Emmerdale Spoilers 28th September - 2nd October 2015

[Debzyg]

Victoria and Diane are winding me right up at the moment the way they believe Robert over Andy and keep faffing about "poor Robert this" and "poor Robert that".

They seem to be the only people who genuinely think the sun shines out of Roberts backside. It's quite pathetic and painful to watch.

[Debzyg]

Also the female copper questioning everyone at the moment is really getting on my wick!!

Great police work again. "Oh we'll just arrest this person despite having no actual concrete evidence to make an arrest like the real police have to".

As per usual the ever patronising soap police go around arresting everyone in sight until the real killer either runs away or gets killed and never actually gets taken away to jail.

It's the one thing they never get right in soaps. Really shoddy, flimsy police work, arrests with no evidence. If I worked in the police force I'd be pretty peeved at how my profession was portrayed!

[Serena Williams]

It seems like the writers want the audience to think that Aaron shot Robert but why do I feel it is not him? There is a twist according to Danny Miller. Could paddy be the shooter?

[Debzyg]

It seems like the writers want the audience to think that Aaron shot Robert but why do I feel it is not him? There is a twist according to Danny Miller. Could paddy be the shooter?

Yeah they wouldn't give it away that quickly usually would they. Not unless it was a situation the audience was in on like the Cameron murder scenarios, where you're drawn in to keep you watching to see when they'll get found out. And they're making it look too obvious, which naturally makes you think it's not him. Unless it's a double bluff! Lol

Aaron could have stolen the gun thinking that his mom shot Robert and was trying to protect her. Would he have got the safe combination from Robert in the past for any reason? But then when would he have had time to steal it?

Although I still think it could be Lachlan. He could've easily found out the safe combination from his mom, Lawrence or Robert the amount of lurking about and watching people he does, the little weirdo lol

[Telly Watcher]

Emmerdale's Chrissie Sugden is arrested over Robert's shooting

By Daniel Kilkelly
Wednesday, Sep 30 2015, 00:00 BST

Emmerdale's Chrissie Sugden becomes the new prime suspect in Robert's shooting case tonight (September 30).

As Robert remains in a critical condition in hospital, Chrissie (Louise Marwood) informs her lawyer Rakesh Kotecha that she has an alibi as Eric Pollard saw her around the time of the shooting.

Chrissie and Rakesh (Pasha Bocarie) are hopeful that Eric will do the right thing by telling the police the truth, but he actually does the opposite by vengefully giving a false statement which puts her firmly in the frame.

Later, just as Chrissie is celebrating being in the clear, she gets a nasty shock as the no-nonsense detective who is leading the case arrives at the café to arrest her. Is Chrissie in big trouble?


© ITV
Chrissie is arrested for Robert's shooting

Read more at: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...-shooting.html

[Telly Watcher]

Here are photos of the guns used at the woodland lodge (where Robert was going to kill Aaron), the gun Lachlan found and the gun Aaron had at home on 29/09/15.


Woodland lodge gun


Aaron's gun / Lachlan's gun after being in the stream


Lachlan's gun after being in the stream

The woodland lodge gun is totally different from the Lachlan and Aaron guns, so Aaron's gun is definitely not the woodland lodge gun.

There are similarities between Lachlan's gun and Aaron's gun, so Aaron's gun seems to be Lachlan's gun after it has been cleaned/oiled.

Although Aaron has a gun, this doesn't prove that he used it to shoot Robert. Of course, this gun will now be covered with Aaron's fingerprints and DNA.

The big question is where did Aaron get Aaron's gun from?

From Home Farm? Given to him by Chrissie/Lawrence/Lachlan/Robert/someone else? Found in the bushes/around Emmerdale?

[Perdita]

No need to repeatedly post the same under different threads, those that follow Emmerdale will read it the first time

[Telly Watcher]

No need to repeatedly post the same under different threads, those that follow Emmerdale will read it the first time

Hi, you're right, of course. The first post made wasn't meant to be in the other thread and there is no duplicate there now.

