Ross Barton (Michael Parr)

[suzewebb]

Who cares. Ross is alive and the world of emmerdale is as it should be...

[Serena Williams]

Michael Parr should get a raise he is the most important male character on the show.

[deeCee]

Who cares. Ross is alive and the world of emmerdale is as it should be...

:clap:

There is a god after all :cheer:

[tammyy2j]

Emmerdale troublemaker Ross Barton is still alive - and now he'll want revenge against his older brother Pete.

Michael Parr's bad boy character was seemingly killed off earlier this month as a fight between Ross and Pete went horribly wrong, but Tuesday's hour-long episode (August 25) ended with a surprise cliffhanger as it was revealed that he isn't dead after all.

Ross was seen opening his eyes in a hospital bed, but it won't be long before he's back on his feet to confront Pete (Anthony Quinlan) and settle their score. His main ambition will be to win back Pete's new wife Debbie Dingle, hoping to convince her that he is the better brother.

Speaking about Ross's future plans for the first time, Parr revealed: "Ross is in a lot of pain as Pete gave him a good beating! He's got to recover and he's got to get his head together, but ultimately he's got two things on his mind - revenge and where's the love of his life?

"Ross doesn't know what's really gone on as he can't remember too much. The doctor tells him that he's either been attacked by a large animal or someone has tried to kill him. Ross is furious!

"It's a bit of a cold thing to do, especially to your little brother. Ross is always painted as the bad one but he's never done this to anybody. I think getting Debbie will now be Ross's revenge against Pete."

The on-screen revelation will delight fans who even petitioned for Ross to be brought back to Emmerdale, but it was always the plan for the rogue to reappear after a few weeks.

Discussing the huge secrecy involved, Parr continued: "It's been difficult, fun and exciting. I've had to sneak in and out of the building at work to avoid being seen by fans outside, and I've even had to lie to family! People aren't idiots, so some people in my family have asked what I've been up to. I said that I've been working but I made a story up that I had a new job in a hotel!

"There's been a bit of speculation that Ross wasn't dead, so I've also been trying to throw people off. I was tweeting lies about going for auditions and stuff like that, so it's been good fun!

"The reactions I've had have been quite funny, actually - I've had so many different ones. It was funny when people were saying, 'You'll get something bigger' or 'This is going to be good for you, you'll get a film off the back of this'. I was thinking, 'No not really, because I'm still under contract!'"

Emmerdale's shock twists and turns for Ross and Pete were a long time in the planning, and producers are thought to be delighted that they managed to keep fans guessing throughout without any firm details leaking out.

Parr explained: "I first found out about the story a good few months ago. Anthony Quinlan had a meeting with Emmerdale's producer Kate Oates and he just looked shellshocked from what he found out.

"He wouldn't tell me what it was and it was starting to make me panic then! He just said that I needed to speak to Kate, so I automatically assumed the worst - that I'd had my two years at Emmerdale and that was it.

"When Kate told me what would be happening, I was just chuffed to bits. It's another great storyline and it seems to have paid off. Maybe when people see Ross again they'll go, 'Oh bloody hell, he's back, I hated that character!' But everybody seems to be genuinely annoyed that he's gone, so I hope people are excited to see him back."

[maidmarian]

dupl

[maidmarian]

How Ridiculous ! I am sick of the Scriptwriters treating the watching public and the Police as Morons. Ross Barton was reported missing, Cain was interviewed. One of the First things the Police would do in a misper case, is check the hospitals, they would have an up to date photo, so Ross would have been found very easily.
Am I the only one getting fed up with the way the Police & viewing public are expected to believe this Tosh !

I thought it was some sort of "leg pull " from the
start - similar to the who killed Lucy publicity in
EE.

So after the episode I looked at this forum.and
was suprised to see -a lot of people thought it
genuine. I did post then to express my view
but havent said much on subject since
.
I didnt want Ross to be dead-as I said at the time
but just waited to see how they would unfold
the story.

Some posters have been very diligent and
persistent in their analysis. I found some
of the acting "carry-on style" in parts. Which
is a shame to me-as Im a along time ED viewer
and was one of the reasons I didnt think
Ross would be dead!

So the answer to your basic question is
probably "Yes- they do have a low opinion
of their viewers" but dont let that discourage
you!
Im pleasex with this latest development -
but there may be a sting in the tail.!

[Telly Watcher]

Well we got the Ross storyline right between us on this soapboard. Hoorah!

I was watching the episode and wondered if we'd be strung out for longer. Would James and Pete go to wrong place in the woods and they'd make a big deal about that? No. Had Ross staggered away and collapsed somewhere on his own in the woods, never to be found without police dogs? No. Finally, the hospital scene... Whew, so glad that's sorted!

There are still questions to be answered for us from tomorrow's episode onwards. Has the hospital told the police about Ross and his injuries? The nurse implied that he'd been unconscious since admission (3 weeks before?), so how did he get to hospital?

The whole Summer Fate thing was always about increasing viewing figures and generating news headlines. Killing off a major soap character in the quiet summer months seems like really good business for selling TV ads, newspapers and magazines. Bringing back the 'dead' a few weeks later seems to work well too!

Radio Times published on Tuesday August 2015:
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Ross Barton is alive! Emmerdale star Michael Parr reveals all about his startling comeback

The actor says that Ross will have revenge on his mind once he gets out of hospital

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By David Brown
Tuesday 25 August 2015 at 7:58PM

Emmerdale pulled off a neat twist tonight when it was revealed that Ross Barton - last seen being killed by his bother Pete - isn't really dead at all!

Yes, nearly three weeks on from Pete dumping Ross's body in woodland, it turns out that the Dales bad boy actually survived the pair's shock showdown.

"It's been difficult keeping the secret," says actor Michael Parr. "I've even had to make up lies for my family. I've been telling them that I've been working in a hotel! There has been a bit of speculation that Ross wasn't dead, so I've tried to throw people off the scent by tweeting lies about having auditions. It's been good fun."

Scenes just broadcast on ITV saw Ross hooked up to monitors in hospital and briefly opening his eyes just as a nurse expressed hope that they'd soon be able to find out the identity of their mystery patient.

The revelation came just as Debbie - who remains in the dark about Ross's true whereabouts - was debating whether to call the police following new husband Pete's murder confession.

"I've known for a good few months that this was going to happen," continues Parr. "Anthony Quinlan, who plays Pete, found out first when he had a meeting with our producer Kate Oates. He came out looking shellshocked but wouldn't tell me what was going on. So automatically, I assumed they were getting rid of me. And then when she told me, I was chuffed to bits. It's another great storyline and keeping the twist hidden from viewers seems to have worked."

In order to ensure that no one outside of the show found out, Parr has taken to wearing disguises when entering and leaving the ITV studios in Leeds where Emmerdale is filmed.

"I have been sneaking in and out," he admits. "The other day, there were a few people waiting outside, so I had to borrow this massive cagoule from the costume department and walk all the way home in that, even though it was a hot sunny day."

And it seems that even friends were convinced that Ross had met a fatal end at the hands of Pete. "Yes, I've had people reassuring me that I'd get another job soon. Or that it'd be good for me because I'd get a film off the back of it! Hopefully, now that the truth is out there, people will be excited. I hope they won't be saying, 'oh bloody hell, I hated that character.'"

As for what the future holds for Ross, Parr is sure that vengeance will be at the forefront of his character's mind. "Ross is in a lot of pain. Pete gave him a good beating, so he's got to have time to recover. But he's got two things on his mind: revenge and the whereabouts of Debbie. Where is the love of his life?

"He doesn't know what went on. He can't remember too much. But the doctor tells Ross that he's either been attacked by a large animal or someone was trying to kill him. So Ross is furious. It's a pretty cold thing to do to anybody, but to your little brother!

"Ross has always been painted as the bad one, but he's never done this to anybody. But I think getting Debbie will be his revenge."
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Source: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-08-25/ross-barton-is-alive-emmerdale-star-michael-parr-reveals-all-about-his-startling-comeback

[Telly Watcher]

digitalspy.co.uk published on Tuesday August 25th 2015:

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Emmerdale spoilers: See Ross Barton confront Pete in new teaser video

By Daniel Kilkelly

Tuesday, Aug 25 2015, 20:00 BST

Here's a first look at the unmissable moment that Emmerdale's Ross Barton comes face-to-face with his brother Pete again.

Ross (Michael Parr) made a return to our screens in Tuesday's hour-long episode and a new video released by the soap now offers a tantalising glimpse into what's next.

Brand new footage shows Ross making a phone call to Debbie Dingle from hospital, staying silent on the line when he hears Pete's voice in the background.

Ross is also seen making a return to Butler's Farm, taunting Pete by saying: "Hello bruv. Bet you weren't expecting to see me again..."

Ross appeared to have been killed off earlier this month when he suffered a nasty blow to the head when a row with Pete over Debbie went horribly wrong.

A shaken Pete hid his body in some woodland in the hope of covering up his crime, but now that we know Ross is alive, time will only tell what the bad boy's revenge could be.
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See the new Emmerdale teaser in full at:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a665273/emmerdale-spoilers-see-ross-barton-confront-pete-in-new-teaser-video.html

[Dalesfan]

Well that was a brilliant surprise tonight. Have to say well done to Mike and everyone at emmerdale for keeping it under wraps. and the press aswell. When they can pull off a twist like that it's brilliant.

I know most on here had our suspicions and it looks like we were right. He has been filming still sneaking in and out of the studios lol. Ross is such a brilliant character and Mike is a great asset to the show. Don't think it was his time to go and I'm delighted he is still here and can't wait to see what happens next. So glad it hasn't been dragged out either

[Serena Williams]

digitalspy.co.uk published on Tuesday August 25th 2015:

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Emmerdale spoilers: See Ross Barton confront Pete in new teaser video

By Daniel Kilkelly

Tuesday, Aug 25 2015, 20:00 BST

Here's a first look at the unmissable moment that Emmerdale's Ross Barton comes face-to-face with his brother Pete again.

Ross (Michael Parr) made a return to our screens in Tuesday's hour-long episode and a new video released by the soap now offers a tantalising glimpse into what's next.

Brand new footage shows Ross making a phone call to Debbie Dingle from hospital, staying silent on the line when he hears Pete's voice in the background.

Ross is also seen making a return to Butler's Farm, taunting Pete by saying: \"Hello bruv. Bet you weren't expecting to see me again...\"

Ross appeared to have been killed off earlier this month when he suffered a nasty blow to the head when a row with Pete over Debbie went horribly wrong.

A shaken Pete hid his body in some woodland in the hope of covering up his crime, but now that we know Ross is alive, time will only tell what the bad boy's revenge could be.
>

See the new Emmerdale teaser in full at:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a665273/emmerdale-spoilers-see-ross-barton-confront-pete-in-new-teaser-video.html

Hello I just see the article I do not see the video.

[Serena Williams]

digitalspy.co.uk published on Tuesday August 25th 2015:

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Emmerdale spoilers: See Ross Barton confront Pete in new teaser video

By Daniel Kilkelly

Tuesday, Aug 25 2015, 20:00 BST

Here's a first look at the unmissable moment that Emmerdale's Ross Barton comes face-to-face with his brother Pete again.

Ross (Michael Parr) made a return to our screens in Tuesday's hour-long episode and a new video released by the soap now offers a tantalising glimpse into what's next.

Brand new footage shows Ross making a phone call to Debbie Dingle from hospital, staying silent on the line when he hears Pete's voice in the background.

Ross is also seen making a return to Butler's Farm, taunting Pete by saying: \"Hello bruv. Bet you weren't expecting to see me again...\"

Ross appeared to have been killed off earlier this month when he suffered a nasty blow to the head when a row with Pete over Debbie went horribly wrong.

A shaken Pete hid his body in some woodland in the hope of covering up his crime, but now that we know Ross is alive, time will only tell what the bad boy's revenge could be.
>

See the new Emmerdale teaser in full at:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a665273/emmerdale-spoilers-see-ross-barton-confront-pete-in-new-teaser-video.html

Hello I just see the article I do not see the video.

[Telly Watcher]

Hello I just see the article I do not see the video.

Hi, Serena.

I just checked the linked webpage with a computer and an ipad and the video appeared on both. The video appeared on the ipad (iOS 8.4.1) using Safari even when cookies were set to be blocked. The video also appeared and played on computer using Windows XP Pro with Firefox v40.0.2 and IE v8.0

I don't know where you are living but the video may not be available for your country if it is outside UK?

It could be a software problem which makes your machine incompatible to use for the video for the moment. If so, you might need to ask a local shop for help tomorrow as one or more programs might need updating. If you are confident about dealing with software issues yourself and are using a computer, then you could try checking your Adobe Flash Player program to start with.

The video is played on my UK computer using Adobe Flash Player v18.0.0.282. It's possible that your machine doesn't have an up-to-date Flash Player version.

If you visit the Adobe website at http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

it will tell you which version of Adobe Flash Player you have and what you should be using as the latest version. If you need to update then you can click on the 'Player Download Center' link above the Platform/Browser/Player info table.

I hope this helps, but the digitalspy.co.uk webpage with the video on is working for me right now in UK, so something is different for you which is making the video not appear. I think it's most likely to be your country or your software programs.

[Kim]

I have just played the video on iPhone, Safari, iOS 8.1.3.

Here is the link to the video's location on the ITV site, see if that one will play for you instead:

http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/extras/ross-return

[Perdita]

Anybody else with those kind of head injuries would be suffering from amnesia or other mental issues ... not Ross of course, finds his way home to confront his brother without memory loss or signs of a bit of a headache :D

[mariba]

We don't know yet what condition he's in..What puzzles me is-how did he get out of woods if he was unconcious??! Someone-doggie walker/hiker must have found him..I would hate to walk my dogs in Emmerdale where bodies are scattered everywhere..;)
Thank goodness all the speculation is over now and we can all relax! :)

[Telly Watcher]

soapsquawk.co.uk published on Tuesday August 25th 2015:

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Emmerdale’s Michael Parr on shock twist: “Ross is alive and wants revenge!”

Published Tuesday, 25th August 2015, 20:00pm By SoapSquawk


Emmerdale bosses aired a shocking twist in tonight’s episode as it was revealed Ross Barton is alive!

Fans had feared the villager had been killed by his brother Pete Barton, but what Pete didn’t realise when he dumped Ross’ body in the woods was that it wasn’t dead!

And after leaving him alone a walker discovered Ross and took him to a local hospital where he’s been recovering ever since.

As he had no phone or wallet on him when he was dumped, the hospital don’t know Ross’ identity which is why the Barton family are clueless to his fate.

Here Michael Parr, who plays Ross, admits it’s been tough keeping the secret but hopes fans loved the twist.

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Ross awake in hospital

>How has it been keeping the twist a secret?

It’s been difficult, but ultimately it’s been fun and exciting! Even having to lie to family, also people aren’t idiots so some of my family who didn’t know have been asking me what I’ve been up to, I’ve been making lies up, like saying I’ve been working in a hotel to get around it. It’s been good. There’s been a bit of speculation that Ross wasn’t dead so I was trying to throw them off by tweeting lies that I had an audition. It’s been a lot of fun!

>How long have you known about the twist?

I found out a good few months ago. Anthony Quinlan had this meeting with Kate Oates where she told him what was going on and he looked shell-shocked from what he had just found out. He wouldn’t tell me, which started to make me panic, he said he couldn’t tell me and I had to speak to Kate. Automatically I started to fear the worst. Then when she told me I was chuffed to bits, I thought it was another great storyline and the fact that it seemed to have worked means it’s paid off.

>What lengths have you been to in order to keep this a secret?

I’ve been sneaking in and out of the building. I even walked home in one of the costume coats the other day because there were a few people outside the studio. I couldn’t get in and out of the building without being seen.

>Did any of your family and friends fall for it?

It was funny, I got so many different reactions. Some people were like, ‘You’ll get something soon, something bigger!’, or people said I would get a film off the back of it and I was thinking, ‘No, I won’t’ because I am still under contract at Emmerdale. Loads of people were tweeting me making stuff up like how I had signed a contract in August, but I hadn’t. It’s been very positive.

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This is the moment Ross walks back into the Barton house!

>How do you think fans will take the twist?

Hopefully they’ll like it and not go, ‘Bloody hell, he’s back, I hated that character!’. Everyone seems to be genuinely annoyed so hopefully people will be excited by the twist.

>The hospital don’t know Ross’ identity, what’s going to happen next?

He’s in a lot of pain, he’s got to recover and get his head together. Ultimately he’s got two things on his mind - revenge and where is the love of his life? He doesn’t know what’s really gone on, he can’t remember too much. The doctor tells him what happened, he says he was either attacked by a large animal or someone was trying to kill you. So Ross is furious, it’s a pretty cold thing to do to anyone, let alone your little brother. I think Ross has always been painted as the bad one but he’s never done this to anyone.

>Will he go after Debbie or Pete first?

I think getting Debbie will be his revenge!
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Source: http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/news/emmerdales-michael-parr-on-shock-twist-ross-is-alive-and-wants-revenge.php

[Telly Watcher]

The Sun published on Wednesday August 26th 2015:

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Keeping my ‘Ross is back from dead’ story secret was nightmare

Emmerdale Mike Parr star reveals his ‘murder’ plot struggle


WHEN EMMERDALE bad boy Ross Barton was killed off earlier this month, the fans went into meltdown.

After watching him being battered by his crazed brother Pete and dumped in a shallow grave, viewers took to social media to protest.

They demanded the character be brought back — even launching a petition.

And last night, they got their wish. As part of a secret storyline, Ross was seen opening his eyes in a hospital bed.

Viewers had previously seen him dumped in the back of a van, beaten up and then missing from his grave in the woods. In the biggest comeback since Lazarus, it seems the soap villain wasn’t really dead.

And now he’s ready to unleash Barton boy chaos.

For actor Mike Parr, keeping quiet about the storyline has been a nightmare.

The heart-throb says: “I’m not exactly the quietest guy and this has been a massive secret.

“I was allowed to tell my mum, dad and grandad but I had to lie to my other family.

“My cousins were asking me about leaving and what I was doing next and I just had to try to fob them off.

“People have been quizzing my grandad. He sent me a text saying I’d made him lie in church.”

And it isn’t just Mike’s family who have been keen to know more. Fans have been bombarding him with messages on Twitter.

He says: “It’s been the maddest thing I’ve experienced.

“On the night Ross got beaten up I got about 300 messages from people who were genuinely really upset.

“So was I when I watched it. It was very emotional — and I knew Ross had survived.

“Since then I’ve had to lie low. When people have stopped me in the street, I’ve had to fib a bit.”

But when Mike, single despite his thousands of online admirers, mentioned a trip to London the social media rumour mill went mad.

He says: “Everyone on Twitter thought I was hinting about a TV role — I think people expect me to turn up on Strictly — but I was just helping a mate move house.”

Things went up a gear last week when fans started a petition calling for Ross to be reinstated.

Mike says: “Suddenly there were 30,000 likes on Facebook and I’d got another 20,000 Twitter followers. It was crackers.”

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Ross awake in hospital

Now he can’t wait to see what havoc his character wreaks next.

He says: “Ross is like a cat with nine lives. You can’t keep him down so there are going to be fireworks.

“The writers have still got a few tricks up their sleeves — is he going to hook up with Debbie, try to get revenge on Pete or turn over a new leaf?

“I had some amazing storylines last year but this one has been unreal — and it’s not finished yet.

“We don’t need any more petitions because it looks like Ross is here to stay.”
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Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/soaps/6606659/Emmerdale-star-Mike-Parr-on-keeping-characters-comeback-a-secret.html

[KiwiElle]

Thank goodness all the speculation is over now and we can all relax! :)

Here in NZ we are up to where Debbie has discovered Ross is the father of Moses and so has rejected him and decided to go ahead with marrying Pete. The end of this week sees the start of the SummerFate episodes - we'll be left hanging over the weekend after the helicopter crashes into the wedding reception. It's certainly going to be much easier watching the episodes early next week knowing Ross isn't actually killed by Pete! I did wonder if Ross's fate would still be hanging by the time we get to see the SummerFate episodes... guess not after all.;-)

[mariba]

Pete is facing up to his past on tomorrow's hour long episode..hmm..could it be that Ross is back already..?

[Ruffed_lemur]

Hope Pete gets into trouble with the law, although doubt it will happen. Should be attempted murder.

[mariba]

In today's episode we saw again the typical soapland 'let's gang up against one person'-attitude which I absolutely hate! It's just so black&white that it's not realistic at all.
Yes-Pete did wrong but suddenly everyone has forgot what Ross and especially Debbie did to him.
I just couldn't believe my eyes how strongly his own family turned against him! His mother, who actually tried to kill Ross as a baby herself, leading this shameful brigade! Yes I would be angry at him too, but I wouldn't have treated Pete like that. He knows he's done wrong and the main concern for everyone should be to find Ross now, and for Pete and Ross to try to solve this. They should totally forget about Debbie. But of course this is drama and they(writers) are making the most of it while they can. I just don't like this pointing fingers type of writing..it happens all the time in soaps, so unrealistic that everyone would think the same way and turn against that same person and wouldn't see any other shades in between.
All and all..whole Emmerdale is very hard to watch at the moment and if Ross is going to be adding more misery to it with his return, I don't know..maybe he should have kept away, or at least to make his return very short. I never thought I would say this..
Emmerdale urgently needs some fun and laughter.

[mariba]

In today's episode we saw again the typical soapland 'let's gang up against one person'-attitude which I absolutely hate! It's just so black&white that it's not realistic at all.
Yes-Pete did wrong but suddenly everyone has forgot what Ross and especially Debbie did to him.
I just couldn't believe my eyes how strongly his own family turned against him! His mother, who actually tried to kill Ross as a baby herself, leading this shameful brigade! Yes I would be angry at him too, but I wouldn't have treated Pete like that. He knows he's done wrong and the main concern for everyone should be to find Ross now, and for Pete and Ross to try to solve this. They should totally forget about Debbie. But of course this is drama and they(writers) are making the most of it while they can. I just don't like this pointing fingers type of writing..it happens all the time in soaps, so unrealistic that everyone would think the same way and turn against that same person and wouldn't see any other shades in between.
All and all..whole Emmerdale is very hard to watch at the moment and if Ross is going to be adding more misery to it with his return, I don't know..maybe he should have kept away, or at least to make his return very short. I never thought I would say this..
Emmerdale urgently needs some fun and laughter.

[Ruffed_lemur]

In today's episode we saw again the typical soapland 'let's gang up against one person'-attitude which I absolutely hate! It's just so black&white that it's not realistic at all.
Yes-Pete did wrong but suddenly everyone has forgot what Ross and especially Debbie did to him.
I just couldn't believe my eyes how strongly his own family turned against him! His mother, who actually tried to kill Ross as a baby herself, leading this shameful brigade! Yes I would be angry at him too, but I wouldn't have treated Pete like that. He knows he's done wrong and the main concern for everyone should be to find Ross now, and for Pete and Ross to try to solve this. They should totally forget about Debbie. But of course this is drama and they(writers) are making the most of it while they can. I just don't like this pointing fingers type of writing..it happens all the time in soaps, so unrealistic that everyone would think the same way and turn against that same person and wouldn't see any other shades in between.
All and all..whole Emmerdale is very hard to watch at the moment and if Ross is going to be adding more misery to it with his return, I don't know..maybe he should have kept away, or at least to make his return very short. I never thought I would say this..
Emmerdale urgently needs some fun and laughter.

