Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[lizann]

no pam isn't homophobic, she hates ben for his past treatment of paul, think paul should have told his grandparents he was now in a relationship with ben

pam wants better for paul than ben

[Dazzle]

Did Star claim Jay had sex with her ? Thats a rape under the law , even being found not guilty wont stop it ruining his life.

No, she repeatedly told her loathsome mum he'd done nothing wrong.

Pam does she hate Ben for messing with her grandson or is she really a secret homophobe?

I wondered that at first but then realised her attitude was probably because he's Ben Mitchell, notoriously unstable bully boy and killer. I can't see many potential in laws welcoming him with open arms.

[flappinfanny]

Great scenes with Denise, Phil and Jay. It comes to something when Kim is the voice of reason.

Denise had the line of the night to Phil, "It's been a long time since anyone has said that to me. It's just a shame it's you"

[Rear window]

Great scenes with Denise, Phil and Jay. It comes to something when Kim is the voice of reason.

Denise had the line of the night to Phil, "It's been a long time since anyone has said that to me. It's just a shame it's you"

It was an odd episode. The setting up of Denise and Phil together was a bit clumsy and a bit horrid.

I felt sorry for Jay - he's tried to finish it and it's all gone horribly wrong.

Amazing how fast the police react though - gangs of them roaming the street hunting down teenagers opinions as if he'd been bonking them all.

Denise was horrid to Libby. And as for getting champagne to celebrate after that news, well it was really horrid too. I don't think I enjoyed any of tonights really as there was also the pushy builder with Stacey.

[tammyy2j]

Poor Jay but at least Ben, Billy and Honey are standing by him

I was expecting Claudette to show up

Did the police take any statements from Linzi/Starr and Rebecca as they did from Louise

I was disappointed in Mick and Johnny refusing to serve Jay and Ben after all Mick went through with Dean I believe he was still letting him in the pub serving him after knowing the truth about the rape

[lizann]

johnny studying in a pub and is hit on amazing gaydar by your man

really feel sorry for jay but a good storyline well acted by jamie

[Dazzle]

really feel sorry for jay but a good storyline well acted by jamie

I agree, I'm pleasantly surprised by how well this story has been handled overall, even though it's been so harsh on Jay. I'm very glad Linzi hasn't been painted as a teenage seductress who entrapped Jay (well, except by Ben, but I wouldn't expect anything less from him). She's vulnerable and desperate for someone to love her.

Youngsters sending explicit photos of themselves because they believe they need to in order to win someone's affection - and because "everyone else does it" - is a real problem nowadays. Most of us adults haven't caught up to the fact that the sexual pressures on kids today are far different and more intense than we encountered. I saw a headline earlier today that youngsters as young as eleven are becoming victims of revenge porn FFS! So the talk Sonia, Sharon etc had with the young girls about consent and only doing what they feel comfortable with was very timely.

Jamie Borthwick is playing a blinder as the devastated Jay. Being put on the sex offenders register was cruel because we know exactly what went down and that he's a decent person who's been naive at worst. However, the law's first duty is to protect children, and rightly so.

My biggest complaint about the storyline is that Jay never asked Linzi's age. I understand why they did it that way (so Jay would be innocent and Linzi not painted in a bad light), but it's a massive plot hole as far as I'm concerned.

Also, I can understand your average member of the public thinking Jay's a paedophile, there's no way Ritchie would have used that term. A paedophile is attracted to pre-pubescent children, a fact of which any lawyer would be well aware.

[Dazzle]

Did the police take any statements from Linzi/Starr and Rebecca as they did from Louise

They definitely would have interviewed Linzi and, since the court accepted Jay was unaware she was underage, she must have told the truth.

[Splashy]

So Jay had explicit pictures of a 14 year old on his phone! Yeah for me that over cooked the story line, thats not how I see Jay rolling or indeed he would of deleted them instantly when he knew how old she was, not keep them.

Pleading guilty thou, but then when your brief judges you guilty and walks what chance do you have.

Loved Tina outing Sonja as a T leaf, lets hope Tina can find someone decent and soon.

[Splashy]

So Jay had explicit pictures of a 14 year old on his phone! Yeah for me that over cooked the story line, thats not how I see Jay rolling or indeed he would of deleted them instantly when he knew how old she was, not keep them.

Pleading guilty thou, but then when your brief judges you guilty and walks what chance do you have.

Loved Tina outing Sonja as a T leaf, lets hope Tina can find someone decent and soon.