Eastenders Spoilers 10th Aug-14th Aug

[parkerman]

I realise that EE doesn't care too much for plausibility, but how is Liam going to show he murdered Lucy? Even if he confesses he will still have to provide evidence for how he did it. It seems bad enough to me that the police think they have a case against Max but Liam???

[Kim]

The same way Stacey did I guess. Although she was actually guilty, there were no forensics, only a motive. Cindy could tell Liam what Jane told them about how Bobby did it and Liam could adapt it and say he went round and Lucy started saying he wasn't family or something. It was only a thought so of course I could be completely wrong.

[Dazzle]

I realise that EE doesn't care too much for plausibility, but how is Liam going to show he murdered Lucy? Even if he confesses he will still have to provide evidence for how he did it. It seems bad enough to me that the police think they have a case against Max but Liam???

If Liam did confess to Lucy's murder, I'd be more worried about what motive he'd provide.

None of the soaps are big on realism in legal matters - it's all about entertainment and sensationalism. As long as the explanation is possible (even if somewhat unlikely) I'll probably go along it. At least in Max's case there is evidence, albeit circumstantial, and we know that people are sometimes wrongly convicted on nothing more in real life. Clever barristers can twist the facts to suit themselves.

As for Liam, maybe Cindy could tell him some details about Lucy's murder that the general public don't know? That's often how the police weed out false confessions in real life. Maybe he could tell them that he used the music box? There might still be forensic evidence on that.

Edited to add: cross-posted with Kim's post.

[Kim]

As for Liam, maybe Cindy could tell him some details about Lucy's murder that the general public don't know? That's often how the police weed out false confessions in real life. Maybe he could tell them that he used the music box? There might still be forensic evidence on that.

Yes, I'd have thought so. Everyone in the house had their prints taken for elimination purposes if I recall, plus Jane I'd imagine, as the former step-mother (because immediate family aren't the first place to look in soapland.) If Liam wanted to confess and touched the jewellery box, his prints would look out of place: a half first-cousin once removed who wasn't particularly close to his Uncle and who probably wouldn't have come into contact with the box the one time he was in the house with Cindy prior to Lucy's death. (Mind you, being male, I'm not sure what Bobby would want with it, whereas Ian's would be on it because he found the cocaine in there.)

Was it Emma that planted the box for Beth at Christmas? Did we ever get any confirmation of who did it?

[Dazzle]

Yes, I'd have thought so. Everyone in the house had their prints taken for elimination purposes if I recall, plus Jane I'd imagine, as the former step-mother (because immediate family aren't the first place to look in soapland.) If Liam wanted to confess and touched the jewellery box, his prints would look out of place: a half first-cousin once removed who wasn't particularly close to his Uncle and who probably wouldn't have come into contact with the box the one time he was in the house with Cindy prior to Lucy's death. (Mind you, being male, I'm not sure what Bobby would want with it, whereas Ian's would be on it because he found the cocaine in there.)

Was it Emma that planted the box for Beth at Christmas? Did we ever get any confirmation of who did it?

I think they could get away Liam's lack of fingerprints because the music box has been handled by so many people since the murder (it even ended up in a charity shop at one point). It's likely that any fingerprints from April 2014 would be smudged by now. It was probably even been wiped clean before being given to the charity shop (although that wouldn't remove all traces of blood).

Jane said that Bobby put the music box under the tree as a surprise for Beth. Another example of how twisted he is perhaps?

[tammyy2j]

I cant see Bianca letting her son Liam go to prison for Lucy's murder she would be back fighting for him

[Dazzle]

I cant see Bianca letting her son Liam go to prison for Lucy's murder she would be back fighting for him

She probably won't even hear about it all the way from Milton Keynes!

[maidmarian]

She probably won't even hear about it all the way from Milton Keynes!

We might hear her tho.!
Just been looking for ear-plugs!

[maidmarian]

Dupl

[Dazzle]

We might hear her tho.!
Just been looking for ear-plugs!

I'll have to dig mine out in readiness too!