Like Debbie said, what she did wasn't as bad as what Pete did.

[mariba]

Debbie was the cause of it. As were the family around them. All of them knew what was going on and yet none of them thought of telling Pete before they got married!
I like Ross, but I can see this from Pete's point of view as well. I must say I did like Ross more before she became obsessed with Debbie. Donna and Ross were great.
We'll see what happens..

[mariba]

Debbie was the cause of it. As were the family around them. All of them knew what was going on and yet none of them thought of telling Pete before they got married!
I like Ross, but I can see this from Pete's point of view as well. I must say I did like Ross more before she became obsessed with Debbie. Donna and Ross were great.
We'll see what happens..

[Telly Watcher]

Pete is facing up to his past on tomorrow's hour long episode..hmm..could it be that Ross is back already..?

I watched last night's Wednesday episode and a number of things of interest got shown.

First off, Ross had been carrying the fake passport that Cain had got for him in the name of Stephen Parkin. (I wonder if he had Cain's cash on him too?)

Second off, The police are due to visit him in hospital later today, Thursday August 27th, presumably to enquire about his identity, his injuries and how he got them.

So for now, no-one in the hospital or police knows who Ross really is. I don't think Ross will wait around to meet the police and reckon he'll run away from the hospital early this morning. He could maybe find somewhere to stay away for a while or even go back to Emmerdale directly if he has no money and nowhere else to go.

The ITV spoiler for today's episode says "Pete faces up to the past" and another spoiler summary says:
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Emmerdale Episode Guide – Thursday 27th August

Cain's angry to learn Pete is hanging around but Moira thinks he wouldn't attack Debbie as he worships the ground she walks on. Cain, however, points out Cameron did as well! Later, Debbie's unnerved to see Pete in her house. He tells her he is just picking up his stuff, but he's heartbroken to see she's terrified of him.
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Source: http://www.sofeminine.co.uk/emmerdale-gossip/emmerdale-27-08-pete-is-heartbroken-to-realise-debbie-is-terrified-of-him-s1525362.html

At first I thought the spoilers meant that Pete would find himself away from Debbie, his family and job at the farm, for a while anyway. The ITV spoiler for September 10th says "Pete’s vulnerable state worries his family", so he must have gone downhill mentally/emotionally by then. Even up to then, nothing is mentioned in any spoilers about Ross but we all know that proves nothing, given the secrecy about the whole Ross plot for the past 3 weeks. I suppose Ross could return later today, it is the Thursday big storyline episode after all.

[Perdita]

That would be typical soapland stories ... severely injured person, especially with head injuries, becomes conscious and is well enough to leave hospital with just a few scars in the face to make their way home and threaten the family ... :wall:

[Ruffed_lemur]

Debbie was the cause of it. As were the family around them. All of them knew what was going on and yet none of them thought of telling Pete before they got married!
I like Ross, but I can see this from Pete's point of view as well. I must say I did like Ross more before she became obsessed with Debbie. Donna and Ross were great.
We'll see what happens..

I can see Pete's point of view too, but he went too far!

[tammyy2j]

Debbie was the cause of it. As were the family around them. All of them knew what was going on and yet none of them thought of telling Pete before they got married!
I like Ross, but I can see this from Pete's point of view as well. I must say I did like Ross more before she became obsessed with Debbie. Donna and Ross were great.
We'll see what happens..

Emma did tell Pete she suspected Debbie of wanting Ross but he didn't believe her or Debbie talked him round

Finn and Moira knew about Ross and Debbie only

I think deep down Pete knew Debbie loved Ross more than him and was settling, Debbie should have been honest with Pete, if Moses true father wasn't revealed as Ross, he and Debbie would be gone

[mariba]

Cain knew, Chas knew, Charity(?)....

[tammyy2j]

Cain knew, Chas knew, Charity(?)....

Did Chas know, she seemed shocked at the wedding or hospital when it came out

Dingles don't rat on their own :p

[lizann]

ross wanting money from lawry white, is he going on run with debbie

[maidmarian]

ross wanting money from lawry white, is he going on run with debbie

could be-it would be a temporary exit line
for Debbie to cover actresses maternity leave?
But not due to go for a while as baby not due
for some time?

[maidmarian]

dupl

[Perdita]

could be-it would be a temporary exit line
for Debbie to cover actresses maternity leave?
But not due to go for a while as baby not due
for some time?

The baby is due in December, so not that long so Charley will probably leave October/November time

[maidmarian]

The baby is due in December, so not that long so Charley will probably leave October/November time

Thankyou Perdita .
I did think it was perhaps a couple of
months or so. But also thought if someone
asking for.money to"disappear" -they
would probably want to go straightaway?

But may want to "repay" Pete meanwhile?

[maidmarian]

Dupl

[Telly Watcher]

Thankyou Perdita .
I did think it was perhaps a couple of
months or so. But also thought if someone
asking for.money to \\"disappear\\" - they
would probably want to go straightaway?

But may want to \\"repay\\" Pete meanwhile?

The spoilers around at the moment for the next two weeks don't mention Ross at all (just more storyline secrecy). Debbie gets mentioned once in the ITV spoiler:

7289 Friday 11 September 7pm – 7.30pm Sarah’s anger forces Debbie to take action

Lawrence asked Ross if the money was for something "highly illegal?". Ross said "You don't want to know, believe me" and "You give me the money, I do what I have to do, and that's the end of it." (sounds like a proper gangster!)

I suspect that the money could involve a plan Ross has to do with using Moses to get back into Debbie's life, as yesterday's episode script talked several times about everything being "all about the kids now", for Debbie and Cain anyway.

Debbie told Ross it was over between them by saying "I nearly died [of injuries from the village hall]. My kids would have had to grow up without their mum. I can't go on living just for me. I have to do the best for them, nothing else can get in the way. For Sarah, for Jack, for everyone. This has got to end. That's it. It's over."

Afterwards, she went to the pub and told Cain "I'm moving on. You know like you said, it's all about the kids now and that's all I'm thinking about."

I can't see Debbie or Ross leaving the village very soon, as Ross has only just come back and it is too soon for Debbie's maternity leave.

Ross' plan could be anything, nice or nasty, but Ross is still desperate to get Debbie. Ross could just be the 'doting dad', buy a smart baby-buggy and use Moses as a 'little brother' for Sarah and Jack to love so he can get back with Debbie this way, but whatever Ross' plan is, I think it could be the starting point for Debbie's exit scenes, though, so it could be something big, even shocking. The biggest and nastiest scenario I can think of right now is some sort of disappearance plot (like using a secret baby-sitter and Ross pretending a kidnap has happened), but surely even Ross wouldn't pay to make this happen would he? If so, would he frame Pete as being involved?


Emmerdale Twitter account has some tweets of ideas about what Ross could be up to at:

https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/637330570796658689

[Telly Watcher]

There are some other storyline ideas for Ross in the Daily Express.

Daily Express published on Friday August 28th 2015:
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Emmerdale: Viewers thrilled by Ross Barton's return and mull over his devious plans
ROSS BARTON (Michael Parr) has only just come back from the dead on Emmerdale but it looks like the village bad boy is already up to his old tricks again.
By Neela Debnath
PUBLISHED: 20:41, Fri, Aug 28, 2015 | UPDATED: 23:21, Fri, Aug 28, 2015

He was let out of hospital despite having a serious blood clot and went straight over to see Debbie (Charley Webb) but was promptly spurned.

After being rejected by ex-lover and new sister-in-law, Ross appeared to be making plans but just what he was doing remained a mystery.

He called Lawrence White (John Bowe) and the pair had a clandestine meeting during which Ross asked for a wad of cash.

Viewers were left mulling over what Ross could be planning and shared their thoughts on social media after the Emmerdale Twitter account posed the question to them.

Liam Miller wrote: "@emmerdale either revenge on pete or mabye cain dont know just hope hes not planning on leaving with moses."

While a user called Rhi said: "Ross is going to get revenge on Pete, i cant wait to see it. So glad he is back!"

Another user was more optimistic that Ross, who melted hearts tonight as swaddled baby Moses, was going to do something good.

"@emmerdale think he wants money to buy a house and settle down with Debbie and the kids, and live happy ever after!!!!!," the user Goodevans wrote, perhaps somewhat ironically.

One user named Button said: "Dying to know also what Ross is planning, whatever it is, it's gonna be epic!!! #emmerdale."

Other viewers were just happy to see the character back on the soap and shared their glee at his comeback.

Heather said: "@emmerdale i know what hes up to but you cant stay angry with him for long lol." Her thoughts were shared by Melanie, who posted:" I don't think people realise just how happy I am that Ross is back in emmerdale. #rossisntdead."

"So glad @MikeParrActor hasn't left #Emmerdale...made it bearable whilst being forced to watch it over the past few weeks!" tweeted Ross Atkinson.

Actor Michael has already said that Ross's return is going to be "electric" and promised there was "going to be trouble".

The 29-year-old actor also said that Cain Dingle (Jeff Hordley) would be "heavily involved" in the storyline, which is likely to be linked to the white van incident where Ross was left inside the vehicle as it teetered on the edge of a cliff.
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Source: http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/601545/Emmerdale-Ross-Barton-Michael-Parr-ITV-Debbie-Pete-Anthony-Quinlan-Twitter

[maidmarian]

dupl

[maidmarian]

There are some other storyline ideas for Ross in the Daily Express.

Daily Express published on Friday August 28th 2015:
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Emmerdale: Viewers thrilled by Ross Barton's return and mull over his devious plans
ROSS BARTON (Michael Parr) has only just come back from the dead on Emmerdale but it looks like the village bad boy is already up to his old tricks again.
By Neela Debnath
PUBLISHED: 20:41, Fri, Aug 28, 2015 | UPDATED: 23:21, Fri, Aug 28, 2015

He was let out of hospital despite having a serious blood clot and went straight over to see Debbie (Charley Webb) but was promptly spurned.

After being rejected by ex-lover and new sister-in-law, Ross appeared to be making plans but just what he was doing remained a mystery.

He called Lawrence White (John Bowe) and the pair had a clandestine meeting during which Ross asked for a wad of cash.

Viewers were left mulling over what Ross could be planning and shared their thoughts on social media after the Emmerdale Twitter account posed the question to them.

Liam Miller wrote: \"@emmerdale either revenge on pete or mabye cain dont know just hope hes not planning on leaving with moses.\"

While a user called Rhi said: \"Ross is going to get revenge on Pete, i cant wait to see it. So glad he is back!\"

Another user was more optimistic that Ross, who melted hearts tonight as swaddled baby Moses, was going to do something good.

\"@emmerdale think he wants money to buy a house and settle down with Debbie and the kids, and live happy ever after!!!!!,\" the user Goodevans wrote, perhaps somewhat ironically.

One user named Button said: \"Dying to know also what Ross is planning, whatever it is, it's gonna be epic!!! #emmerdale.\"

Other viewers were just happy to see the character back on the soap and shared their glee at his comeback.

Heather said: \"@emmerdale i know what hes up to but you cant stay angry with him for long lol.\" Her thoughts were shared by Melanie, who posted:\" I don't think people realise just how happy I am that Ross is back in emmerdale. #rossisntdead.\"

\"So glad @MikeParrActor hasn't left #Emmerdale...made it bearable whilst being forced to watch it over the past few weeks!\" tweeted Ross Atkinson.

Actor Michael has already said that Ross's return is going to be \"electric\" and promised there was \"going to be trouble\".

The 29-year-old actor also said that Cain Dingle (Jeff Hordley) would be \"heavily involved\" in the storyline, which is likely to be linked to the white van incident where Ross was left inside the vehicle as it teetered on the edge of a cliff.
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Source: http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/601545/Emmerdale-Ross-Barton-Michael-Parr-ITV-Debbie-Pete-Anthony-Quinlan-Twitter

Thanks v much Telly Watcher for taking time
to give me all the above info.
Lots to mull over !! thanks again MM

[mariba]

Well-I wish Ross would focus on Moses now(even if he used him to get Debbie back). They look cute together :) Would be nice to have a short break from all the misery and fighting. It's been really hard to watch.
I still think though that Moses isn't his son, but actually Declan's.

[mariba]

Well-I wish Ross would focus on Moses now(even if he used him to get Debbie back). They look cute together :) Would be nice to have a short break from all the misery and fighting. It's been really hard to watch.
I still think though that Moses isn't his son, but actually Declan's.

[Telly Watcher]

Ross has a lot of previous nasty history. Check out Michael Parr's interview below which he gave to digitalspy.co.uk on Tuesday November 26th 2013, about a month after he was shown as a regular Emmerdale character on TV in October 2013.

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'Emmerdale': Michael Parr reveals new Ross Barton twists
By Daniel Kilkelly
Tuesday, Nov 26 2013, 00:01 GMT
Emmerdale's James, Ross, Pete and Finn

Viewers know that Ross has caused nothing but trouble since his debut on the show - especially for Gabby's step mum Laurel - but has he really come good at last?

Here, Michael Parr - who plays Ross - reveals more about the storyline and his character's motivations.

Quite a few people in the village are convinced that Ross is a nasty piece of work. Would you describe him as that?
"He is a nasty piece of work, but nobody is just one thing. There are many levels to Ross, but all that we've seen so far is him just being a nasty piece of work. Over time you may see another side to him but predominantly he is that, yes!"

The Laurel carjacking incident wasn't a first for Ross, was it?
"No, it wasn't a first, and he does it out of necessity. It's not because he's necessarily getting a thrill from it, but he's a rough lad and that's how he makes his money, so he does it to survive."

Does Ross feel any guilt about what he's putting Laurel through at the moment?
"There is an element of guilt but also he's out for himself - he's just trying to survive. Ross is an adapter, he's just doing whatever he has to do to get by."

Next week, Ross saves Gabby by jumping in front of a car when she's about to be knocked over. Does he do that to earn favour, or is it an instinctive reaction?
"No, it's completely instinctive. He's just doing a good deed. He's doing what anybody would probably do to protect someone who's in need. It was a really fun moment to shoot - it was a hard scene, but it's going to look great. There's a car which is going pretty fast, so Ross grabs Gabby to get her out of the way. Unfortunately, he gets hit by the car himself."

How badly is Ross hurt?
"He's hurt pretty badly, and he's still got his gun wound, too. He doesn't break any bones but there's a lot of bruising and a couple of cuts on his face."

Later in the week, Marcus comes back to haunt Ross and Cain by trashing Butler's Farm and attacking Adam and Moira. How does Ross feel about that?
"Well, the place looks like a complete mess. There's been a fire, they've ransacked the house, they've stolen lots of things and there's some personal things to Moira that have been taken as well or lost in the destruction.

"Ross feels absolutely gutted - this is not what he wanted, but ultimately he believes that this wouldn't have happened without Cain. Cain is the one that's got him involved in this and it was just a little bit above his head."

So he doesn't blame himself then?
"There is an element of guilt within himself, but he always thinks the way his life has turned out is somebody else's fault. He's a blamer - he always puts it onto somebody else."

How would you describe Ross's relationship with Moira?
"I can't give too much away but he needs a mother figure in his life. She has that hold over him and she's actually somebody who's been nice to him and there's been a lot of years in his life when nobody's given any thoughts towards him or cared about where he is. Well, that's what he thinks anyway. So when somebody is nice to him, it's a change and it's unusual."

What does Ross make of Cain?
"He likes Cain's wild side, because he's a wild boy himself and he kind of looks up to Cain. They can work together. Ross recognises himself in Cain and vice versa. There's a connection between them because of the lives that they've had.

"So there's a bit of mutual respect for each other, even though they seem to rub each other up the wrong way because they're very good at getting on the wrong side of people."

Ross takes a liking to Debbie Dingle, doesn't he?
"He fancies every girl, but Debbie is particularly beautiful and she's moody and stubborn. She doesn't really let on too much, so I think Ross sees her as a bit of a challenge."

He likes the look of Katie too, doesn't he?
"Yeah, Katie is another beautiful girl that he sees. He finds out that she's married at the time or she's going through a divorce and that's another element of a challenge to him. It's something he's got to try and crack, and it's a conquest for him."

Do you think they'd make a good couple?
"No, I don't think Ross is too much of a relationship guy to be honest. He's just had a traumatic upbringing and I don't think he knows how to form relationships with people very well - he finds it weird when people are nice to him. He also prefers being on the wrong side of people - he's looking for a scrap most of the time!"

Have you settled in well to Emmerdale?
"I have yeah. Everyone has been absolutely amazing. I've been working with people who have been in the show for 10 years now. Everyone's welcomed me here and given me advice when I've asked for it and just been very caring and nurturing.

"Working with Jeff Hordley (Cain) and Bill Ward (James) is bizarre because I'm from the North West, so growing up we'd watch the Northern dramas. I'd see Bill in Corrie and watch Jeff in Emmerdale, so to be on set with them sometimes it can be a bit daunting and I feel a little bit starstruck because I've grown up with those guys.

"Working with Nat [J Robb, who plays Moira] is absolutely amazing - she's so much fun on set and she's a constant professional. They've all been really nice and helped me so much."

Who are your favourite Emmerdale characters from your time watching the show?
"Cain. I love the bad guys, but Cain has always been on that right side of not being a murderer but liking a fight. He's just played it so well over time."

Would you like Ross to show a softer side like Cain?
"Well, I think he is a bad boy so he's got to be bad. He doesn't know how to be good, because nobody's really been good to him and he's placing the blame. Ross is bitter and angry about things, so it's going to be a long time before he softens - if he softens at all. I think it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better."

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Last year you appeared on Hollyoaks as Leah's real father Billy. Did that give you a taste for working on a soap?
"Yeah, although I only did one episode with them. I was meant to do a few more but it didn't pan out. But yeah, it was very fast and really gave me a good insight into how this whole machine works. I wasn't quite aware of how many people actually work for Emmerdale when I first started.

"The hardest part has been actually learning everybody's names in the crew and then learning the actors' names. That's been the most overwhelming part of it - not necessarily the acting or the job itself, it's just meeting everybody."

Did your family and friends watch it before as well?
"Yeah, my grandparents and aunties watched it quite religiously, and I've got a little sister who's only 3, so we've not really shown her too much because it's a bit dark. She doesn't understand, she just keeps calling out 'Mike's on the TV!'"

How did you feel about your casting being kept secret?
"It was a hard one for me to keep a secret. I told my very good friends and some family. I didn't even tell all my family because I wanted it to be a surprise. I knew they watched Emmerdale so I wanted them to turn it on and be like, 'Oh my god! It's our Michael'.

"But yeah, Twitter just exploded that night. There were lovely messages coming through a lot of requests on Facebook from people I don't exactly know, but I was ready for that and I knew that was what would happen."

Additional reporting by Daniel Welsh.

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Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/scoop/a533714/emmerdale-michael-parr-reveals-new-ross-barton-twists.html

[Telly Watcher]

Emmerdale: Murder on his mind…

ROSS Barton prepares to kill his brother Pete – and make it look like suicide.

By SUSAN HILL / Published 6th September 2015

REVENGE: Ross has been waiting to get back at Pete since learning about the affair

The hunk has been waiting to get his revenge since Pete beat him up after discovering his brother was having an affair with his wife Debbie.

Believing he had killed Ross, Pete dug a shallow grave in the woods.

But his younger brother was alive and found by locals out walking.

Ross has been waiting for the perfect opportunity to get his revenge.

So when Pete gets drunk and stumbles back into the caravan before passing out, he is waiting in the wings.

He stands over his drunk brother and lifts him on to the bed. Ross then pulls out a gun before positioning it to make it look like suicide – then he aims the weapon.

“It’s a storyline that has gripped fans, especially after everyone was led to believe Ross was dead”

ITV viewers will have to wait to see whether Ross goes through with his murderous plan.

An Emmerdale insider said: “Ross has been waiting to get his revenge. Pete is at rock bottom and on a path to self-destruction.

“But Ross wants to make him pay for what he did to him. He comes up with the perfect plan but can he really kill Pete?

“It’s a storyline that has gripped fans, especially after everyone was led to believe Ross was dead.

“What Pete did to him was terrible but he didn’t plan what happened.

"What Ross is planning to do is a lot worse, especially if he does pull the trigger and murder his brother.”

Watch all the action – and see what Ross does after placing the gun beside his brother Pete – a week on Tuesday.

Source:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-tv/hot-tv/463288/Emmerdale-Ross-Barton-kill-brother-Pete-suicide

[Dalesfan]

I don't think he will do it. And anyway I'm sure Anthony has still been at studios so....

[Telly Watcher]

I don't think he will do it. And anyway I'm sure Anthony has still been at studios so....

I too have doubts about whether Ross kills off Pete this time.

Anthony Quinlan's Emmerdale contract expires around December 2015 so he would be expected to be on our TV screens until at least February 2016 even if his contract isn't renewed.

Maybe we'll now get tit-for-tat storylines where Ross and Pete take turns at trying to kill each other! (But just like any game of Russian Roulette, someone dies eventually!)

Source:
http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/news/anthony-quinlan-signs-new-emmerdale-contract.php#results

[Dalesfan]

Yeah unfortunately it is going to go round in circles. I kinda wish it wouldn't though as there are only so many times we can watch them get revenge. Maybe the actual twist is that Debbie and Pete leave together!

[Telly Watcher]

digitalspy.co.uk published on 06-09-15:
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Soap Spoilers: Emmerdale revenge
By Sophie Dainty
Sunday, Sep 6 2015, 00:01 BST

Over on Emmerdale, Ross Barton will prepare to take the ultimate revenge on his brother Pete as he plans to kill him and make it look like suicide.

Ross (Michael Parr) was seemingly killed off in dramatic scenes last month as a fight between Ross and Pete went horribly wrong, but a later twist revealed that he wasn't dead after all.

Upcoming scenes will see Pete realise he needs to seek help for his mental state, but Ross naturally fails to feel concerned for his brother's welfare and instead comes up with a plan to get him out of his and Debbie's lives for good.

When Emma checks Ross's laptop, she is pleased to see he's searched how to help people suffering with depression, but it soon becomes clear that it is part of a wider plan as he drops all pretence once she leaves and smiles to himself.

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A drunken Pete gets into the caravan

Although, dubious at first, Finn is also impressed by Ross's efforts to cheer up Pete when he suggests they all go to the pub. However, before they meet, Ross writes a fake suicide note from Pete, before checking his gun is loaded with bullets.

When Ross gets to the pub, he proceeds to supply Pete with alcohol and when Emma arrives he encourages her to take Finn home whilst he stays with an increasingly drunken Pete.

Later that night Pete lets himself into the caravan and falls on the floor in a drunken heap, prompting Ross to step in and lift him onto the bed.

After he closes the door, Ross stands over a drunk and passed out Pete before pulling the gun out and positioning it to look like a suicide. Ross then aims the gun at Pete and is set to pull the trigger...

