Amber Turner

[Summer8]

It was nice to see Amber actually stand her ground today and admit to Lauren one of the reasons for her wanting to leave was because of Brad and Paige. Her acting so far has been extremely wooden and emotionless - so I don't know what secrets she has in store for Los Angeles when she gets there in real life ..... she really does need to up her game and not rely on looks alone.

Yeah I agree with the bit about her standing her ground about Brad, I Havn't minded her acting though I didn't think it was too bad..... I still think it wasn't right just to take the baby away from the father.......

[LollyCarpenter]

Yeah I agree with the bit about her standing her ground about Brad, I Havn't minded her acting though I didn't think it was too bad..... I still think it wasn't right just to take the baby away from the father.......

Perhaps but I can see her reasoning. She feels like it's up to her to make a life for herself and Matilda and stand on her own two feet until Josh is able to cope with fatherhood and this job will help her be independent. It's not ideal that Josh has to be separated from his daughter in the meantime, but she's doing it for her and Matilda's future. I like Amber now, thought she was a bit weak before. it's a shame she feels she has to leave home because of Brad.

Good luck to Jenna in America. Hope she can do some good work over there.

[Dazzle]

I still think it wasn't right just to take the baby away from the father.......

I totally agree. They've tried to make it less of an issue by having Josh not bond with Matilda, but that doesn't make a difference to me because he obviously cares and wants to work at it.

As a former single mother whose daughter was close to her dad, I always swore I'd never move her away from him (even though I disliked him personally). It's the child who suffers the most in those circumstances.

[LollyCarpenter]

I totally agree. They've tried to make it less of an issue by having Josh not bond with Matilda, but that doesn't make a difference to me because he obviously cares and wants to work at it.

As a former single mother whose daughter was close to her dad, I always swore I'd never move her away from him (even though I disliked him personally). It's the child who suffers the most in those circumstances.

Yes, children should come first and that's exactly what Amber's doing, putting Matilda first not just thinking about her own needs. Caring for the baby and wanting to be a dad is all well and good but Josh has to be able to pull his weight and for Amber to fully trust that she can depend on him in co-parenting Matilda. It doesn't seem fair to Josh, but Amber doesn't know when or if he'll be ready to be a dad. For now, she has to consider her own future and what it may mean if she has to raise the baby as a single mum.

[Dazzle]

Yes, children should come first and that's exactly what Amber's doing, putting Matilda first. Caring for the baby and wanting to be a dad is all well and good but Josh has to be able to pull his weight and for Amber to fully trust that she can depend on him in co-parenting Matilda.

It's not as if Amber is destitute or has no future. If she was truly worried about taking Matilda away from her dad she could have attempted to make a joint decision with Josh or at the very least asked him to move with them. And let's not forget she's also taking Matilda away from everyone else who knows and loves her.

The writers were in a tight spot thinking of a way to let Amber leave just after the birth. Maybe it would have been better to have her take Matilda to a specialised care centre (or something similar), and to have made the decision jointly with Josh.

[LollyCarpenter]

It's not as if Amber is destitute or has no future. If she was truly worried about taking Matilda away from her dad she could have attempted to make a joint decision with Josh or at the very least asked him to move with them. And let's not forget she's also taking Matilda away from everyone else who knows and loves her.

The writers were in a tight spot thinking of a way to let Amber leave just after the birth. Maybe it would have been better to have her take Matilda to a specialised care centre (or something similar), and to have made the decision jointly with Josh.

But Amber can't rely on her family or anyone else forever, I think she's really stepping up as an adult, it shows just how much she's evolved and grown up since the Turners first came to Ramsay Street, it's not an easy path she's taking.

And it's not as if Amber has forbidden Josh or the Willies from having any contact, she's made it very clear they are welcome to visit or pehaps she can fly down when she's not working, and that she'll always keep in contact with them. I think Josh and the Willises recognised that in the long run Amber's decision would benefit the most important person in this, Matilda, and they were right to let her go even though it was hard for them, too.

[Dazzle]

But Amber can't rely on her family or anyone else forever, I think she's really stepping up as an adult, it shows just how much she's evolved and grown up since the Turners first came to Ramsay Street, it's not an easy path she's taking.

And it's not as if Amber has forbidden Josh or the Willies from having any contact, she's made it very clear they are welcome to visit or pehaps she can fly down when she's not working, and that she'll always keep in contact with them. I think Josh and the Willises recognised that in the long run Amber's decision would benefit the most important person in this, Matilda, and they were right to let her go even though it was hard for them, too.

I'd have sympathy for Amber if I felt she needed to take the job. However, she lives at home with her comfortably-off mother, works at the coffee shop, and does freelance photography (she even has her own website). She also has even better future prospects when she graduates.

The truth is that Amber's taking the job because she wants to not because she needs to. Josh's reluctant agreement to the move doesn't persuade me either, because my concern is more about how the separation will affect Matilda than Josh. Visits are not the same.

[LollyCarpenter]

I'd have sympathy for Amber if I felt she needed to take the job. However, she lives at home with her comfortably-off mother, works at the coffee shop, and does freelance photography (she even has her own website). She also has even better future prospects when she graduates.

The truth is that Amber's taking the job because she wants to not because she needs to. Josh's reluctant agreement to the move doesn't persuade me either, because my concern is more about how the separation will affect Matilda than Josh. Visits are not the same.

It's lovely for Amber to have a caring family who support her, but as she told her mum, she needs to know she can cope without it too. She has family support until such time as she can actually be independent and not need to lean on them which is what she's aiming for. She can still study in Queensland, a good job and getting her degree will give her even more prospects for the future.

No visits aren't the same, I agree with you on that point but I don't believe Amber is being entirely selfish, either.

[Dazzle]

I really don't believe Amber is taking the job purely for her own selfish sreasons.

I don't believe she's doing it purely for her own selfish reasons either. Amber has never been a selfish character. I just think in this instance she's made the wrong decision.

[LollyCarpenter]

Maybe for now it doesn't seem right but in the long run if she works hard and studies it will turn out for the best. Josh isn't a bad kid and I think he'll eventually get to where he wants to be and embrace being a great caring dad. Right now he still needs family support but that's okay.