Aunt Babe (Annette Badland)

[Glen1]

I didn't know Kat and Alfie were returning.

Their new six part drama "Redwater" due out in the New Year and quotes in the press have said "they won't be returning to E.E just yet . so I guess they plan to return ?

[Dazzle]

Their new six part drama "Redwater" due out in the New Year and quotes in the press have said "they won't be returning to E.E just yet . so I guess they plan to return ?

My understanding was they're hoping to make more series of Redwater if it's well received and that Kat and Alfie won't return if that's the case (except perhaps for the odd flying visit). However, I can't remember where I read that so it might not be correct.

[Glen1]

My understanding was they're hoping to make more series of Redwater if it's well received and that Kat and Alfie won't return if that's the case (except perhaps for the odd flying visit). However, I can't remember where I read that so it might not be correct.

I think your right Dazzle, seem to recall Shane Ritchie saying that in a promotion interview 12 mths. ago. The "not just yet " comment was made in the Mirror , Sun and Metro about a month ago. But of course this comment is open to interpretation either way. I too hope Alfie doesn't return.

[parkerman]

I would have thought that the original long term plan was for Alfie and Kat to return after Redwater, otherwise it seems to me to be a bit strange to send them off on their adventure to find Kat's son with no comeback in the parent soap.

Of course, with the departure of DTC, plans could have changed.....

[Perdita]

I would have thought that the original long term plan was for Alfie and Kat to return after Redwater, otherwise it seems to me to be a bit strange to send them off on their adventure to find Kat's son with no comeback in the parent soap.

Of course, with the departure of DTC, plans could have changed.....

I always thought so too ..

[Dazzle]

I would have thought that the original long term plan was for Alfie and Kat to return after Redwater, otherwise it seems to me to be a bit strange to send them off on their adventure to find Kat's son with no comeback in the parent soap.

Of course, with the departure of DTC, plans could have changed.....

I thought that myself for a long time but it seems from much of what I've read that that's not the case. DTC is the EP of Redwater, so what he's done is create a cushy job for himself as head of what he must be hoping will become a prestigious and long-running BBC drama. From my own point of view, I'm sceptical that will happen with Kat and Alfie as the main characters, but perhaps they've been toned down quite a bit (Kat's wardrobe certainly has been from the pictures I've seen).

Of course, whether the characters will be welcome back in Albert Square if Redwater fails is now down to SOC.

Edited to add:

The series will have six hour-long episodes, with Richie describing it as "Broadchurch meets The Wicker Man", adding that he hopes it will become a long-running show.

http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/s...359#post847359

[Perdita]

Aunt Babe is in her element on EastEnders next month as the Queen Vic goes from strength to strength under her guidance.

Babe (Annette Badland) has recently vowed to take on the café by starting to serve breakfasts at The Vic, and it's full steam ahead for her plans when 2017 begins.

Despite putting on a brave face, poor Kathy Beale (Gillian Taylforth) can't help worrying about Babe's plans - knowing that they'll create some stiff competition for the family business.

What's even more concerning is that breakfasts at The Vic get off to a brilliant start, proving that Babe isn't just a one-hit wonder in the kitchen department.

Seemingly on a roll, Babe quickly makes another plan and suggests that The Vic should host a Twelfth Night event later in the week.

Despite Shirley Carter sensibly questioning whether they're even holding the event on the right day, Babe goes ahead regardless and orders the Carters to perform a scene from Twelfth Night with a twist.

Will everyone cooperate with Babe? And with her exit from Albert Square still looming, will her success be short-lived?

Announcing Babe's exit way back in September, an EastEnders insider told Digital Spy: "Prior to living in The Vic, Aunt Babe was seen coming and going from the Square with her own life away from Walford.

"So while she won't be a permanent resident, she will still very much be in the wings and could well continue to cause aggro for the Carters."

EastEnders airs these scenes on Tuesday, January 3 at 7.30pm and Thursday, January 5 at 8pm on BBC One.

Digital Spy

[Splashy]

The Beales deserve all the misery they get, I would rate Babe above all of them, she might be evil but shes never covered up a murder and sent someone innocent to jail without remorse. The way they play Jane like we should feel sorry for her is sickening, this is a woman who found a girl dead in her house then dumped her body in a field.

As for Kathy. Wow, one of the most twisted self involved coves in soap, whines when she cant get her way gets violent when its about money for her lover Gavin.

In short Im looking forward to this S/L.

[Dazzle]

The Beales deserve all the misery they get, I would rate Babe above all of them, she might be evil but shes never covered up a murder and sent someone innocent to jail without remorse. The way they play Jane like we should feel sorry for her is sickening, this is a woman who found a girl dead in her house then dumped her body in a field.

I disagree.

The Beales have done some terrible things and deserve a truly nasty revenge from Max, but at least they have consciences and believed in a very twisted way that they were doing the best thing by protecting Bobby. Ian was suicidal and Jane perjured herself in court trying to get Max off so they were definitely not without remorse about the whole thing.

They appear to have given no thought to Max since he was found guilty but I put that down to bad writing by DTC (which hopefully will by rectified by SOC when Max returns) because it doesn't fit their previous characterisations.

As for Babe, she has no conscience and feels no remorse. I stopped watching EE when she was blackmailing the Cokers because I found it unbearably cruel. She was downright malicious and worst of all enjoyed every moment!

It's a shame because Annette Badland is great but Babe is just completely irredeemable.

[parkerman]

I disagree.

The Beales have done some terrible things and deserve a truly nasty revenge from Max, but at least they have consciences and believed in a very twisted way that they were doing the best thing by protecting Bobby. Ian was suicidal and Jane perjured herself in court trying to get Max off so they were definitely not without remorse about the whole thing.

They appear to have given no thought to Max since he was found guilty but I put that down to bad writing by DTC (which hopefully will by rectified by SOC when Max returns) because it doesn't fit their previous characterisations.

As for Babe, she has no conscience and feels no remorse. I stopped watching EE when she was blackmailing the Cokers because I found it unbearably cruel. She was downright malicious and worst of all enjoyed every moment!

It's a shame because Annette Badland is great but Babe is just completely irredeemable.

I diasagree with your disagreeing, Dazzle.

I think Jane and Ian are despicable for what they've done and I can't see any redeeming characteristics in them. You can't just say that's down to DTC's writing without saying the same about Babe! Everyone's actions in soaps are defined by the producer and writers. They are not real people.