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Ross pulls out a gun, and gets ready to shoot

Emmerdale airs these scenes on Tuesday September 15 at 7pm on ITV.
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Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a666932/soap-spoilers-eastenders-birth-corrie-accident-emmerdale-revenge-hollyoaks-mistake.html

[Dalesfan]

So Debbie shocks her family after these scenes and James worries for his family. Wonder if Ross changes his mind and doesn't actually go though with it or he is somehow interrupted and his plan backfires and James catches him or something. Worrying for his family would be accurate has his sons can't seem to go a day without trying to kill ech other

[mariba]

I was kind of hoping that Ross would have left it there, and his 'revenge' would have been just to get on with his life, focus on his son and forget about Debbie(and Pete). Why does there always have to be violence involved in soaps?
I do hope that Ross won't go ahead with it. I've started to like Pete more with this storyline so would hate to see him go. But I hope their family sees Ross's true colors, he's been treated like a saint after the incident. Maybe after this Pete and Ross will be even at last.

[mariba]

I was kind of hoping that Ross would have left it there, and his 'revenge' would have been just to get on with his life, focus on his son and forget about Debbie(and Pete). Why does there always have to be violence involved in soaps?
I do hope that Ross won't go ahead with it. I've started to like Pete more with this storyline so would hate to see him go. But I hope their family sees Ross's true colors, he's been treated like a saint after the incident. Maybe after this Pete and Ross will be even at last.

[Dalesfan]

I agree that it would have been better to see him get Debbie back and that would be the perfect revenge for Ross. I think this is rather extreme and I really hope he doesn't go through with it (I don't think he will)The thing with Ross being treated like a saint. Probably for the first time in his life he is enjoying having a little bit of love shown to him. But I think he is still hurt with what happened to him and how his family protected Pete. It's a confrontation I wish we had seen. Ross would have been marched straight down the station if it was him. On the other hand Ross does have to realise that he cheated with his brother's fiancé regardless of him having a soft spot for Debbie before she was even with Pete, Pete is still his brother. The one person coming out of this smelling of Roses is Debbie, she seems to have got away with what she did.

[Ruffed_lemur]

I just wish Ross would report Pete to the police for attempted murder.

[tammyy2j]

Emmerdale star Michael Parr has discussed his character Ross Barton's dark plan to kill his brother Pete next week.

Ross will plot the ultimate revenge on Pete as he prepares to kill him and set the scene up to look like his sibling has taken his own life.
Speaking about his character's twisted revenge plan, Parr said: "It's very clever for Ross. No one is a murderer until they kill someone.

"When somebody is pushed then who knows what they are capable of? Ross is very dangerous, but you will have to wait and see how angry he really is."

One of the driving forces behind Ross's plan to get rid of Pete for good is his desire to be with Debbie Dingle.

The pair will decide to rekindle their relationship next week after Debbie tells Ross that she wants them to be together.
Parr said: "There is a genuine love there. At first it was just Ross wanting to have what his brother has. But there has always been a connection and it was there even before Donna.

"He has genuine feelings for her and I think Ross will pursue that. They are very volatile - they are that couple that are together on the Friday night, by the Saturday they have split up, they get back together during the week and by the weekend they have split up again.

"I think they genuinely care about each other but they don't quite know how to handle each other's feelings because they are very passionate people."

[deeCee]

Dear God, does there have to be more Ross and Debbie :thumbsdow, and yet more violence between two brothers :(

[tammyy2j]

Dear God, does there have to be more Ross and Debbie :thumbsdow, and yet more violence between two brothers :(

And Debbie was to put her kids first, hope Cain washes his hands of her now and concentrates on Kyle

[Cheetah]

So who was he on the phone to - my money's on Ged - I think he's going to be doing Ged's dirty work on Harriet.

[Telly Watcher]

So who was he on the phone to - my money's on Ged - I think he's going to be doing Ged's dirty work on Harriet.

I don't know who Ross was on the phone with but I think he phoned to arrange postal delivery of the gun to him which he plans to shoot Pete with on Tuesday 15th?

[Dalesfan]

Dear God, does there have to be more Ross and Debbie :thumbsdow, and yet more violence between two brothers :(

Don't worry seems it only lasts few days. Debbie tells Ross on the 25th she can't give him what he wants and Pete looks on triumphantly as he sees his brother feel pain of rejection. Ross then decides he's leaving for about the 1000th time :p


So who was he on the phone to - my money's on Ged - I think he's going to be doing Ged's dirty work on Harriet.

I'm was thinking it was just a mate. I think he was looking for a place to stay after he kills Pete?

[rossfan]

Michael Parr is still filming, he tweeted today a picture of him with an ITV cupcake celebrating it's birthday!

Unless he's doing another show for ITV!?

[rossfan]

Michael Parr is still filming, he tweeted today a picture of him with an ITV cupcake celebrating it's birthday!

Unless he's doing another show for ITV!?

[JessicaMad]

He's set to return to ED soon, but I'm wondering, is he really the dad? We know what Charity is like, she will do anything to get her own way, even if it means messing with Moses' life. I hope he is the dad because if he isn't, it'll end up being Declan, who isn't returning any time soon-potential storylines out of the window. Plus, that'd be 2 storylines involving a fake paternity running at the same time (Kirin and Johnny), bit over the top.
What do you think?

[Dalesfan]

There is probably always a chance they could decide to take that route. Would seem a little strange having the who's the daddy story though and the big build up and then just doing it all again if Ross isn't the dad. If Charity was lying then you would think she would trap someone who would be worth it for her. Someone with a load of cash. What does she get from saying Ross is the dad? I hope for Moses sake and Ross' that he is. We don't need to do this all over again.

[JessicaMad]

Charity reacted badly when Debbie told her about the affair with Ross, so she could have tried to use Moses to make him back of, but she also could've had that reaction because she was disgusted by the fact she was carrying the baby of her daughters, fiancés, brother who her daughter happened to be sleeping with (that took a few time to get right!).

I just can't shake of the fact that a DNA test was never done, we don't know exactly how many men Charity was sleeping with around November 2014. If I was Ross I've gotten a DNA test before doing anything else.

[JessicaMad]

Charity reacted badly when Debbie told her about the affair with Ross, so she could have tried to use Moses to make him back of, but she also could've had that reaction because she was disgusted by the fact she was carrying the baby of her daughters, fiancés, brother who her daughter happened to be sleeping with (that took a few time to get right!).

I just can't shake of the fact that a DNA test was never done, we don't know exactly how many men Charity was sleeping with around November 2014. If I was Ross I've gotten a DNA test before doing anything else.

[Kim]

On balance, I think yes, Ross is the father.

Very few paternities in are set in stone these days (see Adam Barton!), and with Ross still alive, they don't need Moses to be his for Ross to live on. But, as well as there being another paternity story ongoing, if it happened, it would cause James to go from two grandchildren to none. This again seems repetitive, although I think it was mentioned that Emma would go a bit more crazy in an upcoming storyline, so perhaps. She does seem to have bonded with Moses more so than anyone else.

If Charity was using Moses to split Debbie and Ross up, I think she'd have been a bit more forthcoming with his paternity. I'd go with he is Ross's and Charity was embarrassed.

I wouldn't be surprised if the issue of Moses's paternity came up again, but I could see Charity claiming he was actually Cain's in her effort to split Moira and Cain up. They could do a storyline with Emma and one with Charity/Cain/Moira without going the repetitive route if Moses remained Ross's.

As you say, Declan isn't likely to return and I think it's a waste of time having one of the child's parents off screen. For that reason I would rule out some random. Cain has Kyle still to bond with; Megan a storyline with Jai/baby rather than needing a piece of Declan to fight for.

[JessicaMad]

On balance, I think yes, Ross is the father.

Very few paternities in are set in stone these days (see Adam Barton!), and with Ross still alive, they don't need Moses to be his for Ross to live on. But, as well as there being another paternity story ongoing, if it happened, it would cause James to go from two grandchildren to none. This again seems repetitive, although I think it was mentioned that Emma would go a bit more crazy in an upcoming storyline, so perhaps. She does seem to have bonded with Moses more so than anyone else.

If Charity was using Moses to split Debbie and Ross up, I think she'd have been a bit more forthcoming with his paternity. I'd go with he is Ross's and Charity was embarrassed.

I wouldn't be surprised if the issue of Moses's paternity came up again, but I could see Charity claiming he was actually Cain's in her effort to split Moira and Cain up. They could do a storyline with Emma and one with Charity/Cain/Moira without going the repetitive route if Moses remained Ross's.

As you say, Declan isn't likely to return and I think it's a waste of time having one of the child's parents off screen. For that reason I would rule out some random. Cain has Kyle still to bond with; Megan a storyline with Jai/baby rather than needing a piece of Declan to fight for.

Good points. I actually like the idea of Charity pretending Moses is Cain's and then it is revealed that Ross is actually the father.

[JessicaMad]

On balance, I think yes, Ross is the father.

Very few paternities in are set in stone these days (see Adam Barton!), and with Ross still alive, they don't need Moses to be his for Ross to live on. But, as well as there being another paternity story ongoing, if it happened, it would cause James to go from two grandchildren to none. This again seems repetitive, although I think it was mentioned that Emma would go a bit more crazy in an upcoming storyline, so perhaps. She does seem to have bonded with Moses more so than anyone else.

If Charity was using Moses to split Debbie and Ross up, I think she'd have been a bit more forthcoming with his paternity. I'd go with he is Ross's and Charity was embarrassed.

I wouldn't be surprised if the issue of Moses's paternity came up again, but I could see Charity claiming he was actually Cain's in her effort to split Moira and Cain up. They could do a storyline with Emma and one with Charity/Cain/Moira without going the repetitive route if Moses remained Ross's.

As you say, Declan isn't likely to return and I think it's a waste of time having one of the child's parents off screen. For that reason I would rule out some random. Cain has Kyle still to bond with; Megan a storyline with Jai/baby rather than needing a piece of Declan to fight for.

Good points. I actually like the idea of Charity pretending Moses is Cain's and then it is revealed that Ross is actually the father.

[lizann]

emma should get a dna test for ross but do think ross is real father of moses

[rossfan]

I don't think he is. I think he will bond with Moses, Charity comes back and takes him away from Ross. There will be a custody battle where Ross will have to prove he is the dad by a dna test but he's not. I think he will lose the battle but fights for him again when Debbie comes back.

[rossfan]

Firstly I am so happy Michael Parr won all the awards he was nominated for last week.

I have been thinking about what will happen with Ross with Moses with Debbie away.

I think eventually it will be revealed he isnt the dad. I think he will bond with Moses, Charity comes back and takes him away from Ross. There will be a custody battle where Ross will have to prove he is the dad by a dna test but he's not. I think he will lose the battle but fights for him again when Debbie comes back.

[rossfan]

Firstly I am so happy Michael Parr won all the awards he was nominated for last week.

I have been thinking about what will happen with Ross with Moses with Debbie away.

I think eventually it will be revealed he isnt the dad. I think he will bond with Moses, Charity comes back and takes him away from Ross. There will be a custody battle where Ross will have to prove he is the dad by a dna test but he's not. I think he will lose the battle but fights for him again when Debbie comes back.

[maidmarian]

Firstly I am so happy Michael Parr won all the awards he was nominated for last week.

I have been thinking about what will happen with Ross with Moses with Debbie away.

I think eventually it will be revealed he isnt the dad. I think he will bond with Moses, Charity comes back and takes him away from Ross. There will be a custody battle where Ross will have to prove he is the dad by a dna test but he's not. I think he will lose the battle but fights for him again when Debbie comes back.


Agreed about the awards!

Any ideas about the storyline that will be the
catalyst for Debbie to leave(.for Charlies
maternity break)!?
The actress has said she would like a quiet exit -
but not sure thats likely!!

[maidmarian]

Dupl

[mariba]

I hope that's not the case as I'm expecting that to happen with Adam/Kirin/Vanessa triangle. Adam loves Johnny thinking he's his when the truth is revealed and so on..dragging on that one too. I would hope Declan came back and baby was his.

[Kim]

Presumably the reason for Ross's current absence is that Michael had to stop filming while everyone was supposed to think Ross was dead. If not, the secret would have been blown if anyone saw him entering/leaving the studios.

[Serena Williams]

Presumably the reason for Ross's current absence is that Michael had to stop filming while everyone was supposed to think Ross was dead. If not, the secret would have been blown if anyone saw him entering/leaving the studios.

Maybe you are right ross was bludgeoned by Pete in August 2015 but when was the who shot Robert scene filmed? People say Emmerdale films six weeks in advance but I feel it is more than that.

[Serena Williams]

Presumably the reason for Ross's current absence is that Michael had to stop filming while everyone was supposed to think Ross was dead. If not, the secret would have been blown if anyone saw him entering/leaving the studios.

Maybe you are right ross was bludgeoned by Pete in August 2015 but when was the who shot Robert scene filmed? People say Emmerdale films six weeks in advance but I feel it is more than that.

[Dalesfan]

Presumably the reason for Ross's current absence is that Michael had to stop filming while everyone was supposed to think Ross was dead. If not, the secret would have been blown if anyone saw him entering/leaving the studios.

He was still filming as he said he had to sneak in and out of studios. He is currently on a two week holiday though so not sure if Ross had to go away so that this could be covered?

[Dalesfan]

Maybe you are right ross was bludgeoned by Pete in August 2015 but when was the who shot Robert scene filmed? People say Emmerdale films six weeks in advance but I feel it is more than that.

Not sure but the bike stuff we seen last week was filmed on 8th September

[JessicaMad]

Duplicate post. The site keeps dking this automatically?

[JessicaMad]

I hope that's not the case as I'm expecting that to happen with Adam/Kirin/Vanessa triangle. Adam loves Johnny thinking he's his when the truth is revealed and so on..dragging on that one too. I would hope Declan came back and baby was his.

In my ideal world, Declan would've been the father. But the actor said he isn't likely to return, so I wouldn't really enjoy it if the story came out like that, so Ross should stay the father. I agree that it'd be ridiculous having 2 "baby daddy drama" stories running at the same time. ED need to develop the Ross/Moses storyline rather than messing it up with stupid plot twists.

[rossfan]

Presumably the reason for Ross's current absence is that Michael had to stop filming while everyone was supposed to think Ross was dead. If not, the secret would have been blown if anyone saw him entering/leaving the studios.

I was thinking this myself.

[tammyy2j]

Ross wants Moses when he thinks it will look with Debbie, he has bounded more with April

[rossfan]

Ross wants Moses when he thinks it will look with Debbie, he has bounded more with April

True at the moment. I am hoping with Debbie going that will change and Ross will be left to look after him.

[rossfan]

Ross wants Moses when he thinks it will look with Debbie, he has bounded more with April

True at the moment. I am hoping with Debbie going that will change and Ross will be left to look after him.

[JessicaMad]

True at the moment. I am hoping with Debbie going that will change and Ross will be left to look after him.

Yup, I'm hoping that as well. Except he'd probably just dump him on Emma 24/7, until Emma got fed up.

[JessicaMad]

True at the moment. I am hoping with Debbie going that will change and Ross will be left to look after him.

Yup, I'm hoping that as well. Except he'd probably just dump him on Emma 24/7, until Emma got fed up.

[Kim]

Certainly looks likely that Ross did it right now. Ross keeps to his end of the bargain and Andy bottles it and takes himself to the mental hospital?

[Butterbean]

I think Andy's part was carried out - the bike incident - but then he chickened out and saved Pete.

[Kim]

I think Andy's part was carried out - the bike incident - but then he chickened out and saved Pete.

Good thinking - if both attemps had been made on the same night then presumably they'd each have been prime suspects, but for the other crime. It seemed odd at the time but it is very clever this way. Andy's alibi was the mental hospital and Ross's was that he was nowhere near the village at the time of Pete's crash (and Andy made it look like an accident.)

[tammyy2j]

I think Andy's part was carried out - the bike incident - but then he chickened out and saved Pete.

I didn't think that was planned

[xx_Dan_xx]

I didn't think that was planned

I agree, I don't think the bike incident was part of some plan to kill Pete. I reckon it was an accident but Andy did pause for a second before helping. So I think Andy did contemplate it taking advantage for a moment but overall was wasn't planned.

[xx_Dan_xx]

.

[lizann]

ross will want andy to do his part now

[Kim]

Fear might be wise http://beta.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/emmerdale/news/a675089/emmerdale-star-michael-parr-on-ross-reveal-i-thought-my-days-were-numbered/

While Kate Oates may have plans and be willing to let him go unpunished (legally/in a box), the same might not be true of the subsequent producer.

[Telly Watcher]

Emmerdale star Michael Parr on Ross reveal: 'I thought my days were numbered'

By Daniel Kilkelly
Thursday, Oct 22 2015, 21:00 BST

Emmerdale star Michael Parr feared for his future in the show after hearing that Ross Barton would shoot Robert Sugden.

Ross was tonight (October 22) revealed as the mystery culprit who gunned down Robert, as a special 'rewind' episode took viewers back to that fateful night four weeks ago.

Show producer Kate Oates filled Parr in on the shock storyline well ahead of filming, but he had mixed feelings when he learned what was in store.

Speaking about the big reveal for the first time, Parr confessed: "I was nervous when Kate said, 'You shoot him'. I was like, 'My days in this show are numbered then', but then she gave me foresight that I can't disclose right now.

"I have worried about it before when Ross is about to do bad things. You know that soap has to have this moral justice. Characters have to have a comeuppance, or what does that say to our audience?

"I was worried, but with this, if Robert is getting away with killing Katie, hopefully I am getting away with shooting him!"

Emmerdale's shooting mystery has been running for four weeks.

Parr also joked that he was particularly worried about how fans of Robert and his popular relationship with Aaron Livesy would react.

He laughed: "I am going to have all the 'Robron' fans going, 'I can't believe you have done this!' Then I will have all the Ross fans that go, 'Yeah, it's Ross on screen!'

"I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again.

"There was a point where I thought, 'It doesn't matter what I do at the minute, everybody seems to just be cheering for Ross'. Hopefully this will push them away and remind people I am meant to be a villain, so maybe I was doing my job wrong before!"

Source:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a675089/emmerdale-star-michael-parr-on-ross-reveal-i-thought-my-days-were-numbered.html

[rossfan]

Now that the episode is played out I gotta say, whilst it is disappointing for the Robert storyline that the main instigator of the shooting is someone who has nothing really to do with Robert, they took Ross on a whole new villainous level! Michael Parr owned the episode and played it out to perfection imo.

I've read a few interviews from Michael Parr who made me think that he doesn't have to leave the show. I mean if Robert can stay in the show for killing Katie, Ross can certainly stay in the show for not killing Robert!

[rossfan]

Now that the episode is played out I gotta say, whilst it is disappointing for the Robert storyline that the main instigator of the shooting is someone who has nothing really to do with Robert, they took Ross on a whole new villainous level! Michael Parr owned the episode and played it out to perfection imo.

I've read a few interviews from Michael Parr who made me think that he doesn't have to leave the show. I mean if Robert can stay in the show for killing Katie, Ross can certainly stay in the show for not killing Robert!

[Telly Watcher]

Oh, Ross, just what have you done? What a truly terrible and sad end to become such a twisted nutcase character on primetime ITV. I, and many others, really liked Ross before Pete 'killed' him outside Hotton hospital. There seems to be no way back now for you, Ross, mert. Maybe no upcoming gooey kiddy scenes will be good enough really and able to save you? Maybe Ross now needs to be put back into his 'box' so that we can all move on and be saved from any more of the nutty scally chavy scenes which seem to be those destined for him. Ross's scally 'lad' character has truly been overdone and completely blown now, I and many others online have all thought. I really don't think that the Yorkshire countryside in and around Emmerdale is suitable for any kind of nutcase like Ross. I, for one, am so sorry that Ross has completely lost it. It was nice knowing Ross before he became a potential/real nightmare to any normal TV viewers and kids watching ITV from 7pm on weekdays. Well done, Kate Oates, for showing everyone in UK what Ross really is like and what Mike Parr agreed to act out on primetime ITV for whatever he gets paid to do. Enjoy the money while it lasts, mert. Is Ross the most hated man in Britain right now? I just wish there was some place where I and everyone else in UK could bet on this for reasonable odds above evens return.

[binky321]

I thought the episode was good but I didn't want it to be Ross they have over used him this year causing me to be fed up with the character, I loved Ross since he arrived but his relationship with Debbie wasn't believable - I didn't see the chemistry he had with Donna.

I didn't enjoy his role in the crash episodes either and too many Murder plots for him & others.

I don't think you can compare what Ross did with Robert to Katie - that was an accident one that was covered up but it certainly wasn't planned and only happened because the floor collapsed in the rotten barn at Wylies farm, Ross has beat several people into coma's with his recklessness with a callous intent they have now made him a sinister villain.

Emmerdale's tactic of giving him cute scenes with April/Moses to make him more human or get the ahh factor doesn't wash either to redeem him to viewers.

Ross doesn't necessarily have to leave the show & I don't think he will at least not yet they can give him his comeuppance without that like this is Robert's & Cain had a similar once a few years ago when he got out of hand. I just wish the shooter was someone involved with Robert as it has been taken it away from Robert & is now a Ross story line.

And more importantly I really want poor Aaron out of jail

[Telly Watcher]

I suspect that what we are seeing with Ross's latest nutcase scenes involving Robert's shooting and Pete's viaduct 'suicide' (etc...) are linked into a Ross Emmerdale exit storyline? We all know, as soap viewers, that nearly all Emmerdale 'bad lads' are brought into the show, get fast storylines and leave by burning out sooner rather than later. Mike Parr wouldn't say recently if his Emmerdale contract has been extended but this usually gets renewed every 12 months, so it is due to expire around now, however. Kate Oates brought Ross into Emmerdale during 2013. Maybe she takes him out with her too by the time she leaves as Emmerdale Series Producer by the end of December 2015? Time will tell.

Ross Barton appears at Butler's Farm on October 24th 2013 with a gunshot wound after a dodgy criminal act he agreed to be involved in went wrong
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a526260/emmerdale-unveils-new-regular-ross-barton-in-storyline-twist.html

[deeCee]

When Ross was buried by Pete and was dead, I thought ED had made a grave error getting rid of such a complex character, but now it would have been better to have him killed and buried rather than the slow death of the character that we're now seeing. Next week, he bashes Pete in the head AGAIN, then he hangs him over a bridge - doesn't this constitute torture:hmm: - and then tries to force him, a sufferer of depression, to commit suicide. It's just vile and unpleasant.:thumbsdow

Remember at Cain and Moira's wedding, and Pete and Ross were either side of Finn and started tickling him to get him to cry out? Oh for more moments like that . You know, NORMAL family moments :)

[deeCee]

I suspect that what we are seeing with Ross's latest nutcase scenes involving Robert's shooting and Pete's viaduct 'suicide' (etc...) are linked into a Ross Emmerdale exit storyline? We all know, as soap viewers, that nearly all Emmerdale 'bad lads' are brought into the show, get fast storylines and leave by burning out sooner rather than later. Mike Parr wouldn't say recently if his Emmerdale contract has been extended but this usually gets renewed every 12 months, so it is due to expire around now, however. Kate Oates brought Ross into Emmerdale during 2013. Maybe she takes him out with her too by the time she leaves as Emmerdale Series Producer by the end of December 2015? Time will tell.

Ross Barton appears at Butler's Farm on October 24th 2013 with a gunshot wound after a dodgy criminal act he agreed to be involved in went wrong
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a526260/emmerdale-unveils-new-regular-ross-barton-in-storyline-twist.html

Its certainly looking that way.

