not the character's fault, nor is it Michael Parr's. The character behaves as written, and the actor acts as required.

I dont think they have messed him up at all, he is a VILLAIN that is his role. The past few months is just the worst of him, we see this with every villainous character such as Robert and Cain.

[Perdita]

I dont think they have messed him up at all, he is a VILLAIN that is his role. The past few months is just the worst of him, we see this with every villainous character such as Robert and Cain.

He was introduced as car jacker scaring the life out of Laurel and I have not seen any redeeming features since .. even a bit of bonding with Moses won´t change him in any way .. he will not be a good father but palm the boy off to whoever he can.
Michael is a good actor but other than than I could not care less about the character

[alcapo11]

He was introduced as car jacker scaring the life out of Laurel and I have not seen any redeeming features since .. even a bit of bonding with Moses won´t change him in any way .. he will not be a good father but palm the boy off to whoever he can.
Michael is a good actor but other than than I could not care less about the character

Fair enough, I disagree but we all like different things I suppose.

[alcapo11]

He was introduced as car jacker scaring the life out of Laurel and I have not seen any redeeming features since .. even a bit of bonding with Moses won´t change him in any way .. he will not be a good father but palm the boy off to whoever he can.
Michael is a good actor but other than than I could not care less about the character

Fair enough, I disagree but we all like different things I suppose.

[lizann]

what other soap character provokes such passionate arguments only ross

[alcapo11]

what other soap character provokes such passionate arguments only ross

Exactly, whether you love or hate him he is an entertaining character.

[alcapo11]

what other soap character provokes such passionate arguments only ross

Exactly, whether you love or hate him he is an entertaining character.

[rossfan]

Exactly, whether you love or hate him he is an entertaining character.

Definitely. I have no issues with people having not liking Ross. But Telly Watcher seems to have it out for Michael Parr, the actor as well. I mean accusing him for being responsible for the attacks in Paris because of the fictional character he plays is an example of extreme hate and fanatic in the worst possible way. Even then he/she doesn't follow on that rule consistently because he/she likes Robert Sugden who is just as bad.

[rossfan]

Exactly, whether you love or hate him he is an entertaining character.

Definitely. I have no issues with people having not liking Ross. But Telly Watcher seems to have it out for Michael Parr, the actor as well. I mean accusing him for being responsible for the attacks in Paris because of the fictional character he plays is an example of extreme hate and fanatic in the worst possible way. Even then he/she doesn't follow on that rule consistently because he/she likes Robert Sugden who is just as bad.

[Perdita]

Exactly, whether you love or hate him he is an entertaining character.

But then we all get entertained by different things .. which is a good thing :D

[rossfan]

Really happy with how tonight's episode went. Ross claimed his son!

Now let's see them bond further!

[rossfan]

Really happy with how tonight's episode went. Ross claimed his son!

Now let's see them bond further!

[kennedyfan86]

Really happy with how tonight's episode went. Ross claimed his son!

Now let's see them bond further!

He'll palm him off on Emma. He looked stunned when Moira started packing his bag up

[kennedyfan86]

Really happy with how tonight's episode went. Ross claimed his son!

Now let's see them bond further!

He'll palm him off on Emma. He looked stunned when Moira started packing his bag up

[rossfan]

He'll palm him off on Emma. He looked stunned when Moira started packing his bag up

Well it will be a long road ahead for Ross, but this storyline could be one of Ross' best. This is character development, which is really important when it comes to story telling and writing.

As Emma said tonight, Ross isn't the type of character to be tied down but Ross can show a caring and protective side to his son and yet still keep his villainous characteristics.

[rossfan]

He'll palm him off on Emma. He looked stunned when Moira started packing his bag up

Well it will be a long road ahead for Ross, but this storyline could be one of Ross' best. This is character development, which is really important when it comes to story telling and writing.

As Emma said tonight, Ross isn't the type of character to be tied down but Ross can show a caring and protective side to his son and yet still keep his villainous characteristics.

[kennedyfan86]

Well it will be a long road ahead for Ross, but this storyline could be one of Ross' best. This is character development, which is really important when it comes to story telling and writing.

