Emmerdale Spoilers 19th-23rd October 2015

[Telly Watcher]

Cain has a history of using other people for the dodgiest jobs. He used Ross first in October 2013 when Ross then showed up at Butlers Farm with a gunshot wound from a bungled job which Cain had told Ross would be "easy". The new spoilers also say that Cain asks Adam to help kill Robert but Cain ends up going to do it himself at the hospital.

I looked at the shooting episode (Sept 25th) again yesterday. After the shooting, Ross goes into Debbie's house a few doors away from the pub and tells her in a sort of surprised/shocked voice that "Robert's been shot", as if he'd only seen Robert laying on the ground at the back of the pub rather than having shot him himself. Just my impression really but we all know that Ross can be capable of anything. He also said that he'd "nearly" done something but changed his mind as he would end up in jail if he stayed around Emmerdale. I took this to mean that he was going to kill Pete at the farm but didn't, maybe because he thought about the long-term consequences, and decided to leave Emmerdale for now, if not forever.

I still can't think of any motive for Ross to shoot Robert other than on behalf of somebody else for money. If Cain or Ross was the shooter, I'm not sure if he used a new gun or the one from Home Farm (Lachlan's). I do think Lachlan had his gun with him in the village that evening and then threw it away as he walked home but whether he just was scared after having seen Robert shot by someone else and Lachlan just threw the unused gun into the field or Lachlan had used the gun to shoot Robert with is another matter.

One of the scenes we haven't been shown yet is who was inside the pub when Robert was shot. Maybe Cain or Ross (or both) were in there at the time? We were shown the inside of the cafe and know who was in there at the time.

I do wonder if Chas lured Robert to the back of the pub by texting him minutes before and maybe leading Robert into a trap with the shooter already in place and known by Chas but I'm not sure if Chas would be told about the details of the hit if it was Cain doing the shooting (or Ross was doing it for Cain). Cain wasn't seen in the village that night as far as I remember. Ross could have done the shooting for Chrissie or even Lawrence, of course, with money likely to be the main motive.

There are still many questions to answer.

[Telly Watcher]

Jeff Hordley said in a Radio Times interview published on 13/10/15 that Cain steals a pair of scissors from Chrissie's room at Home Farm and then teases all of the guests downstairs about whether they had any role in Robert's shooting. Chrissie shouts in front of everyone there that she wishes Robert was dead. Cain later goes to the hospital to use Chrissie's scissors to puncture Robert's oxygen line and to frame Chrissie for trying to murder Robert.

Source:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-...ew-murder-plot

[Telly Watcher]

Emmerdale spoilers: Sandy Thomas's future is called into question

By Sophie Dainty
Tuesday, Oct 13 2015, 00:01 BST

Sandy Thomas's future is called into question on Emmerdale next week after his son Ashley starts to worry that he can no longer look after himself.

The story kicks off when Ashley and Harriet Finch discover that Sandy has been stuck in the Woolpack bathroom for half an hour because he was too stubborn to ask for help.


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Sandy probes a squirming Ashley about his supposed crush on Harriet.

The incident prompts Harriet to suggest to Ashley that Sandy should move in with them, but Ashley is nervous about trying to convince his father that it would be the best place for him.

As expected, Sandy's pride immediately takes over. After finally being honest with Ashley, he later puts his son in an upsetting predicament when he makes a big request.

With Harriet unaware of what Sandy requested, she is taken aback by Ashley's vehemence when he calls his father a 'selfish old git'.

Later, Harriet is shocked to learn of Sandy's right to die plea and convinces Ashley to have another word with him. What does the future hold for Sandy?

Emmerdale air these scenes on Tuesday, October 20, Wednesday, October 21 and Thursday, October 22 at 7pm on ITV.

Source:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...-question.html

[Perdita]

So Robert wakes up from the coma and I suspect he will not show signs of pain and discomfort .... the one gripe I have about soap stories where characters are seriously hurt but their recovery is nearly instant .... looking forward to the reveal episode though

[Telly Watcher]

What has really bothered me for ages is that, on Sept 25th after Robert's shooting, Lachlan got something really awkward (and apparently heavy) from his left trouser pocket and then threw it into the field, he then got into Lawrence's car and was shifty and awkward himself when he knew he was being driven to the hospital where Robert had been taken after being shot.