[deeCee]

.

[Dalesfan]

There are ways they can "help" Ross. There is obviously something that goes deeper with him and it's something I wish they would explore. He doesn't need to leave as such but I do think he would benefit from having some proper help. Prison could be where he is heading though. The thing with Ross is he has obviously had a troubled life and the stuff he does could be all he knows. I'm in no way excusing any of his behaviour but people don't just go around behaving like they do unless they have serious issues. Pete leaving him for dead has hit a nerve with him and all he sees right now is anger. I don't particularly like him at the moment and him being the shooter is disappointing. I like characters with layers to them though and he certainly has that.

I don't think he will leave with Kate as he has spoken about the new guy coming in. I don't think he will be a long term character either though and Michael Parr has hinted that he wont be there forever. An announcement about a departure for him will not surprise me whenever it comes whether it's this year, next year, 2 years. As I expect it. His contract was up in August though so there must have been some sort of extension

DeeCee I agree about the family moments. It's a shame we don't see more of that aswell. It's nice to see that side to them.

[kennedyfan86]

There are ways they can "help" Ross. There is obviously something that goes deeper with him and it's something I wish they would explore. He doesn't need to leave as such but I do think he would benefit from having some proper help. Prison could be where he is heading though. The thing with Ross is he has obviously had a troubled life and the stuff he does could be all he knows. I'm in no way excusing any of his behaviour but people don't just go around behaving like they do unless they have serious issues. Pete leaving him for dead has hit a nerve with him and all he sees right now is anger. I don't particularly like him at the moment and him being the shooter is disappointing. I like characters with layers to them though and he certainly has that.

I don't think he will leave with Kate as he has spoken about the new guy coming in. I don't think he will be a long term character either though and Michael Parr has hinted that he wont be there forever. An announcement about a departure for him will not surprise me whenever it comes whether it's this year, next year, 2 years. As I expect it. His contract was up in August though so there must have been some sort of extension

DeeCee I agree about the family moments. It's a shame we don't see more of that aswell. It's nice to see that side to them.

Pete is the second person to try and kill Ross, I think his mental state was probably affected. Perhaps damage was done when Emma tried to smother him.
Ross hasn't had any female influence growing up, that's why he was desperate for Emma to stick around, he needs females in his life, but his mad mother isn't one of them. The apple didn't fall far from the tree, we know where Ross gets his mad ideas from.

[kennedyfan86]

There are ways they can "help" Ross. There is obviously something that goes deeper with him and it's something I wish they would explore. He doesn't need to leave as such but I do think he would benefit from having some proper help. Prison could be where he is heading though. The thing with Ross is he has obviously had a troubled life and the stuff he does could be all he knows. I'm in no way excusing any of his behaviour but people don't just go around behaving like they do unless they have serious issues. Pete leaving him for dead has hit a nerve with him and all he sees right now is anger. I don't particularly like him at the moment and him being the shooter is disappointing. I like characters with layers to them though and he certainly has that.

I don't think he will leave with Kate as he has spoken about the new guy coming in. I don't think he will be a long term character either though and Michael Parr has hinted that he wont be there forever. An announcement about a departure for him will not surprise me whenever it comes whether it's this year, next year, 2 years. As I expect it. His contract was up in August though so there must have been some sort of extension

DeeCee I agree about the family moments. It's a shame we don't see more of that aswell. It's nice to see that side to them.

Pete is the second person to try and kill Ross, I think his mental state was probably affected. Perhaps damage was done when Emma tried to smother him.
Ross hasn't had any female influence growing up, that's why he was desperate for Emma to stick around, he needs females in his life, but his mad mother isn't one of them. The apple didn't fall far from the tree, we know where Ross gets his mad ideas from.

[maidmarian]

Pete is the second person to try and kill Ross, I think his mental state was probably affected. Perhaps damage was done when Emma tried to smother him.
Ross hasn't had any female influence growing up, that's why he was desperate for Emma to stick around, he needs females in his life, but his mad mother isn't one of them. The apple didn't fall far from the tree, we know where Ross gets his mad ideas from.

The Jesuits have a saying - Give me a child til he is
seven and I will show you the man.( I don't
subscribe to the theory but children are affected
by their early childhood experiences)

None of the three brothers had much female
influence when growing up( only a non too
bright father)but Pete was under Emmas influence
longest and Finn least which might explain
why he is the nicest.

I liked Ross and distrusted Pete - but I think
unless things change radically - I think they've
lost the plot!!

I would be surprised if Ross left soon- but
not at him taking a break?.

I do agree that Emma has a serious mental
health problem but find the tendency of some
to.put it down solely to PND is an insult to
the majority of women who have had the
illness!
It is very serious and can cause women to
behave completely out of character.
Emmas behaviour is far too controlling and
extreme.Id hope this will be addressed
eventually
I hope they can write their way out of the
quagmire this storyline has become -
with some believability!?

[lizann]

mike parr is going nowhere for a while yet he and ross are too popular

[maidmarian]

mike parr is going nowhere for a while yet he and ross are too popular

I agree- but they did get rid of Carl ( eventually)
and there will be another producer soon-
who may wish to make their mark!

[maidmarian]

mike parr is going nowhere for a while yet he and ross are too popular

I agree- but they did get rid of Carl ( eventually)
and there will be another producer soon-
who may wish to make their mark!

[lizann]

I agree- but they did get rid of Carl ( eventually)
and there will be another producer soon-
who may wish to make their mark!

ross is a league way higher than carl, cain's league

[lizann]

I agree- but they did get rid of Carl ( eventually)
and there will be another producer soon-
who may wish to make their mark!

ross is a league way higher than carl, cain's league

[Kim]

If speculation is correct and Kate Oates takes Ross out with her, he'll be on screen until about February, since they film around 2 months ahead.

[Perdita]

Unless they let him get away with attempted murder, I would have thought that he must leave at some point to go to jail

[maidmarian]

Unless they let him get away with attempted murder, I would have thought that he must leave at some point to go to jail

They usually make people pay in the end- in
soaps -so I would expect that to happen.
Except Pete tried to murder Ross first!!

So not sure where that leaves Soap morals
& Justice in this case?

[Perdita]

Carl King got away with murder ... so justice is not always dished out in soaps

[Telly Watcher]

We've now had Ross and Andy play out Emmerdale's version of novellist Patricia Highsmith's "Strangers On A Train" plot for Robert's shooting during September 2015.

The plot of Patricia Highsmith's 1950 novel "Strangers On A Train" is as follows:
>
The story concerns two strangers who meet on a train, a young tennis player and a charming psychopath. The psychopath suggests that because they each want to "get rid" of someone, they should "exchange" murders, and that way neither will get caught. The first murder is committed; then the psychopath tries to force the tennis player to complete the bargain.
>
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangers_on_a_Train_%28film%29

Prince Charming? Ross? Come on! NOT! Haha!

Now we seem to have West Side Story coming up and Ross now seems to have a social disease. (You heard it here on soapboards first!)

Ross, take my 'brotherly' advice. When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING!

I really never thought the day would come when I would be OK watching Pete on Emmerdale but wouldn't be OK watching Ross. Anyway, that day has come and passed now.

I reckon we're being set up to hate Ross over a very short space of time for some connected storyline involving Debbie.

Mike Parr sort of hinted in a recent Daily Express actor interview that "I'm a sociopath". Actor dreams.

So where is the Ross future going to go? I just wish I was an Emmerdale storyliner. I'm really sure I could bring some common sense and real life experience to the Emmerdale storyliner department.

Anyway, what could existing Emmerdale storyliners have thought up?

1) Maybe Andy gets really drunk in the Woolpack one night, blacks out and he tells all of his dark thoughts to other villagers about how Ross was the one who shot Robert (and other Ross history too that Andy knows about?)? The villagers then take matters into their own hands and Ross is a goner, one way or another?

2) Maybe Debbie becomes aware of Ross's previous actions, she leaves Emmerdale with some/all of her kids, as the Dingles think Debbie has lost contact with reality and so she realises that Ross is a complete nutcase and Cameron #2 impersonator?

3) Ross becomes a manipulative and jealous (violent?) boyfriend for Debbie, so she leaves with the kids, and maybe Cain kills Ross as he's hurt his 'little girl' so much.

#3 sounds good!


West Side Story
>
GEE, OFFICER KRUPKE

ACTION
Dear kindly Sergeant Krupke,
You gotta understand,
It's just our bringin' up-ke
That gets us out of hand.
Our mothers all are junkies,
Our fathers all are drunks.
Golly Moses, natcherly we're punks!

ACTION AND JETS
Gee, Officer Krupke, we're very upset;
We never had the love that ev'ry child oughta get.
We ain't no delinquents,
We're misunderstood.
Deep down inside us there is good!

ACTION
There is good!

ALL
There is good, there is good,
There is untapped good!
Like inside, the worst of us is good!

SNOWBOY: (Spoken) That's a touchin' good story.

ACTION: (Spoken) Lemme tell it to the world!

SNOWBOY: Just tell it to the judge.

ACTION
Dear kindly Judge, your Honor,
My parents treat me rough.
With all their marijuana,
They won't give me a puff.
They didn't wanna have me,
But somehow I was had.
Leapin' lizards! That's why I'm so bad!

DIESEL: (As Judge) Right!

Officer Krupke, you're really a square;
This boy don't need a judge, he needs an analyst's care!
It's just his neurosis that oughta be curbed.
He's psychologic'ly disturbed!

ACTION
I'm disturbed!

JETS
We're disturbed, we're disturbed,
We're the most disturbed,
Like we're psychologic'ly disturbed.

DIESEL: (Spoken, as Judge) In the opinion on this court, this child is depraved on account he ain't had a normal home.

ACTION: (Spoken) Hey, I'm depraved on account I'm deprived.

DIESEL: So take him to a headshrinker.

ACTION (Sings)
My father is a *******,
My ma's an S.O.B.
My grandpa's always plastered,
My grandma pushes tea.
My sister wears a mustache,
My brother wears a dress.
Goodness gracious, that's why I'm a mess!

A-RAB: (As Psychiatrist) Yes!
Officer Krupke, you're really a slob.
This boy don't need a doctor, just a good honest job.
Society's played him a terrible trick,
And sociologic'ly he's sick!

ACTION
I am sick!

ALL
We are sick, we are sick,
We are sick, sick, sick,
Like we're sociologically sick!

A-RAB: In my opinion, this child don't need to have his head shrunk at all. Juvenile delinquency is purely a social disease!

ACTION: Hey, I got a social disease!

A-RAB: So take him to a social worker!

ACTION
Dear kindly social worker,
They say go earn a buck.
Like be a soda jerker,
Which means like be a schumck.
It's not I'm anti-social,
I'm only anti-work.
Gloryosky! That's why I'm a jerk!

BABY JOHN: (As Female Social Worker)
Eek!
Officer Krupke, you've done it again.
This boy don't need a job, he needs a year in the pen.
It ain't just a question of misunderstood;
Deep down inside him, he's no good!

ACTION
I'm no good!

ALL
We're no good, we're no good!
We're no earthly good,
Like the best of us is no damn good!

DIESEL (As Judge)
The trouble is he's crazy.

A-RAB (As Psychiatrist)
The trouble is he drinks.

BABY JOHN (As Female Social Worker)
The trouble is he's lazy.

DIESEL
The trouble is he stinks.

A-RAB
The trouble is he's growing.

BABY JOHN
The trouble is he's grown.

ALL
Krupke, we got troubles of our own!

Gee, Officer Krupke,
We're down on our knees,
'Cause no one wants a fellow with a social disease.
Gee, Officer Krupke,
What are we to do?
Gee, Officer Krupke,
Krup you!

Music by Leonard Bernstein, lyrics by Stephen Sondheim.
© 1956, 1957 Amberson Holdings LLC and Stephen Sondheim. Copyright renewed.
Leonard Bernstein Music Publishing Company LLC, Publisher.
>
Source:
http://www.westsidestory.com/lyrics_krupke.php


The Daily Express published on October 5th 2015:
>
EXCLUSIVE: Michael Parr hints that Ross Barton will leave Emmerdale with Debbie Dingle

EMMERDALE actor Michael Parr has hinted that his bad boy character Ross Barton might exit the show with former lover Debbie Dingle (Charley Webb).

By Sarah Buchanan & Adam Miller

PUBLISHED: 21:25, Mon, Oct 5, 2015
UPDATED: 10:27, Tue, Oct 6, 2015

Soap fans will know that Debbie enjoyed a steamy sordid affair with her husband Pete's (Anthony Quinlan) brother Ross.

But now 29-year-old Michael has suggested that the pair could ride off into the sunset together.

Ross and Debbie's exit would coincide with 27-year-old actress Charley's maternity leave, as she is preparing to welcome her second child with fellow soap star Matthew Wolfenden in December.

Speaking exclusively to Express.co.uk at tonight's Inside Soap Awards 2015, Michael said: "Well, Charley's got a bun in the oven so she’s got to leave the show at some point and I might be leaving with her."

The Emmerdale heartthrob was cagey about admitting whether he had signed up for another year in the Yorkshire Dales.

"I can't say whether I've got a new contract or not," he said.

Speaking about how he kept his character's "back from the dead" storyline under wraps, Michael said he had to wear a disguise to make sure eagle-eyed fans wouldn't rumble him.

"I'm a sociopath," Michael said. "I was sneaking out of work and there's two fans who are obsessed with the show and they're always outside.

"So I'd have to go in, get dressed into my normal clothes then put on a coat and a hood and it was boiling. I was sweating all the way home."

Meanwhile, later this month fans are set to find out who shot Robert Sugden in a special flashback episode.

Lots of viewers think that Ross could have pulled the trigger, and Michael admitted he thinks his alter-ego is capable of murder.

"Yeah definitely, I think he's probably got a bit of the killer instinct in him," he said, before adding: "But what motivation does have shooting Robert?"

"I think it was Edna Birch (Shirley Stelfox) personally," Michael joked.

"She's a bit of a thug, she’s got that crazy dog and you’ve seen the way she dresses in those bad**s clothes and she sells drugs."

But is there any change of Ross reforming his villainous ways?

"I hope not," confessed Michael. "Because I like driving the cars and chasing the girls. I've got the perfect job at the moment so I wouldn't want it to change."
>
Source:
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/610075/Emmerdale-Michael-Parr-hints-Ross-Barton-leave-Emmerdale-Debbie-Dingle

[Telly Watcher]

Ross's CV is coming along very nicely for his next job after Emmerdale, I see. I'm sure I spotted new additions to 'Previous Experience' from recent filming for episodes in this coming/following week alone? Ross, you're going to burn out quick. You really need to slow down the work rate, believe me!

CV: Ross "Mad Puppy" Barton

New Previous Experience

Pub Chaos Organiser
Scrap Dealer
Baseball Player
Mr Muscle Strongman Circus Act Performer
Viaduct Works Technician
Aerial Display Team Member and Organiser
Assisted Suicide Negotiator
Pantomime Clown
Bare-knuckle Bar Disagreement Decider
Fight Organiser
Marriage Counsellor
Divorce Counsellor
Baby Sitter
General 'Odd' Job Man

New Specific Skills

Capable of rising from the dead at short notice a speciality
Able to fully fulfill entrance requirements for Bremmerdalemoor maximum security hospital facility by Christmas lunchtime 2015

Things are definitely building up for us all to be very happy for a Ross exit real soon.

Take my personal advice, Debbie. RUN!

Rossdale airs these scenes on weekdays from Monday 26th October from 7pm on ITV

[rossfan]

Over the weekend Michael Parr posted a video on his Instagram featuring Joe Gill. It looks like a dressing room so he must still be found filming. Charlie Webb is still filming too.

[Kim]

Over the weekend Michael Parr posted a video on his Instagram featuring Joe Gill. It looks like a dressing room so he must still be found filming. Charlie Webb is still filming too.

Charley must finish filming in the next few weeks. Usually the actress gives birth at around the time that the character disappears off screen; they film about 2 months in advance. She's due in December.

[JessicaMad]

Do you think Debs will take Moses with her when she leaves? When is Charity due back? I don't see her leaving Moses with Ross (that is if he doesn't go with her).

[Kim]

Do you think Debs will take Moses with her when she leaves? When is Charity due back? I don't see her leaving Moses with Ross (that is if he doesn't go with her).

I think she'll want Charity to step up and take responsibility if she's back by then, but I'm not sure when that will be.

[JessicaMad]

I think she's due to return this winter as it was in a winter preview a couple of months/weeks ago but it was very brief. This is from Metro UK:

The return of Charity

Charity is heading back – and let’s not forget what she said to Cain before she was sent down for a stretch inside. Cain and Moira are both fully aware that Charity will want her claws into her man – and they are ready for it so viewers can expect some fireworks.
Another person who will be affected by Charity’s comeback is Ross, who is now starting to bond with baby Moses. But how will they react to each other when they come face to face? And if Cain is off the table, who else could Charity set her eyes on?


Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/06/emmerdale-spoilers-returns-shock-exits-and-secrets-revealed-in-huge-winter-storylines-5424975/#ixzz3pcucBta7

[lizann]

i wanna see ross and debbie give a relationship a go, him mix with dingles like zak and cain prove his love for debbie win them over, bond more with moses and sarah and jack

i think robert will be told ross is his shooter maybe by pete or james, ive a feeling james and emma will discover ross is the real shooter but will they get aaron out

[rossfan]

I tell you what Kate and Michael are geniuses. They expected all of this reaction:

He laughed: "I am going to have all the 'Robron' fans going, 'I can't believe you have done this!' Then I will have all the Ross fans that go, 'Yeah, it's Ross on screen!'

"I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a675089/emmerdale-star-michael-parr-on-ross-reveal-i-thought-my-days-were-numbered.html#~pscSfofHAWt4Dk

[Serena Williams]

I think parr is overexposed his character Ross is unlikeable. It was stupid for the show to make him shoot Robert too predictable. Also it makes no sense for Ross to be the shooter he has no connection to Robert. By overexposure Parr the audience will turn on him he is not and should not be in this storyline.

[LauBuch]

I think parr is overexposed his character Ross is unlikeable. It was stupid for the show to make him shoot Robert too predictable. Also it makes no sense for Ross to be the shooter he has no connection to Robert. By overexposure Parr the audience will turn on him he is not and should not be in this storyline.

Totally agree, he's a brilliant actor, don't get me wrong on that, but he's totally overused. And in regards to him and Debbie, it annoys me so much, along with his "my life is so hard and it's all Pete's fault, not down to the bad decisions I made" act.
Pete messed up when he attacked Ross, but with everything Ross has done that everyone knows about, why can Debbie just forget about all of that and forgive him but not even have the stomach to look at Pete?
Even Cain dislikes him and with everything Cain has done, thats saying something!

[rossfan]

I think parr is overexposed his character Ross is unlikeable. It was stupid for the show to make him shoot Robert too predictable. Also it makes no sense for Ross to be the shooter he has no connection to Robert. By overexposure Parr the audience will turn on him he is not and should not be in this storyline.

I agree that I would have liked someone in connection with Robert to be the shooter but that's not what they've done with the storyline. They've done a "Strangers on a train" take where the plot line is actually really clever because the alibi's are solid. Or should be if it wasn't for Andy.

[rossfan]

I think parr is overexposed his character Ross is unlikeable. It was stupid for the show to make him shoot Robert too predictable. Also it makes no sense for Ross to be the shooter he has no connection to Robert. By overexposure Parr the audience will turn on him he is not and should not be in this storyline.

I agree that I would have liked someone in connection with Robert to be the shooter but that's not what they've done with the storyline. They've done a "Strangers on a train" take where the plot line is actually really clever because the alibi's are solid. Or should be if it wasn't for Andy.

[maidmarian]

I agree that I would have liked someone in connection with Robert to be the shooter but that's not what they've done with the storyline. They've done a "Strangers on a train" take where the plot line is actually really clever because the alibi's are solid. Or should be if it wasn't for Andy.

Andys always been brawn not brain!.
Perhaps thats why they involved Ross
in such a storyline as " strangers on train"
scenario.

Most of the other characters would
have better knowledge of Andys capabilities.
and be wary of having him.as an accomplice.
I presume Andy is involved because its his turn
for a storyline.
Ross is a newer character who disappears at
intervals so wouldnt know so much about
Andy.

The other more mundane reason for involving
Ross(apart from his popularity) may be
that he has quite a lot of episodes still to
fulfil on current contract?!

[Telly Watcher]

Soap Squawk's latest interview today from Michael Parr, 29, suggests Ross only really wants Debbie and doesn't really want the kids in tow and "slowing them down".
>
He told SoapSquawk: “Ross wants to do good and he has got the affection for the kids and they relate to each other, but the practicality, now he has what he wants he is like ‘Is this it? Nappies?’

“He is not built that way so I can’t see it going too well. He just wants to be with Debbie and that’s it.

“He is very smitten with Debbie, but the kids are a bit of a burden, he is young and immature and he wants to be out all the time with her, but the kids are kind of slowing them down and getting in the way of their relationship.”
>
Emmerdale’s Michael Parr: Ross is left holding the baby!
27/10/15
http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/news/emmerdales-michael-parr-ross-is-left-holding-the-baby.php

[JessicaMad]

I honestly don't know if I feel sorry for Ross or not. He was going on about how James neglected him, quite hypocritical considering he's only using his own son to get into Debbie's good books.

[maidmarian]

I honestly don't know if I feel sorry for Ross or not. He was going on about how James neglected him, quite hypocritical considering he's only using his own son to get into Debbie's good books.

It is hypocritical but people copy their parents
in some cases.- because they think the behavior
is acceptable. E.g. the abused become abusers.

I think if I was to feel sorry for Ross -it would
be because had the parents he did - as a child!

[Serena Williams]

Michael parr is annoying and so are the writers.

[mariba]

I must say I don't like Ross as a character as much as I used to. That was before he got obsessed with Debbie.
Debbie and Pete should have stayed together-I don't understand Debbie at all. By her age and with her experieces you would have thought that she's learned something. Debbie has also come out as a victim in all this. As if she's never done anything wrong or bad..She was quite a bitch still few years ago. It was totally out of order for her to compare Pete to Cameron, but obviously sheused that just as an excuse to get rid of Pete.
Hopefully they'll make Pete really happy with someone(Vanessa? they would be great), Debbie's relationship with Ross is doomed to fail-I wouldn't trust him around my kids, but I would trust Pete. That tells something.

If Ross is not changing-I actually hope he goes. Wouldn't miss Debbie either.

[mariba]

I must say I don't like Ross as a character as much as I used to. That was before he got obsessed with Debbie.
Debbie and Pete should have stayed together-I don't understand Debbie at all. By her age and with her experieces you would have thought that she's learned something. Debbie has also come out as a victim in all this. As if she's never done anything wrong or bad..She was quite a bitch still few years ago. It was totally out of order for her to compare Pete to Cameron, but obviously sheused that just as an excuse to get rid of Pete.
Hopefully they'll make Pete really happy with someone(Vanessa? they would be great), Debbie's relationship with Ross is doomed to fail-I wouldn't trust him around my kids, but I would trust Pete. That tells something.

If Ross is not changing-I actually hope he goes. Wouldn't miss Debbie either.