As Emma said tonight, Ross isn't the type of character to be tied down but Ross can show a caring and protective side to his son and yet still keep his villainous characteristics.

True. There are elements of Ross that want to be there 4 Moses, but there's also a side of him that can't give a toss either way

[kennedyfan86]

Well it will be a long road ahead for Ross, but this storyline could be one of Ross' best. This is character development, which is really important when it comes to story telling and writing.

As Emma said tonight, Ross isn't the type of character to be tied down but Ross can show a caring and protective side to his son and yet still keep his villainous characteristics.

True. There are elements of Ross that want to be there for Moses, but there's also a side of him that couldn't give a toss either way

[rossfan]

True. There are elements of Ross that want to be there for Moses, but there's also a side of him that couldn't give a toss either way

Yeah that's why this will be good viewing because providing the writers get it right. Ross will eradicate the latter that you mentioned. We have already seen the start of this progression when Moses was taken to hospital for nearly drowning.

[rossfan]

True. There are elements of Ross that want to be there for Moses, but there's also a side of him that couldn't give a toss either way

Yeah that's why this will be good viewing because providing the writers get it right. Ross will eradicate the latter that you mentioned. We have already seen the start of this progression when Moses was taken to hospital for nearly drowning.

[kennedyfan86]

Yeah that's why this will be good viewing because providing the writers get it right. Ross will eradicate the latter that you mentioned. We have already seen the start of this progression when Moses was taken to hospital for nearly drowning.

It was initially an act to get Debbie onside but his genuine paternal instinct did kick in and he wouldn't want Moses to end up losing a parent like he did and having a turbulent relationship with the remaining parent.
They could've made Emma a likeable character too, but I think it's a bit late now, she's just seen as a fruit loop by the viewers, and the characters alike lol

[kennedyfan86]

Yeah that's why this will be good viewing because providing the writers get it right. Ross will eradicate the latter that you mentioned. We have already seen the start of this progression when Moses was taken to hospital for nearly drowning.

It was initially an act to get Debbie onside but his genuine paternal instinct did kick in and he wouldn't want Moses to end up losing a parent like he did and having a turbulent relationship with the remaining parent.
They could've made Emma a likeable character too, but I think it's a bit late now, she's just seen as a fruit loop by the viewers, and the characters alike lol

[rossfan]

Tomorrow apparently Ross does try to palm Moses off onto Emma but there is a question mark in the spoilers as to whether Emma agrees to look after him. I hope she doesn't.

[Dalesfan]

Congratulations to Michael Parr who has been shortlisted for National Television Awards. Up against Danny Dyer, Alison King and Rakhee Thakrar. It's a tough group and all worthy winners. Great for him to be in amongst great talent :)

[JessicaMad]

Congratulations to Michael Parr who has been shortlisted for National Television Awards. Up against Danny Dyer, Alison King and Rakhee Thakrar. It's a tough group and all worthy winners. Great for him to be in amongst great talent :)

Mike is doing amazing getting all of these awards. Well deserved.

[alcapo11]

Congratulations to Michael Parr who has been shortlisted for National Television Awards. Up against Danny Dyer, Alison King and Rakhee Thakrar. It's a tough group and all worthy winners. Great for him to be in amongst great talent :)

Im now awaiting Telly Watcher to tell us that the NTA's are rigged aswell, like he/she told me the inside soap and Digital spy awards are. Michael Parr is hugely popular.

[alcapo11]

Congratulations to Michael Parr who has been shortlisted for National Television Awards. Up against Danny Dyer, Alison King and Rakhee Thakrar. It's a tough group and all worthy winners. Great for him to be in amongst great talent :)

Im now awaiting Telly Watcher to tell us that the NTA's are rigged aswell, like he/she told me the inside soap and Digital spy awards are. Michael Parr is hugely popular.

[alcapo11]

Michael may not win as he is up against actors who have been involved in some heartbreaking storylines, such a Shabnam losing her baby but it is still brilliant that he got enough votes to be short-listed.

