Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[lizann]

i did laugh at dean's audacity's asking was all ok to his parents

[flappinfanny]

A good start to the week. We have foreigners (Northerner's) in Albert Square.

Nice to see Mo and Charlie again. How could Fat Elvis Dump Maureen?

Excellent scenes in prison with Dean, Buster and Shirley and loving the Nanwar scenes. All in all a good episode.

[Dazzle]

The guy tried to drown his mother, and then had the audacity to call her, to get her to get him a good lawyer. The notion that he would suddenly grow a conscience and confess seems highly improbable now. He's so deluded with his innocence, I bet he could kill Shirley right in front of a million witnesses, and still say it weren't his fault.

I agree Dean won't accept responsibility for his crimes any time soon (if ever).

Sorry, I didn't make it clear that I meant he might plead guilty to get a lesser sentence given the evidence against him. A solicitor would probably advise him to do so, and if Dean can't get hold of money and has to accept a duty solicitor, he might feel the latter would be unable to mount a decent enough defence to get him off. Hence, Dean might possibly plead guilty in order to get as short a sentence as possible.

That was what I meant anyway; I've no idea if it'll happen that way or if Dean would ever be pragmatic enough to plead guilty when he doesn't believe he is.

Well, it's not unusual for a guy to want to name his kid after his late father, and Stacey probably didn't want to put up too much of a fuss at the time in case Martin started suspecting the truth.

I totally understand Martin wanting to name his son after his father. What I was questioning was DTC's thinking in deciding to give a baby not related to Martin a name so steeped in EE history.

[Dazzle]

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[tammyy2j]

So much for my claim that the New Year's Day episodes would draw a line under the rape storyline!

I'm still holding out faint hope Dean will plead guilty if he can't afford the lawyer he wants.

Why did DTC and colleagues decide to name Stacey's baby after an iconic character if he's not even related to the original Arthur Fowler? It makes me suspect Stacey has made a mistake, even though it's unlikely the hospital would have. Still, DTC does like his improbable twists...

I would love for Stacey to be wrong and have little Arthur be Martin's baby, even with her postpartum psychosis I'm finding it hard to have sympathy for her and no surprise Kyle is her brother as suspected

I was hoping for Shirley to have a good conversation with Dean and ask him why he did the rape and attempted rape and try and get him to confess

Buster pretty much confirmed he did suspect Dean had raped Linda but instead choose to side with Dean

I guess with Linda and Mick on honeymoon we wont see Linda get an apology from Shirley and Buster, is Ollie gone with them?

The nun is back to see Kat for a donation

With all their money why don't Kat and Alfie and the kids stay in posh fab expensive hotel

[Dazzle]

I was hoping for Shirley to have a good conversation with Dean and ask him why he did the rape and attempted rape and try and get him to confess

Buster pretty much confirmed he did suspect Dean had raped Linda but instead choose to side with Dean

I guess with Linda and Mick on honeymoon we wont see Linda get an apology from Shirley and Buster

Shirley and Buster are nowhere near redeemed in my eyes, even if she is back running the pub as if butter wouldn't melt.

Their reactions to the rape revelation - attempted drowning and threats - don't impress me. Obviously I can understand their disgust and anger, but haven't they learned that yet more threats and violence aren't the answer? Basically it's been more of the same from Shirley and Buster, except this time their ire is directed at Dean instead of Linda. Maybe it was too much to hope they'd learn something from the experience...

As you say tammyy2j, a meaningful conversation in the prison was very much needed.

With all their money why don't Kat and Alfie and the kids stay in posh fab expensive hotel

Excellent point!

[parkerman]

Sorry, this is going back a bit in time, but I thought it was of some interest if anyone hasn't seen it.

The following is an exchange in next week's Radio Times letters column. As you can see, the viewer who wrote in expresses the views many of us made at the time, while the BBC do not answer the question at all.

Letter: "I was appalled by the Eastenders plotline about Cora's homelessness, which painted council officials as uninterested and enjoying a Christmas lunch while others suffer - and then, after one protest, were able to produce a home for her immediately like a rabbit out of a hat. It was irresponsible, and disrespectful both to those looking for a home and to cash-strapped councils doing their best at times of massive cuts."

BBC response: "This episode was part of a long running storyline involving Cora Cross. Eastenders has a long history of reflecting social issues but, being a drama, the outcomes for characters can vary and the main point of Cora's story was her family and friends rallying round and doing everything they could to help find a home for Christmas."

So no real answer at all then.

[Dazzle]

The BBC's PR team has obviously been taking lessons from politicians on how to use the maximum number of words to say absolutely nothing.

[Perdita]

Sorry, this is going back a bit in time, but I thought it was of some interest if anyone hasn't seen it.

The following is an exchange in next week's radio Times letters column. As you can see, the viewer who wrote in expresses the views many of us made at the time, while the BBC do not answer the question at all.

Letter: "I was appalled by the Eastenders plotline about Cora's homelessness, which painted council officials as uninterested and enjoying a Christmas lunch while others suffer - and then, after one protest, were able to produce a home for her immediately like a rabbit out of a hat. It was irresponsible, and disrespectful both to those looking for a home and to cash-strapped councils doing their best at times of massive cuts."

BBC response: "This episode was part of a long running storyline involving Cora Cross. Eastenders has along history of reflecting social issues but, being a dram, the outcomes for characters can vary and the msin point of Cora's story was her family and friends rallying round and doing everything they could to help find a home for Christmas."

So no real answer at all then.

Sorry, I rarely do this but this time ..B******S*

[flappinfanny]

A good episode again tonight. WE are being spoilt. When does the real EastEnders return? For me June Whitfield was the stand out performer tonight, but Jessie and Lacey were very good and the introduction of the character Kyle was interesting . Daran Little's script was very good, my only niggle was, did we need to have Stacey's storyline along with Kats tonight, in the same episode? It did seem a bit of an over load and perhaps we lose some of the impact of both storylines?