[maidmarian]

I must say I don't like Ross as a character as much as I used to. That was before he got obsessed with Debbie.
Debbie and Pete should have stayed together-I don't understand Debbie at all. By her age and with her experieces you would have thought that she's learned something. Debbie has also come out as a victim in all this. As if she's never done anything wrong or bad..She was quite a bitch still few years ago. It was totally out of order for her to compare Pete to Cameron, but obviously sheused that just as an excuse to get rid of Pete.
Hopefully they'll make Pete really happy with someone(Vanessa? they would be great), Debbie's relationship with Ross is doomed to fail-I wouldn't trust him around my kids, but I would trust Pete. That tells

If Ross is not changing-I actually hope he goes. Wouldn't miss Debbie either.

I agree with a lot of your comments.

Debbie hasnt really changed over the
years.
Neither Pete or Ross are fit to care for
children . Theyve had a terrible upbringing
and it shows.Some people overcome that-
others dont.

Ross is ok.as a bad boy - no worse than
others in ED or other soaps- just a lot
of actions close together.
But hes fickle and irresponsible and not
really interested- has softer moments but
children need more consistency than that.

Pete is seriously unstable and to me very
creepy/oily.. I.think in real life -he would ring
alarm bells!!
The most sensible thing Debbie has done
is bin him.Sometimes people do the right
thing for the wrong reason!

I do find it quite concerning than in all
soaps - when they want to rehabilitate
a character- they make them " nice"
to children for a short spell.
It sets a pattern of what's acceptable
and it isnt really.Children deserve better
than.that.!

[Telly Watcher]

I agree with a lot of your comments.

Debbie hasnt really changed over the years. Neither Pete or Ross are fit to care for children . Theyve had a terrible upbringing and it shows.Some people overcome that-others dont.

Ross is ok.as a bad boy - no worse than others in ED or other soaps- just a lot of actions close together. But hes fickle and irresponsible and not really interested- has softer moments but children need more consistency than that.

Pete is seriously unstable and to me very creepy/oily.. I.think in real life -he would ring alarm bells!! The most sensible thing Debbie has done is bin him.Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reason!

I do find it quite concerning than in all soaps - when they want to rehabilitate a character- they make them \\"nice\\" to children for a short spell. It sets a pattern of what's acceptable and it isnt really.Children deserve better than.that.!

I found the Thursday October 29th episode to be very telling when Sarah (10yo) reacted badly to finding out that Ross had moved in. I watched her act up and thought ("She doesn't like him. I don't either since he died!"). Even Jack (3yo) tried a Harry Potter wand spell to magic Ross away. It didn't work (worse luck!) but I'd award five nursery wizard's school stars to Jack trying hard at this at 3yo before Hogwarts enrolment is due.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSuyoFJWsAAIIlT.jpg
© ITV
Sarah tells Jack it's time to go to somewhere safe upstairs and far away from He who must not be named...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSuyn9RWwAAGRRC.jpg
© ITV
Junior wizard Jack needs more practice to make Ross disappear and make everyone very happy...

Children of Sarah and Jack's ages can be very "knowing" about people. They naturally stare at people, I think it's some sort of young animal instinct most or all children have up to a certain age. After then they learn from adults that it's rude and bad manners to stare at people. This is why children's reactions to other people can be so much better to judge these people by (particularly when they are strangers) than an adult's perception of them. Basically, what I think Sarah and Jack were being largely non-verbal about was that they found Ross uncomfortable to be around inside their family living space.

I suspect that this scene on October 29th with Sarah and Jack may be the subtle start of Debbie's exit storyline?

Sarah's reaction to Ross suddenly in her home last week was very unusual for Sarah about one of Debbie's boyfriends. Previous history for Sarah shows that she loved Cameron when Debbie met him in Jersey around 2010. Cameron later married Debbie, of course, but by then Debbie had already shown her bad relationship decision ability with previous boyfriends, not least of whom was ex-Andy. Debbie left Emmerdale in her last scene on Friday 12th March 2010, taking Sarah with her, and did not return to Emmerdale until November 2010, 8 months later. This, of course, tied in with the actor's maternity leave for Buster, Charley Webb's baby (born on 04/04/10). If this timing follows through for Charley Webb's latest baby, due round December 2015, then even at a birthdate of 31/12/15, we should have expected Charley Webb to have completed Emmerdale filming 2 weeks ago already, so that Debbie's last TV scenes should be aired at latest by 26th November 2015? Sarah also loves Pete, who Debbie married in August 2015. So for Sarah to not want new boyfriend Ross in the family house during October 2015 is extremely unusual for her and indicates that Ross will never marry Debbie?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSuynx4WIAA9c_v.jpg
© ITV
Debbie wonders if it was such a good idea...
to ask Ross to move in the day before...

For whatever reason(s) that Debbie leaves Emmerdale (and let's be honest, I guess that it's going to be for somewhere between 6-12 months maternity leave, assuming Debbie returns to Emmerdale), I suspect that Andy or Cain or both will blame scally Ross for making Debbie leave the village and to want him out of it by one violent or non-violent way or another?

I really think that Ross is in a terrible TV viewer position right now. His recent Emmerdale storylines have been just awful, I reckon. The UK public and many former fans (me too!) have switched to hating him and there really doesn't seem to be any way back for now. Ross has simply become a horrible single wanting chavvy scal character who is just too toxic for Emmerdale and its residents, at least up to Tuesday October 24th 2015, even beyond.

After last Tuesday's viaduct scene with Pete ended, Ross has since toned things down a lot for now. He has what he thought he wanted by getting Debbie back, and even moved in with her, but I don't think this is a stable situation at all. I wrote here in another thread earlier (28/10/15) about how Ross is "like a child who wants to want". Well he may now find that Debbie and her own kids are not what he wants or what will make him happy but that he will deny it to himself in delusion?

On Tuesday (3/11/15) in the pub, Nikhil blames Debbie for Gennie's death. Ross overhears and punches Nikhil on impulse. Duncan Lindsay in the Metro (30/10/15) wrote "Debbie is less than impressed with his outburst." I think that this scene will add to Debbie's growing doubts that Ross is going to be suitable for her and her kids. A gap between Debbie and Ross may now start to grow and set up Ross to becoming more possessive and potentially threatening towards Debbie and her kids in a while, in a cycle of affection and rejection?

Mike Parr gave a recent interview about his recent villainy with Pete and Robert, etc, and said about viewers' reactions "I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again. There was a point where I thought, 'It doesn't matter what I do at the minute, everybody seems to just be cheering for Ross'. Hopefully this will push them away and remind people I am meant to be a villain, so maybe I was doing my job wrong before!"

I totally disagree with these actor comments. He was doing the job totally right for myself and many others before Pete fought with him outside Hotton Hospital, as the very unhappy reactions of his fans proved when Ross "died" then in August 2015. The storylines since then have not done Ross any favours and it really looks to me as if Ross has now already jumped off a cliff but doesn't realise this or that the only way is down. We know from spoilers and film set leaks that Ross is around for some time yet, but there is going to be a new Series Producer from January 2016 in Iain MacLeod. Will he pick up on the latest very negative feelings of viewers towards the Ross character and change everything for Ross's future or just dump him as a complete soap show liability in due course? Time will tell on this. On a more positive note, it looks for now like we're all really going to be getting a kipper for tea in a while or so... So long and farewell, Ross, hopefully real soon. (And good riddance!).

Sources:

Sarah Sugden biography at:
http://emmerdale.wikia.com/wiki/Sarah_Sugden_Jr.

Jack Sugden biography at:
http://emmerdale.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Sugden_Jr.

Debbie Dingle biography at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Dingle

Emmerdale 29th October 2015 Full Episode HD video at:
www.dailymotion.com/video/x3biuv3_emmerdale-29th-october-2015-full-episode-hd_tv

How "Ross is like a child who wants to want", soapboards post on 28/10/15 at:
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?137897-Emmerdale-Spoilers-9th-13th-November-2015&p=833976#post833976

Metro Emmerdale spoilers for 2-6/11/15 (published 30/10/15) at:
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/30/25-soap-spoilers-emmerdale-violent-clash-eastenders-murder-plot-and-hollyoaks-baby-tragedy-5467389/

Mike Parr interview for Digital Spy (published 22/10/15) at:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a675089/emmerdale-star-michael-parr-on-ross-reveal-i-thought-my-days-were-numbered.html

[Dalesfan]

I don't really agree with your post. And it wouldn't be good riddance for me.

Yes Ross Isn't being nice right now and doesn't think before lashing out. The storylines aren't doing him any favours just now but that doesn't mean to say it won't change in a few weeks. And even still I don't think the backlash as is big as what is being made out either. Either way people are talking a lot about Ross and that is the point. We still get little moments with Ross and that was proved last week. He did apologise to Pete. I don't think he is rubbing it in his face about Debbie this time. I genuinely believe he didn't think they were going to be back together. He was nice with his scenes with April. He tried to make things easier for Pete with the Police. He is trying to sort his life out now and put things behind him. Like what has been said in other posts. Other characters have done bad stuff and are still on the show. Bad spells shouldn't mean the axe just because you don't like them. The producer may decide he doesn't like him and that would be his choice. But Mike has won awards and gets nominated for awards and recent big events has seen his character trending. Summer fate and Who shot Robert. And not to mention the petition. He has a big following. I don't think it would be fair for a producer to come in and axe him just because of a few negative comments. I think the positives outway the negatives on this issue. Characters like Jai and Emma get way more negative comments

[rossfan]

I don't really agree with your post. And it wouldn't be good riddance for me.

Yes Ross Isn't being nice right now and doesn't think before lashing out. The storylines aren't doing him any favours just now but that doesn't mean to say it won't change in a few weeks. And even still I don't think the backlash as is big as what is being made out either. Either way people are talking a lot about Ross and that is the point. We still get little moments with Ross and that was proved last week. He did apologise to Pete. I don't think he is rubbing it in his face about Debbie this time. I genuinely believe he didn't think they were going to be back together. He was nice with his scenes with April. He tried to make things easier for Pete with the Police. He is trying to sort his life out now and put things behind him. Like what has been said in other posts. Other characters have done bad stuff and are still on the show. Bad spells shouldn't mean the axe just because you don't like them. The producer may decide he doesn't like him and that would be his choice. But Mike has won awards and gets nominated for awards and recent big events has seen his character trending. Summer fate and Who shot Robert. And not to mention the petition. He has a big following. I don't think it would be fair for a producer to come in and axe him just because of a few negative comments. I think the positives outway the negatives on this issue. Characters like Jai and Emma get way more negative comments

I agree. As i posted earlier in the thread. Michael and Kate Oakes knew that there was going to be a reaction from Ross' recent storylines.


In an a interview Michael says this:


He laughed: "I am going to have all the 'Robron' fans going, 'I can't believe you have done this!' Then I will have all the Ross fans that go, 'Yeah, it's Ross on screen!'

"I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a675089/emmerdale-star-michael-parr-on-ross-reveal-i-thought-my-days-were-numbered.html#~pscSfofHAWt4Dk

[rossfan]

I don't really agree with your post. And it wouldn't be good riddance for me.

Yes Ross Isn't being nice right now and doesn't think before lashing out. The storylines aren't doing him any favours just now but that doesn't mean to say it won't change in a few weeks. And even still I don't think the backlash as is big as what is being made out either. Either way people are talking a lot about Ross and that is the point. We still get little moments with Ross and that was proved last week. He did apologise to Pete. I don't think he is rubbing it in his face about Debbie this time. I genuinely believe he didn't think they were going to be back together. He was nice with his scenes with April. He tried to make things easier for Pete with the Police. He is trying to sort his life out now and put things behind him. Like what has been said in other posts. Other characters have done bad stuff and are still on the show. Bad spells shouldn't mean the axe just because you don't like them. The producer may decide he doesn't like him and that would be his choice. But Mike has won awards and gets nominated for awards and recent big events has seen his character trending. Summer fate and Who shot Robert. And not to mention the petition. He has a big following. I don't think it would be fair for a producer to come in and axe him just because of a few negative comments. I think the positives outway the negatives on this issue. Characters like Jai and Emma get way more negative comments

I agree. As i posted earlier in the thread. Michael and Kate Oakes knew that there was going to be a reaction from Ross' recent storylines.


In an a interview Michael says this:


He laughed: "I am going to have all the 'Robron' fans going, 'I can't believe you have done this!' Then I will have all the Ross fans that go, 'Yeah, it's Ross on screen!'

"I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a675089/emmerdale-star-michael-parr-on-ross-reveal-i-thought-my-days-were-numbered.html#~pscSfofHAWt4Dk

[Dalesfan]

sorry dup!

[Dalesfan]

I agree. As i posted earlier in the thread. Michael and Kate Oakes knew that there was going to be a reaction from Ross' recent storylines.


In an a interview Michael says this:


He laughed: \\"I am going to have all the 'Robron' fans going, 'I can't believe you have done this!' Then I will have all the Ross fans that go, 'Yeah, it's Ross on screen!'

\\"I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a675089/emmerdale-star-michael-parr-on-ross-reveal-i-thought-my-days-were-numbered.html#~pscSfofHAWt4Dk

And they are right because it seems it is a lot of Robron fans that are doing the complaining. From what I have seen anyway. Not talking about on here but elsewhere.

Rightly so maybe but it's not like Aaron and Robert are little angels :D

[maidmarian]

And they are right because it seems it is a lot of Robron fans that are doing the complaining. From what I have seen anyway. Not talking about on here but elsewhere.

Rightly so maybe but it's not like Aaron and Robert are little angels :D

That is correct -and theres quite a few others
on ED who have been as bad/worse over the
years!!

[binky321]

I don't think anyone believes Robron are angel's or completely innocent to be fair perhaps some of us are feeling protective & Aaron being in prison is just about more upsetting than what happened to Robert! I feel some of the frustration is that Ross has hijacked their story line for the moment plus frustration is there due to the lack of screen time for Robron in recent months and Ross is taking the brunt of that due to being involved is so many of the big plots this year & Robron fans (which I am one) really wanted this shooting to be about Robert, - his comeuppance. It's softened the blow a bit that Andy was involved too that brings it back to their feud, I just feel there was no need for it to be all about Ross this time.

I feel Ross does work well as a villain type character, I'd rather he was an out and out villain then someone who hides is true self under a mask of false victim hood. I don't necessarily want him to leave, he just doesn't work as a domesticated type in homely bliss with Debbie with whom it just doesn't seem he has screen chemistry with, I could see him getting bored with her and felt he manly wanted her manly due to Pete having her, like wanting to break his brothers favourite toy or something due to petty jealously & insecurity. The reality could be difficult for him, being responsible doing school runs, baby sitting etc. If Ross were to lose interest in her Debbie & her kids could be in danger from him with his antics and given Debbie's history she should have learned to have better judgement by now.

[Dalesfan]

It's more the double standards I have seen. That when Aaron gets out then him, Robert and Cain should all join forces to get rid off Ross etc. Those fans are happy for that to happen but when it's against Robron then all hell breaks lose. And again they are happy for Robert to go unpunished for what he has done but Ross must be punished for what he done.

I get that they are annoyed with the storyline. Trust me I am just as annoyed that Ross was made the shooter. There was no need for it. The problem some Robron fans is that some are so focussed on them becoming an item and living happy ever after that they are going to be disappointed whatever happens. They want them to be on screen together all the time. I get that when you ship something then that's what you want but you have to look at the bigger picture. And that brings me to your next point. I would love to see Ross act like the family man and live happy ever after with someone he loves etc but I know deep down it is never going to happen. Ross obviously has deep issues and I don't think it's fair to say that it's all false. It can't be easy knowing that your mum tried to kill you when young. It's going to affect you. He may not be wired to do the whole family thing. But surely he is allowed the chance. Just because he has issues doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to have a chance to settle down. Only he can mess it up. I do think he does care about Debbie and it isn't just because she had Pete. But they haven't really had the long term thing and that is when it will be tested. The whole kids thing aswell wont be easy for him. Charley going on Maternity means it probably wont end well but Robron fans know Aaron is going to get out eventually. Probably sooner rather than later And I bet you Aaron, Ross and Robert will all have stuff in the future and the who shot Robert thing will be swept under the carpet

[LauBuch]

What mostly annoys me about Ross and Debbie is the contradiction...
Debbie left Pete because he thought he killed Ross and it made her think he was just like Cameron. Ok, fair enough.
However, with everything Ross has done since being in Emmerdale and Debbie knowing about how Ross premeditated his attempts at killing Pete, I don't get how she can justify having him move in?
I know she was always more attracted to Ross than Pete, but she needs to sort out how she judges people. Ross is bloody attractive, but would I have someone like that around my kids if I had any? No way

[tammyy2j]

What mostly annoys me about Ross and Debbie is the contradiction...
Debbie left Pete because he thought he killed Ross and it made her think he was just like Cameron. Ok, fair enough.
However, with everything Ross has done since being in Emmerdale and Debbie knowing about how Ross premeditated his attempts at killing Pete, I don't get how she can justify having him move in?
I know she was always more attracted to Ross than Pete, but she needs to sort out how she judges people. Ross is bloody attractive, but would I have someone like that around my kids if I had any? No way

Debbie wanted any excuse to get rid of Pete and him confessing about Ross was her opportunity instead she should have been honest and not married Pete

Ross isn't someone I see in a long term relationship with kids, he will get bored

[Telly Watcher]

Ross, Pete and Andy do not have any clear future in Emmerdale right now. Pete and Andy could end up in jail, as could Ross, but Ross seems to be the outsider again here. Ross presently does not seem to have any paid job, other than maybe sick pay from Debbie's garage business, and is presently living rent-free(?) at Debbie's house at Mulberry Cottage. But what happens to Ross when Debbie leaves Emmerdale, as we know she is going to do around December 2015? Ross seems to have no friends in Emmerdale right now and this is before the news (so future spoilers say) that other viillagers find out that Andy was involved in Robert's shooting and maybe that Ross was the actual shooter? Let's face it, Emmerdale is such a close cul-de-sac community that nothing usually remains secret for very long and so, on this basis, Ross must "face-the-music" for his actions in due course, hopefully sooner rather than later!

I really do see a disastrous future for "present" Ross in Emmerdale village.

1) Ross is now a complete outsider. He has no friends, stable job or income or real future there.
2) His personality is completely unsuitable to be a "family man". Debbie's kids hate him for a start and Ross is so totally rootless and immature for now.
3) What Ross really seems to want is for Debbie to be his "gangster's moll" without any responsibilities but Debbie is no longer of such a young age to be this, now has kids to care for and is far more emotionally mature than Ross, so Debbie and Ross are, I reckon, completely mis-matched at this time of their lives.
4) I think that Ross's latest actions (shooting Robert and trying twice to murder Pete over about the last two months) are going to soon catch up with him in the very near future. Spoiler photos show that Cain gets "up close and personal" soon, either before or after Debbie leaves Emmerdale (in December 2015). Surely Debbie's close family are going to want revenge then on anyone deemed to have caused Debbie to leave? I really do think that there is shortly going to be an uprising of alpha-male types for a village posse in Emmerdale (maybe made up of Cain/Andy/Aaron/Paddy/David/others) to "sort" Ross out, once and for all. Ironically, maybe Pete stays out of this though as the forgiving and good guy brother? Maybe this just means that Ross "reforms" and stays in Emmerdale, or that he leaves Emmerdale to live somewhere else, or that he ends up in Emmerdale graveyard?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS5UQFVWUAAMntV.jpg
© ITV
Cain gets up close and personal with Ross real soon

Yesterday's Monday Emmerdale episode showed Ross being left alone to "hold the baby" (Moses) after Pete leaves the village for a while. (Question: Has Charity told the truth that Ross is the father of Moses?) This baby-sittiing role is not really the life that Ross wants, I reckon, and that reality will set in very soon for him that this is all Debbie has to offer for him in Emmerdale long-term. In fact, yesterday's episode for him was just Emmerdullsville ZZZzzz... But just what else does Ross expect from Debbie right now? Ross is going to want again, I have no doubts about that. As I wrote above, Debbie has moved on emotionally and Ross has simply fallen behind and wants a nostalgic energetic fast life which is long gone and was available once when Debbie was a "wild child". Tonight's Tuesday Emmerdale episode will show how Ross bursts into the pub, hears Nikhil telling off guilty Debbie for her being involved with Gennie's death, and how Ross punches Nikhil on impulse because Ross completely does not know what he is doing or what part Debbie played in bringing about Gennie's death. David steps in to pull Ross off Nikhil but now Nikhil is yet another Emmerdaler that Ross doesn't relate to.

I suspect that this pub scene between Ross and Nikhil and the spread of the "Andy setting Robert up to be shot" storyline amongst the villagers will lead to the formation of an eventual alpha-male Emmerdale village posse (made up of villagers such as Cain/Andy/Aaron/Adam/Pete/David/others) which will change Ross's life forever.

For now, Ross is a complete outsider in Emmerdale. His good looks no longer count for anything, and his past reactions and history since he returned to Emmerdale on Tuesday, 25th September after previously "dying" outside Hotten Hospital on 6th September have been totally OTT, done him no favours, been totally extreme and unnecessary and only been very damaging for his future in Emmerdale.

The change.org opinion poll about whether Ross should be returned to Emmerdale after "dying" raised less than 10,000 votes (actual vote count=9,147). However, this opinion poll was very seriously flawed:

1) One vote was allowed for each registered e-mail address, so this meant that the vote was open to abuse from any one person who used more than one personal email address;
2) There wasn't a "No" vote option. The opinion poll question was "Bring Back Ross Barton *Emmerdale*", so anyone who bothered to vote only had one choice, = "Yes"!

In the end, the total poll voter count was less than 10,000. As each Emmerdale episode is watched by about 5 million viewers (barb.co.uk, October 2015) then the poll was answered by up to 0.2% of single-voting Emmerdale viewers and the remaining 99.8%+ of Emmerdale viewers didn't take part. Maybe the poll wasn't well publicised? Maybe some viewers already knew that Michael Parr was still filming at Emmerdale studios when Ross was supposed to be dead, so this is why these viewers didn't bother voting as it was obvious that Ross wasn't dead? Maybe most viewers knew that it was a foregone conclusion either way, as the show is filmed about 6-8 weeks before being aired on TV and that any poll was pointless because the studio money was already spent by then and that storyline and filming of future episodes was already set in stone by the time that the poll was due to close? Or maybe most viewers didn't care about Ross and maybe wanted Ross dead and gone anyway? We will maybe never know clearly what the general Emmerdale viewing public thought at the time but one thing seems for sure and that is that Ross has been highly dislikeable since he returned to Emmerdale on Tuesday, 25th September, and that his good looks and appearance may not be enough to keep him in any future popularity competition?

We must all remember that Ross left us all in August 2015 under very different circumstances to how we see him now and when he won his recent Inside Soap awards in September 2015 for his previous Emmerdale acting work before the latest "darkest hours" for Ross on Emmerdale. Since Tuesday, 25th September, Ross has returned on TV to Emmerdale and been the root cause of the following storylines:

- Robert recovering in hospital from attempted murder by Ross and with Aaron in jail being blamed for it;
- Pete having survived two attempted murder scenes by Ross;
- Pete at the police station confessing to 'attempted murder' on Ross for his fight and apparent accident with Ross at the hospital;
- Andy and Robert about to be involved in a car crash soon because Robert finds out that Andy set up Robert's shooting (which Ross suggested to Andy as in 'Strangers on a Train');
- etc.