[tammyy2j]

I think Ross does care for Moses (or Mozzie as he calls him) but is afraid of losing or hurting him

Now he has him full time hopefully we see a more caring side to Ross if Emma allows him to

[alcapo11]

I think Ross does care for Moses (or Mozzie as he calls him) but is afraid of losing or hurting him

Now he has him full time hopefully we see a more caring side to Ross if Emma allows him to

I think it was shown when Moses nearly drowned how much Ross care about Moses, he is just scared that being a dad will stop him being free and causing mayhem.

[alcapo11]

I think Ross does care for Moses (or Mozzie as he calls him) but is afraid of losing or hurting him

Now he has him full time hopefully we see a more caring side to Ross if Emma allows him to

I think it was shown when Moses nearly drowned how much Ross care about Moses, he is just scared that being a dad will stop him being free and causing mayhem.

[Dalesfan]

Michael may not win as he is up against actors who have been involved in some heartbreaking storylines, such a Shabnam losing her baby but it is still brilliant that he got enough votes to be short-listed.

Yea that's true. But the new year stuff just recently has been good for Mike. Suppose it depends also on what airs when the NTAs do. The Enders vote could be split as they have two in there and Alison King has some big stuff coming up over the next few weeks. Think she has a good chance. Is it all public votes or does a panel decide aswell?

[alcapo11]

Yea that's true. But the new year stuff just recently has been good for Mike. Suppose it depends also on what airs when the NTAs do. The Enders vote could be split as they have two in there and Alison King has some big stuff coming up over the next few weeks. Think she has a good chance. Is it all public votes or does a panel decide aswell?

I think its just votes, if he does win this will be his 8th award he has won since joining Emmerdale. Quite good going.

[alcapo11]

Yea that's true. But the new year stuff just recently has been good for Mike. Suppose it depends also on what airs when the NTAs do. The Enders vote could be split as they have two in there and Alison King has some big stuff coming up over the next few weeks. Think she has a good chance. Is it all public votes or does a panel decide aswell?

I think its just votes, if he does win this will be his 8th award he has won since joining Emmerdale. Quite good going.

[Dalesfan]

I think its just votes, if he does win this will be his 8th award he has won since joining Emmerdale. Quite good going.

Yes that's amazing but even being shortlisted proves how popular he is. Up there with the best.

[JessicaMad]

I was pretty shocked to see Ross still had access to Debbie's house. I heard a rumor that someone else is moving in their soon so it won't be permanent. With Pete possibly going to prison (is Anthiny Quinlan even leaving?) I think it's inevitable Ross will move back into Dale View at some point.

[alcapo11]

I was pretty shocked to see Ross still had access to Debbie's house. I heard a rumor that someone else is moving in their soon so it won't be permanent. With Pete possibly going to prison (is Anthiny Quinlan even leaving?) I think it's inevitable Ross will move back into Dale View at some point,

Debbie selling or is Charity moving in when she gets out?

[alcapo11]

I was pretty shocked to see Ross still had access to Debbie's house. I heard a rumor that someone else is moving in their soon so it won't be permanent. With Pete possibly going to prison (is Anthiny Quinlan even leaving?) I think it's inevitable Ross will move back into Dale View at some point,

Debbie selling or is Charity moving in when she gets out?

[alcapo11]

Yes that's amazing but even being shortlisted proves how popular he is. Up there with the best.

Yep, I hope Emmerdale dont push Ross back into the background just because he has a a big year, I hope the new producer doesn't waste him

[JessicaMad]

Debbie selling or is Charity moving in when she gets out?
Well I heard Ashley and Laurel might buy it.

[tammyy2j]

Well I heard Ashley and Laurel might buy it.

Are they living with Harriet and Sandy now?

[Dalesfan]

Will Debbie sell it though? She will be back at some point and will need somewhere to live. Maybe she will rent it out

[alcapo11]

Will Debbie sell it though? She will be back at some point and will need somewhere to live. Maybe she will rent it out

She may not plan on coming back, something will probably force her to come back and then Ross will get her to stay.

[alcapo11]

Will Debbie sell it though? She will be back at some point and will need somewhere to live. Maybe she will rent it out

She may not plan on coming back, something will probably force her to come back and then Ross will get her to stay.