[Telly Watcher]

The shiny gun that Aaron had during the Tuesday September 29th episode really bothered me, so I did some checking of previous Emmerdale footage as I thought something might have been set up for us to see but scenes were over so quickly on TV that the details were probably passed over and a frame-by-frame check was needed.

Lachlan finds Ross' gun in a daysack in the stream in the Tuesday, September 22nd episode. In the Wednesday, September 23rd episode (Part 1), he's at the Emmerdale bus shelter where he takes the gun from his rucksack and puts it in his left trouser pocket (Lachlan is left-handed). As he leaves the bus shelter, Rakesh jogs into him from the left and knocks him over. The gun falls from his trouser pocket onto the road and Rakesh then sees it. Rakesh does nothing at the time but later tells Chrissie that Lachlan has a gun.


Lachlan at busstop with gun in hand / Lachlan puts gun into left trouser pocket


After being run into by Rakesh, Lachlan's gun falls out of Lachlan's pocket / Lachlan's gun

After Robert has been shot, Lachlan is shown (during the Friday, September 25th episode) to be walking out of the village (probably towards Home Farm which is some way outside the village and reached through country lanes). He reaches into his left trouser pocket, takes something out with his left hand, then throws the object into a field (or is this Aaron's scrapyard property?). He then seems to sniff his left hand (has strong gunpowder residue?) then seems to hear a car approaching, pulls down his jacket over his trouser pockets, then gets into Lawrence's car and is taken by Lawrence to the hospital where Robert has been taken (Hotton General?). Whilst at the hospital, Lachlan is terribly shifty and makes it clear that he doesn't want to be there.


Lachlan walks from village and reaches into left trouser pocket / Throws object away using left hand into field (scrapyard?)


Lachlan sniffs left hand (for gunpowder residues?) /
Lachlan pulls jacket down over trousers and turns to see Lawrence's car arriving to go with him to the hospital to see Robert

We now know from a spoiler published in What's on TV (3-9 October edition) that Aaron is arrested by Emmerdale PC Plod soap police during the week 12-16th October following the revelation that Aaron seems to have been holding a gun in the background of a video made by Vic/Adam and which was uploaded onto the Internet and noticed by someone watching it. However, some of us know by much experience that Emmerdale PC Plod soap police always get it wrong, so Aaron's arrest is most likely to mean that Aaron wasn't the one who shot Robert!

So what could have happened?

1) Lachlan gets the gun from the Home Farm safe (maybe he knew the safe combination as Chrissie seems to be completely careless about keeping secrets and not being a responsible mother?). Lachlan hanged around the bushes near Robert's room in the pub, then shoots Robert, waits for things to go quiet, then walks towards Home Farm, throws the gun into the field on the way, then gets picked up by Lawrence in his car and taken (unwillingly) to the hospital where Robert has been taken. Aaron maybe finds the gun the next day/later as the "field" is really part of his scrapyard property, or maybe Aaron's gun is another from somewhere else?

2) Lachlan gets the gun from the Home Farm safe (maybe he knew the safe combination as Chrissie seems to be completely careless about keeping secrets and not being a responsible mother?). Lachlan hanged around the bushes near Robert's room in the pub, Lachlan shoots Robert, then Aaron runs into him (like Rakesh did on Wednesday September 22nd) so Lachlan drops the gun (carelessly, yet again, such a typical careless teenager!), then Aaron finds the gun, either then at the time or later when he checks the bushes? Aaron may at first have thought that Chas shot Robert and threw it away into the bushes where Aaron found it, so Aaron took it to protect his mother from gun evidence being available to any further police investigation. As of Tuesday, September 29th, Aaron knows that police forensics have cleared Chas from any chance of shooting Robert, so now Aaron has a gun which he needs to get rid of, either it's one he used to shoot Robert or one he found somewhere or was given through the scrapyard.