Is there any Emmerdale future for Ross right now? I am sure that the Emmerdale storyliners will tell us their answer to this question in a while real soon.

I do not see any future for the "present" Ross, so I reckon that either he changes soon to be a better guy or he is made to leave Emmerdale by the other villagers or through personal circumstances soon, one way or another.

Sources:

Bring Back Michael Parr AKA "Ross Barton" to Emmerdale at:
https://www.change.org/p/emmerdale-bring-back-ross-barton-emmerdale

Emmerdale's Michael Parr on shock return: 'Ross Barton will want revenge' at:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a665266/emmerdales-michael-parr-on-shock-return-ross-barton-will-want-revenge.html

Emmerdale and Michael Parr storm the Inside Soap Awards at:
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a672083/emmerdale-and-michael-parr-storm-the-inside-soap-awards/

[Dalesfan]

He is back at the garage so he will have a job. Nothing has probably changed since before he went away. They will probably have to juggle with Moses and will probably do different shifts. Not sure how you know he is living rent free. That's an assumption but just the way it's an assumption that he is paying rent. we haven't been told either way

Ross has always been an outsider so that hasn't changed.
His personality isn't suited but that doesn't mean he can't try. which he is doing. Just now
That picture with Cain wasn't an actual spoiler or anything. Not saying it isn't a clue but it wasn't an actual what's coming up. It looks like a picture from when he attacked him on the wedding day
There is no evidence that it is going to catch up with him. usually it does but you are forgetting that he said himself that he thought his days were numbered but Kate gave him a foresight. Which suggests that he will get away with it. Until he decides to leave or when they decide Ross time is up. Again not everyone gets what is coming to them anyway.

Who knows if she told the truth but what would she gain from lying. Also if he isn't that will be better for Ross so I wouldn't see the point. I think the who shot Robert thing will be swept under carpet and be forgotten. Lol at the alpha male Posse. Why would they team up. Trust me they all have a reason to run to Ross when they need something doing so I don't see that happening at all. They all have their own problems/issues and secrets

Not sure why the petition means anything now. It got the publicity for the show and that was the point. doesn't matter how many people want him to stay or not it's all about the PR for emmerdale. More people talk about Ross that most of the other characters

He is still filming. In fact him and Danny Miller were filming something so he hasn't left yet. Which means that we have a few more weeks of him. Then we will see what happens. I don't think he's going anywhere yet and wont leave with Debbie. we don't know how she is leaving yet so. doesn't have to be Ross that is the reason. I know it's highly unlikely but something else could happen. There is time to change. He has a quiet couple of weeks coming up and by then people will have forgot most what went on. Like I said previously stories change constantly so there is no reason he wont

[JessicaMad]

Michael Parr was away in America for 3 weeks not so long ago, as the post above said Ross has a quiet couple of weeks coming up, it looks like he'll only be getting a few background scenes. Rather than having Ross take a temporary exit for Mike's holiday, it looks like they'll just have him in the background, Mike probably filmed about 5 small scenes before he left that will air in the coming weeks. Mike has since returned from his holiday and it seems he is back working.

[maidmarian]

Thanks for info re petition!.Telly Watcher.

Ive always wondered what % of viewers
vote in polls held by tv mags etc for
Best Soap / Best actor / actress etc.
Ive never voted because you can only
vote for one of pre- seclected few!-

It might be rubbish - but there seems to
be a preconception that a higher % of
EE fans vote than say Corrie ones.

I did try to.find the info a couple of
times -but wasnt successful!
So a bit of mystery !!

[Telly Watcher]

He is back at the garage so he will have a job. Nothing has probably changed since before he went away. They will probably have to juggle with Moses and will probably do different shifts. Not sure how you know he is living rent free. That's an assumption but just the way it's an assumption that he is paying rent. we haven't been told either way

Ross has always been an outsider so that hasn't changed.
His personality isn't suited but that doesn't mean he can't try. which he is doing. Just now
That picture with Cain wasn't an actual spoiler or anything. Not saying it isn't a clue but it wasn't an actual what's coming up. It looks like a picture from when he attacked him on the wedding day
There is no evidence that it is going to catch up with him. usually it does but you are forgetting that he said himself that he thought his days were numbered but Kate gave him a foresight. Which suggests that he will get away with it. Until he decides to leave or when they decide Ross time is up. Again not everyone gets what is coming to them anyway.

Who knows if she told the truth but what would she gain from lying. Also if he isn't that will be better for Ross so I wouldn't see the point. I think the who shot Robert thing will be swept under carpet and be forgotten. Lol at the alpha male Posse. Why would they team up. Trust me they all have a reason to run to Ross when they need something doing so I don't see that happening at all. They all have their own problems/issues and secrets

Not sure why the petition means anything now. It got the publicity for the show and that was the point. doesn't matter how many people want him to stay or not it's all about the PR for emmerdale. More people talk about Ross that most of the other characters

He is still filming. In fact him and Danny Miller were filming something so he hasn't left yet. Which means that we have a few more weeks of him. Then we will see what happens. I don't think he's going anywhere yet and wont leave with Debbie. we don't know how she is leaving yet so. doesn't have to be Ross that is the reason. I know it's highly unlikely but something else could happen. There is time to change. He has a quiet couple of weeks coming up and by then people will have forgot most what went on. Like I said previously stories change constantly so there is no reason he wont

Yes, Ross was shown with Debbie at the garage in the latest episode (Tuesday 3rd), delivering a blue Maserti car to a customer, so we know that he is now back in paid work again from then. Ross did go away for 3 weeks after Robert got shot on September 25th, when he was living in the Barton's house. Since returning from Magaluf, he has moved in with Debbie after she asked him to on Oct 29th. As Debbie is his employer and she asked him to move in, I thought it a reasonable assumption that she wouldn't necessarily ask him to pay rent there for now as she is paying him to work for her and making his stay rent-free would be another incentive for him to move in. My assumption, I agree.

Yes, you were right about the Cain photograph. This was shown on the Emmerdale Twitter website on November 1st and the text suggested more of this is going to come from Cain to Ross in upcoming scenes. I think any new photo will be embargoed at present but the photo shown on the @emmerdale twitter site is for illustrative purposes for now. The photo itself isn't from the new scenes, as you suggested. I've seen this shown in the Summer Fate Week episode shown 4th August when Cain offers Ross the fake passport but then Cain kidnaps Ross instead and leaves him tied up in the back of his van at the edge of the quarry before Cain gets back to the wedding ceremony.

I think the village posse is a real possibility, Cain is much more of a leader, older, more experienced in life and more of a "hardman" than Ross, and Cain definitely has an axe to grind with Ross and motive of getting Ross out of the way if it means that Debbie stays around and is happy and her kids are safe. Cain kidnapped Ross in August just before Pete and Debbie's wedding as he knew Ross would try to wreck it. Unfortunately, the kidnapping came too late as Ross had already sabotaged the reception disco music to play out his mobile phone recording of Debbie reminding Ross of the places where they'd had sex together previously.

As you say, there are photos around now of Aaron, Robert and Ross being filmed during scenes which will be shown around December, so all three of these characters are still working for Emmerdale right now and will be on TV during December.

Source:
Twitter: @emmerdale
https://mobile.twitter.com/emmerdale

[JessicaMad]

It looks like Debbie leaves around the time of Charity's return. Anyone else get the feeling Charity and Ross will do something "naughty"? The thought of it makes me feel sick.

[rossfan]

what was up with Debbie's attitude about Ross in Friday's episode!

Not happy about that!

[rossfan]

what was up with Debbie's attitude about Ross in Friday's episode!

Not happy about that!

[Perdita]

what was up with Debbie's attitude about Ross in Friday's episode!

Not happy about that!

He got involved in her business where it was not wanted nor needed

[maidmarian]

He got involved in her business where it was not wanted nor needed

Also.perhaps the beginning of splitting
them for actress's maternity leave!?

[kennedyfan86]

Also.perhaps the beginning of splitting
them for actress's maternity leave!?

Michael Parr suggested Ross will leave the village with Debbie

[kennedyfan86]

Also.perhaps the beginning of splitting
them for actress's maternity leave!?

Michael Parr suggested Ross will leave the village with Debbie when Charley Webb exits. They'll be filming that round about now, if not perhaps already have done, guess it depends if Debbie leaves the village before or after Christmas/New Year time

[alcapo11]

I don't get all the hate for Ross as people still love Robert despite his crimes. Here's a few things people seem to have forgot about: 1. He killed Katie (accidentally or not he still covered it up and lied to everyone to save himself) 2. He hired a hitman to kill his "lovers" mother just to hide the fact he's gay. 3. He is still partly to blame for the death of Max King. 4. Had an affair with his brothers girl (Not a crime but isn't that also why people hate Ross? Because he cheated with Debbie? 5. Small crimes adding upnsuch as duping Lawrence into paying off Connor and the fake robbery. 6. Oh yeah I nearly forgot that he shot Paddy, held Aaron at gunpoint and nearly buried paddy alive.

[JessicaMad]

Michael Parr suggested Ross will leave the village with Debbie

I think he was probably teasing us.

[Telly Watcher]

what was up with Debbie's attitude about Ross in Friday's episode!
Not happy about that!

I saw nothing really between Debbie and Ross in Friday's episode.

Numpty Andy showed up at Debbie's house to talk to Ross about how Andy didn't want Aaron to be "sent down" for Robert's shooting.

Debbie came down the stairs. Numpty Andy tried to cover him being in the house and told her how they needed to talk about Christmas. Debbie thought he was wierd, maybe drunk. Then Andy left.

Debbie asked Ross "What did he really want?". Ross just shrugged his shoulders.

Andy just gets dafter and dumber. Looks like both Ross and Andy are heading for Bremmerdalemoor maximum security hospital for being criminally and hopelessly numpty.

Emmerdale Video:
Emmerdale 6th November 2015, 22m 20s
www.dailymotion.com/video/x3crwsl_emmerdale-6th-november-2015_shortfilms

[Dalesfan]

what was up with Debbie's attitude about Ross in Friday's episode!

Not happy about that!

Yea she seemed annoyed. Probably more to do with Emma though and taking it out on Ross. The only thing he done wrong was punch Nikhill. Which was wrong but he was defending her and didn't know what was going on. To him it just looked like someone having a go. He was wrong but that's what Ross does. Thinks about it after he's done it. Friday was a bit odd. How Did Debbie know Ross was flat out when he was staying with his family and she was at home?


I don't get all the hate for Ross as people still love Robert despite his crimes. Here's a few things people seem to have forgot about: 1. He killed Katie (accidentally or not he still covered it up and lied to everyone to save himself) 2. He hired a hitman to kill his "lovers" mother just to hide the fact he's gay. 3. He is still partly to blame for the death of Max King. 4. Had an affair with his brothers girl (Not a crime but isn't that also why people hate Ross? Because he cheated with Debbie? 5. Small crimes adding upnsuch as duping Lawrence into paying off Connor and the fake robbery. 6. Oh yeah I nearly forgot that he shot Paddy, held Aaron at gunpoint and nearly buried paddy alive.

Yes the double standards are annoying but that's what happens. Funny thing is none of them are innocent. Ross, Aaron, Robert. They are all pretty similar and have all done bad things. People have a go at Ross for trying to kill Pete. Rightly so but then still have a go when he is trying to make peace. Same with him and Debbie. They don't like the going round in circles and when they finally get their act together it's still wrong :D They don't like Aaron being in prison which is understanding but it isn't all down to Ross. He was on a suspended sentence and had a gun in his possession. It isn't just about being a suspect for who shot Robert


I think he was probably teasing us.

Yes I think so

[lizann]

what was up with Debbie's attitude about Ross in Friday's episode!

Not happy about that!

did ross stay at his house to keep an eye on emma but pub was still trashed which all think is emma

[rossfan]

Yesterday, on twitter Charley Webb wrote "Reading my last scenes. Emotional".

To which Michael Parr, I assume jokingly replied "hurry up and do one. X".

From that I'm taking it that Michael is staying and that Ross won't be going with Debbie.

[rossfan]

Yesterday, on twitter Charley Webb wrote "Reading my last scenes. Emotional".

To which Michael Parr, I assume jokingly replied "hurry up and do one. X".

From that I'm taking it that Michael is staying and that Ross won't be going with Debbie.

[Telly Watcher]

Yesterday, on twitter Charley Webb wrote "Reading my last scenes. Emotional".
To which Michael Parr, I assume jokingly replied "hurry up and do one. X".
From that I'm taking it that Michael is staying and that Ross won't be going with Debbie.

I really hope you get the Christmas you want but I think you might be joining up random dots to make a picture you want to see here.

Sorry, but Mike Parr is not a trusted source for reliable Emmerdale spoilers. In fact, history shows that he has before said the opposite of what he means and what is really going to happen in the future.

I'd have more confidence believing that there's life on Mars than believing anything Mike Parr says. Let's face it, this is the actor who plays Ross Barton. I rest my case.

[Dalesfan]

i don't see how it's joining up random dots? There is nothing wrong with hoping and if the above poster believes that to be true what he wrote then that's up to them. Most reading his Twitter would think the same. I agree that he is a bit if a wind up and probably take everything with a pinch of salt but why would he talk about the new producer coming in If he wasn't going to be there? I don't think he will be going with her and if he does it won't before long

[JessicaMad]

I really hope you get the Christmas you want but I think you might be joining up random dots to make a picture you want to see here.

Sorry, but Mike Parr is not a trusted source for reliable Emmerdale spoilers. In fact, history shows that he has before said the opposite of what he means and what is really going to happen in the future.

I'd have more confidence believing that there's life on Mars than believing anything Mike Parr says. Let's face it, this is the actor who plays Ross Barton. I rest my case.

In that case you're just proving their point further. About a month ago Mike had an interview saying Ross may leave with Debbie. So yes, I'll take that with a pinch of salt and I don't think he is leaving yet.

[JessicaMad]

I really hope you get the Christmas you want but I think you might be joining up random dots to make a picture you want to see here.

Sorry, but Mike Parr is not a trusted source for reliable Emmerdale spoilers. In fact, history shows that he has before said the opposite of what he means and what is really going to happen in the future.

I'd have more confidence believing that there's life on Mars than believing anything Mike Parr says. Let's face it, this is the actor who plays Ross Barton. I rest my case.

In that case you're just proving their point further. About a month ago Mike had an interview saying Ross may leave with Debbie. So yes, I'll take that with a pinch of salt and I don't think he is leaving yet.

[kennedyfan86]

I really hope you get the Christmas you want but I think you might be joining up random dots to make a picture you want to see here.

Sorry, but Mike Parr is not a trusted source for reliable Emmerdale spoilers. In fact, history shows that he has before said the opposite of what he means and what is really going to happen in the future.

I'd have more confidence believing that there's life on Mars than believing anything Mike Parr says. Let's face it, this is the actor who plays Ross Barton. I rest my case.

Kate Oates said Mike's a cheeky chap, he made his own video for fans after Ross's "death", he likes to take the viewers for a ride when he completely embraces what he's given.
Maybe Ross stays for Moses on Debbie's say so when Charity gets back

[rossfan]

I really hope you get the Christmas you want but I think you might be joining up random dots to make a picture you want to see here.

Sorry, but Mike Parr is not a trusted source for reliable Emmerdale spoilers. In fact, history shows that he has before said the opposite of what he means and what is really going to happen in the future.

I'd have more confidence believing that there's life on Mars than believing anything Mike Parr says. Let's face it, this is the actor who plays Ross Barton. I rest my case.

What the hell. Why so rude ?

As some one said Mike Parr has said a lot lately including leaving with Charley. All I did was report what he did yesterday and what I belive it could mean.

Sorry if I offended you by posting that. :wall:

[alcapo11]

Kate Oates said Mike's a cheeky chap, he made his own video for fans after Ross's "death", he likes to take the viewers for a ride when he completely embraces what he's given.
Maybe Ross stays for Moses on Debbie's say so when Charity gets back

Surely he has to go with her, otherwise what was the point of this love triangle if Debbie doesn't end up with either Ross or Pete? I think people assume that if he leaves with Debbie that he will be leaving for good but that may not be the case. Since he is dividing opinion and has had alot of storylines a year out might be good for the character.

[alcapo11]

Kate Oates said Mike's a cheeky chap, he made his own video for fans after Ross's "death", he likes to take the viewers for a ride when he completely embraces what he's given.
Maybe Ross stays for Moses on Debbie's say so when Charity gets back

Surely he has to go with her, otherwise what was the point of this love triangle if Debbie doesn't end up with either Ross or Pete? I think people assume that if he leaves with Debbie that he will be leaving for good but that may not be the case. Since he is dividing opinion and has had alot of storylines a year out might be good for the character.

[sarah c]

Surely he has to go with her, otherwise what was the point of this love triangle if Debbie doesn't end up with either Ross or Pete? I think people assume that if he leaves with Debbie that he will be leaving for good but that may not be the case. Since he is dividing opinion and has had alot of storylines a year out might be good for the character.

but then again he could stay to look after Moses and the garage for Debbie?

Cain seems busy elsewhere at the moment, so someone Debbie trusts needs to hold the fort?

just a thought

[Telly Watcher]

I was very interested to read posts here made today about the future of Ross and Debbie on Emmerdale.

I think that Mike Parr's tweet (on 08/11/15) should really not be taken out of context. I do not think that this is a tweet particularly about Emmerdale, as he seems to have started to learn not to do this since his "return from the dead" in the October 22nd episode of Emmerdale. His latest personal tweet to Charley Webb about "hurry up and do one. X" is not, in any way, clear in meaning and seems to me in any case to say totally the reverse of what he really wants (i.e. he wants Charley Webb to stay with him in the workplace, or that he really means "hurry up and do one, and I will be joining you too as I have another job contract lined up").

What I meant when I wrote about "joining up random dots to make a picture you want to see here" was that it is very easy to want something to happen when you start to study something which you don't know the true outcome of. This is what real research and new study is all about. There may not be the outcome you really want waiting for you at the end because no-one has ever studied or done this before. True research and original study means collecting all of the evidence and information, rejecting all of the false leads, accepting all of the valid information, making sure everything fits the latest theory, not "adjusting" or ignoring obviously true information, and most importantly, being ready to ditch any theory when some clearly valid information doesn't fit. Eventually, following these ideals, you should get to the correct explanation for anything under study.

I posted here on soapboards previously about how Mike Parr's tweets could be seen as unclear and how they could be interpreted differently by addition of just some extra words from a sceptical and critical viewer.

See my soapboards post at: http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?137710-Emmerdale-Spoilers-24th-28th-August-2015&p=828721#post828721

We all know how Mike Parr mislead his fans and the general public (even outright lied to everyone) in August 2015 about how his Emmerdale character Ross Barton had "died". There really was never any need for this and the actor should really have known better at his age and experience and stayed silent as part of his professional and contractual duties to Emmerdale and the general acting profession until his character of Ross Barton returned to Emmerdale with a planned script on TV screens on 25th August. We will maybe never know for sure if any of Mike Parr's/Ross Barton's fans ever killed themselves over Mike Parr's misleading/lying behaviour during the time that Ross Barton was supposed to be "dead", but I for one am now definitely an ex-fan of Ross Barton and of the actor, who I consider to be someone who committed the worst possible, unforgiveable and unthinkable actor crime ever against his fans and the general public in my lifelong experience of watching films and TV programmes by publicly misleading/lying that his soap character was falsely dead. I do not ever see me changing my mind on this issue.

I, for one, would be delighted to have the most terrific Christmas present of Ross Barton disappearing from our TV screens on Emmerdale forever.

For now, my impression is that Ross and Debbie have already max-ed out as major Emmerdale characters and are really both very boring now and well overdue for a break from Emmerdale. I reckon that we all really need to move on from this burnt-out stuff and these two yesterday boring characters and that the really interesting storylines to be shown soon on Emmerdale are going to be about Chas, Aaron and Gordon and that we should all switch our main attention to them.

Check out my latest post about Chas, Aaron and Gordon where the really interesting and exciting action is going to be soon at:
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?137927-Gordon-Livesy-%28Gary-Mavers%29&p=835128#post835128

[JessicaMad]

I was very interested to read posts here made today about the future of Ross and Debbie on Emmerdale.

I think that Mike Parr's tweet (on 08/11/15) should really not be taken out of context. I do not think that this is a tweet particularly about Emmerdale, as he seems to have started to learn not to do this since his \\"return from the dead\\" in the October 22nd episode of Emmerdale. His latest personal tweet to Charley Webb about \\"hurry up and do one. X\\" is not, in any way, clear in meaning and seems to me in any case to say totally the reverse of what he really wants (i.e. he wants Charley Webb to stay with him in the workplace, or that he really means \\"hurry up and do one, and I will be joining you too as I have another job contract lined up\\").

What I meant when I wrote about \\"joining up random dots to make a picture you want to see here\\" was that it is very easy to want something to happen when you start to study something which you don't know the true outcome of. This is what real research and new study is all about. There may not be the outcome you really want waiting for you at the end because no-one has ever studied or done this before. True research and original study means collecting all of the evidence and information, rejecting all of the false leads, accepting all of the valid information, making sure everything fits the latest theory, not \\"adjusting\\" or ignoring obviously true information, and most importantly, being ready to ditch any theory when some clearly valid information doesn't fit. Eventually, following these ideals, you should get to the correct explanation for anything under study.

I posted here on soapboards previously about how Mike Parr's tweets could be seen as unclear and how they could be interpreted differently by addition of just some extra words from a sceptical and critical viewer.

See my soapboards post at: http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?137710-Emmerdale-Spoilers-24th-28th-August-2015&p=828721#post828721

We all know how Mike Parr mislead his fans and the general public (even outright lied to everyone) in August 2015 about how his Emmerdale character Ross Barton had \\"died\\". There really was never any need for this and the actor should really have known better at his age and experience and stayed silent as part of his professional and contractual duties to Emmerdale and the general acting profession until his character of Ross Barton returned to Emmerdale with a planned script on TV screens on 25th August. We will maybe never know for sure if any of Mike Parr's/Ross Barton's fans ever killed themselves over Mike Parr's misleading/lying behaviour during the time that Ross Barton was supposed to be \\"dead\\", but I for one am now definitely an ex-fan of Ross Barton and of the actor, who I consider to be someone who committed the worst possible, unforgiveable and unthinkable actor crime ever against his fans and the general public in my lifelong experience of watching films and TV programmes by publicly misleading/lying that his soap character was falsely dead. I do not ever see me changing my mind on this issue.

I, for one, would be delighted to have the most terrific Christmas present of Ross Barton disappearing from our TV screens on Emmerdale forever.

For now, my impression is that Ross and Debbie have already max-ed out as major Emmerdale characters and are really both very boring now and well overdue for a break from Emmerdale. I reckon that we all really need to move on from this burnt-out stuff and these two yesterday boring characters and that the really interesting storylines to be shown soon on Emmerdale are going to be about Chas, Aaron and Gordon and that we should all switch our main attention to them.

Check out my latest post about Chas, Aaron and Gordon where the really interesting and exciting action is going to be soon at:
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?137927-Gordon-Livesy-%28Gary-Mavers%29&p=835128#post835128

But some people still like those characters. Just because they are not at their best at the minute doesn't mean should be axed.