[lizann]

Congratulations to Michael Parr who has been shortlisted for National Television Awards. Up against Danny Dyer, Alison King and Rakhee Thakrar. It's a tough group and all worthy winners. Great for him to be in amongst great talent :)

danny is least deserving it between mike and rakhee for me

[alcapo11]

danny is least deserving it between mike and rakhee for me

A woman on twitter claimed that she has already voted 50 times for Danny so I think he will take some beating.

[alcapo11]

danny is least deserving it between mike and rakhee for me

A woman on twitter claimed that she has already voted 50 times for Danny so I think he will take some beating.

[rossfan]

I'm so very proud of Michael! He deserves being shortlisted and I hope he wins!

He's done exceptionally well all year and put everything into his peformance!

[kennedyfan86]

I'm so very proud of Michael! He deserves being shortlisted and I hope he wins!

He's done exceptionally well all year and put everything into his peformance!

He has. I love Ross and Aaron, Michael and Danny both seem like fantastic guys, Adam Thomas too who seems a shadow in their midst

[kennedyfan86]

I'm so very proud of Michael! He deserves being shortlisted and I hope he wins!

He's done exceptionally well all year and put everything into his peformance!

He has. I love Ross and Aaron, Michael and Danny both seem like fantastic guys, Adam Thomas too who seems a shadow in their midst

[rossfan]

Well the spoilers were a bit misleading for tonight. Episode was much better!

Emma offered to help with Moses but Ross declined the offer!

[rossfan]

Well the spoilers were a bit misleading for tonight. Episode was much better!

Emma offered to help with Moses but Ross declined the offer!

[kennedyfan86]

Well the spoilers were a bit misleading for tonight. Episode was much better!

Emma offered to help with Moses but Ross declined the offer!

He was "out of his depth" tonight, I think he relents and is crawling to Emma by Friday lol

[kennedyfan86]

Well the spoilers were a bit misleading for tonight. Episode was much better!

Emma offered to help with Moses but Ross declined the offer!

He was "out of his depth" tonight, I think he relents and is crawling to Emma by Friday lol

[Telly Watcher]

I posted previously in another thread about how some of the fun soap awards (IS, etc) seem to have an equally fun voting system. Well the current NTA poll seems to be following this trend too. Voters can vote up to six times for one phone number and have one online vote for each email address. No registration is needed and there seem to be inadequate validity checks for votes online. There was a recent post in this thread about this issue about a twitter claim about multiple votes for Danny Dyer (EastEnders):


A woman on twitter claimed that she has already voted 50 times for Danny so I think he will take some beating.

I haven't seen this original tweet on Twitter, so I'll just have to assume for now that this statement is true. If so, then this is more evidence for my point that some of the fun awards have fun voting systems which are open to mis-use and the results from these aren't worth much really, so whoever wins the award has a dubious and hollow victory.

I reckon that the public gets what the public wants in these polls. These polls are really meant to be for a laugh, aren't they? It really seems to me that some people take these polls and awards to mean far more than they are worth when their fave wins, or they are really sore when their fave doesn't. There is clear evidence that the voting system for at least some soap award polls are open to voter mis-use. This is not in any way the fault of whichever actor wins, however, of course, so to these "winners" I wish them well for their award but, for me anyway, this is a hollow and shallow victory as a result of seemingly badly mismanaged award voting systems. Maybe the person who got voted "Best Actor" sometime in the past really got voted as the "Actor with the largest number of obsessed, badly-focussed and craziest fans..?"

I really do think that some posters here on soapboards really need to learn to make or take a joke when given the chance. Believe me, in my experience, it is really much harder to make people happy than to make them otherwise. Some posters here on soapboards really need to lighten up and make us all smile, at least since in a while.

