Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[parkerman]

Absolutely spot on, Dazzle.

Surely DTC must be getting feed-back on this. He is going to lose a lot of viewers over this if it doesn't end in a satisfactory way for Linda very soon.

[Dazzle]

Surely DTC must be getting feed-back on this. He is going to lose a lot of viewers over this if it doesn't end in a satisfactory way for Linda very soon.

There've been lots of complaints for weeks now so DTC must be aware of the huge frustration a lot of EE fans are feeling about the storyline.

His most recent comments about the plot that I can find are in this video dated 24th April 2015. He says "there will be an ending" to the story but that real life isn't "tied up quickly and easily with a bow". There have been angry reactions on Twitter but "it's right people are getting angry because they should be" and "if there wasn't a discussion going on then we wouldn't be doing the right thing".

People are angry that Dean's escaped legal justice and of course it's right they should be, but I don't think DTC realises that the majority of the complaints are about the writing of the story not the contents. I never had a huge problem with Dean not being convicted (as long as he gets some form of comeuppance) because it is a realistic scenario and the lack of justice for most real-life rape victimes should be highlighted in my opinion. However, it sounds like they were going for gritty realism whereas what's actually come across onscreen is repetitive and almost unwatchable sensationalism (that has less and less to do with the victim's feelings).

I just hope the fact that the storyline has a definite end means that the truth will come out one way or another and we'll be rid of Dean (sooner rather than later hopefully). I can't stomach much more of his (and Shirley's) gloating!

On the positive side, DTC says in the video that there's plenty more to come on the Bobby Beale storyline. I'm looking forward to that and just hope I'm still watching EE then.

[lizann]

well said dazzle

[parkerman]

Thank you for that Dazzle. I agree that he doesn't seem to understand what it is people are angry about. As I said above it is the repetitive nature of the story with the same scenes between Mick and Shirley being played over and over again. Also the position of Tina in all this. Does she or does she not believe Linda? Either way, she must know and understand why it is impossible for Mick and Shirley to be reconciled while Shirley continues to defend and protect Dean. It just makes no sense at all and is nothing to do with people maybe being angry over Dean not getting his comeuppance.

[maidmarian]

Thank you for that Dazzle. I agree that he doesn't seem to understand what it is people are angry about. As I said above it is the repetitive nature of the story with the same scenes between Mick and Shirley being played over and over again. Also the position of Tina in all this. Does she or does she not believe Linda? Either way, she must know and understand why it is impossible for Mick and Shirley to be reconciled while Shirley continues to defend and protect Dean. It just makes no sense at all and is nothing to do with people maybe being angry over Dean not getting his comeuppance.

I agree with all uve said parkerman . EE had this
repititive scenes problem years ago and it was
so bad you actually thought you were watching
a repeat episode until a new bit popped up.
I cant remember the storyline -time has blotted
it out- might have involved Phil.?

The way the rape story is now being played
completely undrvalues its importance.
I may have picked this up wrongly but I get
the impression the producer likes the actor
who plays Dean and has sympathy for character.
Is he swayed by thinking Dean has a lot of fans.?

I think if I had modelled some of the Carters
on my own family - as producer says he has-
Id have kept quiet about it.
!
If story goes on much longer -I would expect
someone in BBC hierarchy to step in - as they
did in Baby Swap Story!

[maidmarian]

Dupl

[parkerman]

I think if I had modelled some of the Carters
on my own family - as producer says he has-
Id have kept quiet about it.

[Dazzle]

I may have picked this up wrongly but I get
the impression the producer likes the actor
who plays Dean and has sympathy for character.
Is he swayed by thinking Dean has a lot of fans.?

The general consensus on social media seems to be that they planned for Dean to rape Linda before they realised how popular he was, and are since regretting it. I liked Dean a lot myself and was fuming when I read that he was going to become a rapist, but since he's now a fully-fledged sex offender I'm not interested in seeing any further development of his character.

There seem to be a minority of EE fans who like and/or fancy Matt di Angelo and make all sorts of excuses for the rape - even going so far as to hope Dean can be redeemed! Luckily most fans are sick to the back teeth of him and want him gone ASAP.

I just hope DTC and Co are listening to us.

[lizann]

there no possible way to redeem dean

[Dazzle]

Thank you for that Dazzle. I agree that he doesn't seem to understand what it is people are angry about. As I said above it is the repetitive nature of the story with the same scenes between Mick and Shirley being played over and over again. Also the position of Tina in all this. Does she or does she not believe Linda? Either way, she must know and understand why it is impossible for Mick and Shirley to be reconciled while Shirley continues to defend and protect Dean. It just makes no sense at all and is nothing to do with people maybe being angry over Dean not getting his comeuppance.

Yeah, Tina's stance is a bizarre and inconsistent mess!

there no possible way to redeem dean

None whatsoever.