Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[lizann]

glenda addicted to diazepam, is that new or was it known before?

why is lauren mad at max she is letting him rot in jail

[lizann]

glenda addicted to diazepam, is that new or was it known before?

why is lauren mad at max she is letting him rot in jail

[Ruffed_lemur]

I think at the last count there are eight people (unless I've missed anyone) who know that Max is innocent and that it was Bobby who killed Lucy. I just cannot believe that in real life all eight of them would allow Max to go down for life for a crime they knew he didn't commit.......

Yes, it's just ridiculous!

[Kim]

glenda addicted to diazepam, is that new or was it known before?

why is lauren mad at max she is letting him rot in jail

Glenda was definitely on some form of medication (Ronnie found them in her bag in January 2010, I think it was.) I'm not sure it was stated what they were. I don't recall addiction being stated or covered, but it may have happened under Kirkwood during another of my off periods with the show.

[Kim]

I think at the last count there are eight people (unless I've missed anyone) who know that Max is innocent and that it was Bobby who killed Lucy. I just cannot believe that in real life all eight of them would allow Max to go down for life for a crime they knew he didn't commit.......

You are right, there are eight:

Jane
Ian
Peter
Lauren
Cindy
Liam
Sharon
Phil

I couldn't buy Peter, Lauren and Cindy from the off, especially Peter and later Lauren, now that Max is in the frame. Phil playing the hardman and trying to get Jane to call the police was similarly ridiculous. Why is it one rule for a Mitchell (especially Phil and Ronnie) and another for everyone else? He wouldn't call the police if the shoe was on the other foot and Jane said as much. Marsden was absolutely right when she said there was something going on the other month because Phil had gone to the police station without being arrested.

[parkerman]

You are right, there are eight:

Jane
Ian
Peter
Lauren
Cindy
Liam
Sharon
Phil

I couldn't buy Peter, Lauren and Cindy from the off, especially Peter and later Lauren, now that Max is in the frame. Phil playing the hardman and trying to get Jane to call the police was similarly ridiculous. Why is it one rule for a Mitchell (especially Phil and Ronnie) and another for everyone else? He wouldn't call the police if the shoe was on the other foot and Jane said as much. Marsden was absolutely right when she said there was something going on the other month because Phil had gone to the police station without being arrested.

I know they have got shot of Cindy and Liam to foreign parts, but surely they must know what is going on and they, above anyone else (with the possible exception of Lauren), would not allow Max to be put away. Cindy, we know, actually sent that video to Bobby, so she is certainly not afraid to tell the truth. Where is she? And Liam, too, was all for spilling the beans before he left and what with him being related to Max as well......

I really think this is all stretching the bounds of credibility and, yes, I know it's not real life, but to be reasonable and acceptable, EE does have to have a very firm grounding in reality. But here it seems to be in a complete fantasy world.

[Dazzle]

I really think this is all stretching the bounds of credibility and, yes, I know it's not real life, but to be reasonable and acceptable, EE does have to have a very firm grounding in reality. But here it seems to be in a complete fantasy world.

I agree this storyline's got too far-fetched now. I don't understand the decision-making going on because it's unnecessary to the story that so many characters know about Bobby. Some of it just seems to have been done for short-term shock value without thought for the long-term repercussions.

My thoughts on the different characters' reactions (given that I accept EE is set in its own alternate universe and I don't expect or need total realism):



Jane - I find her covering it up in a moment of madness and now regretting it acceptable. She has a conscience and has stated many times that she'll confess to the murder rather than see an innocent go down for it.

Ian - acceptable. He's always been a selfish weasel given to cruelty.

Peter - although he was disgusted at first, I can believe he came to accept it as long as he believed Lucy's death was an accident and a one-off.

Lauren - I can believe she'd go along with Peter as long as nobody else was harmed by the secret (and certainly not her own father). I can just about accept she'd now trust Jane when she says she'll make sure Max doesn't go down for the murder, but I absolutely won't accept it if she turns her back on him if he's found guilty. The fact that he told Marcus that Abi "battered" Lucy would not be a good enough reason.

Cindy - I can believe she accepted it as long as she believed Lucy's death was an accident and a one-off. However, she came to realise Bobby is deeply disturbed. To be fair, she did send the video, but I don't believe she'd let things lie now just because she's out of the country. "Out of sight, out of mind" isn't good enough.

Liam - totally unbelievable that he'd let his uncle Max go down and cause his beloved aunt Carol untold stress in the process.

Sharon - I believe that she'd put family above all else (and she does consider Ian to be family).

Phil - has no scruples whatsoever. As Kim says, the only unbelievable thing about his part in all this is that he went to the police about Ben and threatened to force Jane to confess.



Anyone strongly disagree with my analysis?

[Rear window]

Phil - has no scruples whatsoever. As Kim says, the only unbelievable thing about his part in all this is that he went to the police about Ben and threatened to force Jane to confess.

He hates Max cos of him getting one over on Ben with the Arches ... So that's very natural.

The rest of them - well yes Jane I think would rather go to prison herself than let anyone else..

Wasn't there a rumour there was going to be another death at the hands of Bobby?

[Rear window]

Phil - has no scruples whatsoever. As Kim says, the only unbelievable thing about his part in all this is that he went to the police about Ben and threatened to force Jane to confess.

He hates Max cos of him getting one over on Ben with the Arches ... So that's very natural.

The rest of them - well yes Jane I think would rather go to prison herself than let anyone else..

Wasn't there a rumour there was going to be another death at the hands of Bobby?

[Dazzle]

He hates Max cos of him getting one over on Ben with the Arches ... So that's very natural.

Thanks, I forgot to mention Phil's hatred of Max after he conned Ben.

Wasn't there a rumour there was going to be another death at the hands of Bobby?

I haven't heard that, but that's not to say it won't happen. Perhaps it could be a Christmas storyline?