25th September 2015, 8pm episode
Lawrence drives up alongside Lachlan as he's walking up the lane out of the village

Lawrence: Lucky. What are you doing out here?
Lachlan: I, I'm looking for Mum. She went off by herself.
Lawrence: Went off? Where?
Lachlan: Well if I knew that I would have found her.
Lawrence: Well get in, we'll call her on the way to the hospital.
Lachlan: What hospital?
Lawrence: Well haven't you heard? Robert's been shot.
Lachlan: Is he dead?
Lawrence: Well. Not yet, but it doesn't look good.
Lachlan: Do they know who shot him?
Lawrence: Funnily enough, I didn't stop to ask. Get in! We've wasted enough time as it is.

Lachlan gets into the car looking very shifty and worried, then looks through the window to the left, apparently thinking about what he's just thrown into the field.

Lachlan didn't say something like "Is he all right" as anyone would reasonably expect but "Is he dead?", as if he'd wanted this to happen and Lachlan had earlier done something to start the process and he was just checking if his actions had gone to completion?

There are other storyline/filming problems too:

1) Just why did Chas move to the right just before the bullet hit Robert? The lane to the Woolpack was to the left and there was nothing to the right of Chas except for the garages in the Woolpack car park. Is this just a soap TV continuity error or is there something deeper than this? (For example, was Chas '"in on the hit" and knew what was going to happen next?)

2) As Chas was so close to Robert when he got shot, is it credible that loving relations like Aaron and Cain could ever shoot at Robert when Chas was standing so nearby? Would even someone like Ross (even when hired) shoot when Chas was standing so close to Robert at the time?

3) Is the most likely shooter someone young, inexperienced in life and impulsive (like young Lachlan) or someone completely emotionally detached (like an outside hitman)?

My thoughts right now are that Cain wasn't too bothered about Robert before and around the time that Robert got shot but when he saw Aaron apparently suicidal in jail (October 19th) then everything changed, turned much darker and Robert became a marked man, so that's why Cain planned the hospital Robert asphyxiation plan later?

We still don't know who was inside the Woolpack at the time of Robert's shooting in the rear pub car park. But pub staff Doug, Diane and Victoria were quickly on the scene after Robert was shot, so too were Emmerdale characters who had been in the cafe, some distance away, so we can safely assume, I reckon, that these weren't directly involved with the shooting.

We know that Andy had checked into a mental health unit earlier that day (in Hotton?) but this doesn't mean that he couldn't have before/since hired someone to shoot Ross.

Ross could also have been hired to shoot Robert by a number of Emmerdale characters, including Aaron, Andy, Cain, Chrissie, Lawrence, etc. My general instinct suggests that this is not a Ross storyline, however, and for now I accept Ross's script explanation that he was leaving Emmerdale for now because he would otherwise kill Pete and end up in jail for a long time by doing this.

If we discount Cain, Aaron and Ross as being extremely unlikely to shoot at Robert when Chas was standing so close to him at the back of the Woolpack on September 25th then the main suspects who would be able to override any kind of sensible personal attitude for not progressing this scene when it happened would appear for now to be young Lachlan or a professional outside hitman?

[Telly Watcher]

I think that Chas came out of the back door of the Woolpack pub to meet Robert after she texted him to meet her there whilst Robert was talking to Lawrence in the upstairs Woolpack private lounge before Robert left Lawrence alone and Lawrence then broke the photo of Chrissie and Robert in anger after Robert had just told him? After leaving Lawrence, the video footage suggests that Robert made his way from the front of the Woolpack to meet Chas in the rear car park. It seems like the shooter was already in position behind Pear Tree Cottage (Jimmy's haulage company office). (This was near where Ross had previously been that afternoon, so maybe Ross had already staked the place out earlier and decided where to wait as a hired hitman and shoot Robert from if he got the chance later?)


