Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[flappinfanny]

Wiki says:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...09)#Andy_Jones
Andy Jones, played by Aneirin Hughes, is the adoptive father of established character Danielle Jones (Lauren Crace).


Andy asks Danielle to return to their hometown Telford as her brother, Gareth, is getting married.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel...es_(EastEnders)

I wonder then if Andy is in fact Gareth? Interesting stuff.

[tammyy2j]

Quite frankly, I am heartily sick of this Peggy storyline. Eastenders are just indulging her in her own egotistical delusion that she is the greatest thing ever to happen to Eastenders. The national treasure who decided to grace our screens with her presence. Now she's decided to go, of course, she has to be treated like royalty and everything else has to stop for her and her own fantasy that she is a legend.

Yes, she played a big part in Eastenders (not very well in my opinion) but so did a lot of other people, the 30 year history of the show is not and never was all about her. It's almost as if Eastenders itself is dying. Well it won't and personally, I haven't missed her while she's been absent and won't now.

I think Barbara as a big Carry On acting star joining the soap was a very deal at the time when she started playing Peggy

The Mitchell family are such an synonymous family with the show and being the matriarch and also pub landlady for a long time she is going to get a big send off

I am enjoying her "last orders" send off as so far some great emotional scenes very well acted

[lizann]

im still hoping for a peg slap on claudette, is there a showdown between them before she dies which is next tuesday that peg dies

[Rear window]

I think Barbara as a big Carry On acting star joining the soap was a very deal at the time when she started playing Peggy

She did do a line that was so 'carry on' I nearly turned the telly off.

[lizann]

jay the forgotten mitchell no love for him for peg

[Dazzle]

I thought Monday's episode was excellent. It was just as much about Phil as Peggy, so I hope viewers who dislike the latter still enjoyed it. The mother and her two boys are reunited at last and I can't wait for their scenes tomorrow.

I am wondering whether Phil and Peggy are really discussing her suicide? Their words have been written very carefully to make it sound like that without being specific. Still,

Spoiler:

she apparently dies tomorrow so that doesn't leave much time for anything else to kill her. Perhaps something could happen to her brain (such as a stroke or an aneurysm) since it's apparent that organ's seriously affected by the cancer?

I thoroughly enjoyed Ian and Phil's, and Peggy and Stacey's chats.

[flappinfanny]

A nice mention of Pauline in tonight's episode, good scenes with Phil and Peggy. I think it may be too late to try and make Ian likeable again, it does not wash with me sorry. Ian and Jane are ruined characters. Liked the look Peggy gave Claudette. It was as though Peggy had trod in something smelly.

Grants entrance was a bit of an anti climax and that Duff Duff at the end seemed to go on for ever with the camera zooming onto Ross Kemps face.

[parkerman]

I think it may be too late to try and make Ian likeable again, it does not wash with me sorry. Ian and Jane are ruined characters.

I couldn't agree more. I just think they are both despicable and cringe every time they come on.

[lizann]

was claudette not in hiding from vincent?

[Dazzle]

I think it may be too late to try and make Ian likeable again, it does not wash with me sorry. Ian and Jane are ruined characters.

I couldn't agree more. I just think they are both despicable and cringe every time they come on.

I disagree.

Ian and Jane have done a terrible thing and must pay for it (I suspect Jane will go (one way or another) leaving Ian bereft - plus he's likely to lose Bobby for the foreseeable future), but at least they did what they did out of love. Compare that to a character like Phil who hurts everyone around him because he takes pleasure in it. He's also just as guilty of covering for Bobby (as are others), so I don't think Ian and Jane come off too badly in comparison.

I believe Ian can be redeemed when he's lost everything as a consequence of the cover up (which of course includes allowing Max to go to prison). Today's scene between Ian and Phil proved to me that even the most unlikable characters can be compelling. It really depends if the acting and writing is good enough to elicit the audience's sympathy. I find Phil the most detestable character currently in EE but Steve McFadden is able to make me sympathise with Phil's current predicament almost against my wishes.

I certainly don't condone Ian and Jane's crimes and wouldn't associate with them in real life (and wouldn't hesitate in turning them in), but as soap characters I can still enjoy watching them. I must admit that wasn't the case earlier in the year when they conspired to send Max down but, unlike in real life, we can be fairly certain all this will come out sooner or later and there'll be serious repercussions for them.

I'm always aware of the ticking time bomb when I watch them which adds tension to their scenes. I do think the whole storyline could (and should) have been written much better and in a way that we could sympathise more with their desperate predicament. I just hope the denouement to this tale is handled more skilfully.