Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[lizann]

my understanding is roxy only helps sharon in albert sometimes not employed full or part time

[Dazzle]

my understanding is roxy only helps sharon in albert sometimes not employed full or part time

Thanks, I think you must be right.

[lizann]

if dean's kid has the cf gene/illness the same as jimbob does this mean kevin is not jimbob's daddy is buster then or is kevin really dean's daddy, perhaps someone more medically knowledgeable about cf can clear this up for me please

[parkerman]

As far as I understand it, cf is a hereditary disease. Both parents have to pass on the gene, you can't just develop cf from one parent though you can still be a carrier and pass it on to the next generation. It means Shirley must have the defective gene as a carrier. It wouldn't rule out Buster also being a carrier. Incidentally it means Shabnam must have the defective gene as well, which she must have inherited from either Mas or Zainab.

[lizann]

when shirley gave mick dean's blood group she took from tests done on dean when jimbob died and he was clear of cf

[parkerman]

I don't remember that, but if Dean doesn't have the defective gene, he can't be Jade's father.

[Kim]

As far as I understand it, cf is a hereditary disease. Both parents have to pass on the gene, you can't just develop cf from one parent though you can still be a carrier and pass it on to the next generation. It means Shirley must have the defective gene as a carrier. It wouldn't rule out Buster also being a carrier. Incidentally it means Shabnam must have the defective gene as well, which she must have inherited from either Mas or Zainab.

This is correct.

There are two copies of the gene, one inherited from each parent. You either inherit two normal genes and are totally clear, one faulty gene and one normal (in which case you are a carrier but not affected) or two faulty genes (in which case you actually have CF.)

Many carriers (Shabnam, probably) won't know that they are carriers. Dean should know that he is because of the tests and it'll be poor continuity if this isn't picked up (the prior dialogue could have been interpreted as meaning that Dean was totally clear, in which case, this has come out of nowhere.) Unless of course Shirley found out that Dean was a carrier and didn't tell him. Incidentally, these tests are a retcon as Shirley had done a bunk before Jimbo died, leaving Kevin with a terminally ill child and two children that weren't his.

Given this producer's liking of retconning Shirley's backstory to make her more likeable, I'm waiting for the claim that Shirley knew that Buster wasn't a carrier, therefore her cheating on Kevin and having Dean with Buster is somehow acceptable because she knew that the child would be a carrier at most!

In Shirley and Kevin and Shabnam and Dean's cases, they had a 25% chance of having an unaffected child, a 50% chance of having a carrier and a 25% chance of having a child with CF.

[lizann]

dtc and his writers should have done extensive research on cf for the storyline

[maidmarian]

This is correct.

There are two copies of the gene, one inherited from each parent. You either inherit two normal genes and are totally clear, one faulty gene and one normal (in which case you are a carrier but not affected) or two faulty genes (in which case you actually have CF.)

Many carriers (Shabnam, probably) won't know that they are carriers. Dean should know that he is because of the tests and it'll be poor continuity if this isn't picked up (the prior dialogue could have been interpreted as meaning that Dean was totally clear, in which case, this has come out of nowhere.) Unless of course Shirley found out that Dean was a carrier and didn't tell him. Incidentally, these tests are a retcon as Shirley had done a bunk before Jimbo died, leaving Kevin with a terminally ill child and two children that weren't his.

Given this producer's liking of retconning Shirley's backstory to make her more likeable, I'm waiting for the claim that Shirley knew that Buster wasn't a carrier, therefore her cheating on Kevin and having Dean with Buster is somehow acceptable because she knew that the child would be a carrier at most!

In Shirley and Kevin and Shabnam and Dean's cases, they had a 25% chance of having an unaffected child, a 50% chance of having a carrier and a 25% chance of having a child with CF.

Thankyou very much for this interesting
and informative post.
Also for info about the retconning. I wasn't
able to watch EE very much at the time of
Jimbobs illness so that Shirleys behaviour
tho not surprising - was news to me!

There are theories that your blood group
can make you more prone to certain
illnesses. Do.you know if this applies to
Cystic Fibrosis?

I still.wonder why they made Dean blood type
AB which is very rare if it was to have no
significance . They could have established
that Mick was Olivers father without Dean
having a rare group.

I did wonder if it might play a part in Deans
own paternity. Perhaps another retcon on the
way !!

[maidmarian]

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