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Ross goads Pete during the afternoon of Sept 25th that Debbie fancies Ross more


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Chas and Robert meet behind The Woolpack in the evening / The moment that Robert gets shot


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Chas comforts Robert after he's been shot / Aaron cries when he tries to stop the bleeding from Robert


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Ross tells Debbie on Sept 25th that he's leaving Emmerdale for now, maybe forever / Ross looks back outside Debbie's house at the ambulance sent for Robert on Sept 25th

I think that maybe Chas moved to the right of Robert after telling him to leave Emmerdale just so as to make her way around Robert and re-enter the Woolpack through the back door of the pub?

We have all been so far led to think that Robert was the intended shooting target but maybe it isn't 'Who shot Robert' but 'Who shot at Chas and missed and shot Robert'? Just what a massive Chas-stalker twist and Robert non-story hoot that would be?

(I still think that Lachlan shot Robert though for now!)

[Telly Watcher]

Mon 19 Oct 7pm: Cain fears for Aaron's LIFE (preview clip)
Monday's preview clip: When Aaron alludes to killing himself, Cain is left seriously worried.
Elsewhere in the Village...
Diane blames Chas for the damage...
Bernice struggles with her feelings for Lawrence.
Jimmy tries to win the bet!
http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/preview...mon-19-oct-7pm

Tue 20 Oct 7pm: Bernice's engagement CRUSHED (preview clip)
Tuesday's preview clip: Victoria and Diane are left gobsmacked when Bernice announces her engagement.
Elsewhere in the Village...
Cain looks for another suspect...
Bernice makes a big decision!
Ashley is concerned for Sandy.
http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/preview...tue-20-oct-7pm

Wed 21 Oct 7pm: Cain tries KILLING Robert? (preview clip)
Wednesday's preview clip: Chrissie tells Robert not to wake up, before leaving. Moments later, Cain steps from the shadows and prepares to cut Robert's oxygen.
Elsewhere in the Village...
Sandy puts Ashley in an impossible position...
Paddy behaves strangely.
http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/preview...wed-21-oct-7pm

Thu 22 Oct 7pm: Sandy contemplates DEATH (preview clip)
Thursday's 7pm preview clip:. During a conversation with Harriet, a defiant Sandy demands the right to choose when he dies.
Elsewhere in the Village...
There’s a development with Robert...
Paddy gets a strange phone call.
http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/preview...thu-22-oct-7pm

Thu 22 Oct 8pm: REWIND EPISODE! (preview clip)
Thursday's 8pm preview clip: REWIND! Victoria and Diane watch on as medics battle to save Robert. Chrissie stands in the hospital while Lawrence tells Lachlan about the shooting. Paddy stands by as Aaron tells Chas that the police need to speak to her.
Elsewhere in the Village...
Secrets are revealed...
Lives unravel!
http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/preview...thu-22-oct-8pm

Fri 23 Oct 7pm: Chrissie CONFRONTS Robert (preview clip)
Friday's preview clip: Robert tries not to look too unsettled as Chrissie approaches his bedside.
Elsewhere in the Village...
Pete is horrified to learn the truth...
Chas is in distress!
Ashley is in denial.
http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/preview...fri-23-oct-7pm

See more at:
http://www.itv.com/emmerdale

[Serena Williams]

The way I understand it is that the rewind episode will be a repeat of what we have already seen but with revelation of who the shooter is and a couple of other things. On the following Friday we carry on from the normal episode shown before the rewind but a lot of things will be much clearer to the viewers

that is boring if it is just a repeat of the episode last month when Robert was shot.

[Serena Williams]

just wondering if anyone thinks Chrissie will serve Robert with divorce papers since she is already chasing Rakesh. I just hope and pray this is the end of chrissie and Robert there are not meant to be together.

[Perdita]

that is boring if it is just a repeat of the episode last month when Robert was shot.

Not quite just a repeat, you get to see who shot Robert and a couple of other things will be revealed too, I presume we find out what Paddy was up to and who with