I post about every character on Emmerdale and I really try to do it on an impartial basis. I give every character a fair chance and try to reflect what each one does on TV. I do realise that the actors have maybe little or no say about what they have to do to get paid and keep their jobs. But when someone is hired as "the villain" and is paid well to do the job, then why should anyone be surprised when someone like me reacts and says "I don't like that character"? I really don't feel badly about this as I am clearly meant to feel this way about this character. Mike Parr does what he paid to do. But I still dislike lowlife Ross Barton, however, just as I am completely meant to do, it seems... So does Ross Barton/Mike Parr get my vote? The answer to this is a really big no. Ross Barton is just a completely horrible guy for me, as he is just a total misfit in Emmerdale and will never be a success in life whilst he stays there, as far as I can see anyway. Ross Barton right now, to me anyway, is a complete joke. He will probably end up living with his Mum, begging for his garage job from Cain, probably being a dog for dodgy stuff for Charity when she gets out of jail, and have awful storylines beyond this. Ross Barton really needs to leave Emmerdale and use the most of his temporary good looks and "youth" whilst he can, I reckon. For now, Ross Barton is, for me anyway, a terribly tragic guy, just in the wrong place at the wrong time. IMHO, there is really no clear place for Ross Barton to fit into Emmerdale in the near future or even beyond?

[deeCee]

You have to give an active email to vote, so I doubt anyone has voted 50 times.

[Telly Watcher]

You have to give an active email to vote, so I doubt anyone has voted 50 times.

Sorry, but you're totally wrong. I just voted online with the fictional email address of [email protected] (which I checked wasn't in use beforehand by sending it from my real email address and I quickly got a "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" from my email provider).

NTA and similar "Award Authorities" really to be investigated by an independent authority. Anyone who wins these NTA awards should refuse the award, I reckon.

[deeCee]

Sorry, but you're totally wrong. I just voted online with the fictional email address of [email protected] (which I checked wasn't in use beforehand by sending it from my real email address and I quickly got a "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" from my email provider).

NTA and similar "Award Authorities" really to be investigated by an independent authority. Anyone who wins these NTA awards should refuse the award, I reckon.

The Terms and Conditions state that where fraud is suspected, votes will not be counted. Therefore your vote won't be counted once a false email address is acknowledged.

Multiple votes from the same telephone or email address would not be counted. That includes anyone voting 50 times.

From the website.


Once you have made your selections (you must vote in at least one category) you must provide your name and a valid email address for your vote(s) to count and you must successfully pass through a CAPTCHA security device which will be in place to monitor multiple voting and ensure the integrity of the voting process and the Awards.

[Perdita]

Sorry, but you're totally wrong. I just voted online with the fictional email address of [email protected] (which I checked wasn't in use beforehand by sending it from my real email address and I quickly got a "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" from my email provider).

NTA and similar "Award Authorities" really to be investigated by an independent authority. Anyone who wins these NTA awards should refuse the award, I reckon.

Sorry but are you not saying your vote under the fictional email did NOT could as it got returned as undelivered??? I have voted in NTA awards for years, using my proper email as I don´t see the need to vote several times and I don´t want to do anything illegal

[Telly Watcher]

Look, votes should never be accepted from voter source computer for any public vote like this without voter prior registration and validation. Voters should be made to pre-register and their email address verified immediately for a one-off online vote later. Like I wrote earlier here, my joke fictional vote was accepted by the agent computer used by the NTA awards. This is simply not good enough and inspires no confidence in any results which the vote-collecting authority provide to a voter like me. Sorry, but that's the way it is from my own experience here earlier today.

The evidence so far to me is that the NTA voting is flawed and not transparent for rejection at source for votes. My fictional vote got through. This is simply not good enough. NTA (and others like it) must really do better in this day and age. Confidence and accuracy must be #1 in results it provides.

[deeCee]

Your fictional vote didn't get counted.

In order for a vote via email to be counted, it has to come from a VALID email account.

The website and voting rules are perfectly transparent and clear.

[deeCee]

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[Telly Watcher]

Sorry but are you not saying your vote under the fictional email did NOT could as it got returned as undelivered??? I have voted in NTA awards for years, using my proper email as I don´t see the need to vote several times and I don´t want to do anything illegal

No, my NTA vote got through using the fictional email address, and the vote will be counted presumably.

I know from beforehand that the fictional email address was not in use by anyone on Earth as my email provider returned the test email to my real email account as the test email was undeliverable. It was after this that I voted with NTA using the fictional email address.

[Perdita]

Shame that some need to revert to these tactics to try to affect the voting result.