[binky321]

Great post Telly Watcher :)

The Chas, Aaron and Gordon storyline is really intriguing me and I'm looking forward to it, I am so ready for a break from all the Ross/Debbie drama, :D

I dislike the constant criminal element that Ross brings I don't necessarily want Ross axed, I know he's popular with many I've gone off him in recent months myself and I would like someone else to be at the fore front of things in the next few weeks & months. I would like Ross to face some sort of comeuppance though for shooting Robert not too mention all the other stuff he's done and he gets away with far too much sick & criminal acts.

I'm not sure Ross will leave with Debbie as I don't see him being written out for months like she will be... only a few weeks at the most, I don't see her leaving him holding the baby either but could imagine Emma trying to get custody or something like that causing a Dingle v Barton feud maybe :searchme:

I thought it more likely the truth about Ross shooting comes out within their families at least and she leaves in horror but who knows at this point. :hmm:

[lizann]

andy will out ross involvement in robert shooting to debbie and robert

[alcapo11]

Great post Telly Watcher :)

The Chas, Aaron and Gordon storyline is really intriguing me and I'm looking forward to it, I am so ready for a break from all the Ross/Debbie drama, :D

I dislike the constant criminal element that Ross brings I don't necessarily want Ross axed, I know he's popular with many I've gone off him in recent months myself and I would like someone else to be at the fore front of things in the next few weeks & months. I would like Ross to face some sort of comeuppance though for shooting Robert not too mention all the other stuff he's done and he gets away with far too much sick & criminal acts.

I'm not sure Ross will leave with Debbie as I don't see him being written out for months like she will be... only a few weeks at the most, I don't see her leaving him holding the baby either but could imagine Emma trying to get custody or something like that causing a Dingle v Barton feud maybe :searchme:

I thought it more likely the truth about Ross shooting comes out within their families at least and she leaves in horror but who knows at this point. :hmm:

If Ross was to get sent down or get some sort of punishment then wouldnt that just be double standards as Robert will getting away with a murder, shooting someone and nearly burying someone alive. Also I disagree that Ross has been at the forefront of most storylines. Aaron and Robert have had there affair, they have covered up Katie's murder which has led to the who shot Robert storyline.

[alcapo11]

andy will out ross involvement in robert shooting to debbie and robert

If Ross gets sent down or killed off because of it then itsjust double standards as Robert and Andy have both gotten away with murders in the past.

[alcapo11]

andy will out ross involvement in robert shooting to debbie and robert

If Ross gets sent down or killed off because of it then itsjust double standards as Robert and Andy have both gotten away with murders in the past.

[Dalesfan]

This is what I meant in previous posts. Ross should get sent down because he has done wrong but It's ok For Aaron and especially Robert to stick around for what they have done. I get fans have their own opinions and favourites but it isn't one rule for one and one rule for another. Whether you like them or not. If you think that about Ross then you should feel the same way about Robert. (and others)

Ross has been involved in a lot of stories but so has Robert and Aaron and Debbie and now Chas looks to have a big few months. With the who shot Robert, the "stalker" and now her ex turning up. Which means Aaron will be heavily involved. It all evens out.

Just because you are sick of a character doesn't mean everyone feels the same way. And Ross and Debbie can't be boring if everyone is constantly talking about them. When they are quiet they are boring when they have big stories they have too much screen time. They can't win. One thing you can't call them, especially Ross is boring. The Chas, Aaron, Gordon stuff may be interesting but you don't know that yet. We don't know what the story involves yet. I wonder if you will be so harsh on them if they dominate for months down the line

we don't know how Debbie will Leave. Maybe she disappears to look after a sick relative or has some "business". There could be a number of reasons she leaves. And like someone said maybe Ross stays behind to look after the business. Maybe unlikely but you never know

[alcapo11]

This is what I meant in previous posts. Ross should get sent down because he has done wrong but It's ok For Aaron and especially Robert to stick around for what they have done. I get fans have their own opinions and favourites but it isn't one rule for one and one rule for another. Whether you like them or not. If you think that about Ross then you should feel the same way about Robert. (and others)

Ross has been involved in a lot of stories but so has Robert and Aaron and Debbie and now Chas looks to have a big few months. With the who shot Robert, the "stalker" and now her ex turning up. Which means Aaron will be heavily involved. It all evens out.

Just because you are sick of a character doesn't mean everyone feels the same way. And Ross and Debbie can't be boring if everyone is constantly talking about them. When they are quiet they are boring when they have big stories they have too much screen time. They can't win. One thing you can't call them, especially Ross is boring. The Chas, Aaron, Gordon stuff may be interesting but you don't know that yet. We don't know what the story involves yet. I wonder if you will be so harsh on them if they dominate for months down the line
Exactly, the actor also won Best actor, Best bad boy and best affair with Debbie so he can't be doing that bad. He is a character that will be missed by the people who want him to go when he eventually does. I think Ross will be a character that will come and go for years like Cain.

[alcapo11]

This is what I meant in previous posts. Ross should get sent down because he has done wrong but It's ok For Aaron and especially Robert to stick around for what they have done. I get fans have their own opinions and favourites but it isn't one rule for one and one rule for another. Whether you like them or not. If you think that about Ross then you should feel the same way about Robert. (and others)

Ross has been involved in a lot of stories but so has Robert and Aaron and Debbie and now Chas looks to have a big few months. With the who shot Robert, the "stalker" and now her ex turning up. Which means Aaron will be heavily involved. It all evens out.

Just because you are sick of a character doesn't mean everyone feels the same way. And Ross and Debbie can't be boring if everyone is constantly talking about them. When they are quiet they are boring when they have big stories they have too much screen time. They can't win. One thing you can't call them, especially Ross is boring. The Chas, Aaron, Gordon stuff may be interesting but you don't know that yet. We don't know what the story involves yet. I wonder if you will be so harsh on them if they dominate for months down the line
Exactly, the actor also won Best actor, Best bad boy and best affair with Debbie so he can't be doing that bad. He is a character that will be missed by the people who want him to go when he eventually does. I think Ross will be a character that will come and go for years like Cain.

[binky321]

Agree in part, I don't think he needs to get sent down to have his comeuppance lets face it that never happens but he should suffer in some way for his actions whether it be losing Debbie or being ostracised for his actions or some other way to do 3 attempted murders is too much to get away with in my opinion anyway.

But to be fair with Robert and Andy - Robert didn't intentionally kill Katie yes he acted like a crazed maniac and was in panic mode but it was not premeditated he didn't know she would be there he didn't know the floor would collapse which is what killed her ultimately Robert roped Aaron into covering up the truth when they shouldn't have yes and Max King's death was a result of being caught in the middle of a road rage incident due to the brothers feud that wasn't murder either both cases are manslaughter at best. Ross setting out to kill people in a premeditated way even if he didn't succeed is worse it's only luck he is not already a murderer.

[binky321]

Agree in part, I don't think he needs to get sent down to have his comeuppance lets face it that never happens but he should suffer in some way for his actions whether it be losing Debbie or being ostracised for his actions or some other way to do 3 attempted murders is too much to get away with in my opinion anyway.

But to be fair with Robert and Andy - Robert didn't intentionally kill Katie yes he acted like a crazed maniac and was in panic mode but it was not premeditated he didn't know she would be there he didn't know the floor would collapse which is what killed her ultimately Robert roped Aaron into covering up the truth when they shouldn't have yes and Max King's death was a result of being caught in the middle of a road rage incident due to the brothers feud that wasn't murder either both cases are manslaughter at best. Ross setting out to kill people in a premeditated way even if he didn't succeed is worse it's only luck he is not already a murderer.

[alcapo11]

Agree in part, I don't think he needs to get sent down to have his comeuppance lets face it that never happens but he should suffer in some way for his actions whether it be losing Debbie or being ostracised for his actions or some other way to do 3 attempted murders is too much to get away with in my opinion anyway.

But to be fair with Robert and Andy - Robert didn't intentionally kill Katie yes he acted like a crazed maniac and was in panic mode but it was not premeditated he didn't know she would be there he didn't know the floor would collapse which is what killed her ultimately Robert roped Aaron into covering up the truth when they shouldn't have yes and Max King's death was a result of being caught in the middle of a road rage incident due to the brothers feud that wasn't murder either both cases are manslaughter at best. Ross setting out to kill people in a premeditated way even if he didn't succeed is worse it's only luck he is not already a murderer.

The only person Ross has ever attempted to kill is Robert though to be fair. Ross has come close to killing Pete on occasions but you can always tell that he wont do it that's why he needed to make the pact.

[alcapo11]

Agree in part, I don't think he needs to get sent down to have his comeuppance lets face it that never happens but he should suffer in some way for his actions whether it be losing Debbie or being ostracised for his actions or some other way to do 3 attempted murders is too much to get away with in my opinion anyway.

But to be fair with Robert and Andy - Robert didn't intentionally kill Katie yes he acted like a crazed maniac and was in panic mode but it was not premeditated he didn't know she would be there he didn't know the floor would collapse which is what killed her ultimately Robert roped Aaron into covering up the truth when they shouldn't have yes and Max King's death was a result of being caught in the middle of a road rage incident due to the brothers feud that wasn't murder either both cases are manslaughter at best. Ross setting out to kill people in a premeditated way even if he didn't succeed is worse it's only luck he is not already a murderer.

The only person Ross has ever attempted to kill is Robert though to be fair. Ross has come close to killing Pete on occasions but you can always tell that he wont do it that's why he needed to make the pact.

[kennedyfan86]

Mike was just having a joke in reply to Charley, there was no meaning there.
Ross and Debbie will either go away for whatever reason and Mike might find something else during time away and not go back, they'll both be back, together within a year, or Ross will stay and the relationship will carry on whilst Debbie's away with calls, texts, skype being featured a lot

[deeCee]

I was very interested to read posts here made today about the future of Ross and Debbie on Emmerdale.

I think that Mike Parr's tweet (on 08/11/15) should really not be taken out of context. I do not think that this is a tweet particularly about Emmerdale, as he seems to have started to learn not to do this since his \"return from the dead\" in the October 22nd episode of Emmerdale. His latest personal tweet to Charley Webb about \"hurry up and do one. X\" is not, in any way, clear in meaning and seems to me in any case to say totally the reverse of what he really wants (i.e. he wants Charley Webb to stay with him in the workplace, or that he really means \"hurry up and do one, and I will be joining you too as I have another job contract lined up\").

What I meant when I wrote about \"joining up random dots to make a picture you want to see here\" was that it is very easy to want something to happen when you start to study something which you don't know the true outcome of. This is what real research and new study is all about. There may not be the outcome you really want waiting for you at the end because no-one has ever studied or done this before. True research and original study means collecting all of the evidence and information, rejecting all of the false leads, accepting all of the valid information, making sure everything fits the latest theory, not \"adjusting\" or ignoring obviously true information, and most importantly, being ready to ditch any theory when some clearly valid information doesn't fit. Eventually, following these ideals, you should get to the correct explanation for anything under study.

I posted here on soapboards previously about how Mike Parr's tweets could be seen as unclear and how they could be interpreted differently by addition of just some extra words from a sceptical and critical viewer.

See my soapboards post at: http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?137710-Emmerdale-Spoilers-24th-28th-August-2015&p=828721#post828721

We all know how Mike Parr mislead his fans and the general public (even outright lied to everyone) in August 2015 about how his Emmerdale character Ross Barton had \"died\". There really was never any need for this and the actor should really have known better at his age and experience and stayed silent as part of his professional and contractual duties to Emmerdale and the general acting profession until his character of Ross Barton returned to Emmerdale with a planned script on TV screens on 25th August. We will maybe never know for sure if any of Mike Parr's/Ross Barton's fans ever killed themselves over Mike Parr's misleading/lying behaviour during the time that Ross Barton was supposed to be \"dead\", but I for one am now definitely an ex-fan of Ross Barton and of the actor, who I consider to be someone who committed the worst possible, unforgiveable and unthinkable actor crime ever against his fans and the general public in my lifelong experience of watching films and TV programmes by publicly misleading/lying that his soap character was falsely dead. I do not ever see me changing my mind on this issue.

I, for one, would be delighted to have the most terrific Christmas present of Ross Barton disappearing from our TV screens on Emmerdale forever.

For now, my impression is that Ross and Debbie have already max-ed out as major Emmerdale characters and are really both very boring now and well overdue for a break from Emmerdale. I reckon that we all really need to move on from this burnt-out stuff and these two yesterday boring characters and that the really interesting storylines to be shown soon on Emmerdale are going to be about Chas, Aaron and Gordon and that we should all switch our main attention to them.

Check out my latest post about Chas, Aaron and Gordon where the really interesting and exciting action is going to be soon at:
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?137927-Gordon-Livesy-%28Gary-Mavers%29&p=835128#post835128

I would have thought if anyone had, they would have had bigger problems in their life than whether an actor told some porkies about a storyline.

[deeCee]

Great post Telly Watcher :)

The Chas, Aaron and Gordon storyline is really intriguing me and I'm looking forward to it, I am so ready for a break from all the Ross/Debbie drama, :D

I dislike the constant criminal element that Ross brings I don't necessarily want Ross axed, I know he's popular with many I've gone off him in recent months myself and I would like someone else to be at the fore front of things in the next few weeks & months. I would like Ross to face some sort of comeuppance though for shooting Robert not too mention all the other stuff he's done and he gets away with far too much sick & criminal acts.

I'm not sure Ross will leave with Debbie as I don't see him being written out for months like she will be... only a few weeks at the most, I don't see her leaving him holding the baby either but could imagine Emma trying to get custody or something like that causing a Dingle v Barton feud maybe :searchme:

I thought it more likely the truth about Ross shooting comes out within their families at least and she leaves in horror but who knows at this point. :hmm:

This is where the Producers of a soap have real problems with creating the right balance for its fans, because for me, I'm sick to the back teeth of Chas and Aaron and their interminably miserable lives.

If we have had too much Ross, then we certainly have had too much Aaron.

[JessicaMad]

Mike was just having a joke in reply to Charley, there was no meaning there.
Ross and Debbie will either go away for whatever reason and Mike might find something else during time away and not go back, they'll both be back, together within a year, or Ross will stay and the relationship will carry on whilst Debbie's away with calls, texts, skype being featured a lot

What makes you so sure they'll stick together? You said it would've made the love triangle pointless, but there are tons of love triangles in soaps and most of the time neither of them are together in the end.

[kennedyfan86]

What makes you so sure they'll stick together? You said it would've made the love triangle pointless, but there are tons of love triangles in soaps and most of the time neither of them are together in the end.

I wasn't the person who mentioned the love triangle.
I was putting various scenarios in, they might split up cause of Charity and that's why Debbie leaves, for all we know. All we know is she's definitely being temporarily written out, if she's taking anyone with her or not remains to be seen as frustrating as it is

[kennedyfan86]

What makes you so sure they'll stick together? You said it would've made the love triangle pointless, but there are tons of love triangles in soaps and most of the time neither of them are together in the end.

I wasn't the person who mentioned the love triangle.
I was putting various scenarios in, they might split up cause of Charity and that's why Debbie leaves, for all we know. All we know is she's definitely being temporarily written out, if she's taking anyone with her or not remains to be seen as frustrating as it is

[JessicaMad]

[B}I wasn't the person who mentioned the love triangle.[/B]
I was putting various scenarios in, they might split up cause of Charity and that's why Debbie leaves, for all we know. All we know is she's definitely being temporarily written out, if she's taking anyone with her or not remains to be seen as frustrating as it is

BIB:, Apologies, my mistake.

It is definitely frustrating not knowing anything about the exit plot, but it's airing in a few weeks so we must here something soon?

[kennedyfan86]

BIB:, Apologies, my mistake.

It is definitely frustrating not knowing anything about the exit plot, but it's airing in a few weeks so we must here something soon?

She's obviously got her leaving script which she's currently learning, so it'll be filmed in the next couple of weeks cause they get scripts two weeks before shooting and it'll be on air 6/7 weeks after it's filmed so we'll know then who's staying and who's going l, Debbie being the only certainty.
They'll need an exit plot for Matthew Wolfenden as well

[kennedyfan86]

BIB:, Apologies, my mistake.

It is definitely frustrating not knowing anything about the exit plot, but it's airing in a few weeks so we must here something soon?

She's obviously got her leaving script which she's currently learning, so it'll be filmed in the next couple of weeks cause they get scripts two weeks before shooting and it'll be on air 6/7 weeks after it's filmed so we'll know then who's staying and who's going, Debbie being the only certainty.
They'll need an exit plot for Matthew Wolfenden as well

[Perdita]

She's obviously got her leaving script which she's currently learning, so it'll be filmed in the next couple of weeks cause they get scripts two weeks before shooting and it'll be on air 6/7 weeks after it's filmed so we'll know then who's staying and who's going, Debbie being the only certainty.
They'll need an exit plot for Matthew Wolfenden as well Should be easy enough .. visiting Alicia and Jacob :D

[JessicaMad]

From Metro.com:

4. Actress Charley Webb is expecting a baby so it’s inevitable that we will see a temporary exit from Debbie Dingle very soon. And we can promise that she won’t leave the village quietly either. But what does her departure mean for her lover Ross – and how will he react?

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/emmerdale-spoilers-12-festive-hints-on-what-to-expect-from-the-christmas-storylines-5489740/#ixzz3r1M42HZ4

Doesn't mention that Ross goes with her, but it's very brief.

[JessicaMad]

Dupl

[alcapo11]

More miserable Aaron and Chas doesn't sound like a good storyline to me. Haven't we had enough of them?

[Perdita]

I enjoy the sleepwalking Chas .. I do or have done it myself so always interested in what is happening when you hurt yourself quite badly but don´t wake up .. I am guessing now that Debbie´s exit will also be in connection with Ross and Aaron .. like to think the truth will come out for Christmas and no misery for Chas and Aaron :)

[Dalesfan]

From Metro.com:

4. Actress Charley Webb is expecting a baby so it’s inevitable that we will see a temporary exit from Debbie Dingle very soon. And we can promise that she won’t leave the village quietly either. But what does her departure mean for her lover Ross – and how will he react?

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/emmerdale-spoilers-12-festive-hints-on-what-to-expect-from-the-christmas-storylines-5489740/#ixzz3r1M42HZ4

Doesn't mention that Ross goes with her, but it's very brief.

I guess the obvious reason for her to leave would be Ross. Which is what most assume

Just wondering if there is going to be a big Dingle bombshell that makes her go. Secrets round the dinner table for a few of them

[alcapo11]

I have a feeling that the singles will find out that Ross shot Robert and try to make Ross pay for letting Aaron rot in prison which could lead to Ross and Debbie running away together.

[Dalesfan]

I have a feeling that the singles will find out that Ross shot Robert and try to make Ross pay for letting Aaron rot in prison which could lead to Ross and Debbie running away together.

Maybe but then isn't he is Jail for having the gun in his possession aswell? Whether he shot him or not he still had the gun in his possession while on suspended sentence. Not sure if that would give him Jail time without shooting Robert. Not sure how it works

[Serena Williams]

Maybe but then isn't he is Jail for having the gun in his possession aswell? Whether he shot him or not he still had the gun in his possession while on suspended sentence. Not sure if that would give him Jail time without shooting Robert. Not sure how it works

yeah that could work I am tired of Michael Parr the writers have gone overboard with his character I understand Ross is popular BUT I think he is definitely overexposed. Ross does not have to be in every storyline.

[Serena Williams]

Maybe but then isn't he is Jail for having the gun in his possession aswell? Whether he shot him or not he still had the gun in his possession while on suspended sentence. Not sure if that would give him Jail time without shooting Robert. Not sure how it works

yeah that could work I am tired of Michael Parr the writers have gone overboard with his character I understand Ross is popular BUT I think he is definitely overexposed. Ross does not have to be in every storyline.

[Serena Williams]

More miserable Aaron and Chas doesn't sound like a good storyline to me. Haven't we had enough of them?

I like Aaron but I find Chas to be annoying battle axe.

[Serena Williams]

More miserable Aaron and Chas doesn't sound like a good storyline to me. Haven't we had enough of them?

I like Aaron but I find Chas to be annoying battle axe.

[JessicaMad]

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a773542/emmerdales-michael-parr-i-wouldnt-be-surprised-if-ross-and-chrissie-get-together/

I think this confirms Mike isn't leaving for the time being. Very brief article but I found it quite interesting. Hopefully it'll rest some of the rumours about Mike's departure. As I've said before, I don't think he'll still be at Emmerdale in the long term future, but I see him sticking around another year or 2. While Ross hasn't been t his best recently, I think he'll improve once Debbie leaves. The character still has a lot of mileage, especially with Moses and I would like to see him with Chrissie.

[tammyy2j]

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a773542/emmerdales-michael-parr-i-wouldnt-be-surprised-if-ross-and-chrissie-get-together/

I think this confirms Mike isn't leaving for the time being. Very brief article but I found it quite interesting. Hopefully it'll rest some of the rumours about Mike's departure. As I've said before, I don't think he'll still be at Emmerdale in the long term future, but I see him sticking around another year or 2. While Ross hasn't been t his best recently, I think he'll improve once Debbie leaves. The character still has a lot of mileage, especially with Moses and I would like to see him with Chrissie.

At the start I did think Ross and Chrissie had chemistry but I think he has chemistry with everyone :p

So far Ross has had Donna, Debbie, Charity, Victoria and Carly, have I missed anyone out?

[Serena Williams]

At the start I did think Ross and Chrissie had chemistry but I think he has chemistry with everyone :p

So far Ross has had Donna, Debbie, Charity, Victoria and Carly, have I missed anyone out?

I do not see the chemistry between debbie and Ross. Debbie comes across to me as a boring flake she is similar to chas tries to act like she is on a moral high ground compared to everyone else.

[Serena Williams]

At the start I did think Ross and Chrissie had chemistry but I think he has chemistry with everyone :p

So far Ross has had Donna, Debbie, Charity, Victoria and Carly, have I missed anyone out?

I do not see the chemistry between debbie and Ross. Debbie comes across to me as a boring flake she is similar to chas tries to act like she is on a moral high ground compared to everyone else.

[lizann]

I do not see the chemistry between debbie and Ross. Debbie comes across to me as a boring flake she is similar to chas tries to act like she is on a moral high ground compared to everyone else.

all dingles are like that

[lizann]

I do not see the chemistry between debbie and Ross. Debbie comes across to me as a boring flake she is similar to chas tries to act like she is on a moral high ground compared to everyone else.

all dingles are like that

[rossfan]

I thought I'd post this nice news article about Michael. He's doing so well lately and he really deserves it! Really happy for him!


Emmerdale's Michael Parr has won another award - this time in his hometown
The actor picked up a prize at the Pride of St Helens Awards recently.

Emmerdale's Michael Parr just can't stop winning prizes at the moment, having had another successful night at the Pride of St Helens Awards.

The actor received the Imperial Arts Award at the ceremony, which took place in his hometown last Friday, the St Helens Star reports.

The news comes after he picked up Best Actor, Best Bad Boy and Sexiest Male at the Inside Soap Awards last month.

Parr, who plays Ross Barton on the soap, said of his Imperial Arts Award​: "I'm really grateful for this award and as always, it's great to be back here in the town.

