Todd Grimshaw

[Dazzle]

Not to offend any Todd fans but he is seriously SCUM for leading the police to believe Michael was robbing the place before he died.

There's no doubt Todd can be evil, but I think in this case it's likely that he was worried for Eileen's safety as well as his own if he didn't steer the police away from the truth. Phelan has used threats against Eileen to keep Todd quiet in the past, and he didn't have a clue about the circumstances of Michael's death or how far Phelan or Vinny would go to protect themselves.

I'm pretty sure from the way he was studying Phelan's reaction to Michael's death that he wouldn't cover for murder. Hopefully he'll do right thing eventually - but I doubt that'll be for a while since we know Phelan isn't going anywhere for the time being!

[tammyy2j]

I really want Todd to be honest with Eileen and everyone, how much does Billy know?

[Dazzle]

I really want Todd to be honest with Eileen and everyone, how much does Billy know?

I don't think he knows anything about the flats con, though he was privy to Todd's suspicions about Phelan up until that point.

[mariba]

I think there's more layers to Todd, and we don't really know what he does before it happens. One reason why he's such an interesting character, same as phelan. I did hate what phelan did to Michael, and I had wished he would have got the chance to at least say goodbye to gail...

[Perdita]

I don't think he knows anything about the flats con, though he was privy to Todd's suspicions about Phelan up until that point.

If Todd has told Billy about the flats con, it must have been off screen

[Dazzle]

If Todd has told Billy about the flats con, it must have been off screen

I don't think Billy would keep quiet about it if he knew people were being ripped off.

[tammyy2j]

I don't think Billy would keep quiet about it if he knew people were being ripped off.

Yes I don't think he would also

I do think if Billy discovers Todd knew all along and was part of it, he will end their relationship

[Dazzle]

I do think if Billy discovers Todd knew all along and was part of it, he will end their relationship

I agree that will likely be his initial reaction, but I hope he listens to Todd's side and realises the latter felt he had no choice and at least tried to protect his family and Sarah. I think in real life Billy wouldn't continue to have a relationship with Todd (even if he had some sympathy with his situation), but people are far more forgiving in Corrie's universe.

[tammyy2j]

I agree that will likely be his initial reaction, but I hope he listens to Todd's side and realises the latter felt he had no choice and at least tried to protect his family and Sarah. I think in real life Billy wouldn't continue to have a relationship with Todd (even if he had some sympathy with his situation), but people are far more forgiving in Corrie's universe.

But money was also part of Todd's deal with the devil it was not just about protecting his family and Sarah and now Michael is dead, I just don't think Billy will forgive him

[Dazzle]

But money was also part of Todd's deal with the devil it was not just about protecting his family and Sarah and now Michael is dead, I just don't think Billy will forgive him

Maybe I'm giving Todd too much credit here (and my memory is admittedly a little hazy), but I remember I had the feeling Todd only went along with it when Phelan threatened Eileen. He was supposed to get a cut of the proceeds though for sure.

About Michael, the post mortem will show he died of a heart attack and that no one laid a finger on him. Phelan convincingly denied all knowledge of his presence at the building site that night. So although Todd may have his suspicions that Phelan knows more than he's telling, there's absolutely no way anyone can really know what went down unless Phelan admits to it.