Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[lizann]

ah bloody hell mick, dean raped your wife

[parkerman]

ah bloody hell mick, dean raped your wife

Yes, it's just getting [very rude word] ridiculous now!

[tammyy2j]

I feel like I missed an episode now all Mick's family are fine with Buster and Shirley

Linda is making a lot of effort

Is Ronnie not thinking of her son Matthew, as much as I want Dean gone if she kills him she gets banged up again and what about the baby

[Rear window]

I think she is definitely a bit fruit loops at the moment. Ok, a lot.

[Dazzle]

I used to think Shirley was a very good character, even though she could be hateful. However, I completely despise her now and can't imagine ever liking her again.

Mick's been big enough (read disloyal enough) to let her back into his life, and she immediately starts trying to guilt him into making peace with his wife's rapist!!!!! As usual, everything's about her and her feelings. Words fail...

I feel like I missed an episode now all Mick's family are fine with Buster and Shirley

Yep. I feel like those scenes took place in a parallel universe where Linda didn't get raped by their son and they didn't spend months harassing her about it.

I think she is definitely a bit fruit loops at the moment. Ok, a lot.

Ronnie's lost the plot big time. If she's so intent on killing Dean, why warn him about the spiked drink after he's only taken a couple of sips? That couldn't possibly be enough to knock him out any time soon.

[storyseeker1]

I used to think Shirley was a very good character, even though she could be hateful. However, I completely despise her now and can't imagine ever liking her again.

She still doesn't want to admit that Dean had anything to do with what happened to Linda. Until she gets over that delusion and finally admits the truth, she can't truly make up with Mick. I can understand why she doesn't want to admit it, as what mother would want to willingly admit that their own son was a rapist.. But this has gone far enough!

IRonnie's lost the plot big time. If she's so intent on killing Dean, why warn him about the spiked drink after he's only taken a couple of sips? That couldn't possibly be enough to knock him out any time soon.

Oh, Ronnie lost it long before all this stuff with Dean happened. She's totally flipped.

[lizann]

i get mick wants shirl back in his life but this is bloody (add in more curse words) ridiculous

[Glen1]

Assuming Mick isn't playing the " double agent " to sort Dean out ,EE have destroyed one of the best characters on the show. Linda just seems to sit there and soak up what Mick is doing. Shirley goes with Mick to help him select his wedding suit ,why ? I don't get why Mick is going over the top sucking up to Shirley given the rape circumstances, Shirley continues to stick up for her depraved excuse of a son Dean . Mick's duty must be to support his future wife and family even at the cost of turning his back on his mother ,who if she has any compassion for Mick and Linda would have to understand or lump it .
I really hope that Mick has a plan of action for Dean and that Linda is in on it...

[Dazzle]

Assuming Mick isn't playing the " double agent " to sort Dean out ,EE have destroyed one of the best characters on the show. Linda just seems to sit there and soak up what Mick is doing. Shirley goes with Mick to help him select his wedding suit ,why ? I don't get why Mick is going over the top sucking up to Shirley given the rape circumstances, Shirley continues to stick up for her depraved excuse of a son Dean . Mick's duty must be to support his future wife and family even at the cost of turning his back on his mother ,who if she has any compassion for Mick and Linda would have to understand or lump it .
I really hope that Mick has a plan of action for Dean and that Linda is in on it...

I wish that were true, Glen, but I doubt the writers are that clever. No, Mick is just missing his mummy and is willing to cause Linda a lot of pain to have her back in his life. As you say, Mick's character has been destroyed in the process.

One of the best things about Mick was his unwavering support and defence of Linda, and that's suddenly gone. He (and the rest of the family) sat and ignored Linda's extreme discomfort at having Shirley and Buster at Lee's birthday party. This is the one and only time I'd say he should ignore what Linda says because she's obviously putting her feelings last. That's not something Mick should accept for a moment!

Even when Shirley said Dean isn't all bad, Mick's denial was half-hearted! Why didn't he tell her in no uncertain terms he'd never go near Dean again?

I understand that Shirley doesn't believe her own son to be capable of rape. However, she knows Mick believes it implicitly and yet she's still pushing him to make it up with Dean. Even if she were correct that Linda's lying about the rape to cover up a sleazy fling (and therefore apparently deserves everything she gets), she's been absolutely vile towards Mick and his children. She also never misses the opportunity to have a dig at Linda.



Hold on though...I've just seen the light!!! The rape storyline has never been about Linda, it's always been about Shirley having to choose sides between her two warring sons. Nothing else matters. It all makes sense now...

[maidmarian]

re Dazzles#9419

Ive read your post above and it does all
seem to make sense!

Its no problem to me to believe anything
about Shirley-Ive never liked her for even
a nano second.
It took me a little while to get used to Mick
but I do.like him.and found him a believable
character til very recently.

Hopefully he does have a "masterplan" -but
that seems unlikely.!

The only faint & forlorn hope is that he is
suffering a form of breakdown ?
Both he and Linda have been under extreme
stress for a long while. No external support
and a lot of unkindness and criticism.

I wonder if it has all "caught up" with him
and hes switched off and gone into a form
of regression re his mother & childhood.
Perhaps the shock of whatever happens at the
Lake brings him out of it! I hope so - as Glen
says a good character ruined otherwise.!

Sorry if above all rubbish -but people do
behave strangely after long term.pressure
and just hope Mick.returns to his usual.
self - somehow!

p.s. providing support to someone who
has suffered a traumatic event can put
strain on those who provide support.

I found the way Shirley was suddenly made
a central.character very contrived !
No criticism of the actress but I dont think
the character was developed in a believable
way to carry that successfully"