"I want people to see St Helens as somewhere worth going to. I get fed up of describing it as somewhere between Liverpool and Manchester. I shouldn't have to."

He added: "There are so many talented people in the town, whether it's sport or the arts, we're really lucky."

​Meanwhile, the Emmerdale actor recently admitted that even after two years, he was still nervous when he heard about the show getting a new producer.​

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a774677/emmerdales-michael-parr-has-won-another-award-this-time-in-his-home-town/

I found this picture of the night with Michael and his grandad.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTw17hXWEAA_vUF.jpg

[Telly Watcher]

The Inside Soap Awards (ISAs) are just an uncontrolled public opinion vote for members of the general public to vote for who they think, at the time of the vote, who should win a category in soapland from a limited number of choices.

The ISA votes are not one person-one vote (so multiple votes from one person are possible). The ISA vote seems very unfair and open to major bias and inaccuracy to me anyway, as there seems to be massive bias as far as geographical location and personal characteristics of voters may play a major part. For example: are most IS voters female, just fancy anything "bad boy" and exciting, someone local (Merseyside?), someone they've attached to on regular TV (Ross Barton?), etc. When (if ever?) the day comes that Mike Parr is finally recognised by his own experienced peer-group and elders within the acting profession by an Oscar nomination (award?) or some other similar award recognised by the acting profession, then I will, for one, be amongst the very first to stand up, clap and cheer. For now, he is just an unpleasant face on UK Emmerdale soap TV for me.

I myself voted for Ross in all available categories during the ISA vote. But this was like 3 months ago. This is like nuts now. We really need to move on from more recent terrible history. Ross Barton has done some truly dreadful things since August 2015 and after Mike Parr lied to everyone worldwide and Ross Barton "returned from the dead". If I was "head honcho" at Emmerdale, I'd make my first decision to totally ban every actor on Emmerdale from discussing, in any way, any present or future storylines on social media.

Ross Barton has behaved truly way beyond acceptable since his return in August 2015 and I, for one, am terribly disappointed with the actor over this but I do realise that the character is, to some extent (but maybe not absolutely, I'd have the very final say if it was me acting Ross!), at the mercy of the current Emmerdale storyliners. I just wish that I'd been an Emmerdale storyliner for Ross Barton for the return storylines from August 2015. I can assure everyone that I would have written things very differently for Ross Barton if I had been the one in charge of Ross's storyline and that there would definitely have included at least some character redemption by now, if not way earlier than this.

As for the recent "Pride of St Helens Award" for Mike Parr, well, I can understand, in a way, of how this was maybe very well-meant for a local lad who has done well for himself. But I do not, in any way, think that he is presently the most appropriate guy to be a respected figurehead for St Helens in Merseyside or a good representative for tourism within the Merseyside region. This award might well have been appropriate 3 or more months ago but it is not, in any way in my opinion, appropriate right now.

As Mike Parr said himself. "I get fed up of describing it as somewhere between Liverpool and Manchester". He really suggests, at least to me anyway by doing this, that St Helens is "chav central"? I am certain that he never meant this, however, but this is how it comes across for now.

The publication of the "Pride of St Helens Award" details from last Friday were not published until about 00:22 this morning (Friday 20/11/15), some 6 days after the Paris atrocities were committed. I really do wonder why there was a publication delay.

The St Helens Awards ceremony for Mike Parr on Friday 13th November seems to pre-date the Paris atrocities later that night. I suppose that no-one could have really known when or what was going to happen later in Paris then but I would never have advised the St Helens ceremony to proceed earlier with its award to Ross Parr. I really do not think that the City of Paris will ever award the Paris "bad guys" for that night from 8:20pm with a "Pride of Paris Award", other than something painted on the front of a cruise missile aimed at their criminal HQ.

I really do wonder right now if the world has already jumped off a cliff and cannot be saved. I really do hope that this is not the case and that the whole world can live in peace and prosper in the future.

Sources:
Arts award goes to Soap bad boy Michael Parr
Paula Morris / Thursday 19 November 2015
http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/14090911.Arts_award_goes_to_Soap_bad_boy_Michael_P arr/

Local St Helens Star news available at:
http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/

[deeCee]

The St Helens Awards ceremony for Mike Parr on Friday 13th November seems to pre-date the Paris atrocities later that night. I suppose that no-one could have really known when or what was going to happen later in Paris then but I would never have advised the St Helens ceremony to proceed earlier with its award to Ross Parr. I really do not think that the City of Paris will ever award the Paris "bad guys" for that night from 8:20pm with a "Pride of Paris Award", other than something painted on the front of a cruise missile aimed at their criminal HQ.


Michael Parr is acting a role.

Ross Barton and his crimes are fictional.

The Paris attacks are real.

I'm baffled as to what you see as a connection.

:searchme:

[Perdita]

Michael Parr is acting a role.

Ross Barton and his crimes are fictional.

The Paris attacks are real.

I'm baffled as to what you see as a connection.

:searchme:

You are not alone!!! :searchme:

[rossfan]

Michael Parr is acting a role.

Ross Barton and his crimes are fictional.

The Paris attacks are real.

I'm baffled as to what you see as a connection.

:searchme:

I don't get it either!

[rossfan]

Michael Parr is acting a role.

Ross Barton and his crimes are fictional.

The Paris attacks are real.

I'm baffled as to what you see as a connection.

:searchme:

I don't get it either!

[JessicaMad]

The Inside Soap Awards (ISAs) are just an uncontrolled public opinion vote for members of the general public to vote for who they think, at the time of the vote, who should win a category in soapland from a limited number of choices.

The ISA votes are not one person-one vote (so multiple votes from one person are possible). The ISA vote seems very unfair and open to major bias and inaccuracy to me anyway, as there seems to be massive bias as far as geographical location and personal characteristics of voters may play a major part. For example: are most IS voters female, just fancy anything \\"bad boy\\" and exciting, someone local (Merseyside?), someone they've attached to on regular TV (Ross Barton?), etc. When (if ever?) the day comes that Mike Parr is finally recognised by his own experienced peer-group and elders within the acting profession by an Oscar nomination (award?) or some other similar award recognised by the acting profession, then I will, for one, be amongst the very first to stand up, clap and cheer. For now, he is just an unpleasant face on UK Emmerdale soap TV for me.

I myself voted for Ross in all available categories during the ISA vote. But this was like 3 months ago. This is like nuts now. We really need to move on from more recent terrible history. Ross Barton has done some truly dreadful things since August 2015 and after Mike Parr lied to everyone worldwide and Ross Barton \\"returned from the dead\\". If I was \\"head honcho\\" at Emmerdale, I'd make my first decision to totally ban every actor on Emmerdale from discussing, in any way, any present or future storylines on social media.

Ross Barton has behaved truly way beyond acceptable since his return in August 2015 and I, for one, am terribly disappointed with the actor over this but I do realise that the character is, to some extent (but maybe not absolutely, I'd have the very final say if it was me acting Ross!), at the mercy of the current Emmerdale storyliners. I just wish that I'd been an Emmerdale storyliner for Ross Barton for the return storylines from August 2015. I can assure everyone that I would have written things very differently for Ross Barton if I had been the one in charge of Ross's storyline and that there would definitely have included at least some character redemption by now, if not way earlier than this.

As for the recent \\"Pride of St Helens Award\\" for Mike Parr, well, I can understand, in a way, of how this was maybe very well-meant for a local lad who has done well for himself. But I do not, in any way, think that he is presently the most appropriate guy to be a respected figurehead for St Helens in Merseyside or a good representative for tourism within the Merseyside region. This award might well have been appropriate 3 or more months ago but it is not, in any way in my opinion, appropriate right now.

As Mike Parr said himself. \\"I get fed up of describing it as somewhere between Liverpool and Manchester\\". He really suggests, at least to me anyway by doing this, that St Helens is \\"chav central\\"? I am certain that he never meant this, however, but this is how it comes across for now.

The publication of the \\"Pride of St Helens Award\\" details from last Friday were not published until about 00:22 this morning (Friday 20/11/15), some 6 days after the Paris atrocities were committed. I really do wonder why there was a publication delay.

The St Helens Awards ceremony for Mike Parr on Friday 13th November seems to pre-date the Paris atrocities later that night. I suppose that no-one could have really known when or what was going to happen later in Paris then but I would never have advised the St Helens ceremony to proceed earlier with its award to Ross Parr. I really do not think that the City of Paris will ever award the Paris \\"bad guys\\" for that night from 8:20pm with a \\"Pride of Paris Award\\", other than something painted on the front of a cruise missile aimed at their criminal HQ.

I really do wonder right now if the world has already jumped off a cliff and cannot be saved. I really do hope that this is not the case and that the whole world can live in peace and prosper in the future.

Sources:
Arts award goes to Soap bad boy Michael Parr
Paula Morris / Thursday 19 November 2015
http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/14090911.Arts_award_goes_to_Soap_bad_boy_Michael_P arr/

Local St Helens Star news available at:
http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/

I actually find it quite disturbing that you dislike a fictional character so much that you feel the need to bring a real life international crisis into it and have to slam the actor on EVERYTHING he does. You keep writing long walls of text on how much you dislike Ross Barton and anything to do with him, okay we get it, the character annoys you, it's not a national disaster! You seem intent on targeting the actor, and his fans over a fictional story. I find it disgusting that you are comparing a TV show character to an evil terrorist group.

What's next, are you going to start slamming Mike's mum and dad for being the reason he is alive? If it bothers you so much, switch off and dedicate your time to real life issues!

[Telly Watcher]

Michael Parr is acting a role.
Ross Barton and his crimes are fictional.
The Paris attacks are real.
I'm baffled as to what you see as a connection.:searchme:

Promoting violence, whether real or fictional, large-scale or small scale, or anything in-between, in the news or on TV, especially if it is unnecessary, is not usually a good idea or answer to problems in a village, town, city or country. That seems to cover everything from Emmerdale village to Paris city, from one extreme to the other. This is the connection I was trying to explain before. There are other ways of telling a story or solving real-life problems than by using violence.

I've given my ideas, others will have theirs. They may be the same, they may be different. That's what a having balanced discussion is all about. Agreeing to disagree is part of doing that.

[deeCee]

Depicting violence isn't promoting it though, anymore than Jai being shown snorting cocaine is promoting drug use.

I am wondering what violent act in real life would you have used agains Mike Parr if the Paris attacks hadn't happened when they did?

There simply is no connection between Mike Parr and international terrorism that I can see.

And to be honest, I don't want my entertainment infantilised in order to protect the weak-willed and the moronic.

More Ross please :thumbsup:

[deeCee]

.

[sarah c]

Promoting violence, whether real or fictional, large-scale or small scale, or anything in-between, in the news or on TV, especially if it is unnecessary, is not usually a good idea or answer to problems in a village, town, city or country. That seems to cover everything from Emmerdale village to Paris city, from one extreme to the other. This is the connection I was trying to explain before. There are other ways of telling a story or solving real-life problems than by using violence.

I've given my ideas, others will have theirs. They may be the same, they may be different. That's what a having balanced discussion is all about. Agreeing to disagree is part of doing that.

but that is a bit like saying lets not show what happened in Paris? because its unnecessary? so we just get the fluffy bit of the news where a kitten falls into a waste basket but is ok??!!

the world isn't fluffy, and where I agree it doesn't need to be hard-core, gore, blood and guts, the shows we watch, and soaps in particular are about 'life', so we would be pretty condemning if they were all about Ashley cuddling a kitten and lambs being bottle fed on the farm and everyone loves everyone?

[sarah c]

and I would rather see Jai take cocaine and his life start to fall apart than the off-screen 'inference' that Jai 'did some drugs' and then is all ok again with no fall out?

surely better to know - take drugs, price to pay, rather than take drugs back to normal tomorrow?

[Telly Watcher]

Promoting violence, whether real or fictional, large-scale or small scale, or anything in-between, in the news or on TV, especially if it is unnecessary, is not usually a good idea or answer to problems in a village, town, city or country. That seems to cover everything from Emmerdale village to Paris city, from one extreme to the other. This is the connection I was trying to explain before. There are other ways of telling a story or solving real-life problems than by using violence


Depicting violence isn't promoting it though, anymore than Jai being shown snorting cocaine is promoting drug use.
I am wondering what violent act in real life would you have used agains Mike Parr if the Paris attacks hadn't happened when they did?
There simply is no connection between Mike Parr and international terrorism that I can see.
And to be honest, I don't want my entertainment infantilised in order to protect the weak-willed and the moronic.
More Ross please :thumbsup:

I think there's some misunderstanding here. This discussion really needs a face-to-face, more interactive place than this slow, old-style message board.

When I wrote "Promoting violence,...", I meant "Being involved in, encouraging, using or showing support for violence,"... is not usually a good idea or answer to problems in a village, town, city or country.". The promotors are any people who do this. It works on every scale, everywhere, in civilised society. In the example I gave it was the terrorists and the violent soap character who are the extremes as examples of self-destructive behaviour. It just happened that the Paris attacks were in the news that day so I used that as a large-scale example but any violent people would have worked too. Through their actions, the promotors become associated with violence so when we see them again the image is already set and we know what to expect if we wait around long enough. This is why promotors make such poor role models and are poor examples for others to copy.

[Telly Watcher]

but that is a bit like saying lets not show what happened in Paris? because its unnecessary? so we just get the fluffy bit of the news where a kitten falls into a waste basket but is ok??!!
the world isn't fluffy, and where I agree it doesn't need to be hard-core, gore, blood and guts, the shows we watch, and soaps in particular are about 'life', so we would be pretty condemning if they were all about Ashley cuddling a kitten and lambs being bottle fed on the farm and everyone loves everyone?

I didn't write about not showing violence on TV. There's maybe a right time and place for everything when it's shown properly and in context. Showing the Paris attacks on TV is good TV because it informs about the situation and it also shows how the good guys are responding (as a lesson) and how the bad guys are ending (another lesson). We get to see fall out, comeuppance, problems solved, everything sorted, when things are done properly. For the terrorists they get dealt with, that's real life and believable. When this doesn't happen in soapworld then we are really being conned with some cheap bangs and flashes, no sensible storyline and no character development. This is what has been happening with Ross Barton for the past 3 months or so, him just being in wacky pointless scenes of crimes and violence with no real reason for starting them and no satisfying end for Ross Barton or for us TV viewers. Ross Barton comes across as an almost complete outsider and misfit in Emmerdale. The only character who gets anything sensible out of him or seems to like him is Debbie, but he's even managed to involve her in mad scenes before now. The criminal storylines have come across as being unbelievable and wacky. I really wouldn't have written these but done something more along the lines of what was done with the character before August 2015 when the image was much more positive then.

[Telly Watcher]

and I would rather see Jai take cocaine and his life start to fall apart than the off-screen 'inference' that Jai 'did some drugs' and then is all ok again with no fall out?
surely better to know - take drugs, price to pay, rather than take drugs back to normal tomorrow?

I agree with you on this. There are a number of really good storylines either starting soon or running right now. These include,

Jai's drugs addiction
Diane's medical illness
Ashley's dementia
Bernice's relationship and open marriage with Lawrence
Chas's medical illness and its consequences for Aaron and Gordon

They all have the same things in common. One character has a problem. The effects and consequences of it are shown, both for the character and the other villagers. There will be a solution and an end, maybe happy, maybe sad, maybe some comeuppance when impacts are negative for the character or those around him. There will maybe be long-term permanent changes for the character and the other villagers. So there will be progress and we TV viewers will go through everything as it happens and we see the actions and changes taking
place. We'll even learn something ourselves along the way about the issue being shown.

For some reason, Ross Barton doesn't get storylines of any quality like this. I wish I knew why.

[Telly Watcher]

I was reading the comments here this forum earlier and I finally realised why I've thought differently about Ross Barton since he "came back from the dead" in August 2015.

What Ross Barton has been doing since then are things which I would never have set up for him as a storyliner. I would have set up some sort of stable personal relationship for him, maybe he could do some minor criminal activities to feed his family and pay the bills, etc, but I would have shown him with some fixable flaws. This is how Ross Barton was shown before and it worked brilliantly. There wouldn't have been any idiotic Itchy and Scratchy cartoon scenes such as those we've seen of late and which fell flat and were forgotten about the moment the episode ended. The latest crime-of-the-week isolated storylines have become very boring and disposable TV viewing. No follow-through, no consequences, just gratuitous and pointless threats and violence which are seen so often now as to be empty and "normal". Where Ross Barton really fails for me is that his character has little or no proper social interaction in the village, has presently has no real direction in life or any signs of improvement for now. All he has is association with these pantomime villain scenes which I think is a poor joke or unbelievable OTT TV. One action stunt over in minutes is nothing compared to a well thought out storyline between multiple characters which has direction and consequences for others now and long-term. The standard school phrase is "Could do better".

[rossfan]

do we know when Ross will be back from Ireland?

[JessicaMad]

do we know when Ross will be back from Ireland?

Not sure. Ross told Andy that Cain had sent him to "look at some motors". I can't imagine that would take more than 3 days. Presumably, this is covering for Mike's 3 week holiday. I think he'll be back on screen this time next week,

[JessicaMad]

do we know when Ross will be back from Ireland?

Not sure. Ross told Andy that Cain had sent him to "look at some motors". I can't imagine that would take more than 3 days, but then again it's only a quick plot device, they never work out realistically. Presumably, this is covering for Mike's 3 week holiday. I think he'll be back on screen this time next week,

[alcapo11]

I was reading the comments here this forum earlier and I finally realised why I've thought differently about Ross Barton since he "came back from the dead" in August 2015.

What Ross Barton has been doing since then are things which I would never have set up for him as a storyliner. I would have set up some sort of stable personal relationship for him, maybe he could do some minor criminal activities to feed his family and pay the bills, etc, but I would have shown him with some fixable flaws. This is how Ross Barton was shown before and it worked brilliantly. There wouldn't have been any idiotic Itchy and Scratchy cartoon scenes such as those we've seen of late and which fell flat and were forgotten about the moment the episode ended. The latest crime-of-the-week isolated storylines have become very boring and disposable TV viewing. No follow-through, no consequences, just gratuitous and pointless threats and violence which are seen so often now as to be empty and "normal". Where Ross Barton really fails for me is that his character has little or no proper social interaction in the village, has presently has no real direction in life or any signs of improvement for now. All he has is association with these pantomime villain scenes which I think is a poor joke or unbelievable OTT TV. One action stunt over in minutes is nothing compared to a well thought out storyline between multiple characters which has direction and consequences for others now and long-term. The standard school phrase is "Could do better".

I agree with the bit about Ross having no social interaction with many people. He needs to be given a mate and have more scenes with Finn, maybe this stuff with Aaron coming up could lead to a friendship.

[alcapo11]

I was reading the comments here this forum earlier and I finally realised why I've thought differently about Ross Barton since he "came back from the dead" in August 2015.

What Ross Barton has been doing since then are things which I would never have set up for him as a storyliner. I would have set up some sort of stable personal relationship for him, maybe he could do some minor criminal activities to feed his family and pay the bills, etc, but I would have shown him with some fixable flaws. This is how Ross Barton was shown before and it worked brilliantly. There wouldn't have been any idiotic Itchy and Scratchy cartoon scenes such as those we've seen of late and which fell flat and were forgotten about the moment the episode ended. The latest crime-of-the-week isolated storylines have become very boring and disposable TV viewing. No follow-through, no consequences, just gratuitous and pointless threats and violence which are seen so often now as to be empty and "normal". Where Ross Barton really fails for me is that his character has little or no proper social interaction in the village, has presently has no real direction in life or any signs of improvement for now. All he has is association with these pantomime villain scenes which I think is a poor joke or unbelievable OTT TV. One action stunt over in minutes is nothing compared to a well thought out storyline between multiple characters which has direction and consequences for others now and long-term. The standard school phrase is "Could do better".

I agree with the bit about Ross having no social interaction with many people. He needs to be given a mate and have more scenes with Finn, maybe this stuff with Aaron coming up could lead to a friendship.

[alcapo11]

Not sure. Ross told Andy that Cain had sent him to "look at some motors". I can't imagine that would take more than 3 days, but then again it's only a quick plot device, they never work out realistically. Presumably, this is covering for Mike's 3 week holiday. I think he'll be back on screen this time next week,
I think Cain knows it was Ross who shot Robert, or is it a coincidence that after Cain visited Andy he then sent Ross away too Ireland?

[alcapo11]

Not sure. Ross told Andy that Cain had sent him to "look at some motors". I can't imagine that would take more than 3 days, but then again it's only a quick plot device, they never work out realistically. Presumably, this is covering for Mike's 3 week holiday. I think he'll be back on screen this time next week,
I think Cain knows it was Ross who shot Robert, or is it a coincidence that after Cain visited Andy he then sent Ross away too Ireland?

[alcapo11]

I agree with you on this. There are a number of really good storylines either starting soon or running right now. These include,

Jai's drugs addiction
Diane's medical illness
Ashley's dementia
Bernice's relationship and open marriage with Lawrence
Chas's medical illness and its consequences for Aaron and Gordon

They all have the same things in common. One character has a problem. The effects and consequences of it are shown, both for the character and the other villagers. There will be a solution and an end, maybe happy, maybe sad, maybe some comeuppance when impacts are negative for the character or those around him. There will maybe be long-term permanent changes for the character and the other villagers. So there will be progress and we TV viewers will go through everything as it happens and we see the actions and changes taking
place. We'll even learn something ourselves along the way about the issue being shown.

For some reason, Ross Barton doesn't get storylines of any quality like this. I wish I knew why.

They have pushed Ross to the limit (shooting Robert, kidnapping Pete and this upcoming robbery with Aaron) but I think it's already up to a redeeming storyline for Ross. Maybe he will save Pete from going to prison or it could be an exit.

[JessicaMad]

I think Cain knows it was Ross who shot Robert, or is it a coincidence that after Cain visited Andy he then sent Ross away too Ireland?
Now that would be interesting. Maybe there are quite a few things we don't know?

[JessicaMad]

They have pushed Ross to the limit (shooting Robert, kidnapping Pete and this upcoming robbery with Aaron) but I think it's already up to a redeeming storyline for Ross. Maybe he will save Pete from going to prison or it could be an exit.

I think they are going to redeem Ross, well sort of anyway. I simply can't imagine him being the sensible family man, but he needs to stop beating people up when he doesn't get his own way. I don't think Ross will leave, he's had about 3 mini exits since her returned from the dead.

[alcapo11]

I think they are going to redeem Ross, well sort of anyway. I simply can't imagine him being the sensible family man, but he needs to stop beating people up when he doesn't get his own way. I don't think Ross will leave, he's had about 3 mini exits since her returned from the dead.

The actress who plays Debbie has stopped filming now so if Mike Part is still seen at the studios then that's a cler indication that he will be staying.

[alcapo11]

I think they are going to redeem Ross, well sort of anyway. I simply can't imagine him being the sensible family man, but he needs to stop beating people up when he doesn't get his own way. I don't think Ross will leave, he's had about 3 mini exits since her returned from the dead.

The actress who plays Debbie has stopped filming now so if Mike Part is still seen at the studios then that's a cler indication that he will be staying.

[JessicaMad]

The actress who plays Debbie has stopped filming now so if Mike Part is still seen at the studios then that's a cler indication that he will be staying.

Exactly.

[JessicaMad]

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