Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[storyseeker1]

Well, I'm glad to see they've added a bit more to the story than just Kathy suffering at the hands of an abusive and controlling husband. If their lives really are in danger then I can understand more now why she left Ian and Ben.

Kathy should be proud of herself for walking away, but it's like Phil said, "It's only just beginning". Men like Gavin never let those they consider their possessions go, and EE warned us that he's gonna be one of the darkest characters we've seen in a long while.

So I guess Ronnie has finally made a decision over her marriage. I can't say I'm surprised, as it didn't look like she had any feelings for him for a while.

[Dazzle]

I liked Tracey being part of today's show and having lines

So did I. Jane Slaughter was very good.

Did Gavin know Archie or also does he know the Square, like was he there before?

I've read that Kathy met Gavin through her brother. If that's true, it seems likely he used to live in the area.

The old photo he looked at was of him (looking surprisingly chirpy) and four other men (presumably his old gang back in the day). Two of them could have been Eric and Archie Mitchell. One of the men was black, so could have been Vincent's father (we know the Hubbards and Mitchells go way back).

It seems him and Kathy are on the run from someone else more dangerous

I wouldn't be surprised if whoever they're running from no longer pose a danger to Kathy's family (if they ever did). He might be saying it just to control her.

I thought Paul Nicholas was very convincing as a sinister, Archie Mitchell type villain.

I believe Kathy is now officially a regular character again.

[parkerman]

I've read that Kathy met Gavin through her brother. If that's true, it seems likely he used to live in the area.

The old photo he looked at was of him (looking surprisingly chirpy) and four other men (presumably his old gang back in the day). Two of them could have been Eric and Archie Mitchell. One of the men was black, so could have been Vincent's father (we know the Hubbards and Mitchells go way back).

This whole thing seems to be getting very incestuous with everyone knowing everyone else as well as possibly all being related to each other. Gavin certainly knows the Mitchells of old and especially Archie; the Hubbards have some sort of feud with the Mitchells, but what it is about we are uncertain exactly; Sharon could be Gavin's daughter; Gavin also seems to have known Pete Beale and Den Watts; Gavin may have known the Hubbards as well, if that photo does show Vincent's father. There seem to be a lot of tie-ups between Gavin, the Mitchells, the Hubbards and the Beales..........

[Dazzle]

Incestuous is the right word parkerman. I suppose at least we can't complain that no thought's been given to the character of Gavin and his connections to Albert Square.

Here's a link to the picture Gavin looked at:

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbceasten...050880/photo/1

• I've seen the first man on the left suggested as being Den Watts. I can see the resemblance although I'm not 100% sure. See this picture as a comparison: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6d7fda3e50.jpg
  
• the next man is possibly Vincent's father
  
• I've seen some people suggest the man in the middle is possibly Eric Mitchell because there's a resemblance to Phil
  
• the next man along is definitely Ted Hills, Kathy's brother (it appears to have been photoshopped from this photo of Brian Croucher, the actor who played Ted Hills: http://www.cloveclub.com/wp-content/...-Croucher1.jpg
  
• The man on the far right is obviously a young Gavin.

What does everyone else think of the photo?

[maidmarian]

Incestuous is the right word parkerman. I suppose at least we can't complain that no thought's been given to the character of Gavin and his connections to Albert Square.

Here's a link to the picture Gavin looked at:

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbceastenders/status/642416507453050880/photo/1

• I've seen the first man on the left suggested as being Den Watts. I can see the resemblance although I'm not 100% sure. See this picture as a comparison: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7b/30/8a/7b308a7faa64d488b35fe16d7fda3e50.jpg
  
• the next man is possibly Vincent's father
  
• I've seen some people suggest the man in the middle is possibly Eric Mitchell because there's a resemblance to Phil
  
• the next man along is definitely Ted Hills, Kathy's brother (it appears to have been photoshopped from this photo of Brian Croucher, the actor who played Ted Hills: http://www.cloveclub.com/wp-content/uploads/Brian-Croucher1.jpg
  
• The man on the far right is obviously a young Gavin.

What does everyone else think of the photo?

You done much better than I could!!Dazzle

Gavin&Ted -yes

Den- very probably -nose similar -hair-line
different .That happens over time -but seems
lower in later pic - rather than higher.?

Vincent -Ive not really thought about his
fathers ethnicity !? I.think Id made an assumption
he was white. I dont know why because I.
dont usually assume- because of my nephew
- which I mentioned on here once!

Eric Mitchell - that was a surprise to
me - though I can see the resemblence.
I think Ive always had a mental.pic
of him being the same physical type
as Grant rather than Phil -but don't
know why!
So very well.deduced!!

[maidmarian]

dupl

[Dazzle]

You done much better than I could!!Dazzle

Aww thanks MM, but I can't take the credit because most of the above is taken from comments I've read on other sites. The only character I recognised straight away was Gavin; I wouldn't know Ted Hills from Adam...

Vincent -Ive not really thought about his
fathers ethnicity !? I.think Id made an assumption
he was white. I dont know why because I.
dont usually assume- because of my nephew
- which I mentioned on here once!

Funnily enough, I was discussing the possibility that Gavin could be Vincent's father* on another thread a few weeks ago. We haven't been told his ethnicity, so it being him in the photo is just speculation. If not, I think it's likely to be someone close to Vincent - possibly Claudette's brother?

* Maybe it would be easier to rule out characters who definitely couldn't be Gavin's children...

[lizann]

is sharon father in that picture

[Dazzle]

is sharon father in that picture

That's the million dollar question...

[parkerman]

is sharon father in that picture

Only if Gavin is in it!