3) Aaron's shiny gun is similar to the one that Lachlan found, but is it shiny because it has been cleaned/oiled or is it a different gun altogether? Maybe it is the shooting weapon or maybe it is another that Aaron has found through scrapyard waste (Emmerdale with its 55 or so residents and about 20 houses is such a hotspot for Yorkshire crimes, of course, and attracts bad lads like iron to magnets it seems!). One thing is for sure, Aaron's gun is not the one that Robert had at the woodland lodge.

Aaron was wearing his army green sweatshirt last night on the Tuesday September 29th episode (not really the best dress when a local police shooting crime investigation is underway) when looking at his shiny weapon in his sitting room. A What's on TV spoiler (3-9 October edition) says that Aaron gets arrested during 12-16 October for being seen with this gun on a video shot by Vic/Adam. Just being in possession of a gun is a very serious criminal offence with a possible jail sentence of many years. Maybe Aaron soon disposes of the gun he has and later manages to convince the police that his gun which is seen on video was only a toy, we'll see?

I did post before that Emmerdale PC Plod soap police always get it wrong, so anyone they usually arrest won't be the one they want. It really looks like this is going to happen (yet again!) when Aaron is arrested in a while (12th-16th October). Just why do the Emmerdale storywriters have such a dim view of the police and just why are Emmerdale soap police so quick to arrest people when what they really do on many times is to take people in for questioning and then release them?

It just seems to me right now that Aaron is completely unsuitable as a possible suspect for shooting at Robert behind the pub.

1) Mother Chas was standing right next to Robert when Robert was shot. Just what kind of son would fire a powerful gangster-type weapon anywhere towards his own mother whom he loves dearly and by doing so also set her up as the #1 suspect for wanting to murder Robert?

2) Although Aaron hates Robert for the many dreadful things he's done to many people around Emmerdale, Robert has been second only to Chas recently as the love-of-his-life. Love and hate are very switchable emotions amongst people who really love each other, so why should Aaron be expected to not have times when he hates Robert (even though he will, almost certainly at least, still have the love emotion somewhere deep down)?

3) Although Aaron might hate Robert at times, it doesn't necessarily follow that Aaron hates Robert so much as to want him dead or to even kill Robert himself.

4) There have been a number of spoiler hints (from actor/producer interviews, etc) that Robron will restart in due course. I imagine that this can only happen if Aaron is eventually completely exonerated from actually hurting Robert and that the experience of Robert being so badly injured (nearly at death's door) from this shooting storyline and separated from Robert over this for a time will bring Aaron and Robert close together in a while.

5) As producer Kate Oates is due to leave Emmerdale in 2016, I suspect that a number of current storylines will have ended by the time that she leaves. Maybe the Aaron and Robert bad times are over by then?

The other thing is that a rule-of-thumb about murders (potential or actual) is that they are very usually committed by a family member or a close 'friend'.

So, who is my #1 suspect right now? Lachlan. He really does have all of the characteristics for a murderer here. He's an out-of-control teenager with very little life experience, a White family member, has a known tendency for anything wierd, has history for creeping around the village, has criminal record, a weak mother, etc. I really don't think his appearance on Emmerdale since 10 November 2014 has been very nice for anyone in Emmerdale. I really wonder where his family went wrong with him during his upbringing. I posted before that "Anyone who goes around wearing a purple hat and trying to carry off the latest paratrooper fashion is going to be at least a bit suspect for doing something like this?" (=shooting his step-father with a pistol as a silent assassin in the dark at the back of the Woolpack). I did post here on soapboards on 20th September that it would most likely be him. http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/s...066#post831066

Only time will tell what the real outcome of the Robert shooting storyline will be.

Videos showing Lachlan's actions during the scenes shown in the photos are available at:

Emmerdale - Lachlan Drops The Gun (see from start, lasts 42s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGr1aLCHfbA

Lachlan throws object into the field behind the farm
Emmerdale 25th September 2015 (see from 35m 35s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0PGJLIZo8k

[lizann]

fair play to you telly watcher csi grissom